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brandinihttps://twitter.com/#!/packetslave/status/12427041392780902400:03
j4r00tnim using a tegra00:22
phhwhy do you want jaunty oO00:22
j4r00tnhacked my atrix and if I update I can't use webtop00:22
j4r00tnI already acquired all the old repos but I just want the exact packages to that I wont waste space on my phone.00:23
j4r00tnI only did a 6gb partition for linux00:23
phhonly .32 on atrix ?00:23
phhanyway you can still use a recent ubuntu00:24
phhjust need to put the L4T in a chroot00:24
GrueMasterWe have an image this cycle for the Tegra2 based Toshiba AC100.  Runs quite well.00:25
j4r00tnwhere can I get the image?00:25
GrueMasterYou can also use the ubuntu-core image as a base.00:26
GrueMasterThey are currently on cdimage.ubuntu.com00:26
GrueMasterShould be posted tomorrow on ubuntu.com official site.00:26
phh"this cycle" ?00:26
GrueMaster11.10 release.00:27
phhah ok00:27
phhthat assumes a .38 kernel00:27
phhcan't work for j4r00tn00:27
j4r00tnwhere can I get the image??00:27
GrueMasterWell, the core image doesn't assume any kernel.  Just Armv7 support.00:28
phhit assumes fbdev00:28
phhi'm not even sure j4r00tn has that00:28
GrueMasterj4r00tn: The images are on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com.  For Ubuntu Desktop, go to daily-preinstalled.00:28
twbDoes canonical plan to make arm a first-class arch?00:29
j4r00tnprowsing now00:29
phhas far as i can tell it already is00:29
twbHum00:29
twbThen why are the repos on ports.ubuntu.com or whatever it is00:29
j4r00tni think the tegra image should work00:30
GrueMasterWell, we are trying.  As soon as more devices are out there that make sense, we probably will.  Right now, most of the consumer available systems are either closed tablets or development platforms.00:30
phhj4r00tn: if you're on .32, it won't00:30
twbGrueMaster: fair enough, just curious00:30
j4r00tnis there an application that converts normal packages to be compatible with armel00:30
phhj4r00tn: nonsense00:30
twbI guess I'm used to "first-class" as meaning "release critical bugs in this arch, will prevent a release" -- which doesn't make sense in ubuntu land, due to time-based releases00:31
GrueMasterj4r00tn: define "normal"?  All of our packages (with a few exceptions) are built for all arches.00:31
j4r00tnpackages that are not armel compatible00:31
twbGrueMaster: *all* arches?  Even m68k? ;-)00:31
j4r00tni tried a few but they dont seem to run00:31
GrueMastertwb: I just finished testing the release candidate images for the third time this week.00:31
GrueMastertwb: All Ubuntu supported arches.00:32
twbDon't mind me, I'm just rambling00:32
GrueMasterj4r00tn: If you are running a jaunty environment with only armv5 support, you will run into problems.00:32
GrueMasterEven though the processor can handle the armv7 code, without the kernel support, you're hosed.00:33
GrueMasterKind of like trying to run x86_64 code on a system running an i386 kernel.00:33
j4r00tnso what's the best way to avoid having this issue? should i update the kernel? I'm having second thoughts coz the webtop environment might stop working again00:35
phhwell i doubt you're the first guy trying to ask an atrix00:36
phhask them.00:36
GrueMasterOn the Atrix?  I'm not too familiar with that system.00:36
j4r00tnit's the mobile phone by motorola with a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram it runs android on one side and a locked down version of ubuntu when plugged in a dock00:40
GrueMasterI know what it is, I just have no hands-on experience with them.00:40
j4r00tnsorry my bad...00:42
GrueMasterI had heard they were running a form of Ubuntu, but never experienced it.  Also, nVidia was supposed to update their Linux4Tegra to something more recent (L4T is currently Jaunty based).  I have a dev board that I got that came with a Lucid based environment, but it is very specific to this board.00:44
GrueMasterAnd the AC100 is another beast entirely.00:44
twblinux4tegra as in the GPU driver or as in their big blob that is old and crap, apart from happening to contain the GPU driver? :P00:44
phhtwb: old blob00:45
GrueMasterThe sad part about Arm SOC systems is that once the bits leave the SOC, all similarities end, even on systems utilizing the same SOC.00:45
twbBugger that for a game of soldiers00:45
j4r00tnyup it's jaunty that why I sourced the old jaunty repo to do updates and stuff00:46
j4r00tnso will it be pointless if I update to another version other than jaunty?00:46
GrueMasterWhat did the atrix come with?  iirc, it was based on Maverick.00:47
j4r00tnit has nothing in it when I got it i had to install lxterminal and the other apps manually... the only thing it had is nautilus and firefox00:49
j4r00tni think it came with tomoyo01:02
twbtomoyo's an LSM01:04
j4r00tnthen it's probably jaunty01:05
j4r00tnyup it's jaunty (9.04)01:12
brandinidennis ritchie is dead :(01:12
obarthelemyhi. I'm running natty on an arm-based hercules cafe. works globally fine, except at boot I get a blinking curosr at the top left corner, and hav to do ctrl-alt-F1 to get a tty. It would be great if I could also know where to change my keyboard map at bott time instead of manually each time03:03
twbobarthelemy: in lucid, at least, that's a known problem with plymouth on GUI-less installs03:04
twbobarthelemy: to configure your keyboard, dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and/or edit /etc/default/keyboard03:04
obarthelemyok thanks i'll try that for the keyboard.. and for the tty, no solution then ? I tried to hack a inittab, but either I got it worng or it's no longer used03:05
twbWell, I think I work around it by disabling plymouth by brute force03:06
twbin lucid, you can't simply uninstall plymouth due to some silly apt dependencies03:06
twbI don't run non-LTS releases, so I don't know how much of that's applicable to you03:06
obarthelemyok, thanks anyway :-)03:09
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jondoHi ppisati, anything else I can do for bug 871650? Or just wait for jcrigby's tests08:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 871650 in linux ""unable to enumerate USB device" with BeagleBoard-xM" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87165008:10
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ndecogra_: infinity: with gdm we could add 'text' in the bootargs and it would not start the gdm service, hence would not start UI. how can this be done with lightdm?12:46
ogra_shoudl be the same12:47
ogra_else its a bug12:47
ndecok... so it's a bug ;-)12:47
sebjanconfirmed. lightdm.conf does not scan the cmdline args. Adding what gdm.conf used to do here seems to be working for lightdm as well.12:51
ndecogra_: it sounds more a feature than a bug...12:53
ogra_not really12:53
infinityI'm not sure that was ever a widely-advertised feature, but it's still a minor regression I suppose.  File a bug on lightdm.12:57
sebjanok, I'll do that12:58
ndecsebjan: i did13:00
ndecbug 87333413:00
ubot2Launchpad bug 873334 in lightdm "missing support for 'text' command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87333413:00
sebjanok13:01
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ogra_:D13:23
ogra_everyone welcome our new baby ! its an Ocelot !!!13:23
ndeccongrats ;-)13:27
ogra_thanks, its your work too :)13:27
brandiniw00t!!13:39
* brandini apt-get upgrades13:39
brandinihttp://ppa.launchpad.net/tiomap-dev/release/ubuntu/  w00t!13:40
brandinigood work guys!13:41
ndecbrandini: PPA isn't fully ready stil...13:42
brandinibig surprised right :)13:44
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Nekoit's release day isn't it?!16:52
GrueMasterYep.  Happy release day.16:55
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MrCuriousyay!17:20
MrCuriousGuess i know what i will be doing tonight17:21
MrCurious(discovering if omap4 addons is ready for 11.10)17:21
gildeani also upgraded one trim-slice to oneiric17:22
gildeanseems to work ok17:22
gildeansome minor things, but thats mostly due to the rootfs i updated17:22
gildeanalso nvidia beta-drivers seem to work on oneiric for trim-slice17:23
gildeansorry, alpha, not beta17:23
jevinanyone know of a fast mirror in the US that isnt hammered right now?20:32
jevinapt mirror, that is20:32
jevinnvm20:32
jevini forgot kernel.org was back up :)20:33
jevinits "fast enough"20:33
GrueMasterI was going to say mine, but it is internal only.20:34
jevinneeer neeer :-P20:34
jevini should petition my uni to mirror ubuntu20:34
jevinthey (cerias) already mirrors releases20:34
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brandinidoes ubuntu maintain its own kernel source tree?23:52

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