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czzlaunch party time? :)02:09
KM0201czz: i dont think lubuntu 11.10 will be out for at least a few days.. maybe i'm wrong, ive not even saw a release candidate posted02:18
czzKM0201, It should be out tomorrow....02:19
Unit193Should be out the 13th at some point02:19
Unit193If you want a party, #ubuntu-release-party02:20
KM0201oh i thought phillw said the other day it would probably be like the 15th or so..02:20
KM0201it's not uncommon for xubuntu to be a few days late, so i just figured lubuntu would run the same course02:20
Unit193It's all on the Ubuntu build system though02:20
czzAny devs in here? :)02:21
Unit193He's been idle for a few days02:22
mannishwill Lubuntu also be released today? or will it take more days?06:28
bioterroroctober 13th06:31
mannishtoday :)06:31
jonohey all09:13
jonois there any core devs here?09:13
jonowe need someone to sign off on the release ISO for 11.1009:13
Unit193Only one I know has a few days idle time09:14
karol_you can write on launchpad09:14
bioterrorgilir usually comes when it's ~20:00 his local time09:17
Unit193About 13 here :P09:19
rghvdberghi10:46
rghvdbergjust trying out lubuntu (11.10)10:47
rghvdbergquestion: how-to enable ALT-F2 -> 'Run' dialog ?10:48
ahmaWhen comes the official 11.10?11:10
Unit193Sometime today (the 13th)11:11
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IAmNotThatGuywb hyperair12:18
* hyperair meows12:18
IAmNotThatGuySo, Whats up in Malaysia for the release?12:18
IAmNotThatGuyhyperair: also you saw pcman recently? ?12:19
hyperairIAmNotThatGuy: nah, i didn't.12:19
hyperairIAmNotThatGuy: and i'm in singapore.12:19
hyperairIAmNotThatGuy: my birthday is upcoming, so i'll be heading back home to malaysia though12:19
* IAmNotThatGuy has some memory loss /ignore that12:19
hyperairlol12:20
IAmNotThatGuyI am planning to work on lxde environment in a month. My course for the development is kinda over12:21
IAmNotThatGuyhyperair: date?12:22
hyperairIAmNotThatGuy: 15th12:22
IAmNotThatGuyGreat12:24
IAmNotThatGuyhyperair: you are working on Banshee related bugs these days?12:27
hyperairIAmNotThatGuy: yes and no.12:28
* IAmNotThatGuy is confused now12:28
hyperairlol12:29
XLubuntuhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release is this official, the "Beta" has been removed12:31
JohnDoe_71RusXLubuntu: http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/#ubuntu this say 5 hours12:34
IAmNotThatGuyXLubuntu: The links to which they are pointing might be wrong. It will always be better to downlaod once the announcement is made.12:34
IAmNotThatGuyI mean the download repos12:34
XLubuntulol, i've been waiting for whole long day !!!!:(12:34
IAmNotThatGuyPlease wait until we get an official announcement =)12:35
XLubuntuits already night here :)12:35
ahmaLubuntu.net seems to be down?12:36
IAmNotThatGuyXLubuntu: I Understand. But patience will always be a good option12:37
mark76Where does PCManFM store its desktop preferences?12:37
ahmaOr is it just my weak 384kb mobile internet?12:37
mark76Found em12:40
nicocool84lubuntu.net has been down for a while, hasn't it ?12:54
XLubuntunicocool84: lubuntu.net is working here :|12:58
nicocool84xlubuntu: oh you're right, it just is extremely slow13:01
KM0201allt he *buntus are gonna be slow the next few days, w/ heavy, heavy traffic looking for the new ISO's.13:11
KM0201happens every release13:12
bioterroruse the torment13:12
KM0201yup.13:12
bioterrorunless it's full of hit n run type of users13:12
KM0201i usually try to seed it for about 4-5 days.13:13
bioterrorI try to see above ratio of 50 :D13:13
bioterrorseed13:14
KM0201before i go to bed, i set the torrent to seed at full speed, then if i'm on the PC, i seed around 10-15k, otherwise, it just thrashes my connection13:14
bioterrorI dont have any better use for the bw13:15
bioterrorit can be throttled to use 400 out of 500kb/s13:15
bioterrorand ssh wont be laggy13:15
silverlightninghi13:17
KM0201true13:17
dr-leehi13:22
tzhuanghey guys13:31
tzhuangis 11.10 out yet?13:31
silverlightningyes I think it should be out today13:33
lxkuits already out for 30 minutes :D13:35
dr-leethe questions is: is lubuntu 11.10 allready out ;)13:36
silverlightningI am in mondays version of lubuntu13:36
silverlightningperhaps it was tuesdays13:36
lxkuyes, it is out13:36
silverlightningI suspect bugs to be found still, but updates usually fixes it13:37
tzhuangah its out!13:42
tzhuangwhere can i get it = =13:42
tzhuanggoogle isn't helping me =(13:42
amjjawadget lubuntu isn't updated yet13:45
dr-leelubuntu 11.10 distribution release is out ?13:45
amjjawadi'm not sure :(13:45
tzhuanghmmm lxku said it's been out for 30 minutes13:45
tzhuangbut he left D:13:46
tzhuangqq13:46
tzhuanganyone else here have a clue?13:46
amjjawadUbuntu is out13:46
dr-leei wasnt sure he was talking about lubuntu....thought he was talking about ubuntu13:46
amjjawadcheck their website13:46
dr-leei know...thanks13:46
amjjawadLubuntu still I guess13:46
amjjawadI'm refreshing the pages every few mins :D13:46
amjjawadPlease guys ... if you download Lubuntu, use torrent and keep seeding13:46
amjjawad:)13:46
dr-leei will do it tonight13:47
amjjawadGOOD :D13:47
dr-leeor i will get it iwth unetbootin usb install13:47
amjjawadJulien didn't make the annoucement yet13:47
amjjawadI prefer torrent13:47
dr-leei am not using ptopical discs anymore13:47
dr-leei like torrent for linux iso downloads too13:48
amjjawadUSB is faster13:48
amjjawadand I came to know that when booting from USB, the problem with the live session is not there13:48
dr-leei ve heardt that torrent download is secure becauase there is a corrupted file check with torrent13:48
amjjawadI mean when u hit try lubuntu, it works ONLY from LiveUSB13:48
dr-leeso no further checksum checking needed13:48
dr-leeyou cant burn it ?13:49
amjjawadYes, I heard that too. I mean read it. However, checking md5sum shouldn't take more than 1min13:49
amjjawadLiveUSB = use UNetbootin :)13:49
dr-leeyeah13:49
amjjawadI can't wait :D13:50
dr-leebut checkin mD5 is only a good idea when you do veryfaying the ckescum file first13:50
amjjawadbetter safe than sorry13:50
dr-leeyou need to ferify the authenciuty of the checksum file13:50
dr-leeyeah13:50
amjjawadI always advise to check it first13:50
silverlightningalways nice to have it verified13:50
dr-leethere was an attack on kernel.org !!!13:51
amjjawadyes, always nice indeed13:51
dr-leeyou ve heardt about that ?13:51
amjjawadreally? from who?13:51
dr-leei guess from cia13:51
amjjawadwhat?13:51
silverlightningif it doesn't come out right, you at least have an inkling about weird troubles13:51
amjjawadwhy is that?13:51
dr-leeyes13:51
dr-leethey hacked kernel.org13:51
dr-leebut no problomo13:51
dr-leethanks to git everything is decentralized :)13:52
amjjawadidk really13:52
dr-leefucking lamers -  fuck you all ;)13:52
dr-leeeven i am on linux i am very concerned about security13:53
amjjawadlet's keep the f word out :)13:53
dr-leesorry13:53
amjjawadit's ok13:53
amjjawadwell, why to worry?13:53
dr-leebut you are right13:53
dr-leedont worry13:53
amjjawadif u know what u r doing, don't be worry13:53
amjjawadI mean download from terminal or synaptic13:53
amjjawaddon't go to weird websites, etc13:53
dr-leeas i said, thanks git everything is so decentralized that no cia and no other secret service can attack the linux and opensource world13:53
amjjawadhahahahaha13:54
dr-lee;)13:54
amjjawadif they want to attack, they will ;)13:54
amjjawadif u r in the safe side, don't worry13:54
dr-leethen they have to change all downloaded git repros13:54
dr-leemany thousands to millions git pulls13:55
dr-leeand then they have to hack it13:55
amjjawadCOME ON Julien ... can't wait :D13:55
dr-leehehehe13:55
amjjawaddon't worry about hacking :D13:55
dr-leei am allways a lil paranoid13:55
amjjawadhahahahah13:55
amjjawadnot more than me ;)13:55
amjjawadbut I don't pay attention to these stuff13:55
dr-leelike any other serious linux guy ;)13:55
amjjawadLike any other serious "windows" guy :P13:56
dr-leeno, the windows guys arent concerned13:56
dr-leelike sony user lol13:56
amjjawadhahahaha13:56
dr-leesony was attacked yesterday again hahahaha13:56
amjjawadops13:56
dr-leeyep13:56
amjjawadwell, I'm a poor guy with two old PCs :P13:57
dr-leei am using old pcs too13:57
amjjawadhow old?13:57
dr-leeq9950 ....intel quad 4 x 3 ghz and 12 mb cache...maybe 4 years old13:57
dr-leeand a 4 years old dual core intel laptop13:58
amjjawadI'm having P4 with 512RAM and 2G RAM the othre one13:58
amjjawadmine r 6 years I guess13:58
dr-leeno problem.....13:58
dr-lee:)13:58
amjjawadbut really who cares? with Linux, I find it fast :D13:58
amjjawadwe have a loptop here, HP core i5 with Win713:59
amjjawadIT IS SO SLOW ... :/13:59
ahmaNewest lubuntu not out yet?13:59
amjjawadIf it's mine, I would format and install Linux13:59
amjjawadahma, let me check :)13:59
dr-lee;)13:59
dr-leehave to clean my rooms14:00
dr-leec u in 2 hours ;)14:00
amjjawadok14:01
amjjawadcya14:01
ahmaIm now loading ubuntu via torrent, cant find lubuntu yet14:01
amjjawadyep, I guess it's not there yet14:02
ahmaIm going to do clean install from cd to newer and to old laptop so I download both14:03
amjjawadjust make sure to use torrent as much as u can14:03
amjjawadkeep seeding :D14:03
amjjawadlooks like the website is down or am I the only one?14:05
ahmaI kinda hit and run because I do a clean install to that old laptop wich is downloading too14:06
czzlubuntu site is crawling14:18
amjjawadit's down I guess14:18
amjjawadI'm checking now again14:18
silverlightninganyone in the oneric?14:19
silverlightningI was suspecting a few updates yesterday and last night14:19
silverlightningI have none in update manager?14:20
czznot seeing 11.10 on the site14:20
silverlightningshould I worry about it?14:20
silverlightningit should be launched14:20
czzThey give a date, but never a time. :)14:21
silverlightningI have the isobuild from a few days ago14:21
silverlightninglike moday or tuesday14:21
silverlightningtrue14:21
silverlightningI am very happy with 11.1014:22
ahmaUbuntu is out, lubuntu not yet14:22
silverlightningit has all the tiny stuff I missed in 04 lol14:22
silverlightningI see14:22
silverlightningI hope the last daily builds will update nicely14:23
silverlightningI haven't had it confirmed by the experts yet14:23
silverlightningeven on newer systems lubuntu has a few advantages14:25
silverlightningdepending on hardware14:25
amjjawadI'm out too ... CYA all :)14:29
czzi should download ubuntu via torrent to help seed :_14:29
czzmy new connection can def. handle it14:29
wxlwow looks like i misssed the visit from the tin foil hat club15:31
czz?15:33
wxl13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> there was an attack on kernel.org !!!15:34
wxl13:Oct:11|06:51 < amjjawad:#lubuntu> yes, always nice indeed15:34
wxl13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> you ve heardt about that ?15:34
wxl13:Oct:11|06:51 < amjjawad:#lubuntu> really? from who?15:34
wxl13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> i guess from cia15:34
wxlthe man is after our kernels.15:35
dr-leehehehe15:35
wxl:)15:35
dr-leeits not a secret15:35
dr-leesome one tried to hack kernel.org15:35
wxlTHAT i believe15:35
dr-leeand the only institution that would do such thing is the cia15:35
dr-leeor another secret service15:36
dr-leelook, the united states of america do have access to all closed soft and hardware15:36
dr-leethat was invented or produced in the united states15:36
dr-leethis is us law15:36
dr-leethe only systems they dont have access to is linux based systems15:37
dr-leeso, it is quite important for the united states to have military, politcal, finacial and technical control - thats the only way they think they can defend their freedom15:38
dr-leeso, they had to hack the linux kernel, which they couldnt because its not stored or controlled by one central instance15:39
dr-leei am quite stupid, but i really cant imagine why any one else would try to hack the linux kernel15:40
dr-lee@wxl yes, i really would like to wrap myself in gold foil and wear a gold foil hat....just to get some protection against eletronic waves (electro smog) and radiation from space (neutrinos)15:42
meetingologydr-lee: Error: "wxl" is not a valid command.15:42
dr-leehehehe15:43
dr-leei am quite astonished that wxl knew i would like to weak tin foil hats hehehehe15:43
dr-leewear15:43
wxllubuntu.net is down?16:40
IAmNotThatGuywxl, slow. Yes16:40
IAmNotThatGuyphillw, Ping Gilir16:41
wxlmaybe there's somewhere else i can fnid a hq lubuntu logo, IAmNotThatGuy ?16:41
KM0201google images?16:42
wxlbah ok16:42
wxlpulls up a bunch of shitty ubuntu crap16:43
KM0201hmm16:43
wxlat least if i look for large16:43
IAmNotThatGuyYou wont be finding the best. I forgot the developer's name16:43
IAmNotThatGuyLemme find him16:43
wxllargest i find is 300x300 :/16:45
wxli wanna lubuntu sticker16:55
KM0201hmm16:55
wxllike http://www.unixstickers.com/kubuntu_linux_os_sticker16:56
wxloh there is one now16:56
KM0201hmm, i don't know if there's Lubuntu ones available yet16:56
wxlnevermind :D16:56
KM0201link?16:56
wxlhttp://www.unixstickers.com/lubuntu_linux_sticker?filter_name=lubuntu16:57
wxlit's on a mac, too!16:57
KM0201lol16:57
wxli'm intent on making an lubuntu-on-apple sticker16:57
KM0201I've been thinking of putting one of these on my NAS...  http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/5b43/16:59
KM0201i like that "Linux Inside" one16:59
wxlso we does lubuntu use plymouth instead of lxdm for a session manager? make it consistent with ubuntu?16:59
wxlheh, yep17:00
bioterrorwhat?17:00
bioterrorplymouth = plymouth, LXDM = desktop manager17:00
wxloops17:00
wxlsorry autopilot there17:00
wxllxsession17:00
KM0201has the lubuntu 11.10 final ISO been uploaded yet?17:06
bioterrorhttp://fi.releases.ubuntu.com/ doesnt look good17:10
czzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/11.1017:11
bioterrorcdimage.ubuntu.com is really jammed17:11
bioterrorI bet Lonestar has something to do with that17:12
KM0201i'm trying to find a Lubuntu image17:12
KM0201none of those links have lubuntu17:12
KM0201oh, i found it now.17:14
KM0201dang, no peers on the i386 torrent17:16
KutakizukariI just upgraded from lubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 and now the WIFI BCM4318 to connect to the internet is not working. I only have a Verizon Hotspot to connect to the internet with but I have Win7 that can get files. How do I get the Wifi working again on Compaq presario V2000?17:29
KM02014318... did that use B43 or STA? (i'm trying to look now, but.. ubuntu's sites are crawling)17:30
KutakizukariB4317:30
KM0201http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o17:30
KM0201download that17:30
KM0201http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz217:31
KM0201and that17:31
KM0201after you download them, put them in your home folder on Ubuntu (i'm assuming you're on 7 right now.17:31
KM0201once those files are in your home folder17:32
KM0201run these 3 commands in a terminal individually....17:32
KM0201tar xfvj broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz217:32
KM0201sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o17:32
KM0201sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o17:32
KM0201(might be easiest to copy those to a text file, as you're bound to screw up if yout ry typing them)17:32
KM0201once that is done... go to additional drivers under menu/system tools, and activate the b43 driver, then restart17:33
KM0201and you should have wireless17:33
KutakizukariKM0201: Will try, thank you for the help!17:34
KM0201no problem.... couple key things.17:34
KM02011... make sure those two files that you downloaded17:34
KM0201are in your home folder (unless you know how to CD w/ the terminal, etc.. i wrote that lie you were  a newb)17:35
KM0201it's pretty easy to do though17:35
czzdling 11.10 :)17:42
czzNeed to backup before17:42
KutakizukariKM0201: And we have WIFI, again thank you for the help!17:54
KutakizukariLubuntu Rules!!!! lol17:55
KM0201Kutakizukari: no problem17:55
JohnDoe_71Rusczz: wait some weeks :)17:55
KM0201i love lubuntu17:56
KutakizukariKM0201: Yeah running it on a Compaq Presario V2000, much faster than any other OS I have tried on it.17:58
KM0201yeah, on something that old, i imagine so.17:58
gilirif people have difficulties to download the ISOs, there is a mirror available in France : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/11.10/18:05
bioterrorgilir, congratulations for a few years hard work ;)18:13
bioterrorgilir, now it really happened18:13
KM0201a few years huh?18:22
KM0201didn't think lubuntu had been around quite that long18:23
gilirbioterror, it's a success for everyone in the team :)18:27
KM0201gilir: were yout he one who started lubuntu?.. if so, out of curiosity, what prompted you to do it?18:29
gilirKM0201, not started, but I was involved early18:31
gilirKM0201, and my main goal was to have an OS for my eeePC 701 :)18:32
KM0201i see18:32
jorgechpHi, is lubuntu 11.10 relased yet?18:35
KM0201yes18:35
KM0201the ubuntu sites are just really really slow right now due to traffic18:35
KM0201use the torrents18:35
Unit193And seed for others18:36
KM0201http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent    --- that's the 32bit torrent if you want it18:36
KM0201well yeah, that should go w/o saying18:36
jorgechpUnit193:  of course ;)18:36
jorgechpKM0201: ok, thanks18:36
adam61hi, wondering if anyone knows why i can't get sound from my browsers.. thanks18:49
adam61no sound from either chrome or firefox.. mp3s work fine18:50
bioterrorcan you get sound from media player for example?18:50
adam61hi bioterror, yes that's fine, it's just my browsers18:50
bioterrorI really really cannot figure it out18:51
adam61that's ok, thanks anyways18:51
czzadam61, what browser?18:51
adam61hi czz, firefox and chrome18:51
adam61neither has any sound18:51
czzadam61, You have the latest flash installed?18:52
KM0201sudo service vsftpd stop18:52
adam61yes, i have tried installing every version of flash i could find18:52
KM0201lol, woops18:52
czzadam61, What version do you have installed now?18:52
haemogoblinevening18:53
haemogoblinKM0201: Hows it going mate18:53
KM0201haemogoblin: just about done upgrading my server to 11.1018:53
adam61czz, i haven't tried anything for a few months now, can't remember where to go to check that18:53
KM0201i'll probably do my desktop tonight18:53
haemogoblinCool18:53
KM0201well, i didn't really upgrade, i clean installed18:54
haemogoblinMy new fan arrived today, just installed it and the machine is SOO much quieter18:54
KM0201but.. its just about done18:54
haemogoblinBefore it was headache inducing :P18:54
czzadam61, http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html18:55
czzscroll to the bottom and in the gray box you'll see your version installed.18:55
adam61k thanks18:55
bioterroradam61, does your browsers play mp3's for example?18:56
bioterroror is it just flash?18:56
adam61no there's no sound at all from the browsers18:56
bioterrorthat's just really weird :)18:56
KM0201hmm do you have pavucontrol installed?18:56
KM0201if so.. start a nice, long youtube video, and open pavucontrol, and see if by chance your browsers volume si all the way down18:57
adam61czz, this is the version it says i have 11,0,1,15218:57
adam61bioterror, ya it's frustrating being without sound for months lol18:57
czzhave you tried uninstalling and reinstalling?18:58
adam61czz, ya i tried that soo many times, with all my flash installers and also browsers, i tried chomium, everything18:59
adam61i gave up and haven't tried anything now for about four months18:59
adam61i'm pretty much a novice with linux though19:00
adam61is there a way to set your sound mixer to play certain applications and not others? how would i locate this19:01
czzKM0201, Anyone on that torrent?19:01
KM0201not at the moment, i'm upgrading my server, soon as i get it up,i'll start seeding again19:02
adam61czz, do u know if i'm on the best channel to ask about this? is there a better one, like should i try #ubuntu, or a beginner one?19:03
czzadam61, try #ubuntu19:03
adam61ok thanks i'll give it a try19:03
KM0201it sounds like a settings issue somewhere, because sound is working other thant he browsers19:04
KM0201thats why i suggested pavucontrol19:04
bioterroradam61, everything is in alsamixer maxed out and unmuted?19:04
haemogoblinmy update manager is telling me ubuntu 11.10 is availible..19:08
haemogoblinbut i'm using lubuntu19:08
haemogoblin:/19:08
KM0201well, it always does that i think19:08
haemogoblinWill it tell me when there is a lubuntu update?19:08
KM0201honestly, i dunno19:09
haemogoblinlol19:09
KM0201i don't ever upgrade, always clean install19:09
KM0201lol19:09
haemogoblinthats just ODD19:09
KM0201eh, i got screwed by an MS upgrade a long, long, long time ago.19:09
haemogoblininstall Lubuntu but update to ubuntu!19:09
KM0201since then, i just always clean install an OS (even though ubuntu will probably be upgraded just fine)19:10
KM0201well, no its really not odd, because lubuntu, uses ubuntu repositories19:10
KM0201, etc.19:10
KM0201so it sees an upgrade now.19:10
bkerensasomeone should show me some screenshots of lubuntu 11.10 when they get a chance19:10
bkerensaI wanna see it19:10
bkerensa:D19:10
adam61bioterror, sorry didn't see your post till now; everything in alsamixer is unmuted and maxed except the mic.19:10
haemogoblinYes but if i did the upgrade19:10
haemogoblinwould i be booting in to ubuntu or lubuntu after the upgrade?19:11
haemogoblingot me a bit confuzzled19:11
adam61KM0201, what is pavucontrol? should i do sudo service vsftpd stop?19:11
KM0201adam61: no, that was an accident on my part (vsftpd)... i should have been typing in a shell for my server19:12
Kurdistancongrats the lubuntu team for there release.19:12
KM0201pavucontrol, is a volume adjuster for pulse audio... i've generally found when i'm having weird sound behaviors, i can track it down using it.19:12
adam61oh ok haa19:12
Kurdistanpavucontrol is for controlling pulseuadio19:13
KM0201right19:13
adam61pulseaudio isn't in Lubuntu though is it? i thought they did away with that19:13
KM0201(i'm of course assuming he has pulse audio installed)19:13
KM0201adam61: i always install it.19:13
haemogoblini did notice in lubuntu there's no real audio control panel19:13
KurdistanI am pulseaudio fan also.19:13
KM0201not totally necessary of course, but.. my laptop always acts weird using alsa.. once i install/configure pulse audio, it works flawlessly19:14
Kurdistanif you ever use external mic with only alsa, without pulseaudio it is difficult to get it work.19:14
adam61i had big problems with conflicts between pulseaudio and my tascam interface, so that's a major reason i'm using Lubuntu, is because it's default doesn't use pulseaudio, or so i understand it19:14
KM0201Kurdistan: yup19:14
adam61ya i need alsa19:14
KurdistanKM0201: remember that pulseaudio is like frontend for alsa19:14
KM0201eh.. .i'm not so sure about that, but.. ok.19:15
KM0201hmm19:16
KM0201issue 1 w/ server..lol19:16
KM0201well, hold on, might have been a repository issue.19:16
KM0201hmm, firefly isn't in ubuntu server edition19:18
adam61anyone have any ideas about why i can't get sound from my browsers?19:35
Kurdistanadam61: you have pcm disabled19:35
silverlightningwhat kind of skype should  I get19:35
silverlightning?19:35
Kurdistanor on zero19:35
Kurdistanadam61: open terminal. copy/paste: alsamixer19:36
Kurdistanyou will see pcm19:36
Kurdistanput it on the highest19:36
adam61Kurdistan, hi thanks, i'll try that19:36
KM0201who on earth renamed mt-daapd   to forked-daapd   lol19:37
silverlightningis skype still used?19:37
Kurdistanadam61: you can install gnome alsa mixer.19:37
Kurdistanit is gui for alsamixer19:37
Kurdistaneasier19:37
silverlightningI used to have this tiny app for skype19:37
KM0201silverlightning: why wouldn't it be?19:37
Kurdistansilverlightning: yeah skype works.19:37
silverlightningall I find in package manager is a pidgin plugin, that requires skype app to run19:38
adam61Kurdistan, it says pcm was at 100 already19:39
haemogoblinHey guys, what package to i need to install to get java working?19:39
Kurdistansilverlightning: only install skype.19:39
Kurdistanadam61 still does not work?19:39
silverlightninghaemogoblin: I think it comes with the two restricted packages in manager19:39
Kurdistanis it flash that do not work?19:39
adam61it was already set at 100, so i didn't change anything and it still doesn't work19:39
silverlightningKurdistan: you did it from the Skype homepage+19:39
Kurdistanadam61: do you have hdmi?19:39
haemogoblindo you happen to know the name of them?19:39
Kurdistansilverlightning: I do not use lubuntu/ubuntu.19:40
Kurdistanbut there should be in the repos if you activate19:40
haemogoblini'm installing openjdk atm19:40
adam61Kurdistan, it's more than flash, it's everything associated with the browsers. i don't think i have hdmi - i don't see it in alsamixer19:40
silverlightningI think I have repos activated for restricted and third party software even19:40
silverlightninghaemogoblin: I search for #lubuntu#, and they are easily found then19:41
silverlightningwell, lubuntu not the ##19:41
Kurdistanadam61: lspci | grep -i audio19:42
haemogoblinthanks19:42
haemogoblini forgot to enable restricted sources19:43
haemogoblinDOH!19:43
silverlightninglol19:43
silverlightninga classic19:43
adam61Kurdistan: 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)19:43
Kurdistanadam61: yes you have hdmi19:44
adam61k is that good?19:44
Kurdistanadam61: :P joking. you have exactly same spec like me.19:44
adam61cool19:44
adam61do you have an idea as to what my issue is?19:45
Kurdistanadam61: did it work before you installed pulseaudio?19:45
haemogoblinsilverlightning: i can't seem to see restricted repo's19:45
haemogoblin:/19:45
Kurdistanadam61: I have never had any sound problem with linux in my 2 years if it19:45
haemogoblinoh wait..think i might have cracked it :D19:46
adam61Kurdistan: i don't believe that i did intall pulseaudio; i think i did have sound at one point almost a year ago when i first got linux, but it caused crashes etc then just stopped working19:46
silverlightninghttp://imagebin.org/17885819:50
adam61Kurdistan: thanks for your help, this is taking up waaaaaaay too much time and is way too frustrating for me to handle. i'm gonna go drink.19:50
adam61thanks again19:51
silverlightninghaemogoblin: oh good, I found them straight away,19:51
Kurdistanadam61: test install pulseaudio.19:52
Kurdistanadam61: pavucontrol19:52
silverlightninghaemogoblin: there are only two restricted packages in synaptic, and it is the best way to add all this stuff19:53
silverlightningmedibuntu mess stuff up19:53
silverlightningI learned it the hard way19:53
haemogoblinIs there any quick way of finding out the cpu temp?19:54
haemogoblini just installed a new fan and was wondering what temperature the machines running at19:55
silverlightninghaemogoblin: system profiler and benchmark19:55
haemogoblincheers mate!19:55
silverlightningsensors are usually detected19:55
wxlthere's a temp panel app haemogoblin19:56
haemogoblinnothing is appreaing in the sensor section :S19:56
silverlightningyes I have had that happen to me too19:56
silverlightningmostly on old computers19:57
haemogoblinThis is a mini itx board19:57
silverlightningit does appear sometimes thought, a bit odd really19:57
haemogoblinit could just be the new fan i bought19:57
silverlightningnew laptops usually have several sensors detected19:57
haemogoblin:S19:57
silverlightningit might be a driver thing19:58
haemogoblintemperature plugin comes up with NA19:58
haemogoblinso i'm guessing it's just a glitch19:58
haemogoblinsilverlightning: Hey thanks, adding those restricted addon's did it20:00
haemogoblinnot the temp...20:00
haemogoblinbut got java running20:00
haemogoblin:D20:00
haemogoblinNow i can minecraft!! woohoo!20:00
wxloh gawd20:01
wxlso'k, i couldn't live without ltris20:01
silverlightninghaemogoblin: keep check the temp sensors in system profiler now and then still20:03
silverlightninghaemogoblin: it does kick in after a while, might be drivers or something that doesn't probe correctly20:03
haemogoblinI'll keep an eye on it20:06
silverlightningare you in oneric?20:08
silverlightningany skype at all in package manager?20:09
silverlightninganyone clever with apt-get in package manager?20:09
KM0201silverlightening amazes me20:22
KM0201he won't download a package from skype.com  but he uses some jacked up repository like medibuntu w/o question...lol20:22
wxlhahahha20:23
wxlholy hell i'm so thankful we use ubuntu for our server20:24
wxlcuz this piece of malware my co-worker has is a doozy20:24
wxl(windows of course)20:24
KM0201lol20:31
wxlit's actually an amalgamation of viruses, rootkits, trojans, etc. etc. etc.20:32
wxland naturally it's hacked the HELL out of the registry20:32
wxli HATE the registry20:32
wxlworst configuration system idea EVER20:32
KM0201mant his is irritating me20:33
silverlightninghi20:33
wxlKM0201: off topic conversations? :D20:33
silverlightningare you in lubuntu KM0201?20:33
KM0201wxl: lol, no.. i'm trying to get rhythmbox to see my mediatomb share, and it's just not co-operating.. trust me, my ignore button works well... (i use it at work all the time).. off topic doesn't bother me20:34
KM0201silverlightning: yes, of course20:34
silverlightningI am looking for skype in package manager, and only find plugins that need skype to be relevant20:34
KM0201silverlightning: you won't find it20:34
wxlheh20:34
silverlightningoh20:34
silverlightningit might be added?20:35
KM0201no, i twont20:35
wxlheck no20:35
wxlit's the most non-free thing ever20:35
wxlit's like anti-free20:35
KM0201those are just old packages most likely20:35
wxlhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype20:35
silverlightningI don't care much, just need it20:35
KM0201silverlightning: if you want skype, download the deb from skype.com20:35
silverlightninganyone good with compiling20:35
wxltho i disagree with their suggestions and recommend jitsi as a general voip option20:35
KM0201what do you need to compile?20:35
silverlightningI know of a package for debian based puppy linux20:36
KM0201a package for what?20:36
wxlthen it's likely a deb20:36
wxlin which case you just run dpkg on it20:36
KM0201silverlightning: you have an amazing ability to ask a question, that doesn't make any sense... if you want skype, go to skype.com, and download th e.deb file.. why on earth would you try using a package for puppy?  they have ubuntu packages on their site20:36
silverlightninggood20:37
wxlhere's how to install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_downloaded_packages20:37
KM0201it's almost as easy as an .exe20:37
wxlhah20:38
silverlightningit's just I noticed this puppy where ubuntu repositories can be activated and packages downloaded20:38
wxland most likely with less viruses ;)20:38
* KM0201 sighs20:38
wxlKM0201: breathe in20:38
wxlKM0201: breathe out20:38
* silverlightning looks sharply at KM020120:38
wxllet's break it down, silverlightning20:38
wxl1. go to that first link20:39
wxl2. follow the instructions20:39
wxl3. if it's not obvious how to install, use the second link20:39
wxl4. use skype20:39
wxl5. love you, bye20:39
KM0201silverlightning: i'm just trying to grasp this... skype.com has ubuntu packages, yet you're asking how to download a puppy package, and use it on ubuntu.20:39
silverlightningyou just said that, ok ok20:40
wxlKM0201: btw no experience with mediatomb but have you confirmed that upnp is working?20:40
wxli.e. can the box connect to another upnp share20:40
KM0201wxl: affirmative, i can play my music through xbmc via mediatomb.20:41
wxland can another box connect to the mediatomb20:41
wxl?20:41
silverlightningskype turns up in software center20:41
wxlah, it's rhythmbox20:41
KM0201yeah, its a rhythmbox issue20:41
silverlightningbut that is Ubuntu20:41
wxljust follow the instructions, dude20:41
=== silverlightning is now known as silverarrow
* phillw asks what the above has to do with lubuntu support? 20:50
KM0201what?20:51
wxlphillw: silverlightning wants skype to work in lubuntu20:54
KM0201wxl: i figure if he wanted details, he would have asked.20:55
wxlwell that and we gave it all to him20:56
KM0201i'm talking about phillw20:56
phillwwxl: if you want skype, you use the standard repo for it?20:56
wxloh heh20:56
wxlphillw: i don't, and it's not in the standard repos, but there are instructions on how to acquire it which were given to the person asking20:57
phillwif you do not, then no one on support can elp you, as you have non-standard install.20:57
KM0201honestly, i don't think anyone can support him anyway20:57
phillwwxl: and then the user comes back in asking for support - for something that is not supported? ... do you see the Catch 22?20:58
KM0201lol20:58
wxlphillw: what should you say instead? sorry, there's no hope for you?20:59
wxli think frankly support is given to use at your own risk20:59
wxlif you're going to dictate absolutely what can and cannot be used, you've just become another microsoft21:00
* KM0201 agrees21:00
phillwwxl / KM0201 have you not seen that on the synaptic part? "Sure, use this, but do not ask any of the *buntu Family for support".... Go ask the people who wrote it.21:01
phillwThat is very different to "you cannot use it"21:01
KM0201phillw: of course i have... this isn't my first rodeo21:02
KM0201but i also have common sense on the matter21:02
phillwanyways, IFK - take care :)21:02
KM0201he wasn't asking how to use skype, he was asking how to install skype21:02
Unit193Enable partner repo, install Skype21:03
KM0201apparently, telling someone that is not supported21:03
wxlhe certainly wasn't saying he was having problems with skype21:03
KM0201with this kind of response, maybe he should have21:04
wxlkinda hostile frankly21:05
KM0201some people are that way naturally21:06
* wxl shrugs21:08
KM0201ha, got it working.21:12
KM0201pain in the freaking neck though21:12
KM0201how do you get pcmanfm to show thumbnails?21:45
Unit193Edit > Preferences > Display21:46
wxldid u look in edit > pref > display -- at the max size?21:46
wxlmaybe it's too low21:46
KM0201i thinkt hats the prob21:46
KM0201adjusting now21:46
KM0201hmm, no that didn't work either21:48
wxli assume they're pngs?21:48
KM0201well, i was wanting thumbnails for videos21:49
KM0201pictures is working21:49
wxlohhhh21:49
KM0201sorry, should've been more clear21:49
wxllooks like not possible in current pcmanfm21:50
wxlpossible plans for the future21:50
KM0201thats what i kinda figured21:50
KM0201didn'tthink i was missing anything21:50
KM0201just hadn't thought about it till now.21:50
wxldoesn't even look like they have concrete plans for the future http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM_Roadmap21:52
KM0201yeah, i'm over it21:52
KM0201its not a huge deal21:52
KM0201if it was that big of a deal, i'd install Thunar21:52
KM0201well after getting through the initial daap silliness, my server seems ok now21:53
wxlbtw looks like it could use a feature req http://sourceforge.net/search/?group_id=156956&type_of_search=artifact&group_artifact_id=801864&limit=25&q=video+thumbnail21:54
wxlhttp://v.gd/jFKDlN better21:54
wxlanywho21:54
KM0201i like how that bug says.. "pcmanfm does not remmber generated thumbnaisl for the picture, *HE* redraw them anew each time21:57
KM0201lol21:57
KM0201i'm glad pcmanfm is male... as tempermental as it can be, i was thinking female21:57
wxlheh22:00
KM0201ok, i'm now seeding the 32bit ISO.22:03
wxlyey22:03
KM0201i've got it throttled a bit right now, when i go to bed, i'll crank it up.22:03
wxli dented/tweeted about the new release and how to get it going in ppc :D22:03
amjjawadPlease guys keep seeding22:04
KM0201if you're on a slow connection, it doesn't matter how much seeding is done22:06

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