[00:02] <akgraner> woo hoo - does life get any better - Ubuntu and Wil Wheaton on Big Bang Theory all in the same day!
[00:03] <akgraner> I should say Ubuntu Release today and Wil Wheaton on Big Bang Theory tonight - all this in the same day!
[00:08] <Pendulum> akgraner: and you say you're not a geek :P
[00:09] <akgraner> Pendulum, :P
[02:34] <mhall119> Ubuntu has also been (mentioned) on the Big Bang Theory
[06:30] <dholbach> good morning
[06:31] <nigelb> Morning dholbach!
[06:33] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[07:56] <kim0> dholbach: nigelb morning folks
[07:58] <dholbach> hi kim0
[07:59] <Pendulum> morning dholbach, kim0
[07:59] <kim0> Pendulum: o/ howdy
[08:12] <dholbach> hiya Pendulum
[08:32] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Social - feel free to add
[08:49] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:49] <czajkowski> c/
[10:28]  * jono rubs eyes
[10:28] <jono> :-)
[10:32] <nigelb> jono: morning :P
[10:33] <jono> hey nigelb :-)
[10:33] <nigelb> I'm guessing everyone was amazingly drunk last night ;)
[10:38] <czajkowski> nope
[10:38] <czajkowski> nice to meet folks great turn out
[10:38] <czajkowski> nice beers
[10:38] <czajkowski> jono: I've been posting stuff to the locoteams page this week hope thats ok
[10:39] <czajkowski> on facebook
[10:39] <jono> czajkowski, of course!
[10:39] <jono> thanks!
[10:39] <czajkowski> np
[10:39] <jono> czajkowski, was lovely to see you last night :-)
[10:39] <czajkowski> http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2011/10/13/how-to-set-up-a-loco-check-list/
[10:39] <czajkowski> has gone down well
[10:40] <czajkowski> and we're adding to to the LD as well
[10:40] <czajkowski> jono: it's always gret to see you and your whacky t-shirts!
[10:40] <jono> czajkowski, :-)
[10:41] <czajkowski> jono: when's the flight back ?
[10:41] <jono> in an hour
[10:41] <jono> I am sat at Heathrow in the lounge
[10:41] <czajkowski> as are the rest of the teams no :)
[10:41] <czajkowski> family reuninion at airport
[10:41] <czajkowski> was no fun not seeing any of you lot this morning on the way to work
[10:42] <czajkowski> last day at work today and it's really odd being in here
[10:42] <czajkowski> jono: on the plus side I did go home to http://t.co/mN8y5Emm and an android tablet from Jon for my bday :D
[10:42] <czajkowski> so that kinda made up for the shite day :)
[10:43] <jono> czajkowski, woooo!
[10:43] <jono> czajkowski, yeah it was lovely seeing you waving when I walked to work :-)
[10:43] <czajkowski> hehe
[10:43] <czajkowski> it's cool the tablet does voice commands, even understood me
[10:43] <czajkowski> was I was well chuffed
[10:44] <czajkowski> catching up with mat next week as he's in London :D
[10:44] <czajkowski> so I'll have caught up with ye all again
[10:44] <czajkowski> jono: february 2012 will be 5 years since I first met you, and skynet may be doing a mini conference and 20 years of skynet, shall keep you posted.
[10:45] <jono> czajkowski, oh wow!
[10:45] <jono> cool :-)
[10:53] <popey> UUuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:54]  * czajkowski hands popey a pillow and duvey 
[10:54] <czajkowski> *duvet
[10:54] <popey> yes!
[10:54] <popey> my car is in the car park
[10:54] <popey> tempted to go out and sleep for a bit
[10:54] <dpm> hey jono, have a good flight back, I hope the hangover is not too bad :)
[10:55] <dholbach> haha
[10:55]  * jussi fails at producing a sheet of barcodes. any suggestions? ( I need a sheet of barcodes (24) that fit into stickers that are 70x37mm)
[11:00] <jono> thanks dpm :-)
[11:00] <dpm> :)
[11:00] <kim0> jono: same from me :)
[11:00] <dpm> jussi, have you tried gLabels?
[11:00] <AlanBell> jussi: install a 3 of 9 font and treat it like text
[11:01] <AlanBell> with a * at each end
[11:01] <jono> thanks, folks!
[11:01] <jussi> dpm: yes, I cant seem to get real barcodes out of it
[11:01] <jono> have to run to my gate, congrats on 11.10, speak soon!
[11:02] <AlanBell> jussi: 3 of 9 must start and end with *
[11:03] <jussi> AlanBell: hrm? Im a bit mixed up on what you are trying to communicate?
[11:04] <AlanBell> the string must be something like "*12345*"
[11:04] <AlanBell> or "*THIS IS A BARCODE*"
[11:04] <AlanBell> then you put that in the 3 of 9 font and it will be scannable
[11:06] <jussi> ahh.. is the 3 of 9 font in ubuntu by default?
[11:12] <jussi> oh wow. found the font online, installed with kde font installer, restarted libreoffice, off we go. EPIC thanks AlanBell!
[11:50] <akgraner> dholbach, somewhere in the wide world that makes up the Ubuntu Wiki's is a page that nhandler created for teams to add their identi.ca, twitter, status net etc accounts too...I'm trying to find it to link to your Social Media page :-)
[11:50] <dholbach> ah cool
[11:51] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MicroBlogging
[11:51] <akgraner> found it - I had to think - how would nhandler name this page :-)
[11:51] <dholbach> great
[11:52] <dholbach> added it
[11:52] <dholbach> awesome
[11:54] <akgraner> dholbach, you are fast on the wiki draw there :-)  thanks - I forgot about it until you created your page - and I don't know that many teams even knew it was there
[11:54] <jussi> AlanBell: about still?
[11:55] <AlanBell> yes
[11:55] <dholbach> thanks akgraner
[11:55] <dholbach> time for lunch over here
[11:56] <jussi> AlanBell: I cant seem to get a working barcod out of it - any common breakages that I might be doing? Im using size 54, not italic or bold, and a number, ie. *10001*
[11:57] <AlanBell> screenshot plz
[11:58] <jussi> http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/14/plasma-desktopVu2022.jpg
[11:58] <akgraner> dpm, dholbach, kim0, nigelb I created a googledoc with planning checklists for each of the *ubuntu weeks/days - if I send you all the link can you review the page and make corrections to the lists (as they are based off developer week)
[11:59] <jussi> thats a shorter one, but still
[12:00] <nigelb> akgraner: <3
[12:00] <akgraner> for stuff like hastags, mailing lists are correct, IRC channels to target are correct - I'm am updating the Open Week one and I asked jcastro to review it
[12:01] <akgraner> nigelb, /me sends link your way - I'll then transfer the updated information back to the respective /Organisation wiki pages and to jcastro's boards :-)
[12:02] <jussi> AlanBell: I have this scanner (in finnish, but still, useful methinks) http://www.elec.fi/product/show/1066/viivakoodinlukija/5754/dur-801-viivakoodinlukija-lasertekniikalla-usb-ps2
[12:03] <akgraner> nigelb, you have mail :-)
[12:03] <nigelb> akgraner: :)
[12:03] <akgraner> nigelb, I know the UserDay links are NOT correct b/c those pages are set up like the rest of the Ubuntu Weeks are - but it was easier for me to just copy the developer week check list and go from there
[12:04] <akgraner> s/are/aren't
[12:04] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/10001.png jussi
[12:05] <akgraner> I'm working on getting the email to the session leads for next week  - once I finish I'll jump back in the doc and help update stuffs...thanks
[12:06] <kim0> akgraner: sure thing .. send that link over
[12:06] <jussi> 10001
[12:06] <AlanBell> jussi: needs to start and end with thin thin fat fat thin
[12:06] <AlanBell> which is *
[12:06] <jussi> AlanBell: so how do I ensure that happens?
[12:07] <jussi> btw, that 10001 came from your pic being scanned
[12:07] <AlanBell> you don't have * at each end
[12:08] <AlanBell> probably because it changes *this* to this
[12:08] <jussi> oh bah:(
[12:08] <akgraner> kim0 you have mail...:-)
[12:08] <AlanBell> your application is bolding it for you and removing the *
[12:08] <jussi> AlanBell: ahh I guess autocorrect
[12:09] <AlanBell> yeah
[12:09]  * jussi goes to smack libreoffice
[12:09] <kim0> dpm: yep
[12:09] <kim0> oops .. just yep
[12:09]  * AlanBell points jussi at the options tab of autocorrect
[12:10] <jussi> AlanBell: yep, thanks, seen
[12:13] <jussi> AlanBell: IT WORKS!
[12:13] <jussi> thank you so much :)
[12:14] <AlanBell> beep
[12:18] <jussi> 10002
[12:25] <jussi> Now I just have to figure out a nice way to a) automate making them, and b) getting the code written underneath. Cant be too hard
[13:14] <pleia2> dholbach: time to close the civs poll? (some natives are getting restless :))
[13:14] <dholbach> oh yeah
[13:14] <dholbach> wow
[13:14]  * dholbach hugs pleia2
[13:14]  * pleia2 hugs
[13:15] <dholbach> can't believe I forgot about it - yesterday I thought "ah, yes tomorrow - finally" half of the day
[13:15] <pleia2> hehe
[13:16] <dholbach> results are up: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_234037fcede80bac
[13:16] <dholbach> congratulations everyone
[13:16] <dholbach> I'll see if I can find Mark
[13:17] <pleia2> congrats to you too dholbach :)
[13:17] <dholbach> :)
[13:18] <jcastro> buenas mornings!
[13:18] <pleia2> hola, jcastro!
[13:19] <jcastro> oh hey, new CC!
[13:19] <jcastro> wowo dholbach, you are popular.
[13:20] <pleia2> that's because dholbach is full of hugs and awesomeness
[13:20] <nigelb> everyone loves dholbach :)
[13:20]  * nigelb hugs pleia2 
[13:20]  * pleia2 hugs nigelb 
[13:21] <dholbach> I have no idea how that happened
[13:21] <pleia2> clearly people really like names that end in "bach"
[13:22] <jcastro> he's full of ponies and unicorns
[13:24] <nigelb> pleia2: lol
[13:24] <nigelb> jcastro: I agree
[13:25] <mhall119> ponies and unicorns? seems redundant
[13:25] <AlanBell> 252 votes cast, is that good?
[13:25] <nigelb> Nope.
[13:25] <nigelb> Less than half.
[13:26] <pleia2> 33% turnout in a week isn't horrible
[13:26] <nigelb> Its sad :(
[13:26] <pleia2> as these things go
[13:26] <AlanBell> seems OK to me
[13:26] <nigelb> Ok, I have no expereince.
[13:26] <nigelb> So I shouldn't have commented :)
[13:26] <pleia2> just makin' things up! :)
[13:26] <AlanBell> me neither, hence the question :)
[13:27] <mhall119> hey, that's better than off-year elections in the USA I think
[13:36] <czajkowski> ohh I am now gob smacked
[13:49] <mhall119> czajkowski: congrats
[13:50] <czajkowski> thank you ::)
[13:50] <mhall119> and also: I'm sorry
[13:50] <mhall119> for the things that are sure to come
[13:50] <mhall119> "congratulations and condolences" as I heard someone put it once
[13:51] <jcastro> hahaha
[13:51] <jcastro> awesome
[13:51] <czajkowski> meh lost my job yesterday
[13:51] <czajkowski> this is a good way to perk me up
[13:51] <jcastro> :(
[13:51] <dholbach> ugh :-(
[13:51] <czajkowski> shite happens move on pick one self up and jump in to the next project right :)
[13:51]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski
[13:52]  * czajkowski hugs dholbach 
[13:52] <czajkowski> turns out hiring 3 people in one week is bad move
[13:52] <czajkowski> digital agency
[13:52] <czajkowski> not enough work coming in
[13:52] <czajkowski> 2 need to go
[13:53] <akgraner> czajkowski, congrats!
[13:53] <czajkowski> akgraner: you too
[13:56] <akgraner> 3 women on the CC woot woot! :-)  maybe the poster was a prediction of things to come ;-)
[13:56] <czajkowski> hah
[13:56] <czajkowski> true
[13:57] <popey> :D
[13:58] <czajkowski> 3/8 is pretty damn flipping good
[14:02] <mhall119> better ratio than the general ubuntu community I would bet
[14:03] <mhall119> which is both good (that so many are in leadership) and bad (that so few are in the community)
[14:08] <czajkowski> http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/10/14/elected-to-the-ubuntu-community-council/
[14:51] <czajkowski> ok annoying the link going by the planet to the poll is borked
[14:51] <czajkowski> but works fine from my site
[14:53] <head_victim> Well done to all the Community Councillors elected :)
[14:54] <popey> czajkowski: link is wrong on your site
[14:54] <popey> you need to put http:// in front
[14:54] <popey> oh, no, you have a space in the url
[14:54] <popey>  <a href=" http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_234037fcede80bac" target="_blank">HERE</a></p>
[14:57] <czajkowski> odd it works fine on site
[14:58] <czajkowski> wodnering is planet slow in updtes
[14:59] <AlanBell> you need to remove the space or planet thinks it is a relative URL and tries to fix it by prepending your site URL
[15:25] <dpm> jcastro, do you know if there is any markdown plugin for Thunderbird? That would be a reason for me to switch
[15:26] <jcastro> I don't see one. :(
[15:28] <dpm> no worries, I'll stick to evo for a while more :)
[15:41] <dholbach> and precise is open for development
[15:55] <sense> Good luck this cycle, everone!
[16:17] <dholbach> ok, I call it a day - have a great WE everyone!
[16:25] <jussi> dpm: quick google revealed this: https://github.com/jhs/thunderbird-markdown - not sure of how useful it is to you
[16:25] <jussi> (or if it is even what you need)
[16:27] <dpm> jussi, "A Thunderbird extension for composing plain text email in Markdown, but sending dual text/HTML versions" yeah, that was exactly what I was looking for! However, it seems it hasn't been worked on for the last 2 years
[16:27] <jussi> :(
[16:27] <jussi> dpm: perhaps its still working and worth reviving...?
[16:27] <jcastro> or convincing ChrisCoulson to fix, mwahahaha.
[16:28] <jussi> jcastro: ++ :D
[16:33] <dpm> lol
[16:42]  * popey cuddles jcastro 
[16:43] <jcastro> POPEY
[16:46] <jussi> oh dear, they let akgraner on the CC!!!! $deity help us all :P :P :P
[16:47] <jcastro> OH MY GOD HERE COME THE CHECKLISTS.
[16:49] <sense> Finally! I love lists.
[16:49] <sense> More lists! More lists! More lists!
[16:49] <maco> sense: oh oh how about a list of lists?!
[16:49] <sense> yum!
[16:49] <popey> hah, someone woke sense
[16:49] <jcastro> wb sense!
[16:49] <sense> Hello jcastro!
[16:51] <sense> Did everyone have a nice release day?
[16:52] <jcastro> busy!
[16:53] <sense> I can imagine that!
[16:53] <sense> It seems that the buzz becomes more mainstream every year. Ubuntu is doing great!
[16:59] <maco> i wonder if anyone at my office has upgraded
[16:59] <maco> for that matter, i wonder if vmware will work on oneiric :-/
[17:00] <sense> Why wouldn't it?
[17:08] <dpm> argh, the markdown plugin is not compatible with Thunderbird 7
[17:08]  * dpm calls it a day and digs into the code...
[17:19] <maco> sense: new kernel
[17:19] <sense> ah
[17:19] <maco> vmware only officially started supporting maverick a week before natty came out
[17:20] <maco> thankfully that version worked with natty too
[17:20] <maco> but through most of natty's dev, vmware couldnt run on it. i think for the first few weeks of natty dev, it would, if you patched it heavily, then natty's kernel went up another version and then the existing patches were no use
[17:24] <sense> hmmm
[17:25] <sense> That doesn't sound very hopeful.
[17:26] <maco> it did work on maverick, but it was unsupported. it did not work on natty devel and only just barely got to "working but not supported" status on natty by the skin of its teeth
[17:27] <sense> I would expect better quality support for an OS such as Ubuntu.
[17:27] <maco> it still works weirdly on natty... after using vmware, sometimes i cant use shift, ctrl, or alt outside of vmware, til i toggle a keyboard setting to force it to reload the keyboard stuff and realise those keys exist again
[17:27] <maco> (for example, i'll change caps lock or esc behaviour and my keys will all start working again)
[17:58] <akgraner> jussi, :-)
[17:59] <akgraner> jcastro, email set to all session leaders you were CC'd
[17:59] <jcastro> saw that
[17:59] <jcastro> ta
[18:00] <akgraner> I don't think I missed any information did I?
[18:33] <nigelb> jcastro: when do we start hounding people to approve BPs?
[18:33] <jcastro> all the time?
[18:33] <nigelb> do you have approval powers?
[18:34] <nigelb> we need the ltp and summit ones approved
[18:58]  * popey hugs jcastro 
[18:59] <jcastro> I do not have approval powers
[18:59] <jcastro> that's the track lead
[18:59] <nigelb> aha, wait for jono to land  guess.
[18:59] <jcastro> he averages checking for BPs about once a day fwiw
[21:12] <cjohnston> jcastro: /23
[21:12] <cjohnston> uggh
[21:12] <cjohnston> sorry jcastro
[21:40] <akgraner> jcastro, the *ubuntu week/day checklist have all been added :-) - It's kinda cool assigning you to everything :-P
[21:40] <mhall119> lol
[21:40] <jcastro> AWWW YEAH
[21:41] <akgraner> you said you wanted more lists :-) they need color coating and when the dates are decided we'll just need to add that as well
[22:03] <akgraner> pleia2, do you want the modified checklists added to userdays? - you can modify them on the card then I can take your modifications and add it back to googledoc and wiki
[22:04] <akgraner> I wanted to get these ready before UDS so I help find people to help and we have resources (how to's) in case they are new or just need the reassurance about how to help
[22:05] <pleia2> akgraner: I'm afraid my terrible internet connection through sunday isn't going to allow me to do much on trello :(
[22:05] <pleia2> takes too long to load and work with over 3g
[22:05] <akgraner> no worries we have lots of time - :-)
[22:06] <akgraner> I'll add them then you can do modify (or delete) them as necessary
[23:13] <bkerensa> akgraner: Do you know if any LoCo's have considered crowdsourcing a ship-it replacement?
[23:15] <czajkowski> bkerensa: in what way
[23:17] <bkerensa> czajkowski: Well many U.S. LoCo's have members in distant corners of the state and we also get people e-mailing asking for CD's and since Canonical doesnt ship to everyone anymore I figured it might be useful and a good way to spread Ubuntu by a few LoCo's on the West Coast getting together and distributing CD's via a form system and one or two people from each LoCo handling shipping and burning etc
[23:17]  * bkerensa would be willing to contribute to the cost of mailing and donate a spindle of CD's every month or so
[23:18] <bkerensa> Logistically for instance people are not going to travel all the way from Southern Oregon to Portland just to get some Ubuntu CD's and plenty of people do not have the finances to burn CD's themselves to share with friends, schools etc.
[23:19] <czajkowski> bkerensa: AlanBell has done similar in the uk
[23:19] <czajkowski> we do the same in irelnand
[23:20] <czajkowski> it goes to team contact and from there we disribute them out
[23:20] <AlanBell> http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/
[23:20] <czajkowski> cds got to approved teams at present only
[23:22] <bkerensa> czajkowski: Yeah I know (Well technically they do but I know one or two LoCo's still get CD's and are unapproved) :)
[23:23] <czajkowski> bkerensa: you still do for conferences yes
[23:23] <czajkowski> but thenew form wont allow non approved teams to get them
[23:23] <AlanBell> not from the team allocation, you can still apply to shipit for specials
[23:24] <bkerensa> czajkowski: I think WA LoCo said something about they still have got release cd's even after ship-it ended
[23:24] <AlanBell> they probably had a stock of them
[23:24] <AlanBell> or someone made a mistake
[23:24] <bkerensa> AlanBell: I think they just directly reached out to Canonical
[23:24] <czajkowski> the last cycle i think shipit got a buit mixed up so now they've had to get tighter to be fairer
[23:24] <bkerensa> oh
[23:24] <czajkowski> if only approved teams are to get them its kinda not fair
[23:25] <czajkowski> unless it's a conference as they get a small amount in a conferen3ce pack
[23:58] <bkerensa> czajkowski: Yeah we got about 200 cd's for PuppetConf
[23:58] <bkerensa> maybe a little more... I didn't count... It was three cases