Juzzy | yo sed works fine | 02:08 |
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Juzzy | use single quotes | 02:08 |
Juzzy | # echo hi/there/pimp/ | sed 's/\//?/g' | 02:09 |
Juzzy | hi?there?pimp? | 02:09 |
Juzzy | and you dont escape the substitutions | 02:10 |
Juzzy | a little cleaner: | 02:10 |
Juzzy | # echo hi/there/pimp/ | sed 's#/#?#g' | 02:10 |
Juzzy | hi?there?pimp? | 02:10 |
binarymutant | thanks | 02:19 |
binarymutant | http://www.osnews.com/story/25232/Dennis_Ritchie_Creator_of_UNIX_and_C_Dead_at_70 | 02:28 |
chris4585 | well I believe I screwed my computer once again lol | 02:57 |
wrst | chris4585: what happened? | 02:59 |
cyberanger | chris4585: was it intentional | 03:01 |
chris4585 | cyberanger, no lol | 03:03 |
chris4585 | well it just suddenly started to shut off by itself again after I changed the PSUs | 03:03 |
chris4585 | now thats my secondary issue.. | 03:03 |
chris4585 | a few hours ago my onboard video (vga) was working fine | 03:04 |
chris4585 | now.. I don't have any signal from it | 03:04 |
chris4585 | I have a pci-e card and could use it if I could see the bios.. which I can't :/ | 03:04 |
chris4585 | so I'm in a pickle | 03:04 |
cyberanger | ouch, need the bios to enable it don't you? | 03:05 |
cyberanger | it's not one that autodetects some events like a new graphics card, or blown chip | 03:06 |
chris4585 | yeah and I can't see it | 03:07 |
chris4585 | I can guess the layout as best I can, but it appears something is different.. | 03:07 |
chris4585 | no I had to manually switch to my pci-e card when I put it in before | 03:07 |
chris4585 | I believe I'm SOL | 03:08 |
wrst | :( | 03:11 |
cyberanger | chris4585: just on a mobo, any way you could have shorted it (even just the graphics chip on it or some other peice) as you dealt with the PSU | 03:11 |
chris4585 | it could have possibly shorted something after all the times its randomly shutoff | 03:12 |
cyberanger | as part of a power issue on the PSU, plus you swapping them, sounds like a good canidate | 03:13 |
cyberanger | only a mobo though, could be worse | 03:13 |
chris4585 | I believe I'm gonna switch the power source once more... | 03:13 |
chris4585 | I'm pro at this now lol | 03:14 |
chris4585 | the good news is it appears (not tested) to not shutting off now.. | 03:14 |
* cyberanger grabs something handy in case we see an eletrical fire in say 20 seconds | 03:16 | |
* cyberanger throws the bucket of water on chris4585 | 03:16 | |
chris4585 | lol I don't think I will.. | 03:17 |
cyberanger | wait a minute, this was for a brush fire, sorry chris4585 | 03:18 |
* cyberanger hands chris4585 a towel | 03:18 | |
wrst | chris4585: i have one right now I'm working on i thought it was a psu i should have checked it but turned out to be a MB | 03:18 |
cyberanger | wrst: and one can get one problem to cause another | 03:20 |
wrst | yes it can, I suspect that could ahve been the issue here haven't gotten the MB yet | 03:21 |
cyberanger | well, careful if the PSU is toast, you don't fry two boards | 03:24 |
wrst | i have a new psu | 03:24 |
wrst | but it would fire up run for just a little then shut off | 03:24 |
cyberanger | ouch | 03:25 |
wrst | yeah so that's not good for things :) | 03:25 |
chris4585 | wrst, yeah the motherboard right now I think is basically fried :/ | 03:25 |
wrst | oh and cyberanger my main server will be running debian if i have to do anything major to it again | 03:26 |
chris4585 | wrst, yes thats what would be happening to me... | 03:26 |
chris4585 | the power supplies I think are fine | 03:26 |
wrst | yeah i think so | 03:27 |
chris4585 | so I'm pretty sure the onboard vga connector? is fried or shorted, for a few weeks when I turned on my computer I would see this weird faint lines on my screen and now this :/ | 03:28 |
chris4585 | you guys think I should look into buying another mobo and replacing the current one? | 03:28 |
wrst | i'm thinking so but i would yield to cyberanger as I'm not having any luck either :) | 03:29 |
chris4585 | well tomorrow I'm gonna pay a visit to someone who has a lot of experience with fixing computers | 03:29 |
binarymutant | chris4585: you try a video card? | 03:30 |
cyberanger | binarymutant: he can't get at the bios to enable it | 03:30 |
binarymutant | why not? | 03:30 |
cyberanger | vga seems fried | 03:31 |
cyberanger | or possibly onboard | 03:31 |
chris4585 | correct | 03:31 |
binarymutant | pnp | 03:31 |
cyberanger | jist is, his problem is interferring with getting to the bios to enable the pci-e card | 03:31 |
chris4585 | binarymutant, I have 2 I could try but I can't get into the bios and see the configuration | 03:31 |
binarymutant | should be plug n play | 03:32 |
chris4585 | I had to manually switch to pci-e before | 03:32 |
cyberanger | eithr his board is fried entirely, or plug and play isn't working as it should | 03:32 |
cyberanger | or the board is older than pnp (as mine is for pci-e) | 03:32 |
binarymutant | pnp is like mid 90's | 03:32 |
binarymutant | that's def. a pickle | 03:32 |
chris4585 | when i turn my computer on both fans (ontop of the cpu and on the back) turn on, no beeps and no video signal | 03:33 |
chris4585 | same thing with two psu's | 03:33 |
binarymutant | it's your vga for sure | 03:33 |
chris4585 | anyway I can get this repaired without buying another mobo? | 03:34 |
binarymutant | or monitor, try switching monitors. If that doesn't work than it's the video card | 03:34 |
chris4585 | no, I've tried two monitors, my main one works fine | 03:34 |
binarymutant | chris4585: no one will do onboard video replacement except the manufact. | 03:34 |
cyberanger | chris4585: and quite honestly, not worth it in most cases | 03:35 |
chris4585 | ah ok | 03:35 |
cyberanger | binarymutant: mine is early pci-e | 03:35 |
chris4585 | so I am SOL, buy another mobo basically? | 03:35 |
cyberanger | 2004, won't do it | 03:35 |
binarymutant | putting in the card doesn't work? | 03:35 |
chris4585 | nope | 03:35 |
chris4585 | anyway I could flash my bios or update it without visually seeing the screen? lol | 03:36 |
binarymutant | what motherboard is this? OEM should have the bios set to card, then onboard | 03:36 |
chris4585 | that would be lovely | 03:36 |
chris4585 | this is the computer binarymutant http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883107363 | 03:36 |
chris4585 | got it in 2007 I think | 03:37 |
binarymutant | that's too good of a pc to trash | 03:37 |
chris4585 | yeah | 03:37 |
chris4585 | lets just say I'm determined to get this thing fixed | 03:38 |
binarymutant | flash it: http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/download/bios/Awdflash.exe | 03:38 |
binarymutant | good luck, don't brick it :D | 03:38 |
chris4585 | I even tried navigating the bios without visually seeing it and changing settings but didn't do anything | 03:38 |
chris4585 | D: | 03:39 |
chris4585 | I've never flashed anything, what would that do exactly? | 03:39 |
binarymutant | wait idk if you can without seeing it... | 03:40 |
binarymutant | that's a pickle | 03:40 |
chris4585 | yep | 03:40 |
binarymutant | errm | 03:42 |
binarymutant | chris4585: sorry :( | 03:42 |
binarymutant | chris4585: reset jumper on the mobo! | 03:43 |
binarymutant | blam fixed | 03:43 |
chris4585 | uh where would that be exactly? | 03:44 |
binarymutant | there's either a jumper or just take the cmos battery out | 03:45 |
chris4585 | oh well I guess I could try the cmos | 03:45 |
binarymutant | just flip the battery out | 03:46 |
binarymutant | chris4585: http://www.wikihow.com/Reset-Your-BIOS | 03:46 |
chris4585 | really 5 to 10mins? | 03:48 |
binarymutant | it has to discharge | 03:48 |
binarymutant | or something idk | 03:48 |
binarymutant | the mobo's I've seen had a jumper | 03:49 |
binarymutant | 5-10minutes vs new motherboard :D | 03:49 |
chris4585 | I'll try this, but I must ask, what type of mobo do I have and would any kind of the type I need work? | 03:51 |
chris4585 | I should know this.. | 03:51 |
chris4585 | I think its ATX? | 03:52 |
binarymutant | atx is big/old | 03:53 |
chris4585 | micro atx? | 03:54 |
binarymutant | more than likely | 03:54 |
chris4585 | that looks right.. | 03:54 |
binarymutant | idk how HP does their boxes, but you should be able to put any atx/micro in there | 03:55 |
chris4585 | so would any micro atx mobo work | 03:55 |
chris4585 | ah alright | 03:55 |
binarymutant | but if it has a lot of plastic inside then maybe not :/ | 03:55 |
chris4585 | I basically took the whole computer tonight and took off the casing and plastic | 03:55 |
chris4585 | its stripped down to, psu, mobo/cpu, fans, harddrive, card reader, so I should be good | 03:56 |
binarymutant | plastic=not a white box | 03:56 |
chris4585 | lol I just have the metal case right now | 03:57 |
binarymutant | :D | 03:57 |
chris4585 | binarymutant, thanks for your help | 03:57 |
binarymutant | naked | 03:57 |
chris4585 | yep | 03:57 |
binarymutant | hope that works | 03:57 |
chris4585 | welp, this is my naked beauty http://i.imgur.com/G3LfB.jpg | 04:03 |
chris4585 | a bit blurry had to take the flash off, was too shiny lol | 04:03 |
binarymutant | ooo aahh | 04:05 |
binarymutant | i see you took the cmos battery out :D | 04:06 |
chris4585 | lol yeah | 04:07 |
chris4585 | I don't see how you see that well its soo blurry | 04:07 |
binarymutant | superpowers | 04:09 |
chris4585 | lol | 04:09 |
binarymutant | a lot of 8bit/16bit video games :D | 04:09 |
chris4585 | haha, I miss that era | 04:10 |
chris4585 | well the video games anyway | 04:10 |
binarymutant | big pixel blurs | 04:11 |
chris4585 | binarymutant, I know I have an amd cpu, but do you know if its AM2 type? | 04:37 |
chris4585 | thats what I'm thinking | 04:37 |
binarymutant | am2? | 04:37 |
binarymutant | idk what that is, sorry | 04:37 |
chris4585 | ah alright, cpus are the department I know just about nothing | 04:38 |
binarymutant | ya me too | 04:38 |
binarymutant | the basics, the rest is on google :D | 04:38 |
Unit193 | johnhaitas: You did come back! We thought you were just going to rage quit! | 05:16 |
Unit193 | ;) | 05:16 |
johnhaitas | haha | 05:16 |
johnhaitas | i had to do some hardening on the server | 05:16 |
johnhaitas | forgot to log back in | 05:16 |
johnhaitas | i'm back | 05:17 |
cyberanger | johnhaitas: don't harden you network too hard, gonna make irc a real pain to use ;-) | 05:23 |
johnhaitas | cyberanger: it was a basic thing that needed to be done | 05:35 |
cyberanger | why stop with the basics ;-) | 05:53 |
wrst | hello crazyguy510 | 13:20 |
crazyguy510 | Hello. | 13:29 |
* wrst_amazon tries out a cloud isntance | 13:36 | |
* cyberanger wonders about wrst | 15:10 | |
xpistos | Morning | 15:23 |
wrst | cyberanger: why is that? | 15:27 |
wrst | morning xpistos | 15:27 |
xpistos | Capo | 15:32 |
wrst | how are you doing xpistos? | 15:36 |
xpistos | wrst: aside from getting annoyed with a printer. not bad | 15:36 |
xpistos | you ? | 15:36 |
wrst | oh i'm doing well not doing much of anythign :) and I hate printers xpistos | 15:38 |
xpistos | lol | 15:38 |
xpistos | fiddling with Arch too | 15:38 |
wrst | i'm using 11.10 right now its very nice | 15:40 |
wrst | or very nice compared to 11.04 :) | 15:41 |
wrst | but don't think its replacing arch | 15:41 |
cyberanger | wrst: why is what | 16:51 |
johnhaitas | happy oneiric day everyone | 17:44 |
wrst | cyberanger: with arch i dont' have to risk trashing my entire system every 6 months | 17:56 |
wrst | johnhaitas: happy indeed the finished product is actually pretty nice | 17:56 |
johnhaitas | wrst: somehow they always bring it together nicely | 18:02 |
johnhaitas | wrst: remember karmic ... when they dropped the new theme on us | 18:03 |
johnhaitas | before the new new theme in lucid | 18:03 |
wrst | well i would argue that nothing in 11.04 was brought together nicely ;) but i think unity will be good by LTS and that's the goal I'm sure | 18:03 |
wrst | yeah johnhaitas I think i was one of the few that liked karmic :) | 18:03 |
johnhaitas | wrst: i usually like the releases | 18:04 |
johnhaitas | natty was not my favorite | 18:04 |
johnhaitas | parts looked good ... but the lack of proper 2d unity was a problem for VMs | 18:05 |
wrst | i wont be so PC unity in 11.04 sucked | 18:06 |
cyberanger | johnhaitas: remember karmic where they dropped grub2 on us and dropped hal | 18:19 |
cyberanger | wrst: I'd say lucid was nice, since it followed karmic | 18:19 |
cyberanger | the headache of headaches | 18:19 |
cyberanger | wrst: same with debian testing | 18:20 |
johnhaitas | hey guys ... networking question | 18:53 |
johnhaitas | i am running wired networking cable in my new house before drywall goes up | 18:53 |
johnhaitas | CAT5e or CAT6 | 18:56 |
johnhaitas | i am inclined to go CAT6 | 18:56 |
xpistos | why not go CAT6 | 18:58 |
johnhaitas | xpistos: that's what i'm going with | 19:07 |
johnhaitas | plenum cat6 | 19:07 |
cyberanger | johnhaitas: go cat6, it's got thicker shielding, capable of 10G ethernet too | 19:13 |
johnhaitas | cyberanger: ty | 19:13 |
johnhaitas | :) | 19:13 |
cyberanger | if the drywall isn't up, get what'll stand for years | 19:13 |
cyberanger | (not saying you'll ever need 10G ethernet, just that level of shielding is useful for slower speeds too) | 19:14 |
* cyberanger keeps drooling over 10G ethernet, keep using it in the datacenters, want it in my place | 19:15 | |
vychune | o/ | 19:34 |
cosmicpizza | ' afternoon | 19:34 |
vychune | hows it going | 19:35 |
cosmicpizza | howdy ? | 19:36 |
cosmicpizza | i'm very fine | 19:36 |
vychune | good | 19:36 |
vychune | howdy? | 19:36 |
cosmicpizza | i said i ' m fine dude !!!!!!!!!!!!! | 19:38 |
vychune | i know but why did say howdy? | 19:38 |
vychune | *did u say | 19:39 |
cosmicpizza | sorry | 19:39 |
vychune | ?me just found out what howdy stands for | 19:39 |
* vychune just found out what howdy stands for | 19:39 | |
vychune | chalk up another idiot mom=ent for my day lol | 19:39 |
cyberanger | lol, rotfl | 19:40 |
cyberanger | cosmicpizza: howdy isn't used much aside from the west, texas, arizona, new mexico | 19:40 |
cyberanger | it's known, usually, but kinda unusual here | 19:41 |
cyberanger | vychune: been a city slicker too long | 19:41 |
cosmicpizza | i didn' t know cyberanger sorry | 19:44 |
cyberanger | cell phone connection in memphis, no wonder he doesn't stay & chat long | 19:45 |
cyberanger | cosmicpizza: nothing to be sorry about, just letting you know something new | 19:45 |
cosmicpizza | ok | 19:46 |
cyberanger | I say howdy, but I dated a texan, made sense | 19:46 |
cyberanger | vychune: been a city slicker too long, eh? | 19:46 |
cyberanger | ;-) | 19:46 |
vychune | i hate dial up | 19:46 |
vychune | lol | 19:46 |
vychune | what i miss? | 19:46 |
cosmicpizza | i come here to learn more my english | 19:46 |
cosmicpizza | nothing vychune | 19:46 |
cyberanger | vychune: not much (when did leap wireless start a dial up division) | 19:47 |
vychune | cosmicpizza: where you from | 19:47 |
cyberanger | cosmicpizza: granted, I also goto the store & say bonjour | 19:47 |
cosmicpizza | i' m from france | 19:47 |
vychune | cyberanger: cricket broadband | 19:47 |
vychune | cosmicpizza: Salut lol | 19:48 |
cyberanger | vychune: ah, that explains the leap wireless then (same company) | 19:48 |
cosmicpizza | is there french bashing anymore in united states ? | 19:48 |
cosmicpizza | wow | 19:48 |
cyberanger | cosmicpizza: pockets near the border with quebec mainly | 19:49 |
cyberanger | one state has it's moments, but honestly, english is the big one by far, spanish as a minority | 19:50 |
cyberanger | french is even lower on that scale | 19:50 |
cyberanger | I hate that myself, my french (while low) is still better than my spanish | 19:51 |
cyberanger | makes me miss ontario growing up (lived near the border) | 19:51 |
vychune | -_- | 19:52 |
vychune | longest ive stayed up is ten minutes | 19:52 |
cosmicpizza | what happened vychune ???? | 19:53 |
vychune | connection keeps getting droped | 19:53 |
cosmicpizza | ok | 19:53 |
cyberanger | cosmicpizza: lets just say celluar networks here will make you miss france | 19:53 |
* vychune lives within walking distance of airport | 19:53 | |
cyberanger | internet & celluar connectivity isn't as stellar | 19:53 |
vychune | AT ALL | 19:53 |
cyberanger | vychune: oh boy, that doesn't help, MEM right? | 19:54 |
vychune | Memphis Internatioal yep | 19:54 |
cyberanger | cosmicpizza: we're better than canada for the most part, but compared to europe, sad | 19:54 |
vychune | mataku mo | 19:54 |
cyberanger | vychune: that explains some of that mess | 19:54 |
vychune | also, come on it's cricket AND dial up | 19:55 |
vychune | 3 strikes | 19:55 |
cyberanger | vychune: your 100% sure it's dial up | 19:56 |
vychune | it says dialing on start up | 19:56 |
vychune | clear give away lol | 19:56 |
cyberanger | my celluar card merely uses ppp from the laptop to the stick, hence that dial up bit | 19:57 |
cyberanger | but really it's not going over the towers that way | 19:57 |
vychune | oh | 19:57 |
cyberanger | nor is it limited to 54k like real dialup would be | 19:58 |
cyberanger | oh boy, he needs help | 19:58 |
cyberanger | for his connection | 19:58 |
chris4585 | binarymutant, I have success! sort of | 19:59 |
chris4585 | after taking the mobo apart and laying it on my kitchen table and assembling it that way, I get video, and I successfully changed to my pci-e card | 20:00 |
chris4585 | now I'm still having issues where it just keeps shutting off by itself | 20:00 |
chris4585 | I'm thinking its a cpu problem now... | 20:00 |
cyberanger | chris4585: and you've ruled out the PSU and loose cabling | 20:00 |
chris4585 | but :|!? | 20:00 |
chris4585 | cyberanger, the thing is it doesn't shut off when I'm in the bios or grub menu only when the cpu is doing something | 20:01 |
chris4585 | I tried with a bootable flash drive and it instantly shut off | 20:01 |
chris4585 | only when the cpu is doing some work like booting up or something | 20:02 |
chris4585 | like right now I'm doing a memtest and its doing fine? | 20:07 |
cyberanger | overheating symptoms | 20:09 |
chris4585 | so I know this guy I went to today and talked to him about it | 20:10 |
chris4585 | he suggested taking the mobo out of the case which I did and try setting it up on a table which I did | 20:10 |
chris4585 | I somehow got video back | 20:10 |
chris4585 | would you think I just need some thermal paste or something? | 20:11 |
jamdatadude | coudl be | 20:13 |
chris4585 | right now I've got it running and the desktop actually loaded this time | 20:13 |
chris4585 | spoke too soon, it shut off as I was trying to run apt-get | 20:17 |
cyberanger | chris4585: well, somethingin your case aided the issue | 20:18 |
cyberanger | I'd be trying to asses what is off first & foremost | 20:19 |
cyberanger | hard to fly blind | 20:19 |
chris4585 | what do you mean off? | 20:24 |
chris4585 | right now I'm getting video | 20:24 |
cyberanger | you seem to have heat related issue would be my thought | 20:25 |
cyberanger | if you took it out of the case & linked the cpu to the issue | 20:25 |
cyberanger | I'd be figuring out why it's overheating, on the table & in the case | 20:25 |
chris4585 | ah, well I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary | 20:26 |
chris4585 | the motherboard itself seems to be hot on the bottom | 20:27 |
cyberanger | you got it's risers correct | 20:28 |
cyberanger | in the case there is usually a cool cusion of air under it | 20:28 |
cyberanger | I'd be thinking the cpu's heatsink is dead or improperly seated | 20:28 |
cyberanger | just based on what you've said | 20:28 |
chris4585 | no I'm not on any risers right now | 20:33 |
chris4585 | I didn't know a heatsink could die | 20:33 |
chris4585 | I'm thinking this is the issue.. | 20:35 |
cyberanger | chris4585: well, anything with moving parts will with enough friction, enough use | 20:36 |
chris4585 | recently I did put the computer under some hard loads so.. | 20:36 |
cyberanger | dunno if yours is moving or not, but even the ones that don't move can become innefficent over time | 20:36 |
johnhaitas | cyberanger: you're advise is always solid | 21:07 |
cyberanger | johnhaitas: thanks | 21:09 |
johnhaitas | guys | 21:41 |
johnhaitas | real quick ... what is the command to build kernel modules? | 21:41 |
johnhaitas | i forget | 21:41 |
johnhaitas | found it | 21:42 |
johnhaitas | "module-assistant" | 21:43 |
cyberanger | lol, I'm getting slow | 21:46 |
cyberanger | one way (and probally the easiest) to do it | 21:46 |
Unit193 | Going to have to reboot soon :( | 21:47 |
cyberanger | Unit193: kernel updates? | 21:54 |
cyberanger | the world is coming to an end, please log off | 21:55 |
Unit193 | There's that too, but I normally ignore them. PS2 wasn't plugged in and Oneiric is out to update to | 21:55 |
* cyberanger is lost, what's a playstation gotta do with updating ubuntu | 22:02 | |
cyberanger | and natty to oneiric or oneiric updates | 22:02 |
Unit193 | PS/2 Mouse and Natty > Oneiric | 22:09 |
cyberanger | ah, that's not an issue | 22:13 |
cyberanger | just gotta restart some services (namely, gdm) | 22:14 |
cyberanger | unless there is a new kernel you desire to use | 22:14 |
Unit193 | BIOS didn't detect it as it wasn't plugged in | 22:18 |
johnhaitas | ps/2 mouse ... Unit193 you need to be doing realtime stuff w/ your mouse? | 22:22 |
Unit193 | johnhaitas: I don't follow... | 22:23 |
johnhaitas | Unit193: why a ps/2 mouse? | 22:23 |
johnhaitas | i've only used them over USB for real-time computing applications | 22:23 |
Unit193 | Because the computer is just that old | 22:24 |
Unit193 | It's what it has and the computer only has 2 USB ports (1 in use, other for flash drive) | 22:24 |
johnhaitas | Unit193: usb hub.... | 22:26 |
johnhaitas | brb | 22:26 |
Unit193 | That would require a spare USB keyboard and mouse | 22:27 |
johnhaitas | Unit193: understood | 22:27 |
johnhaitas | Unit193: you realize that ps2 peripherals are going to be low priority so far as support goes | 22:28 |
Unit193 | It works for me if I actually plug it in on boot... | 22:52 |
cyberanger | I'm supporting them just fine, linux is supporting them just fine, they work & last | 23:34 |
cyberanger | but since you brought it up pace_t_zulu, how much latency does usb add | 23:35 |
cyberanger | johnhaitas: ^^ old habit | 23:35 |
cyberanger | man, used to get 3 hours on this netbook, now it's roughly two | 23:40 |
Unit193 | I responded to that on another channel :P | 23:44 |
* cyberanger wonders what channel | 23:44 | |
chris4585 | any idea how I can figure out what type of heatsink I should buy? | 23:54 |
cyberanger | chris4585: one supported by your socket type, fan driven | 23:59 |
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