[02:09] <czz> launch party time? :)
[02:18] <KM0201> czz: i dont think lubuntu 11.10 will be out for at least a few days.. maybe i'm wrong, ive not even saw a release candidate posted
[02:19] <czz> KM0201, It should be out tomorrow....
[02:19] <Unit193> Should be out the 13th at some point
[02:20] <Unit193> If you want a party, #ubuntu-release-party
[02:20] <KM0201> oh i thought phillw said the other day it would probably be like the 15th or so..
[02:20] <KM0201> it's not uncommon for xubuntu to be a few days late, so i just figured lubuntu would run the same course
[02:20] <Unit193> It's all on the Ubuntu build system though
[02:21] <czz> Any devs in here? :)
[02:22] <Unit193> He's been idle for a few days
[06:28] <mannish> will Lubuntu also be released today? or will it take more days?
[06:31] <bioterror> october 13th
[06:31] <mannish> today :)
[09:13] <jono> hey all
[09:13] <jono> is there any core devs here?
[09:13] <jono> we need someone to sign off on the release ISO for 11.10
[09:14] <Unit193> Only one I know has a few days idle time
[09:14] <karol_> you can write on launchpad
[09:17] <bioterror> gilir usually comes when it's ~20:00 his local time
[09:19] <Unit193> About 13 here :P
[10:46] <rghvdberg> hi
[10:47] <rghvdberg> just trying out lubuntu (11.10)
[10:48] <rghvdberg> question: how-to enable ALT-F2 -> 'Run' dialog ?
[11:10] <ahma> When comes the official 11.10?
[11:11] <Unit193> Sometime today (the 13th)
[12:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> wb hyperair
[12:18]  * hyperair meows
[12:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> So, Whats up in Malaysia for the release?
[12:19] <IAmNotThatGuy> hyperair: also you saw pcman recently? ?
[12:19] <hyperair> IAmNotThatGuy: nah, i didn't.
[12:19] <hyperair> IAmNotThatGuy: and i'm in singapore.
[12:19] <hyperair> IAmNotThatGuy: my birthday is upcoming, so i'll be heading back home to malaysia though
[12:19]  * IAmNotThatGuy has some memory loss /ignore that
[12:20] <hyperair> lol
[12:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> I am planning to work on lxde environment in a month. My course for the development is kinda over
[12:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> hyperair: date?
[12:22] <hyperair> IAmNotThatGuy: 15th
[12:24] <IAmNotThatGuy> Great
[12:27] <IAmNotThatGuy> hyperair: you are working on Banshee related bugs these days?
[12:28] <hyperair> IAmNotThatGuy: yes and no.
[12:28]  * IAmNotThatGuy is confused now
[12:29] <hyperair> lol
[12:31] <XLubuntu> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release is this official, the "Beta" has been removed
[12:34] <JohnDoe_71Rus> XLubuntu: http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/#ubuntu this say 5 hours
[12:34] <IAmNotThatGuy> XLubuntu: The links to which they are pointing might be wrong. It will always be better to downlaod once the announcement is made.
[12:34] <IAmNotThatGuy> I mean the download repos
[12:34] <XLubuntu> lol, i've been waiting for whole long day !!!!:(
[12:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> Please wait until we get an official announcement =)
[12:35] <XLubuntu> its already night here :)
[12:36] <ahma> Lubuntu.net seems to be down?
[12:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> XLubuntu: I Understand. But patience will always be a good option
[12:37] <mark76> Where does PCManFM store its desktop preferences?
[12:37] <ahma> Or is it just my weak 384kb mobile internet?
[12:40] <mark76> Found em
[12:54] <nicocool84> lubuntu.net has been down for a while, hasn't it ?
[12:58] <XLubuntu> nicocool84: lubuntu.net is working here :|
[13:01] <nicocool84> xlubuntu: oh you're right, it just is extremely slow
[13:11] <KM0201> allt he *buntus are gonna be slow the next few days, w/ heavy, heavy traffic looking for the new ISO's.
[13:12] <KM0201> happens every release
[13:12] <bioterror> use the torment
[13:12] <KM0201> yup.
[13:12] <bioterror> unless it's full of hit n run type of users
[13:13] <KM0201> i usually try to seed it for about 4-5 days.
[13:13] <bioterror> I try to see above ratio of 50 :D
[13:14] <bioterror> seed
[13:14] <KM0201> before i go to bed, i set the torrent to seed at full speed, then if i'm on the PC, i seed around 10-15k, otherwise, it just thrashes my connection
[13:15] <bioterror> I dont have any better use for the bw
[13:15] <bioterror> it can be throttled to use 400 out of 500kb/s
[13:15] <bioterror> and ssh wont be laggy
[13:17] <silverlightning> hi
[13:17] <KM0201> true
[13:22] <dr-lee> hi
[13:31] <tzhuang> hey guys
[13:31] <tzhuang> is 11.10 out yet?
[13:33] <silverlightning> yes I think it should be out today
[13:35] <lxku> its already out for 30 minutes :D
[13:36] <dr-lee> the questions is: is lubuntu 11.10 allready out ;)
[13:36] <silverlightning> I am in mondays version of lubuntu
[13:36] <silverlightning> perhaps it was tuesdays
[13:36] <lxku> yes, it is out
[13:37] <silverlightning> I suspect bugs to be found still, but updates usually fixes it
[13:42] <tzhuang> ah its out!
[13:42] <tzhuang> where can i get it = =
[13:42] <tzhuang> google isn't helping me =(
[13:45] <amjjawad> get lubuntu isn't updated yet
[13:45] <dr-lee> lubuntu 11.10 distribution release is out ?
[13:45] <amjjawad> i'm not sure :(
[13:45] <tzhuang> hmmm lxku said it's been out for 30 minutes
[13:46] <tzhuang> but he left D:
[13:46] <tzhuang> qq
[13:46] <tzhuang> anyone else here have a clue?
[13:46] <amjjawad> Ubuntu is out
[13:46] <dr-lee> i wasnt sure he was talking about lubuntu....thought he was talking about ubuntu
[13:46] <amjjawad> check their website
[13:46] <dr-lee> i know...thanks
[13:46] <amjjawad> Lubuntu still I guess
[13:46] <amjjawad> I'm refreshing the pages every few mins :D
[13:46] <amjjawad> Please guys ... if you download Lubuntu, use torrent and keep seeding
[13:46] <amjjawad> :)
[13:47] <dr-lee> i will do it tonight
[13:47] <amjjawad> GOOD :D
[13:47] <dr-lee> or i will get it iwth unetbootin usb install
[13:47] <amjjawad> Julien didn't make the annoucement yet
[13:47] <amjjawad> I prefer torrent
[13:47] <dr-lee> i am not using ptopical discs anymore
[13:48] <dr-lee> i like torrent for linux iso downloads too
[13:48] <amjjawad> USB is faster
[13:48] <amjjawad> and I came to know that when booting from USB, the problem with the live session is not there
[13:48] <dr-lee> i ve heardt that torrent download is secure becauase there is a corrupted file check with torrent
[13:48] <amjjawad> I mean when u hit try lubuntu, it works ONLY from LiveUSB
[13:48] <dr-lee> so no further checksum checking needed
[13:49] <dr-lee> you cant burn it ?
[13:49] <amjjawad> Yes, I heard that too. I mean read it. However, checking md5sum shouldn't take more than 1min
[13:49] <amjjawad> LiveUSB = use UNetbootin :)
[13:49] <dr-lee> yeah
[13:50] <amjjawad> I can't wait :D
[13:50] <dr-lee> but checkin mD5 is only a good idea when you do veryfaying the ckescum file first
[13:50] <amjjawad> better safe than sorry
[13:50] <dr-lee> you need to ferify the authenciuty of the checksum file
[13:50] <dr-lee> yeah
[13:50] <amjjawad> I always advise to check it first
[13:50] <silverlightning> always nice to have it verified
[13:51] <dr-lee> there was an attack on kernel.org !!!
[13:51] <amjjawad> yes, always nice indeed
[13:51] <dr-lee> you ve heardt about that ?
[13:51] <amjjawad> really? from who?
[13:51] <dr-lee> i guess from cia
[13:51] <amjjawad> what?
[13:51] <silverlightning> if it doesn't come out right, you at least have an inkling about weird troubles
[13:51] <amjjawad> why is that?
[13:51] <dr-lee> yes
[13:51] <dr-lee> they hacked kernel.org
[13:51] <dr-lee> but no problomo
[13:52] <dr-lee> thanks to git everything is decentralized :)
[13:52] <amjjawad> idk really
[13:52] <dr-lee> fucking lamers -  fuck you all ;)
[13:53] <dr-lee> even i am on linux i am very concerned about security
[13:53] <amjjawad> let's keep the f word out :)
[13:53] <dr-lee> sorry
[13:53] <amjjawad> it's ok
[13:53] <amjjawad> well, why to worry?
[13:53] <dr-lee> but you are right
[13:53] <dr-lee> dont worry
[13:53] <amjjawad> if u know what u r doing, don't be worry
[13:53] <amjjawad> I mean download from terminal or synaptic
[13:53] <amjjawad> don't go to weird websites, etc
[13:53] <dr-lee> as i said, thanks git everything is so decentralized that no cia and no other secret service can attack the linux and opensource world
[13:54] <amjjawad> hahahahaha
[13:54] <dr-lee> ;)
[13:54] <amjjawad> if they want to attack, they will ;)
[13:54] <amjjawad> if u r in the safe side, don't worry
[13:54] <dr-lee> then they have to change all downloaded git repros
[13:55] <dr-lee> many thousands to millions git pulls
[13:55] <dr-lee> and then they have to hack it
[13:55] <amjjawad> COME ON Julien ... can't wait :D
[13:55] <dr-lee> hehehe
[13:55] <amjjawad> don't worry about hacking :D
[13:55] <dr-lee> i am allways a lil paranoid
[13:55] <amjjawad> hahahahah
[13:55] <amjjawad> not more than me ;)
[13:55] <amjjawad> but I don't pay attention to these stuff
[13:55] <dr-lee> like any other serious linux guy ;)
[13:56] <amjjawad> Like any other serious "windows" guy :P
[13:56] <dr-lee> no, the windows guys arent concerned
[13:56] <dr-lee> like sony user lol
[13:56] <amjjawad> hahahaha
[13:56] <dr-lee> sony was attacked yesterday again hahahaha
[13:56] <amjjawad> ops
[13:56] <dr-lee> yep
[13:57] <amjjawad> well, I'm a poor guy with two old PCs :P
[13:57] <dr-lee> i am using old pcs too
[13:57] <amjjawad> how old?
[13:57] <dr-lee> q9950 ....intel quad 4 x 3 ghz and 12 mb cache...maybe 4 years old
[13:58] <dr-lee> and a 4 years old dual core intel laptop
[13:58] <amjjawad> I'm having P4 with 512RAM and 2G RAM the othre one
[13:58] <amjjawad> mine r 6 years I guess
[13:58] <dr-lee> no problem.....
[13:58] <dr-lee> :)
[13:58] <amjjawad> but really who cares? with Linux, I find it fast :D
[13:59] <amjjawad> we have a loptop here, HP core i5 with Win7
[13:59] <amjjawad> IT IS SO SLOW ... :/
[13:59] <ahma> Newest lubuntu not out yet?
[13:59] <amjjawad> If it's mine, I would format and install Linux
[13:59] <amjjawad> ahma, let me check :)
[13:59] <dr-lee> ;)
[14:00] <dr-lee> have to clean my rooms
[14:00] <dr-lee> c u in 2 hours ;)
[14:01] <amjjawad> ok
[14:01] <amjjawad> cya
[14:01] <ahma> Im now loading ubuntu via torrent, cant find lubuntu yet
[14:02] <amjjawad> yep, I guess it's not there yet
[14:03] <ahma> Im going to do clean install from cd to newer and to old laptop so I download both
[14:03] <amjjawad> just make sure to use torrent as much as u can
[14:03] <amjjawad> keep seeding :D
[14:05] <amjjawad> looks like the website is down or am I the only one?
[14:06] <ahma> I kinda hit and run because I do a clean install to that old laptop wich is downloading too
[14:18] <czz> lubuntu site is crawling
[14:18] <amjjawad> it's down I guess
[14:18] <amjjawad> I'm checking now again
[14:19] <silverlightning> anyone in the oneric?
[14:19] <silverlightning> I was suspecting a few updates yesterday and last night
[14:20] <silverlightning> I have none in update manager?
[14:20] <czz> not seeing 11.10 on the site
[14:20] <silverlightning> should I worry about it?
[14:20] <silverlightning> it should be launched
[14:21] <czz> They give a date, but never a time. :)
[14:21] <silverlightning> I have the isobuild from a few days ago
[14:21] <silverlightning> like moday or tuesday
[14:21] <silverlightning> true
[14:22] <silverlightning> I am very happy with 11.10
[14:22] <ahma> Ubuntu is out, lubuntu not yet
[14:22] <silverlightning> it has all the tiny stuff I missed in 04 lol
[14:22] <silverlightning> I see
[14:23] <silverlightning> I hope the last daily builds will update nicely
[14:23] <silverlightning> I haven't had it confirmed by the experts yet
[14:25] <silverlightning> even on newer systems lubuntu has a few advantages
[14:25] <silverlightning> depending on hardware
[14:29] <amjjawad> I'm out too ... CYA all :)
[14:29] <czz> i should download ubuntu via torrent to help seed :_
[14:29] <czz> my new connection can def. handle it
[15:31] <wxl> wow looks like i misssed the visit from the tin foil hat club
[15:33] <czz> ?
[15:34] <wxl> 13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> there was an attack on kernel.org !!!
[15:34] <wxl> 13:Oct:11|06:51 < amjjawad:#lubuntu> yes, always nice indeed
[15:34] <wxl> 13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> you ve heardt about that ?
[15:34] <wxl> 13:Oct:11|06:51 < amjjawad:#lubuntu> really? from who?
[15:34] <wxl> 13:Oct:11|06:51 < dr-lee:#lubuntu> i guess from cia
[15:35] <wxl> the man is after our kernels.
[15:35] <dr-lee> hehehe
[15:35] <wxl> :)
[15:35] <dr-lee> its not a secret
[15:35] <dr-lee> some one tried to hack kernel.org
[15:35] <wxl> THAT i believe
[15:35] <dr-lee> and the only institution that would do such thing is the cia
[15:36] <dr-lee> or another secret service
[15:36] <dr-lee> look, the united states of america do have access to all closed soft and hardware
[15:36] <dr-lee> that was invented or produced in the united states
[15:36] <dr-lee> this is us law
[15:37] <dr-lee> the only systems they dont have access to is linux based systems
[15:38] <dr-lee> so, it is quite important for the united states to have military, politcal, finacial and technical control - thats the only way they think they can defend their freedom
[15:39] <dr-lee> so, they had to hack the linux kernel, which they couldnt because its not stored or controlled by one central instance
[15:40] <dr-lee> i am quite stupid, but i really cant imagine why any one else would try to hack the linux kernel
[15:42] <dr-lee> @wxl yes, i really would like to wrap myself in gold foil and wear a gold foil hat....just to get some protection against eletronic waves (electro smog) and radiation from space (neutrinos)
[15:42] <meetingology> dr-lee: Error: "wxl" is not a valid command.
[15:43] <dr-lee> hehehe
[15:43] <dr-lee> i am quite astonished that wxl knew i would like to weak tin foil hats hehehehe
[15:43] <dr-lee> wear
[16:40] <wxl> lubuntu.net is down?
[16:40] <IAmNotThatGuy> wxl, slow. Yes
[16:41] <IAmNotThatGuy> phillw, Ping Gilir
[16:41] <wxl> maybe there's somewhere else i can fnid a hq lubuntu logo, IAmNotThatGuy ?
[16:42] <KM0201> google images?
[16:42] <wxl> bah ok
[16:43] <wxl> pulls up a bunch of shitty ubuntu crap
[16:43] <KM0201> hmm
[16:43] <wxl> at least if i look for large
[16:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> You wont be finding the best. I forgot the developer's name
[16:43] <IAmNotThatGuy> Lemme find him
[16:45] <wxl> largest i find is 300x300 :/
[16:55] <wxl> i wanna lubuntu sticker
[16:55] <KM0201> hmm
[16:56] <wxl> like http://www.unixstickers.com/kubuntu_linux_os_sticker
[16:56] <wxl> oh there is one now
[16:56] <KM0201> hmm, i don't know if there's Lubuntu ones available yet
[16:56] <wxl> nevermind :D
[16:56] <KM0201> link?
[16:57] <wxl> http://www.unixstickers.com/lubuntu_linux_sticker?filter_name=lubuntu
[16:57] <wxl> it's on a mac, too!
[16:57] <KM0201> lol
[16:57] <wxl> i'm intent on making an lubuntu-on-apple sticker
[16:59] <KM0201> I've been thinking of putting one of these on my NAS...  http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/5b43/
[16:59] <KM0201> i like that "Linux Inside" one
[16:59] <wxl> so we does lubuntu use plymouth instead of lxdm for a session manager? make it consistent with ubuntu?
[17:00] <wxl> heh, yep
[17:00] <bioterror> what?
[17:00] <bioterror> plymouth = plymouth, LXDM = desktop manager
[17:00] <wxl> oops
[17:00] <wxl> sorry autopilot there
[17:00] <wxl> lxsession
[17:06] <KM0201> has the lubuntu 11.10 final ISO been uploaded yet?
[17:10] <bioterror> http://fi.releases.ubuntu.com/ doesnt look good
[17:11] <czz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/11.10
[17:11] <bioterror> cdimage.ubuntu.com is really jammed
[17:12] <bioterror> I bet Lonestar has something to do with that
[17:12] <KM0201> i'm trying to find a Lubuntu image
[17:12] <KM0201> none of those links have lubuntu
[17:14] <KM0201> oh, i found it now.
[17:16] <KM0201> dang, no peers on the i386 torrent
[17:29] <Kutakizukari> I just upgraded from lubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 and now the WIFI BCM4318 to connect to the internet is not working. I only have a Verizon Hotspot to connect to the internet with but I have Win7 that can get files. How do I get the Wifi working again on Compaq presario V2000?
[17:30] <KM0201> 4318... did that use B43 or STA? (i'm trying to look now, but.. ubuntu's sites are crawling)
[17:30] <Kutakizukari> B43
[17:30] <KM0201> http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[17:30] <KM0201> download that
[17:31] <KM0201> http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
[17:31] <KM0201> and that
[17:31] <KM0201> after you download them, put them in your home folder on Ubuntu (i'm assuming you're on 7 right now.
[17:32] <KM0201> once those files are in your home folder
[17:32] <KM0201> run these 3 commands in a terminal individually....
[17:32] <KM0201> tar xfvj broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
[17:32] <KM0201> sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[17:32] <KM0201> sudo b43-fwcutter --unsupported -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o
[17:32] <KM0201> (might be easiest to copy those to a text file, as you're bound to screw up if yout ry typing them)
[17:33] <KM0201> once that is done... go to additional drivers under menu/system tools, and activate the b43 driver, then restart
[17:33] <KM0201> and you should have wireless
[17:34] <Kutakizukari> KM0201: Will try, thank you for the help!
[17:34] <KM0201> no problem.... couple key things.
[17:34] <KM0201> 1... make sure those two files that you downloaded
[17:35] <KM0201> are in your home folder (unless you know how to CD w/ the terminal, etc.. i wrote that lie you were  a newb)
[17:35] <KM0201> it's pretty easy to do though
[17:42] <czz> dling 11.10 :)
[17:42] <czz> Need to backup before
[17:54] <Kutakizukari> KM0201: And we have WIFI, again thank you for the help!
[17:55] <Kutakizukari> Lubuntu Rules!!!! lol
[17:55] <KM0201> Kutakizukari: no problem
[17:55] <JohnDoe_71Rus> czz: wait some weeks :)
[17:56] <KM0201> i love lubuntu
[17:58] <Kutakizukari> KM0201: Yeah running it on a Compaq Presario V2000, much faster than any other OS I have tried on it.
[17:58] <KM0201> yeah, on something that old, i imagine so.
[18:05] <gilir> if people have difficulties to download the ISOs, there is a mirror available in France : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/11.10/
[18:13] <bioterror> gilir, congratulations for a few years hard work ;)
[18:13] <bioterror> gilir, now it really happened
[18:22] <KM0201> a few years huh?
[18:23] <KM0201> didn't think lubuntu had been around quite that long
[18:27] <gilir> bioterror, it's a success for everyone in the team :)
[18:29] <KM0201> gilir: were yout he one who started lubuntu?.. if so, out of curiosity, what prompted you to do it?
[18:31] <gilir> KM0201, not started, but I was involved early
[18:32] <gilir> KM0201, and my main goal was to have an OS for my eeePC 701 :)
[18:32] <KM0201> i see
[18:35] <jorgechp> Hi, is lubuntu 11.10 relased yet?
[18:35] <KM0201> yes
[18:35] <KM0201> the ubuntu sites are just really really slow right now due to traffic
[18:35] <KM0201> use the torrents
[18:36] <Unit193> And seed for others
[18:36] <KM0201> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent    --- that's the 32bit torrent if you want it
[18:36] <KM0201> well yeah, that should go w/o saying
[18:36] <jorgechp> Unit193:  of course ;)
[18:36] <jorgechp> KM0201: ok, thanks
[18:49] <adam61> hi, wondering if anyone knows why i can't get sound from my browsers.. thanks
[18:50] <adam61> no sound from either chrome or firefox.. mp3s work fine
[18:50] <bioterror> can you get sound from media player for example?
[18:50] <adam61> hi bioterror, yes that's fine, it's just my browsers
[18:51] <bioterror> I really really cannot figure it out
[18:51] <adam61> that's ok, thanks anyways
[18:51] <czz> adam61, what browser?
[18:51] <adam61> hi czz, firefox and chrome
[18:51] <adam61> neither has any sound
[18:52] <czz> adam61, You have the latest flash installed?
[18:52] <KM0201> sudo service vsftpd stop
[18:52] <adam61> yes, i have tried installing every version of flash i could find
[18:52] <KM0201> lol, woops
[18:52] <czz> adam61, What version do you have installed now?
[18:53] <haemogoblin> evening
[18:53] <haemogoblin> KM0201: Hows it going mate
[18:53] <KM0201> haemogoblin: just about done upgrading my server to 11.10
[18:53] <adam61> czz, i haven't tried anything for a few months now, can't remember where to go to check that
[18:53] <KM0201> i'll probably do my desktop tonight
[18:53] <haemogoblin> Cool
[18:54] <KM0201> well, i didn't really upgrade, i clean installed
[18:54] <haemogoblin> My new fan arrived today, just installed it and the machine is SOO much quieter
[18:54] <KM0201> but.. its just about done
[18:54] <haemogoblin> Before it was headache inducing :P
[18:55] <czz> adam61, http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
[18:55] <czz> scroll to the bottom and in the gray box you'll see your version installed.
[18:55] <adam61> k thanks
[18:56] <bioterror> adam61, does your browsers play mp3's for example?
[18:56] <bioterror> or is it just flash?
[18:56] <adam61> no there's no sound at all from the browsers
[18:56] <bioterror> that's just really weird :)
[18:56] <KM0201> hmm do you have pavucontrol installed?
[18:57] <KM0201> if so.. start a nice, long youtube video, and open pavucontrol, and see if by chance your browsers volume si all the way down
[18:57] <adam61> czz, this is the version it says i have 11,0,1,152
[18:57] <adam61> bioterror, ya it's frustrating being without sound for months lol
[18:58] <czz> have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling?
[18:59] <adam61> czz, ya i tried that soo many times, with all my flash installers and also browsers, i tried chomium, everything
[18:59] <adam61> i gave up and haven't tried anything now for about four months
[19:00] <adam61> i'm pretty much a novice with linux though
[19:01] <adam61> is there a way to set your sound mixer to play certain applications and not others? how would i locate this
[19:01] <czz> KM0201, Anyone on that torrent?
[19:02] <KM0201> not at the moment, i'm upgrading my server, soon as i get it up,i'll start seeding again
[19:03] <adam61> czz, do u know if i'm on the best channel to ask about this? is there a better one, like should i try #ubuntu, or a beginner one?
[19:03] <czz> adam61, try #ubuntu
[19:03] <adam61> ok thanks i'll give it a try
[19:04] <KM0201> it sounds like a settings issue somewhere, because sound is working other thant he browsers
[19:04] <KM0201> thats why i suggested pavucontrol
[19:04] <bioterror> adam61, everything is in alsamixer maxed out and unmuted?
[19:08] <haemogoblin> my update manager is telling me ubuntu 11.10 is availible..
[19:08] <haemogoblin> but i'm using lubuntu
[19:08] <haemogoblin> :/
[19:08] <KM0201> well, it always does that i think
[19:08] <haemogoblin> Will it tell me when there is a lubuntu update?
[19:09] <KM0201> honestly, i dunno
[19:09] <haemogoblin> lol
[19:09] <KM0201> i don't ever upgrade, always clean install
[19:09] <KM0201> lol
[19:09] <haemogoblin> thats just ODD
[19:09] <KM0201> eh, i got screwed by an MS upgrade a long, long, long time ago.
[19:09] <haemogoblin> install Lubuntu but update to ubuntu!
[19:10] <KM0201> since then, i just always clean install an OS (even though ubuntu will probably be upgraded just fine)
[19:10] <KM0201> well, no its really not odd, because lubuntu, uses ubuntu repositories
[19:10] <KM0201> , etc.
[19:10] <KM0201> so it sees an upgrade now.
[19:10] <bkerensa> someone should show me some screenshots of lubuntu 11.10 when they get a chance
[19:10] <bkerensa> I wanna see it
[19:10] <bkerensa> :D
[19:10] <adam61> bioterror, sorry didn't see your post till now; everything in alsamixer is unmuted and maxed except the mic.
[19:10] <haemogoblin> Yes but if i did the upgrade
[19:11] <haemogoblin> would i be booting in to ubuntu or lubuntu after the upgrade?
[19:11] <haemogoblin> got me a bit confuzzled
[19:11] <adam61> KM0201, what is pavucontrol? should i do sudo service vsftpd stop?
[19:12] <KM0201> adam61: no, that was an accident on my part (vsftpd)... i should have been typing in a shell for my server
[19:12] <Kurdistan> congrats the lubuntu team for there release.
[19:12] <KM0201> pavucontrol, is a volume adjuster for pulse audio... i've generally found when i'm having weird sound behaviors, i can track it down using it.
[19:12] <adam61> oh ok haa
[19:13] <Kurdistan> pavucontrol is for controlling pulseuadio
[19:13] <KM0201> right
[19:13] <adam61> pulseaudio isn't in Lubuntu though is it? i thought they did away with that
[19:13] <KM0201> (i'm of course assuming he has pulse audio installed)
[19:13] <KM0201> adam61: i always install it.
[19:13] <haemogoblin> i did notice in lubuntu there's no real audio control panel
[19:13] <Kurdistan> I am pulseaudio fan also.
[19:14] <KM0201> not totally necessary of course, but.. my laptop always acts weird using alsa.. once i install/configure pulse audio, it works flawlessly
[19:14] <Kurdistan> if you ever use external mic with only alsa, without pulseaudio it is difficult to get it work.
[19:14] <adam61> i had big problems with conflicts between pulseaudio and my tascam interface, so that's a major reason i'm using Lubuntu, is because it's default doesn't use pulseaudio, or so i understand it
[19:14] <KM0201> Kurdistan: yup
[19:14] <adam61> ya i need alsa
[19:14] <Kurdistan> KM0201: remember that pulseaudio is like frontend for alsa
[19:15] <KM0201> eh.. .i'm not so sure about that, but.. ok.
[19:16] <KM0201> hmm
[19:16] <KM0201> issue 1 w/ server..lol
[19:16] <KM0201> well, hold on, might have been a repository issue.
[19:18] <KM0201> hmm, firefly isn't in ubuntu server edition
[19:35] <adam61> anyone have any ideas about why i can't get sound from my browsers?
[19:35] <Kurdistan> adam61: you have pcm disabled
[19:35] <silverlightning> what kind of skype should  I get
[19:35] <silverlightning> ?
[19:35] <Kurdistan> or on zero
[19:36] <Kurdistan> adam61: open terminal. copy/paste: alsamixer
[19:36] <Kurdistan> you will see pcm
[19:36] <Kurdistan> put it on the highest
[19:36] <adam61> Kurdistan, hi thanks, i'll try that
[19:37] <KM0201> who on earth renamed mt-daapd   to forked-daapd   lol
[19:37] <silverlightning> is skype still used?
[19:37] <Kurdistan> adam61: you can install gnome alsa mixer.
[19:37] <Kurdistan> it is gui for alsamixer
[19:37] <Kurdistan> easier
[19:37] <silverlightning> I used to have this tiny app for skype
[19:37] <KM0201> silverlightning: why wouldn't it be?
[19:37] <Kurdistan> silverlightning: yeah skype works.
[19:38] <silverlightning> all I find in package manager is a pidgin plugin, that requires skype app to run
[19:39] <adam61> Kurdistan, it says pcm was at 100 already
[19:39] <haemogoblin> Hey guys, what package to i need to install to get java working?
[19:39] <Kurdistan> silverlightning: only install skype.
[19:39] <Kurdistan> adam61 still does not work?
[19:39] <silverlightning> haemogoblin: I think it comes with the two restricted packages in manager
[19:39] <Kurdistan> is it flash that do not work?
[19:39] <adam61> it was already set at 100, so i didn't change anything and it still doesn't work
[19:39] <silverlightning> Kurdistan: you did it from the Skype homepage+
[19:39] <Kurdistan> adam61: do you have hdmi?
[19:39] <haemogoblin> do you happen to know the name of them?
[19:40] <Kurdistan> silverlightning: I do not use lubuntu/ubuntu.
[19:40] <Kurdistan> but there should be in the repos if you activate
[19:40] <haemogoblin> i'm installing openjdk atm
[19:40] <adam61> Kurdistan, it's more than flash, it's everything associated with the browsers. i don't think i have hdmi - i don't see it in alsamixer
[19:40] <silverlightning> I think I have repos activated for restricted and third party software even
[19:41] <silverlightning> haemogoblin: I search for #lubuntu#, and they are easily found then
[19:41] <silverlightning> well, lubuntu not the ##
[19:42] <Kurdistan> adam61: lspci | grep -i audio
[19:42] <haemogoblin> thanks
[19:43] <haemogoblin> i forgot to enable restricted sources
[19:43] <haemogoblin> DOH!
[19:43] <silverlightning> lol
[19:43] <silverlightning> a classic
[19:43] <adam61> Kurdistan: 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[19:44] <Kurdistan> adam61: yes you have hdmi
[19:44] <adam61> k is that good?
[19:44] <Kurdistan> adam61: :P joking. you have exactly same spec like me.
[19:44] <adam61> cool
[19:45] <adam61> do you have an idea as to what my issue is?
[19:45] <Kurdistan> adam61: did it work before you installed pulseaudio?
[19:45] <haemogoblin> silverlightning: i can't seem to see restricted repo's
[19:45] <haemogoblin> :/
[19:45] <Kurdistan> adam61: I have never had any sound problem with linux in my 2 years if it
[19:46] <haemogoblin> oh wait..think i might have cracked it :D
[19:46] <adam61> Kurdistan: i don't believe that i did intall pulseaudio; i think i did have sound at one point almost a year ago when i first got linux, but it caused crashes etc then just stopped working
[19:50] <silverlightning> http://imagebin.org/178858
[19:50] <adam61> Kurdistan: thanks for your help, this is taking up waaaaaaay too much time and is way too frustrating for me to handle. i'm gonna go drink.
[19:51] <adam61> thanks again
[19:51] <silverlightning> haemogoblin: oh good, I found them straight away,
[19:52] <Kurdistan> adam61: test install pulseaudio.
[19:52] <Kurdistan> adam61: pavucontrol
[19:53] <silverlightning> haemogoblin: there are only two restricted packages in synaptic, and it is the best way to add all this stuff
[19:53] <silverlightning> medibuntu mess stuff up
[19:53] <silverlightning> I learned it the hard way
[19:54] <haemogoblin> Is there any quick way of finding out the cpu temp?
[19:55] <haemogoblin> i just installed a new fan and was wondering what temperature the machines running at
[19:55] <silverlightning> haemogoblin: system profiler and benchmark
[19:55] <haemogoblin> cheers mate!
[19:55] <silverlightning> sensors are usually detected
[19:56] <wxl> there's a temp panel app haemogoblin
[19:56] <haemogoblin> nothing is appreaing in the sensor section :S
[19:56] <silverlightning> yes I have had that happen to me too
[19:57] <silverlightning> mostly on old computers
[19:57] <haemogoblin> This is a mini itx board
[19:57] <silverlightning> it does appear sometimes thought, a bit odd really
[19:57] <haemogoblin> it could just be the new fan i bought
[19:57] <silverlightning> new laptops usually have several sensors detected
[19:57] <haemogoblin> :S
[19:58] <silverlightning> it might be a driver thing
[19:58] <haemogoblin> temperature plugin comes up with NA
[19:58] <haemogoblin> so i'm guessing it's just a glitch
[20:00] <haemogoblin> silverlightning: Hey thanks, adding those restricted addon's did it
[20:00] <haemogoblin> not the temp...
[20:00] <haemogoblin> but got java running
[20:00] <haemogoblin> :D
[20:00] <haemogoblin> Now i can minecraft!! woohoo!
[20:01] <wxl> oh gawd
[20:01] <wxl> so'k, i couldn't live without ltris
[20:03] <silverlightning> haemogoblin: keep check the temp sensors in system profiler now and then still
[20:03] <silverlightning> haemogoblin: it does kick in after a while, might be drivers or something that doesn't probe correctly
[20:06] <haemogoblin> I'll keep an eye on it
[20:08] <silverlightning> are you in oneric?
[20:09] <silverlightning> any skype at all in package manager?
[20:09] <silverlightning> anyone clever with apt-get in package manager?
[20:22] <KM0201> silverlightening amazes me
[20:22] <KM0201> he won't download a package from skype.com  but he uses some jacked up repository like medibuntu w/o question...lol
[20:23] <wxl> hahahha
[20:24] <wxl> holy hell i'm so thankful we use ubuntu for our server
[20:24] <wxl> cuz this piece of malware my co-worker has is a doozy
[20:24] <wxl> (windows of course)
[20:31] <KM0201> lol
[20:32] <wxl> it's actually an amalgamation of viruses, rootkits, trojans, etc. etc. etc.
[20:32] <wxl> and naturally it's hacked the HELL out of the registry
[20:32] <wxl> i HATE the registry
[20:32] <wxl> worst configuration system idea EVER
[20:33] <KM0201> mant his is irritating me
[20:33] <silverlightning> hi
[20:33] <wxl> KM0201: off topic conversations? :D
[20:33] <silverlightning> are you in lubuntu KM0201?
[20:34] <KM0201> wxl: lol, no.. i'm trying to get rhythmbox to see my mediatomb share, and it's just not co-operating.. trust me, my ignore button works well... (i use it at work all the time).. off topic doesn't bother me
[20:34] <KM0201> silverlightning: yes, of course
[20:34] <silverlightning> I am looking for skype in package manager, and only find plugins that need skype to be relevant
[20:34] <KM0201> silverlightning: you won't find it
[20:34] <wxl> heh
[20:34] <silverlightning> oh
[20:35] <silverlightning> it might be added?
[20:35] <KM0201> no, i twont
[20:35] <wxl> heck no
[20:35] <wxl> it's the most non-free thing ever
[20:35] <wxl> it's like anti-free
[20:35] <KM0201> those are just old packages most likely
[20:35] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[20:35] <silverlightning> I don't care much, just need it
[20:35] <KM0201> silverlightning: if you want skype, download the deb from skype.com
[20:35] <silverlightning> anyone good with compiling
[20:35] <wxl> tho i disagree with their suggestions and recommend jitsi as a general voip option
[20:35] <KM0201> what do you need to compile?
[20:36] <silverlightning> I know of a package for debian based puppy linux
[20:36] <KM0201> a package for what?
[20:36] <wxl> then it's likely a deb
[20:36] <wxl> in which case you just run dpkg on it
[20:36] <KM0201> silverlightning: you have an amazing ability to ask a question, that doesn't make any sense... if you want skype, go to skype.com, and download th e.deb file.. why on earth would you try using a package for puppy?  they have ubuntu packages on their site
[20:37] <silverlightning> good
[20:37] <wxl> here's how to install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_downloaded_packages
[20:37] <KM0201> it's almost as easy as an .exe
[20:38] <wxl> hah
[20:38] <silverlightning> it's just I noticed this puppy where ubuntu repositories can be activated and packages downloaded
[20:38] <wxl> and most likely with less viruses ;)
[20:38]  * KM0201 sighs
[20:38] <wxl> KM0201: breathe in
[20:38] <wxl> KM0201: breathe out
[20:38]  * silverlightning looks sharply at KM0201
[20:38] <wxl> let's break it down, silverlightning
[20:39] <wxl> 1. go to that first link
[20:39] <wxl> 2. follow the instructions
[20:39] <wxl> 3. if it's not obvious how to install, use the second link
[20:39] <wxl> 4. use skype
[20:39] <wxl> 5. love you, bye
[20:39] <KM0201> silverlightning: i'm just trying to grasp this... skype.com has ubuntu packages, yet you're asking how to download a puppy package, and use it on ubuntu.
[20:40] <silverlightning> you just said that, ok ok
[20:40] <wxl> KM0201: btw no experience with mediatomb but have you confirmed that upnp is working?
[20:40] <wxl> i.e. can the box connect to another upnp share
[20:41] <KM0201> wxl: affirmative, i can play my music through xbmc via mediatomb.
[20:41] <wxl> and can another box connect to the mediatomb
[20:41] <wxl> ?
[20:41] <silverlightning> skype turns up in software center
[20:41] <wxl> ah, it's rhythmbox
[20:41] <KM0201> yeah, its a rhythmbox issue
[20:41] <silverlightning> but that is Ubuntu
[20:41] <wxl> just follow the instructions, dude
[20:50]  * phillw asks what the above has to do with lubuntu support? 
[20:51] <KM0201> what?
[20:54] <wxl> phillw: silverlightning wants skype to work in lubuntu
[20:55] <KM0201> wxl: i figure if he wanted details, he would have asked.
[20:56] <wxl> well that and we gave it all to him
[20:56] <KM0201> i'm talking about phillw
[20:56] <phillw> wxl: if you want skype, you use the standard repo for it?
[20:56] <wxl> oh heh
[20:57] <wxl> phillw: i don't, and it's not in the standard repos, but there are instructions on how to acquire it which were given to the person asking
[20:57] <phillw> if you do not, then no one on support can elp you, as you have non-standard install.
[20:57] <KM0201> honestly, i don't think anyone can support him anyway
[20:58] <phillw> wxl: and then the user comes back in asking for support - for something that is not supported? ... do you see the Catch 22?
[20:58] <KM0201> lol
[20:59] <wxl> phillw: what should you say instead? sorry, there's no hope for you?
[20:59] <wxl> i think frankly support is given to use at your own risk
[21:00] <wxl> if you're going to dictate absolutely what can and cannot be used, you've just become another microsoft
[21:00]  * KM0201 agrees
[21:01] <phillw> wxl / KM0201 have you not seen that on the synaptic part? "Sure, use this, but do not ask any of the *buntu Family for support".... Go ask the people who wrote it.
[21:01] <phillw> That is very different to "you cannot use it"
[21:02] <KM0201> phillw: of course i have... this isn't my first rodeo
[21:02] <KM0201> but i also have common sense on the matter
[21:02] <phillw> anyways, IFK - take care :)
[21:02] <KM0201> he wasn't asking how to use skype, he was asking how to install skype
[21:03] <Unit193> Enable partner repo, install Skype
[21:03] <KM0201> apparently, telling someone that is not supported
[21:03] <wxl> he certainly wasn't saying he was having problems with skype
[21:04] <KM0201> with this kind of response, maybe he should have
[21:05] <wxl> kinda hostile frankly
[21:06] <KM0201> some people are that way naturally
[21:08]  * wxl shrugs
[21:12] <KM0201> ha, got it working.
[21:12] <KM0201> pain in the freaking neck though
[21:45] <KM0201> how do you get pcmanfm to show thumbnails?
[21:46] <Unit193> Edit > Preferences > Display
[21:46] <wxl> did u look in edit > pref > display -- at the max size?
[21:46] <wxl> maybe it's too low
[21:46] <KM0201> i thinkt hats the prob
[21:46] <KM0201> adjusting now
[21:48] <KM0201> hmm, no that didn't work either
[21:48] <wxl> i assume they're pngs?
[21:49] <KM0201> well, i was wanting thumbnails for videos
[21:49] <KM0201> pictures is working
[21:49] <wxl> ohhhh
[21:49] <KM0201> sorry, should've been more clear
[21:50] <wxl> looks like not possible in current pcmanfm
[21:50] <wxl> possible plans for the future
[21:50] <KM0201> thats what i kinda figured
[21:50] <KM0201> didn'tthink i was missing anything
[21:50] <KM0201> just hadn't thought about it till now.
[21:52] <wxl> doesn't even look like they have concrete plans for the future http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM_Roadmap
[21:52] <KM0201> yeah, i'm over it
[21:52] <KM0201> its not a huge deal
[21:52] <KM0201> if it was that big of a deal, i'd install Thunar
[21:53] <KM0201> well after getting through the initial daap silliness, my server seems ok now
[21:54] <wxl> btw looks like it could use a feature req http://sourceforge.net/search/?group_id=156956&type_of_search=artifact&group_artifact_id=801864&limit=25&q=video+thumbnail
[21:54] <wxl> http://v.gd/jFKDlN better
[21:54] <wxl> anywho
[21:57] <KM0201> i like how that bug says.. "pcmanfm does not remmber generated thumbnaisl for the picture, *HE* redraw them anew each time
[21:57] <KM0201> lol
[21:57] <KM0201> i'm glad pcmanfm is male... as tempermental as it can be, i was thinking female
[22:00] <wxl> heh
[22:03] <KM0201> ok, i'm now seeding the 32bit ISO.
[22:03] <wxl> yey
[22:03] <KM0201> i've got it throttled a bit right now, when i go to bed, i'll crank it up.
[22:03] <wxl> i dented/tweeted about the new release and how to get it going in ppc :D
[22:04] <amjjawad> Please guys keep seeding
[22:06] <KM0201> if you're on a slow connection, it doesn't matter how much seeding is done