[02:31] <Geocosm> My mic amplification keeps turning itself up to 100% which is way way way too loud. I put it back down to unamplified but when I talk it automatically shoots back up to 100%
[02:31] <Geocosm> How do I make my input volume not possessed?
[02:31] <holstein> Geocosm: in what application?
[02:31] <Geocosm> Sound Preferences
[02:31] <holstein> see if there are 'automatic' controls
[02:32] <holstein> Geocosm: right, but with what application?
[02:32] <holstein> that could be an application setting
[02:32] <Geocosm> It's in the Input tab in Sound Preferences
[02:32] <holstein> i remember seeing something in skype that says 'manage settings'
[02:32] <holstein> Geocosm: yes, but what are you using the mic with
[02:32] <Geocosm> Tons of things.
[02:32] <Geocosm> Mangler, Skype, G+
[02:33] <holstein> Geocosm: well, im proposing that those applications have control of that, and are changing those settings
[02:33] <Geocosm> Interesting.
[02:33] <holstein> you can always open skype, look for the settings im mentioning, and try it while you wait on someone else
[02:33] <holstein> you can also install pavucontrol if its still available in whatever version of ubuntu you are running
[02:34] <Geocosm> Ah. Allow Skype to adjust my mixer levels. But... it's still doing it.
[02:35] <holstein> Geocosm: OK.. so we can call that 'ruled out' then
[02:35] <holstein> its not application specific then
[02:35] <holstein> Geocosm: is this something that has always happened, or something that has just started happening?
[02:35] <holstein> are you up do date with all package upgrades?
[02:36] <holstein> did you see anything helpful in 'pavucontrol' ?
[02:36] <Geocosm> I'm not sure.
[02:36] <Geocosm> I am.
[02:36] <Geocosm> I didn't look yet
[02:37] <holstein> cool... let me know when you have time to do some troubleshooting :)
[02:37] <Geocosm> Installing it now
[02:42] <Geocosm> ok. installed.
[02:43] <holstein> i assume you are looking in alsamixer? in the terminal?
[02:43] <Geocosm> applications>sound & video>Pulseaudio volume control
[02:44] <holstein> right, but prior to coming here, you were looking in alsamixer?
[02:45] <holstein> if you open a terminal and type
[02:45] <holstein> alsamixer
[02:45] <Geocosm> I clicked the sound preferences button on the speaker in my panel
[02:45] <holstein> you should be able to hit F5 and see all the settings, boost or whatever
[02:45] <Geocosm> oh, god. what is this
[02:45] <holstein> Geocosm: ?
[02:46] <Geocosm> it's all weird looking. my terminal.
[02:47] <Geocosm> AlsaMixer v1.0.24.2
[02:47] <holstein> should be alsamixer
[02:48] <Geocosm> It's got like bars in it and stuff lol
[02:48] <holstein> if you hit F5 you should see the boost settings and all that
[02:48] <holstein> Geocosm: right, thats the mixer
[02:48] <holstein> i would try setting the settings there, and see
[02:48] <Geocosm> This is like weird. I don't know what to do lol.
[02:49] <holstein> Geocosm: you navigate to the boost settings after pressing F5
[02:49] <holstein> turn them to the setting you chose
[02:50] <holstein> start an app, see if the settings change unwantedly again
[02:51] <Geocosm> aha. I have to use the keyboard.
[02:51] <holstein> ?
[02:51] <Geocosm> On this thing in my terminal. these bars.
[02:51] <holstein> Geocosm: you can hit escape and close it
[02:52] <holstein> and look for a bug report... if you dont see one you can file it
[02:52] <Geocosm> I closed G+ and it stopped messing up my mic.
[02:52] <Geocosm> But there's no setting like that on G+
[02:52] <holstein> if it were my machine, i would try a few live CD's
[02:52] <holstein> the LTS... 10.04, and maybe knoppix
[02:53] <Geocosm> is there no way to deny my web browser mic permissions?
[02:53] <holstein> i would make a note of if it is happening or not, and make a note of the kernel version and ALSA versions
[02:53] <Geocosm> My sound has always been messed up.
[02:54] <holstein> Geocosm: you should probably be filing bugs with alsa then
[02:54] <Geocosm> Like, only one application can use it at a time. And when I close that application, all the other sounds that should have happened before happen.
[02:54] <holstein> Geocosm: open a terminal... and run a few commands and paste them for me here
[02:54] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:54] <Geocosm> Like, when I close my music player, Skype will make all these sigh and blip noises. lol.
[02:54] <holstein> run...
[02:54] <holstein> lspci
[02:54] <holstein> aplay -l
[02:54] <holstein> arecord -l
[02:54] <obarthelemy> hi. I'm running natty on an arm-based hercules cafe. works globally fine, except at boot I get a blinking curosr at the top left corner, and hav to do ctrl-alt-F1 to get a tty. It would be great if I could also know where to change my keyboard map at bott time instead of manually each time :-p
[02:55] <obarthelemy> I've tried to hack together a simple inittab, no change, but maybe i made it wrong
[02:56] <Geocosm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/707124/
[02:56] <holstein> obarthelemy: thats quite over my head, but feel free and pastebin what you got here, and maybe someone will be able to give you some feedback
[02:57] <obarthelemy> I hink what I did amounts to nothing, we can start from scratch: how do I get natty to launch a tty at boot, and what will be that tty's onfig files ? (runlevel 3 preferred)
[02:58] <holstein> the GUI is running on one is it not?
[02:58] <holstein> anyways, again.. over my head
[02:59] <holstein> Geocosm: i found an interesting post
[02:59] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1055105.html
[02:59] <obarthelemy> no, no gui, this is for a server... thanks anyway
[02:59] <holstein> suggests adding Add -> options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig probe_mask=1 <-at the end of the line in file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[02:59] <holstein> obarthelemy: right
[02:59] <holstein> im just not sure why you arent getting to a tty anyways
[03:00] <holstein> my server installs just boot up to a login prompt, no hacking needed...
[03:00] <holstein> Geocosm: as long as you understand how to add that to that file, and remove it if it doesnt work/help, i would try it
[03:01] <Geocosm> Got it. Thank you.
[03:02] <holstein> theres also http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci:3A3E:8086-AUDIO
[03:03] <holstein> Geocosm: ^^ those units should have the same audio hardware you have
[03:04] <Geocosm> "Make sure you don't have 2 applications sharing sound. It seems like a pulseaudio problem."
[03:04] <Geocosm> lol I have like 6 applications using sound right now.
[03:05] <holstein> Geocosm: thats not the issue
[03:06] <holstein> you dont share the exact same problem, you have sound, you just have a glitch
[03:06] <holstein> that could be a glitch no one has noticed
[03:07]  * Geocosm pulls his hair out.
[03:09] <Geocosm> That might have mostly fixed the problem, actually.
[03:09] <holstein> Geocosm: ?
[03:10] <Geocosm> I'm still not able to get sound on a youtube video, but like Skype is making noises while I'm using Rhythmbox.
[03:10] <holstein> Geocosm: sound with youtube?
[03:10] <holstein> i didnt know about that
[03:10] <holstein> that could be anything... i would try different browsers too just to be sure
[03:10] <holstein> flash is just awful
[03:11] <Geocosm> yeah I tried chromium, chrome, and FF.
[03:11] <Geocosm> It is.
[03:11] <Geocosm> Oh. I know. I'll try to find an HTML5 video.
[03:11] <holstein> anyways, i would also be interested in knowing how it workds with 10.04 and 11.10
[03:11] <holstein> i was thinking it was the mic boost issue, and that was it
[03:12] <holstein> i would test with live CD's first so as not to break something, but updating alsa is not a bad idea
[03:12] <holstein> Geocosm: you'll just need to fiddle around with it
[03:12] <holstein> if its a desktop machine, i would go spent $4 at a charity shop and get *any* compatible card, and disable that one in the bios
[03:13] <holstein> can you get that one working? sure... but who knows how much of a pain it'll be
[03:13] <holstein> you'll need to pick a bug reporting path and be diligent about it
[03:13] <holstein> anyhow, im out.. GN folks and good luck
[03:14] <Geocosm> Night. Thanks.
[05:06] <sebsebseb> hi
[05:10] <dangertux> hi
[09:53] <Severity1> hello earthlings :P
[14:20] <malev> hello!!
[14:21] <malev> so, what's up throw this lands? any new cool project or something? or are you having beers for the new release?
[14:25] <holstein> mey malev ... maybe you want to try one of the more social avenues like #ubuntu-beginners-team or #ubuntu-release-party
[14:28] <malev> holstein: maybe, but I also asked about the channel it self. I've participate on this channel some time ago, and I saw there where to be big changes and ... that was what I was asking
[15:58] <holstein> malev: welcome back :)
[16:03] <tuxforprez> hello can anyone help me with sed ?
[16:03] <tuxforprez> Hi there I am trying to
[16:03] <tuxforprez> echo "Your weather code is $CODE It is now being move to the correct place "
[16:03] <tuxforprez> but I want to replace the 1st line in weather.conf to $CODE
[16:03] <tuxforprez> echo $CODE >> /opt/Weather/weather.config
[16:05] <coalwater> hm i don't know much about bash but i can try
[16:06] <coalwater> u want to replace only 1 line? or does the file only contain that line
[16:06] <coalwater> cause >> means append
[16:06] <coalwater> so it will create a new line
[16:06] <coalwater> tuxforprez:
[16:07] <tuxforprez> thaks
[16:07] <tuxforprez> thanks
[16:07] <tuxforprez> I am just learning
[16:07] <coalwater> so ? how many lines are in the config file?
[16:08] <tuxforprez> 2
[16:08] <tuxforprez> 1st one is yahoo weather code
[16:08] <coalwater> 2nd should be kept ?
[16:08] <tuxforprez> 2 is Celsius or fer
[16:08] <tuxforprez> c or f
[16:09] <coalwater> is it possile to just create the file? or would that need more coding?
[16:09] <coalwater> i mean is there a variable in the code that already knows the setting?
[16:09] <tuxforprez> more coding
[16:10] <tuxforprez> a guy @ # bash said to use sed
[16:10] <tuxforprez> this is what he gave me
[16:10] <tuxforprez> { echo "$CODE"; sed 1d /opt/Weather/weather.config; } > tempfile && mv tempfile /opt/Weather/weather.config
[16:10] <tuxforprez> I guess that one 1d is the 1st line
[16:11] <coalwater> idk if sed can read a certain line
[16:11] <tuxforprez> neither do I :>)
[16:11] <tuxforprez> I will try brb
[16:12] <coalwater> ok i think i got what it meant
[16:12] <coalwater> it's like an offset
[16:12] <coalwater> skip first line
[16:13] <coalwater> so yea that code should run successfully
[16:14] <coalwater> hmm, now it doesn't seem to be an offset, its more like an ignore line
[16:15] <coalwater> d = Delete pattern space.  Start next cycle.
[16:15] <coalwater> w//e that means
[16:15] <coalwater> :D
[16:16] <tuxforprez> thanks
[16:17] <tuxforprez> almost there
[16:17] <Riviera> Is the question solved?
[16:19] <tuxforprez> \0/
[16:19] <Riviera> sed has two buffers, the pattern space and the hold space.  normally it operates on the pattern space, where the input is read in line-wise.
[16:19] <Riviera> each reading-in of a new line is "a new cycle."
[16:19] <Riviera> That behaviour of the d command allows code like that:
[16:19] <tuxforprez> cool Riviera thaks
[16:19] <tuxforprez> yeah it worked
[16:19] <Riviera> sed '/some pattern/d; s/^/hehe/'
[16:20] <Riviera> the s command which prepends each line with the string "hehe" would be skipped for each line containing "some pattern"
[16:20] <Riviera> which would then not appear in the output
[16:20] <Riviera> $ printf %s\\n {a..c} | sed '/b/d; s/^/not deleted: /'
[16:20] <Riviera> not deleted: a
[16:20] <Riviera> not deleted: c
[16:20] <tuxforprez> Real cool stuff right here
[16:22] <Riviera> I actually use that a lot, for instead of doing
[16:22] <Riviera> grep 'some pattern' | sed 's/some/thing/'
[16:22] <tuxforprez> anything from a to c is that why the dots are there or is it just a and c that are not deleted
[16:22] <Riviera> doing
[16:22] <Riviera> sed '/some pattern/!d; s/some/thing/'
[16:22] <Riviera> If you are into these insane things, ##sed is a very friendly and very helpful (though sometimes quiet) channel.
[16:22] <tuxforprez> lol
[16:23] <tuxforprez> I am joining now thanks
[16:23] <tuxforprez> join ##sed
[16:23] <Riviera> tuxforprez: that {a..c} thing is a feature of shells like bash, ksh and zsh:
[16:23] <tuxforprez> v. cool
[16:24] <Riviera> try, for example:  echo {a..z}; echo {01..10}
[16:24] <tuxforprez> this is going to make life so much more fun and easy
[16:25] <tuxforprez> SO cool
[16:26] <Riviera> echo {dog,cat,bird}{house,pool}
[16:26] <Riviera> ;)
[16:26] <tuxforprez> lol
[16:26] <tuxforprez> So coll
[16:26] <tuxforprez> cool
[16:27] <tuxforprez> this is  REGexp ?
[16:28] <tuxforprez> sorry that I am so new
[16:28] <tuxforprez> to all of this
[16:28] <Riviera> no, it's something completely different, bash calls it 'brace expansion"
[16:29] <tuxforprez> REGexp moves mords on ? like if I want to move up a step
[16:29] <tuxforprez> from 1 to say 300
[16:30] <tuxforprez> echo {1..300} {300..1}
[16:30] <tuxforprez> yes
[16:31] <tuxforprez> thank you so much
[16:31] <tuxforprez> :>)
[16:33] <coalwater> i dont know much of sed, i usually like grep more, but i think i'll try to see what sed has to offer and maybe i'll find it useful some day :D
[16:34] <Riviera> tuxforprez: regular expressions match things
[16:34] <Riviera> tuxforprez: (or, well, in theory they define regular languages, but ignore that)
[16:35] <Riviera> tuxforprez: that "changing" what you meant, as in sed's s command, only partly consists of regular expressions:
[16:35] <Riviera> tuxforprez: s/pattern/replacement/flags
[16:36] <Riviera> tuxforprez: where "pattern" is a regular expression, and "replacement" is not, both have different syntaxes
[16:36] <Riviera> tuxforprez: the "s" stands for "substitute"
[16:36] <Riviera> anyway, need to hurry now, back later :)
[16:36] <tuxforprez> thanks again :>)
[17:11] <chrisinleedsuk> Hi everyone
[17:12] <chrisinleedsuk> How do I make my yamaha opl3-sa3 soundcard work?
[17:12] <chrisinleedsuk> There appears to be no drivers currently installed but I know NOTHING about linux.
[17:12] <coalwater> hm
[17:12] <coalwater> !sound
[17:12] <ubot2> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[17:13] <coalwater> there, check that
[17:13] <chrisinleedsuk> Thank-you
[18:16] <tonywade> hi
[18:17] <tonywade> does anyone know if you install a version of ubuntu on a usb does it affect your other files on the usb?
[18:18] <bioterror> you need partitions
[18:19] <tonywade> how do u do that?
[18:24] <tonywade> how do u do partitions?
[18:25] <holstein> tonywade: i typically just use the normal ubuntu installer, and choose the USB as the destination
[18:25] <holstein> you can use the alternate installer too to ensure GRUB will go where you want it to go
[18:26] <tonywade> but how about using startup disk creator
[18:27] <holstein> tonywade: use whatever you want to make the installer
[18:27] <bioterror> but if you want to keep files on usb
[18:27] <bioterror> you need two partitions
[18:27] <bioterror> one for files, and one for ubuntu
[18:27] <holstein> i usually use a USB stick to install to another USB stick, or SD card
[18:27] <holstein> yeah, making a persistent stick is different
[18:27] <holstein> i personally dont see the benifit
[18:27] <holstein> i just make an install on the USB
[18:29] <tonywade> ok can i use the files on the usb if i have the ubuntu running?
[23:22] <w47331> hello all im having issues with getting my graphics hardware to be seen by ubuntu
[23:24] <w47331> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707607/
[23:26] <w47331> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707632/