[12:01] <maxolasersquad> Happy Ubuntu Release Day!
[12:02] <maxolasersquad> 6 hours to release.
[12:31] <bogmc> yes!
[13:19] <dantalizing> morning
[13:27] <mhall119> morning
[13:27] <mhall119> happy release day everyone, Oneiric is officially out!
[13:31] <maxolasersquad> Then thefinalcountdown is full of dirty lies.
[13:37] <mhall119> and dirty 80s one-hit-wonders
[13:38] <dantalizing> mmm... dirty 80s
[13:46] <DammitJim> happy release date!!!!
[14:08] <DammitJim> why is oneric ocelot not LTS?
[14:08] <DammitJim> oneiric
[14:08] <mhall119> DammitJim: because LTS's come very 2 years
[14:08] <mhall119> 12.04 will be an LTS
[14:09] <DammitJim> are a lot of people then waiting for 12.04?
[14:09] <DammitJim> I guess you can always upgrade, right?
[14:09] <mhall119> yeah, you can upgrade to whatever you want
[14:09] <mhall119> probably businesses will wait for 12.04, and most people using it on a server
[14:10] <zoopster> oh crap...now I'm 2 releases behind on my server, ugh
[14:10] <mhall119> zoopster: yeah, mine is 10.10 too
[14:10] <DammitJim> if it's running fine, don't upgrade ;)
[14:11] <zoopster> heh...but then I don't get to play with the new cool stuff
[14:11] <zoopster> actually I'm starting to move my websites to S3
[14:12] <zoopster> just don't like not being about to assign root domain names to them :(
[14:12] <DammitJim> I hear ya
[14:12] <DammitJim> VM for the new cool stuff
[14:13] <zoopster> actually I "should" do the opposite...keep the host upgraded and keep my prod stuff on a vm
[14:13] <DammitJim> lol... it should all be a vm cluster :0
[14:21] <dantalizing> wonder if there is a juju charm for "upgrade"
[14:24] <mhall119> dantalizing: I think that's more of a puppet/landscape thing
[14:39] <dantalizing> its still service management
[14:52] <mhall119> juju is more deployment management I think
[15:19] <dantalizing> i'm not sure what the stated design goals are, but there is more in there than just puppet/chef/whatever for the cloud.  i dont see specific upgrade charms, but i dont see why it couldnt be done .. tricky but doable
[15:55] <zoopster> dantalizing: you and I both know that you don't upgrade cloud/vm based images
[15:55] <zoopster> rip and replace!
[15:55] <zoopster> and use juju to redeploy
[16:10] <akgraner> zoopster, everytime I see/hear juju I think of sammy hagar :-)
[16:11] <zoopster> heh...yea, but that's bad juju!
[16:11] <akgraner> and charms well I think lucky charms cereal :-/
[16:12] <akgraner> this out to be fun interviewing developers at UDS about this - I think I can get through it without giggling just a little
[16:12] <akgraner> s/out/ought
[16:52] <mhall119> akgraner: it makes me think of juju bees
[16:52] <mhall119> jujubes, however it's spelled
[16:53] <mhall119> but now that you mention it, I feel compelled to write a webapp and call it lucky, just so I can make a charm for it
[16:54] <akgraner> hehe :-)
[16:57] <akgraner> too funny
[17:43] <dantalizing> is it bad that 2 minutes ago was the first time that i saw the online tour?  how long has that been there?
[17:52] <mhall119> dantalizing: hours
[17:57] <dantalizing> me likey
[17:58] <mhall119> it is very nice, isn't it?
[17:58] <mhall119> I hear sending email works too
[17:59]  * mhall119 hasn't tried that yet
[18:16] <dantalizing> I <3 me some rackspace
[18:27] <itnet7> mhall119: we'll have to get jujubees to give away during the horro show ;-)
[18:30] <mhall119> that's be fun
[18:30] <itnet7> s/horro/horror/
[18:30] <itnet7> People around here at work are genuinely excited about the new release
[18:30] <itnet7> That Rocks!
[18:32] <itnet7> I'm about to my first clean install, on my other other work laptop
[18:33] <itnet7> They issued us laptops when they took over our departments with what the deamed as the latest greatest OS
[18:33] <itnet7> I haven't even powered it on fully
[18:33] <itnet7> from 2 years ago, 3 in february ;-P
[18:34] <dantalizing> really?  they installed ubuntu on them and you didnt use it?
[18:34] <dantalizing> ;)
[18:34] <raubvogel> itnet7: I worked at a place where the new laptop would go to the boss, then to his kids, and then to IT
[18:35] <itnet7> raubvogel: that tends to happen here on the other side. I can't really get my hands on any new hardware to "test" due to them insourcing us
[18:35] <itnet7> dantalizing: I wish ;-)
[18:36] <itnet7> I just can't believe they said vi$ta and best os in the same sentence......
[18:36] <raubvogel> itnet7: Fun 
[18:36] <itnet7> I should have know then what I was in store for!
[18:36] <raubvogel> Now they ought to be saying Windows8
[18:37] <itnet7> There are already buzzwords about Mango Development
[18:37] <itnet7> *pffftt*
[18:37] <raubvogel> Now, they should only have *one* machine with the Microsoft SDK
[18:38] <dantalizing> every time i hear 'mango' i think of the line 'juicy juicy mangos' from bend it like beckham
[18:38] <raubvogel> then let people rdp into it
[18:38] <raubvogel> to the very same screen
[18:38] <raubvogel> and work on different projects 
[18:38] <raubvogel> How's that for bad?
[18:41] <itnet7> I wanted to try that chrome rdp client
[18:41] <itnet7> but haven't had a chance... @ dantalizing, I know, right?
[18:42] <itnet7> It makes me think of the SNL skit too with John Lequiziamo (sp?)
[19:03] <itnet7> Well, I guess it's not really rdp, it's more like teamview
[19:07] <maxolasersquad> An HTML5 RDP client would be badass, but you'd need a websockets server somewhere that can access both the RDP server.
[19:09] <maxolasersquad> Is anyone else annoyed about the choppy scrolling in the new Gwibber?
[19:10] <itnet7> That's one app I haven't been using in quite sometime, I will check it tonight
[21:47] <govatent> happy release day everyone
[21:48] <akgraner> mhall119, what's the irc channel for the ubuntu website folks
[21:48] <akgraner> is it ubuntu-website or something else - I can't remember atm
[22:31] <mhall119> akgraner: #ubuntu-website
[22:38] <akgraner> thanks!
[23:03] <govatent> i like all the changes made in unity. i only wish i had a slightly nicer gpu. 
[23:19] <mhall119> govatent: Unity 2d works really well without 3d acceleration
[23:20] <govatent> how can i switch to it?
[23:20] <mhall119> govatent: at the login screen, click the gear icon by your name
[23:20] <govatent> cause i do have 3d acceleration. it just is sluggish cause of my laptop's amazingly underpowered card. 
[23:21] <govatent> ok brb. going to switch to 2d 
[23:22] <govatent> wow. 
[23:22] <govatent> i am not going to lie. 2d feels really really smooth/fast on my laptop. 
[23:22] <govatent> thanks mhall119 . that was a great tip. 
[23:22] <mhall119> np
[23:23] <mhall119> they did a really good job with it, and made it so close to the 3d version
[23:23] <govatent> what extra fancies does the 3d have. 
[23:24] <mhall119> I'm not really sure
[23:24] <govatent> not that i plan on going back to 3d on my laptop. it really made a huge difference that one change. i am glad the community thought of the older computers. 
[23:24] <mhall119> 3d is build on Compiz
[23:24] <mhall119> 2d is built in QT
[23:24] <mhall119> that's the only difference i know
[23:26] <govatent> this new release made me love ubuntu again. every release i fall in love again and remember why i use ubuntu. 
[23:27] <govatent> btw funny story, the other day while at school i get a call from my mom saying the internet went out. i could not remote into my system at all so i was not able to look into it till i got home later that night. when i did get home, i found out comcast for some reason decided their backend would lose my modems mac reg in their system. they have no trace of my modem ever being in the system. 
[23:29] <mhall119> nice
[23:30] <govatent> i should call and get a day worth of credit 
[23:30] <govatent> cause my mom could not use our vonage service cause of their mistake. not that i am angry about it or anything.