[07:14] <cousin_luigi> hello
[07:18] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[07:45] <hsingh> hello I want to volunteer for ubuntu and fix bugs. Any one willing to mentor me?
[07:49] <hsingh> no one :(
[08:19] <brendand> hsingh - it might be a bit early for most of the mentors
[08:21] <hsingh> brendand, some one to guide me if I get stuck or at least help me get started
[08:22] <brendand> hsingh - i know. i just mean you might want to check back later in the day
[08:22] <brendand> hsingh - and everyone's here to guide you if you get stuck
[08:22] <brendand> hsingh - what are you interested in doing?
[08:23] <hsingh> brendand, bug squad
[08:24] <brendand> hsingh - and you read the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[08:25] <hsingh> brendand, yes
[08:25] <brendand> hsingh - any questions?
[08:26] <hsingh> brendand, for most of the bug reports I can't understand where to start looking and how to use the detail logs provided
[08:27] <brendand> hsingh - that's always the hardest part. but you can still help in several ways.
[08:28] <hsingh> brendand, how?
[08:28] <brendand> hsingh - step 1, the bug needs to be confirmed, or marked incomplete. try seeing if the same bug happens for you
[08:28] <brendand> hsingh - if it doesn't then you need to decide if the reporter has given you enough info to try and reproduce it
[08:29] <brendand> hsingh - at least they should be saying which version of ubuntu and the package they are using
[08:32] <hsingh> brendand, okay. but my main motive is to learn and write code :)
[08:43] <brendand> hsingh - bugsquad is not really meant directly for coding. there are other avenues for that, but it would depend on your coding experience
[08:44] <hsingh> brendand, like?
[08:45] <brendand> hsingh - you mean which avenues?
[08:46] <hsingh> brendand, yes
[08:47] <brendand> hsingh - unity bitesize bugs is a good way to get involved. also papercuts
[08:48] <brendand> hsingh - it depends on what your coding skills are and what you're interested in
[10:37] <ali1234> bug 967923
[10:37] <ubot4> ali1234: Error: Bug #967923 not found.
[10:37] <ali1234> bug 867923
[10:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 867923 in gedit (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gedit refuses to save file when backup cannot be created. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/867923
[10:38] <ali1234> i got an automated message on this bug telling me i should have used ubuntu-bug. but i did use it. problem?
[10:41] <pedro_> ali1234, none, seems the wrong stock response was used and its not an automated message
[10:41] <pedro_> ali1234, thanks for the reporter btw :-)
[10:41] <pedro_> s/reporter/report
[10:41] <pedro_> we'll take care of it
[11:17] <alourie> hello
[11:17] <alourie> I want to report a bug, but not sure where to
[11:17] <alourie> a little help?
[11:18] <iceroot> alourie: to launchpad
[11:18] <iceroot> !bug | alourie
[11:18] <ubot4> alourie: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[11:19] <alourie> iceroot: well, I know about the launchpad, I'm just not sure whether it's Ubuntu specific or not
[11:23] <alourie> ah, well, I'll report it to Ubuntu, and we'll see how it goes
[11:25] <iceroot> alourie: maybe post the bug after you created it here
[11:26] <alourie> iceroot: no, can't do. The bug is in Empathy, and those are kept on gnome, so I'll open it there anyway...
[12:12] <ali1234> pedro_: thanks, i would have upstreamed it myself if you asked :)
[12:13] <alourie> iceroot: bug #874133
[12:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 874133 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Empathy can't connect to gtalk after reboot (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/874133
[12:32] <lbndev> Good afternoon
[12:35] <lbndev> Is any of you working on the apache2 package ?
[12:49] <lbndev> I filed a bug in early august, regarding an issue fixed upstream, for which the patch isn't applied in Ubuntu.
[12:49] <lbndev> I've been able to get the patch from upstream, apt-get source the ubuntu package, patch it, rebuild it, and confirm that with this patch my problem (sigsegv) goes away
[12:50] <lbndev> I attached the patch to the bug. A few days after , it has been triaged
[12:50] <lbndev> And since then, ... that's pretty much it.
[12:51] <lbndev> I would need someone with commit access to build a patched version and publish it to Ubuntu repositories (so that I don't have to rebuild the package every time it changes in the repos)
[12:52] <lbndev> I tried contacting Canonical by e-mail (from the web site), and the only developer currently assigned to one of the apache2 bugs open in launchpad, without getting an answer.
[12:52] <lbndev> Don't get me grong, I understand everybody's time is precious. This is not a complain, just a search for solution
[12:53] <lbndev> (BTW I offered to pay for the time a committer would agree to spend applying the patch)
[12:55] <lbndev> If anyone has an idea on how I can contact someone who will spend a little time looking at my issue and finding an agreement on fixing it, that would be very much appreciated
[12:55] <lbndev> The issue is launchpad bug #821077
[12:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 821077 in apache2 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Apache2 segfault with SSLProxyMachineCertificateFile (upstream patch not applied in ubuntu) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/821077
[12:55] <lbndev> Thank you
[13:12] <emorris> Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but what's the procedure for proposed bugs to be released?
[13:37] <yofel> emorris: you mean bugs that have fixes in the -proposed archive?
[13:38] <emorris> yofel, yeah
[13:38] <yofel> emorris: those need to go through the SRU verification process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Verification, once they're verified an a week has passed they go to -updates
[13:39] <yofel> *and a week
[13:39] <emorris> yofel, awesome, thanks :-)
[13:46] <bil21al> if we want to get the information about the crash from the user can we refer user to use valgrind method to reproduce it and attach the out put here?? is this a good method  of getting info about crash??
[13:48] <bil21al> or we use apport collect bug number to get info ??
[13:49] <pedro_> it depends of the crash
[13:49] <pedro_> if its a memory corruption one (*alloc* calls) then yes, a valgrind log is really useful there
[13:57] <bil21al>  pedro_ and in case of unity crash and software crash? is there any ubuntu wiki page that i study?
[13:58] <pedro_> software crash == software center?
[13:58] <pedro_> i think there's  a page for unity..
[13:58]  * pedro_ looks
[13:59] <pedro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/FilingBugs
[13:59] <pedro_> bil21al, ^
[14:00] <bil21al> ok i study that thankx
[14:49] <bil21al> in which branch we report the theme bug?
[14:57] <bil21al> pedro_
[14:58] <bil21al> see this bug please now what i do ask him for the vedio because in vedio we can easily see the vanishing of chat window??
[14:58] <bil21al> in this bug
[14:58] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/873786
[14:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 873786 in empathy (Ubuntu) "can't see Empathy's contact list after logging in accounts (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[15:00] <bil21al> anybody
[15:00] <bil21al> !!
[15:05] <pedro_> bil21al, "There is no way to add a image of it because there isn't any message or action appearing. What happens is that the program closes by itself imediatelly when I try open it."
[15:05] <pedro_> looks like the program is crashing
[15:05] <pedro_> could you ask the reporter to enable apport and submit a new report?
[15:06] <pedro_> you can then mark this report as a dup of the new one
[15:06] <bil21al> ok thank you.
[15:07] <pedro_> you're welcome
[15:07] <pedro_> thanks for help us :-)
[15:12] <bil21al> no no pedro_ bro you help me.
[15:12] <pedro_> oh with a new release out we should organize a bug day next week
[15:20] <bil21al> hmm gud pedro_
[15:35] <bil21al> have anybody see this issue??
[15:35] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/873786
[15:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 873786 in empathy (Ubuntu) "can't see Empathy's contact list after logging in accounts (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[15:35] <bil21al> no not that sorry this one
[15:35] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/874348
[15:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 874348 in unity (Ubuntu) "when we change the theme some icons from the launcher vanished (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[15:36] <bil21al> not the upper one
[15:36] <bil21al> sorry
[16:51] <sense> Who can I bug to review my pending membership request for the Bug Squad?
[17:01] <yofel> hggdh probably ^^
[17:01] <yofel> sense: long time no see :)
[17:01] <sense> Hello yofel!
[17:01] <sense> I've been away for a while, but now I'm back.
[17:01] <yofel> \o/
[17:01] <sense> How's everyone been?
[17:06] <yofel> sense: pretty busy, I'm currently more working on kubuntu than on bugs though
[17:06] <sense> yofel: A lot to do?
[17:06] <yofel> there's a lot to do everywhere, you can usually measure teams by how understaffed they are :P
[17:08] <hggdh> sense! welcome back sir!
[17:09] <sense> hello hggdh! Good to see your name on my screen!
[17:09] <hggdh> sense: it will be my pleasure, looking at it now. I missed you :-)
[17:10] <sense> hggdh: I missed you too. The community is nice.
[17:12] <hggdh> sense: done. Are you also looking at -control?
[17:13] <sense> hggdh: I would wish to rejoin that as well, but haven't sent in my application. Should I do that? :)
[17:13] <hggdh> sense: I think you would be warranted back. pedro_, bdmurray? ^
[17:13] <sense> I shouldn't have left that team.
[17:14] <pedro_> don't think it is needed to send the application again
[17:14] <hggdh> :-) life is what it is, don't worry about that
[17:14] <pedro_> welcome back sense :-)
[17:14] <sense> Hi and thanks pedro_!
[17:15] <dtchen> good to see you again, sense.
[17:15] <sense> thanks dtchen
[17:19] <hggdh> sense: also done. I am really glad to see you (er, chat with you)
[17:19] <sense> hggdh: Thank you!
[17:20]  * hggdh considers this a good day already
[17:20] <sense> hggdh: How has this cycle been for you?
[17:20] <hggdh> sense: confusing :-)
[17:21] <hggdh> I am glad we shipped it, now I have a few days of rest
[17:21] <sense> :)
[17:21] <sense> Must have been a lot of work, all that new stuff that went into the server.
[17:22] <hggdh> it was, but I was not as active on the server, unfortunately, had other pressing work to be done
[17:22] <hggdh> pretty much the most important thing I did there was participate a bit on the development of an auxiliary package
[17:23] <sense> You did some development!
[17:24] <hggdh> yeah. Slowly I am getting back to programming. But nowadays it takes longer to write code, I have to refer to the documentation continuously
[17:25] <hggdh> different from riding a bike, if you do not write code continuously, you forget a lot
[17:25] <sense> yeah, I can imagine that
[17:26] <hggdh> heh. For someone that pretty much only wrote OS-related code, I am amazingly weak nowadays
[17:26] <sense> That demonstrates how quickly one forgets things.
[17:28] <hggdh> yes. Well, I stopped programming -- *really* programming -- some 15 years ago. From that time onward I think I wrote very few complete programs, and more of patches (but still too few)
[17:29] <sense> A lot of things have changed in those 15 years!
[17:29] <sense> Even without forgetting, you would need a lot of documentation.
[17:29] <hggdh> yes. Python got to be serious, for example, and Java go to be even more a POS
[17:30] <hggdh> C is still C, though. And I still hate C++
[17:30] <sense> :)
[18:35] <roadmr> bummer, some stress tests require manual intervention (hibernate_30 requires me to tell it to go ahead and do it)
 says "When reporting a problem with hardware detection, you should report the bug against the kernel." That doesn't make sense to me.
[19:30] <sense> What about media-player-info and the likes?
[19:31] <sense> Or is it just a general lack of maintenance of the debugging wiki pages?
[19:31] <pedro_> corner cases?
[19:31] <pedro_> looks like it's more for things like my device is not detected at all
[19:31] <pedro_> rather than my device is detected but not mounted in banshee cause is missing the .is_audio_player thing
[19:32] <sense> yeah
[19:32] <pedro_> that should be a bit more clear though
[19:32] <sense> I looked at some of the other pages and they all need an overhaul.
[19:33] <sense> Maybe something for the UDS! :)
[19:33] <ikt> o.O
[19:51] <hggdh> yes, it is time to overhaul them -- again!
[22:29] <MoLE_> bug 715438, anyone available to triage importance?
[22:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 715438 in linux (Ubuntu) "hermes-I wireless interface will not associate with open access point (affects: 26) (dups: 2) (heat: 84)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715438
[23:46] <MoLE_> bug 715438, any bug squad member available to look at triaging importance?
[23:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 715438 in linux (Ubuntu) "hermes-I wireless interface will not associate with open access point (affects: 26) (dups: 2) (heat: 84)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715438
[23:55] <mdlueck> What is the correct "package" to log a bug against to specify just the base OS, Lucid 10.04.3 both x64 and x86?
[23:56] <mdlueck> I have to report: "Ubuntu Lucid prevents system POST once installed"