[00:17] RoAkSoAx: if those cobbler changes get uploaded, a quick fix in orchestra-import-isos should keep the cache updated over time: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707071/ [00:33] hi guys how do i loadbalance two apache web server only..? any idea guys please [01:47] I'm in the market for a build bot. Any opinions/suggestions? My rough functional requirements are http://paste.debian.net/136152/ === med_out is now known as medberry === medberry is now known as med_out [03:25] Anyone got recommendation to any good tutorials covering mail server on Ubuntu-server? [03:28] socomm: the ubuntu server guide [03:52] twb: thx I will start there [04:25] adam_g: lol ok === passion is now known as Guest97039 [05:28] Anybody free to help diagnose a dns problem? [05:28] !anybody [05:28] A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [05:36] OK. First time irc user. I have been using a server for DHCP and dynamic DNS with BIND for some time. I "demoted" the server to a dhcp client when I purchased a new server. The new server works great, al the clients are resolveable *except* the old dhcp server. I thought that I've scrubbed it clean but when restarting networking, I keep getting "DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.59.3 (192.168.59.2) from 00:06:4f:4f:59:2f via eth1" [05:36] where 192.168.59.2 was the old static ip of the old server and is now the new static ip of the new server. I've assigned 192.168.59.3 in dhcpd.conf: [05:36] host pe4400.crmeng.lan { [05:36] hardware ethernet 00:06:4f:4f:59:2f; [05:36] fixed-address 192.168.59.3; [05:36] default-lease-time 86400; [05:36] max-lease-time 86400; [05:36] } [05:37] So what's the problem [05:37] The old server's name pe4400 is not resolveable anywhere except on itself. [05:39] It gets the right ip address, but bind ignores it. I've added "send host-name "";" to the old server's dhclient.conf to no avail [05:46] You understand that host names provided by DHCP clients, don't necessarily propagate to the DNS server? [05:52] Yes, but the server is set up for dhcp/dns server with dynamic dns (see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=730717 for an example set up). All of the dhcp clients are resolveable by their FQDN's *except* the old server. I'm not using caching, so where is the "memory" of the old server's MAC coming from? [05:54] Is the old server acting as a DHCP client? Is it an *ubuntu* (not debian) server? [05:54] Yes [05:54] The format "" is an ubuntu-specific patch [05:54] crmccreary: OK, not sure then [05:55] I use dnsmasq, not bind, so I'm not sure how to do much more diagnostics [05:55] Ubuntu - DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS" === newbie is now known as Guest80603 === gustav- is now known as beerbroy [07:38] Hello all [07:39] I just did 'service mysql stop' and 'service mysql start... start hung so I ctrl-Ced out of it [07:39] Then I did 'service mysql start' and it worked [07:39] but none of the php sites on this server can establish a db connection [07:40] ... okay, weird. [07:40] stopped and started the service again, now it works === kim0|holiday is now known as kim0 [08:01] New bug: #873194 in xinetd (main) "UDPINT" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873194 [08:01] New bug: #873195 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8.4 failed to install/upgrade: there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873195 [08:03] Hello! [08:03] i need some ideas for a (Config)-File Deployment strategie for multiple ubuntu/linux server. [08:04] morning all [08:04] has anyone an idea or a nice project? [08:05] spiekey: there are a few options - puppet or chef provide good configuration management toolsets for individual servers [08:05] if you want todo something at a higher level with co-ordination across servers you might like to take a look a juju [08:06] #873198 [08:06] bug #873198 [08:06] that's a rather annoying one [08:13] how long does it take from a bug is filed till it becomes public? [08:14] RoyK, not normally that long - was it specifically marked private? [08:17] ah. dunno why it was [08:18] bug #873198 [08:18] Launchpad bug 873198 in grub2 "grub.cfg is not updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873198 [08:26] RoyK: It was marked private because it was marked security. [08:27] ah [08:27] it's security-related, but not a big hole, unless you consider running a 1YO kernel a major security issue - it might be... [08:51] RoyK: Heck, running an up-to-date kernel is probably a major security issue. [08:57] :( [08:58] we should devote this release to Dennis Ritchie [08:58] Yeah, I just heards about it, too :( [09:07] hey all [09:09] i have the following problem: i have installed another ubuntu server 10.04 LTS , i had a problem connecting via putty over ssh ( always said access denied ). then i set protocol to v2 only and it worked but after a while i get a network error message and putty disconnects, then i cant connect anymore no matter what protocl version i chose i always get a access denied error after auth [09:13] chris-: If I had to guess (and I guess I do), you have another host with the same IP on the network. [09:13] chris-: ..and the fact that changing to v2 fixed it is a coincidence. [09:14] chris-: The disconnection is caused by the other host suddenly getting the network packets and sending back an RST (because it doesn't recognise the connection). [09:14] chris-: ..and now you're back to not being able to auth because you're talking to a host different from the one you're expeting. [09:14] expecting, even. [09:15] I can't quite explain why you're not getting SSH host key errors, though. [09:15] Are these machince built from an image? [09:15] chris-: So they could potentially have the same SSH host key? [09:17] soren, no its a fresh install [09:18] soren, when i reboot the server i can connect to it again until i get disconnected for some reason ( maye after about 30mins ) [09:23] soren, funny u seem to be right [09:24] i am installing the machine remote and have been given the ip configuration i should make by the admins [09:24] soren, seems like they made a mistake , i shut down the server and can still ping the ip adress, so theres probably another device here [09:29] soren, u were right just called the admin and he made a mistake - theres another device with this ip haha. funny i didnt think of this myself. thanks a lot mate ;) [09:29] * soren pats his crystal ball [09:29] Comes in handy every so often. [09:29] chris-: You're welcome. [09:30] I still wonder about those ssh host keys, though. [09:35] hehehe :) === smb` is now known as smb [10:01] New bug: #873243 in nova (main) "nova-compute-xen depends on xen-linux-system which does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873243 [10:04] morning everybody!! [10:43] koolhead17: morning [10:45] hello lynxman :) [10:53] jamespage: around? [10:53] jamespage: when you get this, how did bug 870244 go? [10:54] Launchpad bug 870244 in dovecot "mail-stack-delivery package install needs to restart dovecot" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/870244 [10:54] Daviey: sure am [10:54] hmm - not much progress [10:54] lemme just see where I got to [10:57] cool [11:08] Daviey: sorry - dovecot fell of my list for some reason [11:09] I hit an issue with restarting dovecot - just testing again now === beerbroy is now known as beerbro [11:23] Daviey: see my comment on bug 870244 - ATM restarting or stop/starting is a bit unreliable [11:23] Launchpad bug 870244 in dovecot "mail-stack-delivery package install needs to restart dovecot" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/870244 [11:31] jamespage: I think we need to add this to the release notes for Oneiric.. and fix it in P.. [11:31] not sure it's worth SRU'ing.. agree? [11:38] jamespage: hey. how did you associated set of floating IP to a project? Currently i been manully adding it in DB [11:38] in diablo [12:21] jamespage, ping [12:33] blimey - I pop out for lunch and see what happens [12:33] Daviey: agree on the SRU [12:33] the fix is not reliable [12:34] koolhead17: hrm - not sure - I setup a set of floating IP addresses as detailed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Oneiric/OpenStackTestPlan [12:34] I then used euca-allocate-address and euca-associated-address to fix them to instances [12:34] smoser: pong [12:35] how can i run a tiny little images test ? with ubuntu-server-ec2-testing [12:35] i made a merge proposal last night, but completley untested and i want to attempt to test [12:35] :) [12:36] smoser: you should be able to run it from the command line [12:36] from within the bzr branch [12:36] * jamespage refreshes his memory [12:37] jamespage, i see execute_all_ec2_tests.py, run_ubuntu_ec2_multi_test.py, execute_ubuntu_ec2_test.py, run_ubuntu_ec2_test.py [12:37] all of those looked like good candidates :) [12:37] smoser: execute_ubuntu_ec2_test.py [12:37] is the one [12:38] --help has good advice [12:39] smoser: you will need a branch of lp:~ubuntu-server-ec2-testing-dev/+junk/ec2-automated-tests [12:39] yeah, and thats expected to be ~/tests by dfault ? [12:39] and to setup a ~/.ec2.yaml file containing access credentials [12:39] yes [12:40] ok. i'll run this test and then write a README or doc/ something on how to do it. [12:40] just has to keys - AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID & AWS_SECRET_ACCESS_KEY [12:41] smoser: that would be great - there is the start of one in docs === med_out is now known as medberry [12:45] smoser: the test names are in lp:~ubuntu-server-ec2-testing-dev/+junk/ec2-automated-tests global/tests.yaml [12:45] that file pulls together metadata about the test and the actual detail of the test [12:46] morning [12:47] morning zul [12:47] hey i got 3 servers i want to connect remotely from 1 public ip but they got 3 diffrend local ip's anyone know how i can set that up ? [12:49] kainore: google nat [12:49] network access translater ? [12:49] address sorry mybad [12:50] but thanks [12:50] kainore, how exactly do you want to access them? SSH? [12:51] server01.domain.dk server02.domain.dk server03.domain.dk they just all get to server01 [12:51] Does anyone have a fresh oneiric server install to hand? [12:51] and ssh need ofc to get around as well [12:53] Daviey: i can fire up a kvm if that helps [12:54] zul: nah, no worries. [12:57] Daviey: I have quite a fresh one [12:57] as in later yesterday [12:58] Daviey: are you writing the release note for mail-stack-delivery? [13:00] jamespage: I'm not sure it's worth noting is it? [13:00] it was in Natty, and easy to work around. [13:00] think we should include it? [13:00] meh [13:00] probably not - its a minor niggle [13:01] I just noted it had a release notes task that was all [13:01] If you think we should, sure. [13:01] i think i added that task as a maybe. [13:02] as its such a minor issue lets not add it - if we get lots of post release bugs (which we won't - as you state its like this in natty) then we can consider an SRU [13:02] Daviey: ^^ - I'll pickup the bug to resolve early next cycle [13:03] we also need to fix the racey restart issue [13:03] but that prob requires some upstream co-op [13:03] jamespage: rocking! [13:03] jamespage: is the task assigned to you and targetted? :) [13:04] Daviey: it is now :-) [13:04] awesome! [13:04] I marked the oneiric task won't fix as well [13:04] sounds good. [13:23] Daviey: im going to push out an SRU for nova [13:24] hello. Do you know where we should be pointing users that looks for instruction to deploy Ubuntu Cloud Infra ? [13:25] a [13:25] the nova docs maybe? [13:25] zul: which certainly exlain how to use orchetra and juju, I am sure! [13:26] nijaba: hm, don't think there's complete docs yet :/ [13:26] nijaba: right i think RoAkSoAx was suppose to do orchestra and juju but hasnt finished yet [13:34] i wasted so many hours with role based access control :( [13:36] ooh it's on! [13:37] lynxman: the secret is out :P [13:37] koolhead17: yeah, preparing my blog post :) [13:37] * koolhead17 pokes Daviey [13:38] lynxman: i have many things to write on my blog if am allowed too, rather many failures i encountered with :P [13:38] daiblo/old auth :P [13:48] koolhead17: I'd rather try to fix those for P ;) [13:48] lynxman: its ok to say precise ;) [13:49] zul: I so much preferred the name I proposed :) [13:49] lynxman: i dont want to even know [13:50] zul: you sure? :D [13:50] Precise is going to have more name collisions than Oneiric. [13:50] context collisions, etc. [13:50] lynxman, P? [13:50] medberry: Precise Pangolin of course [13:50] medberry: at least i dont have to go to dictionary.conf to figure out how to pronounce it ;) [13:50] lynxman, that's what you wanted? [13:51] s/wanted/proposed/ [13:51] medberry: nah, mine was a bit more accurate :o) [13:51] New bug: #873358 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.11~dfsg-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873358 [13:51] lynxman, nod. [13:52] jamespage, ping [13:52] so, ec2-automated-tests/global/tests.yaml has 'simple-user-data' [13:54] smoser: yep [13:54] and i can probably change 'instance_type' there. [13:54] i want to run t1.micro, just for testing [13:54] jamespage: thanks. :d [13:54] buti dont know how it knows arch and such [13:55] the !@#$ is_admin table [13:55] oh, i see. i can pass that in. [13:55] never mind. i'm a dolt. [13:56] yes - the framework will then pick the right instance size of the arch from archs.yaml [13:56] in this case 'default' [13:57] * jamespage thinks he might have gone a bit over the top with yaml in this framework [14:00] why ubuntu.com shows laptop with bloody "Dell" on it :P [14:00] koolhead17: you don't like Dell? [14:00] lynxman: nopes. the morons sell with MSFT in india. [14:01] Acer is the only company which gives me linux installed lappy [14:01] :P [14:01] and then i replace limpus to ubuntu :D [14:03] koolhead17 : That might be because Dell and Canonical are partners [14:04] and that Dell will ship machines with Ubuntu pre-installed [14:04] RoAkSoAx: yo [14:05] Martyn: i doubt it happens in reality of at all. The showroom shows only 7 :D [14:05] koolhead17 : #awholenewworld :) It didn't count down to the release of Oneiric :) [14:05] koolhead17 : Could be something else :) [14:07] Martyn: i give damm to an OEM like dell, who licks MSFT ass :) [14:08] heh [14:08] Well, how do you _really_ feel P) [14:08] * patdk-wk is pretty much stuck to hp and supermicro [14:09] anyways am happy if canonical is making something from them in partnership !!! :D [14:13] only 1 day before my hardy server get hacked again... i really need to do-release-upgrade but i fear very much [14:13] why hardy doesn't offer PHP 5.3 [14:13] hi [14:13] anyone here good with SendMail? [14:14] matthew: I'm kind of good with it :) [14:14] ok…. [14:14] I am using Rapidweaver, and I have a "ContactMe" web page…. [14:14] I published my site, and on the contact page, it says mail is being sent, but … guess what… its a no go…. [14:15] I don't know if its a sendmail configuration issue or PHP5 issue… [14:15] matthew: I'd say that's not even remotely related to sendmail, you're several layers above :) [14:15] matthew: start by checking logs, writing some php script to check, etc [14:16] sadf [14:16] do-release-upgrade, y u error fatally :| [14:18] w00, you don't recommand doing a do-release-upgrade from hardy LTS? [14:19] wip: if you're running in production I'd wait for the next LTS [14:19] zul: re bug 873243, the consensus here seemed to be that it doesn't make sense to add xen-hypervisor-4.1-{amd64,i386} since that won't assure that the system is booted into dom0 [14:19] ^ [14:19] Launchpad bug 873243 in nova "nova-compute-xen depends on xen-linux-system which does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873243 [14:19] zul: I don't suppose it matters that much though [14:19] lynxman, i cannot wait my server is running PHP 5.2 (hardy version) and this version is easily hacked [14:19] wip: oops :/ [14:20] wip: maybe getting a backport? [14:20] rbasak: well ideally we would have an xen-meta package that does everything for you and just depend on that [14:20] i have 2 options: upgrade PHP to PHP 5.3 or do-release-upgrade [14:20] lynxman, can you explain how to get a backport? is it possible to upgrade PHP5.3 from hardy? [14:20] Where can i report the release-upgrade err? [14:21] wip: I'd jump from hardy to lucid for starters, you want to be in the latest LTS [14:21] zul: the argument (not mine but it makes sense to me) was that Depends: cannot describe a dependency on what is booted so it's the wrong place to define it and the sysadmin should know to do it himself (with an added helpful message if he tries to start a domU without being dom0) [14:21] lynxman, i fear the worst, never been lucky with do-release-upgrade... [14:22] wip: well, be ready, do a backup beforehand, usual precautions :) [14:22] ok, I was matthew… had issue with username…. [14:22] ok [14:22] rbasak: yeah [14:22] so sendmail… [14:22] I don't see any errors…. really I dont [14:22] zul: so Daviey asked me to request an SRU but you seem to have beaten me to it :) [14:23] rbasak: heh [14:24] this is the only thing that says fail… version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL [14:24] anyone did HARDY to new LTS (lucid)? [14:24] (do-release-upgrade) [14:24] wip: I've done it in the past, it works :) [14:24] wip: Yes, whats the issue? [14:24] with apache and php mysql ftp pgsql dovecot [14:24] wip: and more stuff even [14:24] wip: do a backup and go for it ;) [14:25] like i said i never been lucky when doing a do-release-upgrade [14:25] lynxman, what is the "good" way for making a back-up. right now i have all my sites, database, but not sure if i have all my apache conf, ftp user conf etc... [14:26] wip: I'd rsync the whole structure to another disc, also mysqldump your databases, keep a separate copy of /etc as well and of your user data [14:26] wip: as a paranoid that's the kind of backup I'd do [14:27] lynxman, sadly the other disk is full (the back-up disk) [14:28] what address do I need to have on my hostile? just the local private IP and the name associated with it correct? [14:28] wip: then connect another one? :) [14:29] lynxman, good advice sadly i don't want to paid my hosting cie to install a new disk [14:30] would it be possible to backup an image of my entire system within the same hd (i have plenty of space) [14:30] wip: I'd not recommend that unless you have no other choice [14:31] nm I got it…. [14:31] thanks all [14:31] i have no other choice... sadly - i'm a poor fake sysadmin [14:36] is this line ok to backup before do-release-upgrade? tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / [14:37] wip: do that, then also a separate tar of /etc another of your web content and a mysqldump of your BBDDs (or pg_dump in your case) [14:38] New bug: #873373 in samba (main) "error reported during do-release-upgrade to Oneiric" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873373 [14:41] kirkland: yo [14:41] kirkland: etckeeper is in -proposed [14:41] RoAkSoAx: cool, thanks! [14:41] RoAkSoAx: we probably need to talk to the upstream etckeeper devs and see if they'll take this simple patch upstream [14:41] kirkland: the ping was about that bte [14:41] btw* [14:41] lynxman, should i change release-upgrades - Prompt=lts? [14:42] kirkland: alright [14:42] RoAkSoAx: i predict a bikeshedding discussion about *where* this should be fixed [14:42] RoAkSoAx: they're going to say "fix it in bzr", and bzr is saying "fix this in etckeeper" [14:42] wip: I'd follow this doc, it's quite good (I followed it myself) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrade_from_8.04_LTS_to_10.04_LTS [14:43] lynxman, THX!! [14:43] Anyone did a release-upgrade from natty to oneiric yet? [14:43] kirkland: agreed, but the simplicity of the patch gives us good chances, at it makes sense to set defaults as well [14:44] RoAkSoAx: heh, i wish i just had to convince you :-) [14:45] kirkland: hey o/ [14:45] lynxman, you may need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default boot kernel to the newly installed 10.04 kernel: did you have to? i don't have access to the console... [14:46] wip: I didn't need to, but your mileage may vary [14:46] lynxman: howdy [14:50] kirkland: lol xD [14:50] anyone have any recommandation before doing a do-release-upgrade on hardy: i will backup using: tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt | dump my mysql and pgsql database | bk /etc | bk manywebsites | ask for a kvm/ip (you may need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst - If this step is not performed your server may attempt to boot into the 8.04 LTS kernel and will hang.)? [14:52] New bug: #873390 in dovecot (main) "dovecot restart/stop&start fails due to child processes still running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873390 [14:52] and i am using dovecot on hardy... [14:58] lynxman: i am testing most of the nova commands and all of them are working , what would you suggest :P [14:59] koolhead17: keep testing? :o) [15:00] Please report this as a bug and include the files /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log and /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log in your report. The upgrade has aborted. [15:00] :[ [15:01] lynxman: ok. sir :D [15:05] Where should i report the bug more exactly? [15:28] launchpad timeout, awesome, no upgrade for now then [15:35] <___MAX> hi, i have toshiba disk drive with usb cable i wont to install ubuntu on it with persistence [15:40] SpamapS: ping [15:40] <___MAX> can i install persistence ubuntu on 80 disk drive with usb cable [15:40] kirkland: pong! [15:41] <___MAX> any idea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 [15:45] jamespage, still around ? [15:46] smoser: yep [15:47] i ran a test like : execute_ubuntu_ec2_test.py simple-user-data --tests=./ec2-automated-tests --release=oneiric --storage=ebs --region=us-east-1 --arch=amd64 --debug [15:47] having modified global/archs.yaml to say 't1.micro' for default size [15:48] the instance went to started, then to stopped, then started, but then back to stopped [15:48] it did not go to terminated [15:49] logfile? [15:49] ah - are you running that on natty or oneiric? [15:49] started-stopped-started-terminated would be normal [15:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/707408/ [15:50] running a test of oneiric on my oneiric machine [15:50] that log is cleaned a bit... i tried to strip out boto debug [15:51] and it just now happened again [15:51] smoser: did boto get an upgrade this release? I remember having todo something hacky with terminate/stop before [15:51] infact I know it did [15:52] fwiw I've only ever run the ec2-tests from natty [15:52] so that might be making a difference. [15:53] boto did upgrade 1.9b-1ubuntu5 in natty, and 2.0-0ubuntu1 in oneiric [15:55] smoser: it looks like that part of the api has changed - there is now a terminate method which did not exist before [15:55] PHP complains that it cannot find the imagecreate() function I'm using, phpinfo() says GD is enabled, ubuntu server 10.04 with apache2 and php5 [15:55] right. [15:56] jamespage, i'll try to monkey patch the test suite to account for that [15:56] What do I need to do/install to get the php function imagecreate() ? [15:56] smoser: ack [15:56] jamespage, doc merge proposal at https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/doc-updates/+merge/79304 [15:57] smoser: thanks for that - it really needed doing [15:57] smoser: the stop command for ebs instances in PHASE_3 could also be updated as well [15:57] I'm happy to move the minimum release requirement forwards BTW [15:58] its not hassle [16:05] jamespage, so we think that boto.ec2.instance.stop() on natty would terminate ? [16:05] and on oneiric it 'stop' [16:05] right? [16:14] Can I have upstart spawn/respawn multiple processes from a single .conf? [16:17] New bug: #873423 in net-snmp (main) "please enable multiarch for net-snmp" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873423 [16:23] jamespage, ok. i think we're good now. [16:23] i have 3 things i'd like merged [16:23] https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/+junk/ec2-automated-test/ [16:23] err.. lets number them. [16:23] 1.) https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/+junk/ec2-automated-test/ . I can't seem to submit a merge proposal for that at all, so you'll just have to review, and pull it in. [16:24] 2.) doc fixes : https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/doc-updates/+merge/79304 [16:24] 3.) other fixes : https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/fixes/+merge/79174 [16:27] I see where I can run a separate pre-start stanza to run a process, but can I exec a command in that stanza and have upstart manage it? Will Upstart respawn the commands executed in the pre-start stanza if they terminate abnormally? === Amgine is now known as Guest74455 [16:41] donspaulding, http://paste.ubuntu.com/707441/ [16:42] i put that in /etc/init, and then ran 'sudo start testme'. that wrote to /tmp/testme.log. I got the pid that was in /tmp/testme.log and killed it (sudo kill). [16:43] and after the kill, post-stop, pre-start, start, and post-start all get called [16:43] smoser: my question regards exec'ing a daemon within the pre-start. [16:44] oh.. i see. i thoguht you were just asking if it would run pre-start on 'respawn' [16:45] i would doubt that it would handle the respawn of jobs started in a pre-start. [16:45] smoser: yeah, I can see where my question could look like that. Unfortunately, I'm trying to screw with a hammer, I think. [16:45] smoser: I think I'm just going to "do it the Upstart way" and put the two daemons in different .confs [16:57] why all sudden channel went in silence :P [16:59] Shhhh. [16:59] * donspaulding grabs the popcorn [17:00] * koolhead17 just had nice dinner!! [17:01] we're watching a movie [17:01] http://i.imgur.com/tCp90.gif [17:01] how can I get a script to run at startup? Its daemonized... I have /etc/rc.d/init.d/mpdscribble ready to go === guampa_ is now known as guampa [17:02] New bug: #871674 in apache2 (main) "Server mod_proxy_ajp Denial of Service Vulnerability " [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871674 [17:02] symlink into the runlevel you want it, like old-style initscripts [17:02] or write an upstart script for it [17:03] josePhoenix, I remember there was a program i could call if I had an initscript, something like: program myscript defaults [17:03] i forget what its called though [17:03] donspaulding: scary movie!! :P [17:03] storrgie: update-rc.d [17:03] storrgie: update-rc.d? I don't remember if ubuntu installs it by default these days [17:03] I'm actually in fedora right now, I just usually ask questions in here [17:04] i believe you're right it is update-rc.d [17:07] New bug: #871673 in apr (main) "APR "apr_fnmatch()" Denial of Service Vulnerability " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/871673 [17:16] storrgie: you may get different answers here ;] [17:19] josePhoenix, right. I did find it out though. I needed to use systemctl [17:19] I'm not sure if thats in ubuntu, I think ubuntu uses upstart right? [17:21] storrgie: it's kind of a confusing landscape in ubuntu :\ [17:22] upstart scripts are installed with services, but there's no "right" way to disable services without removing them altogether [17:22] and to further complicate things, traditional rc#.d/ folders are still supported [17:25] josePhoenix, this is why I shifted over to fedora... I feel really detached from whats going on in ubuntu. Its frustrating [17:29] Aside from that weirdness I've been very happy with Ubuntu [17:30] even when the packagers make nonstandard decisions, they usually aren't bad ones [17:31] storrgie: change is good!! :D [17:33] koolhead17: I guess that depends what sort of change, the slow migrate to upstart while keeping the sysv scripts isn't too easy to handle for many sysadmins [17:34] IMHO the jump to upstart was a wee bit hurried [17:34] RoyK: things will get much better in LTS :) [17:34] koolhead17, change is great... arbitrary change is rough though [17:34] koolhead17: I'm talking about LTS, lucid [17:35] RoyK: i meant coming one!! :) [17:35] things should be _stable_ in an LTS [17:35] in Hardy it was all fine [17:35] in Lucid, things got a bit complicated [17:35] ya, too earily upstart migration :( [17:35] indeed [17:36] * RoyK just has to try 11.10 on his home server to get Xen - talking about cutting edge..... [17:36] royk, I'm bad [17:37] I haven't used anything other than maverick and lucid currently [17:37] i'm gonna put 11.10 on my server in a little bit. [17:37] only lucid on servers [17:37] i'l go to LTS w/ 12.04, and stay there a while [17:37]