[01:11] <InHisName1> Kids in bed, finally!   Howz the release party goin' ?
[01:13] <InHisName1> 2344 of 2367   with 2 hr 35 min left !!    for a measly 43 files left.
[01:14] <InHisName1> Hello DavidLevin
[01:22] <knightzero> Am I the only one failing to see a screensaver function within 11.10?
[01:37] <InHisName1> I'm not seeing 11.10 at all,       [yet]
[01:43]  * waltman is (finally) home from the happy hour
[02:19] <InHisName1> The happy hour is finished ?   Is it the UNhappy hour now ?
[02:20] <pleia2> that was fun :)
[02:23] <waltman> It was. I hadn't seen my buddy Phil in ages.
[02:25] <waltman> But I was overdressed with that rain coat. It was a long humid walk in the rain back up the hill from my train station.
[02:27] <waltman> So my Russian labmate, the one who has trouble with determiners, wrote back to thank me.
[02:27] <waltman> "I just looked over your comments, and so far they all looked straight-forward to address."
[02:27] <waltman> He also has issues with hyphenation.
[02:28] <waltman> Coincidentally, I had several comments in the doc that "straightforward" is spelled without hyphens.
[07:13] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:51] <rmg51> Morning
[11:13] <JonathanD> Morning again.
[11:26] <rmg51> JonathanD: you must have said that before I signed in
[11:27] <rmg51> I got home to late to bother booting up last night
[11:27] <rmg51> now I'm off to work
[11:36] <yoda_van> wow....too much redbull
[11:36] <jedijf> but worth it!
[12:02] <InHisName1> I got error from dpkg  about grub-pc   and it didnot install it.   How to find the logs before I reboot and review it ?
[12:05] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:11] <waltman> morning
[12:12] <waltman> JonathanD: 3:13 isn't morning, it's night.
[12:13] <JonathanD> it's morning.
[12:14] <JonathanD> I go to sleep at night.
[12:14] <JonathanD> I wake up in the morning.
[12:14] <JonathanD> ;)
[12:14] <waltman> I see.
[12:19] <rmg51> morning isn't till at least 5am
[12:20] <rmg51> you have to be close to sun rise
[12:26] <InHisName1> where's all the grubbers at ?
[14:11] <jedijf> pleia2: congrats on CC
[14:11] <pleia2> thanks :)
[14:11] <pleia2> I had a 5 day break
[14:11] <pleia2> hehe
[14:11] <pleia2> (not really, we've been working on wrapping things up)
[14:21] <InHisName1> before I reboot the new 11.10, I need to fix grub to work right.  Install errors from dpkg.
[14:21] <MutantTurkey> ubuntu upgrades always break stuff. safer to wait a few weeks till they fix that up
[14:22] <jedijf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:22] <jedijf> upgrade worked flawlessly at party
[14:22] <jedijf> on an eeeeeee pc
[14:22] <jedijf> in 2 1/2 hours on bar wireless
[14:23] <InHisName1> well my grub failed at 10.04 and 10.10 upgrades too.   Once I rebooted and that was LONG mess to fix up then.    THIS time I want to fix first before rebooting.
[14:24] <jthan> I never had any issues upgrading.
[14:24] <jedijf> InHisName1: that link holds /all/ the answers
[14:24] <InHisName1> Looking at it....
[14:25] <jedijf> InHisName1: so you haven't tried it yet?
[14:25] <InHisName1> grub failed once last year because I tried rebooting first.   BAD choice.
[14:26] <InHisName1> Now this error time want to fix grub first.
[14:26] <MutantTurkey> whats the error
[14:27] <InHisName1> Where to find logs of 11.10 upgrade and I might find full text of error that flew by detail window.
[14:43] <jedijf> i would look in /var/log/apt/
[15:31] <knightzero> Oh joy.....unity was happy on my laptop until I ran Compiz config.
[15:56] <waltman> CC == Community Czarina?
[16:03] <pleia2> ubuntu community council (it's the thing I was on before, I ran for re-election)
[16:09] <InHisName1> Hmm seems most useful part I can find from grub2 site is boot-repair  which is done in advance of needing it.
[16:09] <knightzero> Hmmm...unity 2d works, but standard with compiz is a no-go.  Too much of a headache to troubleshoot now, especially since gnome3 runs without a hitch.
[16:39] <InHisName1> Lotta reading about upgrade grub to grub2.   That was done last spring  for either 10.10 or 11.04 fixing.
[16:40] <InHisName1> Hmmm /var/log/apt/history.log   has ONE gargantuan string but no sign of an error from dpkg when installing grub during 11.10 upgrade.
[16:49] <InHisName1> from dkpkg.log    --->status half-configured grub-pc 199-12ubuntu5
[16:50] <InHisName1> what is 'half-configured' mean ?  that phrase is not in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 or in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:53] <InHisName1> someone suggested this:
[16:53] <InHisName1> dpkg-reconfigure --force grub-pc
[16:53] <InHisName1> aptitude upgrade
[17:04] <InHisName1> did that, now is there a way to 'test grub' before booting up ?
[17:19] <GeekyAdam> anyone here have any experience working with wordpress from the command-line?
[17:31] <GeekyAdam> nvm
[17:32] <GeekyAdam> (but thanks for all the help) ;]
[17:32] <GeekyAdam> so you philly meetup peeps, how's 11.10? any crazy changes you liked/disliked?
[17:38] <InHisName1> ummm its attempt to auto repair an error with grub that did not work ?
[17:46] <GeekyAdam> :(
[17:46] <JonathanD> So.
[17:46] <JonathanD> I'm trying to get the touchscreen working on an x200 lenovo tablet, ubuntu 11.10
[17:48] <JonathanD> I see it in dmesg as "wacom serial touchscreen"
[17:50] <InHisName1> Yea!!!  My HP touchPad arrived   [WebOS]
[17:50] <JonathanD> Google be failing me.
[17:51] <InHisName1> did pleia2 fly off for CA already?
[18:27] <jedijf> JonathanD: iirc there was something about wacom in release notes
[18:41] <InHisName1> do I dare reboot and risk that grub is still not fixed yet ?    I don't know how to test that it is ok.
[18:57] <JonathanD> jedijf: I shall check.
[19:30] <InHisName1> kids home from school,  intermittent checking now.
[20:20] <pleia2> http://gallery.ubuntupennsylvania.org/v/20111013/
[20:20] <pleia2> from last night :)
[20:25] <jedijf> ocelot needs a meeting
[20:26] <pleia2> lol
[20:26] <jedijf> celush
[20:26] <jedijf> ocelush
[20:26] <pleia2> nice one
[20:26] <jedijf> fit right in
[20:26] <pleia2> haha
[20:27] <jedijf> that cd is soooo hot; the design team should steal that
[20:27] <pleia2> he said it's up on spreadubuntu, I found one similar
[20:27] <pleia2> http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/packaging/ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal-cddvd-labels
[20:28] <pleia2> so maybe he doesn't have his 11.10 version up yet?
[20:28] <jedijf> ahh, i thought it was an original
[20:28] <pleia2> I am quite sure he's the one who uploaded it there
[20:28] <pleia2> some light stalking of noelitonoelito seems to be our guy
[20:29] <jedijf> yeah reverse launchpad rsvp hacking
[20:29] <jedijf> good, new crowd
[20:30] <pleia2> yeah :)
[20:31]  * pleia2 frowns at loco directory not loading
[20:34] <JonathanD> jedijf: haven't found anything in release notes.
[20:34] <JonathanD> using: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes
[20:39] <jedijf> JonathanD: yeah, brain fail, too many lists....
[20:40] <jedijf> JonathanD: dmesg give any hints?
[20:42] <JonathanD> just the "hey this exists"
[20:44] <JonathanD> input: Wacom Serial Touchscreen as /device..."
[21:07] <Joe_CoT> pleia2, so you're an admin on DarkMyst, do you play anything on there?
[21:46] <pleia2> Joe_CoT: nope, I joined ages ago when there when an internet radio station my ex-husband DJed on had a channel there
[21:46] <Joe_CoT> ah
[21:46] <Joe_CoT> so now you just admin for the hell of it?
[21:47] <pleia2> the owner of the network figured out I was vaguely internet famous and asked me to help out
[21:47] <Joe_CoT> haha
[21:48] <pleia2> so yeah, I do support stuff and update the website, and sometimes bring the network back together after splits (that's harder now that I only have an oline on one server though)
[21:54] <InHisName1> pleia2: is there a way to check out grub2 to validate that it is good before rebooting ? (and testing the HARD way, oops}
[21:55] <pleia2> InHisName1: grub2 files are automatically generated, so you shouldn't have a problem
[22:00] <InHisName1> During the upgrade I got a dpkg errror involving grub2.   I had errors similar to that in 10.04 and 10.10 and 11.04 also.   Rebooting was disaster, in 1104  I put in grub2.   Maybe some old pieces of old grub are giving it fits.
[22:00] <InHisName1> I've done several things so far to fix it.
[22:01] <InHisName1> A couple of command lines to re-run some fixing / install or whatever.
[22:02] <InHisName1> Then I ran something called boot-repair  which ran some of the prior stuff again.
[22:02] <pleia2> well if you need command line options it's hard to test that without the reboot, since you won't always know what you need with different kernels
[22:02] <InHisName1> I just am not sure if grub2 is viable enough to boot successfully on first go or not.
[22:03] <pleia2> I haven't had a problem with it yet
[22:03] <InHisName1> I used to review the menu.lst and catch stuff there but its no longer used.
[22:05] <InHisName1> I'm just a bit timid on daring myself to reboot / test grub, yet.
[22:14] <InHisName1> hi _nomad
[22:15] <_nomad> hiya
[22:15] <_nomad> good to meet some of you at national mechanics yesterday
[22:17] <jedijf> _nomad: indeed
[22:19] <jedijf> even better that you followed up here
[22:23] <_nomad> yeah
[22:23] <_nomad> only sad that its a friday night on irc
[22:23] <_nomad> haha
[22:24] <jedijf> we'll pretend it's monday
[22:28] <jedijf> rmg51: have any alts?
[22:36] <InHisName1> hi Sadin & _nomad
[22:37] <Sadin> hey InHisName
[22:42] <_nomad> heya
[22:47] <rmg51> jedijf: I have both 32 & 64 alt iso's
[22:47] <rmg51> burned one of each
[22:59] <InHisName1> my HP TouchPad wont start without wireless access.   9 Neighbors have it but all have passwords.
[23:56] <mikedep333> InHisName1, sad, but not surprising