[02:08] yo sed works fine [02:08] use single quotes [02:09] # echo hi/there/pimp/ | sed 's/\//?/g' [02:09] hi?there?pimp? [02:10] and you dont escape the substitutions [02:10] a little cleaner: [02:10] # echo hi/there/pimp/ | sed 's#/#?#g' [02:10] hi?there?pimp? [02:19] thanks [02:28] http://www.osnews.com/story/25232/Dennis_Ritchie_Creator_of_UNIX_and_C_Dead_at_70 [02:57] well I believe I screwed my computer once again lol [02:59] chris4585: what happened? [03:01] chris4585: was it intentional [03:03] cyberanger, no lol [03:03] well it just suddenly started to shut off by itself again after I changed the PSUs [03:03] now thats my secondary issue.. [03:04] a few hours ago my onboard video (vga) was working fine [03:04] now.. I don't have any signal from it [03:04] I have a pci-e card and could use it if I could see the bios.. which I can't :/ [03:04] so I'm in a pickle [03:05] ouch, need the bios to enable it don't you? [03:06] it's not one that autodetects some events like a new graphics card, or blown chip [03:07] yeah and I can't see it [03:07] I can guess the layout as best I can, but it appears something is different.. [03:07] no I had to manually switch to my pci-e card when I put it in before [03:08] I believe I'm SOL [03:11] :( [03:11] chris4585: just on a mobo, any way you could have shorted it (even just the graphics chip on it or some other peice) as you dealt with the PSU [03:12] it could have possibly shorted something after all the times its randomly shutoff [03:13] as part of a power issue on the PSU, plus you swapping them, sounds like a good canidate [03:13] only a mobo though, could be worse [03:13] I believe I'm gonna switch the power source once more... [03:14] I'm pro at this now lol [03:14] the good news is it appears (not tested) to not shutting off now.. [03:16] * cyberanger grabs something handy in case we see an eletrical fire in say 20 seconds [03:16] * cyberanger throws the bucket of water on chris4585 [03:17] lol I don't think I will.. [03:18] wait a minute, this was for a brush fire, sorry chris4585 [03:18] * cyberanger hands chris4585 a towel [03:18] chris4585: i have one right now I'm working on i thought it was a psu i should have checked it but turned out to be a MB [03:20] wrst: and one can get one problem to cause another [03:21] yes it can, I suspect that could ahve been the issue here haven't gotten the MB yet [03:24] well, careful if the PSU is toast, you don't fry two boards [03:24] i have a new psu [03:24] but it would fire up run for just a little then shut off [03:25] ouch [03:25] yeah so that's not good for things :) [03:25] wrst, yeah the motherboard right now I think is basically fried :/ [03:26] oh and cyberanger my main server will be running debian if i have to do anything major to it again [03:26] wrst, yes thats what would be happening to me... [03:26] the power supplies I think are fine [03:27] yeah i think so [03:28] so I'm pretty sure the onboard vga connector? is fried or shorted, for a few weeks when I turned on my computer I would see this weird faint lines on my screen and now this :/ [03:28] you guys think I should look into buying another mobo and replacing the current one? [03:29] i'm thinking so but i would yield to cyberanger as I'm not having any luck either :) [03:29] well tomorrow I'm gonna pay a visit to someone who has a lot of experience with fixing computers [03:30] chris4585: you try a video card? [03:30] binarymutant: he can't get at the bios to enable it [03:30] why not? [03:31] vga seems fried [03:31] or possibly onboard [03:31] correct [03:31] pnp [03:31] jist is, his problem is interferring with getting to the bios to enable the pci-e card [03:31] binarymutant, I have 2 I could try but I can't get into the bios and see the configuration [03:32] should be plug n play [03:32] I had to manually switch to pci-e before [03:32] eithr his board is fried entirely, or plug and play isn't working as it should [03:32] or the board is older than pnp (as mine is for pci-e) [03:32] pnp is like mid 90's [03:32] that's def. a pickle [03:33] when i turn my computer on both fans (ontop of the cpu and on the back) turn on, no beeps and no video signal [03:33] same thing with two psu's [03:33] it's your vga for sure [03:34] anyway I can get this repaired without buying another mobo? [03:34] or monitor, try switching monitors. If that doesn't work than it's the video card [03:34] no, I've tried two monitors, my main one works fine [03:34] chris4585: no one will do onboard video replacement except the manufact. [03:35] chris4585: and quite honestly, not worth it in most cases [03:35] ah ok [03:35] binarymutant: mine is early pci-e [03:35] so I am SOL, buy another mobo basically? [03:35] 2004, won't do it [03:35] putting in the card doesn't work? [03:35] nope [03:36] anyway I could flash my bios or update it without visually seeing the screen? lol [03:36] what motherboard is this? OEM should have the bios set to card, then onboard [03:36] that would be lovely [03:36] this is the computer binarymutant http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883107363 [03:37] got it in 2007 I think [03:37] that's too good of a pc to trash [03:37] yeah [03:38] lets just say I'm determined to get this thing fixed [03:38] flash it: http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/download/bios/Awdflash.exe [03:38] good luck, don't brick it :D [03:38] I even tried navigating the bios without visually seeing it and changing settings but didn't do anything [03:39] D: [03:39] I've never flashed anything, what would that do exactly? [03:40] wait idk if you can without seeing it... [03:40] that's a pickle [03:40] yep [03:42] errm [03:42] chris4585: sorry :( [03:43] chris4585: reset jumper on the mobo! [03:43] blam fixed [03:44] uh where would that be exactly? [03:45] there's either a jumper or just take the cmos battery out [03:45] oh well I guess I could try the cmos [03:46] just flip the battery out [03:46] chris4585: http://www.wikihow.com/Reset-Your-BIOS [03:48] really 5 to 10mins? [03:48] it has to discharge [03:48] or something idk [03:49] the mobo's I've seen had a jumper [03:49] 5-10minutes vs new motherboard :D [03:51] I'll try this, but I must ask, what type of mobo do I have and would any kind of the type I need work? [03:51] I should know this.. [03:52] I think its ATX? [03:53] atx is big/old [03:54] micro atx? [03:54] more than likely [03:54] that looks right.. [03:55] idk how HP does their boxes, but you should be able to put any atx/micro in there [03:55] so would any micro atx mobo work [03:55] ah alright [03:55] but if it has a lot of plastic inside then maybe not :/ [03:55] I basically took the whole computer tonight and took off the casing and plastic [03:56] its stripped down to, psu, mobo/cpu, fans, harddrive, card reader, so I should be good [03:56] plastic=not a white box [03:57] lol I just have the metal case right now [03:57] :D [03:57] binarymutant, thanks for your help [03:57] naked [03:57] yep [03:57] hope that works [04:03] welp, this is my naked beauty http://i.imgur.com/G3LfB.jpg [04:03] a bit blurry had to take the flash off, was too shiny lol [04:05] ooo aahh [04:06] i see you took the cmos battery out :D [04:07] lol yeah [04:07] I don't see how you see that well its soo blurry [04:09] superpowers [04:09] lol [04:09] a lot of 8bit/16bit video games :D [04:10] haha, I miss that era [04:10] well the video games anyway [04:11] big pixel blurs [04:37] binarymutant, I know I have an amd cpu, but do you know if its AM2 type? [04:37] thats what I'm thinking [04:37] am2? [04:37] idk what that is, sorry [04:38] ah alright, cpus are the department I know just about nothing [04:38] ya me too [04:38] the basics, the rest is on google :D [05:16] johnhaitas: You did come back! We thought you were just going to rage quit! [05:16] ;) [05:16] haha [05:16] i had to do some hardening on the server [05:16] forgot to log back in [05:17] i'm back [05:23] johnhaitas: don't harden you network too hard, gonna make irc a real pain to use ;-) [05:35] cyberanger: it was a basic thing that needed to be done [05:53] why stop with the basics ;-) [13:20] hello crazyguy510 [13:29] Hello. [13:36] * wrst_amazon tries out a cloud isntance [15:10] * cyberanger wonders about wrst [15:23] Morning [15:27] cyberanger: why is that? [15:27] morning xpistos [15:32] Capo [15:36] how are you doing xpistos? [15:36] wrst: aside from getting annoyed with a printer. not bad [15:36] you ? [15:38] oh i'm doing well not doing much of anythign :) and I hate printers xpistos [15:38] lol [15:38] fiddling with Arch too [15:40] i'm using 11.10 right now its very nice [15:41] or very nice compared to 11.04 :) [15:41] but don't think its replacing arch [16:51] wrst: why is what [17:44] happy oneiric day everyone [17:56] cyberanger: with arch i dont' have to risk trashing my entire system every 6 months [17:56] johnhaitas: happy indeed the finished product is actually pretty nice [18:02] wrst: somehow they always bring it together nicely [18:03] wrst: remember karmic ... when they dropped the new theme on us [18:03] before the new new theme in lucid [18:03] well i would argue that nothing in 11.04 was brought together nicely ;) but i think unity will be good by LTS and that's the goal I'm sure [18:03] yeah johnhaitas I think i was one of the few that liked karmic :) [18:04] wrst: i usually like the releases [18:04] natty was not my favorite [18:05] parts looked good ... but the lack of proper 2d unity was a problem for VMs [18:06] i wont be so PC unity in 11.04 sucked [18:19] johnhaitas: remember karmic where they dropped grub2 on us and dropped hal [18:19] wrst: I'd say lucid was nice, since it followed karmic [18:19] the headache of headaches [18:20] wrst: same with debian testing [18:53] hey guys ... networking question [18:53] i am running wired networking cable in my new house before drywall goes up [18:56] CAT5e or CAT6 [18:56] i am inclined to go CAT6 [18:58] why not go CAT6 [19:07] xpistos: that's what i'm going with [19:07] plenum cat6 [19:13] johnhaitas: go cat6, it's got thicker shielding, capable of 10G ethernet too [19:13] cyberanger: ty [19:13] :) [19:13] if the drywall isn't up, get what'll stand for years [19:14] (not saying you'll ever need 10G ethernet, just that level of shielding is useful for slower speeds too) [19:15] * cyberanger keeps drooling over 10G ethernet, keep using it in the datacenters, want it in my place [19:34] o/ [19:34] ' afternoon [19:35] hows it going [19:36] howdy ? [19:36] i'm very fine [19:36] good [19:36] howdy? [19:38] i said i ' m fine dude !!!!!!!!!!!!! [19:38] i know but why did say howdy? [19:39] *did u say [19:39] sorry [19:39] ?me just found out what howdy stands for [19:39] * vychune just found out what howdy stands for [19:39] chalk up another idiot mom=ent for my day lol [19:40] lol, rotfl [19:40] cosmicpizza: howdy isn't used much aside from the west, texas, arizona, new mexico [19:41] it's known, usually, but kinda unusual here [19:41] vychune: been a city slicker too long [19:44] i didn' t know cyberanger sorry [19:45] cell phone connection in memphis, no wonder he doesn't stay & chat long [19:45] cosmicpizza: nothing to be sorry about, just letting you know something new [19:46] ok [19:46] I say howdy, but I dated a texan, made sense [19:46] vychune: been a city slicker too long, eh? [19:46] ;-) [19:46] i hate dial up [19:46] lol [19:46] what i miss? [19:46] i come here to learn more my english [19:46] nothing vychune [19:47] vychune: not much (when did leap wireless start a dial up division) [19:47] cosmicpizza: where you from [19:47] cosmicpizza: granted, I also goto the store & say bonjour [19:47] i' m from france [19:47] cyberanger: cricket broadband [19:48] cosmicpizza: Salut lol [19:48] vychune: ah, that explains the leap wireless then (same company) [19:48] is there french bashing anymore in united states ? [19:48] wow [19:49] cosmicpizza: pockets near the border with quebec mainly [19:50] one state has it's moments, but honestly, english is the big one by far, spanish as a minority [19:50] french is even lower on that scale [19:51] I hate that myself, my french (while low) is still better than my spanish [19:51] makes me miss ontario growing up (lived near the border) [19:52] -_- [19:52] longest ive stayed up is ten minutes [19:53] what happened vychune ???? [19:53] connection keeps getting droped [19:53] ok [19:53] cosmicpizza: lets just say celluar networks here will make you miss france [19:53] * vychune lives within walking distance of airport [19:53] internet & celluar connectivity isn't as stellar [19:53] AT ALL [19:54] vychune: oh boy, that doesn't help, MEM right? [19:54] Memphis Internatioal yep [19:54] cosmicpizza: we're better than canada for the most part, but compared to europe, sad [19:54] mataku mo [19:54] vychune: that explains some of that mess [19:55] also, come on it's cricket AND dial up [19:55] 3 strikes [19:56] vychune: your 100% sure it's dial up [19:56] it says dialing on start up [19:56] clear give away lol [19:57] my celluar card merely uses ppp from the laptop to the stick, hence that dial up bit [19:57] but really it's not going over the towers that way [19:57] oh [19:58] nor is it limited to 54k like real dialup would be [19:58] oh boy, he needs help [19:58] for his connection [19:59] binarymutant, I have success! sort of [20:00] after taking the mobo apart and laying it on my kitchen table and assembling it that way, I get video, and I successfully changed to my pci-e card [20:00] now I'm still having issues where it just keeps shutting off by itself [20:00] I'm thinking its a cpu problem now... [20:00] chris4585: and you've ruled out the PSU and loose cabling [20:00] but :|!? [20:01] cyberanger, the thing is it doesn't shut off when I'm in the bios or grub menu only when the cpu is doing something [20:01] I tried with a bootable flash drive and it instantly shut off [20:02] only when the cpu is doing some work like booting up or something [20:07] like right now I'm doing a memtest and its doing fine? [20:09] overheating symptoms [20:10] so I know this guy I went to today and talked to him about it [20:10] he suggested taking the mobo out of the case which I did and try setting it up on a table which I did [20:10] I somehow got video back [20:11] would you think I just need some thermal paste or something? [20:13] coudl be [20:13] right now I've got it running and the desktop actually loaded this time [20:17] spoke too soon, it shut off as I was trying to run apt-get [20:18] chris4585: well, somethingin your case aided the issue [20:19] I'd be trying to asses what is off first & foremost [20:19] hard to fly blind [20:24] what do you mean off? [20:24] right now I'm getting video [20:25] you seem to have heat related issue would be my thought [20:25] if you took it out of the case & linked the cpu to the issue [20:25] I'd be figuring out why it's overheating, on the table & in the case [20:26] ah, well I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary [20:27] the motherboard itself seems to be hot on the bottom [20:28] you got it's risers correct [20:28] in the case there is usually a cool cusion of air under it [20:28] I'd be thinking the cpu's heatsink is dead or improperly seated [20:28] just based on what you've said [20:33] no I'm not on any risers right now [20:33] I didn't know a heatsink could die [20:35] I'm thinking this is the issue.. [20:36] chris4585: well, anything with moving parts will with enough friction, enough use [20:36] recently I did put the computer under some hard loads so.. [20:36] dunno if yours is moving or not, but even the ones that don't move can become innefficent over time [21:07] cyberanger: you're advise is always solid [21:09] johnhaitas: thanks [21:41] guys [21:41] real quick ... what is the command to build kernel modules? [21:41] i forget [21:42] found it [21:43] "module-assistant" [21:46] lol, I'm getting slow [21:46] one way (and probally the easiest) to do it [21:47] Going to have to reboot soon :( [21:54] Unit193: kernel updates? [21:55] the world is coming to an end, please log off [21:55] There's that too, but I normally ignore them. PS2 wasn't plugged in and Oneiric is out to update to [22:02] * cyberanger is lost, what's a playstation gotta do with updating ubuntu [22:02] and natty to oneiric or oneiric updates [22:09] PS/2 Mouse and Natty > Oneiric [22:13] ah, that's not an issue [22:14] just gotta restart some services (namely, gdm) [22:14] unless there is a new kernel you desire to use [22:18] BIOS didn't detect it as it wasn't plugged in [22:22] ps/2 mouse ... Unit193 you need to be doing realtime stuff w/ your mouse? [22:23] johnhaitas: I don't follow... [22:23] Unit193: why a ps/2 mouse? [22:23] i've only used them over USB for real-time computing applications [22:24] Because the computer is just that old [22:24] It's what it has and the computer only has 2 USB ports (1 in use, other for flash drive) [22:26] Unit193: usb hub.... [22:26] brb [22:27] That would require a spare USB keyboard and mouse [22:27] Unit193: understood [22:28] Unit193: you realize that ps2 peripherals are going to be low priority so far as support goes [22:52] It works for me if I actually plug it in on boot... [23:34] I'm supporting them just fine, linux is supporting them just fine, they work & last [23:35] but since you brought it up pace_t_zulu, how much latency does usb add [23:35] johnhaitas: ^^ old habit [23:40] man, used to get 3 hours on this netbook, now it's roughly two [23:44] I responded to that on another channel :P [23:44] * cyberanger wonders what channel [23:54] any idea how I can figure out what type of heatsink I should buy? [23:59] chris4585: one supported by your socket type, fan driven