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| poolie | cinerama, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/255687 | 05:11 |
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| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 255687 in Bazaar "log and annotate should work on removed files" [Medium,Confirmed] | 05:11 |
| wgz | still dark outside... | 06:02 |
| AuroraBorealis | its dark outside here too! | 06:02 |
| poolie | hi wgz | 06:06 |
| poolie | beautiful day here | 06:06 |
| * fullermd searches around to find a window, and discovers darkness there too.... | 06:13 | |
| wgz | :) | 06:14 |
| fullermd | It's like a giant plague, taking over! It probably covers half the world by now :( | 06:14 |
| wgz | okay, nearly time for bus | 06:37 |
| wgz | cow-orking today. | 06:38 |
| poolie | oh great | 06:39 |
| poolie | i'm out for a bit to play squash, probably back later | 06:39 |
| jam | poolie: i think I mentioned earlier, but they put a 1hr inetd timeout on savannah, i believe. | 06:48 |
| jam | I don't think it is from bzr, I think it is from their configuration. | 06:49 |
| jam | morning all | 06:49 |
| Pegasus_RPG_ | Hello. I just wanted to find out what the best way of moving/copying a bzr checkout to another PC is? | 07:45 |
| Pegasus_RPG_ | (I'm on a slow Internet connection and don't want to have to check it out again) | 07:45 |
| mgz | good morning. | 08:07 |
| mgz | kirkland deserves some praise, fix up etckeeper in oneiric from yesterday | 08:10 |
| poolie | hi mgz, jam | 08:23 |
| poolie | jam, oh it kills it after an hour regardless? | 08:23 |
| jam | poolie: I'd have to track down the original message, let me check | 08:23 |
| jam | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/824797 | 08:25 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 824797 in Bazaar "bzr serve doesn't drop idle/dead connections" [High,Fix released] | 08:25 |
| jam | I may have just been confused | 08:25 |
| jam | because he closed the connection himself after 1 hour | 08:25 |
| poolie | i think that's imapd, or maybe inetd, closing it | 08:34 |
| cjwatson | hey, I'd like to have a working Debian dpkg import today for Ubuntu precise opening, and apparently it's blocked on bug 714622 | 09:25 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 714622 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "import fails when lp branch has been push --overwrite'n" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714622 | 09:25 |
| cjwatson | I've deleted the 1.16.0~ubuntu8 tag from the natty branch, since AFAICS it doesn't correspond to anything that was ever accepted into the archive | 09:26 |
| cjwatson | could somebody please requeue it and see if that's enough to fix this? | 09:26 |
| poolie | hi cjwatson | 09:30 |
| poolie | i'll do that now | 09:30 |
| poolie | mgz: hi meet cjwatson | 09:30 |
| mgz | hi cjwatson! | 09:31 |
| cjwatson | heya | 09:31 |
| poolie | cjwatson: do you mean 'an import of dpkg itself'? | 09:32 |
| cjwatson | I mean package-import | 09:35 |
| cjwatson | http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/dpkg.html | 09:35 |
| cjwatson | sorry for slow response, I'm doing Ubuntu 11.10 publishing | 09:35 |
| poolie | it's running now | 09:37 |
| poolie | btw multi-tarball inputs should be supported fairly soon | 09:38 |
| poolie | cjwatson: it seems to be failing on | 09:43 |
| poolie | AssertionError: ('steve.langasek@linaro.org-20110325000519-s1f74q0j9esmvs1s', '0d73da5a0af194cfc458d9ec624b6f42209f35f7') != (u'james.westby@ubuntu.com-20110324170447-1m0lwg8kvwt6yfli', u'c7a0e118cb0af317cf3e7af7874192fa4c405d0a') for dpkg 1.16.0~ubuntu6 in natty, something has changed | 09:43 |
| poolie | could that be a similar problem? | 09:44 |
| cjwatson | hmm | 09:45 |
| cjwatson | ok, I'll have another look in a minute, worst case is deleting a tag likely to solve the problem? | 09:45 |
| poolie | it seems possible | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | hmm | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | I don't see the latter revision id in either lp:ubuntu/dpkg or lp:ubuntu/natty/dpkg | 09:47 |
| cjwatson | where might it be coming from? | 09:47 |
| poolie | hm, let me see if i can work out more | 09:47 |
| poolie | cjwatson: i'll try a full reimport | 09:49 |
| cjwatson | poolie: um | 09:53 |
| cjwatson | poolie: will that trash existing revision ids? we are actually using lp:ubuntu/dpkg | 09:53 |
| cjwatson | definitely don't want to lose that | 09:53 |
| poolie | i killed it | 09:54 |
| jam | cjwatson: the 'latter' revision_id is probably the one the package importer stores in its sql database tracking what has been imported. | 09:57 |
| jam | It is the one that the importer had imported to match the given debian revision. | 09:57 |
| jam | well, ubuntu revision, obviously :) | 09:57 |
| jam | lifeless: you mention that nose is evil, do you have a recommended test runner? | 09:59 |
| cjwatson | is it possible to excise that, or would that cause other problems? | 09:59 |
| jam | cjwatson: it is possible, though I don't specifically know a way that isn't hacking the sql database directly. | 09:59 |
| jam | lifeless: I'm trying "py -m testtools.run" but it is a bit wonky | 10:00 |
| jam | like '-v' for verbose doesn't do anything, etc. | 10:00 |
| poolie | i think we do need to excise them, and that would be a good fix for this | 10:01 |
| lifeless | jam: I usually use testr | 10:01 |
| poolie | cjwatson: i need to go and get S from uni in a bit, but jelmer and mgz will be here soon and may be able to fix it | 10:01 |
| lifeless | jam: which builds on py -m subunit.run | 10:02 |
| lifeless | (which extends testtools.run) | 10:02 |
| poolie | or maybe maxb? | 10:02 |
| cjwatson | ok, thanks | 10:02 |
| maxb | I can look at it at lunchtime | 10:03 |
| maxb | (London lunchtime, that is) | 10:03 |
| poolie | thanks | 10:04 |
| mgz | cool, I'm not sure which bits to poke with package stuff yet | 10:04 |
| poolie | maybe max can tell you about it | 10:04 |
| poolie | night all | 10:18 |
| mgz | night poolie. | 10:19 |
| jam | night poolie | 10:34 |
| jam | mgz: so, after tons of bug filing I found the problem :) | 10:34 |
| jam | (why I was running more tests) | 10:34 |
| jam | the old, non-scenario code was using mixins, of the form class TestsForX(Mixin, TestCase) | 10:34 |
| jam | and I accidentally had the same "TestsForX" class name in two places. | 10:35 |
| jam | So scenarios really did give me better coverage, as it is a lot harder to make the mistakes you can make with mixins | 10:35 |
| jam | figuring that out was very clumsy with the bugs I ran into. | 10:35 |
| mgz | jam: ha, that's actually really interesting | 10:37 |
| jam | mgz: also, if I use the 'load_tests' hook, then 'discover --list' works correctly, since the suite of tests is determined at load time, rather than at run time. | 10:39 |
| jam | but -v is still broken, etc. | 10:39 |
| jam | (and I had to patch --list to make it work :) | 10:39 |
| jam | mgz: also lots of other oddities. Like testscenarios.TestWithScenario inherits directly from unittest.TestCase rather than testtools.TestCase | 10:42 |
| jam | which matters when you try to run with --verbose | 10:43 |
| jam | because TextTestRunner uses test.shortDescription() to determine what name to print | 10:43 |
| jam | and unittest.TestCase returns the docstring or nothing | 10:43 |
| jam | (thus using str(Test) for the representation) | 10:43 |
| jam | while testtools.TestCase returns self.id() as the short description | 10:43 |
| jam | so TestWithScenarios was doing the multiplying correctly, but it wasn't showing the new test ids. | 10:43 |
| jam | because str(test) wasn't changing. | 10:44 |
| Mez | I'm currently reviewing our internal code hosting stuff for bzr. Anyone know of any tutorials for a decent setup (pref with stuff like hookless emails etc) or a good way of working within a team? | 10:45 |
| Mez | What we've got a the moment is a kind of "mish-mash" repository (basically bzr+ssh) and was wondering if anyone knows a better way of doing it. | 10:45 |
| Mez | I'd use something like LP's code-hosting if it wasn't a proprietary development | 10:46 |
| cjwatson | canonical-bazaar / LOSA: Please stop the package importer for Oneiric | 10:48 |
| cjwatson | (per http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseProcess) | 10:48 |
| gnuoy | cjwatson, ok, I'll take a look | 10:48 |
| Riddell | Mez: launchpad is open source | 10:50 |
| Mez | Riddell: indeed it is - however - it's not exactly the best solution for us as a whole. | 10:51 |
| lifeless | Mez: thumper made a standalone lp based codehosting system | 10:52 |
| Mez | If it were easy enought to pull out the code-hosting stuff on it's own, that'd be fine - but the rest of it would just get in the way (and the setup/dependencies to get LP running locally is a bit of a pain) | 10:52 |
| Mez | lifeless: oh, cool - that's exaclty the kind of response I wass hoping to hear :) | 10:52 |
| lifeless | its designed for school projects and soon, but should be close enough to consider | 10:54 |
| Mez | yeah - just looking over it now. I have a feeling that I might even be able to contribute to it. | 10:54 |
| Mez | (Mainly, I see the ability to add stuff like code review/merges/pqm-esque stuff) | 10:56 |
| Mez | (I do like LP's Pqm-esque stuff) | 10:56 |
| mgz | jam: do you know how to stop the package importer for Oneiric as cjwatson asked? | 10:56 |
| mgz | gnuoy and I are... not completely sure what to do | 10:57 |
| cjwatson | james_w should but probably isn't up yet | 10:57 |
| james_w | hi | 10:58 |
| cjwatson | aha | 10:58 |
| james_w | I wish I wasn't :-) | 10:58 |
| james_w | mgz, gnuoy, it's mass-import on jubany, it has an init script | 10:59 |
| mgz | cjwatson: done (with more than a little help :) | 11:03 |
| cjwatson | thanks! | 11:04 |
| lifeless | Ran 23 tests in 4.600s | 11:08 |
| lifeless | OK | 11:08 |
| lifeless | bah | 11:08 |
| ccxCZ | Mez: I plan to do something like codehosting system eventually, basically by integrating bzr, sphinx, roundup and buildbot | 11:24 |
| ccxCZ | lightweight, componentized & extensible | 11:25 |
| ccxCZ | but it will take some work, mainly on the sphinx front I think | 11:25 |
| Mez | ccxCZ: actually - sloecode looks promising - however, I think zope is broken in Oneiric. | 11:26 |
| Mez | http://paste.ubuntu.com/707279/ | 11:27 |
| ccxCZ | not zope, just older zope.interface than paste requires it seems | 11:32 |
| ccxCZ | either upgrade or use different wsgi launcher (I use uwsgi) | 11:32 |
| ccxCZ | zope.interface is independent of the rest of zope and used by other projects aswell, eg. twisted | 11:33 |
| mgz | okay, looks like the basic idea of the morning works: <http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707284/> | 11:36 |
| mgz | I shall now go and have lunch | 11:37 |
| awilkins | qbzr diff viewer ; any way to make the view options sticky or preconfigure them? | 12:08 |
| awilkins | Specifically I want to make "ignore whitespace" sticky because the project team I'm working with have annoyingly different whitespace settings in their IDEs (yes, I should just slap them, but that's not an option. Sadly.) | 12:09 |
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| mgz | awilkins: you can pass the option on the command line to qdiff, but I don't think there's a conf option for it | 13:06 |
| mgz | awilkins: could file a bug against qbzr for that, but really sounds like you need to do some slapping | 13:07 |
| * fullermd is occasionally irritated at the unconfigurability of qdiff too. | 13:08 | |
| fullermd | If I used it more often, I'd have local hacks sitting around in the code like there's no tomorrow. | 13:08 |
| mgz | I think there's some blame for bzrlib for various parts not quite being flexible enough for reuse in a gui | 13:12 |
| awilkins | Alas, I can only limit my slapping to people I manage | 13:14 |
| awilkins | These are the guys who thought they were OOOO so clever to sit around wasting hours discuss code formatting standards and then don't stick to a consistent IDE config (as predicted by Yours Truly - the only config you should use is the DEFAULT one) | 13:16 |
| awilkins | Unless your IDE is clever enough to infer formatting rules from the files it opens (which Eclipse isn't, apart from line endings, it seems) | 13:16 |
| fullermd | If you just converted to APL, you wouldn't have to worry about formatting rules... | 13:19 |
| jay567 | hi | 13:24 |
| jay567 | i need to install from source, but i don't find the right download | 13:25 |
| mgz | under downloads on launchpad, the last one should always be a .tar.gz source package | 13:29 |
| mgz | eg, https://launchpad.net/bzr/+downloads | 13:29 |
| mgz | *ie | 13:30 |
| jay567 | thank you, i didn't see the right bar, thought it would have to be under 'code' | 13:32 |
| jay567 | there i am again... the downloaded package says python 2.6 needed... on the pages all i've seen is 2.4, whioch i have to work with | 13:49 |
| mgz | you need 2.3 then jay567 | 13:49 |
| mgz | bzr-2.3.4.tar.gz same page, further down | 13:50 |
| kirkland | mgz: ;-) thanks | 13:51 |
| jay567 | :) | 13:52 |
| jay567 | next obstacle: ImportError: No module named distutils | 14:10 |
| jay567 | in setup.py | 14:10 |
| mgz | jay567: ...do you have a full python installed, or just a core system package? | 14:14 |
| mgz | distutils is part of the standard library and should be packed in "python" | 14:15 |
| jay567 | i want to run bazaar on a server of my university... | 14:15 |
| jay567 | maybe i can get them to install some modules for me... | 14:16 |
| mgz | and you have no ability to request packages? | 14:16 |
| mgz | if they can give you a working python (and ideally some build tools, pyrex and gcc), then you can do a user install of bazaar | 14:17 |
| mgz | or they might just be able to install the bazaar package for you. | 14:17 |
| mgz | jay567: as a final option, you may be able to get away with not having bazaar there as you can still work over sftp for instance | 14:19 |
| jay567 | what do you mean by user install? isn't this what i tried? (python setup.py install --home $HOME) | 14:22 |
| fullermd | Well, you can run it in place without installing. Though you may not even be able to build the C extensions without distutils, so you may be stuck with the slower pure-python variants... | 14:23 |
| mgz | jay567: yes, that kind of thing. | 14:24 |
| mgz | as fullermd says, you can get away without using install at all, but without the extensions you may not be better off then you would be just treating the server as a filesystem where you can put branches | 14:26 |
| fullermd | Well, even without the extensions, I'm sure using it for bzr+ssh would beat the crap out of sftp, unless the server itself is mind-zonkingly slow and very [network-topologically-] close by. | 14:27 |
| fullermd | Dumb servers are occasionally a necessary evil. But they're way more the short word than the long one :p | 14:27 |
| * mgz defers to the greater wisdom | 14:27 | |
| jay567 | ;) | 14:27 |
| jay567 | ehm | 14:27 |
| fullermd | (it's not greater wisdom; I just take any excuse to say "mind-zonkingly", 'cuz it's way fun. You should try it sometime.) | 14:28 |
| fullermd | Try just running 'gmake' in the dir, see if it can do enough to build the C extensions. I'm betting 'no', sadly... | 14:29 |
| jay567 | so if i commit to a 'server', my local bzr calls the server-bzr via ssh... yes? | 14:29 |
| jay567 | gmake and make just return the distutils error | 14:30 |
| fullermd | There are a lot of variations, depending on details of your setup. But in practice I'd say 'no'. | 14:30 |
| fullermd | Just think of the server and your local as separate branches, that you sync up occasionally (probably only working on one side at a time) | 14:30 |
| fullermd | So you commit locally, then you 'push' to the server, which calls that bzr over an ssh channel. | 14:30 |
| jay567 | yes | 14:30 |
| fullermd | Yeah. Figured. Sounds like a pretty wacked out python install to not have distutils though. | 14:31 |
| jay567 | i think they are pretty afraid of the students, every student from the computer science faculty has a shell account there | 14:31 |
| fullermd | As well they should be :p | 14:32 |
| mgz | jay567: try asking nicely for a proper python and build tools. | 14:32 |
| * fullermd remembers being a CS student once, and it would be a pretty dumb staff/prof who wasn't scared to death of him :p | 14:32 | |
| jay567 | :P | 14:32 |
| jay567 | so, what do I need to do to get the 'push' working? tell my local bzr where to find the bzr binary on the server? | 14:33 |
| fullermd | Well, there's an env var I'd have to look up to give the remote path. | 14:35 |
| fullermd | Easier probably just to put it in your $PATH though. | 14:35 |
| jay567 | yes | 14:35 |
| fullermd | You could e.g. have a ~/bin/bzr symlink that points to ~/src/bzr-a.b.c/bzr | 14:35 |
| fullermd | (assuming ~/bin/ is in your path of course. But naturally it is, surely) | 14:35 |
| jay567 | i see | 14:36 |
| fullermd | It should Just Work(tm) then. With the python fallbacks, so slower in various operations than would be possible otherwise, but it'll work. | 14:37 |
| jay567 | i don't thnk performance is a big issue | 14:38 |
| jay567 | where do i put the config files in this case? | 14:49 |
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| james_w | and there is precise :-) | 15:09 |
| james_w | the package importer has just seen it and created all the jobs to create the branches, it will get to them when it is started again | 15:09 |
| mgz | james_w: should be be started again? | 15:16 |
| mgz | *it be | 15:16 |
| james_w | we should get notification when they are ready for it | 15:17 |
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| james_w | I expect it could be started now, but let's wait | 15:17 |
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| slangasek | jam, poolie: as far as bug #714622 is concerned, I think the correct course of action for *all* the affected packages is to take the revid currently on the branch as authoritative... bad form as it may be, if someone has bzr push --overwritten (or otherwise changed the tag), they've done so for a reason. As long as someone's doing db surgery, could you do so for the other 48 affected packages on http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ ? :) | 16:21 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 714622 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "import fails when lp branch has been push --overwrite'n" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714622 | 16:21 |
| slangasek | (this would help me for sysvinit in particular) | 16:21 |
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| CaMason | Hi guys. How can I 'merge' / squash 2 commits into one? | 16:31 |
| jelmer_ | CaMason: "bzr uncommit; bzr uncommit; bzr commit -m "Commit message for the squashed commit" | 16:43 |
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| jelmer_ | wgz: hi | 17:32 |
| wgz | jelmer: hi, just back from cow-orking | 17:36 |
| wgz | I see from your summary page the builddeb test tweak worked for maverick and natty | 17:37 |
| jelmer_ | wgz: did you perhaps request a rebuild for bzr-builddeb? | 17:37 |
| jelmer_ | I'm a bit surprised by the upload error | 17:37 |
| wgz | have you got a bug for the other lucid failures? I guess it's some known issue with the debian helper script not existing in that ancient a release? | 17:37 |
| wgz | jelmer: nope, I shouldn't have touched any buttons | 17:37 |
| jelmer_ | wgz: I've fixed those I think | 17:38 |
| jelmer_ | http://people.canonical.com/~jelmer/recipe-status/bzr.html | 17:38 |
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| jelmer_ | I had to backport cython for hardy as well | 17:39 |
| wgz | ha, I see what you mean about the 'failed to upload' | 17:39 |
| wgz | is that not just something about today being release day? | 17:40 |
| jelmer_ | wgz: that usually happens when somebody hits the "Request a build" button | 17:40 |
| jelmer_ | and the same version gets built twice | 17:40 |
| wgz | (looking at the <https://code.launchpad.net/~bzr/+recipe/bzr-builddeb-daily> page) | 17:40 |
| wgz | right, food time for me. | 17:41 |
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| maxb | Anyone know why the UDD importer is not running? | 21:48 |
| wgz | I stopped it. | 21:49 |
| wgz | and james_w said "let's wait" when I asked about restarting after the release was done. | 21:50 |
| wgz | it may well now be time to start it again. | 21:50 |
| wgz | if you have any idea, please say maxb :) | 21:52 |
| maxb | I'm not clear why it needed to be stopped at all? | 21:52 |
| maxb | cjwatson was asking about getting the dpkg import fixed today, but I'm confused, as it appears to have last run successfully | 21:53 |
| wgz | after that, another item on his checklist for the release was to stop the Bazaar importer | 21:54 |
| wgz | ...I don't have any more information than that, I'm afraid | 21:54 |
| maxb | Oh, wait, it'll be so it's not trying to do stuff whilst LP's branch-distro.py process is executing | 21:56 |
| james_w | exactly | 21:57 |
| james_w | we don't want to be pushing up branches for the new series before that has run, otherwise it will lead to a huge increase in storage used | 21:59 |
| wgz | what's the run time on that? :) | 22:00 |
| james_w | 18397 outstanding jobs | 22:00 |
| james_w | it | 22:00 |
| james_w | it's around 18 hours IIRC | 22:00 |
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| maxb | Hmm - the web UI currently says precise has no packages | 22:01 |
| james_w | jam, thanks for the package import status notifications on branch, it's very nice to have | 22:01 |
| maxb | Does that mean the initialize-from-parent / branch-distro stuff is not under way yet? | 22:02 |
| james_w | maybe there was a bug in i-f-p, let me check my scrollback | 22:03 |
| maxb | I suspect a cache of some kind, looks like only the counts on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise are zero | 22:05 |
| maxb | there are definitely publications for precise - which explains the UDD queued jobs, actually | 22:07 |
| james_w | maxb, yeah | 22:08 |
| james_w | seems like there were some problems with publishing, but I can't tell if they were resolved | 22:09 |
| james_w | the people in question left for the day though, so it may be completed tomorrow | 22:09 |
| james_w | branch-distro has been started though | 22:09 |
| poolie | hi all | 22:25 |
| wgz | hey poolie | 22:27 |
| jelmer_ | hey poolie, wgz | 22:30 |
| poolie | hi there | 23:52 |
| Riddell | morning poolie | 23:53 |
| poolie | hi there | 23:54 |
| poolie | can anyone update me on the udd importer? | 23:54 |
| poolie | i guess there is scrollback, perhaps i'll just read that | 23:55 |
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