[19:38] <LLStarks> other than intel, what's holding back edgers oneiric?
[19:40] <LLStarks> Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>=2:1.10.99.901) but 2:1.10.1-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[19:40] <LLStarks> i guess abi?
[19:44] <Sarvatt> you have something providing the old abi, virtualbox? newer nvidia drivers?
[19:44] <Sarvatt> or fglrx
[19:44] <Sarvatt> fglrx doesn't work with 1.11, its not even in the ppa so if its installed you'll get that
[19:45] <jcristau> nvidia doesn't work right either.
[19:45] <bjsnider> does now
[19:45] <jcristau> well didn't last i checked, yesterday or so.
[19:46] <Sarvatt> nah nvidia doesn't work right, jcristau is right :)
[19:46] <Sarvatt> check debian-x mailing list if you dont believe him lol
[19:46] <jcristau> we were up to 13 or 14 dupes i think
[19:46] <Sarvatt> extremely high cpu usage
[19:46] <jcristau> aaronp said it'll be fixed in the next beta
[19:46] <bjsnider> using 285.05.09?
[19:47] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: yeah
[19:47] <jcristau> using whatever's current
[19:47] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: affects some generation nvidia's a lot more than others
[19:47] <jcristau> i'm not using nvidia, i just suffer from the bug log.
[19:47] <jcristau> s/log/mail
[19:48] <bjsnider> well, that's the first one that allegedly supports 1.11
[19:49] <Sarvatt> there's a nvnews post about it
[19:49] <Sarvatt> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=166698
[19:50] <Sarvatt> lots of people using debian on 8xxx and 9xxx nvidias apparently :)
[19:51] <jcristau> mostly using testing, even, as the bug flood pretty much started when X 1.11 got there :)
[19:52] <bjsnider> bug's about trapezoid acceleration?
[19:53] <bjsnider> my cheap little card must support full trapezoid acceleration
[19:54] <Sarvatt> gt200+ does
[19:54] <bjsnider> nvidia-settings -q AccelerateTrapezoids
[19:54] <bjsnider> that prints stuff, so i guess i'm ok
[19:54] <bjsnider> i've got a fanless gt210
[20:08] <LLStarks> sarvatt, i think synaptics and intel are holding me back
[20:08] <LLStarks> natty edgers is fine
[20:08] <Sarvatt> i dont know where you are getting those from then, another ppa active?
[20:09] <Sarvatt> LLStarks: btw if you use unity it doesn't work with xserver 1.11 in edgers
[20:09] <LLStarks> i'm mint
[20:09] <LLStarks> so don't care about unity
[20:10] <Sarvatt> there's an oneiric based mint?
[20:11] <LLStarks> no
[20:11] <Sarvatt> so dont use oneiric edgers
[20:11] <Sarvatt> it relies on other things in oneiric that arent in the ppa
[20:11] <LLStarks> ah ok.
[20:20] <LLStarks> does synaptics-dkms multitouch work with natty?
[20:22] <Sarvatt> was it made for natty wherever you got it?
[20:23] <Sarvatt> imagine it's probably already in the natty kernels if it was only built for earlier ones, no clue if mint uses ubuntu kernels
[20:24] <Sarvatt> i dont even know what it is so probably shouldn't be responding :)