[00:04] <coraxx> has anybody been able to get Oneiric to work on on Asus UX50 ... or at least with the nVidia G105m graphics adapter ?
[00:13] <bjsnider> coraxx, interesting hardware
[00:13] <bjsnider> is it hybrid graphics?
[00:14] <coraxx> bjsnider: yes...how did you know ...did you look up the Asus UX50 ?
[00:14] <bjsnider> no
[00:14] <bjsnider> gpu switching isn't supported
[00:14] <bjsnider> so you need to pick one or the other
[00:15] <bjsnider> there might be a switch in the bios for that
[00:15] <coraxx> bjsnider: meaning ? ...I pick nVidia of course....not the embedded Intel-card
[00:16] <coraxx> bjsnider: I thought so too...but there was no such option in the bios
[00:16] <bjsnider> if it's not working i'd say the intel chip is being used
[00:17] <bjsnider> so you should remove the nvidia driver and xorg.conf and just try it where xorg/kernel can pick the right driver
[00:17] <coraxx> bjsnider: I have now "blacklisted" the i915 (intel driver), so I'm sure it no longer interferes
[00:17] <bjsnider> blacklisting the driver doesn't mean the nvidia chip will be used
[00:17] <bjsnider> it means the intel chip is being used but you've stopped xorg from using the driver it needs
[00:18] <bjsnider> the only way to get the nvidia chip working is in the bios
[00:18] <bjsnider> and not all of them have the switch
[00:18] <coraxx> bjsnider: It pick the right one ...and I can even get the nvidia software to create an xorg.conf file for me ...however the nvidia driver in itself will not work ...(but it loads which is weird)
[00:19] <coraxx> bjsnider: yeah...that was what I was affraid of.
[00:19] <bjsnider> if you say so
[00:19] <intangir> heheh so is this a pangolin channel now?
[00:19] <intangir> do i have to upgrade already?!
[00:20] <bjsnider> linux is probably years away from supporting hybrid graphics
[00:20] <coraxx> bjsnider: thanx for your time ... It always good to bounce ideas with others :-) tc
[00:20] <intangir> hybrid graphics? what does that mean?
[00:20] <intangir> internal combustion engine graphics cards?
[00:20] <bjsnider> dynamically switching from one gpu to another
[00:20] <intangir> oh damn my idea sounds more awesome
[00:21] <bjsnider> switching from a gpu on cpu to a descrete chip when extra graphics horsepower is required
[00:22] <intangir> you mean for both system and graphics, like regular system processor using gpu for stuff too?
[00:23] <intangir> like tons of math operations automatically using ALU or whatever they are called
[00:23] <intangir> anyway im doing a diskcheck
[00:23] <intangir> its taking forever.....
[00:23] <intangir> im on a 2nd computer
[00:23] <intangir> cause mine is only at 39% after 10 minutes
[00:24] <intangir> this one is running mint linux ;)
[00:25] <intangir> well im gonna let my son use it, bbl
[01:26] <Johnny_Giggles> Where can I discuss release 12.10?
[01:26] <Johnny_Giggles> (just kidding)
[02:06] <FernandoMiguel> Johnny_Giggles: here. any future release is here!
[02:07] <Johnny_Giggles> Okay then.
[02:07] <Johnny_Giggles> Seriously though, 12.04 is going to be a big release
[02:07] <Johnny_Giggles> LTS
[02:13] <FernandoMiguel> and there I go: ubuntu+1 : upgrading to precise
[02:13] <FernandoMiguel> Current status: 35 updates [+35], 55341 new [+53290].
[02:14] <FernandoMiguel> chain is done
[02:15] <FernandoMiguel> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/
[02:16] <FernandoMiguel> WOOT
[02:16] <FernandoMiguel> apt-listchanges works again!!!
[02:26] <crash1hd> Is there a way to loginto ubuntu classic still?
[02:30] <Azelphur> crash1hd: there's a classic style'd gnome 3, but that's it
[02:31] <Johnny_Giggles> oh is 11.10 using gnome 3?
[02:31] <Johnny_Giggles> or 2?
[02:31] <Azelphur> gnome 3
[02:31] <Johnny_Giggles> ok good
[02:31] <Johnny_Giggles> I'm happier with GNOME 3
[02:32] <crash1hd> Is Gnome 3 unity?
[02:32] <Azelphur> I should be more correct with what I'm saying, Ubuntu 11.10 is GTK3
[02:32] <Azelphur> Gnome 3 is an optional extra :P
[02:33] <crash1hd> I am very new to all this
[02:33] <crash1hd> what I am trying to figure out is, well is there a way to get the 10.10 desktop
[02:33] <Azelphur> no
[02:33] <crash1hd> with 11.04 you could just log in with ubuntu classic
[02:33] <crash1hd> oh
[02:33] <crash1hd> :(
[02:34] <crash1hd> Dont get me wrong I am liking some of the new features
[02:34] <Azelphur> crash1hd: it's kinda a bad idea to aim for that too, gnome is working on gnome 3 now, gnome 2 is unsupported
[02:34] <crash1hd> but it seems harder to find anything
[02:34] <Azelphur> *shrug* it usually is harder to find things when your using something new
[02:34] <crash1hd> yes
[02:34] <crash1hd> lol and being fairly new to ubuntu to begin with that doesnt help
[02:34] <crash1hd> lol
[02:34] <Azelphur> hehe
[02:35] <crash1hd> so I was hoping to have a way of backup so if I really get frustrated I could log out and back in
[02:35] <Azelphur> crash1hd: you know there's a search box, top left right?
[02:35] <crash1hd> mind you I mostly only use my ubuntu for deluge and ssh vnc
[02:35] <Azelphur> you can just find anything you used to use xD
[02:35] <crash1hd> yes but if you dont know what its called
[02:35] <crash1hd> thats sometimes half the battle
[02:35] <crash1hd> it took me a while to get used to 11.04
[02:36] <Azelphur> indeed, true
[02:36] <crash1hd> seems that 11.10 they have streamlined a lot of it :) which is good
[02:36] <crash1hd> it did fix all of my issues thought :)
[02:36] <Azelphur> yea, the new unity does look quite nice although I didn't spend too long looking at it
[02:37] <crash1hd> But I do have an issue with using 11.10 on my new system from the LiveUSB (If I am not using a lcd monitor it doesnt load?)
[02:37] <crash1hd> any idea why
[02:37] <crash1hd> I have a newer mobo asus F1A75-V pro which has a built in APU
[02:38] <crash1hd> So basically when I use my old crt monitor connecting via vga it gets to the point where its going to go to the desktop and then the monitor shuts off like its out of sync?
[02:38] <crash1hd> but if I use my lcd monitor it is fine
[02:38] <crash1hd> after installing ubuntu 11.10 and installing the AMD drivers I am able to use the CRT monitor just fine
[02:39] <Azelphur> It's possible Ubuntu's detecting the wrong resolution for it or something
[02:39] <Azelphur> Yea, perhaps a bug in the open driver
[02:39] <crash1hd> OK is there a way of changing the resolution on bootup?
[02:39] <crash1hd> So that I can customize my thumbdrive for future useage
[02:40] <crash1hd> I mean I can always leave a sticky note on my machine reminding myself that if I want to boot from LiveCD that I need the other monitor
[02:40] <crash1hd> but since I use LiveCD alot to fix things
[02:40] <Azelphur> do you have persistent storage on your USB drive?
[02:40] <crash1hd> its kinda annoying
[02:40] <crash1hd> I think so
[02:40] <crash1hd> is there a way I can check?
[02:40] <Azelphur> then you can just install the AMD drivers on it
[02:40] <Azelphur> and fix it the same way you did on your PC
[02:40] <Azelphur> :P
[02:41] <Azelphur> if you have persistent storage, it'll keep your changes after you reboot
[02:41] <crash1hd> oh so boot once using the lcd install the amd driver and I am good
[02:41] <Azelphur> yep :)
[02:41] <crash1hd> Cool :)
[02:42] <crash1hd> Is there a way to do it with the CD version? or would I have to make an image of my usb and then burn it to CD?
[02:43] <Azelphur> you'd have to roll your own LiveCD, there again who uses CDs any more? XD
[02:43] <Azelphur> I took the DVD drive out of my PC like 6 months ago
[02:43] <Azelphur> waste of power xD
[02:43] <aj11u10> For the first time in a long time my headphones work :) Thanks to all the hard work everyone put in!
[02:44] <crash1hd> lol I just purchased a dvd rom drive so that I can rip dvd's borrowed from the library lol
[02:44] <crash1hd> of kids shows that seem to be hard to find on tpb and isohunt
[02:45] <crash1hd> well its funny 10.10 was very stable then I upgraded to 11.04 and my dvd rom drive would lock up the system and when I hit reboot it would hang
[02:45] <crash1hd> upgraded to 11.10 and the reboot works (have not tried the dvd rom drive yet) I did find a solution for that in 11.04 though
[02:45] <crash1hd> I moved it from one sata port to another
[02:46] <crash1hd> as the system I have has 6+1 and logic would have had the +1 be the cdrom so I did
[02:46] <crash1hd> until I found it was locking up the system
[02:46] <crash1hd> changed it so that the main boot drive was the +1 and its fine now
[02:46] <crash1hd> all of them being ahci
[02:47] <Azelphur> :)
[02:48] <crash1hd> I am going to do a shutdown and switch the drives back and boot up to see if the lock up still happens lol :) just curious now
[02:48] <crash1hd> but I do love the idea about creating a custom thumbdrive :)
[02:50] <Azelphur> crash1hd: btw there are other GUI options if you really don't get along with Unity, XUbuntu, LUbuntu and Kubuntu are all fun :)
[02:50] <Azelphur> I run XUbuntu on my PC, and Ubuntu on my laptops
[02:51] <crash1hd> OK going to have to google them to see what they look like :) Kubuntu is kde is it not?
[02:51] <Azelphur> yep
[02:53] <crash1hd> why are there so many flavors or is that like a question of asking why are there so many flavors of ice cream?
[02:53] <crash1hd> what is XUbuntu and Lubuntu?
[02:53] <Azelphur> pretty much
[02:53] <crash1hd> k :)
[02:53] <Azelphur> one size fits all does not work, and it never will :)
[02:53] <Azelphur> Xubuntu is XFCE, and Lubuntu is LXDE
[02:53] <crash1hd> Ok Why do you like XUbuntu then?
[02:54] <Azelphur> My PC is quad screen, unity tends to fall over and die on it
[02:54] <crash1hd> ahh
[02:55] <crash1hd> :) what would you suggest for a kids machine?
[02:55] <Azelphur> crash1hd: Ubuntu probably, it looks pretty and it's quite simple with big icons which make it easy to click
[02:55] <Azelphur> how old a kid?
[02:55] <crash1hd> 5
[02:56] <crash1hd> I am going to install some type of virtual machine and then another version of ubuntu on top of it
[02:56] <crash1hd> so that I can have more control
[02:56] <crash1hd> :)
[02:57] <Azelphur> yea, Ubuntu sounds fun for that :)
[02:57] <crash1hd> I was thinking of using Qimo ontop
[02:57] <Azelphur> or maybe Edebuntu
[02:57] <Azelphur> or rather, Edubuntu o.O
[02:58] <Azelphur> yea I think edubuntu would be my favorite for a kid, it has lots of stuff bundled in and is geared for the task :P
[02:58] <crash1hd> :)
[02:58] <crash1hd> what would you suggest for virtual machine software?
[02:59] <Azelphur> virtualbox
[02:59] <crash1hd> ok I come from windows so I was originally thinking vmware
[02:59] <Azelphur> I've never got along with vmware, I like virtualbox :)
[02:59] <Azelphur> it's very simple and just goes.
[03:01] <sandra> Evening my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[03:01] <sandra> I trust all of you are doing well .
[03:01] <crash1hd> Cool I like that :)
[03:01] <sandra> oh oh this isn't the support channel for Oneiric is it ?
[03:02] <Azelphur> sandra: not as of a few hours ago :P
[03:03] <sandra> Azelphur, So I see , that will teach yours truly to run around in here w/out my reading glasses lol
[03:03] <Azelphur> hehe
[03:05] <crash1hd> Now the real challange will be moving my user profile from 10.10 to 11.10 lol as I did a new install on a different drive gonna see how it takes it later :)
[03:06] <crash1hd> after I get the thumb drive thing working :)
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[03:09] <intangir> how do i update to release from the 11.10 beta
[03:10] <crash1hd> Azelphur, have you plaid with EFI at all?
[03:10] <Azelphur> nope
[03:10] <crash1hd> intangir, it should be waiting for you in the update manager
[03:10] <pangolin> !final
[03:10] <ubottu> If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.
[03:10] <crash1hd> Azelphur, ok thanks :) just trying to figure it out :)
[03:11] <crash1hd> Azelphur, It seems to need a fat16 partition at the beginning of the drive to boot
[03:11] <Azelphur> :)
[03:12] <crash1hd> And it puts things into your bios :(
[03:14] <crash1hd> Luckly I had 2 machines exactly Identical so I was able to reset my bios from the other machine as I had not made a backup
[03:15] <crash1hd> Azelphur, thanks for all the help :)
[03:15] <Azelphur> yw
[03:17] <crash1hd> Unfortunatly it looks like it still locks up on optical drive media insertting when the optical drive is plugged into the +1
[03:18] <crash1hd> realizing now that I have not actually tested it the other way on 11.10 will now be testing it :)
[03:22] <crash1hd> Ahh it works :) I see it no longer puts an icon on the desktop though
[03:31] <mhall119> crash1hd: Qimo is great for 5 year olds
[03:31] <chintan> hiii there]
[03:32] <chintan> need little information
[03:32] <chintan> anyone there for little talk ?
[03:58] <intangir> is there a way to still get a window bar? i really miss the window/task bar thing?
[04:05] <crash1hd> mhall119, thanks :)
[04:20] <em> was there a new release?
[05:14] <intangir> i updated yesterday
[05:14] <intangir> now that ubuntu is released i look for new updates, there are none, does that mean im already running the release? even though i got it the day before?
[05:22] <physicaljazz> hi intangir, you can run update-manager -d
[05:23] <physicaljazz> if no new version shows up, you should be on newest release
[05:57] <Angelo> Hi!
[05:57] <Angelo> :-)
[06:39] <mekwall> do I have to do anything to update from beta to stable or will that be done automagically when I run dist-upgrade?
[06:39] <GTRsdk> mekwall: it should be done automagically
[06:58] <mekwall> GTRsdk: great, thanks :)
[06:59] <mekwall> How's the Nouveau driver working these days? Using the proprietary driver (current-updates) but its performing really bad in Unity.
[07:05] <yofel> nvidia-current(-updates) works well for me in KDE, nouveau works fine at least for the desktop env. but opengl performance is too slow for me
[07:06] <mekwall> yofel: it's my workstation so don't really use any opengl apps
[07:13] <mekwall> Hmm, repeating of key when held down stops working for me. I have to open keyboard settings and re-tick that setting for it to start working again. Any solution to this?
[07:13] <mekwall> or perhaps what could be the cause to it?
[08:15] <xannen> 11.10 Networking issue: no network after upgrade.  and no network on live cd boot either.  network/internet was all fine before update.   and other network comp have no issues with connection or internet.  please help.
[08:41] <artzra> help
[08:41] <artzra> how see if i m login in or not login ??
[08:42] <bazhang> artzra, with what
[08:42] <bazhang> artzra, in 11.10 ?
[08:43] <artzra> i have install 11.10 and there is a wacom install  !!
[08:44] <bazhang> artzra, #ubuntu for 11.10 support not here
[08:44] <artzra> ???
[08:45] <bazhang> artzra, this is not the correct channel for 11.10  -----> #ubuntu
[08:45] <artzra> here for what ??
[08:45] <hifi> are pangolin repos up yet?
[08:45] <hifi> oh, no, toolchain is not scheduled yet
[08:45] <artzra> so that the channel for what ??
[08:46] <bazhang> artzra, support for ubuntu  11.10 and the other supported versions in #ubuntu
[08:46] <artzra> im not 11.10
[08:46] <bazhang> artzra, /join #ubuntu for 11.10 support
[08:47] <bazhang> artzra, what version then
[08:47] <artzra> all version !!
[08:47] <artzra> im testing all version
[08:47] <artzra> alpha beta,
[08:47] <bazhang> artzra, this is not the correct channel.  #ubuntu for support .
[08:47] <hifi> you are late for alpha/beta testing
[08:48] <bazhang> that's an extreme understatement
[08:48] <artzra> i try to mix
[08:48] <Ian_Corne> all versions of ubuntu currently available are covered by #ubuntu
[08:48] <hifi> bazhang: me?
[08:48] <bazhang> hifi, yep :)
[08:49] <hifi> how can you alpha test pangolin if the toolchain is not uploaded yet? :p
[08:49] <bazhang> artzra, 12.04 is not released. there is nothing here.  #ubuntu
[08:49] <artzra> so what the theme here ??
[08:49] <bazhang> :/
[08:55] <artzra> very nice and cool gating to is channel "" bravo""
[08:55] <artzra> ironic
[08:56] <hifi> you accidentally what?
[08:58] <artzra> its a nice start, !!
[08:58] <Ian_Corne> yes, !!
[08:58] <artzra> so can i  have some information about 12.04
[08:58] <bazhang> artzra, read the topic
[08:59] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule     <---------------- artzra
[08:59] <dupondje> 2 weeks left :p
[08:59] <dupondje> and we can start playing again
[08:59] <dupondje> whoohoo
[09:00] <artzra> i have read "Welcome"
[09:00] <bazhang> artzra, read the LINK I just gave you
[09:01] <artzra> its open, and what
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[09:48] <farciarz84> hi, is this changell still for ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04?
[10:05] <s1> should be for 12.04 now, see the Topic.
[10:17] <iceroot> 12.04 will be with wayland? or is this unclear until now?
[10:18] <Ian_Corne> unclear
[10:18] <Ian_Corne> it was initially aimed at 12.04 but I think it's been moved to 12.10 at least
[10:22] <th_> it for sure won't be in 12.04
[10:25] <iceroot> sounds good for an lts release not to make such a big change
[10:25] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: fyi: 3.1rc9 seems to fix the kernel-panic-problem. working fine here for 2 days
[10:31] <Ian_Corne> aha nice
[10:31] <Ian_Corne> I guess the fix will be backported to 3.0
[10:56] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:01] <Ian_Corne> already gone :(
[11:11] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: first of all we have to find the fix
[11:11] <iceroot> Ian_Corne: but i will test until sunday with 3.1rc9
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[14:47] <asdkkjlkja> is oneiric still here?
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[14:49] <rork> asdkkjlkja: no, this is now for precise pangolin, you can talk about oneiric in the main channels
[17:48] <famgod> is there a way I can stop using pulseaudio and use alsa?
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[18:49] <em> what do we know about the latest release.
[18:49] <pangolin> what do you mean?
[18:49] <GTRsdk> em: Oneiric or Precise?
[18:55] <Tixos> guys, i know topics changed
[18:55] <Tixos> but can i get some help as ubuntus getting mass flooded by noobs
[18:56] <pangolin> Tixos: no. #ubuntu is the support channel this channel is for 12.04 and you have been banned in #ubuntu.
[18:56] <FernandoMiguel> I was talking with charlie on Google plus, and I remembered I don't have any #ubuntu+1 circle.
[18:56] <FernandoMiguel> who in here is on Plus? send me a message and ill circle you :D
[18:56] <FernandoMiguel> http://l.FernandoMiguel.net/Plus
[18:56] <Tixos> pangolin: the reason was pathetic
[18:56] <pangolin> no it wasn't
[18:56] <FernandoMiguel> at least we now have a proper name for a release that I can speak
[18:56] <FernandoMiguel> LOL
[18:56] <pangolin> you can join #ubuntu-ops to discuss it
[18:58] <Tixos> yes it was
[18:58] <pangolin> you can join #ubuntu-ops to discuss it
[18:58] <Tixos> flog ubuntu ....
[18:58] <Tixos> you can read my mind now
[18:58] <Tixos> ok
[18:58] <Tixos> give up
[18:58] <Tixos> enjoy your evening
[18:58] <pangolin> yes, I am a mind reader.
[18:59] <FernandoMiguel> :(
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[21:09] <Tixos> to everyone telling me gnome3 is fine with all drivers etc, thats BS
[21:09] <Tixos> http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99
[21:09] <ubottu> ati.cchtml.com bug 99 in OpenGL Driver "Graphical corruption with gnome-shell" [Major,New]
[21:09] <Tixos> well done bot,
[21:09] <Tixos> should have made that clear before
[21:10] <Tixos> btw in all your versions there is still the bug with 'error no video mode activated' with fully encrypted filesystems
[21:30] <intangir> my menu isnt poping out, what do they call it? dash menu?
[21:30] <intangir> it wont come out
[21:30] <intangir> even if i click it, or hold start button
[21:40] <Tixos> welcome to unity
[22:03] <famgod> tixos, 11.9 catalyst fixes the graphical corruption on the top bar in gnome3
[22:05] <Tixos> until AMD sort other issues wth their drivers
[22:05] <Tixos> i have other apps that are more important that gnome to me
[22:13] <zniavre> !notunity
[22:13] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions drowpdown. Using Natty? See !classic
[22:16] <Tixos> crap
[22:16] <Tixos> sudo apt-get install tint2
[22:16] <Tixos> fix for unity
[22:35] <olmari> well... I know this isn't totally exact place to ask7inquiry about the issue, but I don't know any better place either...
[22:35] <olmari> it seems that 11.10 uses something like "ip addr add" when one specifies ethX:1 interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:35] <olmari> okay by itself but the problem is that one doesn't see it on ifcofig
[22:36] <olmari> *ifconfig
[22:36] <olmari> I'd like the alias IP to be shown there... no matter does it show on like before "as another interface" or as additional IP on the ethX
[22:39] <olmari> as in if nowhere else, in next ubuntu then :)
[23:03] <magn3ts> Goto your ubuntu desktop in Unity.
[23:03] <magn3ts> Hit CTRL+T.
[23:03] <magn3ts> Watch the fail.
[23:06] <famgod> that screws up gnome3 / gnome-shell / gnome-panel
[23:06] <famgod> as well
[23:10] <magn3ts> Of course it does.
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[23:11] <magn3ts> I would pour gasoline on my computer and ignite it if I thought it would rid the world of nautilus.
[23:18] <urlin2u> magn3ts, try it maybe it will. :D
[23:59] <necreo> nautilus keeps segfaulting on me
[23:59] <necreo> I even did a clean install thinking that would fix it
[23:59] <necreo> it doesnt, keeps segfaulting at random
[23:59] <bazhang> necreo, in what version of ubuntu
[23:59] <necreo> 11.10, ah yes, probably ask in #ubuntu now?
[23:59] <Stanley00> necreo: Oneiric is supported on #ubuntu now,