[07:25] <dpm> good morning all
[07:25] <Numbskull> good morning, dpm
[07:30] <artnay> hi all
[07:30] <artnay> trijntje: I can't see ubuntu desktop guide translated in your language: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubuntu-docs/+pots/ubuntu-help/nl/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=ubuntu+desktop+guide
[07:31] <artnay> in Finnish it's been translated for months, yet the translation doesn't show up in yelp: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubuntu-docs/+pots/ubuntu-help/fi/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=ubuntu+desktop+guide
[07:31] <dpm> hi Numbskull
[08:43] <TLE> dpm: good morning
[08:45] <dpm> morning TLE
[08:45] <dpm> happy release day everyone!
[08:46] <sagaci> 21% on en_AU to go :)
[08:48] <TLE> you too
[08:48] <TLE> I'm working on the lang pack release schedule for oneiric
[08:48] <TLE> (last minute)
[08:49] <TLE> dpm: I'll send out a suggestion on the email list as soon as it is done
[08:49] <dpm> TLE, ah, awesome :)
[09:51] <artnay> dpm: are you aware if there's any blueprint for docs and translation team coordination? that would probably help a lot with LTS docs. there's DocumentationStringFreeze and NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline but at least docfreeze hasn't been very solid.
[09:53] <artnay> I bet some translators belong to docs team, too. I don't know much about schedule, workflow etc. when it comes to doc team
[11:20] <TLE> hey guys, anyone know of the top of their heads how (in moinmoin) to insert a horizontal line in a table without borders?
[11:25] <TLE> arrrrgh, it was a bad idea to start editing the wiki on release day
[11:25] <TLE> the servers ar ebeing hammerede
[11:25] <iceroot> same problem here :(
[11:26] <iceroot> need some info from the wiki but its down
[11:27] <kelemengabor> keep pressing F5, for the third time it worked for me :)
[11:28] <iceroot> ah great :) know its working here also :) time to kill some bugs
[11:28] <TLE> kelemengabor: good old trick
[11:40] <TLE> dpm_: you doing a sustainable translation session on UDS?
[11:41] <dpm_> TLE, I might do, I still haven't started preparing all the blueprints (just some of the objectives). Ask me again tomorrow after the release :)
[11:43] <TLE> will do, I would like to have a discussion about the stream lining the language pack releases a bit, and so I need to figure out whether that should be part of another session or a stand alone, but let's talk about that tomorrow
[11:54] <dpm> ok, cool, thanks TLE
[12:36] <kelemengabor> TLE: I'm looking at the proposed langpack update schedule, and I have a question
[12:36] <TLE> kelemengabor: yes
[12:36] <kelemengabor> which of these are planned to be full language pack updates?
[12:37] <kelemengabor> so that they can contain help updates
[12:37] <TLE> none so far, I have not been keeping myself up to date with that discussion
[12:38] <TLE> But I guess if we have a procedure for that, we decide which of them are most appropriate for that and tag them for it
[12:39] <kelemengabor> I don't know if we have a procedure... one thing is certain, we should coordinate such updates with the docs team, so that they can generate a new ubuntu-docs package for us, with exported translations
[12:39] <kelemengabor> mdke: any comment on this? :)
[12:40] <kelemengabor> how about using the second update as such?
[12:40] <kelemengabor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/OneiricLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
[12:41] <kelemengabor> that is, six weeks from now
[12:42] <TLE> yeah the second or the third might be good for that, and _maybe_ one of the last ones
[13:30] <kelemengabor> dpm: now that Oneiric is out... we won't have Gnome 3.2.1 packages as updates, right?
[13:30] <dpm> kelemengabor, not sure, we usually have them, though
[13:30] <dpm> that is, .1 updates
[13:32] <kelemengabor> would be great :)
[15:00] <TLE> kelemengabor: hey, which of the documentation guys do we need to talk to about the full update stuff? mdke ?
[15:00] <TLE> or is there someone else that I can forward the email to
[15:00] <kelemengabor> TLE: AFAIK yes, he is their dpm :)
[15:00] <dpm> hehe :)
[15:04] <TLE> ok, that would be the guy then
[15:04] <TLE> ahh yes, Matthew East, that sounds about right
[15:27] <jkbys> dpm: ping
[15:27] <dpm> hi jkbys
[15:27] <jkbys> hi
[15:27] <jkbys> My name is Jun Kobayashi, from Ubuntu Japan LoCo.
[15:28] <jkbys> Could you take a look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-build/+bug/873401 ?
[15:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 873401 in live-build (Ubuntu) "Check disc for defects failed with a iso images built using ubuntu-defaults-image (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:37] <dpm> let me read the bug
[15:40] <dpm> jkbys, I've set the bug to be against the right package. pitti, the maintainer of ubuntu-defaults-builder should soon come back to you about this. If not, you can always find him in the #ubuntu-devel IRC channel
[15:42] <jkbys> Thank you.
[20:15] <trijntje> artnay: You are right that the term 'Ubuntu desktop guide' is not translated in dutch. I was referring to the fact that translations do show up. I probably misunderstood your bug report