[00:03] <brandini> https://twitter.com/#!/packetslave/status/124270413927809024
[00:22] <j4r00tn> im using a tegra
[00:22] <phh> why do you want jaunty oO
[00:22] <j4r00tn> hacked my atrix and if I update I can't use webtop
[00:23] <j4r00tn> I already acquired all the old repos but I just want the exact packages to that I wont waste space on my phone.
[00:23] <j4r00tn> I only did a 6gb partition for linux
[00:23] <phh> only .32 on atrix ?
[00:24] <phh> anyway you can still use a recent ubuntu
[00:24] <phh> just need to put the L4T in a chroot
[00:25] <GrueMaster> We have an image this cycle for the Tegra2 based Toshiba AC100.  Runs quite well.
[00:25] <j4r00tn> where can I get the image?
[00:26] <GrueMaster> You can also use the ubuntu-core image as a base.
[00:26] <GrueMaster> They are currently on cdimage.ubuntu.com
[00:26] <GrueMaster> Should be posted tomorrow on ubuntu.com official site.
[00:26] <phh> "this cycle" ?
[00:27] <GrueMaster> 11.10 release.
[00:27] <phh> ah ok
[00:27] <phh> that assumes a .38 kernel
[00:27] <phh> can't work for j4r00tn
[00:27] <j4r00tn> where can I get the image??
[00:28] <GrueMaster> Well, the core image doesn't assume any kernel.  Just Armv7 support.
[00:28] <phh> it assumes fbdev
[00:28] <phh> i'm not even sure j4r00tn has that
[00:28] <GrueMaster> j4r00tn: The images are on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com.  For Ubuntu Desktop, go to daily-preinstalled.
[00:29] <twb> Does canonical plan to make arm a first-class arch?
[00:29] <j4r00tn> prowsing now
[00:29] <phh> as far as i can tell it already is
[00:29] <twb> Hum
[00:29] <twb> Then why are the repos on ports.ubuntu.com or whatever it is
[00:30] <j4r00tn> i think the tegra image should work
[00:30] <GrueMaster> Well, we are trying.  As soon as more devices are out there that make sense, we probably will.  Right now, most of the consumer available systems are either closed tablets or development platforms.
[00:30] <phh> j4r00tn: if you're on .32, it won't
[00:30] <twb> GrueMaster: fair enough, just curious
[00:30] <j4r00tn> is there an application that converts normal packages to be compatible with armel
[00:30] <phh> j4r00tn: nonsense
[00:31] <twb> I guess I'm used to "first-class" as meaning "release critical bugs in this arch, will prevent a release" -- which doesn't make sense in ubuntu land, due to time-based releases
[00:31] <GrueMaster> j4r00tn: define "normal"?  All of our packages (with a few exceptions) are built for all arches.
[00:31] <j4r00tn> packages that are not armel compatible
[00:31] <twb> GrueMaster: *all* arches?  Even m68k? ;-)
[00:31] <j4r00tn> i tried a few but they dont seem to run
[00:31] <GrueMaster> twb: I just finished testing the release candidate images for the third time this week.
[00:32] <GrueMaster> twb: All Ubuntu supported arches.
[00:32] <twb> Don't mind me, I'm just rambling
[00:32] <GrueMaster> j4r00tn: If you are running a jaunty environment with only armv5 support, you will run into problems.
[00:33] <GrueMaster> Even though the processor can handle the armv7 code, without the kernel support, you're hosed.
[00:33] <GrueMaster> Kind of like trying to run x86_64 code on a system running an i386 kernel.
[00:35] <j4r00tn> so what's the best way to avoid having this issue? should i update the kernel? I'm having second thoughts coz the webtop environment might stop working again
[00:36] <phh> well i doubt you're the first guy trying to ask an atrix
[00:36] <phh> ask them.
[00:36] <GrueMaster> On the Atrix?  I'm not too familiar with that system.
[00:40] <j4r00tn> it's the mobile phone by motorola with a tegra 2 processor and 1gb ram it runs android on one side and a locked down version of ubuntu when plugged in a dock
[00:40] <GrueMaster> I know what it is, I just have no hands-on experience with them.
[00:42] <j4r00tn> sorry my bad...
[00:44] <GrueMaster> I had heard they were running a form of Ubuntu, but never experienced it.  Also, nVidia was supposed to update their Linux4Tegra to something more recent (L4T is currently Jaunty based).  I have a dev board that I got that came with a Lucid based environment, but it is very specific to this board.
[00:44] <GrueMaster> And the AC100 is another beast entirely.
[00:44] <twb> linux4tegra as in the GPU driver or as in their big blob that is old and crap, apart from happening to contain the GPU driver? :P
[00:45] <phh> twb: old blob
[00:45] <GrueMaster> The sad part about Arm SOC systems is that once the bits leave the SOC, all similarities end, even on systems utilizing the same SOC.
[00:45] <twb> Bugger that for a game of soldiers
[00:46] <j4r00tn> yup it's jaunty that why I sourced the old jaunty repo to do updates and stuff
[00:46] <j4r00tn> so will it be pointless if I update to another version other than jaunty?
[00:47] <GrueMaster> What did the atrix come with?  iirc, it was based on Maverick.
[00:49] <j4r00tn> it has nothing in it when I got it i had to install lxterminal and the other apps manually... the only thing it had is nautilus and firefox
[01:02] <j4r00tn> i think it came with tomoyo
[01:04] <twb> tomoyo's an LSM
[01:05] <j4r00tn> then it's probably jaunty
[01:12] <j4r00tn> yup it's jaunty (9.04)
[01:12] <brandini> dennis ritchie is dead :(
[03:03] <obarthelemy> hi. I'm running natty on an arm-based hercules cafe. works globally fine, except at boot I get a blinking curosr at the top left corner, and hav to do ctrl-alt-F1 to get a tty. It would be great if I could also know where to change my keyboard map at bott time instead of manually each time
[03:04] <twb> obarthelemy: in lucid, at least, that's a known problem with plymouth on GUI-less installs
[03:04] <twb> obarthelemy: to configure your keyboard, dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and/or edit /etc/default/keyboard
[03:05] <obarthelemy> ok thanks i'll try that for the keyboard.. and for the tty, no solution then ? I tried to hack a inittab, but either I got it worng or it's no longer used
[03:06] <twb> Well, I think I work around it by disabling plymouth by brute force
[03:06] <twb> in lucid, you can't simply uninstall plymouth due to some silly apt dependencies
[03:06] <twb> I don't run non-LTS releases, so I don't know how much of that's applicable to you
[03:09] <obarthelemy> ok, thanks anyway :-)
[08:10] <jondo> Hi ppisati, anything else I can do for bug 871650? Or just wait for jcrigby's tests
[08:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 871650 in linux ""unable to enumerate USB device" with BeagleBoard-xM" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871650
[12:46] <ndec> ogra_: infinity: with gdm we could add 'text' in the bootargs and it would not start the gdm service, hence would not start UI. how can this be done with lightdm?
[12:47] <ogra_> shoudl be the same
[12:47] <ogra_> else its a bug
[12:47] <ndec> ok... so it's a bug ;-)
[12:51] <sebjan> confirmed. lightdm.conf does not scan the cmdline args. Adding what gdm.conf used to do here seems to be working for lightdm as well.
[12:53] <ndec> ogra_: it sounds more a feature than a bug...
[12:53] <ogra_> not really
[12:57] <infinity> I'm not sure that was ever a widely-advertised feature, but it's still a minor regression I suppose.  File a bug on lightdm.
[12:58] <sebjan> ok, I'll do that
[13:00] <ndec> sebjan: i did
[13:00] <ndec> bug 873334
[13:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 873334 in lightdm "missing support for 'text' command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873334
[13:01] <sebjan> ok
[13:23] <ogra_> :D
[13:23] <ogra_> everyone welcome our new baby ! its an Ocelot !!!
[13:27] <ndec> congrats ;-)
[13:27] <ogra_> thanks, its your work too :)
[13:39] <brandini> w00t!!
[13:39]  * brandini apt-get upgrades
[13:40] <brandini> http://ppa.launchpad.net/tiomap-dev/release/ubuntu/  w00t!
[13:41] <brandini> good work guys!
[13:42] <ndec> brandini: PPA isn't fully ready stil...
[13:44] <brandini> big surprised right :)
[16:52] <Neko> it's release day isn't it?!
[16:55] <GrueMaster> Yep.  Happy release day.
[17:20] <MrCurious> yay!
[17:21] <MrCurious> Guess i know what i will be doing tonight
[17:21] <MrCurious> (discovering if omap4 addons is ready for 11.10)
[17:22] <gildean> i also upgraded one trim-slice to oneiric
[17:22] <gildean> seems to work ok
[17:22] <gildean> some minor things, but thats mostly due to the rootfs i updated
[17:23] <gildean> also nvidia beta-drivers seem to work on oneiric for trim-slice
[17:23] <gildean> sorry, alpha, not beta
[20:32] <jevin> anyone know of a fast mirror in the US that isnt hammered right now?
[20:32] <jevin> apt mirror, that is
[20:32] <jevin> nvm
[20:33] <jevin> i forgot kernel.org was back up :)
[20:33] <jevin> its "fast enough"
[20:34] <GrueMaster> I was going to say mine, but it is internal only.
[20:34] <jevin> neeer neeer :-P
[20:34] <jevin> i should petition my uni to mirror ubuntu
[20:34] <jevin> they (cerias) already mirrors releases
[23:52] <brandini> does ubuntu maintain its own kernel source tree?