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akgranerwoo hoo - does life get any better - Ubuntu and Wil Wheaton on Big Bang Theory all in the same day!00:02
akgranerI should say Ubuntu Release today and Wil Wheaton on Big Bang Theory tonight - all this in the same day!00:03
Pendulumakgraner: and you say you're not a geek :P00:08
akgranerPendulum, :P00:09
mhall119Ubuntu has also been (mentioned) on the Big Bang Theory02:34
dholbachgood morning06:30
nigelbMorning dholbach!06:31
dholbachhi nigelb06:33
kim0dholbach: nigelb morning folks07:56
dholbachhi kim007:58
Pendulummorning dholbach, kim007:59
kim0Pendulum: o/ howdy07:59
dholbachhiya Pendulum08:12
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Social - feel free to add08:32
czajkowskialoha08:49
czajkowskic/08:49
* jono rubs eyes10:28
jono:-)10:28
nigelbjono: morning :P10:32
jonohey nigelb :-)10:33
nigelbI'm guessing everyone was amazingly drunk last night ;)10:33
czajkowskinope10:38
czajkowskinice to meet folks great turn out10:38
czajkowskinice beers10:38
czajkowskijono: I've been posting stuff to the locoteams page this week hope thats ok10:38
czajkowskion facebook10:39
jonoczajkowski, of course!10:39
jonothanks!10:39
czajkowskinp10:39
jonoczajkowski, was lovely to see you last night :-)10:39
czajkowskihttp://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2011/10/13/how-to-set-up-a-loco-check-list/10:39
czajkowskihas gone down well10:39
czajkowskiand we're adding to to the LD as well10:40
czajkowskijono: it's always gret to see you and your whacky t-shirts!10:40
jonoczajkowski, :-)10:40
czajkowskijono: when's the flight back ?10:41
jonoin an hour10:41
jonoI am sat at Heathrow in the lounge10:41
czajkowskias are the rest of the teams no :)10:41
czajkowskifamily reuninion at airport10:41
czajkowskiwas no fun not seeing any of you lot this morning on the way to work10:41
czajkowskilast day at work today and it's really odd being in here10:42
czajkowskijono: on the plus side I did go home to http://t.co/mN8y5Emm and an android tablet from Jon for my bday :D10:42
czajkowskiso that kinda made up for the shite day :)10:42
jonoczajkowski, woooo!10:43
jonoczajkowski, yeah it was lovely seeing you waving when I walked to work :-)10:43
czajkowskihehe10:43
czajkowskiit's cool the tablet does voice commands, even understood me10:43
czajkowskiwas I was well chuffed10:43
czajkowskicatching up with mat next week as he's in London :D10:44
czajkowskiso I'll have caught up with ye all again10:44
czajkowskijono: february 2012 will be 5 years since I first met you, and skynet may be doing a mini conference and 20 years of skynet, shall keep you posted.10:44
jonoczajkowski, oh wow!10:45
jonocool :-)10:45
popeyUUuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh10:53
* czajkowski hands popey a pillow and duvey 10:54
czajkowski*duvet10:54
popeyyes!10:54
popeymy car is in the car park10:54
popeytempted to go out and sleep for a bit10:54
dpmhey jono, have a good flight back, I hope the hangover is not too bad :)10:54
dholbachhaha10:55
* jussi fails at producing a sheet of barcodes. any suggestions? ( I need a sheet of barcodes (24) that fit into stickers that are 70x37mm)10:55
jonothanks dpm :-)11:00
dpm:)11:00
kim0jono: same from me :)11:00
dpmjussi, have you tried gLabels?11:00
AlanBelljussi: install a 3 of 9 font and treat it like text11:00
AlanBellwith a * at each end11:01
jonothanks, folks!11:01
jussidpm: yes, I cant seem to get real barcodes out of it11:01
jonohave to run to my gate, congrats on 11.10, speak soon!11:01
AlanBelljussi: 3 of 9 must start and end with *11:02
jussiAlanBell: hrm? Im a bit mixed up on what you are trying to communicate?11:03
AlanBellthe string must be something like "*12345*"11:04
AlanBellor "*THIS IS A BARCODE*"11:04
AlanBellthen you put that in the 3 of 9 font and it will be scannable11:04
jussiahh.. is the 3 of 9 font in ubuntu by default?11:06
jussioh wow. found the font online, installed with kde font installer, restarted libreoffice, off we go. EPIC thanks AlanBell!11:12
akgranerdholbach, somewhere in the wide world that makes up the Ubuntu Wiki's is a page that nhandler created for teams to add their identi.ca, twitter, status net etc accounts too...I'm trying to find it to link to your Social Media page :-)11:50
dholbachah cool11:50
akgranerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MicroBlogging11:51
akgranerfound it - I had to think - how would nhandler name this page :-)11:51
dholbachgreat11:51
dholbachadded it11:52
dholbachawesome11:52
akgranerdholbach, you are fast on the wiki draw there :-)  thanks - I forgot about it until you created your page - and I don't know that many teams even knew it was there11:54
jussiAlanBell: about still?11:54
AlanBellyes11:55
dholbachthanks akgraner11:55
dholbachtime for lunch over here11:55
jussiAlanBell: I cant seem to get a working barcod out of it - any common breakages that I might be doing? Im using size 54, not italic or bold, and a number, ie. *10001*11:56
AlanBellscreenshot plz11:57
jussihttp://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/14/plasma-desktopVu2022.jpg11:58
akgranerdpm, dholbach, kim0, nigelb I created a googledoc with planning checklists for each of the *ubuntu weeks/days - if I send you all the link can you review the page and make corrections to the lists (as they are based off developer week)11:58
jussithats a shorter one, but still11:59
nigelbakgraner: <312:00
akgranerfor stuff like hastags, mailing lists are correct, IRC channels to target are correct - I'm am updating the Open Week one and I asked jcastro to review it12:00
akgranernigelb, /me sends link your way - I'll then transfer the updated information back to the respective /Organisation wiki pages and to jcastro's boards :-)12:01
jussiAlanBell: I have this scanner (in finnish, but still, useful methinks) http://www.elec.fi/product/show/1066/viivakoodinlukija/5754/dur-801-viivakoodinlukija-lasertekniikalla-usb-ps212:02
akgranernigelb, you have mail :-)12:03
nigelbakgraner: :)12:03
akgranernigelb, I know the UserDay links are NOT correct b/c those pages are set up like the rest of the Ubuntu Weeks are - but it was easier for me to just copy the developer week check list and go from there12:03
akgraners/are/aren't12:04
AlanBellhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/10001.png jussi12:04
akgranerI'm working on getting the email to the session leads for next week  - once I finish I'll jump back in the doc and help update stuffs...thanks12:05
kim0akgraner: sure thing .. send that link over12:06
jussi1000112:06
AlanBelljussi: needs to start and end with thin thin fat fat thin12:06
AlanBellwhich is *12:06
jussiAlanBell: so how do I ensure that happens?12:06
jussibtw, that 10001 came from your pic being scanned12:07
AlanBellyou don't have * at each end12:07
AlanBellprobably because it changes *this* to this12:08
jussioh bah:(12:08
akgranerkim0 you have mail...:-)12:08
AlanBellyour application is bolding it for you and removing the *12:08
jussiAlanBell: ahh I guess autocorrect12:08
AlanBellyeah12:09
* jussi goes to smack libreoffice12:09
kim0dpm: yep12:09
kim0oops .. just yep12:09
* AlanBell points jussi at the options tab of autocorrect12:09
jussiAlanBell: yep, thanks, seen12:10
jussiAlanBell: IT WORKS!12:13
jussithank you so much :)12:13
AlanBellbeep12:14
jussi1000212:18
jussiNow I just have to figure out a nice way to a) automate making them, and b) getting the code written underneath. Cant be too hard12:25
pleia2dholbach: time to close the civs poll? (some natives are getting restless :))13:14
dholbachoh yeah13:14
dholbachwow13:14
* dholbach hugs pleia213:14
* pleia2 hugs13:14
dholbachcan't believe I forgot about it - yesterday I thought "ah, yes tomorrow - finally" half of the day13:15
pleia2hehe13:15
dholbachresults are up: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_234037fcede80bac13:16
dholbachcongratulations everyone13:16
dholbachI'll see if I can find Mark13:16
pleia2congrats to you too dholbach :)13:17
dholbach:)13:17
jcastrobuenas mornings!13:18
pleia2hola, jcastro!13:18
jcastrooh hey, new CC!13:19
jcastrowowo dholbach, you are popular.13:19
pleia2that's because dholbach is full of hugs and awesomeness13:20
nigelbeveryone loves dholbach :)13:20
* nigelb hugs pleia2 13:20
* pleia2 hugs nigelb 13:20
dholbachI have no idea how that happened13:21
pleia2clearly people really like names that end in "bach"13:21
jcastrohe's full of ponies and unicorns13:22
nigelbpleia2: lol13:24
nigelbjcastro: I agree13:24
mhall119ponies and unicorns? seems redundant13:25
AlanBell252 votes cast, is that good?13:25
nigelbNope.13:25
nigelbLess than half.13:25
pleia233% turnout in a week isn't horrible13:26
nigelbIts sad :(13:26
pleia2as these things go13:26
AlanBellseems OK to me13:26
nigelbOk, I have no expereince.13:26
nigelbSo I shouldn't have commented :)13:26
pleia2just makin' things up! :)13:26
AlanBellme neither, hence the question :)13:26
mhall119hey, that's better than off-year elections in the USA I think13:27
czajkowskiohh I am now gob smacked13:36
mhall119czajkowski: congrats13:49
czajkowskithank you ::)13:50
mhall119and also: I'm sorry13:50
mhall119for the things that are sure to come13:50
mhall119"congratulations and condolences" as I heard someone put it once13:50
jcastrohahaha13:51
jcastroawesome13:51
czajkowskimeh lost my job yesterday13:51
czajkowskithis is a good way to perk me up13:51
jcastro:(13:51
dholbachugh :-(13:51
czajkowskishite happens move on pick one self up and jump in to the next project right :)13:51
* dholbach hugs czajkowski13:51
* czajkowski hugs dholbach 13:52
czajkowskiturns out hiring 3 people in one week is bad move13:52
czajkowskidigital agency13:52
czajkowskinot enough work coming in13:52
czajkowski2 need to go13:52
akgranerczajkowski, congrats!13:53
czajkowskiakgraner: you too13:53
akgraner3 women on the CC woot woot! :-)  maybe the poster was a prediction of things to come ;-)13:56
czajkowskihah13:56
czajkowskitrue13:56
popey:D13:57
czajkowski3/8 is pretty damn flipping good13:58
mhall119better ratio than the general ubuntu community I would bet14:02
mhall119which is both good (that so many are in leadership) and bad (that so few are in the community)14:03
czajkowskihttp://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/10/14/elected-to-the-ubuntu-community-council/14:08
=== JanC_ is now known as JanC
czajkowskiok annoying the link going by the planet to the poll is borked14:51
czajkowskibut works fine from my site14:51
head_victimWell done to all the Community Councillors elected :)14:53
popeyczajkowski: link is wrong on your site14:54
popeyyou need to put http:// in front14:54
popeyoh, no, you have a space in the url14:54
popey <a href=" http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_234037fcede80bac" target="_blank">HERE</a></p>14:54
czajkowskiodd it works fine on site14:57
czajkowskiwodnering is planet slow in updtes14:58
AlanBellyou need to remove the space or planet thinks it is a relative URL and tries to fix it by prepending your site URL14:59
dpmjcastro, do you know if there is any markdown plugin for Thunderbird? That would be a reason for me to switch15:25
jcastroI don't see one. :(15:26
dpmno worries, I'll stick to evo for a while more :)15:28
dholbachand precise is open for development15:41
senseGood luck this cycle, everone!15:55
dholbachok, I call it a day - have a great WE everyone!16:17
jussidpm: quick google revealed this: https://github.com/jhs/thunderbird-markdown - not sure of how useful it is to you16:25
jussi(or if it is even what you need)16:25
dpmjussi, "A Thunderbird extension for composing plain text email in Markdown, but sending dual text/HTML versions" yeah, that was exactly what I was looking for! However, it seems it hasn't been worked on for the last 2 years16:27
jussi:(16:27
jussidpm: perhaps its still working and worth reviving...?16:27
jcastroor convincing ChrisCoulson to fix, mwahahaha.16:27
jussijcastro: ++ :D16:28
dpmlol16:33
* popey cuddles jcastro 16:42
jcastroPOPEY16:43
jussioh dear, they let akgraner on the CC!!!! $deity help us all :P :P :P16:46
jcastroOH MY GOD HERE COME THE CHECKLISTS.16:47
senseFinally! I love lists.16:49
senseMore lists! More lists! More lists!16:49
macosense: oh oh how about a list of lists?!16:49
senseyum!16:49
popeyhah, someone woke sense16:49
jcastrowb sense!16:49
senseHello jcastro!16:49
senseDid everyone have a nice release day?16:51
jcastrobusy!16:52
senseI can imagine that!16:53
senseIt seems that the buzz becomes more mainstream every year. Ubuntu is doing great!16:53
macoi wonder if anyone at my office has upgraded16:59
macofor that matter, i wonder if vmware will work on oneiric :-/16:59
senseWhy wouldn't it?17:00
dpmargh, the markdown plugin is not compatible with Thunderbird 717:08
* dpm calls it a day and digs into the code...17:08
macosense: new kernel17:19
senseah17:19
macovmware only officially started supporting maverick a week before natty came out17:19
macothankfully that version worked with natty too17:20
macobut through most of natty's dev, vmware couldnt run on it. i think for the first few weeks of natty dev, it would, if you patched it heavily, then natty's kernel went up another version and then the existing patches were no use17:20
sensehmmm17:24
senseThat doesn't sound very hopeful.17:25
macoit did work on maverick, but it was unsupported. it did not work on natty devel and only just barely got to "working but not supported" status on natty by the skin of its teeth17:26
senseI would expect better quality support for an OS such as Ubuntu.17:27
macoit still works weirdly on natty... after using vmware, sometimes i cant use shift, ctrl, or alt outside of vmware, til i toggle a keyboard setting to force it to reload the keyboard stuff and realise those keys exist again17:27
maco(for example, i'll change caps lock or esc behaviour and my keys will all start working again)17:27
akgranerjussi, :-)17:58
akgranerjcastro, email set to all session leaders you were CC'd17:59
jcastrosaw that17:59
jcastrota17:59
akgranerI don't think I missed any information did I?18:00
nigelbjcastro: when do we start hounding people to approve BPs?18:33
jcastroall the time?18:33
nigelbdo you have approval powers?18:33
nigelbwe need the ltp and summit ones approved18:34
* popey hugs jcastro 18:58
jcastroI do not have approval powers18:59
jcastrothat's the track lead18:59
nigelbaha, wait for jono to land  guess.18:59
jcastrohe averages checking for BPs about once a day fwiw18:59
cjohnstonjcastro: /2321:12
cjohnstonuggh21:12
cjohnstonsorry jcastro21:12
akgranerjcastro, the *ubuntu week/day checklist have all been added :-) - It's kinda cool assigning you to everything :-P21:40
mhall119lol21:40
jcastroAWWW YEAH21:40
akgraneryou said you wanted more lists :-) they need color coating and when the dates are decided we'll just need to add that as well21:41
akgranerpleia2, do you want the modified checklists added to userdays? - you can modify them on the card then I can take your modifications and add it back to googledoc and wiki22:03
akgranerI wanted to get these ready before UDS so I help find people to help and we have resources (how to's) in case they are new or just need the reassurance about how to help22:04
pleia2akgraner: I'm afraid my terrible internet connection through sunday isn't going to allow me to do much on trello :(22:05
pleia2takes too long to load and work with over 3g22:05
akgranerno worries we have lots of time - :-)22:05
akgranerI'll add them then you can do modify (or delete) them as necessary22:06
bkerensaakgraner: Do you know if any LoCo's have considered crowdsourcing a ship-it replacement?23:13
czajkowskibkerensa: in what way23:15
bkerensaczajkowski: Well many U.S. LoCo's have members in distant corners of the state and we also get people e-mailing asking for CD's and since Canonical doesnt ship to everyone anymore I figured it might be useful and a good way to spread Ubuntu by a few LoCo's on the West Coast getting together and distributing CD's via a form system and one or two people from each LoCo handling shipping and burning etc23:17
* bkerensa would be willing to contribute to the cost of mailing and donate a spindle of CD's every month or so23:17
bkerensaLogistically for instance people are not going to travel all the way from Southern Oregon to Portland just to get some Ubuntu CD's and plenty of people do not have the finances to burn CD's themselves to share with friends, schools etc.23:18
czajkowskibkerensa: AlanBell has done similar in the uk23:19
czajkowskiwe do the same in irelnand23:19
czajkowskiit goes to team contact and from there we disribute them out23:20
AlanBellhttp://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/23:20
czajkowskicds got to approved teams at present only23:20
bkerensaczajkowski: Yeah I know (Well technically they do but I know one or two LoCo's still get CD's and are unapproved) :)23:22
czajkowskibkerensa: you still do for conferences yes23:23
czajkowskibut thenew form wont allow non approved teams to get them23:23
AlanBellnot from the team allocation, you can still apply to shipit for specials23:23
bkerensaczajkowski: I think WA LoCo said something about they still have got release cd's even after ship-it ended23:24
AlanBellthey probably had a stock of them23:24
AlanBellor someone made a mistake23:24
bkerensaAlanBell: I think they just directly reached out to Canonical23:24
czajkowskithe last cycle i think shipit got a buit mixed up so now they've had to get tighter to be fairer23:24
bkerensaoh23:24
czajkowskiif only approved teams are to get them its kinda not fair23:24
czajkowskiunless it's a conference as they get a small amount in a conferen3ce pack23:25
bkerensaczajkowski: Yeah we got about 200 cd's for PuppetConf23:58
bkerensamaybe a little more... I didn't count... It was three cases23:58

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