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| thorn | sets keyboard to "lurk" and says goodnight... | 04:42 |
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| greg-g | huh, I'm reporting a bug with the title "Software Center SEGFAULTS when attempting to start" the night before release :( | 05:11 |
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| iceroot | i want to create a debdiff for a package from 11.04 but i am using 11.10. is there an easy (and not space-intensiv) way to build up a 11.04 environment to build the source-package correctly? | 11:23 |
| iceroot | as it seems https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff is down :( | 11:24 |
| iceroot | how to get "kwallet-cli" as source-package for 11.04 when using 11.10? apt-get source will give me 11.10 version | 11:57 |
| iceroot | pull-lp-source kwalletcli natty | 11:59 |
| damg | should I branch off lp:ubuntu/${PROJECTNAME} or off lp:${PROJECT_NAME} on launchpad? | 12:00 |
| iceroot | maybe someone can have a look at my first debdiff for a security issue? feedback is very welcome https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwalletcli/+bug/802274 | 12:22 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 802274 in kwalletcli (Ubuntu) "Security issue in kwalletcli_getpin(1): tty I/O now properly disables echoing input when asking for a passphrase is not fixed (affects: 1) (heat: 260)" [Low,Confirmed] | 12:22 |
| iceroot | also is it possible for me to upload packages to some testing repos instead of posting patch/diff on launchpad? or is this only for people from canocial? ( i am not talking about the real repos, just dev-repos) | 12:26 |
| hggdh | iceroot: ideally, you should have a local build environment -- look at pbuilder | 12:34 |
| iceroot | hggdh: so a complete chroot from 11.04 | 12:34 |
| iceroot | or better a pbuilder-environment for 11.04, 10.10 and so onm | 12:34 |
| hggdh | iceroot: correct, only way to have a non-contamined environment | 12:35 |
| hggdh | and you can upload to a PPA for tests | 12:35 |
| iceroot | hggdh: are there pbuilder-images ready? or do i have to build it all myself? | 12:35 |
| hggdh | iceroot: unfortunately, you have to build them locally | 12:36 |
| iceroot | i guess pbuilder is downloading the dependecies with apt-get so i only need a very small environment to use it | 12:36 |
| hggdh | yes, it will. | 12:37 |
| iceroot | ok, then i will try it later | 12:37 |
| iceroot | but for just creating a debdiff, i dont need pbuilder. just build the dsc and use debdiff | 12:37 |
| iceroot | ? | 12:37 |
| hggdh | damg: lp:ubuntu/project is the Ubuntu localisation for the project; lp:project is the "upstream" project | 12:37 |
| hggdh | pbuilder is for _building_ the package; for a debdiff you only need the source packages | 12:38 |
| hggdh | iceroot: ^ | 12:38 |
| damg | hggdh, thanks for the hint | 12:39 |
| iceroot | hggdh: thanks for the info | 12:48 |
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| hggdh | alea jactas est, Oneiric is released | 13:30 |
| hggdh | s/jactas/jacta/ | 13:31 |
| pedro_ | \o/ | 13:40 |
| pedro_ | Thanks all for their contributions :-) | 13:40 |
| * pedro_ hugs the bugsquad | 13:40 | |
| * hggdh hugs pedro_, so that he will not be feeling forgotten | 13:47 | |
| roadmr | congrats all :) | 14:06 |
| bdmurray | mvo: Hi, about that apturl fix. I end up getting a message saying that the package is virtual. | 14:48 |
| mvo | bdmurray: hm, what example are you using? I tested this with apt:libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental:i386 and it works for me | 14:55 |
| bdmurray | mvo: I tried skype as mentioned in the bug | 14:55 |
| bdmurray | mvo: I don't have partner in my sources.list though so that might be the issue | 14:58 |
| mvo | bdmurray: yeah, that is the issue, does apt:sykype:i386?channel=oneiric-partner | 14:58 |
| mvo | work | 14:59 |
| bdmurray | mvo: yes, that's great. I was trying to fix this bug yesterday and missed that. Could you sponsor my debdiff in bug 207065? | 15:01 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 207065 in compizconfig-backend-gconf (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Bad Compiz Bindings Bug (affects: 23) (dups: 2) (heat: 130)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207065 | 15:01 |
| mvo | bdmurray: sure, hold on a minute | 15:03 |
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| === bdmurray changed the topic of #ubuntu-bugs to: Ubuntu Bug Squad - next meeting 10/20/11 | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Want to report a bug? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | User support (not related to triage) is in #ubuntu | ||
| thorn | how do I share a screen shot of my computer so I can demonstrate a bug? | 16:32 |
| hggdh | thorn: you can use a graphical pastebin, or attach it to the bug | 16:36 |
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| wagafo | Bug 873391 has an informative title :-! Is it OK if I change the title to "Failed to fetch packages" and tell the OP that he should try later because probably the server he tried didn't have yet the new packages? | 17:03 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 873391 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Code: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/geoip/libgeoip1_1.4.8+dfsg-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb Unable to connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:http: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/bind9-host_9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu4_amd64.deb Unable to connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:http: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/dn | 17:03 |
| mvo | wagafo: sounds like the server is overloaded | 17:05 |
| wagafo | mvo: yes, that's more likely, I will tell also that possibility to the reporter | 17:06 |
| bdmurray | mvo: and a 503 might indicate the same thing yes? | 17:08 |
| SwitchDK | Could anybody tell me if the BugSquad mentorship team is still active? I just noticed that the "Proposed member" list contains application from April this year | 17:23 |
| bfwg | anybody seeing issues with the package 'ubuntu-minimal' when trying to upgrade? | 17:29 |
| ikt | SwitchDK: no it's not | 17:45 |
| ikt | afaik it's died | 17:45 |
| SwitchDK | ikt: that is sad news :( | 17:49 |
| SwitchDK | ikt: but thank you for letting me know | 17:49 |
| ikt | :D | 17:50 |
| bdmurray | That doesn't mean mentorship isn't available | 17:50 |
| bdmurray | Just that the whole team thing wasn't working out so well | 17:50 |
| ikt | are you interested in bug triage or just wondering? | 17:50 |
| SwitchDK | Ah ok, I would like to do triaging and just joined the BugSquad a month ago but I don't feel comfortable with triaging yet and was wondering how I could get to know the robes better | 17:51 |
| bdmurray | this channel is an excellent forum | 17:51 |
| ikt | forum of silence? | 17:51 |
| ikt | actually | 17:52 |
| SwitchDK | for a newbie it can be rather daunting to keep asking questions in the forum | 17:52 |
| ikt | why doesn't the bugsquad have a forum on the ubuntuforums? | 17:52 |
| SwitchDK | but if that is acceptable I will do that | 17:52 |
| greg-g | SwitchDK: a few of us in here usually try to respond to people's questions when they have them. Just ask and we'll respond when we see it | 17:53 |
| yofel | ikt: you want to split the information onto yet another medium? | 17:54 |
| SwitchDK | ok, thank you greg-g, ikt and bdmurray | 17:54 |
| ikt | yofel: that's classic | 17:54 |
| ikt | they said the exact same thing when I said we should make a forum for our loco team | 17:54 |
| yofel | heh | 17:54 |
| greg-g | ikt: which team are you from? | 17:55 |
| ikt | ubuntu australia | 17:55 |
| greg-g | awesome | 17:55 |
| ikt | yeah! our loco had the same problem as the bugsquad had | 17:56 |
| ikt | or has* | 17:56 |
| yofel | I just mean: what are you going to put on the forums and what on the ML once you have the forum? | 17:58 |
| yofel | you won't get everyone to use both | 17:58 |
| ikt | one sec, just grabbing the log, I swear this is deja-vu | 17:59 |
| yofel | I'm sure it is ^^ | 17:59 |
| bil21al | hey congrats every body to oneiric release | 18:01 |
| SwitchDK | bil21al: indeed, I echo that, still downloading it though, the servers must be rather busy at the moment | 18:02 |
| yofel | use torrents, the main servers are totally overloaded today | 18:02 |
| bdmurray | additionally you might not want to choose to install 3rd party software | 18:03 |
| bil21al | yes torrent servers are quite faster. | 18:03 |
| SwitchDK | yofol: absolutely I agree, I guess it is an exciting "bad" thing the servers are overloaded. It means lots of interest | 18:03 |
| ikt | yofel: http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-au.log.20110208_0401.html <- search for "forum" should take you straight to the action | 18:04 |
| greg-g | bdmurray: are you referring to a specific issue with the 3rd party software comment? | 18:04 |
| bdmurray | greg-g: yes, archive.canonical.com is rather busy and install flash may not work | 18:05 |
| greg-g | ahhhhhh | 18:06 |
| greg-g | that installer option, gotcha | 18:06 |
| bil21al | bdmurray: you are the main person here ,so congrats.and tomorrow i will give this new version to my cousins and relatives.oneiric rocks in pakistan also | 18:07 |
| hggdh | ikt: I see no reason why a forum would not work. But our base is IRC. I, for example, seldom go to the fora (no time) | 18:07 |
| yofel | ikt: well, I can agree that you'll see people on the forum that you won't see somewhere else. But IMO bugsquad members should learn to use IRC, as that's what we usually use | 18:08 |
| greg-g | I wonder if it might help the forum community when dealing with bugs (just thinking out loud here) because many times issues are discussed on a forum but there isn't always a bug reported/linked to. | 18:08 |
| greg-g | Have a place that is where people knowledgeable/want to help with bugs look might enable the forum to better react to bug reports happening on the forum | 18:09 |
| * greg-g shrugs | 18:09 | |
| hggdh | greg-g: I think it would. This goes, partially, for the casual user -- good enought o use the forum, but daunted by LP | 18:09 |
| ikt | yeah exactly | 18:09 |
| yofel | you usually have some bug people in the +1 forum, but rarely somewhere else | 18:10 |
| greg-g | but, I'll be honest, I'll never read it :/ | 18:10 |
| bdmurray | nor will I | 18:10 |
| yofel | +1 | 18:11 |
| ikt | that's the problem :P | 18:11 |
| greg-g | yeah :/ | 18:11 |
| ikt | but it doesn't need you guys to specifically read and take part in the forum | 18:11 |
| greg-g | my bug triage time is limited as it is | 18:11 |
| ikt | very similar to the hug a bug day | 18:11 |
| hggdh | no, it does not. But whoever is there responding for bugsquad/bugcontrol better know what they are talking about | 18:12 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:12 |
| hggdh | this is actually a discussion that has been going on and off for a while now -- LKP does not scale for the casual user | 18:13 |
| hggdh | so we need other venues | 18:13 |
| ikt | it's not about taking in bug requests and bugs on the forum | 18:13 |
| hggdh | dammit s/LKP/LP/ | 18:14 |
| ikt | it's about communicating with people | 18:14 |
| ikt | anyways I gotta sleep, ttyl :) | 18:14 |
| hggdh | exactly. Communicating with people. And how, for example, does the fora scale for millions of users? | 18:15 |
| hggdh | (I know LP does not) | 18:15 |
| yofel | we have millions of users in the bugsquad? ^^ | 18:17 |
| yofel | and no, please don't suggest aksubuntu for bugsquad communication... | 18:17 |
| yofel | *askubuntu | 18:17 |
| hggdh | no, we do not :-) But we have millions of users. Users have bugs/issues/problems/questions | 18:18 |
| hggdh | and, somehow, we should cater to them. I think ikt is absolutely right (if he meant this) | 18:18 |
| hggdh | er. Or she. | 18:22 |
| bdmurray | how can these launchpad users not put an irc nick on their launchpad page! | 19:06 |
| bdmurray | hrm | 19:09 |
| hjd | hi. Do we have a master bug for bug 873552 / bug 873420 already? (I suspect this might get a couple of duplicates) | 19:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 873552 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "check-new-release-gtk "remind me later" button not working (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873552 | 19:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 873420 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""Remind me later" doesn't do anything (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873420 | 19:35 |
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| hjd | I ended up marking one as a duplicate of the other, but I assume there will be more in the future ^ | 20:13 |
| bil21al | bdmurray: r you a bot? | 20:57 |
| bdmurray | no but I have some | 20:59 |
| bil21al | hmmm gud you work very fast so i asked. | 21:00 |
| kwisatzh4der4ch | Hi all. I was just wandering how ubuntu use Debian critical bugs report. Is there a chance that a debian packages with known critical bugs goes to an ubuntu releases with just a package rebuild ? | 21:48 |
| dtchen | kwisatzh4der4ch: currently, there is no formal process for reviewing http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ in Ubuntu. There is a 100% probability that RC bugs will ship in Ubuntu releases. | 21:56 |
| dtchen | kwisatzh4der4ch: for instance, I've spent the past several days triaging RC bugs in sid, and those bugs aren't closed in oneiric simply because the Ubuntu archive was in hard freeze. | 21:57 |
| dtchen | kwisatzh4der4ch: it would be great to have had them fixed before oneiric shipped, but as always, it's a matter of resources. | 21:58 |
| kwisatzh4der4ch | ok thanks. The positive aspect is that it will make more manpower on theses bugs, than if they stay only in Debian ;-). | 21:58 |
| dtchen | kwisatzh4der4ch: certainly there is strong encouragement to get such bugs fixed in sid then synced into the current Ubuntu development branch. | 21:59 |
| dtchen | (that's pretty much what I did this entire cycle) | 22:00 |
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