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Kilosmorning superfly and others05:10
KilosMaaz, coffee on05:10
* Maaz flips the salt-timer05:10
superflymorning Kilos!05:10
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!05:14
KilosMaaz, ty05:14
MaazEnjoy Kilos05:14
jpm[mobile]Maaz: is it out yet?08:35
Maazjpm[mobile]: *blink*08:35
* tumbleweed reminds people to visit #ubuntu-release-party09:06
superflytumbleweed: what, so we can watch everyone asking "is it released yet?!"09:58
zereflulz10:03
* drubin forgot today was release today10:04
tumbleweedsuperfly: and get kicked when they announce URLs10:28
tumbleweedhttp://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ rather neat13:32
tumbleweed(it released btw)13:32
superflywow, that's pretty awesome13:35
superflyw00t, downloading ISOs15:09
zerefo0o015:11
inetprogood evening15:28
inetprosuperfly: let me know how the upgrade goes or are you planning to do a fresh install?15:29
superflyinetpro: I upgraded to beta 1, I'm not going to reinstall15:32
superflyzeref: 4Mbps uncapped FTW15:32
inetprosuperfly: ah, so you should almost be up to date then?15:32
inetprosuperfly: any new issues yet?15:33
inetprosuperfly: or nice improvements?15:33
zerefsuperfly, NICE15:33
zerefi'll be getting 11.10 later tonightz15:33
superflyinetpro: yeah, almost up-to-date15:34
superflybut Kmail2 is still a pile of steaming dogpoo15:34
* inetpro will stick to Thunderbird until one day when superfly raves about kmail215:36
* nuvolari will use the thunderbird in the tour :P15:52
nuvolariok, home time15:53
Maaznuvolari: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell nuvolari to have a look at oracle.com/javamagazine" 1 day, 22 hours, 17 minutes and 40 seconds ago15:53
nuvolariMaaz: tell magespawn cool! thanks, I'll have a look15:53
Maaznuvolari: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode15:53
superflyevening nuvolari16:01
Kilosevening all18:08
KilosMaaz,  coffee on18:08
* Maaz puts the kettle on18:08
superflyhi Kilos18:08
superflyyou want me to mail Ubuntu to you again?18:08
Kilosyes please superfly 18:09
superflyKilos: which ones do you want?18:09
Kiloswill try give kubuntu a bit more time to sink in this time and wont let ian steal it18:09
Kilosubuntu, kubuntu i think will be great ty superfly 18:11
superflyOK18:12
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!18:12
KilosMaaz, ty18:12
MaazEnjoy Kilos18:12
superflyKilos: I'm downloading them all at the moment, but we're moving this weekend, so it'll only be next week or the week after18:12
Kilosare you almost packed for your move superfly 18:13
Kilosno rush my friend ty18:13
* Kilos hates moving18:14
Kiloshaai inetpro lewe jy nog??18:15
Kilosthe more ubuntu advances the smaller this channel gets18:16
Kilossigh18:16
superflyKilos: well, we're moving in bits and pieces, but all the big bits and large pieces are moving this saturday18:19
Kilossterkte18:20
superflydankie18:21
zerefhmmmm18:26
superflyevening Maaz18:32
superfly*magespawn18:32
magespawnhi superfly18:32
Kiloshi magespawn 18:33
superflyupgraded yet?18:33
magespawnthe one in the shop was busy when i left.18:33
superflygood man18:33
superfly;-)18:33
magespawni keep my laptop on 10.0418:34
superfly3 more ISOs, including this one, and then I have Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Ubuntu Server, both 32 and 64 bit.18:46
Kiloswhat speed superfly 18:47
magespawnhi Kilos did not even see you.18:48
superfly400 to 420 KB/s18:48
Kiloslol18:48
Kilosthats hsdpa speed18:49
superflyKilos: in other words, I'm getting close to my 4Mbps18:49
Kilosnee man18:49
Kilosunder half a meg/s18:49
superflyKilos: Mbps != MB/s18:50
superflyMbps = Megabits per second18:50
superflyMB/s = MegaBytes per second18:50
Kilos400 KB/s is under half a m/s?18:50
magespawnconnection speed and actual download speed are different18:50
superflyKilos: yes, it is18:50
Kilos4000 kB/s is megs18:51
superflyKilos: yes, but line speed is measures in BITS per second, not BYTES per second18:51
Kilosim lost now18:51
Kilosdid you mean 400 or 4000KB/s18:51
magespawn8 bites to a byte18:51
superflya bit is the single smallest value in computers18:52
Kilosyes18:52
superflyKilos: while a byte is 8 bits18:52
Kilosyes18:52
superflyADSL speed is measures in bits per second18:52
Kilosoh thats even slower than bytes18:53
superflybut downloads are usually talked about in bytes per second18:53
superflybecause a byte is how computers actually work18:53
magespawni usually get 109 on my 1 meg line.18:54
Kilosyes i understand the bits and bytes part, but you lose me when you say you getting 400KB/s sec and relate that to 4m/s18:54
Kilosi get a max of 350kB/s and never near 1m?s18:55
superflyKilos: when you send data over a network, the data is not just shoved down the network cable, it is first divided up into packets18:55
superflyeach of those packets has a little bit of data attached to it, to tell the receiving computer how to put all the data back together18:56
superflyso when we talk about Mbps, we're talking about the data, plus the extra bit of information associated with those packets18:56
superflyand when we talk about KB/s, we're talking about just the data you're sending, not the extra information18:57
Kilosoh mbits/sec18:57
Kilossorry i slow18:57
Kilosthats 8 times slower than MB/s18:57
Kiloshi amanica 19:01
amanicahi Kilos 19:05
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. see ya morrow , of and on19:05
amanicathx my adsl was down for a while, turns out it is on again!!!! thx19:05
superflyI think he still doesn't quite get it19:05
superflyamanica: just in time for the new release ;-)19:05
amanicayeah!19:06
amanicamy torrents went down that is how I noticed to start with19:06
magespawnsuperfly dropping people in the deep end does tend to cover them information.19:08
magespawnnight all.19:11
inetproguten abend19:20
zerefhurrrrmmm19:35
zerefsuddenly, no internet19:42
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