[00:12] jcastro - I create a news and leadership team blueprint - made jono approver - can you look over them to just make sure their in the right format? - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-leadership-team and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-news-team-goals [00:13] hey akgraner [00:13] jcastro just realized I can add them to you "todo" card muahahaha :-) [00:13] hey jono! [00:13] hows things? [00:14] good :-) you're up late aren't you? [00:14] akgraner, yeah, just wrapping some things up [00:14] I liked your death metal memories - I think I teared up a bit...:-P [00:15] akgraner, hehe :-) [00:15] looks like you're getting a lot of feedback on the survey! \o/ yay for that...I haven't submitted anything yet, I can't think of anything I need to add to the conversation [00:18] akgraner, yeah, there has been a lot of content coming in, lots of emails too [00:18] great! :-) [00:18] and I spent a lot of time this week on calls with folks to get data too [00:18] it has been my mini-obsession over the last week [00:19] jono - thanks for the comment on my blog...I wasn't trying to bag on you..hope you know that. [00:19] akgraner, np [00:19] :-) [00:20] I personally can't wait to see what you've uncovered - thanks for working on the survey and all the time you are putting into it [00:20] well, I just want to ensure I can get the best possible sense of community perspective [00:21] I don't want to make any assumptions [00:22] my goal is to report the findings with some proposed solutions [00:23] I already have some things I am keen to do to help fix things [00:23] one such thing will be IRC meetings for my team [00:23] :-) I'm glad - I think that the results may surprise many people...I think that Familiarity Breeds Contempt - sorta like when developers work on stuff and know all the areas that are broken sometimes you can't see past the broken-ness and you don't see how awesome the whole of the distro is... [00:23] to provide a better sense of what the team is doing [00:23] yeah the survey has been insightful so far [00:24] I know for me, personally, I think I got caught up in seeing the community with tunnel vision...so I was missing the whole of the awesomeness, as look back in hindsight [00:24] as I look back... [00:25] that's not to say there aren't areas that can be improved upon - just sometimes it's good to take a set back and take in the whole view of the Grand Canyon and not just the edge of the cliff :-) [00:26] s/can/can't [00:26] s/set/step [00:26] jeez I can't type tonight - sorry about that [00:26] yeah, I think there is so much goodwill [00:27] but there is plenty I can improve on, my team, and Canonical [00:27] it's healthy to be reflective [00:27] so this has been an interesting week ;-) [00:27] totally :-) and Thank you ! [00:28] thanks, akgraner, I hope it helps [00:29] me too :-) if there is anything you need from me , the news team, or leadership team let me/us know [00:31] thanks akgraner [00:31] I just sent a reminder to all those who have not yet responded [00:31] (the survey) [00:32] :-) is that a hint... [00:33] lol [00:33] don't worry if you are busy, akgraner [03:18] maco: hahaha [03:18] jcastro: nice post! [03:21] Jono's post is easily is it not? I see no 11.10 release [03:21] doctormo: CONGRATS! [03:22] nigelb: Thanks :-D [03:42] doctormo: congrats! [03:42] get off irc! [03:42] akgraner: sly move there, well done! [03:42] lol [03:44] jcastro, :-) thanks! [03:45] jcastro: I'm home resting up, actually about to go to bed. [03:51] doctormo, CONGRATULATIONS!!! \o/ [03:54] doctormo: CONGRATS indeed! :) [03:54] * greg-g 's is coming in December [03:54] ahh, nice! [03:54] greg-g: congrats :) [03:55] jcastro, love that post and the about.me that was fun! [03:55] ya [03:55] it was awesome, and then it got by AOL [03:55] but luckily, they didn't mess with it [03:55] Like maco said, my moustache might be offended there :P [03:55] jcastro, you are a fun tool finding magnet these last few days [03:56] I AM INTO TOOLS [03:56] * akgraner resists the urge to say something totally inappropriate :-) [03:57] lol [03:57] I said that just to torture you [03:57] yeah I know :-P [03:57] akgraner: lyz said it right last night [03:57] --> "I have tool porn!" is my new favorite jcastroism [03:58] totally.... [03:58] from the book of jcastro [03:59] consider me your lifehacker! [03:59] my favorite is - "Dude, just do s@#$!" [04:00] I have it on a post-it note on my desk and in my calendar....:-) [04:00] it makes me smile :-) [04:01] hah [04:02] did I actually ever say that? [04:02] that sounds too positive a thing for me to say [04:02] ^ that needs quoting [04:02] "Did I actually ever say that?" - jcastro [04:02] jcastro, yep you said that! [04:03] to quote Archer Amazing [04:03] Archor even [06:39] aloha [06:54] morning all [07:08] good morning [07:08] is it released yet? [07:10] Now that you asked, the release date has been moved by an hour. [07:10] jussi, ^ the bot is slow [07:11] lol [07:11] * nigelb hugs dholbach [07:16] wow [07:16] there's [07:16] http://thisisthecountdown.com/ [07:16] http://thisisntthecountdown.com/ [07:16] http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/ [07:18] heh [07:19] and that has been a totally brilliant project by the advert team [07:20] agreed [07:20] seen the line below the countdown? [07:21] what is that? [07:21] that is actually a 1px high gif [07:21] with red bars at even spacings. If you take all the black and white bits and put them on top of each other it makes a reversed QR code [07:23] which takes you to a bitly url and downloads a password protected .7z file containing the second set of casefiles or something [07:23] how the... [07:23] how did you do that? [07:23] dunno, I was going to do it in gimp but someone else did it very very fast [07:24] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14204175/qr.png [07:24] hi dpm [07:24] hey dholbach, good morning :) [07:25] morning all [07:25] This is just wow. [07:25] There's been a *lot* of effort gone into this. [07:25] yes, there was a phone number to call for one clue [07:25] and there is a video [07:27] http://worldspaceagency.org/security/cctv/recon/ === kim0|holiday is now known as kim0 [07:48] Morning everyone [07:49] Today is Oneiric day eh [07:49] hey kim0, welcome back and happy release day :) [07:53] dpm: thanks man [07:53] anyone doing something special today [08:00] hey jono [08:00] hey dholbach [08:00] jono, this one is for you: http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/ [08:01] (not sure if you've seen http://thisisthecountdown.com/ before) [08:01] yeah I saw that [08:01] pretty cool :-) [08:05] jono: isn't it too late for you :) [08:05] kim0, I am in London :-) [08:06] a ah [08:06] happy release day, folks! [08:21] heh [08:28] -release-party is already moving fast [08:31] bugger forgot my camera :/ [08:36] * dholbach just started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Social - feel free to add more to it [08:37] AlanBell: Its slower this year [08:38] dholbach: cool, perhaps adding yours jono and dpm U cast stuff there the channels? [08:39] dholbach: ohhh offical #locoteam tag (which rocks btws) [08:41] sure, feel free to add :) [08:41] will do [08:41] although my videocast has been a bit inactive lately [08:41] just need to not be in view of others editing a wiki [08:41] but for reference they're still there [08:43] wow [08:43] 1600 people in #ubuntu [08:43] is that normal? [08:59] http://ubuntuaccessibility.wordpress.com/?p=128&shareadraft=4e96a83139805 [09:01] AlanBell: looks good [09:01] I like the bit where there's feedback from the personas [09:02] yeah, I thought I would go round and interview them all :) === dpm_ is now known as dpm [13:08] can someone on android/iphone check to see if Guidebook has the new UDS on it yet? [13:08] (mine is in preview mode so I can't tell when it's published) [13:10] jcastro: still not seeing it [13:10] today seems to be a bad day for writing an article on fridge.u.c [13:11] thanks! [13:11] dholbach: Go out and support users! [13:11] post on the forums, AU, a user mailing list, etc. [13:11] I need to write this blog post first :) [13:11] dholbach: or just sit back for a moment [13:11] put on those sunglasses [13:11] and flex your muscles [13:11] :-) [13:11] * dholbach hugs jcastro [13:11] dholbach: man, we made it! [13:11] <---- didn't die [13:12] :-) [13:12] I did gain 15 lbs this cycle though [13:12] jcastro: it's not out yet [13:12] now I have to get rid of that [13:13] dholbach, is it slow? (the fridge that is) [13:14] akgraner, yep [13:15] ping the IT/IS folks they were supposed to be working on a solution to fix that - they needed to plan for its becoming popular [13:16] woah [13:16] new website is cool [13:19] dholbach, dang it - it is slow - I need to add the release announcement - boo [13:19] nigelb, you mean the tour? [13:19] dholbach: yeah [13:20] it's ....ing amazing! [13:20] heh [13:23] mhall119: NOW I can relax [13:23] dholbach: I don't know how they pulled it off. [13:23] The tour section is so full of win! [13:23] nigelb, try sending an email :) [13:24] jcastro: me too [13:24] it works? [13:24] if anyone hasn't seen http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ go check it out, it's pretty awesome [13:24] yeah, I'm sure it's full of alien technology [13:24] dholbach: +1 [13:24] Oh, ISD does do "some" work :P [13:25] * nigelb hides from mhall119 [13:25] * mhall119 kicks nigelb [13:27] mhall119: did you guys work on that? [13:27] it's basically totally awesome [13:27] jcastro: the tour? no, but it is awesome [13:27] I have no words to describe its awesomness [13:27] mhall119: Not ISD work? [13:27] nigelb: nope [13:27] I did work on https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/ which is also pretty cool though [13:28] get Wordpress, Drupal or MoinMoin setup on Ubuntu in the cloud in about 5 minutes [13:28] mhall119: Is that the one Daviey dumped on you? :P [13:28] yes [13:30] mhall119: ok so I can go ahead and tell people to try that? [13:31] jcastro: yup [13:31] is this what you worked on? [13:31] this is way cooler than a tour. :) [13:31] jcastro: the past month or so, that's what newz and I have been hacking on [13:31] awesome [13:33] that is rather impressive [13:33] is it translated too? I see a rubbish bin, not a trashcan [13:34] Yeah, I as like [13:34] drat, en_GB [13:34] AlanBell, all communications in the website are in en_GB [13:34] so everyone gets to see the rubbish bin? [13:35] yeah [13:36] win [13:36] I'm instaling stuff [13:36] wow [13:54] omgubuntu did some good stuff - http://www.thenewubuntu.com/ [13:55] oh that is sweet! [14:00] hmm site doesnt load [14:03] I started a G+ hangout [14:08] heh <3 http://lunduke.com/?p=1985 [14:08] He says "I take it back. Unity is cool." [14:08] czajkowski: it loads but sloooooooooooowwwwwwwwww, been loading for over 5 minutes now :/ [14:08] czajkowski: it's slow loading, lots of big images [14:08] Pretty sure the sever is nicely hosed :P [14:08] all thanks to you nigelb :P [14:08] unity + multi-monitor = bad juju though [14:09] I've been trying to use it, I really have .. but when you have a three-monitor setup, it's far more awkward than gnome was [14:09] pangolin: heh, I've been laughing at http://bristowe.com/blog/2011/6/15/awesome-canadian-html5-coat-of-arms-is-awesome.html [14:10] I would look but right now my ISP is freaking out at all the bandwidth I am using lol [14:10] I'm doig my 1st G+ hang out with the AWESOME jcastro [14:10] haha [14:14] nigelb: What? no hockey stick? [14:15] and I only use that word when dealing with mr. jcastro as otherwise I dislike it, but tis him and it sums jcastro up [14:16] pangolin: heh [14:50] whoa the fridge is just crawling along.. [14:54] congrats everyone on the release! [14:57] jono - this has to be the best release day yet...tell everyone in Millbank thanks! [14:58] akgraner, awesome, will do :-) [15:03] Is it go? I thought we had 3 hours [15:03] jono: hey I'm doing a release hangout [15:04] doctormo, why are you on IRC - babies trump Ubuntu releases :-P Congrats again she is awwwwdorable! [15:04] jcastro, awesome, I would join but I am in a room with a bunch of other people and I probably shouldnt disturb them [15:04] Babies need good Ubuntu releases too you know. [15:04] :-) [15:04] She is really cute though :-) [15:04] jono: right, so I was thinking in the future .... [15:05] a little webcam at millbank [15:05] and people can drop in and say hi [15:05] jcastro, how long are you going to be hanging out.... [15:06] cimi and I are just working and leaving it open [15:06] and every once in a while someone asks a question [15:06] Wow so many torrenters of the iso are being jerks and not seeding. [15:10] cause well I can't hangout until I go through hair and makeup :-P [15:10] jcastro, totally [15:10] akgraner, same here :-) [15:10] jono: you guys aren't all streaming out of the office and heading to the pub? [15:10] haha [15:10] jcastro, not yet :-) [15:12] * popey heads to london for beer [15:12] what's that jono, you're buying me a beer!? Awesome! [15:13] did someone say jono is buying beer? [15:13] ruh roh [15:13] :-) [15:14] right, see you later :D [15:55] BEER [15:55] NEED [15:56] and the cask has some yummy yummy beers [15:56] pasion fruit [15:56] banana [15:56] rasberry [15:56] strawberry [15:56] you're getting the idea right [16:00] any beer flavored ones? [16:23] alright my friends - I call it a day [16:23] see you all tomorrow [17:58] Dang it the Fridge is still unreachable [17:59] I'm sure all infrastructure is creaking right now [18:00] totally....but this is happening more and more - I'll chalk it up to release day excitement [18:01] a few grammar issues in the Oneiric release notes [18:01] :D [18:02] and I love the fact we are getting enough traffic on the Fridge now to cripple it or slow it down....which in a way is cool considering where we were a year ago [18:02] :D [18:04] akgraner: Poor Fridge [18:05] hehe [18:06] all things considered I guess it's a good thing... [18:07] not really - but I am trying to find the positives ;-) [18:09] hey daker [18:09] oops, sorry, I meant dpm [18:10] ツ [18:10] dpm: can an app make a symlink for the software center? [18:10] like, with a lens, it needs to have a .desktop file in a specific place [18:10] and being wrapped in /opt doesn't help there. :-/ [18:13] jcastro, I'm not sure. wendar, stgraber, mvo or achuni might be able to tell you more. The user's folder can also be used, I think. Can't they go to .local or somewhere like that? [18:13] oh, they can! [18:13] that actually answers my question! [18:13] oh, great, then :) [18:13] I really need to learn to stop overusing exclamation points. [18:13] ! [18:14] !!!! [18:41] jcastro: Does planet have a master feed so I can throw it into Twitter feed? [18:41] :D [18:41] jcastro, OMG you didn't tell me that test driving Ubuntu Cloud with wordpress was this cool - DUDE even I can figure this out [18:41] akgraner: I know right [18:41] and THAT is freakin cool! [18:42] and it's still too complicated, once the charm stuff is in you'll be deploying things everywhere like you install packages [18:42] *soon* [18:42] I want my own Ubuntu Cloud now not just this test instance [18:42] Bitnami + Wordpress = Winning :P [18:42] THIS IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COOOOOOL!!!!! [18:42] http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml [18:43] bkerensa: ^ [18:43] * bkerensa has his Znc, Wordpress Sites and a few other things on the cloud now :P [18:43] jcastro: Cool thanks :D [18:43] akgraner: we do bare metal too [18:43] so like, you can just deploy to your own hw [18:44] Oh really - I want to know more..../me plans on interviewing server team soon and paying more attention to this cloud stuff [18:45] I thought it was like totally to hard and technical for me - but OMG you all are making it so I can do this stuff - AMAZING!! [18:45] yeah! [18:45] though kim0 or I can explain it too [18:45] remember you said that when I bug you at UDS [18:45] akgraner: The server team is cool... I met them all at PuppetConf :) [18:45] I got nothin but spare time on fri/sat [18:45] sweet! [18:46] then you have to show me how to deploy this stuff - I want to build 2 new websites and stuff [18:47] bkerensa, the puppet folks are awesome too :-) I've got to interview a few of them - now I am totally understanding this stuff more - I used to have Nick or Pete move sites around for me [18:47] :D [18:47] I think I might actually be able to do this from start to finish using ubuntu cloud... [18:47] yeah [18:47] the problem there is [18:47] akgraner: how are my questions going? :D [18:47] you go from a simple cheap VPS bill [18:48] Love the puppet guys... They sponsored us to PuppetConf when Canonical declined :P [18:48] to nickel and dimes on amazon [18:48] hmmm [18:49] well Pete will not fund my FOSS habits - /me has to find a solution to cost then [18:49] well, ya'll have hardware already right? [18:49] like a home server and all that? [18:49] yep [18:49] yeppers [18:49] akgraner: I approached their CM after global jam and told him there was interest to have a booth and he was like well Canonical is sponsoring PuppetConf so I don't see why they wouldnt just send a e-mail around and make it happen and I was like uhh I doubt it but ok :P [18:49] and it's not horrible hw? [18:49] nope [18:50] relatively new [18:50] and sure enough two weeks letter we got a response saying nope :P but PuppetLabs said they would pick up the cost [18:50] yeah so you'll want to play with local LXC stuff [18:51] which basically means, you would deploy to that server [18:51] instead of EC2 [18:51] ahhh ok [18:51] but juju won't care, the commands and stuff are exactly the same [18:51] JuJu :) [18:52] oh cool - /me goes back through cloud.ubuntu.com and reads kim0's posts [18:52] actually, it's all lowecase [18:52] I got a talking to by the branding police. :p [18:52] jcastro, hehe yeah they are everywhere :-) [18:53] branding police are scary [18:53] bkerensa, glad it was a good experience for you - I've interviewed Luke a few times and he is so patient when explaining stuff to me... [18:53] jcastro: :) better the branding police then the external critics [18:54] I assure you, with a name like juju ..... [18:54] there are plenty of critics [18:54] haha [18:54] akgraner: you are a great listener though [18:54] thanks! I try [18:55] jcastro, I'll get back to you if I get stuck or totally don't understand something [18:55] gotta go pick the kids up [18:55] cooh [18:55] akgraner: Full server team http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/6241547400/in/photostream <--- I think thats everyone not sure [18:55] the server teeam is definately one team you dont want to annoy... :D [18:56] jussi: Yeah people tried to flame juju at puppetconf [18:56] and the Canonical guys uhh did a decent job of defending the product [18:56] :P [19:56] ok I think my head is going to explode reading about all this cloud stuff is like drinking from a firehose... [20:55] jcastro, I am so hooked on this stuff - if I bring a server with me to UDS you going help me set it up? (just kidding - but seriously what do I need to bring so that I can learn the most from you and kim0) [20:55] crap gotta run back to the kids school and drop off flags..grrr. bbiab [21:27] akgraner: digital voice recorder and note pad :D [21:31] bkerensa, I always have those with me :-) [21:44] jcastro, kim0 can I just tell you guys that I am so happy Ubuntu Cloud *can be* for regular end users like me :-) I thought it was only for uber geeks...y'all just made my day today! [21:44] ok so maybe *regular* doesn't describe me but you know what I mean [23:26] evening all [23:26] I saw pgraner earlier akgraner [23:28] oh cool - how was he , I've only seen him about 6 days more than you this month :-P [23:29] AlanBell, I hope he was in good spirits (yes there is a pun in there somewhere) [23:30] How was the release party - fun I hope! I have to miss the NC team one this weekend :-( My daughter has a band competition... [23:31] he seemed on good form :) [23:32] it was great fun, really good turnout [23:32] :-) [23:39] AlanBell: good millbank turn out?