| munikar | anybody here? | 05:18 |
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| munikar | ? | 05:18 |
| well_laid_lawn | looks like there's 65 in the channel | 05:19 |
| munikar | people say that xubuntu runs well in 256 mb ram, but my computer with 256 mb ram and 2.4 GHz processor always hangs in the middle of installation process..........!!! :(((( | 05:20 |
| well_laid_lawn | did you check the cd or iso? | 05:21 |
| munikar | yes, i just downloaded 689.5 mb ISO file and burned it in a cd. The CD worked fine in my laptop with 3 Gb RAM | 05:23 |
| well_laid_lawn | is there a swap file on the hard disk? | 05:24 |
| well_laid_lawn | s/file/partition/ | 05:24 |
| munikar | yes i have a page file in the Windows XP | 05:24 |
| munikar | not installed linux distro yet in that computer | 05:25 |
| well_laid_lawn | not the same thing but ok | 05:25 |
| well_laid_lawn | how do you know the comp hangs during installation | 05:25 |
| well_laid_lawn | ? | 05:25 |
| munikar | during installation process, after choosing lanuage, when i click the "Forward" button. Then the comptuter hangs.....may be becoz of lack of memory | 05:32 |
| munikar | xubuntu isn't lightweight anymore .... :( | 05:32 |
| Unit193 | Using the alternate installer could help | 05:32 |
| well_laid_lawn | you do need a fair bit of memory to run the live cd | 05:35 |
| munikar | what about alternate cd? | 05:35 |
| well_laid_lawn | !alternate | 05:36 |
| ubottu | The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal | 05:36 |
| ssargennto | #testing | 05:55 |
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| joris | Shouldn't thunar be able to mount remote shares over ssh? | 12:57 |
| ablomen | joris, gigolo can | 13:09 |
| ablomen | (applications menu => system => gigolo) | 13:09 |
| joris | ablomen: thanks! | 13:13 |
| joris | ablomen: I can't get gigolo to connect. I can also not select ssh for service type only custum location. Any ideas? | 13:28 |
| joris | ablomen: got it! I needed to install gvs-backends and now it works! | 13:31 |
| ablomen | joris, ok cool :) | 13:32 |
| joris | btw I would have never find out that a program with the name gigolo would mount remote shares... | 13:36 |
| joris | and I hope that my girlfriend does not often check firefox history, because she will be asking why I was googling for a gigolo... | 13:37 |
| ablomen | joris, haha well the name is gigolo because "it mounts everything you tell it to mount" | 13:39 |
| _ToZ | quit | 14:43 |
| MikeChelen | wish gigolo automatically installed the gvfs-backends package | 14:45 |
| MikeChelen | since its required for most share types | 14:45 |
| Cosmoe | hi chaps | 14:56 |
| Cosmoe | has anyone come across an issue with XUbuntu 11.04 where mouse settings (IE acceleration and threshold) don't persist across logins? | 14:56 |
| ElderDryas | Cosmoe: No, they have always worked for me. | 15:02 |
| Cosmoe | i see | 15:03 |
| Cosmoe | do you know where the settings are stored? | 15:03 |
| ElderDryas | What happens if you edit file:///home/drc/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/pointers.xml | 15:03 |
| likemindead | Why no mention of 11.10 at xubuntu.com (or ubuntu.com)? | 15:03 |
| ElderDryas | change drc to your login | 15:03 |
| ElderDryas | backup the file before editing :) | 15:03 |
| ElderDryas | likemindead: becasue it's not released yet (tomorrow) | 15:04 |
| likemindead | Right. | 15:04 |
| Cosmoe | now, it appears to have changed that file ElderDryas | 15:04 |
| Cosmoe | to the settings i've input | 15:04 |
| Cosmoe | but it must be resetting or something on my fresh login | 15:04 |
| likemindead | There's most always a "Coming Soon" or countdown or something, though. | 15:04 |
| Cosmoe | i suppose i could make it RO | 15:04 |
| charlie-tca | likemindead: We didn't get one written | 15:05 |
| charlie-tca | However, it is in the topic here | 15:05 |
| likemindead | Ah. No worries. | 15:05 |
| likemindead | True dat. | 15:05 |
| ElderDryas | Cosmoe: Change the settins to what you want, re-start X (or reboot) open the file and see what it says. If it's changed from what you want, "Houston, we have a problem" :) | 15:06 |
| Cosmoe | yeah, not good eh | 15:06 |
| Cosmoe | brb | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | don't forget to save session | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | if session is not saved, settings are not saved either | 15:06 |
| ubuntu_ | Hi everybody. I need a help with my xubuntu. I'm from Poland and my gramma isn't very good, but I tried all what I've found. | 15:07 |
| Cosmoe | ... i see | 15:07 |
| Cosmoe | that seems a little counter-intuitive | 15:07 |
| Cosmoe | brb | 15:07 |
| charlie-tca | !details | ubuntu_ | 15:07 |
| ubottu | ubuntu_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 15:07 |
| ElderDryas | charlie-tca: I have never overtly saved a session and my mouse settings carry over. Does Xubuntu automagically save the session (probably as a default) ? | 15:08 |
| ElderDryas | charlie-tca: Maybe that is why if I leave, say, xchat open when I shut down it comes up the next time I start. | 15:09 |
| ElderDryas | Even though I do not have Automatically save session checked.... | 15:10 |
| ubuntu_ | I have a problem with grub rescue. I'm running Xubuntu 11.04 on live CD. I've installed it today. I had Windows XP before and Xubuntu is on the second partition I had (not the windows xp partition, even if I choose option to install Xubuntu near windows) | 15:11 |
| Cosmoe | it looks like the file stays the same ... | 15:11 |
| Cosmoe | but the settings aren't applied | 15:11 |
| ubuntu_ | and grub doesn't loading, so I can't choose OS | 15:12 |
| ElderDryas | Cosmoe: This may sound silly, but are you sure you are modifying the correct mouse? | 15:14 |
| Cosmoe | yep | 15:14 |
| Cosmoe | 100% sure | 15:14 |
| Cosmoe | and you were right to ask, as I do have two 'mice' | 15:14 |
| Cosmoe | the touchpad and an external mpuse | 15:14 |
| Cosmoe | mouse * | 15:14 |
| ElderDryas | Cosmoe: OK, I asked becasue I made the mistake of modifying the PS@ mouse and wondered why it wasn't working with my wireless optical mouse :) | 15:14 |
| Cosmoe | heh | 15:15 |
| ElderDryas | er...PS2 | 15:15 |
| ubuntu_ | I spent few hours in front of my laptop. I'm hungry, tired and angry. | 15:15 |
| Cosmoe | well according to pointers.xml, my touchpad has acceleration of 5 | 15:15 |
| Cosmoe | but it has none whatsoever | 15:15 |
| Cosmoe | i wonder if it's getting confused because I have two devices | 15:15 |
| ElderDryas | Touchpad and Mouse? | 15:15 |
| Cosmoe | that's right | 15:16 |
| Cosmoe | it's a bcm5974 touchpad (Macbook Pro) | 15:16 |
| ElderDryas | Works For Me (tm) :) | 15:16 |
| Cosmoe | which i'm using the mtrack driver for | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | ElderDryas: yes, your session is saving automatically | 15:17 |
| Cosmoe | i've tried saving the session specifically and it still seems to be an issue | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | There are two places for save session on exit, on is at the logout screen, the other is in "Sessions and Startup" | 15:18 |
| ElderDryas | ChanServ: And even if I choose neither, the session is save...hmmmm | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | hmmm | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | if both are unchecked, the session should not save, unless you are opening a previously saved session. | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | If you close everything, save session, logout, login, nothing should should start | 15:21 |
| * ElderDryas for one welcomes our new digital overlords. | 15:21 | |
| likemindead | What a load of bull. >> http://yourbrowsermatters.org/ | 15:24 |
| williammw | hello everyone | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | well, it is by microsoft, afterall | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | !hi | williammw | 15:24 |
| ubottu | williammw: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 15:24 |
| M-n-M | hello williammw | 15:25 |
| williammw | hello M-n-M | 15:27 |
| Cosmoe | looks like even if i set the correct settings in my xorg.conf that xubuntu will reset them to some strange default when i log back in | 15:32 |
| Cosmoe | it seems the best way around this is to simply have a script that i can run that calls "xset m 5 10" | 15:33 |
| charlie-tca | Nothing should be changing xorg.conf | 15:34 |
| ElderDryas | Cosmoe: Mine doesn't change | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | The only files Xubuntu should be changing are in ~/.config and ~/.cache | 15:34 |
| Cosmoe | it isn't changing xorg.conf charlie-tca | 15:34 |
| Cosmoe | it isn't changing profiles.xml in .config either | 15:34 |
| Cosmoe | it's just that somehow xubuntu sees fit to tell X some other arbitrary acceleration value that isn't from either of those files | 15:35 |
| Cosmoe | this appears to only happen at login though | 15:36 |
| Cosmoe | so i can then run my script to xset the mouse settings BACK to what i actually want them as again | 15:37 |
| williammw | i had that problem with my NAS. | 15:40 |
| _Pete_ | hey everyone | 15:41 |
| _Pete_ | I want to thank you | 15:41 |
| williammw | hello pete | 15:41 |
| _Pete_ | this xfce/xubuntu is excellent | 15:41 |
| williammw | i like the Xfce better also | 15:42 |
| williammw | this is my second distro install | 15:43 |
| _Pete_ | after this kde3->4 and now gnome->whatever force update | 15:43 |
| _Pete_ | this is just the only option | 15:43 |
| williammw | i found gnome to be a lil touchy, and in the future i hope to build some more flavors. | 15:46 |
| _Pete_ | yes but with newest ubuntu | 15:47 |
| _Pete_ | you are forced to gnome3 | 15:47 |
| _Pete_ | that is totally sucks | 15:47 |
| _Pete_ | like was force kde3 to kde4 | 15:47 |
| williammw | lol true | 15:48 |
| Sysi | yeah, forcing people out of 90s | 15:50 |
| Sysi | I never liked kde3 or gnome2 but xfce is still awesome | 15:50 |
| _Pete_ | I liked and still like kde3 best | 15:51 |
| _Pete_ | unfortunatelly it is not easy to use with modern ubuntu | 15:51 |
| ElderDryas | Sign number 314159 that the world is about to end...tonight my sister is abandoning Windows and installing Xubuntu. What's next? | 16:25 |
| TheSheep | Abandoning Xubuntu and buying a mac | 16:26 |
| charlie-tca | Wonders never cease... | 16:26 |
| ElderDryas | She uses Macs at work, doesn't really like them | 16:26 |
| ElderDryas | Besides, she's cheap | 16:26 |
| ElderDryas | So, I've got my work cut out for me tonight...She's using the Desktop to talk to me while she installs on her laptop. Time to stock up on caffine. | 16:28 |
| ElderDryas | I noticed that the daily's haven't changed since Monday.... | 16:28 |
| ElderDryas | I take that to mean 1) the ISO is really in it's final form; or 2) Everything is broke and they are starting over. | 16:29 |
| charlie-tca | they better have | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | we just got new desktop images today, and the alternate image should be dated yesterday (2011-10-11) | 16:31 |
| ElderDryas | OK, I was looking at the daily-live | 16:32 |
| charlie-tca | we just got new ones for daily-live dated 2011-10-12 | 16:33 |
| ElderDryas | yeah, you rat...let me open my big mouth and then you shove my foot in it :( | 16:34 |
| ElderDryas | hit refresh and BOOM :) | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | That's because I run 10 tests for each new image they put out this week | 16:36 |
| Sysi | you don't like mac, you just get job done with it | 16:47 |
| ElderDryas | Sysi: It's my sister, she hasn't made sense since she was 5 | 16:53 |
| Sysi | not bad | 16:54 |
| Sysi | oneiric installation is pretty fast on virtualbox on ssd | 16:55 |
| penalvch | Sysi, how do you like SSD v. HDD? Any special configurations you had to perform before running Xubuntu virtual or native w/ SSD? | 16:59 |
| Sysi | you basically don't need to, but there are some tweak you can do if you want | 16:59 |
| Sysi | noatime,discard to fstab and elevator=noop to kernel options | 17:00 |
| Sysi | oneiric is like iphone 4S, looks ~exactly the same but everyone tells you it's new and fancier :P | 17:02 |
| ElderDryas | Sysi: Nah, they moved some stuff around in the menu(s) | 17:03 |
| gregounours | hi all, could I get help troubleshooting my mic. I am running xu 11.04 on a dell c400 | 17:17 |
| gregounours | Oh yeah, All those offer of help. I am filling the love :-) | 17:23 |
| gregounours | feeling :-) | 17:23 |
| TheSheep | !audio | 17:23 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 17:23 |
| TheSheep | see that second link | 17:23 |
| TheSheep | not everything from it applies to xubuntu, but there are some things you can try | 17:24 |
| gregounours | Thanks. Part of the problem I believe is that for some reason gnome stuff is running in the back gtoung including sound related stuff like volume control | 17:26 |
| gregounours | amixer sget mic gives me the following: | 17:26 |
| gregounours | Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined cvolume cvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Capture 0 - 15 Mono: Playback 21 [68%] [-3.00dB] [off] Front Left: Capture 1 [7%] [1.50dB] [off] Front Right: Capture 1 [7%] [1.50dB] [off] | 17:27 |
| TheSheep | open the mixer and unmute the mic | 17:27 |
| gregounours | Ok added mic to mixer, un muted, tried recording using arecord but did not work. I do hear my self though | 17:34 |
| gregounours | menaing that the mic picks up sound and sent them striaght to the speakers | 17:34 |
| TheSheep | gregounours: you can try installing padevchooser | 17:38 |
| TheSheep | gregounours: and selecting the right source for your application | 17:38 |
| gregounours | it's installing pulseaudio | 17:42 |
| gregounours | I was trying to stay away from it | 17:42 |
| gregounours | but we'll see | 17:42 |
| gregounours | :-) | 17:43 |
| TheSheep | um, pulseaudio should be installed by default in xubuntu | 17:43 |
| gregounours | I removed it in an attempt to amke things work | 17:44 |
| gregounours | :-) | 17:44 |
| gregounours | should i run padevchooser in from terminal? | 17:45 |
| TheSheep | or from menu | 17:46 |
| TheSheep | doesn't matter | 17:46 |
| TheSheep | you should see it in the system tray | 17:46 |
| gregounours | it is but it detect no device | 17:48 |
| TheSheep | is pulseaudio running? | 17:49 |
| gregounours | it is | 17:51 |
| gregounours | well may be not | 17:52 |
| gregounours | let me check task monitor | 17:52 |
| TheSheep | it normally starts when you log in | 17:52 |
| TheSheep | but if you just installed it, you might need to run it manually | 17:52 |
| gregounours | ok i just did run pulseaudio | 17:53 |
| ubuntu_ | hello | 17:53 |
| ball | Does Xubuntu know or care whether an amd64 system has ECC RAM? | 17:54 |
| TheSheep | ball: it will show in lshw | 17:54 |
| gregounours | and it shows in task manager "pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog" | 17:54 |
| TheSheep | gregounours: ok, still no device? | 17:54 |
| ball | TheSheep: thanks. For corrected memory errors, are those reported to the OS? | 17:55 |
| TheSheep | ball: I have no idea, but I think they are handled internally | 17:55 |
| TheSheep | ball: by the memory chip itself | 17:56 |
| ball | I imagine they're handled by the chipset... I was interested more in reporting. | 17:56 |
| gregounours | I quit and restarted padevchooser no change | 17:57 |
| gregounours | as I said earlier I have a bunch of gnome audio stuff running that dome from I don't know where as I installed Xubuntu from the cd | 17:57 |
| TheSheep | gregounours: but aumix/alsamixer shows it just fine? | 17:58 |
| gregounours | yeah | 17:58 |
| TheSheep | that's weird | 17:58 |
| gregounours | alsmixer seems to work alright | 17:58 |
| TheSheep | how about pavucontrol? | 17:58 |
| TheSheep | also, does the program you use for recording have an option to select with device to use? | 17:59 |
| gregounours | well I was trying to use skype | 18:05 |
| gregounours | but even using arecord in terminal nothing gets recorded | 18:05 |
| TheSheep | skype has config for which device to use, *if* you don't have pulseaudio installed | 18:09 |
| TheSheep | otherwise it uses pulseaudio automatically, afair | 18:09 |
| gregounours | How do I stop Gnone related processes to start | 19:31 |
| gregounours | they got installed when I added some program | 19:32 |
| gregounours | and i can't get rid oif them | 19:32 |
| gregounours | I tried the "application autostart" route to no avail | 19:33 |
| ElderDryas | There is a Settings Manager>Sessions and Startup>Advanced>Launch GNOME services...but I'm not sure that's what you are talking about. | 19:33 |
| gregounours | That's unchecked | 19:33 |
| gregounours | If you tell me where I can copy my process list I can pist it | 19:34 |
| gregounours | Can't seem to be able to do it from task Manager | 19:34 |
| gregounours | :-( | 19:40 |
| xrdodrx | gregounours, ps aux > file in a terminal will output the list of running processes to a file called `file' in the current directory, usually your home folder | 19:48 |
| xrdodrx | you can then paste this list into paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin.com | 19:48 |
| ElderDryas | Is there going to be a #ubuntureleaseparty (or whatever it's called) this release? | 19:56 |
| gregounours | http://paste.ubuntu.com/706957/ | 19:56 |
| gregounours | As you can see there is all kind of gvfs stuff in there | 19:57 |
| gregounours | as well as 3 gnome entries | 19:58 |
| gregounours | ElderDryas > you can alwways organize one :-) | 19:59 |
| ElderDryas | nah, then everyone will drink MY beer..."Oh I forgot to bring some, maybe next time" :) | 20:00 |
| charlie-tca | !isitout | 20:01 |
| ubottu | Nope! Ubuntu 11.10 is scheduled for release sometime on October 13th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! | 20:01 |
| charlie-tca | that one? | 20:01 |
| ElderDryas | that one! | 20:02 |
| charlie-tca | I won't go near it | 20:02 |
| ElderDryas | I might, to drink THEIR beer. | 20:02 |
| ElderDryas | Anyone taking bets on who gets booted first for "IS It Out Yet?" too many times? | 20:03 |
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| gregounours | So anybody as a sec to look at my dump? | 20:35 |
| gregounours | I am reposting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706957/ | 20:36 |
| gNewPower | hi! is is possible to remove the text under the icons shown on the desktop? thanks | 22:01 |
| charlie-tca | why? | 22:04 |
| gNewPower | just because I don't need the text under them | 22:05 |
| charlie-tca | gNewPower: Do you have a way to identify what the icon is for when there are three or four the same? | 22:05 |
| gNewPower | I only have 2 icons | 22:05 |
| charlie-tca | I don't have any way to remove the text, but you could make it as small a font as possible, probably 6pt | 22:06 |
| gNewPower | ok | 22:06 |
| gNewPower | thanks | 22:06 |
| gNewPower | brb | 22:06 |
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| gNewPower | back | 22:41 |
| gNewPower | charlie-tca, how about making the background of the text under the icons transparent? I don't really mind the text itself, as the white bubble in which it sits and which contrasts very heavily with my darker desktop wallpaper. thanks! | 22:42 |
| charlie-tca | I guess you could modify the theme for that, if it is that important | 22:48 |
| ElderDryas | gNewPower: If you have only two icons on the desktop, hy not just drop them on the panel, and get rid of all icons on the desktop? | 22:51 |
| ElderDryas | no icons == no bubble | 22:51 |
| gNewPower | ElderDryas, you are right | 23:26 |
| gNewPower | thanks | 23:26 |
| gNewPower | idea adopted :-) | 23:26 |
| gNewPower | uh. drag-n-drop did not work | 23:27 |
| gNewPower | that's ok, I will find the way to do so | 23:27 |
| ElderDryas | gNewPower: Sorry, was at the party :) Grab the icon (from the menu), hold it, move it around the panel until a small + shows up on the icon, then drop it. | 23:42 |
| ElderDryas | But if it's a data file, not an app, it won't work, unfortunately. | 23:43 |
| gNewPower | hey ElderDryas no probs, and thanks a lot. btw - Xubuntu really is fantastic. I will hang out more around here I think. cya | 23:43 |
| gNewPower | np | 23:43 |
| ElderDryas | good luck and have fun... | 23:43 |
| gNewPower | I am, I am ;-) | 23:44 |
| xrdodrx | gNewPower, hold up, I'm sure I saw a way somewhere... | 23:48 |
| gNewPower | xrdodrx, no worry, I just removed em pesty icons :-) | 23:49 |
| gNewPower | but thanks for that deluge of kind help :-) I like this channel as much as I like the distro | 23:49 |
| xrdodrx | yeah, I only knew the way to remove the "backgrounds" behind the icon text :( | 23:50 |
| ElderDryas | gNewPower: You just have to ask questions that we know the answers too...ask a hard one and you're on your own :) | 23:50 |
| xrdodrx | In xfce 4.10 xfdesktop is going away and thunar is becoming the desktop manager :D | 23:50 |
| ElderDryas | Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 23:51 |
| xrdodrx | sadly it's not public until january and might not make it into LTS | 23:51 |
| xrdodrx | :s | 23:51 |
| gNewPower | xrdodrx, and that way was how? | 23:51 |
| xrdodrx | gNewPower, make a file called ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and put style "xfdesktop-icon-view" { XfdesktopIconView::label-alpha = 0 } in it | 23:52 |
| xrdodrx | and widget_class "*XfdesktopIconView*" style "xfdesktop-icon-view" | 23:53 |
| gNewPower | and then, don't I have to restart something? | 23:53 |
| xrdodrx | gNewPower, simply logging out and in should do it... | 23:54 |
| gNewPower | k | 23:54 |
| gNewPower | thanks | 23:54 |
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