| GrueMaster | brandini: Yes. Multiple trees. http://kernel.ubuntu.com | 00:00 |
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| brandini | phew, why couldn't I find that | 00:01 |
| brandini | GrueMaster: I'm still looking for the assembly code you guys wrote to initialized the panda :) | 00:07 |
| GrueMaster | I believe TI keeps it in the mach-omap2 stuff under arch/arm. Not sure. | 00:09 |
| GrueMaster | Or plat-omap. | 00:09 |
| brandini | they release source for that? | 00:10 |
| GrueMaster | If you clone the ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git tree, there should be a branch in it for ti-omap4 (iirc). | 00:13 |
| brandini | thank you :) | 00:13 |
| GrueMaster | It is a separate branch though, not the main trunk. | 00:14 |
| GrueMaster | Looks like ubuntu-3.0.0-1205.10 (according to git web). | 00:16 |
| twb | lilstevie: ping | 03:39 |
| twb | lilstevie: nag re send me known-good u-boot.bin | 03:39 |
| twb | lilstevie: poke poke | 08:21 |
| CodeWar | whats a good hardware to test ubuntu-arm on ? preferrably a SMP one | 08:21 |
| CodeWar | Tegra part of the supported list? | 08:22 |
| twb | CodeWar: efikamx should be good, they seem to actually be contributing to debian | 08:22 |
| twb | tegra is more like "if the moon is waxing and you're standing on one leg, it works OK...ish" | 08:23 |
| infinity | We don't have installers for efika systems right now (and they're not SMP). | 08:24 |
| infinity | If you want SMP, a Toshiba AC100 netbook or a TI PandaBoard are your best bets. | 08:24 |
| twb | infinity: oh, sorry | 08:24 |
| twb | AC100s are about the same as TF101s, aren't they? i.e. sucky? | 08:24 |
| infinity | Mine works great. | 08:24 |
| twb | OK | 08:25 |
| infinity | Outperforms the Panda by no small margin, if it had a US keyboard layout, I'd actually use it as my primary netbook. | 08:25 |
| infinity | But the Uk keyboard makes me want to kick puppies. :P | 08:25 |
| twb | stupid enter key? | 08:25 |
| infinity | Stupid everything. Keyboard layouts are a religious thing. :) | 08:26 |
| CodeWar | AC101 dual core A9 .. decent enough let me look it up | 08:26 |
| twb | Well you can remap it if it's just the caps | 08:26 |
| infinity | CodeWar: It's a Tegra2. | 08:26 |
| infinity | twb: Yeah, remapping it fails a bit because you end up with a teeny-tiny \| key, due to the enter key eating most of its neighbours. | 08:27 |
| twb | yeah OK | 08:27 |
| infinity | Om now now. | 08:27 |
| infinity | nom nom too. | 08:27 |
| twb | That's one of my biggest hates on keyboards, that big enter key | 08:27 |
| CodeWar | Asus Transformer 2 .. is that expected to work :-) | 08:27 |
| twb | I mean half the time I type ^M anyway | 08:28 |
| CodeWar | would be best | 08:28 |
| infinity | CodeWar: There have been some people fiddling with the TF2. It has no official support, but I know you can make it work with enough effort. | 08:28 |
| twb | CodeWar: I have a TF101 (Eee Pad Transformer 32G); currently it only works with crappy old 2.6.36 | 08:28 |
| infinity | CodeWar: Panda or AC100 work out of the box, which is appealing if you just want to get to hacking. | 08:28 |
| twb | When lilstevie comes back from the pub or his girlfriend's or whatever and helps me, I might make some more progress :P | 08:28 |
| CodeWar | thanks guys .. still trying to wrap my head around these various models .. | 08:29 |
| diwic | infinity, I was a little surprised when I read the release notes, AC100 and IMX.53 (I think?) was listed, but not the Pandaboard. | 08:29 |
| infinity | (And most devices that ship with Android can just be abused to boot Ubuntu with an Android kernel, but the user experience there will vary, depending) | 08:30 |
| twb | That's cheating | 08:30 |
| twb | it doesn't count | 08:30 |
| infinity | diwic: AC100 and i.MX53 were listed as new, omap3 and omap4 were already supported. | 08:30 |
| diwic | infinity, ok, that explains it, thanks | 08:30 |
| soren | You know what would be awesome? If someone sold a complete get-started-on-hacking-Ubuntu-on-ARM kits at UDS. Pandaboard, power supply, SD card with Ubuntu pre-installed, USB-serial dongle, whatever else one might need. | 08:31 |
| twb | sheevaplug used to ship with ubuntu pre-installed | 08:31 |
| infinity | soren: To be fair, that's more or less what you get if you order a Freescale i.MX53. They ship with an SD with Ubuntu. Though, I need to find someone at Freescale to talk to about refreshing their image to use a saner kernel. | 08:32 |
| twb | But IMO the goal should be a pure blend | 08:32 |
| infinity | It would be nice if TI did the same thing with the Panda package, though. | 08:32 |
| infinity | Not that it's rocket science to download an image and make it go, but the user experince is fairly shiny when it "just works" without having to read. | 08:32 |
| soren | infinity: Looking at the i.MX53 now. Glancing at the specs, it looks somewhat less beefy. | 08:34 |
| infinity | soren: Well, it's a single-core A8, which is less cool than a Panda or AC100, but for people doing a lot of building, the on-baord SATA more than makes up for it. | 08:34 |
| soren | infinity: Oh, shiny. I didn't notice that. | 08:35 |
| infinity | soren: Building most things on A8/A9 systems is almost entirely I/O bound, not CPU. | 08:35 |
| twb | infinity: what, you don't use iSCSI pointing at the SAN for everything ? ;-) | 08:35 |
| soren | infinity: Ok. Well, let me rephrase then.. | 08:35 |
| soren | You know what would be awesome? If someone sold a complete get-started-on-hacking-Ubuntu-on-ARM kits at UDS. Freescale i.MX53, power supply, SD card with Ubuntu pre-installed, USB-serial dongle, whatever else one might need. | 08:35 |
| infinity | twb: It doesn't matter how cool my networking tech is, you can't get past the part where Pandas have a 100bit ethernet adapter hanging off a USB 2.0 bus. :P | 08:36 |
| soren | 100bit? Holy crap. | 08:36 |
| infinity | Mbit. | 08:36 |
| infinity | Typing is hard. | 08:36 |
| soren | Oh. Those. | 08:36 |
| infinity | It feels like 100bit. | 08:36 |
| twb | that's the uart :P | 08:36 |
| infinity | (To be clear, I have no issues with the Panda's architecture, it's a dev board meant to be a giant cell phone, and it works great for what it's meant to do... It's just a lousy desktop or build server due to USB being your limiting factor for any storage) | 08:37 |
| soren | At least for me, having to buy unknown hardware and bits and pieces just to even get started has put me off for a looong time. Now I've actually bought a pandaboard, but still haven't gotten it to work. | 08:38 |
| infinity | soren: Flash oneiric image to SD, insert, boot. | 08:38 |
| soren | Done that. | 08:38 |
| infinity | soren: It's pretty straightforward these days. | 08:38 |
| soren | Doesn't work. It just lights up very briefly, then turns off. | 08:38 |
| soren | No clue why. | 08:38 |
| infinity | That sounds unpleasant. | 08:38 |
| infinity | The turning off bit. | 08:38 |
| infinity | They don't do that. | 08:38 |
| soren | I RMA'ed the board (not just for this reason), but the new one does the same. | 08:39 |
| infinity | Oh, actually, it might do that if it fails to find anything interesting on the SD, I don't recall. | 08:39 |
| soren | What the heck. I'll give it another go. | 08:39 |
| infinity | Wiggle the card, rewrite it moar bettar, use a different one? | 08:39 |
| soren | Where' the current "Idiot's guide to Ubuntu on Pandaboard"? | 08:40 |
| soren | I've tried two different card. | 08:40 |
| infinity | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP | 08:40 |
| soren | Same micro-SD-regular-SD converter, though. | 08:40 |
| infinity | Oh, I've had serious issues with micro->regular->Panda, though I'd always assumed it was just my own cards and adapters being shit. | 08:41 |
| infinity | (Which it probably is) | 08:41 |
| soren | Maybe I should see if I could find a regular SD card somewhere. | 08:41 |
| soren | ...or just try a different adapter. | 08:41 |
| infinity | But yeah. SD/MMC is about the worst choice for installatoin media ever, but we have no options. | 08:41 |
| soren | HAdn't thought of that. | 08:41 |
| twb | infinity: ferrite core | 08:42 |
| infinity | If I recall, the Panda will just appear to "do notihng" if you light it up and it sees nothing of interest in the SD slot. | 08:42 |
| soren | infinity: Well, if no SD card is in, it stays on. | 08:42 |
| soren | When my SD card is in, it shuts off. | 08:42 |
| infinity | Well, nothing of interest, after looking. | 08:42 |
| infinity | It's a bit fiddly in those first few miliseconds. :P | 08:42 |
| infinity | After that, it's great! | 08:42 |
| soren | I guess it could be the power supply. | 08:44 |
| soren | It says it goes up to 2.5A. | 08:45 |
| twb | Or dirty power that is pissing it off because it's a switching-mode PSU and thus sensitive to problems in the wave | 08:47 |
| twb | We went through three soekris net5501 PSUs here before we gave up | 08:47 |
| soren | infinity: The for the PAndaboard I want to use the OMAP4 image, right? | 08:49 |
| infinity | soren: Yup. | 08:50 |
| * soren downloads | 08:51 | |
| soren | Oops, accidentally grabbed the natty image. Will that work ok? | 08:54 |
| infinity | It will, but why start out-of-date? | 08:54 |
| infinity | Especially if you're using SD. Upgrading is SLOW. :P | 08:54 |
| soren | I just want to see that damn thing work. | 08:56 |
| soren | Also, the oneiric image seems to be more than 3 times bigger. Writing out the natty image takes long enough. | 08:56 |
| soren | Holy crap! It stayed on! | 09:03 |
| infinity | Magic. | 09:03 |
| * soren headdesks | 09:04 | |
| soren | It's been that adapter all along, then! | 09:04 |
| soren | And the one I'm using now is identical. *sigh* | 09:06 |
| ogra_ | lool, poke | 09:12 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 09:17 |
| ogra_ | infinity, do you happen to know where the new flash-kernel lives in debian atm ? did it migrate to unstable or is it still in experimental ? | 09:17 |
| ogra_ | (i would like to file a sync request ahead of time so we have it immediately after opening) | 09:18 |
| infinity | ogra_: Not sure. I'd assume either experimental, in some VCS somewhere, or on lool's hard drive. | 09:18 |
| ogra_ | i suspect we will run into a pile of issues | 09:18 |
| ogra_ | so the sooner we get it the better | 09:18 |
| infinity | ogra_: I'm not positive that lool thinks it's ready for prime-time, but I haven't talked to him about it for a couple of months. | 09:18 |
| ogra_ | i know its ready for the arches we support but might handle things different than we do for these | 09:19 |
| infinity | ogra_: Given that this is an LTS coming up, I'm not sure I'm inclined to switch. | 09:19 |
| ogra_ | i know its not ready for "old" arches | 09:19 |
| infinity | ogra_: Dealing with the bugs we know seems saner. | 09:19 |
| ogra_ | which we dont care about | 09:19 |
| ogra_ | and i know its used by default in armhf in debian | 09:19 |
| ogra_ | but thats not in any official repo | 09:20 |
| infinity | Almost. | 09:20 |
| infinity | But is it? They don't have installation media. | 09:20 |
| ogra_ | infinity, well, you had a spec to actually use its database for HW stuff iirc | 09:20 |
| ogra_ | and i would like to get rid of the crap ahead of the LTS | 09:20 |
| ogra_ | else we need to carry the hackish version for 5 years | 09:21 |
| infinity | http://ports.debian.net/debian/pool-armhf/main/f/flash-kernel/ | 09:21 |
| soren | What does "hf" stand for, btw? | 09:21 |
| ogra_ | right, i dont think we can sync from there | 09:21 |
| diwic | hard float | 09:21 |
| ogra_ | soren, hard float | 09:21 |
| soren | Ah. | 09:21 |
| diwic | ogra_, does the official oneiric image for AC100 have working sound? | 09:22 |
| infinity | ogra_: Eh. I don't mind carrying it for 5 years. Once it's set up, it works. It's not like it's a maintenance burden. | 09:22 |
| ogra_ | diwic, btw, doi you remember who waas chiming in when we talked about 5.1 recievers ? i owe him a beer :) | 09:22 |
| infinity | diwic: It does if you use headphones. | 09:22 |
| ogra_ | diwic, only with a kernel update thats not in an SRU yet and with some alsamixer adjustments | 09:22 |
| ogra_ | and it breaks after resume from suspend | 09:23 |
| ogra_ | but all these issues should be fixable and will make it into SRUs | 09:23 |
| infinity | ogra_: The problem with that spec is that it assumes some debian-cd violence and other things. Which I'm happy to do, but I feel like it would be a waste of timein a cycle where we should be focussing on stabilising existing software, not introducing new stuff. | 09:23 |
| diwic | ogra_, sorry, don't remember the 5.1 receiver stuff? | 09:23 |
| ogra_ | infinity, well, for me thats not so much introducing new stuff but getting rid of the horrid hacks | 09:24 |
| infinity | ogra_: I really do want to implement that spec and get the new hw DB idea working right, but this just feels like the wrong time. I dunno. We'll argue about it in Orlando. ;) | 09:24 |
| ogra_ | diwic, yeah, its started with me asking you about spectrum analyzer software | 09:24 |
| diwic | right | 09:24 |
| ogra_ | he chimed in and recommended me to rather get a denon ... | 09:24 |
| ogra_ | after 3 weeks of bitter ear pain with the new yamaha i returned it on monday ... now i have a denon, no more earpain, waaaay better sound :) | 09:25 |
| * soren pats his Denon receiver in his desk | 09:25 | |
| ogra_ | and i got it reaaaaly cheap because they felt pity for giving me something that produces ear pain :) | 09:26 |
| ogra_ | (like a 500€ discount *g*) | 09:26 |
| soren | Wow. | 09:26 |
| ogra_ | soren, for the SACD player i bought i got a 1000€ discout because the box was missing ....500 isnt that much ;) | 09:27 |
| soren | If you can get a €1000 it must have been rather pricey to begin with. | 09:28 |
| lilstevie | ogra_: is there anything major different between the AC100 image and the omap builds? | 09:28 |
| soren | I think mine cost €1000 total. | 09:28 |
| soren | 11 years ago. | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | lilstevie, look at ac100-tarball-installer source, that has all the specialities ... beyond that indeed it has its own kernel and bootloader setup | 09:29 |
| lilstevie | ok :) | 09:29 |
| ogra_ | soren, yeah, my old system costed me 600, including cup sized speakers etc ... i thought its time for an upgrade and invested 5000 | 09:30 |
| lilstevie | ogra_: was mainly wondering for basing my transformer stuff from one of them | 09:30 |
| ogra_ | lilstevie, feel free, but you might need some adjustments | 09:30 |
| lilstevie | well I do have a different bootloader setup | 09:31 |
| ogra_ | right, and a different kernel | 09:31 |
| lilstevie | yeah | 09:31 |
| lool | ogra_, infinity: New f-k is in experimental and in git | 09:54 |
| lool | there are more changes to be done, but I guess it's already better than what we have | 09:54 |
| ogra_ | lool, do you think its suitable for an LTS ? | 09:54 |
| ogra_ | yeah, thats what i think too | 09:54 |
| lool | it doesn't support SD card right now | 09:54 |
| ogra_ | and i dont want to sit on what we have for 5 years | 09:55 |
| ogra_ | argh, seriously ? | 09:55 |
| lool | well, it doesn't have any OMAP mechanism; you could point it at /boot though | 09:55 |
| lool | I don't think much OMAP support made it to Debian | 09:55 |
| ogra_ | does it have omap4 ? | 09:56 |
| ogra_ | shouldnt be to hard to derive from there | 09:56 |
| lool | that included lack of OMAP4 | 09:56 |
| ogra_ | bah, k | 09:56 |
| brandini | morning all | 10:29 |
| brandini | is com0 at 0x49020000 on the panda? | 10:31 |
| FunkyPenguin | aloha, does ubuntu build from a single source or do you have a separate one for arm vs x86? | 10:38 |
| FunkyPenguin | wondering if i look for a package in packages.ubuntu.com does that cover arm? | 10:38 |
| ogra_ | most of the time, yes | 10:46 |
| ogra_ | all packages use the same source, packages.u.c wont tell you if the binary exists though | 10:46 |
| ogra_ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ has a list of all failed builds | 10:47 |
| FunkyPenguin | ogra_: great, thanks | 10:48 |
| ogra_ | you can also look on launchpad.net/ubuntu/ | 10:49 |
| soren | What's the rationale behind that /var/lib/preinstalled-pool thing in Oneiric? | 11:38 |
| soren | What's worse is that the very first package I installed from there has a checksum mismatch :( | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | that shouldnt happen, infinity ^^^ | 11:44 |
| soren | The python-setuptools package I have in there is all NULLs. | 11:44 |
| ogra_ | its what we ship as pool on the x86 server isos and should support installs without network | 11:44 |
| * soren checks the image | 11:44 | |
| ogra_ | right, compare your md5 | 11:45 |
| soren | Image checksum matches. | 11:46 |
| ogra_ | hmpf | 11:46 |
| infinity | Yeah, but does it match once you've written it to SD? | 11:46 |
| soren | That's what I'm about to find out. | 11:47 |
| soren | WEll... Sort of. | 11:47 |
| infinity | I can write an image out in a sec and have a look. | 11:47 |
| infinity | Where "in a sec" is "sometime this afternoon". | 11:47 |
| soren | I'll mount the image on my laptop and see if the problem exists there, too. Otherwise, it probably got screwed up when I wrote it to the SD. | 11:47 |
| soren | Nope, it's fine if I mount it on my laptop. | 11:49 |
| soren | Weird. | 11:49 |
| soren | No idea where it got scrwed up, then. | 11:49 |
| ogra_ | hmm, porobably a kernel issue then... mmc driver or filesystem driver issue | 11:49 |
| soren | Most of the files in there seem fine. | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | on your laptop... | 11:51 |
| soren | Just 9 of them have this problem. | 11:51 |
| soren | No no, on the SD card. | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | if inserted in your laptop or in the panda ? | 11:51 |
| soren | Panda | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | ah | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | bad SD ? | 11:52 |
| ogra_ | i.e. some borked blocks that shouldnt have been written to ? | 11:52 |
| soren | No idea. It's brandh new. Just unwrapped it a couple of hours ago. | 11:52 |
| soren | dmesg is silent. | 11:53 |
| soren | (on this subject, I mean) | 11:53 |
| soren | Plenty of other stuff in dmesg. | 11:53 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 11:55 |
| infinity | I could rant about SD/MMC quality again, but I seem to do that often enough. | 12:03 |
| infinity | While I think it's cool that we provide an SD grow-root installation method (and, indeeed, that's the simplest way for people to test their hardware and get started), I still think the goal should be to encourage people to get their system on reliable external storage ASAP. | 12:04 |
| infinity | And just use the SD for uBoot. | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | or support boards with nand booting only :P | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | we just need to convince vendors to put more money in :) | 12:06 |
| infinity | ogra_: I don't mind treating the SD slot as a hardwires flash/firmware area. At the end of the day, the behaviour is the same. | 12:07 |
| infinity | ogra_: And that's what we do when we netboot, for instance. | 12:07 |
| infinity | It's also how my i.MX53 and Panda both run when they're at home. | 12:07 |
| infinity | s/hardwires/hardwired/ | 12:07 |
| ogra_ | infinity, right, thats also what we did on babbage ... though there we had the prob that we had to install to the livefs media while running from it | 12:08 |
| xranby | wow... i got opengl-es to work on my pandaboard using oneiric and using the default package sources.. i simply installed every omap4 package and then it turned ON | 12:21 |
| xranby | i was expecting to get the packages from the ti ppa.. but they where already in main | 12:22 |
| infinity | *raise brow* | 12:22 |
| xranby | infinity: want a screenshot? | 12:22 |
| infinity | There's no way that's hardware accelerated if it involves nothing from TI. | 12:22 |
| xranby | infinity: http://openjdk.gudinna.com/lwjgl-es/pandaboard-LWJGL.png | 12:26 |
| xranby | running at 130fps | 12:26 |
| infinity | xranby: 130fps sounds like software rendering to me. | 12:28 |
| xranby | infinity: libEGL comes from the SGX omap 4 package | 12:29 |
| xranby | infinity: this are usning java -> opengl-es bindings | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | infinity, es2gears in SW rendering on the ac100 gets me 20-30 frames | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | i think its about 180 if accelerated | 12:31 |
| infinity | xranby: I can't find this package you're referring to. | 12:34 |
| xranby | infinity: let me try generate a list of installed packages | 12:34 |
| infinity | xranby: dpkg -S /path/to/file | 12:34 |
| xranby | are the some way to list the packages that got installed today? | 12:34 |
| twb | Would that be the "benchmark" that has a --i-acknowledge-this-is-not-a-benchmark option? | 12:34 |
| xranby | infinity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707964/ perhaps i got them from the ppa after all | 12:39 |
| ogra_ | twb, i think that was dropped again at some piunt :) | 12:40 |
| ogra_ | *point | 12:40 |
| infinity | xranby: "apt-cache policy packagename" will tell you where it comes from. | 12:40 |
| infinity | xranby: But yes, those aren't in the archive. | 12:40 |
| ogra_ | well, we definitely dont ahve ubuntu-omap4-extra in any official archive | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | and you have the sw-center added ppa .list | 12:41 |
| xranby | infinity: ok i can now confirm that they did come from the ppa | 12:42 |
| xranby | thanks ti | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | :) | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | send flowers to ndec and his team :) | 12:42 |
| xranby | ndec: cheers! | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | (or probably better bottles of old wine) | 12:42 |
| twb | ogra_: well that's bloody stupid | 12:43 |
| xranby | ndec: i have lwjgl java bindings working on the pandabord using your latest oneiric drivers.. | 12:43 |
| xranby | nice | 12:43 |
| ndec | yes, gfx libs have been in PPA for a while now. video decoders are coming soon... | 12:52 |
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| xranby | ndec: ok meanwhile i have filed a bug against the LWJGL upstream to add support for all your drivers extensions http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,4237.0.html | 13:02 |
| xranby | ndec: when i install teh libEGL and friens all .so ends with .so.1 are this intentional? | 13:04 |
| xranby | the opengl-es userspace applications are looking for the libEGL.so symlinks and fails to find the library | 13:05 |
| * ndec thought we had fixed that. | 13:06 | |
| ndec | xranby: yes, this is true the .so is only in the -dev package (e.g. libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev) | 13:13 |
| ndec | to me it's more a bug in the applications, ... but we've seen that in the past, and since we cannot change all applications, we need to update our package. | 13:14 |
| ndec | for now, you just need to install the -dev | 13:14 |
| xranby | ok thank you for checking | 13:14 |
| infinity | There's a longstanding history of bainry GL apps looking for .so instead of the actual library. :/ | 13:14 |
| infinity | But we don't ship .so in any library package, for sanity reasons. | 13:15 |
| infinity | binary* | 13:15 |
| xranby | hmm i wonder why.. the brainy GL apps simply try to link againt EGL | 13:16 |
| xranby | 'to get into this state | 13:16 |
| xranby | -lEGL are passed tot he linker | 13:17 |
| xranby | and it makes the linker pick to use the .so | 13:17 |
| infinity | xranby: Err, wait. | 13:17 |
| infinity | xranby: You need the -dev (and the .so) to link... | 13:18 |
| infinity | But it should then link to .so.1 | 13:18 |
| xranby | usually you can have EGL mesa installed to build it | 13:18 |
| xranby | so the app links against the mesa EGL -dev package | 13:19 |
| xranby | libegl1-mesa-dev - free implementation of the EGL API -- development files | 13:19 |
| infinity | I'm still not sure what your bug is here... | 13:20 |
| infinity | You need dev packages installed to compile. | 13:20 |
| infinity | But not to run. | 13:20 |
| infinity | If "ldd mybinary" shows that you've linked to an unversioned .so, that's certainly a bug (ie: if you need it at runtime). | 13:21 |
| ndec | we used to have wrong SONAME in our libs, but this is fixed. objdump -p /usr/lib/libEGL.so | grep SONAME will tell you libEGL.so.1 (and it used to be the .so). the soname is what the app will link against. | 13:23 |
| ndec | perhaps the mesa-dev package has wrong soname? | 13:23 |
| infinity | ndec: Almost certainly not. :P | 13:23 |
| infinity | (If it did, nothing on my system would work) | 13:24 |
| ndec | xranby: is your app dynamically linked against the .so, or do you have a dlopen to the .so . i think firefox does (did?) that | 13:24 |
| xranby | let me check | 13:25 |
| xranby | ldd at points to /usr/lib/libEGL.so i guess that makes it dynamically link | 13:32 |
| * xranby are rebooting his board... for some reason the usb mouse/keyboard refused to enumerate | 13:33 | |
| brandini | morning dudes | 13:39 |
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| _Thomas | Does anyone here work with the ubuntu release for the Linaro Origen-board? | 15:43 |
| _Thomas | (I'm wondering if anyone knows the status of getting HW opengl on that board) | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | _Thomas, as i said in the other channel, ubuntu-arm doesnt support the origen board | 15:44 |
| _Thomas | ok | 15:46 |
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| stephen__ | pandaboard: linaro image vs ti-omap ppa | 19:07 |
| stephen__ | which is better? | 19:07 |
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| brandini | so when I have the load address in uboot, is that looking for KERNEL_BASE_PHYS=0x80300000? | 22:59 |
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