[00:00] <cyberanger> beyond that, sorta your choice, found simple stock ones work, don't fight fitting them & while they may break quicker, still talking some good years for a cheap heatsink
[00:01] <chris4585> hrm so just look for one supported by amd athlon?
[00:02] <chris4585> I see there are different sizes, should that matter?
[00:02] <cyberanger> battery made it past 2 hours, 10% and dropping
[00:02] <cyberanger> chris4585: yep
[00:03] <cyberanger> chris4585: give me 20 minutes or so, I'll get you your socket type from your cpu info
[00:04] <cyberanger> chris4585: ^^ don't want the battery going full blown critical
[00:05] <chris4585> thanks cyberanger I appreciate it, I just don't want to buy something and have it not the right type
[00:05] <chris4585> I believe I'm gonna replace the heatsink with one from newegg
[00:25] <chris4585> I was looking it up, looks like socket A is what I need
[00:37]  * Unit193 wonders if anyone is really bored and wants to test Gtalk :D
[00:58] <cyberanger> Unit193: considering it's working now, why test
[00:59] <cyberanger> chris4585: sorry, did I say 20 minutes, I meant 54 minutes :-/
[00:59] <cyberanger> errands, never plan a deadline around them
[01:00] <Unit193> cyberanger: More of Pidgin + GTalk + my setup (worked with Skype though)
[01:00] <cyberanger> pidgin, blah
[01:00]  * cyberanger is no longer bored
[01:01] <Unit193> It works...
[01:01] <cyberanger> Unit193: sorta kidding, finch is decent, but bitlbee is more my thing
[01:01] <cyberanger> chris4585: you here
[01:01] <Unit193> cyberanger: Voice over biblbee?
[01:02] <chris4585> cyberanger, yeah
[01:11] <cyberanger> chris4585: can you run lshw & upload output?
[01:11] <cyberanger> Unit193: I'm into VoIPoAC
[01:12] <cyberanger> Voice over Internet Protocall over Avian Carrier
[01:20] <chris4585> cyberanger, yeah hold on
[01:20] <chris4585> I can try
[01:21] <cyberanger> chris4585: there is a plan b if that's an issue
[01:24] <chris4585> no go right now
[01:25] <cyberanger> go for plan a, or go for plan b
[01:26] <chris4585> can't get to command prompt
[01:26] <chris4585> but if it helps this is the exact model and same info http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883107363
[01:27] <cyberanger> chris4585: lemme load that & that should be enough
[01:28]  * cyberanger clicks
[01:30] <cyberanger> chris4585: socket AM2 (forgot how old that socket is)
[01:30] <cyberanger> so a heatsink that fits a socket AM2 that isn't fighting it's way into your case
[01:31] <cyberanger> ideally it has a small fan built-in
[01:31] <cyberanger> (well, any fan that isn't overkill, you'll get the idea looking around)
[01:37] <chris4585> sorry cyberanger I keep getting distract and with no notifications lol
[01:37] <chris4585> hrm alright I thought so
[01:38] <chris4585> I believe cyberanger thats the same as socket A?
[01:40] <chris4585> ah nvm I think I found some AM2 type heatsinks on newegg
[01:48] <chris4585> I believe I found a nice solution http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200014
[01:54] <cyberanger> looks like a newegg part
[02:06] <chris4585> yeah it looks like it would work with what I need
[02:08] <cyberanger> don't see anything to suggest otherwise
[02:08] <chris4585> also the pci nob thingamadoodle looks rather nice
[02:22] <chris4585> well that didn't cost me too much, just $20
[02:35] <wrst> cyberanger: any tools out there that let you know how much power a machine is drawing
[02:44] <cyberanger> wrst: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/7657/ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001
[02:44] <wrst> ahh cyberanger thank you i need to get one of those
[02:45] <wrst> cyberanger:  curious which machine is more effecient
[02:49]  * wrst gets silly and upgrades his server to 11.10
[03:03]  * cyberanger has some crazy ideas on making tor even more bulletproof, I really need to pick a task and do it, my todo list is already bigger than my wallet
[03:03] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger you need to find people willing to pay you!
[03:05] <cyberanger> yeah, or something
[03:11] <cyberanger> passive radar, my own phone network (complete with celluar towers) my own isp, censorship avoidance, compact radio transmitters for FM radio, (compared to your usual TV brodcast setup) a compact TV transmitter
[03:11] <wrst> cyberanger: sounds like an evil plot to rule the world
[03:11] <cyberanger> and that's the tip (but nowhere near short) list
[03:11]  * Unit193 wonders what the phone and ISP service will cost ;)
[03:12] <cyberanger> wrst: is it evil if it's aim is to oust a certain dictator <cough>Bashar al-Assad</cough> from a certian country <cough>syria</cough>
[03:13] <cyberanger> and able to be adapted for elsewhere <really long cough>iran comes to mind</really long cough>
[03:15] <cyberanger> and that's actually the funny thing, it's mostly just a mere technical intrest (the remainder is a bit of a dare)
[03:16] <wrst> Unit193: i was wondering the same thing
[03:19] <cyberanger> Unit193: depends on if it ever happens, and the costs to get it to happen
[03:19] <cyberanger> but I bet it'd be lower than most
[03:20] <cyberanger> due to the nature of how I'd aim to set it up, both technically and otherwise
[03:22] <wrst> cyberanger: i downloaded 5GB on wed, woudl there be a penalty for that?
[03:22] <cyberanger> mesh networking & utility cooperative, little infrastructure costs, and due to the type of business, be hard to make a profit that hurt consumers as long as it stays a cooperative business, vs a for-profit corporation
[03:23] <cyberanger> wrst: did you pay for 5GB on wed. if yes, then why would there be, if no, your not a customer, no overage fee, but a penalty, yep
[03:24] <cyberanger> that'd be my model, no caps, effort to maintain a quality of speed
[03:24]  * Unit193 likes always on with no caps :D
[03:24] <wrst> oh as far as I know its unlimited... but I'm trying to figure out what caused me to go over 5GB i did have pandora running all night would that do it?
[03:24] <cyberanger> again, upstream ISP is one cost I can't control, that's the pain
[03:24] <cyberanger> oh, you mean not a hypothetical for this....right
[03:25] <wrst> cyberanger: yeah i mean i really dl'd 5GB on wed :)
[03:25] <wrst> just checking my router logs
[03:25] <cyberanger> penalty with pandora?
[03:25] <cyberanger> or your ISP?
[03:26] <cyberanger> and it does seem high for audio, but if it were literally all night & tack on the iso's you downloaded for ubuntu, maybe
[03:26] <cyberanger> any video too
[03:26] <cyberanger> youtube, hulu, cbs?
[03:26] <cyberanger> gaming, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, online of course
[03:28] <wrst> cyberanger: http://welseystout.no-ip.org/usage.png
[03:28] <cyberanger> wrst: umm, check your link man
[03:29] <wrst> cyberanger: http://wesleystout.no-ip.org/usage.png
[03:29] <wrst> cyberanger: i can't spell my own name!
[03:30] <cyberanger> well, I know spell check binaries shouldn't be 5GB worth (bad joke I know, but I couldn't resist)
[03:30] <chris4585> hey wrst
[03:30] <chris4585> lol
[03:31] <wrst> hey chris4585
[03:31] <wrst> cyberanger: maybe my wife was netflixing a lot?
[03:36] <cyberanger> yeah, with bind9 & squid I've got more detailed logs on requests for what from where, could guess better
[03:36] <cyberanger> pandora played a role, if you told me 24 hours, maybe I'd believe 1-2GB tops
[03:37] <wrst> yeah it was 24 hours, Unit193 created a monster :)
[03:37] <Unit193> :D
[03:38] <wrst> and I'm assuming dd-wrt is correct in its computin'
[03:38] <cyberanger> granted, that alone could be it, all I can do is guess, but if I'm guessing (partially based on my own data from hulu, cbs, crackle, pandora & well, my usage in general, 24 hours, 5 GB of data, pandora alone couldn't be more than 50% of that, running nonstop for 24 hours, unrealistic still)
[03:40] <cyberanger> now, a few hours of netflix, plus most of the day with pandora (a much more likely scenario I would think) could do that easily
[03:40] <cyberanger> or a few hours of netflix & no pandora could do it
[03:41] <cyberanger> a penality is unlikely for 5GB in one day, now a monthly total maybe a different story
[03:41] <Unit193> Too bad cyberanger doesn't use Tomato, I could just grab the css file off him that he would have made :P
[03:41] <cyberanger> Unit193: me, css files, why?
[03:42] <wrst> cyberanger: i don't think my isp knows how to figure that out :)
[03:42] <cyberanger> and shame you don't use bind9, dhcp3 & squid, or I could just ask to see your /var/log
[03:42] <cyberanger> wrst: figure out your the guy that used 5GB of their data, poor poor isp
[03:43] <Unit193> cyberanger: Supports custom theme
[03:44] <cyberanger> Unit193: yeah, but there's even more power in my case
[03:44] <Unit193> Aye
[03:44] <wrst> yeah cyberanger i need to do that I guess :)
[03:48] <cyberanger> wrst: do what, go overboard in building your own router?
[03:49] <wrst> ha ha :)
[03:50] <cyberanger> wrst: in fairness, it actually isn't a bad idea to do some of that in some way
[03:50] <cyberanger> you have ddwrt & a server with a static ip
[03:50] <wrst> yep
[03:51] <cyberanger> most traffic that you'd want to follow for this is on port 80, dns shows the others
[03:51] <cyberanger> no reason setting up squid on that server with a fairly simple howto couldn't be done
[03:52] <cyberanger> then use squidview for reviewing requests
[03:52] <wrst> i just went over 2GB today :) but downloaded an ubuntu dvd by mistake instead of cd
[03:53] <cyberanger> that'd do it
[03:57] <wrst> and I really don't know why i care :)
[04:40] <chris4585> was reading a forum and came across this..
[04:40] <chris4585> Disclaimer: don't eat your CPU and or Heat sink and don't lick the thermal compound. Don't try to insert an Oreo cookie into your socket 939 or any other electronic device. Do not refer to a double-stuffed Oreo as a 'Dual-Core Oreo'
[06:46] <vychune> sup people
[11:56] <vychune> o/
[12:01] <cyberanger> vychune: wazzup
[12:01] <vychune> nothing
[12:01] <vychune> cricket broadband decided to stop messing up
[12:02] <vychune> yay
[12:03]  * cyberanger hands vychune a 2 by 6 to knock on
[12:03] <vychune> brb. Fire fox update
[12:03] <vychune> LOL!
[12:03] <vychune> brb
[12:11] <wrst> cyberanger: you in one of those never sleep modes? :)
[12:11] <cyberanger> wrst: not far from it
[12:11] <cyberanger> ugh
[12:13] <cyberanger> the end result should be worth it, but atm I f'd rather kill myself with a spoon
[12:13] <wrst> oh man you need sleep, my server is about to finish the upgrade i had to leave it be last night ubuntu's servers were slow... imagine that!
[12:13]  * cyberanger admits that sounded better in my head
[12:13] <wrst> ha ha
[12:13] <wrst> well no sleep does that to you ;)
[12:13] <cyberanger> lol
[12:14] <cyberanger> wrst: what about the Argonne National Labortory, RIT, GATECH, MIT or others
[12:15] <wrst> i just used the default mirror i should have changed
[12:15] <wrst> gatech usually has good speed, but didn't think about it until i started :)
[12:22] <cyberanger> so, ctrl-c
[12:22] <cyberanger> unless it's past the downloading stage
[12:22] <vychune> i was wondering why yall werent saying anything lol
[12:22] <cyberanger> apt is smart about completing downloads
[12:23] <cyberanger> vychune: where's the at 2 by 6 I wanted you to knock
[12:23] <vychune> First: the at?
[12:23]  * vychune knocks on wood
[12:24] <cyberanger> and now wrst departs, hrm
[12:24] <cyberanger> that's odd for him, guess his server upgrade is done
[12:24] <vychune> you on G+ yet?
[12:26] <vychune> cyberanger: you on G+ yet?
[12:26] <cyberanger> not using it
[12:28] <vychune> oh okj
[12:28] <vychune> oh ok
[12:28] <vychune> wrst whats good
[12:29] <wrst> i don't know yet vychune, hoping my server upgrades ok :)
[12:29] <wrst> how are you doing vychune ?
[12:29] <vychune> ok
[12:29] <vychune> was good but mom woke up
[12:29] <vychune> brb
[12:29] <cyberanger> there's enough social networking analysis & network theroy as is
[12:30] <cyberanger> vychune: ^
[12:49] <xpistos> morning all
[12:53] <wrst> morning xpistos
[13:00] <xpistos> So how are we doing today?
[13:07] <vychune> xpistos: ok
[13:10] <xpistos> Juzzy: FYI, I don't know if I told you this or not, but after your help, I had someone contact me about a new job and long story short, I start on the 24th. Thank you!
[13:34] <vychune> xpistos: great news dude
[13:39] <vychune> firefox crash :/
[13:44] <vychune> just found out someone used my account on Youtube to spam people
[13:45] <cyberanger> oh that's fun :/
[13:45] <wrst> wow vychune :\ stinks
[13:46] <vychune> yeah
[13:47] <vychune> if there wasnt copyright issues i wouldnt have know
[13:49] <vychune> known
[14:04] <cyberanger> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316330_10150318321091903_526881902_8385449_1701124345_n.jpg
[14:04] <cyberanger> that's awesome, in an orwellian sort of way ^^
[14:13] <vychune> lol
[14:19] <cyberanger> vychune: you like?
[14:20] <vychune> it's cool in a crazy sort of way
[14:21] <cyberanger> well, it's a crazy world (nice satire anyway)
[14:28]  * vychune googles satire
[14:29]  * cyberanger spell checks it in case, checks out
[14:29] <cyberanger> vychune: think paradoy
[14:30] <vychune> should have spell checked that lo
[14:30] <vychune> *lol
[14:30] <cyberanger> well, it was right
[14:30] <cyberanger> vychune: know of Stephen Colbert, The Colbert Report
[14:30] <cyberanger> ?
[14:30] <vychune> watched it once
[14:31] <vychune> i like the daily show better
[14:32] <cyberanger> both are about the same I'd bet, a satire of most news media in the US, journalists who are opinioniated & self-rightous (not neutral like a journalist should be)
[14:33] <cyberanger> that's a pirme example of a satire
[14:33] <cyberanger> a paradoy is a little different (and that photo is a bit of both, there is room for overlap)
[14:35] <cyberanger> I think british & french humour it's more distinct from the other, america, we have our own ideas of humour (however, I've broadened my horizions somewhat)
[14:39] <cyberanger> there was a satire made in 1979, set in (at that moment) the future, 1998, called Americathon, was a bit ironic in that some of the humour became real, for example of some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americathon#Satirical_predictions
[14:40] <cyberanger> to me, watching that this month, made it even funnier in some ways
[14:40] <cyberanger> (actually, last month, but it stood out, could have been yesterday)
[14:41] <cyberanger> The President Is A Yutz
[14:58] <vychune> o/
[15:11] <cosmicpizza> hey vychune
[15:17] <vychune> hey man sorry i dozed off lol
[15:18] <vychune> binarymutant: whats happening?
[15:21] <cyberanger> vychune: um, his connection reset, been quiet here all morning
[15:21] <vychune> lol
[15:21] <vychune> ok
[15:21] <cyberanger> from him that is
[15:22] <vychune> i got ya
[16:29] <wrst> wb electricus_
[16:32] <binarymutant> back :D
[16:36] <wrst> binarymutant: how are you doing?
[16:38] <binarymutant> good and you wrst?
[16:39] <wrst> doing well binarymutant
[16:39] <wrst> what are you up to?
[16:40] <binarymutant> just got back home from a long night
[16:40] <binarymutant> catching up with the 2 days I missed
[16:41] <wrst> ohh
[16:41] <binarymutant> well 1 day
[16:41] <wrst> wb binarymutant :)
[16:42] <binarymutant> ty :D
[21:10] <cyberanger> bbl
[21:29] <binarymutant>  had to go back to firefox and vimperator, luakit segfaults waay to much for actual use
[21:31] <binarymutant> might try http://surf.suckless.org out for full time use though, I never had a problem with it while playing with it
[23:02] <Unit193> wrst: I can kind of see why you like quassel, but there is no way I'm switching :P
[23:02] <Unit193> Link previews is kind of cool
[23:03] <wrst> Unit193: its pretty nice and its always on etc etc
[23:03] <wrst> so i likey
[23:04] <Unit193> Still like my irssi much better, but I knew this wasn't bad
[23:04] <Unit193> Xchat is only better because it has highlight ignore, this and irssi doesn't
[23:05] <wrst> no its not bad at all but as good of a pure client as irssi
[23:05] <Unit193> wrst: Anyway, I'm on it now (for now) while doing updates in the OS I never use :P
[23:07] <wrst> ha ha on winders?
[23:07] <binarymutant> highlight ignore?
[23:20] <Unit193> wrst: Kubuntu
[23:21] <Unit193> binarymutant: Yep, disable a bot from highlighting you
[23:21] <binarymutant> hmm
[23:21] <wrst> ohh Unit193 why you in kubuntu? :)
[23:22] <Unit193> Because I'm updating it and upgrading to Oneiric on it
[23:22] <wrst> ahh nice Unit193
[23:23] <Unit193> I don't actually use it
[23:23] <Unit193> Eh, irssi is a bit easier...
[23:25] <Unit193> wrst: irssi-proxy = :D
[23:25] <wrst> Unit193: irssi-proxy?
[23:26] <Unit193> Quassel is running through irssi (when I send a message there, it shows up as sent from here)
[23:26] <wrst> ahh cool Unit193 very cool
[23:26] <Unit193> And I just switched back (Will be back in quassel in a sec)
[23:30] <wrst> nice
[23:37] <Unit193> Getting backlog is harder :/
[23:39] <Unit193> This is the best I can see http://wouter.coekaerts.be/irssi/proxy_backlog  (Mind you, I don't even know why I'm looking this up as I like irssi as the client, not bouncer :P )