| xannen | omg 11.10 won't release for another day! :( | 04:55 |
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| sagaci | yeah | 05:30 |
| sagaci | Canonical should move to an in-the-future timezone | 05:30 |
| xannen | hi sagaci <3 | 05:45 |
| airtonix | <3 is pretty awesome | 07:26 |
| airtonix | gnome-shell that is | 07:26 |
| gggs | I don't know, this might sound like blasphemy, but I think I'll either stick with 11.04 or move to Xubuntu | 07:50 |
| blahdeblah | gggs: My blasphemy is that i'll move back to Debian and sit on GNOME 2 for as long as they support it ;-) | 07:51 |
| gggs | blahdeblah: Nice to know I'm not alone, I'm a focus-follows-mouse, window shading, oldschool-X kindof person myself | 07:52 |
| blahdeblah | I never said that! :-) | 07:53 |
| airtonix | i'm a "wish i could customise my desktop-environ without compiling C code" kinda guy | 07:53 |
| gggs | blahdeblah: I meant `staying with gnome2 or similar' | 07:54 |
| blahdeblah | gggs: I hate focus-follows-mouse, and i never use window shading. I use a GNOME 2 that's vanilla other than replacing their window manager with icewm. I just love the full control over keyboard shortcuts it provides. | 07:54 |
| gggs | blahdeblah: I even use focus-follows-mouse (aka `sloppy focus') on Windows! Multiple desktops + winshading means the whole alt+tab behaviour is a non-issue. I'm curious though, what sortof keyboard shortcuts are you talking about? | 07:58 |
| blahdeblah | I use 12 virtual workspaces. I keep fixed applications in each by convention. I switch between them frequently. Icewm provides hotkeys for forward, back, most recent, and arbitrary numbered workspaces. | 08:00 |
| blahdeblah | So i map win+# keys to all of them | 08:00 |
| gggs | blahdeblah: I've setup Compiz in a similar fashion with super+left/right and super+LMB/RMB | 08:02 |
| gggs | 12 workspaces is a fair bit though | 08:06 |
| blahdeblah | right now, 2 of them are empty | 08:11 |
| blahdeblah | But i try to keep my work separated out | 08:11 |
| gggs | 10 windows is a lot of seperation | 08:22 |
| gggs | although I do have a dual-monitor setup, so it's probably about the same | 08:23 |
| sagaci | head_victim: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric -- just reached the goal in time | 08:25 |
| gggs | sagaci: damn, you've been busy | 08:27 |
| sagaci | <21% to go for the precise cycle | 08:27 |
| gggs | What does "79,942 untranslated" mean? | 08:30 |
| gggs | is that words, files, lines...? | 08:32 |
| sagaci | strings | 08:33 |
| gggs | sagaci: so... you've translated 380,986 strings already? | 08:34 |
| sagaci | the no, we've collectively translated around 300,000 | 08:35 |
| gggs | wow, good work | 08:35 |
| sagaci | still that ~79,000 to go and then we'll scape out the errors people have made :) | 08:36 |
| sagaci | scrape | 08:36 |
| gggs | Hey being part of the Australian Ubuntu team, can you modify the en_AU locale and submit changes? | 08:41 |
| xannen | ZZZZZZZZZ 20 hours till 11.10 :( | 08:43 |
| sagaci | gggs: you need to join the team and be approved, which is easily done | 08:44 |
| sagaci | xannen: it'll likely be release when we're asleep around 4am in the morning | 08:45 |
| gggs | gnome-clock showed Sunday as the first day of the week, modifying one line in en_AU fixed it, but some dude I forget the name of said I'd need some sortof official standard or document to change it | 08:45 |
| head_victim | gggs: depends on what you mean by locale though. | 08:45 |
| head_victim | timezones are a whole other kettle of fish | 08:46 |
| xannen | I'm an ubuntu-au asylum seeker, process me, not in malaysia. :D | 08:46 |
| sagaci | honestly, I'd like the date to display as 13th October, 2011 | 08:46 |
| sagaci | rather than the US October 13, 2011 | 08:46 |
| xannen | I have us-en locale too. i'm over it. :( | 08:47 |
| head_victim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/192507 | 08:47 |
| lubotu2 | Launchpad bug 192507 in langpack-locales (Ubuntu) "en_AU locale: first day of week incorrect" [Low,Fix released] | 08:47 |
| head_victim | That's an old one but the same issue | 08:47 |
| head_victim | Basically we can't collectively decide | 08:47 |
| head_victim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales is where to report any bugs you think need fixing though | 08:49 |
| xannen | hehe... shuttleworth boarded US spaceship didn't he? :P | 08:49 |
| gggs | yea that's the issue I ran into, but I've never met anyone that thought Sunday was the first day of the week | 08:50 |
| xannen | Hi head_victim, btw <3 | 08:50 |
| head_victim | http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/htdocs/DateTime-Locale/DateTime/Locale/en_AU.html looks like the most comprehensive list of info on the topic | 08:50 |
| head_victim | Gday xannen | 08:51 |
| head_victim | sagaci: doesn't it display the right date format when using en_AU? | 08:52 |
| head_victim | Hmm, so it doesn't. That definitely is a bug. | 08:52 |
| gggs | head_victim: would that doc be enough to convince the committers upstream? | 08:53 |
| head_victim | gggs: not sure, worth a try? | 08:53 |
| sagaci | yeah, I tried tweak it but didn't have time at the time to file/struggle with it | 08:54 |
| gggs | head_victim: maybe, what do we have to do? | 08:56 |
| head_victim | gggs: I'd submit a bug against that package | 08:59 |
| gggs | head_victim: but it was marked wontfix | 09:08 |
| head_victim | gggs: yeah that was 3 years ago as well though | 09:09 |
| cretsiah | hi any1 know how to fix right click in firefox on ubuntu? | 09:09 |
| head_victim | If you can point to a credible source that states it is "X" and the locale is set to "Y" I'm sure you'll get it sorted. Just need a good reason | 09:09 |
| head_victim | cretsiah: depends on what you've done to make it not work? | 09:09 |
| gggs | it's surprising that an entire continent of Ubuntu users either haven't noticed or haven't attempted to fix it | 09:10 |
| cretsiah | lol gggs, unfortunetly I dont what has happened, as my kid was using it at the time, he is claiming he was only watching youtube | 09:11 |
| gggs | cretsiah: hah, I was talking about something else | 09:13 |
| gggs | cretsiah: what sortof mouse is it | 09:13 |
| cretsiah | logitech scroll-wheel mouse | 09:18 |
| cretsiah | it was fine 3 days ago... | 09:19 |
| cretsiah | he also managed to remove all the desktop icons | 09:19 |
| gggs | cretsiah: heh, you need to setup another user account next time, Linux is designed for multi-users | 09:21 |
| gggs | when did you reboot it last? | 09:21 |
| cretsiah | he has his own account, however kids being kids my account was in use at the time, and no rebooting didnt help.. | 09:22 |
| airtonix | cretsiah: i assume you tried restarting nautilus with : nautilus -q | 09:22 |
| airtonix | cretsiah: and which version of ubuntu ? | 09:23 |
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| cretsiah | ubuntu 11.04 running xfce, | 09:28 |
| cretsiah | no i havent tried restarting nautilus | 09:29 |
| sagaci | wow great, it's already synced on aarnet | 11:05 |
| xannen | what's sync on aarnet? | 11:17 |
| sagaci | 11.10 isos are on aarnet | 11:17 |
| sagaci | for unmetered for bigpond | 11:18 |
| xannen | oh wow already? | 11:19 |
| gggs | sagaci: hey, you're right: 62fb5d750c30a27a26d01c5f3d8df459 *ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso | 11:19 |
| xannen | according to: http://http://thisisthecountdown.com/ it's release in 6 hours ish | 11:20 |
| gggs | hmm, "ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso - 12-Oct-2011 15:14 697M" <- yesterday? | 11:21 |
| sagaci | yeah, it's the real deal | 11:21 |
| sagaci | it wouldn't be labelled ubuntu-11.10-desktop.amd64.iso otherwise :) | 11:22 |
| xannen | hmm... but on the ubuntu.com it's now on there yet? | 11:22 |
| sagaci | takes time for all mirrors to sync, they don't start pushing the isos out on release day | 11:22 |
| xannen | so... what does that mean? | 11:22 |
| sagaci | xannen, they're waiting for the international mirrors to pick it up | 11:22 |
| xannen | can you post me link for aarnet? :D | 11:23 |
| gggs | http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/releases/11.10/ | 11:23 |
| head_victim | sagaci: that's good news, means I'm syncing it now | 11:24 |
| xannen | ty gggs. what's diff between alternate vs desktop? | 11:24 |
| sagaci | desktop is a desktop install whereas alternate is a text based install | 11:25 |
| xannen | ah ty sagaci. i'm such a noob <3 | 11:25 |
| sagaci | or alternate can be used as an upgrade mediumm | 11:25 |
| sagaci | desktop cannot | 11:25 |
| xannen | is the iso supposed to be for dvd right? | 11:29 |
| xannen | also, what's the zsync? o.O | 11:31 |
| sagaci | you can keep updating the file without needing to redownload the whole thing | 11:33 |
| sagaci | with a final iso, it shouldn't be necessary, if you're on a linux system just wget the iso | 11:33 |
| xannen | ty sagaci. back to the iso, 'cause the size is close to 700MB, so it has to be on a dvd eh? | 11:34 |
| sagaci | no, CD | 11:35 |
| sagaci | they've made it so it's CD size so it's compatible with older/more computers | 11:35 |
| xannen | okay... i heard they were goin to release a dvd iso? is that later? | 11:35 |
| sagaci | but I prefer to install via USB anyway | 11:35 |
| sagaci | yeah, a bit later | 11:35 |
| xannen | you mention to get the iso via wget/web, is it just as faster compared torrent? just curious, 'cause i thought torrent might be faster? | 11:36 |
| xannen | i'm dl-ing at about 230kbps now. | 11:37 |
| sagaci | yeah, torrent may be quicker | 11:37 |
| sagaci | but aarnet for me is unmetered so I don't mind how quick it comes down, I'm probably not installing it tonight | 11:38 |
| xannen | it's interesting to see desktop iso was out on 12 oct, 3pm ish. | 11:44 |
| xannen | i could have got it yesterday. :( | 11:44 |
| gggs | you download the torrent and you're using bandwidth, you download the iso and you're using unmetered bandwidth (if you're with Bigpond) | 11:47 |
| gggs | s/bandwidth/`download quota'/g | 11:47 |
| sagaci | yeah, that's why I generally don't do torrents | 11:48 |
| sagaci | going to go see how well it fares on the old P4 | 11:50 |
| head_victim | No promises that's the official release | 11:53 |
| gggs | head_victim: would there be any sha1 hashes/gpg sigs from Ubuntu yet? | 11:53 |
| head_victim | gggs: nope, not until official release | 11:53 |
| head_victim | Who says they won't respin it | 11:53 |
| gggs | head_victim: true; xannen: I'd probably check it when hashes are released just in case | 11:53 |
| head_victim | sagaci: Lubuntu will be fine, I would hate to think how gnome or kde would go | 11:54 |
| head_victim | XFCE is just as heavy as gnome in my recent experience. | 11:54 |
| sagaci | head_victim: due to that critical release bug, eh :) | 11:57 |
| sagaci | ubuntu booted without flicker on the P4, that's an improvement, going to install now | 11:57 |
| sagaci | xannen: fyi, iinet host their own repo, don't know if it'd be unmetered but it's not updated yet to the final anyhow | 12:04 |
| xannen | sagaci, yeah, i know they have their own ftp for linux. :D and it's not updated, i checked there. | 12:08 |
| sagaci | install went fine :) | 12:11 |
| sagaci | seeya on oneiric : | 12:17 |
| sagaci | :) | 12:17 |
| sagaci | head_victim, well xchat translations didn't make it | 12:20 |
| sagaci | but on the flipside, the chromium browser is en_AU friendly :) | 12:34 |
| airtonix | ye gawds. chrome title bar is five foot high | 12:41 |
| airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/ODkYY.png | 12:42 |
| sagaci | airtonix, not getting that on chromium | 12:46 |
| airtonix | sagaci: it was a freak instance | 12:46 |
| airtonix | a restart of chromium fixed it | 12:46 |
| ikt | happy 11.10 everybody :) | 14:39 |
| ikt | heya ejat :) | 15:52 |
| kaushal | Hi | 22:47 |
| kaushal | I need help on pastebinit | 22:47 |
| kaushal | cat glassfish0 | pastebinit -b http://sprunge.us -t [glassfish0] -> this does not set title | 22:47 |
| kaushal | Any clue ? | 22:47 |
| gorilla | kaushal: I belive that the problem could be the square brackets [ & ]. Apart from that you could try experimentign with what does work and what doesn't and report a possible bug. | 23:08 |
| * gorilla hasn't used pastbinint but has taken a stab at it. | 23:08 | |
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