[02:09] launch party time? :) [02:18] czz: i dont think lubuntu 11.10 will be out for at least a few days.. maybe i'm wrong, ive not even saw a release candidate posted [02:19] KM0201, It should be out tomorrow.... [02:19] Should be out the 13th at some point [02:20] If you want a party, #ubuntu-release-party [02:20] oh i thought phillw said the other day it would probably be like the 15th or so.. [02:20] it's not uncommon for xubuntu to be a few days late, so i just figured lubuntu would run the same course [02:20] It's all on the Ubuntu build system though [02:21] Any devs in here? :) [02:22] He's been idle for a few days [06:28] will Lubuntu also be released today? or will it take more days? [06:31] october 13th [06:31] today :) [09:13] hey all [09:13] is there any core devs here? [09:13] we need someone to sign off on the release ISO for 11.10 [09:14] Only one I know has a few days idle time [09:14] you can write on launchpad [09:17] gilir usually comes when it's ~20:00 his local time [09:19] About 13 here :P [10:46] hi [10:47] just trying out lubuntu (11.10) [10:48] question: how-to enable ALT-F2 -> 'Run' dialog ? [11:10] When comes the official 11.10? [11:11] Sometime today (the 13th) === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy === freedom07 is now known as Is_it_Out_yet === Is_it_Out_yet is now known as Is_it_Out_yet_ === Is_it_Out_yet_ is now known as freedom07 [12:18] wb hyperair [12:18] * hyperair meows [12:18] So, Whats up in Malaysia for the release? [12:19] hyperair: also you saw pcman recently? ? [12:19] IAmNotThatGuy: nah, i didn't. [12:19] IAmNotThatGuy: and i'm in singapore. [12:19] IAmNotThatGuy: my birthday is upcoming, so i'll be heading back home to malaysia though [12:19] * IAmNotThatGuy has some memory loss /ignore that [12:20] lol [12:21] I am planning to work on lxde environment in a month. My course for the development is kinda over [12:22] hyperair: date? [12:22] IAmNotThatGuy: 15th [12:24] Great [12:27] hyperair: you are working on Banshee related bugs these days? [12:28] IAmNotThatGuy: yes and no. [12:28] * IAmNotThatGuy is confused now [12:29] lol [12:31] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release is this official, the "Beta" has been removed [12:34] XLubuntu: http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/#ubuntu this say 5 hours [12:34] XLubuntu: The links to which they are pointing might be wrong. It will always be better to downlaod once the announcement is made. [12:34] I mean the download repos [12:34] lol, i've been waiting for whole long day !!!!:( [12:35] Please wait until we get an official announcement =) [12:35] its already night here :) [12:36] Lubuntu.net seems to be down? [12:37] XLubuntu: I Understand. But patience will always be a good option [12:37] Where does PCManFM store its desktop preferences? [12:37] Or is it just my weak 384kb mobile internet? [12:40] Found em [12:54] lubuntu.net has been down for a while, hasn't it ? [12:58] nicocool84: lubuntu.net is working here :| [13:01] xlubuntu: oh you're right, it just is extremely slow [13:11] allt he *buntus are gonna be slow the next few days, w/ heavy, heavy traffic looking for the new ISO's. [13:12] happens every release [13:12] use the torment [13:12] yup. [13:12] unless it's full of hit n run type of users [13:13] i usually try to seed it for about 4-5 days. [13:13] I try to see above ratio of 50 :D [13:14] seed [13:14] before i go to bed, i set the torrent to seed at full speed, then if i'm on the PC, i seed around 10-15k, otherwise, it just thrashes my connection [13:15] I dont have any better use for the bw [13:15] it can be throttled to use 400 out of 500kb/s [13:15] and ssh wont be laggy [13:17] hi [13:17] true [13:22] hi [13:31] hey guys [13:31] is 11.10 out yet? [13:33] yes I think it should be out today [13:35] its already out for 30 minutes :D [13:36] the questions is: is lubuntu 11.10 allready out ;) [13:36] I am in mondays version of lubuntu [13:36] perhaps it was tuesdays [13:36] yes, it is out [13:37] I suspect bugs to be found still, but updates usually fixes it [13:42] ah its out! [13:42] where can i get it = = [13:42] google isn't helping me =( [13:45] get lubuntu isn't updated yet [13:45] lubuntu 11.10 distribution release is out ? [13:45] i'm not sure :( [13:45] hmmm lxku said it's been out for 30 minutes [13:46] but he left D: [13:46] qq [13:46] anyone else here have a clue? [13:46] Ubuntu is out [13:46] i wasnt sure he was talking about lubuntu....thought he was talking about ubuntu [13:46] check their website [13:46] i know...thanks [13:46] Lubuntu still I guess [13:46] I'm refreshing the pages every few mins :D [13:46] Please guys ... if you download Lubuntu, use torrent and keep seeding [13:46] :) [13:47] i will do it tonight [13:47] GOOD :D [13:47] or i will get it iwth unetbootin usb install [13:47] Julien didn't make the annoucement yet [13:47] I prefer torrent [13:47] i am not using ptopical discs anymore [13:48] i like torrent for linux iso downloads too [13:48] USB is faster [13:48] and I came to know that when booting from USB, the problem with the live session is not there [13:48] i ve heardt that torrent download is secure becauase there is a corrupted file check with torrent [13:48] I mean when u hit try lubuntu, it works ONLY from LiveUSB [13:48] so no further checksum checking needed [13:49] you cant burn it ? [13:49] Yes, I heard that too. I mean read it. However, checking md5sum shouldn't take more than 1min [13:49] LiveUSB = use UNetbootin :) [13:49] yeah [13:50] I can't wait :D [13:50] but checkin mD5 is only a good idea when you do veryfaying the ckescum file first [13:50] better safe than sorry [13:50] you need to ferify the authenciuty of the checksum file [13:50] yeah [13:50] I always advise to check it first [13:50] always nice to have it verified [13:51] there was an attack on kernel.org !!! [13:51] yes, always nice indeed [13:51] you ve heardt about that ? [13:51] really? from who? [13:51] i guess from cia [13:51] what? [13:51] if it doesn't come out right, you at least have an inkling about weird troubles [13:51] why is that? [13:51] yes [13:51] they hacked kernel.org [13:51] but no problomo [13:52] thanks to git everything is decentralized :) [13:52] idk really [13:52] fucking lamers - fuck you all ;) [13:53] even i am on linux i am very concerned about security [13:53] let's keep the f word out :) [13:53] sorry [13:53] it's ok [13:53] well, why to worry? [13:53] but you are right [13:53] dont worry [13:53] if u know what u r doing, don't be worry [13:53] I mean download from terminal or synaptic [13:53] don't go to weird websites, etc [13:53] as i said, thanks git everything is so decentralized that no cia and no other secret service can attack the linux and opensource world [13:54] hahahahaha [13:54] ;) [13:54] if they want to attack, they will ;) [13:54] if u r in the safe side, don't worry [13:54] then they have to change all downloaded git repros [13:55] many thousands to millions git pulls [13:55] and then they have to hack it [13:55] COME ON Julien ... can't wait :D [13:55] hehehe [13:55] don't worry about hacking :D [13:55] i am allways a lil paranoid [13:55] hahahahah [13:55] not more than me ;) [13:55] but I don't pay attention to these stuff [13:55] like any other serious linux guy ;) [13:56] Like any other serious "windows" guy :P [13:56] no, the windows guys arent concerned [13:56] like sony user lol [13:56] hahahaha [13:56] sony was attacked yesterday again hahahaha [13:56] ops [13:56] yep [13:57] well, I'm a poor guy with two old PCs :P [13:57] i am using old pcs too [13:57] how old? [13:57] q9950 ....intel quad 4 x 3 ghz and 12 mb cache...maybe 4 years old [13:58] and a 4 years old dual core intel laptop [13:58] I'm having P4 with 512RAM and 2G RAM the othre one [13:58] mine r 6 years I guess [13:58] no problem..... [13:58] :) [13:58] but really who cares? with Linux, I find it fast :D [13:59] we have a loptop here, HP core i5 with Win7 [13:59] IT IS SO SLOW ... :/ [13:59] Newest lubuntu not out yet? [13:59] If it's mine, I would format and install Linux [13:59] ahma, let me check :) [13:59] ;) [14:00] have to clean my rooms [14:00] c u in 2 hours ;) [14:01] ok [14:01] cya [14:01] Im now loading ubuntu via torrent, cant find lubuntu yet [14:02] yep, I guess it's not there yet [14:03] Im going to do clean install from cd to newer and to old laptop so I download both [14:03] just make sure to use torrent as much as u can [14:03] keep seeding :D [14:05] looks like the website is down or am I the only one? [14:06] I kinda hit and run because I do a clean install to that old laptop wich is downloading too [14:18] lubuntu site is crawling [14:18] it's down I guess [14:18] I'm checking now again [14:19] anyone in the oneric? [14:19] I was suspecting a few updates yesterday and last night [14:20] I have none in update manager? [14:20] not seeing 11.10 on the site [14:20] should I worry about it? [14:20] it should be launched [14:21] They give a date, but never a time. :) [14:21] I have the isobuild from a few days ago [14:21] like moday or tuesday [14:21] true [14:22] I am very happy with 11.10 [14:22] Ubuntu is out, lubuntu not yet [14:22] it has all the tiny stuff I missed in 04 lol [14:22] I see [14:23] I hope the last daily builds will update nicely [14:23] I haven't had it confirmed by the experts yet [14:25] even on newer systems lubuntu has a few advantages [14:25] depending on hardware [14:29] I'm out too ... CYA all :) [14:29] i should download ubuntu via torrent to help seed :_ [14:29] my new connection can def. handle it [15:31] wow looks like i misssed the visit from the tin foil hat club [15:33] ? [15:34] 13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> there was an attack on kernel.org !!! [15:34] 13:Oct:11|06:51 < amjjawad:#lubuntu> yes, always nice indeed [15:34] 13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> you ve heardt about that ? [15:34] 13:Oct:11|06:51 < amjjawad:#lubuntu> really? from who? [15:34] 13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> i guess from cia [15:35] the man is after our kernels. [15:35] hehehe [15:35] :) [15:35] its not a secret [15:35] some one tried to hack kernel.org [15:35] THAT i believe [15:35] and the only institution that would do such thing is the cia [15:36] or another secret service [15:36] look, the united states of america do have access to all closed soft and hardware [15:36] that was invented or produced in the united states [15:36] this is us law [15:37] the only systems they dont have access to is linux based systems [15:38] so, it is quite important for the united states to have military, politcal, finacial and technical control - thats the only way they think they can defend their freedom [15:39] so, they had to hack the linux kernel, which they couldnt because its not stored or controlled by one central instance [15:40] i am quite stupid, but i really cant imagine why any one else would try to hack the linux kernel [15:42] @wxl yes, i really would like to wrap myself in gold foil and wear a gold foil hat....just to get some protection against eletronic waves (electro smog) and radiation from space (neutrinos) [15:42] dr-lee: Error: "wxl" is not a valid command. [15:43] hehehe [15:43] i am quite astonished that wxl knew i would like to weak tin foil hats hehehehe [15:43] wear [16:40] lubuntu.net is down? [16:40] wxl, slow. Yes [16:41] phillw, Ping Gilir [16:41] maybe there's somewhere else i can fnid a hq lubuntu logo, IAmNotThatGuy ? [16:42] google images? [16:42] bah ok [16:43] pulls up a bunch of shitty ubuntu crap [16:43] hmm [16:43] at least if i look for large [16:43] You wont be finding the best. I forgot the developer's name [16:43] Lemme find him [16:45] largest i find is 300x300 :/ [16:55] i wanna lubuntu sticker [16:55] hmm [16:56] like http://www.unixstickers.com/kubuntu_linux_os_sticker [16:56] oh there is one now [16:56] hmm, i don't know if there's Lubuntu ones available yet [16:56] nevermind :D [16:56] link? [16:57] http://www.unixstickers.com/lubuntu_linux_sticker?filter_name=lubuntu [16:57] it's on a mac, too! [16:57] lol [16:57] i'm intent on making an lubuntu-on-apple sticker [16:59] I've been thinking of putting one of these on my NAS... http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/5b43/ [16:59] i like that "Linux Inside" one [16:59] so we does lubuntu use plymouth instead of lxdm for a session manager? make it consistent with ubuntu? [17:00] heh, yep [17:00] what? [17:00] plymouth = plymouth, LXDM = desktop manager [17:00] oops [17:00] sorry autopilot there [17:00] lxsession [17:06] has the lubuntu 11.10 final ISO been uploaded yet? [17:10] http://fi.releases.ubuntu.com/ doesnt look good [17:11] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/11.10 [17:11] cdimage.ubuntu.com is really jammed [17:12] I bet Lonestar has something to do with that [17:12] i'm trying to find a Lubuntu image [17:12] none of those links have lubuntu [17:14] oh, i found it now. [17:16] dang, no peers on the i386 torrent [17:29] I just upgraded from lubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 and now the WIFI BCM4318 to connect to the internet is not working. I only have a Verizon Hotspot to connect to the internet with but I have Win7 that can get files. How do I get the Wifi working again on Compaq presario V2000? [17:30] 4318... did that use B43 or STA? (i'm trying to look now, but.. ubuntu's sites are crawling) [17:30] B43 [17:30] http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o [17:30] download that [17:31] http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2 [17:31] and that [17:31] after you download them, put them in your home folder on Ubuntu (i'm assuming you're on 7 right now. [17:32] once those files are in your home folder [17:32] run these 3 commands in a terminal individually.... [17:32] tar xfvj broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2 [17:32] sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o [17:32] sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o [17:32] (might be easiest to copy those to a text file, as you're bound to screw up if yout ry typing them) [17:33] once that is done... go to additional drivers under menu/system tools, and activate the b43 driver, then restart [17:33] and you should have wireless [17:34] KM0201: Will try, thank you for the help! [17:34] no problem.... couple key things. [17:34] 1... make sure those two files that you downloaded [17:35] are in your home folder (unless you know how to CD w/ the terminal, etc.. i wrote that lie you were a newb) [17:35] it's pretty easy to do though [17:42] dling 11.10 :) [17:42] Need to backup before [17:54] KM0201: And we have WIFI, again thank you for the help! [17:55] Lubuntu Rules!!!! lol [17:55] Kutakizukari: no problem [17:55] czz: wait some weeks :) [17:56] i love lubuntu [17:58] KM0201: Yeah running it on a Compaq Presario V2000, much faster than any other OS I have tried on it. [17:58] yeah, on something that old, i imagine so. [18:05] if people have difficulties to download the ISOs, there is a mirror available in France : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/11.10/ [18:13] gilir, congratulations for a few years hard work ;) [18:13] gilir, now it really happened [18:22] a few years huh? [18:23] didn't think lubuntu had been around quite that long [18:27] bioterror, it's a success for everyone in the team :) [18:29] gilir: were yout he one who started lubuntu?.. if so, out of curiosity, what prompted you to do it? [18:31] KM0201, not started, but I was involved early [18:32] KM0201, and my main goal was to have an OS for my eeePC 701 :) [18:32] i see [18:35] Hi, is lubuntu 11.10 relased yet? [18:35] yes [18:35] the ubuntu sites are just really really slow right now due to traffic [18:35] use the torrents [18:36] And seed for others [18:36] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent --- that's the 32bit torrent if you want it [18:36] well yeah, that should go w/o saying [18:36] Unit193: of course ;) [18:36] KM0201: ok, thanks [18:49] hi, wondering if anyone knows why i can't get sound from my browsers.. thanks [18:50] no sound from either chrome or firefox.. mp3s work fine [18:50] can you get sound from media player for example? [18:50] hi bioterror, yes that's fine, it's just my browsers [18:51] I really really cannot figure it out [18:51] that's ok, thanks anyways [18:51] adam61, what browser? [18:51] hi czz, firefox and chrome [18:51] neither has any sound [18:52] adam61, You have the latest flash installed? [18:52] sudo service vsftpd stop [18:52] yes, i have tried installing every version of flash i could find [18:52] lol, woops [18:52] adam61, What version do you have installed now? [18:53] evening [18:53] KM0201: Hows it going mate [18:53] haemogoblin: just about done upgrading my server to 11.10 [18:53] czz, i haven't tried anything for a few months now, can't remember where to go to check that [18:53] i'll probably do my desktop tonight [18:53] Cool [18:54] well, i didn't really upgrade, i clean installed [18:54] My new fan arrived today, just installed it and the machine is SOO much quieter [18:54] but.. its just about done [18:54] Before it was headache inducing :P [18:55] adam61, http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html [18:55] scroll to the bottom and in the gray box you'll see your version installed. [18:55] k thanks [18:56] adam61, does your browsers play mp3's for example? [18:56] or is it just flash? [18:56] no there's no sound at all from the browsers [18:56] that's just really weird :) [18:56] hmm do you have pavucontrol installed? [18:57] if so.. start a nice, long youtube video, and open pavucontrol, and see if by chance your browsers volume si all the way down [18:57] czz, this is the version it says i have 11,0,1,152 [18:57] bioterror, ya it's frustrating being without sound for months lol [18:58] have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling? [18:59] czz, ya i tried that soo many times, with all my flash installers and also browsers, i tried chomium, everything [18:59] i gave up and haven't tried anything now for about four months [19:00] i'm pretty much a novice with linux though [19:01] is there a way to set your sound mixer to play certain applications and not others? how would i locate this [19:01] KM0201, Anyone on that torrent? [19:02] not at the moment, i'm upgrading my server, soon as i get it up,i'll start seeding again [19:03] czz, do u know if i'm on the best channel to ask about this? is there a better one, like should i try #ubuntu, or a beginner one? [19:03] adam61, try #ubuntu [19:03] ok thanks i'll give it a try [19:04] it sounds like a settings issue somewhere, because sound is working other thant he browsers [19:04] thats why i suggested pavucontrol [19:04] adam61, everything is in alsamixer maxed out and unmuted? [19:08] my update manager is telling me ubuntu 11.10 is availible.. [19:08] but i'm using lubuntu [19:08] :/ [19:08] well, it always does that i think [19:08] Will it tell me when there is a lubuntu update? [19:09] honestly, i dunno [19:09] lol [19:09] i don't ever upgrade, always clean install [19:09] lol [19:09] thats just ODD [19:09] eh, i got screwed by an MS upgrade a long, long, long time ago. [19:09] install Lubuntu but update to ubuntu! [19:10] since then, i just always clean install an OS (even though ubuntu will probably be upgraded just fine) [19:10] well, no its really not odd, because lubuntu, uses ubuntu repositories [19:10] , etc. [19:10] so it sees an upgrade now. [19:10] someone should show me some screenshots of lubuntu 11.10 when they get a chance [19:10] I wanna see it [19:10] :D [19:10] bioterror, sorry didn't see your post till now; everything in alsamixer is unmuted and maxed except the mic. [19:10] Yes but if i did the upgrade [19:11] would i be booting in to ubuntu or lubuntu after the upgrade? [19:11] got me a bit confuzzled [19:11] KM0201, what is pavucontrol? should i do sudo service vsftpd stop? [19:12] adam61: no, that was an accident on my part (vsftpd)... i should have been typing in a shell for my server [19:12] congrats the lubuntu team for there release. [19:12] pavucontrol, is a volume adjuster for pulse audio... i've generally found when i'm having weird sound behaviors, i can track it down using it. [19:12] oh ok haa [19:13] pavucontrol is for controlling pulseuadio [19:13] right [19:13] pulseaudio isn't in Lubuntu though is it? i thought they did away with that [19:13] (i'm of course assuming he has pulse audio installed) [19:13] adam61: i always install it. [19:13] i did notice in lubuntu there's no real audio control panel [19:13] I am pulseaudio fan also. [19:14] not totally necessary of course, but.. my laptop always acts weird using alsa.. once i install/configure pulse audio, it works flawlessly [19:14] if you ever use external mic with only alsa, without pulseaudio it is difficult to get it work. [19:14] i had big problems with conflicts between pulseaudio and my tascam interface, so that's a major reason i'm using Lubuntu, is because it's default doesn't use pulseaudio, or so i understand it [19:14] Kurdistan: yup [19:14] ya i need alsa [19:14] KM0201: remember that pulseaudio is like frontend for alsa [19:15] eh.. .i'm not so sure about that, but.. ok. [19:16] hmm [19:16] issue 1 w/ server..lol [19:16] well, hold on, might have been a repository issue. [19:18] hmm, firefly isn't in ubuntu server edition [19:35] anyone have any ideas about why i can't get sound from my browsers? [19:35] adam61: you have pcm disabled [19:35] what kind of skype should I get [19:35] ? [19:35] or on zero [19:36] adam61: open terminal. copy/paste: alsamixer [19:36] you will see pcm [19:36] put it on the highest [19:36] Kurdistan, hi thanks, i'll try that [19:37] who on earth renamed mt-daapd to forked-daapd lol [19:37] is skype still used? [19:37] adam61: you can install gnome alsa mixer. [19:37] it is gui for alsamixer [19:37] easier [19:37] I used to have this tiny app for skype [19:37] silverlightning: why wouldn't it be? [19:37] silverlightning: yeah skype works. [19:38] all I find in package manager is a pidgin plugin, that requires skype app to run [19:39] Kurdistan, it says pcm was at 100 already [19:39] Hey guys, what package to i need to install to get java working? [19:39] silverlightning: only install skype. [19:39] adam61 still does not work? [19:39] haemogoblin: I think it comes with the two restricted packages in manager [19:39] is it flash that do not work? [19:39] it was already set at 100, so i didn't change anything and it still doesn't work [19:39] Kurdistan: you did it from the Skype homepage+ [19:39] adam61: do you have hdmi? [19:39] do you happen to know the name of them? [19:40] silverlightning: I do not use lubuntu/ubuntu. [19:40] but there should be in the repos if you activate [19:40] i'm installing openjdk atm [19:40] Kurdistan, it's more than flash, it's everything associated with the browsers. i don't think i have hdmi - i don't see it in alsamixer [19:40] I think I have repos activated for restricted and third party software even [19:41] haemogoblin: I search for #lubuntu#, and they are easily found then [19:41] well, lubuntu not the ## [19:42] adam61: lspci | grep -i audio [19:42] thanks [19:43] i forgot to enable restricted sources [19:43] DOH! [19:43] lol [19:43] a classic [19:43] Kurdistan: 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) [19:44] adam61: yes you have hdmi [19:44] k is that good? [19:44] adam61: :P joking. you have exactly same spec like me. [19:44] cool [19:45] do you have an idea as to what my issue is? [19:45] adam61: did it work before you installed pulseaudio? [19:45] silverlightning: i can't seem to see restricted repo's [19:45] :/ [19:45] adam61: I have never had any sound problem with linux in my 2 years if it [19:46] oh wait..think i might have cracked it :D [19:46] Kurdistan: i don't believe that i did intall pulseaudio; i think i did have sound at one point almost a year ago when i first got linux, but it caused crashes etc then just stopped working [19:50] http://imagebin.org/178858 [19:50] Kurdistan: thanks for your help, this is taking up waaaaaaay too much time and is way too frustrating for me to handle. i'm gonna go drink. [19:51] thanks again [19:51] haemogoblin: oh good, I found them straight away, [19:52] adam61: test install pulseaudio. [19:52] adam61: pavucontrol [19:53] haemogoblin: there are only two restricted packages in synaptic, and it is the best way to add all this stuff [19:53] medibuntu mess stuff up [19:53] I learned it the hard way [19:54] Is there any quick way of finding out the cpu temp? [19:55] i just installed a new fan and was wondering what temperature the machines running at [19:55] haemogoblin: system profiler and benchmark [19:55] cheers mate! [19:55] sensors are usually detected [19:56] there's a temp panel app haemogoblin [19:56] nothing is appreaing in the sensor section :S [19:56] yes I have had that happen to me too [19:57] mostly on old computers [19:57] This is a mini itx board [19:57] it does appear sometimes thought, a bit odd really [19:57] it could just be the new fan i bought [19:57] new laptops usually have several sensors detected [19:57] :S [19:58] it might be a driver thing [19:58] temperature plugin comes up with NA [19:58] so i'm guessing it's just a glitch [20:00] silverlightning: Hey thanks, adding those restricted addon's did it [20:00] not the temp... [20:00] but got java running [20:00] :D [20:00] Now i can minecraft!! woohoo! [20:01] oh gawd [20:01] so'k, i couldn't live without ltris [20:03] haemogoblin: keep check the temp sensors in system profiler now and then still [20:03] haemogoblin: it does kick in after a while, might be drivers or something that doesn't probe correctly [20:06] I'll keep an eye on it [20:08] are you in oneric? [20:09] any skype at all in package manager? [20:09] anyone clever with apt-get in package manager? [20:22] silverlightening amazes me [20:22] he won't download a package from skype.com but he uses some jacked up repository like medibuntu w/o question...lol [20:23] hahahha [20:24] holy hell i'm so thankful we use ubuntu for our server [20:24] cuz this piece of malware my co-worker has is a doozy [20:24] (windows of course) [20:31] lol [20:32] it's actually an amalgamation of viruses, rootkits, trojans, etc. etc. etc. [20:32] and naturally it's hacked the HELL out of the registry [20:32] i HATE the registry [20:32] worst configuration system idea EVER [20:33] mant his is irritating me [20:33] hi [20:33] KM0201: off topic conversations? :D [20:33] are you in lubuntu KM0201? [20:34] wxl: lol, no.. i'm trying to get rhythmbox to see my mediatomb share, and it's just not co-operating.. trust me, my ignore button works well... (i use it at work all the time).. off topic doesn't bother me [20:34] silverlightning: yes, of course [20:34] I am looking for skype in package manager, and only find plugins that need skype to be relevant [20:34] silverlightning: you won't find it [20:34] heh [20:34] oh [20:35] it might be added? [20:35] no, i twont [20:35] heck no [20:35] it's the most non-free thing ever [20:35] it's like anti-free [20:35] those are just old packages most likely [20:35] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype [20:35] I don't care much, just need it [20:35] silverlightning: if you want skype, download the deb from skype.com [20:35] anyone good with compiling [20:35] tho i disagree with their suggestions and recommend jitsi as a general voip option [20:35] what do you need to compile? [20:36] I know of a package for debian based puppy linux [20:36] a package for what? [20:36] then it's likely a deb [20:36] in which case you just run dpkg on it [20:36] silverlightning: you have an amazing ability to ask a question, that doesn't make any sense... if you want skype, go to skype.com, and download th e.deb file.. why on earth would you try using a package for puppy? they have ubuntu packages on their site [20:37] good [20:37] here's how to install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_downloaded_packages [20:37] it's almost as easy as an .exe [20:38] hah [20:38] it's just I noticed this puppy where ubuntu repositories can be activated and packages downloaded [20:38] and most likely with less viruses ;) [20:38] * KM0201 sighs [20:38] KM0201: breathe in [20:38] KM0201: breathe out [20:38] * silverlightning looks sharply at KM0201 [20:38] let's break it down, silverlightning [20:39] 1. go to that first link [20:39] 2. follow the instructions [20:39] 3. if it's not obvious how to install, use the second link [20:39] 4. use skype [20:39] 5. love you, bye [20:39] silverlightning: i'm just trying to grasp this... skype.com has ubuntu packages, yet you're asking how to download a puppy package, and use it on ubuntu. [20:40] you just said that, ok ok [20:40] KM0201: btw no experience with mediatomb but have you confirmed that upnp is working? [20:40] i.e. can the box connect to another upnp share [20:41] wxl: affirmative, i can play my music through xbmc via mediatomb. [20:41] and can another box connect to the mediatomb [20:41] ? [20:41] skype turns up in software center [20:41] ah, it's rhythmbox [20:41] yeah, its a rhythmbox issue [20:41] but that is Ubuntu [20:41] just follow the instructions, dude === silverlightning is now known as silverarrow [20:50] * phillw asks what the above has to do with lubuntu support? [20:51] what? [20:54] phillw: silverlightning wants skype to work in lubuntu [20:55] wxl: i figure if he wanted details, he would have asked. [20:56] well that and we gave it all to him [20:56] i'm talking about phillw [20:56] wxl: if you want skype, you use the standard repo for it? [20:56] oh heh [20:57] phillw: i don't, and it's not in the standard repos, but there are instructions on how to acquire it which were given to the person asking [20:57] if you do not, then no one on support can elp you, as you have non-standard install. [20:57] honestly, i don't think anyone can support him anyway [20:58] wxl: and then the user comes back in asking for support - for something that is not supported? ... do you see the Catch 22? [20:58] lol [20:59] phillw: what should you say instead? sorry, there's no hope for you? [20:59] i think frankly support is given to use at your own risk [21:00] if you're going to dictate absolutely what can and cannot be used, you've just become another microsoft [21:00] * KM0201 agrees [21:01] wxl / KM0201 have you not seen that on the synaptic part? "Sure, use this, but do not ask any of the *buntu Family for support".... Go ask the people who wrote it. [21:01] That is very different to "you cannot use it" [21:02] phillw: of course i have... this isn't my first rodeo [21:02] but i also have common sense on the matter [21:02] anyways, IFK - take care :) [21:02] he wasn't asking how to use skype, he was asking how to install skype [21:03] Enable partner repo, install Skype [21:03] apparently, telling someone that is not supported [21:03] he certainly wasn't saying he was having problems with skype [21:04] with this kind of response, maybe he should have [21:05] kinda hostile frankly [21:06] some people are that way naturally [21:08] * wxl shrugs [21:12] ha, got it working. [21:12] pain in the freaking neck though [21:45] how do you get pcmanfm to show thumbnails? [21:46] Edit > Preferences > Display [21:46] did u look in edit > pref > display -- at the max size? [21:46] maybe it's too low [21:46] i thinkt hats the prob [21:46] adjusting now [21:48] hmm, no that didn't work either [21:48] i assume they're pngs? [21:49] well, i was wanting thumbnails for videos [21:49] pictures is working [21:49] ohhhh [21:49] sorry, should've been more clear [21:50] looks like not possible in current pcmanfm [21:50] possible plans for the future [21:50] thats what i kinda figured [21:50] didn'tthink i was missing anything [21:50] just hadn't thought about it till now. [21:52] doesn't even look like they have concrete plans for the future http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM_Roadmap [21:52] yeah, i'm over it [21:52] its not a huge deal [21:52] if it was that big of a deal, i'd install Thunar [21:53] well after getting through the initial daap silliness, my server seems ok now [21:54] btw looks like it could use a feature req http://sourceforge.net/search/?group_id=156956&type_of_search=artifact&group_artifact_id=801864&limit=25&q=video+thumbnail [21:54] http://v.gd/jFKDlN better [21:54] anywho [21:57] i like how that bug says.. "pcmanfm does not remmber generated thumbnaisl for the picture, *HE* redraw them anew each time [21:57] lol [21:57] i'm glad pcmanfm is male... as tempermental as it can be, i was thinking female [22:00] heh [22:03] ok, i'm now seeding the 32bit ISO. [22:03] yey [22:03] i've got it throttled a bit right now, when i go to bed, i'll crank it up. [22:03] i dented/tweeted about the new release and how to get it going in ppc :D [22:04] Please guys keep seeding [22:06] if you're on a slow connection, it doesn't matter how much seeding is done