| * Riddell snoozes too | 00:03 | |
| Riddell | oh wow, at least we don't have a topic "Religious and political views in packages" poor old opensuse-factory list | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| * Darkwing sighs | 00:10 | |
| ulysses | Smooth upgrade, except removing my wallpaper and changing back to the defaukt | 00:20 |
| ulysses | I don't use KDE PIM, so I can't tell anything about that, but Kubuntu Oneiric is awesome, as always, good work, thank you | 00:30 |
| ulysses | and good night | 00:30 |
| claydoh | I miss all the action it seems :/ I need a different non-time-consuming job | 01:06 |
| Darkwing | hehehe | 01:09 |
| Darkwing | claydoh: At least you *have* a job. | 01:09 |
| claydoh | want one? i am hiring burger flippers :) | 01:11 |
| Darkwing | hehehe | 01:12 |
| Darkwing | In san diego? | 01:12 |
| claydoh | no | 01:13 |
| Darkwing | Bugger | 01:13 |
| claydoh | 7.50 an hour :) | 01:14 |
| claydoh | may not be worth it | 01:15 |
| claydoh | may not be worth it | 01:15 |
| claydoh | ok laggy | 01:15 |
| Darkwing | :) | 01:16 |
| Darkwing | Yeah.... I'm getting more in my unemployment at the moment... :P:P | 01:16 |
| claydoh | yeah | 01:16 |
| claydoh | hrmpf | 01:17 |
| claydoh | my wife sure didn't, but that was 6 or so years back | 01:17 |
| maco | Darkwing: do you know c and/or perl and have an interest in moving to maryland? | 01:19 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, ping | 01:24 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: drunk pong | 02:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kubuntu-mobile or something | 02:32 |
| apachelogger | ah | 02:34 |
| apachelogger | mailing list is depressing | 02:34 |
| apachelogger | awesome | 02:34 |
| * apachelogger actually mentioned his concerns for reliablity of pim 4.7 plenty of times before we switched :S | 02:36 | |
| apachelogger | even did so at UDS :( | 02:36 |
| apachelogger | no one ever listens to me | 02:37 |
| * apachelogger also doesn't really stand up for his opinions :( | 02:37 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: btw, we got the regular amd64 with efi installed successfully | 02:50 |
| apachelogger | but using rEFIt as boot manager | 02:51 |
| apachelogger | works very wel | 02:51 |
| apachelogger | l | 02:51 |
| apachelogger | Following the release of Ubuntu 11.10, Canonical has just announced that its KDE based Ubuntu OS, Kubuntu, has also reached version 11.10. | 03:00 |
| apachelogger | good job canonical \o/ | 03:00 |
| markey | congrats on the release, guys :) | 03:09 |
| markey | very cool | 03:09 |
| markey | will upgrade soon | 03:09 |
| Daskreech | apachelogger: ping | 04:47 |
| Daskreech | http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour says openoffice.org | 04:47 |
| Daskreech | Something that we should know? | 04:47 |
| Darkwing | Daskreech: Thanks for the deads up. | 06:23 |
| Darkwing | s/deads/heads/ | 06:24 |
| kubotu | Darkwing meant: "Daskreech: Thanks for the heads up." | 06:24 |
| Daskreech | kubotu: Darkwing wishing me a deads up wasn't very reasuuring | 06:58 |
| yofel | Daskreech: I would say that nobody has updated that feature-tour in quite a while, that should be libreoffice (for post-lucid) | 07:01 |
| Daskreech | Yep | 07:01 |
| Daskreech | good morning yofel | 07:01 |
| yofel | hm, or post-maverick, not sure anymore | 07:02 |
| yofel | good morning :) | 07:02 |
| Daskreech | :) | 07:03 |
| Darkwing | Hey yofel | 07:14 |
| Darkwing | YES! My brother rocks. | 07:15 |
| Darkwing | the complete antholigy of Deadmau5. | 07:15 |
| Darkwing | XD | 07:15 |
| yofel | hey, and by again - bbl | 07:16 |
| yofel | *bye | 07:16 |
| * Riddell puts Markus on moderation in kubuntu-devel | 09:31 | |
| ulysses | Anyone seen this message about Nepomuk disabled? http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/nepomukdisabled.png | 09:35 |
| ulysses | 333 | 09:37 |
| ulysses | meh, cat walked throug the keyboard | 09:37 |
| Riddell | only when I manually kill nepomuk | 09:44 |
| ulysses | I upgraded today to Oneiric, it appears on every login | 09:44 |
| afiestas | sorry for the rant yesterday, won't happen again | 10:09 |
| afiestas | I'm going to develop a plugin for KMail that, if it detects harsh words + the time is around 2AM prevents me to send anything anywhere | 10:10 |
| Riddell | afiestas: :) | 10:18 |
| Riddell | gosh, first comment on slashdot Ubuntu release thread is "I moved to Kubuntu (Score 4: Insightful) about 3 releases ago, and I've never looked back." | 10:18 |
| jussi | afiestas: I have one patch for you to develop as pennance | 10:24 |
| jussi | afiestas: you can make a choice when setting up email to choose "gmail style account" for those that use google accounts on their own domain name (like me with jussi01.com). | 10:26 |
| GirlyGirl | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades/Kubuntu typo "Upgrade to 11.04 with an alternate CD:" should be 11.10 | 10:40 |
| Riddell | fixed | 10:40 |
| GirlyGirl | Lots of kmail2 complaints in #kubuntu btw apparently they don't read the release notes and try migration | 10:42 |
| Riddell | hmm, I can believe that | 10:44 |
| jussi | the migration failed here :/ | 10:52 |
| afiestas | btw, the only thing we can do about this at this stage, is to help upstream the most we can | 11:05 |
| afiestas | KMail has a new mantainer now, it didn't a few weeks ago | 11:05 |
| jussi | afiestas: +++ | 11:17 |
| jussi | afiestas: thats what I pretty much said in my mail there (which seemed to get lost amongst the noise) | 11:17 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, ping | 12:03 |
| rbelem | :-D | 12:03 |
| rbelem | afiestas, \o/ | 12:03 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: yes? | 12:03 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, a talked to rsalveti yesterday | 12:04 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, he said the he cant give us an arm ppa, but he can upload ours packages to his arm ppa and send back the binaries | 12:05 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, and he said that kubuntu-mobile images can be host by linaro | 12:06 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, he asked me to generate the images using live-build | 12:07 |
| apachelogger | hmmm | 12:07 |
| rbelem | :-) | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: that actually seems like a good enough solution | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | with we can copy the entire package from his ppa to ours | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | including the binaries | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | so management effort is rather low | 12:10 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, he said that he cant give us a ppa because the farm is small and some builds may damage the hardware | 12:12 |
| apachelogger | yeah, the usual reason | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | but I think building elsewhere and then copying to our PPA is good enough | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | plus we have our own farm for random testbuilds anyway | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | which reminds me .... NCommander: any progress on getting those machines upgrade? | 12:14 |
| * rbelem hopes linaro guys manage to get arm cross toolchain ready to use soon | 12:16 | |
| apachelogger | debfx: I believe your change to kds broke plasma netbook now | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | or the sal containment at large | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | because it has a 'tab' for contacts | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | which is in fact using the runner | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | fortunately enough turning off the runner will not cause visual indiciation in the feature | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | so it will just appear to not be working | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | FWIW though ... last I tried it did not work to begin with | 12:53 |
| debfx | apachelogger: we don't even install those krunner plugins by default so how can disabling them cause problems? | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | we don't? | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | ah, it is an entire pile of bugs then | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | cool | 13:05 |
| * apachelogger trusts debfx to take care of this and prepares for some hacker party | 13:06 | |
| debfx | no, they are in plasma-runners-addons | 13:07 |
| debfx | apachelogger: I have never used the netbook interface so no idea what's going on there | 13:15 |
| afiestas | rbelem: is docummented anywhere what configuration is needed in order to have samba share working properly? | 14:04 |
| rbelem | afiestas, not yet | 14:05 |
| rbelem | afiestas, did you manage to get is sharing properly? | 14:06 |
| afiestas | rbelem: nope | 14:38 |
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| yofel | uh... can someone with the -proposed archive enabled try to disable it in software-properties-kde? | 15:40 |
| yofel | doesn't work for me in oneiric | 15:40 |
| yofel | more like, when I uncheck a checkbox on the 'Updates' tab, as soon as I move the mouse away it gets checked again O.O | 15:43 |
| debfx | yofel: same here for all checkboxes under "Kubuntu updates" | 15:45 |
| yofel | bug 819793 | 15:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 819793 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Can't uncheck proposed or usupported boxes in Kubuntu updates sorftware sources" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819793 | 15:48 |
| GirlyGirl | yofel: same here | 15:49 |
| yofel | bug 826539 is for the gtk one, but only for backports | 15:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 826539 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "can't uncheck unsupported updates in regular ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/826539 | 15:49 |
| yofel | bug 791491 | 15:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 791491 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Cannot uncheck "Unsupported updates" checkbox in KPackageKit" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791491 | 15:50 |
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| Quintasan | Goddamn | 16:12 |
| Quintasan | yofel, debfx: Can you try adding a new entry using kmenuedit? | 16:12 |
| yofel | Quintasan: where? | 16:13 |
| Quintasan | yofel: in Kickoff obviously | 16:13 |
| * Quintasan tried adding World of Goo to Games today | 16:13 | |
| Quintasan | but when I clicked on Save it started processing and then disappeard | 16:13 |
| Quintasan | The progress bar when saving | 16:14 |
| yofel | Quintasan: worked for me (adding a custom entry for s-p-k under lost and found) | 16:16 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 16:16 |
| * yofel is trying to understand software-properties code | 16:17 | |
| yofel | pyth0rn | 16:17 |
| apachelogger | jockey is weirdly defunct | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | there is also some rubbish about appindicator3 and whatnot | 16:53 |
| yofel | ok | 16:56 |
| yofel | now this was utterly confusing and suprisingly easy to fix... | 16:56 |
| Quintasan | lol | 17:01 |
| Quintasan | precise is already open | 17:01 |
| debfx | there are still a lot of 4.7.2 packages that need uploading to oneiric-proposed | 17:05 |
| debfx | (remember to reference bug #872506 in the changelog) | 17:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 872506 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Oneiric) "SRU tracking bug for KDE 4.7.2" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872506 | 17:08 |
| CIA-130 | [software-properties] Philip Muškovac * 724 * softwareproperties/kde/SoftwarePropertiesKDE.py Fix KDE UI not being able to disable update repositories | 17:14 |
| yofel | now I need to get a hold of mvo... | 17:18 |
| * Quintasan updates the wiki | 17:26 | |
| * Quintasan grabs libkdeedu | 17:29 | |
| Quintasan | libkdeedu uploaded | 17:31 |
| * Quintasan grabs libkexiv2 | 17:56 | |
| CIA-130 | [libkdeedu] Michal Zajac * 15 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506) | 17:58 |
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| debfx | meh, archive.u.c is painfully slow | 18:01 |
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| CIA-130 | [libkexiv2] Michal Zajac * 23 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506) | 18:04 |
| Quintasan | I wonder where is Scott | 18:05 |
| debfx | Quintasan: he is taking a break from ubuntu development, see ubuntu-devel list | 18:07 |
| Quintasan | Ah | 18:09 |
| Quintasan | I see | 18:09 |
| yofel | debfx: how did you decide if it's worth to backport? unpack both packages and run diff -ruN ? | 18:28 |
| yofel | *worth to SRU | 18:28 |
| debfx | yofel: I grabbed the diffs from the ninjas ppa | 18:28 |
| yofel | ah | 18:28 |
| yofel | good idea | 18:29 |
| * yofel grabs rocs | 18:41 | |
| CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/rocs] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506) | 18:54 |
| c2tarun | can anyone please tell me how to load a project in QtCreator? (I have the source code of the project) | 18:59 |
| bambee | evening | 19:23 |
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| CIA-130 | [software-properties] Philip Muškovac * 725 * softwareproperties/kde/SoftwarePropertiesKDE.py throw the now unused loop out | 20:28 |
| valorie | late saying it, but awesome effort, team | 21:31 |
| valorie | and great product | 21:31 |
| valorie | I can't wait to upgrade this laptop, but my netbook is doing great on 11.10 | 21:31 |
| valorie | upgrading two days before flying to Cali with it doesn't seem smart though | 21:32 |
| Riddell | valorie: you're not late saying it, you have another 5 months and 29 days to keep saying it | 21:36 |
| valorie | heh | 21:36 |
| valorie | it felt good to contribute a bit more to this release | 21:37 |
| valorie | hope to increase that in Precise | 21:37 |
| valorie | it will be good to have you back at the helm, Riddell | 21:37 |
| Riddell | aww, thanks :) | 21:45 |
| Riddell | are you coming to UDS valorie? | 21:45 |
| valorie | nope -- heading to Google this week | 21:46 |
| Riddell | oh? mentors summit? | 21:46 |
| valorie | there simply isn't enough time between the two events | 21:46 |
| valorie | sadly | 21:46 |
| valorie | Doc Camp and then Mentor's Summit | 21:46 |
| Riddell | what's Doc Camp? | 21:46 |
| valorie | I expect to be wrung out by the end of the week | 21:46 |
| valorie | shadeslayer and two other guys are coming from India | 21:47 |
| valorie | and we're going to write a book about how to get involved in developing KDE | 21:47 |
| valorie | fortunately they know the facts | 21:47 |
| Riddell | a book? like a full novel? | 21:47 |
| valorie | I'll be there to edit, etc. | 21:48 |
| BarkingFish | Well at least I got back... Is it possible to upgrade from 04 to 10 without using an over the net install? I had hell with mine yesterday. | 21:48 |
| BarkingFish | I only got back on the net about 2 or 3 hours ago | 21:48 |
| Riddell | BarkingFish: you can try using the alternate CD | 21:48 |
| valorie | this will be published on teh ....fossdocs? website | 21:48 |
| BarkingFish | Riddell, yesterday bought me within 10 minutes of calling the samaritans. I was practically on the edge of doing something unpleasant. | 21:48 |
| valorie | #kde-doc-camp is where we are hanging out if you are interested in adding to the work | 21:49 |
| Riddell | (best not to joke about that sort of thing BarkingFish, it can be hard to tell if it's a joke on IRC) | 21:49 |
| BarkingFish | I upgraded and got to within 20 files of finishing, and my system hung like saddam. I couldn't move, no VT access, zip. I forced a poweroff & reboot, and was left with an empty PC and 220GB of lost data | 21:50 |
| valorie | oh, question on the alternate CD | 21:50 |
| BarkingFish | Riddell, I am utterly serious. I am not by any means joking. | 21:50 |
| valorie | the only one I find listed is the alternate-Mac one | 21:50 |
| valorie | lost data!? | 21:50 |
| valorie | horrible | 21:51 |
| maco | um thats some very graphic imagery | 21:51 |
| BarkingFish | This machine is my access to my only one true thing I enjoy, and I was so furious at everything going feet up last night, I almost did a number on myself | 21:51 |
| valorie | I had an upgrade like that a long time ago | 21:51 |
| valorie | it left me feeling damn bad | 21:51 |
| Riddell | BarkingFish: it won't have lost your /home folder | 21:52 |
| BarkingFish | Riddell, it lost everything. | 21:52 |
| BarkingFish | I mean the whole lot. Docs, downloads, pictures, music, my lp setup, bzr, the whole enchilada from top to bottom, all 220.65GB | 21:52 |
| BarkingFish | all the sources for the stuff I worked on too | 21:53 |
| Riddell | BarkingFish: on an upgrade? there's nothing that would corrupt a disk or format a disk there unless the disk had a hardware fault | 21:53 |
| BarkingFish | The disk is fine. It's barely 3 months old and has only had kubuntu on it. | 21:54 |
| BarkingFish | In all seriousness, that was just about the most disappointing experience I've had with a system upgrade in almost 11 years of linux. | 21:55 |
| Riddell | BarkingFish: so did you boot a live image and mount the filesystem? | 21:56 |
| * valorie sends {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to BarkingFish | 21:56 | |
| BarkingFish | Riddell, yes. | 21:57 |
| BarkingFish | I have 11.04 on a Pendrive | 21:57 |
| Riddell | BarkingFish: hmm, btrfs? | 21:58 |
| BarkingFish | awhositwhatnow? | 21:58 |
| * BarkingFish looks bemused | 21:58 | |
| maco | BarkingFish: what filesystem is the disk? | 21:58 |
| BarkingFish | the Pendrive or the one I lost? | 21:58 |
| maco | i think he means the kaboom one | 21:59 |
| BarkingFish | ext4 | 21:59 |
| BarkingFish | with a very small 2.2GB as swap | 21:59 |
| Riddell | so it was a different system as the one in bug 873411 ? | 22:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 873411 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Unable to upgrade to 11.10 using kpackagekit" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873411 | 22:00 |
| BarkingFish | no | 22:01 |
| BarkingFish | it was the same one | 22:01 |
| Riddell | well that bug was due to btrfs | 22:02 |
| BarkingFish | i don't know what btrfs is, could you expand please? | 22:03 |
| BarkingFish | That was filed before the death of my kit last night | 22:03 |
| Riddell | it's a filesystem | 22:06 |
| Riddell | it's not our default so it's probably not well tested | 22:06 |
| BarkingFish | well if you look at the fstab I posted, you'll see my primary disk was ext4 | 22:06 |
| BarkingFish | and the only other disk in my machine was ntfs | 22:07 |
| BarkingFish | sda1 was ext4, as was sda6, and sda5 was swap - sdb1, my workhorse disk, was ntfs | 22:08 |
| Riddell | hum | 22:13 |
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| Riddell | ok it's something to do with the programme apt-btrfs-snapshot | 22:13 |
| Riddell | but it's getting beyond my ken | 22:14 |
| Riddell | BarkingFish: data loss is very nasty though as you'll be aware so you should report the problem on that bug (or another one if you think it's unrelated) | 22:14 |
| Riddell | on update-manager | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | BarkingFish: I'm pretty much sure you'd be able to recover much data from the partition if you umount it and not write to it and try extundelete | 22:16 |
| Quintasan | BarkingFish: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ | 22:16 |
| Quintasan | BarkingFish: I think we have a package for that in repo as well | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | !info extundelete | 22:17 |
| ubottu | extundelete (source: extundelete): utility to recover deleted files from ext3/ext4 partition. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.0-1 (oneiric), package size 52 kB, installed size 168 kB | 22:17 |
| debfx | apachelogger: do you have an idea how we could switch to xz compression of binary packages since lp requires a pre-depends on dpkg (>= ...)? | 23:03 |
| debfx | we'd have to somehow convince dpkg-gencontrol to add that automatically | 23:04 |
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