[02:37] <canthus13> paultag: dmr?
[02:37] <paultag> canthus13: the R in K&R
[02:37] <paultag> Dennis Ritchie
[02:38] <paultag> he spake at OLF a few years back
[02:38] <paultag> I think
[02:58] <canthus13> Oh. The guy that wrote C?
[02:58] <Unit193> http://www.osnews.com/story/25232/Dennis_Ritchie_Creator_of_UNIX_and_C_Dead_at_70
[03:10] <itsafork> believe it or not, but this is not as obvious to everyone as you might think...
[03:10] <itsafork> word of advice: do not for WHATEVER reason start adding random standard-expression-type strings to the end of the reference name of your kernel. -OR- changing the name of your kernel by adding random standard-expression-type strings to the end of it. believe it or not, IT WILL PREVENT EVERYTHING IN THAT SYSTEM FROM WORKING AFTER REBOOT!!!!!!!
[03:17] <Unit193> itsafork: I take it you did an oopsie? :P
[03:17] <SkrappJaw> hey
[03:17] <SkrappJaw> long time no see. whats up?
[03:18] <Unit193> Howdy
[03:18] <Unit193> Oneiric is about to go up in flames ;)
[03:20] <SkrappJaw> O.o?
[03:20] <Unit193> About to be released (And not sure it's fully cooked)
[03:32] <itsafork> Unit193: no some dumbass in our datacenter did on his dedicated server, i'm trying to untangle the Flipping mess of a CentOS box this guy has...
[03:33] <itsafork> Unit193: & of course any "normal" possible solution is either not working or fails while trying to implement it.
[03:35] <Unit193> Heh, yepo, that's how it normally works :P
[03:52] <itsafork> you're telling me!
[03:53] <itsafork> so i haven't looked yet, does anybody know what time the official release is happening??
[03:55] <Unit193> 13th
[04:46] <itsafork> right, but it's the 13th now, & it's not available on the website yet...
[04:47] <Unit193> Wasn't when I said it ;)  It will be out at some point today, not sure when
[04:47] <itsafork> does anybody have any idea when today 11.10 will be available for download???? if not i'll just sit here clicking refresh
[04:48] <itsafork> ok
[10:50] <jrgifford> Unit193: Oneiric in flames? Say it isn't so!
[10:52] <Unit193> How did the countdown go?
[10:54] <jrgifford> stillllllllll going.
[10:54] <jrgifford> 07 hours, 05 minutes and counting
[10:55] <jrgifford> this thing has seriously led us on one while goose chase after another.
[10:56] <Unit193> Eh, I'll findout tomorrow
[10:57] <jrgifford> haha.
[10:57] <jrgifford> i've spent too much time on this already, spending another 7 hours won't hurt anything. :P
[10:58] <Unit193> I don't care enough to go crazy, but I would like to know (Tomorrow being the 13th)
[10:58] <jrgifford> Today is the 13th...
[10:59] <Unit193> Tomorrow for me ;)
[10:59] <jrgifford> Oh. stupid timezones.
[11:00] <Unit193> Wait for it...
[11:04] <Unit193> We are both in Ohio
[11:04] <jrgifford> lol.
[11:04] <jrgifford> stupid me.
[11:33] <jrgifford> annnddddddd it's out! - http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[14:20] <thafreak> so...anyone here run 64bit for their main OS?
[14:20] <paultag> hell naw
[14:21] <thafreak> I tried it for a while, but flash and java never worked right
[14:21] <thafreak> should I try it again, or stick with 32bit+pae?
[14:22] <paultag> I love 32-pae
[14:23] <thafreak> kk, I'll prob stick with that then
[14:23] <thafreak> think I'm going to finally upgrade my work computer...
[14:23] <paultag> fluxbox is calling
[14:24] <paultag> thafreak: http://i.imgur.com/q6rU5.png
[14:24] <paultag> so seductive
[14:24] <thafreak> haha...I usually run flux inside vnc for remote access
[14:25] <thafreak> you running flux ontop of gnome?
[14:25] <paultag> no
[14:25] <paultag> that'd be silly
[14:25] <paultag> I'm running GNOME on top of Flux
[14:25] <paultag> just ditched metacity / compiz
[14:25] <thafreak> seemed like gnome desktop switcher
[14:26] <thafreak> gotcha
[14:26] <paultag> because it is :)
[14:26] <paultag> but that's all being drawn by fluxbox
[14:26] <paultag> not metacity / compiz
[14:26] <thafreak> right...
[14:26] <paultag> fluxbox is at the bottom, so to speak
[14:26] <thafreak> did that back in the day once...
[14:26] <thafreak> when metacity was brand new...
[14:26] <paultag> thafreak: it's actually rather comfortable
[14:26] <thafreak> but I think it was blackbox
[14:27] <thafreak> which gnome? 2 or 3?
[14:27] <paultag> 2
[14:27] <paultag> I might try 3 at some point
[14:27] <thafreak> hows gtk3 looking ontop of fluxbox?
[14:27] <paultag> but I need to get compositing to work
[14:27] <paultag> thafreak: it works, but only just
[14:27] <paultag> I need to spend some time getting gnome3 to play nice
[14:27] <paultag> gtk3 is ok
[14:32] <thafreak> is gtk3 very different than gtk2? Like does it require a window manager with compositing to work?
[14:37] <paultag> thafreak: nah, but gnome3 does
[14:37] <paultag> gtk3 works fine
[14:43] <thafreak> i'm mostly interested in gtk3...don't they incorporate more html type stuff in it?
[14:43] <paultag> I have no idea
[14:47] <thafreak> well, I swear I was reading about something new, I thought it was gtk3, and it had features that were blowing my mind
[15:44] <paultag> thafreak: that might be
[15:44] <paultag> thafreak: I know GNOME3 has javascript and html5 support
[15:44] <paultag> but I don't know that it's GTK
[15:44] <paultag> in fact, I'd be stunned if it were