| * hyperair grumbles at smspillaz. there's no way to disable alt-grave! | 02:01 | |
| hyperair | smspillaz: | 03:53 |
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| hyperair | oops | 03:53 |
| hyperair | smspillaz: http://paste.debian.net/136355/ | 03:53 |
| smspillaz | hyperair: wouldn't it be better to make KeyboardUtil::findKeyAboveTab return nothing ? | 03:55 |
| hyperair | smspillaz: why so? | 03:56 |
| smspillaz | because you might want to bind another key to 'next window' and that patch focibly disables the next window callback | 03:56 |
| smspillaz | or .. better yet, have an option like "next window override" which allows you to specify your own key | 03:57 |
| hyperair | no, it only forcibly disables alt+grave | 03:57 |
| hyperair | the alt+left/right still work | 03:57 |
| hyperair | in fact, successive alt+graves don't work. | 03:57 |
| smspillaz | right, but what if the user wants to *not* use alt-keyabovetab but alt-somethingelse | 03:57 |
| hyperair | the only thing alt+grave does for me is bring up the switcher, and stay there | 03:57 |
| hyperair | smspillaz: right, so we should have a customizable keybinding | 03:58 |
| hyperair | instead of alt+keyabovetab | 03:58 |
| hyperair | but defaulting to alt+keyabovetab? | 03:58 |
| hyperair | how do we do that? | 03:58 |
| smspillaz | easy | 03:58 |
| hyperair | ? | 03:58 |
| smspillaz | you add an option for "Next Window", and if the keybinding is not "None" you use that instead of detecting the key above tab | 03:59 |
| hyperair | and what if it is None? | 03:59 |
| hyperair | what if i want to disable the keybinding? | 04:00 |
| hyperair | and seriously, why does unity get so many hardcoded crap keybindings? | 04:00 |
| hyperair | in natty the super key was working erratically | 04:00 |
| hyperair | all my *other* super-keybindings stopped functioning | 04:01 |
| smspillaz | hyperair: the super key should be working again, unfortunately passive key grabs with X are a bit of a nightmare | 04:13 |
| smspillaz | (and distro wouldn't let me push my fix into natty :() | 04:13 |
| hyperair | heh oh well | 04:13 |
| smspillaz | hyperair: I have a patch which allows you to change "detected" key to "something else" but unfortunately not to "nothing" | 04:15 |
| smspillaz | the compiz keybindings system doesn't really provide a way to do "detect a key", though maybe this should be moved int ocore | 04:15 |
| hyperair | what do you mean "detect a key"? | 04:15 |
| smspillaz | as in, in the metadata to have a tag that says "key above, left of, right of, below X" | 04:17 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: morning :) | 06:07 |
| didrocks | hey smspillaz | 06:07 |
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| mardy | Saviq: hi, I'm a bit confused by https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity-2d/bugfix/+merge/79287 | 08:40 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 79287 in Ubuntu "Bug in bug #1, ubuntu does contain nonfree software" [Undecided,Invalid] | 08:40 |
| mardy | Saviq: should I review it? Did you do the rebase yourself to help rento? | 08:41 |
| mardy | *Renato | 08:41 |
| Saviq | mardy: yes, I did rebase | 08:41 |
| Saviq | well, I had to uncommit and commit again, 'cause his `bzr merge` messed things up | 08:42 |
| mardy | :-) | 08:42 |
| Saviq | mardy: buy anyway I'd wait for him before reviewing again | 08:42 |
| Saviq | *but | 08:42 |
| Saviq | 'cause I'm not sure if he still wants to work on my race issue or not | 08:42 |
| Saviq | (possible race issue) | 08:43 |
| Saviq | he's on brazillian time, so won't be here until 12pm UTC or so | 08:45 |
| Bacta | Hi I unstalled Ubuntu 11.10 and I can't start in Gnome | 09:06 |
| Bacta | How can I delete Unity and have Gnome instead? | 09:06 |
| greyback | Bacta: install "gnome-shell" to get gnome3 | 09:28 |
| Bacta | Will this mean I can start Ubuntu without Unity? | 09:40 |
| greyback | Bacta: yes, at the log in screen, click the settings cog, and you can select a different desktop | 09:45 |
| Bacta | cool | 09:46 |
| greyback | Bacta: Any particular reason why you dislike Unity? | 09:47 |
| Bacta | Can't move it from the left | 09:53 |
| Bacta | My menu items are no longer docked to the top of my app | 09:53 |
| Bacta | They're minor gripes but Ubuntu is meant to be about choice | 09:53 |
| greyback | Bacta: Fair enough. Though I had to admit, I got used to the new workflow and quite like it. | 09:57 |
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| TLE | Hallo everyone. I was wondering about a lens that would allow people to start up chats in empathy, is something like available from somewhere or being worked on? I found the development blogs af Seif Lofty from a year back but was unable to conclude how far the work is. | 12:56 |
| TLE | sorry, _Lotfy_, and I see that he is actually here | 12:58 |
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| bregma | hay guys, my unity-2d panel spontaneously disappeared and won't come back, can anyone give me a clue what to look for to get back to a working desktop? | 13:40 |
| om26er | gord, Hi! there is a regression in the 4.24 release see the screenshot http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=178963 | 14:10 |
| om26er | they were supposed to be 4 icons in a row now they are three for desktop dash mode | 14:10 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, te gusta? http://people.ubuntu.com/~andyrock/Selection_005.png | 14:21 |
| andyrock | it's a WIP... | 14:21 |
| andyrock | not a mockup | 14:21 |
| njpatel | andyrock, I'll pay you a lot of money if you make it pick colours from the theme ,or at least the ubuntu brand colours (for the monitors) :) | 14:25 |
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| andyrock | njpatel, should we pick colours from the theme just for the panel or for the wallpaper too? | 14:28 |
| njpatel | andyrock, I meant the wallpaper area, like instead of pale orange/yellow, it could be something from the theme, so at least it matches | 14:29 |
| JohnLea | andyrock; cool! I take it you have seen https://launchpadlibrarian.net/82534397/system_settings_10_08_11_03.png | 14:32 |
| JohnLea | (attached to bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/742544 ) | 14:32 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 742544 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Launcher is shown on the wrong screen in some multi-monitor setups" [High,Confirmed] | 14:32 |
| andyrock | njpatel, i think that the colours are used to distinguish the various monitors | 14:34 |
| njpatel | andyrock, right, but they could be chosen from a pallete that at least looks nice, right? anywya, I don't mean to derail the work, sorry :) | 14:35 |
| andyrock | njpatel, indeed... current colors are weird :) | 14:37 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, thanks for the link... I could no longer find it | 14:37 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, in the mockup there is no clock in the scaled panel | 14:38 |
| andyrock | should I remove it? | 14:38 |
| JohnLea | andyrock; yes, thx | 14:39 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, yw ;) It will be ready in a week... I've to study :/ | 14:40 |
| andyrock | njpatel, I will try to use the wallpaper to draw the background | 14:41 |
| andyrock | njpatel, can I use libunity to know if unity is running? | 14:41 |
| njpatel | andyrock, yep, I believe so | 14:41 |
| andyrock | njpatel, thx | 14:42 |
| JohnLea | andyrock; if you could make the background dynamically use the current wallpaper that would be awesome! | 14:43 |
| andyrock | JohnLea, should not be so difficult... :) We should change launcher and panel color according to wallpaper main color | 14:45 |
| andyrock | i mean if the wallpaper main colour is white we can use black as launcher bg color | 14:47 |
| andyrock | etc... | 14:47 |
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| andyrock | om26er, do you have a multi-head setup? :) | 15:16 |
| andyrock | i'm not at home and i will not able to use my multi head setup until Christmas | 15:17 |
| andyrock | om26er, so i need a tester ;) | 15:17 |
| om26er | andyrock, wish i had, thats y i dont triage multi-monitor | 15:17 |
| om26er | maybe one day I will be provided with one :p | 15:18 |
| andyrock | om26er, you broke my heart :) | 15:18 |
| andyrock | htorque, and you? | 15:18 |
| om26er | andyrock, funny someone broke mine today :( | 15:19 |
| andyrock | om26er, oh i'm sorry | 15:20 |
| om26er | andyrock, np ;-) | 15:21 |
| htorque_ | andyrock: i can hook up my notebook to my pc monitor if you need someone to test something :-) | 15:29 |
| andyrock | htorque_, great... :) i will ping you (not today) | 15:31 |
| andyrock | thx | 15:31 |
| htorque_ | yw :-) | 15:31 |
| axisys | how do I switch between multiple chrome windwos in unity / | 15:59 |
| axisys | ? | 15:59 |
| and471 | Trevinho, hi | 16:04 |
| seif | hi TLE | 17:26 |
| seif | sorry was napping | 17:26 |
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| neo84 | Hi , I have insalled ubuntu 11.10 and o configure uniy installed compiz, I am not sure what I did, Now luancher is not comming and also I am not able to edit panes | 18:41 |
| cwillu | neo84, panes? | 18:41 |
| neo84 | I mean, where we get start button and all | 18:42 |
| cwillu | does the panel show up? | 18:42 |
| cwillu | (under unity, the scope of editing is currently quite limited) | 18:42 |
| neo84 | yes, but it just have file, bookmark go and places | 18:42 |
| cwillu | ah, okay | 18:42 |
| cwillu | that's nautilus | 18:42 |
| neo84 | I don't get systetm | 18:42 |
| neo84 | from where I can run programs | 18:42 |
| neo84 | any idea how to fix | 18:44 |
| cwillu | I don't know if there's an official/better answer, but if you delete ~/.config/compiz-1 and/or ~/.gconf/apps/compiz-1 and restart, the relevant things should get reconfigured and will work | 18:45 |
| cwillu | (note that the first login after that might take a bit longer) | 18:45 |
| neo84 | ok | 18:45 |
| neo84 | got it | 18:45 |
| neo84 | let me test | 18:45 |
| cwillu | there's a whole whack of bugs in that area, some of which have been fixed, some of which... haven't :p | 18:45 |
| cwillu | speaking of which | 18:45 |
| * cwillu pokes smspillaz with a stick | 18:45 | |
| cwillu | smspillaz, if I say that I'm getting synchronous window moves even with -proposed, are you likely to run away screaming? | 18:47 |
| neo84 | in gconf/apps path i can see comizeonfig instead of copize-1 | 18:47 |
| cwillu | not that one | 18:47 |
| neo84 | should I delete that as wel | 18:47 |
| cwillu | no | 18:47 |
| neo84 | ok | 18:47 |
| neo84 | got it restarting box | 18:48 |
| cwillu | technically, logging out and back in would suffice, or really, even just running "DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace" from a vterm would have sufficed | 18:48 |
| cwillu | but you didn't see that, because you restarted the box I guess :p | 18:48 |
| htorque_ | :D | 18:49 |
| cwillu | bug #874514 | 18:50 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 874514 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Nothing on screen updates other than cursor when moving window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/874514 | 18:50 |
| neo84 | Hi cwillu: that didn't worked | 18:53 |
| cwillu | neo84, you're on the computer right now? | 18:54 |
| cwillu | (i.e., chatting from it?) | 18:54 |
| neo84 | yes, | 18:54 |
| htorque_ | cwillu: hm, after a while my windows start to lag behind the cursor when moving - you think that's connected? (also running -proposed compiz) i first thought that's connected to a similar snap plugin bug, but it happens with that disabled too. :( | 18:54 |
| cwillu | htorque_, sec | 18:55 |
| neo84 | but I logged in gnome session | 18:55 |
| cwillu | oh, not the ubuntu session? | 18:55 |
| cwillu | no idea then, sorry | 18:55 |
| neo84 | no in ubuntu session, I can't do anything. Alt t2 is not working | 18:55 |
| cwillu | alt t2? | 18:55 |
| neo84 | and there's no way to kick terminal or any appliation | 18:56 |
| cwillu | oh, f2 | 18:56 |
| cwillu | neo84, do you know how to log into a vterm? | 18:56 |
| neo84 | no | 18:56 |
| cwillu | ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back to your current session | 18:56 |
| neo84 | ok | 18:56 |
| cwillu | ctrl-alt-f1 will take you to a text-only screen | 18:56 |
| cwillu | where you can log in with your usual username and such | 18:56 |
| cwillu | what I want you to do (write this down, you won't be able to refer to the screen) is: | 18:57 |
| neo84 | ok | 18:57 |
| neo84 | sure pleas go ahead | 18:57 |
| cwillu | (sec) | 18:58 |
| neo84 | sure | 18:58 |
| cwillu | (1) log into a vterm (2: will kill the graphical session) sudo stop lightdm (3) rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/compiz-1 ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.local/share/compiz-1 (4: will take you to the graphical login screen) sudo start lightdm (5) log into the ubuntu session | 18:59 |
| neo84 | vterm is etxt only one , correct | 18:59 |
| cwillu | yes | 19:00 |
| cwillu | (well, technically not really, but anyway :p) | 19:00 |
| neo84 | ok | 19:01 |
| htorque | cwillu: wouldn't "DISPLAY=:0 unity --reset" be simpler? :-) | 19:01 |
| cwillu | htorque, perhaps, although that's failed half a dozen times for me in the last week :p | 19:02 |
| htorque | another thing to check: are users really running unity or are they running unity 2d instead (there were already a couple of invalid bug reports on launchpad). easiest way to check: only unity's panel has a shadow. | 19:04 |
| htorque | like "compiz settings don't work" | 19:04 |
| cwillu | htorque, difficult when neither unity nor unity-2d is actually running :p | 19:05 |
| htorque | true that | 19:06 |
| cwillu | neo84, note, be careful with rm; a typo can easily delete your entire home directory :p | 19:09 |
| cwillu | oh, god damnit | 19:09 |
| htorque | we'll see if we'll see him again :D | 19:09 |
| cwillu | ah well, it's not likely that he'd stick a random space between ~ and / ;p | 19:09 |
| neo84 | cwillu: now when I am loading ubuntu session, it says unable to load ubuntu logou :( | 19:13 |
| cwillu | sorry? | 19:14 |
| cwillu | please give precise messages, with as few typos as possible :p | 19:14 |
| neo84 | sure | 19:14 |
| htorque | i guess that's the dialog when loading a missing session (unity → "ubuntu") | 19:15 |
| neo84 | it says , unable to load Ubuntu and log out button comes | 19:15 |
| neo84 | how to fix it | 19:17 |
| cwillu | neo84, I'm pretty sure you did something more than what I said :p | 19:17 |
| cwillu | either from the gnome session, or when logged in from the terminal :/ | 19:17 |
| htorque | from a command line (ctrl-alt-f1, log in), can you do "apt-cache policy gnome-session" | 19:17 |
| htorque | does it say anything other that "none" behind "Installed:"? | 19:17 |
| htorque | *than | 19:18 |
| neo84 | how to login via gnome session ? | 19:18 |
| htorque | no, from the vterm like you did before (using ctrl-alt-f1) | 19:19 |
| neo84 | ok | 19:19 |
| htorque | then type: apt-cache policy gnome-session | 19:20 |
| htorque | does that say "Installed: 3.2.0-0ubuntu3"? | 19:21 |
| htorque | hm :-/ | 19:22 |
| cwillu | heh: bug #861710 and bug #862162 | 19:22 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 861710 in linux (Ubuntu) "[regression] smspillaz fails to sleep at proper hours, despite solar status" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861710 | 19:22 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 862162 in unity (Ubuntu) "DBO does not go to sleep when I ask him to" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862162 | 19:22 |
| DBO | I should totally mark my bug as fix released | 19:23 |
| DBO | I have been sleeping like a pimp | 19:23 |
| htorque | well deserved ;) | 19:23 |
| cwillu | DBO, I'll take advantage of your unwise revealing of your monitoring of this channel, to ask if you know anything about lazy positioning? | 19:25 |
| DBO | I dont even know what that is | 19:25 |
| DBO | unless you mean in compiz | 19:25 |
| cwillu | yes | 19:25 |
| DBO | then yes | 19:25 |
| DBO | I know all about lazy positioning | 19:26 |
| cwillu | >:) | 19:26 |
| DBO | its lazy | 19:26 |
| DBO | and positions | 19:26 |
| cwillu | DBO, more than you want to? | 19:26 |
| DBO | but only when it feels like it | 19:26 |
| cwillu | ah yes, then you're qualified :) | 19:26 |
| bregma | much like yourself? | 19:26 |
| DBO | bregma, not half as lazy as myself | 19:26 |
| bregma | that's a bug then | 19:26 |
| cwillu | DBO, I got the sense from the patches that landed in -proposed that this should've been mostly fixed there | 19:27 |
| DBO | ever sleep in a chair because getting up for bed was just harder? | 19:27 |
| cwillu | DBO, yes. | 19:27 |
| DBO | cwillu, whats broken exacry? | 19:27 |
| cwillu | I only get synchronous moves, except in a few short-lived cases | 19:28 |
| DBO | cwillu, amd hardware? | 19:29 |
| cwillu | intel | 19:29 |
| cwillu | pineview | 19:29 |
| DBO | intel needs to stop naming their hardware after elementary schools | 19:29 |
| cwillu | and if you say anything about sync to vrefresh, I might strangle you :p | 19:29 |
| cwillu | DBO, it's i915 hardware | 19:30 |
| DBO | cwillu, my guess is god hates you right now | 19:30 |
| DBO | and he is a wrathful god | 19:30 |
| cwillu | DBO, fine, but intel is fine right now :p | 19:30 |
| cwillu | DBO, if the unityshell compiz plugin isn't running, compiz has no problems :) | 19:31 |
| DBO | ahhhh hmmm | 19:31 |
| DBO | thats interesting isn't it | 19:31 |
| cwillu | DBO, somewhat | 19:31 |
| DBO | so its slow dragging windows around? | 19:31 |
| cwillu | yes | 19:31 |
| cwillu | specifically, it doesn't update if the mouse moves more than ~20 pixels per second or so | 19:31 |
| cwillu | (where "it" means "everything but the mouse cursor") | 19:32 |
| cwillu | so if I move windows really really slowly, they move somewhat ok | 19:32 |
| DBO | interesting | 19:32 |
| DBO | you going to be at UDS? | 19:32 |
| cwillu | more interesting: if a window opens up in the middle of the screen (or not touching an edge), it moves fluidly | 19:33 |
| cwillu | until it touches an edge, or I alt-tab to it, or so forth | 19:33 |
| cwillu | DBO, I keep telling myself that I love my job too much to take one that pays enough to allow me to do such things as "go to conferences" :p | 19:33 |
| DBO | mail me your laptop | 19:34 |
| DBO | then I can finally reproduce the problem and fix it :P | 19:34 |
| cwillu | want ssh? :p | 19:34 |
| cwillu | (noteworthy, before -proposed, compiz in a shell gave a swath of that "you should probably report this" bug; now it only gives a couple when the session first starts | 19:35 |
| cwillu | if I had to guess, I'd say that m->mLocked is never being released, although I'm not sure that that's even done the same way in the patches | 19:36 |
| Splief | Hello | 19:38 |
| DBO | cwillu, I have an intel machine being upgraded now | 19:39 |
| DBO | in an effort to reproduce this issue | 19:39 |
| Splief | After I am upgrade to 11.10 I get this error message "Booting system without full network configuration" | 19:40 |
| Splief | 1] move all /var/run -> /run and /var/lock -> /run/lock 2] delete /var/run and /var/lock 3] link /run -> /var/run and /run/lock -> /var/lock 4] delete /run/dbus/* 5] restart | 19:41 |
| DBO | Splief, you probably want to ask in #ubuntu | 19:41 |
| cwillu | DBO, probably worth noting a few things that _didn't_ work: various pokings at intel x driver options, every permutation of relevant workarounds settings, disabling sync to vrefresh in no less than 4 distinct places, tweaking/disabling mouse-polling settings (long shot :p) | 19:42 |
| Splief | yes | 19:42 |
| Splief | I am wrong here? | 19:42 |
| cwillu | DBO, also of note, simply defeating the lock test in the move plugin changed the behaviour, but didn't fix it (obviously :p) | 19:43 |
| DBO | k | 19:44 |
| htorque | Splief: yes. either type '/join #ubuntu' to get into a room with 1700 users or you can also ask your question at askubuntu.com | 19:44 |
| htorque | hmpf | 19:44 |
| cwillu | DBO, hmm, that's interesting: just did compiz --replace in a terminal; at that point, the terminal window was fluidly movable, but simply shifting focus to another window and back restored the clumpy behaviour | 19:46 |
| cwillu | no errors compiz stdout at all | 19:46 |
| cwillu | (actually, there's "/usr/bin/compiz (expo) - Warn: failed to bind image to texture" during the initial loading, that's it) | 19:47 |
| DBO | cwillu, without a local ability to reproduce the issue | 19:47 |
| DBO | I cant possibly fix it | 19:47 |
| cwillu | I will continue to stream useless information at you anyway :p | 19:47 |
| cwillu | otherwise you might get the impression that it's not bugging me anymore :p | 19:47 |
| cwillu | also, given some guidance on how it's supposed to work in the first place, I might be able to fix it myself | 19:48 |
| cwillu | although I still haven't figured out how to go from a bzr checkout to a dpkg-buildpackage'able tree | 19:48 |
| TLE | seif: hey, I've been afk | 20:13 |
| TLE | As I mentioned earlier, I was wondering about what the status is of the people lens work you did a while back | 20:17 |
| axisys | is there a tutorial for newbies ? | 20:18 |
| axisys | not quite comformatble with it .. may be some tutorial will help | 20:19 |
| axisys | comfortable* | 20:19 |
| sense | axisys: Maybe <http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/> can help you getting started? | 20:20 |
| axisys | sense: i remember there was a cheat sheet for unity.. can't find it | 20:21 |
| sense | Neither can I, unfortunately. | 20:21 |
| axisys | i think someone provided it in answers.ubuntu.com or somewhere like tere | 20:21 |
| axisys | back then I decided to swithc to classic.. but this time I like to stick to it for a little longer.. | 20:22 |
| axisys | i mean during natty | 20:22 |
| sense | axisys: Ah, you don't mean development but usage? | 20:23 |
| axisys | sense: right | 20:23 |
| sense | In that case all I can advise is looking further at AskUbuntu. | 20:23 |
| axisys | sense: what is quickly ? next gen unity ? | 20:23 |
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| axisys | http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/2010/09/16/Getting_Started_With_Quickly_Part_1 | 20:24 |
| sense | axisys: Quickly is a (command line) tool for quickly creating a new Ubuntu application and developing it. | 20:24 |
| axisys | sense: :-) | 20:24 |
| axisys | i am in the wrong place then.. | 20:24 |
| axisys | let me check askubuntu | 20:24 |
| sense | ok! | 20:24 |
| sense | axisys: The general support IRC channel is #ubuntu if you have further questions. :) | 20:25 |
| axisys | i wodner if unity made it little slower? | 20:25 |
| axisys | i find natty was faster in response time | 20:25 |
| axisys | i have 8G mem in my laptopr | 20:25 |
| axisys | laptop* | 20:26 |
| axisys | is it possible unity needs *lot* more resource? | 20:26 |
| cwillu | so long as you have enough memory, more memory has little effect on response time | 20:26 |
| cwillu | be more specific on "response time" though | 20:26 |
| axisys | i click on a tab on chrome and I see "new tab" declaration and then the tab gets created .. odd | 20:27 |
| axisys | it is possible that rsync within folders slowing it down | 20:28 |
| axisys | i just started with oneric today.. so I dont have enough data to conclude to my observation | 20:29 |
| sense | I'm not sure. But couldn't it be an issue with Chrome itself? | 20:29 |
| axisys | sense: possible.. i shouldnt jump into any conclusion | 20:29 |
| axisys | let me start virtualbox.. i thought while virtualbox was running it became slow | 20:30 |
| sense | That could explain things. :) But of course you may be right. Oneiric uses more GPU, so it could be that your hardware doesn't cope as well with it as others. | 20:32 |
| axisys | what is the searchbox called ? | 20:32 |
| axisys | searchbox? | 20:32 |
| sense | Dash, I belive :) | 20:33 |
| axisys | when I type vir.. in Dash .. virtualbox icon and some other paper related to virtualbox shows up.. at that time is there a way to pick virtualbox app without using the mouse? | 20:34 |
| axisys | found it.. down arrow picked it | 20:34 |
| sense | axisys: The first entry should be selected by default and can be actived with enter. | 20:36 |
| axisys | oh ok.. nice to know | 20:36 |
| axisys | again.. need a cheat sheet :-) | 20:36 |
| axisys | i guess someone in askubuntu will have the link | 20:37 |
| Trevinho | tedg: did you look at this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/849732/comments/22 ? | 20:59 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 849732 in unity-2d "Control/Alt key bindings are broken in GTK 3 programs using gtkbuilder" [Critical,Triaged] | 20:59 |
| axisys | how do I start another chrome when chrome is running? clicking the launch icon of chrome in dash menu just takes me to the running chrome window | 21:00 |
| axisys | in classic i can click the icon and a new chrome window starts | 21:00 |
| tedg | Trevinho, I read your comments, but I haven't looked into it further. Sounds like you did a good set of investigation. | 21:00 |
| axisys | i tried ctrl+click and no go | 21:00 |
| tedg | Trevinho, I'm guessing it must have a check somewhere for visibility or mapping :-/ | 21:01 |
| Trevinho | mh... I don't know tedg | 21:01 |
| tedg | axisys, I'm not sure what the preferred way is, but I use Super+Shift+Number for the launchers for new windows most of the time. | 21:01 |
| Trevinho | but I was wondering... | 21:01 |
| Trevinho | in the standard menus, when you press an accelerator... Who activates the menu item^ | 21:02 |
| Trevinho | I mean, you activate the old gtk one or the dbusmenuitem? | 21:02 |
| axisys | tedg: all the numbers are taken | 21:02 |
| axisys | tedg: 0-9 are all assigned to other applications.. chrome gets no number | 21:03 |
| tedg | Trevinho, The window gets it and handles it. So no dbusmenu involvement. I'm guessing the hiding of the menu bar broke it. | 21:03 |
| tedg | axisys, Move it? :-) | 21:03 |
| axisys | tedg: heh | 21:03 |
| htorque | axisys: tried middle clicking the launcher? | 21:03 |
| axisys | htorque: let me try that | 21:04 |
| Trevinho | tedg: yes, in fact it's what I saw... The window inherit these settings... So the dbusmenu uses them only to show the right accel on the menu, isn't it? | 21:04 |
| tedg | Trevinho, Correct | 21:04 |
| axisys | htorque: that did it.. thanks | 21:04 |
| tedg | Trevinho, I can't answer any more questions until your ETSA is approved though ;-) | 21:05 |
| htorque | axisys: you're welcome | 21:05 |
| Trevinho | tedg: the site says it's approved... but I think that at the airport will get controlled further way... | 21:05 |
| Trevinho | In my passport picture I really looks like a terrorist... :D | 21:06 |
| Trevinho | by the way also if you're not sure that I'm a trusted man, who won't ever destroy your country, do you think that the fix to do is in the gtk scope, isn't it=? | 21:07 |
| htorque | Trevinho: just a tip - don't make any jokes when talking to the immigration officers :D | 21:10 |
| axisys | would be nice if this is in the topic.. would help tons of newbies like me.. nice cheat sheet | 21:10 |
| axisys | http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts | 21:10 |
| tedg | Trevinho, I believe in code reviews :-) | 21:11 |
| Trevinho | htorque: ok... Sorry... It seems I'm risking too much here... | 21:11 |
| htorque | axisys: #ayatana actually isn't a support channel. the right channel would be #ubuntu, but with 1700+ users i can understand why people visit all other channels. :P | 21:11 |
| tedg | axisys, http://www.quicklycode.com/wallpapers/unity-cheat-sheet-wallpaper | 21:12 |
| axisys | htorque: i got not much help there about unity.. | 21:12 |
| Trevinho | tedg: yes, but I can't really understand what's going there... I mean, a gtkmenubar manually added when hidden should act exactly like a gtkbuilder generated gtkmenubar | 21:12 |
| tedg | Ah, it's linked there. | 21:12 |
| axisys | htorque: i guess with 11.10 just released this chnl will be busy atleast for next 6 months with people like me :-) | 21:13 |
| Trevinho | but here it seems that the gtkmenubar done by gtkbuilder when hidden doesn't allow to activate its child... | 21:13 |
| Trevinho | while the normal one allows that... | 21:13 |
| tedg | Trevinho, Yeah, I had to do a bit of a hack with the mnemonics. Basically breaking on each function I thought should be activated. Guessing it'll be the same process. | 21:13 |
| axisys | tedg: yeah.. that image does not exist anymore to download | 21:14 |
| tedg | axisys, http://i.stack.imgur.com/pf1y5.png | 21:14 |
| axisys | tedg: nice.. I will make it a wallpaper for few months.. thanks! | 21:14 |
| axisys | hmm.. super+D does not work | 21:16 |
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| Trevinho | tedg: I'm there... | 21:21 |
| Trevinho | I found a way to make it working... | 21:22 |
| Trevinho | however tedg how would you see to ignore if menuitem is hidden when asking to activate that by accel when the the ubuntu menubar is used? | 21:25 |
| Trevinho | I'm worried it could cause issues... | 21:25 |
| axisys | anyone knows how to change the login screen? I dont want to show the valid users.. I rather type the username | 21:25 |
| Trevinho | maybe we should track the previously hidden entries... | 21:26 |
| axisys | I rather want to type the username | 21:26 |
| Trevinho | tedg: sorry I was wrong.. .It doesn't depend on visiblity | 21:33 |
| Trevinho | but on the parent visibiltiy check | 21:33 |
| Trevinho | And this is not done generally for menus... | 21:33 |
| tedg | Trevinho, So, you can look at the check that I put into the mnemonic code. Basically I check to see if there is a menuproxy, if it's being used, and if so then I override things. It should be safe in that case. | 21:39 |
| tedg | axisys, I think you need to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf -- though I'm not sure about which greeter you'd want for that. | 21:40 |
| Trevinho | tedg: here the issue is that there are some menu items parents that are really hidden... | 21:41 |
| Trevinho | And the gtk_widget_real_can_activate_accel function check for visility | 21:41 |
| tedg | Trevinho, Sure, but the menubar shouldn't be, no? | 21:41 |
| Trevinho | so what about ignoring the visibility? | 21:41 |
| Trevinho | Yes, but that doesn't check for the menubar | 21:42 |
| Trevinho | in fact, adding some debug code, and running a standard app | 21:42 |
| tedg | Trevinho, Hmm, but the confusing part is why does it then work for normal menubars? | 21:42 |
| Trevinho | I don't get any output | 21:42 |
| tedg | Trevinho, Like non-builder ones. | 21:42 |
| Trevinho | while there's for gtkbuild... | 21:42 |
| Trevinho | tedg: because the normal menubars doesn't use the complex structure that the gtkbuilder seems to use | 21:42 |
| Trevinho | I've not checked how the tree is made, but there are at least three levels behind the standard menubar.... I mean menubar -> file menuitem -> unknown menuitem -> menuitem i want to activate | 21:44 |
| Trevinho | tedg: strange... | 21:51 |
| Trevinho | Looking at the windgets tree it seems that there's a GtkMenuBar, then a GtkMenu and the another GtkMenuBar | 21:51 |
| tedg | Trevinho, Uhm, wow... | 21:52 |
| Trevinho | or... not, sorry maybe I'm wrong | 21:52 |
| Trevinho | just menubar + menu.... | 21:52 |
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