[05:10] morning superfly and others [05:10] Maaz, coffee on [05:10] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [05:10] morning Kilos! [05:14] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [05:14] Maaz, ty [05:14] Enjoy Kilos [08:35] Maaz: is it out yet? [08:35] jpm[mobile]: *blink* [09:06] * tumbleweed reminds people to visit #ubuntu-release-party [09:58] tumbleweed: what, so we can watch everyone asking "is it released yet?!" [10:03] lulz [10:04] * drubin forgot today was release today [10:28] superfly: and get kicked when they announce URLs [13:32] http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ rather neat [13:32] (it released btw) [13:35] wow, that's pretty awesome [15:09] w00t, downloading ISOs [15:11] o0o0 [15:28] good evening [15:29] superfly: let me know how the upgrade goes or are you planning to do a fresh install? [15:32] inetpro: I upgraded to beta 1, I'm not going to reinstall [15:32] zeref: 4Mbps uncapped FTW [15:32] superfly: ah, so you should almost be up to date then? [15:33] superfly: any new issues yet? [15:33] superfly: or nice improvements? [15:33] superfly, NICE [15:33] i'll be getting 11.10 later tonightz [15:34] inetpro: yeah, almost up-to-date [15:34] but Kmail2 is still a pile of steaming dogpoo [15:36] * inetpro will stick to Thunderbird until one day when superfly raves about kmail2 [15:52] * nuvolari will use the thunderbird in the tour :P [15:53] ok, home time [15:53] nuvolari: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell nuvolari to have a look at oracle.com/javamagazine" 1 day, 22 hours, 17 minutes and 40 seconds ago [15:53] Maaz: tell magespawn cool! thanks, I'll have a look [15:53] nuvolari: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [16:01] evening nuvolari [18:08] evening all [18:08] Maaz, coffee on [18:08] * Maaz puts the kettle on [18:08] hi Kilos [18:08] you want me to mail Ubuntu to you again? [18:09] yes please superfly [18:09] Kilos: which ones do you want? [18:09] will try give kubuntu a bit more time to sink in this time and wont let ian steal it [18:11] ubuntu, kubuntu i think will be great ty superfly [18:12] OK [18:12] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [18:12] Maaz, ty [18:12] Enjoy Kilos [18:12] Kilos: I'm downloading them all at the moment, but we're moving this weekend, so it'll only be next week or the week after [18:13] are you almost packed for your move superfly [18:13] no rush my friend ty [18:14] * Kilos hates moving [18:15] haai inetpro lewe jy nog?? [18:16] the more ubuntu advances the smaller this channel gets [18:16] sigh [18:19] Kilos: well, we're moving in bits and pieces, but all the big bits and large pieces are moving this saturday [18:20] sterkte [18:21] dankie [18:26] hmmmm [18:32] evening Maaz [18:32] *magespawn [18:32] hi superfly [18:33] hi magespawn [18:33] upgraded yet? [18:33] the one in the shop was busy when i left. [18:33] good man [18:33] ;-) [18:34] i keep my laptop on 10.04 [18:46] 3 more ISOs, including this one, and then I have Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Ubuntu Server, both 32 and 64 bit. [18:47] what speed superfly [18:48] hi Kilos did not even see you. [18:48] 400 to 420 KB/s [18:48] lol [18:49] thats hsdpa speed [18:49] Kilos: in other words, I'm getting close to my 4Mbps [18:49] nee man [18:49] under half a meg/s [18:50] Kilos: Mbps != MB/s [18:50] Mbps = Megabits per second [18:50] MB/s = MegaBytes per second [18:50] 400 KB/s is under half a m/s? [18:50] connection speed and actual download speed are different [18:50] Kilos: yes, it is [18:51] 4000 kB/s is megs [18:51] Kilos: yes, but line speed is measures in BITS per second, not BYTES per second [18:51] im lost now [18:51] did you mean 400 or 4000KB/s [18:51] 8 bites to a byte [18:52] a bit is the single smallest value in computers [18:52] yes [18:52] Kilos: while a byte is 8 bits [18:52] yes [18:52] ADSL speed is measures in bits per second [18:53] oh thats even slower than bytes [18:53] but downloads are usually talked about in bytes per second [18:53] because a byte is how computers actually work [18:54] i usually get 109 on my 1 meg line. [18:54] yes i understand the bits and bytes part, but you lose me when you say you getting 400KB/s sec and relate that to 4m/s [18:55] i get a max of 350kB/s and never near 1m?s [18:55] Kilos: when you send data over a network, the data is not just shoved down the network cable, it is first divided up into packets [18:56] each of those packets has a little bit of data attached to it, to tell the receiving computer how to put all the data back together [18:56] so when we talk about Mbps, we're talking about the data, plus the extra bit of information associated with those packets [18:57] and when we talk about KB/s, we're talking about just the data you're sending, not the extra information [18:57] oh mbits/sec [18:57] sorry i slow [18:57] thats 8 times slower than MB/s [19:01] hi amanica [19:05] hi Kilos [19:05] night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow , of and on [19:05] thx my adsl was down for a while, turns out it is on again!!!! thx [19:05] I think he still doesn't quite get it [19:05] amanica: just in time for the new release ;-) [19:06] yeah! [19:06] my torrents went down that is how I noticed to start with [19:08] superfly dropping people in the deep end does tend to cover them information. [19:11] night all. [19:20] guten abend [19:35] hurrrrmmm [19:42] suddenly, no internet === agent2 is now known as aquarat [23:35] shiny http://thenewubuntu.com/