[00:12] <akgraner> jcastro - I create a news and leadership team blueprint - made jono approver - can you look over them to just make sure their in the right format? - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-leadership-team and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-news-team-goals
[00:13] <jono> hey akgraner
[00:13] <akgraner> jcastro just realized I can add them to you "todo" card muahahaha :-)
[00:13] <akgraner> hey jono!
[00:13] <jono> hows things?
[00:14] <akgraner> good :-)  you're up late aren't you?
[00:14] <jono> akgraner, yeah, just wrapping some things up
[00:14] <akgraner> I liked your death metal memories  - I think I teared up a bit...:-P
[00:15] <jono> akgraner, hehe :-)
[00:15] <akgraner> looks like you're getting a lot of feedback on the survey! \o/ yay for that...I haven't submitted anything yet, I can't think of anything I need to add to the conversation
[00:18] <jono> akgraner, yeah, there has been a lot of content coming in, lots of emails too
[00:18] <akgraner> great! :-)
[00:18] <jono> and I spent a lot of time this week on calls with folks to get data too
[00:18] <jono> it has been my mini-obsession over the last week
[00:19] <akgraner> jono - thanks for the comment on my blog...I wasn't trying to bag on you..hope you know that.
[00:19] <jono> akgraner, np
[00:19] <akgraner> :-)
[00:20] <akgraner> I personally can't wait to see what you've uncovered - thanks for working on the survey and all the time you are putting into it
[00:20] <jono> well, I just want to ensure I can get the best possible sense of community perspective
[00:21] <jono> I don't want to make any assumptions
[00:22] <jono> my goal is to report the findings with some proposed solutions
[00:23] <jono> I already have some things I am keen to do to help fix things
[00:23] <jono> one such thing will be IRC meetings for my team
[00:23] <akgraner> :-) I'm glad - I think that the results may surprise many people...I think that Familiarity  Breeds Contempt - sorta like when developers work on stuff and know all the areas that are broken sometimes you can't see past the broken-ness and you don't see how awesome the whole of the distro is...
[00:23] <jono> to provide a better sense of what the team is doing
[00:23] <jono> yeah the survey has been insightful so far
[00:24] <akgraner> I know for me, personally, I think I got caught up in seeing the community with tunnel vision...so I was missing the whole of the awesomeness, as look back in hindsight
[00:24] <akgraner> as I look back...
[00:25] <akgraner> that's not to say there aren't areas that can be improved upon -  just sometimes it's good to take a set back and take in the whole view of the Grand Canyon and not just the edge of the cliff :-)
[00:26] <akgraner> s/can/can't
[00:26] <akgraner> s/set/step
[00:26] <akgraner> jeez I can't type tonight - sorry about that
[00:26] <jono> yeah, I think there is so much goodwill
[00:27] <jono> but there is plenty I can improve on, my team, and Canonical
[00:27] <jono> it's healthy to be reflective
[00:27] <jono> so this has been an interesting week ;-)
[00:27] <akgraner> totally :-)  and Thank you !
[00:28] <jono> thanks, akgraner, I hope it helps
[00:29] <akgraner> me too :-)  if there is anything you need from me , the news team, or leadership team let me/us know
[00:31] <jono> thanks akgraner
[00:31] <jono> I just sent a reminder to all those who have not yet responded
[00:31] <jono> (the survey)
[00:32] <akgraner> :-) is that a hint...
[00:33] <jono> lol
[00:33] <jono> don't worry if you are busy, akgraner
[03:18] <nigelb> maco: hahaha
[03:18] <nigelb> jcastro: nice post!
[03:21] <doctormo> Jono's post is easily is it not? I see no 11.10 release
[03:21] <nigelb> doctormo: CONGRATS!
[03:22] <doctormo> nigelb: Thanks :-D
[03:42] <jcastro> doctormo: congrats!
[03:42] <jcastro> get off irc!
[03:42] <jcastro> akgraner: sly move there, well done!
[03:42] <nigelb> lol
[03:44] <akgraner> jcastro, :-) thanks!
[03:45] <doctormo> jcastro: I'm home resting up, actually about to go to bed.
[03:51] <akgraner> doctormo, CONGRATULATIONS!!!  \o/
[03:54] <greg-g> doctormo: CONGRATS indeed! :)
[03:54]  * greg-g 's is coming in December
[03:54] <nigelb> ahh, nice!
[03:54] <nigelb> greg-g: congrats :)
[03:55] <akgraner> jcastro, love that post and the about.me that was fun!
[03:55] <jcastro> ya
[03:55] <jcastro> it was awesome, and then it got by AOL
[03:55] <jcastro> but luckily, they didn't mess with it
[03:55] <nigelb> Like maco said, my moustache might be offended there :P
[03:55] <akgraner> jcastro, you are a fun tool finding magnet these last few days
[03:56] <jcastro> I AM INTO TOOLS
[03:56]  * akgraner resists the urge to say something totally inappropriate :-)
[03:57] <nigelb> lol
[03:57] <jcastro> I said that just to torture you
[03:57] <akgraner> yeah I know :-P
[03:57] <nigelb> akgraner: lyz said it right last night
[03:57] <nigelb> --> "I have tool porn!" is my new favorite jcastroism
[03:58] <akgraner> totally....
[03:58] <akgraner> from the book of jcastro
[03:59] <jcastro> consider me your lifehacker!
[03:59] <akgraner> my favorite is - "Dude, just do s@#$!"
[04:00] <akgraner> I have it on a post-it note on my desk and in my calendar....:-)
[04:00] <akgraner> it makes me smile :-)
[04:01] <jcastro> hah
[04:02] <jcastro> did I actually ever say that?
[04:02] <jcastro> that sounds too positive a thing for me to say
[04:02] <nigelb> ^ that needs quoting
[04:02] <nigelb> "Did I actually ever say that?" - jcastro
[04:02] <akgraner> jcastro, yep you said that!
[04:03] <akgraner> to quote Archer <jazz hands> Amazing </jazz hands>
[04:03] <akgraner> Archor even
[06:39] <czajkowski> aloha
[06:54] <AlanBell> morning all
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:08] <dholbach> is it released yet?
[07:10] <nigelb> Now that you asked, the release date has been moved by an hour.
[07:10] <dholbach> jussi, ^ the bot is slow
[07:11] <nigelb> lol
[07:11]  * nigelb hugs dholbach 
[07:16] <dholbach> wow
[07:16] <dholbach> there's
[07:16] <dholbach> http://thisisthecountdown.com/
[07:16] <dholbach> http://thisisntthecountdown.com/
[07:16] <dholbach> http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/
[07:18] <nigelb> heh
[07:19] <AlanBell> and that has been a totally brilliant project by the advert team
[07:20] <nigelb> agreed
[07:20] <AlanBell> seen the line below the countdown?
[07:21] <nigelb> what is that?
[07:21] <AlanBell> that is actually a 1px high gif
[07:21] <AlanBell> with red bars at even spacings. If you take all the black and white bits and put them on top of each other it makes a reversed QR code
[07:23] <AlanBell> which takes you to a bitly url and downloads a password protected .7z file containing the second set of casefiles or something
[07:23] <nigelb> how the...
[07:23] <nigelb> how did you do that?
[07:23] <AlanBell> dunno, I was going to do it in gimp but someone else did it very very fast
[07:24] <AlanBell> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14204175/qr.png
[07:24] <dholbach> hi dpm
[07:24] <dpm> hey dholbach, good morning :)
[07:25] <dpm> morning all
[07:25] <nigelb> This is just wow.
[07:25] <nigelb> There's been a *lot* of effort gone into this.
[07:25] <AlanBell> yes, there was a phone number to call for one clue
[07:25] <AlanBell> and there is a video
[07:27] <AlanBell> http://worldspaceagency.org/security/cctv/recon/
[07:48] <kim0> Morning everyone
[07:49] <kim0> Today is Oneiric day eh
[07:49] <dpm> hey kim0, welcome back and happy release day :)
[07:53] <kim0> dpm: thanks man
[07:53] <kim0> anyone doing something special today
[08:00] <dholbach> hey jono
[08:00] <jono> hey dholbach
[08:00] <dholbach> jono, this one is for you: http://thisisthefinalcountdown.com/
[08:01] <dholbach> (not sure if you've seen http://thisisthecountdown.com/ before)
[08:01] <jono> yeah I saw that
[08:01] <jono> pretty cool :-)
[08:05] <kim0> jono: isn't it too late for you :)
[08:05] <jono> kim0, I am in London :-)
[08:06] <kim0> a ah
[08:06] <jono> happy release day, folks!
[08:21] <czajkowski> heh
[08:28] <AlanBell> -release-party is already moving fast
[08:31] <czajkowski> bugger forgot my camera  :/
[08:36]  * dholbach just started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Social - feel free to add more to it
[08:37] <nigelb> AlanBell: Its slower this year
[08:38] <czajkowski> dholbach: cool, perhaps adding yours jono and dpm U cast stuff there the channels?
[08:39] <czajkowski> dholbach: ohhh offical #locoteam tag (which rocks btws)
[08:41] <dholbach> sure, feel free to add :)
[08:41] <czajkowski> will do
[08:41] <dholbach> although my videocast has been a bit inactive lately
[08:41] <czajkowski> just need to not be in view of others editing a wiki
[08:41] <czajkowski> but for reference they're still there
[08:43] <nigelb> wow
[08:43] <nigelb> 1600 people in #ubuntu
[08:43] <nigelb> is that normal?
[08:59] <AlanBell> http://ubuntuaccessibility.wordpress.com/?p=128&shareadraft=4e96a83139805
[09:01] <nigelb> AlanBell: looks good
[09:01] <nigelb> I like the bit where there's feedback from the personas
[09:02] <AlanBell> yeah, I thought I would go round and interview them all :)
[13:08] <jcastro> can someone on android/iphone check to see if Guidebook has the new UDS on it yet?
[13:08] <jcastro> (mine is in preview mode so I can't tell when it's published)
[13:10] <Pendulum> jcastro: still not seeing it
[13:10] <dholbach> today seems to be a bad day for writing an article on fridge.u.c
[13:11] <jcastro> thanks!
[13:11] <jcastro> dholbach: Go out and support users!
[13:11] <jcastro> post on the forums, AU, a user mailing list, etc.
[13:11] <dholbach> I need to write this blog post first :)
[13:11] <jcastro> dholbach: or just sit back for a moment
[13:11] <jcastro> put on those sunglasses
[13:11] <jcastro> and flex your muscles
[13:11] <dholbach> :-)
[13:11]  * dholbach hugs jcastro
[13:11] <jcastro> dholbach: man, we made it!
[13:11] <jcastro> <---- didn't die
[13:12] <dholbach> :-)
[13:12] <jcastro> I did gain 15 lbs this cycle though
[13:12] <mhall119> jcastro: it's not out yet
[13:12] <jcastro> now I have to get rid of that
[13:13] <akgraner> dholbach, is it slow? (the fridge that is)
[13:14] <dholbach> akgraner, yep
[13:15] <akgraner> ping the IT/IS folks they were supposed to be working on a solution to fix that - they needed to plan for its becoming popular
[13:16] <nigelb> woah
[13:16] <nigelb> new website is cool
[13:19] <akgraner> dholbach, dang it - it is slow - I need to add the release announcement  - boo
[13:19] <dholbach> nigelb, you mean the tour?
[13:19] <nigelb> dholbach: yeah
[13:20] <dholbach> it's ....ing amazing!
[13:20] <nigelb> heh
[13:23] <jcastro> mhall119: NOW I can relax
[13:23] <nigelb> dholbach: I don't know how they pulled it off.
[13:23] <nigelb> The tour section is so full of win!
[13:23] <dholbach> nigelb, try sending an email :)
[13:24] <mhall119> jcastro: me too
[13:24] <nigelb> it works?
[13:24] <mhall119> if anyone hasn't seen http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ go check it out, it's pretty awesome
[13:24] <dholbach> yeah, I'm sure it's full of alien technology
[13:24] <mhall119> dholbach: +1
[13:24] <nigelb> Oh, ISD does do "some" work :P
[13:25]  * nigelb hides from mhall119 
[13:25]  * mhall119 kicks nigelb
[13:27] <jcastro> mhall119: did you guys work on that?
[13:27] <jcastro> it's basically totally awesome
[13:27] <mhall119> jcastro: the tour? no, but it is awesome
[13:27] <nigelb> I have no words to describe its awesomness
[13:27] <nigelb> mhall119: Not ISD work?
[13:27] <mhall119> nigelb: nope
[13:27] <mhall119> I did work on https://try.cloud.ubuntu.com/ which is also pretty cool though
[13:28] <mhall119> get Wordpress, Drupal or MoinMoin setup on Ubuntu in the cloud in about 5 minutes
[13:28] <nigelb> mhall119: Is that the one Daviey dumped on you? :P
[13:28] <mhall119> yes
[13:30] <jcastro> mhall119: ok so I can go ahead and tell people to try that?
[13:31] <mhall119> jcastro: yup
[13:31] <jcastro> is this what you worked on?
[13:31] <jcastro> this is way cooler than a tour. :)
[13:31] <mhall119> jcastro: the past month or so, that's what newz and I have been hacking on
[13:31] <jcastro> awesome
[13:33] <AlanBell> that is rather impressive
[13:33] <AlanBell> is it translated too? I see a rubbish bin, not a trashcan
[13:34] <nigelb> Yeah, I as like
[13:34] <nigelb> drat, en_GB
[13:34] <dpm> AlanBell, all communications in the website are in en_GB
[13:34] <AlanBell> so everyone gets to see the rubbish bin?
[13:35] <nigelb> yeah
[13:36] <popey> win
[13:36] <nigelb> I'm instaling stuff
[13:36] <nigelb> wow
[13:54] <nigelb> omgubuntu did some good stuff - http://www.thenewubuntu.com/
[13:55] <akgraner> oh that is sweet!
[14:00] <czajkowski> hmm site doesnt load
[14:03] <jcastro> I started a G+ hangout
[14:08] <nigelb> heh <3 http://lunduke.com/?p=1985
[14:08] <nigelb> He says "I take it back. Unity is cool."
[14:08] <pangolin> czajkowski: it loads but sloooooooooooowwwwwwwwww, been loading for over 5 minutes now :/
[14:08] <mhall119> czajkowski: it's slow loading, lots of big images
[14:08] <nigelb> Pretty sure the sever is nicely hosed :P
[14:08] <pangolin> all thanks to you nigelb :P
[14:08] <Martyn> unity + multi-monitor = bad juju though
[14:09] <Martyn> I've been trying to use it, I really have .. but when you have a three-monitor setup, it's far more awkward than gnome was
[14:09] <nigelb> pangolin: heh, I've been laughing at http://bristowe.com/blog/2011/6/15/awesome-canadian-html5-coat-of-arms-is-awesome.html
[14:10] <pangolin> I would look but right now my ISP is freaking out at all the bandwidth I am using lol
[14:10] <czajkowski> I'm doig my 1st G+ hang out with the AWESOME jcastro
[14:10] <nigelb> haha
[14:14] <pangolin> nigelb: What? no hockey stick?
[14:15] <czajkowski> and I only use that word when dealing with mr. jcastro as otherwise I dislike it, but tis him and it sums jcastro up
[14:16] <nigelb> pangolin: heh
[14:50] <akgraner> whoa the fridge is just crawling along..
[14:54] <jono> congrats everyone on the release!
[14:57] <akgraner> jono - this has to be the best release day yet...tell everyone in Millbank thanks!
[14:58] <jono> akgraner, awesome, will do :-)
[15:03] <doctormo> Is it go? I thought we had 3 hours
[15:03] <jcastro> jono: hey I'm doing a release hangout
[15:04] <akgraner> doctormo, why are you on IRC  - babies trump Ubuntu releases :-P  Congrats again she is awwwwdorable!
[15:04] <jono> jcastro, awesome, I would join but I am in a room with a bunch of other people and I probably shouldnt disturb them
[15:04] <doctormo> Babies need good Ubuntu releases too you know.
[15:04] <akgraner> :-)
[15:04] <doctormo> She is really cute though :-)
[15:04] <jcastro> jono: right, so I was thinking in the future ....
[15:05] <jcastro> a little webcam at millbank
[15:05] <jcastro> and people can drop in and say hi
[15:05] <akgraner> jcastro, how long are you going to be hanging out....
[15:06] <jcastro> cimi and I are just working and leaving it open
[15:06] <jcastro> and every once in a while someone asks a question
[15:06] <doctormo> Wow so many torrenters of the iso are being jerks and not seeding.
[15:10] <akgraner> cause well I can't hangout until I go through hair and makeup :-P
[15:10] <jono> jcastro, totally
[15:10] <jono> akgraner, same here :-)
[15:10] <jcastro> jono: you guys aren't all streaming out of the office and heading to the pub?
[15:10] <akgraner> haha
[15:10] <jono> jcastro, not yet :-)
[15:12]  * popey heads to london for beer
[15:12] <popey> what's that jono, you're buying me a beer!? Awesome!
[15:13] <jcastro> did someone say jono is buying beer?
[15:13] <jono> ruh roh
[15:13] <jono> :-)
[15:14] <popey> right, see you later :D
[15:55] <czajkowski> BEER
[15:55] <czajkowski> NEED
[15:56] <czajkowski> and the cask has some yummy yummy beers
[15:56] <czajkowski> pasion fruit
[15:56] <czajkowski> banana
[15:56] <czajkowski> rasberry
[15:56] <czajkowski> strawberry
[15:56] <czajkowski> you're getting the idea right
[16:00] <mhall119> any beer flavored ones?
[16:23] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[16:23] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:58] <akgraner> Dang it the Fridge is still unreachable
[17:59] <jcastro> I'm sure all infrastructure is creaking right now
[18:00] <akgraner> totally....but this is happening more and more - I'll chalk it up to release day excitement
[18:01] <bkerensa> a few grammar issues in the Oneiric release notes
[18:01] <bkerensa> :D
[18:02] <akgraner> and I love the fact we are getting enough traffic on the Fridge now  to cripple it or slow it down....which in a way is cool considering where we were a year ago
[18:02] <bkerensa> :D
[18:04] <bkerensa> akgraner: Poor Fridge
[18:05] <akgraner> hehe
[18:06] <akgraner> all things considered I guess it's a good thing...
[18:07] <akgraner> not really - but I am trying to find the positives ;-)
[18:09] <jcastro> hey daker
[18:09] <jcastro> oops, sorry, I meant dpm
[18:10] <daker> ツ
[18:10] <jcastro> dpm: can an app make a symlink for the software center?
[18:10] <jcastro> like, with a lens, it needs to have a .desktop file in a specific place
[18:10] <jcastro> and being wrapped in /opt doesn't help there. :-/
[18:13] <dpm> jcastro, I'm not sure. wendar, stgraber, mvo or achuni might be able to tell you more. The user's folder can also be used, I think. Can't they go to .local or somewhere like that?
[18:13] <jcastro> oh, they can!
[18:13] <jcastro> that actually answers my question!
[18:13] <dpm> oh, great, then :)
[18:13] <jcastro> I really need to learn to stop overusing exclamation points.
[18:13] <jcastro> !
[18:14] <jussi> !!!!
[18:41] <bkerensa> jcastro: Does planet have a master feed so I can throw it into Twitter feed?
[18:41] <bkerensa> :D
[18:41] <akgraner> jcastro, OMG you didn't tell me that test driving Ubuntu Cloud with wordpress was this cool - DUDE even I can figure this out
[18:41] <jcastro> akgraner: I know right
[18:41] <akgraner> and THAT is freakin cool!
[18:42] <jcastro> and it's still too complicated, once the charm stuff is in you'll be deploying things everywhere like you install packages
[18:42] <jcastro> *soon*
[18:42] <akgraner> I want my own Ubuntu Cloud now not just this test instance
[18:42] <bkerensa> Bitnami + Wordpress = Winning :P
[18:42] <akgraner> THIS IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COOOOOOL!!!!!
[18:42] <jcastro> http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml
[18:43] <jcastro> bkerensa: ^
[18:43]  * bkerensa has his Znc, Wordpress Sites and a few other things on the cloud now :P
[18:43] <bkerensa> jcastro: Cool thanks :D
[18:43] <jcastro> akgraner: we do bare metal too
[18:43] <jcastro> so like, you can just deploy to your own hw
[18:44] <akgraner> Oh really - I want to know more..../me plans on interviewing server team soon and paying more attention to this cloud stuff
[18:45] <akgraner> I thought it was like totally to hard and technical for me - but OMG you all are making it so I can do this stuff - AMAZING!!
[18:45] <jcastro> yeah!
[18:45] <jcastro> though kim0 or I can explain it too
[18:45] <akgraner> remember you said that when I bug you at UDS
[18:45] <bkerensa> akgraner: The server team is cool... I met them all at PuppetConf :)
[18:45] <jcastro> I got nothin but spare time on fri/sat
[18:45] <akgraner> sweet!
[18:46] <akgraner> then you have to show me how to deploy this stuff - I want to build 2 new websites and stuff
[18:47] <akgraner> bkerensa, the puppet folks are awesome too :-)  I've got to interview a few of them - now I am totally understanding this stuff more - I used to have Nick or Pete move sites around for me
[18:47] <bkerensa> :D
[18:47] <akgraner> I think I might actually be able to do this from start to finish using ubuntu cloud...
[18:47] <jcastro> yeah
[18:47] <jcastro> the problem there is
[18:47] <jussi> akgraner: how are my questions going? :D
[18:47] <jcastro> you go from a simple cheap VPS bill
[18:48] <bkerensa> Love the puppet guys... They sponsored us to PuppetConf when Canonical declined :P
[18:48] <jcastro> to nickel and dimes on amazon
[18:48] <akgraner> hmmm
[18:49] <akgraner> well Pete will not fund my FOSS habits - /me has to find a solution to cost then
[18:49] <jcastro> well, ya'll have hardware already right?
[18:49] <jcastro> like a home server and all that?
[18:49] <akgraner> yep
[18:49] <akgraner> yeppers
[18:49] <bkerensa> akgraner: I approached their CM after global jam and told him there was interest to have a booth and he was like well Canonical is sponsoring PuppetConf so I don't see why they wouldnt just send a e-mail around and make it happen and I was like uhh I doubt it but ok :P
[18:49] <jcastro> and it's not horrible hw?
[18:49] <akgraner> nope
[18:50] <akgraner> relatively new
[18:50] <bkerensa> and sure enough two weeks letter we got a response saying nope :P but PuppetLabs said they would pick up the cost
[18:50] <jcastro> yeah so you'll want to play with local LXC stuff
[18:51] <jcastro> which basically means, you would deploy to that server
[18:51] <jcastro> instead of EC2
[18:51] <akgraner> ahhh ok
[18:51] <jcastro> but juju won't care, the commands and stuff are exactly the same
[18:51] <bkerensa> JuJu :)
[18:52] <akgraner> oh cool - /me goes back through cloud.ubuntu.com and reads kim0's posts
[18:52] <jcastro> actually, it's all lowecase
[18:52] <jcastro> I got a talking to by the branding police. :p
[18:52] <akgraner> jcastro, hehe yeah they are everywhere :-)
[18:53] <jussi> branding police are scary
[18:53] <akgraner> bkerensa, glad it was a good experience for you  - I've interviewed Luke a few times and he is so patient when explaining stuff to me...
[18:53] <bkerensa> jcastro: :) better the branding police then the external critics
[18:54] <jcastro> I assure you, with a name like juju .....
[18:54] <jcastro> there are plenty of critics
[18:54] <akgraner> haha
[18:54] <jussi> akgraner: you are a great listener though
[18:54] <akgraner> thanks!  I try
[18:55] <akgraner> jcastro, I'll get back to you if I get stuck or totally don't understand something
[18:55] <akgraner> gotta go pick the kids up
[18:55] <jcastro> cooh
[18:55] <bkerensa> akgraner: Full server team http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/6241547400/in/photostream <--- I think thats everyone not sure
[18:55] <jussi> the server teeam is definately one team you dont want to annoy... :D
[18:56] <bkerensa> jussi: Yeah people tried to flame juju at puppetconf
[18:56] <bkerensa> and the Canonical guys uhh did a decent job of defending the product
[18:56] <bkerensa> :P
[19:56] <akgraner> ok I think my head is going to explode reading about all this cloud stuff is like drinking from a firehose...
[20:55] <akgraner> jcastro, I am so hooked on this stuff - if I bring a server with me to UDS you going help me set it up?  (just kidding  - but seriously what do I need to bring so that I can learn the most from you and kim0)
[20:55] <akgraner> crap gotta run back to the kids school and drop off flags..grrr. bbiab
[21:27] <bkerensa> akgraner: digital voice recorder and note pad :D
[21:31] <akgraner> bkerensa, I always have those with me :-)
[21:44] <akgraner> jcastro, kim0 can I just tell you guys that I am so happy Ubuntu Cloud *can be* for regular end users like me :-) I thought it was only for uber geeks...y'all just made my day today!
[21:44] <akgraner> ok so maybe *regular* doesn't describe me but you know what I mean
[23:26] <AlanBell> evening all
[23:26] <AlanBell> I saw pgraner earlier akgraner
[23:28] <akgraner> oh cool - how was he , I've only seen him about 6 days more than you this month  :-P
[23:29] <akgraner> AlanBell, I hope he was in good spirits (yes there is a pun in there somewhere)
[23:30] <akgraner> How was the release party - fun I hope!  I have to miss the NC team one this weekend :-(  My daughter has a band competition...
[23:31] <AlanBell> he seemed on good form :)
[23:32] <AlanBell> it was great fun, really good turnout
[23:32] <akgraner> :-)
[23:39] <jcastro> AlanBell: good millbank turn out?