[01:11] Kids in bed, finally! Howz the release party goin' ? [01:13] 2344 of 2367 with 2 hr 35 min left !! for a measly 43 files left. [01:14] Hello DavidLevin [01:22] Am I the only one failing to see a screensaver function within 11.10? [01:37] I'm not seeing 11.10 at all, [yet] [01:43] * waltman is (finally) home from the happy hour [02:19] The happy hour is finished ? Is it the UNhappy hour now ? [02:20] that was fun :) [02:23] It was. I hadn't seen my buddy Phil in ages. [02:25] But I was overdressed with that rain coat. It was a long humid walk in the rain back up the hill from my train station. [02:27] So my Russian labmate, the one who has trouble with determiners, wrote back to thank me. [02:27] "I just looked over your comments, and so far they all looked straight-forward to address." [02:27] He also has issues with hyphenation. [02:28] Coincidentally, I had several comments in the doc that "straightforward" is spelled without hyphens. [07:13] Morning. [09:51] Morning [11:13] Morning again. [11:26] JonathanD: you must have said that before I signed in [11:27] I got home to late to bother booting up last night [11:27] now I'm off to work [11:36] wow....too much redbull === yoda_van is now known as jedijf [11:36] but worth it! [12:02] I got error from dpkg about grub-pc and it didnot install it. How to find the logs before I reboot and review it ? [12:05] morning [12:11] morning [12:12] JonathanD: 3:13 isn't morning, it's night. [12:13] it's morning. [12:14] I go to sleep at night. [12:14] I wake up in the morning. [12:14] ;) [12:14] I see. [12:19] morning isn't till at least 5am [12:20] you have to be close to sun rise [12:26] where's all the grubbers at ? [14:11] pleia2: congrats on CC [14:11] thanks :) [14:11] I had a 5 day break [14:11] hehe [14:11] (not really, we've been working on wrapping things up) [14:21] before I reboot the new 11.10, I need to fix grub to work right. Install errors from dpkg. [14:21] ubuntu upgrades always break stuff. safer to wait a few weeks till they fix that up [14:22] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [14:22] upgrade worked flawlessly at party [14:22] on an eeeeeee pc [14:22] in 2 1/2 hours on bar wireless [14:23] well my grub failed at 10.04 and 10.10 upgrades too. Once I rebooted and that was LONG mess to fix up then. THIS time I want to fix first before rebooting. [14:24] I never had any issues upgrading. [14:24] InHisName1: that link holds /all/ the answers [14:24] Looking at it.... [14:25] InHisName1: so you haven't tried it yet? [14:25] grub failed once last year because I tried rebooting first. BAD choice. [14:26] Now this error time want to fix grub first. [14:26] whats the error [14:27] Where to find logs of 11.10 upgrade and I might find full text of error that flew by detail window. [14:43] i would look in /var/log/apt/ [15:31] Oh joy.....unity was happy on my laptop until I ran Compiz config. [15:56] CC == Community Czarina? [16:03] ubuntu community council (it's the thing I was on before, I ran for re-election) [16:09] Hmm seems most useful part I can find from grub2 site is boot-repair which is done in advance of needing it. [16:09] Hmmm...unity 2d works, but standard with compiz is a no-go. Too much of a headache to troubleshoot now, especially since gnome3 runs without a hitch. [16:39] Lotta reading about upgrade grub to grub2. That was done last spring for either 10.10 or 11.04 fixing. [16:40] Hmmm /var/log/apt/history.log has ONE gargantuan string but no sign of an error from dpkg when installing grub during 11.10 upgrade. [16:49] from dkpkg.log --->status half-configured grub-pc 199-12ubuntu5 [16:50] what is 'half-configured' mean ? that phrase is not in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 or in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [16:53] someone suggested this: [16:53] dpkg-reconfigure --force grub-pc [16:53] aptitude upgrade [17:04] did that, now is there a way to 'test grub' before booting up ? [17:19] anyone here have any experience working with wordpress from the command-line? [17:31] nvm [17:32] (but thanks for all the help) ;] [17:32] so you philly meetup peeps, how's 11.10? any crazy changes you liked/disliked? [17:38] ummm its attempt to auto repair an error with grub that did not work ? [17:46] :( [17:46] So. [17:46] I'm trying to get the touchscreen working on an x200 lenovo tablet, ubuntu 11.10 [17:48] I see it in dmesg as "wacom serial touchscreen" [17:50] Yea!!! My HP touchPad arrived [WebOS] [17:50] Google be failing me. [17:51] did pleia2 fly off for CA already? [18:27] JonathanD: iirc there was something about wacom in release notes [18:41] do I dare reboot and risk that grub is still not fixed yet ? I don't know how to test that it is ok. [18:57] jedijf: I shall check. [19:30] kids home from school, intermittent checking now. [20:20] http://gallery.ubuntupennsylvania.org/v/20111013/ [20:20] from last night :) [20:25] ocelot needs a meeting [20:26] lol [20:26] celush [20:26] ocelush [20:26] nice one [20:26] fit right in [20:26] haha [20:27] that cd is soooo hot; the design team should steal that [20:27] he said it's up on spreadubuntu, I found one similar [20:27] http://spreadubuntu.org/en/material/packaging/ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal-cddvd-labels [20:28] so maybe he doesn't have his 11.10 version up yet? [20:28] ahh, i thought it was an original [20:28] I am quite sure he's the one who uploaded it there [20:28] some light stalking of noelitonoelito seems to be our guy [20:29] yeah reverse launchpad rsvp hacking [20:29] good, new crowd [20:30] yeah :) [20:31] * pleia2 frowns at loco directory not loading [20:34] jedijf: haven't found anything in release notes. [20:34] using: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes [20:39] JonathanD: yeah, brain fail, too many lists.... [20:40] JonathanD: dmesg give any hints? [20:42] just the "hey this exists" [20:44] input: Wacom Serial Touchscreen as /device..." [21:07] pleia2, so you're an admin on DarkMyst, do you play anything on there? [21:46] Joe_CoT: nope, I joined ages ago when there when an internet radio station my ex-husband DJed on had a channel there [21:46] ah [21:46] so now you just admin for the hell of it? [21:47] the owner of the network figured out I was vaguely internet famous and asked me to help out [21:47] haha [21:48] so yeah, I do support stuff and update the website, and sometimes bring the network back together after splits (that's harder now that I only have an oline on one server though) [21:54] pleia2: is there a way to check out grub2 to validate that it is good before rebooting ? (and testing the HARD way, oops} [21:55] InHisName1: grub2 files are automatically generated, so you shouldn't have a problem [22:00] During the upgrade I got a dpkg errror involving grub2. I had errors similar to that in 10.04 and 10.10 and 11.04 also. Rebooting was disaster, in 1104 I put in grub2. Maybe some old pieces of old grub are giving it fits. [22:00] I've done several things so far to fix it. [22:01] A couple of command lines to re-run some fixing / install or whatever. [22:02] Then I ran something called boot-repair which ran some of the prior stuff again. [22:02] well if you need command line options it's hard to test that without the reboot, since you won't always know what you need with different kernels [22:02] I just am not sure if grub2 is viable enough to boot successfully on first go or not. [22:03] I haven't had a problem with it yet [22:03] I used to review the menu.lst and catch stuff there but its no longer used. [22:05] I'm just a bit timid on daring myself to reboot / test grub, yet. [22:14] hi _nomad [22:15] <_nomad> hiya [22:15] <_nomad> good to meet some of you at national mechanics yesterday [22:17] _nomad: indeed [22:19] even better that you followed up here [22:23] <_nomad> yeah [22:23] <_nomad> only sad that its a friday night on irc [22:23] <_nomad> haha [22:24] we'll pretend it's monday [22:28] rmg51: have any alts? [22:36] hi Sadin & _nomad [22:37] hey InHisName [22:42] <_nomad> heya [22:47] jedijf: I have both 32 & 64 alt iso's [22:47] burned one of each [22:59] my HP TouchPad wont start without wireless access. 9 Neighbors have it but all have passwords. [23:56] InHisName1, sad, but not surprising