[08:39] <billybigrigger> hey all, im looking to dedicate a machine to my television, just wondering if all i want to do is play the movies i have on my hdd, like without the pvr features of mythbuntu, is it a waste of time?
[08:39] <billybigrigger> like is it overload, should i just stick it out with natty?
[16:03] <yunosh> hi, i see that bluetooth support is removed from network manager in oneiric by default. why is this and is easily to re-add?
[16:05] <yunosh> brb
[16:13] <tgm4883> yunosh, it should be easy to add again, since we removed just the bluetooth packages
[16:13] <yunosh> ah, okay, it's sufficiently modular. great.
[16:13] <tgm4883> yunosh, it was removed, because we needed to free up some disk space and most people don't use bluetooth with their media centre
[16:14] <tgm4883> superm1, that is correct right, should just need to readd the packages
[16:14] <tgm4883> we might want to do a writeup on that
[16:14] <yunosh> what do most people use for wireless keyboards and mice if not bluetooth?
[16:14] <tgm4883> yunosh, most people don't use mice and keyboards
[16:14] <tgm4883> most use IR remote controls
[16:14] <yunosh> true
[16:18] <superm1> tgm4883, yes that's correct
[16:18] <superm1> yunosh, just need to apt-get install gnome-bluetooth and you're fine
[16:20] <yunosh> gnome? even for xfce? oh, and btw, wasn't next mythbuntu version supposed to use a new window manager? or is that for 12.04?
[16:20] <superm1> yunosh, well just because it's called gnome-bluetooth doesn't mean we can't use it
[16:21] <superm1> xfce doesn't have it's own bluetooth implementation
[16:21] <superm1> we haven't explored using any new window managers afaik
[16:21] <yunosh> just wondering
[16:21] <superm1> xfce has been fine for what it's needed to do i thinks
[16:22] <yunosh> weird. dunno where i heard about the wm change
[16:22] <superm1> if there is a compelling reason to do it, we could explore the option though
[16:34] <tgm4883> yunosh, did you hear about lightdm vs gdm maybe?
[16:34] <yunosh> hm, yeah, maybe i mixed this up the display manager
[20:15] <altj> is anyone else seeing "rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker." when trying to torrent the mythbuntu isos?
[20:15] <tgm4883> altj, I've not heard it, and I haven't checked it since I'm at work
[20:19] <altj> I've been seeing it all day today with bittornado.  I was able to successfully torrent w/ktorrent.
[20:20] <tgm4883> altj, odd
[20:20] <tgm4883> canonical makes the torrent and hosts the tracker, so you might want to see if you have similar issues with the ubuntu torrents
[20:21] <altj> the other ubuntu torrents work fine
[20:21] <altj> (didn't try kubuntu,xubuntu,lubuntu)
[21:42] <DaveMorris> congraz on another fine release btw guys
[21:43] <DaveMorris> just looking through the release notes and it mentions controlling mythbuntu from an Android device
[21:43] <DaveMorris> is that simply controlling the Mythfrontend or also controlling the whole desktop?
[21:44] <superm1> just mythfrontend
[21:45] <DaveMorris> so mythmote then
[21:45] <superm1> yeah
[21:46] <superm1> it's just offering another way for people without remotes really
[21:46] <DaveMorris> I've been using it for a while now, quite nice.  Just been looking for something to control Gnome with
[21:46] <DaveMorris> not made my mind up yet
[21:46] <superm1> well you can always use vnc for that
[21:46] <superm1> it's just a bit clunky
[21:47] <DaveMorris> yeah, I find my little logitech keyboard (The one you use two thumbs on) suitable and not looked to hard yet
[21:48] <DaveMorris> been playing with squeezebox running on my frontend instead