[05:18] anybody here? [05:18] ? [05:19] looks like there's 65 in the channel [05:20] people say that xubuntu runs well in 256 mb ram, but my computer with 256 mb ram and 2.4 GHz processor always hangs in the middle of installation process..........!!! :(((( [05:21] did you check the cd or iso? [05:23] yes, i just downloaded 689.5 mb ISO file and burned it in a cd. The CD worked fine in my laptop with 3 Gb RAM [05:24] is there a swap file on the hard disk? [05:24] s/file/partition/ [05:24] yes i have a page file in the Windows XP [05:25] not installed linux distro yet in that computer [05:25] not the same thing but ok [05:25] how do you know the comp hangs during installation [05:25] ? [05:32] during installation process, after choosing lanuage, when i click the "Forward" button. Then the comptuter hangs.....may be becoz of lack of memory [05:32] xubuntu isn't lightweight anymore .... :( [05:32] Using the alternate installer could help [05:35] you do need a fair bit of memory to run the live cd [05:35] what about alternate cd? [05:36] !alternate [05:36] The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal [05:55] #testing === unorthodox is now known as Guest60505 === evo_dox is now known as unorthodoxme [12:57] Shouldn't thunar be able to mount remote shares over ssh? [13:09] joris, gigolo can [13:09] (applications menu => system => gigolo) [13:13] ablomen: thanks! [13:28] ablomen: I can't get gigolo to connect. I can also not select ssh for service type only custum location. Any ideas? [13:31] ablomen: got it! I needed to install gvs-backends and now it works! [13:32] joris, ok cool :) [13:36] btw I would have never find out that a program with the name gigolo would mount remote shares... [13:37] and I hope that my girlfriend does not often check firefox history, because she will be asking why I was googling for a gigolo... [13:39] joris, haha well the name is gigolo because "it mounts everything you tell it to mount" [14:43] <_ToZ> quit [14:45] wish gigolo automatically installed the gvfs-backends package [14:45] since its required for most share types [14:56] hi chaps [14:56] has anyone come across an issue with XUbuntu 11.04 where mouse settings (IE acceleration and threshold) don't persist across logins? [15:02] Cosmoe: No, they have always worked for me. [15:03] i see [15:03] do you know where the settings are stored? [15:03] What happens if you edit file:///home/drc/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/pointers.xml [15:03] Why no mention of 11.10 at xubuntu.com (or ubuntu.com)? [15:03] change drc to your login [15:03] backup the file before editing :) [15:04] likemindead: becasue it's not released yet (tomorrow) [15:04] Right. [15:04] now, it appears to have changed that file ElderDryas [15:04] to the settings i've input [15:04] but it must be resetting or something on my fresh login [15:04] There's most always a "Coming Soon" or countdown or something, though. [15:04] i suppose i could make it RO [15:05] likemindead: We didn't get one written [15:05] However, it is in the topic here [15:05] Ah. No worries. [15:05] True dat. [15:06] Cosmoe: Change the settins to what you want, re-start X (or reboot) open the file and see what it says. If it's changed from what you want, "Houston, we have a problem" :) [15:06] yeah, not good eh [15:06] brb [15:06] don't forget to save session [15:06] if session is not saved, settings are not saved either [15:07] Hi everybody. I need a help with my xubuntu. I'm from Poland and my gramma isn't very good, but I tried all what I've found. [15:07] ... i see [15:07] that seems a little counter-intuitive [15:07] brb [15:07] !details | ubuntu_ [15:07] ubuntu_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [15:08] charlie-tca: I have never overtly saved a session and my mouse settings carry over. Does Xubuntu automagically save the session (probably as a default) ? [15:09] charlie-tca: Maybe that is why if I leave, say, xchat open when I shut down it comes up the next time I start. [15:10] Even though I do not have Automatically save session checked.... [15:11] I have a problem with grub rescue. I'm running Xubuntu 11.04 on live CD. I've installed it today. I had Windows XP before and Xubuntu is on the second partition I had (not the windows xp partition, even if I choose option to install Xubuntu near windows) [15:11] it looks like the file stays the same ... [15:11] but the settings aren't applied [15:12] and grub doesn't loading, so I can't choose OS [15:14] Cosmoe: This may sound silly, but are you sure you are modifying the correct mouse? [15:14] yep [15:14] 100% sure [15:14] and you were right to ask, as I do have two 'mice' [15:14] the touchpad and an external mpuse [15:14] mouse * [15:14] Cosmoe: OK, I asked becasue I made the mistake of modifying the PS@ mouse and wondered why it wasn't working with my wireless optical mouse :) [15:15] heh [15:15] er...PS2 [15:15] I spent few hours in front of my laptop. I'm hungry, tired and angry. [15:15] well according to pointers.xml, my touchpad has acceleration of 5 [15:15] but it has none whatsoever [15:15] i wonder if it's getting confused because I have two devices [15:15] Touchpad and Mouse? [15:16] that's right [15:16] it's a bcm5974 touchpad (Macbook Pro) [15:16] Works For Me (tm) :) [15:16] which i'm using the mtrack driver for [15:17] ElderDryas: yes, your session is saving automatically [15:17] i've tried saving the session specifically and it still seems to be an issue [15:18] There are two places for save session on exit, on is at the logout screen, the other is in "Sessions and Startup" [15:20] ChanServ: And even if I choose neither, the session is save...hmmmm [15:21] hmmm [15:21] if both are unchecked, the session should not save, unless you are opening a previously saved session. [15:21] If you close everything, save session, logout, login, nothing should should start [15:21] * ElderDryas for one welcomes our new digital overlords. [15:24] What a load of bull. >> http://yourbrowsermatters.org/ [15:24] hello everyone [15:24] well, it is by microsoft, afterall [15:24] !hi | williammw [15:24] williammw: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [15:25] hello williammw [15:27] hello M-n-M [15:32] looks like even if i set the correct settings in my xorg.conf that xubuntu will reset them to some strange default when i log back in [15:33] it seems the best way around this is to simply have a script that i can run that calls "xset m 5 10" [15:34] Nothing should be changing xorg.conf [15:34] Cosmoe: Mine doesn't change [15:34] The only files Xubuntu should be changing are in ~/.config and ~/.cache [15:34] it isn't changing xorg.conf charlie-tca [15:34] it isn't changing profiles.xml in .config either [15:35] it's just that somehow xubuntu sees fit to tell X some other arbitrary acceleration value that isn't from either of those files [15:36] this appears to only happen at login though [15:37] so i can then run my script to xset the mouse settings BACK to what i actually want them as again [15:40] i had that problem with my NAS. [15:41] <_Pete_> hey everyone [15:41] <_Pete_> I want to thank you [15:41] hello pete [15:41] <_Pete_> this xfce/xubuntu is excellent [15:42] i like the Xfce better also [15:43] this is my second distro install [15:43] <_Pete_> after this kde3->4 and now gnome->whatever force update [15:43] <_Pete_> this is just the only option [15:46] i found gnome to be a lil touchy, and in the future i hope to build some more flavors. [15:47] <_Pete_> yes but with newest ubuntu [15:47] <_Pete_> you are forced to gnome3 [15:47] <_Pete_> that is totally sucks [15:47] <_Pete_> like was force kde3 to kde4 [15:48] lol true [15:50] yeah, forcing people out of 90s [15:50] I never liked kde3 or gnome2 but xfce is still awesome [15:51] <_Pete_> I liked and still like kde3 best [15:51] <_Pete_> unfortunatelly it is not easy to use with modern ubuntu [16:25] Sign number 314159 that the world is about to end...tonight my sister is abandoning Windows and installing Xubuntu. What's next? [16:26] Abandoning Xubuntu and buying a mac [16:26] Wonders never cease... [16:26] She uses Macs at work, doesn't really like them [16:26] Besides, she's cheap [16:28] So, I've got my work cut out for me tonight...She's using the Desktop to talk to me while she installs on her laptop. Time to stock up on caffine. [16:28] I noticed that the daily's haven't changed since Monday.... [16:29] I take that to mean 1) the ISO is really in it's final form; or 2) Everything is broke and they are starting over. [16:30] they better have [16:31] we just got new desktop images today, and the alternate image should be dated yesterday (2011-10-11) [16:32] OK, I was looking at the daily-live [16:33] we just got new ones for daily-live dated 2011-10-12 [16:34] yeah, you rat...let me open my big mouth and then you shove my foot in it :( [16:34] hit refresh and BOOM :) [16:36] That's because I run 10 tests for each new image they put out this week [16:47] you don't like mac, you just get job done with it [16:53] Sysi: It's my sister, she hasn't made sense since she was 5 [16:54] not bad [16:55] oneiric installation is pretty fast on virtualbox on ssd [16:59] Sysi, how do you like SSD v. HDD? Any special configurations you had to perform before running Xubuntu virtual or native w/ SSD? [16:59] you basically don't need to, but there are some tweak you can do if you want [17:00] noatime,discard to fstab and elevator=noop to kernel options [17:02] oneiric is like iphone 4S, looks ~exactly the same but everyone tells you it's new and fancier :P [17:03] Sysi: Nah, they moved some stuff around in the menu(s) [17:17] hi all, could I get help troubleshooting my mic. I am running xu 11.04 on a dell c400 [17:23] Oh yeah, All those offer of help. I am filling the love :-) [17:23] feeling :-) [17:23] !audio [17:23] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [17:23] see that second link [17:24] not everything from it applies to xubuntu, but there are some things you can try [17:26] Thanks. Part of the problem I believe is that for some reason gnome stuff is running in the back gtoung including sound related stuff like volume control [17:26] amixer sget mic gives me the following: [17:27] Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined cvolume cvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Capture 0 - 15 Mono: Playback 21 [68%] [-3.00dB] [off] Front Left: Capture 1 [7%] [1.50dB] [off] Front Right: Capture 1 [7%] [1.50dB] [off] [17:27] open the mixer and unmute the mic [17:34] Ok added mic to mixer, un muted, tried recording using arecord but did not work. I do hear my self though [17:34] menaing that the mic picks up sound and sent them striaght to the speakers [17:38] gregounours: you can try installing padevchooser [17:38] gregounours: and selecting the right source for your application [17:42] it's installing pulseaudio [17:42] I was trying to stay away from it [17:42] but we'll see [17:43] :-) [17:43] um, pulseaudio should be installed by default in xubuntu [17:44] I removed it in an attempt to amke things work [17:44] :-) [17:45] should i run padevchooser in from terminal? [17:46] or from menu [17:46] doesn't matter [17:46] you should see it in the system tray [17:48] it is but it detect no device [17:49] is pulseaudio running? [17:51] it is [17:52] well may be not [17:52] let me check task monitor [17:52] it normally starts when you log in [17:52] but if you just installed it, you might need to run it manually [17:53] ok i just did run pulseaudio [17:53] hello [17:54] Does Xubuntu know or care whether an amd64 system has ECC RAM? [17:54] ball: it will show in lshw [17:54] and it shows in task manager "pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog" [17:54] gregounours: ok, still no device? [17:55] TheSheep: thanks. For corrected memory errors, are those reported to the OS? [17:55] ball: I have no idea, but I think they are handled internally [17:56] ball: by the memory chip itself [17:56] I imagine they're handled by the chipset... I was interested more in reporting. [17:57] I quit and restarted padevchooser no change [17:57] as I said earlier I have a bunch of gnome audio stuff running that dome from I don't know where as I installed Xubuntu from the cd [17:58] gregounours: but aumix/alsamixer shows it just fine? [17:58] yeah [17:58] that's weird [17:58] alsmixer seems to work alright [17:58] how about pavucontrol? [17:59] also, does the program you use for recording have an option to select with device to use? [18:05] well I was trying to use skype [18:05] but even using arecord in terminal nothing gets recorded [18:09] skype has config for which device to use, *if* you don't have pulseaudio installed [18:09] otherwise it uses pulseaudio automatically, afair [19:31] How do I stop Gnone related processes to start [19:32] they got installed when I added some program [19:32] and i can't get rid oif them [19:33] I tried the "application autostart" route to no avail [19:33] There is a Settings Manager>Sessions and Startup>Advanced>Launch GNOME services...but I'm not sure that's what you are talking about. [19:33] That's unchecked [19:34] If you tell me where I can copy my process list I can pist it [19:34] Can't seem to be able to do it from task Manager [19:40] :-( [19:48] gregounours, ps aux > file in a terminal will output the list of running processes to a file called `file' in the current directory, usually your home folder [19:48] you can then paste this list into paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin.com [19:56] Is there going to be a #ubuntureleaseparty (or whatever it's called) this release? [19:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/706957/ [19:57] As you can see there is all kind of gvfs stuff in there [19:58] as well as 3 gnome entries [19:59] ElderDryas > you can alwways organize one :-) [20:00] nah, then everyone will drink MY beer..."Oh I forgot to bring some, maybe next time" :) [20:01] !isitout [20:01] Nope! Ubuntu 11.10 is scheduled for release sometime on October 13th. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party while you're waiting! [20:01] that one? [20:02] that one! [20:02] I won't go near it [20:02] I might, to drink THEIR beer. [20:03] Anyone taking bets on who gets booted first for "IS It Out Yet?" too many times? === slow-motion_ is now known as slow-motion [20:35] So anybody as a sec to look at my dump? [20:36] I am reposting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/706957/ [22:01] hi! is is possible to remove the text under the icons shown on the desktop? thanks [22:04] why? [22:05] just because I don't need the text under them [22:05] gNewPower: Do you have a way to identify what the icon is for when there are three or four the same? [22:05] I only have 2 icons [22:06] I don't have any way to remove the text, but you could make it as small a font as possible, probably 6pt [22:06] ok [22:06] thanks [22:06] brb === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [22:41] back [22:42] charlie-tca, how about making the background of the text under the icons transparent? I don't really mind the text itself, as the white bubble in which it sits and which contrasts very heavily with my darker desktop wallpaper. thanks! [22:48] I guess you could modify the theme for that, if it is that important [22:51] gNewPower: If you have only two icons on the desktop, hy not just drop them on the panel, and get rid of all icons on the desktop? [22:51] no icons == no bubble [23:26] ElderDryas, you are right [23:26] thanks [23:26] idea adopted :-) [23:27] uh. drag-n-drop did not work [23:27] that's ok, I will find the way to do so [23:42] gNewPower: Sorry, was at the party :) Grab the icon (from the menu), hold it, move it around the panel until a small + shows up on the icon, then drop it. [23:43] But if it's a data file, not an app, it won't work, unfortunately. [23:43] hey ElderDryas no probs, and thanks a lot. btw - Xubuntu really is fantastic. I will hang out more around here I think. cya [23:43] np [23:43] good luck and have fun... [23:44] I am, I am ;-) [23:48] gNewPower, hold up, I'm sure I saw a way somewhere... [23:49] xrdodrx, no worry, I just removed em pesty icons :-) [23:49] but thanks for that deluge of kind help :-) I like this channel as much as I like the distro [23:50] yeah, I only knew the way to remove the "backgrounds" behind the icon text :( [23:50] gNewPower: You just have to ask questions that we know the answers too...ask a hard one and you're on your own :) [23:50] In xfce 4.10 xfdesktop is going away and thunar is becoming the desktop manager :D [23:51] Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [23:51] sadly it's not public until january and might not make it into LTS [23:51] :s [23:51] xrdodrx, and that way was how? [23:52] gNewPower, make a file called ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and put style "xfdesktop-icon-view" { XfdesktopIconView::label-alpha = 0 } in it [23:53] and widget_class "*XfdesktopIconView*" style "xfdesktop-icon-view" [23:53] and then, don't I have to restart something? [23:54] gNewPower, simply logging out and in should do it... [23:54] k [23:54] thanks