[00:04] antlarr: to get 4.7 in natty, you need the kubuntu-backports ppa, the kubuntu-ppa is for minor updates, say 4.6.2 to 4.6.5 [00:05] the kubuntu-backports will get you new major version of KDE, so 4.7 [00:06] you should be able to just go directly from 4.6.x straight to 4.7.1 [00:07] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports [00:28] claydoh: argh, you're right [00:30] claydoh: thanks, I'm already updating :) [00:34] antlarr: :) [00:34] Ohhh, Quassel is rather nice. [00:38] Hmmm, 4 hour battery quote in Kubuntu.... 9 hour quote in Windows 7... Much be an issue. === _markb1_ is now known as MarkB1 === jerry is now known as Drecondius [02:00] Hello, i have a question about my gui apt handler and what it did can anyone help me with it? [02:02] I added the repository for Wine 1.3 and the gui crashed waiting for my password which it never prompted me for. [02:42] Hey folks, can anyone help shed light on how I can get my second monitor working under kubuntu 11.04? [02:43] !xrandr | stigma_ [02:43] stigma_: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 [02:44] Thank you both very much. I will read up and come back if I have trouble. [02:51] SO I'm having a lot of problems with my 11.04 install - is installing 11.10 tomorrow a good idea or should I go back to 10.04? [02:58] Hey guys, that link appears to be an excellent guide to configuring detected displays, but doesn't seem to mention how to deal with a display not being detected. Any tips there? [02:59] xrandr reported only the one display, and it even claims not to be reporting correctly, but it's showing my desktop. [02:59] see if the X log mentions anything about it [03:04] whats the Kubuntu-equivalent of Empathy Instant Messenger (GNOME)? [03:04] Forgive me, I'm new to this. What is the x log and where is that found? [03:09] Aha! NVIDIA X Server Settings. What is recommended config: "separate x screen" or "twinview"? [03:15] I believe it's twinview [03:33] TheEvilPhoenix: I believe that would be Kopete [03:34] thanks [03:34] * TheEvilPhoenix is building a custom installation ISO with KDE as the base, but doesn't have the Kubuntu software list handy [04:47] i updated my sources list so that they point to oneiric, and have started upgrading on one machine. i am seeing that a good number of packages are being pulled from the kubuntu ppa. would there be any reason to disable that ppa for the upgrade? [06:05] jmichaelx: Most of the time you disable ppas for upgrades like that [06:12] Daskreech: i probably should have, but the upgrade is well underway now [06:13] jmichaelx: it's not super high likely that it will break anything [06:13] but why risk eh? :) [06:13] eh [06:14] jmichaelx: as long as you live without X for a day or so you should be fine [06:15] i do not disagree. i should have disabled them, but am almost on the verge of not caring [06:17] jmichaelx: If it's any assurance unless you have a crazy mix of ppa it should be fine [06:18] I've seen you around enough to think that you are in a good place [06:19] yes, i was just thinking that i think i have left the ppa's enabled during upgrades for as long as ppa's have been around [07:17] i did get some jave-related dkpg errors... [07:19] i also just noticed that in doing this upgrade, my system was using swap... on a 2.5GHz quad core, with 4GB RAM [07:20] that would seem to me a little ridiculous [07:20] why? live cd's work from ramdisk afaik === honik_ is now known as honik [07:26] i was doing a live upgrade [07:27] also have a ton of open office errors [07:34] well, i predict that the dpkg errors i got are going to be seen by a lot of other people as well, unless this is something that gets fixed by the time stable release is announced === GirlyGirl is now known as Alysha === Alysha is now known as GirlyGIrl [07:45] Hello everybody === mistrynitesh is now known as geekosopher [08:00] lol kde... the bug where icons remaining in the task manager after windows are closed is still alive and well in oneiric/kde4.7.2 [08:13] Первичный ключ - это поле или группа полей, которые единственным образом идентифицируют каждую строку в таблице. Таблица может иметь только один первичный ключ. [08:13] Альтернативный ключ – это поле или группа полей, несовпадающих с первичным ключом и уникально идентифицирующий каждую строку в таблице. Таблица может содержать несколько альтернативных (вторичных) ключей. [08:13] student: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:13] student: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:15] !ru | student [08:15] student: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. === Pauxlo is now known as sprnt === Yamauchi is now known as Zorobabel [09:04] hello folks [09:04] not long now I suppose === jose is now known as depravaoo [09:51] Not long now before the complaints about kmail/akonadi/nepomuk come pouring in :-) [09:52] On the bright side (I'm running Oneiric), you can now safely resize the konsole window! [10:10] alvin: is it good? [10:13] Depends on what you need. It is better than natty in some respects. X doesn't crash when resizing the console, the kernel doesn't panic when you're an NFS client and shut the system down. So, that's most definately better. Bugs are fixed in KDE too. The big downside is that the new kmail is not really useable. It's slow, very slow, eats up system resources. Doesn't display all IMAP folders, throws random errors, doesn't work with some [10:13] Kolab configurations and forget about marking your mails as read. [10:13] That's about what I care about of course. Your needs might be very different. I also lost Flash, but I don't care about that. [10:15] Oh, also, Phonon is more stable. No more crashing Amarok when pressing 'next' [10:52] Howdy all [10:52] hi [11:01] So when is the release? I just can't wait. [11:10] hello i was banned from #ubuntu and i don't know why [11:10] hi all. i have a set of usb phones. when i plug them to a usb slot i can see in my kmixer a usb audio option but the phones doesn't work. any idea? [11:32] It looks like there's typo in http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ . Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) > "Ku"buntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Anyone who can fix it? [11:47] jincreator: hmm [11:51] jincreator: sorted, thanks for that [11:51] Riddell: Thanks for quick fix! [12:00] hi kubuntu 11.10 is also released today ? [12:00] yes === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:10] hi boy [12:10] what's the irc channel kubuntu, italian language? [12:11] !it [12:11] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [12:20] How stable is the new kubuntu? Should I plan for an upgrade tonight or wait another month? === gusto is now known as Guest33258 [12:28] hi, is there a good client for ubuntu one which doesn't require the whole ubuntu deps? i'm currently using dropbox, but i want to give ubuntu1 a try [12:36] mika__, not sure whether the dropbox kde integration has been worked out or not , kubuntu one is ok too ...a few gtk apps and libs don't bother me much [12:37] err ubuntu one rather [12:40] BluesKaj: nope, 0 integration with dropbox and kde.. [12:40] mika__, bummer :( [12:40] yeah :( [12:41] Good morning, all. I'm looking for a simple program (preferably GUI) that will allow me to rip certain DVD titles to MP3 (or flac/ogg). I have a concert DVD that I'd like the audio for... any suggestions? [12:41] there was a dropbox for kde app called kfilebox but it was unstable , mika__ [12:43] actually i don't care so much about the kde integration, i don't use very frequently dolphin :) just the whole gtk libs eheh [12:44] waiting for 11.10 [12:44] Duolos, k9copy might do it , i"m not sure ...it keeps crashing here tho , on 11.10 [12:44] Yamauchi: it's been canceled until 2012 [12:45] don't think so [12:45] :) [12:45] since ubuntu 11.10 is already up on their site (though they're waiting to announce it) [12:45] mika__: Be nice. Some of us have weak hearts. [12:45] Tabmow, will be released today , not out yet tho [12:46] oops Yamauchi^ [12:46] np [12:47] Realmkeeper: eheh, ok ;) [12:48] * mika__ is waiting for 11.10 too ;) [12:49] Is 11.10 going to have Flash 11? [12:49] (64 bit) [12:51] Realmkeeper: yes http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flash&searchon=names&suite=oneiric§ion=all [12:52] yay! Thanks for finding it, mika__. [12:52] Realmkeeper, flash 64 bit can be downloaded from adobe ...it runs with out the pluginwrapper , but you need to remove the wrpper and the flash plugin first then place the so files in /usrlib/whateverbrowser /plugin [12:58] mika__, I'm using the 64 bit from adobe and it works well [13:09] How stable is the new kubuntu? Should I plan for an upgrade tonight or wait another month? [13:10] Depends on what you need. It is better than natty in some respects. X doesn't crash when resizing the console, the kernel doesn't panic when you're an NFS client and shut the system down. So, that's most definately better. Bugs are fixed in KDE too. The big downside is that the new kmail is not really useable. It's slow, very slow, eats up system resources. Doesn't display all IMAP [13:10] folders, throws random errors, doesn't work with some [13:10] Kolab configurations and forget about marking your mails as read. [13:10] the comments of a previous user [13:17] ubuntu officially out [13:17] * BluesKaj isn't in a work environment, kmail and kontact and akonadi for that matter are deleted or turned off here ...too bad how kmail got totally clunky after kde4 [13:18] it's out [13:18] woot [13:18] wats out [13:19] Kubuntu 11.10 [13:19] not in my repos [13:19] frontpage === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 11.10 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.10-release, upgrade with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades/Kubuntu | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines | Beta 2 released: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-1110-beta-2-released [13:21] Kubuntu 11.10 is out! === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 11.10 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.10-release, upgrade with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades/Kubuntu | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/Guidelines [13:21] indeed [13:22] it was out long tie ago [13:23] BluesKaj: Thanks, but may as well wait now for the official packaged Flash 11. [13:23] 11.10 not showing up on the download page for me, though [13:25] Realmkeeper, it's supposed to be available in the canonical partners repos , but whan i tried that 2 days ago it flash wouldn't work without the nspluginwrapper on some sites , but there wqas alink to the .so files which I unfortunately didn't save [13:26] whch do work without that damn wrapper === acer_ is now known as onizuka45 [13:49] Anyone know of a compelling reason to do a fresh install versus an upgrade? [13:49] To get rid of the cruft [13:50] fresh installs smell better? [13:50] clean configs. [13:50] :) [13:51] torrrent is 0.14 percent complete! This could take awhile === af_ is now known as Guest6815 [14:06] avoiding a kmail migration? [14:10] is this the right place to get help for todays upgrade? [14:11] upgrade of ? [14:11] 10.04 -> 10.10 [14:11] Kubuntu ofc [14:12] LTS ? [14:13] leuty, today is the 11.10 official release , hence my question [14:13] sorry, 11.04 -> 11.10, my head lags 1 year behind [14:13] try #ubuntu +1 [14:14] ok, thank you === acer_ is now known as onizuka45 [14:35] I'm not sure if this is the proper place to report this but... The release page says "...Please be aware of the known issues, as one effects upgrading." [14:35] Shouldn't that be "*affects upgrading"? [14:35] yes it should [14:36] * maco passes along to people who can do website stuff [14:36] thanks maco! [14:38] naproxeno: Riddell says its fixed [14:39] maco: yes, it is. Perfect! [14:43] download done, now I'm seeding.... [14:49] \o/ [14:49] Release day! [14:50] Daskreech: is there a new vversion of ubuntu today :0) ? [14:50] Hi guys. Anyone else trying the dist-upgrade via kpackagekit? I got news for ya, it's not working! [14:50] g0rs: Indeed there is :) [14:51] g0rs: as expected it's 11.10 release day [14:51] I just went to process the distribution upgrade after getting alerted by kpackagekit, and it started, went as far as the Getting new software channels, and crashed out with "process exited with code 1" [14:57] BarkingFish: I might have a similar issue here. Do you have more info so we can see if it is the same issue? [14:57] I'm already downloading 11.10 :0) [14:57] leuty, I'm advised it could be a crash, I've been instructed to file a bug [14:58] BarkingFish, nothing here yet either [14:58] I've got the 64 bit CD seeding, but the DVD is going to take awhile. KTorrent only shows 3 seeders.... [14:59] BarkingFish: is it something like: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::resolve generated breaks ? [14:59] leuty, no - i'm upgrading through kpackagekit and getting the error "Process exited with code 1" in a box in the middle of the screen. [14:59] However, kpackagekit is now offering me 1307 new package updates [15:01] anyone know how to get the menu to show up in Dolphin on 11.10? [15:01] * BluesKaj avoids kpackagekit , always found it buggy [15:04] BluesKaj, kpackagekit has never let me down up to now, don't see why it's starting now :) [15:05] BarkingFish: Ok, you got further than I did. I now have the oneric sources but unmet dependencies (kdevelop) [15:05] BarkingFish, I had problems with it fetching apps and holding repos that I added [15:06] well this appears to be a whole mass of busted files, and stuff it's just having conflicts with... I'm filing a bug on it anyway [15:07] clean install for me. [15:07] BarkingFish:ok, append the logs is /var/log/dist-upgrade/. Thats the first things they will ask you for. [15:08] yep, i'm sorting that now [15:10] BarkingFish, make sure you don't have any old ppas lurking in /etc/apt/sources.list.d [15:10] I am using 11.10 beta is it good to update to 11.10 full release or should i do a fresh install? [15:11] BluesKaj, I don't have. It went and got all the new stuff at the start of the upgrade [15:11] phoenix_firebrd, i'm waiting to do just that in beata to official release , but there's no updates in the repos yet [15:11] ha, I had to manually remove kdevelop. Now it runs. [15:11] BluesKaj: hey o/ [15:11] hi Peace- [15:12] BluesKaj: That means our system is fully updated? [15:12] Peace-: hi [15:12] phoenix_firebrd: hi [15:13] BluesKaj: I am having a audio related issue in beta, i am wondering if a fresh install will solve it [15:14] phoenix_firebrd, not sure ,I doubt it since I haven't seen an upgrade for 24hrs [15:14] anyone know how to get the menu to show up in Dolphin on 11.10? [15:15] phoenix_firebrd, audion related , care to elaborate ? [15:15] jbwiv: Click on the "tool" in the upper right corner. [15:16] jbwiv, that's an unusual request , why not just use the kciker in the panel [15:17] leuty, ah, thanks. Completely missed that for some reason [15:17] jbwiv: you are welcome [15:18] * BluesKaj must have misunderstood [15:18] ok guys, I've filed the bug with launchpad, we'll see what happens with it. [15:18] #873411 [15:18] heh, good luck [15:19] OK, well at this point, I'm processing all the upgrades manually, all 1307 of them [15:20] see you all later [15:20] downloading 11.10 right now, but so slow. any one else experience the same? [15:21] BluesKaj: sorry , i had a small work to finish [15:21] BluesKaj: the audio gets stuck when cpu is high and it sounds like a looping broken venyl record player [15:24] what's causing the high cpu usage , not the audio I hope [15:24] phoenix_firebrd, ^ [15:24] BluesKaj: not the audio, [15:25] BluesKaj: some other apps like an installation process [15:25] are you using pulseaudio in phonon ? [15:25] I can't get any openGL screensavers working, anyone help? [15:26] BluesKaj: i tried increasing the cpu priority of pulseaudio, no good [15:26] phoenix_firebrd: high cpu usage? on 11.10? [15:26] Peace-: not that kind of problem [15:27] Peace-: my cpu usage usually increases around 80% during a installation of cpu intensive process [15:28] Peace-: my cpu usage usually increases around 80% during a installation *or* cpu intensive process [15:28] phoenix_firebrd: mmm ALT F2 [15:28] type : akonadi [15:28] first application , disable it [15:29] Peace-: the service is not running [15:29] 11.10 switches back to Openoffice? [15:29] Peace-: I have already disabled strigi and nepomuk [15:30] Peace-: even disabled some unwanted services [15:30] phoenix_firebrd: is this one ? http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/13/plasma-desktopLG1302.jpg [15:30] phoenix_firebrd, which player do you use ? [15:30] BluesKaj: vlc [15:31] BluesKaj: but ried with athers like dragon player, amarok same thing happens [15:31] Peace-: ya the same [15:31] phoenix_firebrd: mm ok nvdia? [15:31] nice, update screen is much better now [15:31] Peace-: he he ya [15:31] phoenix_firebrd: ok... so it could be the driver ... [15:31] * OerHeks succesfully upgraded to 11.10 [15:32] hmm, vlc is a really good player , and even amarok is getting better ...what soundcard ? [15:32] phoenix_firebrd: disabled the desktop effect? [15:32] * dthacker gives OerHeks a high five [15:32] Peace-: The i have already done that, what the nvidia driver is related to audio problem? [15:32] * OerHeks h5 [15:33] phoenix_firebrd: no, you said you had problem with cpu usage [15:33] Peace-: no thats not the issue [15:34] Peace-: the problem is the audio gets stuck in a lopp untill the cpu usage goes down , this didnt happen in 11.04 or the previous ones [15:34] mmm [15:35] phoenix_firebrd: ok let's test this [15:35] sudo apt-get install phonon-backend-vlc [15:35] Peace-: ok, wait , gstreamer issue? [15:35] Peace-: i will the backend now [15:37] phoenix_firebrd: then go on systemsettings , [15:37] =>multimedia =>http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/13/plasma-desktopvc1302.jpg [15:38] Peace-: finished replacing the backend [15:38] you can keep the gstreamfreakstuff [15:38] Peace-: any player you recommend [15:38] just set the vlc backedn on that screenshot [15:39] phoenix_firebrd: vlc [15:39] Peace-: ok [15:39] phoenix_firebrd, make it the default in phonon, but i don't think it will make a diff [15:39] it could [15:39] :D [15:39] BluesKaj: done, testing [15:40] pulseaudio and vlc don't worl=k weel together IME [15:40] don't work well [15:40] vlc backend that is [15:41] BluesKaj: here it works fine [15:41] Peace-: no difference [15:41] but :) we know that it doesn't mean anything [15:41] Peace-, how about pulseaudio , Peace- , do you use it ? [15:42] Peace-: what about irq priority? [15:42] ok [15:42] BluesKaj: yes [15:42] phoenix_firebrd: mmm [15:42] phoenix_firebrd: we could try to remove pulse btw [15:42] Peace-: i am using a creative soundblaster pci card [15:43] if pulse is not the problem i guess it's an hardware problem [15:43] or maybe better... an alsa problem [15:43] Peace-: driver? [15:43] ok Peace- , I'm forced to use PA as well for web content audio , alsa doesn't work with flash audio on websites here for some reason [15:43] BluesKaj: thats a big issue [15:44] BluesKaj: i have tried different things and ended up wasting my time [15:44] BluesKaj: really ? wtf here is working with flash it doesn't make me crazy like before , have you installed veromix? [15:45] my onboard audio card works without PA on everything , but my new m-audio card doesn't do flash audio on websites without PA :( [15:46] i borked up the display on my computer [15:46] BluesKaj: creative cards also sucks [15:46] but i could ssh from my phone and fix it, yay! === mix is now known as Guest10133 [15:47] BluesKaj: so you are saying that you have 2 audio cards 1 works fine with flash and pulse the other no ? [15:47] Peace-: is there a way to increase the irq priority ? [15:47] Peace-, , I don't think it's the card so much as the alsa driver [15:48] phoenix_firebrd: sorry :( i dunno that stuff [15:48] BluesKaj: mm bad story then [15:48] Peace-: ok, you have no problem with the audio right? [15:49] yep [15:49] BluesKaj: btw install plasma-widget-veromix [15:49] try if you have time and you want try to test better your problem [15:49] Peace- , what I mean is both cards work with PA on everything including web audio , but the onboard nvidia sound card doesn't need PA to work [15:49] try it [15:50] ya ya got it [15:50] BluesKaj: it should be alsa <=>Pa connection [15:51] who knows [15:51] what's veromix ? [15:51] BluesKaj: a mixer for PA [15:51] BluesKaj: it's like kmix but for PA its not so bad.. [15:52] Peace-: I will check if the nvidia driver is causing this issue. [15:52] phoenix_firebrd: mah i don't think so [15:52] don't ned a mixer for PA , ,,, I use it for it's digital spdif passthru properties , which alsa doesn't provide for website audio content [15:52] :) [15:52] ok [15:53] Peace-: ok [15:53] Are the wireless issues with 11.10 a little better than 11.04? Trying to get wireless to work correctly in 11.04 has been a bit of a nightmare (and I never solved it). [15:54] phoenix_firebrd: you could test this too sudo alsa force-reload === vsrao_ is now known as vsrao [15:54] I have my onboard soundcard blacklisted , so it doesn't show up in phonon and muck up the works [15:54] Tweev: I think that's probably a "try it and see" question [15:54] Hi. Would you guys recommend a fresh re-installation to 11.10 or upgrade? [15:55] vsrao: I almost always do a fresh install. YMMV [15:55] Peace-: What does it resets alsa settings? [15:55] dthacker: Fair enough. At this point I just need a system that works. I would have gone to 10.04 if making a 10.04 LTS USB from 11.04 wasn't so buggy [15:55] dthacker: Okay. [15:55] phoenix_firebrd: reboot the audio drivers... [15:55] only the audio drivers [15:55] Peace-: ok [15:56] if you see the cpu usage go down it means it's an alsa problem [15:56] Is there a synaptic equivalent to save a list of installed packages to re-install on the fresh installation? [15:56] Peace-: do i have to restart pulseaudio? [15:56] vsrao: of course [15:57] Peace-: What is it? [15:57] phoenix_firebrd: try that command ... i have written before [15:57] vsrao: one moment [15:57] Peace-: thats done [16:00] phoenix_firebrd: so... now the cpu usage? [16:00] vsrao: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/13/plasma-desktopDi1302.jpg [16:00] vsrao, one thing to remember a fresh install will require resetting everything to your tastes , unless of course you have a /home partition , then part of the work is already saved in the config files [16:00] Peace-: testing [16:00] BluesKaj: Yes, I have a separate /home partition configured. [16:00] ok vsrao , cool :) [16:00] BluesKaj: All I need is a KDE equivalent synaptic sort of package list saver kinda thing. [16:01] BluesKaj: I also have a seperate /home. Do you have a link to a walk though to do a fresh install when you have a seperate /home? Do I just reformat the /,swap & boot and leave /home alone? [16:01] vsrao, why not just use synaptic ...I do [16:01] Peace-: problem is still there [16:01] just reformat the / [16:01] phoenix_firebrd: even when you are restarting alsa? [16:01] BluesKaj: I guess. I do too, always. I thought Muon/KPackManager or K* would have one. [16:02] Tweev, ^ [16:02] Peace-: ya [16:02] i mean in the while you are restaring the cpu is still high [16:02] BluesKaj: awesome thanks! [16:03] BluesKaj: I wonder why the seperate /home isn't default. It's seems to be a smarter approach [16:03] muon showed promise at first but now I'm not happy with it ...buggy on my setup [16:03] phoenix_firebrd: mmm so ... it could be an irq problem but i am not used to manage that kind of problem [16:03] Peace-: After the restart when the cpu is high the audio has the same problem [16:03] i have no ideas [16:03] Tweev, it is IMO but , too many partitoninig options scares ppl away [16:04] BluesKaj: I can understand that, I felt the same way until i did it 5 times [16:04] BluesKaj: +1 [16:04] for muon [16:04] During the installation, a lot of downloads happen regarding "language packs". Anyway to avoid that part of download? [16:04] it doesn't work well here [16:04] Tweev, :) [16:04] Peace-: where can i see a driver change in a kernel , do you think a new creative audio driver was put in in 3.0.x ? [16:05] OK, my bootable 11.10 USB is done - I am off to do my fresh 11.10 install - wish me luck! ( please work out of the box!!!) [16:06] Peace-, I think the devs "dropped the ball" on muon ,,, I even had dependency conflicts with it [16:07] BluesKaj: muon works well [16:08] * BluesKaj sticks with synaptic [16:08] BluesKaj: do you preview before removing packages? [16:09] I just use synaptic mostly as a reference for available packafges , I usually use apt in the cli to install and remove stuff [16:09] BluesKaj: ok [16:11] wow, still nothing new in the repos ...wonder what's going on [16:28] During the installation, a lot of downloads happen regarding "language packs". Anyway to avoid that part of download? [16:35] Peace-: i think i solved my audio problem [16:36] phoenix_firebrd: solution ? [16:36] Peace-: i added audio to user privileges [16:37] phoenix_firebrd: omg [16:37] hahahaha [16:37] Peace-: what [16:37] funny :) [16:37] i didn't think to that [16:37] Peace-: is that a solution ? [16:38] Peace-: what i did was right or wrong? [16:38] bah [16:39] Peace-: what? [16:39] it's not bad that for sure [16:39] and if it worked is a solution [16:39] Peace-: he he [16:39] Peace-: thanks for the support buddy [16:40] Just upgraded to Kubuntu 11.10, Internet connection no longer works and mouse refuses to work as well. I expected the special button to not work because I manually installed open source drivers for my Roccat Kova+ mouse, but no mouse input is taken at all anymore. [16:40] Peace-:one last question [16:41] Peace-: how can i update from beta to a full release? [16:42] phoenix_firebrd: `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` or the normal upgrades(muon/kpackagekit) should do that [16:42] phoenix_firebrd: i guess it's thsi : sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [16:43] Peace-: does that remove the backports entry in the sources list? [16:43] TheLastProject: how do you connect to the internet? does the keyboard at least still work? [16:43] The keyboard still works, I use a wired internet connection. Even though Windows 7 also displays the connection as non-functioning at the moment I can still use it, as you can see. [16:44] On Kubuntu 11.10, however, I can't connect at all. [16:44] phoenix_firebrd: well you need to set only normal repository... [16:44] !repository [16:44] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [16:44] (Oops, guess I should've added "yofel: " at the beginning of my sentence? >_<) [16:47] TheLastProject: hm, not sure about that then, but you could go to a TTY with ctrl-alt-f2 from the login screen, and look at the output of dmesg (long!) and at /var/log/Xorg.0.log if there's any error about the mouse [16:48] yofel: The mouse driver I installed was originally meant for another Linux kernel than 3.0, I guess I should try grabbing the appropriate version then? (That is, if I get my Internet connection up and running again) [16:49] how did you install the driver? If you installed it by hand then you'll have to install it for the new kernel as well [16:49] I'm back: seems like the 11.10 install went fine - although it sure stalled on 86% and 90% - I thought it was going to crap out [16:50] Tweev: let me guess during downloading of language packs? [16:50] phoenix- likely, I wasn't looking at the details. [16:51] Tweev: that problem was already reported as a bug [16:51] yofel: I installed it manually, compiled the source code and added it to the Xorg.conf file and so on. There was no automatic installation for it available as it was an unofficial open source driver. So I guess that is to blame for the complete lack of mouse support. Still wonder how I can fix my connection, perhaps it will decide to fix itself again or so... Hopefully =/ [16:52] yofel: At least, thanks for the help! [16:52] TheLastProject: is that wired 56k? or dsl + modem? or network + router? [16:52] phoenix_firebrd: That's a bug? Yeesh, it just gave me a chance to do some extra dishes and laundry - my wireless crapping out cost me DAYS - THAT'S a bug! (for 11.o4). Now I must see if my wireless issues seem to be fixed [16:53] yofel: I think it would be dsl + modem + router? I'm not really familiar with what DSL or so exactly is. It is a constant connection at an average speed for this country. Perhaps I can try taking the power off it for 30 seconds and reconnecting =/ [16:53] Tweev: but the bug should be fixed by now [16:54] TheLastProject: hm, that would mean you should just need to connect to the router over LAN, check if at least the network device shows up when you type 'ifconfig' [16:55] yofel: Wrote it down, will try that when I reboot back into Kubuntu. Thank you! [16:56] anyone else getting a GPG error for archive.canonical.com? [16:56] jmichaelx: me [16:59] also, have others run into openoffice-related errors upon upgrading to oneiric? === GirlyGIrl is now known as Alysha [17:01] can i cancel kubuntu upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10? [17:01] it take too much time [17:02]