[00:00] <spikebike> Pici: cool, thanks
[00:00] <magik_> can somebody helps with madwifi installation ?
[00:00] <spikebike> I don't mind the unity bar on the left, but the bar at the top is ugly/insane
[00:00] <spikebike> I feel like I'm playing landmines trying to avoid windows so I can get to the menu for each different app
[00:00] <bailies> Pici do you know how I can install sun java if I already have oneiric partners in my source list and its still not showing up?
[00:01] <magik_> anybody ?! :S ?!
[00:01] <spikebike> don't to mention who needs a 3600 pixel wide menu bar that has something but 3-4 drop downs
[00:01] <j4r00tn> can't you just use synaptic to search for madwifi driver?
[00:02] <simpleblue> j4r00tn, not funny
[00:02] <j4r00tn> that's what I did when I added it... or maybe because I'm using backtrack
[00:02] <agronholm> so, the synaptic package manager was removed in 11.10 with no equivalent replacement
[00:03] <j4r00tn> ahh that's why
[00:03] <agronholm> how do I install individual packages graphically?
[00:03] <graingert> agronholm: ubuntu software center
[00:03] <simpleblue> anyone tried kubuntu?
[00:03] <magik_> j4r00tn: no .. couse i have to replace ath9k with it ..
[00:03] <agronholm> graingert: I have it open
[00:03] <mongo> hrm, network-manager still blows away /etc/resolv.conf even when managed=false
[00:03] <agronholm> graingert: but I can't figure it out
[00:03] <graingert> agronholm: flail your search term
[00:03] <graingert> into the box
[00:04] <Moc> having audio sync issue with vlc though
[00:04] <graingert> click install on all the buttons you see
[00:04] <Riddell> simpleblue: sure
[00:04] <agronholm> graingert: I wanted to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[00:04] <graingert> apt://http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bZ0xa94H
[00:04] <agronholm> it did not come up in search
[00:04] <graingert> oops
[00:04] <ian_mac> was synaptic removed by defaultt?  or removed completely?
[00:04] <graingert> apt://ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[00:04] <agronholm> by default
[00:04] <coraxx> has anybody been able to get Oneiric to work on on Asus UX50 ... or at least with the nVidia G105m graphics adapter ?
[00:04] <Iron> agronholm, install the restricted-extras from the software center
[00:05] <simpleblue> i'm trying to decide if i want to try kubuntu given the issues i have in unity or just move to another distro :/
[00:05] <cuppsy> Anyone having Broadcom wifi issues with 11.10? I couldn't connect to wifi (normally use STA) when booting the live CD. Wanted to ask before I install it tonight.
[00:05] <agronholm> Iron: search comes up with nothing for restricted-extras
[00:05] <spikebike> what is the giant menu bar at the top of menu called?
[00:05] <spikebike> what is the giant menu bar at the top of the screen called?
[00:05] <teolicy> Hi. I saw 11.10 is distributed as a hybrid ISO/USB image. Can I simply dd the image onto a USB stick I have lying about?
[00:05] <cuppsy> @spikebike The global menu
[00:05] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: what issues do you have in unity?
[00:06] <Iron> agronholm, try Ubuntu Restricted Extras
[00:06] <spikebike> cuppsy: thanks
[00:06] <benjamin_> hello all :)
[00:06] <benjamin_> does anyone know if you just have linux if you can run WoW
[00:06] <coraxx> benjamin_: hello benjamin_
[00:06] <jrib> !appdb | benjamin_
[00:07] <simpleblue> zmbmartin, the mouse will disappear at random times. that is, you can still select things. and sometimes the screen will freeze and i'll have to reboot. also, the killer, qt creator version is not set correctly
[00:07] <spikebike> cool echo "export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0" > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/81ubuntumenuproxy sounds promising
[00:07] <agronholm> Iron: that did the trick, thx
[00:07] <magik_> so , can anybody helps ?
[00:07] <jrib> !Helpme | magik_
[00:07] <WinCamXP> benjamin_: I've seen a YouTube video of it working, but it probably requires a lot of configuration and might not work on all machines...
[00:07] <benjamin_> i read that guide and i got error 132
[00:07] <Iron> Guys, I am having an error when trying to activate the "post-release updates" FGLRX driver, it says the installation failed ...
[00:07] <agronholm> graingert: also, where do I put that apt:// ... url? tried the search box, didn't do a thing
[00:07] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: wow that is lame. I haven't seen those problems at all.
[00:07] <new2net> My ocelot upgrade failed miserably. Can't startx at all. The package manager froze so I restarted in the middle of the upgrade. Upon loading the OS it ate crap so I dropped down to a root shell and ran dpkg --configure -a (to hopefully finish the install). That worked, so I killed gdm and restarted the xserver. Since I didn't want to be root I just restarted. Now i'm completely stuck using 11.04 off a USB. Please advise >.<
[00:07] <Iron> agronholm, no problem
[00:07] <graingert> agronholm: firefox
[00:07] <simpleblue> yeah zmbmartin, * sigh *
[00:08] <magik_> thanks -.-
[00:08] <jrib> new2net: you should continue the upgrade with apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:08] <agronholm> graingert: I mean, don't I get a list of all installed packages from software-center?
[00:08] <simpleblue> i may have to just switch for now, but i really like ubuntu because of it packages
[00:08] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: sorry, what graphics card do you have? ubuntu version?
[00:08] <cuppsy> Anyone with Broadcom have wifi issues with the live CD? Can't connect (loops connecting repeatedly) and that's got me hesitant to install.
[00:08] <coraxx> benjamin_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=23352
[00:08] <Iron> anyone had the same output? => Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[00:08] <simpleblue> nvidia, i installed the recommended driver
[00:09] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: 11.10?
[00:09] <simpleblue> yes, 64 bit
[00:09] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: fresh install or upgrade?
[00:10] <new2net> jrib: The splash screen shows up, then it drops down to ~tty except it is "checking battery life" and gets hung up on this (I'm using a desktop).
[00:10] <simpleblue> fresh install
[00:10] <bailies> how I can install sun java if I already have oneiric partners in my source list and its still not showing up?
[00:11] <new2net> jrib: I have grub which lets me boot into recovery mode, which is basically useless and allows for read-only access.
[00:11] <simpleblue> it just might be this microsoft wireless mouse, but in other distros its been fine
[00:11] <thorn> I have a glitch that keeps repeating itself. See http://imm.io/ahBs for an example. This never happened before with previous releases of ubuntu, only with 11.04. it seems to have to do with text rendering and window drawing... how can I reset this when it happens without restarting? How can I fix it altogether? can someone give me an idea of how to google this problem?
[00:11] <Iron> bailies, go for the Restricted Extras and it will install all you need
[00:11] <coraxx> benjamin_: I'm sure I can help, but if you include your "setup" in your question, someone might be able to.
[00:11] <coraxx> benjamin_: * I'm not sure
[00:11] <benjamin_> I installed the Cataclysm
[00:11] <benjamin_> version
[00:12] <Iron> going for reboot
[00:12] <moljac024a> unity2d uses compiz?
[00:12] <coraxx> benjamin_: ok... but which ubuntu version ?...which graphics-card ? ...which Wine version ?
[00:12] <itaylor57> bailies, you need to enter sudo apt-get upgrade after you add the partners to your source list. then it should show up
[00:12] <grim4593> whelp. The upgrade process broke parts of openssl and proftpd/dovecot would not load.
[00:12] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: is it random or do you notice it when you do specific things?
[00:13] <Douggle> anyone else noticing that the repos for oneiric are a bit slow atm does that have to do with it being new?
[00:13] <benjamin_> oh sorry. Ubuntu Natty. Wine 1.3
[00:13] <haddock_> hmm. so Postler is included in the softwarecenter, but even in the Oneiric there is a problem with webkit.
[00:13] <grim4593> yeah it is slow from being new
[00:13] <Tru3fate> yes its slow here too
[00:13] <kcj> naezol93
[00:13] <simpleblue> i'm trying to make it do this again... its happened about half a dozen times already though
[00:13] <kcj> I hate unity.
[00:13] <Tru3fate> it jump buts its possibly because alot of user are upgrading
[00:13] <Douggle> ok ty i wasnt sure
[00:14] <kcj> Now I have to change my password.
[00:14] <Douggle> is there a way to revert the unity iface?
[00:14] <Douggle> to go back to a regular gnome?
[00:14] <Tru3fate> Theres always a way
[00:14] <itaylor57> !notunity | Douggle
[00:15] <Douggle> ty :)
[00:15] <qmanjr5> How do I get the right-click option to open as administrator?
[00:16]  * spikebike ponders the correlation between decreasing ubuntu popularity and unity
[00:16] <david_> trying to get phpmyadmin going and get this message "Cannot load mysqli extension. Please check your PHP configuration" . Where do I configure for mysqli? I've cheked and php works, apache2 works and mysql is ok. thanks for any help ...been hours searching myself on internet
[00:16] <Douggle> as soon as i finish installing wine i m a do that.
[00:16] <Douggle> lol
[00:16] <qmanjr5> david_, go to the #phpmyadmin channel.
[00:17] <somsip> david_: sudo apt-get php5-mysqli should do it automatically
[00:17] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: Not sure if this will help --> http://www.giannistsakiris.com/index.php/2007/12/20/ubuntu-mouse-pointer-is-randomly-disappearing/
[00:18] <simpleblue> thanks zmbmartin, i'm checking it out now
[00:18] <ChogyDan> david_: have you tried: `sudo apt-get install lamp-server^`?
[00:19] <kcj> Err. E: firmware-b43-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[00:19] <bodom> david_: Do as they suggested, then restart apache
[00:19] <simpleblue> the article is about 4 years old :s
[00:19] <torror> Sysinfo does not recognize my display adapter but nvidia config software does. and i am not able to activate unity 3d :(
[00:19] <somsip> bodom: apache2 restarts after php5.ini is updated as part of install. He may need to restart browser though
[00:19] <simpleblue> i guess i would need to install the compiz setting manager to see if this was the case
[00:20] <compdoc> anyone else upgrade or install 11.10 and have their PS/2 keyboard stop working?
[00:20] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: yeah but someone just last year in the comments said it helped
[00:20] <earthnative> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  <-- is this going to be updated? Is there somewhere else that ISO hashes exist that I can check my downloads against?
[00:20] <simpleblue> okay, i'll try
[00:20] <qmanjr5> w30, I ended up just reformatting my entire computer. :P There wasn't that much stuff I wanted to backup.
[00:20] <qmanjr5> How do I get the right-click option to open as administrator?
[00:20] <Pici> !hashes | earthnative
[00:21] <earthnative> pici: groovy! that didn't come up in my googling
[00:21] <thorn> Is now a good time to download the 11.10 iso?
[00:21] <kcj> I can't get b43-fwcutter installed (see above). Help please.
[00:21] <ChogyDan> How can I tell what percentage my battery is charged to?
[00:21] <Pici> earthnative: I have a bug filed for the latter page, but everyone seems to have a post-release hangover or something ;)
[00:21] <simpleblue> i'm installing the compiz setting manager right now
[00:21] <earthnative> lol. fair enough :)
[00:21] <mongo> thorn: just use the torrents, it will download quickly
[00:21] <ChogyDan> qmanjr5: why do you want that?
[00:22] <thorn> I know it will, but my concern is getting the up to date version. Or will the updates take care of that?
[00:22] <g33klover> what app neeeeerdz
[00:22] <ChogyDan> thorn: of course
[00:22] <bailies> itaylor57 its still not working :(( were you able to do it?
[00:22] <thorn> ok, while you guys are helping me, what should I do about video glitches that pop up when I run out of memory but then don't go away?
[00:22] <earthnative> it would be neat if every ubuntu ISO md5 ended (or started?) with the version number :)
[00:23] <qmanjr5> ChogyDan, 'cause it's easier than going through terminal.
[00:23] <mongo> hrm, I am guessing any ticket you open running gnome fallback will be closed as invalid right?
[00:23] <qmanjr5> and it was sudo apt-get install nautilus-gksu
[00:23] <earthnative> (yes, trivially possible)
[00:23] <kcj> What do I have to install to get Gnome 2.x back?
[00:23] <somsip> !notunity | kcj
[00:23] <Pici> kcj: A prior release of Ubuntu.  Gnome 2 is no longer supported by GNOME.
[00:23] <mongo> kcj: gnome-session-fallback
[00:24] <thorn> to see an example of my video glitches, check out this link: http://imm.io/ahBs
[00:24] <compdoc> thats a glitch alright
[00:24] <moljac024a> so is lightdm supposed to not allow loging into anything other than "Ubuntu" or is it a bug?
[00:25] <compdoc> thorn, you use onboard video, or a video card?
[00:25] <rhizmoe> hah, i was jsut going to ask what lightdm was
[00:25] <grim4593> (thorn): looks kind of neat actually.
[00:25] <rhizmoe> ugh, they use "forward" for a next button?
[00:25] <mongo> moljac024a: are you trying to log into another host?
[00:25] <rahul> Just upgraded to 11.10. Is there no kernel upgrade in new 11.10?
[00:26] <moljac024a> whatever i pick i get logged into ubuntu ala unity 3d all bells-and-whistles slowness
[00:26] <moljac024a> mongo: im trying to logon into unity2d
[00:26] <moljac024a> from the livecd
[00:26] <moljac024a> liveusb actually
[00:26] <porphyro> hey i have an asus 900 eee pc does anyone know where can i find updated drivers, acpi etc for ubuntu?   i'd like to be able to use the on/off switch and homekey
[00:26] <cbrowne> yeah, you can't get classic any more, unity 2D is just a non-accelerated version of Unity
[00:26] <moljac024a> is it hardwired for the ubuntu live user to only log into unity3d?
[00:26] <rahul> Just upgraded to 11.10. Is there no kernel upgrade in new 11.10?
[00:26] <graingert> porphyro: jupiter
[00:26] <earthnative> pici: http://www.finnie.org/software/vanityhash/   <-- for md5 hash fun :)
[00:27] <cbrowne> it's the same looks/feel just for older hardware
[00:27] <graingert> rahul: it goes to 3
[00:27] <porphyro> grainger: the planet jupiter?  :(
[00:27] <rahul> graingert: didnt get you!
[00:27] <graingert> rahul: okay
[00:27] <rahul> graingert: 3 means?
[00:27] <graingert> porphyro: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/jupiter-ubuntu-ppa-hardware-and-power.html
[00:28] <graingert> rahul: xbox kinect support, and some other small stuff
[00:28] <porphyro> grainger: oh!  thx! :D
[00:28] <rahul> I can't see the ubuntu classic in logon screen. is it no more?
[00:28] <simpleblue> zmbmartin, i disabled the 'hide mouse pointer option. hopefully thats all it needed.. thanks
[00:28] <graingert> rahul: GDM?
[00:28] <cbrowne> rahul, it is indeed no more. it was removed from 11.10
[00:28] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: let me know how it goes.
[00:28] <simpleblue> will do
[00:29] <rahul> graingert: yes.
[00:29] <moljac024a> anyone? whatever i pick lightdm just logs me into unity3d
[00:29] <cbrowne> moljac024a, it doesn't, it's logging you into unity3D or unity2D, you're just confusing unity2D with gnome classic (2.x)
[00:29] <moljac024a> cbrowne: no im not
[00:29] <kevonia> anybody upgrade to 11.10 yet
[00:29] <thorn> compdoc: I'm pretty sure it's onboard?
[00:29] <moljac024a> when  i enter echo $DESKTOP_SESSION into a terminal it spits out "Ubuntu"
[00:29] <rahul> cbrowne: Sad sad. :( It made me feel like a coder. the 3d and 2d is just gives u more user friendly look.
[00:30] <cbrowne> unity3D and unity2D are basically the same thing, they look and feel the same.  they're only different in terms of hardware requirements and some flashiness
[00:30] <new2net> kevonia: yeah, make sure you backup first
[00:30] <moljac024a> it should be "Ubuntu 2d" because thats what i chose damn it
[00:30] <moljac024a> and im pretty sure i know the difference between compiz and metacity
[00:30] <new2net> moljac024a, yeah... i choose gdm, surpise kdm
[00:30] <anthony> bigpook
[00:30] <compdoc> thorn, could be a memory problem then. WHen did this start happening?
[00:30] <moljac024a> for example, if my windows are transparent and they are animated i'm in compiz
[00:30] <cbrowne> moljac024a, it's called Unity 2D not Ubuntu 2D, and it does not use metacity
[00:31] <thorn> it happens on every computer in this office, though I admit they're pretty similar
[00:31] <kevonia> ok any  bugs os far
[00:31] <moljac024a> cbrowne: then what does it use?
[00:31] <moljac024a> when i tried unity2d in 11.04 it used metacity
[00:31] <rahul> What is the difference between 2d and the regular
[00:31] <moljac024a> and it's called "Ubuntu 2d" at the login prompt
[00:32] <nitrogen> Yo.  Anyone had issues with the Windows bootloader taking priority over GRUB on dual-boot setups?
[00:32] <porphyro> couldn'tlocate it via apt
[00:33] <compdoc> thorn, what OS do they run?
[00:33] <SIFTU> moljac024a: In Ubuntu 11.10, Unity 2D uses Metacity's XRender based compositor to achieve transparency effects
[00:33] <rahul> Is there any torrentz to ubuntu 11.10?
[00:33] <Pici> !torrents | rahul
[00:33] <moljac024a> SIFTU: is there a way to disable the compositor?
[00:33] <cbrowne> those links are wrong, ubottu
[00:34] <thomas644> yeah they're outdated
[00:34] <moljac024a> if the purpose is to enable it on older hardawre why do compositing damn it
[00:34] <SIFTU> moljac024a: no idea, i dont run ubuntu
[00:34] <Pici> cbrowne: oops. I didn't test them when I added them.  I'll fix
[00:34] <cbrowne> because it does compositing in software, moljac024a, instead of on hardware
[00:34] <rahul> How to download a torrent file from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/
[00:34] <moljac024a> cbrowne: oh
[00:34] <moljac024a> thats nice t hear
[00:34] <rahul> I couldnt see any torrent file in http://torrent.ubuntu.com/
[00:34] <MJBrune> hi, I installed gparted and I wanted to format a drive into hfs+ for my mac but it doesn't allow it even though I have the libs installed.
[00:34] <MJBrune> any ideas why this isn't working
[00:34] <moljac024a> its slow as unity 3d but itdoes it in software!
[00:35] <moljac024a> anyway i cant even get to unity 2d
[00:35] <jdahm> I just upgraded to 11.04->11.10.  nautilus keeps trying to start and then crashes when I try to open desktop icons.  Is there a way to keep this from starting up altogther?
[00:35] <moljac024a> it just logs me into unity 3d
[00:35] <cbrowne> moljac024a, are you -sure-? they are both composited, as we just established, so how are you telling the difference?
[00:35] <moljac024a> cbrowne: log in to unity 2d
[00:36] <moljac024a> and paste the output from "echo $DESKTO_SESSON"
[00:36] <moljac024a> please
[00:36] <ChogyDan> what is unity2d?  How can I use it?  will it use less power?
[00:36] <soreau> I'm getting 404 from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/oneiric/desktop/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[00:36] <soreau> ! torrents
[00:37] <cbrowne> soreau, I said the torrents were wrong, Pici said he'd fix the links, be patient
[00:37] <OerHeks> soreau, try http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[00:37] <ChogyDan> soreau: the version number is wrong, it needs updating
[00:37] <Pici> !torrents
[00:37] <scampbell> I wish they wouldn't pop up the upgrade box with the Upgrade Now button already highlighted.  I already know two people who got hosed by mouse/keyboard on systems that didn't have monitors turned on.
[00:37] <moljac024a> cbrowne: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
[00:37] <Tru3fate> how can i link my gmail calendar with ubuntu calendar
[00:37] <rahul> ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent and ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[00:38] <rahul> what is the difference
[00:38] <rahul> ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent and ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent what is the difference?
[00:38] <thomas644> scampbell: what about the confirmation dialog?
[00:38] <grim4593> desktop is the live cd install
[00:38] <compdoc> scampbell, hosed in what way?
[00:38] <Pici> rahul: One is the alternate installer, the other is the regular live CD and installer.
[00:38] <moljac024a> rahul:  alternate is text based install
[00:38] <zjo> Has ubuntu fixed switchable graphics issue? I want to dual boot ubuntu on my laptop but it drains my battery when it uses my laptops ATI card as opposed to the onbard card.
[00:38] <grim4593> alternate lets you install the server version and uses ncurses
[00:38] <cbrowne> moljac024a, I'm not on 11.10, I'm an LTS server guy and my desktop can afford to wait a few days before being upgraded
[00:38] <CrzyMiky> hi guys: running ubuntu 10.04. at some point before V9.x my virtual console switching worked.. now it doesnt. I have an Nvidia card. help. thanks.
[00:38] <Nieros> I just rolled up to 11.10... and it broke :|
[00:38] <Nieros> hahaha
[00:39] <rahul> Pici: moljac024a Didn't get you people. what are pros and cons of both?
[00:39] <scampbell> They got upgraded without supporting secondary repos.  It shouldn't be just press return a couple times or push the mouse button a couples times for such a major thing. It should require you actually select that box, not preselected.
[00:39] <cbrowne> anyway, if you're that bothered why don't you write your own session?
[00:39] <Pici> rahul: Both install the same version.
[00:39] <Pici> !alternate | rahul
[00:39] <grim4593> Mine wwent ok except for openssl broke and took my ftp and mail daemons with it.
[00:39] <Nieros> I boot up, and I get a nice flashing screen
[00:39] <compdoc> anyone else upgrade or install 11.10 and have their PS/2 keyboard stop working?
[00:40] <rahul> Pici: What is !alternate | rahul ?
[00:40] <Pici> rahul: look at the info from ubottu above.
[00:40] <Nieros> is there any clean way to just undo this roll up...
[00:40] <grim4593> restore the backup you made from just before the upgrade
[00:40] <ChogyDan> how do I know if I am using unity2d?
[00:41] <moljac024a> cbrowne: tail -n 20 /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | grep "Starting session" | cut -d ' ' -f5
[00:41] <moljac024a> when i run that command it says: "Ubuntu"
[00:41] <moljac024a> it should say "Ubuntu 2d"
[00:41] <cbrowne> moljac024a, obviously you know your way around the command-line, so stop whinging and fix it your damn self
[00:41] <moljac024a> but how do i fix it
[00:41] <zjo> Has ubuntu fixed switchable graphics issue? I want to dual boot ubuntu on my laptop but it drains my battery when it uses my laptops ATI card as opposed to the onbard card.
[00:41] <cbrowne> create a new session file that contains the correct startup commands
[00:42] <moljac024a> how do i login into another session when the damn display manager is bugged
[00:42] <moljac024a> oh im sorry
[00:42] <graingert> zjo: vga_switcheroo
[00:42] <moljac024a> ill just go write one that works
[00:42] <cbrowne> yeah, you do that
[00:42] <moljac024a> see you in a couple of months
[00:42] <moljac024a> thanks
[00:42] <salvadorfl> hi people
[00:42] <cbrowne> it's gonna take you months to write a 1KB file?
[00:42] <cbrowne> wow you're a slow typer
[00:42] <rikutake> i downloaded the adobeair installer, and im trying to install it. this command however does not work, what is it meant to do?  is there a typo? sudo ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
[00:42] <cbrowne> <1KB
[00:42] <moljac024a> im on the liveusb
[00:42] <salvadorfl> i kneed help i want to install gyachi in ubuntu oneiric but i cant
[00:42] <moljac024a> im not installing it until i try it out
[00:43] <salvadorfl> can some one help me?
[00:43] <moljac024a> looks like i wont be installing it when its bugged from day one
[00:43] <cbrowne> and that means you can't write session files?
[00:43] <moljac024a> seriously has anyone done any testing with this?
[00:43] <Hdale85> Hi guys, I'm trying to install an Nvidia GT520 with HDMI audio, I installed the latest nvidia driver from their website but I don't seem to have any sound devices still
[00:43] <cbrowne> moljac024a, what makes you think anybody would care if you didn't use ubuntu?
[00:43] <moljac024a> its not enough to display options, they have to work too
[00:43] <kcj> My wi-fi isn't working now with 11.10
[00:43] <Pici> cbrowne: If you're not going to be helpful here, then we'd appreciate not saying anything.  General chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:43] <moljac024a> i dont think anybody cares
[00:43] <Pici> moljac024a: What is the problem exactly?
[00:44] <moljac024a> last time i used ubuntu was 7.04
[00:44] <simpleblue> i wish qt-creator installed more dependancies
[00:44] <moljac024a> that isnt changing i see
[00:45] <jakemp> What's the easy way to add/change what directory the Dash in Unity?
[00:45] <salvadorfl> help me with gyachi
[00:45] <jakemp> all I've seen so far seems rediculously complicated
[00:45] <Pici> jakemp: change what directory the dash?
[00:46] <ta2dgeek> anyone have any good fixes for the flash issues (tearing for one)?
[00:46] <jakemp> Pici, looks at for executables
[00:46] <Nieros> Hrm, anyone point me in the right direction with what to investigate: I rolled up to 11.10 and I can see a grey (i assume 2d desktop) that keeps flashing.
[00:46] <Pici> jakemp: It should be the same as your $PATH
[00:46] <Nieros> makes me think Unity is broken
[00:46] <Nieros> or possbily the video drivers..
[00:46] <Pici> jakemp: Do I need to explain further?
[00:47] <jakemp> hmm, you're right Pici. I hadn't rebooted. But now I have the issue of wanting to be able of calling a script from the dash
[00:49] <RoDiMuS-X> Is there a way to tell if your still running Ubuntu Beta release
[00:50] <Pici> RoDiMuS-X: run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, if you don't get any updates, you're running the final product.
[00:50] <new2net> is there a hotkey for dropping down to a tty?  i thought it was CTRL+SHIFT+F1 or something like that
[00:50] <grim4593> ctrl+alt+F1
[00:50] <grim4593> or F2, F3, etc
[00:51] <Chaorain> I was trying to reformat my 11.04 and install 11.10 , I need the reformat. My screen just flashes red, green, blue and white. I still hear the log on sound effect
[00:51] <RoDiMuS-X> thanks Pici
[00:51] <thorn> compdoc: we're running 11.04 on everything, they're all older, with memory ranging from 500 MB to 1 GB.
[00:52] <rahul> They ubuntu alternate gives more support to h/w. What kinda support? Please.
[00:52] <compdoc> thorn, how can you use any of them?
[00:52] <Chaorain> any clue how to get around the color flashes
[00:52] <new2net> grim4593, thank you
[00:52] <rahul> They say ubuntu alternate gives more support to h/w. What kinda support? Please.
[00:52] <dw-> quakelive used to run now it crashes on startup, anyone familiar?
[00:53] <grim4593> np
[00:53] <xangua> rahul: is ubutnu, the same kernel, support is the same
[00:53] <Pici> rahul: Please ease up on the repeating.  It doesn't have a graphical environment at install time, so you don't need to worry about problematic graphics drivers at that time.  It also allows for install on lvm and raid
[00:54] <rahul> Pici:  The difference is just while installation?
[00:54] <leigh> can someone help me set up the sound on my laptop? it stopped working after an update
[00:54] <Pici> rahul: yes.
[00:54] <dw-> leigh: did it work before the update without a proprietary (download) driver?
[00:54] <leigh> yes
[00:55] <dw-> leigh: best bet is to check the startup logs... dmesg at prompt?
[00:55] <dw-> leigh: as root
[00:55] <leigh> ok and what am i looking for?
[00:55] <Chaorain> Is there anyway to start the live boot in a different graphics mode?
[00:55] <dw-> leigh: audio stuff
[00:55] <jadugar> everyone please stop your updates or installs of Ubuntu 11.10.  Thank you.
[00:55] <OerHeks> leigh, after the upgrade to 11.10 ?
[00:56] <leigh> ok
[00:56] <CSyncope> i'm using the gnome switcher to use xmonad as my window manager, and .xsession is not running, i've already chmod +x
[00:56] <gribouille> hi
[00:56] <dw-> leigh: actually i dont know what im doing theres nothing good in my dmesg
[00:56] <OerHeks> leigh removal of ~/.pulse & reboot did the trick to get my sound back
[00:57] <gribouille> X fails to start under oneiric
[00:57] <C-S-B> compress=lzo as an option for my btrfs home partition is not working, what am I doing wrong?
[00:57] <new2net> I was using gedit and restarted my machine with an unsaved document open. Any chance this document exists in the file system somewhere?
[00:57] <Chaorain> jadugar: is there a problem with 11.10?
[00:57] <magik_> somebody knows how to start my network becouse i restarted it ?
[00:57] <leigh> how do i do the removal of .pulse
[00:57] <jadugar> Chaorain: no, 11.10 is fine.  I just want my install/updates to go faster.
[00:58] <jadugar> :-D
[00:58] <gribouille> X fails to start under oneiric
[00:58] <dw-> leigh: open terminal rm ~/.pulse
[00:58] <leigh> ok one sec
[00:58] <crash1hd> ok so currently running ubuntu 11.10 and I logged into custom user choice on login there is no way to logout that I can see?
[00:58] <Chaorain> ah, I can't get into the live boot for my disc
[00:58] <mongo> jadugar: this is why you update the day before the release :) the mirrors were all fast yesterday
[00:59] <OerHeks> leigh, rm ~/.pulse and sometimes sound works without rebooot
[00:59] <leigh> its says it cant remove it
[00:59] <CSyncope> crash1hd: if you just need to log out open a terminal and type gnome-session-save --logout or --logoff, i can't remember
[00:59] <jadugar> mongo: yeah, I'll do that for 12.04.  I learned my lesson.
[00:59] <gribouille> X fails to start under oneiric
[00:59] <edlang> Hi --I've just installed ubuntu server 11.10 via a network install. There doesn't seem to be a tasksel item for the openstack / cloud computing packages. Am I missing something?
[01:00] <crash1hd> CSyncope, thats just it there doesnt seem to be anyway to open terminal or I would just do sudo reboot
[01:00] <new2net> How can I tell if I'm using Natty or Ocelot (from a terminal)?
[01:01] <jadugar> new2net: cat /etc/lsb-release
[01:01] <new2net> jadugar, Thank you
[01:01] <crash1hd> nevermind I just hardrebooted
[01:02] <leigh> OerHeks: rm isnt working
[01:02] <CSyncope> wow why do people join and leave this channel so much?
[01:02] <CSyncope> more than they actually talk
[01:02] <naveen> Hi, I am not able to Ubuntu 11.10 beta from Main Server
[01:02] <CSyncope> crash1hd: have you tried just pressing the power button on your computer and seeing if it displays the shutdown options
[01:02] <tester5366> Just a FYI, the guest session enabled by default is one of the most retarded things ever done by ubuntu
[01:02] <CSyncope> crash1hd: modern computers don't have a mechanical power button, so just pressing it once wont shut it off
[01:03] <crash1hd> It might have but I have already rebooted it
[01:04] <ChogyDan> [q] how do I see what percentage my battery is charged?
[01:04] <simpleblue> okay, i got qt-creator to work. apparently they don't include all the dependancies when you install it
[01:04] <pitlimit> I'm trying to install openafs-client... what do I type for "AFS cell this workstation belongs to"
[01:04] <CSyncope> i can't get xsession to run in a custom session
[01:05] <naveen> Can someon give me the content of source.list of Ubuntu 11.10
[01:05] <naveen> ?
[01:06] <Moc> Ok, Gnome 3 getting on my nerve now !
[01:06] <Moc> but seem like it a crappy ubuntu integration
[01:06] <jadugar> naveen: you might have to wait a while.  The servers are very busy now
[01:06] <naveen> ah ok
[01:06] <Moc> let hope 10.10 download is fast !
[01:07] <mongo> Moc: install gnome-session-fallback
[01:07] <naveen> jadugar: I think I have changed my source.list , can you share your source.list. I will wait after that
[01:07] <Moc> mongo: I did... I guess I should try this one again
[01:07] <simpleblue> does the compizconfig settings manager actually change the settings of unity
[01:08] <Moc> gnome 3 is fine except for a few things that is really annoying... it still better than unity
[01:08] <simpleblue> i tried changing the size of the icons and there is no change
[01:08] <mongo> I am going to have to write single sign on for AD and xfce I guess, unity is painful to use if you are not a mouse user
[01:10] <mongo> alt-tab not being LIFO is painful
[01:11] <CSyncope> what is all this join/part spam?
[01:11] <jadugar> CSyncope: have your IRC client filter it out
[01:11] <V-ille> how can I get compiz negative effect to work on 11.10?
[01:11] <deebee_> CSyncope: filter it out if it annoys you
[01:11] <mongo> I can't be the only person who uses alt tab to switch between multiple windows on teh same app
[01:12] <jamescarr_> why do I get a permission denied when doing this?
[01:12] <jamescarr_> sudo echo deb http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org/repo/ubuntu-upstart >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <soreau> ! tee | jamescarr_
[01:12] <soreau> huh
[01:12] <Ttech> !tee
[01:12] <Ttech> does not seem to be a valid factoid
[01:13] <soreau> jamescarr_: You want to use tee instead..
[01:13] <jamescarr_> echo "echo deb http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org/repo/ubuntu-upstart >> /etc/apt/sources.list" | sudo sh
[01:14] <soreau> jamescarr_: anyway, what are you trying to do exactly?
[01:14] <jamescarr_> I'm not trying
[01:14] <jamescarr_> it's done
[01:14] <Moc> mongo: urm... LOT better
[01:14] <SadlyMistaken> When I burn CD or DVDs to my friends... they always tell me "You didn't burn anything here", but I can read my CDs... ¿Why people with windows can't read my Cds?
[01:14] <mongo> jamescarr_: yes, sudo privlages don't cross input/output redirection
[01:15] <TrueFX> hi guy
[01:15] <TrueFX> s
[01:15] <openam> does anyone know what version of PostgreSQL ubuntu 11.10 has?
[01:15] <TrueFX> i got a problem
[01:15] <mongo> Moc: a pitty it will be gone soon, I don't care about the menu but dumping simple things like how alt-tab works is a PITA
[01:16] <OerHeks> !postgresql
[01:16] <deebee_> openam: apt-cache show postgresql
[01:16] <V-ille> most every other compiz thing works, but negative doesn't work with any shortcut I tried
[01:16] <Moc> mongo: I agree... the alt-tab is really annoying ! I binded the alt-/ for window switching... But it still not good
[01:16] <MeanEYE> I have nVidia driver installed and working but instead of compiz unity2d is starting by default. Any solution to that?
[01:16] <xtjacob> Is it possible to upgrade linux mint 11 to ubuntu 11.10 by adding ubuntu repositories?
[01:16] <SadlyMistaken> TrueFX: just ask
[01:16] <Moc> trying to get banshee music icon integration back
[01:17] <cgroza> Hello. I am using gnome-terminal in Unity. Is there a way to disable menubar shortcuts because it interferes with my emacs key sequences?
[01:17] <xangua> xtjacob: bad idea mix epositories and mint is not supported here
[01:17] <openam> deebee_:  i'm on 11.04 and want PostgreSQL 9+ for a current project.  If 11.10 has it by default I'll upgrade now, otherwise I'll just build from source.
[01:17] <xtjacob> Alright, I was just curious since it was based off ubuntu
[01:17] <jamescarr_> mongo, you should install mongodb
[01:17] <simpleblue> brb
[01:18] <deebee_> openam: ok, then yes, it does. 9.1.
[01:18] <TrueFX> im running ubuntu on vmare worstation windows 7 x64 as host ubuntu as guest. I have just tried to make icons visible on desktop using gconf-editor apps/nautilus/desktop and appropriate clicks suddenly a few hundred " Starting File Manager" icon is opend in tray. I have log out and log in. Same thing keeps on happinng. Mouse cursor is busy. I can't do anything. I cant even launch a terminal to kill pss. what to do ?
[01:18] <simpleblue> if compiz settings manager screwed up my ubuntu, i'll be very sad
[01:18] <MeanEYE> I have nVidia driver installed and working but instead of compiz unity2d is starting by default. Any solution to that?
[01:18] <Hdale85> if I wanted to upgrade to kernel 2.6.38-11.50 do I just install the kernel image?
[01:18] <openam> deebee_:  thanks
[01:18] <Hdale85> it's not marking anymore packages then that
[01:18] <rchavik> hi... is gnome classic gone from 11.10 ?
[01:19] <deebee_> openam: but a quick google would have done the trick - http://packages.ubuntu.com/pt/oneiric/postgresql
[01:20] <Centigonal> Hello there!
[01:20] <xangua> !nounity | rchavik
[01:20] <thorn> hi there, so I'm working for a non-profit, and I have some older computers with 500 MB to 1000MB of RAM, and I keep getting video glitches when I get close to running out of memory. I don't think we have any actual video cards. If someone would please help me, that would be great. If you want a pic of an example of the glitching, which doesn't go away, I can give a link to a pic.
[01:20] <Moc> mongo: wee, even got pidgin to show in the tray bar !
[01:20] <Centigonal> I want to run Ubuntu in a VM on a 64 bit host OS. Should I use the 32bit or the 64bit version?
[01:20] <V-ille> ok, negative magically started working
[01:20] <V-ille> weird
[01:20]  * rchavik tips his hats to xangua
[01:21] <openam> deebee_:  I did one and found this http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu which made me think it might have it, but it didn't state 11.10  I guess I should have read a few more links.  Thanks.
[01:21] <xangua> !lubuntu
[01:21] <Moc> Centigonal: I always go 64bit now
[01:21] <xangua> thorn: low resources¿ try lubuntu
[01:21] <TrueFX> Centigonal, np chose whatever u like
[01:21] <danielboston26> whats the command to umount my hard drive?
[01:21] <Centigonal> Moc: So no serious compatibility issues?
[01:21] <SetiAmon> fetching file 1040 of 1700 hah,it isn't even showing download rate anymore
[01:21] <Centigonal> I remember back in the Hardy days, 64 bit had lots of issues with flash :P
[01:21] <soreau> danielboston26: Why are you trying to unmount your hard drive?
[01:22] <Hdale85> nevermind I got it
[01:22] <Moc> Centigonal: I never did... but all the stuff I use are 64bit compatible
[01:22] <danielboston26> so i can run fsck
[01:22] <Centigonal> Excellent!
[01:22] <Centigonal> :D
[01:22] <Centigonal> Thanks!
[01:22] <Moc> Centigonal: if you have some crappy driver that is 32bit only... maybe 32bit is better.. but if your host is 64bit... run 64bit
[01:22] <SetiAmon> why doesn't a x64 distro just use x32 files by default like in windows?just curious
[01:23] <danielboston26> soreau just upgraded to 11.10 its telling me theres something wrong with the drive so i want to run fsck
[01:23] <TrueFX> Centigonal, u may have some compatibility issues in 64 bit operating systems be warned but i still use 64 bit windows 7 64 bit ubuntu and bareMetal operating system which is entirely written in x64 assembly.
[01:23] <soreau> danielboston26: Do it from a live cd
[01:23] <soreau> or..
[01:23] <deebee_> SetiAmon: you can't run 32 bit drivers on x64 windows, it's only user mode 32 bits apps that work
[01:23] <soreau> ! fsck
[01:24] <SetiAmon> thats what i mean x32 apps i haven't yet ran on linux.but i figure i'm going to have to as i want to get some emulators to work
[01:24] <Gunz4MiPPle> I have no sound after the upgrade
[01:24] <brianl> If I was using the beta 2 of 11.10, do i need to do anymore to upgrade to the official supported version other then update/upgrade?
[01:24] <xangua> SetiAmon: if you need to, you can install the 32bit library stuff to run 32bit apps on 64bit ubuntu
[01:24] <SetiAmon> sound always breaks after kernel upgrades for me.you using OSS?
[01:25] <xangua> brianl: if you have al updates, yes
[01:25] <xangua> welcome to 11.10
[01:25] <D_Russ> 11.10 is it still #ubuntu+1 to discuss
[01:25] <brianl> xangua, okay, thanks ;/
[01:25] <deebee_> D_Russ: No, this channel is now where it's at :)
[01:25] <simpleblue> okay, i've effectively messed up unity and now can only use unity 2d
[01:25] <danielboston26> thanks soreau
[01:25] <brianl> xangua, it still savs developmental branch under my login though..
[01:25] <D_Russ> cool
[01:26] <simpleblue> is there any way to reset the compiz settings
[01:26] <bailies> how I can install sun java if I already have oneiric partners in my source list and its still not showing up?
[01:26] <xangua> simpleblue: tried¿: unity --reset
[01:26] <simpleblue> no, but i will, thanks
[01:26] <D_Russ> so is anyone reporting any major issues with 11.10 ?
[01:27] <xangua> bailies: you can install openjdk7, sun/oracle java is no longer in ubuntu repositories i believe
[01:27] <simpleblue> brb
[01:27] <xangua> bailies: i also saw a post on omg!ubuntu! blog to add a third party repository and install oracle/sun java
[01:27] <soreau> ! java | bailies
[01:28] <kang_> hello
[01:28] <nieros> hrm
[01:28] <jtomasrl> i cant upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 i get conection errorss
[01:29] <simpleblue> unity --reset didn't work
[01:29] <nieros> So i get my gui if I manually start gdm.
[01:29] <nieros> but it's 2d.
[01:29] <david_> Does anyone know best C++ ide for linux for learning programming?
[01:29] <nieros> this is borked
[01:29] <simpleblue> david i find qt-creator to be the best
[01:30] <zmbmartin> simpleblue: did you get things working.
[01:30] <deebee_> david_: Eclipse for C++ developers is an option
[01:30] <padhu> david_: Code::blocks
[01:30] <david_> simpleblue what are your thoughts on codeblocks?
[01:30] <Centigonal> If I may make a suggestion, I found it easier to learn programming starting with a higher level language and working down :)
[01:30] <Moc> mongo: you have vlc video sync issue É
[01:30] <simpleblue> actually codeblocks may be better. i like qt-creator better but i may be a tiny bit confusing to start with
[01:31] <rhizmoe> ok, my display isn't being detected on upgrade. 1024 here.
[01:31] <deebee_> jtomasrl: the servers are very busy at the moment. try changing your mirror
[01:31] <ChogyDan> Anyone know how to tell if I have been bit by the linux power consumption bug?  Lucid livecd refuses to boot, so I can't really test, but i _think_ it is using more power
[01:31] <simpleblue> zmbmartin, not yet. i've screwed things up bigtime with the compiz settings manager
[01:31] <Scrambler> Unity Blows!
[01:31] <Scrambler> :)
[01:31] <david_> Ill stick with codeblocks for now and just mess around with QT on the side.
[01:32] <rhizmoe> hmm, is my 1024 display resolution because the monitor isn't being detected, or is it a card thign?
[01:32] <rhizmoe> no icons for gedit or terminal, either
[01:32] <jtomasrl> deebee_: how do i change my mirrors
[01:32] <david_> Scrambler why do you think unity blows?(BTW I launch classic)
[01:32] <simpleblue> the one thing that makes qt-creator rock is all the example programs. it has probably over 100 and the all seems to work!
[01:33] <david_> just want to here your thoughts\
[01:33] <ChogyDan> !ot | david_
[01:33] <Scrambler> I use Ubuntu for work, and Unity is too hard to get your apps arrange fast, and I don't need all the fancy gui effects.
[01:33] <deebee_> jtomasrl: in Update Manager, click "Settings..." at the bottom. It's in there.
[01:33] <simpleblue> david_ what books are you reading to learn C++?
[01:33] <xangua> !nounity | Scrambler
[01:33] <xangua> or use xfce / kde
[01:33] <jtomasrl> deebee_: ;)
[01:34] <longcatisloooooo> Umm... I just upgraded my grandma's laptop running LUbuntu to 11.10, and now the unity interface is the default. How do I correct this?
[01:34] <Centigonal> that's one sweet bot :)
[01:34] <determinology> Does anyone know how to get the 1 click to desktop on 11.10 using gnome shell classic?
[01:34] <Scrambler> I tried to install 11.10 today on 2 machines and one wouldn't boot at all, and the laptop kept locking up.  Put Gnome 3 on the laptop, but you can't move the launcher items around, and the date is right smack in the middle of the launcher bar
[01:35] <Scrambler> I run 11.04 on all my machines without issue, and use ubuntu classic, no effects.
[01:35] <rhizmoe> do i need to reinstall nouveau for 11.10 by hand?
[01:35] <longcatisloooooo> Scrambler Hit the right control button
[01:35] <ChogyDan> Scrambler: can you take it to offtopic?
[01:36] <torror> installed synaptic in 11.10 but it just crash if i select filters or try to apply changes
[01:36] <torror> 11.10 64 bit
[01:36] <chintan> need help in partition
[01:37] <david_> Simpleblue I use C++ Programming Program Design and Data Structures by D.S. Malik, but I really use online resources mainly.
[01:37] <xangua> determinology: you mean nautilus to show icons and contro the desktop¿¿ saw a post about it this morning on omg!ubuntu! blog
[01:37] <simpleblue> i haven't heard of them, but i'm just getting into C++ myself
[01:37] <MeanEYE> Why is my system always startin Unity2D instead of 3D version when I have nVidia drivers installed?
[01:37] <chintan> hey
[01:38] <chintan> someone here to help in partition ?
[01:38] <deebee_> simpleblue: would recommend Bruce Eckel's C++ books. They're available online for free too
[01:38] <deebee_> simpleblue: but we're getting a bit off topic :)
[01:38] <Moc> that fixed my problem on 11.10 too : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11191564
[01:38] <somsip> !notunity | longcatisloooooo
[01:38] <simpleblue> deebee, i'll check them out. currently i'm reading C++ primer plus
[01:39] <simpleblue> okays, sorry
[01:39] <david_> HOW is that book?
[01:40] <determinology> Xan remember when you could click a button and it would goto the desktop from anywhere
[01:40] <MeanEYE> Why is my system always startin Unity2D instead of 3D version when I have nVidia drivers installed?
[01:40] <deebee_> simpleblue: I'm not the boss, I'm just pre-empting the warning from a mod :) These are the books - http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html
[01:42] <new2net> I am trying to get a fresh install of 10.04 but am warned that the partition manager is having trouble and advised to check my /var/log/syslog for more info -->  Oct 14 01:16:29 ubuntu ubiquity[23785]: OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/lib/partman/devices'
[01:43] <Iszak> Anyone know how to install sun java on Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:43] <Iszak> it's no longer in the partner repo, ppa? or do I have to download from the site?
[01:44] <xangua> Iszak: is not, you can install openjdk7 but if you want oracle/sun java just saw a post on omg!ubuntu! blog
[01:45] <Iszak> xangua, is open JDK a complete implementation of sun java?
[01:45] <xangua> Iszak: is the free part
[01:46] <Iszak> can't find anything om OMG Ubuntu!
[01:46] <xangua> free, open source¿ don't remember exactly; let's say floss
[01:46] <almoxarife> Iszak: the headless is missing I think
[01:46] <Flynsarmy> How do you enable the nouveau 3d drivers in 11.10?
[01:46] <Iszak> Think I'll stick with Sun Java for now.
[01:46] <MeanEYE> Can anyone tell me where I can find blacklist unity is using?
[01:47] <Iszak> xangua, ah you must have meant webupd8
[01:47] <keith_linux123> thanks to all the devs on this realease
[01:47] <almoxarife> Flynsarmy: why not the nvidia-current ?
[01:47] <rdk> has anyone had luck getting 11.10 to work with dual monitors and ati restricted drivers?  I keep making the selection in the catalyst control panel, and it keeps reverting back to cloned.
[01:47] <xangua> Iszak: 10 things to do after install 11.10, it's there on omgubuntu
[01:47] <keith_linux123> i haven't felt this happy since i first used ubuntu 5 years agao
[01:47] <xangua> well i follow both but saw it first on omg ;) Iszak
[01:48] <Flynsarmy> almoxarife: I remembered using them in 11.04 and was quite happy with them. they're apparently installed by default in 11.10 however they don't appear in the 'restricted drivers' list and they're not enabled by default
[01:48] <rhizmoe> apt-get update is complaining that it's already running?
[01:48] <Flynsarmy> almoxarife: they make switching in and out of dual screen mode alot easier
[01:48] <rhizmoe> grr
[01:48] <Iszak> xangua, link?
[01:48] <new2net> Sorry if I wasn't clear.  Should I just proceed with the install or is that a serious error?
[01:48] <rhizmoe> is that the "aptd" b.s.?
[01:48] <kzman> is it possible start ubuntu oineric with no unity ?
[01:48] <xangua> Iszak: ooh sorry, you were right, it's on webupd8 ;)
[01:48] <almoxarife> Flynsarmy: there is a ppa from nvidia you need to load
[01:48] <CrunchyChewie> there is a major, major bug still present with intel WiFi
[01:48] <Iszak> xangua, similar site :P
[01:48] <xangua> !nounity | kzman
[01:49] <CrunchyChewie> and this may be more of a kernel issue
[01:49] <CrunchyChewie> I dont know
[01:49] <hyperair> hi. is there a way i can disable alt+`?
[01:49] <kzman> xangua, thank you
[01:49] <hyperair> in unity i mean
[01:49] <Flynsarmy> almoxarife: aha! i didn't have nouveau-firmware installed
[01:50] <CrunchyChewie> on newer kernels, the iwl6000 intel wifi will actively crash AP's it connects to
[01:50] <Douggle> it is so nice to NOT use unity lol
[01:51] <ian_mac> I would think that if a client can crash an AP there is an issue with the AP, no?
[01:51] <Flynsarmy> almoxarife: I installed nouveau-firmware however it's still not in my restricted drivers list. how can I enable it?
[01:51] <CrunchyChewie> ian_mac: nope, dig in Google a little bit and it is a known issue
[01:52] <CrunchyChewie> I have tested it on 3 different router models
[01:52] <ian_mac> wouldn't that be a DoS vulnerability then?
[01:52] <rdk> seems like dual monitors doesn't work with ati drivers
[01:52] <CrunchyChewie> ian_mac: oh yea
[01:52] <CrunchyChewie> I could drive through campus and destroy any free hotspots
[01:53] <chintan> anyone help me ?
[01:53] <chintan> i already told 2 times to help
[01:53] <chintan> but noone intrested
[01:53] <xangua> chintan: and still you say nothing about your problem
[01:53] <almoxarife> Flynsarmy: google 'nvidia-current' for the ppa
[01:54] <chintan> i need help in partition
[01:54] <rhizmoe> use "auto"
[01:54] <Flynsarmy> almoxarife: nvidia-current are hte proprietry ones. they're in the restricted drivers list and i can turn them on. im after nouveau ones though
[01:54] <rhizmoe> dedicated /
[01:54] <chintan> means ?
[01:54] <deebee_> chintan: in IRC, you just explain the details of your problem, and someone will reply if they know the answer
[01:54] <soreau> rdk: Should work. What card is it?
[01:54] <thorn> Lubuntu isn't a substitute for Ubuntu for me, though people seem to recommend it for my low memory computers. Can someone tell me what's going on when my computers run out of memory and the video glitches? I can link to a screenshot if you like.
[01:54] <rhizmoe> you should partition everything to a single / and a swap. two partitions.
[01:55] <rhizmoe> slices really
[01:55] <chintan> why only 2 partition
[01:55] <rdk> soreau it's a 5830, xfx
[01:55] <chintan> there r many partition option
[01:55] <mfilipe> is there any way to show memory in top program like MB?
[01:55] <chintan> like /user etc
[01:55] <almoxarife> Flynsarmy: good luck then, I didn't go that route, I used the nvidia provided
[01:55] <rhizmoe> don't ask why, you don't know the language well enough.
[01:56] <soreau> rdk: What have you tried that isn't working?
[01:56] <rhizmoe> chintan: those are subdirectories
[01:56] <rdk> soreau, when I try it under display, I get the "the selected configured for displays could not be applied" and it goes on to say that the max resolution is 1920x1920 (I'm trying to run 2 23")
[01:56] <rdk> soreau, and when I try to do it in catalyst, it keeps reverting back to cloned
[01:57] <deebee_> chintan: if you're a beginner, just go with the defaults and you'll be fine. I'm guessing you don't have any special needs.
[01:57] <Flynsarmy> I'm currently on gnome-classic in 11.10...and they seem to have removed the run menu. any ideas how I can get it back?
[01:57] <spikebike> Flynsarmy: heh, they evilly want to force you to use unity
[01:57] <soreau> rdk: Have you tried the open radeon driver?
[01:57] <rhizmoe> where is reboot?
[01:57] <lyndon`> 2
[01:57] <lyndon`>  
[01:58] <Flynsarmy> spikebike: I attempted to. I used alt+f2, typed 'gnome-terminal' and a nautilus window opened. second time i typed gnome-terminal, the terminal opened. repeat this process for several other runs
[01:58] <rhizmoe> do i have to go to terminal in order to reboot?
[01:58] <SubaruFre> Hosted a bunch of software on my webserver if anyones interested, business package hosting so unlimited bandwidth/250tb of space, lol...regardless, just hit the downloads section at http://www.subarufreaks.com you don't have to actually care about the subarus, its just my domain name lol
[01:58] <almoxarife> rhizmoe: right click the same icon, see reboot?
[01:58] <rhizmoe> same icon as...
[01:58] <Flynsarmy> spikebike: it seems that the run menu will open what you last opened regardless of what you type, THEN it will load what you want it to load the second time around. this is if you press enter rather than using your mouse to click on stuff
[01:58] <xangua> SubaruFre: no spam please
[01:58] <rdk> soreau, no, i am using the restricted one, if I turn off the restricted, do I just install the open one from synaptic/software center?
[01:59] <rhizmoe> almoxarife: same icon as...?
[01:59] <almoxarife> rhizmoe: the one that looks like an off/on button
[01:59] <spikebike> I've yet to try one of the !nounity alternatives
[01:59] <rhizmoe> not seeing it. it doesn't exist in my install.
[01:59] <Rallias> Ok. I've upgraded my grandma's laptop using LUbuntu, and now its having a hard time chugging along after the upgrade to 11.10. How do I get the auto login thing to stop with lightdm?
[01:59] <almoxarife> rhizmoe: top right, last icon, what is it?
[01:59] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and now I can't login with the account I upgraded with, but can login with other less priviledged ones, could the ecrypt of the home directory be the problem?
[02:00] <deebee_> rhizmoe: in 11.10, you select 'Shutdown...', and it's an option on the dialog that comes up
[02:00] <rhizmoe> almoxarife: user applet with my username.
[02:00] <soreau> rdk: In theory, you should only have to remove the catalyst drivers with jockey and the open driver will work
[02:00] <HoNgOuRu> please review my question
[02:00] <HoNgOuRu> hi, I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and now I can't login with the account I upgraded with, but can login with other less priviledged ones, could the ecrypt of the home directory be the problem?
[02:00] <almoxarife> rhizmoe: to the right of your name, what icon do you see?
[02:00] <rdk> soreau, I am removing them, let's see how this goes...
[02:00] <rhizmoe> almoxarife: i know what you're talking about. it's not there.
[02:00] <Flynsarmy> we need a #ubuntu-rants channel to bitch about how horribly canonical has screwed up ubuntu since 10.10
[02:00] <soreau> rdk: Unless you installed from AMD without using jockey
[02:01] <Vj> hi i'm trying to triple boot my macbook pro with lion win7 and the latest ubuntu is this possible?
[02:01] <deebee_> rhizmoe: the icon that looks like a cog is missing?
[02:01] <Vj> Ive heard of problems with refit
[02:01] <Vj> and lion
[02:01] <count0nz> anyone else haveing issues upgradein python3 on x86 from Beta to Final ?
[02:01] <rhizmoe> yes, the icon that looks like a cog, as well as the icon that looks like a switch are both missing.
[02:01] <count0nz> upgradeing even
[02:01] <rdk> soreau, I installed using the additional drivers under system settings
[02:01] <Centigonal> uh hey, how do I turn on compiz from the unity interface?
[02:01] <HoNgOuRu> this channel is all about problems and nothing about solutions
[02:01] <hunter> nter
[02:01] <soreau> rdk: yea, that's jockey
[02:01] <almoxarife> this is why I stay with 11.04 for a while :)
[02:02] <hunter> hey yall
[02:02] <HoNgOuRu> yeah almoxarife, don't upgrade for your sake
[02:02] <rdk> soreau, ok, my problem was before I installed the restricted drivers, my mouse cursor was like, non existent, it was video card fuzz
[02:02] <spikebike> Centigonal: my attempts to get compiz working have failed, seems like the tweaks for unity broke most of the basic compiz functionality
[02:02] <rdk> I'll brb, we'll see how this goes
[02:02] <rhizmoe> too many people playing chit-chat to get solutions out
[02:02] <Centigonal> ;_;
[02:02] <Centigonal> !nounity
[02:02] <HoNgOuRu> spikebike, buy an expensive graphics card, and get on with it
[02:03] <almoxarife> rhizmoe: are you in the unity desktop?
[02:03] <rhizmoe> yes.
[02:03] <HoNgOuRu> !classic
[02:03] <deebee_> rhizmoe: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/63084/power-cog-is-gone-from-the-panel for some ideas
[02:03] <deebee_> rhizmoe: looks like it may be a bug
[02:03] <rhizmoe> thanks!
[02:03] <keith_linux123> is there any way to install gnome3
[02:03] <HoNgOuRu> fck!
[02:03] <HoNgOuRu> can anybody help me?
[02:04] <spikebike> HoNgOuRu: heh, nah.  It's fine for 3d, google earth, light gaming, etc.  Just not whatever the monstrosity that is unity 3d
[02:04] <spikebike> oh and is quite happy with compiz + cube
[02:04] <Vj> is anyone triple booting with a mac/
[02:04] <Vj> ?
[02:04] <count0nz> Preparing to replace python3 3.2.2-0ubuntu1 (using .../python3_3.2.2-0ubuntu2_all.deb) ...  File "/usr/bin/py3clean", line 32, in <module>
[02:04] <almoxarife> rhizmoe: tried the               killall unity-panel-service
[02:04] <mongo> keith_linux123: install gnome-shell and gnome-panel IIRC
[02:04] <HoNgOuRu> I'll pay for help
[02:04] <HoNgOuRu> just kidding
[02:05] <HoNgOuRu> I'wont pay for anything but sx
[02:05] <keith_linux123> mongo, that easy ?
[02:05] <mattalexx> Has anyone successfully installed the equinox-theme package into 11.10 yet?
[02:05] <dandaman> shit shit shit, i need help, my machine wont book, i get to the menu where i can choose to boot normally, in recovery, previous linux versions, or memtest. If i choose normally, I get stuck at a blinking underscore. If i choose recovery book, i get stuck at [    0.010174] ACPI: Core revision 20110112
[02:05] <mongo> keith_linux123: I think so
[02:05] <dandaman> i'm on ubuntu 11.04
[02:05] <dandaman> please for the love of god help me, this is my work computer
[02:05] <mattalexx> Should I just use Natty sources and be done with it?
[02:05] <dandaman> i cant afford to lose some of the stuff i have on here that i didnt back up today
[02:06] <soreau> ! language | dandaman
[02:06] <dandaman> sorry
[02:06] <mongo> dandaman: boot to a live CD and get your files off
[02:06] <rdk> soreau, well, now my mouse cursor is all crazy/nonexistent again
[02:06] <Vj> can anyone help me with triple booting?
[02:06] <determinology> I cant get the wobbly windowa on 11.10
[02:06] <dandaman> mongo: am i screwed?
[02:07] <jamescarr_> determinology, good!
[02:07] <Boomai> I have a new laptop, trying a fresh 11.10 install. Screen goes completely blank after the "keyboard = man in a circle" and never comes back. Pressing shift and removing "quiet splash" from the boot line and setting nomodeset. I see that "starting load fallback graphics devices [fail]. Then I get a prompt. Can anyone help?
[02:07] <El_Presidente> hi, i try to install ubuntu 11.10 server on my q67 mainboard. installation worked flawlessly but i am unable to boot from uefi. if i go manually to the boot menu via f10 i can boot the "ubuntu" entry but if i dont do it i get constantly get booted to windows. i used efibootmgr to see what is the standard boot and it is ubuntu... any ideas?
[02:07] <soreau> rdk: Do both screens work though?
[02:07] <mongo> dandaman: no, but you should get the files you need off first
[02:07] <ellis> What are you triple booting?
[02:07] <rdk> soreau, about to try that, the mouse cursor does seem more important though, haha
[02:07] <Vj> macbook pro with lion and win 7 already installed
[02:07] <Vj> via bootcamp
[02:07] <ellis> what's the issue?
[02:08] <soreau> rdk: You can ask in #radeon to see if it's a known issue but you might try a newer kernel and userspace for latest driver code
[02:08] <ellis> to be honest you could do perfectly well running ubuntu inside of a virtual machine in Mac or even Windows
[02:08] <Vj> just would like to know the correct procedure I've heard that there are issues with refit and lion
[02:08] <rdk> soreau, yes, now both displays are working
[02:08] <rdk> but i dont' have a usable cursor
[02:08] <Vj> it would be much slower wouldn't it?
[02:08] <soreau> rdk: Try asking in #radeon
[02:09] <ellis> Ubuntu is not a particularly resource hungry OS. A Macbook Pro has a lot of resources.
[02:09] <deebee_> Vj: I'm running it in a VM right now on MacOS on a MacBook Pro
[02:09] <rhizmoe> well, removing nvidia-current and a hard reboot seems to have fixed my graphics resolution. still no cog/switch, though.
[02:09] <ellis> Unless you're doing lots of high power computing then I doubt you'd see the difference
[02:09] <Vj> its a 13 inch 2.4 ghz dual core with 4 gb ram
[02:09] <dandaman> mongo: what's my course of action going to look like after i get my files off?
[02:09] <rdk> soreau, thanks, I'll give it a shot
[02:09] <ellis> that's about as much power as my desktop has ahaha
[02:10] <rhizmoe> i'm missing a bunch of icons, too, like terminal and drive icons are all generic window
[02:10] <deebee_> Vj: Should be fine if you're doing run of the mill stuff
[02:10] <Vj> haha well is it possible to triple boot?
[02:10] <ellis> Currently I'm running an old Inspiron with about as much computing power as a shoe box, it runs fine. Definitely try vm route, at least just to try out hardware compatability
[02:10] <Vj> or not worth the hassle?
[02:10] <rhizmoe> ooh, i like how you can 'show desktop' from alt-tab
[02:10] <jamescarr_> does 11.10 remove the annoying "feature" of taking my menu options away in gvim, which forces me to use ubuntu classic?
[02:10] <rhizmoe> great idea
[02:11] <ellis> vj: depends if you think you need the third OS
[02:11] <dvivgadfp> mint@mint ~ $ xrandr --output "DVI-0" --mode "1920x1080"
[02:11] <dvivgadfp> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[02:11] <dvivgadfp> warning: output DVI-0 not found; ignoring
[02:11] <dvivgadfp> What doI put for DVI-0
[02:11] <ellis> I triple boot Windows 7, Mac OSX and Ubuntu, I find the more OSes I have, the more hassle it is keeping them all updated/backed up etc etc
[02:11] <dvivgadfp> or how do I find what to put there?
[02:11] <mongo> dandaman: boot in recovery mode and try to see if that fixes the issue
[02:11] <deebee_> Vj: in my opinion, not worth the hassle unless you have a specific reason to have it running natively. With a VM, you can snapshot it, roll back, etc. Plus, you can still use MacOS.
[02:11] <rhizmoe> ellis: no kidding?
[02:12] <dandaman> mongo: i am trying to boot in recovery mode right now, its stuck at ACPI: Core revision 20110112
[02:12] <ellis> kidding about what?
[02:12] <spikebike> amusingly unity seems to be simulatenously becoming much less compatible with old hardware (because of graphics requirements) and new hardware (because unity works so poorly with large and/or multiple monitors)
[02:12] <Vj> ellis: do you recommend 32 bit or 64?
[02:12] <mongo> dandaman: go into our bios and disable the power management
[02:12] <ellis> It's way too late for my sense of humour to be working ahah
[02:12] <rhizmoe> #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[02:12] <ellis> I always use 64-bit, obviously assuming that your computer is built for it
[02:13] <ellis> Can't honestly say I've noticed a difference though, especially since I don't push the >4GB RAM barrier
[02:13] <Vj> ellis: also i plan to use it with eclipse and some dev work, do you still think a vm would be the best way to go
[02:13] <rhizmoe> hm, alt-tab a little laggy
[02:13] <deebee_> Vj: I use Eclipse for C++ work on my VM without a problem
[02:14] <dandaman> mongo: it got past that, thanks, lets see what happens now
[02:14] <mongo> rhizmoe: and broken :)
[02:14] <ryaxnb> how do i tell if im using unity or unity-2d
[02:14] <mongo> dandaman: it may boot with it disabled
[02:14] <Vj> deebee_: what kind of specs are on your computer?
[02:14] <ellis> I use eclipse on Mac OSX, runs great. Not sure what you want Ubuntu for in general but as has already been said, VMs have many benefits
[02:15] <Vj> ill try the vm route but the geek in me wants to try the triple booting haha
[02:15] <douggle> have a quick question anyone know where i get a copy of ie60 winetricks pulls a 404 error
[02:15] <deebee_> Vj: It's a 2009 MacBook Pro 15", so pretty good. However, I used to run a Ubuntu VM on my old MacBook Pro that was probably a 2005/6 model
[02:15] <spikebike> hrmpf, anyone know how to turn off click to focus in 11.10?
[02:15] <dandaman> mongo: had it start normally and it worked, thanks broseph
[02:15] <dvivgadfp> am I asking difficult, stupid or obscure questions? This is the third help chat, ... and I'm only on IRC because I can't seem to find the info in either the man pages or on google
[02:16] <ellis> Vj: the geek in you will figure out how to do the triple boot eventually ;)
[02:16] <deebee_> Vj: If it's just for fun and a technical challenge, then go for it :)
[02:16] <dvivgadfp> Seems like it's a 'too obvious to mention online' issue.. unfortunately i don't get it : (
[02:16] <Vj> have you guys done it on your macs successfully?
[02:16] <almoxarife> dvivgadfp: on mint?
[02:16] <rhizmoe> funny, thunderbird doesn't even show you what the new version is anymore
[02:17] <ellis> Vj: Not on a mac, I use a x86 PC with OSX running on it. If you think getting Ubuntu working will be a challenge, try forcing a PC into a Mac ahah
[02:17] <deebee_> Vj: Havent run Linux natively on a Mac for a long time. I did do it with refit years ago, but I'm sure it's all changed and I can't remember a thing :)
[02:17] <rhizmoe> sidebar thingy is a bit hit-and-miss
[02:17] <Vj> ellis: hahaha yeah mackintosh's sound like quite the challenge
[02:17] <spikebike> wow, now a simple mouse tweak requires gconf-editor hacking.  Impressive how user unfriendly unity is getting
[02:17] <rhizmoe> dvivgadfp: what's the q
[02:18] <Vj> hackintosh*
[02:18] <dvivgadfp> xrandr, so mint, ubuntu, kubuntu shouldn't matter
[02:18] <ellis> yup
[02:18] <douggle> i have a hackint0sh downstairs
[02:18] <ellis> spikbike: agreed, it's not a good sign
[02:18] <almoxarife> dvivgadfp: on mint?
[02:18] <dvivgadfp> I'm trying to change the res and don't know what to put for --output
[02:18] <douggle> 10.7.2
[02:18] <Vj> deebee_: I've read that there are a lot of problems with refit and lion though
[02:18] <spikebike> I challenge anyone to figure out how to turn off click_to_focus without googling
[02:18] <Vj> that was my main question coming in here
[02:19] <edlang> Anyone know why dnsmasq is in universe, not main?
[02:19] <dvivgadfp> almoxarife: yes on mint. though my res doesn't show in system settings, so I added it manually, which worked.. but it still doesn't show in settings
[02:19] <almoxarife> wtf is it all the apple chat/?????????????????????????
[02:19] <keith_linux123> if i have 2 linux distros installed can they share a swap space
[02:19] <rhizmoe> no idea dude
[02:19] <almoxarife> dvivgadfp: try #mint
[02:19] <dvivgadfp> been there, done that
[02:19] <deebee_> Vj: I wouldn't know, having not looked into it for a long time. You'll be lucky to find someone in here wanting to do the same as you, at the same time as you :)
[02:20] <dvivgadfp> xrandr is the same no matter ubuntu, mint, or gentoo
[02:20] <spikebike> man unity is still pretty raw, just running gconf-editor fills my screen with "(gconf-editor:5530): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: g_object_get_valist: property `type' of object class `GConfEditorWindow' is not readable"
[02:20] <Vj> thanks for all your guys input i'll definitely try the vm first
[02:20] <ellis> Vj: good luck
[02:20] <deebee_> Vj: Have you got VM software installed already? Why not give it a go and see how it performs?
[02:20] <dvivgadfp> it's like mozilla directing me to microsoft for an issue with firefox.. firefox is firefox, no matter the platform(lame example)
[02:20] <deebee_> Vj: Hope it goes well :)
[02:21] <almoxarife> dvivgadfp: lame is bitching about mint in ubuntu chat
[02:21] <ellis> Being that this is the first time I've upgraded a Linux distro to the very latest version, are Ubuntu releases always this buggy/unstable at release?
[02:21] <rhizmoe> whoa, freaky slo-mo window resizing!
[02:22] <Moc> ellis: 10.10 is pretty good
[02:22] <helpMe> Hey guys, i can't seem to get my live usb's to work
[02:22] <rhizmoe> ellis: there is a 3.0 kernel and a new gui. lotta moving parts.
[02:22] <helpMe> Im on ubuntu 11.04
[02:22] <ellis> Maybe it's just my setup, but I'm just going from problem to problem to problem. Everything that took so long to configure in 11.04 has broken ahah
[02:22] <helpMe> They all get stuck at "Syslinux...etc"
[02:22] <dvivgadfp> almoxarife: .... I should have edited the console output to say ubuntu, since it's inconsequential
[02:22] <douggle> i m on 11.10 via wubi.
[02:22] <dvivgadfp> here, let me fix it.
[02:23] <dvivgadfp> I am now on my laptop with ubuntu
[02:23] <ellis> rhizmoe: Yeah I guess, it's easy to come accross as being ungrateful, given that it's free software an all
[02:23] <dvivgadfp> the output is:
[02:23] <rhizmoe> gonna have to set up a google alert for oneiric for a month or so
[02:23] <dvivgadfp> friendlyuser@ubuntuisawesome ~ $ xrandr --output "DVI-0" --mode "1920x1080"
[02:23] <dvivgadfp> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[02:23] <dvivgadfp> warning: output DVI-0 not found; ignoring
[02:24] <th0r> dvivgadfp: doesn't change the fact that it is mint
[02:24] <dvivgadfp> how do I find out what to put for --output?
[02:24] <dvivgadfp> it IS ubuntu now
[02:24] <Moc> unity and gnome 3 experience is ruining ubuntu for lot of us
[02:24] <dvivgadfp> I'm on my laptop now
[02:24] <helpMe> Anyone ? Plz im desparate :(
[02:24] <dvivgadfp> do I need to take a picture and upload to imgur?
[02:24] <almoxarife> dvivgadfp: you got a nvidia card?
[02:24] <dvivgadfp> *sigh*
[02:24] <dvivgadfp> amd
[02:24] <abhijain> what is the best way to switch from 10.10 to 11.10
[02:24] <StepNjump> Has there anyone here tried photorec to salvage data on an ext4 file system?
[02:25] <almoxarife> abhijain: don't
[02:25] <Moc> abhijain: you could stick to 10.10 if your happy..
[02:25] <xangua> abhijain: upgrade to 11.04-11.10
[02:25] <Moc> abhijain: I regret my upgrade I jsut did
[02:25] <rdk> Moc, me too.
[02:25] <abhijain> Moc: why so
[02:25] <ellis> Moc: feeling the same way
[02:25] <StepNjump> anyone familiar with photorec
[02:26] <spikebike> moc: same here
[02:26] <Moc> abhijain: the unity experience is the big problem... and gnome 3 is basicly the same
[02:26] <coppro> Hey guys. Does oneiric have any tray applets for power or volume management?
[02:26] <almoxarife> at this rate 11.10 may need a channel for itself just to reduce the scrolling
[02:26] <Moc> I'm on the gnome-session-fallback rightnow...
[02:26] <Moc> feel a bit like 10.10, BUT not as refined..
[02:26] <abhijain> Moc: so whats bad to adopt new things
[02:26] <spikebike> coppro: no try they give you a giant top bar, but you can't put anythnig it it
[02:26] <coppro> spikebike: no, I have trayer going, I just want an applet
[02:26] <Moc> abhijain: new thing isn't a problem, the problem is when it actually get in the way of productivity
[02:26] <dvivgadfp> almoxarife: Amd/Ati video
[02:27] <almoxarife> coppro: it does and volume should be visible by default
[02:27] <ellis> I think 11.10 needs a channel for itself just to divert all the traffic from the disillusioned buggers like myself :)
[02:27] <coppro> almoxarife: I'm not using Unity
[02:27] <coppro> I'm using XMonad
[02:27] <rhizmoe> Moc: frankly i like unity so far
[02:27] <almoxarife> coppro: which?
[02:27] <spikebike> rhizmoe: how big is your screen?
[02:27] <coppro> gnome-{volume,power}-applet are no longer in the repos
[02:27] <abhijain> Moc: I have installed vmware and used fedora15 simultaneously with gnome3 and its awesum
[02:27] <rhizmoe> single 23"
[02:27] <rdk> I can't even get dual monitor and a working mouse cursor all a the same time on a pretty standard ati card.
[02:27] <Moc> I just switched away from gnome 3... The alt-tab is one of the big reason
[02:28] <ellis> rdk: what's your card?
[02:28] <rhizmoe> i'm sure alt-tab will be dealt with sooner than later
[02:28] <rdk> ellis, xfx 5830
[02:28] <ellis> rdK: because I had a nightmare with the AMD Catalyst at first
[02:28] <spikebike> rdk: yeah I think the unity devels all have single monitor setups
[02:28] <abhijain> Moc: oh, first day and controversey starts.
[02:28] <Moc> but all the current application integration into the top bar arn't working... But this might just be an ubuntu issue...
[02:28] <rhizmoe> growing pains
[02:28] <crash1hd> Is there a way to log into ubuntu classic still with 11.10?
[02:28] <Moc> abhijain: I tried to switch to 11.04, and I had the same problem
[02:28] <Moc> I reverted back to 10.10
[02:29] <ellis> rdk: have you tried installing the updated additional drivers?
[02:29] <Alex_Jones> did my ubuntu just wished me to upgrade to cronical
[02:29] <Alex_Jones> or something
[02:29] <Alex_Jones> wtf is that
[02:29] <Moc> I would have reverted back again if it wernt for gnome-session-fallback
[02:29] <rhizmoe> deja-vu
[02:29] <Moc> it not perfect, but it usable
[02:29] <rdk> rdk, not the post-install upgrade ones, i could try those
[02:29] <abhijain> Moc: wait till december alpha1 is releasing
[02:29] <almoxarife> if the point is to do something productive while the bugs are worked out I would suggest "unity classic"
[02:29] <rypervenche> Ah, another fun upgrade. Let us watch with glee.
[02:29] <rhizmoe> i recommend waiting
[02:29] <rdk> ellis, not the post-install upgrade ones, i could try those
[02:30] <ozzloy> i added myself to a group that has write permissions to a directory, but i get permssion denied when i try to write to that directory.  how do i trouble shoot this?  my googling is bringing all sorts of unhelpful pages that happen to have lots of those words on them
[02:30] <ellis> rdk: when I tried to install those, it kept failing. I had to install through Terminal before I could get the Catalyst working
[02:30] <zaapiel> ʞɔƞɟ əɥʇ ʇɐɥʍ
[02:31] <rdk> ellis, i tried fglrx, the non post-release updates -- it took forever, but it finally installed
[02:31] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to get the 10.04 run menu back in gnome classic or gnome shell?
[02:31] <rdk> ellis, are you using dual screens?
[02:31] <ellis> rdk: yes
[02:31] <abhijain> zaapiel: :D
[02:31] <Moc> I really wish unity were something great...  Might be good for tablet though
[02:31] <zaapiel> lol
[02:31] <ellis> rdk: system settings couldn't handle doing anything other than mirroring them
[02:31] <zaapiel> unity
[02:31] <rdk> ellis, and did you use the post-install upgrade drivers? what ddi you install through terminal? drivers from ati website?
[02:31] <edlang> What's the best mailing list to ask ubuntu / openstack questions?
[02:31] <Moc> you don't run too much app at the same time on a tablet, and the left access tab is useful
[02:31] <zaapiel> thats been the topic since that POS was announced
[02:32] <almoxarife> Flynsarmy: you mean unity classic?
[02:32] <rhizmoe> ozzloy: log out and log back in, maybe
[02:32] <zaapiel> just switch to gnome 3 ubuntu
[02:32] <zaapiel> quit being lame
[02:32] <zaapiel> you aren't going to win this war
[02:32] <jedix> what packages do I need to re-activate hardware acceleration on sandy bridge?
[02:32] <jedix> in 11.10
[02:32] <Flynsarmy> almoxarife: nope i got rid of unity - kept crashing. i mean gnome classic or gnome shell
[02:32] <abhijain> zaapiel: how you using opposit font for words :D
[02:32] <spikebike> jedix: using sandy bridge for gpu?
[02:32] <zaapiel> abhijain, good question, i copy pastaed from another channel
[02:32] <zaapiel> ill ask him, hold
[02:32] <jedix> spikebike: yeah
[02:33] <Moc> Gnome shell wasn't too bad.. except for a new things they forces us on... Change behavior of alt-tab and no way to get it back
[02:33] <ellis> rdk: "fglrx-updates", if I remember correctly
[02:33] <spikebike> jedix: I thought that didn't work, phoronix had an article on it
[02:33] <rdk> ellis, ty, I'll give it a try
[02:33] <Moc> can't right click on the volume to mute the sound
[02:33] <ellis> rdk: good luck
[02:33] <RobotBot> hi everyone
[02:33] <jedix> spikebike: so it reverted to a non-functional state
[02:33] <abhijain> zaapiel: we linux users are weird people. We hate bindows and copying words from other channels. LOL
[02:33] <Moc> I had benchee playing, and I couldn't see anywhere the application running
[02:33] <Moc> I had to start it back to pause playback
[02:33] <rdk> ellis, thx, I will need it
[02:33] <RobotBot> so I just updated and I'm liking everything. Unity is so much more usable now
[02:34] <spikebike> jedix: ya, seems like unity doesn't work with older nvidia, older ATI, oew new intel
[02:34] <Moc> bunch of stuff like that to make it un acceptable for daily usage
[02:34] <spikebike> or
[02:34] <unkmar> I've been searching google but keeping hitting my dual-head against a wall.
[02:34] <unkmar> that expects the nvidia driver, not nv and I have been unable to get the nvidia driver to work at all.
[02:34] <spikebike> oh yeah and poor or not working on dual head
[02:34] <abhijain> dont underestimate be satisfy we have to wait for 12.4 :D
[02:34] <jedix> spikebike: I'm in kubuntu
[02:34] <Moc> dual head seem to work just fine in Gnome 3 and gnome 3 session fallback
[02:34] <RobotBot> i canceled the message that asked to import Evolution mail to thunderbird. how can I get this message to come up again?
[02:34] <unkmar> dual head help with nv drivers
[02:35] <ellis> rdk: Can confirm that from a fresh install, I got Catalyst and dual screens working with 'sudo apt-get install fglrx' followed by 'fglrx-updates'
[02:35] <Moc> I didn't even started unity on my 11.10 install
[02:35] <almoxarife> RobotBot: you installed thunderbird?
[02:35] <jedix> spikebike: phoronix says it's good
[02:35] <Vustom> I just installed GNOME in Ubuntu 11.10, and I'm new to this and wondering how I can change the theme?
[02:35] <jedix> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1110_graphics&num=2
[02:35] <rdk> ellis, cool, thanks, I'm about to try that if the additional divers will ever finish :)
[02:35] <Vustom> I've put the theme in .themes folder
[02:35] <Vustom> Where to now?
[02:36] <drss> came upon an issue in alternate CD install via preseed/preconfiguration of i386 and amd64 10.10 maverick; as installer is trying to set up base system packages it aborts 'select and install software' stage consistently... specifically,
[02:36] <Moc> Vustom: when you login, you have a button next to your name
[02:36] <xangua> Vustom: appearence settings
[02:36] <zaapiel> he didnt answer me abhijain
[02:36] <RobotBot> yeah. I upgraded just a  few mintues ago, almoxarife
[02:36] <ellis> rdk: 141mB worth of waiting... this is gonna be a long night for me
[02:36] <Moc> Vustom: the gear
[02:36] <Vustom> xangua: I'm in Appearence Settings, but in the drop down box it's not there?
[02:36] <almoxarife> RobotBot: the easy way is to delete the thunderbird folder in your home folder, you get a redo
[02:36] <drss> Processing triggers for python-support ...    Errors were encountered while processing:    openoffice.org-style-human, openoffice.org-common, python-uno
[02:37] <rdk> ellis, I think the servers are busy and slow
[02:37] <drss> WARNING **: Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error code 1
[02:37] <Vustom> Home > .themes > Nord > gnome-shell is the location of the theme
[02:37] <RobotBot> almoxarife: ok I'll try that. thank you very much
[02:37] <Moc> I had to reinstall ubuntu and dont check the install update for the install to work
[02:37] <Moc> I did skip but it ended up to freeze right before the end
[02:38] <ellis> rdk: yeah no doubt, it's struggling with ~75k/s. I'm gonna leave it to it and try and get some sleep. I've got lectures in 4 hours...
[02:38] <danopia> when did 11.10 come out
[02:38] <Tru3fate> today
[02:38] <ellis> danopia: 13th Oct 2011
[02:38] <danopia> no wonder http is so slow
[02:38] <danopia> at least the torrent is going 5MiB/s
[02:39] <danopia> i'll set it seed for a while
[02:39] <Moc> my iso dl was pretty quick
[02:39] <Moc> it the update server that are slow
[02:40] <danopia> my iso download was going to take an hour
[02:40] <danopia> on a gigabit internet connection
[02:40] <rdk> ellis, when i uncheck cloned and apply, it doesn't stick... it reverts back to cloned... did you have that problemm?
[02:41] <rhizmoe> hah, so the missing cog issue is just that the icon isn't showing. you can actually open any of the other menus (time, user, etc) and slide the mouse cursor to the edge of the screen and the menu will expose
[02:41] <tanath> why can't i upgrade to 11.10 without removing evince, pidgin, gnome, and synaptic?
[02:41]  * danopia makes a usb boot disk so he can install to an SD card
[02:41] <ellis> rdk: yes, but I *think* it went away after applying the updates
[02:41] <RobotBot> almoxarife: should i restart and then open Evolution. the message isn't popping just yet after deleting it and opening Evo.
[02:41] <rdk> try the torrents if are having slow iso download, danopia
[02:41] <jedix> this makes no sense
[02:41] <gentoofa1> Is this the right channel in which to ask about installing a torrent seed server to seed the latest ubuntu images?
[02:41] <danopia> rdk, the torrent went by at 5 MiB/s
[02:41] <rhizmoe> gentoofa1: transmission
[02:42] <ellis> rdk: before i did, clicking 'apply' would just make the window dissapear and nothing actually change
[02:42] <almoxarife> RobotBot: a log out/in should help
[02:42] <gentoofa1> rhizmoe: Is that the best one? I want something efficient.
[02:42] <rdk> ellis, hmm, I have applied the update, but I'm still seeing what you are describing, nothing is changing.
[02:42] <tanath> rhizmoe, deluge
[02:42] <danopia> gei use deluge
[02:42] <RobotBot> ok brb. i'll try it.
[02:42] <danopia> gentoofa1, i use deluge
[02:42] <rhizmoe> gentoofa1: it's not a complicated piece of software, efficiency isn't much of an issue.
[02:42] <rdk> ellis, I am picking multi display desktop
[02:42] <zaapiel> i use transmission
[02:43] <rhizmoe> it's really just a matter of taste
[02:43] <ellis> rdk: is that the bottom option from the list of 4/5? I can't remember the wording exactly but I know theirs two almost identical sounding settings that do very different things
[02:43] <tanath> why does upgrading to 11.10 what to remove evince, pidgin, gnome, and synaptic?
[02:43] <danopia> gentoofa1, i'm having a hard time getting peers to leech from me, it seems like hte torrent is very well-seeded
[02:43] <Moc> is there a way to put back the file/edit/... menu to the window ?
[02:43] <gentoofa1> rhizmoe: I have a 100Mbps symmetric internet connection with only 256MB of RAM.
[02:43] <rdk> ellis, yes, it's the bottom
[02:43] <ryaxnb> no one answered my question
[02:43] <ryaxnb> how do i tell if im running unity 2d or unity 3d
[02:44] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | tanath
[02:44] <danopia> gentoofa1, i'm on a gigabit university connection and i'm seeding at 35 KiB/s
[02:44] <sebsebseb> tanath: that's why
[02:44] <sebsebseb> tanath: and Software Centre is used now to replace Synaptic by default, but still in repos
[02:44] <tanath> sebsebseb, i know that. but gnome 3 is in repos, no?
[02:44] <gentoofa1> danopia: This might be a gigabit connection. I am not sure. It is a VM.
[02:44] <rhizmoe> gentoofa1: sounds like a personal problem
[02:44] <xannen> Ubuntu 11.10: My networking is not working.  I had google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1847900    best results so far.  And it has not worked.
[02:44] <danopia> gentoofa1, linux server?
[02:44] <tanath> sebsebseb, i know that as well. but i have it installed, so why is it removing it?
[02:44] <ryaxnb>  gnome 3 is included in ubuntu 11.10
[02:44] <new2net> Can someone lend me perhaps 3 minutes of their time to help me install 11.04 on a hard drive (and get rid of grub), while keeping the files on a separate hard drive.
[02:44] <sebsebseb> tanath: well Gnome 3.2 is in Ubuntu 11.10, but with Unity by default, rather than Gnome Shell
[02:44] <gentoofa1> danopia: Ubuntu Server 10.04
[02:44] <Julius_> how do i register a domain?>
[02:44] <ellis> rdk: hmm.. not too sure. The way it worked for me the first time was to go into normal System Settings >> Display, untick mirror and select low resolutions for both screens so that it'd accept. Then with the new low-res desktop, open catalyst and change, then restart
[02:44] <tanath> sebsebseb, defaults are irrelevant. i'm upgrading
[02:45] <ryaxnb> however, gnome shell is not included by default but can be added
[02:45] <rhizmoe> Julius_: www.joker.com
[02:45] <ellis> rdk: if that doesn't work, I'm out of ideas ahah
[02:45] <ryaxnb> no, when you upgrade, it removes gnome-panel and adds unity and removes gnome-shell
[02:45] <sebsebseb> new2net: get rid of Grub???
[02:45] <danopia> gentoofa1, does it have a GUI set up? if not, don't try transmission, it's gui. deluge has a server and webui but it's not that easy to set up the first time around
[02:45] <rdk> ellis, ah, I didn't try the low res thing, I'll try that,
[02:45] <ryaxnb> (well, more accurately, it doesn't bother to install Gnome-shell)
[02:45] <dayduh> I'm thinking about rubbity jibbits
[02:45] <powersurge> sooo did you guys know that you can open a tab on your desktop and it's pretty hard to close?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> new2net: you put 11.04 on and you get a new Grub useualy
[02:45] <dayduh> I'm thinking about rubbity chicka licka laisley
[02:45] <Julius_> how do i register a channel?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> new2net: if you had one from before
[02:45] <ryaxnb> so if you upgrade, you get a new like experience - Unity only.
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Julius_: ask in #freenode
[02:45] <dayduh> Got a question, where are the XML parsers in cpan
[02:45] <tanath> ryaxnb, don't have gnome-shell yet, but why would it remove it?
[02:45] <ryaxnb> you can still add gnome-panel or gnome-shell.
[02:45] <new2net> sebsebseb, When I boot up it says "Grub Recovery > "   and help  /help --help man nothing works
[02:46] <ellis> rdk: it may not have made a difference, that's just the only thing i can think that may affect it. Some clash between Ubuntu screen settings and AMDs
[02:46] <sebsebseb> new2net: ok and when do you get that?
[02:46] <ryaxnb> tanath, like i said, it doesn't, but it doesn't add it, and it does remove all PPAs, so since it was only on ubuntu 11.04 via PPA...
[02:46] <tanath> ryaxnb, shouldn't have to reinstall stuff taht's already installed
[02:46] <sebsebseb> new2net: did you upgrade to 11.10 and it went wrong and so Grub issue?
[02:46] <ryaxnb> it removes gnome-panel because it's a legacy component
[02:46] <new2net> sebsebseb, after booting (sorry I'm not sure what you mean)
[02:46] <mekwall> pangolin: any reason why you kicked me out of the release party channel?
[02:46] <ryaxnb> so the distro upgrade uninstalls it...
[02:46] <sebsebseb> mekwall: party's over!
[02:46] <new2net> sebsebseb, yes... now I just want to start over with 11.04
[02:46] <mekwall> boo :D
[02:46] <sebsebseb> mekwall: untill next time
[02:46] <tanath> ryaxnb, are we talking about gnome-shell? i don't have it installed
[02:47] <ryaxnb> no, gnome-panel
[02:47] <Guest1680> hi
[02:47] <ryaxnb> it's installed by default in 11.04
[02:47] <sebsebseb> new2net: ok so where is your data? on a external hard disk?
[02:47] <ryaxnb> removed by default in 11.10 even when upgrading
[02:47] <mekwall> sebsebseb: well, new releases all the time so why not party all the time? ;)
[02:47] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[02:47] <new2net> sebsebseb, on another server.
[02:47] <sebsebseb> !nounity | ryaxnb
[02:47] <ryaxnb> and still haven't got an answer- am i using unity-2d or unity-3d
[02:47] <tanath> ryaxnb, it's a problem.
[02:47] <rhizmoe> my trashcan has no icon/graphic. could it just be that some graphics didn't make it into the distribution? this is kinda weird.
[02:47] <sebsebseb> new2net: any data in the Ubuntu install itself?
[02:47] <RobotBot> harrumph... didn't work i'm going to try something else
[02:47] <ryaxnb> sebsebseb, i'm helping tanath, aim it at him :/
[02:47] <ryaxnb> i know this stuff already
[02:47] <sebsebseb> !nounity | tanath
[02:47] <ryaxnb> i customized my ubuntu with all the desktop enviornments to play with
[02:47] <new2net> sebsebseb, When I view my 1st hard disk (which I selected to install on) it looks like a clean 11.04 install
[02:48] <kamilnadeem> yesterday I upgraded 11.04 using the command "update-manager -d" via Alt+F2(as the update manager was not showing the new release even when I had the release update checked to normal in the update manager settings). So please tell me am I at 11.10 final or 11.10 beta 2.
[02:48] <pangolin> mekwall: I kicked the entire channel it is closed until next release.
[02:48] <ryaxnb> also note u can use Xfce for a GNOME 2 like feel
[02:48] <danopia> typo in !nounity, it says drowpdown
[02:48] <sebsebseb> new2net: ok you on the Live CD for Ubuntu 11.04 maybe?
[02:48] <tanath> sebsebseb, we've been over this. i know that
[02:48] <Moc> Xfce might be the way to go
[02:48] <new2net> sebsebseb, yes on a USB
[02:48] <ryaxnb> kamilnadeem, ubuntu betas are rolling release.
[02:48] <ryaxnb> You were at yesterday's current release...
[02:48] <sebsebseb> ryaxnb: they are not rolling release or not exactly
[02:48] <ryaxnb> if you do a sudo apt-get update  && sudo apt-get upgrade you'll be at final, even if you weren't then.
[02:49] <sebsebseb> new2net: ok  can you show me a screenshot of gparted?
[02:49] <ellis> Can Xfce have the window management that stock Ubuntu has? I'm referring to window resizing when dragged to edge of screen
[02:49] <ryaxnb> sebsebseb, well, doing a update-manager -d gets you the very latest Ubuntu 11.10 as of the day you do it.
[02:49] <tanath> the problem is removing things that don't need to be. they should be upgraded instead of removed, forcing user to note down what's removed and reinstall again after
[02:49] <ryaxnb> which includes some post-beta 2 files but maybe not the release files.
[02:49] <Moc> going to try xfce now..
[02:49] <ryaxnb> the best thing to do is just do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:49] <episteme_> new2net: happened to me before...if I was at home I would send you link to fix....try searching fogle and you should be able to find what I did.
[02:49] <ryaxnb> if there's any update, it will fetch it and then you'll be on release version.
[02:50] <new2net> sebsebseb, yes 1 moment
[02:50] <episteme_> Seems to happen during update..don't know why....
[02:50] <sebsebseb> new2net: I used to help people with Ubuntu  partition stuff loads of times before, but woudn't normally anymore, since more invovled with other distros now days :D
[02:50] <zaapiel> traitor
[02:50] <kamilnadeem> ok I have initiated the command in terminal  lets see
[02:50] <episteme_> S/fogle/google
[02:50] <ryaxnb> how the heck can you tell if you're on unity 2d or unity 3d
[02:50] <rdk> ellis getting closer, I have one monitor at full res and one at 800x600, catalyst it still not keeping all changes, weird
[02:50] <sebsebseb> zaapiel: nope I started with Fedora Core 2 even, no Ubuntu back then :D
[02:50] <ryaxnb> i can't tell :(
[02:51] <Moc> ryaxnb: if it suck, your on 2d, if it really suck, your on 3d
[02:51] <ryaxnb> shaddup and explain pls
[02:51] <ryaxnb> i need to know how urgent it is that i reboot
[02:51] <ellis> rdk: hah, well i guess that's a start. hit Super+s. Does your workspace changer look right? Cos mine doesn't at all
[02:51] <kamilnadeem> Moc why are you spamming man , if you can provide help then help otherwise bugger off
[02:51] <ryaxnb> if im on 2d, i need to reboot and install this new driver that will make my card fully support 3d. If im on 3d, i have some 3d support already.
[02:52] <ryaxnb> so rebooting is low priority
[02:52] <new2net> sebsebseb, http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4413/screenshotap.png
[02:52] <Corey> ryaxnb: Please remain civil.
[02:52] <al4nc4ds> someone using ubuntu studio 11.10?
[02:52] <rdk> ellis, what is super?
[02:52] <ryaxnb> ok corey.
[02:52] <Moc> kamilnadeem: I was actually half serious on that answer
[02:52] <ryaxnb> :)
[02:52] <rdk> ellis, I think something is keeping catalyst from saving changes and I got lucky once, hehe
[02:52] <danopia> eliasp, windows key
[02:52] <danopia> err
[02:52] <ellis> rdk, Super = Windows Key
[02:52] <danopia> ellis, windows key
[02:52] <tanath> evince, pidgin, gnome, & synaptic are all in 11.10, yes? so upgrading should not remove them. it should upgrade them
[02:53] <kamilnadeem> ryaxnb it is  showing that no upgrades are required
[02:53] <ryaxnb> tanath, i have synaptic in 11.10 by default.
[02:53] <rdk> windows key-s pulls up a small text box in lower right
[02:53] <ryaxnb> i upgraded.
[02:53] <sebsebseb> new2net: ok two hard disks, and  according to that it's on the second, and that not much space is used in that partiiton
[02:53] <kamilnadeem> I upgraded
[02:53] <tanath> and if evince isn't the default doc viewer then what is?
[02:53] <ryaxnb> so i don't think it removes synaptic...
[02:53] <al4nc4ds> someone uses the 11.10 ubuntu studio??? stable ?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> new2net: you should be able to delete your Ubuntu partition, and then make a new one when you re install 11.04
[02:53] <al4nc4ds> kernel 3.0 ?
[02:53] <tanath> ryaxnb, it wants to remove it for me
[02:53] <kamilnadeem> Synaptic is still here
[02:53] <ryaxnb> kamilnadeem, then you are on the newest ubuntu 11.10
[02:53] <sebsebseb> new2net: or do it in manual install, and set up a seperate /home if you really wanted to even, but you got two hard disks anyway
[02:53] <ryaxnb> and that is that.
[02:53] <ellis> rdk, oh right, well on mine it's the shortcut for Workspace Siwtcher. Just click that instead, it's in the launcher
[02:54] <sebsebseb> new2net: manual install, I meant custum partitining in the installer
[02:54] <ryaxnb> let's try this
[02:54] <ellis> rdk, it's just that it has lots of strange rendering artefacts on mine, wondering if it's a common problem with AMD cards
[02:54] <ryaxnb> if unity-2d is running, they'll be a unity-2d process, right, and if 3d is running, there'll be a compiz process, right?
[02:54] <grendal-prime> ok this is making me nuts...install just stops at the ubuntu screen
[02:54] <ryaxnb> so i can do a ps -aux to tell??
[02:54] <grendal-prime> even the alternate installer
[02:55] <ron> hi, is it possible to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 using console? the website documentation seems to only mention how to do it using GUI.
[02:55] <grendal-prime> what causes this...
[02:55] <new2net> sebsebseb, which device would I select for my boot loader?
[02:55] <nac-godfather> maybe check the sleep timer in power management, that used to screw up my installs...
[02:55] <rdk> ellis, I haev current killed unity unf
[02:56] <ryaxnb> ah, i have compiz on ps -aux
[02:56] <sebsebseb> new2net:  is Ubuntu on a external hard disk? or one insidey our computer?
[02:56] <ryaxnb> so i have unity 3d then.
[02:56] <sebsebseb> new2net: doesn't really matter where it goes I think, which hard disk
[02:56] <ellis> rdk, oh right. Well I've just reinstalled 11.10, and am having the exact same problem as you now. AMD Catalyst isn't saving settings
[02:56] <ryaxnb> grendal-prime, have you tried banging the keyboard, that actually worked for me once
[02:56] <ryaxnb> as in "pressing all the keys in succesion"
[02:57] <new2net> sebsebseb, I see. OK I'll give this another shot
[02:57] <ryaxnb> rather than truly banging.
[02:57] <kamilnadeem> ryanxb why is this http://i.imgur.com/2fBVg.png ? when I am opening the home folder it is showing below the icons in unity , while in natty it would not do this
[02:57] <al4nc4ds> someone uses the 11.10 ubuntu studio?
[02:57] <al4nc4ds> someone uses the 11.10 ubuntu studio?
[02:57] <sebsebseb> new2net: well it needs to be on the hard disk
[02:57] <sebsebseb> new2net: that the computer is booted from really
[02:57] <sebsebseb> !studio | al4nc4ds
[02:57] <rdk> ellis, oh dear
[02:57] <zeroseven0183> Good day. I'm trying to recall my password here in IRC. Can anyone point me to the correct channel? Thanks
[02:57] <sebsebseb> zeroseven0183: #freenode
[02:58] <al4nc4ds> sebsebseb: 0o uses?
[02:58] <sandra> Evening my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[02:58] <zeroseven0183> Thanls sebsebseb
[02:58] <zeroseven0183> Thanks
[02:58] <ryaxnb> no clue.
[02:58] <sebsebseb> zeroseven0183: your welcome
[02:58] <ryaxnb> have you tried removing and remounting the Files icon.
[02:58] <kamilnadeem> do you experienc the same
[02:58] <rdk> ellis, and to think I upgraded from my nice 10.04 installation to get multiple monitors working properly.
[02:58] <sandra> I trust everyone of you is doing well
[02:58] <sebsebseb> al4nc4ds: what?
[02:58] <ellis> rdk, I know, bloody marvelous isn't it ahah. Think I'm just gonna have to revert back to 11.04
[02:58] <ryaxnb> That is, remove the Home Folder/Files icon that is on top, and remount the other one to a permanent position.
[02:58] <al4nc4ds> distro uses studio in hd ?
[02:58] <ellis> could you not get dual monitors in 10.04>
[02:58] <ryaxnb> i think that worked for me when this occured, it's a bug.
[02:58] <ellis> *?
[02:59] <ryaxnb> ok bye down for reboot
[02:59] <Stingray88> Can anyone help me figure out why my samba shares aren't working right
[02:59] <tanath> so how do we figure out why upgrade tool wants to remove stuff i need/want?
[02:59] <rdk> ellis, yeah, this is annoying, dual monitors should not be rocket science
[03:00] <tanath> that it doesn't for others
[03:00] <Stingray88> They used to work fine, then I reinstalled ubuntu and I can't see anything from another computer
[03:00] <ellis> rdk, I've never had this problem before. 11.04 worked straight away for me, no problems installing Catalyst, no problems using it
[03:00] <new2net> sebsebseb, http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6100/screenshot2ya.png
[03:00] <ellis> rdk, every other distro I've ever dreamed up of downloading has worked out the box too
[03:00] <sebsebseb> new2net: ok yeah that's the manual install
[03:01] <sebsebseb> new2net: ,but you need to set up the partitions
[03:01] <sebsebseb> in that
[03:01] <Moc> urm, xfce seem to do the job too
[03:01] <danopia> i have good results with dualscreens on everything except unity
[03:01] <danopia> unity didn't like dynamic desktop size changes
[03:01] <rdk> danopia, I am using gnome shell and still no lick
[03:01] <rdk> *luck
[03:01] <Stingray88> Can anyone help me figured out why my samba shares aren't working anymore
[03:01] <danopia> i don't have 11.10 set up yet so no idea on that
[03:01] <sebsebseb> new2net: so I would do like 10GB maybe 12GB or so even for /   asi n root,  and then  maybe a seperate /home even
[03:01] <Stingray88> I've installed samba, set them up with the server gui… it worked before and now it's not
[03:01] <sebsebseb> new2net: and Ext4 is the file system
[03:01] <ellis> danopia, what are dynamic desktop size changes?
[03:01] <danopia> but i always logged in to gnome2 for projectors/etc
[03:02] <rdk> ellis, I'm going to uninstall catalyst and then try to install it from AMD
[03:02] <danopia> ellis, when i added a screen, unity wouldn't render onto that screen until i logged out and back in
[03:02] <danopia> so it would be a huge rendering error
[03:02] <kamilnadeem> why is this http://i.imgur.com/2fBVg.png ? when I am opening the home folder it is showing below the icons in unity , while in natty it would not do this
[03:02] <tanath> i'm trying to give unity another chance instead of switching distros, but if if the upgrade tool is going to remove things it shouldn't...
[03:03] <Gunz4MiPPle> so if yr sound isnt working after upgrade, try restarting
[03:03] <somethinginteres> can anyone help me out. I have the new 11.10 Gwibber but the skin not the "complete" new one. the menu etc is slick looking but the skin used on the messages themselves is the yellow default one from prior to 11.10.
[03:03] <kamilnadeem> now I have removed both the icons and brought new ones from dash yet they are not working properly
[03:03] <ellis> danopia, ok, figures. I might try logging into Unity-2D then and seeing if it fares any better
[03:03] <Stingray88> can anyone help me figure out why I can't see my samba shares
[03:03] <Moc> tanath: you should just boot an usb key and test it before you try to upgrade
[03:03] <Stingray88> I had them setup just fine before, and now they aren't working apparnetly
[03:04] <tanath> Moc, it died
[03:04] <tanath> Moc, and i don't see how that'd help
[03:04] <danopia> haha.
[03:04] <kamilnadeem> tanath what is it removing
[03:04] <shaun192> hello
[03:04] <Moc> tanath: Well, you might have save yourself some unproductive hours
[03:04] <danopia> already foud a bug in 11.10
[03:05] <Karmaon> That's strange, does 11.10 have a memory leak somewhere?
[03:05] <Stingray88> please, can anyone help me figure out why my samba shares aren't showing up anymore
[03:05] <danopia> if you don't have any networking set up and go to register for a software center sync account, the captcha continually refreshes
[03:05] <trojanerPT> danopia: you must be kidding
[03:05] <danopia> like, 15x/second
[03:05] <tanath> kamilnadeem, evince, pidgin, gnome, synaptic, ntfsprogs....
[03:05] <danopia> not major but
[03:05] <danopia> yea
[03:05] <Karmaon> Installing rails slows down the system to a halt considerably.
[03:05] <Stingray88> I have samba installed, and setup the folders in the server gui, but nothing is showing up on my other computer
[03:05] <tanath> Moc, how? the problem is with the upgrade tool
[03:05] <kamilnadeem> man it will reinstall that stuff I guess
[03:05] <Moc> tanath: your using what now ? 11.04 ?
[03:05] <tanath> kamilnadeem, no, that's what it wants to remove
[03:06] <shaun192> need some help with a few 11.10 post b2 ==> 11.10 final issues
[03:06] <tanath> Moc, yes
[03:06] <Stingray88> please someone help me, it will be extremely quick I'm sure
[03:06] <danopia> so are ubuntu software center accounts seperate from ubuntu SSO accounts?
[03:06] <danopia> because that's stupid
[03:06] <nvzn> i think there is a problem with ath9k in lucid right now
[03:06] <Moc> tanath: urm, donno then
[03:06] <tanath> Stingray88, samba can be a real mess and pain to troubleshoot. try browsing directly to the ip. you might just not be browseable on network
[03:07] <tanath> Stingray88, using samba-capable client like nautilus, of course
[03:07] <Stingray88> tanath, it worked just fine a week ago… all I did was intall samba and set it up with the server gui… then this week I reinstalled the same OS, repeated the same steps and have nothing
[03:08] <tanath> Stingray88, maybe you left something out
[03:08] <Stingray88> tanath, I don't see how
[03:08] <shaun192> anyone get a lightdm configure md5sum: I/O error during a dist-upgrade
[03:08] <Stingray88> tanath, its only two steps
[03:08] <tanath> let's try...
[03:08] <tanath> !samba
[03:08] <tanath> check those?
[03:09] <Stingray88> check what
[03:09] <tanath> Stingray88, the links
[03:09] <Stingray88> I've read all the documentation… it will lead me no where
[03:09] <tanath> Stingray88, well i'm afraid to get sucked into samba troubleshooting right now. can be time consuming
[03:10] <Stingray88> ugh
[03:10] <Stingray88> linux seriously drives me nuts
[03:10] <sandra> I was hoping that someone here could please tell me if there is a work around for the right click desktop option "Open as file Manger"  I did install nautilus-gksu but when I click on a folder the "Open as file manger" does not work.
[03:10] <reisio> Stingray88: not Linux's fault
[03:10] <Stingray88> how can I do one thing one week, and do the same exact thing the next week on the same exact OS… and have it not work
[03:10] <rhizmoe> #samba 111 Got questions?
[03:10] <Stingray88> that is most definiately linux's fault
[03:10] <reisio> Stingray88: usually because you've changed something
[03:10] <sandra> but it is installed
[03:10] <Stingray88> I didn't change anything
[03:10] <sebsebseb> sandra: or Ubuntu's fault, rather than Desktop Linux as a whole any distro
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Stingray88:  that was for you ^
[03:11] <tanath> Stingray88, windows will drive you more nuts, generally. malware, etc
[03:11] <sebsebseb> sandra: wrong person
[03:11] <Stingray88> I'm not using windows
[03:11] <shaun192> anyone see this error when opening a term ==>  bash: /etc/bash_completion.d/rsync: Input/output error
[03:11] <jeet> hi i just installed ubuntu 11.04 and my xchat-gnome crashes on accepting a XDCC transfer...does anyone know why this is happening?? is this an xchat bug or is there a way around?
[03:11] <intok> So whats the state of the i845 GPU driver in 11.10??
[03:11] <tanath> Stingray88, didn't imply you were
[03:11] <nac-godfather> "Open As File Manager" ?  what
[03:11] <Stingray88> this is a mess
[03:11] <Stingray88> seriously
[03:11] <tanath> Stingray88, there are command-line tools to get more info
[03:12] <tanath> Stingray88, narrow down the problem
[03:12] <sandra> sebsebseb, wrong person but perhaps you have the right answer ?
[03:12] <Stingray88> how can I do the EXACT same thing a week later and have it not work
[03:12] <tanath> Stingray88, smbtree or somethign. things like that
[03:12] <reisio> Stingray88: you can't, what does that tell you
[03:12] <sebsebseb> sandra: depends on your issue, I message you by mistake there, when I was meant to have messaged Stingray88
[03:12] <tanath> Stingray88, maybe an update introduced a bug. it happens you know
[03:12] <almoxarife> Stingray88: I can help, but you will need to not argue, agreed?
[03:12] <kamilnadeem> I did the upgrade yesterday from 11.04 using the command "update-manager -d" via Alt+F2(as the update manager was not showing the new release even when I had the release update checked to normal in the update manager settings). So please tell me am I at 11.10 final or 11.10 beta 2.
[03:12] <Stingray88> I'll agree
[03:13] <kamilnadeem> I somehow belive I am on beta 2
[03:13] <maulana> are ubuntu 11.04  have recovery all my configuration or did ubuntu have check point of configuration ?
[03:13] <nac-godfather> uname -a
[03:13] <almoxarife> Stingray88: you want to share ubuntu folders?
[03:13] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes
[03:13] <almoxarife> Stingray88: the machine that is suppose to see these folders is on a local lan?
[03:13] <sandra> My issue is not being able to implement the right click "Open as Administrator " function after installing nautilus-gksu
[03:14] <sebsebseb> sandra: oh
[03:14] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes both computers are on my home network
[03:14] <sebsebseb> sandra: not quite sure the feature your after, but Nautilus has chaned in Ubuntu 11.10 it's Gnome 3.2 now not Gnome 2
[03:14] <dajhorn> shaun192: Remove the rsync package, delete that file if it still exists, and reinstall the rsync package.
[03:14] <almoxarife> Stingray88: can you ping the other machine?
[03:14] <nac-godfather> "cat /etc/issue" kamilnadeem
[03:15] <nac-godfather> That will tell you which release "codename" you're running.
[03:15] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I can VNC from my laptop into my ubuntu box
[03:15] <rhizmoe> i got sound back on all by myself, yet still no speaker icon. no checkbox in the sound panel either
[03:15] <Stingray88> almoxarife: so they see eachother
[03:15] <vivek200912> getting problem in upgrading Ubunut to 11.10, update manager is not responding after clicking on upgrade, can anyone help?
[03:15] <Benwalburn> does anyone know how to manually install broadcom driver on ubuntu? i have the tar file, i just need to know what command lines to run to install them
[03:16] <maulana> hallo please repon my faq
[03:16] <almoxarife> Stingray88: you installed some samba packages?
[03:16] <xangua> !broadcom | Benwalburn
[03:16] <godzuki> Do I need to add my user to the video group to use acceleration, like in Arch or Gentoo?
[03:16] <dajhorn> vivek200912: Try again later.  The upgrade servers are overloaded.
[03:16] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes, I did sudo apt-get install samba… and then sudo apt-get install server-config-samba
[03:16] <maulana> are ubuntu have checkpoint of configuration or are ubuntu 11.04 have recovery all my configuration to default
[03:16] <maulana> !configuration
[03:17] <almoxarife> Stingray88: unstall them along with the config files
[03:17] <determinology> How you get the wobbly windows to work on 11.10
[03:17] <maulana> !visualeffect
[03:17] <vivek200912> dajhorn: Thanks it just worked now.
[03:17] <maulana> !compiz
[03:17] <dajhorn> vivek200912: Welcome.
[03:17] <maulana> !ngix
[03:17] <Stingray88> almoxarife: whats the easiest way to uninstall all of that
[03:17] <sandra> odd I don't see why this feature is listed in Synaptic and yet not function under Gnome 3 .
[03:17] <joshua__> Hey guys, I have a question regarding enabling/installing Unity 3D.  Is anyone available to help?
[03:17] <maulana> !gmail
[03:17] <tanath> shouldn't that be updated for thunderbird?
[03:17] <dajhorn> godzuki: No, you normally don't do this on Ubuntu.
[03:18] <trojanerPT> is ubuntu studio part of the official ubuntu familie?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> joshua__: hi
[03:18] <sebsebseb> !ask | joshua__
[03:18] <almoxarife> Stingray88: use the same method you used to install, which was it?
[03:18] <GI_Jack> 11.10.....worth it?
[03:18] <reisio> trojanerPT: yes
[03:18] <coppro> gnome-volume-control-applet and gnome-power-manager-applet were removed from oneiric. What equivalents exist?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> GI_Jack: depends
[03:18] <rhizmoe> are there really no more application folders?
[03:18] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I used sudo apt-get install… do I just type sudo apt-get remove?
[03:18] <GI_Jack> sebsebseb - no, thats old people underwear
[03:18] <GI_Jack> stingray - yes
[03:18] <almoxarife> Stingray88: no, use 'purge'
[03:19] <RobotBot> i'm having problems migrating my mail from evolution to thunderbird. i foolishly ignored the pop up that suggested to migrate it over. now i don't know how. can anyone help?
[03:19] <sebsebseb> rhizmoe: I think if you use Gnome Shell, with an extension or mabye that gnome tweak tool even you can probably add folders to desktop,  as for Unity not sure
[03:19] <sebsebseb> !nounity | rhizmoe
[03:19] <xannen> ubuntu 11.10 networking not working after dist-upgrade.
[03:19] <godzuki> dajhorn: I just ask, because when I go to System Info -> Graphics, it lists my driver as unknown. But I know video-intel is instsalled.
[03:19] <reisio> RobotBot: from thunderbird to evolution?
[03:19] <rhizmoe> no, i mean in the dash
[03:19] <sebsebseb> rhizmoe: oh
[03:19] <rhizmoe> my entire menu was flattened
[03:19] <reisio> oh whoops
[03:19] <GI_Jack> I want gnome classic, unity doesn't do it for me
[03:19] <kesten_> Looking for help with broken python dpkg on ubuntu 11.04
[03:19] <GI_Jack> I use unity on my netbook
[03:19] <RobotBot> reisio: from evo to thunderbird
[03:20] <joshua__> Okay, I am using Ubuntu 11.04 (the Natty Narwhal), and ran the terminal command "echo $DESTOP_SESSION" and "gnome" was returned.  Is there any way to switch to Unity3D, or do I need to update to a newer version of Ubuntu?
[03:20] <reisio> you can keep using evolution if you want
[03:20] <Stingray88> almoxarife: alright that's done
[03:20] <almoxarife> Stingray88: you used 'purge' ?
[03:20] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes, it got rid of samba and the server-config-samba I believe
[03:20] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | glebihan
[03:20] <RobotBot> almoxarife: even rebooting didn't get that message to come up
[03:21] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | GI_Jack
[03:21] <sebsebseb> glebihan: wrong one
[03:21] <rdk> ellis, well, that didn't go well
[03:21] <dajhorn> godzuki: Look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, and look at the `xdpyinfo` command.  Check that the GLX and DRI extensions are enabled.  The drivers for built-in Intel video are pretty good.  They're probably working correctly.
[03:21] <almoxarife> Stingray88: do you know how to use synaptic?
[03:21] <GI_Jack> I think I might follow linux to XFCE
[03:21] <GI_Jack> err linus
[03:21] <sebsebseb> !nounity |  GI_Jack
[03:21] <ellis> rdk, what happened?
[03:21] <Stingray88> almoxarife: no, isn't that the update manager?
[03:21] <rdk> now it won't even boot into x, had to ctrl-alt f2 into another desktop and login then run startx
[03:22] <sandra> ubottu, would you happen to know how to get nautilus -gksu which allows for the righ mouse click "open as Administrator" function to work under Oneiric?
[03:22] <dajhorn> GI_Jack: I'm using Xubuntu.  It took me 15 minutes to make it look like the GNOME 2 desktop that I was using.
[03:22] <almoxarife> Stingray88: no, it's a the package manager gui
[03:22] <rdk> ellis, so far I am not impresed with 11.10 at all, thinking maybe I should just go back to 10.04 or 10.10
[03:22] <GI_Jack> alright thanks
[03:22] <sandra> that will teach me lol
[03:22] <Stingray88> almoxarife: how do I open it
[03:22] <reisio> rdk: what else are you thinking
[03:22] <sandra> teach me to run around in here w/out my reading glasses.
[03:22] <almoxarife> Stingray88: nevermind, let me find the package name you need
[03:23] <joshua__> !ask
[03:23] <nac-godfather> maybe now is a good time to try to build your own bleeding-edge desktop from SID.
[03:23] <ellis> rdk, give 11.04 a try if you haven't already. It's certainly a change from 10.x if you're just after some fresh scenery
[03:23] <Stingray88> almoxarife: will I still be able to use the server-config-samba gui? I don't like setting things up in the terminal when I don't have to
[03:23] <joshua__> !patience
[03:23] <joshua__> Haha.  <--- Lost
[03:23] <rdk> ellis, i might, i don't need the scenery as much, was just after a clean install and good multi-monitor support :)
[03:24] <almoxarife> Stingray88: install via apt-get            nautilus-share
[03:24] <popsch> I upgraded to oneiric four days ago. since then update-manager has never shown me any packages that would need upgrading. am I missing something?
[03:24] <ellis> rdk, can't really complain about 11.04's monitor support, and since you're not using Unity anyway then I imagine the differences won't be major
[03:25] <Stingray88> almoxarife: done
[03:25] <rdk> ellis, that is prob true
[03:25] <ellis> rdk, I've installed xfce in a last ditch attempt to get 11.10 working
[03:25] <Arcas> Im really liking gnome 3
[03:25] <Stingray88> almoxarife: wait no, that didn't work
[03:25] <Arcas> now if I could get the sound to work
[03:25] <almoxarife> Stingray88: I assume you know how to use nautilus as a folder/file browser?
[03:25] <Stingray88> almoxarife: no not really
[03:26] <rdk> ellis, hmm, that's an idea... how's it going? :)
[03:26] <almoxarife> Stingray88: how do you normally navigate the folders?
[03:26] <Stingray88> almoxarife: It can't find that package to install
[03:26] <scottj> anyone know an rss reader that has yahoo pipes style filtering/templating functionality? I've found several feeds that don't work with pipes so I thought I'd do it locally.
[03:26] <dajhorn> popsch: Probably not.  Not much changed this week.  My update log says that Monday was the last time anything in the base system changed.
[03:26] <sandra> ellis, if it's any consolation I found oneriric Xfce is a very nice and snappy OS
[03:26] <Stingray88> almoxarife: whatever the default file manager is
[03:26] <popsch> dajhorn, hm. a pity, because I experience lots of bugs with nautilus
[03:27] <ellis> sandra, seems nice so far. Business first though: have to get these monitors sorted
[03:27] <almoxarife> Stingray88: I guess I should have asked, you using ubuntu?
[03:27] <Stingray88> almoxarife: 11.04
[03:27] <popsch> dajhorn, but overall it's working :-) the bleeding edge.
[03:27] <ellis> rdk, falling at the first hurdle unfortunately. Catalyst won't open in super-user for some reason
[03:27] <rdk> ellis, I think 11.10 hates catalyst
[03:27] <dajhorn> popsch: I had to suck it up and learn XFCE.  I couldn't get GNOME the way I wanted it.
[03:27] <sandra> I finally managed to install 11.10 ...was disapointed that I  couldn't get  Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit edition to load on my laptop.
[03:28] <ellis> rdk, sure seems that way
[03:28] <almoxarife> Stingray88: you did or did not install nautilus-share?
[03:28] <Benwalburn> the guide that someone directed me to to install the broadcom driver manually either is not what i need or i did something wrong
[03:28] <Benwalburn> can someone walk me through?
[03:28] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I don't think I typed it in correctly hang on
[03:28] <popsch> dajhorn, I think 11.10 looks gorgeous with the theme and the cleaned up nautilus. I like it
[03:28] <almoxarife> Stingray88: nautilus-share
[03:28] <soreau> rdk: ellis: It doesn't have anything to do with the version of ubuntu. Most any proprietary drivers are problematic
[03:29] <sandra> Could someone kindly tell me how to open a root file manager under 11.10
[03:29] <ellis> rdk, at least xfce has let me set independent screen resolutions... not with Catalyst, mind you
[03:29] <Stingray88> almoxarife: it says it was already installed
[03:29] <ellis> soreau: I don't think that is the case though. It worked flawless in 11.04
[03:29] <almoxarife> Stingray88: cool
[03:29] <joshua__> So, I need some help getting Unity running.
[03:30] <s0ulburn> Im going through the cd install of Ubuntu server and i got a Debootstrap warning file:///cdrom/pool/main/z/zlib/zlib1g_1.2.3.3.dfsg-15ubuntu1_adm64.deb was corrupt. I looked it up and it looks like that is the runtime library for gzip if im not mistaken. Is it safe to proceed with install and just update or download the package after install???
[03:30] <soreau> ellis: ubuntu packages a different version of the driver every release, consistent with whatever AMD releases
[03:30] <almoxarife> Stingray88: now, open that file/folder browser, it should be nautilus and right click on a folder, do you see 'sharing' as an option?
[03:30] <caesar_> will i lose data when upgrading through the update manager?
[03:30] <rdk> ellis, soreau hmm, now there's something we haven't tried, an older release of catalyst
[03:30] <taglass> s0ulburn: Did you check the checksum of your download?
[03:30] <ellis> soreau: I installed 11.04 yesterday, 11.10 today. I doubt AMD have changed their release since then. Still, can't be certain, that may turn out to be the case
[03:31] <almoxarife> Stingray88:  a folder in your home folder
[03:31] <godzuki> dajhorn: will check it out. Thanks!
[03:31] <PurpleSmoke> caesar_ normally nope, but it's good idea to take a backup of your data before update.
[03:31] <dajhorn> godzuki: Welcome.
[03:31] <rdk> ellis, 11.04 probably uses an older version of catalysr
[03:31] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes, it's installing the sharing service now
[03:31] <s0ulburn> No its the same Iso ive been using in my VMs i just burned it to a disc
[03:31] <soreau> rdk: The only way you might be able to is get it from amd but it may not be compatible with the newer version of X
[03:31] <avsu> sandra: "gksudo nautilus" not working?
[03:31] <caesar_> PurpleSmoke: is it best to just do a clean install?
[03:31] <Stingray88> almoxarife: seems like its installing samba again
[03:31] <ellis> rdk, worth a shot. I also read that installing Catalyst through Terminal doesn't always give the latest version
[03:31] <PurpleSmoke> in my opinion yes
[03:31] <caesar_> ok
[03:31] <soreau> rdk: Also installing the driver outside of ubuntu repos may break your system
[03:31] <almoxarife> Stingray88: yes, but its deciding what it needs not you, let it be
[03:32] <soreau> rdk: The better option is to help the open radeon driver get better by filing bug reports
[03:32] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yup, I just restarted nautilus now
[03:32] <s0ulburn> I just used it to install UEC front end in a VM and didnt get this warning
[03:32] <sandra> avsu, let me try it brb
[03:32] <rdk> soreau, yeah, I've already broken it twice tonight, I am working on a clean install and I keep reinstalling :)
[03:32] <Benwalburn> can someone tell me how to manually install the broadcom driver? i have the tar file from the broadcom website, i just don't know what to do with it
[03:33] <almoxarife> Stingray88: pick a folder again and right click, your options should include 'everyone' , you need to choose it for ease of use
[03:33] <soreau> rdk: Also FWIW, real channels like #radeon may take several hours or even a day to get a response from a developer
[03:33] <ellis> rdk, I've been doing the same thing. I swear installs take longer then I remember...
[03:33] <soreau> rdk: You didn't stay, so no one will respond
[03:33] <chintan> why all realeases like 11.04 , 11.10 ,12.04 ,12.10 ?
[03:34] <Stingray88> almoxarife: there is no everyone option
[03:34] <Stingray88> almoxarife: there is a guess access option
[03:34] <chintan> any reason behind this
[03:34] <chintan> ?
[03:34] <rdk> soreau, yes, unfortuantely I have to keep rebooting as I break things, I need to sign on from a different comptuer and try
[03:34] <almoxarife> Stingray88: guest
[03:34] <Stingray88> almoxarife: guest*
[03:34] <ellis> chintan: [yy].[mm]
[03:34] <almoxarife> Stingray88: guest
[03:34] <spikebike> chintan: heh, because it's a 6 month release schedule in april ni oct
[03:34] <chintan> ohhh thanks
[03:35] <chintan> yes i get
[03:35] <ellis> rdk, do you know how to open Catalyst from the command line?
[03:35] <rdk> have to call it a night for today, thx for tips, we'll getit wokring somehow
[03:35] <ellis> chintan: no problem
[03:35] <rdk> ellis, nope
[03:35] <ellis> rdk, ok. hope it works out well, cya
[03:35] <MrSassyPants> is there something like smartmontools for sd* devices?
[03:35] <almoxarife> Stingray88: then restart the machine, and check on the windows machine, you should see the ubuntu machine and the folder as a choice
[03:35] <soreau> ellis: amdcccle
[03:35] <Stingray88> almoxarife: 'net usershare' returned error 255:net userhare add: cannot convert name "everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running
[03:36] <godzuki> dajhorn: Yup, you were right
[03:36] <marconius> hello. i am having problems with Ubuntu, am I at the right place?
[03:36] <almoxarife> Stingray88: did you restart the ubuntu machine?
[03:36] <ellis> soreau: command not found unfortunately!
[03:36] <Stingray88> almoxarife: no because I can't create the share
[03:37] <chintan> i installed ubuntu 11.10
[03:37] <Stingray88> almoxarife: that is the error I get when I try to create the share
[03:37] <chintan> & its very good
[03:37] <almoxarife> Stingray88: log out then back in
[03:37] <ellis> soreau: ahah, no, my bad. I miscounted how many 'c's there were. Thanks
[03:37] <almoxarife> Stingray88: on the ubuntu
[03:37] <spikebike> chintan: how big a screen?
[03:37] <soreau> ellis: AMD Catalyst Control Center Linux Edition
[03:37] <muhomor> chintan, did you smoke weeds?
[03:38] <soreau> ! ot | muhomor
[03:38] <chintan> means ?
[03:38] <muhomor> weed
[03:38] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I get the same error
[03:38] <ellis> soreau: makes sense. I was trying 'sudo amdcccle' to try and force it into super-user mode, but it doesn't seem to be making a difference
[03:38] <sandra> avsu, it works when I press alt F2 but what I wanted was the right mouse click desktop feature "Open as Administrator" function to work under Oneiric it works under Natty.
[03:38] <bobbert> marconius: tip: just say what you need help with and someone will help.
[03:38] <chintan> no
[03:39] <soreau> ellis: You should use the open radeon driver if at all possible
[03:39] <chintan> muhomor : no man
[03:39] <almoxarife> Stingray88: you logged out?
[03:39] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes I logged out and back in
[03:39] <Stingray88> almoxarife: tried to make the shared folder again and I get that error
[03:39] <zmbmartin> So is there any awesome fully compatiable themes for 11.10?
[03:39] <joshua__> How would I go about getting Unity to work on my version of Ubuntu? (11.04)
[03:39] <almoxarife> Stingray88: you checked every box?
[03:39] <avsu> sandra: i see...
[03:39] <chintan> very good graphics
[03:39] <chintan> & docs also
[03:40] <marconius> Ubuntu started acting strange last week and I don't know how to debug the problem, because I am not really getting any errors
[03:40] <Stingray88> almoxarife: share this folder, allow others to create and delete files, guest access… all checked
[03:40] <sandra> avsu, any ideas you might have would be greatly appreciated.
[03:40] <ellis> soreau: it's acting very strangely in xfce. 'AMD Catalyst Control Center' opens normally but 'AMD Catalyst Control Center (Administrative)' does nothing
[03:40] <almoxarife> Stingray88: restart the ubuntu
[03:41] <sandra> avsu, I enjoy that feature I 1st discovered this feature on Linuxmint 11 which is based on ubuntu.
[03:41] <ellis> soreau: I'm starting to think I'm a bit over my head and would be better off reverting to 11.04 which I know works. Is there any way of reporting my problems to the relevant people, if it'd be helpful to them?
[03:41] <soreau> ellis: The open radeon driver doesn't use amdcccle
[03:41] <bobbert> marconius: whats it doing?
[03:41] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' *.jpg
[03:41] <PotentChili> you're probably asked this a lot.. but why did they remove the Fonts and Icons, etc settings from Appearance?...
[03:41] <complexity> how do you recursively search all directories with that command
[03:42] <complexity> please
[03:42] <complexity> save me a lot of time.
[03:42] <soreau> ellis: Before installing fglrx/catalyst/proprietary/amd driver, the open radeon driver is already installed and working by default
[03:42] <soreau> complexity: First, don't run as root
[03:42] <complexity> oh
[03:43] <complexity> good point
[03:43] <complexity> next?
[03:43] <marconius> first of all, booting is slow. then the volume controls have been disabled (my audio device doesn't even show up in the Sound Settings), the pc freezes for 5-20 seconds every once in a while. I though the upgrade to 11.10 would fix this problem, but it didn't. I got one error once from HPlip saying that the there was no system tray. On another occasion I got a gconf error. its pretty frustrating. Does this seem familiar to anyone?
[03:43] <soreau> complexity: Second, use bash: for i in ./*.jpg; do mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i"; done
[03:43] <Stingray88> almoxarife: now I don't have the option to click guest access at all
[03:43] <avsu> sandra: I have no idea why this feature is not in newest distro :P Maybe writing script is possible?
[03:43] <ellis> soreau: The problem I had was that it would not allow virtual desktops larger than ~2500px, whereas mine's 1680+1280.
[03:43] <soreau> ellis: Sure it does
[03:43] <almoxarife> Stingray88: what folder you trying to share?
[03:44] <Stingray88> almoxarife: a folder on my desktop
[03:44] <Stingray88> almoxarife: eventually I want to share 3 USB drives as well
[03:44] <bobbert> marconius: this sounds like usual upgrade problems. i have never managed to upgrade ubuntu and find doing new install far easier and safer. are additional drivers installed for audio device?
[03:44] <sandra> avsu, I was able to install this feature in Natty.
[03:45] <complexity> soreau, I've been on IRC for 8 years and never got such perfect straight forward help, now I can drink a beer.
[03:45] <sandra> unfortunately it does not work under Oneiric.
[03:45] <almoxarife> Stingray88: lets try to share 'documents' in your home folder, what happens?
[03:45] <dr_willis> Stingray88:  may be easier to edit the smb.conf and setup the shares
[03:45] <soreau> complexity: Don't you mean, you'll buy me one next time.. aw, nm
[03:45] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I get a very long error
[03:46] <ellis> soreau: This is the error I get: "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied. Required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2960, 1050)... ...maximum=(1680, 1680).
[03:46] <rhizmoe> noticed an interesting thing in the filemanager, if you click an arrow to expand a directory, you have to move the mouse before it will listen to another click
[03:46] <tanath> i can't upgrade without removing pidgin because pidgin depends on perlapi-5.12.4 which doesn't exist in repos
[03:46] <ellis> soreau: that is through System Settings >> Displays
[03:46] <soreau> ellis: Pastebin the output of 'xrandr' and 'glxinfo|grep renderer'
[03:47] <Stingray88> dr_willis: what would be really easy is if the damn server-config-samba gui I've been using for months worked like it always did
[03:47] <marconius> bobbert: I did not install any additional drivers. how do I check if there are?
[03:48] <bobbert> marconius: then they wont be activated. specs of system?
[03:48] <ellis> soreau: "xrandr" - pastebin.com/HAbLXUU9
[03:48] <complexity> soreau, that too
[03:49] <Philpass> the internet connection for my ubuntu 11 was fine until yesterday i type this to my terminal dskp - ppp..............and edit the pppconfig
[03:49] <soreau> complexity: or 'thanks' or somethin' (sheesh, now I need a beer)
[03:49] <sanzo> Anyone use Ushare?
[03:49] <Philpass> anyone know how to resolve it ?
[03:49] <ellis> soreau: I'm having to install mesa-utils for the other command.
[03:50] <tanath> seem i had a package held back for some reason. aptitude to the rescue
[03:50] <marconius> bobbert: its an HP dv5 laptop with intel dual core 2.6 GHZ
[03:50] <Stingray88> god damnit
[03:50] <Stingray88> now I can't even find server-config-samba package
[03:50] <rabbi1> guys help, after changing few things in compiz, my titlebar is disappeared.
[03:50] <joshua__> Does anyone here know what I need to do to troubleshoot why my Ubuntu 11.04 installation booted with the gnome interface, instead of Unity?
[03:51] <Stingray88> I just installed it like 10 minute ago… how can ubuntu not find it all the sudden to install again?
[03:51] <marconius> bobbert: actually, funnily enough, I can't even get to the system settings through the "Dash Home"
[03:51] <ellis> rabbil: same problem happened to me! Unfortunately I don't know the solution though, except to use Unity 2D for the time being
[03:51] <maulana> hai.....
[03:51] <OerHeks> !language | Stingray88
[03:51] <maulana> any body at this chanel, am need to know did ubuntu have recovery all configruation to default !!!!
[03:52] <rabbi1> ellis: was not using unity, was on gnome
[03:52] <Stingray88> It's pretty hard to keep it family friendly when ubuntu makes no sense what so ever
[03:52] <Philpass> anyone know how to resolve it ?
[03:52] <almoxarife> Stingray88: gadmin-samba ?????? is that what you had before?
[03:52] <Stingray88> almoxarife: server-config-samba
[03:52] <almoxarife> Stingray88: no such animal
[03:52] <Stingray88> yes there is
[03:53] <Stingray88> google it
[03:53] <bobbert> marconius: you would be best to back up data to external drive and re-install. upgrades do not fix problems. you're not alone, i am glad ubuntu comes out every six months because that's how long it takes me to wreck my install. is re-install possible for you?
[03:53] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I literally just installed server-config-samba like 15 minutes ago
[03:53] <ellis> soreau: glxinfo says - "OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series'
[03:53] <soreau> maulana: When you install ubuntu, everything is default
[03:53] <ellis> soreau: Seems in order, it's a ATI 5770.
[03:53] <douggle> is alsa and/or jack the only alternative to pulseaudio?
[03:53] <Philpass> the internet connection for my ubuntu 11 was fine until yesterday i type this to my terminal dskp - ppp..............and edit the pppconfig
[03:53] <soreau> ellis: So you have fglrx installed..
[03:54] <marconius> bobbert: yes, but I wanted to avoid it. I reinstalled already once two weeks ago. This is getting silly now. Should I just install 10.04 LTS to be sure that I have a more stable experience?
[03:54] <glitch-mod> Just upgraded my laptop at first the sound worked not it doesn't detect my sound card, please help.
[03:54] <almoxarife> Stingray88: the package is 'samba'
[03:55] <maulana> soreau, am have configuration anything but right know am have so many error on my ubuntu, and am need it back to default, couse right know am used ubuntu clasic that no good for me am love ubuntu nuty
[03:55] <Stingray88> almoxarife: no this is another package, I was saying the wrong thing
[03:55] <godzuki> Didn't X-Chat used to come as part of Ubuntu? Any reason it got pulled? I know it's old
[03:55] <Stingray88> almoxarife: system-config-samba
[03:55] <Stingray88> almoxarife: that is what I meant
[03:55] <ellis> soreau: Yes. The virtual-size-error I referred to was given by the 'Displays' menu with System Settings, both before and after I installed fglrx
[03:55] <soreau> maulana: Try reinstalling
[03:55] <soreau> ellis: Does it work with the default radeon driver?
[03:55] <maulana> soreau, that will make my data lost
[03:56] <almoxarife> Stingray88: that does exist
[03:56] <maulana> soreau, and what you mean reinstalling ?
[03:56] <rabbi1> hey, got it, just run compiz and from preference reset to default and then restart, but got to set on themes from scratch
[03:56] <ellis> soreau: It didn't when I first installed, that's why I resorted to Additional Drivers
[03:56] <soreau> maulana: Back it up from a live sesion first
[03:56] <Stingray88> almoxarife: exactly… and I used that to setup my samba shares a week ago on the same EXACT version of ubuntu
[03:56] <soreau> ellis: That seems strange..
[03:56] <Stingray88> almoxarife: now this week on the same software… it's not working
[03:56] <soreau> ellis: Maybe you can try asking in #radeon after removing fglrx
[03:57] <glitch-mod> It is being reported when I check 'lspci'
[03:57] <glitch-mod> Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[03:57] <maulana> sorry am soreau am not have ubuntu cd or iso of ubuntu, and my internet conection so slowly, am need reconfigrution that will the best choise
[03:57] <bobbert> marconius: not any more stable in my experience, pick an edition you like and don't monkey with system packages is the ticket. if it's a work machine put 10.04 on and keep that until it is out of support. my 11.04 has lasted a while. do you experiment with the system and packages?
[03:57] <glitch-mod> but no sound :(
[03:57] <maulana> or thebest ide for me soreau
[03:57] <ellis> soreau: That's what made me think it was a problem with 11.10, especially since rdk seemed to be having the exact problem. I think for the time being I will revert to 11.04 and see how things go. I appreciate your help, thanks
[03:57] <joshua__> Okay, I have a new question. When I ran the command to see if my system is capable of running Unity, this is the output.  Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/jgNWjkDT
[03:58] <soreau> maulana: Why did you break it?
[03:58] <romeo_> Stingray88: I see it in my package manager. I assume you've refreshed by clicking 'reload' or apt-get update?
[03:58] <soreau> ellis: rdk said it worked with the radeon driver.. he just had cursor corruption
[03:58] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I just purged it an reinstalled it
[03:59] <maulana> soreau, break what that mean
[03:59] <Stingray88> romeo: I just purged it and reinstalled
[03:59] <soreau> ellis: Typically open drivesr JustWork. Proprietary drivers often require configuration, especially in xorg.conf
[03:59] <Stingray88> romeo: but it doesn't matter… I've installed samba exactly as I did one week ago and it's not working at all
[03:59] <rabbi1> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-reset-gnome-panels-compiz.html
[03:59] <soreau> ellis: You may just need to add some mode lines, for example
[04:00] <ellis> soreau: Oh ok, well I will give it another shot later on, thanks again. For now, it's 5am and I have lectures at 9... Computers kill my sleeping pattern :)
[04:00] <spikebike> hrm, usb-creator-gtk seems to install a bootloader that assumes graphics.  Unfortunately ubuntu-server ISOs don't have graphics enabled.  Anyone know of a workaround to get ubuntu-server installable from an usb thumb drive?
[04:00] <soreau> ellis: You can try configuring it with xrandr though since fglrx supposedly supports it wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[04:01] <almoxarife> Stingray88: quite a while back I went thru the samba server install and config to just share folders with another machine, I never got the confs right, I found a link that told me to use the method I suggested, and my problems were solved, btw, the link insisted on everything that was samba had to go prior to the fix, I didn't do it as it stipulated and was still in the same situation you are in, my point is this, once I followed t
[04:01] <marconius> bobbert: I may experiment a little, but I don't know if what I installed are considered system packages: HPLIP, python image library, virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper ... that's about it... well apart from the python packages installed with pip adn easy-install into the virtualenvs. Nothing crazy.
[04:02] <ellis> soreau: that's given me some light bedtime reading :) Bye
[04:02] <arghx> spikebike: unetbootin
[04:02] <hase> hello, I am wondering if it is possible to share internet from my laptop which has wifi to my pc that does not through ethernet
[04:02] <iron> Guys, anyone can help me with this problem: "installing fglrx (post-release updates) fails" ?
[04:03] <arghx> !nat | hase
[04:03] <spikebike> arghx: ah, yeah guess I could do a netboot based install
[04:03] <bobbert> marconius: sometimes ubuntu just slips. i dont know why, but i find i have to re-install about every six months :(
[04:03] <intangir> is there a way to still get a window bar? i really miss the window/task bar thing?
[04:03] <Stingray88> almoxarife: Just one week ago… one week ago. Using the exact same software… I did sudo apt-get install samba, then sudo apt-get install system-config-samba… then I added the folders I wanted shared in that gui… and bam, it just worked. How does this all the sudden not work one week later?
[04:03] <hase> !nat
[04:03] <glitch-mod> How can I troubleshoot a sound issue?
[04:03] <spikebike> arghx: heh, ah, nevermind it's actually a project
[04:04] <marconius> bobbert: do you have a seperate home partition?
[04:04] <hase> uboto doesn't know anything about nat
[04:04] <arghx> hase: NAT/ip masquerading is what you want
[04:04] <Iron> Guys, anyone can help me with this problem: "installing fglrx (post-release updates) fails" ?
[04:04] <rnigam> hi I have a bunch of host os's and their guests all running on ubuntu 10.10 . I am primarily using open source Xen Hypervisor. I have been wondering if I should upgrade them all to 11.10 . Just wanted to check if there are any obvious hurdles or major changes that I might have to worry about.
[04:04] <Stingray88> almoxarife: this is pointless… I'm about ready to completely reinstall ubuntu and try again
[04:04] <Stingray88> almoxarife: even thought I just installed it a couple hours ago
[04:04] <avsu> glitch-mod: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[04:04] <dajhorn> Iron: Try to install it at a terminal prompt and pastebin the entire build transcript.  Also, don't repeat your question that quickly.
[04:05] <arghx> Iron: there is an error before that. and: how do you install drivers? with a file from amd.com?
[04:05] <glitch-mod> avsu, Thank you
[04:05] <Stingray88> This just makes no sense what so ever
[04:05] <nosbig> Stingray88: Was there an update to samba in the last week?  Was the configuration file changed?  Have you looked at the samba configuration files to ensure they show what you expect?
[04:05] <almoxarife> Stingray88: for the love of the saints, start synaptic from a terminal with 'gksu synaptic'
[04:06] <Iron> dajhorn, arghx : Sorry guys, I will pastebin the log file. Gimme a second...
[04:06] <joe040288> hi i just install 11.10 and the propritary drivers for nvidia but i cant seem to get compiz working
[04:06] <bobbert> marconius: no, on same partition as OS. would probably be a good idea though, now i think of it. once i did something to ubuntu and you went power button > shutdown and nothing happened. that was annoying.
[04:06] <arghx> Stingray88: what is your actual error message?
[04:07] <home> so ubuntu
[04:07] <hase> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/16 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE??? will that do what i want
[04:07] <home> is officially kinda crap
[04:07] <Stingray88> almoxarife: when I do it your way it's very long
[04:07] <home> 10.10 just broke
[04:07] <home> I am ditching ubuntu -.-
[04:07] <Philosoraptor> I have an external harddrive that won't let me write to it at all, says it is read only
[04:07] <dajhorn> rnigam: Xen is back in the Oneiric kernel.  Keep the old kernels intact if you upgrade.
[04:07] <home> tested 11.10
[04:07] <almoxarife> Stingray88: alrighty then. good luck
[04:07] <home> which is crap
[04:07] <arghx> hase: you said you want to use your wlan, not a ppp connection?
[04:08] <Benwalburn> how do i install the broadcom driver manually using the tar file from the broadcom website?
[04:08] <bobbert> home: if you gonna say that i recommend #rage
[04:08] <arghx> Philosoraptor: check if it's mounted read only (mount) or if the permissions don't allow your user to write
[04:08] <Stingray88> almoxarife: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running
[04:08] <Stingray88> almoxarife: that is the error
[04:08] <joe040288> Benwalburn, you probably have to use ndfswrapper
[04:08] <arghx> Benwalburn: broadcom.com has a howto/readme
[04:08] <romeo_> home: try LInux Mint. Based on Ubuntu, but some issues I was having seem to be fixed.
[04:09] <home> took a look at it
[04:09] <home> not impressed
[04:09] <romeo_> hmm. To each his own i guess.
[04:09] <Benwalburn> i didn't understand the readme :( i tried
[04:09] <home> might stop using Ubuntu for  a while
[04:09] <almoxarife> Stingray88: is smdt running?
[04:09] <arghx> !enter | home
[04:09] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I don't know
[04:09] <Iron> dajhorn, arghx : This is the jockey.log file it refers to... http://pastebin.com/D9QFtn81
[04:09] <home> go with Archlinux maybe. or even Gentoo
[04:09] <Iron> dajhorn, arghx : I am going to generate again the error
[04:09] <kylesum> i do recommend Arch highly, i have it on my desktop. ubuntu on the lappy.
[04:10] <histo> I use arch as well
[04:10] <romeo_> hey, if you can figure out Gentoo...
[04:10] <histo> romeo_: if you can use arch you can use gentoo no problem
[04:10] <joe040288> yea gentoo is a bit hmm weird
[04:10] <histo> I just got tired of emerging every damn thing
[04:10] <bobbert> home: go to #rage. noone here cares. this is not the place to moan about ubuntu. this is the place for ubuntu supptort.
[04:10] <Philosoraptor> arghx: /dev/sdb2 on /media/BHS type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[04:10] <rabbi1> i reset my compiz and gnome, now alt+tab is not working :( any help
[04:10] <home> bobbert
[04:10] <home> 11.10
[04:10] <spikebike> arghx: every install a server with unetbootin?  I was hoping to install ont a /dev/md0 which afaict the ubuntu-dessktop varients can't handle
[04:10] <home> I dont like UNITY
[04:10] <home> or GNOME
[04:10] <FloodBot1> home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <joe040288> then install kubuntu
[04:11] <determinology> OR windows
[04:11] <kuchiku> can anyone recommed me any dialer for adsl ?
[04:11] <home> Kubuntu eh hmm how is it
[04:11] <home> determinology, already got windows.
[04:11] <histo> kuchiku: pppoe
[04:11] <sianhulo> people, i heard that you can resize a ntfs partition with gparted without data loss
[04:11] <histo> !ppp | kuchiku
[04:11] <determinology> oh ok
[04:11] <rabbi1> home: kubuntu is KDE
[04:11] <Philosoraptor> arghx: i can't move things to it as sudo either
[04:11] <Edisto> damn this upgrade is going slow...
[04:11] <joe040288> altho i got tired of all the issues i kept having with kde so i switched to genome
[04:11] <sianhulo> is that true?
[04:11] <home> rabbi1, how is it?
[04:11] <arghx> spikebike: what has the program you use to create the install medium to do with what installer of ubunut you suse. you are confusing things badly
[04:11] <histo> kuchiku: network-manager should be able to handle your dsl connection also
[04:11] <home> compared to ubuntu
[04:11] <histo> !pppoe | kuchiku
[04:11] <determinology> I would pick gnome over unity tho
[04:12] <rabbi1> home: no idea, used long time back, check few screenshots
[04:12] <bobbert> home: are you asking for a distro recomendation?
[04:12] <dajhorn> sianhulo: Yes, it works.  gparted calls the ntfsresize program to do the actual work.
[04:12] <joe040288> altho i realllllllllyyyyyyy miss how easy kde was to customize
[04:12] <kylesum> does the old ubuntu classic trick still work in 11.10?
[04:12] <home> bobbert, sure.
[04:12] <rabbi1> i reset my compiz and gnome, now alt+tab is not working :( any help
[04:12] <glitch-mod> How do I find out the name of my sound module?
[04:12] <sianhulo> dajhorn, thank you very much
[04:12] <joe040288> kylesum, yes
[04:12] <histo> !dsl | kuchiku
[04:12] <Iron> dajhorn, arghx : this one has been generated after the error: http://pastebin.com/1dd6ndYR
[04:12] <kylesum> joe04288 thanks.
[04:12] <histo> what's with the bot tonight
[04:12] <dajhorn> sianhulo: Welcome.
[04:12] <joe040288> kylesum, np
[04:12] <spikebike> arghx: umm, how so?  Yes I want to create a usb thumb drive I can install ubuntu-server with
[04:12] <Stingray88> almoxarife: how do check if smbd is running
[04:13] <sianhulo> i have another question, my BIOS  does support usb boot, however it always give me error doing that way
[04:13] <almoxarife> Stingray88: with gnome system monitor
[04:13] <Edisto> hmmm.. i thought 11.10 was gonna look more like fedora or macos
[04:13] <joe040288> is there a way to enable the 3d effect for unity cause i cant seem to get it working
[04:13] <rabbi1> sianhulo: upgrade your bios
[04:13] <sianhulo> i 1 year ago(or so) asked here, and somebody told how to boot from my usb with grub, and IT WORKED, howeb
[04:13] <home> Edisto, it is becoming more macish
[04:13] <Iron> sianhulo, where do you create your installation stick?
[04:13] <Stingray88> almoxarife: it's not, how do I start it
[04:14] <bobbert> home: then just say that. gentoo is good if you're a technical user. kubuntu is not very good, and hard  to get used to. xubuntu is ok. try distrowatch.com has good reviews of lots of distros.
[04:14] <sianhulo> however, i lost that config
[04:14] <almoxarife> Stingray88: that's the thing, it should be running
[04:14] <OerHeks> Kubuntu is great, bobbert
[04:14] <sianhulo> Iron, i dunno, ubuntu make it itself and it works in another sistem
[04:14] <sianhulo> rabbi1, it is already...
[04:14] <Stingray88> almoxarife: if you have samba installed it should always be running?
[04:14] <simpleblue> i might give kubuntu a try
[04:14] <Edisto> it looks the same as 11.04 though =D just different icons
[04:14] <home> bobbert,  I personally might go gentoo or archlinux, but I like it as a media production desktop.
[04:14] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: speaking of upgrading bios. Do you know how I can upgrade bios for my hp envy 17 without a windows environment?
[04:14] <rabbi1> sianhulo: u trying to install ubuntu ?
[04:14] <almoxarife> Stingray88: I guess not in your case
[04:14] <sianhulo> i'm trying to update it
[04:15] <romeo_> sianhulo: whats the error you get?
[04:15] <joe040288> Edisto, most manufaters have a bios cd that you boot up
[04:15] <Iron> sianhulo, hummmm... you can try unetbootin and make sure you have it formatted in FAT32
[04:15] <Stingray88> almoxarife: how do I force it to start then
[04:15] <Philosoraptor> arghx: any ideas?
[04:15] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: never exp on hp. got to check their specific site for bios upgrade
[04:15] <sianhulo> i'm a mess with cds so i wanna update it through usb
[04:15] <nosbig> home: Another option to try if you want multimedia production with some stability...  Debian Wheezy/Testing with the Debian Multimedia repositories added...
[04:15] <rabbi1> sianhulo: then why you need bios ?
[04:15] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: yeah it says windows required. I tried a few things to know avail. Thanks anyways
[04:15] <sianhulo> Iron,  i've tried with that, with the default of ubuntu and at least 2 more
[04:16] <bobbert> oerheks: i like the interface, but dont like the one click to open thing and the widgets. i also think theme is outdated. i am not condoning or hating it i am merely stating what my experience is with it, that it confused me as a new user.
[04:16] <sianhulo> neither worked
[04:16] <bobbert> home: it?
[04:16] <kuchiku> how do i know i'm using kde or something else
[04:16] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: then install windows, upgrade bios then install ubuntu
[04:16] <sianhulo> romeo_, it only shows "boot error"(THE BIOS)
[04:16] <Iron> sianhulo, what kinf of error does it give?
[04:16] <Iron> kind*
[04:16] <dajhorn> Iron: The log says that the fglrx module was successfully compiled, but it seems like it didn't match the PCI identifier of the hardware.  What kind of ATI/AMD video card do you have in the computer?
[04:16] <sianhulo> Iron, shows output "boot error"
[04:17] <Stingray88> how do I force samba to start
[04:17] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: I don't want to loose my ubuntu install I got going. Doesn't windows want the whole hd.
[04:17] <Stingray88> does anyone know?
[04:17] <sianhulo> however, it works by grub, but i lost the configurtion
[04:17] <almoxarife> Stingray88: by undoing everything that may be samba related and then installing nautilus-share
[04:17] <Iron> dajhorn, I have a Mobility Radeon 5650 HD
[04:17] <sianhulo> somebody know how to add the option?
[04:17] <Philosoraptor> Any time i try to change permissions for this read only external harddrive, it says I can't because it is read only T_T
[04:17] <kylesum> has anyone installed nautilus-open-terminal on 11.10?
[04:17] <nosbig> Stingray88: service samba start?
[04:17] <romeo_> sianhulo: ah. i know a system of mine is a pain to boot off usb. It doesnt pick it up as a removable device, but as a harddrive. just a matter of changing the boot order of my harddrives. sound possible
[04:17] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I already tried doing purge on samba and system-config-samba but all of my configurations remain
[04:18] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: nothing, just goahead and do it. it's always better to have your bios upgraded once in 2 years
[04:18] <Stingray88> nosbig: unrecognized service… and yes, it's installed
[04:18] <bobbert> stingray88: /etc/init.d/samba restart. i think
[04:18] <sianhulo> romeo_, yep, mine tells that either, it's with my hardisk, however, that doesn't help
[04:18] <almoxarife> Stingray88: tell me when you are staring at synaptic
[04:19] <Stingray88> bobbert: no such file or directory
[04:19] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I am already
[04:19] <almoxarife> Stingray88: see search bar?
[04:19] <Iron> sianhulo, no clue... if you had tried another apps and it works on another systems...
[04:19] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes
[04:19] <almoxarife> Stingray88: type samba
[04:19] <rabbi1> solved all my display problems in 15 mins, great ! thanks to forum, #ubuntu and ubuntu
[04:19] <bobbert> stingray88: ouch. i cant remember it!  :'(
[04:19] <romeo_> sianhulo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB - that sound helpful?
[04:20] <Stingray88> almoxarife: ok
[04:20] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: so you are saying I can install windows without blowing up my ubuntu install?
[04:20] <rabbi1> romeo_: if his bios doesn't support usb then that is of no use
[04:20] <Grecoo> Hey, do you know how to start with gnome3 on 11.10?
[04:20] <Grecoo> i couldn't do it
[04:20] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: yes, you will just blowup the boot config file, that you can reset it later
[04:20] <almoxarife> Stingray88: what do you see installed? on left side click on installed
[04:21] <Iron> Grecoo, here it started the last logged in session....
[04:21] <Edisto> i thought gnome3 was what 11.10 was using....
[04:21] <arghx> zmbmartin: you can, but you will need to reinstall grub afterwards
[04:21] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: awesome I will work on that. Thanks
[04:21] <bobbert> grecoo: go to gnome.org and it will have install instruction for ubuntu.
[04:21] <joe040288> having trouble getting 3d effects working on 11.10 installed nvidia drivers and compiz settings manager but no matter what i change nothing works
[04:21] <Grecoo> ok, thanks
[04:21] <sianhulo> romeo_,  it seems, but i don't quite understand it xD, in fact, english isn't my primary language...
[04:21] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: before doing so, just keep the solution ready to recover your grub....
[04:21] <Iron> Grecoo, actually, you can install from the Software Center
[04:21] <joe040288> Edisto, no its using unity but u can use genome 3 with the ubuntu classic trick
[04:21] <itaylor57> !notunity +
[04:21] <nosbig> How have the upgrades gone?  Fairly smoothly?  Any major problems found so far?
[04:21] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: I can do that from a ubuntu live usb right?
[04:21] <arghx> joe040288: is GLX hardware assisted?
[04:22] <joe040288> arghx, no sure
[04:22] <arghx> joe040288: then find out
[04:22] <Grecoo> i thinked that it came by defect
[04:22] <arghx> zmbmartin: yes
[04:22] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: guess so. be prepared with all the situation..
[04:22] <zmbmartin> arghx: Thanks
[04:22] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: Thanks
[04:22] <Stingray88> almoxarife: samba, system-config-samba, samba-common, samba-common-bin, libwbclinet0, libpam-smbpass, python-smbc, smbclient, nautilus-share, libsmbclient, gnome-system-tools
[04:22] <paulnm> Hey, my searches haven't come up with anything.  Is there a way to make upgrade-manager download-only?
[04:23] <OerHeks> Stingray88, to check if samba is running > service smbd status
[04:23] <Philosoraptor> sooo arghx any ideas?
[04:23] <arghx> paulnm: apt-get can do that
[04:23] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: you won't loose anything other than grub, and depends on your FS/ Drive Structure... So i have no idea how is yours, need to understand your situation and you are the best person to judge that
[04:23] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: conclusion is can be done.
[04:23] <joe040288> arghx, no looks like its software assisted
[04:23] <arghx> Philosoraptor: need more info. error messages, permissions of files, etc
[04:23] <Stingray88> oerheks: warning: fake initctl called, doing nothing.
[04:23] <dajhorn> Iron: I'm looking for the supported hardware list of the latest Catalyst driver to check whether your GPU is supported.
[04:23] <arghx> joe040288: then your nvidia drives are not installed corretcly. however: how do you know it's software only?
[04:23] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: Yeah I will take all that into consideration.
[04:23] <Iron> dajhorn, ok, thanks
[04:24] <paulnm> arghx: yeah, but then I have to manually change the sources, then back again afterwards.  I was hoping upgrade-manager finally had that capability.
[04:24] <almoxarife> Stingray88: complete remove 'nautilus-share and samba'
[04:24] <Iron> dajhorn, as it is offered here in the drivers app, it should be...
[04:24] <Philosoraptor> arghx: mount paste: /dev/sdb2 on /media/BHS type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[04:24] <arghx> paulnm: no you don't have to change anything. updsate manager and apt-get use the same sources.lost
[04:24] <joe040288> arghx, i looked at the nvidia setting manager and i think its software assited but i cant tell for sure
[04:25] <Hdale85> do you think a dist upgrade will go smoothly going from ubuntu server 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS?
[04:25] <Philosoraptor> arghx: when i try moving anything to it it says "Error while copying to "BHS". The destination is read-only."
[04:25] <arghx> joe040288: you look in the wrong place. Xorg log or glxconfig is the place
[04:25] <paulnm> arghx: Oops, I meant when upgrading distro versions.
[04:25] <joe040288> arghx, ok
[04:25] <arghx> paulnm: same applies. what is your actual problem you want to solve?
[04:26] <Stingray88> almoxarife: OK, completely removed those
[04:26] <almoxarife> Stingray88: now what do you see?
[04:26] <Stingray88> almoxarife: that those packages aren't installed
[04:27] <arghx> Stingray88: and are they purged too or not?
[04:27] <Hdale85> really don't want to screw up my raid array upgrading lol
[04:27] <almoxarife> Stingray88: what is left showing in 'installed' with 'samba' in the search box
[04:27] <Asad2005> I have started liferea and it seems to have started minimized to tray, i dont see it now how do i see the application and change its prefrences to not attach itself to pannel
[04:27] <arghx> almoxarife: hint: dpkg -l |grep samba
[04:28] <paulnm> arghx: If update-manager doesn't have the option, then it doesn't really matter.  In the past, I've changed the sources to the new release, apt-get/aptitude downloaded updates, then put the sources back.  When actually running upgrade-manager later on, it still downloaded more files.
[04:28] <joe040288> arghx, in the xorg log file it says it loaded the glx module but it doesnt say if it is hardware or software assisted
[04:28] <almoxarife> arghx: please feel free to assist, I won't go terminal until i have to
[04:28] <arghx> paulnm: makes no sense. why only download? and why would you ever change back?
[04:28] <Stingray88> almoxarife: libpam-smbpass, libsmbclient, libwbclient0, samba-common, samba-common-bin, smbclient, gnome-system-tools, python-smbc
[04:29] <Iron> Do you guys know of any software that is as good as Picasa for quick image "enhancing" ?
[04:29] <arghx> luminae: he doesn't tell me the error so I cannot help. just wanted to point out a possible problem when you reinstall samba and still use the old config in which case the problem won't be solved)
[04:29] <Iron> I don't like Picasa having to use "wine" to run
[04:29] <almoxarife> Stingray88: complete remove samba-common, samba-common-bin, smbclient
[04:30] <dajhorn> Iron: Search the Ubuntu Forums for your part number.  The 8.881 release should be compatible with your hardware, but it can break during upgrades.  (ie: Upstream from AMD or downstream from Natty.)  Past that, you've got me stumped.
[04:30] <Asad2005> How do i start an application directly maximized from terminal
[04:30] <joe040288> arghx, and glxconfig doesnt seem to work
[04:30] <Iron> dajhorn, part number?
[04:31] <Stingray88> almoxarife: done
[04:31] <dajhorn> Iron: Radeon 5650
[04:31] <arghx> !doesn't work
[04:31] <Iron> dajhorn, ah, alrite! Thanks man for the effort
[04:31] <dajhorn> Iron: Np.
[04:31] <joe040288> arghx, running glxconfig from terminal says command cant be found
[04:31] <almoxarife> Stingray88: restart the damm thing :)
[04:32]  * PCdoc upgraded to ubuntu 11.10
[04:32] <Stingray88> almoxarife: restarting
[04:32] <mintsoup> firefox is doing weird things with text, for example wherever there is a word with 'fi', for example first, firefox displays the fi as A\, e.g. A\rst. Any ideas what would cause this?
[04:33] <Cygnia> Is there a default calendar application in Oneiric that integrates with the clock/calendar in the top bar?
[04:34] <Iron> dajhorn, if I go directly to the AMD's website and install the drivers from there, will it break my system?
[04:34] <Stingray88> almoxarife: OK it's restarted
[04:34] <ryankrizan> I just installed 11.10 on my Dell Inspiron E1505, and my network connection is very, very slow
[04:35] <ryankrizan> Could someone assist me in troubleshooting this?
[04:35] <almoxarife> Stingray88: go back into synaptic, check for anything in 'residual......'
[04:35] <dajhorn> Iron: Fully uninstall all of the Ubuntu fglrx packages before you try that.
[04:35] <Iron> dajhorn, right! Thanks
[04:35] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: i also noticed something similar :-s
[04:35] <sanduz2> how do i add more workspaces to unity
[04:35] <dajhorn> Iron: And remember to manually clean up the *.run file if you go back to the distro drivers.
[04:36] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, What kind of download rates can you get? I can't get anything over 4kbps
[04:36] <Iron> dajhorn, ha, now you got me ;P
[04:36] <Stingray88> almoxarife: where is residual
[04:36] <joe040288> ryankrizan, could be the ipv6 settings i noticed when i installed that they were set to auto dhpc to i set it to ignore
[04:36] <Iron> dajhorn, if I just deactivate through the Drivers app, will it do?
[04:36] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: i didnt check by downloading files, but browsing is some what slow
[04:36] <dajhorn> Iron: The drivers from AMD come in a dot-run file.   They conflict with the drivers that you can install from the Software Center (or Jockey).  You need to be careful not to mixmatch them.
[04:37] <crackhead> Omg can ANYONE help me get rt73usb to work?!?!
[04:37] <dajhorn> Iron: Deactivating is inadequate.  You need to `apt-get remove --purge` them.
[04:37] <elvis2_> is there a way to tell apache2 to load php 5.2 instead of php 5.3? i know a time back i had this option within my vps, all i had to do was change my php.ini or .htaccess
[04:37] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, I'm going to try setting the ipv6 settings to ignore, see where that gets me
[04:37] <Iron> dajhorn, right, gonna do some research on how to do it properly, thanks
[04:38] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: they shld be set to ignore .. mine is already ignored
[04:38] <dajhorn> Iron: Welcome.
[04:38] <sanduz2> can someone tell me how to add workspaces in oneiric please
[04:38] <Stingray88> almoxarife: do you mean software installed that is related to samba? or is there a way to organize by "residual"
[04:38] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, Set both wireless and wired to ignore. No change.
[04:38] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: how abt restarting modem/router ?
[04:38] <crackhead> I'm at my wit's end.. I've been reading the same bulletin board postings everywhere with NO solution.. Rt73usb.. If anyone can help or point me in the right direction, so appreciated
[04:39] <almoxarife> Stingray88: no, if its there its under installed, last option I think on right
[04:39] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, Not sure that would be the issue. The laptop I'm on now is a Dell 1545, and it's doing fine.
[04:39] <almoxarife> Stingray88: left I mean
[04:40] <PCdoc> ryankrizan: mine made a bit faster when restarted modem
[04:40] <ryankrizan> PCdoc, However, maybe it's having a fit with the 1505, might be worth rebooting.
[04:40] <ryankrizan> It's worth a shot. Back in 2 minutes.
[04:40] <Stingray88> almoxarife: the only thing on the left is categories for packages
[04:40] <PCdoc> oop!! electricity cut off
[04:40] <sanduz2> is there really no way to add workspaces in oneiric :|
[04:40] <PCdoc> cya laterz :(
[04:41] <Stingray88> almoxarife: do you mean the little green box?
[04:41] <almoxarife> little green box?
[04:41] <santiago> where i am?
[04:41] <zykotick9> sanduz2, try ccsm / General / Desktop Size tab (i haven't tried oneiric though)
[04:42] <Stingray88> almoxarife: http://i.imgur.com/bkds1.png little green box
[04:42] <davf> I can't install a gnome  shell theme on 11.10. tried webupd8 info but still won't allow me to choose a shell theme. Shell extensions doesn't show the option for themes
[04:43] <Iron> dajhorn, ok, I did: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:43] <randomusr> Anyone been able use their cam on Facebook?
[04:43] <Iron> dajhorn, now I am going to reboot
[04:43] <almoxarife> Stingray88: do you see 'status' down on the left side?
[04:43] <randomusr> Wine perhaps?
[04:44] <FSWolf> wow XD
[04:44] <FSWolf> big room
[04:44] <FSWolf> ok fast question here... i got a logitech orbital web cam and im tryin to get the tilt pan and zoom working any one else here had any luck with this ???
[04:44] <raeven> Probably a dumb question here... anyone running the new distro yet?
[04:45] <sanduz2> zykotick9, thanks a bunch that worked
[04:45] <optidude> man there is not a whole lotta chatting going on in  a lot of other channels
[04:45] <Stingray88> almoxarife: ah yes, there we go, so you want to know if anything is listed under Not Installed (residual config)?
[04:45] <optidude> this channel people are always chatting
[04:45] <almoxarife> Stingray88: yes
[04:45] <Adyeths> is there a way to make the fonts in the bar across the top of the screen in Oneiric antialiased and not look so ugly? Everywhere else looks great except there.
[04:45] <Stingray88> almoxarife: yes there is from two things
[04:46] <crackhead> rt73usb ... anyone know why it's so fluctuating and slow with internet on 10.04, 10.10.. and virtually all 2.6 kernels???
[04:46] <almoxarife> Stingray88: both samba related?
[04:46] <Stingray88> almoxarife: indeed
[04:46] <almoxarife> Stingray88: get rid of both
[04:46] <randomusr> crackhead, because it's and RT and it's usb?
[04:47] <crackhead> meaning?
[04:47] <randomusr> crackhead, are you using the kernel driver?
[04:47] <almoxarife> Stingray88: stay in the 'status' mode from now on please
[04:47] <crackhead> I believe so, yes
[04:47] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I marked them both for complete removal, but the Apply button is grayed out
[04:47] <crackhead> randomusr: should I install the oneiric kernel?
[04:47] <almoxarife> Stingray88: it would, a bug, would you believe it? :)
[04:48] <FSWolf> i cant seem to find any thing that will let me control the tilt pan and zoom :( can u please pm on this ...
[04:48] <randomusr> crackhead, have you check for a madwifi driver, ndiswrapper, or proprietary driver?
[04:48] <Stingray88> almoxarife: is there another way to remove them
[04:48] <glitch-mod> I followed the sound guide to no avail, right after I finished upgrading it was working but after a reboot I get no sound
[04:48] <almoxarife> Stingray88: we need to install something for shits and giggles, pick something
[04:48] <crackhead> every post seems to advise against using madwifi, ndis
[04:48] <randomusr> crackhead, perhaps the compatwireless package?
[04:48] <crackhead> where/which should I try? I'm game to try ANYTHING at this point
[04:48] <TrueFX> a
[04:48] <Stingray88> almoxarife: hah… so it's that kind of a fix
[04:48] <crackhead> I believe it was installed?
[04:49] <crackhead> How can I check?
[04:49] <crackhead> what's the package name?
[04:49] <almoxarife> Stingray88: until the ubuntu gods fix it, yeah
[04:49] <sianhulo> somebody knows how to boot by my usb in grub?
[04:49] <crackhead> in synaptic it said the compat package was an empty module/package
[04:49] <randomusr> crackhead, then check for a proprietary driver
[04:49] <crackhead> check where?
[04:49] <almoxarife> Stingray88: don't install anything samba related!
[04:50] <randomusr> crackhead, hold please
[04:50] <crackhead> randomusr: what's the cle command to check if the correct compact package is installed?
[04:50] <crackhead> ok sure - holding
[04:50] <Stingray88> almoxarife: haha yes I figured… installing chromium, meant to try it sometime anyways
[04:50] <raeven> crackhead: what are you trying to use? (late to this discussion, but some experience...)
[04:50] <almoxarife> Stingray88: good choice
[04:51] <crackhead> raeven: I'm trying to get this freaking wifi card to work properly! since I switched (had to switch from wep to wpa) the rt73usb card is fluctuating and freaking slowwwwwwww!
[04:51] <randomusr> http://linuxwireless.org/
[04:51] <crackhead> seems tons of people have the same problem
[04:51] <crackhead> I've read numerous pages on that site
[04:51] <almoxarife> Stingray88: the residual config should have gone, with the install done, verify
[04:51] <crackhead> randomusr: what about that site/what page in specific are you referring?
[04:51] <Stingray88> almoxarife: will do in 30 seconds
[04:52] <raeven> Okay. What make and model of wifi card?
[04:52] <randomusr> crackhead, check the compatability page on aircrack-ng
[04:52] <randomusr> That should help
[04:52] <kylesum> what is this about emacs violating the GPL? has anyone heard that anywhere?
[04:52] <crackhead> what's aircrack
[04:52]  * phlak_user is pleased as punch - on chatzilla via 11.10 liveCD :)
[04:52] <rage> How do I access what was originally (in 10.04) Appearance Preferences -> Theme -> Customise -> Colours in 11.10?
[04:53] <zmbmartin> rabbi1: do you know if I could make or get a windows live cd and upgrade my bios from that?
[04:53] <crackhead> raeven: it's builtin on the mobo of my hp pavil desktop
[04:53] <phlak_user> is it me or does it seem faster?
[04:53] <raeven> Aircrack is a WEP/WPA cracking script.
[04:53] <randomusr> crackhead, what's the chipset?
[04:53] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: sorry, no idea
[04:53] <crackhead> randomusr: I'm not sure - where can I find it? iwconfig wlan0?
[04:53] <raeven> Built in... surprising there's not a driver built into the kernel...
[04:53] <randomusr> no
[04:53] <Stingray88> almoxarife: nothing under residual now
[04:54] <almoxarife> Stingray88: cool
[04:54] <Adyeths> is there a way to make the fonts in the bar across the top of the screen in Oneiric antialiased and not look so ugly? Everywhere else looks great except there.
[04:54] <randomusr> crackhead, lspci -vv
[04:54] <almoxarife> Stingray88: install nautilus-share
[04:54] <rabbi1> zmbmartin: i don't think windows gives you that kind of option like ubuntu, check out the new 7 and 8. if you have any with you.
[04:54] <raeven> ...What randomusr said.
[04:54] <randomusr> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers#compatibility
[04:55] <crackhead> realtek rtl8111/8168B, it seems.. kernel module r8169...?
[04:55] <raeven> My last HP used an Atmel chipset...I think.
[04:55] <phlak_user> rage: same place- just type appearance in the dash search bar and click on Appearance
[04:55] <Stingray88> almoxarife: done
[04:55] <raeven> You don't want to use rt73usb anyway... that's for dongles.
[04:56] <crackhead> raeven: I'm happy to follow your suggestions otherwise....
[04:56] <rage> phlak_user: Yes, I've made it that far
[04:56] <almoxarife> Stingray88: logout and back in
[04:56] <phlak_user> rage: colors are in the dropbox (that says wallpaper by default)
[04:56] <celltech> Is there anyway to purge my system of just unneeded and uncessecary junk?
[04:56] <randomusr> crackhead, download the driver here - http://homepages.tu-darmstadt.de/~p_larbig/wlan/
[04:57] <phlak_user> celltech: computer-janitor?
[04:57] <Stingray88> almoxarife: done
[04:57] <rage> phlak_user: I think thats the desktop colour
[04:57] <celltech> Something better than that
[04:57] <almoxarife> Stingray88: choose 'documents' from your home folder to share
[04:57] <celltech> like really drive out the trash programs and stuff
[04:57] <phlak_user> rage: hang on lemme check
[04:58] <Stingray88> almoxarife: wants me to install the service, let it?
[04:58] <almoxarife> Stingray88: yes
[04:58] <crackhead> randomusr: I'll try that one...
[04:59] <raeven> celltech: computer janitor's good, also try gtk-orphan
[04:59] <raeven> FSLint's another good one.
[04:59] <ryankrizan> Is anyone else having a problem with slow network connection with Ubuntu 11.10?
[04:59] <celltech> Cool. Yeah there's alot of things this system comes with that I'll never use in my life
[04:59] <celltech> making my instal WAY to big
[04:59] <almoxarife> raeven: janitor will tell you to delete packages in 'local'
[05:00] <crackhead> raeven: when I modprobe -r my rt73usb .. I get.. "all config files need .conf... ralink.." and ".conf... nvidia-kernel-nkc..." what's that mean??
[05:00] <phlak_user> rage: you're right! need to dig more
[05:00] <sianhulo> people, i have an pendrive that i wanna use to boot by grub
[05:00] <celltech> I installed a 120gb harddrive on this system. installed 11.04, and I have 60gb left? That means there way too much junk it came with
[05:00] <raeven> almoxarife: yes it will, but FSLint does it from the GUI (for those who prefer a happyclickyGUI)
[05:01] <rage> phlak_user: I know they can be changed, I've upgraded and it carried some of my colours through. They now clash horribly
[05:01] <Stingray88> almoxarife: http://i.imgur.com/lB1gC.png
[05:01] <sianhulo> it is /dev/sdf1, so it should be set root=(hd5,1) ?
[05:01] <phlak_user> rage: i need to research more now:)
[05:01] <phlak_user> rage: btw are you on unity or gnome3
[05:01] <mrguitar> join #dotnet
[05:01] <almoxarife> Stingray88: yes,  looks good
[05:02] <almoxarife> Stingray88: create share
[05:02] <Arcas> I need help with my sound. my system sees all my hardware but I still cant get any sound from my pc
[05:02] <rage> phlak_user: Either
[05:02] <Stingray88> almoxarife: i can't
[05:02] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i"
[05:02] <Arcas> I just installed 11.10
[05:02] <complexity> this is taking forever, any ideas?
[05:02] <rage> phlak_user: We'll got with unity in this case
[05:02] <raeven> crackhead: sounds like either some config files are either missing, or missing the .conf extension...
[05:02] <Stingray88> almoxarife: I get that error in the picture
[05:02] <phlak_user> rage: ok
[05:02] <ponit> somebody , I need to knowhow can I to made sound clearly...?
[05:03] <dageriv> When I ssh into a new box, I am asked if I want to trust the host which has provided RSA fingerprint. I also have the certificate for the server. How can I generate a fingerprint from the cert?
[05:03] <idovecer> ponit, what do you mean?
[05:03] <almoxarife> Stingray88: restart the machine
[05:03] <ponit> my sound can not get out
[05:03] <raeven> crackhead: stupid question - have you invoked the Great God Google?
[05:04] <SunTsu> sianhulo: isn't grub-probe the tool to find out reliably?
[05:04] <sianhulo> SunTsu, i don't know it
[05:05] <somsip> Arcas: run alsamixer and check if the channels are muted?
[05:06] <phlak_user> rage: this page asks us to install Gnome Tweak tool -> http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/08/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-10/
[05:06] <phlak_user> rage: lemme try that out
[05:06] <Stingray88> almoxarife: this is what I get after I've restarted http://i.imgur.com/ik4pq.png
[05:07] <raeven> crackhead: check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1363111
[05:07] <Flynsarmy> Rhythmbox on 11.10 has no 'status tray' plugin. I have rhythmbox-plugins installed. any ideas?
[05:07] <Arcas> I found it....I had to switch it to Digital stereo since I'm running audio through optical
[05:07] <Arcas> thanks though
[05:07] <crackhead> raeven: yeah, invoked google a million times..
[05:07] <crackhead> everytime i modprobe -r and reload the rt73 or any module, the keyboard starts flashing and freezing the whole system needs a reboot.. gah
[05:08] <raeven> Woah... haven't run into that one before!
[05:08] <crackhead> raeven: I'm going to try to get these enhanced rt73 compiled and installe.d. and see if that does anything.. though I don't think it will.. a lot of other people mentioned trying them, and not having any success...
[05:09] <raeven> crackhead: well, give it a try. The worst that could happen is thhat it still doesn't work.
[05:09] <rage> phlak_user: Doesn't look good
[05:09] <Adyeths> is there a way to make the fonts in the bar across the top of the screen in Oneiric antialiased and not look so ugly? Everywhere else looks great except there.
[05:09] <Flynsarmy> anyone know hot to use nouveau drivers on 11.10? i've installed nouveau-firmware but dont know how to turn it on
[05:10] <almoxarife> Stingray88: those two last errors I can't explain
[05:10] <raeven> crackhead: that warning you mentioned earlier means that the config files you referenced are simply missing the .conf extension.
[05:10] <raeven> Add that to all of them and try it again.
[05:11] <almoxarife> Stingray88: also you should have samba config in etc after the nautilus-share install
[05:12] <studentz> Hi there I upgrading to Oneric and I forgot my pass of phpmyadmin but i do remember my mysql pass any suggestion. Thanks
[05:13] <Adyeths> anyone know where I might be able to find an answer to my question?
[05:13] <Stingray88> almoxarife: sigh… I just don't get how things can get this messed up in one week
[05:13] <Stingray88> both being on fresh installs too
[05:13] <Stingray88> a week apart
[05:14] <raeven> Adyeths: I'll let you know as soon as my upgrade finishes downloading...
[05:14] <VampsDaBeast> anyone know of a package that converts mp3. wav, and other various formats to ogg?
[05:15] <VampsDaBeast> would need to convert multiple format, and mutliple files
[05:15] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, converting mp3 to ogg is a bad idea
[05:15] <crackhead> raeven: is there a way to turn off the internal wireless adapter? and use a usb dongle adapter I have and can plug in?
[05:16] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, is there a better way?
[05:16] <D_Russ> anyone having issues with 11.10 so far?
[05:16] <raeven> crackhead: if it shows up in ifconfig or iwconfig, then sudo ifconfig wlan0 down (assuming wlan0 is your onboard wifi card)
[05:16] <D_Russ> hardware incompatibility issues?
[05:16] <SunTsu> VampsDaBeast: ffmpeg could do the trick, but as zykotick9 says: trying to convert one lossy compression into another one is no good idea
[05:16] <raeven> D_Russ: like what?
[05:17] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, starting to get a little annoyed with alot of the linux media players locking up and freezing with my mediaplayers
[05:17] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, check out oggconvert if you wish.  SunTsu's ffmpeg suggestion is good as well
[05:17] <D_Russ> like anything, raeven
[05:17] <SunTsu> VampsDaBeast: you end up having worst of both worlds and a serious decrese in quality
[05:17] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i", this just freezes, I need some help
[05:17] <SunTsu> decrease even
[05:17] <D_Russ> trying to decide if i should go ahead and switch from 11.04 or wait a few weeks
[05:18] <VampsDaBeast> again i ask.. other then redownloading ALL 400gb of music.. is there a better way to convert them with out the decrease / loss?
[05:18] <raeven> D_Russ: just curious. Still waiting on my upgrade to download, looking to get a jump on problems that might crop up...
[05:18] <mindblown808> hmm
[05:18] <D_Russ> yep
[05:18] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, not possible.  lossy->lossy will decrease quality
[05:18] <D_Russ> me too
[05:18] <SunTsu> D_Russ: last time I decided to wait a couple of weeks had me end up still using Maverick ;)
[05:19] <FSWolf> hi im using ubuntu and i have a logitech orbital web cam but i  cant control the tilt pan and zoom functions has any one else  experenced this issue and perhaps found a solution can you pm  me please ?
[05:19] <D_Russ> for how long SunTsu?
[05:19] <glitch-mod> Anyone else having sound issues?
[05:19] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, is it possible to go from lossy to non-lossy to lossy without decrease?
[05:20] <VampsDaBeast> and how bad is the decrease?
[05:20] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, no - that's still lossy->lossy
[05:20] <FSWolf> glitch-mod: ya in the past try changing sound drivers
[05:20] <D_Russ> the torrent download is going VERY fast
[05:20] <glitch-mod> FSWolf, How can I do that?
[05:20] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, might not be noticeable - depends how picky you are
[05:21] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, WAV and FLAC -> Ogg is fine
[05:21] <chintan> hiiii
[05:21] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, well i'm not a music studio producer so for it to sound like Dolby isnt the goal
[05:21] <studentz> VampsDaBeast  sound converter
[05:21] <chintan> whats the diffrence between logical & primary partition ?
[05:22] <infinitux> I have no internet on my laptop now that I installed fresh 11.10 and I want to install ndiswrapper so my wifi card will work but it's not installed.
[05:22] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, i do have some wavs in my collection.. so those to ogg will give little decrease?
[05:22] <infinitux> where do I get the i386 deb?
[05:22] <chintan> does anyone know ?
[05:22] <nosbig> So...  I tried to run the upgrade using the official method via update manager.  I was able to click the initial upgrade button above the empty list of 11.04 updates.  I then received the message pointing me to release notes where I clicked upgrade.  I was asked for my password, and then the application exited.  I tried to run update-manager manually, and it tells me that I need to run a partial upgrade.  When I choose a partial upgrade,
[05:22] <nosbig> the tool exits and does nothing.
[05:23] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, well WAV file aren't lossy, so you will not lose anything "extra" - just what's suppose to be lost
[05:23] <nosbig> I looked at my sources.list, and the upgrade tool modified it to refer to oneiric, rather than natty.
[05:23] <nosbig> Any ideas>
[05:23] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, ok
[05:23] <tian> mangons
[05:24] <nosbig> Should I run aptitude dist-upgrade?  Should I update the system piece by piece, group by group?
[05:24] <studentz> chintan a HD can have only 4 primary partitions and a logical partition can have a big number of subpartitions
[05:24] <VampsDaBeast> zykotick9, maybe taking just a few mp3 files and copying them and converting to test would be a wise idea?
[05:24] <crackhead> raeven: what packages are needed to build/compile the enhanced rt73?
[05:24] <zykotick9> VampsDaBeast, for sure - you might be ok with the results (you might not be)?  Test to see.
[05:24] <chintan> here no one listen any question ..
[05:24] <raeven> crackhead: you should just need a compiler/linker, most likely gcc
[05:25] <chintan> ??????????????????
[05:25] <chintan> ??????????????
[05:25] <FloodBot1> chintan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:25] <chintan> ????????????????????
[05:25] <zykotick9> studentz, it's actually an extended partition - that can have multiple logical paritions in it.
[05:25] <chintan> why onone listen my question ?
[05:26] <raeven> crackhead: ...which you most likely already have. If not, find it in synaptic (or apt-get if you prefer the command line)
[05:26] <studentz> zykotick9 you are right. sorry :(
[05:26] <anon_user> chintan, you need to listen.  studentz andwered you
[05:26] <soreau> eir is a bot :P
[05:26] <anon_user> *answered
[05:26] <raeven> crackhead: Unless the source comes with its own Makefile.
[05:26] <chintan> whats the difference ?
[05:26] <crackhead> raeven: make keeps giving error 1.. failed to build?
[05:27] <chintan> when i choose logical & when i choose primary ?
[05:27] <yagoo> chintan, primary is only for windows.. linux doesnt care if its log/primary
[05:27] <studentz> chintan do you want dual boot?
[05:27] <sianhulo> people, how i do i add a line in grub to boot from my usb?
[05:27] <raeven> crackhead: um. give me a second on that one...
[05:27] <crackhead> source comes with its own makefile
[05:27] <studentz> chintan I mean Ubuntu and MS
[05:27] <chintan> yes i want dual boot
[05:28] <soreau> hm
[05:28] <fowl> where is grubs menu.lst
[05:28] <studentz> chintan or Do you want only Ubuntu?
[05:28] <fowl> i have no menu.lst in /boot/grub
[05:28] <yagoo> chintan, dosmbr-style partition tables uses these terms  -- GPT (more modern style) only uses Primary partitions
[05:28] <chintan> i make swap partition as primary
[05:28] <sianhulo> i have it this way http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707747/ (the usb is /dev/sdf1)
[05:28] <chintan> is it right ?
[05:28] <yagoo> chintan, linux doesnt care..
[05:28] <zykotick9> fowl, long gone - that's a grub-legacy only file.
[05:28] <soreau> I downloaded the 11.10 dvd via torrent. Is there an md5sum for the 1.5GB iso somewhere?
[05:28] <sianhulo> fowl, i think that's used with grub, i supose you have grub2
[05:28] <raeven> crackhead: let me get back to you in a few minutes: my upgrade just finished downloading!
[05:28] <yagoo> chintan, swap can be on a primary partition.. that's fine too.
[05:28] <zykotick9> fowl, see /etc/default/grub for most config options - after any changes run "sudo update-grub" to apply
[05:28] <chintan> then why that options are provided in linux installation ...
[05:28] <chintan> any reason ?
[05:29] <Shirakawasuna> I've never upgraded an ubuntu distribution (11.04 -> 11.10 today). Do I need to be worried about anything/check anything after the process completes?
[05:29] <otdel> Hi friends!
[05:29] <debsan> chintan, for you yo come here and ask :)
[05:29] <Shirakawasuna> I'm also excited to see that Unity's application lens now has built-in category filters. Soooooooo much better.
[05:29] <SunTsu> chintan: because linux allows you to do what you please. You have that choice so you are presented it
[05:29] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: Back. Up.
[05:29] <sianhulo> somebody knows what is bad with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707747/ (i wan t to boot my usb by grub, the usb is /dev/sdf1)
[05:29] <yagoo> chintan, it's the old dumb dosmbr-style partition table (if u try to make more than 4 partitions, u start using "logical" partitions after the third primary partition)
[05:30] <sianhulo> but still can't get it working :(
[05:30] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: In case you need to reinstall
[05:30] <chintan> ok
[05:30] <chintan> thanks
[05:30] <fowl> zykotick9: i only wish to back it up, im about to install windows on another partition and want to be ready for the destruction it causes
[05:30] <zykotick9> !grub | fowl
[05:30] <chintan> one another problem in 11.10
[05:30] <otdel> привет с России=)
[05:30] <fowl> ty
[05:31] <chintan> when i maximize any screen
[05:31] <Shirakawasuna> soreau: I alwasy backup. Is it common to need to reinstall?
[05:31] <chintan> docs still display left side
[05:31] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: Upgrades are sometimes problematic
[05:31] <chintan> any option for autohide ?
[05:31] <glitch-mod> what does sudo -s do
[05:32] <otdel> аля улю
[05:32] <Shirakawasuna> soreau: Is there anything I can do to prevent that? Any commands to check things after the process completes?
[05:32] <sianhulo> somebody knows about grub2?
[05:32] <yagoo> glitch-mod, -s is for sweetness
[05:32] <SunTsu> VampsDaBeast: btw. in case you are new to sound encoding: lossy means that information (that you probably won't hear anyway) is lost while encoding.
[05:32] <yagoo> sianhulo, grub2 is grub2..
[05:32] <yagoo> !ask
[05:33] <glitch-mod> yagoo, ಠ_ಠ
[05:33] <soreau> Shirakawasuna: If you haven't messed with your natty install too much it should work ok
[05:33] <sianhulo> yagoo, something that may be a little more useful xd
[05:33] <iron> I don't mean to be rude, but who was helping me with the ATI drivers issue? :P
[05:33] <SunTsu> VampsDaBeast: problem is: every lossy encoding has a different approach and notion of that, so when reencoding a file that already lost information it will lose even more, which gives you more and more loss and a decrease in quality
[05:33] <new2net> Do I have to piss blood to get ---ANY---- ubuntu version to install?   Installer crashed, bug reporter crashed, then even tho I'm on a live CD i get this message "hey want to upgrade so I can crash again and ruin your whole week"? Its like no, I'll just find a better OS
[05:33] <SunTsu> new2net: or maybe better hardware
[05:33] <yagoo> new2net, thats disgusting
[05:33] <sianhulo> because i'm trying to add a line to boot from my usb, but cannot get it working
[05:34] <chintan> how to hide doc when i maximize any panel ?
[05:34] <chintan> QUESTION = "how to hide doc when i maximize any panel ?"
[05:34] <sianhulo>  somebody knows what is bad with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707747/ (i wan t to boot my usb by grub, the usb is /dev/sdf1)
[05:34] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i";
[05:35] <complexity> dude, why is that freezing
[05:35] <yagoo> chintan, what's your mother language? you're not sounding clear
[05:35] <chintan> how to hide doc when i maximize any panel ?
[05:35] <chintan> hindi
[05:35] <SunTsu> new2net: I'd check back with memtest86 and an urologist
[05:35] <zykotick9> sianhulo, (untested) but you could try to just plug your bootable USB in and run "sudo update-grub" and see if it's auto-added?
[05:35] <yagoo> chintan, you really should um.. use the right words.. it is not possible to understand what you're asking
[05:36] <sianhulo> zykotick9, it's been added, and i can't see it in grub menu, the problem is that i can't boot it(the problem is not my usb because i used it to install ubuntu in another computer)
[05:36] <sianhulo> so the problem is my sintaxis, but i don't know where the error is
[05:36] <edogaa> HEy, how do I get hdmi audio working with the OSS drivers on radeon?
[05:37] <abhinav_singh> how do i switch back to unity from ubuntu classic in 11.04
[05:37] <edogaa> it seems hdmi audio for the r600-700 series works...
[05:37] <edogaa> from what i saw on the status matrix...but i can't figure out how
[05:37] <zykotick9> !classic | abhinav_singh reverse these directions
[05:37] <D_Russ> abhinav_singh, log out and look at the bottom
[05:38] <Reallycool> It would appear I broke my system's appearance settings, is there a way to reset them to defaults?
[05:38] <mongo> i'm actually liking xubuntu
[05:38] <yagoo> Reallycool, probably one of the default themes..
[05:38] <Mike9863> Are all my packages taking a long time to download because of the new release being downloaded by others?
[05:39] <coppro> Hi there. Oneiric removed the gnome power and volume tray applets. What equivalent does it have? I am not using Unity.
[05:39] <yagoo> Mike9863, maybe its a slow mirror.
[05:39] <Mike9863> yagoo: Well I'm getting speeds of about 10KB/s. Anything I can do?
[05:39] <SinnerNyx> i'm having an issue where I'm running a grep, and I want it to run in the background, so I press CTRL+Z. and it shows the grep job as "STOPPED". When I type bg though it still shows the job as STOPPED. I've also tried "bg 1" however this still shows the same job as stopped....
[05:39] <SinnerNyx> am I missing something?
[05:40] <yagoo> Mike9863, 10 kilobytes? that's even slower than a 28.8 modem for crying out loud
[05:40] <yagoo> Mike9863, it'll take a million years to download a meg at that rate..
[05:41] <Reallycool> yagoo: changing UI themes does nothing at all
[05:41] <phlak_user> rage: its in the universe repos
[05:41] <yagoo> SinnerNyx, try bg %1
[05:41] <Mike9863> yagoo: Yeah I don't know what's going on. I'm just using the Update Manager as I always do.
[05:41] <SinnerNyx> yagoo, same
[05:42] <yagoo> Reallycool,  u can probably copy a non-modified theme from /usr/share (not sure exactly).. and copy it back into your themes folder..
[05:42] <yagoo> SinnerNyx, u tried fg %1 ?
[05:42] <SinnerNyx> nope lemme give that a shot
[05:42] <yagoo> then change ttys
[05:43] <yagoo> and see if that process is still running
[05:44] <yagoo> Mike9863, i never use the gui tools for package management.. maybe there's a mirror select somewhere..
[05:44] <yagoo> lol
[05:44] <yagoo> anyone knows?
[05:45] <yagoo> (do tell Mike9863)
[05:45] <seven_> hey i need help, i just installed ubuntu 11.10, my keyboard lights wont turn on
[05:45] <yagoo> seven_, lol.. comeon that's not an emergency :p
[05:45] <yagoo> seven_, at least the keys work right? LOL
[05:45] <seven_> well im in the dark
[05:45] <edogaa> wow...why is kde so slow lol
[05:46] <seven_> i cant see my keyboard
[05:46] <yagoo> seven_, is the keyboard plugged in? :)
[05:46] <seven_> im on a laptop
[05:46] <SinnerNyx> yagoo fg %1 appears to work fine...
[05:46] <yagoo> SinnerNyx, good
[05:46] <seven_> asus g73s
[05:46] <seven_> it worked with 11.04
[05:46] <fadezero> hey guy how do i know if my firewall is on, im new to ubuntu
[05:46] <SinnerNyx> yagoo, but i need to run in the background...
[05:46] <yagoo> SinnerNyx, btw, if u'r using ssh.. u may want to look at screen (if ssh breaks a connection-- u can relog back in and use screen -RR)
[05:47] <zykotick9> !u | yagoo
[05:47] <yagoo> (screen is a multiplexer for text console-- allows to resume broken terminal connection)
[05:47] <SinnerNyx> yagoo, not ssh, regular command line in virtualbox guest
[05:47] <sianhulo> yeah, I know I'm becoming annoying, but... somebody knows what is bad with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707747/ (i wan t to boot my usb by grub, the usb is /dev/sdf1)
[05:47] <seven_> any experts in here :/
[05:47] <seven_> i dont wanna go back to windows
[05:48] <fadezero> can anyone help me with setting up my firewall in ubuntu
[05:48] <zykotick9> sianhulo, it's probably not sdf1 if you boot it - can you use UUID or labels instead? (i'm not sure, just making suggestion)
[05:48] <yagoo> sianhulo, looks like u have 6 harddrives
[05:48] <sianhulo> seven_, i don't know, that seems pretty strange to me
[05:48] <mint> hi guys, I just installed 11.10 over my mint 11 partition and when I try to boot I get sent to the grub rescue thing with "invalid arch independent elf magic"
[05:48] <mint> anyone know what that is about?
[05:48] <seven_> yeah me too sianhulo
[05:48] <mint> tried reinstalling grub from the live cd but it did not help
[05:48] <seven_> the hotkeys work
[05:48] <seven_> but the keyboard wont light up
[05:49] <sianhulo> zykotick9, i don't know how to use UUID
[05:49] <yagoo> seven_, what laptop is it?
[05:49] <yagoo> !uuid
[05:49] <zykotick9> sianhulo, well good luck, hopefully someone has a real answer for you.
[05:50] <yagoo> zykotick9, hfsplus implies OSX
[05:50] <fowl> seven_: hows the g73s? im on the precursor g73jw
[05:50] <gofazi> if i remove pulse audio should alsa auto work after a reboot or is there some setup to do?
[05:50] <sianhulo> no, i have been googling for a while, and i think there's no way you can use UUID
[05:50] <symaxian> Hm, in 11.10 the mouse is offset by a few hundred pixels when in expo on my system, dual monitors under AMD
[05:51] <yagoo> sianhulo, UUID is used in /etc/fstab and kernel bootlines
[05:51] <mariano> From time to time, I get these little orange circles with arrows around my windows and they make the window that I'm on shake or snap to a specific place. What are these things? I don't even know how I am activating this function.
[05:51] <seven_> i have
[05:51] <sianhulo> yagoo, but i mean to use grub2
[05:51] <seven_> ASUS G73
[05:51] <yagoo> sianhulo, grub.cfg <<< UUID for your kernel bootlines
[05:51] <zeelot-livecd> no one knows what my issue could be? sites seem to tell me to reinstall grub but it doesn't solve it for me
[05:51] <seven_> yagoo ASUS G73SW
[05:52] <sianhulo> yagoo, but i'm trying to boot from an usb, ky kernel configuration is all right
[05:52] <Datz> Hi, will there be a way to fall back to gnome 2 for future releases?
[05:52] <urlin2u> Datz, no
[05:52] <seven_> fowl its nice but trying to get my keyboard backlights to work
[05:52] <yagoo> sianhulo, to boot from usb. ur bios needs to support booting from usb
[05:52] <Datz> this saddens me
[05:52] <gofazi> if i remove pulse audio should alsa auto work after a reboot or is there some setup to do?
[05:53] <sianhulo> yagoo,  but it "doesn't" so i'm trying from grub, I AM sure that is is possible
[05:53] <urlin2u> Datz, gnome 2 is not supported by its own designers anymotre
[05:53] <Question> Hello. I got a question. Every time when i start my Laptop i have to choose what i want to start in bios. for example : 1. Ubuntu Normal 2. Ubuntu restoration etc etc... How can i set, that ubuntu normal always start?
[05:53] <yagoo> seven_, there's a link for the keyboard on this site http://www.linlap.com/wiki/asus+g73sw
[05:53] <seven_> everything is working except my key my keyboard back light
[05:53] <keyboardtalk> Why is there no authentication when booting into recovery mode? I am given root shell access with no password prompt
[05:54] <faryshta> Hello problems with broadcom here.
[05:54] <faryshta> Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
[05:54] <mariano> Is anyone else having a difficult time adjusting their laptop's display brightness?
[05:54] <seven_> there is no fix there yagoo
[05:54] <yagoo> seven_, checkout "Put this in your rc.local" from http://scottsautorepair.net/microsoft.sucks/G73SW.keyboard.lights.html
[05:54] <Datz> urlin2u: I don't know what the community is going to do without gnome2.. I can't stand unity or gnome shell.
[05:54] <yagoo> seven_, i said a link.. i just posted above..
[05:54] <faryshta> Does someone here know how to make a broadcom wifi work?
[05:54] <yagoo> seven_, geez..
[05:54] <urlin2u> !broadcom | faryshta
[05:54] <seven_> yes yagoo thats a fix for 11.04
[05:54] <seven_> it doesnt work for 11.10
[05:54] <glebihan> Datz, you can use gnome-fallback-session + gnome-panel
[05:54] <seven_> when i try it, ubuntu wont reboot
[05:55] <fade_> hey guys does the firewall automatically activates in ubuntu?
[05:55] <yagoo> seven_, if none of ur current kernels can support the backlit.. then probably u have to do your own compiling :/
[05:55] <Datz> glebihan: thanks. It's either that or have to go with debian for awhile. :-/
[05:56] <seven_> well
[05:56] <zykotick9> fade_, nope
[05:56] <seven_> there is one that works for 11.04
[05:56] <sianhulo> seven_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1752900
[05:56] <seven_> its just on the new one
[05:56] <urlin2u> Datz, personally  just adapted although I have multiple OS on my computer one has gnome 2.
[05:56] <urlin2u> I*
[05:56] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, that's better.. non password on recovery boot.. i dont see anything wrong with that
[05:56] <Question> Hey Gusys. When i start my Laptop. I got to choose everytime what i want to start. Like Ubuntu restoration , or Ubuntu Normal.. How can i set it off ?
[05:56] <gofazi> if i remove pulse audio should alsa auto work after a reboot or is there some setup to do?
[05:56] <phlak_user> rage: i installed gnome-tweak-tool but there still seems no option for colors though there is a host of other stuff
[05:57] <keyboardtalk> yagoo: isn't this a security hole? anyone can boot the computer into recovery and gain full access to the system
[05:57] <phlak_user> Question: set default time to 0
[05:57] <yagoo> Question, u set a default #, in the grub.cfg file ...
[05:57] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, dunno.. disable it then..
[05:57] <seven_> sianhulo thats for 11.04
[05:57] <Datz> urlin2u: yea, I can try to adapt as well. but gnome shell is more difficult to use... it's a step back
[05:57] <seven_> i have 11.10
[05:57] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, u can also set passwords to grub ..
[05:57] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, or simply set a password to the bios..
[05:57] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, to do anything you will have to use a password a cli does not= full control
[05:58] <yagoo> keyboardtalk, so a password is needed after the bios-boot test
[05:58] <mariano> From time to time, I get these little orange circles with arrows around my windows and they make the window that I'm on shake or snap to a specific place. What are these things? I don't even know how I am activating this function. Help.
[05:58] <Question> yagoo: where can i find this file ?
[05:58] <Datz> maybe KDE is the way to go
[05:58] <sianhulo> seven_ wont hurt to try
[05:58] <keyboardtalk> yagoo: I have a bios password, but other users may not
[05:58] <phlak_user> Question:  change this line in /etc/default/grub  GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 (to 0) and run update-grub2
[05:58] <yagoo> Question, /boot/grub/grub.cfg -- there should be a line near the beginning -- it may be "set default .." or "default" (default numbering starts from 0)
[05:58] <sianhulo> the problem is that i know if you can use an old kernel version...
[05:58] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: I was able to change the passwords for all users
[05:59] <urlin2u> mariano, get a screen shot if you can it sounds like a compiz setup.
[05:59] <zykotick9> Question, yagoo's suggestion is actually a poor one.  grub.cfg says "do not edit" for good reason, it's reset every time you update kernel/grub - use phlak_user's suggestion instead
[05:59] <symaxian> Wow, right after bootup there is a handful of regressions with expo and dual monitors on 11.10
[05:59] <mariano> ok i'll try it
[05:59] <yagoo> zykotick9, it's a simple fix..
[05:59] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, with a password change prompt right.
[05:59] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: yes
[05:59] <yagoo> zykotick9, i don't believe theres any permanent solution for setting a default for grub2.
[05:59] <gofazi> if i remove pulse audio should alsa auto work after a reboot or is there some setup to do?
[05:59] <yagoo> zykotick9, unless u have a better one.
[05:59] <yagoo> lol
[05:59] <zykotick9> yagoo, /etc/default/grub
[06:00] <yagoo> yah.
[06:00] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, same will work in a logged in regular session, your need to do some study bro.
[06:00] <yagoo> but update the kernels..
[06:00] <yagoo> boom.
[06:00] <faryshta> urlin2u: do you know where to get the drivers after I installed the bcwml-kernel-source package?
[06:00] <phlak_user> yagoo: nope
[06:00] <yagoo> numbering can change..
[06:00] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: You mean I can change any other user's password?
[06:01] <urlin2u> faryshta, not really i think the link says it all right, as far a s cards I have never had to do this, most seem served by the link.
[06:01] <faryshta> Where can I get the drivers for a broadcom?
[06:01] <faryshta> urlin2u: the links says that 'Aditional drivers' should work now but it doesn't.
[06:01] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, from a super user state yes.
[06:02] <urlin2u> faryshta, I can't really help beyond the link it is beyond my pay rate. :D
[06:02] <faryshta> Where can I get the drivers for a broadcom?
[06:02] <joshua__> Hey guys, I'm unable to get Ubuntu to boot with Unity.  Can anyone help?
[06:02] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: But the point is that you shouldn't be able to reach super user state without a password or some other authentication. Recovery mode just gives it to you
[06:02] <phlak_user> joshua__: what version, what error?
[06:02] <Lewoco__> How does Ubuntu's release numbering work? I just discovered 10.04 is newer than 10.10 ?
[06:03] <n1ko> no it isnt
[06:03] <n1ko> year.month
[06:03] <faryshta> Does someone owns a broadcom wifi here?
[06:03] <phlak_user> Lewoco__: it isnt; its LTS which means it has Long Term Support and hence is supported longer than the others
[06:03] <glitch-mod> My sound it still fubar, listed under sound --> hardware = blank
[06:03] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, you changed the password to get there it is part of the deal, if you want to lock out anybody else including yourself if you loose the password, you need a password protected bios
[06:03] <joshua__> Ubuntu 11.04.  There isn't really an error, so far.  From the moment I installed it, I've loaded into the very basic (gnome, I guess?) ui, instead of Unity.
[06:04] <phlak_user> joshua__: if you selected gnome (it would be unity), if you selected gnome-classic (its without)
[06:04] <faryshta> how can I make a broadcom wifi work?
[06:04] <phlak_user> joshua__: you can select the environment as soon as you enter your username
[06:04] <keyboardtalk> urlin2u: What if my harddrive is placed into a different system?
[06:04] <s1> faryshta: hey , check it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:05] <glitch-mod> Hardware is detected, just successfully installed ati drivers from official binary but still no sound halp!
[06:05] <cousin_luigi> hello
[06:05] <joshua__> I'll show you a screencap of my desktop.  (left is Ubuntu, right is a vm)  It's too simple to be Unity, I think? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/screenshotbcar.png/
[06:05] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, you have to invetigate your own safety this is ubuntu support not what if I get hit in the head with a comet and the aliens steal my HD LOL.
[06:05] <cousin_luigi> gnome-shell keeps falling back into gnome-classic
[06:05] <cousin_luigi> any idea why?
[06:05] <mariano> urlin2u: where should I upload the picture to?
[06:06] <faryshta> s1 I did. It says that I should have the drivers with the 'aditional drivers' tool but I can't see them.
[06:06] <faryshta> how can I make a broadcom wifi work in 11.10?
[06:06] <abhijeet> hey guys. . I installed the ubuntu 11.10 and next time when I boot my unity got crashed and now I am only getting a white bar at the top... :(   How can i restore the unity?
[06:06] <urlin2u> mariano, http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[06:07] <yagoo> faryshta, did u check the broadcom site?
[06:07] <joshua__> Is that what my desktop is supposed to look like?  I haven't told it to boot in classic mode, or anything.
[06:07] <glitch-mod> under my sound output menu it says
[06:07] <glitch-mod> 'dummy output'
[06:07] <yagoo> glitch-mod, lol
[06:07] <faryshta> yagoo: which one? I checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and didn't work.
[06:07]  * glitch-mod accidentally hit enter
[06:07] <phlak_user> joshua__: you're right; it looks like classic; can you check what de is selected for session when you enter your username at login (its at the bottom generally)
[06:07] <vlad> i tested ubuntu 11.10 last 12 hours. new ubuntu is great...fail
[06:07] <urlin2u> keyboardtalk, I'm just joking with you, but a context with perspective is needed for this channel. There are other places to get super security answers
[06:07] <yagoo> glitch-mod, if that was anything but dummy output that was the one :)
[06:08] <s1> faryshta: then check if the driver is loadded.
[06:08] <glitch-mod> yagoo, There is nothing else to pick
[06:08] <joshua__> Hold on.  I may have to leave/restart to find out.  I'll pay attention this time, but I don't think it said...  Hold on.
[06:08] <Question> phlak_user: When i want to save it, they tell me i dont got the rights. ?!
[06:08] <mariano> urlin2u: The circles appear randomly when I'm using the touchpad. I don't know if I'm activating them by accident or what. Here is the link: http://imagebin.org/178922
[06:08] <yagoo> glitch-mod, see if soundcore is load (lsmod |grep -i sound)
[06:08] <xjjk> hello, I just installed the AMD64 version of oneiric; is there a way to turn off the multiarch stuff?
[06:08] <cousin_luigi> nevermind, managed with gnome-shell
[06:08] <faryshta> s1 how?
[06:08] <xjjk> it lists double packages in aptitude
[06:08] <phlak_user> Question:  did you use sudo before the edit command?
[06:08] <xjjk> I've no nead for any 32-bit packages
[06:08] <yagoo> faryshta, so what bcmXXX number is your chipset?
[06:09] <cousin_luigi> Is it possible to change the lightdm theme?
[06:09] <faryshta> yagoo: BCM5787M
[06:09] <Question> im right in the folder
[06:09] <yagoo> faryshta, that page is not for bcm5xxxx
[06:09] <phlak_user> mariano: those look like resize handles
[06:09] <yagoo> faryshta, use a bit of logic man
[06:09] <glitch-mod> yagoo, it returned a value so I guess its loaded
[06:09] <[deXter]> Hi all; unable to launch Unity 2D on my system. I select it from the login screen but it still starts the regular unity..
[06:09] <Question> Ah okay
[06:09] <Question> I try it again :D
[06:09] <urlin2u> mariano, hmm I have not seen those circles, have you messed with compiz?
[06:09] <zykotick9> xjjk, i highly doubt it - multiarch is in debian's wheezy/sid - and thus ubuntu
[06:09] <phlak_user> Question: ok
[06:10] <faryshta> yagoo: you are NOT helping.
[06:10] <xjjk> zykotick9: I don't see double-package listings in debian wheezy/sid
[06:10] <xjjk> I'm not sure what Ubuntu is doing
[06:10] <mariano> Nope, I just installed ubuntu 11.10. The only thing that I've done is to enable two finger scrolling.
[06:10] <glitch-mod> yagoo, its telling me I'm using snd-hda-intel
[06:10] <yagoo> glitch-mod, thats good news..
[06:10] <zykotick9> xjjk, lol - welcome to ubuntu ;)
[06:10] <mariano> urlin2u: I haven't touched anything else.
[06:11] <xjjk> zykotick9: heh, yeah…
[06:11] <yagoo> faryshta, look for bleeding code..
[06:11] <joshua__> Okay.  I'm back.  I'm trying to open the "Ubuntu" session.  Not ubuntu classic.
[06:11] <faryshta> does someone know how to make a broadcom wifi work on 11.10?
[06:11] <yagoo> faryshta, u may have to dig.. but u have to do the right digging.. BCM43xx is not for you
[06:11] <yagoo> (BCM43xx docs is not the right source)
[06:12] <faryshta> does someone know how to make a broadcom wifi work on 11.10?
[06:12] <yagoo> faryshta, chipsets are definite. Either it is a match or it isnt. If there's no match, then it WONT work
[06:12] <yagoo> ^^^^.
[06:12] <phlak_user> joshua__: if you get the launcher panel on the left; it might be an indication that its unity
[06:12] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: trying on mine now
[06:12] <srt42211> so i fuked my phone up
[06:12] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: good I hope yours get to work.
[06:12] <glitch-mod> yagoo, Think this could help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/873132
[06:13] <phlak_user> srt42211: with ubuntu?
[06:13] <Question> alright, doesnt work. Im directly in the folder etc / default / and open the file GRUB. right ?
[06:13] <srt42211> huh
[06:13] <joshua__> No, I don't.  I'm still looking at the same "classic" looking desktop.  I'm pretty sure I'm not in unity.  I have no advanced graphic options, and earlier when I ran the command in the terminal, I was returned "gnome" instead of "Ubuntu"
[06:13] <Operaist2> how do i check ubuntu's available disk size if i installed with wubi?
[06:13] <AsadR> is logwtmp for pptpd broken on Lucid?
[06:13] <yagoo> glitch-mod, absolutely try that.. often laptops with linux -- have this issue with the sound chipsets
[06:13] <urlin2u> mariano, not sure really all I could do is try searxches on google with various word prompts not sure where to start, seems like a compiz thing, as unity is a compiz plugin, but that is just a a theory.
[06:14] <urlin2u> searches*
[06:14] <zykotick9> Operaist2, "df -h" from a terminal should work
[06:14] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: installing firmware-b43-installer did the trick for me
[06:14] <glitch-mod> Thanks yagoo
[06:14] <joshua__> I have checked the Additional Drivers, and the driver for my graphics card says "This Driver is activated, but not currently in use."
[06:14] <mariano> urlin2u: Also, do you know if not being able to adjust my screen display might be a bug in ubuntu?
[06:14] <s1> faryshta: with modprobe , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Drivers
[06:14] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: when you run 'lspci | grep BCM 'on consolE what do you get?
[06:15] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: bcm4318
[06:15] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: thanks.
[06:15] <Question> sind hier auch deutsche helfer? ^^
[06:15] <phlak_user> Question: you have to open it with superuser privileges; if you insist on using the GUI; press alt+f2 and type gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[06:15] <mariano> urlin2u: I've seen a few people have this issue, but not sure if it is a bug. I'm fairly new to linux.
[06:15] <urlin2u> mariano, can you be more specific on what you mean by adjust screen display, do you mean resolution? Did you look in ,monitors?
[06:15] <Flannel> !de | Question
[06:15] <Operaist2> zykotick9: is it possible to increase the size allocated after i installed with wubi?
[06:16] <zykotick9> Operaist2, i wouldn't touch wubi (or a wubi question) with a 30 foot pole.  Good luck.
[06:16] <urlin2u> Operaist2, no is the answer.
[06:16] <mariano> Not resolution. I mean the actual brightness that one is usually able to change on a laptop display via the Fn + shortcut.
[06:16] <yagoo> Question, screw that.. it takes more steps.. just edit the grub.cfg file and add that little number.. yah the default# may change after a new kernel update.. so what.. u can change it back again later..
[06:16] <Question> okay
[06:16] <Question> p
[06:17] <zykotick9> yagoo, seriously - stop giving bad advice
[06:17] <Question> phlak_user: Done
[06:17] <Question> Restart and try ?
[06:17] <urlin2u> mariano, that seems to be a issue for some,I never care I just run it full brightness.
[06:17] <yagoo> zykotick9, at least explain to him how to do it.
[06:17] <phlak_user> Question: sure
[06:17] <yagoo> zykotick9, you're not being helpful.
[06:17] <AsadR> Why would logwtmp for pptpd not be working (not logging anything to wtmp) on 10.04 Lucid
[06:17] <phlak_user> yagoo: he would still need sudo wouldnt he? and you didnt tell him that
[06:17] <TehDGM> goodmorning this morning
[06:17] <edogaa> So, anyone here got hdmi audio working with their radeon card with OSS drivers
[06:17] <Question> i still got to type update-grub2 ?
[06:17] <yagoo> phlak_user, he's smarter than u think he is.
[06:18] <phlak_user> Question: yes, sudo update-grub2
[06:18] <mariano> urlin2u: thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me. :)
[06:18] <phlak_user> yagoo: support isnt about assumptions
[06:18] <urlin2u> mariano, no problem it can be a tough when you investigate a new OS, good luck. :D
[06:19] <zykotick9> phlak_user, if they edit the grub.cfg and run update-grub it is going to remove the changes they made...
[06:19] <Engonyr> How do I install GNOME 3.0 into Ubuntu? Will it break my Unity desktop? Will it install lots of extra applications?
[06:19] <yagoo> phlak_user, help him. he's asking about YOUR and zykotick9 method.
[06:19] <urlin2u> Engonyr, you on 11.10
[06:19] <phlak_user> zykotick9: i know that; i havent asked him to edit grub.cfg; he's editing /etc/default/grub
[06:19] <Engonyr> urlin2u: yes
[06:19] <Engonyr> i mean 3.2, sorry
[06:19] <yagoo> so go on and explain to him.. you didn't explain to him the WHOLE procedure.
[06:19] <urlin2u> Engonyr, it is set to run ubnity and gnome 3
[06:19] <phlak_user> yagoo: i did
[06:19] <glitch-mod> yagoo, added this 'options snd-hda-intel model=auto' to '/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf' but no dice, anything else I can try?
[06:20] <urlin2u> unity*
[06:20] <TehDGM> yea dont edit grub.cfg directly
[06:20] <zykotick9> phlak_user, sorry - thought they might have gotten sidetracked by yagoo's suggestion.
[06:20] <phlak_user> zykotick9: which is quite possible :)
[06:20] <Engonyr> urlin2u: so is GNOME 3 already installed? I've noticed components of it all over Unity, but is the actual desktop installed?
[06:20] <yagoo> glitch-mod, modinfo <*-intel> may list the other type of laptop models u can try..
[06:20] <yagoo> glitch-mod, the name of that hdasndintel module
[06:20] <phlak_user> Question: did you edit /etc/default/grub ?
[06:20] <Question> phlak_user: Alright, it works. Thanks !!
[06:20] <urlin2u> Engonyr, I think you have to install it fully my setup is from a install months ago
[06:20] <phlak_user> Question: phew!
[06:20] <Question> :D
[06:21] <Question> bye
[06:21] <yagoo> phlak_user, and it may change..
[06:21] <yagoo> lol
[06:21] <yagoo> Question, bye
[06:21] <glitch-mod> yagoo, snd-hda-intel
[06:21] <phlak_user> yagoo: chill dude
[06:21] <glitch-mod> yagoo, thats not what you were asking for right...
[06:22] <faryshta_> Does someone have a BCM5787M chipset?
[06:22] <yagoo> glitch-mod, as a regular user, u can try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0
[06:22] <Engonyr> urlin2u: Is "GNOME Shell" in the Ubuntu Software Center the right package?
[06:22] <yagoo> faryshta, u'r confusing me and others.. someone asked u what u get with dmesg|grep -i bcm and u said something with bcm4xxx... u're repeating this BCM5xxx number from where?
[06:22] <pangolin> !notunity | Engonyr
[06:22] <faryshta_> yagoo:  I never did.
[06:22]  * phlak_user is going to reboot into 11.04; enough playing with 11.10
[06:23] <roberto> Hello i will upgrade kubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 bat i have no upgrade option in my upgrademanger
[06:23] <urlin2u> Engonyr, should be, that is what I used originally, dfrom a command line I never use the software center
[06:23] <glitch-mod> yagoo, alsa-utils doesn't exist! could this be the answer to my problem :D
[06:23] <roberto> and apt-get dist-upgrade is not comming
[06:23] <Engonyr> pangolin: thanks
[06:23] <faryshta_> Does someone know how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:23] <Engonyr> urlin2u: Yeah, I know, I used to use apt-get and Synpatic too.. but I prefer the Ubuntu Software Center now.
[06:23] <urlin2u> roberto, you can't do that upgrade
[06:23] <glitch-mod> nvmd
[06:23] <edogaa> sigh gotta go see ya
[06:24] <joshua__> Can anyone help me try to get Unity working in my Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:24] <zykotick9> roberto, FYI by default LTS will only upgrade to another LTS - it can be changed, but i wouldn't know how
[06:24] <roberto> becorse? @urlin2u
[06:24] <Engonyr> urlin2u: anyway, thanks for the help. I'm off to log into GNOME 3. :)
[06:24] <urlin2u> Engonyr, cool
[06:24] <roberto> me PC is upgrade but my notbook not?
[06:24] <urlin2u> roberto, you can only go from long term to longterm, 11.10 is not a longterm.
[06:24] <pangolin> !upgrade | roberto
[06:25] <faryshta_> Does someone know how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:25] <glitch-mod> yagoo, only thing under /etc/init.d/alsa-  is 'store' and 'restore'
[06:25] <yagoo> faryshta_, lsmod|grep -i tg3
[06:25] <yagoo> glitch-mod, maybe it's one of those.. they may have changed the name (perhaps a wiki can give a hint on this)
[06:26] <tanath> i upgraded to 11.10 with gnome-session-fallback and decided to compare gnome-shell and unity so installed them. they don't show up at login screen though. O_o
[06:26] <faryshta_> Does someone know how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:26] <tanath> also, login screen is now ugly
[06:26] <Question> Alright. i got a another question :D I want to see all my systemdata clear. is there any possibility? programm ?
[06:27] <tanath> bright blue. wallpaper is gone
[06:27] <c_smith> Hey, being as libmp4v2  is deleted from Oneiric, what is an equivelant of it that is still in the repos?
[06:27] <urlin2u> tanath, what did you upgrade from Natty?
[06:27] <tanath> urlin2u, yep
[06:27] <yagoo> faryshta_, 2008 forums show people have been trying this.. it's at least 3 years that chipset was released.. it should be workable.. I even gave u a hint on the module name.
[06:27] <urlin2u> tanath, are you sure you got a clean upgrade, and what is the grapghic card?
[06:28] <faryshta_> Does someone know how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:28] <urlin2u> graphic*
[06:28] <faryshta_> yagoo: you are NOT helping.
[06:28] <yagoo> ^ that's spamming.
[06:28] <tanath> urlin2u, nope. i had to upgrade through aptitude actually
[06:28] <tanath> urlin2u, nvidia
[06:28] <joshua__> Hey, does anyone know of another channel that might be less busy where I could get some help with getting Unity working?
[06:28] <urlin2u> tanath, you need to reload the card graphics at the least.
[06:28] <urlin2u> driver*
[06:28] <yagoo> joshua__, #linux ?
[06:29] <urlin2u> tanath, the drivers don't follow a upgrade.
[06:29] <Question> yagoo: is there any program where i can see all my systemdata clearly ?
[06:29] <yagoo> joshua__, the busier the better..
[06:29] <tanath> urlin2u, i did run jockey and tried to switch to an apparently more updated driver. said it failed and to check log. log said it succeeded
[06:29] <yagoo> Question, ?
[06:29] <illmortal> so uh.. anyone know if there's a fix for Deluge after the 11.10 upgrade?
[06:29] <faryshta_> Anyone has a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:29] <yagoo> Question, u have to know what you're trying to fix.
[06:29] <tanath> urlin2u, far as i could tell at a glance anyway
[06:29]  * yagoo thinks faryshta_ has asked the same question at least 20 times in 4 minutes..
[06:30] <Question> I just want to see my systemdatas
[06:30] <joshua__> yagoo, except for the people who can't get help.  Lol
[06:30] <urlin2u> tanath, this is out of my general knowledge area, other then knowing about the reloads after a upgrade
[06:30] <faryshta_> yagoo can you stop talking to me?
[06:30] <tanath> urlin2u, anyway, why would unity & gnome-shell not add themselves to login screen?
[06:30] <roberto> thx danke :-)
[06:30] <Question> like everesthome for windows
[06:30] <illmortal> just do an sudo apt-get install gnome  and it'll be on the log in screen lis
[06:30] <illmortal> list*
[06:31] <illmortal> unity sucks... maybe good for touchpads and netbooks.. but definitely not for people on desktops.
[06:31] <ecolitan> hello, is it possible to make the do-release-upgrade script just calculate the packages and download them, then stop?
[06:31] <Engonyr> Well.. tried GNOME shell, did not like. To my surprise, I actually prefer Unity in 11.10.
[06:31] <pangolin> faryshta_: take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/156833 comment #9 and #10 may be helpful to you.
[06:31] <tanath> illmortal, i don't want evolution and all the rest. already installed gnome-shell
[06:31] <TehDGM> illmortal: +1
[06:32] <yagoo> pangolin, i tried telling them commands but they refuse to.. he doesnt know how to use console
[06:32] <faryshta_> pangolin: thanks I already tried.
[06:32] <ch3mi0n> Enlightenment ftw
[06:32] <tanath> illmortal, i was of that opinion last i used it. i'm trying to give it another chance. apparently it's improved
[06:32] <illmortal> anyone using Deluge after the upgrade to 11.10? Can't connect with it anymore.
[06:32] <faryshta_> yagoo: quit the harassment please.
[06:32] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, that still exists?
[06:32] <illmortal> tanath.. I sat there for about 30 minutes trying to play with unity
[06:32] <tanath> illmortal, quick torrent link?
[06:32] <illmortal> it was too bloaty
[06:32] <ch3mi0n> yagoo, hell yeah
[06:33] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, it uses enlightment sound daemon still? curious cuse i see alsa and the sorts
[06:33] <pangolin> !ot
[06:33] <TehDGM> i'll be honest. i dont like changes to my gui. at all. so trying the new one is still a big step
[06:33] <illmortal> ya TehDGM. And my UI was completely broken on top of that thanks to the conflict between unity, compiz, and emerald
[06:34] <faryshta_> pangolin: when I run 'modprobe iwl3945' I get: 'WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/fglrx.conf: No such file or directory'
[06:34] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, i can live off ratpoison if u know what i mean :).. thought enlightment went extinct..
[06:34] <tanath> illmortal, just tested deluge. works great for me
[06:34] <dc5ala> any known issue with oneiric not updating screen properly? Like when typing etc.
[06:34] <ch3mi0n> yagoo, I don't know, actually...
[06:34] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, ratpoinson the light wm :)
[06:35] <pangolin> faryshta_: I'm sorry I don't know how to help. I found the link after searching a little and thought maybe it would be useful.
[06:35] <ch3mi0n> Never heard of that one
[06:35] <tanath> TehDGM, i'm very adaptable. still didn't like unity
[06:35] <tanath> i'm liking even less that i'm trying to give it another shot and ubuntu is failing
[06:35] <illmortal> hmm... when I open it. I get a Connection Manager pop up window (never had that before, I don't think). I select it, click, "Connect" and it does nothing, tanath.
[06:35] <faryshta_> pangolin: no problem. Thanks.
[06:35] <ch3mi0n> I think Unity has potential, it just needs to emulate gnome-do more
[06:35] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, i cant stand unity..
[06:35] <tanath> illmortal, sounds like another connection issue other than deluge. i got no such popup
[06:36] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, it's too tabletty
[06:36] <urlin2u> ch3mi0n, gnome-do that makes no sense.
[06:36] <tanath> lol
[06:36] <yagoo> tabltetydo gnome-doalike :p
[06:36] <tanath> gnome-do is bloody great
[06:36] <pangolin> ch3mi0n yagoo could you please take the non support convo elsewhere, $ubuntu-offtopic is a good place.
[06:36] <TehDGM> no the major issue with unity in my opinion is that if you want to do more then just browsing and text editing, it gets in your way rather then helping you. changing a simple configuration takes 5 clicks instead of 2 in regular gnome.
[06:36] <ch3mi0n> I personally run most programs fullscreen anyway, so Unity+maximize is awesome
[06:36] <Karwan> upgrading now :-) (dispite my misgivings about unity)
[06:36] <tanath> if only it didn't crash so much
[06:36]  * TehDGM mumbers something about maximum menu depths
[06:36] <pangolin> s/$/#/
[06:36] <ch3mi0n> urlin2u: ??
[06:36] <jiltdil> Is this speed ok , i am transfering it from my one partiton to other http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/screenshotxle.png/
[06:36] <illmortal> interesting... this time I clicked, "start daemon" and it pops up with an error, "deluge cannot find the deluged executable, it is likely that you forgot to install the deluged package or it's not in your PATH" lol.. I just finished re-installing it too.
[06:37] <ch3mi0n> pangolin: ok
[06:37] <jiltdil> using 64bit
[06:37] <cjs> So, when I moved from 11.04 to 11.10, fvwm over Gnome still works ok for me, but gnome-panel seems to ignore all my customized settings from earlier versions (presumably saved under .gconf). Any thoughts?
[06:37] <urlin2u> ch3mi0n, "I think Unity has potential, it just needs to emulate gnome-do more" gnome3-do is not even a dektop.
[06:37] <tanath> i like that 11.10 seems faster... now i just need it to _work_
[06:37] <ch3mi0n> urlin2u: didn't say it was
[06:38] <tanath> urlin2u, he's comparing gnome-do to the unity launcher
[06:38] <ch3mi0n> urlin2u: unity isn't a "desktop" either... I'm moving to #ubuntu-offtopic so people trying to get help aren't drowned out by our chat
[06:38] <tanath> or getting just about anything done in unity :P
[06:38] <urlin2u> synapse, and the cube, and docky make unity work nicely for me.
[06:39] <tanath> urlin2u, tried synapse and others, but they don't do everything gnome-do does, like pidgin contacts
[06:39] <dr_willis> cube and 'work' are rarely terms used together ;)
[06:39] <joshua__> So, anyone up for trying to get Unity to work?  Not that we've all established that it sucks?
[06:39] <frhodes> is there a bash command to switch users with gdm?
[06:39] <tanath> do like how synapse is lightweight though
[06:39] <ch3mi0n> Guess there's not actually anyone in that chan
[06:39] <joshua__> now*
[06:39] <jiltdil> dr_willis: +1
[06:39] <urlin2u> dr_willis, gotta know how to do it.
[06:39] <tanath> joshua__, me, lol. can't log in to it. not on list >_<
[06:39] <pangolin> ch3mi0n: of course there is, 242 users
[06:39] <dr_willis> frhodes:  you mean logout user 1 and login user 2
[06:40] <joshua__> Me too.   Same problem.
[06:40] <joshua__> I think it has something to do with the Nvidia Graphics card I have.
[06:40] <ch3mi0n> pangolin: bleh, empathy must be messing up then
[06:40] <tanath> ok, so why did nautilus forget my folder view settings on upgrade? >_<
[06:40] <faryshta> Does someone knows how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:40] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, unity is what makes ubuntu.. i dont see how its not a big part of ubuntu.
[06:41] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, but i just commented on it that i dont really use -- hence cant help u with it..
[06:41] <ch3mi0n> huh?
[06:41] <tanath> and where's the icons to switch views? >_<
[06:41] <yagoo> ch3mi0n, yup.. unity is a ubuntu-only project..
[06:41] <ch3mi0n> ....
[06:41] <ch3mi0n> Are you having a conversation with yourself by using my name?
[06:42] <tanath> why do they have to keep removing useful features from everything? >_<
[06:42] <yagoo> seems like you don't remember too well.
[06:42]  * yagoo likes the real geek stuff of ubuntu
[06:42] <ch3mi0n> When did I say unity wasn't a big part of ubu?
[06:42]  * jiltdil ubuntu seems that in some years it will like windows :P
[06:42] <yagoo> pfft
[06:43] <faryshta> Does someone knows how to make a BCM5787M chipset work?
[06:43] <ch3mi0n> They made it the default, what, with 10.04? 9.10?
[06:43] <dr_willis> windiws in a few years may be like unity
[06:43] <dr_willis> !bcm
[06:43] <urlin2u> faryshta, after you did the link voodoo did you logout or reboot?
[06:43] <faryshta> urlin2u: reboot
[06:43] <yagoo> ok.. im out this spammer is really getting to be annoying.
[06:43] <yagoo> gnite folks
[06:44] <tanath> anyone using compiz window previews and find they don't go away 'til you make them? >_<
[06:44] <tanath> so many things broken
[06:44] <ch3mi0n> Finally got empathy to cooperate and join #ubuntu-offtopic properly, moving conversation there
[06:44] <faryshta> urlin2u: the link wasn't useful. I still can't see the drivers on the 'aditional driver' featuer.
[06:45] <urlin2u> faryshta, is that a yes, the deal here is not to repeat yourself often for one, second to give details when you post, otherwise you will get ignored to be honest.
[06:45] <faryshta> urlin2u: what details you need?
[06:46] <tanath> so i had a theme i customized and loved. now on upgrade it's gone and appearance no longer has theme details
[06:46] <urlin2u> faryshta, I cant help you but here is what the bot says.
[06:46] <urlin2u> !details
[06:46] <dr_willis> tanath:  gnome3 does themes differently
[06:46] <faryshta> BCM5787M on ubuntu 11.10 isn't working.
[06:46] <cousin_luigi> Any idea how to change the lightdm theme?
[06:46] <urlin2u> !repeat | faryshta
[06:47] <faryshta> urlin2u: I gave the details you asked.
[06:47] <Engonyr> Joining into the Unity discussion..
[06:47] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi:  seen some docs about doing that online at the webupd8 blog site i belive
[06:47] <Engonyr> I find this version of Unity is _really_ polished
[06:47] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: ok
[06:47] <Engonyr> it hasn't crashed on me once
[06:47] <Engonyr> the Dash is awesome
[06:47] <zaapiel> unity sucks
[06:47] <urlin2u> faryshta, I CAN"T help you but others can read what the bot says for general posting, and reapeating.
[06:47] <zaapiel> dont praise it
[06:47] <jiltdil> dr_willis: please have a look is this speed good m transfering from one partition to another  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/screenshotxle.png/   using 64bit os 4g ram
[06:47] <zaapiel> they wont change it unless everyone compalins
[06:47] <Engonyr> zaapiel: that's your opinion. My opinion is that it rocks.
[06:47] <zaapiel> occupy #ubuntu till unity is dropped
[06:48] <glitch-mod> Can someone help with a sound issue?  http://imgur.com/Y9IMd
[06:48] <faryshta> You can't help me that is ok. Mind if I keep asking for OTHERS to help me?
[06:48] <faryshta> Thank you urlin2u
[06:48] <cousin_luigi> zaapiel: I've heard worse ideas.
[06:48] <tanath> dr_willis, i'm not sure i'm even in gnome 3. i can't bloody right click the panel anymore
[06:48] <truongan> i have a broblem with ubuntu-restricted-extras, can anyone help ?
[06:48] <Engonyr> i'll just join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:48] <tanath> can't move things with middle-click anymore either >_<
[06:48] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  the kind of hd and connection will matter more then the 64/32 bitness or ram size
[06:48] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: did it work with 11.04?
[06:48] <urlin2u> faryshta, within channel rules I am not trying to censor you but get you help by useing them.
[06:49] <zaapiel> http://i.imgur.com/76RkJ.png
[06:49] <jiltdil> dr_willis: hm its sata
[06:49] <joshua__> Can anyone tell me why I get this outcome when running this terminal command to test for the ability to run Unity? http://pastebin.com/vgcinuQa
[06:49] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: I don't know. I have a different chipset than you.
[06:49] <killown> When I did upgrade to 11.10 it does not install lightDM and alot other things that is necessary for the system, like the network manager... why the upgrade from update manager does not the right job?
[06:49] <tanath> gah, can someone just help me get gnome-shell and/or unity into the login screen so i can use one?
[06:49] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: I mean did your card work with the previous version of ubuntu?
[06:50] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  one hd to another sata or one partion to a 2nd partition?    no usb hds ?
[06:50] <tanath> zaapiel, made non-default is more reasonable
[06:50] <jiltdil> dr_willis: one partition to anotehr
[06:51] <urlin2u> tanath, until you get the nvidia card up and running you will not get those desktops I'm quite sure, they are 3d, although there is a 2d unity, not sure in 11.10 though
[06:51] <jiltdil> dr_willis: no usb hds
[06:51] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: yes but not out of the box. It worked pretty bad. I used the same steps as before with no results.
[06:51] <killown> Is there something like apt-get install ubuntu-base ?
[06:51] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  and you think your speeds are low or what exactly?
[06:51] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: ndiswrapper, by any chance?
[06:51] <faryshta> My BCM5787M  chipset on ubuntu 11.10 isn't working. Does someone know how to help?
[06:51] <tanath> urlin2u, i'm not even talking about getting them working necessarily. they're not even options at login right now. THAT'S the problem
[06:51] <c_smith> is there an equivellant of mpeg4v2 in Oneiric that I can use with GTKpod?
[06:51] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: that is my last resource.
[06:51] <jiltdil> dr_willis: Actaully sometimes i get almost of 100 so i think it might be some slow in this case
[06:52] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: what steps did you use in the past?
[06:52] <complexity> [root@NewBeginnings catalog]# mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i";, why won't that go through
[06:52] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: The ndiswrapper site doesn't mention my chipset and its not a native driver.
[06:52] <complexity> please help
[06:52] <urlin2u> tanath, because the system is set to not load them there until they will work I believe, I think your trying to put the cart before the horse.
[06:52] <dr_willis> complexity:  why the "" marks
[06:53] <tanath> urlin2u, o_O
[06:53] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/3642171/wifi-en-fedora-_broadcom_-muy-facil.html
[06:53] <complexity> dr_willis, no idea someone recommended I use them
[06:53] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: replacing yum with apt of course.
[06:53] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: I am rebooting wish me luck.
[06:54] <cjs> God. I am so sick of getting fucked over by Gnome every time I upgrade Ubuntu.
[06:54] <dr_willis> complexity:  i think you may want to spend an hr learninf bash basics. earlier someone gave you a complex command to do all files in a dir. you just pasted part of their example
[06:54] <tanath> urlin2u, 2011-10-14 02:52:32,084 ERROR: xorg:fglrx_updates: get_alternative_by_name(fglrx-updates) returned nothing
[06:54] <urlin2u> !language | cjs
[06:54] <dr_willis> im glad i always do clean installs...
[06:54] <cjs> urlin2u: Sorry.
[06:54] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: not familiar with that, sorry
[06:54] <tanath> urlin2u, it was working before i tried jockey. now driver isn't loaded and i get that error in log
[06:54] <urlin2u> dr_willis, me to always.
[06:55] <tanath> urlin2u, but the entries weren't there before i poked jockey
[06:55]  * jiltdil always prefer to fresh install
[06:55] <urlin2u> tanath, I am not the person to ask for help it is outside of my pay rate.
[06:55] <tanath> lol
[06:56] <urlin2u> tanath, If I new card drivers I would help, but never have had to load one. :D
[06:56] <jiltdil> Is jockey issue fixed in 11.10?
[06:56] <s1> !gnome2
[06:56] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me with a BCM5787M chipset on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:56] <el_seano> !notunity
[06:56] <dr_willis> which issue. ;) of the dozens..
[06:56] <cjs> So how does one configure the unity-2d-panel?
[06:57] <urlin2u> cjs, as in?
[06:57] <cjs> Right-clicking on it doesn't seem to work. (Just like it doesn't work any more in gnome-panel, either.)
[06:57] <c_smith> so, anyone know an alternative to mpeg4v2 and mp4ip for GTKpod?
[06:57] <dr_willis> cjs the webupd8 blog site had an artical on tweaking unity2d
[06:57] <cjs> As in, putting it on the left side rather than the top, changing the colors, etc.
[06:57] <c_smith> being as those two were removed from the repos in Oneiric.
[06:58] <dr_willis> cj s short answer is - i dont think you can do all that any more
[06:58] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me with a BCM5787M chipset on ubuntu 11.10?
[06:59] <killown> How to change the icon theme of the ubuntu 11.10? there is no place to do that...
[06:59] <dr_willis> faryshta_:  you have checked the forums and askubuntu.com also?
[06:59] <dr_willis> killown:  theres a gnome tweak tool.
[06:59] <faryshta_> dr_willis: I checked the forums I didn't knew about ask ubuntu
[06:59] <urlin2u> cjs, you can put a docky on the left never used awn but it probably does as well.
[06:59] <illmortal> ah deluge issue was I had deluge-gtk lol :P
[07:00] <illmortal> had to uninstall deluge + deluge-gtk
[07:00] <cjs> urlin2u: I don't undertand what you just said.
[07:00] <cjs> dr_willis: Ouch!
[07:00] <cjs> urlin2u: Are you talking about alternative panel applications?
[07:00] <urlin2u> cjs, try looking on the web for docky and awn and ubuntu.
[07:00] <urlin2u> cjs, basically yes.
[07:00] <dr_willis> www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[07:01] <dr_willis> has a lot of must read configing info
[07:01] <cousin_luigi> ok, I'm almost done here
[07:01] <cousin_luigi> Does anyone know how to move the window buttons on the right side?
[07:01] <cousin_luigi> (on gnome-classic)
[07:02] <dr_willis> !controls
[07:02] <tanath> how do you increase mouse sensitivity at login? it moves unbearably slow
[07:02] <tanath> urlin2u, so, i reverted to the driver that works and still not showing gnome-shell or unity at login
[07:02] <cjs> urlin2u: Ah, I see. Those look a little, well, "flashy" to me. Basically, I do most launching etc. though FVWM, so I'm just looking mostly for a minimalistic home for the status panel. Do you have thoughts on what might be best for that?
[07:02] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: does that apply to gnome-classic as well?
[07:02] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me with a BCM5787M chipset on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:03] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi:  should.. try it and see..
[07:03] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: it doesn't
[07:03] <tanath> !ask | faryshta_
[07:03] <dr_willis> cousin_luigi:  in 11.04 or 11.10?
[07:03] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: but I remember I had managed to before reinstalling
[07:03] <nnfx> cousin_luigi, sudo -u user /usr/bin/gconftool-2 -s -t string /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[07:03] <cousin_luigi> dr_willis: 11.10
[07:03] <faryshta_> tanath I asked a question.
[07:03] <urlin2u> cjs, hard to say really I use synapse mostly to bring up apps but my needs are pretty simple.
[07:04] <tanath> faryshta_, not a useful one
[07:04] <nnfx> cousin_luigi, where user is your login
[07:04] <dr_willis> theres a classic in 11.10?
[07:04] <faryshta_> tanath: again. What is a useful question here?
[07:04] <smw> dr_willis, gnome-panel I think
[07:04] <cousin_luigi> nnfx: trying
[07:04] <metellius> *sigh* Hash sum mismatch, BADSIG, Failed to fetch, bzip2 corruption etc (all related). My upgrade fails at the very first step because of issues download package lists. has anyone else had this? I've seen it on my home pc, and me an several others at work are also getting it
[07:04] <tanath> dr_willis, kinda. install gnome-session-fallback. it's what i'm using...
[07:04] <cjs> urlin2u: What is Synapse? It doesn't sound like anything listed on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synapse_(disambiguation)
[07:04] <smw> tanath, are any features missing?
[07:04] <dr_willis> thats gnomeshells/g3s failsafe  ;) not the same as classic in 11.04
[07:05] <cjs> My needs are extremely simple, too.
[07:05] <cousin_luigi> nnfx: thanks, it worked!:)
[07:05] <tanath> smw, it's 11.10. there's tons of stuff missing >_<
[07:05] <nnfx> cousin_luigi, ofc it did :)
[07:05] <nemon82papa> i was using beta, and now its all updated... Do i still have to install last release
[07:05] <tanath> dr_willis, well it still says classic at login
[07:05] <slothbag> hey all, is it possible to get synergy to work with lightdm in 11.10?  I only have remote keyboard & mouse to ubuntu box
[07:05] <andyn> just installed 11.10 on my lenovo e325, however, the machine can't boot from the hard disk. might it be related to EFI?
[07:05] <dr_willis> nemon82papa: no
[07:05] <urlin2u> cjs, synapse is similar to gnome-do http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/synapse-gnome-do-launcher-app-review-ubuntu/
[07:05] <smw> tanath, And this is why my laptop still runs 10.10 and my desktop runs 11.04 in classic mode
[07:05] <frooh> so I just upgraded and now when I log into X it shows a full screen nautalis, instead of like, a background and other stuff
[07:06] <frooh> no matter what login options I select that happens
[07:06] <smw> tanath, And I am looking at replacements for ubuntu :-\
[07:06] <cousin_luigi> the only things that remains to be fixed is the flashplugin
[07:06] <tanath> smw, indeed. i thought i'd give unity and gnome-shell a try and regretting it already. can't even get into them.
[07:06] <smw> tanath, are you upset you upgraded?
[07:06] <tanath> smw, yeah i looked around. i might be switching to mint
[07:06] <cousin_luigi> why does flashplugin-installer try to download nspluginwrapper and all that jazz even when it does exist a native 64 bit plugin?
[07:06] <smw> tanath, looking at pcbsd now :-). Mint is on the shortlist
[07:07] <tanath> smw, kind of, yes. i still wanna fix this stuff and give it a fair shake though before i ditch
[07:07] <metellius> cousin_luigi: probably because the native one hasn't made it into ubuntu yet
[07:07] <urlin2u> cousin_luigi, use flash aid the Firefox addon.
[07:07] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:07] <RP64> hey can anyone PM chat me for problems updating my flash i prefer PMs
[07:07] <cousin_luigi> metellius: odd, it's been out for a while now
[07:07] <smw> tanath, fair enough. Gnome-shell sucks too?
[07:07] <frooh> anyone know how I can get it to start vanilla gnome when I log in?
[07:07] <smw> !notunity > frooh
[07:07] <tanath> smw, not sure. i can't get that or unity to show at login screen. didn't have them installed when upgrading...
[07:08] <tanath> smw, so i can't log into them.. >_<
[07:08] <urlin2u> RP64, PM are discouraged as we all learn from each others help, use the FF addon flash aid and choose the latest or the beta.
[07:08] <smw> tanath, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[07:08] <tanath> smw, that's how i installed them. (only with aptitude)
[07:08] <dr_willis> or install ubuntu-desktop tanath
[07:08] <smw> tanath, reboot?
[07:08] <tanath> smw, but they're not in the list
[07:09] <RP64> urlin2u? flash aid? Oh I didn't know about that what I did was install the add on "flash 11" through firefox and the default was flash 10, it installed and ran flash 11 and 10 at the same time, if I disable 10 , 11 doesn't work, if I disable 11, 10 does work
[07:09] <tanath> dr_willis, oh hell no. that installs way too much crap i don't want
[07:09] <RP64> urlin2u: and there's no option to uninstall either
[07:09] <tanath> smw, more than once :P
[07:09] <dr_willis> tanath:  so what does show in the login screen?
[07:09] <urlin2u> RP64, flash aid will fix all that.
[07:09] <murlidhar> hello all . i have just upgraded my laptop to oneric and am not able to login into the desktop at all. only black screen comes after a while. no login screen.
[07:09] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:09] <cousin_luigi> urlin2u: it relies on flashplugin-nonfree, which is likewise tainted
[07:10] <RP64> urlin2u: I have a confession if I'm using Mint not regular Ubuntu will it work the same? lol
[07:10] <tanath> dr_willis, elementary, which i had installed and didn't care for but forgot to uninstall, gnome classic, and 'user defined option' or something
[07:10] <zaapiel> dont force your gpl down my throat
[07:10] <tanath> and i think failsafe or something
[07:10] <RP64> urlin2u:  it will i'm sure...yea it def should work
[07:10] <zaapiel> i dont care about software licenses and most users dont either
[07:10] <urlin2u> RP64, should you will have to try, not sure really.
[07:10] <costin> hi ppl!
[07:10] <smw> zaapiel, what are you talking about?
[07:10] <zaapiel> im just raging
[07:10] <killown> After the upgrade to 11.10 the sound no long works, do anyone help me?
[07:11] <smw> zaapiel, I hate GPL too. But not sure what that has to do with you :-P
[07:11] <zaapiel> BSD is the only true free license
[07:11] <zaapiel> do what you want with it
[07:11] <tanath> zaapiel, focus your rage appropriately. more likely to make a difference then. choose your battles, etc. good licenses benefit all
[07:11] <smw> zaapiel, I agree
[07:11] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:11] <smw> tanath, gpl must die :-P
[07:12] <zaapiel> gpl is a cancer
[07:12] <zaapiel> it taints all it touches
[07:12] <dr_willis> !gpl
[07:12] <tanath> smw, whyzat? promotes sharing and such...
[07:12] <zaapiel> it forces sharing
[07:12] <zaapiel> it doesnt promote it
[07:12] <dr_willis> getting ot...
[07:12] <tanath> that's a bad thing?
[07:12] <zaapiel> yes
[07:12] <smw> tanath, if you want, I can debate you in offtopic ;-)
[07:12] <tanath> smw, tempting, but it's after 3am here.
[07:12] <glitch-mod> I have no sound can someone please take a quick look at this output http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8730adfb36ba7e013f73e7db71948596b8f27229
[07:13] <smw> tanath, ah, east coast US?
[07:13] <tanath> smw, i really just wanna fix a prob or two
[07:13] <tanath> smw, canadian
[07:13] <smw> tanath, cool
[07:13] <tanath> apparently
[07:14] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:14] <tanath> *sigh* i give up for now. imma watch big bang theory and go to sleep :-/
[07:14] <tanath> nite all
[07:14] <mekwall> Hmm, repeating of key when held down stops working for me. I have to open keyboard settings and re-tick that setting for it to start working again. Any solution to this?
[07:15] <Geoffrey2> anyone know what happened to the Broadcom firmware cutter?  I can't find it anywhere in 11.10....
[07:15] <cjs> urlin2u: Ah, ok. So I'm not clear on whether gnome-panel is considered an "application launcher," and whether application launchers also hold the notificaiton area.
[07:16] <cjs> urlin2u: (I mean, notification area and so on.) So, where do you see, e.g., your sound and network icons? In your Synapse display?
[07:17] <somethinginteres> hi all, I have installed the latest VirtualBox on Ubuntu's newly released 11.10 by download the AMD64 Deb file. The progam is install and can be run from terminal with no problems but there doesn't appear to be icon for the program itself to start it without using the command line. There was an icon on 11.04. Any ideas?
[07:17] <urlin2u> cjs, in the classic gnome panel is a notification area, it is different then a application launcher except for what is running it will control.
[07:18] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:18] <minato> Hi all. Im running Empathy 2.30.3 in lucid. My contact list is now invisible (Using jitsy I see it ok, half the peolple on the list connected). Any one with this "bug"?
[07:18] <cjs> urlin2u: Err...I didn't quite understand that again.
[07:18] <cousin_luigi> faryshta_: do you remember what firmware you were using in the past?
[07:18] <d3vlin> Just upgraded to Oneiric, but after booting I get command prompt tty1 instead of X. According to Xorg.0.log it can't find nvidia module. When I start lightdm then manually all is fine. I guess nvidia module is not loaded yet when X fires... is there a solution to this?
[07:18] <faryshta_> cousin_luigi: kmod-wl
[07:18] <cousin_luigi> faryshta_: that's the module
[07:18] <faryshta_> cousin_luigi: I think.
[07:19] <cousin_luigi> any additional binary blob?
[07:19] <faryshta_> cousin_luigi: I am not sure. I installed the kmod-wl package.
[07:19] <glitch-mod> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8730adfb36ba7e013f73e7db71948596b8f27229  -- corrected
[07:19] <Edisto> hmmm... is eclipse and qt4 built into 11.10?
[07:19] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[07:20] <Edisto> nm brb rebooting to 11.10
[07:21] <Guest46533> damn, how can I have my old good destop ?, 11:10 default look way too much like mac
[07:23] <harshada1> hello guys
[07:23] <Kestion> hey
[07:23] <harshada1> hello guys
[07:23] <Kestion> hey again
[07:23] <costin> hi
[07:23] <Kestion> hey
[07:24] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:26] <Kestion> google is your friend
[07:26] <spartan7> I'm looking to virtualize a few servers. The hardware is a dual core 4 gig 2.2Ghz machine and would like to know the best software to do this under Ubuntu Server.
[07:26] <smw> spartan7, libvirt
[07:27] <zeerox> there is something really wrong with my ubuntu server, i setup dhcp for my switch > modem and setup net sharing for my windows clients, but for some reason it keeps disconnecting the modem and also sometimes the clients in windows (can still telnet to the box, just the net keeps dropping out) i set it up all with the how-tos on the ubuntu site
[07:27] <smw> spartan7, probably KVM
[07:27] <zeerox> at first it was working fine, but past few days its having probs havnt changed a thing
[07:27] <pratz> hey guys i can you please suggest me a good software to create DFD's ??
[07:28] <ashok_shetty> what is DFDs
[07:28] <smw> pratz, DIA
[07:28] <spartan7> smw, is kvm mostly commandline based?
[07:28] <smw> pratz, I also like the non-free Poseidon.
[07:29] <smw> spartan7, kvm is a technology in the kernel. You can use cli or gui
[07:29] <smw> spartan7, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[07:30] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:30] <smw> spartan7, the introduction is great
[07:30] <Edisto> wow.... i upgraded to 11.10 and now i can't even load into ubuntu. I get 4 solid orange dots and it stalls
[07:31] <spartan7> smw, I know. last time I tried kvm there was no gui and the cli was a bit hard. Thanks for the link I'll check it out. Isn't Xen in the kernal now as well?
[07:32] <smw> spartan7, isn't xen hypervisor not linux?
[07:32] <red> http://askubuntu.com/questions/65649/application-indicators-not-working-on-primary-monitor
[07:32] <red> halp :)
[07:32] <Guest46533> hey guys, how can I have old desktop configuration ? just installed ubuntu 11.10, really not a mac fan here
[07:33] <smw> spartan7, nm, xen is also there
[07:34] <zeerox> i setup dhcp for my switch > modem and setup net sharing for my windows clients, but for some reason it keeps disconnecting the other clients and sometimes the modem (can still telnet to the box, just the net keeps dropping out) i set it up all with the how-tos on the ubuntu site any suggestions?
[07:34] <zeerox> as u can see its disconnecting me random from here to
[07:34] <spartan7> smw, thank you for the link I think KVM will be perfect. the performance stats are excellent
[07:34] <Edisto> if you keep crashing at bootup is there anything to press down that bypass to terminal?
[07:35] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:35] <ffk27> how do i get the good old gnome 2 for ubuntu 11.10?
[07:35] <ffk27> gnome 2 was just perfrect for me
[07:35] <airtonix> ffk27: install it?
[07:35] <PurpleSmoke> ffk27 install gnome-shell
[07:35] <ffk27> i want the orginal lucid desktop
[07:35] <ffk27> thats not the same
[07:35] <smw> ffk27, I don't think gnome2 is available in oneric
[07:35] <PurpleSmoke> then login into classic gnome
[07:35] <ffk27> ye fuck ubuntu
[07:35] <smw> !notunity > ffk27
[07:36] <s1> Edisto: can you get to the GRUB menu!
[07:36] <s1> !gnome2
[07:36] <s1> !notunity
[07:36] <Da|Mummy> when ubuntu updates to new version, will i lose my current HOME folder and everything in it?
[07:36] <smw> Da|Mummy, no
[07:36] <SunTsu> Da|Mummy: only if you kill your box
[07:36] <ffk27> i better use 10.04 again
[07:37] <SunTsu> Da|Mummy: normally you won't, still I'd make backups of important stuff
[07:37] <smw> ffk27, 11.04 is not bad.
[07:37] <smw> ffk27, I run 10.10 on my laptop and 11.04 on desktop
[07:37] <SunTsu> ffk27: _10_.04? Seriously?
[07:37] <smw> ffk27, I am currently seeking an alternative distro to switch to when I have the time.
[07:37] <Guest46533> ffk27, you also have xfce or lxde no ? is it just desktop issue ?
[07:37] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:37] <airtonix> Guest46533: he's just looking for something to be mad at
[07:38] <smw> airtonix, you don't have to look hard
[07:38] <smw> airtonix, I am pissed.
[07:38] <airtonix> smw: neither do you
[07:38] <Guest46533> well I also not fan on new interface, don't found it interesting yet.
[07:39] <glitch-mod> Can anyone help me, I have  no sound;  Realtek ALC272X
[07:39] <airtonix> lighta: early days, the gnome3 interface is based on css and javascript so the tools to customise are available and familiar to a larger group of people than they were on gnome2
[07:40] <mroland> Anyone here get Ubantu to display properly on a Macbook Air 11inch yet?
[07:40] <mroland> Would be a great challange if anyone could get it to work :D
[07:41] <lighta> oh ? I should check that then airtonix that could be interessing, what I don't like it's the up panel. I used to have many app open and switch there, how can I do that now. also I don't see my cli shortcute anymore (yes alt+f2+xterm is too long)
[07:41] <s1> faryshta_: does the driver of that chipset shows up within " lshw -C network " .?
[07:42] <faryshta_> s1 don't know, let me send the outcome by PV
[07:43] <tapout> is unity forced on 11.10?  classic a no go now?
[07:43] <SunTsu> tapout: nope
[07:43] <airtonix> lighta: keyboard shortcuts lets you configure them
[07:43] <smw> !nounity > tapout
[07:44]  * s1 lag!
[07:45] <stephni> am currently upgrading how do i backup my data and installed apps?
[07:45] <PurpleSmoke> no
[07:45] <FluffNiggz> yay!
[07:45] <FluffNiggz> I have arrived
[07:45] <Engonyr> Does anyone know how to move the Workspace Switcher up in the Unity Bar?
[07:46] <Engonyr> As soon as I have too many apps open, I have to scroll to get to it
[07:46] <SunTsu> stephni: the way you want to. Put them on a different box or external hdd, or eben usb pen drive
[07:46] <FluffNiggz> I just got kicked from the #redhat chan for telling them they were girly men for using redhat, lol, told them to drop that gay shit and get a real OS like DEBIAN
[07:46] <PoontangClan> hello
[07:46] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:46] <smw> FluffNiggz, offtopic and watch your language
[07:47] <PoontangClan> broadcom wifi?
[07:47] <intok> So whats the state of the i845 GPU driver in 11.10??
[07:47] <PoontangClan> i845 LOL
[07:47] <PoontangClan> I have one of those too
[07:47] <PoontangClan> I have MAD Issues with GMA in Ubuntu
[07:48] <PoontangClan> vivid is the name of a porn company
[07:48] <viky> hi there.. After upgrading to 11.10 I'm unable to login from the GUI, though I can login form tty1 (Ctrl + Alt + F1)
[07:48] <blocky> if gnome shell is not starting on my virtual machine even when I select Gnome from session manager, is there a log file that says why gnome shell failed to start?
[07:48] <jussi> PoontangClan: lets try keep family friendly and ontopic please.
[07:49] <PoontangClan> I had the same issue
[07:49] <tapout> tkx
[07:49] <PoontangClan> when I upgraded from 10 to 11 with Intel GMA i845
[07:49] <viky> my works are stalled because of this..
[07:49] <PoontangClan> I ended up reinstallation fresh
[07:49] <viky> is there a way to recover this?
[07:49] <faryshta_> Hello can someone help me to make a BCM5787M chipset work on ubuntu 11.10?
[07:49] <PoontangClan> and the gfx performance is HORRIBLE in ubuntu 11 with that chipset
[07:49] <PoontangClan> It was better in UBuntu 9
[07:50] <PoontangClan> they did something to butcher the driver
[07:50] <PoontangClan> unsure what
[07:50] <PoontangClan> makes opengl or anythign accelerated perform about half what it should be
[07:50] <viky> PoontangClan: I cant do that as I dont want to break my project flow
[07:50] <PoontangClan> well, we both know i845 is ancient
[07:50] <tapout> unity in 11.10 is actually *nice*.   I may use it.. actually.
[07:50] <jussi> viky: try creating a new user to see if it is your config that is the issue
[07:51] <jussi> PoontangClan: you arent being overly helpful.
[07:51] <davidvip> guys, what is Online Account for?
[07:51] <PoontangClan> btw cntrl atl backspace will force GDM to restart
[07:51] <PoontangClan> control alt f1 will drop u to a command prompt
[07:51] <viky> I'm able to login to the other account that I  already had
[07:52] <PoontangClan> why did u mute FluffNiggz?
[07:52] <jussi> viky: so it seems to be some sort of config issue - Im not so certain how to solve that.
[07:52] <viky> ok, anyway thanks jussi
[07:52] <jussi> !offtopic | PoontangClan
[07:52] <PoontangClan> im trying to be helpful there
[07:52] <intok> PoontangClan yeah, in 11.04 I have to use the VESA driver as the actual i845 drivers crash randomly every 2 mins-2 hours
[07:52] <PoontangClan> sharing what I have also experienced with that same chipset
[07:52] <PoontangClan> i think the opers of this channel are assholes IMHO, we can take our discussion elsewhere
[07:53] <pangolin> !language | PoontangClan
[07:56] <Noob> hy
[07:56] <Noob> some one can help me?
[07:56] <davidvip> hi all
[07:56] <Noob> hy ^^
[07:56] <davidvip> what is Online Account use for?
[07:56] <andyn> ahh, authority problems
[07:57] <lighta> davidvip, ubuntuone as I remenber
[07:57] <lighta> (backup)
[07:57] <Noob> so...
[07:58] <norbert_> hey folks, I upgraded to 11.10 and noticed the icons I had placed on the top bar have disappeared
[07:58] <norbert_> not a real problem because I can just move them back
[07:58] <Noob> ive got a great bug on my acount...
[07:58] <Companion> norbert_, perhaps using a sledgehammer for it
[07:58] <cutiyar> i upgraded to 11.10 , but do not boot after restart ask for network configuration.
[07:58] <Noob> ive updated 11.04 to 11.10...
[07:59] <Noob> and now my account is wichout unity
[07:59] <norbert_> lots of icons (the images) disappeared though, which is kind of annoying
[07:59] <Noob> and the guest is working well
[07:59] <calaveraFN> !plymouth
[07:59] <jussi> davidvip: online account is ubuntu one iirc
[08:00] <cutiyar> i upgraded to 11.10 , but do not boot after restart ask for network configuration.
[08:00] <Noob> great...
[08:00] <davidvip> that means to backup my data into ubuntu1? then why it needs Google account logins?
[08:00]  * Companion likes his rolling release :)
[08:01] <thefinn93> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gofUotkUfQ what would cause this?
[08:01] <Companion> reisio, thats naughty
[08:01] <reisio> Companion: is it?
[08:01] <Companion> reisio, why did you CTCP me? :)
[08:01] <Noob> \o\
[08:01] <reisio> Companion: so I could see the output
[08:01] <Noob>  /o/
[08:01] <Companion> reisio, of...
[08:02] <reisio> /ctcp reisio version
[08:02] <Companion> ah
[08:02] <reisio> mine is fake of course
[08:02] <reisio> but yours isn't :)
[08:02] <teresa_> What's the default calendar software in Ubuntu 11.10. The calendar in the clock menu seems to be broken...
[08:02] <Companion> reisio, I got  nothin to hide :)
[08:02] <zeerox> how can i get a file to display to say tty2 (eg syslog)?
[08:03] <reisio> mine doesn't actually hide anything, it's just sillier than reality :p
[08:03] <Noob> no body cares a noob
[08:03] <Noob> u.u
[08:03] <reisio> zeerox: tail -f /var/log/something ?
[08:03] <zeerox> thankyou reisio
[08:03] <Companion> reisio, I noticed
[08:03] <Noob> hello...
[08:03] <Companion> you simply added a custom version under CTCP replies :)
[08:04] <reisio> what, you dare say my version is fabricated!? :p
[08:04] <reisio> Noob: hi
[08:04] <SunTsu> Noob: acting like you do makes people ignore you
[08:04] <faryshta> how can I make the wifi work on an hp 6735b?
[08:04] <cousin_luigi> hello
[08:04] <Companion> reisio, I call your version constructed
[08:04] <reisio> cousin_luigi: hi
[08:04] <reisio> Companion: heh
[08:04] <Noob> SunTsu: yep... =/
[08:04] <cousin_luigi> reisio: you're everywhere:)
[08:04] <Noob> reisio: hy
[08:05] <Noob> i just want help...
[08:05] <cousin_luigi> Do you know how to use compiz on gnome-classic without losing the ability to configure panels?
[08:05] <zeerox> i setup dhcp for my switch > modem, setup net sharing for my windows clients, for some reason keeps disconnecting the win clients and sometimes the modem (can still telnet to the box, just the net keeps dropping out) i set it up all with the how-tos on the ubuntu site any suggestions?
[08:05] <zeerox> was working fine till a few days ago and i didnt change a thing
[08:05] <faryshta> how can I make the wifi work on an hp 6735b?
[08:05] <SunTsu> Noob: Maybe you should try to be less a nuissance and actually ask your problem in a constructive way
[08:05] <faryshta> cousin_luigi: which is your laptop model?
[08:05] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: Not using a laptop atm, why?
[08:05] <reisio> faryshta: looks like you want ssb for bcm4322
[08:05] <cousin_luigi> faryshta: I have a bcm4318 on my desktop.
[08:06] <CodeWar> do you guys know of a netbook/laptop that uses Ubuntu on ARM
[08:06] <Noob> SunTsu: the problem is that my account on the ubuntu 11.10 dont have unity and the guest is all fine
[08:06] <reisio> cousin_luigi: you lost the ability to configurep anels...?
[08:06] <reisio> CodeWar: why do you ask
[08:06] <lea_> Hello, Please help me setup Compiz Ezoom up runing again in 11.10. I am visually impaired and strongly need it. I have much pain reading now
[08:06] <SunTsu> Noob: what guest?
[08:07] <CodeWar> reisio, I d like to familiarize myself with their instruction set .. having one for daily usage would be great
[08:07] <Noob> SunTsu: visitors account...
[08:07] <reisio> CodeWar: ah
[08:07] <Noob> sorry for the english =/
[08:07] <crash1hd> does anyone know how to fix an efi boot?
[08:07] <CodeWar> learn while you play
[08:07] <reisio> CodeWar: I guess I'd ask #hardware
[08:07] <SunTsu> Noob: what does your account have instead?
[08:07] <reisio> CodeWar: you only need one that's generically Linux compatible, though
[08:07] <faryshta> I am having wifi problems. http://www.reddit.com/comments/lbtx3/c2relit here is a copy of my lspci command.
[08:08] <reisio> CodeWar: of course... kvm can emulate ARM
[08:08] <zeerox> :/
[08:08] <teresa_> No one know how I can use the calendar in the clock menu of the 11.10 release?
[08:08] <reisio> CodeWar: what processor are you using right now?
[08:08] <Noob> SunTsu: ive updated from 11.04 to 11.10 and thats happens
[08:09] <CodeWar> reisio, atom at the moment I would love to get hold of a quadcore or dual core Tegra/TI? in netbook configuration
[08:09] <zeerox> think i found the problem
[08:09] <Noob> on the 11.04 was ok...
[08:09] <zeerox> can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases no such file or directory
[08:09] <reisio> CodeWar: which atom
[08:09] <SunTsu> Noob: so, what do you get when you try to log in?
[08:09] <CodeWar> reisio, N280
[08:10] <girishr> after updating 11.10/unity, switching between gnome-terminal tabs is extremely slow. it takes 2 seconds to switch tabs
[08:10] <girishr> i am using nvida prop. driver
[08:10] <girishr> is this a known problem?
[08:10] <Noob> SunTsu: ive got the desk top with icons... but no side bar.. or upper bar.. no clock...
[08:10] <gribouille> hi
[08:10] <CodeWar>  let me ask this .. Ubuntu is supporting Server on ARM right? what hardware did you guys use to test it
[08:10] <gribouille> I've installend oneiric, but I can't start X, because it can't load the nvidia kernel module. how can I solve this?
[08:11] <ntr0py> is there a way to install gnome2 on ubuntu?
[08:11] <Noob> SunTsu: and upper bar was wich "funtions" of the desktop...
[08:11] <reisio> CodeWar: ARM is well supported by Linux
[08:11] <cousin_luigi> reisio: alt-rightclick doesn't work anymore
[08:11] <oCean> !arm | CodeWar
[08:11] <reisio> gribouille: hi
[08:11] <mekwall> I don't really get how the nvidia drivers work with moving windows... When you move it slowly its all fine, but as soon as you up your speed it starts to stutter like insane
[08:11] <xannen> 11.10 Networking issue: no network after upgrade.  and no network on live cd boot either.  network/internet was all fine before update.   and other network comp have no issues with connection or internet.  please help.
[08:11] <faryshta> I am having wifi problems. http://www.reddit.com/comments/lbtx3/c2relit here is a copy of my lspci command.
[08:11] <cousin_luigi> reisio: and I like the compiz screen magnifier
[08:12] <reisio> gribouille: lsmod | grep -i nvidia has nothing?
[08:12] <gribouille> reisio, no
[08:12] <RichTUK> ntr0py: "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback"  i think
[08:12] <gribouille> reisio, but eh nouveau driver is loaded
[08:13] <ffk27> please developers add gnome 2 again
[08:13] <Math^> anyone here using Xubuntu? I was wondering what calculator app it's using
[08:13] <reisio> gribouille: which do you want?
[08:13] <douggle> ffk27
[08:13] <douggle> just install gnome-shell
[08:13] <douggle> and then you dont need gnome 2
[08:13] <CodeWar> ok that wiki explains it .. apparently there is no server grade ARM hardware that is being used as a test vehicle
[08:13] <gribouille> reisio, In don't know. I just want to run X
[08:13] <douggle> i m not using unity on gnome 3
[08:13] <RichTUK> ffk27: why its no longer supported, add it yourself if you want it
[08:13] <ffk27> lol its still diffrent
[08:13] <Noob> hello?
[08:13] <reisio> CodeWar: it's much more popular for handhelds
[08:13] <lighta> Math^, what u mean by calculator something like scilab, mapple, matlab, or gnumeric ?
[08:14] <Math^> lighta, the one that comes by default in Xubuntu
[08:14] <glitch-mod> Can anybody help me with this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/873938
[08:14] <reisio> CodeWar: and I wouldn't be surprised if most of Ubuntu's ARM support so far is from Debian
[08:14] <manas_> hi, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 on my Sony Vaio, the touch pad doesnt work anymore???
[08:14] <lighta> Math^, gnumeric as I remenber, but idk if you talking the same thing as me, something to do spreedsheet ?
[08:14] <tarzeau> i'm surprised. the upgrade worked, and it's much better than natty!
[08:14] <Math^> lighta, I'll check, thnx :)
[08:15] <tarzeau> even the netboot installer preseed configuration worked so far without ANY changes...
[08:15] <douggle> alot of people are having issues it seems. I m having a very small one with wine and audio.
[08:15] <Noob> SunTsu: hm...
[08:15] <gribouille> reisio, if I remove the nvidia driver, will X work with nouveau?
[08:15] <reisio> gribouille: didn't sound like you had the nvidia driver
[08:16] <zeerox> can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases no such file or directory (could this be causing my internet to be disconnecting all the time).............
[08:16] <reisio> gribouille: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*
[08:16] <SunTsu> Noob: I have no idea, did you have errors while upgrading?
[08:16] <reisio> gribouille: http://dpaste.com/
[08:16] <reisio> jesus the irony...
[08:16] <SunTsu> zeerox: do you have /var/lib/dhcp3? If not create it
[08:17] <Noob> SunTsu: the power gone off... :X but its was on the downloads... and have checked...
[08:17] <manas_> can anyone help!!
[08:17] <ntr0py> RichTUK: that is gnome3 fallback i think
[08:17] <manas_> mousepad not working eversince i upgraded to ubuntu 11.10
[08:17] <SunTsu> or change the dhcpd to use something under /var/run, where some dhcpd directory should exist
[08:17] <SunTsu> Noob: did you complete your installation?
[08:18] <Noob> SunTsu: yes
[08:18] <faryshta> I am having wifi problems. http://www.reddit.com/comments/lbtx3/c2relit here is a copy of my lspci command.
[08:18] <sirpengi> is it just me or is there nothing to manage a screensaver in system-settings in 11.10?
[08:18] <Noob> SunTsu: rebooted all ok...
[08:18] <SunTsu> Noob: how?
[08:18] <gribouille> reisio, http://dpaste.com/634162/
[08:18] <Noob> SunTsu: the power goed off on the downloads...
[08:18] <RichTUK> ntr0py: did you run that command?
[08:18] <kuchiku> so in the whole of linux there's only 2 network manager ?
[08:18] <kuchiku> i mean app
[08:19] <reisio> gribouille: okay, can you sudo modprobe nvidia && sudo rmmod nouveau ?
[08:19] <Noob> SunTsu: i just turned on.. and the system checked what was left... and downloaded.. and then installed...
[08:20] <reisio> gribouille: and then check /etc/modules
[08:20] <Math^> meh, can't find it... anyone here using Xubuntu? I need to know what calculator app Xubuntu is using by default. :)
[08:20] <zeerox> can someone please look at http://dpaste.com/634164/ i am having big probs with my internet :[
[08:20] <gribouille> reisio, I'm not under oneiric now. I have to switch first
[08:20] <reisio> gribouille: what're you under?
[08:20] <gribouille> reisio, maverick
[08:20] <reisio> Math^: got a screenshot?
[08:20] <RichTUK> ntr0py: you need to log out and select gnome classic, its no just gona auto do it after the command is finished in terminal
[08:20] <ntr0py> RichTUK: no i searched in synaptic
[08:20] <Math^> reisi, ye hold on
[08:20] <reisio> gribouille: why do you have two installs...
[08:20] <kountry_gentlema> I just upgraded to 11.10 & my webcam nor my dvd drive work.  My upgrade did not finished and said there was an error.
[08:20] <SunTsu> Noob: that sounds OK, could you please pastey ~/.xsession-errors
[08:20] <Noob> SunTsu: ive got some problems before... with the unity of the 11.04....
[08:20] <bingopajama> hello all
[08:21] <reisio> kountry_gentlema: what error?
[08:21] <manas_> Mousepad not working after upgrade to 11.10
[08:21] <Noob> SunTsu: how to..?
[08:21] <reisio> bingopajama: hi
[08:21] <RichTUK> ntr0py: its the correct command, ytou need to run it in terminal
[08:21] <Math^> reisi, http://www.screenshots-archive.com/files/images/09_some_stuff2.png
[08:21] <gribouille> reisio, because I never upgrade to a new distribution. I don't want to break a working system
[08:21] <Math^> just saying "calculator" lol :p
[08:21] <phlak_user> zeerox:  this is mighty strange -> DHCPREQUEST of 122.150.109.87 on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67
[08:21] <SunTsu> Noob: er, you open that file, copy it's content to http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[08:21] <Noob> ok
[08:21] <bingopajama> anyone here know anything about vim and how it is used in setting up MTP on natty 11.04?
[08:22] <kountry_gentlema> I don't remember exactly but It restarted and everything but my webcam and dvd drive seem to be working.
[08:22] <reisio> gribouille: it's funny, I think Ubuntu is the only distribution that has these sorts of upgrade issues :p
[08:22] <phlak_user> zeerox: what is your configuration? is your modem a transparent bridge? how are you setting up the Internet connection?
[08:22] <reisio> bingopajama: what?
[08:22] <phlak_user> !details | zeerox
[08:22] <znow> I have a vm with ubuntu 11.04 running on auto eth0 - but I need to set a static IP aswell, so I can access it with putty from windows... I need to set it to 192.168.200.120, what should be the gateway and dns servers?
[08:22] <ntr0py> RICHTUK: yes i installed gnome-shell but thats all that gnome3 crap...
[08:22] <jennyhot> hi
[08:22] <jennyhot> asl
[08:22] <jennyhot> hi all
[08:22] <bingopajama> trying to get mp3 player recognized by transformer on natty
[08:22] <reisio> Math^: 1min
[08:23] <RichTUK> ntr0py: did you run that comman tho, its not the same thing
[08:23] <bingopajama> the program transformer
[08:23] <RichTUK> gnome session fallback isnt gnome3 ntr0py
[08:23] <phlak_user> znow: depends on what the gateway and dns servers in your setup are
[08:23] <calaveraFN> cheese not working (segmentation fault) in 11.04 64bits. Anyone else?
[08:23] <cousin_luigi> RichTUK: it's not?:O
[08:23] <cousin_luigi> RichTUK: what is it then?
[08:23] <ntr0py> RichTUK: gnome-session-fallback is the fallback mode of gnome3
[08:24] <znow> phlak_user: hmm, well, dont know where to see the setup?
[08:24] <douggle> okay i m getting an issue with wine audio anyone know how to solve this error fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 32 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels
[08:24] <dc5ala> bingopajama, what has vim to do with that?
[08:24] <cousin_luigi> does compiz use the alt-rightclick shortcut for anything?
[08:24] <phlak_user> znow: how are you trying to connect to the Internet?
[08:24] <bingopajama> Thats what i was hoping you could help me with
[08:24] <RichTUK> yes but it gives you the option of choosing gnome classic from the login menu
[08:24] <faryshta_> how do I know which is my wireless card?
[08:24] <phlak_user> faryshta_: sudo lshw -C network
[08:24] <znow> phlak_user: well its a vm, but my laptop is on WLAN
[08:25] <ntr0py> RichTUK: gnome classic is gnome3
[08:25] <bingopajama> i was editing a command line in 51-android.rules
[08:25] <jennyhot> hi all
[08:25] <theotherone> hello there. One program I was installing needed sdl, I didn;t really knew what it is, so I compiled it from sourde on their page. Now I have "sdl initialisation failed :No device" problem. Help :(
[08:25] <reisio> faryshta_: it's the broadcom
[08:25] <Noob> SunTsu: er... how i open...? =/
[08:25] <RichTUK> yes but its not the full gime3 look, its more of a gnome 2 look, like it was on the last ubuntu release
[08:25] <bingopajama> apparently transformer does not work in ubuntu without adding a command line
[08:25] <RichTUK> gnome3
[08:25] <faryshta_> phlak_user: How do I differentiate the ethernet from the wifi?
[08:26] <kountry_gentlema> If your upgrade to 11.10 did not finish property is there a way to redo?
[08:26] <faryshta_> reisio isn't that the ethernet? Just asking I am not sure.
[08:26] <ntr0py> RichTUK: yes i tried that and most of the old interface is missing in that mode
[08:26] <iceroot> kountry_gentlema: sudo apt-get install -f
[08:26] <jennyhot> hi
[08:26] <SunTsu> Noob: You might want to read something about linux basics....
[08:26] <Noob> yep.... =/
[08:26] <Noob> lol
[08:27] <phlak_user> faryshta_: generally ethX -> ethernet, wlanX->wifi
[08:27] <reisio> faryshta_: both are broadcom
[08:27] <cousin_luigi> RichTUK: ok, but it's not an unmaintained codebase
[08:27] <reisio> faryshta_: ethernet should use tg3, wireless ssb
[08:27] <Noob> SunTsu: ! i forgot to say.. i am on vissitors account... there is fine...
[08:27] <Noob> SunTsu: :X
[08:28] <bingopajama> Has anyone here tried to access their mp3 player on natty through transformer?
[08:28] <faryshta_> phlak_user: 'sudo lshw -C network | grep wlan' trows nothing :(
[08:28] <RichTUK> ntr0py: if you want the full gnome 2.32.1 then try here, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/i386/gnome-session/2.32.1-0ubuntu20
[08:28] <kountry_gentlema> iceroot: I just did that and it said that I had 0 updates.
[08:28] <phlak_user> faryshta_: just pastebin without grep
[08:28] <faryshta_> reisio: I think my wifi isn't plugged or something since I can't find it on the lspci.
[08:28] <ntr0py> RichTUK: thank you
[08:29] <zeerox> i have a internet setup with modem > switch > ubuntu server  and the ubuntu server is setup as my gateway, which 1 have 2 windows clients connecting to, i read the howtos on the ubuntu site for internet sharing....and here is my syslog http://dpaste.com/634164/
[08:29] <reisio> faryshta_: you have a hardware wifi on/off switch on the side?
[08:29] <zeerox> sorry if i reapeted as i just disconnected again wasnt sure if it went through
[08:29] <dc5ala> bingopajama, if you are not used to vim / don't know the basics you can use a simpler text editor like nano
[08:29] <zeerox> repeated
[08:29] <bingopajama> for wireless try Wicd
[08:29] <reisio> Math^: dunno, don't recognize that
[08:29] <znow> phlak_user: http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/1018143533c2.png/
[08:29] <iceroot> kountry_gentlema: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue" and what of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii"
[08:29] <bingopajama> hrm
[08:29] <iceroot> !paste | kountry_gentlema
[08:29] <glitch-mod> is it ok to purge pulseaudio?
[08:29] <reisio> Math^: should be easy to find out via the package manager, though
[08:29] <faryshta_> reisio: yes, its unresponsive. It keep showing off no matter how many times I push it.
[08:30] <bingopajama> ok so vim is a text editor?
[08:30] <reisio> faryshta_: well you do need the driver
[08:30] <iceroot> bingopajama: yes
[08:30] <iceroot> bingopajama: and not installed by default
[08:30] <bingopajama> oic
[08:30] <omega_123> i have a problem when i start thunderbird i got a error "Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."
[08:30] <bingopajama> yeah
[08:30] <bingopajama> i just installed it
[08:30] <Math^> reisio, yes true, but don't have Xubuntu installed atm :P
[08:30] <Math^> running Xfce tho
[08:31] <dc5ala> bingopajama, yes but one that requires "training" ;)
[08:31] <bingopajama> i believe i had 2 edit files running at the same time
[08:31] <bingopajama> hehe
[08:31] <reisio> Math^: ask #xubuntu?
[08:31] <zeerox> phlak_user: any suggestions?
[08:31] <reisio> faryshta_: sudo modprobe ssb ?
[08:31] <znow> phlak_user: ? :)
[08:32] <Noob> SunTsu:  access denied ¬¬
[08:32] <phlak_user> znow: i saw that; what do you want to do now?
[08:32] <mekwall> Ok, this is really pissing me off. Key-repeat when key is held down stops working all the time
[08:32] <kountry_gentlema> iceroot: Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[08:32] <bingopajama> Can you tell me what this line means? etc/udev/rules.d/51-android
[08:32] <znow> well, it doesnt get internet connection, thats the prob :p
[08:32] <mekwall> Works for a couple of minutes, but then I have to retick the damn setting.
[08:32] <mekwall> This is in 11.10 btw.
[08:32] <Noob> SunTsu: there is "permissão negada" permission(?) denied...
[08:32] <omega_123> pls help when i start the thunderbird mail i got an error"Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."
[08:32] <phlak_user> znow: can you pastebin the output of sudo route -n
[08:32] <faryshta_> reisio: phlak_user http://www.reddit.com/comments/lbtx3/c2relit here is the lspci and the lshw
[08:33] <reisio> bingopajama: it's probably instructions for what the system should do if an Android device is connected to your system
[08:33] <znow> phlak_user: sec
[08:33] <kountry_gentlema> iceroot: My problem is my webcam and DVD drive no longer work after the upgrade.
[08:33] <Math^> reisio, lol good idea... didn't think of a #xubuntu channel
[08:33] <bingopajama> ok
[08:33] <reisio> bingopajama: like potentially auto mounting, etc.
[08:33] <bingopajama> exactly
[08:33] <SunTsu> Noob: Sorry, please, read basics and learn them I won't take you by the hand
[08:33] <bingopajama> great
[08:33] <faryshta_> reisio: I did the modprobe ssb but nothing seems to change.
[08:34] <bingopajama>  i am trying to mount a samsung device on to my natty
[08:34] <Noob> SunTsu: ok
[08:34] <reisio> you said 6735b, not q
[08:34] <phlak_user> faryshta_: you dont seem to have a wireless card/interface -> is it disabled in BIOS?
[08:34] <faryshta_> phlak_user: nope, I just checked on my last reboot.
[08:34] <phlak_user> faryshta_: when was the last time it worked?
[08:34] <znow> phlak_user: http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/10181483b2a7.png/
[08:34] <faryshta_> two months ago.
[08:34] <omega_123> pls help when i start the thunderbird mail i got an error"Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."
[08:35] <faryshta_> phlak_user:  two months ago.
[08:35] <phlak_user> faryshta_: ?
[08:35] <zeerox> this is annoying disconnecting all the time :-[
[08:35] <phlak_user> znow: is 192.168.200.1 the gateway? if so, are you able to ping it?
[08:35] <faryshta_> phlak_user: the last time my wifi worked was two months ago. I though it was because I was using fedora then.
[08:36] <theotherone>  Hello. I'm using Ubuntu Natty. One program I compiled from source needed sdl to be compiled, I was kinda oblivious what does it do, so I compiled it from source. The program I wanted to compile started to see it, but now every programs which used sdl say "could not initialize sdl, no video device found" What to do?
[08:36] <znow> phlak_user: pings fine
[08:36] <phlak_user> znow: are you able to resolv using dig (dig www.yahoo.com)
[08:37] <znow> phlak_user: doesnt seem so :/
[08:37] <phlak_user> faryshta_: all i can say that is the system hasnt detected a wifi card
[08:37] <bingopajama> so i installed transformer under media/transformer but when i try to open it i get an error message saying "could not display media/transformer The file is of an unknown type
[08:37] <dc5ala> theotherone, you compiled SDL?
[08:37] <reisio> theotherone: what program
[08:37] <faryshta_> phlak_user: So its a hardware issue?
[08:37] <znow> phlak_user: no servers could be reached
[08:37] <phlak_user> znow: what is the output of that command and also dig @4.2.2.1 www.yahoo.com
[08:37] <phlak_user> faryshta_: could be
[08:37] <bingopajama> any thoughts as to why this is happening?
[08:37] <znow> phlak_user: sec
[08:37] <faryshta_> phlak_user: damn.
[08:38] <faryshta_> I will have to get a new wifi tomorrow.
[08:38] <seneca> hi guys
[08:38] <bingopajama> hi =)
[08:38] <phlak_user> faryshta_: what laptop is it?
[08:38] <gribouille> reisio, I'm back, on oneiric
[08:38] <Henry01> my desktop dont start any more. i have run the upgrade 11.04 to 11.10, and the desktop was exiting it self.
[08:39] <seneca> Anyone knows how ow to search in selectes files  a word, ex:i want search for preview word in all .js formatted files in a folder
[08:39] <faryshta_> compaq 6735b
[08:39] <faryshta_> phlak_user: compaq 6735b
[08:39] <jetien> Hi. Does somebody knows how NTFS works? I've rescued a disk image of a 500GG hard disk, of which about 100MB (not at the beginning) could not be retrieved. When I now mount the image there no files found at all. How is this even possible when only a fraction of the data is missing?
[08:39] <omega_123> pls help when i start the thunderbird mail i got an error"Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."
[08:39] <omega_123> wht to do
[08:39] <reisio> gribouille: ok
[08:40] <phlak_user> seneca: grep -r 'preview' /directory/to/be/searched/*.js
[08:40] <znow> phlak_user: one server could be reached, rest couldnt
[08:40] <gribouille> reisio, what should I do?
[08:40] <phlak_user> znow: ?
[08:40] <znow> phlak_user: it said 1 server found, but connection timed out
[08:40] <faryshta_> reisio: phlak_user let me reboot and recheck the bios.
[08:40] <reisio> gribouille: lsmod | egrep -i 'nvidia|nouveau'
[08:40] <manas_> Hi All, my mouse pad isn ot working ever since i upgraded
[08:40] <phlak_user> faryshta_: ok
[08:41] <reisio> manas_: touchpad
[08:41] <phlak_user> znow: what is the gateway? is it a PC or a dsl modem etc?
[08:41] <znow> a pc
[08:41] <gribouille> reisio, nouveau is loaded, but not nvidia
[08:42] <znow> im sitting on my laptop with Windows 7, that is connected to wifi. then I have the virtual machine with ubuntu which needs a static ip
[08:42] <phlak_user> znow: is it configured to forward requests from LAN etc? is NAT enabled on it?
[08:42] <manas_> yeah touchpad i mean :P
[08:42] <reisio> gribouille: sudo rmmod nouveau && sudo modprobe nvidia
[08:42] <znow> phlak_user: I got fine connection when the stuff was set to automatic, but when I wanted to change to a static ip, it fails
[08:42] <Henry01> how i can repair my desktop (unity). After the upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 thedesktopdont start
[08:42] <phlak_user> znow: ah! the VM is on windows 7?
[08:42] <znow> mm
[08:42] <crash1hd> Hey all if I have a 250gb hdd and I am going to install ubuntu onto it I was thinking 100mb efi / 40gb ntfs (for windows 7) / (250mb for /boot) and 8gb for swap (as I have 8gb of ram) the remaining for / but I was thinking of having a /home but have no idea how much do I give to / and how much do I give to /home?
[08:43] <gribouille> reisio, I can't remove nouveau, because it is used by other modules
[08:43] <phlak_user> znow: ok change it back to automatic; when it works, note down the gateway and DNS settings and the route and set it to be the same when you config it manually
[08:43] <omega_123> pls help guys when i start the thunderbird mail i got an error"Your Thunderbird profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible."
[08:43] <bingopajama> I Love Ubuntu!
[08:43] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  10 to 20gb is good for / rest for home
[08:43] <lighta> crash1hd, are you planning to share /home with windows ?
[08:43] <znow> phlak_user: thanks ill try that out
[08:44] <gribouille> reisio, the message is : Module nouveau is in use
[08:44] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  a /boot/ is normally not needed these days also.
[08:44] <crash1hd> lighta, no just like the idea of being able to backup the / and the /home seperate
[08:44] <bingopajama> thanks for your help reisio and dc5ala have a good one
[08:44] <phlak_user> omega_123: open a terminal and check if .mozilla-thunderbird exists
[08:44] <crash1hd> dr_willis, what was the logic?
[08:44] <Noob> SunTsu: men... its 5:44 morning here....
[08:44] <crash1hd> I have just always heard it was better
[08:44] <Noob> SunTsu: cya...
[08:44] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  old limits on lilo and other reasons
[08:45] <crash1hd> Also curious what the benifit is to having /home seperate?
[08:45] <Noob> SunTsu: tnx for all ^^
[08:45] <faryshta> phlak_user: reisio rechecked bios, it says wlan is activated.
[08:45] <lighta> k well I'll suggest a new partition for /home anyway and yeah 20 for / and rest for home should be good, that what I did
[08:45] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  easier to bqckup and upgrade later
[08:45] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  or clean installs a lot easier
[08:45] <gribouille> reisio, in the column "Used by" for nouveau, there is "1". what does it mean?
[08:45] <Henry01> how i can repair my desktop (unity). After the upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 thedesktopdont start. I have alredy tryed to restart the gdm by console but it doesnt change anything. And a restart dont work too
[08:46] <crash1hd> cause the are on seperate partitions
[08:46] <phlak_user> Henry01: can you select some other DE on login (after you enter username)
[08:46] <lighta> having home separate is like asking the benefit of separate partition crash1hd imo. personally I used to setup that on ntfs to share it with windows
[08:46] <dr_willis> omega_123:  thers no need to msg people your question.
[08:46] <phlak_user> omega_123: do what?
[08:47] <znow> phlak_user: the gateway should be 192.168.200.2 -_- that is set, now I can dig www.google.com
[08:47] <crash1hd> lighta, you would have /home on an ntfs partition?
[08:47] <phlak_user> znow: there you go :)
[08:47] <znow> phlak_user: and everything works, it seems, thank you sir!
[08:47] <phlak_user> znow: yw
[08:47] <dr_willis> you cant put /home on a tfs
[08:47] <Henry01> phlak_user, sorry I dont understand what you meaning with DE
[08:47] <lighta> I used too when I was using both windows and linux frequently
[08:47] <dr_willis> ntfs.
[08:47] <ojii> if i want to fsck a sd card (that i mounted via my android phone + disk mode + usb cable), do i have to unmount it first?
[08:47] <crash1hd> ahh didnt know that
[08:47] <omega_123> check .mozilla-thunderbird
[08:47] <omega_123> how to do it
[08:47] <phlak_user> Henry01: Desktop Environment - Session Manager
[08:47] <crash1hd> ok so why 20gb for / what goes on it?
[08:48] <Engonyr> how do I restart Unity while keeping my programs running? It's behaving a little weirdly.
[08:48] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  the system/os ;)
[08:48] <phlak_user> omega_123: oh; did you open a terminal? and type ls -la .mozilla-thunderbird
[08:48] <zeerox> i have a internet setup with modem > switch > ubuntu server, ubuntu server is setup as my gateway, which i have 2 windows clients connecting to, i read the howtos on the ubuntu site for internet sharing....and here is my syslog http://dpaste.com/634164/ everytime it does the renewal i get disconnected
[08:48] <maybe> q all
[08:48] <gribouille> reisio, are you still here?
[08:48] <crash1hd> dr_willis, right so if all data is on the /home or elsewhere and since ubuntu takes up less then 3gb of space would it be safe to assume that 10gb would be plenty?
[08:49] <lighta> well /proc, /mnt, /var etc; all thing you wont necessarly play with
[08:49] <Henry01> phlak_user, if i start up there are notihning only the console where i see that all services starts up
[08:49] <faryshta> How do I make sure that a wifi card is getting noticed by the bios?
[08:49] <maybe> hey, people
[08:49] <maybe> help me pls
[08:49] <Henry01> phlak_user, i cant select anything
[08:49] <rohdef> maybe: don't ask to ask just ask
[08:49] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  i suggest 20gb. i have filled up 10gb /  befor
[08:49] <crash1hd> dr_willis, ok thats why I am asking cause I am trying to figure out what would fill it?
[08:49] <cutiyar> i want upgrade from 10.04 to 11.10 , how to do it?
[08:49] <crash1hd> dr_willis, just programs?
[08:50] <phlak_user> Henry01: oic, you mean theres no graphical login screen at all?
[08:50] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  tmp, vms cache...
[08:50] <maybe> i'm new user Ubuntu
[08:50] <Henry01> phlak_user, yes
[08:50] <phlak_user> Henry01: what graphics hardware do you have?
[08:50] <emdub> anyone have a local ubuntu mirror?  i just updated my local mirror with oneiric stuff but am getting an error with some packages being missing when i try to do-release-upgrade... it's missing some main/binary-i386 files which seem to be on the mirror i slurped from but are not being mirrored for whatever reason when i run apt-mirror
[08:50] <maybe> i want install driver's for HP Printer
[08:50] <Henry01> phlak_user, I look, amoment
[08:51] <MeanEYE> Can anyone give me few pointers in optimizing Unity? Performance is really bad. Compiz use to work much better.
[08:51] <maybe> anton@ubuntu:~$ sh hplip-3.11.10.run
[08:51] <maybe> Creating directory hplip-3.11.10
[08:51] <maybe> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 61e645bd1d21e324dc34ad8c48f474e5 is different from 36f452c28c4295e675beb83bb3694c1f
[08:51] <maybe> anton@ubuntu:~$
[08:51] <FloodBot1> maybe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:51] <phlak_user> maybe: go to HP website and download HPLIP
[08:51] <lighta> crash1hd, most of them would be program yeah, really depend on your architecture, like if you wanna chroot or setup server some like todo /serv or /chroot while other will setup that as /home/chroot, idk if you get the point here
[08:51] <crash1hd> dr_willis, ahh had not thought of vms you mean virtual machines?
[08:51] <dr_willis> !info hplip
[08:51] <faryshta> How do I make sure that a wifi card is getting noticed by the bios?
[08:51] <maybe> i'm download this
[08:51] <faryshta> phlak_user: what is hplib?
[08:51] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  yes
[08:51] <crash1hd> dr_willis, ok :)
[08:51] <phlak_user> faryshta: huh?
[08:51] <dc5ala> maybe, looks like a broken download?
[08:52] <reisio> gribouille: okay you probably need to blacklist nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and reboot
[08:52] <dr_willis> maybe:  use the one in the repos. not that  .run version
[08:52] <horaz> hi all
[08:52] <crash1hd> dr_willis, this system is mostly for deluge as its my main server which is being connected to from the atv with xbmc
[08:52] <MeanEYE> Can anyone give me few pointers in optimizing Unity? Performance is really bad. Compiz use to work much better.
[08:52] <maybe> %)
[08:52] <reisio> MeanEYE: got a graphics card?
[08:53] <reisio> horaz: hi
[08:53] <MeanEYE> reisio: Yes, drivers are installed and up to date. It's not a powerful graphics card but it's far better than other two Intels I have and compiz works on them like it should be.
[08:53] <gribouille> reisio, ok, I'll try that
[08:53] <phlak_user> MeanEYE: in 11.10?
[08:53] <MeanEYE> phlak_user: Yes.
[08:53] <reisio> MeanEYE: intel? :p
[08:54] <phlak_user> MeanEYE: you could install gnome-tweak-tool and play around with the settings
[08:54] <MeanEYE> reisio: Comparing. I have problems with nVidia, intell work like they should.
[08:54] <reisio> yeah because they do a lot less
[08:54] <phlak_user> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[08:54] <MeanEYE> phlak_user: I have no intention of installing half of gnome3 with it. Install requirements are 80MB.
[08:54] <reisio> like when you lobotomize people their brain issues go away
[08:55] <faryshta> How do I make sure that a wifi card is getting noticed by the bios?
[08:55] <Henry01> phlak_user, My card is a Nvidea GF 7600GT with 256m ddr3
[08:55] <reisio> faryshta: see if it works on the livecd
[08:55] <phlak_user> Henry01: ok
[08:55] <vak> During upgrade the screen got locked but my usual password is not accepted to unlock, wth?
[08:55] <horaz> are there any guides on programs and procedures to create a perfect linux experience for visually impaired users? i heard of orca but more details and other options would be greatly appreciated. i'm not new to linux. tia
[08:55] <MeanEYE> So there's no advice you can give me?
[08:56] <MeanEYE> Great.
[08:56] <phlak_user> MeanEYE: sorry
[08:56] <Stava> Im on 11.04 and apt-get dist-upgrade wont give me 11.10, whats up with that? :o
[08:56] <reisio> horaz: are they impaired or blind?
[08:56] <horaz> reisio: not blind,
[08:56] <dr_willis> Stava:  thats not the right command to go to the next release
[08:57] <MeanEYE> I can't imagine what Canonical did so horribly bad that makes compiz require much stronger card than it use to only a release ago. Way to go!
[08:57] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[08:57] <dc5ala> Stava, dist-upgrade is not what you think it is
[08:57] <Stava> I see
[08:57] <Stava> i'll read those articles then, thanks
[08:57] <Henry01> phlak_user, should I try to start with onboard graphics?
[08:57] <phlak_user> MeanEYE: thats not right; it works just fine on my EeePC ;)
[08:57] <faryshta> reisio: it didn't worked. At least the switch still showed off without being able to change that by pressing it.
[08:57] <phlak_user> Henry01: thats a start, yes
[08:57] <dr_willis> MeanEYE:  i would guess its more of a driver issue/bug then compiz changeing
[08:57] <cutiyar> i want upgrade from 10.04 to 11.10 , how to do it?
[08:57] <reisio> faryshta: ...what switch?
[08:58] <emdub> anyone know why do-release-upgrade would fail looking for i386 packages when upgrading an amd64 installation?
[08:58] <dr_willis> !upgrade | cutiyar
[08:58] <faryshta> reisio: the on/off switch for the wifi.
[08:58] <alkisg> If I statically configure my network in /etc/network/interfaces, and then unplug the ethernet cable, and re-plug it, should /etc/network/if-up.d events be generated?
[08:58] <MeanEYE> phlak_user: Well, I thought it was a driver issue, but it's not. I tried 2 different nVidia drivers, I tried both 32bit and 64bit versions of ubuntu.
[08:59] <m4yer> faryshta: it should lshw and dmesg
[08:59] <reisio> faryshta: I'm talking about the live CD
[08:59] <MaMaGoody> hi, 11.10 bluetooth kb/mouse stop working.
[08:59] <faryshta> m4yer: which is the dmesg command?
[08:59] <m4yer> it should show up in lshw and dmesg ;)
[08:59] <cutiyar> dr_willis, i want from 10.04 to 11.10 not one version upgrade
[08:59] <crash1hd> dr_willis, lighta, Thankyou both :) installing now, have either of you used EFI? do you know if its worth it or not? I have a choice to have it or not
[08:59] <phlak_user> alkisg: yes
[08:59] <MeanEYE> dr_willis: I guess as much but that's nVidias driver. Perhaps installing the latest might help, or crash everything. It's a shame that weak Intel card on EeePC works 2x better than stupid nVidia.
[08:59] <faryshta> reisio: yes me too. When I was installing Oneric I tried to make the wifi work too.
[08:59] <alkisg> phlak_user: thank you, and any reason why they aren't? :-/
[09:00] <reisio> crash1hd: doesn't get you anything
[09:00] <dr_willis> cutiyar:  you do lts to lts or.. one version up at a time
[09:00] <Da|Mummy> should i bugreport that autoupdate failed installing flash downloader?
[09:00] <phlak_user> alkisg: cant say without looking at o/p of dmesg when it is happening
[09:00] <MeanEYE> Can someone direct me to nVidia divers ppa?
[09:00] <faryshta> !dmesg
[09:00] <cutiyar> dr_willis, its 10.04 lts upgrading to 11.10
[09:00] <alkisg> phlak_user: thanks, I'll look at dmesg
[09:01] <reisio> faryshta: did it work with an older version?
[09:01] <dr_willis> cutiyar:  so you go 11.04 then to 11.10
[09:01] <cutiyar> dr_willis, i have to upgrade to 10.10 >> 11.04>> 11.10?
[09:01] <phlak_user> cutiyar: or just burn a 11.10 CD and install
[09:01] <dr_willis> cutiyar:  tahs what i have been saying
[09:01] <crash1hd> reisio, what do you mean I thought it sped up boot time?
[09:01] <m4yer> faryshta: dmesg gives you _lots_ of informations ;) maybe its easier to find in lshw
[09:01] <cutiyar> dr_willis, its takes too long not possiblle
[09:01] <almoxarife> MeanEYE: ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[09:02] <dr_willis> cutiyar:  do without i guess
[09:02] <cutiyar> phlak_user, if i did burn 11.10 ?
[09:02] <MeanEYE> almoxarife: <3 thanks.
[09:02] <cutiyar> dr_willis, what u mean?
[09:02] <faryshta> m4yer: http://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/lbtx3/bcm5xxx_driver_for_ubuntu/c2relit here is lshw and lspci outcome.
[09:02] <gribouille2> reisio, I did what you told me to do and rebooted, but nouveau is still loaded
[09:03] <dr_willis> cutiyar:  you take the time  or  do a clean install
[09:03] <cutiyar> dr_willis, how is clean install?
[09:03] <dr_willis> format.. install
[09:03] <phlak_user> cutiyar: just boot from the cd you created and select install to hard disk
[09:03] <artzra> hi
[09:03] <artzra> i search the repository to wacom ???
[09:04] <cutiyar> phlak_user, but the current will be deleted
[09:04] <artzra> its install on 11.04
[09:04] <crash1hd> reisio, can you expand on that? I was under the impression that it speeds up boot time?
[09:04] <SunTsu> Does do-release-upgrade only do one release-upgrade at one time? Currently I'd like to use it to do a direct update from Maverick to Oneiric, but all it offers is natty
[09:04] <phlak_user> cutiyar: the normal thing to do is backup your documents (or home) folder to an external disk and then do a clean install
[09:04] <MeanEYE> SunTsu: Yes, only one release at a time.
[09:04] <m4yer> faryshta: I can only see wired their ...
[09:05] <phlak_user> SunTsu: thats the way it works
[09:05] <cutiyar> phlak_user, i know this method but i dont want this ,thanks.
[09:05] <ksinkar> how does one install apache modules in ubuntu?
[09:05] <almoxarife> artzra: what was the question?
[09:05] <SunTsu> MeanEYE, phlak_user: Thanks, damn, then this will be extra work
[09:05] <_trine> can anyone help please I have just updated to 11.10 and now I can only log in as root
[09:05] <faryshta> reisio: yes it worked on ubuntu 10.04 but stoped working 2 months ago.
[09:05] <phlak_user> faryshta: havent we been thro this earlier? your lshw and lspci *DO NOT* show wireless
[09:05] <gentoo_drummer> can i change the kernel config in ubuntu?
[09:05] <reisio> ksinkar: with the package manager
[09:05] <reisio> faryshta: with 10.04 still?
[09:05] <artzra> almoxarife, thx i have found on 11.04 a good install of the wacom
[09:05] <MeanEYE> SunTsu: Only LTS versions can update to next LTS and skip all the installations inbetween.
[09:05] <gentoo_drummer> can i change the kernel config on ubuntu?
[09:05] <ksinkar> reisio: thanks
[09:05] <phlak_user> _trine: what do you mean?
[09:06] <mc_teo> does oneiric force you to use unity?
[09:06] <reisio> crash1hd: boot time is pretty irrelevant, isn't it?
[09:06] <phlak_user> mc_teo: its the default DE
[09:06] <faryshta> phlak_user: yes I know. I am just trying to find a way to know if its a bios issue or a hardware issue.
[09:06] <gentoo_drummer> i want to remove kernel drivers
[09:06] <dc5ala> _trine, what happens when you try as other user?
[09:06] <phlak_user> faryshta: not by doing the same things over and over again
[09:06] <faryshta> reisio: no, it doesn't work with 10.04 anymore.
[09:06] <crash1hd> reisio, true but is that really the only advantage to it? So basically its not worth it then
[09:06] <gribouille2> reisio, I did what you told me to do and rebooted, but nouveau is still loaded
[09:06] <mc_teo> phlak_user: yeah, but can you use classic desktop instead
[09:07] <faryshta> phlak_user: do you know a way?
[09:07] <ntr0py> How can i install software in Kubuntu? all i get from muon is "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"
[09:07] <_trine> phlak_user, it will not let me log in with my usual user name either when just clicking on the user name on the screen or using other user
[09:07] <m4yer> faryshta: tried to find something in dmesg?
[09:07] <phlak_user> _trine: what do you mean by that? does it say authentication failure?
[09:07] <phlak_user> faryshta: no dude
[09:07] <_trine> phlak_user, yes it says the passwd is not correct
[09:07] <horaz> reisio: i found vinux, i'm trying it out now
[09:08] <phlak_user> _trine: did you change it?
[09:08] <faryshta> m4yer: dsmeg | grep wlan trow nothing. That is as far as I can think on how to search there.
[09:08] <ksinkar> reisio: but how do i identify the package?
[09:08] <phlak_user> _trine: login as root and change the password for normal user
[09:08] <_trine> phlak_user, I have even changed the passwd and it is still the same
[09:08] <Tengle> Ok, noob question. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10. It looks like it dosent have ubuntu classic anymore, and that I am stuck with Unity. Have I missed someting? I find Unity realy hard to navigate. Anyone know how to reinstall regular Gnome?
[09:08] <faryshta> phlak_user: :( no worries. Thanks dude.
[09:08] <phlak_user> faryshta: yw
[09:08] <reisio> crash1hd: "Q: What problem is the Forum trying to solve? A: Interest in EFI has been growing steadily, and the Promoter companies believe that broad adoption requires industry management and control." — http://www.uefi.org/about/
[09:08] <_trine> phlak_user, I have already tried that
[09:08] <SunTsu> Thanks for the clarification, then I'll try doing two updates. Though I guess that this will end up in a mess
[09:08] <phlak_user> _trine: press ctl-alt-f1 and try loggin in
[09:08] <faryshta> phlak_user: ¿?
[09:08] <m|kael> hello i tried to install gnome-shell but after its installed and i pick it at login screen all graphics are wierd and the fonts are unreadable, did i do anything wrong with the installation? i executed "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" did i miss anything?
[09:08] <reisio> crash1hd: notice the lack of real answer? :p
[09:09] <andyn> someone really messed up the bluetooth pairing in oneiric! the pairing password gets concatenated to the device name that is displayed on the remote device
[09:09] <phlak_user> faryshta: you're welcome
[09:09] <arp-> ?
[09:09] <artzra> i try to add repository of 11.04
[09:09] <m4yer> faryshta: Wireless / wireless / $corporation of wlan-card-vendor(e.g. Intel)
[09:09] <_trine> phlak_user, yes that worked but I am only in a terminal
[09:09] <arp-> m4v que locura pasa aca
[09:09] <faryshta> m4yer: let me try.
[09:10] <phlak_user> _trine: this means that the authentication failure isnt the problem
[09:10] <reisio> crash1hd: I don't suppose it will do you any harm to get the EFI model, though
[09:10] <Henry01> phlak_user, I have start, but it say since few minute "Booting system without full network configuration..." And nothin else he do
[09:10] <artzra> if this one is correct link ;;;sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa
[09:10] <gribouille2> in lsmod output, what what does it mean when there is a 1 in the "Used by" column?
[09:10] <phlak_user> Henry01: what did you do?
[09:11] <MaMaGoody> can I get back the classic desktop? I tried 2d
[09:11] <faryshta> m4yer: nope :(
[09:11] <Henry01> phlak_user, I have my graphicalcard tuned out and started the system, nothing else
[09:11] <MaMaGoody> or it's 2d unity now?
[09:11] <faryshta> m4yer: BCM showed the ethernet but nothing else.
[09:11] <nomoa> Hi, with the 11.10 unity window switcher : Alt-Tab switch between "applications group", if I have multiple terminal windows it's very annoying because Alt-Tab doesn't switch to the last terminal window but to another application
[09:11] <crash1hd> reisio, well thats just it the mobo I have has EFI on it and I have learned alot about EFI, I also have learned that it can mess up too lol so I am not sure how much of a fan I am
[09:11] <phlak_user> Henry01: oh you used the on-board graphics?
[09:11] <bazhang> !notunity | MaMaGoody
[09:11] <_trine> phlak_user, is there a solution
[09:11] <Henry01> phlak_user, yes
[09:11] <crash1hd> reisio, without EFI at least you have a better chance of it booting
[09:11] <reisio> crash1hd: it should boot :)
[09:12] <MaMaGoody> bazhang thanks!
[09:12] <crash1hd> reisio, I have no idea how to fix an EFI boot though
[09:12] <phlak_user> nomoa: its actually quite cool; if you have multiple terminal windows and hover over the icon during alt-tab; it will split and show you icons for the other terminal windows
[09:12] <crash1hd> reisio, like a non EFI boot hdd with ubuntu on it can be placed into another machine and still boot
[09:13] <crash1hd> reisio, with EFI it would have to be a machine that has EFI to make it boot
[09:13] <l0lwut> Has anyone had trouble logging in after the update? I get the splash window and then it just hangs on a black screen, I can start a window manager on screen :1 manually if I switch over to the terminal. tldr: I can't get to the login window on boot
[09:13] <phlak_user> _trine: without additional info, cant think of anything. did you try selecting a different Session?
[09:13] <m4yer> hm, faryshta, doesn't look that good ... I'm out of ideas ... (expect running through the whole ~1000 lines of dmesg and hoping, that you simply didn't come up with the right phrase to search)
[09:13] <Henry01> phlak_user, I can only witch to condole by presing ctrl + alt + F1 -F6
[09:13] <Henry01> console
[09:13] <_trine> phlak_user, the other thing it will not let me do is to change to clasic view either
[09:13] <phlak_user> Henry01: thats a start!
[09:13] <Da|Mummy> names slipping my mind, whats that better torrent app other then transmission?
[09:13] <phlak_user> Da|Mummy: deluge?
[09:13] <faryshta> m4yer: :P thanks
[09:14] <gribouille2> in lsmod output, what what does it mean when there is a 1 in the "Used by" column?
[09:14] <Da|Mummy> phlak_user, THX!
[09:14] <dr_willis> dozens of torrent apps
[09:14] <m4yer> faryshta: maybe lspci
[09:14] <nomoa> phlak_user, yes, but when you work on 2 terminals it's cool to do a single Alt-Tab to switch between this 2 terminals, how can I do with 11.10?
[09:14] <crash1hd> reisio, I guess what I mean by that is when I go to boot ubuntu that is installed on a drive but was installed with EFI and I try to boot right from the drive without EFI it says that it cant find any os
[09:15] <phlak_user> nomoa: i just told you; wait over the single terminal icon; it will change to show you two windows
[09:15] <zeerox> i have a internet setup with modem > switch > ubuntu server, ubuntu server is setup as my gateway, which i have 2 windows clients connecting to, i read the howtos on the ubuntu site for internet sharing....and here is my syslog http://dpaste.com/634164/ everytime it does the renewal i get disconnected
[09:15] <reisio> crash1hd: I'd suspect configuration error first
[09:15] <zeerox> i think its when it does the renewal anyway
[09:16] <phlak_user> zeerox: what ips are the windows clients getting?
[09:16] <disse> is it possible to encrypt the home folder at the desktop installation?
[09:16] <scarleo> Hi. I'm having trouble booting after upgrade to 11.10, it says at boot Waiting for network configuration, then Waiting 60 more seconds, then Booting without network configuration and it never gets passed that screen
[09:16] <crash1hd> reisio, ok well it seems that when I install ubuntu with EFI it creates an ubuntu boot menu choice in the bios and if I dont use it then I cant boot from it
[09:16] <zeerox> phlak_user: i assign the windows clients the ips
[09:16] <grifo74> one opinion about ubuntu 11.10?
[09:16] <faryshta> m4yer: tried that too. Didn't worked either :(
[09:16] <grifo74> give me
[09:16] <zeerox> phlak_user: got the gateway set to the ubuntu server
[09:16] <crash1hd> reisio, so if for some reason I downgrade my bios and loose the ubuntu boot choice then the OS no longer can boot
[09:16] <SunTsu> grifo74: I wish there was only one
[09:16] <m4yer> faryshta: then sorry... now im totally out of ideas ...
[09:16] <nomoa> phlak_user, ok thanks
[09:16] <phlak_user> zeerox: so what is disconnecting? the gateway?
[09:16] <reisio> crash1hd: if you don't use the boot option you can't boot?  That doesn't sound so odd, does it?
[09:17] <zeerox> yeah, just the past few days but i havnt changed nothing
[09:17] <pasqoo> can i not use unity while keeping gnome 3? i mean... i'd like to continue using gnome as it was before 11.04... with the bar on the top with the list of my opened apps etc
[09:17] <nomoa> phlak_user, just found Ctrl-Alt-Tab, it's actually what I want
[09:18] <phlak_user> nomoa: oh ok
[09:18] <crash1hd> reisio, no but if I install ubuntu without EFI then one doesnt need it to boot (I realize this is a moot point) but just seems like its another step in the process, which is why I was originally asking if it was worth it (and I guess trying to convince myself that its not)
[09:19] <almoxarife> zeerox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/840947 <-- that help?
[09:19] <zeerox> well whats disconnecting is the net, i think it keeps redoing the dhcp... cause i can still ping the server
[09:19] <reisio> crash1hd: ignoring the whole EFI domination monopoly thing
[09:19] <zeerox> almoxarife: thanks, ill have a look
[09:19] <reisio> crash1hd: I see it rather as Unix vs Linux
[09:19] <stimpie> After upgrading to 11.10 I have a realy weird issue. When I use the compiz grid plugin to put applications all locations work execpt for the 'top right' position. <ctrl><alt><kp9> puts the window in the top position. The keymappings in ccsm are correct. Any one else has this problem?
[09:19] <crash1hd> reisio, right :)
[09:19] <_trine> phlak_user, it wont even let me boot to a recovery console from the log in page
[09:19] <reisio> crash1hd: one is improved, but not in really amazing ways
[09:19] <_trine> phlak_user, using my own user name
[09:19] <reisio> crash1hd: if I were assembling a box, I'd go with coreboot
[09:20] <dc5ala> _trine, another idea: maybe go to your console and try a stop lightdm and start gdm and see if you have same problem there
[09:20] <crash1hd> reisio, and there for probably not worth using
[09:20] <phlak_user> zeerox: from your pastebin, it appears that you dont have two network cards (one for WAN and one for LAN) hence the flip-flop of IP addresses
[09:20] <phlak_user> _trine: hmm
[09:20] <faryshta> m4yer: it was a hardware issue.
[09:20] <reisio> crash1hd: well I guess if you really had a reason to use it, you'd know :p
[09:20] <crash1hd> reisio, true
[09:20] <faryshta> m4yer: reisio phlak_user i solved it by getting a usb wifi. My internal wifi card seems to be useless now.
[09:21] <phlak_user> faryshta: ok good for you!
[09:21] <manas_> HI All, my touchpad doesnt work after i upgraded to 11.10
[09:21] <reisio> faryshta: it was rather sounding that way
[09:22] <zeerox> phlak_user: i got 2 network cards in there tho :/
[09:22] <reisio> faryshta: doesn't have bluetooth, does it?
[09:22] <_trine> phlak_user, it does allow a guest session
[09:22] <phlak_user> _trine: you need to look at some logs to see whats going on
[09:22] <faryshta> reisio: I don't think it has bluetooth.
[09:22] <faryshta> reisio: how can I know for sure? :P
[09:22] <phlak_user> zeerox: can you pastebin the output of sudo ifconfig
[09:23] <reisio> faryshta: I don't think it does
[09:23] <phlak_user> faryshta: did it come in a box? the label should tell you
[09:24] <phlak_user> manas_: try toggling the touchpad disable button/key sequence
[09:25] <GijsK> How do I add a custom executable to the unity launcher in 11.10? I've googled but the general idea seems to be to use the 'Create Launcher' option from the desktop context menu, which no longer exists. :-\
[09:25] <Halabund> Hello!  I'd like to know where is the executable search path for root set on an Ubuntu system.  For a root account the PATH from /etc/environment is not being picked up.  I'd like to know where that path that root sees is set.  It's not /etc/profile, not /root/.profile ...
[09:25] <zeerox> phlak_user: http://pastebin.com/9j2t69Hg
[09:25] <faryshta> phlak_user: reisio the box didn't mentioned bluetooth so I think it doesn't have it. Well guys thank you very much.
[09:25] <faryshta> phlak_user: reisio I lost but I am happy because you were really helpful.
[09:26] <reisio> :)
[09:26] <phlak_user> faryshta: glad you worked things out
[09:26] <phlak_user> zeerox: what is the virbr0 interface doing?
[09:26] <madurax86> bluetooth can't send files it says "permission denied(13)"
[09:26] <madurax86> obex-client[5160]: Permission denied (13)
[09:27] <alkisg> phlak_user: I'm getting no messages in dmesg when I unplug/replug the cable, but I'm getting an entry from network manager in daemon.log about "unmanaged device found, state CONNECTED forced," and "info (eth0): carrier is now ON". Still the scripts in if-up.d don't get executed.
[09:28] <zeerox> phlak_user: i aint sure how that popped up, its not in my interfaces file
[09:28] <phlak_user> zeerox: also, pl confirm that you have the cables connected correctly (cable from modem to eth0 and cable from LAN switch/AP into eth1)
[09:28] <crash1hd> reisio, thanks for the advice :)
[09:28] <zeerox> yeah i do
[09:28] <phlak_user> zeerox: are both cables going into the same switch?
[09:29] <cousin_luigi> hello
[09:29] <zeerox> ohhhhhhh
[09:29] <phlak_user> ;)
[09:29] <zeerox> phlak_user: lol
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> is this a bug? open up system moniter, right click it, and you can't select any submenu, and causes launcher to not auto dissappear
[09:29] <kindofabuzz> 11.10 btw
[09:29] <phlak_user> zeerox: im proud of my crystal ball
[09:29] <zeerox> phlak_user: umm.... so what do i do with that virbr0
[09:29] <cousin_luigi> What is the cleanest way for adding startup programs on gnome-classic?
[09:30] <phlak_user> zeerox: looks like a vm is running; leave it
[09:30] <alkisg> phlak_user: network manager also mentions this bug about state CONNECTED forced: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/191889 - maybe the fix there broke if-up.d for devices managed by /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:30] <Halabund> I just installed texlive from the texlive website (not with the package manager).  How can I add it to the executable search path so that it's visible for *all* users, including root (i.e. it works with sudo and sudo -s)?
[09:30] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  short question:   after the upgrade my aptitude does not work anymore
[09:31] <zeerox> phlak_user: isnt a vm virtual machine?
[09:31] <phlak_user> zeerox: yes
[09:31] <howlymowly> when doing "sudo aptitude upgrade" it says "$Resolving dependencies...
[09:31] <howlymowly> $Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found. $Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver.
[09:31] <howlymowly> "
[09:31] <madurax86> bluetooth can't send files it says "permission denied(13)" i can recieve files
[09:31] <zeerox> phlak_user: why would that be running?
[09:31] <zeerox> sorry me noob
[09:31] <howlymowly> if I use the --full-resolver option it tries to remove like 500 packages from my system
[09:32] <stephni> still upgradind but if i leave my computer i come back it sleeps and the download stops why?
[09:32] <howlymowly> but the "normal" update via apt-get works fine
[09:32] <phlak_user> zeerox: no idea; you should ask whoever installed that server
[09:32] <zeerox> phlak_user: that was me :/
[09:33] <cjs> How do I suspend from the command line in Ubuntu 11.10? Or is that still broken the way it was in 11.04?
[09:33] <kindofabuzz> stephni, because when a computer sleeps, the network is shut down
[09:33] <andy> hi everyone
[09:33] <stephni> i want it to stop how do ido it
[09:33] <phlak_user> zeerox: maybe you can read this -> http://forums.admon.org/linux-networking/5783-how-can-i-disable-remove-virbr0.html
[09:33] <minnillo> hello
[09:33] <Andy80> hi all
[09:34] <cjs> stephni: It's in the power management setup of system settings.
[09:34] <minnillo> where is the release party again?
[09:34] <dc5ala> Halabund, you usually do such things in your shell startup file, any reason your not using the repo version?
[09:34] <stephni> ok
[09:34] <kindofabuzz> stephni, look in your power settings and tell it to never sleep
[09:34] <andy> I am trying to access the advanced settings tool and it keeps crashing
[09:34] <andy> it says user-theme is not installed
[09:34] <Andy80> can someone please explain me this "funny" joke: yesterday I upgraded to Oneiric and this morning my GRUB had the "Debian" theme (there is the Debian logo too!). what the...?!
[09:35] <andy> do you know how to go about installingthat?
[09:35] <Halabund> dc5ala, the repo version is texlive 2009, shamefully old.  It doesn't have packages I need to compile my stuff I've been writing on Windows with MiKTeX.  Latest is texlive 2011.  If I do it in my shell startup file, it's only going to be set for myself, not for any other users.
[09:35] <kindofabuzz> could someone try to reproduce this:on 11.10, open up system monitor, right click it, and you can't select any submenu, and causes launcher to not auto dissappear
[09:35] <Halabund> I think
[09:35] <reisio> Andy80: slapstick
[09:36] <Andy80> reisio: No packages found matching slapstick.
[09:36]  * phlak_user is installing 11.10 on a Lenovo Ideapad S10-3
[09:36]  * reisio is looking for a coffee machine
[09:37] <Halabund> dc5ala, is there a global place I can set the path so it'll work for all normal users and for root (i.e. with sudo and sudo -s)?
[09:37] <norbert_> many icons are missing
[09:37]  * phlak_user is pleased to note there is an option to "Upgrade" in the installer
[09:37] <zeerox> thanks for ya help phlak_user
[09:38] <phlak_user> zeerox: yw
[09:38] <kindofabuzz> weird, now it works
[09:38] <_trine> phlak_user, do I stop lightdm with /etc/init.d/lightdm stop  ??
[09:38] <phlak_user> _trine: whats lightdm?
[09:38] <madurax86> bluetooth can't send files it says "permission denied(13)" i can recieve files
[09:39] <phlak_user> madurax86: remote device might not be accepting?
[09:39] <fowl> hello all. i just installed windows and attempted to do the boot-repair stuff, but it only set up windows in the grub menu. how do i fully restore the old grub conf (my partition layout hasnt changed at all, so it should be fine)
[09:39] <_trine> phlak_user, sorry I thought it was you when it fact it was dc5ala who mentioned that
[09:39] <madurax86> phlak_user: its an android, i check it with another installation of 10.04 paired and it worked
[09:39] <phlak_user> _trine: np
[09:39] <noturbusiness> sup
[09:40] <Raydiation> are there gnome-shell spins available?
[09:40] <phlak_user> madurax86: are you sending thro cli?
[09:40] <_trine> dc5ala, it looks like lightdm could be the problem
[09:40] <dc5ala> Halabund, where did you install it?
[09:40] <madurax86> phlak_user: no gnome3's interface, before i used xfce's but nothing works
[09:40] <dc5ala> _trine, gdm is working then?
[09:40] <Henry01> phlak_user, I tryed again with graphical card and it shows a loading screen with Ubuntu 11.04 with black background and Booting system without full network configuration, but I dont know what I can do. Should I try to reinstall the gdm?
[09:41] <phlak_user> Henry01: 11.04?
[09:41] <Henry01> phlak_user, It does only show that, and not more
[09:41] <andy> has anyone received this error before?
[09:41] <Halabund> dc5ala, default location, somewhere inside /usr/local/texlive, it has its own bin directory there and told me to add it to the path.  I added it to /etc/environment, which makes it work for me as a user.  But I need to make it work for root so it can update and install latex packages
[09:41] <andy> Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed
[09:41] <_trine> dc5ala, I dont know ,, do I stop lightdm with /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[09:41] <elacheche_anis> hey I have a big problem with LightDM
[09:41] <_trine> dc5ala, I see problems in dmesg with lightdm
[09:42] <Henry01> phlak_user, yes, but is upgradet to 11.10 but i dont know if it is finishd updatet because desktop was died
[09:42] <phlak_user> Henry01: then it probably didnt go through
[09:42] <dc5ala> Halabund, you could use the global bashrc in /etc for that, e.g. a line like PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/texlive/bin
[09:42] <phlak_user> Henry01: dead due to power outage?
[09:42] <_trine> elacheche_anis, I also seem to be having problems with lightdm
[09:43] <dc5ala> _trine, and have you tried to start gdm instead then to see if it has same problems?
[09:43] <Henry01> phlak_user, The desktop was at one time only black
[09:43] <_trine> dc5ala, I am not sure how to do that
[09:44] <Henry01> phlak_user, I havent change any setting since that
[09:44] <phlak_user> Henry01: did it ever boot after that?
[09:45] <dc5ala> _trine, after your did a "sudo stop lightdm" you can try "sudo start gdm" (haven't tried that but gdm is still on my system, see "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm")
[09:45] <Halabund> dc5ala, there's not /etc/bashrc, should I create it?  Or use /etc/.profile?  or /root/.profile ?  The reason I didn't want to use those is that those files are nto where the path is set for root.  I was wondering where exactly is the path set for root (as it's different from PATH for my user).  Also I don't understand why 'sudo echo $PATH' gives the PATH from /etc/environment, which has texlive; while 'sudo tlmgr' (the texlive package manager) doe
[09:45] <Halabund> rk.  There's something I really don't understand.  Also, 'sudo -s', then 'echo $PATH' gives a different path again from 'sudo echo $PATH'
[09:46] <Henry01> phlak_user, before i upgraded it had ever boot with the typical "pink" color
[09:46] <dc5ala> Halabund, i have a /etc/bash.bashrc, adding a path there is working for me
[09:46] <Halabund> dc5ala, oh, I have that one, will try
[09:47] <Henry01> phlak_user, it was how the screenshots, what at the ubuntu page
[09:47] <phlak_user> Henry01: from the liveCD?
[09:47] <dc5ala> Halabund, also have in mind sudo -i to initialize environment properly
[09:48] <phlak_user> Halabund: why would you need to run tex as root?
[09:48] <Halabund> phlak_user, to use the texlive package manager
[09:48] <phlak_user> Halabund: oh ok
[09:49] <Henry01> phlak_user, The system is installed since 6 months or longer and there cam yesterday a windows that asked, if i like to ugrade, I have done it with this graphical
[09:49] <farciarz84> pypy is not working under ubuntu 11.10 and this is your fault
[09:49] <phlak_user> Henry01: i understand; but I have a feeling that the upgrade did not go through
[09:50] <dhruvasagar> Hi guys, I am just upgrading to 11.10, it gives me option between gdm & lightdm, I know gdm, but I want to know what's your recommendations !?
[09:50] <Halabund> dc5ala, oh, I didn't know about that.  I have never used linux as a desktop long-term, now I'm giving it a go again, and setting up the essentials (e.g. working tex with all the packages I have used on Windows)
[09:50] <phlak_user> dhruvasagar: someone else seems to have issues with lightdm
[09:51] <dhruvasagar> phlak_user: ok, is phlak still alive ?
[09:51] <MonkeyDust>  
[09:51] <phlak_user> dhruvasagar: no idea; was many moons ago ;)
[09:52] <dhruvasagar> phlak_user: yea...many moons indeed :)
[09:52] <zeerox> phlak_user: tried that site u told me about removing vm.... but yum aint installed... how do i go about changing the apt-get location so i can get this yum program?
[09:52] <andy> has anyone else had problekms loading gnome-tweek-tool? I cant seem toopen it as it says extention.user-theme is not installed
[09:52] <dc5ala> Halabund, don't know the reason why TeX is in 2009 version but it probably is a good one ;)
[09:52] <dhruvasagar> phlak_user: backtrack killed it I suppose
[09:52] <Henry01> phlak_user, This is bad. The system simply goes neuzuinstalieren not so simple, it would take months to set up against it
[09:52] <Robert-o> hello i have upgrade kubuntu and now i have a error
[09:52] <Robert-o> in kmail
[09:52] <Robert-o> i can not start it
[09:52] <Robert-o> kmail2(6581)/libakonadi Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult: Failed SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult "Unbekannter Fehler. (Fehler beim Einholen der Ressourcen-Sammlung.)"
[09:52] <FloodBot1> Robert-o: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:53] <Henry01> neuzuinstalieren= setting up new
[09:53] <phlak_user> zeerox: dont follow it blindly; yum is for fedora/redhat/centos like systems; just follow the logic
[09:53] <emdub> anyone know why do-release-upgrade would fail looking for i386 packages when upgrading an amd64 installation?
[09:53] <zeerox> okie thankyou
[09:53] <dhruvasagar> Robert-o: can you translate it into english ? it's in German from what I can tell
[09:53] <andy> has anyone else had problekms loading gnome-tweek-tool? I cant seem toopen it as it says extention.user-theme is not installed
[09:53] <phlak_user> Henry01: why did you click on upgrade?
[09:53] <Robert-o> kmail2 (6581) / libakonadi Akonadi:: special collection request job:: slot Result: Failed special collection request job:: slot result. "unknown error (error in obtaining the resource collection.)"
[09:54] <Halabund> dc5ala, it lacks packages I've been using.  I don't want to manually install packages, it's a lot of trouble.  If you google, you'll see that many people complain about the old texlive in ubuntu and suggest installing the latest one.  sudo -i does the job, thanks!  I won't bother adding it to the path just for root :)
[09:54] <phlak_user> andy: i seem to be able to open it without issues
[09:55] <Henry01> phlak_user, I have read, that there are fixes and that it is stable
[09:55] <andy> phlask_user it says one of my extentions is not installed and it will not load
[09:55] <dc5ala> Halabund, no problem but take care of "return" statements there, it may end that script prematurely so add your path somewhere before any returns
[09:56] <Henry01> phlak_user, I using ubuntu since 2 or 3 years so I thoght it makes no proplems
[09:56] <vak> My screen during update got locked and the password is not accepted for some reason -- why?
[09:57] <agronholm> hi, how do I install new themes for Oneiric? there are a lot of themes in /usr/share/themes, but I can only choose from four alternatives in the appearance settings
[09:57] <agronholm> tried unzipping the RadianceBlue GTK3 theme there but it does not appear in the list
[09:58] <idefix> ! format
[09:58] <andy> phlak_user, this is the error i am receiving http://pastebin.com/hiEVjT74
[09:58] <conntrack> Which IDS checks for tcp hijacking?
[09:58] <phlak_user> Henry01: I know; but upgrading on the day or release is a little risky on a production system
[09:58] <Operaist2> where should i go to complain about 11.10?
[09:58] <idefix> !fstba
[09:58] <idefix> !fstab
[09:59] <Henry01> phlak_user, it is a only privacy system but I have changed so much to my costum
[09:59] <phlak_user> andy: where did you install it from?
[09:59] <conntrack> Over?
[09:59] <phlak_user> Henry01:  can you run the installer again using a livecd?
[09:59] <dc5ala> Operaist2, want Shuttleworths phone number?
[09:59] <phlak_user> Operaist2: complain as in rant or have you found a bug?
[10:00] <andy> phlak_user, the extemtions or the application? I installed the application from ubuntu package manager
[10:00] <Henry01> phlak_user, what version? 11.04 or 11.10? I have that system alredy upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04. I must download the new disk first
[10:00] <vibhav_> Am I still muted?
[10:00] <phlak_user> Henry01: 11.10
[10:00] <Henry01> ok, I try
[10:01] <Henry01> phlak_user, should I save first all data on a external hdd?
[10:01] <phlak_user> Henry01: that would save you a lot of heartbreak
[10:01] <trexy> hi
[10:02] <zimb0> where are the settings to customice the panel in unity? i'm trying to change the mail settings
[10:02] <Henry01> phlak_user, ok, i am than back in 2 hours ore more
[10:02] <agronholm> do the "reboot" and "shutdown" operations work for anybody here? they just log me off
[10:02] <zimb0> customise
[10:02] <trexy> just upgraded to Oneiric Ocelot and my keyboard mappings have gone askew
[10:02] <agronholm> and in the login screen they do absolutely nothing
[10:02] <trexy> is there some docs to help with fixing keyboard mappings?
[10:03] <phlak_user> trexy: is it language specific or custom?
[10:03] <Operaist2> i just want to know why updating to 11.10 causes half my stuff to not work, mess up my fonts, mess up my windows and unity is still a pile of fecal matter
[10:03] <trexy> my keyboard is English UK
[10:03] <trexy> - and should be straightforward
[10:03] <trexy> but the mapping of the @ key is is b0rked
[10:04] <agronholm> Operaist2: I wiped my entire machine and did a clean install and it works somewhat better now
[10:04] <zimb0> i removed evolution and changed the preferred email client to thunderbird, but it has had no effect on the panel
[10:04] <phlak_user> trexy: in dash home search for keyboard, select keyboard layout and add your layout to that screen
[10:04] <dc5ala> agronholm, had same problem yesterday, not sure for today ;)
[10:04] <Ali_> hi , anyone exprienced Gnome-Shell ? does it worth a try ?
[10:05] <trexy> hmm - I did that but english UK is showing Q instead of @
[10:05] <agronholm> *is it worth a try
[10:05] <raph_ael> hi, since upgrade to oneiric, ^F spwans a shell, which was not the case before, and is not very handy, any tips ? thanks
[10:05] <trexy> I'm also using synergy - however directly plugging in my keyboard also failed
[10:06] <trexy> (wonders why keyboard settings were not preserved in upgrade)
[10:06] <eduardoo> Do you know some tool for watching logs via web ?
[10:06] <babai> any idea when unity 4.24 sru0 will be available in the repos?
[10:06] <Demicolon9> Hi all! I was wondering: What handles the loading bar/image after the Grub2 selection screen and before the login screen?
[10:06] <agronholm> eduardoo: tried webmin yet?
[10:07] <Demicolon9> I can google the rest from there
[10:07] <dc5ala> raph_ael, checked keyboard shortcuts in system settings -> keyboard?
[10:07] <phlak_user> trexy: try English (UK,Extended Winkeys), the layout picture seems to show @ with q
[10:07] <fhtagn> howdy all! getting Failed to fetch http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gmp4/libgmp3c2_4.3.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1_i386.deb 403  Forbidden
[10:07] <andy> what causes this issue please? Settings schema 'org.gnome.shell.extensions.user-theme' is not installed
[10:07] <fhtagn> when trying to upgrade to 11.10 (from 11.04)
[10:07] <fhtagn> seems to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/873757
[10:07] <dc5ala> raph_ael, for me it's on ctrl+alt+t
[10:07] <phlak_user> Demicolon9: Plymouth?
[10:08] <fhtagn> can't I just change the repository?
[10:08] <Demicolon9> phlak_user, Thanks a ton!
[10:08] <trexy> hmm - strange - it is working now
[10:08] <trexy> although I did a full reboot
[10:08] <phlak_user> trexy: my magic wand did it :)
[10:09] <trexy> :-)
[10:09] <trexy> thanks
[10:09] <phlak_user> fhtagn: select a different mirror
[10:09] <eduardoo> agronholm: thanks I'll try
[10:09] <raph_ael> dc5ala: i don't use unity, i use awesome, but awesome only accepts keybindings with meta key, so it's coming from elsewhere, but i don't know where
[10:09] <raph_ael> dc5ala: and thanks for helping
[10:10] <fhtagn> phlak_user: yes, but where? /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:10] <phlak_user> fhtagn: how did you launch the upgrade?
[10:10] <scarleo> Hi, I can't boot unless I remove /var/run/dbus/pid every time, is there a fix to this problem?
[10:10] <ljsoftnet> fhtagn what do you mean by awesome?
[10:10] <scarleo> it's in Oneiric
[10:11]  * phlak_user finished installing - rebooting now
[10:11] <fhtagn> phlak_user: lazy way: system, administration, update manager
[10:11] <fhtagn> ljsoftnet: raph_ael said that
[10:11] <phlak_user> fhtagn: ok; so you could follow that way and go to software sources if you like
[10:11] <fhtagn> oh kk. Ty
[10:12] <fhtagn> forgot there was a settings there..
[10:12] <raph_ael> ljsoftnet: http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[10:12] <raph_ael> a tiling wm
[10:13] <fhtagn> using Main Server now
[10:14] <tokam> can I downgrade to ubuntu 11.4?
[10:14] <TehDGM> if you reinstall, yes
[10:15] <rcmaehl> How do I get my backlight to stop flickering, It's not the backlight b/c it only starts when I try to adjust the brightness and then it's like something is randomly and rapidly changing the brightness when I try to change it
[10:15] <joshua__> Hey guys, I need some assistance.. I'm trying to completely wipe my hard drive from Ubuntu.  (Both Ubuntu, and my faulty install of windows 7)  Then reinstall from the disk I have made.  What's the easiest way to do this?
[10:15] <sandra_> G'day my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[10:15] <sandra_> I trust everyone's day is off to a good start :-)
[10:15] <rcmaehl> joshua__: DBAN probably
[10:16] <rcmaehl> sandra_: what day off
[10:16] <joshua__> Software center?
[10:16] <rcmaehl> joshua__: it's an iso for a live cd
[10:16] <fhtagn> rcmaehl: isn't DBAN overkill..?
[10:17] <greyback> joshua__, if you boot from the ubuntu cd, the installer should have an option to let you destroy everything on the hard drive, then install
[10:17] <joshua__> I can't figure out how to run that cd from Ubuntu.
[10:17] <tokam> i was used to gnome 2
[10:17] <rcmaehl> fhtagn: depends on the settings, you can use dban for just one wipe over
[10:17] <greyback> joshua__, you need to reboot your computer with the CD in
[10:17] <joshua__> I tried that.
[10:17] <zaapiel> occupy #ubuntu until unity isn't the default anymore
[10:17] <sandra_> rcmaehl, well hello there ...but read what I said a bit more carefully :-)
[10:17] <rcmaehl> did you try a live usb?
[10:17] <greyback> joshua__, and what happened (or didn't happen)?
[10:18] <joshua__> It jumps straight to the screen that asks whether I want to use windows 7 or Ubuntu, and then when you pick, it starts trying to boot the os.
[10:18] <rcmaehl> sandra_: oh XD
[10:18] <sandra_> rcmaehl, but even if your working I trust your day is off to a good start too :-)
[10:18] <rcmaehl> It is
[10:18] <fhtagn> rcmaehl: nice, I always thought it was only as a last measure for maximum security.. nvm me, carry on then=)
[10:18] <joshua__> The only usb I have at the moment is an external hard drive.. could I use that?
[10:18] <rigved> joshua__: /var/cache/apt/archives/ <-- this folder contains all the packages that you have downloaded. backup this folder. then, after you reinstall, copy paste all the packages from your backed-up folder to the new /var/cache/apt/archives/ folder. Then, when you install applications, you will not need to download the packages again as they are already available in this folder.
[10:19] <fhtagn> trying to upgrade, "The server may be overloaded". Surprise
[10:19] <rcmaehl> fhtagn: O_O
[10:19] <rigved> joshua__: you need to set the BIOS to boot from the CD and not the hard disk.
[10:19] <greyback> joshua__, so it didn't boot from the CD at all?
[10:19] <joshua__> Okay.  So now I just need to figure out how to get to the Bios... I haven't been able to ever since I set up the dual boot.
[10:20] <joshua__> No, not at all.
[10:20] <agronholm> who uses CDs for this stuff in this day and age?
[10:20] <hje841> how do you downgrade gcc in natty?
[10:20] <hje841> I need 4.3.4
[10:20] <joshua__> technically a dvd.. It should still work, shouldn't it?
[10:20] <TehDGM> agronholm: the music industry seems to be fond of it. i end up ripping them
[10:20] <greyback> joshua__, yeah, you need to get booting from CD working. You'll need that to do the Ubuntu install anyway
[10:20] <agronholm> yeah but I mean, for installing ubuntu
[10:20] <rcmaehl> agronholm: I had to
[10:21] <rcmaehl> agronholm: when I didn't have a bootable usb
[10:21] <greyback> joshua__, yes it should, as long as it burned correctly
[10:21] <fhtagn> hje841: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4152283/how-to-use-2-differents-versions-of-gcc-on-linux-ubuntu-and-force-make-to-use-one yay?
[10:21] <agronholm> your system cannot boot from a thumbdrive?
[10:21] <joshua__> I was thinking maybe there was a way to wipe everything from the terminal, then I could reboot, and there would be no os to interfere with booting from the cd?
[10:21] <scarleo> Hi, I can't boot Oneiric unless I remove /var/run/dbus/pid every time, is there a more permanent fix to this problem?
[10:21] <greyback> agronholm: mac users! :)
[10:21] <rcmaehl> agronholm: no I had no flash drive that the system would correctly boot from
[10:21] <scarleo> It complains at boot about not finding network configuration
[10:22] <greyback> joshua__, the OSes do not interfere with CD boot
[10:22] <fhtagn> joshua__: as long as the BIOS picks up the optical drive, don't worry about the OS
[10:22] <hje841> fhtagn: but where do I get the older version?
[10:22] <greyback> joshua__, I would concentrate on getting the DVD to boot
[10:22] <rcmaehl> There IS a way to wipe EVERYTHING from terminal
[10:22] <skulltip> was 11.10 just released?
[10:22] <joshua__> Okay.  How would I do that?
[10:22] <rcmaehl> BUT it's HIGHLY NOT Recommended
[10:23] <zimb0> i think i'm about to slip a mouse pad into my laptop bag, i'm at an airport wifi hotspot
[10:23] <greyback> joshua__, first off, please check that you didn't burn a DVD which contains just one ISO file
[10:23] <pimperle> if i type "sudo -i" to spawn a root shell and hit ctrl-d on the password prompt, another password prompt pops up, which doesn't accept my user password. which password is it asking for?
[10:23] <skulltip> i've become lost in the distros
[10:23] <s1> scarleo: see comment #25 in this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441
[10:23] <rcmaehl> skulltip: yes 11.10 is just out
[10:23] <Thomas___> Hello. I have multi-homed system where eth0 is lan and eth1 is wan. There is internet connectivity through both, but via different   routes. When the system boots, I cannot connect to e.g. apache on the WAN interface dispite the fact it listens on *.80. If I   bring down eth0 I can, however. After bringing eth0 back up I can still access apache. There are no IPTables rules active (Policy:   accept). "What is wrong?". Where do I start 
[10:24] <joshua__> I did that.  It's a bunch of files.
[10:24] <skulltip> ahh yayy
[10:24] <Pin1> penis.
[10:24] <joshua__> And if all else fails, I have a windows 7 disk I could install if the Ubuntu disk doesn't work.
[10:24] <fhtagn> hje841: isn't it possible to apt-get a specific gcc?
[10:24] <TehDGM> or you could order a free disc
[10:24] <joshua__> At least long enough to download and burn another copy.
[10:24] <Pin1> sudo apt-get penis
[10:24] <rcmaehl> Pin1: Really, you're that immature...
[10:24] <eduardoo> agronholm: I'm looking rather for something available under ubuntu.
[10:24] <TehDGM> rcmaehl: ignore 'm
[10:24] <rcmaehl> Thank you oCean
[10:25] <hje841> fhtagn: no idea
[10:25] <greyback> joshua__, cool. You on PC right? Then watch your BIOS messages to see if there's a keystroke you can press to get a boot menu
[10:25] <agronholm> eduardoo: they have a .deb available
[10:25] <tbf> oneiric's new tab switch looks slick. but any chance to make it iterate the current workspace only?
[10:25] <vak> My screen got locked during update and the password is not accepted for some reason -- why? (Text console works fine. /etc/issue ==> 11.10 already)
[10:25] <sandra_> I was wondering if one of my fellow Ubuntu inmates could give me a hand and tell me how can I get the right click folder option "Open as Administrator " to work on Oneiric? That wonderful option works for me under Natty by simply selecting "nautilus-gksu" and then once selected logging out and back in and the "Open as Administrator" option is there, but not under Oneiric. Any ideas ? thanks.
[10:25] <joshua__> There was one before I set up the dual boot, but I've been looking for it ever since, and can't find one.
[10:25] <Pin> sudo apt-get vagina
[10:25] <greyback> joshua__, it won't go away. Read http://superuser.com/questions/26649/configuring-bios-to-boot-from-disk-drive-before-hard-drive#26652
[10:25] <joshua__> I've tried holding F2, F4, F8, and F12, And I think Esc too
[10:25] <tbf> by "randomly" inserting apps from other workspaces, workspaces become quite useless
[10:26] <g0bl1n> after 11.10 upgrade, postgresql related, anyone having this issue ? http://pastebin.com/uqG11Lxq
[10:26] <head_victim> So anyone had much luck running 3d unity under virtualbox?
[10:26] <scarleo> s1, Great, thanks I'll try it
[10:26] <skulltip> <same old dumb question with each release, is 11.10 good?
[10:26] <agronholm> g0bl1n: go adjust your shmmax
[10:26] <rcmaehl> head_victim: I did once but I think that was just pure luck
[10:26] <head_victim> All the windows I have keep disappearing and flickering about
[10:26] <agronholm> g0bl1n: seems like the upgrade replaced some settings
[10:26] <head_victim> With the guest additions installed
[10:27] <greyback> joshua__, usually the boot messages tell you what's the magic key. Watch carefully. F2, F11, Esc or Del are all possible anyway
[10:27] <joshua__> Oh, I'm having an error with permissions, that just started a few minutes ago when I was trying to figure out how to use Gparted.
[10:27] <joshua__> Any idea what I might've done? =/
[10:27] <rcmaehl> greyback: it's f1 on my netbook
[10:27] <fhtagn> hj http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc-4.3
[10:27] <usuario> apple
[10:27] <rigved> joshua__: boot into Windows and put the Ubuntu CD in. Then, after the program starts, it will ask you what you want to do. Select the option that lets you reboot the computer and install Ubuntu.
[10:28] <greyback> joshua__, gparted will not touch the partition you have booted from.
[10:28] <joshua__> My windows installation isn't working.
[10:28] <rcmaehl> Oh, bye guys, heading to work
[10:28] <Trashi> hi guys. im missing skype in the 11.10 repository ... did they remove it from?
[10:28] <daswandi> assalamualaikum
[10:28] <joshua__> After an update, I started getting the blue screen crash... That's why I'm trying to wipe it.
[10:28] <sandra_> rcmaehl, tc and have a good day at work.
[10:28] <s1> wa alykum assalam.
[10:28] <fhtagn> hje841: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc-4.3 so only lucid?
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Trashi: skype is now property of MS
[10:28] <sattu94> unless it's running from a live CD.
[10:28] <rcmaehl> sandra_: thanks
[10:28] <joshua__> I have no clue what else to try... lol
[10:28] <rcmaehl> quit
[10:28] <rcmaehl> ><
[10:28] <rigved> joshua__: the CD will handle changing the BIOS boot order and let the Ubuntu CD start before any installed OS.
[10:28] <rigved> joshua__: ok.
[10:29] <skulltip> going to upgrade and annoyingly let you know how good it is :)
[10:29] <Mmike> if unity can be disabled, then it's good :)
[10:29] <joshua__> I'll try it again, but I'm 90% sure that as soon as I click enter on the windows 7 option, I'll get a blue screen crash.
[10:29] <rigved> joshua__: do you want to wipe out Windows 7 AND Ubuntu or do you want to wipe out Windows 7 only?
[10:29] <Mmike> that thing is usability-productivity killer :)
[10:29] <hje841> fhtagn: I might just compile it from source
[10:29] <greyback> joshua__, get the cd to boot. You need it either way
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Mmike: then don't use it
[10:29] <Trashi> MonkeyDust: what do you mean exactly? ms? that big bad compancy with "soft" at the end?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Trashi: the same
[10:29] <agronholm> yes
[10:30] <joshua__> I want to wipe them both, and then reinstall ONLY Ubuntu (The disk I made has 11.10), and then later install Windows 7 into a VM.
[10:30] <Trashi> MonkeyDust: do you know a website or article to read more?
[10:30] <rigved> joshua__: ok. give it a try: boot the Ubuntu CD from Windows and let the CD handle rebooting etc.
[10:30] <sandra_> joshua, are you currently running a bootable usb or cd image of Ubuntu ?
[10:31] <joshua__> Okay
[10:31] <joshua__> Brb
[10:31] <Mmike> MonkeyDust, I am not, I just have to rant about it, hope you don't mind :)
[10:31] <Luci4n0> hello all
[10:31] <GeoffSK> looking for advice on bluetooth/wacom tablet config (including just give up)
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Trashi: google "skype micro***"
[10:32] <jmp_> i tried to erase my flash-disk from vmware running ubuntu 11.10 , job done, but it crashed and loged out to the terminal!!!, is it a vmware bug? or ubuntu bug?
[10:32] <g0bl1n> agronholm, I have no shmmax entrance in /etc/sysctl.conf, should I have ?
[10:32] <sandra_> joshua, just select the use entire hard drive option under Ubuntu install options list.
[10:32] <agronholm> g0bl1n: you should add one
[10:32] <ntr0py> How can i change subpixel rendering/hinting in Gnome3?
[10:32] <g0bl1n> agronholm, ok
[10:32] <sandra_> I was wondering if one of my fellow Ubuntu inmates could give me a hand and tell me how can I get the right click folder option "Open as Administrator " to work on Oneiric? That wonderful option works for me under Natty by simply selecting "nautilus-gksu" and then once selected logging out and back in and the "Open as Administrator" option is there, but not under Oneiric. Any ideas ? thanks.
[10:33] <FreeWilly> not gona ask for the best
[10:33] <g0bl1n> agronholm, weird, just got that after the pg_clusterupgrade from 8.4 to 9.1
[10:33] <FreeWilly> but gona ask for suggestions for the most friendly to use ftp server software for ubuntu server, which is freeware
[10:34] <jmp_> agronholm: any idea about my problem?
[10:34] <hexacode> how do i check what time it is from my terminal?
[10:34] <SunTsu> sandra_: "inmate" is a curious term
[10:34] <agronholm> jmp_: no
[10:34] <M0hi> hexacode: date -u  for UTC
[10:34] <ntr0py> Where can i set the fonts in Gnome3?
[10:35] <hexacode> thanks M0hi
[10:35] <Thomas___> Hello. I have multi-homed system where eth0 is lan and eth1 is wan. There is internet connectivity through both, but via different   routes. When the system boots, I cannot connect to e.g. apache on the WAN interface dispite the fact it listens on *.80. If I   bring down eth0 I can, however. After bringing eth0 back up I can still access apache. There are no IPTables rules active (Policy:   accept). "What is wrong?". Where do I start 
[10:35] <M0hi> yw
[10:35] <sandra_> SunTsu, just a bit of humor, if anyone would of told me a few months ago I'd be tinkering with inner workings of a OS I would of laughed and told them to lock me away w/the other inmates lol
[10:35] <compdoc> sandra_, open a folder as admin? Never seen that as an option.
[10:35] <vak> ever worst upgrade happened with Ubuntu to me! :(
[10:36] <GrabbingStraws> Hi, whereas there are analogical comparisons between social networks (here http://blog.ziggytek.com/2011/07/13/google-vs-facebook-vs-myspace/ ) where can I find something like this with Ubuntu and other OSes?
[10:36] <_trine> well I have tried but I cant get to boot to my normal user since upgrading to 11.10 it only allows me to boot to root
[10:36] <vak> 2 notebooks are in unusable state
[10:36] <Myrtti> GrabbingStraws: how about you keep the offtopic at the designated channel?
[10:36] <sandra_> compdoc, it's alway's been available in Synaptic Package Manager :-)
[10:37] <GrabbingStraws> Myrtti: close enough?
[10:37] <GrabbingStraws> and Myrtti, they don't answer directly straight away, so i had hoped for better luck in here
[10:37] <s1> vak: you might wanna reboot and reset your USER password by booting to the recovery mode.
[10:37] <sandra_> compdoc, And by default in Linuxmint 11 :-)
[10:37] <compdoc> why would you need the option to open a folder that way? for what purpose?
[10:37] <M0hi> !offtopic | GrabbingStraws
[10:38] <dc5ala> _trine, still no luck? Have you manages to manually start gdm?
[10:38]  * phlak_user can confirm that downloading the iso and booting off it and then installing after selecting "Upgrade" works fine; keeping Documents intact
[10:38] <vak> s1: I did reboot for one of those notebooks -- no graphics now, no networking. Ever worst update.
[10:39] <rigved> sandra_: nautilus-gksu only allows opening files as admin, not folders, afaik.
[10:39] <vak> s1: but login in text mode works fine. I am still not sure if I could reboot the second notebook
[10:39] <sandra_> compdoc, I use it for a variety of reasons but ultimately and I know what I'm about to say is highly subjective but it's a very user friendly way to work with the contents of folders and files I've seen so far.
[10:39] <noturbusiness> Does anybody here have Cr-48 and tried to update ubuntu on it?
[10:39] <phlak_user> _trine: i just discovered; lightdm is the default display manager for 11.10
[10:39] <_trine> dc5ala, when I do dpkg-reconfigure gdm it askes me if I want to change to gdm
[10:39] <ntr0py> How can i set BGRa subpixel rendering in ubuntu ?
[10:39] <_trine> dc5ala, and if I choose gdm it wont boot
[10:39] <compdoc> sandra_, you want to be able to change/delete files as root?
[10:40] <compdoc> in the folder?
[10:40] <_trine> dc5ala, so then I have to go back to lightdm
[10:40] <dc5ala> _trine, i will try it here on my machine then
[10:40] <Alex90> Morning all, is it just me or are the downloads in the software centre very slow today?
[10:40] <_trine> dc5ala, thank you
[10:41] <ucenik09> alo icko
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> Alex90: server overload, maybe?
[10:41] <sandra_> rigved, I'm sorry but that's inaccurate. Once you enable this option under 11.04 you can simply right moue click on a folder and the option "Open as Adminstrator" is there in the menu :-)
[10:41] <ucenik09> am
[10:41] <ucenik09> can some 1 tell me how to install wine
[10:41] <ucenik25> hi
[10:41] <s1> vak: what graphics hardware those noebooks got! .. you might need to try one of 'em GRUB Parameters options.
[10:41] <sandra_> compdoc, yes basically that would be it .
[10:41] <Alex90> MonkeyDust: that's what I thought, I just wondered if anyone else had noticed
[10:41] <ucenik25> how can i install wine on ubuntu
[10:41] <jrib> !software | ucenik25
[10:42] <jrib> !wine | ucenik25
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> ucenik25: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:42] <ucenik25> !wine
[10:42] <ucenik25> monkeydust
[10:42] <compdoc> sandra_, you could:  gksudo nautilus
[10:42] <ucenik25> that way doesnt work
[10:42] <ucenik09> but
[10:42] <jrib> ucenik25: sure it does
[10:42] <Alex90> ucenik09: in terminal type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[10:42] <ucenik09> there
[10:42] <ucenik09> is some error
[10:42] <ucenik25> there is error i cant install it
[10:42] <jrib> ucenik09: share the error with us using http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> ucenik25: type sudo apt-get install wine|pastebinit
[10:43] <ntr0py> Where can i set subpixel smoothing in Oneric to BGR???
[10:43] <sandra_> compdoc, Yes I could and discovered that option under Oneiric. But it's easier to right mouse click over a folder and have the option right there :-)
[10:44] <ucenik25> i cant install wine with sudo apt-get install wine
[10:44] <jrib> ucenik09: share the error with us using http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <ucenik09> This is a summary of all `failed' messages and warnings:
[10:44] <ucenik09> `pdfetex -ini  -jobname=latex -progname=latex -translate-file=cp227.tcx *latex.ini' possibly failed.
[10:44] <ucenik09> `pdfetex -ini  -jobname=pdflatex -progname=pdflatex -translate-file=cp227.tcx *pdflatex.ini' possibly failed.
[10:44] <ucenik09> fmtutil-sys failed. Output has been stored in:
[10:44] <ucenik09>   /tmp/tetex.format_creation.uXW32424/fmtutil-sys.log
[10:44] <FloodBot1> ucenik09: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:44] <ucenik09> Please include this file if you report a bug.
[10:44] <meco> How do I tell unrar to open an archive spanning several files?
[10:44] <sandra_> compdoc, if you ever get the chance to run LinuxMint 11 they have that feature and option working straight out of the box so to speak.
[10:44] <ucenik25> i cant install wineeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:44] <M0hi> awwee newnies
[10:45] <jrib> ucenik09: why did you paste in the channel after I asked you to use http://paste.ubuntu.com?  Go to that site and paste your command and the full output.  And stop repeating "I cant instale wine"; we've seen that.
[10:45] <compdoc> sandra_, that would be handy - let me know if you discover a way
[10:45] <sandra_> compdoc, under 11.04 I had to add it in manually from Synaptic Package Manger.
[10:45] <joshua__> Phew.
[10:45] <joshua__> I almost didn't make it back.
[10:45] <dc5ala> _trine, i tried manually stop/start lightdm, gdm and kdm, all working here with logins ok
[10:45] <jrib> meco: unrar e firstone.rar
[10:45] <joshua__> That's a no go on booting to the disk through windows.
[10:46] <meco> jrib: But then it doesn't find the other files
[10:46] <jrib> meco: yes it does, just give it the first one in the series
[10:46] <_trine> dc5ala, can I PM you
[10:46] <sandra_> comdoc, I do see that as a selectable option to select once install Synaptic back in under Oneiric . But once I select it and reboot the option to "Open as Administrator" is not there *sigh*
[10:46] <meco> They're calle like fil.rar file2.rar and file3.rar. Perhaps i should rename them file.rar file.ra2 and file.ra3 or something?
[10:47] <dc5ala> _trine, maybe it's a graphical issue? I had problems with screen not refreshing properly yesterday (nvidia driver), didn't see what i was typing etc.
[10:47] <jrib> meco: how did you create them?
[10:47] <sandra_> wb joshua :-)
[10:47] <joshua__> I booted with the disk in, selected Windows 7, then it asked whether to run startup repair, or start normally.  I tried to start normally first, I saw the Windows loading bar for a fraction of a second, and then the screen turned blue for an instant, and then the computer restarted.
[10:47] <sandra_> joshua, did you read my comment to you ?
[10:47] <meco> jrib: I didn't vreate them. I downloaded them and now I'd like to open them.
[10:47] <_trine> dc5ala, I have the feeling it is graphical
[10:47] <jrib> meco: what are the actually named?
[10:47] <joshua__> Lol, thanks.
[10:47] <joshua__> Which one?  The wb?
[10:48] <sandra_> joshua, no lol
[10:48] <meco> jrib: "International College of Esoteric Studies.rar" "International College of Esoteric Studies 2.rar" "International College of Esoteric Studies 3.rar"
[10:48] <sandra_> you must of left before you read it
[10:48] <joshua__> Oh, what was it?
[10:48] <sandra_> joshua, you simply want to install Ubuntu at this point as your lone OS am I correct ?
[10:48] <jrib> meco: are you sure this is a multi-part archive and not just 3 archives?
[10:48] <joshua__> Yes.  I want to wipe everything as quickly and painlessly as possible.
[10:49] <sandra_> joshua, this is my recommendation for a painless way to to do this.
[10:49] <meco> jrib: Well, the last file in the first archive was incomplete so...
[10:49] <joshua__> At this point, I can't even browse the web on this Ubuntu installation.
[10:49] <joshua__> The browser is crashing as soon as it opens.
[10:49] <joshua__> okay
[10:50] <sandra_> joshua, do you have a usb key by chance available to you ?
[10:50] <roulet1bille> open
[10:50] <joshua__> I have an external hard drive... Not an actual usb
[10:50] <jrib> meco: the naming scheme for split archives is usually filename.part1.rar, etc.  Have you tried just unraring those 3 files?
[10:50] <jrib> meco: the naming scheme for split archives is usually filename.part1.rar, etc.  Have you tried just unraring those 3 files individually?
[10:51] <sandra_> joshua, pity but be that as it may ...make sure you have a solid cd copy of Ubuntu 11.10
[10:51] <sandra_> joshua, by that I mean a version you have burned at say 4x speed..the slower the better.
[10:51] <meco> jrib: When I unrar the second file it starts out trying to extract the last file contained in the first archive and gives me an error messsage.
[10:52] <joshua__> I burned it at 6x.  That was the lowest option available.
[10:52] <jrib> meco: try renaming them how I described
[10:52] <meco> Ok
[10:52] <jrib> meco: (and then extracting the first)
[10:52] <sandra_> joshua, once that is done boot up w/your live CD. When Ubuntu asks how you wish to install check the box that reads "Use entire disk"
[10:53] <sandra_> joshua, it may also say "Erase and use entire disk" choose that...
[10:53] <joshua__> I'm looking at the files on the disk.. There are folders titled "Boot", "Casper", "dists", "efi", "install", "isolinux", "pics", "pool", "preseed", and "ubuntu"
[10:53] <joshua__> Is this right?
[10:53] <jrib> meco: by the way, how did you install unrar?
[10:53] <phlak_user> joshua__: yes
[10:54] <joshua__> How do I boot the cd? That's the problem I'm having.
[10:54] <sandra_> joshua, you have to select that once you are in Live CD mode.
[10:54] <sandra_> joshua, what system are you on ?
[10:54] <joshua__> Because of the way my system files are corrupted, I'm unable to boot from the cd, as far as I can tell.
[10:54] <joshua__> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 right now.
[10:54] <sandra_> joshua, I mean what computer system are you on ?
[10:54] <phlak_user> joshua__: you need to enable boot from CD in BIOS; most modern PCs allow you to select Boot Device at startup by pressing  either Esc or F12
[10:55] <s1> you can just upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10.
[10:55] <s1> !upgrade
[10:55] <meco> jrib: Nice. with the correct renaming it went well.
[10:55] <joshua__> But I'm having issues... I don't have permissions that I should have, and my browser crashes when I open it.  I messed something up in trying to wipe the hard drive... Lol
[10:55] <Calinou> how am I supposed to copy my /home folder on a external HDD? I can't copy on it, nor I can use sudo (broken sudo)
[10:55] <phlak_user> Calinou: use rsync
[10:55] <phlak_user> !rsync| Calinou
[10:56] <sandra_> joshua, phlak_user is correct on my HP-HDX-18-Notebook I have to press f9 to boot from CD or USB
[10:56] <jrib> Calinou: why is sudo broken?
[10:56] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[10:56] <Calinou> everyone is going to flame me... but chmodding 777 /usr/bin was never a good idea
[10:56] <joshua__> So, bios, then look for what?
[10:56] <Calinou> just to install a dependancy, since ubuntu hadn't it
[10:56] <sandra_> joshua, that is why I asked what computer system you are currently using.
[10:56] <s1> hey B
[10:56] <jrib> Calinou: use a live cd (probably a better option in this case) or try using recovery mode from the grub menu
[10:56] <Tenkawa> so.. anyone else run into issues with the re-routing of /var/run/*
[10:57] <phlak_user> joshua__: start by describing make/model etc
[10:57] <Calinou> fine then, I have 11.10's iso and a DVD
[10:57] <jrib> Tenkawa: what does "re-routing of /var/run/*" /mean/?
[10:57] <Calinou> ...I can use the live CD to copy stuff from /home to the external HDD? it works?
[10:57] <joshua__> It is a system that I built... I would have to describe every component.
[10:57] <rigved> joshua__: are you able to boot into Ubuntu and view the 11.10 CD from it?
[10:57] <joshua__> Yes.
[10:57] <joshua__> i'm in ubuntu now, and I can see the cd in the drive.
[10:57] <sandra_> joshua, no dear just tell me what mother board you put in your system please at this point.
[10:58] <Tenkawa> jrib: 11.10 started using /run/* instead of /var/run and I had a pretty interesting time setting symbolic links back up to keep dbus and plymouth from breaking
[10:58] <joshua__> Umm, hold on.   Let me see if I still have the manual.
[10:58] <Luci4n0> hey all .. is upgrading to 11.10 from 11.04 an option right now? or is reinstalling the only option?
[10:58] <sammmm> Is it just me or is apt-get update taking forever ATM?
[10:58] <Luci4n0> had some issues installing 11.10 from live cd
[10:58] <Tenkawa> sammmm: I imagine the servers are pretty busy
[10:58] <s1> Calinou: yes,that should do it.
[10:58] <phlak_user> Luci4n0: there is an option to Upgrade even after you boot from CD/USB
[10:58] <Calinou> ok then :)
[10:58] <pureevol> is it possible to downgrade back to 11.04? i upgraded to 11.10 last night and now about the only thing i can even open is firefox
[10:58] <rigved> joshua__: then, boot into 11.04 and then put the 11.10 CD in. It will ask you whether you want to upgrade. Click Yes. Then, see if 11.10 is working fine or not as compared to your 11.04.
[10:58] <modemuser> I'm having problems with installing the alternate version of 11.10. Any image I download seems to be broken, ie. checking the media in the installation menu shows an error. Any ideas?
[10:58] <utilisateur> hi all!
[10:58] <sammmm> Tenkawa: Ah, I thought so. This usually happens when Ubuntu is released. :(
[10:59] <sandra_> Luci4n0, That's why I prefer to boot from a USB Key :-)
[10:59] <Tenkawa> sammmm: yeah it took me forever yesterday
[10:59] <Luci4n0> phlak_user: ill give it a try .. thanks
[10:59] <compdoc> is there a way to update qemu-kvm to version 0.15? Ubuntu 11.10 is still using 0.14
[10:59] <quasar_> hi
[10:59] <Widgit> Hi, how do you update from 11.10B2 to RC?
[10:59] <Calinou> hearing problems with 11.10... should it work fine on most computers?
[11:00] <Luci4n0> sandra_: installing from usb key as well? and why?
[11:00] <joshua__> The motherboard manual says MSI P67A-C45/P67A-C43/P67S-C43/P67A-S40
[11:00] <Tenkawa> Calinou: depends on the problems...
[11:00] <rigved> compdoc: check if there is a ppa for it or if there is a package in debian (testing/experimental) for it.
[11:00] <rigved> joshua__: then, boot into 11.04 and then put the 11.10 CD in. It will ask you whether you want to upgrade. Click Yes. Then, see if 11.10 is working fine or not as compared to your 11.04.
[11:00] <pureevol> is it possible to switch back to 11.04? or do i have to uninstall ubuntu completely and start completely over?
[11:00] <daysmen> Any love for kubuntu 11.10 or is it a miss
[11:00] <sammmm> daysmen: Install Ubuntu then install KDE?
[11:00] <daysmen> im installing now just hope compiz is not a screw up
[11:00] <sandra_> compdoc, go to http://www.getdeb.net/welcome/ see if your program is there and just simply download it from there :-)
[11:00] <celltech> How do I find out what type of ram I have?
[11:00] <Tenkawa> my biggest annoyance so far is the dramatic UI changes
[11:01] <jrib> pureevol: the latter (but you can use backups of course)
[11:01] <phlak_user> celltech: type?
[11:01] <joshua__> When I put the disk in Ubuntu, it asks "A volume with software packages has been detected.  Would you like to open it with the package manager"?
[11:01] <rigved> Widgit: the upgrade should happen automatically.
[11:01] <celltech> ddr sd
[11:01] <daysmen> sammmm: im using kubuntu and have done for a while now
[11:01] <celltech> like that
[11:01] <sandra_> Luci4n0, I find using live USB key makes for a smoother and faster installation is all :-)
[11:01] <rigved> joshua__: yes. open it.
[11:01] <xpermental> so am i correct to assume that 11.10 is continuing with Unity as the default desktop environment?
[11:01] <Tenkawa> and does anyone know how to turn off this auto display dimming after a few seconds of idle
[11:01] <daysmen> but have experienced major issues with compix and powermanagement
[11:02] <Widgit> did a update-manager -d, came back with no update needed
[11:02] <pureevol> im new to ubuntu, only been using it for about a month. by chance did ubuntu make an auto back up and if so how do i find it to revert back to 11.04?
[11:02] <rigved> joshua__: does it ask you whether you want to upgrade to 11.10?
[11:02] <quasar_> tag on back of chip
[11:02] <Luci4n0> sandra_: ok .. i need a new usb key anyway, so might as well try .. thx
[11:02] <phlak_user> Tenkawa: power management?
[11:02] <Tenkawa> phlak_user: yeah...looking now
[11:02] <s1> xpermental: correct.
[11:02] <sandra_> joshua, are you in the live CD environment right now ?
[11:02] <joshua__> Got an error message - "Failed to run synaptic --add-cdrom'/media/Ubuntu11.10amd64' as user root.  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"
[11:03] <rigved> pureevol: no. you need to re-install. there is no way back otherwise.
[11:03] <away|Henry01> short question: how can i copy my complete ubuntu froma livecd to an external hdd? It says you have not permissions to read it. But im using sudo
[11:03] <pureevol> so do i go back into windows and uninstall ubuntu? im using wubi
[11:03] <dikidera> just to ask, but how can i connect to ubuntu 11.04 from windows 7's remote desktop connection
[11:03] <xpermental> so is there a version where gnome is default like how the have for kubuntu(kde) and xubuntu(xfce)
[11:03] <phlak_user> away|Henry01: just use startup disk creator
[11:03] <jrib> !nounity | xpermental
[11:04] <dikidera> as in i have ssh access and i need to install AND configure
[11:04] <dikidera> some way to access via remote desktop conn
[11:04] <sandra_> joshua, can you please answer my question ?
[11:04] <jrib> !vnc | dikidera
[11:04] <pureevol> this happens everytime i come to ubuntu. its so awesome then theres an update and then my pc runs like crap.......
[11:04] <rigved> joshua__: open up a terminal and type this: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <-- make sure that your 11.10 CD is still in the drive.
[11:04] <away|Henry01> phlak_user, how do you mean? I am alredy in the live ubuntu
[11:04] <phlak_user> dikidera: you can use tightVNC from Windows and enable vino in Ubuntu
[11:04] <CasW> Hmm, how can I remove the "dash home" button from that dock?
[11:05] <joshua__> I did.  I'm not in the environment.. I got an error message when I told it to open with the package manager.
[11:05] <Tenkawa> thanks all.. need to relogin..
[11:05] <rigved> joshua__: The Official channel of Ubuntu Indian Team !~ http://www.ubuntu-in.info| Please chat in english so that  everyone can understand | Please observe the Ubuntu Code of Conduct | Natty Narwhal is here - http://www.ubuntu.com | please use  paste.ubuntu.com for pasting output | Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Release Party Mumbai http://is.gd/XvD1Jr http://g.co/maps/wrnn7
[11:05] <rigved> joshua__: sorry abt that :)
[11:05] <sandra_> joshua, darling please take a deep breath and tell me are you currently running Ubuntu off of the live CD at this time ?
[11:06] <sandra_> joshua, or running it off of your hard drive ?
[11:06] <satty> hey guys, I just switched from fedora
[11:06] <phlak_user> sandra_: he still hasnt figured out how to boot from the CD
[11:06] <joshua__> Haha.  No problem. =)
[11:06] <joshua__> sandra, I'm running it off of my hard drive.
[11:06] <satty> Now the problem is i am not able to configure my wifi
[11:06] <rigved> joshua__: well. i'm out of ideas. sorry.
[11:07] <sandra_> joshua, please boot off of your live CD and follow the previous instructions I gave you.
[11:07] <joshua__> rigved, I'm running that update now
[11:07] <joshua__> It's doing something
[11:07] <satty> how  to configure my wifi
[11:07] <s1> !wifi | satty
[11:07] <rigved> joshua__: ok.
[11:08] <spm_Draget> I try to mount an samba share with mount -t cifs -o soft,gid..,uid... //blah/blah foo but it says only root can do this. Is there another way for a regular user to mount samba shares over console?
[11:08] <rigved> sandra_: joshua__ is unable to get into his BIOS. so he cannot boot into the LiveCD.
[11:08] <sandra_> joshua, when you boot into the live CD version reinstall Ubuntu and select the option to use & earse the entire hard drive.
[11:08] <away|Henry01> oh I have a idea ih have a parted magiclive cd anywhere thanky you
[11:08] <sandra_> joshua, did you find your mother board manual ?
[11:09] <sandra_> rigved, oh I understand that's why I asked him who made his mother board.
[11:09] <rigved> sandra_: ok.
[11:09] <giulia> hello, I just have upraded to Ubuntu 11.10. How can I suppress gnome-login-sound on login ?
[11:09] <scarleo> Why does Oneiric want to remove gecko-mediaplayer and sun-java6-plugin when I try to uninstall chromium? I still have firefox and want those plugins
[11:09] <joshua__> sandra, I did.  It's model NO. MS-7673
[11:10] <joshua__> MSi
[11:10] <joshua__> rigved, still loading.
[11:10] <sandra_> oops we lost joshua I sure hope he doesn't wind up shooting his computer lol
[11:11] <sandra_> joshua, now look at your manual and find which key you have to press in order to access the boot menu options for your Mother board please.
[11:11] <joshua__> I was really hoping that there would be a simple terminal command that would write over every bit of data on my hard drive, and I could restart and be done with it... I guess life is never that simple.  =/
[11:11] <iceroot> joshua__: dd
[11:12] <sandra_> joshua, at this point you have to perform a clean install . Hang in there.
[11:12] <jojo_> hi any body can help me her
[11:12] <sandra_> joshua, is there any way you can get your hands on a USB key ?
[11:12] <jojo_> I am having a problem in samba...
[11:12] <iceroot> joshua__: boot a live-cd and use "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdX" (replace X with your drive) and remeber!! that will delete everything on that drive, so dont use the wrong one
[11:12] <phlak_user> !anybody| jojo_
[11:13] <iceroot> jojo_: #samba
[11:13] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04. My wireless has stopped working :(
[11:13] <dikidera> phlak_user:but how do i enable this vino and configure it from the command line?
[11:14] <dhruvasagar> Something went seriously wrong with the upgrade, most of the icons in the system are simply missing and I can barely use it. Please don't tell me I made a huge mistake by upgrading...
[11:14] <sandra_> joshua, what slice of the globe do you call home ?
[11:14] <phlak_user> dikidera: type vino-preferences
[11:14] <jojo_> when i open my folder it says there cannout mount...
[11:15] <joshua__> sandra, I'm from one of the smallest "cities" in middle Tennessee.  Ha.
[11:15] <rigved> joshua__: yes. please check if you can find the key to enter into BIOS, as sandra_ suggests. Fresh install is always prferable to an upgrade.
[11:15] <dhruvasagar> Can anybody please help me!?
[11:15] <spm_Draget> I try to mount an samba share with mount -t cifs -o soft,gid..,uid... //blah/blah foo but it says only root can do this. Is there another way for a regular user to mount samba shares over console?
[11:15] <joshua__> okay.  I found "Del" for setup Menu, and F11 for Boot Menu.
[11:16] <joshua__> Which do I need?
[11:16] <rigved> joshua__: F11
[11:16] <s1>  F11
[11:16] <phlak_user> joshua__: F11
[11:16] <dikidera> phlak_user:i get (vino-preferences:1264): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:16] <sandra_> joshua, darling press F11
[11:16] <jojo_> we have same problem with samba
[11:16] <emdub> i have a reproducable do-release-upgrade crash, anyone know where i should send the logs?
[11:16] <phlak_user> dikidera: type it inside a gnome-terminal
[11:16] <joshua__> Okay.  And what do I need to look for when I get there?
[11:16] <dikidera> sorry cant phlak
[11:16] <iceroot> !bug | emdub
[11:16] <dikidera> i currently have only ssh access
[11:16] <jojo_> I want to share folder with my windows client...
[11:16] <sandra_> joshua, once you press f11 just select boot from CD .
[11:16] <dikidera> i.e just the command line
[11:17] <iceroot> !samba | jojo_
[11:17] <sandra_> joshua, and away you go :-)
[11:17] <phlak_user> dikidera: ok; install vncserver on the remote machine
[11:17] <joshua__> Okay.  If you don't hear from me again, assume it worked.  If I show up in here again tomorrow, that means it didn't.  Lol.
[11:17] <dhruvasagar> please for got sakes someone say something...
[11:17] <phlak_user> !info tightvncserver| dikidera
[11:17] <rigved> joshua__: i can see now that you did not try F11 earlier. you tried F8 and then skipped to F12. ;)
[11:17] <phlak_user> !repear| dhruvasagar
[11:17] <phlak_user> !repeat| dhruvasagar
[11:18] <dhruvasagar> where can I edit the gnome colors or fonts or icons ?
[11:18] <joshua__> Yeah, who picks an odd number for the bios menu?  Sheesh.
[11:18] <dikidera>  Unable to locate package tightvnc
[11:18] <dikidera> i appended server and it found the package
[11:18] <phlak_user> dikidera: tightvncserver
[11:18] <joshua__> Thanks for all of the help guys.  Lets hope this works!
[11:18] <dhruvasagar> :(
[11:18] <joshua__> =)
[11:18] <dhruvasagar> 11.10 is the biggest mess I have ever seen
[11:18] <sandra_> joshua, btw you can also enter into the live Ubuntu session from CD and install Xchat and ask questions from there once you get into the live user mode :-)
[11:18] <dhruvasagar> I don't believe they've actually released this shit
[11:19] <iceroot> !language | dhruvasagar
[11:19] <jrib> dhruvasagar: please stick to support in this channel
[11:19] <joshua__> Oh, I have another issue with getting Unity to work, but I'll worry about that again when I get this situation cleaned up.
[11:19] <s1> dhruvasagar: what hardware graphic card you got there!  make sure it's active. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <joshua__> You guys should be seeing me again.  =P
[11:19] <dhruvasagar> s1 I am using nvidia, but I am quite sure that is working fine
[11:19] <joshua__> See ya.
[11:19] <luist> hey guys... i need to do this live usb to discover hardware on a machine and i found this project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dhlu/files/ can anyone point me how do i use it? just format the pendrive with ext2 and copy all the files?
[11:19] <sandra_> joshua, good luck
[11:19] <rigved> dhruvasagar: 11.10 is an STS. if you want absolute stability, stick to the LTS.
[11:20] <dhruvasagar> s1: yes that is active, I am saying that Ubuntu is missing ICONS, several of the menu or settings etc simply do not have icons!
[11:20] <s1> dhruvasagar: okay , is this after upgrade or a fresh install.
[11:20] <dhruvasagar> the wireless is just not working, that I will trouble shoot, but what the f is this theme in gnome 3 ?
[11:20] <dhruvasagar> How do I edit the theme ?
[11:20] <dhruvasagar> s1: upgrade
[11:21] <s1> dhruvasagar: Ensure these packages are installed: gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-themes-standard (NOT gnome-themes, remove gnome-themes if its installed).
[11:22] <dikidera> phlak_user:i installed it, but how do i configure it?
[11:22] <s1> dhruvasagar: you may use gsettings or gnome tweak tool for themeing.
[11:22] <dhruvasagar> s1: gnome-themes is installed, removing
[11:22] <Thomas___> luist: unetbootin.sourceforge.net - You select an ISO and a USB device, and get a bootable stick from it
[11:22] <dhruvasagar> s1: ok first i'll install those packages
[11:22] <phlak_user> dikidera: man vncserver normally will set you on your way :)
[11:24] <dikidera> well it seems the process is running
[11:24] <s1> dhruvasagar: Once you’ve upgraded all packages, make sure to *remove* gnome-accessibility-themes as it conflicts with gnome-themes-standard and if you have both installed, lightdm/GDM won’t theme well.
[11:24] <dikidera> how do i kill it to reconfigure?
[11:24] <dhruvasagar> I had such a lovely dark theme in 11.04, why did the upgrade have to discard my themes !? and since when does ubuntu does not ship with even a single dark theme!? my eyes are freakin burning!
[11:24] <dikidera> i tried killall tightvnserver but no dice
[11:24] <szymon_g> hi
[11:24] <utilisateur> hi
[11:24] <iceroot> dhruvasagar: download a theme you want
[11:24] <szymon_g> anyone has any idea, why alternate installer of newest ubuntu dosn't wanna install grub on /dev/md0?
[11:24] <phlak_user> dikidera: just type vncserver it will guide you thro the configuration
[11:25] <utilisateur> hi
[11:25] <dikidera> no guiding
[11:25] <phlak_user> carma@35
[11:25] <dikidera> all i get is
[11:25] <dikidera> "New 'X' desktop is ***:3
[11:25] <dikidera> Starting applications specified in /root/.vnc/xstartup
[11:25] <dikidera> Log file is /root/.vnc/ip-***:3.log
[11:25] <dikidera> "
[11:25] <FloodBot1> dikidera: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <phlak_user> dikidera: ok now vncserver is up and on display 3
[11:26] <dikidera> but when i type the IP i cannot connect
[11:26] <dhruvasagar> iceroot: can you help me with that ? some links / resources !?
[11:26] <compdoc> dikidera, vino is for sharing the desktop - someone has to be logged in. vncserver is for logging in remotely, and doesnt require someone be logged into the console
[11:27] <phlak_user> dikidera: now you need to run a vnc client on the remote and select this server:3 to connect
[11:27] <dikidera> just to ask but which port does the vnc server run on?
[11:27] <dikidera> so i can alow it
[11:27] <compdoc> 5901 and up
[11:27] <phlak_user> dikidera: typically 5901
[11:28] <phlak_user> dikidera: netstat -l
[11:29] <ecthiender> hello, i installed a software which got installed in the current directory. to make it a system-wide installation do i have to move it to a particular location?
[11:29] <dikidera> i am using tightvnc on windows as well
[11:29] <phlak_user> ecthiender: yes; /usr/local/bin
[11:29] <dikidera> but no connection is made at all
[11:29] <ecthiender> or can i just include the path in the PATH variable?
[11:29] <ecthiender> okay phlak_user
[11:29] <compdoc> I never liked tightvnc
[11:29] <compdoc> as a server
[11:30] <compdoc> or even as a client
[11:30] <phlak_user> dikidera: did you specify display :3 ?
[11:30] <dikidera> how would i specify that?
[11:30] <knome> i seem to have problem with /var/run moving to /run et cetera. anybody know how to fix this? (i'm on xubuntu, if that should make a difference)
[11:30] <phlak_user> dikidera: on your tightvnc client
[11:31] <dikidera> no such option to specify display
[11:31] <dikidera> all i have is a field to enter the ip address
[11:31] <knome> dikidera, add ::display# to the end of the ip
[11:31] <phlak_user> dikidera: just append :3
[11:31] <knome> phlak_user, :: is port then? :)
[11:31] <dikidera> still nothing
[11:32] <phlak_user> dikidera: hang on: looking at screenshots in tightvnc.com site
[11:32] <dikidera> thought i think i know why i cant
[11:33] <dikidera> i am using amazon aws and they have this public DNS and private dns and private IP
[11:33] <hexacode> anyone know a good backup program for ubuntu ? im running a web server and want to back up everything
[11:33] <MasterOfDisaster> knome: symlinking /var/run and /var/lock should work fine.
[11:33] <phlak_user> dikidera: oh; you need to attach an elastic IP
[11:33] <dikidera> i have connected via ssh to the public DNS but..the OS is running on the private IP
[11:33] <knome> MasterOfDisaster, okay, i'll try that. thanks
[11:33] <phlak_user> hexacode: rsync
[11:33] <dikidera> phlak_user:more money i assume?
[11:33] <hexacode> thanks phlak_user
[11:33] <phlak_user> dikidera: yep; but its free in the Lite tier
[11:34] <dikidera> i am using hi-cpu medium
[11:34] <phlak_user> hexacode: but you might want something more fancy like bacula or amanda
[11:34] <emdub> are there any known issues with oneiric interface aliases?
[11:34] <emdub> also this person is spamming: 04:34 [freenode] [lena(~tekdostum@88.244.183.244)] hi sex http://livecam.de.vc
[11:34] <phlak_user> !info bacula
[11:35] <zetheroo> can someone kick lena off please!!!
[11:35] <riclas> hi guys i'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu but after all packages finish downloading i get a "failed to fetch libgmp3c2" with the whole link to it. should i just wait some hours and retry?
[11:35] <compdoc> poor lean
[11:35] <zetheroo> thanks :)
[11:35] <compdoc> lena
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> how do I add a desktop theme in Oneiric?
[11:35] <oCean> emdub: zetheroo, you can use #ubuntu-ops for this, as not to repeat the spam in channel
[11:35] <emdub> anyway, after booting oneiric, my eth0:0 alias isn't coming up... did something change with this?
[11:35] <phlak_user> MonkeyDust: dash home - appearance
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> phlak_user: and there?
[11:36] <emdub> everything looks proper in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:36] <emdub> oCean: gotcha
[11:36] <zetheroo> oCean: ok thanks
[11:36] <szymon_g> why was he kicked out o.O?
[11:36] <phlak_user> MonkeyDust: theres an option for theme selection; for more fine-grained control use gnome tweak tool
[11:36] <dikidera> ok i will try to use the command line
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> phlak_user: lol
[11:36] <riclas> .
[11:37] <Calinou_> back, I'm on 11.10 live CD
[11:37] <zetheroo> downloading 10.10 torrent ... a bit slow ... 250kB/s ... I must be late ...
[11:37] <zetheroo> 11.10*
[11:37] <Calinou_> I still can't copy files to the external HDD. no option to format it either (the disk is almost empty, only a few mac files)
[11:37] <phlak_user> Calinou_: how/what are you doing?
[11:38] <Calinou_> reinstalling 11.10, removing 11.04 and 10.04 since I don't need them
[11:38] <Calinou_> I want to copy /home first to a external HDD
[11:38] <Calinou_> I'm on live cd right now
[11:38] <phlak_user> Calinou_: i meant how are you issuing the copy command?
[11:38] <arand> Are 11.04->11.10 ugrades set as autmatically suggested atm?
[11:38] <Calinou_> copying the /home folder, can't ctrl+v or click "paste" on the  external hdd (grayed out)
[11:38] <compdoc> Calinou_, and you see your username folder in /home ?
[11:39] <Calinou_> yes, /home/calinou on the 11.04 partition
[11:39] <ubuntu_> Hi, just installed 11.10 on Thinkpad x121e. Install went fine but grub isn't working
[11:39] <red> my ubuntu is a work PC, should I upgrade to 11.10?
[11:39] <knome> MasterOfDisaster, btw, how are you supposed to symlink those while both locations already exist?
[11:39] <compdoc> Calinou_, the external is mounted on the desktop?
[11:39] <ubuntu_> error message is: "error: invalid arch indipendent ELF magic
[11:40] <phlak_user> Calinou_: you should use gksu or gksudo to launch nautilus (or just use the commandline)
[11:40] <Calinou_> yes, it is mounted
[11:40] <ubuntu_> can anyone help?
[11:40] <Calinou_> since when you can use sudo on a live cd? :O
[11:40] <head_victim> How similar is UNity 2d and 3d, is it just that one is prettier or are there actual functional differences?
[11:40] <compdoc> you do use sudo on live
[11:40] <phlak_user> Calinou_: just open a terminal and try it ;)
[11:40] <dikidera> anyone know how i can download this via git? https://github.com/Lolcust/Tenebrix-miner
[11:41] <Calinou_> "nautilus could not create folder..." works fine, but I get this error
[11:41] <dikidera> what do i issue in the command line?
[11:41] <Calinou_> dikidera: install the git packet, type "git clone <link to the git>"
[11:41] <Calinou_> to update the git, go inside using "cd foldername" then "git pull"
[11:41] <utilisateur> salut
[11:42] <dikidera> Calinou_:thank you
[11:42] <Calinou_> !fr | utilisateur
[11:42] <rcmaehl> I need help. My backlight does some random rapid flickering (software caused b/c the brightness bar stays shown) when I try to change the brightness. The only way to stop it is to go to a TTY terminal.
[11:42] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu 11.10
[11:42] <rcmaehl> I had this problem in 11.04 but it wasn't as bad
[11:42] <utilisateur> ok
[11:42] <phlak_user> dikidera: or you could just click on download as zip file
[11:42] <dikidera> phlak_user:command line
[11:43] <Calinou_> so... is copying safe since I got "Could not create /root/.config/nautilus"?
[11:43] <MasterOfDisaster> knome: boot with init=/bin/bash appended to the kernel's cmdline, mount / read-write with 'mount / -o remount,rw', and remove /var/run/* and /var/lock/*.
[11:43] <dn4> hey why is ubuntu considered not free
[11:43] <rcmaehl> dn4: since when
[11:43] <phlak_user> dn4: huh?
[11:43] <Calinou_> ubuntu is free... and open source
[11:43] <dn4> since GNU v 2.0
[11:44] <dn4> something about the kernel having code
[11:44] <phlak_user> dn4: pl take this to offtopic
[11:44] <ubuntu_> Anyone know anything about grub problems on UEFI
[11:44] <dn4> off topic?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> hi, i'm Advanced Gnome Settings and can't find how to change the desktop theme - hints & tips?
[11:44] <Calinou_> I still used gksudo nautilus... can't copy files on the external HDD
[11:44] <Calinou_> "paste" is grayed out again
[11:44] <varikonniemi> oh my god 11.10 seems to be a mess? i started the upgrade process and it wanted to fetch 1,3!?= gigs of data, so i cancelled it
[11:45] <lmj> hello
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> i mean: hi, i'm Advanced Gnome Settings and can't find how to add a desktop theme - hints & tips?
[11:45] <SwedeMike> varikonniemi: why would 1.3 gigs of data be weird?
[11:45] <phlak_user> Calinou_: just create a new folder inside the external HDD and then copy the files inside that
[11:45] <lmj> is anybody here?
[11:45] <varikonniemi> now i am dl.ing the image, and while waiting am reading expereinces from eg. omg ubuntu, and people seem to say it is a trainwreck. should i try mu luck, or just skip this upgrade till it matures?
[11:45] <Calinou_> however, with gksudo I can list files in a folder, where I couldn't without root nautilus
[11:45] <rcmaehl> I didn't have this problem till I installed a few hundred packages after upgrading to 11.10, I can pastebin a list of the packages if it'll help
[11:45] <lmj> answer me!
[11:46] <SwedeMike> !hello | lmj
[11:46] <Calinou_> I *cannot* create folders on the external HDD
[11:46] <varikonniemi> SwedeMike, because i can get it in <700meg by clean install?
[11:46] <phlak_user> !anybody | lmj
[11:46] <oCean> rcmaehl: please don't crosspost your issue
[11:46] <Calinou_> not even on gksudo nautilus
[11:46] <compdoc> Calinou_, it usually comes down to permissions
[11:46] <SwedeMike> varikonniemi: that might not include everything you currently have installed.
[11:46] <amero> hello. how do i get 'show desktop' icon to show on unity bar?
[11:46] <phlak_user> Calinou_: what is the FS on the disk?
[11:46] <zaytsev> hi folks, I can't find the sha/md5 of the latest bunch of isos for 11.10 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[11:46] <rcmaehl> oCean: I have found that crossposting my linux issues usually offers more solutions
[11:46] <varikonniemi> SwedeMike, i am not that worried about the amount, more about the horrible regressions i keep reading about
[11:47] <zaytsev> what am I missing? is there another canonical place to look for hashes?
[11:47] <SwedeMike> varikonniemi: well, that's another issue, I'd bet that's not related to the 1.3 gigs.
[11:47] <Calinou_> how to see it, phlak_user?
[11:47] <ubuntu_> so no one got any ideas on this?
[11:47] <Calinou_> the first time it was used, it was on a mac
[11:47] <varikonniemi> is there any official canonical comment about the situation?
[11:48] <s1> zaytsev: not even in this link ..? http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/11.10/MD5SUMS
[11:48] <phlak_user> Calinou_: typing mount in  a terminal should tell you
[11:48] <Calinou_> just "mount", nothing else? are you sure?
[11:49] <phlak_user> Calinou_: I am, dunno about you though ;)
[11:49] <zaytsev> s1: hmmm, thanks, that's better than nothing, but mac+amd64 is not there. maybe I can search for this file on the mirrors
[11:49] <compdoc> Calinou_, open gparted or disk utility
[11:49] <lmj> I  am so excited ,you answer me ,in fact ,my english is not good! *-*
[11:49] <Calinou_> okay
[11:49] <compdoc> that will tell you the FS
[11:49] <zaytsev> s1: I only knew about this wiki page, I thought this was the canonical reference. strange that I couldn't find the links on the download page
[11:50] <sandra_> bk
[11:50] <phlak_user> wb
[11:50] <Calinou_> hmm... where is the disk utility? it isn't in system settings
[11:50] <sandra_> I wonder if joshua ever made it back ?
[11:50] <zaytsev> 9153a03eaddb9bdd15686f4640a61403 *ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso <--- ok I am happy now :-)
[11:51] <phlak_user> Calinou_: that command would produce and output like this -> /dev/sda5 on / type ext4
[11:51] <phlak_user> Calinou_: where you know that ext4 is the FS on /dev/sda5
[11:51] <squig> i wonder if any one uses gtalk accounts with empathy on 10.04? we had a strange issue today where all of our contact details disapeared from accounts
[11:51] <c_nick> how to find out currently logged in users on ubuntu 10.04
[11:51] <sandra_> Calinou, just type disk utility you will see it there :-)
[11:51] <squig> c_nick, who
[11:51] <sandra_> oops of course 1st click on the ubuntu logo on your unity dock lol
[11:52] <dikidera> how do i get the system info
[11:52] <dikidera> i.e cpu and such?
[11:52] <c_nick> squig, I have 2 users on my machine .. my uptime says 2 users too.. i want to find out if someone else is connected to my pc besides me or not
[11:52] <Pici> c_nick: no, the command is 'who'
[11:52] <s1> zaytsev: yeah , if you noticed .. the hashes for 11.10 is not listed on that wiki/page yet. you might as well wanna look in the same page you Downloaded the iso from.
[11:52] <squig> c_nick, try the commans who or the command last
[11:52] <c_nick> ok
[11:53] <Calinou_> the external HDD *seems* to be ext4
[11:53] <Calinou_> not 100% sure
[11:53] <phlak_user> dikidera: sudo lshw
[11:54] <phlak_user> Calinou_: if you pastebinit we might also try to guess
[11:54] <bourke> Hi, can someone tell me how I can remove packages from a specific pool with reprepro?  The man page says 'remove codename package-names', but no reference to what pool to remove from..
[11:54] <sandra_> Calinou, Ext 4 is the default format for 11.10
[11:54] <sandra_> Calinou, unless of course you chose another format when you installed 11.10
[11:54] <Calinou_> "Sans titre" is the name of the external HDD, btw, going to pastebin...
[11:55] <phlak_user> sandra_: he wants to check the fs on an external hdd
[11:55] <masak> just upgraded Ubuntu. is there any way I can make Alt+Tab switch only between windows on the current desktop, not all desktops?
[11:55] <sandra_> phlak_user, oops sorry my bad :-)
[11:55] <s1> zaytsev: is it a DVD image or a CD one.!
[11:55] <phlak_user> masak: someone else said ctl-alt-tab did that
[11:55] <Adelmann> Hello, I have Ubuntu 11.04 + GnomeShell 2.x. Will GnomeShell be replaced after the update?
[11:55] <phlak_user> sandra_: np
[11:56] <Calinou_> http://pastebin.com/PQWu43ay
[11:56] <arand> Are 11.04->11.10 ugrades set as autmatically suggested atm?
[11:56] <swing_kid> hey, anyone here who knows how to configure software raid on ubuntu server?
[11:56] <rcmaehl> where is any power related config stored?
[11:56] <Calinou_> Adelmann: you will probably have to reinstall it
[11:56] <anAngel> Hello. How can i change grub to display verbosely what loads to see where exactly it hangs and stops loading the os? I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 earlier following this howto www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-11.04-natty-narwhal-to-11.10-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-and-server-p2 but after the restart and soon after selecting the new grub entry hdd activity stops and the monitor stays blank but working not sleeping in powersave mode
[11:57] <phlak_user> Calinou_: ok got it -> /dev/sdb3 on /media/Sans titre type hfsplus (ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) its hfsplus and mounted read-only
[11:57] <Calinou_> I never installed 11.10 yet, live cd for now
[11:57] <Calinou_> ok... how can I remove the read-only thing?
[11:57] <masak> phlak_user: not here; not by default, at least.
[11:57] <compdoc> hfsplus is apple, right?
[11:57] <AcidX_> I successfully configured an Apache2 webserver with SSL encryption but there are a few things that I don't understand. Anyone here who might be able to explain me some certificate-related stuff?
[11:58] <phlak_user> masak: oh ok
[11:58] <Calinou_> yes
[11:58] <magik_> guys help me with the network on ubuntu itś so damn slow (on windows 7 works perfekt) and it stops every 2 minuts and i have to exit the network and enter again ... :/ somebody knows how to fix this ?
[11:58] <Calinou_> AcidX_: don't ask to ask
[11:58] <compdoc> does ubuntu support apple filesystems out of the box?
[11:58] <arand> Calinou_: So the no-title filesystem is HFS+ then, OSX fs.
[11:58] <Pici> AcidX_: This channel is rather busy due to the release, you may be better off asking in #httpd (apache's channel) today. :)
[11:58] <phlak_user> Calinou_: do you still have access to the Mac? if so, you need to turn off journalling and then mount it read-write
[11:59] <AcidX_> Pici: thanks
[11:59] <s1>  Pici cheers mate.. thanks for the "Gnome2" bot log adds , you saved the day! :-)
[11:59] <Calinou_> okay :) I have access to the mac
[11:59] <phlak_user> compdoc: yes read-only
[11:59] <Pici> s1: np :)
[11:59] <Calinou_> fine then... away for some time, thanks!
[11:59] <phlak_user> Calinou_: this might come in handy - http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[12:00] <arand> the package hfsutils should allow rw hfs+ access.
[12:00] <magik_> somebody know the solucion of my problem ?
[12:00] <Calinou_> second question, is it possible to remove several partitions at a time when installing 11.10?
[12:00] <Calinou_> I don't use 11.04 (once I'll copy the home/) nor 10.04
[12:00] <phlak_user> Calinou_: yes
[12:00] <JadedJacob> Hi, I'm wanting to setup a pentium 2.4ghz box with 2GB of RAM as a internet router.
[12:01] <Calinou_> phlak_user: how can I do that? in the custom partitioning utility?
[12:01] <JadedJacob> I'm using an internal ADSL modem, is it possible to run the server with a GUI ?
[12:01] <phlak_user> Calinou_: yes
[12:01] <e75> hello
[12:02] <emdub> argh oneiric seems so half baked :(
[12:02] <Mairusu> Hello, I made a mistake closing a gnolme-terminal while a dpkg config was running ( http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/lirc/info_modules.png?cache= )and now can't fix apt
[12:02] <phlak_user> JadedJacob: yes
[12:02] <emdub> easily the most problems of any ubuntu release that i can remember in a long time
[12:02] <gribouille> hi
[12:02] <JadedJacob> OK cool.
[12:02] <bhavesh> Im trying to install Google Chrome from chrome.google.com on Ubuntu 11.10 but it says INTERNAL ERROR when I double click on the .deb
[12:02] <JadedJacob> I'll get started on it :)
[12:02] <gribouille> if I install the nvidia driver, it blacklists the nouveau driver, but the nouveau driver is still loaded when I reboot, and prevents X from starting
[12:02] <Mairusu> Oh wait, the reboot fixed it.
[12:02] <Mairusu> nervermind
[12:02] <Calinou_> on a mac, is it possible to format a HDD to put it as ext4 directly?
[12:03] <bhavesh> its a 64-bit version of the browser
[12:03] <JadedJacob> Should I install 10.04 LTS or 11.04?
[12:03] <sandra_> I was wondering if one of my fellow Ubuntu inmates could give me a hand and tell me how can I get the right click folder option "Open as Administrator " to work under Oneiric? That wonderful option works for me under Natty by simply selecting "nautilus-gksu" and then once selected logging out and back in and the "Open as Administrator" option is there, but not under Oneiric. Any ideas ? thanks.
[12:03] <phlak_user> Calinou_: youll have to ask the Mac ppl
[12:03] <bhavesh> JadedJacob, 11.10?
[12:03] <Calinou_> you mean 11.10, JadedJacob ?
[12:03] <Calinou_> afk now
[12:03] <MrTAToad> Does anyone know how long it takes for an application to be reviewed for the Ubuntu App Store ?
[12:03] <e75> upgraded to 11.10, now when trying to load ubuntu, it always hangs after saying "starting timidity++ alsa emulation        ok".... so any one know what to do or where to start looking?
[12:04] <JadedJacob> i didn't know that 11.10 was out yet
[12:04] <e75> i can still switch to another terminal, explaining why i'm online right now.
[12:04] <e75> well whatever the new version. i don't really care about specifics
[12:04] <sandra_> phlak_user, could you kindly tell me if Joshua ever made it back ?
[12:05] <phlak_user> sandra_: havent seen him around yet :)
[12:05] <anAngel> anyone know which setting in /etc/default/grub need to be changed/added so it would display verbosely what loads when the os starts?
[12:06] <phlak_user> anAngel: add "nosplash" and remove "quiet" i think
[12:06] <c_nick> ok thanks
[12:07] <anAngel> phlak_user: thanks i will try it now
[12:07] <popsch> is there somewhere an RSS feed for updates of the main oneiric repository?
[12:08] <e75> upgraded to 11.10, now when trying to load ubuntu, it always hangs after saying "starting timidity++ alsa emulation        ok".... so any one know what to do or where to start looking?
[12:10] <Pici> popsch: Theres the oneiric changes mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Oneiric-changes
[12:13] <GirlyGirl> ASUS Eee PC 1005ha Seashell .... Function keys for screen off and touch pad off to not work in 11.10 ... the touchpad off was working in 11.04
[12:14] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, Hey, I have that one too!
[12:14] <popsch> Thinkpad 420, touchpad-indicator is no longer working
[12:14] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: Same problem
[12:15] <GirlyGirl> ?
[12:15] <phlak_user> GirlyGirl: does Fn+F3 work?
[12:15] <GirlyGirl> phlak_user: no
[12:15] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, Er, I still didnt try installing anything on it.. got it 2 days ago.. well whats the key for boot menu?
[12:16] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: shift
[12:16] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, ty
[12:16] <e75> upgraded to 11.10, now when trying to load ubuntu, it always hangs after saying "starting timidity++ alsa emulation        ok".... so any one know what to do or where to start looking?
[12:16] <lmj> cool
[12:16] <phlak_user> sandra_: there appears to be a bug report and a fix reported for your issue -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/817383
[12:16] <e75> yeah i'd google my problem, but i'm in china. i can only somewhat get hong kongs google service
[12:17] <bhavesh> why do I get internal error when I try to install Google Chrome .deb in Software Centre? Do I need to enable some repos?
[12:17] <e75> fuck this 11.10 upgrade. i wish i could punch a developer right now :(
[12:17] <magik_> someboody knows how to install madwifi?
[12:17] <joesepp> Hello! I have a question about grep and regex. Is it ok to ask it here?
[12:17] <oCean> e75: control your language here, please
[12:17] <sandra_> phlak_user, you are life saver :-)
[12:17] <GirlyGirl> !language | e75
[12:17] <Calinou_> back
[12:17] <lanfeust21> hi, i have upgraded an ubuntu server from 9.10 to 10.04 but the server refuse to boot, the log are left untouched, any idea of what to check when in rescue mode ?
[12:17] <JadedJacob> I think I may have hit a wall.
[12:17]  * e75 hugs GirlyGirl 
[12:17] <knick> Hi guys, I just upgraded to 11.10 but I want to go back to the ubuntu-classic skin, how can I do that?
[12:18] <Calinou_> I still can't edit files inside... how do I format the disk drive to be ext4?
[12:18] <Calinou_> knick: log out, choose "GNOME classic"
[12:18] <JadedJacob> There is almost no support for my internal ADSL modem, it's a 'alcatel speedtouch PCI'
[12:18] <knick> Calinou_, its not there
[12:18] <phlak_user> Calinou_: use some partition editor like Gparted and delete partitions, create new ones, format it as ext4
[12:18] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, Our netbook is 32 bit?
[12:18] <Calinou_> I guess you have to install gnome then
[12:18] <Calinou_> !gnome
[12:18] <GirlyGirl> knick: Install gnome-shell ...then there will be an entry called gnome fallback ... that is similar to classic
[12:18] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: Yes
[12:19] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, k
[12:19] <Calinou_> how do I start gparted, phlak_user ? "gparted" in terminal?
[12:19] <spacebug-> after upgrade to 11.10 somehow my binding in irssi does not work nay more. ^W^C to close window. I have tried different terminals. There is the same irssi-config, same screen-config and same inputrc.
[12:19] <joesepp> anyone?
[12:19] <phlak_user> Calinou_: yes
[12:19] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: Ubuntu 11.10 lags a bit on it, I would suggest Kubuntu on it that works like a charm
[12:20] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, ok
[12:20] <e75> upgraded to 11.10, now when trying to load ubuntu, it always hangs after saying "starting timidity++ alsa emulation        ok".... so any one know what to do or where to start looking?
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> spacebug-: i use byobu-screen for irssi -- F6 to close a window
[12:20] <patkul> hey guys, after upgrading to oneiric, git doesn't work with smart http anymore.. looks like an encoding problem.. any ideaS?
[12:20] <ubuntu__> anybody here can help me?
[12:20] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, Well did u try ubuntu gnome 3 shell on it? Thats not supposed to lag
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> spacebug-: to restore keybinding, type ctrl-A !
[12:20] <sandra_> phlak_user,thank you so much :-)
[12:20] <Calinou_> gksudo gparted or sudo gparted?
[12:20] <e75> does anyone know what 11.10 tries starting after timidity?
[12:20] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: That is worse!
[12:20] <phlak_user> sandra_: did it work?
[12:21] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, lol
[12:21] <e75> everyone says - no we don't eclipse. just switch to a pirated version of windows or slackware.
[12:21] <spacebug-> MonkeyDust: restore them from what?
[12:21] <e75> hm, that's i'm thinking
[12:21] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: Not that the netbook is slow ... GTK3 etc is still new
[12:21] <ethanol> 11.10 broke dual screen :<
[12:21] <e75> i just see questions and no answers here :(
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> spacebug-: if the keybindings do not work
[12:21] <sandra_> phlak_user, I haven't tried it yet I'm still reading and soaking it in lol
[12:21] <phlak_user> sandra_: ok
[12:21] <Maestr0> just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 but now my Unity doesn't seem to want to start... reboots and --reset or --restart have no effect. Thoughts?
[12:21] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: Anyways I actually prefer KDE even since before
[12:21] <sandra_> phlak_user, but you will be the 1st to know :-)
[12:22] <phlak_user> sandra_: tx :)
[12:22] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, Well ive got a ASUS eee PC 900HA
[12:22] <ubuntu__> my computer hanged in middle of upgrading to 11.10 now it wont boot to graphical or console .i have access to live cd ,can i restore ubuntu to before or updateit from livecd11.04 ?
[12:22] <bhavesh> probably it would be worser
[12:22] <bhavesh> :(
[12:22] <Calinou_> phlak_user: should I use gksudo gparted or sudo gparted?
[12:22] <bhavesh> Calinou_, Anyone will do
[12:22] <phlak_user> Calinou_: both are fine
[12:22] <Calinou_> ok
[12:22] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: Ah yes that is very different than mine a lot slower
[12:22] <sattu94> Calinou_: gksudo is preferable,
[12:23] <ubuntu__> my computer hanged in middle of upgrading to 11.10 now it wont boot to graphical or console .i have access to live cd ,can i restore ubuntu to before or update it from livecd11.04 ?
[12:23] <Calinou_> ok then
[12:23] <GirlyGirl> bhavesh: 1st try Kubuntu, according to me it will be blazing fast ... if its not go with lubuntu
[12:23] <bhavesh> GirlyGirl, ok
[12:23] <ubuntu__> nobody?
[12:23] <phlak_user> !nobody
[12:23] <ubuntu__> polz help
[12:23] <sandra_> ubuntu_I recommend you just go with a fresh install , at this point if you have a portable HD or USB key back up what you like and start from scratch.
[12:24] <g3orge> what's the unity min requirements in 11.10 ??
[12:24] <sandra_> it's less headaches at the end.
[12:24] <Calinou_> can't format it still
[12:24] <Calinou_> I formatted it on the mac on "extended mac os without journalling"
[12:24] <Calinou_> when right clicking it, "format to" is grayed out
[12:25] <phlak_user> Calinou_: not on the mac dude; on your Ubuntu LiveCD session
[12:25] <xploit3r> i install ubuntu in virtual box and i get "unity web player error" can anyone help me with it?
[12:25] <Egbert9e9> :(
[12:25] <sgs2_usr> ubuntu 11.10 bluetooth doesnt work anymore for transferring files to my phone
[12:25] <sgs2_usr> any idea why?
[12:27] <lucian_> hey who knows from where to change to gnomeclasic interface on ubuntu 11.10
[12:27] <Calinou_> yes, I have formatted it on the mac
[12:27] <Calinou_> now I cannot format it on the linux, like I wasn't able to do before
[12:27] <Calinou_> how do I use this? http://packages.debian.org/sid/hfsprogs
[12:27] <ubuntu__> no other way?
[12:27] <JadedJacob> sorry, got disconnected.
[12:27] <spacebug-> MonkeyDust: still no go
[12:27] <ubuntu__> i want to keep my apps that i installed and i downloaded all the debs for update with a very slow connection
[12:27] <arghx> ubuntu__: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:28] <lucian_> can anyone help me?
[12:28] <phlak_user> Calinou_: is it so difficult to create new partitions in Ubuntu and then format?
[12:28] <magik_> lucian_ , with what ^^ ... depend =
[12:28] <magik_> lucian_: =)
[12:28] <lucian_> gnome-classic interface on 11.10
[12:28] <lucian_> from where
[12:29] <lucian_> or how to do it from terminal?
[12:29] <magik_> amm
[12:29] <xploit3r>  i install ubuntu in virtual box and i get "unity web player error" can anyone help me with it?
[12:29] <magik_> there is no
[12:29] <lucian_> no gnome classic?
[12:29] <lucian_> :O
[12:29] <magik_> lucian_: there is no gnome-clasic in the ubuntu softwere update '
[12:29] <magik_> lucian_:  noo :D
[12:29] <lucian_> :((
[12:30] <Calinou_> can't create a new partition, "new" is grayed out
[12:30] <magik_> lucian_: look in center of software ubuntu
[12:30] <magik_> =)
[12:30] <Pici> !notunity | lucian_ magik_
[12:30] <arghx> Calinou_: do you have free unallocated space on the disk?
[12:30] <Calinou_> 6MB, ridiculous
[12:31] <lucian_> thx pici
[12:31]  * phlak_user finds the gnome3 shell sexy!
[12:31] <arghx> Calinou_: if you have no free space, you obviouslycannot create a new partition. make some room and you can
[12:31] <Calinou_> I CAN make room easily
[12:31] <phlak_user> Calinou_: does it let you delete existing partitions?
[12:31] <arghx> then do it
[12:31] <Calinou_> just, I need to reformat the external drive so I can copy /home on it
[12:31] <craigbass1976> I was in yesterday asking about firing up an app (thunderbird in my case) without having to log into the gui.  If I open up a terminal and su - to me, I get Error: cannot open display: :0.0
[12:32] <Calinou_> only "Unmount", "Manage Flags" and "Information" can be done on the external drive
[12:32] <phlak_user> craigbass1976: thats not possible
[12:32] <arghx> Calinou_: in what program are you trying to create  partition?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> craigbass1976: try ssh -Y to your local ip address and launch the app, it's how i do it
[12:32] <Stanley00> craigbass1976: It's impossible...
[12:32] <Calinou_> gparted
[12:33] <ubuntu_> can i get a list of installed apps in a system  from livecd?
[12:33] <arghx> claw: so reate free, unallocated space there. either by deleting a partition or resizing an exsiting one
[12:33] <craigbass1976> MonkeyDust, that's funny..
[12:33] <magik_> can anybody helps with madwifi ?
[12:33] <arghx> ubuntu_: chroot to the ubuntu installation and run "dpkg -l| grep ^ii"
[12:34] <arghx> magik_: madwifi is years old. use ath5k and ath9k
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> craigbass1976: syntax: ssh -Y [user]@[ip address] "[app]"
[12:34] <arghx> craigbass1976: I doubt what MonkeyDust tells you is the solution to your problem.
[12:34] <phlak_user> MonkeyDust: huh?
[12:34] <JadedJacob> I'll run a liveCD of 11.10, see what it can tell me about my internal ADSL modem
[12:34] <magik_> arghx: ^^ i am using ath9k and ath5k but i am having a network problems
[12:34] <ubuntu_> <arghx: how?
[12:34] <arghx> magik_: madwifi won't solve your problem
[12:35] <magik_> arghx: so very much people told me to install madwifi and i dont know how
[12:35] <craigbass1976> MonkeyDust, I was thinking ssh -l me -XC localhost and it worked.  That's how I've been doing stuff over the network.  I hadn't thought of localhost though...
[12:35] <Calinou_> found why, wasn't selecting the right partition!
[12:35] <arghx> ubuntu_: sudo chroot <ath to your mounted ubuntu installation>  and gthen the command from above
[12:35] <magik_> arghx: on windows 7 i had a perfect k¡connection ...
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> craigbass1976: if it works, it works, thumb up
[12:35] <Calinou_> I still can't reformat the main partition on the HDD
[12:36] <magik_> arghx: so can u help me install it ?
[12:36] <Calinou_> only a 31 kb partition,
[12:36] <arghx> magik_: no we cannot help people install windows 7
[12:36] <brauliobo> hello all. does anybody knows how to hack even lower lcd brightness levels? i really need a darker screen, and I know that I possible (due to an old bios bug). i run on a intel gma 3150 and asus 1215n. maybe force it in sysfs, or patch the acpi driver?
[12:36] <magik_> arghx: install madwifi o.o !
[12:36] <GirlyGirl> magik_: #windows will help you
[12:37] <magik_> arghx:  i will never go back to windows !!!
[12:37] <arghx> magik_: no. since madwifi cannot work under ubuntu anymore. there is no version for it for current linux kernels
[12:37] <arghx> magik_: madwifi is not the solution to your problem
[12:37] <magik_> arghx:  and that why ?
[12:37] <Calinou_> so what, phlak_user... can't edit the main (186GB) partition, only a 31kb one. I'm on the right disk this time
[12:38] <magik_> arghx:  so can you tell me the solucion =) ?
[12:38] <arghx> Calinou_: is the main partition unmounted or is it mounted in your current bootup?
[12:38] <Calinou_> it's a external, mounted HDD
[12:38] <Calinou_> should I unmount it? I don't use it
[12:38] <magik_> arghx: i have to install something or :S ?
[12:38] <Nova685> i need help with my printer setup, after i installed 11.10 from 11.04 i can no longer add network printers
[12:38] <arghx> Calinou_: unmount it if you want to work on its partition table
[12:38] <bhavesh> anyone using google chrome..?
[12:38] <Calinou_> ok
[12:39] <siouX_> update crashing the system ?
[12:39] <arghx> !anyone | bhavesh
[12:39] <Calinou_> yes, bhavesh, me, but not now... installing 11.10
 is there anyway to update my installed system from livecd?
[12:39] <Stanley00> ubuntu_: no,
[12:39] <Stanley00> ubuntu_: use alternate cd or via internet...
[12:39] <bhavesh> I cannot install it on Ubuntu 11.10.. Software centre says "Internal Error"
 even with chroot?
[12:39] <arghx> ubuntu_: yes. chroot again and apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:40] <Calinou_> formatting the partition to ext4... thanks :)
[12:40] <greyback> brauliobo: Could try "xbacklight" or else dig into /sys/class/backlight/....
[12:40] <Meubuntu> Testing
[12:40] <magik_> Calinou_: i think you have to add / wich is the root .. and linux cant works without it ^^
[12:40] <Nova685> is printer probing broke in 11.10? i cant seem to find network printers since i upgraded
[12:40] <Angelo> Hi! I'm new at ubuntu, could I help for the new release? I could packaging...
[12:41] <ubuntu_> \<arghx:it gives too many error most of them have to do with  /dev/null
[12:41] <magik_> Calinou_: then it should be etx4 / =)
[12:41] <arghx> ubuntu_: what does?
[12:41] <Stanley00> bhavesh: try install using apt-get, it will show more info if something went wrong.
[12:42] <arghx> ubuntu_: you bind mount /dev/ then inside your chroot
[12:42] <bhavesh> I have a deb, how can I install it using apt-get?
[12:42] <Calinou_> hmm, I can't mount the external HDD anymore
[12:42] <arghx> bhavesh: you cannot. use dpkg -i <file.deb> instead. via sudo of course
[12:42] <Calinou_> found why
[12:42] <wooter> bhavesh, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:42] <bhavesh> ok
[12:42] <magik_> Calinou_: sudo apt-get install gparted
[12:42] <Stanley00> bhavesh: ah, so you are going to install chome, not chromium, then use dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[12:42] <ubuntu_> <arghx:<Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main qdbus amd64 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8
[12:42] <ubuntu_>   Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[12:42] <magik_> Calinou_: gksudo gparted
[12:43] <Calinou_> now, I have "lost+found" folder on the new partition... seems to work
[12:43] <magik_> Calinou_: and when you finish restart
[12:43] <Calinou_> still read only, I'll try with gksudo nautilus
[12:43] <wooter> south africa, fuck yeah
[12:43] <Calinou_> ok
[12:43] <Nova685> is printer probing broke in 11.10? i cant seem to find network printers since i upgraded
[12:43] <magik_> Calinou_: ^^
[12:43] <arghx> !repeat | Nova685
[12:43] <Darael> For some reason, qdbus a) has itself, without a version qualifier, in its Conflicts: line, b) thus won't install and c) prompts apt to try to resolve this by removing something in the region of ninety packages.  What gives?
[12:43] <Nova685> >.>
[12:43] <arghx> Nova685: and doing a much better error description would increase your chances of help a lot too
[12:44] <Calinou_> I can edit stuff inside with gksudo... the  disk is empty, it only contained hidden mac files before anyway
[12:44] <Calinou_> time to copy I guess
[12:44] <e75> if i put the ubuntu image on a flash drive, can i reupgrade my 11.10 installation? it's broken and won't load into X.
[12:44] <Nova685> error is it doesnt even see anything...the old 11.04 could and installed i made the mistake of removing it to try to fix color scheme
[12:44] <Calinou_> wb, phlak_user
[12:44] <magik_> Calinou_: i guess :D ..
[12:44] <Nova685> and now cant readd it
[12:44] <e75> if i put the ubuntu image on a flash drive, can i reupgrade my 11.10 installation? it's broken and won't load into X. (while keeping my files and software installations intact)
[12:44] <Meubuntu> Testing
[12:44] <magik_> Calinou_: i have to go =)
[12:44] <Calinou_> bye
[12:45] <Calinou_> thanks
[12:45] <arghx> Meubuntu: stop it please
 so now what?
[12:45] <magik_> Calinou_: no problem =)
[12:45] <brauliobo> greyback: will try that
[12:45] <phlak_user> Calinou_: tx
[12:45] <craigbass1976> exit
[12:46] <craigbass1976> oops
[12:46] <phlak_user> sandra_: i tried the fix and it works now :)
[12:46] <Calinou_> pasting 52.7 GB of files, 170000 files... :o
[12:46] <phlak_user> Calinou_: great!
[12:46] <brauliobo> greyback: well, it returns 0.000, that is, already on the minimum
[12:46] <Calinou_> is the swap automatically created when you install ubuntu 11.10? since I'll remove everything on the current disk once the /home is copied
[12:46] <e75> i upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 but the upgrade went haywire, as in it locked up the interface when it wanted me to clean out the old files according to the update manager. so i just had to reboot. now i can't even load into X. i can switch terminals, and come here, but thats about it. dmesg, syslog, boot, etc logs don't have any useful information why it's hanging
[12:47] <sandra_> phlak_user, what version of the fix did you implement ?
[12:47] <Calinou_> also, 11.10 is scaring me according to people here :/
[12:47] <phlak_user> sandra_: i just did that copy thingy
[12:47] <arghx> e75: use a apt-get dis-upgrade
[12:47] <bhavesh_> Stanley00, Terminal says Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:47] <bhavesh_>  after "processing triggers for mandb"
[12:47] <Andril> hello all
[12:47] <Nova685> <~regretting upgradign to 11.10
[12:47] <Darael> For some reason, qdbus in Oneiric (which a /tonne/ of stuff seems to depend on) a) has itself, without a version qualifier, in its Conflicts: line, b) thus won't install and c) prompts apt to try to resolve this by removing something in the region of ninety packages.  What gives?
[12:48] <menomc> hi, I just upgraded my laptop to oneiric but I'm having a trouble with network manager and the wifi network of my office. it's called "101" but after adding it  the conneccection says SSID = "e", and then it spawns a new "101 %d" each time... all with bad SSID
[12:48] <arghx> bhavesh_: tell us the FIRST error, not the last one. if you don't know, pastebin the full output
[12:48] <arghx> bhavesh_: into a pastebin of course
[12:48] <s1> Nova685: why!
[12:48] <Stanley00> bhavesh_: can you pastebin ALL the message? and did you use sudo before the command?
[12:48] <bhavesh_> Stanley00, yea wait a sec
[12:48] <e75> arghx: already tried that. still hanging. last message i get while the o.s. is trying to load up unto X is starting timidity    ok. and then nothing more.
[12:48] <Nova685> energy managment SUX in 11.10 and printers no longer work
[12:48] <dhruvasagar> Hi, how do I increase the number of workspaces in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:48] <sandra_> phlak_user, do you mean you implemented this fix "sudo cp /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-2.0/libnautilus-gksu.so /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-3.0/"
[12:48] <Andril> just installed 11.10 and receiving "Checking Battery State" error - any help
[12:48] <alibo> Hello, when I updated my system there was an error and now I have a broken system that does not boot. I guess my mirror was not comletely updated yet. sudo dpkg --configure -a gives me a lot of dependency errors and at the end it outputs: Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[12:49] <phlak_user> sandra_: yes; logged out and then logged in again
[12:49] <Calinou_> dhruvasagar: look in the settings, it should be there
[12:49] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: install ccsm and you can set it there
[12:49] <Calinou_> if you use gnome fallback right click the workspaces icon
[12:49] <arghx> alibo: the first error is what is important, not the last
[12:49] <bhavesh_> Stanley00, arghx : http://pastebin.com/e2rq9ErE
[12:49] <brauliobo> greyback: everything on 0 already, need to set lower...
[12:49] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: ccsm ? I don't see that package
[12:50] <sandra_> phlak_user, let me know if you experience any glitches please.
[12:50] <dhruvasagar> Compiz is not working with 11:10
[12:50] <alibo> arghx: while updating it said exiting with error 127.
[12:50] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: it's compizconfig-system-manager
[12:50] <dhruvasagar> Calinou_: settings ? no there is nothing relevant thing unders settings for number of workspaces
[12:50] <s1> Nova685: I'm not sure what do you mean by "energy managment" , but what about the printers issue!?
[12:50] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: compiz is not working
[12:50] <arghx> alibo: I told you the FIRST error. not the last.
[12:50] <sandra_> brb fellow Ubuntu inmates.
[12:51] <s1> tyt.
[12:51] <arghx> bhavesh_: see line 7 and 8. and install the package it moans about
[12:51] <bhavesh_> So I need to first install all those missing packages ? libnss..?
[12:51] <arghx> bhavesh_: yes
[12:51] <bhavesh_> ok
[12:51] <Nova685> s1: i mean the battery life got cut in half on my laptop the instant i installed 11.10 cause 11.04 had better management
[12:51] <alibo> arghx: This was the first one. Sorry it was not while updating but doing the distro update/upgrade (don't know exact term for it)
[12:51] <wide_awake> hi, I've got a stupid question: how can I find out wtf is playing music, listed as "ALSA plug-in [npviewer.bin]" in Sound Preferences?
[12:52] <squig> wide_awake, thats a website
[12:52] <dhruvasagar> Compiz settings manager is not working in 11.10, can someone help me ?
[12:52] <wide_awake> squig, I can't find anything obvious in any open browser tabs :-/
[12:52] <s1> Nova685: Ah , then there must be a reason for that , don't you think! :-)
[12:52] <wide_awake> normally I'm not this dumb, I swear
[12:52] <crebro> greetings
[12:52] <Stanley00> !notwork | dhruvasagar
[12:52] <excedere> Should I be concerned that the upgrade tool couldn't add any of the ssl certificates?
[12:52] <enchilado> Slightly annoying problem; Nautilus crashes every time I open it. Anyone know about this?
[12:52] <e75> hmm. seems the 11.10 uninstall flgrx. now X won't start... ??? now what?
[12:52] <e75> **uninstalled
[12:53] <camil_> does anyone know how to display the fonts to use with a terminal
[12:53] <Stanley00> !not work | dhruvasagar
[12:53] <phlak_user> enchilado: launch it from a terminal and see if you get any errors
[12:53] <camil_> fc-list just gives a list
[12:53] <camil_> i don't know how to put in .Xdefaults
[12:53] <Nova685> s1: ya ive yet to find spind down hd in the power management and the processor is nonstop activity in 11.10 where it wasnt in 11.04
[12:53] <alibo> arghx: I would like to know if disabling Immediate-Configure is a good idea in this case?
[12:53] <enchilado> phlak_user: I get this, over and over: (nautilus:3149): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_value_get_object: assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_OBJECT (value)' failed
[12:54] <camil_> for example : -*-courier-medium-r-*--22-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1 (one that works)
[12:54] <s1> Nova685: you still can setup that in 11.10 , no!
[12:54] <crebro> has anyone updated to 11.10 yet?
[12:54] <Nova685> s1: not that ive found yet
[12:54] <enchilado> phlak_user: and then GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' does not contain a key named 'preview-sound'
[12:54] <e75> crebro: tried to
[12:54] <camil_> but how to change the name if i don't know the other fonts' exact name
[12:54] <crebro> oh tried to ?
[12:54] <bfreis> My old, GNOME 2, keyboard shortcuts are not working on GNOME Shell! I used to have mod4+e to open my home folder, but now mod4+e simply inserts "e" in the current text field (if I press mod4+e+e then it inserts an "e" and then opens the home folder)
[12:54] <s1> crebro: i have.
[12:54] <arghx> alibo: no it is not the first one, and you cannot disable debconf
[12:54] <crebro> @s1 how is it ?
[12:54] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: can you be more specific?
[12:55] <phlak_user> bfreis: you can go to keyboard settings and check if the shortcuts are still present
[12:55] <e75> crebro: it uninstalled my display driver i'm guessing and now the GUI can't start up because I don't have any display driver to run off of? I could be wrong in my assumption though.
[12:55] <bhavesh_> arghx, installing those packages automatically installed Google Chrome :) ty
[12:55] <Andril> crebro: yes - but i can't tell you because i am stuck with "Checking Battery State" error :(
[12:55] <crebro> try "startx" command
[12:55] <Nova685> s1: im also getting a kick outa how much the new battery calculations are wrong, atleast 11.04 didnt bother telling since it couldnt figure it out this one tells w/e it wants and is still wrong
[12:55] <s1> crebro: excellent , at least for me.
[12:55] <crebro> so there are quite a bit of bugs.
[12:55] <bfreis> phlak_user, I've configured all of them, the behaviour is exactly what I described
[12:56] <e75> crebro: already tried. "no screens found". no driver to work with.
[12:56] <enchilado> phlak_user: yeah, hundreds of errors. There are others as well, seemingly going farther than I can scroll back. A lot of them are the same. :/
[12:56] <Andril> nothin but more eror
[12:56] <arghx> e75: nvidia or fglrx? if so, move your xorg.conf files) out of the way and you can run X again
[12:56] <neo84> Hi All, need help
[12:57] <enchilado> neo84: it's probably best just to state your problem; if someone can help, they probably will.
[12:57] <crebro> i am about to upgrade in 3 hrs.
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> what's the trick to activate html 5 in FF, again?
[12:57] <e75> arghx: well it seems 11.10 removed the flgrx drivers. i think my system runs off of ati drivers though? could be wrong there though and it be nvidia
[12:57] <enchilado> neo84: if no one knows what the problem is, they won't be able to help :P
[12:57] <phlak_user> enchilado: gsettings should help you
[12:57] <bfreis> Damn, I shouldn't have installed Ubuntu 11.10... the user interface sucks hard!
[12:57] <e75> crebro: cross your fingers then
[12:57] <s1> Andril: stack some where booting up ..!
[12:57] <Nova685> so back to the original question is the printer probe broke cause i cant see printers even though i know there there and active
[12:57] <neo84> I have installed kubuntu-desktop, now I want to remove it, but when I do aptitude remove . It gives this error : $ sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <neo84> [sudo] password for varunvyas:
[12:57] <neo84> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:57] <tolmun> aohi
[12:57] <arghx> e75: it did not remove fglrx unless you installed them the wrong way
[12:57] <bfreis> All my customizations are gone!
[12:57] <bfreis> And impossible to recreate them!
[12:57] <Andril> yes and need help - please
[12:58] <arghx> e75: and lspci -nn will tell you what videocard you have
[12:58] <arghx> lspci -nn |grep -i vga
[12:58] <e75> arghx: yeah, ati video card
[12:58] <arghx> Andril: then state your actual problem or you never will get help
[12:59] <Andril> s1: upon booting a fresh install i am stuck at "Checking Battery State"
[12:59] <enchilado> phlak_user: oh?
[12:59] <neo84> I stated error now :)
[12:59] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: nothing happens on changing anything in compiz settings manager
[12:59] <alibo> arghx: These are the errors occuring: http://pastebin.com/iSw2FDSV
[12:59] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: like what setting?
[12:59] <bastidrazor> Flannel: i did not know this.
[12:59] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: any setting!
[12:59] <Andril> all worked fine with previous configuration was using 10.04.3 fine
[12:59] <bastidrazor> Flannel: err.. wrong channel
[12:59] <e75> arghx: nah. i was using the 11.04 upgrade manager. well my screensaver kicked on and then the upgrade manager conflicted with it. when it asked me if i wanted to remove the old obsolete packages i couldn't act and just had to reboot since the screen was locked without taking any input. when i rebooted, now X won't start. xorg.0.log tells me it cannot find flgrx
[13:00] <sandra_> bk
[13:00] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: like trying to enable window wobbly effets
[13:00] <Darael> For some reason, qdbus in Oneiric (which is a dependency of libqt4-dbus, which is in turn a dependency of /loads/ of things) a) has itself, without a version qualifier, in its Conflicts: line, b) thus won't install and c) prompts apt to try to resolve this by removing something in the region of ninety packages.  What gives?
[13:00] <alibo> arghx: If you could give me a pointer about how to work on it, I would be happy.
[13:00] <keanu> Alright, I'm pretty confused
[13:00] <e75> arghx: also i think i have a vague memory of the package manager wanting to remove flgrx or upgrade it or something
[13:01] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: window wobby? I dont know about that? maybe relogin or restart will help...
[13:01] <keanu> Upgraded to 11.10 last night, and mid upgrade, my wifi (AR9285 card) disconnected and wouldn't reconnect
[13:01] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: wobbly, it's one of the effects that makes windows wobble when you move them
[13:01] <phlak_user> enchilado: try this gsettings reset-recursively org.gnome.nautilus.preferences
[13:01] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: I have relogged in at least a dozen times since I upgraded to 11.10
[13:01] <crebro> 1
[13:02] <sandra_> phlak_user, I tried that solution but unfortunately for me when I right mouse click on a file i wish to open as administrator the nautilus box disappears does this happen to you ?
[13:02] <e75> is there a package for flgrx?
[13:02] <phlak_user> sandra_: no; it shows "Open As Administrator" way down in the list
[13:02] <Andril> i need help to resolve this error upon booting a fresh install i am stuck at "Checking Battery State"
[13:02] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: hmm, I dont know how well unity work with compiz. at least add more work space work, isnt it?
[13:02] <keanu> Upgrade completed, rebooted, and still nothing.  the network's detected, but dmesg shows: wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:26:cb:17:bd:41 by local choice (reason=3)
[13:02] <Gnoy> hello! I have just install nvdia driver in 11.10, but now I can't change the brightness. it How to fix it?
[13:03] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: but where do I add them ? There is no option for adding workspaces I searched and also did an advanced search
[13:03] <sandra_> phlak_user have you tried opening system file folder with it yet ?
[13:03] <crebro> i am sorry if this is a stupid question. everyone here is on ubuntuforums.org and do they use their real forum usernames.
[13:03] <keanu> I can tether through my phone fine, but can't connect to my home wifi network.  Rebooted router and laptop, tried older kernels, etc. No luck
[13:03] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: just a sec, I need a search :d
[13:03] <phlak_user> sandra_: yes; i opened /etc/apt/sources.list; edited it and saved it successfull
[13:03] <phlak_user> sandra_: successfully*
[13:03] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: ok
[13:04] <e75> well fglrx isn't uninstalled. i've just been typing it wrong the entire time. so i'm guessing just a .conf issue? hmm
[13:04] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: It's in general opition,
[13:04] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: the last tab as I see it
[13:04] <enchilado> phlak_user: same errors :/
[13:04] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: ok found it
[13:04] <sandra_> phlak_user, well I'm so glad it worked for you it's buggy for me I wonder if there is a way to undo it  ?
[13:04] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: thanks, I was search for 'workspace'
[13:04] <s1> Andril: i'd try one of those GRUB paratmeter options.
[13:04] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: :D
  any idea friend
[13:04] <sandra_> let me give it another try
[13:05] <phlak_user> sandra_: just remove the copied .so
[13:05] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: somehow now even wobbly windows seems to be working! I love that effect :D
[13:05] <phlak_user> sandra_: uninstall nautilus-gksu and reinstall it
[13:05] <bfreis> holy crap, gnome shell is soooo buggy!
[13:05] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: glad it works :))
[13:06] <Slashme> really?
[13:06] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: thanks, you should try it too, it's in extras :D
[13:06] <sandra_> I will try that
[13:06] <sandra_> phlak_user, I will try that brb hope this works lol
[13:06] <sandra_> *crossing my figners*
[13:06] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: thanks, I will look at it.
[13:06] <drapedup> I actually kind of like unity as my HTPC interface.
[13:06] <drapedup> Is that bad?
[13:07] <phlak_user> sandra_: atb
[13:07] <jiohdi> drapedup, the way of the future
[13:07] <DETERMINOLOGY> Still wondering how do you get wobbly windows to work..I pretty much got everything else i wanted set up on 11.10 just cant get the extra tweaks to work
[13:07] <enchilado> neo84: I don't actually know, but it sounds like a dpkg process was cancelled/crashed and you need to reset it so it works again; did you run the suggested command?
[13:07] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: btw, would you happen to know / understand what
[13:07] <keanu> update on wifi issue: I shut down network-manager and manually used iwconfig to connect to the wifi network.  It worked (although it's not something I'd prefer to do each time I connect)
[13:07] <neo84> yes
[13:08] <neo84> enchilado : Yes, i did
[13:08] <drapedup> jiohdi: I just upgraded my htpc from 11.04 to 11.10 and I like it. It's working very well as my HTPC setup. Nothing like using irssi on my 62" tv
[13:08] <neo84> Now I am trying it with synaptic
[13:08] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: what 'Alt+`' key is doing ? I used this key combination for a different thing in the past, now I can't use it anymore, the core system is supposedly doing something with it, it just highlights (borders) the current window, I don't understand what the f it is
[13:08] <jiohdi> drapedup, ipad and other pad users will find it very familiar... I prefer openbox, but I am old :)
[13:09] <qin> keanu: If it is psk, just edit: /etc/network/interfaces
[13:09] <keanu> Oh, forgot to mention that - it's an open network
[13:09] <celltech> Would server 11.04 work just like regular 11.04
[13:09] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: It depend on what exactly key combination. can you give an example?
[13:09] <Andril> s1: i am a noob - and screwed till the http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=13&ved=0CCoQFjACOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmarkmail.org%2Fmessage%2Fwyhn754g52bwwivf&ei=GDSYTo7lDueMsAKh2t3vBA&usg=AFQjCNGFkue9AINXSZKHO3_lpuPRKY1xOA is fixed - there are countless remedies and none work
[13:10] <qin> keanu: Same think (from setting point of view)
[13:10] <qin> Andril: try goo.gl to shorten links
[13:10] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: Alt+` that's the key combination I am talking about.
[13:10] <craigbass1976> MonkeyDust, I run the  ssh -Y [user]@[ip address] "[app]" and it's fine.  I'd like a shell script to do it that I can launch with an icon.  Is it possible for the terminal to just close when I shut whatever app I started?
[13:10] <neo84> enchilado: That's stuck too :(
[13:11] <alberto> Hello everyone
[13:11] <Andril> sorry it was a copy and paste error
[13:11] <mx> hello there, hello to you too, alberto
[13:11] <alberto> How are you all?
[13:12] <drapedup> is there a remote desktop/vnc server/client that is fast enough over gigabit wired ethernet to stream 1080p+ video?
[13:12] <enchilado> neo84: Hrm. Well, as I said, I can't really help... good luck with that :/
[13:12] <mx> fine, thank you. yourself ?
[13:12] <drapedup> xrdp is not doing it for me. I tried nx, but it didn't work the way I wanted it to either
[13:12] <neo84> enchilado: :|
[13:12] <alberto> Fine too, thank you.
[13:12] <phlak_user> drapedup: why would you use vnc to do that?
[13:12] <mx> great (:
[13:12] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: wow, it make me switching through app window
[13:12] <qin> drapedup: vlc is designed for streaming
[13:13] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: it opens some sort of window with apps, but further pressing of Alt+` isn't doing anything
[13:13] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: say, if you have 2 window of xchat, you will go through that 2 windows via ALT+` :D
[13:13] <drapedup> phlak_user: I just want to know if it's possible.
[13:13] <alberto> Has any of you already installed Ubuntu 11.10?
[13:13] <phlak_user> alberto: yes
[13:13] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: Oh My!
[13:13] <mx> weekend is close again, the sun is shining (at least here), so everything is alright!
[13:13] <alberto> I guess everybody's asking the same question but... Will we ever be able to go back to Gnome 2?
[13:13] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: I was hitting my head on the walls trying to figure out what the hell it is...
[13:13] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: well at least my key combination is being used for a good purpose...
[13:14] <SPeku_> why cant i find netbeans in software center? i have ubuntu 11.10
[13:14] <Stanley00> dhruvasagar: thanks for that suggest, I have found that combination for along time =))
[13:14] <zipR4ND> hi all, just installed 11.10, having problems with samba domain logons
[13:14] <F1skr> i get this error when running the version of deluge that comes with 11.10: http://pastie.org/2694712 what could cause this?
[13:15] <zipR4ND> i guess the problem is the conversation from gdm to lightdm
[13:15] <albert_> hi, i want to install ubuntu via debootstrap. that runs fine. however, is there an easy way to do all the rest of the setup, ie. automatic configuring of fstab, etc, just like the original setup would do?
[13:15] <zipR4ND> how do i configure lightdm for samba domain logons & Home dir export from pdc?
[13:15] <kaolc2> Hey. I'm having trouble with networking under Ubuntu. Basically, any Windows boxes or phones that connect to my wireless network work "out of the box", but for some reason I am not getting the DNS server correctly set under my connection - it's getting set to 192168.0.1? Which I suspect is the problem. I manually set it to Google's, and upon reconnecting I got on IRC somehow, but websites still don't work. Any suggestions?
[13:16] <dhruvasagar> Stanley00: :)
[13:16] <phlak_user> kaolc2: using network-manager?
[13:16] <kaolc2> phlak_user: Yes
[13:16] <alberto> I guess everybody's asking the same question but... Will we ever be able to go back to Gnome 2?
[13:16] <kaolc2> I have no experience with manually setting everything up, shame on me
[13:16] <drapedup> Kallunki: that IP should be the address of your network gateway
[13:16] <drapedup> Kallunki: oops nick typo, sorry
[13:17] <Darael> alberto: Nope.  Upstream dropped it, and Ubuntu hasn't the resources to maintain a fock.
[13:17] <Burps> Hi : under hardy, why does "openssl req -batch [] -passin pass:foo" keeps askign me to "Enter PEM pass phrase" (while it doesn't with the other regular debian I have ..)
[13:17] <deebee_> !gnome2 | alberto
[13:17] <Darael> s/fock/fork/
[13:17] <bazhang> !notunity | alberto
[13:17] <mydogsnameisrudy> albert_,  yes install 11.04
[13:18] <kuchiku> i now can connect to the internet using the command " pon dsl-provider" is there an app that allow me to connect wihout using the command ?
[13:18] <scotty73> SPeku_: Netbeans -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbeans/+bug/822753
[13:18] <albert_> mydogsnameisrudy: what do you mean? why? I just need to configure fstab, etc
[13:18] <Pastulio> Hello everybody!
[13:19] <kaolc2> so now I've manually set my DNS to 8.8.8.8 and as I said, IRC loaded, but websites don
[13:19] <deebee_> albert_: He's confusing you with alberto
[13:19] <mydogsnameisrudy> albert_,  sorry that was for alberto
[13:19] <celltech> So I take it no one knows if ubuntu server 11.04 can be substituted for regular 11.04
[13:20] <tomodachi> anyone else noticed that there are no "icons" after the upgrade?
[13:20] <Pastulio> Where is the samba init script located on ubuntu? I looked for smbd and samba in /etc/init.d/ but can't find it.
[13:20] <Darael> celltech: Ubuntu Server uses the same repositories, but installs a different kernel by default, and a few things like that.
[13:20] <deebee_> celltech: You can use Ubuntu Server as a desktop OS, but the default kernel is optimised for server based tasks, and the GUI isn't installed by default
[13:20] <Henry01> I must restart... Ic ome back in few minutes.
[13:20] <celltech> I might wanna do that. cause it requires less ram to run
[13:20] <wolfric> what's the deal with the new ubuntu. how do i resize the toolbars at the bottom/top of the page on "ubuntu classic" aka gnome
[13:21] <wolfric> there's no right click
[13:21] <s1> Andril: can you get to a Console/tty at that point!
[13:21] <celltech> os 11.04 is 348mb and server 11.04 is only 128
[13:22] <phlak_user> celltech: thats because it doesnt have the display manager/desktop environment/office productivity suite/sound+media/graphics packages etc
[13:22] <Pastulio> I have a clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 amd 64. I have configured my /etc/samba/smb.conf file, but I am unable to find the startup script in ubuntu.
[13:22] <Pastulio> Does anybody know where this is located?
[13:22] <celltech> hmmm... would i be able to instal sound and video?
[13:23] <phlak_user> celltech: you can install whatever you want
[13:23] <celltech> So server is just a bare stripped down version of desktop. and I can put in only what I want and use? :D
[13:23] <deebee_> Pastulio: startup scripts are usually located in /etc/init.d/ . If you'd like to start/stop a service, just use the service command, "sudo service samaba start"
[13:24] <Darael> celltech: No.  It uses a different kernel.  Use the alternate CD, or mini.iso, to do a minimal install.
[13:24] <alberto> Is it possible to use Compiz with Gnome 3?
[13:24] <celltech> Yeah cause I just want normal desktop, sound, video playback. and my VM... I don't use all the other stuff
[13:24] <celltech> There's so much I don't need
[13:25] <Flannel> deebee_, Pastulio: daemon is smbd, so: sudo restart smbd (and apparently sudo restart nmbd) (https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html)
[13:25] <Pastulio> deebee_, I've looked for "samba" and "smbd" in /etc/init.d, but I cant find it. "service samba start" or "service smbd start" return "unrecognised service"
[13:25] <Darael> celltech: mini.iso has the advantage that it's about fifteen megs, and downloads the latest version of all packages from the server, so if there's been package updates one doesn't have to download the old versions that may be on the CD.
[13:25] <deebee_> Darael: Do as Darael suggested and use one of the alternate install CDs, rather than going for server
[13:26] <Darael> deebee_: Uh... :P
[13:26] <celltech> Nice. Does 11.10 have mini.iso?
[13:26] <Pastulio> deebee_, I am however running the desktop edition, but samba should be installed by default (configuring now via putty)
[13:26] <celltech> I have a thumbdrive and I'm willing to update :)
[13:26] <Darael> celltech: Almost certainly.
[13:26] <deebee_> Flannel: I was guessing on the daemon name :)
[13:26] <bfreis> How can I remove an application from the "Activities" suggestions when I type something? The actual problem is: when I open "Activities" and type "emacs", the first suggestion is "Emacs (text)", so I have to reach the "down" key to select "Emacs (X11)", which is really annoying
[13:26] <ironhalik> Hello, is there a way to make the lancher autohide? CCSM and ubuntu plugin seems to fail now
[13:26] <Andril> s1: yes i can
[13:27] <celltech> See I love linux and os upgrades cause all my media, pics, and music stay intact. You don't lose anything... and the OS upgrades
[13:27] <Pastulio> This is pretty confusing
[13:27] <Darael> celltech: yes, it does. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:27] <bfreis> Until yesterday, with 11.04, I used "Gnome-do", which used to learn my preferences... the Activities windows simply ignores my choices and keeps suggesting me the wrong things
[13:27] <Mjolinor> anyone tell me how to remove 11.10 back to 11.04 without reinstalling
[13:27] <bastidrazor> Mjolinor: you can not downgrade.
[13:27] <Andril> s1: trying a reinstall - if that doesn't work i am going to do like the masses and revert back to LTS
[13:27] <sandra_> phlak_user, well my nautilus is broken and I can't even get into the system file in order to remove the command we typed in lol
[13:28] <celltech> So the steps to getting 11.10 mini would be? cause I'd love to save disk space, and bare minimum instal
[13:28] <Mjolinor> so its a reinstall then
[13:28] <bastidrazor> Mjolinor: that it is.
[13:28] <deebee_> Pastulio: Have you double checked to make sure the package is installed? "dpkg -l | grep samba" (or whatever the package name is)
[13:28] <Mjolinor> ok, anyone knwo wehn it will be fixed so it works?
[13:28] <phlak_user> sandra_: cant you get into a terminal?
[13:28] <Pastulio> Apparently samba was not installed by default on ubuntu desktop
[13:28] <Pastulio> deebee_, I just apt-get installed it and now it works
[13:28] <keanu> qin, I think there's a NetworkManager regression of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/824260
[13:28] <phlak_user> sandra_: i can guide you on commandline
[13:28] <s1> Andril: nice , and have you tried one of those steps taking in this but .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/816646
[13:28] <sandra_> oh I can get into terminal I just don't know how to remove that command via the terminal.
[13:28] <deebee_> Pastulio: glad you got it sorted :)
[13:28] <Flannel> celltech: mini iso vs alternate iso won't save any "disk space" (well, except the six hundred megs or whatnot of the ISO that you download originally)
[13:28] <cba123> I just upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04, and the only issue I seem to be having is the theming looks odd.  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/510/screenshot003rd.png/ it happened in 11.04, but I'd just do "killall nautilus" and it'd fix.  Isn't working here.  Any advice?
[13:28] <Pastulio> deebee_, weird that all the directories were already created though, figured it would be installed. Thanks for the help
[13:29] <sandra_> phlak_user, I have the terminal open
[13:29] <Su-Ge> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop, but the Document Manager "Nautilus" keeps crash with error, "Segment fault". Anyone has the same problem with me?
[13:29] <phlak_user> sandra_: type this -> sudo apt-get remove nautilus-gksu
[13:29] <s1> Andril: if you going to reinstall .. GRUB paramteres worth a try.
[13:29] <riclas> is it possible to change the upgrade repo? my upgrade is failing because of a 403 forbidden on a package...
[13:29] <keanu> I started NetworkManager with --no-daemon and have the same error messages as listed in that ticket
[13:29] <andy> Hey guys, im using gnome3 and realised the panel at the bottom does not show all my applications.Is there any way to add that?
[13:29] <keanu> s/ticket/bug report/
[13:29] <Mjolinor> can soemone tell me where the applications are now in 11.10?
[13:30] <s1> lemm now if you going to.
[13:30] <celltech> ahh crap. does VirtualBox have a chat?
[13:30] <celltech> I need to increase the allowed disk space and I don't know how to do that
[13:30] <Pastulio> cellardoor, #vbox
[13:30] <phlak_user> Mjolinor: inside dash home, second icon at the bottom
[13:30] <sandra_> phlak_user, okay done anything else I need to type in at this point ?
[13:31] <deebee_> riclas: If you're using Update Manager, just click the "Settings..." button at the bottom
[13:31] <airtonix> andy: panel at the bottom? it's not supposed to show all your applications
[13:31] <phlak_user> sandra_: just type nautilus to confirm its working fine
[13:31] <Mjolinor> gese soem improvements these, from menu group applicatins you now have at least 10 mouse clicks to get where you want to go
[13:31] <airtonix> andy: unless i'm mistaken it's like the notification area from gnome2
[13:32] <phlak_user> Mjolinor: no need to click; just type in the search bar
[13:32] <andy> airtonix, ok I thought I may do as I saw other had that. (in screenshops), its got allarm clock and removable devices at the mo
[13:32] <Mjolinor> greast that, could jsut remove X and type what i wnat in a terminal;
[13:32] <airtonix> andy: mind showing me the screenshot?
[13:32] <riclas> ty deebee_
[13:33] <airtonix> andy: is it cba123s screenshot?
[13:33] <sandra_> phlak_user, sadly nautilus is not working w/out errors now.
[13:33] <andy> airtonix, ill find one quick, not sure with your last question
[13:33] <Semtex> does anyone know what is the diffrence between gnome-shell and gnome-session-fallback ?
[13:33] <phlak_user> sandra_: what are the errors?
[13:33] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I cannot install wine on 11.10...
[13:33] <Mjolinor> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[13:33] <Mjolinor> any help wuith that
[13:33] <sandra_> phlak_user, I clicked on file and nautilus box disapeared on me again lol
[13:34] <Mjolinor> I dont have an option to select GNOME classic on my login screen
[13:34] <Pici> !notunity | Mjolinor
[13:34] <Emmanuel_Chanel> When I try to install it, apt-get tries to delete important packages...
[13:34] <phlak_user> sandra_: were there any errors on the terminal from where you launched nautilus?
[13:34] <Semtex> Mjolinor, it is there
[13:34] <sandra_> lol looks like I'm going to have reload 11.10
[13:34] <Semtex> its the cog icon
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> Mjolinor: unity is the bug, mint is the solution
[13:35] <FireRailz> Hi. I currently have 11.04 installed via Wubi. Is there a way I can make another seperate installation of 11.10 usind wubi so I can tripple boot Windows, 11.04, and then 11.10?
[13:35] <arghx> Emmanuel_Chanel: where do you get wine from?
[13:35] <Emmanuel_Chanel> oops... I should say aptitude... apt-get doesn't when I see...
[13:35] <ellis_> Hi, does anyone know if there will be dependency errors in 11.04 if I remove some of the packaged software after install? e,g banshee, bluetooth etc
[13:35] <jiltdil> hi what happend to cheese? It's not working good
[13:35] <sandra_> phlak_user,(nautilus:2147): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_action_set_visible: assertion `GTK_IS_ACTION (action)' failed
[13:35] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I don't really know. default...
[13:35] <arghx> Emmanuel_Chanel: aptitude and apt-get use the same repos. exact same
[13:36] <phlak_user> sandra_: anything after that? like segmentation fault?
[13:36] <Semtex> but I would like to know what is the diffrence between gnome-shell and gnome-session-fallback ?
[13:36] <Luci4n0> goodnight all .. bye
[13:36] <arghx> Emmanuel_Chanel: apt-cache policy <wine package>
[13:36] <Calinou_> try to use the PPA Emmanuel_Chanel
[13:36] <enchilado> Luci4n0: bye!
[13:36] <Calinou_> Semtex: fallback == gnome 2, classic
[13:36] <Calinou_> shell == gnome 3 or whatever
[13:36] <freshinstall> Hi, I've just installed 11.10, all I get is a message "Mountall: disconnected from Plymouth"  Any suggestions?
[13:36] <sgs2_usr> anyone here has solution to bluetooth problem?
[13:37] <sgs2_usr> can't transfer file
[13:37] <Semtex> thanks Calinou_
[13:37] <puff> When is the next LTS release of Ubuntu coming out?
[13:37] <xranby> puff:  in about 6 months
[13:37] <arghx> puff: in april
[13:37] <Semtex> which one should I use if I want to stay with the 'ubuntu classic style'?
[13:37] <andy> airtonix, here are some screenshots http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Screenshots the applications seem to be at the bottom right
[13:37] <pokkerface> ubuntu 11.10 cant delete icons in the top bar using gnome classic
[13:37] <sean-w> Does anyone know why flash-plugininstaller still uses nspluginwrapper with flash 11 on amd64?
[13:37] <freshinstall> Semtex, install gnome-panel then choose "gnome classic"
[13:37] <Andril> S1: reinstalled and it booted - but i didn't check the 2 options in the beginning - so it seems to be the 3rd party items producing the error
[13:37] <jiltdil> cheese is giving bluish redish line , how to fix this?
[13:37] <sandra_> let me reboot I shall return
[13:38] <xranby> Semtex: if you install gnome-session  then you will also get a gnome "classic" login option
[13:38] <Semtex> yeah I also get that with gnome-shell and gnome-session-fallback ?
[13:38] <puff> arghx: Thanks.  I'm on 10.4 LTS but apparently my hardware (thinpad t520 with optimus/nvidia) has significant issues that need a more recent install.
[13:38] <pokkerface> how do you delete configure the top bar in ubuntu 11.10 using gnome classic?
[13:38] <Semtex> just wondering which is the best one
[13:38] <cutiyar> my new ubuntu does not turn off , just go to lock screen
[13:38] <Semtex> pokkerface: alt and right click
[13:39] <phlak_user> Semtex: if you want to save on screen real-estate; unity is the way to go
[13:39] <jiltdil> Any one have issue with webcam cheese?
[13:39] <pokkerface> Semtex do you play cod?
[13:39] <Calinou_> !ot | pokkerface
[13:39] <Semtex> pokkerface: no why?
[13:39] <pokkerface> your name
[13:39] <Semtex> phlak_user: I have a 22" monitor and 32" tv in dual screen
[13:39] <Semtex> I have enough screen estate!
[13:40] <phlak_user> Semtex: you surely do :)
[13:40] <Semtex> :)
[13:40] <Mjolinor> what  11.10 needs is a rename, it shoudl be called windows
[13:40] <pokkerface> why does evolution is not integrated to the right of the bar in gnome classic? is it possible to add it?
[13:40] <sean-w> What command do I use to re enable my 3rd party repos after the dist-upgrade?
[13:40] <Semtex> Mjolinor: did you find the gnome classic option?
[13:41] <phlak_user> pokkerface: evolution is not the default email client in 11.10; its thunderbird
[13:41] <e75> every time i try starting X, I get failed to load module flgrx. module does not exist. it's installed though and i even loaded it up with modprobe. then i get "no screens found".
[13:41] <airtonix> andy: yeah that's the notification area
[13:41] <cutiyar> my new ubuntu does not turn off , just go to lock screen
[13:41] <ntr0py> how can i set subpixel rendering in Gnome3?
[13:41] <Mjolinor> I iwll shortly, I keep haiving teo use hte on off button to shut it down as the kboard and mouse stop working
[13:41] <arghx> e75: dpkg -l |grep fglrx
[13:41] <sandra_> phlak_user, unfortunately nautilus is now busted lol
[13:41] <andy> airtonix, what applications should appear there?
[13:41] <airtonix> andy: there is in fact a gnome3 extension to have that positioned in the top right if you want
[13:41] <pokkerface> phlak_user: ok, but if i configure thunderbird, does it appearon the right at the top bar?
[13:42] <gnotaras> hello all. I want to download all the released updates (in deb package format) for a specific Ubuntu release. I want to store them in an external storage device and create local repository to use in a situation that internet access is not available.
[13:42] <airtonix> andy: typcially any application that has a notification icon
[13:42] <sandra_> phlak_user, what video card are you currently using ?
[13:42] <pokkerface> i had the mail there in 11.04
[13:42] <e75> arghx: yeah, it didn't list anything
[13:42] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable - white text on a very-light-grey background - in all themes but the High Contrast ones.
[13:42] <jiltdil> Hi can anyone  fixed  cheese ?
[13:42] <xranby> pokkerface: yes i will appear in the mail menu
[13:42] <gnotaras> could anyone give some insight about which directories contain the updates?
[13:42] <andy> airtonix, I thought many of my applications would be down there but there not
[13:42] <airtonix> andy: and i notice each empathy chat session with a user has an individual icon too
[13:42] <phlak_user> sandra_: its onboard (whatever comes with the EEEPC 1005H)
[13:42] <xranby> pokkerface: also if you recive a mail you will get a notification top right
[13:42] <gnotaras> i have experience with redhat based distror, but no experience with debian/ubuntu
[13:42] <arghx> e75: then I don't think you have any drivers for radeons from amd installed at all
[13:43] <arghx> gnotaras: which updates where?
[13:43] <pokkerface> why unity for a desktop????????????? only tell me that
[13:43] <zastaph> does 11.04 upgrade to 11.10 with sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[13:43] <andy> airtonix i literally just have to applications down there and would like my chat one and some others like my music player
[13:43] <pokkerface> it would be ok for a tablet nothin else
[13:43] <phlak_user> sandra_: and have also installed 11.10 on a lenovo ideapad s10-3
[13:43] <long> hello
[13:43] <sandra_> phlak_user, it looks like I'm going to have to reload 11.10 *sigh*
[13:43] <gnotaras> arghx: want to download the updated deb packages
[13:43] <arghx> gnotaras: all packages you download are in /var/cache/apt/archives/  but you should look into apt-cacher-ng, apt-proxy or similar
[13:43] <airtonix> andy: you don't "put" applications there manually
[13:43] <phlak_user> sandra_: why would you do that? just reinstall nautilus-gksu and try
[13:44] <Mjolinor> cheers for hte help, got a sort of recognisable desktop now. Just need to find how to do the things that have changed
[13:44] <sandra_> I did
[13:44] <sandra_> it's still not working
[13:44] <Semtex> zastaph: no you need to do dist-upgrade
[13:44] <e75> arghx: i've made sure fglrx is installed. modprobe -l even shows it loaded. or is flgrx just a generic driver? if so, not to bug, but do you know how to get ahold of ati drivers from cli?
[13:44] <phlak_user> sandra_: you removed; did you install?
[13:44] <andy> airtonix,i thought I may need to setup notifications for certain apps
[13:44] <deebee_> gnotaras: You can download the alternate CD iso and then run /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade and select "no" to using the network
[13:44] <sandra_> yes I did
[13:44] <JadedJacob> just found a driver cd for my internal adsl modem, it says 'linux drivers, 2.4.16 and 2.2.7'
[13:44] <Stanley00> zastaph: dont know, but update-manager  will
[13:44] <Mjolinor> think maybe it's time to move onto soemthing else, its a shame really. I havent used any other OS on any computer since version 6
[13:44] <s1> Andril: Cheers buddy .. Glad it worked for you this time , well done. / i've never check those 3rd party boxs.
[13:44] <zastaph> Semtex, and then I will have the same product as if I installed 11.10 from scratch?
[13:44] <gnotaras> arghx: no. i need to go to an ftp site and download them. eg: ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/ubuntu/
[13:44] <JadedJacob> I assume that's the kernel versions.
[13:44] <FireRailz> Can I keep my wubi installed 11.04 and install an additional installation of 11.10 thats seperate from my 11.04?
[13:45] <andy> airtonix, lol. I will leave it then, thanks.
[13:45] <long> Masturbation
[13:45] <Mjolinor> if it aint broke, don't fix it is a good lesson for Ubuntu developers I think
[13:45] <Semtex> zastaph: if the upgrade works correctly then yes
[13:45] <gnotaras> deebee_: where do i find a dvd with the updates so as to do the ``cdromupgrade`` ?
[13:45] <phlak_user> sandra_: can you run nautilus -c in a terminal (self check)
[13:45] <deebee_> gnotaras: 2 seconds
[13:45] <zastaph> Currently I run Ubuntu in vbox on windows host.. I didn't notice Wubi until now.. how do they compare? is it a custom virtualization engine?
[13:45] <Emmanuel_Chanel> arghx and Calinou: I could install wine by apt-get with no trouble... I don't know why aptitude occurs the problem...
[13:45] <arghx> e75: if there is no package at all installed which has "fglrx" as part of the name then the drivers are not installed. and you said there'd be none
[13:46] <arghx> Emmanuel_Chanel: what problem exactly?
[13:46] <arghx> !errors | Emmanuel_Chanel
[13:46] <freshinstall> Hi, I've just installed 11.10, all I get is a message "Mountall: disconnected from Plymouth"   X does not start - Any suggestions?
[13:46] <gnotaras> deebee_, arghx: thanks folks
[13:46] <Semtex> zastaph: no idea
[13:46] <Darael> zastaph: No, it isn't - it installs to a filesystem in a file on one's Windows partition.
[13:46] <Emmanuel_Chanel> ok...
[13:46] <long> Glans
[13:46] <deebee_> gnotaras: Grab the appropriate ISO with "alternate" in the name from this page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[13:46] <arghx> freshinstall: can you log in? can you run startx?
[13:46] <pokkerface> 11.04 was much faster than this
[13:46] <airtonix> andy: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html
[13:46] <gnotaras> deebee_: ok...
[13:46] <Darael> zastaph: When Ubuntu is running, after a Wubi install, Windows is not, but it's done in such a way that repartitioning the drive is not necessary.
[13:47] <freshinstall> arghx, yeah, startx works
[13:47] <e75> arghx: yeah, but fglrx is installed. i've reinstalled it just to maybe see if it'd fix a broken .conf file somewhere maybe.f
[13:47] <long> 允许输入拉丁字符的拼音
[13:47] <zastaph> Darael, ah so its actually dual boot?
[13:47] <long> Breast big,
[13:47] <deebee_> gnotaras: depending on whether you're running 32 or 64 bit
[13:47] <carsten> Hey, just upgraded to 10.11 and somehow youtube flickers like an insane, guess it's flash or sound problem, anyone has same problem? (Chrome browser)
[13:47] <arghx> e75: how exactly did you reinstall it?
[13:47] <ironhalik> !samba
[13:47] <neo84> Hi, I have uninstalled Kbuntu, still after boot i can see kbuntu sceen
[13:47] <andy> airtonix, thanks.I have banshee on there now. I just turned on notifications
[13:47] <deebee_> gnotaras: Use the torrents if you want a faster download
[13:47] <andy> airtonix, i will have a look at extentions :)
[13:47] <arghx> e75: and reinstalling will NEVER fix config files if they are broken
[13:48] <sandra_> phlak_user, root@HP-HDX-18-Notebook-PC:~/Desktop# nautilus
[13:48] <sandra_> Initializing nautilus-gdu extension
[13:48] <sandra_> ** Message: Initializing gksu extension...
[13:48] <sandra_> Initializing nautilus-open-terminal extension
[13:48] <sandra_> ** (nautilus:2263): DEBUG: Syncdaemon not running, waiting for it to start in NameOwnerChanged
[13:48] <sandra_> Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
[13:48] <FloodBot1> sandra_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:48] <arghx> neo84: what is your bootloader?
[13:48] <kpblk> !
[13:48] <Darael> zastaph: It's not the usual method of dual-booting, which requires partitioning the hard drive, but yes.  In effect.  There are a couple of minor issues that make it preferable to do a "proper" dual-boot if one is sufficiently confident.
[13:48] <e75> arghx: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flgrx
[13:48] <neo84> how o check
[13:48] <deebee_> gnotaras: use these instructions once you have the CD - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades#Upgrading_Using_the_Alternate_CD.2BAC8-DVD
[13:48] <airtonix> zastaph: a wubi install of ubuntu is reliant on the health of your windows ntfs partition... just something to think about (it actually makes use of grubs ability to load from other places than real partitions i think)
[13:48] <carsten> Anyone has problems with youtube after install 10.11 ?
[13:48] <s1> !paste
[13:48] <s1> !pastebin
[13:48] <neo84> arghx: how to check
[13:48] <s1> hmm.
[13:49] <sandra_> opps did I do something wrong ?
[13:49] <gnotaras> deebee_: maybe i didn't word it properly. I need to download the released updates that are not part of specific release. For instance, I need to download all the updates of the official 11.04 release
[13:49] <zastaph> i would prefer the grub way too.. wubi sounds a bit like a hack :)
[13:49] <arghx> neo84: where do you "see" kubuntu then?
[13:49] <zamba> i have huge problems with my desktop after upgrading to ubuntu 11.10.. first of, i use alt + f1, alt + f2, alt + f3 and so on to switch between workspaces
[13:49] <zipR4ND> anyone can help me with samba domain logons+exported user homes on lightdm ? can't get it to work in 11.10
[13:49] <carsten> sandra - read what ubottu says, paste.ubuntu.com
[13:49] <arghx> zastaph: it is. many people in here don't support wubi for a reason
[13:49] <sandra_> phlak_user, I hope that read out helps.
[13:49] <e75> arghx: modprobe -l |grep fglrx even shows fglrx =S
[13:49] <phlak_user> sandra_: you needed to use pastebin :)
[13:49] <airtonix> zipR4ND: are you followin a guide on hwo to do that ?
[13:49] <phlak_user> sandra_: also, why are you logged in as root?
[13:50] <neo84> argx : after boot when login page comes
[13:50] <deebee_> gnotaras: what are you actually trying to acheive though?
[13:50] <arghx> e75: that's the kernel driver only. which is only a very very small part of the driver. check your Xorg.0.log when it fails to run
[13:50] <zastaph> but so far Ubuntu runs fine in vbox.. but for my next computer I'll consider leaving Ubuntu as host, and windows as virtualized environment.. the problem is still gaming though.. I don't thinK I can use a windows license for both virtualization and native
[13:50] <Squeeb> Hi, i've updated to 11.10, re-installed the NVIDIA drivers and even though I can see that Xorg is using the 'nvidia' driver and checked that nvidia is listed in lsmod, the UI is practically unusable
[13:50] <zipR4ND> airtonix: no, i have working configs for pam, nss and gdm, but in 11.04 its broken
[13:50] <arghx> e75: and what's in your xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d/ ?
[13:50] <gnotaras> update a ubuntu installation without internet connection
[13:50] <Squeeb> I downloaded mesa-utils and ran glxgears only to find that I'm getting about 2FP S
[13:50] <zamba> i've switched to gnome classic, but all my terminals insist on having a menubar, even though the preferences says they shouldn't have
[13:50] <mediat0r> what's the name of the default graphical sound manager on ubuntu?
[13:50] <gnotaras> deebee_:
[13:50] <sandra_> phlak_user, it happens in root and regular user mode
[13:50] <airtonix> zipR4ND: ok just curious.
[13:50] <Squeeb> anybody having the same issue?
[13:50] <deebee_> gnotaras: As in update from 11.04 to 11.10?
[13:50] <FireRailz> does anyone know where i can find formation on installing a second wubi installed version of ubuntu i have 11.04 it works fine im nervous on upgrading i want to install 11.10 fresh alongside windows, and 11.04
[13:51] <arghx> Squeeb: reinstalled the drivers from where?
[13:51] <zipR4ND> does anyone no something about this lighdm?
[13:51] <airtonix> zipR4ND: you could use the webkit lightdm engine and make an ajax login
[13:51] <Andril> s1: thanks
[13:51] <jiltdil> Cheese is not working well , the pic quality is very bad  and it has greenish and some redish line .How to fix this?
[13:51] <Efrin> is it possible to have top bar in ubuntu in the bottom?
[13:51] <Squeeb> arghx: at first via aptitude
[13:51] <airtonix> zipR4ND: with jquery
[13:51] <phlak_user> sandra_: the errors that you seem to be getting are referring to some samba shares
[13:51] <Squeeb> then removed and tried via nvidia's direct download
[13:51] <neo84> arghx : i installed kbuntu-desktop
[13:51] <zipR4ND> airtonix: why?
[13:51] <airtonix> zipR4ND: just an option
[13:51] <Squeeb> same issue on both
[13:51] <zipR4ND> airtonix: my logons work, just it seems not to mount the user homes
[13:51] <anAngel> hello. how can i check logs or something why ubuntu hangs on startup/initialization?
[13:51] <Darael> zastaph: One can use a Windows licence for one machine at a time.  If it's an OEM licence, for one machine ever.  A VM is, for this purpose, a different machine to native.
[13:51] <zipR4ND> from the samba pdc
[13:51] <gnotaras> deebee_: no. just update it. I m not looking to upgrade to the new release
[13:51] <s1> !lighdm
[13:51] <e75> arghx: yeah xorg.0.log shows the same information. "fglrx does not exist; return 0" "no screens found"
[13:51] <deebee_> gnotaras: or are you wanting to apply the latest security/bug fix updates without switching release?
[13:51] <phlak_user> sandra_: can you pastebin the output as a normal user when you type nautilus -c?
[13:52] <gnotaras> deebee_: exactly that
[13:52] <arghx> e75: hence you have fglrx not installed
[13:52] <phlak_user> !pastebin | sandra_
[13:52] <airtonix> zipR4ND: i assume you are asking in #samba ?
[13:52] <sandra_> phlak_user, looks like there is a reload in my immediate future lol
[13:52] <e75> arghx: then how would i go about installing it?
[13:52] <Squeeb> arghx: Xorg appears to be using 50% cpu
[13:52] <gnotaras> deebee_: is this possible to download the security updates for 11.04?
[13:52] <Squeeb> it's like it's ignoring nvidia all together
[13:52] <zipR4ND> airtonix: no, it's a lightdm problem
[13:52] <cutiyar> any help?
[13:52] <zipR4ND> i can login my users on the console without problems
[13:52] <Nieros> all i've been hearing about lately is probelsm with lightdm
[13:52] <zastaph> Darael, so.. with non-OEM windows's its possible to run it both virtualized and native? it'll pass authentication on both?
[13:53] <galewolf> Hello!  My upgrade to 11.10 failed with many instances of the following error, followed by "system could be in an unusable state".  Any suggestions? "dpkg: error: configuration error: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1: unknown option 'foreign-architecture'"
[13:53] <arghx> e75: like any other package. name is "fglrx". e.g. use apt-get
[13:53] <anAngel> brb to try to restart the router once again
[13:53] <Darael> zastaph: With a retail licence, one is still supposed to have it installed on only one machine at a time.
[13:53] <deebee_> gnotaras: I'm not sure to be honest. It's not something I've done. Apologies for mis-understanding your question
[13:53] <arghx> Squeeb: I don't support nvidia.com packages (neither does this channel afaik). they break your distro
[13:53] <s1> win 14
[13:53] <arghx> Squeeb: I suggest you ask nvidia. channel #nvidia
[13:53] <Nieros> lol
[13:53] <Squeeb> arghx: even the ones packaged with ubuntu?
[13:53] <Squeeb> nvidia-173
[13:53] <e75> arghx: ... i've already done that, several times. apt-get install fglrx.
[13:53] <arghx> gnotaras: of course it is dowable
[13:53] <airtonix> zastaph: ? there is no virtualisation with wubi occuring
[13:53] <arghx> e75: dpkg -l fglrx
[13:54] <zastaph> I think gaming is preventing many people from going full Ubuntu :)
[13:54] <arghx> Squeeb: what nvidia chip do you have?
[13:54] <gnotaras> deebee_: no no. probably I worded it poorly. Thanks for the info though., I had no idea about that cdromupdate feature. ;)
[13:54] <Squeeb> 7100GS
[13:54] <s1> Err, zipR4ND .. you meant " lightdm " , not lighdm.
[13:54] <neo84> argx : to unistall i did aptitude remove kbuntu-desktop
[13:54] <zipR4ND> s1: yes,
[13:54] <zastaph> airtonix, no wasnt talking about wubi in that context
[13:54] <s1> !lightdm
[13:54] <deebee_> gnotaras: would this section have any tips that may help - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection
[13:54] <arghx> neo84: that's only a virtual package. uninstall the kdebase* package(s) for example
[13:55] <Darael> zastaph: To some extent, I concur.  Unfortunately, there's little we can do about it.  We could get more games - but we've got /loads/ already, and more all the time.
[13:55] <Nieros> so, I've done a full repair/ update/ etc etc and for some reason unity still isn't behaving properly.  I don't get a sidebar launcher, or the normal top bar.
[13:55] <gnotaras> arghx: which directory has them. i am confused
[13:55] <Nieros> everything works in a round about way
[13:55] <Nieros> but my basic interface is crippled
[13:55] <e75> arghx: yeah it shows fglrx
[13:55] <gnotaras> deebee_: thanks that will probably help me a lot .
[13:55] <arghx> gnotaras: which directory has what?
[13:55] <Squeeb> so is anyone else seeing this massive *lag* with the UI?
[13:55] <Nieros> anyone point me in the right direction to see what I can do? even if it's just the right questions to ask.
[13:55] <gnotaras> arghx: the security updates mate :)
[13:56] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ but the High Contrast ones are usable.  Problem is, /they/ are ugly.
[13:56] <osmosis> Did a clean install of 11.04 on my samsung series 9.  Trying to boot, just see my screen flashing active and inactive over and over. nothing appears on screen, just black. I think its EFI related. Any suggestions?
[13:56] <arghx> gnotaras: here for example: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/
[13:56] <Nieros> osmosis: if you do a ctrl+alt + 1 do you get a shell?
[13:57] <zipR4ND> Nieros:
[13:57] <andy> Is there a way to get a mail notification in the gnome shell notification area?
[13:57] <zipR4ND> oh, sorry, just teaching someone irc
[13:57] <phlak_user> Nieros: osmosis ctl+alt-f1
[13:57] <arghx> gnotaras: for what you want I suggest you look into apt-cacher-ng or apt-proxy and the like, but your choice
[13:57] <Nieros> haha
[13:57] <gnotaras> deebee_: very helpful document. thanks
[13:58] <osmosis> no shell.  i never get grub or anything. i see the disk access light going. appears to be some sort of loop
[13:58] <osmosis> i hear the system fan going on and off as well as if it is restarting
[13:58] <irocksu> hi are there any good resources on ubuntu update management?
[13:58] <gnotaras> arghx: but the actual deb packages are not there. Just metadata. This is different that what I expected. Please let me read the docs deebee_ pointed me at and I'll report back
[13:58] <Squeeb> god this is unusable
[13:58] <deebee_> gnotaras: I make no claims that it's good or correct advice, having not done it before :)
[13:58] <Squeeb> what happened?
[13:58] <Nieros> so it's stuck in a reboot loop- have you tried to do a grub repair? or booted a live disc to look at it
[13:58] <Squeeb> if I drag a window across my screen, it literally hangs for a few seconds
[13:59] <osmosis> Nielsen, not sure what to look for. Its a clean install. Dont know what would need to be repaired
[13:59] <irocksu> suppose an administrator wants to update certain packages on one machine and distribute this change afterwards to all other computers... how would he do that?
[13:59] <phlak_user> irocksu: aptoncd
[13:59] <phlak_user> !aptoncd
[14:00] <arghx> gnotaras: or that one :)
[14:00] <gnotaras> arghx: deebee_: this is probably the solution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[14:00] <qjcg> anyone know if there have been changes to preseeding in 11.10?
[14:00] <deebee_> gnotaras: also see the suggestion that phlak_user just made to irocksu for another idea :)
[14:00] <irocksu> phlak_user: i will look into that
[14:00] <irocksu> thanks
[14:00] <Squeeb> !nvidia
[14:01] <gnotaras> deebee_: interesting too. thanks
[14:01] <pokkerface> i 11.04 i had integrated the mail all the time... how can i do this in 11.10?
[14:01] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ but the High Contrast ones are usable.  Problem is, /they/ are ugly.  Any ideas how I can get those elements looking as they ought to?
[14:01] <pokkerface> seems that i have to have opened thunderbird to be notified with new mail
[14:01] <Squeeb> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, world war has broken out
[14:02] <deebee_> Darael: I don't know for sure, but gnome-tweak-tool may provide you with some extra options to tweak that may allow you to fix it
[14:02] <Companion> Squeeb, I blame you!
[14:02] <s1> zipR4ND: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[14:02] <jiltdil> Cheese is showing image in bad manner , blueish and rediah type how to fix this?
[14:02] <Darael> deebee_: I'll look into it.  Thanks.
[14:02] <Squeeb> wasn't me, I just clicked on the friendly "Upgrade now, nothing will go wrong" button
[14:03] <Squeeb> and now all hell's broken loose
[14:03] <TheProf> Hello - Hope everyone is well.  I'm running 11.04 and I wanted to set up a common shared folder among all the users on my computer so they can read and write to it. What's the correct way to do so please?
[14:03] <Squeeb> !sharing
[14:03] <Squeeb> bleh
[14:03] <s1> LightDM , didn't make it to the bot yet.
[14:03] <freshinstall> well the answer to my question was <alt> <f1> - log in as root, startx, remove nvidia proprietary driver and reboot. x started ok.  machine is HP elitebook 8540p FYI.
[14:03] <freshinstall> have a good night/day ppl
[14:03] <Squeeb> lightdm definitely seems like hatred
[14:03] <Squeeb> :/
[14:03] <Squeeb> pure evil
[14:03] <JadedJacob> Hi, if setup correctly is Linux kernel 2.4.16 secure?
[14:04] <TheProf> Squeeb, no bot response for sharing?
[14:04] <popsch> did anyone get the shoutcast plugin to work with rhythmbox? http://code.google.com/p/rhythmbox-shoutcast/wiki/HOWTO_Install
[14:04] <Squeeb> nope
[14:04] <Squeeb> tbh
[14:04] <Squeeb> it's probably
[14:04] <Squeeb> just easier to make a folder and chmod it 777
[14:04] <Squeeb> :P
[14:04] <computer_> So is there a fix for a Laptop fan being full on all the time with 11.10?
[14:04] <pokkerface> is it possible to integrate email to the top bar at the right in gnome classic 11.10 ?seems that i have to have opened thunderbird to be notified with new mail	
[14:04] <TheProf> Squeeb, it's a closed network so that might work.  Just create a shortcut on the desktops to that folder?
[14:05] <Squeeb> you want them to have a shared desktop ?
[14:05] <phlak_user> JadedJacob: define secure
[14:05]  * Companion riddles on Squeeb 
[14:05] <Pici> TheProf: Create a folder somewhere, and set group ownership so that all of the users that you want to use it are in that same group.
[14:05] <Darael> JadedJacob: The only completely secure computer is encased in concrete with no connections to anything.  However, it may be worth looking up "linux 2.4.16 known security issues" - if nothing turns up, then assume it's reasonably secure.
[14:05] <TheProf> Squeeb, not shared desktop - just a link to the folder from their desktop
[14:06] <jatt> which is the best way of installing gnome 3 in maverick?
[14:06] <Squeeb> Wahayyy.. I appear to be in some sort of business with the graphics problem
[14:06] <Squeeb> Switch to GDM instead of lightdm
[14:06] <Squeeb> re-install nvidia-173
[14:06] <TheProf> Pici, OK so all my users are part of the group 'teachers' so I just assign the group's +R+W to teachers correct?
[14:06] <Squeeb> choose Ubuntu-2D
[14:06] <deebee_> Darael: what if I have a really big hammer? :)
[14:06] <Squeeb> TheProf: yes
[14:06] <p1l0t> Oneric Ocelot is Owesome! This old computer does better with the 2D mode though. Cant wait to load it on my netbook at full bore!
[14:06] <tsaknorris> i need more assistance to autologin with xubuntu ( ihave ubuntu also but i want that xubuntu is first one)
[14:06] <lehikol2> cool
[14:07] <Squeeb> mkdir -p /some/shared/dir && chown -R :teachers /some/shared/dir && chmod -R g+ws /home/shared/dir
[14:07] <artzra> search to install Card ATI Radeon HD 5450  on kernel 3.0.0-0300rc2
[14:07] <scotty^> p1lOt - The Unity interface is better than it was in Natty Narwhal?
[14:07] <Squeeb> stickybit (+s) will make sure any new dirs created inherit the group
[14:08] <Squeeb> artzra:
[14:08] <Squeeb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:08] <Squeeb> possibly?
[14:08] <galewolf> upgrade to 11.10 failed with many instances of the following error "dpkg: error: configuration error: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1: unknown option 'foreign-architecture'" Any suggestions?
[14:08] <artzra> Squeeb : BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[14:09] <Squeeb> really?
[14:09] <TheProf> Squeeb, OK I will check the sticky bit also.
[14:09] <Squeeb> lolwut
[14:09] <TheProf> Pici - thanks.
[14:09] <scotty^> The Radeon 5450 should run well on kernel 2.6.38 - it certainly does from the Natty Live CD
[14:09] <Squeeb> TheProf: yea it's useful for inherting group permissions if you're not using some fancy ACL filesystem addon
[14:09] <Darael> deebee_: Then thou wilt damage the machine.  Besides, I never specified that was the /only/ security.
[14:09] <scotty^> If u want to use a 3.0 kernel u should use final or 3.01 instead of rc2
[14:09] <artzra> ok i try again
[14:10] <deebee_> Darael: Loosen up, I'm kidding :)
[14:10] <JadedJacob> Darael: thank you
[14:10] <Squeeb> Ok, yep .. using "Ubuntu" as your window manager seems to destroy graphics
[14:10] <Squeeb> Ubuntu 2D works
[14:10] <xuser1> hi
[14:10] <Darael> deebee_: I know.  I'm rather enjoying the idea of someone trying to break into the concrete block with an enormous hammer right now :P
[14:10] <deebee_> Darael: :)
[14:11] <xuser1> has ubun 11.10 gnome instaled by default?
[14:11] <Squeeb> xuser1: yea
[14:11] <livingdaylight> Hi
[14:11] <xuser1> ubuntu 11.10 have unity and gnome?
[14:11] <Darael> xuser1: Not gnome2, since that's no longer supported.  But gnome3 is there.
[14:11] <xuser1> :-D
[14:11] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me what is the best screencapture for Ubuntu/linux? most like jing are windows-only compatible
[14:12] <xuser1> in know gnome 3
[14:12] <Darael> !best | livingdaylight, thou shouldst be familiar with this one by now...
[14:12] <xuser1> but can i select to boot into gnome 3 ?
[14:12] <zamba> where's the list of locales that should be generated?
[14:12] <bbrandon> Using 11.10, is there anyway I can get the taskbar to look more like the one in 11.04?
[14:13] <inzzz> hi guys, is there a way to never hide the launcher, even when maximizing a window?
[14:13] <livingdaylight> Does anyone know of any screencapture apps compatibel with Ubuntu/linux ?
[14:13] <xuser1> O:-)
[14:14] <ntr0py> 11.10 is badly broken and wont fix
[14:14] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: recordmydesktop
[14:14] <coz_> livingdaylight,  there is  gtk-recordmydesktop
[14:14] <Darael> bbrandon: If thou art looking for the ones that were also in older versions, which is to say the bars across the top and bottom, then thou shouldst install the gnome-panel package and use Gnome Fallback for thy session.
[14:14] <xuser1> livingdaylight: yes recordmydesktop
[14:14] <xuser1> or
[14:14] <artzra> ok i have not unisntall before !!!!
[14:14] <livingdaylight> is that a screencapture tool for copy and pasting screenshots?
[14:14] <artzra> reboot
[14:14] <Darael> ntr0py: Take it to -offtopic, please.  This is a support channel.
[14:14] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: oh actually that is for video
[14:15] <coz_> livingdaylight,  have  you pressed  "printscreen"  it should give you a screenshot
[14:15] <Darael> ntr0py: If I misread that, my apologies.
[14:15] <xuser1> just press print screen  key and it takes a screenshot
[14:15] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: try shutter if you want a dedicated app
[14:15] <xuser1> wait
[14:15] <livingdaylight> coz_, yes, not the default ubuntu one... that saves to Desktop. I want something I can copy and paste
[14:16] <coz_> livingdaylight,  mm... let me check for other apps hold on
[14:16] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: why?
[14:16] <livingdaylight> MikeChelen, coz I share screen shots all day
[14:16] <gumbo> Can I upgrade ubuntu from the .iso? if so, how?
[14:16] <livingdaylight> and saving them to Desktop is tedious
[14:16] <xuser1> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ZDesktopRecorder+(Nautilus+Script)?content=138723
[14:16] <coz_> livingdaylight,  look at   "shutter"
[14:16] <livingdaylight> shutter, ok
[14:16] <Stanley00> !upgrade | gumbo
[14:17] <Squeeb> lol 11.10 has so many bugs
[14:17] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: why using copy+paste?
[14:17] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ but the High Contrast ones are usable.  Problem is, /they/ are ugly.  Any ideas how I can get those elements looking as they ought to?  I've tried gnome-tweak-tool but it doesn't have a suitable option.
[14:17] <livingdaylight> MikeChelen, to share
[14:17] <xxiao> does ubuntu-one support browser access like dropbox?
[14:17] <gumbo> ubottu: thanks
[14:17] <Darael> xxiao: Yes, indeed, it does.  http://one.ubuntu.com
[14:17] <Pastulio> Does anybody know which service to reset on a windows machine to require reauthentication with samba?
[14:18] <xxiao> don't want to install client on all the machines
[14:18] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: how are you sharing them that requires copy+paste? why saving the file to desktop not working
[14:18] <Pastulio> have done some googling, but found nothing so far
[14:18] <MikeChelen> *why is
[14:18] <xxiao> Darael: it's not obvious from their document though. thanks
[14:19] <livingdaylight> MikeChelen, sving to desktop just to then upload is time-consuming. Plus people prefer having a link they can opoen
[14:19] <livingdaylight> sharing over IM
[14:19] <mfilipe> I don't understand. why doesn't my unity hibernate?
[14:19] <shadow_X> how can i add repo. of ubuntu 11.04?
[14:20] <shadow_X> repositories i mean
[14:20] <_trine> .Xauthorityis empty
[14:20] <_trine> in johng
[14:20] <Darael> shadow_X: Couldst thou clarify?  Dost thou desire to add the Natty repos to some other system, or to add a repository to Natty?
[14:20] <xuser1> livingdaylight: instant messaging?
[14:20] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: oh ok, you could try pointing the default save directory to a dropbox/ubuntuone public directory and then sharing that link directly
[14:20] <Darael> shadow_X: If the former, what other system and why?
[14:20] <livingdaylight> xuser1, yes
[14:20] <livingdaylight> MikeChelen, too slow
[14:20] <osmosis> Nielsen, im booted off the live usb now. Any ideas what I can troubleshoot?
[14:21] <shadow_X> for other apps to be updated because they are so outdated :D
[14:21] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: are you pasting the pic into the im or sending a link in the im?
[14:21] <livingdaylight> sending a link
[14:22] <MikeChelen> livingdaylight: it would be the same number of clicks then. in each case you press some button for screenshot, then copy+paste a link
[14:22] <osmosis> gparted shows a fat16 (efi)  and an ext4, and an unknown (swap)
[14:22] <Darael> shadow_X: Using a repository from one release with a different release is likely to cause trouble.  Why not just upgrade to Natty?  Or even to Oneiric...
[14:22] <xxiao> my ubuntuone experience did not go well, authorize code did not go through(timeout), i am having a hard time to just login
[14:22] <xuser1> http://seechrisblog.com/2010/03/27/simple-secure-screenshot-sharing-for-linux/
[14:22]  * cce is unable to start unity-2d-panel
[14:22] <cce> unity-2d-panel: [FATAL] Settings schema 'com.canonical.Unity2d.Panel' is not installed
[14:22] <cce> Any ideas?
[14:22] <livingdaylight> MikeChelen, no
[14:22] <shadow_X> i don't want to upgrade because it's bloody time consuming for my netbook
[14:22] <xxiao> on the other hand if canonical can do this one job well, see as good as dropbox, it will be super successful along
[14:23] <MikeChelen> xuser1: that is basically what i was suggesting except using dropbox/ubuntuone instead of sshfs
[14:23] <lvh> Hi! Are there Ubuntu packages for node.js/npm anywhere I can/should use?
[14:23] <shadow_X> i just want to update and upgrade the apps i use the most
[14:23] <xuser1> ok
[14:23] <xxiao> 504 Gateway Time-out --- it's a shame--- bye ubuntu one
[14:23] <xopey> cce: can you manually install unity-2d-panel again with a force command?
[14:24] <cce> xopey: how do you do that?
[14:24] <MikeChelen> lvh: probably better off to clone npm from git
[14:24] <troydm> i have created a pool using mkfs.btrfs -L pool1 -d raid1 -m raid1 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc out of 2 2Gig devices
[14:24] <troydm> why is that it creates a pool of size 4 gigs
[14:24] <troydm> ?
[14:24] <Darael> shadow_X: As is say, using a repository from a later release on an earlier one is a) asking for trouble and b) highly unsupported.  Look into the existence of backports PPAs for the apps in question instead.
[14:25] <cce> xoepy: I'm kinda new to linux (old FreeBSD head)
[14:25] <scarleo> Hi, I can no longer mount my nfs share in Oneiric, it mounted fine in Natty. What can I do?
[14:25] <MrSassyPants> ok, so xboard doesn't work, any other chess apps?
[14:25] <cce> apt-get -f install unity-2d-panel doesn't fix it
[14:25] <matrix3000> Does anyone have any good Ubuntu Cloud information
[14:25] <cutiyar> how to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 with usb Disk?
[14:26] <Darael> troydm: Not that thou wilt /definitely/ not get an answer to that in here, but one might be forthcoming rather faster in #btrfs.
[14:26] <livingdaylight> MikeChelen, http://clip2net.com/s/1eZn4
[14:26] <scarleo> I just get a access denied by server, but it works just fine on another computer
[14:26] <waring> hi, just got a new dell vostro 3550, trying to setup ubuntu lucid, but unable to find drivers
[14:26] <Darael> cce: apt-get reinstall unity-2d-panel, perhaps?  Just an idea.
[14:26] <waring> any pointers?
[14:26] <troydm> Darael: thx
[14:27] <xuser1> livingdaylight:  if you want share screenshots via IM . why you do not use photosharing from your im client?
[14:27] <galewolf> Can someone help with an Oneiric upgrade failure?
[14:27] <livingdaylight> oh, boy
[14:27] <scarleo> waring, what drivers? Is something not working?
[14:27] <TUBii> is it possible that 11.10 desctop torrent is not working?? im not a n00b, i used to DL from there, and its from the official site!
[14:27] <livingdaylight> is skype IM?
[14:27] <cce> Darael: "Invalid operation reinstall"
[14:27] <waring> scarleo, need driver for display, wireless
[14:28] <Darael> cce: apt-get --reinstall install, then.
[14:28] <Darael> galewolf: The way we work in here is that we ask thee to describe the issue in reasonable detail, and then someone who thinks they can deal with that particular issue will respond.  Please give more info.
[14:28] <cce> Darael: ok, that re-installed it, but same error message
[14:28] <xuser1> yes i thinkskype is im
[14:28] <galewolf> upgrade to 11.10 failed with many instances of the following error "dpkg: error: configuration error: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1: unknown option 'foreign-architecture'" Any suggestions?
[14:28] <cce> unity-2d-panel: [FATAL] Settings schema 'com.canonical.Unity2d.Panel' is not installed
[14:28] <scarleo> warfaren, why? What is the problem?
[14:29] <livingdaylight> I just need a good screen capture client that is compatible with Linux, not 100 other ways I could do it instead. Jing would be nice, but its not available to Linux users. I will try Shutter - thanks everyone.
[14:29] <ntr0py> Where can i set subpixel order for font rendering?
[14:29] <Darael> cce: Hmm, dunno then.  I would have thought that might have done the schema install, but it must be meant to come from elsewhere.  Sorry, no idea.
[14:29] <scarleo> waring, does it not work after install?
[14:29] <xuser1> ok
[14:29] <shadow_X> Darael: just give me what i ask :D i will only try, how could i add the repos of natty to my meverick?
[14:29] <livingdaylight> xuser1, its not just about the screen capture its what I can do with it. like draw, make shapes, and write notes...
[14:29] <Squeeb> Hi
[14:30] <Squeeb> I seem to have lost my "logout" menu in the top right hand corne
[14:30] <Squeeb> along with the clock
[14:30] <waring> scarleo: my display sucks right now, not able to increase it to the screen's full resolution, need the driver for that
[14:30] <Squeeb> and all the other stuff that was there
[14:30] <Squeeb> how do I bring it back?
[14:30] <xuser1> you can add some effects in videoeditor
[14:30] <waring> scarleo: wireless not working at all though
[14:30] <Pastulio> Does anybody know how to clear smb credentials on a windows machine?
[14:30] <waring> doesn't show in ifconfig, iwconfig
[14:30] <xuser1> a screen capture app is just for screen rec.
[14:31] <Pastulio> I remember having to reset a service, but can't remember which
[14:31] <Pastulio> been on google for some time now
[14:31] <scarleo> waring, Did you try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[14:31] <baudits> Im new to ubuntu. I tried to checkout some files from CVS. But i get a:  "cvs checkout: failed to obtain history lock in repository ....." error. can anyone explain it to me?
[14:31] <TUBii> hi
[14:31] <Darael> shadow_X: Add a new entry for a repository (the Software Sources tool can be launched from the Software Centre, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list) with "natty" instead of "maverick" wherever it appears.  However, thou wilt /not/ get support for this if thou goest ahead with it.  Just a warning.
[14:31] <cce> Darael: ok, so I'm up a creek without a paddle then with unity-2d-panel
[14:31] <wcchandler> anybody run ubuntu friendly on 11.10?
[14:32] <cutiyar> how to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 with usb Disk?
[14:32] <wcchandler> can it run from live disk?
[14:32] <TUBii> torrent from ubuntu.com is NOT working! pls help
[14:32] <jatt> 11.10???
[14:32] <TUBii> y
[14:32]  * cce wonders how to list package dependendies, perhaps if I re-installed the panel's dependencies?
[14:32] <scarleo> waring, what model is your NIC?
[14:32] <shadow_X> darael: thanks pal,, but how about by terminal?
[14:32] <Darael> cutiyar: Use the USB-creator, or similar, to get the Alternate CD on a USB stick, and then do a cdromupgrade.  One moment...
[14:32] <Darael> shadow_X: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list and do much the same thing.
[14:33] <xuser1>  Darael: unetbootin
[14:33] <Efrin> Is it possible to use gnome 2.x in ubuntu 11.10?
[14:33] <xuser1> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:33] <Darael> xuser1: That works.  Not my issue, though :)
[14:33] <waring> scarleo, lspci | grep Network  gives the output : Network controller: Intel Corporation Device 008a (rev 34)
[14:33] <cutiyar> Darael, i burned Desktop 11.04 not Alternate to burn , then i can upgrade from booting?
[14:34] <Darael> cutiyar: No, the Desktop CD cannot be used to run an upgrade, short of reinstalling over the top.
[14:34] <genii-around> ntr0py: Probably there is some setting you can make in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
[14:34] <sanu01> guys how to install gnome 3.2 in ubuntu 11.10? will it break my system if i install it?
[14:34] <kuchiku> anyone know how to permanently override my dsl dns server ?
[14:34] <Squeeb> kuchiku: edit our /etc/resolv.conf
[14:34] <Squeeb> your *
[14:34] <tsaknorris> maybe i could just sudo update-rc-d -f lightdm remove....
[14:34] <Pici> !gnome2 | Efrin
[14:34] <randomseed> mfilipe hibernate and suspend both fail?
[14:35] <tsaknorris> let see :)
[14:35] <compdoc> kuchiku, you using dhcp to set the address?
[14:35] <sajimon> Effex: not supported, maybe if You build it Yourself, but an amount of work required makes it not worthy, better stick with 11.04
[14:35] <Henry01> thank you all, i come tomorrow back, I saving my data; that take much time
[14:35] <cutiyar> Darael, But i think if i selected Alternate will loks like command line upgrade
[14:35] <xuser1> i .m trynh ubu 11.10 from usb right now !!! bye
[14:35] <nixmaniack> I'm not able to get Gnome 3, I'm getting Fallback, what should I do?
[14:35] <Darael> cutiyar: There's a tool that can be run from the CD, even in GUI mode, that will do the upgrade.  But one requires the Alternate CD image, or the DVD image, to use it - it's not on the Desktop CD.
  too bad, because I cant really configure gnome 3 and unity :/
[14:36] <xuser1> *trying
[14:36] <tsaknorris> ubuntu should have option people who doesnt want to use unity. it would be cool. no you dont have choice :D
[14:36] <TUBii> official .torrent is not working... :(
[14:36] <kuchiku> squeed after edit it , once reboot it will get the default frm my isp and overwrited the one that i previously wrote
[14:36] <ntr0py> genii-around: yes but that file should not be edited (according to its header), and ~/.fonts.conf is not honored... gnome-tweak-tool has no option for bgr subpixel ordering... im REALLY frustrated with that Gnome3 crap
[14:36] <Darael> tsaknorris: There's /plenty/ of options, but upstream gnome dropped support for gnome2 and we haven't the resources to fork it, so that particular one is gone.  However...
[14:36] <waring> scarleo: you there?
[14:36] <cutiyar> Darael, ok when i burned Alternate .iso to usb-disk , and bnooting can do upgrade?
[14:36] <Darael> !notunity | tsaknorris
[14:37] <Efrin> ubottu: the biggest problem for me is that I can't have bars from top on the bottom or right side of the screen
[14:37] <thiebaude> tsaknorris dont they have a choice at the log in screen?
[14:37] <Efrin> oh :P
[14:37] <thiebaude> unity, classic gnome etc
[14:37] <kuchiku> compdoc i'm using the pppd way to setup my dsl and the dns server is set to get from isp
[14:37] <Darael> cutiyar: Don't even need to bood from it.  Plug it in, and there's a "cdromupgrade" file on it.  Run that, and it'll give the upgrader.
[14:37] <dp> can anyone tell me why e16 was removed from 11.10?
[14:37] <tsaknorris> thiebaude, lol there isnt anymore "classic"
[14:37] <thiebaude> ahh ok thanks
[14:37] <genii-around> ntr0py: I think the file in home directory would be just .fonts and not .fonts.conf
[14:37] <waring> scarleo?
[14:38] <cutiyar> Darael, ok i will test it now
[14:38] <tsaknorris> Darael, yup! bitty that they dont support other choices. only that unity
[14:38] <itai> hi, if i did apt-get remove , can i still find the deb on my computer somehwere ?
[14:38] <Squeeb> how can I reset unity so that it works?
[14:38] <thiebaude> hmm, thought it was about choice
[14:38] <Yyhaell> !ask | Squeeb
[14:39] <Squeeb> Yea, I did ask a question
[14:39] <Squeeb> thanks for that.
[14:39] <Yyhaell> Squeeb: Read the part concerning more detail, please. =)
[14:39] <scarleo> warfaren, on the phone, brb
[14:39] <Squeeb> which part?
[14:39] <baudits> Im new to ubuntu. I tried to checkout some files from CVS. But i get a:  "cvs checkout: failed to obtain history lock in repository ....." error. can anyone help me with this error or tell me where to look or ask?
[14:39] <waring> ok..waiting here
[14:39] <Darael> tsaknorris: So because they don't have the resources to officially support lots of DEs, they aren't offering a choice, even though one can install them anyway and the community gives pretty good support?
[14:39] <cutiyar> Darael, i burned Desktop .iso also there is cdromupgrade but i click it just open the file
[14:39] <Yyhaell> Squeeb: reviewing it I can now see that it has been revised. =? Sorry for that! Can you please provide more information?
[14:40] <scarleo> waring, , on the phone, brb
[14:40] <Squeeb> \o/
[14:40] <Squeeb> Ok so I had some trouble with the nvidia-173 drivers, (now fixed).. however, If I start up in Ubuntu-2d I get the left menu bar and the icons in the top right hand menubar
[14:40] <Squeeb> however, if i start up in normal "Ubuntu" I get no icons at the top right and nothing at the left.
[14:40] <nailox> hi. can anyone help me with installing phpmyadmin on ubuntu server? i followed the howto in help.ubunto.com but I get page not found
[14:40] <Squeeb> no clock, no logout menu ..
[14:40] <Squeeb> no ability to add things to the menu
[14:41] <Squeeb> can't right click on it etc..
[14:41] <randomseed> mfilipe hibernate and suspend both fail?
[14:41] <Yyhaell> Squeeb: is this 11.04 or 11.10?
[14:41] <Squeeb> All I can see is "File Edit View Go Bookmarks and Help"
[14:41] <Squeeb> 11.10
[14:41] <ntr0py> genii-around: no effect and it seems gnome-shell just uses grayscale rendering... maybe this is also broken (besides the whole interface idea)...
[14:41] <nailox> hi. can anyone help me with installing phpmyadmin on ubuntu server? i followed the howto in help.ubunto.com but I get page not found
[14:41] <mfilipe> randomseed, no, suspend works. I found out my problem... swap wasn't set :P
[14:41] <Yyhaell> Squeeb: I've been having problems with it too! =P The price you pay for installing a new release at launch, I suppose. One moment while I take a look! =D
[14:41] <asdkkjlkja> Guys I still have smth like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748091 with Intel driver, joined the launchpad bug but can't find it now
[14:41] <waring> scarleo: ok, will reboot and brb
[14:42] <Squeeb> Yyhaell: I think I found a fix
[14:42] <Squeeb> but it makes everything slow again
[14:42] <Squeeb> unity --reset
[14:42] <dhruvasagar> Alt+Tab in ubuntu 11.10 is current showing me apps/windows from all workspaces, I want alt+tab to show apps/windows only from the current workspace. What's the point of having multiple workspaces if alt+tab is going to show you all of the apps anyways!?
[14:42] <kuchiku> how to permanently overwrite adsl dns server for my internet connection
[14:42] <Squeeb> unfortunatly it's so slow that it makes the WM unusable
[14:42] <Squeeb> seems to be a huge problem with Unithy
[14:42] <Squeeb> Unity *
[14:43] <Yyhaell> Squeeb: is this a new(er) machine? (Though, it shouldn't have to be...)
[14:43] <Squeeb> no
[14:43] <Squeeb> It was fine in 10.04
[14:43] <Squeeb> or was I running 11.04
[14:43] <itai> also, can someone help with a command that will look for a chrome package in all my directories
[14:43] <kuchiku> why oh why linux has to make it so hard to change such simple stuff
[14:43] <Squeeb> I dunno
[14:43] <FloodBot1> Squeeb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:43] <Squeeb> whichever one was before
[14:43] <Squeeb> kuchiku: it's free.
[14:43] <Squeeb> Go figure.
[14:43] <genii-around> Hm
[14:43] <dhruvasagar> anyone ?!
[14:43] <Yyhaell> Squeeb: 11.04 was the one before this one. =) I am sorry to hear that you're having such an issue with Unity! Have you considered simply applying Gnome3?
[14:44] <galewolf> upgrade to 11.10 failed with many instances of the following error "dpkg: error: configuration error: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1: unknown option 'foreign-architecture'" Any suggestions?
[14:44] <Squeeb> hmm, I've not
[14:44] <Yyhaell> kuchiku: That's not a Linux problem, that's an Ubuntu issue.
[14:44] <kuchiku> anyone here know the answer to the ultimate question ?
[14:44] <Squeeb> might give that a shot
[14:44] <Darael> kuchiku: Well, thou couldst click the network connection icon, go Edit Connections..., and edit the relevant connection's IPV4 settings - set it to DHCP - Addresses Only, and then input the DNS server overrides.
[14:44] <ffk27> i'm having a issue at unity to
[14:44] <Squeeb> Oh crap yea! they replaced gnome with this unity stuff didn't they?
[14:44] <Squeeb> rigt
[14:44] <dhruvasagar> kuchiku: 42!?
[14:44] <cablop> ok
[14:44] <varikonniemi> what caused the horrible boot times in ubuntu 9.10 ? it seems like impossible to make a system boot over 5x slower than the previous 9.4 release?
[14:44] <Yyhaell> Squeeb: I'm considering that myself. I loathe Unity, to be honest.
[14:44] <Squeeb> installing gnome3
[14:44] <Darael> kuchiku: The one of Life, the Universe, and Everything?  It /was/ 42, but it may have changed.
[14:44] <Squeeb> will report back
[14:44] <cablop> i am willing to move to another thing
[14:44] <cablop> tat gnome 3 and that nity things are in the way of my work
[14:45] <timing> how do I print in black and white ?
[14:45] <kuchiku> what 42 ?
[14:45] <waring> scarleo: I am back
[14:45] <Yyhaell> timing: From Libreoffice?
[14:45] <kuchiku> what is it ?
[14:45] <dhruvasagar> kuchiku: you need to build a much more powerfull supercomputer for that and it will take about 3 millions years to computer and answer it for you
[14:46] <randomseed> mfilipe, no problem, no sweat
[14:46] <cablop> kuchiku it is a joke and now becomming a meme
[14:46] <timing> Yyhaell: no, pdf reader
[14:46] <kuchiku> sagar what did u meant by 42
[14:46] <shelest`> dhruvasagar: 42 obviously.
[14:46] <cablop> damn, gnome 3 has no screensaver?
[14:46] <kuchiku> tell me quick
[14:46] <Squeeb> !gnome3
[14:46] <Darael> kuchiku: 42 was, in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series, by Douglas Adams, the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.  Of course, nobody knew the Question, so it didn't make much sense.  But this is off-topic.
[14:46] <timing> Yyhaell: evince
[14:46] <Squeeb> ^^ wut
[14:46] <Yyhaell> dhruvasagar: Will that computer be running Ubuntu? If not, then it's not an Ubuntu topic! =P
[14:46] <Yyhaell> timing: Then I'm not sure. Sorry!
[14:46] <Darael> Squeeb: The bot's out of date.  It happens sometimes.
[14:46] <Squeeb> h
[14:46] <Squeeb> ah *
[14:46] <scarleo> waring, try installing these packages but with your kernel number: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10694483&postcount=9
[14:46] <dhruvasagar> kuchiku: refer HHGTTG
[14:46] <genii-around> ntr0py: From looking at /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and the manpage for fonts.conf... it seems to look in the directory ~/.fonts/    probably for the local fonts.conf
[14:46] <dhruvasagar> Yyhaell: surem why not :D
[14:46] <kuchiku> ooooooooooooh the funny hitchiker guide , i like that movie and i like that girl
[14:46] <jatt> so what gnome version is in 11.10?
[14:46] <dhruvasagar> anyone familiar with my problem ?
[14:47] <Darael> jatt: It's gnome3.
[14:47] <cablop> Yyhaell: by definition that computer is running with other computers inside and some of them on ubuntu
[14:47] <Darael> jatt: It's Unity by default, though, rather than Gnome Shell.
[14:47] <jatt> why did ubottu said gnome 3 is not currently supported by ubuntu?
[14:47] <dhruvasagar> any help would be appreciated!
[14:47] <Darael> jatt: As I said.  The bot's out of date.  It happens sometimes.
[14:47] <Yyhaell> jatt: The bot is out of date - as stated above, it happens sometimes.
[14:47] <ffk27> !nounity
[14:47] <nixmaniack> I'm not getting Full Gnome 3, instead I'm getting Fallback mode? What should I do?
[14:47] <dp> can anyone tell me why e16 was removed from 11.10?
[14:47] <cablop> how can i create multiple workspaces in unity?
[14:48] <waring> scarleo: ok, will install
[14:48] <kuchiku> previously i installed a type of network manager it has this signal icon on the systray to show u your connection status
[14:48] <waring> scarleo: and about the display?
[14:48] <Yyhaell> Ubuntu! You used to be such a cool, user-friendly OS! What happened?!
[14:48] <cablop> is there no kubuntu channel?
[14:48] <th_> unity happened
[14:48] <Squeeb> ok, installing gnome-shell
[14:48] <Squeeb> seems easier
[14:48] <Darael> cablop: There is indeed a #kubuntu channel.
[14:48] <scarleo> waring, did you try what the link i sent said?
[14:48] <kuchiku> but the problem wilth tis app is that when my connectin is unstable going on and off the app wont work and rquired reboot
[14:48] <th_> Squeeb: if you have ati, don't bother :-)
[14:48] <Squeeb> th_: nvidia
[14:49] <th_> Squeeb: lucky you
[14:49] <Squeeb> unity = fail on nvidia
[14:49] <Squeeb> so use that on Ati :P
[14:49] <dp> Squeeb: s/ on nvidia//;
[14:49] <th_> should work fine on both?
[14:49] <Squeeb> dp lol
[14:49] <waring> scarleo: yes, i ran 'xrandr' and the options it gave me were only 800x600 and 1024x768
[14:49] <th_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38028/performance-being-really-choppy-with-ati-drivers this might concern both cards though
[14:49] <th_> as it's nothing driver related, really
[14:49] <th_> just stupid vsync defaults in compiz
[14:50] <igormorgado> hi all
[14:50] <Squeeb> Seriously though, everytime unity makes an appearence, everybody cries
[14:50] <Squeeb> so why do people keep persuing it?
[14:50] <kuchiku> what happen if android expend to desktop ?
[14:50] <igormorgado> my bt keyboard is being recognized as a core pointer, any tips
[14:50] <ffk27> lets all use debian
[14:50] <Squeeb> LETS
[14:50] <Squeeb> but
[14:50] <Darael> Squeeb: Because the claim that "everybody cries" is selection bias.  One only /hears/ the people who cry.  Most of the people who like it don't say anything.
[14:50] <Squeeb> then we won't be able to bleeding edge software everything :P
[14:50] <Pici> Lets stay on-topic here.
[14:50] <ntr0py> genii-around: so its ~/.fonts/fonts.conf
[14:51] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:51] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/856882
[14:51] <DanaG> Argh, that's so aggravating.
[14:51] <DanaG> Makes the bug report useless.
[14:51] <DanaG> Duplicate of a private bug.  Great.
[14:51] <genii-around> ntr0py: Likely, yes. The /etc/fonts/fonts.conf also mentions a "local.conf" but frustratingly not where that is to be found
[14:51] <Squeeb> right *eases into Gnome*
[14:52] <Squeeb> wtf.. is that.
[14:52] <Squeeb> ROUND CORNERS?!
[14:52] <DanaG> Unity is nice, but if you actually want this supposed "tablet" interface to be actually useful on a tablet, it needs an onscreen keyboard.
[14:52] <dhruvasagar> kuchiku: you need to build a much more powerfull supercomputer for that and it will take about 3 millions years to computer and answer it for you
[14:52] <ntr0py> genii-around: i have ~/.fonts.conf as well as ~/.fonts/.fonts.conf and it wont change anything ...
[14:53] <DanaG> And preferably good pen input, as well.
[14:53] <dhruvasagar> Alt+Tab in ubuntu 11.10 is current showing me apps/windows from all workspaces, I want alt+tab to show apps/windows only from the current workspace. What's the point of having multiple workspaces if alt+tab is going to show you all of the apps anyways!?
[14:53] <Darael> DanaG: The on-screen keyboard is there, AIUI, but good pen input is, admittedly, lacking.  Feel free to contribute it :P
[14:53] <tommiboy> hello there
[14:54] <genii-around> ntr0py: ~/.fonts/fonts.conf    rather than ~/.fonts/.fonts.conf    eg: no dot in front of fonts.conf
[14:54] <cousin_luigi> hello
[14:54] <osmosis> figured it out
[14:54] <DanaG> ntr0py: is it /etc/fonts/ ?
[14:54] <Eiertschik> better...
[14:54] <DanaG> conf.d
[14:54] <kuchiku> can ubuntu install on a tablet pc ?
[14:54] <cutiyar> Darael, the file cdromupgrade just open in text editor nothing else
[14:54]  * cousin_luigi can't resize windows on gnome-classic
[14:54] <Eiertschik> is anyone familiar with partition tables and sector sizes of usb flash drive?
[14:54] <kuchiku> is there a version of ubuntu available for that
[14:54] <DanaG> Darael: assuming you didn't have a keyboard, how would you open the on-screen keyboard?
[14:54] <coz_> kuchiku,   it definitly s hould work on tablet
[14:54] <Darael> DanaG: My memory is that there's an option at the login screen.  ICBW.
[14:55] <davf> I've change to gnome-shell in 11.10. How do I move the close button to the right
[14:55] <davf> left I mean
[14:55] <DanaG> Thankfully, this tablet I have here is a pen-only convertible tablet, not a touch-only keyboardless tablet.
[14:55] <coz_> kuchiku,  the interface alone is designed for that
[14:55] <kuchiku> it doesn't seems like touchable :)
[14:55] <randomseed> dhruvasagar, yeah, and your porn url in firefox shows up even though quickly flipped to a new desktop *oops*
[14:55] <Eiertschik> i somehow managed to trick both windows and ubuntu to think that a 2GB usb drive has 3.4GB capacity
[14:55] <reisio> Eiertschik: worthwhile use of time
[14:55] <Eiertschik> ordinary formatting doesn't change anyhting
[14:55] <coz_> kuchiku,  ah I see,, mm  not sure about that ,, although I believe it should have touch capability,, I dont have a tablet here to test however
[14:55] <Squeeb> !gnome3
[14:56] <Darael> Eiertschik: Sure it isn't really a 4G stick, possibly mislabelled?
[14:56] <randomseed> dhruvasagar, I hate that
[14:56] <Eiertschik> no - it was 2GB before i started tinkering with it
[14:56] <cutiyar> Darael, i burned Desktop .iso also there is cdromupgrade but i click it just open the file
[14:56] <Eiertschik> at first i formatted it to exFAT, but my laptop was unable to boot from it
[14:56] <Whiskey> lol
[14:57] <genii-around> ntr0py: Have you ran fc-cache after changing the font files?
[14:57] <cousin_luigi> Squeeb: was that for me?
[14:57] <Whiskey> Anyone relly good guru on Ubuntu here :D
[14:57] <Eiertschik> the i tried encrypted FAT - didn't work either
[14:57] <reisio> Squeeb: my favorite part of that is how it doesn't say what gnome shell is :p
[14:57] <saeftl> hi. what is the difference between libnss-ldap ("NSS module for using LDAP as a naming service") and libnss-ldapd ("NSS module for using LDAP as a naming service") ?
[14:57] <Whiskey> got problem whjit the BNC
[14:57] <Whiskey> got problem whjit the VNC
[14:57] <Eiertschik> and when i reformatted it to plain FAT it showed up as 3.7GB device
[14:57] <Darael> cutiyar: I did /say/ that cdromupgrade only works from the Alternate CD.  I can't be blamed when people refuse to listen.
[14:57] <Pici> Whiskey: Is it the same problem that was listed in the release notes?
[14:58] <reisio> saeftl: d usually denotes a daemon
[14:58] <Whiskey> i have not relly readed it so men prob not no
[14:58] <cutiyar> Darael, i did it what u said i also had Alternate and burned it myu usb disk
[14:58] <saeftl> reisio: how is a daemon involved with querying an ldap server?
[14:58] <Whiskey> I don´t get it
[14:59] <Squeeb> urgh
[14:59] <kuchiku> honestly i think ubuntu future is bleak it doesnt seems to going any where , windows 8 evolve , ios and android leading
[14:59] <DanaG> hmm, once you hide onboard, you can't unhide it.
[14:59] <Whiskey> Im a Windows users, i can start the computer and connect to RDP
[14:59] <Darael> cutiyar: Well, in that case, it may be necessary to open a terminal, cd to the CD, and run ./cdromupgrade.  It should still run in the graphical updater.
[14:59] <Squeeb> Window Managers are starting to get forceful with their layouts
[14:59] <Squeeb> Edit the menubar? NOT TODAY!!!
[14:59] <Whiskey> but on linux i need to have the user logged in to connect to it,,, it most be away to run the VNC as service so user don+t need to be logged in
[14:59] <cutiyar> Darael, its too many times i said its USB DIsck not cd
[15:00] <Darael> cutiyar: Then cd to the /usb/ location.  The instruction still applies.
[15:00] <Whiskey> Anyone know how?
[15:00] <cutiyar> Darael, how? i opened this file just it open it with text-editor
[15:01] <taisa> i love the new integration of deja dup, thank you, ubuntu developers
[15:01] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/275450
[15:01] <Pici> Whiskey: Its a bit more complicated, but there are instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC and here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#x11vnc-before-login
[15:02] <Shappy> Hello o/
[15:02] <Darael> cutiyar: As I said.  It may be necessary to open a terminal, cd to /media/<something>, and run ./cdromupgrade.  It should be reasonably obvious what <something> is.  Alternatively, if double-clicking the cdromupgrade file gives an intermediate popup, giving the option of "run", "run in terminal", and "Display", choose "run" instead of "display".
[15:02] <Darael> cutiyar: Even if run from the terminal, it should still run the GUI upgrader.
[15:03] <Shappy> I was wondering if using Ubuntu live cd what application should I use to clone an internal 750GB HDD as it is into an image and save it back from and external HDD later
[15:03] <august33> anybody get ubuntu to work w/ ios5
[15:03] <Shappy> Like... clone with the boot sectors and stuff
[15:03] <reisio> august33: ?
[15:03] <MrMind> hi folks, I have a mpb 13" 2011 and I want to install ubuntu 11.10 on it... I find these http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ page with speciall iso files for mac, should I use this iso files instead of the orginal?
[15:03] <Darael> Shappy: The standard recommendation for that seems to be clonezilla.  No experience with it myself.
[15:03] <Nieros> shappy: I *think* gparted can do it.
[15:04] <Nieros> I could be wrong though
[15:04] <august33> reisio: iphone
[15:04] <Shappy> I need a reliable solution
[15:04] <reisio> august33: what about iphone
[15:04] <ikonia> august33: what are you talking about -
[15:04] <Shappy> Data loss is inacceptable
[15:04] <Suhel> Anyone know's how to disable nvidia graphics card
[15:04] <Darael> Shappy: Alternatively, if the backup location has more than 750G of free space, use dd.
[15:04] <Shappy> Darael, the backup device has 2TB free space
[15:04] <cutiyar> Darael, i cd to Usb but it say ./vdromupgrade not found
[15:04] <Darael> Shappy: Then dd or clonezilla will do the job.
[15:05] <cousin_luigi> nevermind
[15:05] <Nieros> I do love clonezilla
[15:05] <Suhel> Shappy you can easily backup your data,  what is your problem anyway
[15:05] <reisio> Suhel: pop it out
[15:05] <Darael> cutiyar: Perhaps that's because of the v where there should be a c?
[15:05] <Shappy> Suhel, my problem is mainly I'm a windows person but I don't want to trust my data on in when it comes to backing up. The HDD will be replaced.
[15:05] <Suhel> ResIo if I would had desktop I would had
[15:05] <zastaph> after upgrading and rebooting the Ubuntu stays on screen with 5 red dots below.. maybe its just loading really long
[15:05] <august33> i'm talking about getting ios5 to work w/ rythmbox etc.
[15:05] <cutiyar> Darael, no i typed write on the terminal
[15:05] <reisio> Shappy: full image backups are inefficient, just dd the MBR and tar up or rdiff-backup your files
[15:06] <reisio> I wouldn't even bother with the MBR, easy to reinstall that stuff
[15:06] <Suhel> Shappy you want to install ubuntu without data loss?
[15:06] <ntr0py> genii-around: fc-cache does not change it either
[15:06] <Darael> Shappy: dd will produce a bit-for-bit copy, but with no error checking.  clonezilla is smarter, I believe, but I couldn't comment due to not having used it.
[15:06] <designbybeck> Ubuntu 11.10 + ATI Drivers = FAIL
[15:06] <th_> nah
[15:07] <th_> just gnome-shell is fail
[15:07] <Squeeb> aha!
[15:07] <Squeeb> gnome-shell --replace
[15:07] <designbybeck> I have tried everyway to install ATI Video dirvers and nothing worked
[15:07] <Squeeb> makes it fast again
[15:07] <Shappy> Suhel, no, I want to use backup my currently NTFS file system (with a w7 and a wubi on it) using ubuntu live cd but I'm a newbie when it comes to using ubuntu for such thing
[15:07] <Adyeths> is there a way to make the fonts in the bar across the top of the screen in Oneiric antialiased and not look so ugly? Everywhere else looks great except there.
[15:07] <Shappy> -use
[15:07] <reisio> Shappy: ah
[15:07] <th_> additional drivers > click install? worked fine on my 6870
[15:07] <designbybeck> th_ it fails to install them
[15:07] <douggle> by default wine uses alsa or pulseaudio?
[15:08] <th_> not for me
[15:08] <reisio> Shappy: all you need: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows#HardDiskSupport http://mark.koli.ch/2009/05/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip.html
[15:08] <bbbenji> hello!
[15:08] <bbbenji> got a question. ive never run into this before
[15:08] <designbybeck> Dell Studio 17 Radon Moblity HD 4000 series
[15:08] <bbbenji> when i try to install ubunut 11.10 it doesnt recognize any of my partitions
[15:08] <Shappy> Checkin' the links, thanks
[15:08] <bbbenji> neither does gparted
[15:08] <josip> Hello, I have a funny problem with ubuntu 11.10. If I put the cursor in the lower-right corner the systems freezes a bit. It would have been very funny if it weren't true. Anyone?
[15:08] <reisio> Shappy: the first URI covers something you can do to make it easier to run your Windows install in a VM later on should you want to
[15:08] <bbbenji> and i have 4, ntfs, ext3, swap and another ntfs
[15:08] <bbbenji> anyone able to help me out?
[15:08] <reisio> Shappy: and the second is your standard dd imaging
[15:08] <josip> s/systems/system
[15:08] <Suhel> Shappy why don't you use windows itself for backing up? Hell lotsa backing apps available
[15:09] <reisio> Suhel: why not drive a bigwheel to work
[15:09] <jiltdil> HI any one have issue with bad pic quality in cheese
[15:09] <bbbenji> unable to find an answer online
[15:09] <cutiyar> Darael, i can to upgrade when booting it?
[15:09] <Suhel> reisio: lol
[15:09] <reisio> jiltdil: what makes you think it's bad
[15:10] <Darael> cutiyar: I'm sorry, thou shalt have to find someone else to assist.
[15:10] <Shappy> Suhel, I want to like... "mirror" the current hdd's content so when I replace the HDD with another but exactly the same model al I have to do is feed the data back and have everything as it was
[15:10] <jiltdil> reisio: Actually the pic is like greenish and redish line also  awkward colour
[15:10] <Phr3d13> !nounity
[15:10] <Shappy> I'm not sure I want to trust such task on windows
[15:10] <Squeeb> urgh, what is this obsession with MASSIVE fonts!
[15:10] <cutiyar> Darael, thanks
[15:10] <kenanb> any ubuntu 11.10 users around that somehow achieved to reassign movement key?
[15:11] <jiltdil> reisio: can you help me fixing this
[15:11] <reisio> Squeeb: that's what happens when you let women run things :p
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[15:11] <kenanb> it conflicts with some other software, but this time there is no easy place to reassign alt to super as movement key for windows
[15:11] <reisio> kenanb: do what?
[15:11] <reisio> jiltdil: fixing what?
[15:11] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ but the High Contrast ones are usable.  Problem is, /they/ are ugly.  Any ideas how I can get those elements looking as they ought to?  I've tried gnome-tweak-tool, and changing the GTK+ tool to Greybird solves it but causes /other/ elements to look ...
[15:11] <Suhel> Shappy as others suggested cloneZilla would be ideal, trust me windows ain't that lame lol you can trust it
[15:12] <Darael> ... out-of-place.
[15:12] <jiltdil> reisio: the pic in cheese is looking like greenish line on it
[15:12] <reisio> jiltdil: and you think that isn't just what your camera outputs?
[15:12] <kenanb> reisio: there was movement keys option under preferences>windows tab in system settings that has the option to assign movement key to super, now there isn't
[15:12] <Shappy> Suhel, hehh... I had my experiences with it that's why it's hard
[15:13] <jiltdil> reisio: no my camera is HD
[15:13] <kenanb> so when i alt+rmb window menu of blender pops up instead of some blender specific operator
[15:13] <jiltdil> reisio: also this problem didn't occur with me in 11.04
[15:13]  * vox is thinking of rolling back to 11.04
[15:13] <Suhel> Shappy I got one idea, why not get a cable to attach your harddrive to your new computer and copy things? Search the internet for it :-)
[15:14] <josip> Hello, I have a funny problem with ubuntu 11.10. If I put the cursor in the lower-right corner the system freezes a bit. It would have been very funny if it weren't true. Anyone?
[15:14] <bbbenji> anyone able to help me out? gparted isnt recognizing my partitions. screenshot: http://i53.tinypic.com/s5z6n4.png
[15:14] <vox> not being able to have aplets in the top bar is bad bad bad bad bad
[15:14] <cutiyar> Darael, i got it , i typed sh ./cdromupgrade not just ./cdromupgrade
[15:14] <rad_sci_guy> Hello.  Anyone having 11.10 update problem where the shutdown takes a very long time.  I've updated 3 different computers (desktop, laptop, netbook) and all three hang when the shutdown is trying to kill all processes.  It takes a few minutes before computer shuts off.
[15:14] <Squeeb> josip: which window manager are you using? Unity, Unity-2d, GNOME-shell?
[15:14] <josip> Squeeb: unity
[15:14] <Shappy> Suhel, the computer will be sent to service, the data will be erased from it, I won't have two 750GB HDDs present the same time
[15:14] <josip> I should have mentioned that
[15:14] <KBentley57> When I install the latest CCC from amd I can't reboot into the log on screen, only a purple splash, followed by a black screen.  Upon rebooting into the recovery, I can select "resume boot normally" and it boots fine.  Any ideas?
[15:14] <Darael> cutiyar: Ah, it must not have been set executable.  Glad to hear it's working.
[15:14] <Squeeb> josip: is anything else slow? windows moving around, etc..
[15:14] <insomnia_> gha installed 11.10, i'm sure you guys are hearing alot about issues; So i was curious as how to undo the update since it's bloated and runs shoddily
[15:14] <reisio> bbbenji: what makes you think you have partitions
[15:15] <Whiskey> How to allow RDP/VNC connection when no used are logged in?
[15:15] <cutiyar> Darael, thank u
[15:15] <bbbenji> because i have windows on one
[15:15] <zastaph> update seems to have broken my Ubuntu.. all I see is the Ubuntu logo with 5 red dots under it.. could it be thinking/loading for more than 10-15 minutes?
[15:15] <josip> no, just when I put the mouse there it freezes for a second
[15:15] <bbbenji> and a bunch of data on another
[15:15] <brian_> my sounds stopped working on 11.10, it was working before a reboot...can anyone give some troubleshooting tips....im new to linux
[15:15] <Squeeb> zastaph: Xorg hasn't started properly
[15:15] <bbbenji> reisio: and i can boot windows just fine and see the 4 partitions i have via minitool
[15:15] <Suhel> Shappy go for clonezilla... hmmm let me search the internet though brb
[15:16] <Squeeb> josip: hmm, if you leave the mouse there, does anything show up?
[15:16] <josip> no
[15:16] <Shappy> I'm reading reisio's link
[15:16] <reisio> bbbenji: how big is this disk?
[15:16] <Squeeb> how rare, try booting into the Unity-2D session
[15:16] <bbbenji> 500gb
[15:16] <Lufti_oO> hi
[15:16] <Squeeb> and see if it still does it
[15:16] <MaMaGoody> hi, anyone know why pidgin's silc is gone in 11.10?
[15:16] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable unless currently selected - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ Adwaita.  Any ideas how I can get those elements looking as they ought to?  I've tried gnome-tweak-tool, and changing the GTK+ theme to Greybird solves it but causes /other/ elements to look out-of-place.
[15:16] <insomnia_> same issue here brian_
[15:16] <reisio> Shappy: skip clonezilla, with it you will be completely in the dark as to how it is making your backup and how it is restoring it
[15:16] <reisio> Lufti_oO: hi
[15:16] <justa> As i am sure I am not the first. Hereby a 'Oneiric SUCKS'+1 notice
[15:17] <rad_sci_guy> Hello.  Anyone having 11.10 update problem where the shutdown takes a very long time.  I've updated 3 different computers (desktop, laptop, netbook) and all three hang when the shutdown is trying to kill all processes.  It takes a few minutes before computer shuts off.
[15:17] <Nieros> 11.10 outright broke my system :D
[15:17] <jiltdil> look how the pic is looking by cheese
[15:17] <Squeeb> rad_sci_guy: log out, ctrl-alt+F2 to get into a console
[15:17] <Lufti_oO> I've problems with the texlive latex packages. I've installed the texlive-full and texlife-latex-extra package but the latex compiler still throws an error "! LaTeX Error: File `glossary.sty' not found" when I use the "glossary" package.
[15:17] <Lufti_oO> any idea?
[15:17] <justa> Nieros: same here. Next to the 'Unity is like smoking Crack'
[15:17] <Squeeb> rad_sci_guy: log in as root and `service lightdm stop`
[15:17] <Squeeb> rad_sci_guy: then `shutdown` and see where it hangs
[15:18] <jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:18] <fmauro> 17:17 < jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:18] <fmauro> 17:17 < jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:18] <fmauro> 17:17 < jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:18] <Squeeb> that should allow you to see which process is hanging
[15:18] <FloodBot1> fmauro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <zastaph> Squeeb, what do I do? try to reboot?
[15:18] <brian_> maybe the gnome shell broke the sound?
[15:18] <Squeeb> zastaph: either reboot or shutdown commands will do
[15:18] <insomnia_> holy crap everyone is having problems
[15:18] <Squeeb> insomnia_: pretty much
[15:18] <Suhel> Shaggy its clonezilla all over the place lol
[15:18] <insomnia_> 11.10= poop
[15:19] <reisio> fmauro: neat
[15:19] <Suhel> Dinner time bye guys
[15:19] <justa> Sloppy focus (focus follows mouse); where to enable/restore that ?
[15:19] <brian_> well the sound was working at one point, just a matter of getting it to work again
[15:19] <Twilo> how can i disable Unity - awful :-(
[15:19] <jiltdil> reisio : look the pixeles  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:19] <jatt> insomnia_: why
[15:19] <Squeeb> Twilo: best way I've found so far is to install gnome-shell
[15:19] <Twilo> Squeeb: ok
[15:19] <Squeeb> Twilo: although not perfect, it's *almost* as good as the old desktop
[15:19] <insomnia_> too buggy
[15:20] <reisio> jiltdil: yup, that's weird
[15:20] <justa> I'm planning to start a ppa for gnome2 desktop for 11.10...
[15:20] <justa> and will pledge money on it.
[15:20] <jatt> gnome2 is the past
[15:20] <jiltdil> reisio: so any idea how to fix this?
[15:20] <jatt> forget about it
[15:20] <justa> Don't care.
[15:20] <bbbenji> reisio: fdisk shows all my paritions but ubuntu 11.10 install and gparted do not see them
[15:20] <jatt> gnome3 is the present and the future
[15:21] <zastaph> Squeeb, seems to be stuck again after shutdown
[15:21] <justa> Fine; but the 'way to work with Gnome3' is almost as bad as Unity
[15:21] <lenbust> this libc6 situation confuses me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708054/
[15:21] <lenbust> how do I resolve the unmet dependecy?
[15:21] <justa> It's not 'better'; it's just wildly different
[15:21] <Whiskey> No one relly know any answer to that question?
[15:21] <jatt> you can always install xfce
[15:21] <KBentley57> should I be able to remove .debs that were previously installed, and doing:  sudo dpkg --purge *.deb?
[15:21] <KBentley57> *by doing
[15:21] <Egbert9e9> jatt: what's up with gnome in 11.10? I've heard it's all Unity now and the gnome present is half of what it was?
[15:21] <justa> and an amount of flexibility and choices get taken away with each iteration till it's something like an iPhone
[15:21] <balooo> hi everyone.  I was looking for a good tutorial on how to setup a virtualization enviorment on an ubuntu 11 server.  I ideally want to spin up  file based virtual machines of various distros (ubuntu, centos, redhat).  Can anyone point me in the right direction.  So far my best resource is: http://tinyurl.com/6xstlu8
[15:21] <venik212> How do I get more themes for ubuntu 11.10?  I hate the few that come with it.  B4 I was able to choose among several nice ones from the desktop configuration, but no  more..
[15:22] <Egbert9e9> jatt: I'm still downloading the packages needed to upgrade
[15:22] <jatt> I don't know dude I am upgrading at this very moment but some people seem to be annoyed by 11.10
[15:22] <jatt> I as hoping gnome 3 would be a cool thing to see
[15:22] <Squeeb> zastaph: at what point though
[15:22] <Squeeb> you should have seen the shutdown in progress
[15:22] <reisio> bbbenji: that happens sometimes
[15:22] <dweez> Egbert9e9, you can install Gnome 3 by sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[15:22] <reisio> bbbenji: what is it you want to do?
[15:22] <Egbert9e9> dweez: that's all?
[15:22] <jatt> so are you saying gnome 3 sucks as much as unity?
[15:22] <dweez> well, that gets you started
[15:23] <Egbert9e9> dweez: is it equivalent to "ubuntu-desktop"?
[15:23] <brian_> so no one else has broken sound other than insomnia and i?
[15:23] <dweez> jatt, not as much as Unity
[15:23] <dweez> I like it a bit better
[15:23] <kuchiku> i like ubuntu wallpaper change periodically
[15:23] <reisio> balooo: kvm is a good start
[15:23] <bbbenji> reisio: i would like to install ubuntu 11.10 alongside windows, but i have i cant define which partition i want to install to since it doesnt see them
[15:23] <OerHeks> brian_, broken sound after upgrade ?
[15:23] <dweez> Egbert9e9, I can't say if it's a equivalent or not as I don't know enough about either to make the comparison
[15:23] <zastaph> Squeeb, i run it in vbox .. it stops booting after 15-20 secs
[15:23] <insomnia_> yup, right after i rebooted
[15:23] <zastaph> then no more HDD activity
[15:23] <brian_> im not sure if it happened immediately after the gnome-shell install
[15:24] <reisio> bbbenji: put a file 'thisOne' on the partition you want to use from Windows
[15:24] <OerHeks> brian_, remove ~/.pulse & reboot
[15:24] <Egbert9e9> I mean, is the "gnome-shell" package equivalent to the package "ubuntu-desktop"
[15:24] <brian_> i tried that as well
[15:24] <reisio> bbbenji: then when you mount it from the live OS you'll know it's the right one
[15:24] <Egbert9e9> dweez: okay
[15:24] <surround> hello everybody
[15:24] <brian_> and reinstalled pulse
[15:24] <lyndon> exit
[15:24] <lyndon>  
[15:24] <lyndon>  
[15:24] <jatt> no
[15:24] <FloodBot1> lyndon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:24] <lyndon>  
[15:24] <balooo> reisio: yes but will following / reading up on KVM allow me to setup centos / redhat virtual machines?
[15:24] <dweez> lyndon, type /part
[15:24] <jatt> ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[15:24] <TheProf> Pici, I was able to create the shared folder and now the users can write and read but can't delete any files.  How can they delete a file? Thank you.
[15:24] <bbbenji> reisio: the problem is the installed doesnt see any partitions at all! it only see the disk as a whole. id have no problem identifying which partition i want to install to if i could see them
[15:24] <DanaG> I actually like Unity better than Gnome-Shell.
[15:25] <reisio> balooo: yup
[15:25] <bbbenji> http://i53.tinypic.com/s5z6n4.png screenshot of what gparted shows
[15:25] <dweez> gnome-shell had several dependencies included but I don't know if, in general, it was a "meta package" or not
[15:25] <surround> i am able to use my laptop as a speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it in UBuntu 11.04
[15:25] <DanaG> Just needs some fixes to things.
[15:25] <balooo> reisio: do you have a good tutorial you can point me to?
[15:25] <dweez> !gnome-shell
[15:25] <reisio> bbbenji: that's gparted, you said fdisk works
[15:25] <insomnia_> how do i downgrade to 11.04?
[15:25] <dweez> !gnome
[15:25] <DanaG> Like: press super+w quickly.
[15:25] <DanaG> Press it again quickly.
[15:25] <reisio> balooo: for how to use kvm/libvirt/etc. for exactly what you want?
[15:25] <bbbenji> yes, fdisk sees the partitions, but the installer doesnt either
[15:25] <reisio> balooo: nope; maybe someone in ##linux has
[15:26] <bbbenji> reisio: so i cant define which partition i want to install to
[15:26] <DanaG> Testdisk
[15:26] <balooo> reisio: thanks
[15:26] <surround>  i am able to use my laptop as a speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it in ubuntu 11.04
[15:26] <reisio> bbbenji: if you setup a partition from fdisk that might change
[15:27] <Squeeb> Right, Final verdict
[15:27] <lars4> Hi, can anyone help me with a networking problem?
[15:27] <Squeeb> 11.10 is WRONG
[15:27] <bbbenji> reisio: i will try that. heres a screenshot of fdisk and installer: http://i55.tinypic.com/2u5s5fq.png
[15:27] <dweez> jatt and Egbert9e9, this is basically what I followed to install Gnome3 ==> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot.html
[15:27] <Tenkawa> 11.10 definitely has hiccups
[15:27] <reisio> lars4: not until you explain it
[15:27] <brian_> what the command to remove the entire pulse directory?
[15:28] <lars4> reisio: I upgraded to oneiric desktop and DNS resolving is no longer working
[15:28] <reisio> bbbenji: interesting
[15:28] <reisio> bbbenji: maybe if you use the "alternate" install image, it has an "expert" mode, IIRC
[15:28] <jatt> Tenkawa: like what
[15:28] <reisio> lars4: tell the channel
[15:28] <complexity>  mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i";, why won't that go through
[15:29] <lars4> reisio: what do you mean?
[15:29] <complexity> it just keeps freezing, i'm trying to mass replace size of some images
[15:29] <bbbenji> reisio: oh great! thats what i need. thanks
[15:30] <surround> i am using my laptop as speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it Ubuntu 11.04
[15:30] <zastaph> Squeeb, under known issues it says: Users of VMWare Workstation 8 or VMWare Player may experience boot problems .. and i use vbox
[15:30] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable unless currently selected - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ Adwaita.  Any ideas how I can get those elements looking as they ought to?  I've tried gnome-tweak-tool, and changing the GTK+ theme to Greybird solves it but causes /other/ elements to look out-of-place.
[15:31] <brian_> oerheks i get > after that command
[15:31] <Squeeb> zastaph: as far as you've mentioned so far you've not had a boot problem
[15:31] <reisio> Darael: the problem is with the default theme set?
[15:31] <Squeeb> just a shutdown problem
[15:31] <th0r> complexity: I think "$I" will be interpreted literally
[15:32] <surround> i am able to use my laptop as a speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it in ubuntu 11.04
[15:32]  * Tenkawa just wishes he could have the window manager back from natty just as is
[15:32] <jiltdil> Guys help me to fix my cheese problem
[15:32] <lars4> After upgrading to oneiric DNS resolving is no longer working. Just IP's work file.
[15:32] <complexity> th0r, meaning, i tried without quotes and still no luck?
[15:32] <Tenkawa> lars4: you check your resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf files?
[15:32] <Darael> reisio: Happens with Ambiance, Radiance and Adwaita.  Buttons and dropdowns have very similar text and background colours.  I'm /sure/ it can't be intended, because the background colour is so much lighter than the /window/ background colour.
[15:33] <surround> i am able to use my laptop as a speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it in ubuntu 11.04
[15:33] <w47331> i have an issue with my graphics not working correctly. Im new to linux and am confussed as to what to ask...any help to clear this up?
[15:33] <reisi> surround: please ask only once; if someone knows, you'll be answered
[15:34] <th0r> complexity: I just got it to work with no quotes, double or single. So try taking out all the quotes and see what happens
[15:34]  * jiltdil oh God 11.10 fixes the big bugs but now small things appeared with bugs that was not in 11.04
[15:34] <godzuki> w47331: What's happening?
[15:34] <anom001> what small things?
[15:35] <jiltdil> anom001: like cheese
[15:35] <babati> hi
[15:35] <reisio> babati: hi
[15:35] <mang0> I have a couple of questions about Oneiric; What are the changes? Is it worth updating? (from 11.04)
[15:35] <babati> need help with ubuntu
[15:36] <babati> could anyone help me pleas
[15:36] <babati> e
[15:36] <Darael> !help | babati
[15:36] <w47331> my video freezes when it trys to diag it says no support for texture found.DTX texture compression not required.
[15:36] <reisio> mang0: it's always worth updating software, assuming you have the time to fix any issues you might encounter
[15:36] <lauratika> i just upgrade to ocelotl but my gnome shell is gone... em i forced now to use unity?
[15:36] <anom001> jiltdil: yeah- that wasn't working for me on the 10.04 version, did on 11.04- we'll have to see if it stops working for me.
[15:36] <reisio> lauratika: no you aren't
[15:37] <babati> i need help removing Ubuntu and installing Windows XP. But when I boot in BIOS, it asks me for "current" password, I wrote root password and also changed it many times but still won't let me in. How can I bypass or get the password for it?
[15:37] <meowsus> Hey everyone
[15:37] <siganderson> my clock in kde disappeared, does this sound new?
[15:37] <jiltdil> anom001:  it was working fine on 11.04
[15:37] <Darael> lauratika: Shouldn't be.  It may be necessary to install the gnome-shell package again, but it'll work.
[15:37] <Squeeb> lol .. will this work? sed -i 's/oneiric/natty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && aptitude update
[15:37] <Squeeb> :P
[15:37] <lauratika> darael via ubuntu software
[15:37] <lauratika> ??
[15:37] <brian_> after i removed pulse audio now it shows no audio devices
[15:37] <gbacon> The upgrade to 11.10 on my laptop went badly (booted once this morning, but freezes now). I downloaded the live CD and am trying to repair, but I don't see an obvious repair option. I tried "Upgrade 11.10 to 11.10," but got nervous when it asked me for my login credentials.
[15:37] <Darael> lauratika: Well, personally I'd pull up a terminal and do a "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell", but it should be in the Software Centre too.
[15:38] <w47331> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707773/
[15:38] <w47331> thats what i have
[15:38] <babati> i need help removing Ubuntu and installing Windows XP. But when I boot in BIOS, it asks me for "current" password, I wrote root password and also changed it many times but still won't let me in. How can I bypass or get the password for it?
[15:38] <lauratika> darael: thanx a lot
[15:38]  * jiltdil My experience with every ubuntu version that it works better after almot one month of release 
[15:38] <meowsus> When switching between my virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-F1) and desktop mode, desktop mode hangs for about a minute. Black screen, I can move the cursor a bit, but I have to wait for everything to show itself and it's rather annoying. I'm running Oneiric and just upgraded last night.
[15:38] <reisi> Squeeb: i've once had to do a distribution upgrade that way once an upgrade failed... let's just say that your mileage may vary :)
[15:38] <Squeeb> I'm downgradeing
[15:38] <Squeeb> :P
[15:38] <Ady1963> Just installed Ubuntu 11.10, fed up with Unity already, how do i install KDE desktop, without install Kubuntu from Terminal
[15:39] <brian_> is there another option than pulse audio to get my system sound back?
[15:39] <Darael> babati: the BIOS password is nothing to do with Ubuntu.  However, if thou dost not need whatever settings are in thy BIOS, thou canst open the case and remove the CMOS battery to reset the BIOS, including its password.
[15:39] <meowsus> Ady1963: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[15:39] <insomnia_> to downgrade you need to DoD your hdd
[15:39] <reisi> Squeeb: hmm good point.. wouldn't recommend it though
[15:39] <complexity> th0r, that will work recursively?
[15:39] <SmartTowel> how do i change the preferred applications in 11.10?  i can't find it anywhere.  i want my Terminator back!
[15:39] <oCean> Squeeb: downgrading is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[15:39] <Ady1963> meowsus: won't that brand everything KuBuntu?
[15:39] <Squeeb> oCean: it can't be much more broken than it is at the moment
[15:40] <Darael> meowsus: I've stopped suggesting people use aptitude 'cos it's got all sorts of dependency-resolution problems in Oneiric due to not supporting multiarch.
[15:40] <mang0> reisio: Okay, thanks.
[15:40] <reisio> brian_: pulse is extra on top of the ordinary sound system, ALSA, technically you can remove it
[15:40] <tomaszuuuu> Hi all! Have one question. I use Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME3 and standard theme - Adwaita. In this theme, some windows aps are in grey color and some in black, like totem, picture viewer etc. Could i do the same think with terminal? I want it with black panels
[15:40] <th0r> complexity: I think so, but I am no bash guru. If it doesn't work, either add an 'echo $i' so you can see the filename it is looking for, or program a fixed filename to see if it works
[15:40] <oCean> Squeeb: in that case opt for a reinstall
[15:40] <EClaesson> I recently upgraded to 11.10. Is there any way to restore it to show me the "Gnome Classic" as it were in 11.04? I have installed gnome-shell, and logged in with "Gnome Classic" but there still is very different
[15:40] <reisio> Squeeb: only a temporary solution
[15:40] <babati> anyone can answer my question
[15:40] <babati> ???
[15:40] <meowsus> Ady1963: ... yes, but Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE...
[15:40] <gbacon> can I repair a broken upgrade from the 11.10 live CD?
[15:40] <reisio> babati: I can answer your question, yes, and just did
[15:40] <Darael> !notunity | EClaesson - especially the gnome-panel bit of this
[15:40] <Ady1963> no probs, many thanks
[15:40] <babati> sry, could you repeat, my xchat closed tiself
[15:41] <th0r> complexity: I suspect the problem might be how you are defining $i, not the mogrify commandline
[15:41] <Darael> babati: the BIOS password is nothing to do with Ubuntu.  However, if thou dost not need whatever settings are in thy BIOS, thou canst open the case and remove the CMOS battery to reset the BIOS, including its password.
[15:41] <SmartTowel> how do i change the preferred applications in 11.10?
[15:41] <Tenkawa> classic looks so much different though in 11.10 than even natty
[15:41] <babati> what is CMOS battery?
[15:41] <SmartTowel> im using gnome and 11.10
[15:41] <tomaszuuuu> Hi all! Have one question. I use Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME3 and standard theme - Adwaita. In this theme, some windows aps are in grey color and some in black, like totem, picture viewer etc. Could i do the same think with terminal? I want it with black panels
[15:41] <babati> my os is installed long time ago, and it wasn't me who installed it.
[15:41] <babati> i know nothing about it therefore
[15:41] <babati> i am using ubuntu 7.04
[15:41] <SmartTowel> @tomazzuuu, have u been able to change ur preferred applications?
[15:42] <meowsus> Ady1963: it all works the same. U-buntu prefers Gnome applications, Ku-buntu prefers KDE applications Xu-buntu prefers XFCE applications
[15:42] <tomaszuuuu> yes
[15:42] <jiltdil> babati: if u forgot ur bios password  you can  bypass it by bios cleanup it is a s/w
[15:42] <Darael> babati: It's nothing to do with the OS.  There's a password on the BIOS, which is lower-level, and without it it'll take opening the case to get at the BIOS settings.
[15:42] <reisio> Adwaita?  Wow, some name
[15:42] <oCean> !upgrade | babati that version is no longer supported, you will have to upgrade
[15:42] <SmartTowel> @tomaszuuu, how did u do it in 11.10?  this default terminal is lame.
[15:42] <jiltdil> babati: no need to pull jumper from battery , it's now old day method
[15:42] <jatt> ubuntu 7.04
[15:42] <donofrio> 11.10 release - b43 cannot get 4306 rev3 firmware to load?
[15:42] <Darael> oCean: babati is wanting to move to WinXP, it would seem.
[15:42] <brian_> reisio how can i reinstall alsa maybe that will fix my broken sound?
[15:42] <SmartTowel> i want to switch it to terminator.
[15:42] <Squeeb> fuck
[15:42] <Squeeb> time to format
[15:42] <Tenkawa> am I missing something or can you not change the default session type on the login screen?
[15:42] <Squeeb> *sigh*
[15:42] <babati> yeah, so there's no way to get the BIOS pass?
[15:42] <FloodBot1> Squeeb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <tomaszuuuu> i use gnome3
[15:42] <reisio> babati: please explain what it is you think the "BIOS" is
[15:42] <oCean> Squeeb: control your language here
[15:42] <Darael> !ohmy | Squeeb
[15:43] <reisio> Squeeb: ...
[15:43] <babati> the BIOS is when the pc boots, i press DEL
[15:43] <Squeeb> lol .. spam from so many bots
[15:43] <babati> and then it asks for a password.
[15:43] <reisio> Squeeb: the only reason to format is if you want to wipe all your data for security reasons
[15:43] <babati> which i never set one neither know it :/
[15:43] <reisio> babati: okay
[15:43] <rob25> Hello, everyone. I have installed from 11.04 to 11.10 and it seems that even though I am connected to the internet, I cannot use the internet without painfully slow speeds. Anyone know a solution to this?
[15:43] <Tenkawa> every login it changes the session back to ubuntu
[15:43] <reisio> babati: why is it you want to access the BIOS
[15:43] <Squeeb> reisio: ?
[15:43] <babati> cause i want to set boot from CD.
[15:43] <reisio> Squeeb: ?
[15:43] <donofrio> ?
[15:43] <babati> so i can install windows xp, since ubuntu 7.04 is way too old and my dad bought me a CD key
[15:43] <meowsus> rob25: have you checked Additional Drivers?
[15:43] <donofrio> b43 anyone use it?
[15:43] <bhavesh> Im trying to install ubuntu 10.10 in my Asus EEE pc 900HA but in "Allocate drive space" it gives me only two options "Erase and use entire" or specify manually.. where is install alongside another OS..?
[15:43] <donofrio> with 11.10
[15:44] <reisio> babati: you don't want to just upgrade Ubuntu?
[15:44] <rob25> meowsus: It seems that when I tried to do that, it says there aren't any available.
[15:44] <vafied> babati: are you using a desktop ?
[15:44] <reisio> bhavesh: specify manually
[15:44] <tomaszuuuu> Hi all! Have one question. I use Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME3 and standard theme - Adwaita. In this theme, some windows aps are in grey color and some in black, like totem, picture viewer etc. Could i do the same think with terminal? I want it with black panels
[15:44] <meowsus> rob25: Wifi or Wired?
[15:44] <babati> yes, desktop
[15:44] <Darael> bhavesh: The partition scheme is such that it can't auto-calculate a side-by-side install.  Thou wilt have to specify manually.
[15:44] <rob25> meowsus: Wifi.
[15:44] <bhavesh> ok
[15:44] <jiltdil> babati:  i have already told u the method to bypass bios
[15:44] <babati> sorry didn't read too many people talking, could you repeat?
[15:45] <mang0> I've got a few themes and dock and custom stuff installed. If I update to Oneiric will I lose those themes?
[15:45] <softcoder> trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 64 bit
[15:45] <meowsus> rob25: do you have the hwinfo package installed?
[15:45] <softcoder> during update i get:
[15:45] <Darael> bhavesh: The most likely reason for this is that there are four primary partitions already in place, in which case one will have to go.
[15:45] <softcoder> W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[15:45] <venik212> How do I get more themes for ubuntu 11.10?  I hate the few that come with it.  B4 I was able to choose among several nice ones from the desktop configuration, but no  more..
[15:45] <rob25> meowsus: Not sure, how would I obtain it if I didn't have it.
[15:45] <a7i3n> I have a t400 laptop. Up until now the key to turn off the touchpad has worked. Now broken. Anyone know how to fix this?
[15:45] <jiltdil> babati: if u forgot ur bios password  you can  bypass it by bios cleanup it is a s/w, pulling jumper from battery is now an old method and sometimes risky
[15:45] <softcoder> any ideas?
[15:45] <rob25> mewosus: *?
[15:45] <softcoder> also: , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[15:45] <bhavesh> Darael, ok
[15:45] <donofrio> 4306 broadcom does anyone have a fix for tinyurl.com/b43-not-working-in-11-10
[15:45] <babati> what is s/w ? and how can i access bios cleanupo
[15:45] <softcoder> the burned ISO is in my cdrom
[15:46] <babati> cleanup
[15:46] <vafied> babati: open your desktop look at the motherboard and find the batery next to the battery you will find a jumper switch positions as indicated on the motherboard
[15:46] <Darael> bhavesh: The other possibility is that the installer can't make enough space by resizing existing partitions.
[15:46] <morsedl3> mang0: i have, so far, lost all themes.  i suspect i can add them back, using gnome-tweak, but so far have not done that.  it seems that oneiric, by default, only handles the default themes included with the distro. :(
[15:46] <reisio> jiltdil: what's the homepage?
[15:46] <bhavesh> k
[15:46] <tomaszuuuu> mang0 - home folder is untouchable
[15:46] <reisio> 'bios cleanup' you may as well say 'eat at joes'
[15:46] <bhavesh> Darael, Its showing Unknown for one partition
[15:46] <bhavesh> sda4
[15:46] <bhavesh> File system: unknown
[15:46] <mne>  Hi. During system bootup, I would like to mount a number of encrypted disks. The key for the first disk should come from the entered passphrase, whereas the keys for the subsequent disks should be stored on the first encrypted disks. How can I realize this ? Just adding everything to /etc/crypttab will obviously not do it as at the time crypttab is read, the first cryptodisk is not mounted yet.
[15:46] <babati> is there other way to reset it, without opening the motherboard?
[15:47] <Darael> bhavesh: I wouldn't know, I'm afraid.
[15:47] <bhavesh> Darael, and what does PE flag stand for? in gparteD?
[15:47] <softcoder> is there a better place for 11.10 support?
[15:47] <meowsus> rob25: open a terminal and run "sudo aptitude install hwinfo"
[15:47] <vafied> babati: it is really easy and only need to open your desktop case
[15:47] <mang0> morsedl3: OIC. I'm not sure if I want to upgrade or not :/
[15:47] <nytek_> Anybody having trouble with their system when upgrading to 11.10?
[15:47] <Gotisch> Hello, i am using the fallback gnome desktop and when using alt-tab to get the switcher i just get one window displayed in it even though there are multiple. the swicher app also looks very different it just has an application icon with the title below it.
[15:47] <babati> desktop case?
[15:48] <rob25> meowsus: It's telling me aptitude: command not found
[15:48] <babati> u mean motherboard?
[15:48] <donofrio> anyone use broadcom 4306 with ubuntu 11.10?
[15:48] <nytek_> rob25: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[15:48] <meowsus> :O
[15:48] <reisio> mne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[15:48] <babati> the problem is that my father has locked the motherboard and he's away from home for a few weeks
[15:48] <Gotisch> it pops up even though i have disable it in the keyboard shortcuts
[15:48] <swaroop> I tried the live cd on my acer aspire 4736 laptop, but it showed a blank screen. So i again booted with nomodeset and it was working fine. So I guess it is taking vesa driver. But i want support for intel GMA 4500MHD chipset. Is it possible?
[15:48] <swat_> upgraded to oneiric and the networking applet has gone walkabout in unity :-/
[15:48] <meowsus> rob25: try "sudo apt-get install hwinfo" (i'm an aptitude user, they work very similarly)
[15:48] <vafied> babati: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000235.htm
[15:48] <PastulioLive> babati, not doing anything immorral are we? :p
[15:48] <cutiyar> i cant SHut down my ubu tu 11.10
[15:49] <rob25> meowsus: Already started install aptitude, but it's going at a painfully slow speed.
[15:49] <vafied> lol
[15:49] <jiltdil> cutiyar: open terminal use sudo init 0 :)
[15:49] <meowsus> rob25: sorry about that, you can Ctrl-C it if you want
[15:49] <mne> reisi, if I add an init script that mounts the disk, I would also subvert the regular ubuntu mounting process.
[15:49] <meowsus> You want hwinfo, not specifically aptitude
[15:49] <rob25> meowsus: Alright, I'll do that and try the command above.
[15:49] <donofrio> fwcutter not working unsupported?
[15:50] <cutiyar> jiltdil, why its happenning how to fix?
[15:50] <morsedl3> mang0: it wasn't particularly pleasant for me, so you may wish to wait a bit.  i opt'd to upgrade from natty instead of fresh install, which might have been better.  the switch from /var/run to /run caused several problems during upgrade (no X / GUI, no networking because system-dbus-socket or somesuch wasn't found -- i had to manually move the old contents of /var/run into /run, and then symlink /var/run to /run and /var/lock to
[15:50] <morsedl3> /run/lock)
[15:50] <bhavesh> One of my drives is flagged hidden,lba what would it possibly mean?
[15:50] <softcoder> anyone?
[15:50] <softcoder> help with a simple upgrade to 11.10 ??
[15:50] <mne> reisi, Thus my script would do an incompatible and non-standard way of checking and mounting the disk. I would prefer a standard way that is compatible with the ubuntu bootup process
[15:50] <donofrio> *anyone* use a notebook with ubuntu 11.10 like say dell d830 its got a broadcom 4306 chip in it and I need firmware
[15:50] <jiltdil> cutiyar: no idea dude but i think after some days these bugs will be recovered , need to install one more time after some days
[15:51] <rob25> Is it just me or have other people been getting wifi problems with the new update?
[15:51] <urlin2u> !broadcom
[15:51] <donofrio> rob25 - me me
[15:51] <Bloomz> Could anyone help me please? I have just tried to update Ubuntu but I hadn't realised my hard drive had ran out of space. Half way through the install I made some space but after the Reboot I can no longer get past the login screen even though I'm intering the correct password.
[15:51] <mang0> morsedl3: Bah, too much work. I'm perfectly happy with 11.04, was just thinking about the pros/cons of updating :) thanks
[15:51] <cutiyar> jiltdil, ok i thought its mine only
[15:51] <reisio> mne: rc.local is pretty standard, I don't see the problem
[15:51] <wcchandler> dual booters -- i'm looking to roll win7 and ubuntu side by side.  Is it best interest to run wubi inside a win7 install?  or just partition manually?
[15:51] <govatent> Does anyone use AIM with empathy? I am having an issue on my clean 11.10 install adding my account.
[15:51] <rob25> donofrio: It's weird, mine was working before 11.10
[15:51] <jiltdil> cutiyar: i got these problems with my 11.04
[15:51] <reisio> wcchandler: manually
[15:51] <rob25> donofrio: I'm installing a package now that will hopefull fix it, though.
[15:51] <reisio> wcchandler: which is to say, leave space for Ubuntu
[15:51] <zelhar> Hello. After upgrading to 11.10 I have Xorg maxing out core cpu and after some idle time instead of Xorg it is powernapd that's maxing core cpu
[15:51] <donofrio> exactly like this linke tinyurl.com/b43-not-working-in-11-10
[15:52] <meowsus> rob25: hwinfo will just give me details on the card itself
[15:52] <urlin2u> wcchandler, wubi is not for longtime use make sure you backup windows nomatter the install.
[15:52] <donofrio> I did that too what package?
[15:52] <gbacon> gack, boot is now dropping me into initramfs shell
[15:52] <meowsus> well, us*
[15:52] <usertwo> i have just installed 11.10 and nautilus is incredibly slow (13 minutes to open). I have tried some of the online fixes but no change. Is there a light fast alternative available quickly from the repositories. I only use file managers to copy files to / from usb.
[15:52] <morsedl3> mang0: I must say, though, the system seems faster to boot and to run faster, which i imagine is due to linux kernel 3.0.  however, it's also know that kernel 3.0 presently consumes about 30% more power, which can be undesireable for laptops/netbooks (alttough there is any easy temporary workaround)
[15:52] <wcchandler> should I partition before a win7 install or shrink the partition down after an install?
[15:52] <JeremyFishCakes> usertwo: thunar is nice
[15:52] <reisio> wcchandler: partitioning beforehand will be safer and less time consuming
[15:52] <reisio> wcchandler: assuming you haven't yet installed Windows
[15:52] <gbacon> I tried booting an older Linux kernel (default is 3.0), but I landed in initramfs there too
[15:52] <rob25> meowsus: Oh, I see.
[15:53] <meowsus> (hardware info)
[15:53] <mang0> morsedl3: Interesting. What about CPU and RAM usage?
[15:53] <rob25> meowsus: I'm not very good when it comes to stuff on the terminal...
[15:53] <bhavesh> One of my Partition is LBA = Logical Block Addressing, is it safe to format it.?
[15:53] <rob25> meowsus: I
[15:53] <rob25> mewosus: *I'm looking at about 5b per second here
[15:53] <urlin2u> wcchandler, partition windows from windows it has a disc managment device, rember no more than 4 primaries per hd or 3 primaries and one extended, and make sure you know if it is a gpt or not.
[15:53] <meowsus> rob25: i wasn't either, man. The more I used the WDM the more I realized that i could do things way faster with Terminal, but i enjoy working in a desktop envrionment...
[15:53] <donofrio> anyone else useing 11.10 with broadcom chips needing firmware for 4306 rev3 wireless card
[15:53] <meowsus> :O jeepers!
[15:54] <meowsus> rob25: is this an internal card that came with the computer, ie. a laptop wireless nic card
[15:54] <mne> reisio, suppose you're booting up your system. Then from time to time, fsck will be run and you will see a nice bar indicating how much is already done. Also it will display something like "^C to cancel fsck". However, if I do that will my script, I can not use this
[15:54] <donofrio> meowsus, yes its built in for me
[15:54] <donofrio> as well
[15:54] <rob25> meowsus: It's a laptop, so it basically just a wireless card that I'm just stuck with
[15:54] <usertwo> JeremyFishCakes: can i just uninstall nautilus and install thunar without any problems? (i didnt see thunar in synaptic)
[15:54] <meowsus> rob25: not necessarily, but it should be fine
[15:54] <meowsus> It's probably just a weirdo driver issue
[15:55] <urlin2u> wcchandler, others can help I gotta go to a class.
[15:55] <donofrio> meowsus, well its a firmware issue
[15:55] <rob25> meowsus: It's been working before 11.10, I'm not quite sure what made it break.
[15:55] <reisio> mne: naturally, because that happens before filesystems are mounted, before the OS is running fully, before even your first encrypted filesystem is loaded after you type in a password
[15:55] <rob25> meowsus: It's also been working on my 10.04 install.
[15:55] <JeremyFishCakes> usertwo, you should be able to sudo apt-get install thunar
[15:55] <freshinstall> Hey ubuntu team, why do you treat every release like it's for a bunch of people that are new to it, killing off features and adding them with disregard for what people are used to using? :-)
[15:55] <morsedl3> mang0: across the board seems good if not better, especially cpu.  i have 12gig ram, so i don't often worry about ram, but i can say that, with unity, firefox, thunderbird, terminator, and xchat2, skype,dropbox, and the usual unity indicators  being the only things open right now, system is only using 2.6GB of that 12GB.
[15:55] <usertwo> morsedl3: i am using an asus 1500ah netbook which may explain why 11.10 is so slow. what is the temp workaround you mentioned?
[15:55] <RockyDd> hi, guys.
[15:56] <JadedJacob> where is terminal in 11.10?
[15:56] <JeremyFishCakes> usertwo, you can remove nautilus but you could also just set thunar as the default, and put it in the launcher
[15:56] <RockyDd> Does 'dpkg -l' list all the packages I installed in the system?
[15:56] <donofrio> meowsus - do you have b43?
[15:56] <freshinstall> RockyDd, yep
[15:56] <reisio> freshinstall: it's the nature of commercial organizations to be insane
[15:56] <meowsus> donofrio: broadcom drivers are us
[15:56] <freshinstall> reisio, at the other end of the spectrum is suse enterprise desktop, that is stuck in the 90s :-)
[15:57] <meowsus> donofrio: don't you mean bcm43?
[15:57] <RockyDd> But, why some package is in that list, but when I try to remove it, says ' the package is not installed' ? freshinstall
[15:57] <morsedl3> usertwo: hold on a sec, trying to find url...
[15:57] <cutiyar> after every booting under thw ubuntu logo say waiting for network configuration and takes too long to load system.
[15:57] <axisys> i have three chrome window .. how do I pick one in unity? it is alwasy default to the first chrome window
[15:57] <donofrio> meowsus, - cool so how do I get my 4306 rev 3 card working it ways its missing .fw files
[15:57] <reisio> freshinstall: to be fair, "enterprise" is code for "only for using software that hasn't changed in decades"
[15:57] <mne> reisio, exactly, and that's the problem. Is there a way to maybe store the key somewhere else than on the filesystem ? Maybe in an encrypted part of the LUKS header of the first disk ?
[15:57] <reisio> but yeah
[15:57] <mang0> morsedl3: I was just wonding in about it because I have a awful comp; 1.46GHz CPU and 1GB ram. You see, I am saving up for a new comp but I'm 14 with no job (atm) so it's gonna take a while!
[15:57] <morsedl3> usertwo: see "longer battery life" at http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[15:57] <reisio> mne: you can do anything you want with software
[15:57] <meowsus> donofrio: Are you using.... oh what's that called... ndiswrapper or something?
[15:58] <freshinstall> RockyDd, try apt-cache search <packagename>* <- note the star on the end of that
[15:58] <reisio> mne: but your scheme relies on you entering that first password if I'm not mistaken
[15:58] <Gotisch> http://imageshack.us/f/233/201110141753341920x1200.png/ <- this is how the taskswitcher looks, it only shows two windows even though there are many more and in keyboard shortcuts it is completly disabled. where can i find its settings?
[15:58] <donofrio> meowsus, tried to follow steps here tinyurl.com/623zrth
[15:58] <reisio> mne: have to wait for that no matter what
[15:58] <donofrio> meowsus, but it didn't work
[15:58] <donofrio> no - no ndis aaaarrrrhhhh
[15:58] <donofrio> never
[15:58] <cutiyar> after every booting under thw ubuntu logo say waiting for network configuration and takes too long to load system.
[15:58] <mne> reisio, yep. but /etc/crypttab is processed sequentially. So at the time the second disk is processed, the first one is already set up
[15:59] <freshinstall> what are the gnome guys smoking that they think the new panel is an improvement?? :-)
[15:59] <usertwo> morsedl3: thanks...reading now
[15:59] <freshinstall> where are all the frikkin features!?
[15:59] <SmartTowel> how so i change my PREFERRED APPLICATIONS in ubuntu 11.10?
[15:59] <freshinstall> me going to try kde4 - it can't be worse
[15:59] <RockyDd> freshinstall: yeah, there are 2 items listed. so?
[15:59] <morsedl3> mang0: you might do better with lubuntu for the time being, then
[15:59] <chiara> hi i have a problem with ... hdmi and ndvidia. I have desktop pc ...
[15:59] <reisio> mne: so what's the problem
[16:00] <donofrio> meowsus - see what I mean - the issue is documented here tinyurl.com/b43-do-not-work-on 11-10
[16:00] <freshinstall> RockyDd, so try entering one of those instead of what you tried that failed
[16:00] <mang0> morsedl3: 11.04 runs like a dream, so it's all good :).
[16:00] <RockyDd> ok, thanks, freshinstall
[16:01] <freshinstall> nps
[16:01] <ron> ugh. I just upgraded to 11.10, however I can't seem to be able to login from the gui. if I open a console, everything is fine. if I use the gui, the windows goes black, kinda blinks and then returns to the main login window. any suggestions?
[16:01] <sianhulo> people, how do i boot my computer from an usb with bios?
[16:01] <morsedl3> mang0: check.  then you might actually find 11.10 be somewhat better.  hard do know for sure, though, until you actully try.  why not d/l the live cd and and boot from cd to give it a try (will not alter your HD unless you want it to)
[16:01] <erin> is 60c normal for a laptop processor ?
[16:01] <donofrio> meowsus, you still about?
[16:02] <meowsus> donofrio: I guess your not the PM type... The drivers for which were just in Additional Drivers
[16:02] <donofrio> does anyone else know why b4306 is non-working
[16:02] <mne> reisio, I don't know if it is possible at all to use keys in the LUKS header as keys for other disks
[16:02] <meowsus> Have you installed those?
[16:02] <neo84> Hi all
[16:02] <morsedl3> ron: i had the same problem.  did you fresh install or upgrade
[16:02] <donofrio> PM?
[16:02] <morsedl3> ?
[16:02] <meowsus> Private Message
[16:02] <ron> morsedl3: upgrade.
[16:02] <meowsus> For some reason my XChat is not highlighting my name like it should
[16:02] <SmartTowel> how do i change the default applications in ubuntu?  i want to change the program for the terminal.  can someone just answer real quick plz.
[16:02] <freshinstall> ron, i had problems with the nvidia driver
[16:02] <mang0> morsedl3: Yeah, that's a good idea, but I've not got a lot of CD's so I'd rather do it via terminal than liveCD. Ofc, it's possible though. I'll just stick with .04 for now though :P
[16:03] <freshinstall> had to kill it to get this thing to boot up properly - it's an HP elitebook - ron
[16:03] <neo84> After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[16:03] <morsedl3> ron: it might be related to system dbus errors.  this futzed for me during upgrade and i could not get networking nor display to work (ati fglx drivers).
[16:03] <cutiyar> how to terminal console while booting to enter Fsck to fix , because its not turnning on
[16:03] <donofrio> meowsus, I fingured everyone could befit from the info (plus xchat is *not* konversation)
[16:03] <morsedl3> ron: look for system dbus / cannot connect to dbus errors in /var/log/syslog.
[16:03] <mne> reisio, from what I can see in the cryptsetup man page, there is no way to obtain keys from the LUKS header
[16:03] <freshinstall> erin, 60c is OK
[16:04] <reisio> mne: ask ##linux
[16:04] <freshinstall> not cool, but 90c is hot
[16:04] <ron> freshinstall, morsedl3 : okay, that's possible. I'm on ion, so the nvidia drivers could be at fault. okay, let me check the logs.
[16:04] <cutiyar> how to terminal console while booting to enter Fsck to fix , because its not turnning on
[16:04] <morsedl3> ron: if you find that, then what worked for me might work for you.  boot into recovery mode, choose the option to remount filesystems as read-write (default recovery now mounts the root filesystem readonly).
[16:04] <erin> freshinstall, but running xchat only on xfwm? might be dust in side im thinking need canned air.
[16:05] <donofrio> meowsus, I'm on PM
[16:05] <freshinstall> ron i did this -> sudo su -, set root password (passwd), <alt><f1> -> login as root, startx, remove prop. drivers, reboot, all good :-)
[16:05] <debg> Hi all, anyone knows how to setup dual boot Windows 7 and ubuntu on an UEFI based Bios
[16:05] <freshinstall> ron, oh, alt-f1 was the first thing (or ctrl-alt-f1)
[16:05] <ron> freshinstall: did you reinstall the prop. drivers afterall?
[16:05] <erin> debg, whats a uefi bios?
[16:05] <freshinstall> ron, no
[16:06] <ron> freshinstall: I think I need those :-/
[16:06] <morsedl3> ron: then, as root user, 'mv /var/run/* /run; mv /var/lock/* /run/lock; rm -rf /var/run; rm -rf /var/lock; ln -s /run /var/run; ln -s /run/lock /var/lock'.
[16:06] <reisio> erin: a thing
[16:06] <morsedl3> ron: then reboot and see if you get your X back
[16:06] <graingert> erin: there is no such thing as a uefi bios
[16:06] <graingert> it's a uefi
[16:06] <shaye> I am used to mint, it seems I cant get my inspiron 1501 to hook wirelessly to ubuntu 11.10??? help.
[16:06] <freshinstall> erin, should clean out heatsinks yearly, esp if you use it on fabric/have a dusty room/have intakes on the underside
[16:06] <graingert> uefi replaced bios
[16:06] <debg> yes, uefi based laptop ,
[16:06] <graingert> shaye: what does that mean?
[16:07] <shaye> I loaded the brodcom driver but can not get hooked to a wireless network
[16:07] <graingert> shaye: laptops can't hook wirelessly to operating systems so that's WAD
[16:07] <fVckingmania> people I have a problem with postfix + clamsmtp this is the error log I get from postfix "" 11:56:44 mail October 14 postfix / master [3592]: fatal: bind 127.0.0.1 port 10025: Address already in use ""
[16:07] <erin> freshinstall, well getting all the way to the sink its self isn't an option since it's a laptop and super complicated to take apart/back together so hopefully I can get canned air hose in the vent pretty far.
[16:07] <shaye> yes it did hook with mint
[16:07] <zikalify> hi did an upgrade using 11.10 disc, looked at my software sources and only ones ticked are 'independent' and 'independent (source code)' can someone help me via pm?
[16:08] <freshinstall> erin, use your vacuum cleaner
[16:08] <shaye> with mint i needed a wired connection to load restricted drivers then it worked
[16:08] <erin> freshinstall, like a shopvac hose on the bottom fan?
[16:08] <pisto> can someone explain me what has replaced the synaptic package manager and most importantly how the heck I run it
[16:08] <freshinstall> erin, suck on the intake, so the dust travels back in the direction it came from - if you blow it you'll just send it deeper inside ;-)
[16:08] <graingert> shaye: no it didn't. it connected to a wireless network. Your laptop did not, however, hook wirelessly with mint"
[16:08] <reisio> pisto: 'software center', IIRC
[16:08] <Reaper> so is there no ubuntu classic? or is it called 2d?
[16:08] <graingert> shaye: did you try running jocky-gtk
[16:09] <graingert> Reaper: gnome-classic is available
[16:09] <erin> freshinstall, so the back vent or the bottom fan? im guessing the back vent is the intake ?
[16:09] <shaye> no i am not knowing this
[16:09] <airtonix> any idea how to handle nautilus-scripts with nautilus3 ?
[16:09] <Reaper> how do you get to it?
[16:09] <graingert> shaye: okay well have you got a connection?
[16:09] <Squeeb> Hai Reaper
[16:09] <fVckingmania> pisto, you got to install  it!
[16:09] <graingert> shaye: and how did you "load the brodcom drivers"
[16:09] <freshinstall> erin, umm depends on the model.  thinkpads suck from the back
[16:09] <shaye> yes, wired
[16:09] <Reaper> hello
[16:09] <reisio> Reaper: there's gnome-shell (GNOME 3) / gnome-tweak-tool / gnome-panel
[16:09] <erin> freshinstall, HP
[16:09] <Squeeb> Maybe you're a different Reaper than I know
[16:09] <Squeeb> :P
[16:09] <freshinstall> erin, elitebooks suck from underside
[16:09] <Reaper> yeah I think so lol
[16:09] <graingert> shaye: run jocky-gtk
[16:10] <shaye> it gave me an optio to activate the driver
[16:10] <morsedl3> has anyone had problems with software-center breaking after upgrading (not fresh install)?  no matter what i try, software-center gets stuck in a loop, continually prompting to repair the catalog.  relatedly, update-notifier reports BrokenCount: > 0 and shows an alert and recommends running apt-get.  However, i have NO dependency issues with the apt system from the command line.  apt-get -f install shows no problems, 0 packages he
[16:10] <morsedl3> ld, to upgrade, to remove, etc.  i've also tried dpkg --configure -a, but no joy.
[16:10] <Reaper> thanx reisio
[16:10] <shaye> stand by please
[16:10] <graingert> shaye: run lsusb and pastebin the output
[16:10] <shaye> ????
[16:10] <fritsch> !pastebin | shaye
[16:10] <shaye> this talk i do not understand
[16:10] <sianhulo> somebody knows how to boot with an usb by grub?
[16:10] <TRider> I have problems installing ubuntu. I get error 22 i think during the ''grab process''.
[16:11]  * freshinstall never understood why make a *lap*top try to breathe from underside
[16:11] <jochenh_> hey! if I start my installed 11.10 the monitor shows: "Mode not supported", so I cannot start anything. Please help!
[16:11] <wad> Just upgraded to 11.10, but there seems to be no way to set up the screensavers anymore... where did it go?
[16:12] <graingert> shaye: pastebin the output of the command "lsusb" and send me the link
[16:12] <joe2371> Hello, folks.
[16:12] <pagan0ne> anyone know how to get nautilus setback up with a "up" button? upgraded to 11.10 and installed gnome because i dont like unity
[16:12] <graingert> shaye: please tag me when you talk to me so I can see you have responded
[16:12] <morsedl3> wad: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html might help, it talks about no screen savers in gnome, although i'm not sure if that also applies to unity
[16:13] <wad> morsedl3, thanks!
[16:13] <shaye> i am sorry i do not understnd
[16:13] <morsedl3> wad: np
[16:13] <ron> freshinstall, morsedl3: apparently, if I try to log in as a different user, it works fine. any idea?
[16:13] <joe2371> So... Oneric...
[16:13] <morsedl3> ron: hmmm... not sure.  have you tried logging in using unity2d?
[16:14] <joe2371> Anyone know how to get a working toolchain in 11.10?
[16:14] <morsedl3> ron: (just to see if perhaps it's compiz related)
[16:14] <ron> morsedl3: let me check
[16:14] <douggle> Hi can anyone tell me what is the best way to replace alsa?  wine is crashing  every time initialize an audio connection
[16:14] <ron> morsedl3: nope, doesn't work.
[16:14] <freshinstall> ron, left over settings?  dunno.
[16:15] <trb> I am trying to add a file to the etc/udev/rules.d location and it is denying me permission how can I do this?
[16:15] <reisio> douggle: better to fix Wine
[16:15] <TRider> I have problems installing ubuntu. I get error 22 i think during the ''grab process''.
[16:15] <chiara> hi i have a problem with ... hdmi and ndvidia. I have desktop pc ...
[16:15] <reisio> douggle: or instead use an app that is native
[16:15] <graingert> douggle: try using OpenAL
[16:15] <jakemp> how do I get shell scripts to run from my dash?
[16:15] <reisio> jakemp: same way you do with any other shell
[16:15] <Guest80177> I've installed Gnome themes through applet - the problem is the theme is installed only for 1 user. I'd like to make it global. But I'm not sure what I need to copy to have all components which I've installed (borders, buttons, icons)
[16:15] <freshinstall> wow I'm FURIOUS I'm being forced into learning a new UI.
[16:15] <reisio> freshinstall: you aren't
[16:16] <douggle> you arent being forced into anything. i m not using unity.
[16:16] <freshinstall> reisio, any ideas how to install gnome2? :-)
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> freshinstall: why? if you don't like, use something else, it's what i do
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> it*
[16:16] <douggle> use gnome-shell
[16:16] <tommis> freshinstall, you are not forced
[16:16] <serengeti> hello :) I've installed gnome shell in oneiric and everything works well, apart from one thing: when I browse applications in the overlay, most apps are duplicated. For example, there are 2 entries for Firefox, one with a nice icon from the icon from the icon theme, and the other with some low-res image. Any ideas?
[16:16] <tommis> serengeti, it is a bug
[16:17] <freshinstall> i'm more referring to gnome than ubuntu
[16:17] <morsedl3> anyone having problems with WOL after upgrade?  it was working fine in Natty, but now, no matter what i do, it won't work.
[16:17] <jakemp> reisio, I have already made it executable, but when I open it in the dash, it opens the script in gedit.
[16:17] <tommis> i heard someone had the same problem
[16:17] <ron> the odd thing is that the guest session works fine. so it must be something wrong with my user profile.
[16:17] <jochenh_> Hey! If I start my fresh installed, the Monitor says: "Mode not supported" , it doesn't load anything, please help!
[16:17] <morsedl3> ron: k
[16:17] <reisio> jakemp: when you do what?
[16:17] <majdekalel> is there any tool for ubuntu to trim audio ???
[16:17] <shaye> i do not see an option to hook wirelessly?
[16:17] <ron> can anyone think of a way to fix it (other than creating a new user)?
[16:17] <pagan0ne> anyone have any idea how to get nautilus to have a "up" button again, navigation sucks now
[16:17] <serengeti> tommis: ok, I guess I'll look for the bug report
[16:17] <reisio> freshinstall: just use gnome-shell with gnome-panel
[16:17] <graingert> douggle: yeah upgrade to latest PPA wine
[16:17] <reisio> majdekalel: trim?
[16:17] <sianhulo> people, i want to boot from my pendrive by grub, what i have to do?
[16:17] <douggle> okay
[16:18] <douggle> i ll try that
[16:18] <graingert> douggle: they have good audio support
[16:18] <majdekalel> cut audio
[16:18] <Reaper> ack! lol must get back to classic ubuntu look
[16:18] <jakemp> reisio, when I type in the name of the script and hit enter in the dash
[16:18] <majdekalel> split or cut or trim
[16:18] <neo84> Help friends
[16:18] <neo84>  After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[16:18] <craigbass1976> Anyone ever ran adobe connect on ubuntu?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: use unetbootin, it's wahat i do
[16:18] <sandstrom> What can I do if top shows too much information? (a ton of processes, starting at pid 1..~150) http://pastie.org/2695634
[16:18] <jochenh_> majdekalel: audacity
[16:18] <morsedl3> ron: anything in syslog or .xsession-errors (in your homedir) thats revealing?
[16:18] <majdekalel> ok thank you i will try it
[16:18] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, that's for booting by the BIOS, i want to boot by GRUB
[16:19] <nixmaniack> which connection manager is default in 11.10? I have messed up with ConnMan and Network Manger. how do I restore it
[16:19] <trb> I am trying to add a file to the etc/udev/rules.d location and it is denying me permission how can I do this?
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: unetbootin can put the live iso into grub, it's how i'm here as we speak
[16:19] <trb> The file is simply this... File name 98-bispirate.rules  and contains this statement... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"
[16:19] <douggle> i m a try using wine 1.2 since i m using 1.3.28
[16:19] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk with no partitions and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ?
[16:19] <ron> morsedl3: I'll check. god I hate unity.
[16:20] <graingert> douggle: 1.3.30 has openal
[16:20] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, but the question is "how"
[16:20] <trb> the directory denys me permission
[16:20] <bng> reisio: its bbbenji. alternative .iso doesnt see my partitions either:(
[16:20] <morsedl3> ron: also: are you using default or proprietary nvidia drivers?
[16:20] <bahamas> hello. can i ask questions about ubuntu one here?
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: in unetbootin, choose "harddrive" instead of "USB stick"
[16:20] <ron> morsedl3: afair, proprietary.
[16:20] <bng> yes bahamas
[16:20] <reisio> bahamas: remains to be seen
[16:20] <DX099> hello, all i lost my sudoers file... it's just gone... i tought it was in some backup but it wasn't... is there any way to recreate it ?
[16:21] <djskidd> msg nickserv identify derp
[16:21] <djskidd> CraP
[16:21] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, but imean, how to make grub to work with it
[16:21] <Guest80177> ?
[16:21] <bahamas> reisio: what does that mean?
[16:21] <Guest52750> i used to be able to back up all my system debs from /var/cache/apt/archives, but they're not all there anymore, just a few... where where they moved to?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: are you familiar with unetbootin?
[16:21] <sianhulo> grub support USB because someone helped me with that a year ago or so,but now i have the deafult configuration of grub
[16:21] <freshinstall> ok gnome3 is ok :-) I get it now, just need to avoid "gnome classic" as it's not.
[16:21] <trb> I am trying to add a file to the etc/udev/rules.d location and it is denying me permission how can I do this?
[16:21] <graingert> DX099: do you know if you lost anything else?
[16:21] <reisio> bahamas: just what it means
[16:21] <nixmaniack> which connection manager is default in 11.10? I have messed up with ConnMan and Network Manager. how do I restore it?
[16:22] <reisio> trb: sudo
[16:22] <bng> trb: do it as sudo
[16:22] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, i've used it, but just with BIOS not for booting by GRUB
[16:22] <graingert> DX099: it's safest to copy your homedir and then re-install
[16:22] <morsedl3> ron: you may want to remove those and just try the non-proprietary drivers, just to see if that works.  if so, then simply 'apt-get purge'-ing the properietary drivers and then re-installing that might work (at least, that worked for me when going from lucid to natty)
[16:22] <trb> how does that work
[16:22] <djskidd> ah I need an offtopic chat
[16:22] <bng> anyone know why ubuntu installer and gparted dont see my partitions while fdisk does?
[16:22] <djskidd> interested anyone?
[16:22] <neo84> :'(
[16:22] <trb> what would be the terminal command
[16:22] <djskidd> OW
[16:22] <DX099> graingert, i wanted to avoid this...
[16:22] <trb> sudo ?
[16:23] <dr_willis> trb:  you gain root rights via sudo. correct
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: choose the live iso you want, then below: choose harddisk, it's self explanatory
[16:23] <bng> sudo mv file /etc/udev/rules.d
[16:23] <bng> trb
[16:23] <freshinstall> bng, that's why it's good to use "try" instead of "install" so you can call up a shell and look at those things....
[16:23] <toumbo> Excelent work on oneiric!!!!! :D
[16:23] <DX099> graingert, thx anyway
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: then go back to grub and choose unetbootin
[16:23] <Mattsyco> Hey all, how do I unpack/run a .run file?
[16:23] <dr_willis> Mattsyco:  what is it exactly?
[16:23] <nixmaniack> which connection manager is default in 11.10? I have messed up with ConnMan and Network Manger. how do I restore it
[16:23] <graingert> DX099: if you lost sudoers you probably lost a lot more
[16:24] <DX099> :/
[16:24] <bng> freshinstall: youre talking about booting into live cd? thats how i figured out fdisk sees the partitions, but im not sure how to diagnose the problem
[16:24] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust,  YES, but i want to boot by grub not by BIOS, my BIOS doesn't support it(and it's supposed to)so, i want to boot by GRUb that I know works
[16:24] <trb> I'm sorry I have colied some sudo commands off the internet and they have worked but I don't know how to move the file from my home trb directory to the etc/udev'rules.d directory  what would be the sudo command?
[16:24] <ron> morsedl3: can you help me a bit more with the apt-get purge command? I'm not sure how to find the nvidia drivers in order to purge those.
[16:24] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, the problem is that if i don't change nothing, grub wont know unetbootin is in there
[16:24] <bng> freshinstall: ive tried the alternative .iso as well. doesnt recognize either
[16:24] <Mattsyco> one of the games from the humblebundle dr_willis
[16:24] <edbian> sianhulo: the computer turns on, bios takes over, bios hands things over to grub, grub hands things over to the OS.  YOu cannot skip the bios with efi or something
[16:24] <freshinstall> bng, yep, that's a weird one.  if you don't care then just use "entire disk" otherwise *proceed very carefully* :-)
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: that's how i do by grub, can't say about BIOS, maybe someone else can help :)
[16:25] <dr_willis> Mattsyco:  chmod +x foo.run, then ./foo.run
[16:25] <bng> freshinstall: thats the thing:( i have two partitions i do not want to lose
[16:25] <ron> morsedl3: I also checked the .xsession-error file, and I don't think the log is related to the problem. it's last entry is from about an hour ago and since I've tried logging in a few times.
[16:25] <morsedl3> ron: worst case, you may just have to backup your homedir, create a new account, and then moving everything over to the new account *except* your "dotfiles" (i.e., /home/ron/.*').  then, manually move over your dotfiles, excluding .gconf* .gnome* .cache* and the like -- anything that seems system / desktop related.  i had to do this from lucid to natty -- it was a bit of a pain, but it was actually good to clean out some of the "c
[16:25] <morsedl3> rud" in my dotfiles.
[16:25] <neo84>  After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[16:25] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, I mean to use GRUB, however GRUB wont know it is unetbootin itself
[16:25] <Guest52750> where does it save all the deb files? used to be in /var/cache/apt/archives, but that only contains a few.
[16:25] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk with no partitions and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ? It was working 2 days ago. plz help
[16:26] <Mattsyco> dr_willis: thanks, I will give it a try
[16:26] <sianhulo> at least mine
[16:26] <ron> morsedl3: yeah, I'd rather do that only as a last resort ;)
[16:26] <B0g4r7> Ah yes, I got the 11.10 upgrade notice thing today.  So I had one question about 11.10: Is it still possible to turn off Unity in 11.10?
[16:26] <morsedl3> ron: k.  it sounds like you there's some leftover config issue.  first, though, you might try 'rm -rf /home/ron/.cache' (while not logged into X) -- that's helped me in the past, too.
[16:26] <saml> hey, i upgraded to 11.10 ..  can I disable gnome and use openbox only?
[16:26] <dr_willis> saml:  yes
[16:26] <trb> the book I have is junk and cant explain evn the simplist command of moving a directory
[16:26] <edbian> B0g4r7: yes, but gnome2 is gone
[16:26] <djskidd> Anyone know how I can get VirtualDJ to work under ubuntu? (ahem, http://www.virtualdj.com)
[16:26] <edbian> saml: sure
[16:27] <saml> how can i do so? i modified /etc/init/gdm.conf   to stop on runlevel 2
[16:27] <dr_willis> !cli | trb
[16:27] <saml> my idea is to boot to console.. and execute startx  and put openbox on .xinitrc
[16:27] <dr_willis> saml:  ubuntu dosent use runlevels...
[16:27] <Squeeb> saml: /etc/inittab ?
[16:27] <Squeeb> oh
[16:27] <Squeeb> disregard
[16:27] <B0g4r7> edbian, er, so if I disable Unity I'll be left with...what then?  Just an X Server?
[16:27] <dr_willis> !text | saml
[16:27] <Guest52750> saml, disbale, or uninstall? it would be rather easy to just install openbox, and then log out, and choose openbox in the options on the bottom right.
[16:27] <edbian> saml: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop (and install something else of course)
[16:27] <shaye> i have actavated the brodcom driver in ubuntu 11.10 and still do not have a wireless option ??
[16:27] <morsedl3> ron: to find the packages, just run 'dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia' -- the package names should be in the resulting list
[16:27] <edbian> B0g4r7: gnome3 by default.  But you can install others
[16:27] <Phr3d13> ccsm keeps crashing with segmentation faults, how do i fix it?
[16:28] <saml> Guest52750, choosing Openbox on lightdm does not work..
[16:28] <B0g4r7> edbian, hmm...thanks.  I think I'll install in a VM before blindly upgrading important systems.
[16:28] <saml> i mean.. i can't login with choosing openbox only.. i need to chose Gnome/Openbox
[16:28] <Guest52750> where is the debs saved now? couldnt find it in /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:28] <edbian> B0g4r7: sounds good :)
[16:28] <Guest52750> saml, does it just not show you the option, or?
[16:28] <edbian> Guest52750: I think a system upgrade it clears that cache
[16:28] <dr_willis> saml:  you could make a simple openbox session  openbox.desktop file for the xdm to use
[16:28] <edbian> Guest52750: so they'll accumulate as you install things again
[16:28] <Guest52750> edbian, no system upgrade performed.
[16:29] <saml> dr_willis, how can i do that? just touch the file?
[16:29] <edbian> Guest52750: did you run apt-get clean or aptitude autoclean or something?
[16:29] <freshinstall> later..........
[16:29] <nemo> Hey. Quick question.  Does Ubuntu 11.10 include GTK Broadway?
[16:29] <Guest52750> edbian, no.
[16:29] <dr_willis> saml:  look at the gnome.desktop file for an example
[16:29] <o_> salm: try "openbox --replace" in terminal
[16:29] <cousin_luigi> hello
[16:29] <saml> and gvim is funky
[16:29] <cousin_luigi> Is there a way to avoid UFW polluting the syslog?
[16:29] <donofrio> ***B43*** 11.10 - does anyone have a working command for the 4306 rev3 card?
[16:29] <edbian> Guest52750: i'm not sure, that's where they go though :)
[16:30] <edbian> donofrio: i have that card, I can get it working
[16:30] <edbian> donofrio: I can not help you right now.  Wanna meet up later?
[16:30] <Mattsyco> ok, have an Error message saying libglade-2.0.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64      the 0's have dots in them
[16:30] <Guest52750> edbian, thanks for the info. this used to work on the other verisons, i.e. 10.04 and 10.10. i wish it would not clean things out, my net speed is sloooow.
[16:30] <saml> where is gnome.desktop located?
[16:30] <zastaph> can someone help me to get Ubuntu working after I upgraded 11.04 to 11.10 in virtualbox? its just stuck at the Ubuntu logo when starting up now, no disk activity after a while
[16:30] <edbian> Guest52750: maybe the disk if ull?
[16:30] <dr_willis> saml:  try 'locate gnome.desktop'
[16:31] <djalone> ne
[16:31] <donofrio> edbian, PM me how to get it working
[16:31] <edbian> donofrio: I do not have time.  I'm leaving in 1 minute.  I can help you later.
[16:31] <Guest52750> edbian, no, it's a 320gb disk with 8gb used. LOL. thanks for the help though... over and out from hylian :)
[16:31] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:31] <donofrio> any urls before you go?
[16:31] <morsedl3> ron: removing .gconfd/saved_state has also helped me clear up such problems in the past...
[16:31] <ron> morsedl3: okay, the .cache deletion didn't help. purging the nvidia drivers.
[16:31] <sianhulo> people, i have a hp pavilion laptop, wifi doesn't work(neither ethernet)
[16:32] <edbian> donofrio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:32] <ron> morsedl3: btw, I really appreciate the help.
[16:32] <edbian> Guest53835: I know you! :D  cya
[16:32] <foo> If you saw these errors, and then your system froze, what would you do? http://pastebin.com/eft4M7jq
[16:33] <rafal> witam
[16:33] <rafal> zainstalowałem sobie xubuntu 11.10
[16:33] <oCean> !pl | rafal
[16:34] <frewsxcv> is there any reason why ubuntu hasn't updated their releases in their rsync mirror?
[16:35] <Phr3d13> ccsm keeps crashing with segmentation faults - http://pastie.org/2695736
[16:35] <IppatsuMan> Hi all. I am using the Broadcom STA driver for my BCM4312. I moved from US to Europe, and my card does not recognize WiFi network on channels 12 and 13. Apparently, you can switch to Europe regulations and access those channels by running "iw reg set DE" (for Germany), but the Broadcom driver does not recognize it. Any hint on how to fix this?
[16:35] <douggle> that did it with the wine swap
[16:35] <douggle> :)
[16:35] <ron> morsedl3: okay, I may have messed up :p
[16:35] <[]Tsukasa[]> Samba: how can i configure the share so windows doesn't need any user account to login with. in smb.conf I have masks set to 777 and guest ok
[16:36] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk with no partitions and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ? It was working 2 days ago. plz help
[16:36] <morsedl3> ron: sure thing.  i have to log off irc now, but if you get really stuck, shoot an email to dm at dougmorse dot org and i'll see if can't help further.  btw, the "key" dotfiles you might want to move at of the way (e.g., move .gconf .gconf-keepme) are .gconf, .gconfd, .cache, .config, .dbus, .compiz*, .gnome*, and perhaps .X* and .xinitrc (if you have one).
[16:36] <morsedl3> ron: uh-oh.  what's up?
[16:36] <sgs2_usr> how do i configure the lcd brightness in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:37] <Phr3d13> ccsm keeps crashing with segmentation faults - http://pastie.org/2695736
[16:37] <ron> morsedl3: I may have purged too much. my tv now shows weird lines :p I can still ssh to the machine. reinstalling the drivers now, but it'll take a while. thanks for the help, I'll follow your suggestions.
[16:38] <genii-around> []Tsukasa[]: You probably also want then something like map to guest = bad user
[16:38] <trb_> I'm sorry I got disconnected from xchat please help
[16:38] <trb_> I am trying to add a file to the etc/udev/rules.d location and it is denying me permission how can I do this
[16:38] <llutz> trb_: sudo cp file /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:39] <Phr3d13> trb_, gksudo gedit etc/udev/rules.d
[16:39] <llutz> trb_: sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/yourrules.rules
[16:39] <dr_willis> trb_:  you allready have the file made?
[16:39] <bng> pico > nano
[16:39] <morsedl3> ron: k.  yeah, i should have mentioned that -- sometimes removing drivers causes all of X11 (xorg stuff) to be removed, which is not what you want.  you can recover from that, though, simply by reinstalling xorg, xserver-xorg, xserver-org-core and the like.
[16:39] <favila> anyway to disable lock screen after suspend  using Ocelot
[16:40] <trb_> The file is simply this... File name yes the file is in the home trb directory
[16:40] <c_smith> my sound is not coming out, even on login, I looked in the hardware tab of the sound app, there were no devices listed, can someone help me here? I do have an intel sound device in this laptop.
[16:40] <conntrack> Give me a cup and string anyday
[16:40] <trb_> The file is simply this... File name 98-bispirate.rules  and contains this statement... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"
[16:40] <Tuttingham> can i join any normal irc channel?
[16:40] <morsedl3> ron: most my machines are ati right now (ugh -- i don't recommend; if find nvidia to be much better w. linux support).
[16:40] <reisio> Tuttingham: why couldn't you
[16:40] <llutz> trb_: sudo cp  ~trb/98-bispirate.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:40] <c_smith> Tuttingham, not the #ubuntu-release-party channel.
[16:40] <Tuttingham> nope
[16:40] <dr_willis> Hmm. The installer is a bit missleading i notice.. Im installing ubuntu to a seperate hard drive. and its saying 'replace windows 7 with ubuntu'  it shouldent be touching windows 7 at all. :) its on the OTHER hard drive
[16:40] <Tuttingham> ahh
[16:40] <sgs2_usr> my HP EliteBook 8540w laptop lcd brightness control does not remember the setting, how do I fix that?
[16:40] <saml> which log do I look at?  I have /usr/share/xsessions/openbox.desktop   but when I select Openbox.. It comes back to login screen
[16:41] <saml> I want to use openbox only.
[16:41] <trb_> let me give it a try...
[16:41] <reisio> dr_willis: sep-a-rate
[16:41] <saml> I did apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[16:41] <ron> morsedl3: hmm, any idea where I can get an exact list of xorg stuff to install?
[16:41] <Efrin> hmm...
[16:41] <c_smith> did I phrase my question right?
[16:42] <dr_willis> reisio:  i-dont-care :)
[16:42] <c_smith> tried to give all the information I had.
[16:42] <djskidd> How can I get my PGP key?
[16:42] <reisio> dr_willis: I noticed
[16:42] <djskidd> Ahem, OpenPGP key?
[16:42] <morsedl3> ron: i would think installing xorg and xserver-xorg would trigger all the necessary dependencies as well.
[16:42] <sgs2_usr> is this the right channle to ask specific question on Ubuntu 11.10?
[16:42] <c_smith> djskidd, do you mean OpenPGP key or GPG key?
[16:43] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk with no partitions and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ? It was working 2 days ago. plz help
[16:43] <Efrin> I have ubuntu 11.10 a try and really I cant work with unity and gnome3. Are there any ubuntu-like distros with simple GUI (gnome 2) or something?
[16:43] <Efrin> i gave*
[16:43] <saml> with 11.10,  can I go back to classic gnome?
[16:43] <snikker> just a curiosity, why Ubuntu was released yesterday, instead of the 20 of October as scheduled?
[16:43] <ron> morsedl3: they're already installed :-/
[16:43] <saml> i don't want unity
[16:43] <dr_willis> TRider:  the phrase 'install on a hard drive with no parittions' seems.. weird.. if you are installint to a hard drive. you make partitions to install to...
[16:43] <djskidd> Launchpad says OpenPGP, but says to use a GPG command
[16:43] <morsedl3> ron: you might also need to specifically ask for the ubuntu-disto nvidia driver, which i would think is xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
[16:43] <ron> morsedl3: I really don't want to keep you waiting.
[16:43] <Efrin> saml: it has classic gnome - but "non editable"
[16:44] <c_smith> snikker, yesterday was  the .scheduled day
[16:44] <Pici> djskidd: they're interchangable.
[16:44] <dr_willis> saml:  theres other desktops you can install, or tweak and roll your own
[16:44] <saml> i don't understand.. i want compiz, unity  out.
[16:44] <djskidd> Okay, so how do I get it so I can sign the Ubuntu code of conduct so I can be op?
[16:44] <morsedl3> ron: no worries.  i'll stay online, i just might be a bit slower to respond.  i don't have to be anywhere, just need to focus on writing... :)
[16:44] <Tuttingham> so is there a way to join channels using this client or not?
[16:44] <snikker> c_smith: but the scheduled day, wasn't the 20 or the 23? or i'm wrong?
[16:44] <ron> morsedl3: a book? :)
[16:45] <c_smith> heh, "I can fix anything, i have root!" should be "I can break everything, I have root!"
[16:45] <jdoe> I'm trying to install 11.10 on a machine with an nvidia graphics card, but as soon as hit "install ubuntu" from the cd, the screen goes blank and the system goes unresponsive. The nomodeset option doesn't seem to help. Any suggestions?
[16:45] <morsedl3> ron: dissertation work.
[16:45] <ron> morsedl3: even worse! good luck :)
[16:45] <morsedl3> ron: :)
[16:45] <c_smith> snikker, no, 20th and 23rd are both wrong, it was always set for the 13th.
[16:45] <dr_willis> saml:  last i noticed. when i isntalled openbox, or fluxbox, or icewm, or others.. they added a entry to the login GDM/whateverDM menus. If they dont. You can make your own. Or make a .xinitrc or .xsession file and just go to the console and use 'startx' to run exactly what you want
[16:45] <TRider> ok probably you re right. I install it using the standard process and I get error 22. Could it be a HD problem ?
[16:45] <trb_> I am getting this statement?
[16:45] <trb_> trb@trb-desktop:~$ sudo cp  ~trb/98-bispirate.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:45] <trb_> cp: cannot stat `/home/trb/98-bispirate.rules': No such file or director
[16:45] <dr_willis> trb_:  you need a ~/ for the path...
[16:45] <snikker> c_smith: ok, i remember bad
[16:45] <llutz> trb_: then its not in trbs home
[16:45] <saml> dr_willis, i have openbox entry.. when i select.. it goes back to login screen
[16:45] <dr_willis> trb_:  or dont use the full path.
[16:46] <dr_willis> saml:  file a bug.
[16:46] <c_smith> is there anyone here who can help me with, *ahem* my lack of audio?
[16:46] <dr_willis> saml:  try  the .xsession/startx method see if theres any errors
[16:46] <trb_> let me fool with it
[16:46] <ron> morsedl3: can't find the package you suggested. trying o look around.
[16:46] <conntrack> haha
[16:46] <morsedl3> ron: have u installed apt-cache?
[16:46] <Timo__> hi. is it possible to make an persistent home? my laptop cant boot from usb :(
[16:46] <saml> dr_willis, how do I get to the prompt?  grub  text kernel option is the only way?
[16:46] <Tuttingham> can anyone tell me?
[16:46] <ron> morsedl3: of course!
[16:46] <morsedl3> ron: 'apt-cache search nvidia' should help
[16:47] <ron> morsedl3: what is it? :p
[16:47] <dr_willis> saml:  thats the easiest way
[16:47] <dr_willis> !text | saml
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[16:47] <saml> thanks
[16:47] <ron> morsedl3: I see.. nice.
[16:47] <donofrio> b43 - 4306 rev 3 11.10 need help getting it working tinyurl.com/b43-not-working-in-11-10
[16:47] <ron> morsedl3: you silly you. it was xserver-xorg-video-nv
[16:47] <kallisti5> is it just me or does ubuntu not just "work" on almost any machines like it used to?  I have HP workstations, Dell desktops, Dell laptops, Acer netbooks, Radeon HD 4xxx, Intel extreme, Nvidia... and *NONE* of them just work. Unity graphics corruption, Gnome 3 graphics corruption, lots of failing
[16:47] <c_smith> heh, I came across that trying to figure it out myself, let me pastebin the contents.
[16:47] <Jukken> I just downloaded Ubuntu 11.10....when the desktop and install-thingy comes up - all the colors are totally out of whack...can't even read what the installation says... any ideas?
[16:48] <ron> morsedl3: which apparently is already installed :-/
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: the command makes a link if you select to upload to the server ;)
[16:48] <dr_willis> Jukken:  your video card/chipset is what?
[16:48] <morsedl3> ron: yep.  apt-cache and apt-file are very helpful.  apt-file lets you search in reverse, e.g., if i want to know what package installed /etc/motd, i run 'apt-file search /etc/motd'
[16:48] <c_smith> cool, I'll do that,
[16:48] <reisio> Jukken: nvidia? :)
[16:48] <ron> morsedl3: nice. I'll try to remember that.
[16:48] <saml> what file do I edit for grub?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 is too long
[16:48] <Jukken> Geforce 6800 ultra  ...workes fine in anything else
[16:48] <broxi> hello, im looking for help installing 11.10 please
[16:49] <f0x09> is there any sftp client for xubuntu like that one for ubuntu connect to server
[16:49] <reisio> saml: read the bit about 40_custom
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> saml: what do you want to achieve?
[16:49] <harryrichardson> broxi: what kind of help?
[16:49] <saml> reisio, thanks
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> f0x09: filezilla will do it
[16:49] <c_smith> my ALSA info: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9317914ac35303a318344856677c1f22217cf00c
[16:49] <saml> ActionParsnip, text boot
[16:49] <morsedl3> ron: so, are you at least back to where you re: at least logging in under a new account works?
[16:49] <trb_> YES YES!!!  after I corrected some spellin... sudo cp  ~trb/98-buspirate.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:49] <dr_willis> saml:  at the grub menu, you edit a line, and do like it said.. append 'text' to the end of the kernel line.. 'quiet nosplash text'
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> saml: add the boot option:   text
[16:49] <ron> morsedl3: nope. still no display.
[16:49] <dr_willis> saml:  or if you want it perment you eidt the grub config files in /etc/default like the docs say
[16:49] <usertwo> i installed thunar as an alternative to nautilus and its also extremely slow, so i guess i have some other issues with file management. anyone any ideas? i tried most of the online tricks for nautilus but no effect
[16:49] <morsedl3> ron: hmm... but that had been working, correct?
[16:49] <tutt_> i'm using a diffrent client now
[16:49] <trb_> Now hopefully the file simply this... File name 98-bispirate.rules  and contains this statement... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate
[16:49] <reisio> usertwo: tricks?
[16:50] <broxi> im having problems with what seems to be my nvidia card, wont boot to login
[16:50] <trb_> Will work
[16:50] <morsedl3> ron: i.e., with a new account (not your existing one)
[16:50] <ron> morsedl3: before the nvidia purging havoc? sure.
[16:50] <c_smith> funny thing is, my audio card doesn't appear in my sound menu
[16:50] <usertwo> everything else works well but file management hangs
[16:50] <llutz> trb_: you should learn to use bash-completion (tab completion)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: ok and what is the issue?
[16:50] <harryrichardson> broxi: are you getting any errors, do you get booted into a command line, do you get a kernel panic?
[16:50] <ron> morsedl3: sec, I have a hunch.
[16:50] <trb_> Yess Yess now that I corrected some spellinng the file is showing up in that dir
[16:50] <morsedl3> ron: k.
[16:51] <dr_willis> !tab | trb_
[16:51] <broxi> no harryrichardson it stops at checking battery state
[16:51] <dr_willis> "_
[16:51] <trb_> sudo cp  ~trb/98-buspirate.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:51] <tutt_> ANYONE KNOW WHY IT SAYS I'M OWNER OF A CHANNEL I KNOW ISINT MINE??
[16:51] <tutt_> oops caps
[16:51] <dr_willis> trb_:  thats wrong... its NOT ~trb   it could be ~/trb/
[16:51] <sauroman_> is there any pe files explorer for windows?
[16:51] <ron> morsedl3: okay, rebooting. the machine is also my irc bouncer, so I'll be d/c.
[16:51] <llutz> dr_willis: you're wrong
[16:51] <llutz> dr_willis: ~trb or /home/trb
[16:51] <morsedl3> ron: k.
[16:51] <dr_willis> yea 2 more typos make a wronger one :)
[16:51] <douggle> i guess it was just an issue with that particular build of wine because i didnt even have to do the open al thing
[16:51] <dr_willis> i corrected him earlier..
[16:52] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, simple: I have no audio even in login, and my audio device doesn't appear.
[16:52] <trb_> it was buspirate not bispirate  stupid syntax
[16:52] <Jukken> Anyone have any ideas what to do...can hardly see anything at the installation...it's all messed up
[16:52] <dr_willis> i never use the ~ shortcut :) i find it causes to many issues
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: add:    options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1      to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:52] <c_smith> k
[16:52] <maxagaz> hi
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: could use $HOME instead;)
[16:52] <llutz> dr_willis: i always use ~ because you don't have to fiddle with pathes :)
[16:52] <tutt_> i'm begging anyone to tell me how to join channels
[16:52] <foo> If you saw these errors, and then your system froze, what would you do? http://pastebin.com/eft4M7jq
[16:53] <dr_willis> he dosent need ~ or /home/whatever  he seems to be in trb :)
[16:53] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk  and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ? 2 days ago I got a kernel panic message and had to reinstall. can anyone plw help ?
[16:53] <trb_> I hope the file does what its supposed to do... The file is simply this... File name 98-buspirate.rules  and contains thisuu statement... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"
[16:53] <llutz> trb_: sudo udevadm control --reload-rules               and test it
[16:53] <tutt_> trb_  can ubuntu linux get java?
[16:54] <wam> My quodlibet doesn't recognize the forward/backward multimedia keys of my keyboard anymore in oneiric. quodlibed worked in natty with it's dbus plugin. Is there anything I can do?
[16:54] <trb_> I'm an idiot I know but thanks everyone
[16:54] <lauratika> im using ubuntu 10.10 with gnome clasic but cant find system menu any ideas where is it?
[16:54] <morsedl3> tutt_: see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[16:54] <c_smith> k, brb, gonna test to see if that fix works
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> TRider: try booting to the liveCD and reinstall grub from there
[16:54] <natschil> Hello... my download speeds for updating to oneiric seem very slow, and im thinking they might be for everybody.... so just in case you guys here don't know about it, I'd like to point y'all to apt-p2p :D
[16:54] <tutt_> tanks
[16:54] <dr_willis> morsedl3:  that url seems to have answers to 90% of the questions ive seen asked today.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> TRider: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omgubuntu.co.uk%2F2011%2F09%2Flive-usb-sticking-grub-2-video%2F&ei=XGmYTqlsyMPxA5qDzLgF&usg=AFQjCNHyQcVGbvSKW1itkyQ4_Amoz20c_Q
[16:55] <morsedl3> dr_willis: yup :)
[16:55] <lauratika> please anyone?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> natschil: I use apt-fast here, works a treat
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> !panels | lauratika
[16:55] <natschil> ActionParsnip: ooh, didn't know about that. let me google it.
[16:55] <TRider> ok I will try that. Thanks
[16:56] <trb_> yes I must reload rules ok it took the statement sudo udevadm control --reload-rules
[16:56] <trb_> now how do I check
[16:56] <neriko> Good morning/afternoon everyone. I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 yesterday, and now I have no wireless. It's as if my wifi is permanently turned off. Will someone help me, please?
[16:56] <chiara> hi i have problem with hdmi audio with nvidia card
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> neriko: can you pastebin the output of:
[16:56] <chiara> please help ...
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> neriko: sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; sudo rfkill list
[16:56] <c_smith> okay, the fix did nothing.
[16:57] <c_smith> still no sound.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: did you reboot to test?
[16:57] <lauratika> ubottu: didnt work
[16:57] <c_smith> yep
[16:57] <dr_willis> lauratika:  ubottu  is the channel robot. :)
[16:57] <c_smith> and furthermore: no sound on even bootup.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: ok you are basically looking for lines like that to add to the file, relating to your system model
[16:57] <lauratika> dr_willis... sorry
[16:58] <dr_willis> lauratika:  apologize to the robot? :)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: as the option does nothing, I suggest you remove it
[16:58] <lauratika> sorry buddy bot
[16:58] <natschil> ActionParsnip: apt-p2p seems better as the more people use it, the faster it gets.
[16:58] <lauratika> yes
[16:58] <lauratika> im polite
[16:58] <neriko> Silly question, how do I pastebin?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> natschil: I see
[16:58] <lauratika>  :D
[16:58] <dr_willis> neriko:  use the pastebinit command is one way
[16:58] <lauratika> just kiddiing
[16:58] <chiara> hi i have problem with hdmi audio with nvidia card - i have 11.10  - descktop pc
[16:58] <lauratika> any help any one?
[16:58] <ron> morsedl3: my apt-get download speed is horrible. trying to switch mirrors.
[16:58] <usertwo> now thunar hangs too
[16:59] <natschil> ron: try apt-p2p :)
[16:59] <dr_willis> lauratika:  theres some config/system menu under the top right power button.. i recall.
[16:59] <c_smith> bleh, can't remember the file I edited.... hate it when this happens.
[16:59] <natschil> ron: and then my download speed might speed up too :)
[16:59] <ron> natschil: what's that? :)
[16:59]  * ron laughs
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: try:   options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 enable_msi=1       reboot to apply, then System>Preferences>Sound and change first 4 options to ALSA ← couldn't do this part there was no first 4 options 
[16:59] <natschil> ron: it's kind of like bittorrent for apt-get I think
[16:59] <c_smith> thanks
[16:59] <ron> natschil: the name kinda suggests it, yeah.
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: use the up cursor to review old commands
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> natschil: will try it too
[16:59] <morsedl3> ron: yeah, it seems ubuntu servers are more swapped 2day then yesterday.  you may want to try apt-p2p -- folks here are talking about it being faster
[17:00] <morsedl3> ron: typo: "swamped"
[17:00] <B0g4r7> chiara, I just got HDMI audio to work the other day myself, using Nvidia Ion.  For me, the "magic command" from this page did the trick: http://www.minimyth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2699
[17:00] <jlebar> I opened up the compiz manager, clicked "preferences", and my shell crashed.  Even after a restart, the "Ubuntu" shell doesn't work (Ubuntu 2D does).  How do I recover from this?
[17:00] <Gotisch> can i switch the panel to the right side of the screen? it doesnt seem to be affected by the reveal mode seetting in compiz config
[17:00] <c_smith> knew there had to be a function in Terminal to do that, just didn't know how.
[17:00] <lauratika> how do i access the shortcut and change the theme in gnome classic if there is no system menu?
[17:01] <ron> less than 10k/s :-/
[17:01] <chiara> B0g4r7 i'm going to read
[17:01] <hagus> I had ubuntu 10.4 and was in the midst of an internet upgrade to 10.10 when the thing stopped at configuring cups.  I switched off and now it stops before I get to the sign-in dialog.
[17:01] <hagus> Any hint as to what I should do now?
[17:01] <dr_willis> lauratika:  you can access the gnome-settings tool via the unity panel i belive..  or command line. but i dont recall its exact name.. and there is some setting menu on the menu you get when you click the top right power button icon i recall.
[17:01] <hagus> I am using my son's machine to connect
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: now you do
[17:01] <qols> who is the american food-person with a biiiig round white smiling head and a top hat
[17:01] <usertwo> how do i kill thunar. it wont quit from the side menu
[17:02] <dr_willis> usertwo:  killall thunar      perhaps.
[17:02] <Timo__> is it possible to install and/or save preferences on an usb stick?
[17:02] <maulana> am need make some radio online on my ubuntu can i ?
[17:02] <hagus> Have I jiggered my setup completely?  I have a wubi installation.
[17:02] <dr_willis> Timo__:  you can do a full install to a usb, or a live-setup+persistant save file.
[17:02] <chiara> B0g4r7  i must get you the result?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> maulana: shotcast  maybe
[17:02] <Reaper> id burn 11.10 to a disk and do a fresh install hagus
[17:02] <lauratika> dr_willis you are rigth under the power button but cant find shorcuts or themes
[17:02] <hagus> Will I lose my data, Reaper?
[17:02] <Reaper> yes
[17:03] <Timo__> dr_willis, laptop is from 2006...no usb install :(
[17:03] <dr_willis> lauratika:  this is 11.10 or 11.04 ?
[17:03] <c_smith> rebooting to test, brb with results
[17:03] <lauratika> 11.10
[17:03] <ron> natschil: geh, not sure how to use it.
[17:03] <hagus> grr :( nm
[17:03] <lauratika> brand new oneric
[17:03] <maulana> ActionParsnip, how are you bro... shotcast like winnap paket ?
[17:03] <usertwo> killall thunar says no process found. ps lists only bash and ps
[17:03] <sgs2_usr> how do i enable encryption to my home folder if during installation i have not selected it?
[17:03] <dr_willis> lauratika:  then there is none. :) you use that gnome-tweak tool in the repos.. see the webupd8 blog url for tweaking 11.10
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> maulana: its a way to broadcast stuff is all I know, check it out, see if its what you need
[17:03] <dr_willis> see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:03] <chiara> B0g4r7  i don't have this sound card
[17:03] <Reaper> it did the same to my laptop but I have most of my stuff in ubuntu one so it didnt matter
[17:04] <hagus> Thanks, Reaper, though it was not what I hoped you would say :)
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: can you give the output of:  ps -ef | grep -i thun | grep -v grep
[17:04] <Reaper> yeah, it does suck.
[17:04] <neriko> ActionParsnip, thanks for the assist. the paste addy is http://pastebin.com/cFhbazfA
[17:04] <Reaper> but hang out here maby someone else has a better idea
[17:04] <ron> natschil: does it automagically affect apt-get?
[17:04] <lauratika> hmmmm thanx
[17:04] <Dougie187> Has anyone linked against libgfortran3 in 11.10?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> neriko: so your issue is with the ethernet?
[17:05] <neriko> No, the wireless. I have my ethernet cable connected so I can access xchat
[17:05] <maulana> ActionParsnip, can i used my desktop ubuntu :) that used for school brotha
[17:05] <neriko> My wireless won't even show up
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> neriko: seems to not be detected? If you run:  dmesg | less    do you see the device mentioned?
[17:06] <mr_daniel> Want to download new Ubuntu 11.04. Is there any reason why the download recommends the 32-Bit version instead of the 64-Bit version? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[17:06] <hagus> My upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 crashed.  Is there a way of completing the upgrade short of making a new installation of 10.10?
[17:06] <morsedl3> for what it's worth: i diagnosed why software-center wasn't working for me.  somehow the upgrade from natty to oneiric messed up the permissions on /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/ and /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch.  once corrected (mode 755 and 644, respectively), software-center stopped getting stuck in a loop with a repair message and i could again use it to install packages etc.
[17:06] <trench> mr_daniel: what kind of hardware you got?
[17:06] <dr_willis> mr_daniel:  'idiot proofing' - if you know enogh to know what 64bit is.. and your machine supports it.. id say go for 64bit
[17:06] <natschil> ron: no, you need to install it and then replace http:// with http://localhost:9977/
[17:07] <morsedl3> now am just trying to get WOL to work again. :)
[17:07] <mr_daniel> trench: 64 bit
[17:07] <dr_willis> mr_daniel:  if some one with no idea what 64bit even means.. then well. thats why they reccomend 32bit.
[17:07] <mr_daniel> dr_willis: ok, then I'll stick to 64 bit
[17:07] <TorbenBeta> Hello.
[17:07] <ron> natschil: replace it where?
[17:07] <trench> mr_daniel: then download 64
[17:07] <mr_daniel> ok, I understand,
[17:07] <zastaph> im in the recovery console of ubuntu, how can I debug whats preventing my ubuntu from booting properly (halting at Ubuntu logo) after upgrading to 11.10 ?
[17:07] <natschil> ron: in /etc/apt/sources.list (or I think that's all that you need to do)
[17:07] <ron> natschil: will check it out. thanks.
[17:07] <natschil> ron: gotta go, google it there are usage instructions somewhere
[17:07] <natschil> ron: thanks to you :)
[17:08] <Reaper> Are the desktop themes called that or something else. Like the classic ubuntu, is that called a desktop?
[17:08] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: it gives two numbers, which are probably thunar and empathy (this chat) how do i know which one is thunar?
[17:08] <frigo> hai #ubuntu, i installed 11.10 last night, and now it wont boot, it hangs at "checking battery state"
[17:08] <dr_willis> Reaper:  11.10 uses gnome 3 themes now.
[17:08] <neriko> No. I have a Ralink(?) wireless
[17:08] <Reaper> cool, what are the themes?
[17:08] <dr_willis> frigo:  i saw a posting on that error on the webupd8.org blog site i recall.
[17:08] <neriko> There was a fix for 10.10 with the same issue, but I haven't been able to find one for 11.04 yet
[17:08] <hagus> Did I say 10.04 to 10.10.  I meant 11.04 to 11.10.  I am senile and panicky :)
[17:08] <Reaper> I have the regular and 2d
[17:09] <dr_willis> Reaper:  no idea. theres several out.  not many installed by default. and you need the gnome-tweak tool to enable them
[17:09] <frigo> yeah, i saw fixes for 10.10, but none for 11
[17:09] <dr_willis> tweaking yoru themes and stuff - check 0--->  see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: can you pastebin the text please
[17:09] <Reaper> k thanx ill check for the tool
[17:09] <c_smith> still nothing. no sound, and no 4 options.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: shame the java ppa violates the java licensing
[17:10] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  shame oracle has stuck such a ... well.. i dont even start that rant... :)
[17:10] <c_smith> 'tis frustrating me beyond belief.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: just helping users not violate licensing ;);)
[17:10] <dr_willis> I think orcal has violated the users.. :)
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: you'll find other suck options online dude
[17:11] <feisar> hi, I just installed 10.10 on a ppc machine the apt-get install b43-fwcutter but it hasn't sorted out my wifi card as I'm sure previous versions did, can anyone help?
[17:11] <c_smith> cool, I'll try that.
[17:11] <morsedl3> ron: this might help: http://bredsaal.dk/installing-apt-p2p-on-ubuntu  (again, though, i've never used apt-p2p)
[17:11] <ron> morsedl3: *nod*
[17:12] <conntrack> zero
[17:12] <neriko> If it helps, Action, my Wifi button light is stuck on Red
[17:13] <TorbenBeta> Can I still use the classical Desktop, if I upgrade to 11.10?
[17:14] <dr_willis> TorbenBeta:  gnome-shell has some fallback mode.. but its not the old classic desktop - its close i hear
[17:14] <saml> !text
[17:14] <saml> on that page, there's no "text"
[17:14] <saml> i can't search for "text" on that page
[17:14] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/XHaqKzjx
[17:15] <TorbenBeta> dr_willis: I can't use the one I have in 11.04, if I upgrade to 11.10?
[17:15] <dr_willis> TorbenBeta:  no.
[17:15] <melodos> anyone here?
[17:15] <melodos> ll
[17:15] <melodos> lol
[17:15] <kallisti5> melodos: check out #debian for help installing debian
[17:15] <kallisti5> melodos: it's better then ubuntu :D
[17:15] <melodos> kallisti5, why?
[17:16] <taisa> hi there, does anybody know how to install bibus in ubuntu 11.10? Python dependencies are not met, because of following error: bibus: Depends: python (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 is installed.
[17:16] <kallisti5> melodos: it actually works on a wide range of hardware
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: that's just the ps running, there. There is no thunar running afaik
[17:16] <melodos> kallisti5, i used the alternative command line installation, it's awesome now, could even be faster than debian with xfce so far
[17:16] <kallisti5> melodos: and doesn't have unity
[17:16] <jeroth> Please tell me there is a way to install gnome2 on 11.10?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> taisa: is there a bug reported?
[17:16] <sianhulo> people, i want to add a line to grub2, i want to boot from my usb, what i have to do?
[17:16] <kallisti5> jeroth: gnome classic is gnome 2
[17:16] <reisio> jeroth: doesn't need to be, you can install gnome-shell and gnome-panel
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> jeroth: there is a fork called 'mate'   it may break things but you are free to try. All your own risk if you break stuff
[17:17] <jeroth> awesome :)
[17:17] <hagus> I am able to login at the command line of whatever remains of my 'upgrade' to 11.10.  Is there anything that I could do to save the situation from here?
[17:17] <melodos> kallisti5, i just need to get my ipw3945 and the debian method wont work on ubuntu, probably because of different repos.. how do i add it manually?
[17:17] <taisa> ActionParsnip: yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bibus/+bug/849174
[17:17] <sianhulo> somebody knows?
[17:17] <hagus> I used ctr-alt-f4
[17:17] <djskidd> Can you believe you can make your own channel on freenode? It's true! Try /join <yourname>
[17:17] <kallisti5> melodos: no clue. why not go back to debian? :D
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> taisa: then when the bug is closed, it will be installable
[17:17] <andres__> ola
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> djskidd: yes, the server supports channel spawning...
[17:18] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: the thunar window is right in the middle of the screen. i will just try the 'windows trick' (reboot!!!)
[17:18] <melodos> kallisti5, debian only for server usage for now
[17:18] <andres__> hay alguna chica
[17:18] <nemo> Does Ubuntu 11.10 include GTK Broadway?
[17:18] <sgs2_usr> how do i enable encryption to my home folder if during installation i have not selected it?
[17:18] <kallisti5> melodos: ah.  it is a good server os
[17:18] <melodos> kallisti5, the best
[17:18] <melodos> kallisti5, cuz of the stable packages
[17:18] <kallisti5> melodos: i just couldn't take ubuntu gnome 3 / unity crashing on every freaking video card out there :)
[17:19] <hagus> Does the fact that I am able to login using ctrl-alt-f4 signify that I might be able to save my upgrade?
[17:19] <melodos> kallisti5, as i said, using a clean command line install with xfce4.. it runs better than debian, kernel is really optimised well
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: then use XFCE, KDE or LXDE.....
[17:19] <kallisti5> melodos: xfce4 is pretty good
[17:19] <jazzg4> Need a little help  with new  Ubuntu disro  can not install  chrome or picasa at all it seem the package installer has been removed
[17:19] <donofrio> how do I troubleshoot a vpn session?
[17:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> hi
[17:20] <peto> hi .. how can i make wallpaper slideshow  ? :)
[17:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> i need to speak with ubuntu group contact
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> jazzg4: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser    will give the browser
[17:20] <dr_willis> jazzg4:  install gdebi, or use command line, a .deb file is supposed to open with the software center by default i belive.
[17:20] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: the default desktop shouldn't crash though :)  i have 100's of systems that I have to upgrade that were running ubuntu at work
[17:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> an op on #ubuntu-ru is abusing operator powers
[17:20] <sianhulo> how to boot with usb by grub2?someone?
[17:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> it just bans people for nothing
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: install Kubuntu and you will get KDE. Default means nothing
[17:20] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: reall don't feel like installing xfce across them.. so to debian we go
[17:20] <sambros> how do i edit the top and bottom menu bars in ubuntu 11.10 (gnome)?? right-clicking doesn't do anything
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> SudoKing: then advise in #ubuntu-ops
[17:20] <nytek_> peto: there is a slideshow screensaver
[17:20] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: eh. at thay point why not get away from Shuttleworth and his crapbuntu?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: thats sad, change release for the sake of a changable part of the OS.
[17:21] <jazzg4> thnaks
[17:21] <hagus> If I can login using ctrl-alt-f4, is there a chance that I can save my ubuntu 11.10 upgrade?
[17:21] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: i know i sound like a troll.. but i *really* can't stand unity
[17:21] <Stava> So i resized a window with the border-snap feature and the entire window is now like a 2px wide, 20px high border. I can't resize it and restarting the application restore it's size. What should I do?
[17:21] <peto> nytek_: and where can i find it?
[17:21] <dr_willis> hagus:  totally depends on whats broken.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: don't use it then, you don't have to use unity...
[17:21] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: i *really* tried to like it.. but just too much movement for the sake of movement
[17:21] <hagus> What could I do to see if I can get any further?
[17:22] <ardithoxha> guys I have a  sound problem
[17:22] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: i know.. I'd rather use gnome 3.. but it's even unstable under ubuntu
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: LXDE frontend is largely unchaned in years..
[17:22] <hagus> At the moment, that is all that I have been able to do - is login
[17:22] <hagus> Do not know what to try next
[17:22] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: keep getting strange bleeding colors and stuff
[17:22] <dr_willis> Hmm. I found gnome-3 and gnome-shell worked decently well during beta.
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: you can use gnome apps in KDE you know...
[17:22] <Andy80> how can I know wich package modified my GRUB configuration? Since this morning I've the Debian logo on my GRUB -.- this is not funny since I didn't request it....
[17:22] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: yeah but kde is kinda not my thing :)
[17:22] <dr_willis> bbl
[17:23] <hagus> Any suggestions as to what I might try, dr_willis?
[17:23] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: i'm not running linux to use windows :D
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: or XFCE, or fluxbox, or openbox.Lots to choose from. Gnome is not the only option
[17:23] <Calinou_> hi... updated to 11.10
[17:23] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: yup.  but at that point why not just run debian?
[17:23] <Calinou_> botting stops to a console screen, "Stopping Userspace bootsplash"
[17:23] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: the best part of ubuntu was it just worked
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: i like the ubuntu community, I'm also an ubuntu member
[17:24] <Calinou_> took me HOURS to install 11.10...
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: its always just worked here
[17:24] <Calinou_> a non working 11.10.
[17:24] <kallisti5> Calinou_: thats prob just a slow mirrot
[17:24] <kallisti5> **mirror
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: what doesn't work?
[17:24] <Calinou_> no GUI
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: do you get the login screen?
[17:24] <Calinou_> just a console, nothing writable
[17:24] <hagus> Is there a way in which I can proceed beyond a mere login?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[17:25] <Calinou_> no... just "starting/stopping" messages
[17:25] <Calinou_> I don't know? first time I boot 11.10
[17:25] <Calinou_> using nvidia 9600M
[17:25] <ardithoxha> can someone help with my sound problem!
[17:26] <pagan0ne> the min/max/close buttons at the top of my windows have defaulted to the RIGHT like they were pre 10.4, i got used to them being on the LEFT, i have tried changing the settings in gconf-editor under apps>metacity>general   and changed it FROM menu:minimize,maximize,close TO minimize,maximize,close:menu logged out and back in, and their still on the RIGHT, where has this setting moved to?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: but you upgraded from natty, right?
[17:26] <Calinou_> reinstalled
[17:26] <Calinou_> my homd folder is on a external HDD
[17:26] <melodos> anyone knows how the default ubuntu installation picks up the proprietary drivers and downloads them?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: so a clean install? You may want the boot option:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:26] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: I use to use Ubuntu because the package selection was *awesome* and for desktops at work, home, etc it just worked. no hardware issues, fast as hell.  but If i have to work around bugs and tweak the crap out of Ubuntu 11.04+ to get it useable.. it's just a bandaid.  I get to the point of anger using Ubuntu now which makes me feel pretty bummed out.
[17:26] <tetsuo--> hello, im getting this error when updating from 11.04 to 11.10 Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' main.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708124/ apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708125/  << What can i do to fix it?
[17:26] <Calinou_> (currently plugged hdd, made sure to boot to the internal hdd)
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: installing a new DE is hardly tweaking
[17:27] <Calinou_> no GRUB screen - only ubuntu 11.10 installed
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: hold shift at boot
[17:27] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: have you seen the gnome 2 fallback?
[17:27] <Calinou_> ok then...
[17:27] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: it looks empty by default.. no ubuntu polish
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: I don't use gnome much, not done so in years
[17:27] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: ah.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: too slow
[17:28] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: I may look at KDE again.. but my normal preference is Gnome or xfce
[17:28] <Calinou_> no... still the purple screen, "GRUB loading" appeared at one moment though
[17:28] <neo84>  After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[17:28] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: anyway.. i *really* do hope things get better. I
[17:28] <Calinou_> the console is back. automatic crash report generation failed, everything else is ok
[17:28] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: 'm not holding my breath though
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: i've use LXDE the last 5/6 years, gone back to my kde roots on this lappy
[17:29] <wildc4rd> Evening all, general consensus for 11.10 for basic 'desktop' use, before I click yes
[17:29] <neo84> Please help,  After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[17:29] <kallisti5> wildc4rd: sucks :P
[17:29] <pagan0ne> wildc4rd, its different, if you dont like change dont click yes
[17:29] <kallisti5> pagan0ne: +1
[17:29] <Calinou_> I guess I will install 11.94
[17:29] <meta-coder> What are the main differences between KDE, Gnome and Xfce?
[17:29] <Calinou_> for nothing. :(
[17:29] <wildc4rd> I didn't like Unity, does that count? lol
[17:29] <sgs2_usr> Calinou_: does this exist??
[17:30] <bamestnik_> Hello, I've an actual TiVo are there any tools I can use to upload/stream content to the TiVo?
[17:30] <Calinou_> 04*
[17:30] <pagan0ne> wildc4rd, it will reinstall unity and uninstall gnome when you upgrade
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> wildc4rd: works fine here
[17:30] <pagan0ne> wildc4rd, and the new gnome you can reinstall in 11.10 is way different than the old gnome, nautilus is different and things just dont work as expected for me
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> meta-coder: different apps by default, different resources used.
[17:30] <Calinou_> what option to use actionparsnip?
[17:30] <Calinou_> grub works!
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:31] <Calinou_> ok
[17:31] <ge0rge04> Hello
[17:31] <pagan0ne> the min/max/close buttons at the top of my windows have defaulted to the RIGHT like they were pre 10.4, i got used to them being on the LEFT, i have tried changing the settings in gconf-editor under apps>metacity>general   and changed it FROM menu:minimize,maximize,close TO minimize,maximize,close:menu logged out and back in, and their still on the RIGHT, where has this setting moved to?
[17:31] <Calinou_> on a new line?
[17:31] <bfig> i'm having trouble with my microphone
[17:31] <bfig> how can i do to test it? my alsamixer is not showing anything
[17:32] <meta-coder> ActionParsnip, What among them is more popular among developers?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> !details| bfig
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> bfig: sound recorder is in a default install
[17:32] <Calinou_> booting...
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> meta-coder: all, you can also run kde apps in gnome and vice-versa
[17:32] <ge0rge04> What is the difference between  the (version current) and (version current-updates) of the NVIDIA driver that shows up in the additional drivers window?
[17:33] <Calinou_> I used to not blacklist nouveau before. Still does not boot
[17:33] <Calinou_> "stopping Userspace bootsplash"
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Calinou_
[17:33] <rubyplusplus> Anyone know what the google integration does in 11.10?
[17:34] <bfig> sorry for the vague question. I'm running 11.04, i run alsamixer from the console and instead of volume bars i get a -00- S/PIDF and no way to see the volume bars
[17:34] <Calinou_> does nomodeset allow me to use 3d games...?
[17:34] <rubyplusplus> I kind of thought it would set up the empathy/thunderbird/calendar type sync, but I had to set all of that up manually.
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: you'll just need it til you can get the proprietary driver installed
[17:36] <Calinou_> ok
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: do you have web access in network root console?
[17:36] <douggle> is there a tool to convert from wubi to a physical install
[17:36] <Calinou_> dunno
[17:36] <Calinou_> "previousclinux versions" in grub
[17:36] <Calinou_> the 11.10 uses linux 3.0
[17:37] <bamestnik_> meta-coder: KDE, IMHO, has a lot more color then Gnome.  Xfce is more like a traditional Unix GUI.
[17:37] <Calinou_> does using a older linux fixes that?
[17:37] <neo84>  I realy hatet 11.10
[17:37] <ge0rge04> can somebody answer my question too, please?
[17:37] <neo84> it messed up with my system
[17:37] <elluz> ubuntu 11.10 travando muito...
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> douggle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/635/how-to-convert-wubi-install-into-regular-install    I'd just reinstall
[17:38] <eolo999> hi, i use xmonad as wm and it seems that the package xmonad-contrib is not present even if it is mentioned on packages.ubuntu.com? anyone knows something about it?
[17:39] <elluz> alguém fala Português-BR???
[17:39] <pagan0ne> found it!, can anyone tell me why the setting in gconf-edit for the position of the min/max/close buttons was moved from 'apps.metacity.general'  to 'desktop.gnome.shell.windows'? the button_layout?
[17:39] <Pici> !br | elluz
[17:39] <TRider> on startup i get a terminal screen with GRUB_ infront. I have ubuntu already installed. what can I do ?
[17:39] <cheako_> !tivo
[17:40] <Calinou_> wow, system works with old linux versions... YAY
[17:40] <Calinou_> thanks anyway guys
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> TRider: boot to the liveCD and chroot to the installed OS, then run:  sudo update-grub
[17:40] <luca_> dear friends which is the version of gnome on ubuntu 11.10??
[17:41] <Calinou_> 2 if you use gnome fallback
[17:41] <luca_> fallback??
[17:41] <Calinou_> aka. old gnome
[17:41] <luca_> how can i chech gnome version??
[17:41] <pagan0ne> luca_ 11.10 uninstalls gnome and installs unity, however you can reinstall gnome, which i have done myself its the new gnome-shell which is woah confusing to people used to 'old gnome'
[17:41] <Calinou_> like 10.10 and prior
[17:41] <luca_> check
[17:41] <Pici> luca_, Calinou_: There is no gnome2 in 11.10
[17:42] <Pici> luca_, Calinou_: There is a GNOME3-fallback mode that looks somewhat like gnome2 though.
[17:42] <TRider> what is chroot to the installed OS
[17:42] <luca_> Pci, gnome 3 or gnome 2?
[17:43] <luca_> how can i check the gnome version??
[17:43] <Pici> !gnome2 | luca_
[17:43] <pagan0ne> luca_, 11.10 allows you to install gnome 3, but comes with unity instead
[17:44] <Pici> pagan0ne: Unity is a shell for gnome3. It just isn't gnome-shell.
[17:44] <RingZer0> which is more lightweight for a desktop env: Xfce or Lxde?
[17:44] <luca_> But I had gnome 2 also in the previous version
[17:44] <pagan0ne> Pici, wow, that makes things even more confusing x.x
[17:44] <Calinou_> does gnome 3 limit FPS to 52? like gnome2 + effects do?
[17:44] <Pici> Calinou_: I don't know.
[17:44] <luca_> so the gnome version is the same in ubuntu 11.04 and in 11.10
[17:45] <RingZer0> how difficult is it to install a separate desktop environment like Lxde on the regular 11.10 distro?
[17:45] <luca_> nothing has changed
[17:45] <Pici> luca_: No, thats not what I said.
[17:45] <eolo999> oops, forgot to mention that i just upgraded to oneiric
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> RingZer0: same as any other package
[17:45] <luca_> Pici you said that the version is the same
[17:45] <h00k> pagan0ne: Ubuntu comes with Gnome 3.2 and uses Unity as a shell.  Gnome-shell is an alternative to Unity that sits on Gnome 3.2 as well
[17:46] <RingZer0> ActionParsnip: i cannot believe apt is so good at resolving dependancies
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> RingZer0: not hard at all. For xfce: sudo apt-get install xfce4  for lxde: sudo apt-get install lxde    and so on
[17:46] <Pici> luca_: The GNOME Foundation has ceased support for GNOME 2, and as such it is not in Ubuntu 11.10. GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based and that is what ships as the default desktop environment in 11.10
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> RingZer0: it needs to be ;)
[17:46] <RingZer0> lol, remember pkgtool ... first time i used was with an early version of slackware
[17:46] <pagan0ne> h00k, i get it, but it doesnt make it any less confusing, its nice that things are extensible in this manner though.
[17:47] <paparent> Hey all ! I just upgraded to 11.10. but now my wifi is pretty buggy.. it's intermittent and unusable. my card is atheros.. is there any thing to? known issue?
[17:47] <RingZer0> POSTIX systems are really evolving into game-changing players in the OS market
[17:48] <famgod> is there a way I can stop using pulseaudio and use alsa?
[17:48] <luca_> Pci: you mean that we have something of Gnome 3 and something of Gnome 2?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> paparent: when the link drops, run:   dmesg | less    may give clues
[17:48] <wriggle> hi.. i did a ssh tunnel to my vps, but i cant install any package on it via apt-get install.. it says unable to locate package. how to fix that?
[17:49] <ChrisGagnon> wriggle: did you run 'apt-get update' first?
[17:49] <blocky> can someone help me get gnome-shell running? I'm using 11.10 32 bit on a virtual box (windows 7 host) and it defaults to the gnome2 type fallback
[17:49] <fmauro> famgod: yes there are seveal guides to remove pulseaudio completely
[17:49] <wriggle> oh no, i forgot.
[17:49] <wriggle> thanks lol
[17:50] <blocky> also I have enabled 3d acceleration on my virtual machine and installed the addons
[17:50] <rdegges> Hi all--quick question. I'm trying to install chrome on 11.10 64-bit. I downloaded the package from google.com/chrome (as usual), but when I open it in the software center to install, I get the error: "Internal Error The file "/path/to/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb couldn't be opened."
[17:50] <bfig> i'm having trouble with sound in general. can somebody help me a bit? i haven't been able to use the microphone ever. in windows it works without doing anything
[17:50] <rdegges> Am I missing something here?
[17:50] <bfig> (ubuntu 11.04 fully updated)
[17:50] <khussein78_> how can i connect l2tp/ipsec VPN from ubuntu ?
[17:50] <rdegges> I'm downloading it via firefox to ~/Downloads, so it's not in a weird directory or anything
[17:51] <pc01> Hola
[17:51] <fmauro> rdegges: you could try installing it directly with dpkg -i
[17:51] <rdegges> fmauro: ok, might as well
[17:51] <luca_> Is better gnome shell than the version we use on ubuntu 11.10??
[17:51] <wriggle> it working now. thanks ChrisGagnon
[17:51] <wriggle> 's
[17:51] <pc01> hello
[17:51] <fmauro> hi
[17:52] <colonia> hi somebody knows some program to audio?
[17:52] <morsedl3> khussein78_: network-manager might work.  vpn -> cisco uses ipsec i believe
[17:52] <colonia> someone speaks portuguese?
[17:52] <pangolin> !br | colonia
[17:52] <pc01> some one speak spanish
[17:52] <llutz> !pt | colonia
[17:52] <h00k> !es | pc01
[17:52] <TehAndrewRyan> i have serious issues with ccc on ubuntu 11.10
[17:52] <colonia> ola meu cara
[17:53] <khussein78_> i see in vpn just pptp how can i download plugin
[17:53] <morsedl3> khussein78_: openvpn might also do ipsec...
[17:53] <TehAndrewRyan> the control center crashes when i try to change my desktop size
[17:53] <luca_> we have Unity as shell for gnome environment
[17:53] <TehAndrewRyan> i'm also using 2 monitors and can't choose "Extended desktop", because then it crashes when i press Apply
[17:53] <luca_> like in the version 11.04
[17:54] <ibqn> does 11.10 come with gnome 3.2?
[17:54] <morsedl3> khussein78_: i believe 'sudo apt-get install vpnc' will get it for you.
[17:54] <luca_> I don't know how to check the version of gnome but i think it's gnome 2
[17:54] <luca_> also in this version
[17:55] <TehAndrewRyan> so how do i fix the crashing catalyst control center?
[17:55] <sianhulo> people, somebody know how to boot from a usb( bootable usb, no an .ISO) by using grub?
[17:55] <khussein78_> morsedl3,  i will try it
[17:55] <joelikeubuntu> 如何进入CN
[17:55] <bfig> sianhulo, doubt that can be done. you can boot using your bios boot menu probably
[17:55] <Pici> !zh | joelikeubuntu
[17:55] <vince> Nijaho :)
[17:55] <morsedl3> khussein78_: scratch that... i think you need package network-manager-vpnc and perhaps network-manager-vpnc-gnome
[17:56] <sianhulo> bfig, my bios doesn't support it, and yes, grub can do it because i did it a year ago or so, but now i have deafult configuration of grub
[17:56] <lucidguy> looking for a new Enterprise class backup application.  Mainly Linux and Vmware environment. Suggestions?
[17:56] <zach2825> hi
[17:56] <joelikeubuntu> uboottu  谢谢！
[17:56] <luca_> gnome 3 is more elegant
[17:57] <morsedl3> khussein78_: if you run 'sudo apt-cache search network-manager', you'll see the available plugins.  if you don't have apt-cache, install it first.
[17:57] <wriggle> is it possible to get tor via apt-get install? since apt-get install tor is not working
[17:57] <fmauro> !rsync | lucidguy
[17:57] <morsedl3> khussein78_: openvpn also works from the command line / cli and is configured with files in /etc, but that's a bit more involved (yet more flexible)
[17:58] <nsahoo> Hi, I am trying to figure out if the version of ubuntu I am running is suited for NUMA architecture
[17:58] <TehAndrewRyan> catalyst, crashing, unable to configure my monitors.. help?
[17:59] <TheCowboy> It said my upgrade completed with errors, where can I find the error log to see what didn't install? And is there a way to see what packages were upgraded, removed, no longer supported, etc?
[17:59] <nsahoo> the uname -a has this "3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP"
[17:59] <TheCowboy> (Though the upgrade seems to be working fine.)
[17:59] <luca_> anyway if u want you can install gnome 3 shell on ubuntu 11.10
[17:59] <luca_> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[17:59] <luca_> I'm trying
[17:59] <nsahoo> so, is it not optimal for NUMA, only SMP?
[18:00] <luca_> I hope it will be stable
[18:00] <tanath> can anyone tell me why alt+tab doesn't work after upgrading?
[18:00] <morsedl3> khussein78_: scratch that again re: openvpn.  does not support ipsec, although you can tunnel ipsec over it (probably not what you want)
[18:00] <tetsuo--> hello, im getting this error when updating from 11.04 to 11.10 Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' main.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708124/ apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708125/  << What can i do to fix it?
[18:00] <tanath> it's not listed in Keyboard at all, but i did enable it in compiz. still not working
[18:00] <fmauro> lucidguy: In the corporate environment I work in we do rsync of all the data to a ZFS server that creates daily snapshots
[18:01] <tew88> I've just installed 11.10. When in the live environment, everything worked fine. When booting from the hdd, however, the Ubuntu splash screen disappears and I'm left with just text status messages. I suspect my Nvidia drivers. What can I do to get this working?
[18:01] <morsedl3> khussein78_: see also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPSecHowTo
[18:01] <TehAndrewRyan> 19:58] <TehAndrewRyan> catalyst, crashing, unable to configure my monitors.. help?
[18:02] <khussein78_> morsedl3, vpnc  offer me just cisco compatable ipsec
[18:02] <khussein78_> i need to connect o xl2tpd VPN server
[18:02] <fabri> ciao
[18:02] <usertwo> when i open a file using an application (eg: libreoffice) what does it invoke to handle the file management (nautilus?). i can work with files and folders extremely quickly when using applications, but when i try to open nautilus directly to manage files in folders, it works extremely slowly (13 minutes to open). how can i improve this (other than using the cl for managing files)
[18:03] <fabri> list
[18:03] <morsedl3> khussein78_: yes, likely.
[18:03] <Kearlin> Hi, I got a grub error of "no such device" followed by my disk uuid. I have check it in the Live environment, and is correct, the output of ls in "grub rescue>" is (hd0). And I can't ls content of it. I have tried to re-install grub in a live environment. What could be the error?
[18:03] <morsedl3> khussein78_: hmm... am not familiar with xl2tpd... again, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPSecHowTo might be a good starting point.
[18:04] <wriggle> does anyone know how to install tor via terminal? apt-get install is not working
[18:04] <zatan> Hi can anyone help me here? I have just update ubuntu in to 11.10 and I am having some issues, I cant install any packages please take a look at pastebin : http://pastebin.com/Gv39Gqvk
[18:05] <Kearlin> wriggle: what package are you trying to install?
[18:05] <calamari> hi.. is there still a recovery mode with grub2? I no longer get the grub menu
[18:05] <wriggle> Tor
[18:05] <fmauro> usertwo: I had a similar issue with nautilus, but it only took so long to open the home folder, the rest worked smoothly
[18:05] <RingZer0> looks like the ubuntu server caps sending at 5MB/s
[18:05] <llutz> wriggle: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[18:05] <tew88> Nvidia graphics problem. Can anyone assist? Fresh install of 11.10 won't boot into graphics mode.
[18:05] <RingZer0> tew88: i just got a kernal panic, same thing i think
[18:06] <RingZer0> "revertted to text mode"
[18:06] <Kearlin> Could anyone help me on the grub problem?
[18:06] <TehAndrewRyan> 19:58] <TehAndrewRyan> catalyst, crashing, unable to configure my monitors.. help?
[18:06] <wriggle> meh llutz, that is not working
[18:06] <fmauro> !repeat | TehAndrewRyan
[18:06] <llutz> !work | wriggle
[18:06] <tew88> RingZer0: Ah. Glad I'm not alone. Have you found any solutions?
[18:07] <determinology> Whats a kernel panic?
[18:07] <determinology> Ive never seen it happen
[18:07] <morsedl3> khussein78_: it looks like archlinux has some info on xl2tpd, both server and client configuration, which might help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/L2TP/IPsec_VPN_client_setup#xl2tpd
[18:07] <wriggle> when i do apt-get install tor i get as reply: Package tor is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:07] <wriggle> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[18:07] <wriggle> is only available from another source
[18:07] <RingZer0> tew88: not yet
[18:07] <calamari> wriggle: might need to apt-get update
[18:07] <wriggle> is it possible to get tor via wget?
[18:07] <usertwo> fmauro: i have that problem with all folders, not just the home folder once it as opened. i even installed thunar as an alternative file manager and that was the same, so it makes me think i have some underlying file management issue.
[18:07] <llutz> wriggle: you added torproject to your sources? i guess you'll have to wait until they update it to oneiric
[18:08] <wriggle> how do i do that llutz?
[18:08] <llutz> wriggle: https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en     READ this
[18:08] <khussein78_> i also just found same link
[18:08] <llutz> wriggle: "option two: ...."
[18:08] <fmauro> usertwo: sounds like it, can't help though as my problem was nautilus-related
[18:08] <tew88> RingZer0: I'll keep you posted if I find anything. If you could do the same, that'd be great =)
[18:08] <khussein78_> i am will check it
[18:08] <wriggle> woops, my fault. sry.
[18:09] <rootadmin> hi everyone i need source code for ARP so how can i get that ???
[18:09] <TehAndrewRyan> HENTAI
[18:09] <Islam> does any body know how to install google earth on ubuntu 11.10 ? I downloaded it from google.com "google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" but its not installing by the software center, how can I install it ?
[18:09] <llutz> !source | rootadmin
[18:09] <calamari> found an answer: To get the boot menu to show, you have to hold down the Shift key during bootup.
[18:09] <morsedl3> ron: any luck?  don't want to leave you worse off than you were...
[18:09] <ron> morsedl3: well, I'm in the process of redownloading the nvidia drivers.
[18:10] <TehAndrewRyan> hentai? someone?
[18:10] <rootadmin> but i require source code for address resolution protocol
[18:10] <rootadmin> to know how it is done in ubuntu
[18:10] <llutz> rootadmin: kernel-sources
[18:11] <rootadmin> can you explain it little more
[18:11] <rhizmoe> arp is like 30 years old, the source is not hard to find.
[18:11] <ubuntu_user> Hi.
[18:11] <rhizmoe> if not 35
[18:11] <mongo> rootadmin apt-get source image-linux
[18:12] <ubuntu_user> Anyone having problems in clicking buttons in version 11.10 ?
[18:12] <RobotBot> hey. after upgrading to 11.10 it removed workrave from the repositories so i've been trying to compile it but there is no make file in the workrave folder. can anyone help with this?
[18:12] <llama-linux> Anyone here using tiling window managers?
[18:12] <llama-linux> having some issues
[18:12] <morsedl3> ron: gotcha.  i'm kind of surprised they weren't in your apt cache (/var/cache/apt/archives).  unless you ran 'apt-get clean', all the debs you d/l'd for the upgrade should still be there.
[18:12] <llutz> rootadmin: information about arp-sources should be contained in the kernel-sources
[18:12] <Islam>  does any body know how to install google earth on ubuntu 11.10 ? I downloaded it from google.com "google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" but its not installing by the software center, how can I install it ?
[18:12] <ron> morsedl3: I may have at one point or another.
[18:12] <junio> Hi all
[18:13] <ubuntu_user> Anyone having problems in clicking buttons in version 11.10 ?
[18:13] <llutz> rootadmin:  .../net/ipv4/arp.c
[18:13] <morsedl3> ron: check
[18:13] <rootadmin> mongo i am getting this error Unable to find a source package for image-linux
[18:13] <rhizmoe> rootadmin: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/arp/ ...not a very "root" question, tho
[18:14] <openbees> nick viky
[18:14] <ubuntu_user> I have problems with grub, I get "out of range" when the PC starts and I have to blindly press enter to boot Ubuntu.
[18:14] <Chaorain> I'm having a problem live booting 11.10, I posted my problem here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11341807
[18:15] <joe040288> ubuntu_user, you can change the boot resolution be installing startupmanager
[18:15] <ubuntu_user> Thanks joe!
[18:15] <joe040288> np
[18:15] <carabas> can i somehow alt-tab between windows of active virtual desktop only instead of all opened windows?
[18:15] <carabas> 11.10 unity
[18:15] <llutz> !info linux-source
[18:15] <llutz> rootadmin: ^^
[18:15] <joe040288> hey im having a problem switching to the command line with CTRL-ALT-F1
[18:15] <rostayob> I have two problems with gnome 3: 1) I can't scroll anymore with the middle button of my trackpoint, 2) on the terminal I always have the toolbar even if I unchecked "show menubar" in the preferences
[18:15] <LABcrab> Hello!  Where is a changelog for Ubuntu?  Will it melt my face off?
[18:16] <joe040288> the screen still shows the same image as what X is showing
[18:16] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I just upgraded to 11.10 and instlaled gnome-shell. I have some serious graphical glitches, I had them as well with gs compiled from source some months ago. Any idea?
[18:16] <AnNo3> Hi! After updating my laptop to 11.10 it stopped detecting microphones!
[18:16] <Islam>  does any body know how to install google earth on ubuntu 11.10 ? I downloaded it from google.com "google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" but its not installing by the software center, how can I install it ?
[18:17] <tanath> KNUBBIG, me too
[18:17] <gigasoft> how to restart ubuntu unitu gui from terminall
[18:17] <joe040288> Islam, you cant install it from the software center
[18:17] <Nova685> hit shutdown its in the same window
[18:17] <AnNo3> gigasoft: setsid unity
[18:17] <Tixos> can someone tell me how to jack in unity?
[18:17] <joe040288> Islam, you have to install it from bash
[18:17] <tanath> gigasoft, try 'unity --reset'
[18:17] <KNUBBIG> tanath: have you resolved it?
[18:18] <Islam> joe040288: how ?
[18:18] <Tixos> whats the GNOME3 shell package?
[18:18] <KNUBBIG> gnome-shell
[18:18] <Darael> Tixos: gnome-shell
[18:18] <graingert> apt://gnome-shell
[18:18] <AnNo3> Islam: go to the folder the deb package is in and run this command in terminal: dpkg -i FILENAME
[18:18] <Tixos> is there any taskbar mod for unity/gnome3 ?
[18:18] <ubuntu_user> how do i star a terminal in unity?
[18:19] <AnNo3> Islam: as root, so with sudo in front of it
[18:19] <campee> is there a way to unbind the start/super key as the button that launches the menu in unity?
[18:19] <Tixos> lol ubuntu_user !!
[18:19] <tanath> KNUBBIG, nope. i suspect driver issues
[18:19] <KNUBBIG> ubuntu_user: press super key and search for terminal
[18:19] <graingert> Islam: are you on x86 or x86_64
[18:19] <KNUBBIG> tanath: You using an ATI/AMD card?
[18:19] <ubuntu_user> Tixos: :)
[18:19] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> Islam isn't good religion btw
[18:19] <Darael> Tixos: No, but for a gnome2-like interface, install the gnome-panel package.
[18:19] <Tixos> ubuntu_user: how do i turn my computer on in unity ??
[18:19] <tanath> KNUBBIG, yes
[18:19] <rhizmoe> `sudo_kill_1_-9`: shush, kid
[18:19] <KNUBBIG> tanath: okey, me too
[18:19] <ubuntu_user> Tixos: I'm quite lost
[18:19] <tanath> `sudo_kill_1_-9`, is there a good one? :P
[18:19] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> rhizmoe: you use islam too?
[18:20] <Tixos> hmm, Darael i much prefer Gnome2 yes, purely for speed of changing window
[18:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> tanath: of course no
[18:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> religions suck
[18:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> they are for weak lazy people
[18:20] <ubuntu_user> KNUBBIG: Thanks.
[18:20] <rhizmoe> `sudo_kill_1_-9`: your nick has bad syntax, too
[18:20] <Tixos> but i want to progress now
[18:20] <jamil_1> Hi all, my system is refusing to boot beyond the blue kubuntu screen after I upgraded to 11.10
[18:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> who just want to receive 'gifts' for doing nothing
[18:20] <Darael> `sudo_kill_1_-9`: Even if true (and I see no evidence that it's worse than any other), that sort of comment is not welcome here.
[18:20] <Tixos> GNOME3 + unity, is far too slow, it seems gnome3 makes it slightly quicker to change window
[18:20] <tanath> `sudo_kill_1_-9`, now that's ignorant
[18:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> Darael: so is his nick
[18:20] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[18:20] <rhizmoe> kb is fine with me
[18:20] <tetsuo--> hello, im getting this error when updating from 11.04 to 11.10 Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' main.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708124/ apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708125/  << What can i do to fix it?
[18:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> he may drive people into islam with it
[18:20] <Reaper> so can you find different themes in the software center?
[18:20] <Islam> `sudo_kill_1_-9`: thats not the place to discuss a religion topics, plus its racist to say so !
[18:20] <joe040288> i agree this is not a place to discuse religon
[18:21] <Myrtti> move on
[18:21] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> Islam: so change your nick then
[18:21] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> your nick is quite religious
[18:21] <AnNo3> Upgrading to 11.10 has made my system unable to detect a microphone. Any help, please?
[18:21] <gigasoft> thanks fouks
[18:21] <rhizmoe> silence this jerk
[18:21] <christian> ed sheeran ftw
[18:21] <wriggle> if i edit a file via vi how can i save the changes and exit?
[18:21] <Reaper> lmfao
[18:21] <Islam> thats my NAME !!!
[18:21] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> LOL
[18:21] <Darael> `sudo_kill_1_-9`: Yes, and it's not a problem to have such a nick.  What /is/ a problem is to make comments about it.  If the nick in question was making a comment of some kind, that might be different.
[18:21] <Guest47781> wriggle: what editor are you using ?
[18:21] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> ok my name is Buddhism then
[18:21] <wriggle> terminal..
[18:21] <mongo> wriggle: ZZ
[18:22] <rhizmoe> -v pls
[18:22] <ubuntu_user> Anyone having issues on clicking buttons in Unity?
[18:22] <Islam> `sudo_kill_1_-9` : thats my real name !
[18:22] <Tixos> terminal isnt a text editor wriggle lol
[18:22] <joe040288> any 1 have any idea why when i try to ctrl-alt-f1 it doesnt show the command line just the same image as w/e was on X
[18:22] <trism> rostayob: for your second problem, it seems to be an issue with appmenu and gnome-terminal interactly badly. as a workaround I uninstalled the appmenu packages (appmenu-gtk and indicator-appmenu at least) and the menubar will stay hidden if you uncheck it in the profile preferences
[18:22] <jamil_1> anyone ?
[18:22] <trism> rostayob: I'll see if I can find the bug report
[18:22] <Tixos> wriggle: use try 'nano'
[18:22] <joe040288> ubuntu_user, do you mean the bottons dont work or there slow what?
[18:22] <Tixos> to write changed = cntl  +  o
[18:22] <KNUBBIG> I just upgraded to 11.10 and instlaled gnome-shell. I have some serious graphical glitches, I had them as well with gs compiled from source some months ago. Any idea?
[18:23] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> Islam: i would hate to be born with such name, omg
[18:23] <Gotisch> anyone knows how i can change the settings of the notification area in awn? the internet says to right click on it but that just does nothing for me
[18:23] <tanath> `sudo_kill_1_-9`, so what if he has a religious name? that's not gonna 'infect' others. and even if you find it offensive.. so what? people don't have the right to not be offended
[18:23] <AnNo3> `sudo_kill_1_-9`: Just stop. Stop being disrespectful
[18:23] <Darael> Tixos: Back on topic, for more information on the gnome-2-like interface...
[18:23] <Islam> `sudo_kill_1_-9`: thanx Hitlar
[18:23] <Darael> !notunity | Tixos
[18:23] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> tanath: i don't offend anyone
[18:23] <Tixos> yes Darael i tried this in beta2
[18:23] <fabri> ciao
[18:23] <ubuntu_user> joe040288: I click on them and they don't work, I have to use TAB to focus them and press ENTER.
[18:23] <fabri> list
[18:23] <Tixos> but it failed terribly
[18:23] <AnNo3> `sudo_kill_1_-9`: You do, by trying to enforce your beliefs on them
[18:23] <Myrtti> Move On To Ubuntu Support, Please.
[18:24] <Darael> It's /probably/ been fixed for releas, Tixos
[18:24] <Tixos> i will retry. then search for a custom plugin for some sort of taskbar
[18:24] <llama-linux> kill dash nine
[18:24] <wriggle> meh, it says in the bottom left recording.. how can i exit and safe the changes lol
[18:24] <Tixos> /probably/ :P
[18:24] <tle_> Is there a way to install sun-jdk and netbeans on Ubuntu 11.10? I don't see it in the repos and the official bundle installer downloaded form oracle doesn't work either
[18:24] <Tixos> wriggle: what editor are you using ....
[18:24] <KNUBBIG> Myrtti: Ubuntu Support? What is that?
[18:24] <mercury^> Hey. Since I installed 11.10, my .gtkrc-2.0 has no effect
[18:24] <rhizmoe> tle_: can you elaborate on "doesn't work?"
[18:24] <llama-linux> KILL DASH NINE,
[18:24] <llama-linux> No more CPU time.
[18:24] <llama-linux> I run KILL DASH NINE,
[18:24] <llama-linux> And your process is mine.
[18:24] <llama-linux> I run KILL DASH NINE,
[18:24] <FloodBot1> llama-linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <tanath> `sudo_kill_1_-9`, i meant to imply you don't get to complain about being offended by a religious nick or anything else
[18:24] <joe040288> ubuntu_user, hmmm honestly i have no idea lol hopefully some 1 with more experiance will be able to help you
[18:25] <wriggle> as i told you.. i edited the /etc/apt/sources.list via terminal
[18:25] <wriggle> now i want to exit it lol
[18:25] <Nisstyre> I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint
[18:25] <Tixos> and as i told YOU what editor?
[18:25] <tle_> rheilling, throws an unhandled exception before displaying the install wizard
[18:25] <ubuntu_user> np joe
[18:25] <Tixos> it varies from editor to editor cmon...
[18:25] <tanath> `sudo_kill_1_-9`, and i beg to differ. you did say something offensive (the comment i said was ignorant)
[18:25] <wriggle> i only have ssh acces to that machine
[18:25] <wriggle> how  can i check it lol..
[18:25] <Myrtti> absolute last warning, for EVERYONE.
[18:25] <Tixos> what are you putting infront of the file to edit ??
[18:25] <Tixos> vi ? nano?
[18:25] <wriggle> vi
[18:25] <h00k> tanath, `sudo_kill_1_-9`: move on.
[18:25] <Tixos> :q
[18:25] <Tixos> to exit
[18:25] <KNUBBIG> Tixos: depends on your flavor :)
[18:26] <ron> morsedl3: okay, got back to the original state :)
[18:26] <ron> morsedl3: there's gui, can't login :)
[18:26] <Tixos> its a bit easier when you answer questions you are given wriggle!
[18:26] <mercury^> The contents of my .gtkrc-2.0 are: gtk-scrolled-window-placement = top-right
[18:26] <wriggle> i would answer them i didnt know how to check which editor
[18:27] <mercury^> I do not know whether that entry has no effect anymore or whether the file is ignored now.
[18:27] <Tixos> tbh, you should be doing anything on linux, if you dont know what vi is
[18:27] <Tixos> :(
[18:27] <Tixos> shouldnt*
[18:27] <zen_monkey> hi, is there a particular star alignment that may make my natty sloooow...?
[18:27] <wriggle> maybe
[18:27] <Tixos> lol
[18:27] <campee> can i change what key i want to use for the super key in unity?
[18:27] <Tixos> good luck
[18:27] <Tixos> yes campee, look in global shortcuts
[18:28] <morsedl3> ron: hmm... seems like progress.  can't log in with original account or new, empty account?
[18:28] <campee> Tixos: where's that?
[18:28] <Tixos> search in dash
[18:28] <campee> i did. nothing found
[18:28] <wriggle> hm :q doesnt get me out it says "no write since last change"
[18:29] <ron> morsedl3: guest session logins fine.
[18:29] <Tixos> wriggle: now you know what editor you are using
[18:29] <zen_monkey> well actually to avoid confusion...
[18:29] <Tixos> you can read the manual
[18:29] <uofm49426> will bttv still work in 11.10
[18:29] <rhizmoe> where is the sound control panel? typing "sound" into dash doesn't bring anything up.
[18:29] <kaolc2> I'm having problems getting Internet access on Ubuntu. Any other machines I try (windows based) work out of the box. My problem is that when I connect, I will have connectivity and ability to load sites for about 5-10 seconds and then it will permanently drop until I reconnect to the wireless network. I also had to set up the DNS manually as the default ones received didn't work (192.168.0.1) - any suggestions? I would greatly appre
[18:29] <Tixos> wriggle type this 'man vi'
[18:29] <morsedl3> ron: how about a new user (i.e, not your original account, but also not guest account)?
[18:29] <zen_monkey> this issue am experiencing is with pidgin and switching between desktops
[18:29] <phibxr> rhizmoe, click the sound-icon in the panel and click sound-settings.
[18:29] <ron> morsedl3: that would require creating a new user :p
[18:29] <aboSamoor> how can I initiate compiz from the tty ?
[18:29] <rhizmoe> phibxr: no sound icon since upgrading.
[18:29] <zen_monkey> chat window stalls and some times for quiete a bit frozen
[18:30] <rhizmoe> s/no/i don't have a/
[18:30] <trism> wriggle: if the file was changed, but you don't want to write those changed, you need to :q! instead of just :q
[18:30] <morsedl3> ron: as root, you should be able to run 'adduser ron-test ron-test'
[18:30] <phibxr> rhizmoe, then something likely went wrong. i actually find sound when i search for it in dash. :/
[18:30] <ron> morsedl3: *nod*
[18:30] <morsedl3> ron: or 'sudo adduser ...'
[18:30] <trism> wriggle: or :wq to write the changes and then quit
[18:30] <rhizmoe> yes, "something likely went wrong." i'm sure that has something to do with missing icons as well.
[18:31] <Amgine> Query: Will the Ubuntu 11.10 'Oneiric Ocelot' replace my kubuntu installation with non-kde?
[18:31] <wriggle> thanks trism
[18:31] <rhizmoe> i.e. in the icon bar, for terminal and drive icons.
[18:31] <wriggle> :wq helped
[18:31] <tle_> anyone know how to install sun-jdk on Ubuntu 11.10?
[18:31] <morsedl3> ron: you might have to run 'sudo addgroup ron-test' before running adduser with ron-test as the group (second option)
[18:31] <Tixos> wriggle: you will get further by using google, than asking simple questions in here
[18:32] <nibalizer> Is anyone else having trouble with the oneric netinstall images?
[18:32] <rhizmoe> ok, to avoid more stumpers, how do i (re)install the sound applet?
[18:32] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04, and cheese video record is slow to unusable even on low-res. Any ideas? Is it possible to configure gstreamer somehow (if the fault is on its side)
[18:32] <ohzie> Hey guys. Every once in a while Totem just freezes. I'm not sure how to diagnose the issue, let alone fix it. Any suggestions?
[18:32] <jamil_1> Hi all, my system is refusing to boot beyond the blue kubuntu screen after I upgraded to 11.10
[18:32] <nibalizer> I've pxe'd 2 different boxes with them and it just freezes up on me durring networking detection, can't even ctrl+alt+f3
[18:33] <Tixos> jamil_1: i doubt kubuntu is supported here
[18:33] <repl1cant> anyone know where in the heck Chrome stores it's wallpaper when you set it as your desktop?
[18:33] <kaolc2_> I
[18:34] <Tixos> lets try gnome3 then :)
[18:34] <prouter> Please help, I pressed, "control+t" instead of "control+alt+t" to get the terminal up in 11.10 and now there is a massive white window open I cant close.  What is it?
[18:34] <jamil_1> Tixos: hmm...heading to #kubuntu though I dont think issue is kubuntu specific
[18:35] <pertutatis> hi, I have a problem: I can't upgrade to 11.10 from 11.04. It say "Could not download the release notes"
[18:35] <choronzon> hello. I just updated to 11.10 from 11.04 and now flash is broken. I'm using 64 bits version. flash works for the most part, but on a few websites where I have to give it permision to use webcam and/or mic, I can't click the buttons. any ideas?
[18:35] <kaolc2_> I am having problems getting internet access on Ubuntu. Any other machines I try (windows based) work out of the box. My problem is that when I connect, I will have connectivity and ability to load sites for about 5-10 seconds and then it will permanently drop until I reconnect to the wireless network. I also had to set up the DNS manually as the detault ones received didn't work (192.168.0.1) - any suggestions? I would greatly appre
[18:35] <rhizmoe> prouter: dunno, but alt-f4 should help
[18:35] <rhizmoe> pertutatis: probably overloaded
[18:35] <skulltip> welll i upgraded and a few windowed opengl games aren't tearing or jerking anymore, i guess they can improve unity/compiz
[18:35] <prouter> OMG rhizmoe 11.10 fixed the terminal bell issue
[18:36] <pertutatis> rhizmoe: so what can I do?
[18:36] <rhizmoe> for the servers being overloaded? wait.
[18:36] <rhizmoe> try downloading the torrent
[18:36] <rhizmoe> and going from there
[18:36] <skulltip> then openarena caused it to crap out with whitewash, had to do a hard reboot
[18:37] <ron> morsedl3: okay, a newly created user logs in fine.
[18:37] <rhizmoe> hm, so what has replaced gnome-volume-control-applet
[18:37] <ron> morsedl3: so something must be messed up with my account.
[18:37] <pertutatis> rhizmoe: sorry! I get it now, ok! I may wait, no problem ;) thank you
[18:37] <choronzon> another issue after uprading, my webcam image looks black and white. with some shades of color here and there. and its mic doesn't work. logitech e2500. it worked perfectly up until last night when I made the mistake of upgrading :(
[18:38] <morsedl3> ron: along those lines, yes.  i've run into that a lot in ubuntu upgrades (although i only started with ubuntu at 9.04 or so)
[18:38] <trism> rhizmoe: in unity, indicator-sound has replaced gnome-volume-control-applet
[18:39] <skulltip> if i've already preorded oilrush, is there way to get it through the software center without 'buying'?
[18:39] <ron> morsedl3: well, I started with 10.11 :p I think..
[18:39] <rhizmoe> trism: thanks, i'll see if that works.
[18:39] <Tixos> Darael: gnome-shell is totally screwed
[18:39] <Tixos> is it simply that package that needs installing, or any other modifications to be made?
[18:39] <choronzon> the whole release looks pretty screwed to me
[18:39] <morsedl3> ron: i'd suggest that you first remove $HOME/.gconfd/saved_state and rm -rf $HOME/.cache -- those two have been the source of a lot of various problems for me.  remove them from ssh and then try again logging graphically
[18:40] <Tixos> choronzon: i agree, what the hell is going on
[18:40] <morsedl3> ron: or rather "under ssh session"
[18:40] <Tixos> gnome3 crashed in beta2, i reported bugs, not fixed..
[18:40] <choronzon> that's what you get from upgrading at the first day I guess
[18:40] <ejv> let me get this straight, your webcam doesn't work after upgrading to an unstable release, and you're surprised?
[18:40] <rustyshackleford> my box is overheating. Hot enough where the heat sink on the graphics card will burn. hot enough to cause fragmentation when the box runs. Hot enough to where sudo commands will stop working. Hot enough to make the internet unuseable. Hot. Too hot. What could one do to reasonably solve this
[18:40] <rhizmoe> trism: no indicator-applet in any bin directory
[18:41] <Tixos> man, i waited 5 days with a freshly built PC, for the release, to save me reinstalling, as im running a fully encrypted system
[18:41] <ron> morsedl3: umm, oops.
[18:41] <rhizmoe> er, indicator-sound. i have telepathy-indicator only
[18:41] <Tixos> rustyshackleford: buy a better case with more fans
[18:41] <ron> morsedl3: I deleted the whole .gconfd dir :-/
[18:41] <Tixos> #hardware go here
[18:41] <grzesiek_> hi, i have a question: how to add unity session i the login screen?
[18:41] <neo84> Hi, I have insalled ubuntu 11.10 and o configure uniy installed compiz, I am not sure what I did, Now luancher is not comming and also I am not able to edit panes
[18:41] <rhizmoe> rustyshackleford: stop overclocking
[18:41] <nytek_> exit
[18:42] <trism> rhizmoe: indicator-sound (and all indicators) are installed to libexecdir, which in this case would be /usr/lib/indicator-sound
[18:42] <morsedl3> ron: if that doesn't work, the remove than again and then also mv .gconf, .config, .local, and .gnome* to some other directory (e.g., mkdir /home/ron/dotfiles-moved/) and then trying logging in graphically.
[18:42] <Aquaguy> hey, how can I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 from terminal?
[18:42] <Tixos> are the devs trying to force us to use unity, by screwing up the gnome-shell package?
[18:42] <rhizmoe> trism: that seems slightly counterintuitive
[18:42] <rhizmoe> but thanks :)
[18:42] <rustyshackleford> rhiz I don't *think* I have. certainly not purposefully. Bios settings are standard, i believe. I'm operating with the case open. That should cool?
[18:42] <morsedl3> ron: (typo: ...remove _them_ again...)
[18:43] <morsedl3> ron: oh, no worries.  i've never seen .gconfd ever have any files other than saved_state, so you should be fine.
[18:43] <cazic> repo init -u https://github.com/SalvageMod/salvage.git -b gingerbread
[18:43] <cazic> /usr/bin/repo: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[18:43] <cazic> /usr/bin/repo: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">'
[18:43] <cazic> i keep getting that error why ?
[18:43] <PriceChild> The new Ubuntu font looks odd.
[18:43] <Flannel> Aquaguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29 (Read the full page for upgrade notes and things, but that's the specific section)
[18:43] <Gunz4MiPPle> how to get the gnome panel back
[18:43] <tle_> Does anyone know how to install sun-jdk on Ubuntu 11.10? It seems to be missing from the repos
[18:43] <Tixos> man screw unity
[18:43] <Tixos> give me gnome PLEASE
[18:43] <Gunz4MiPPle> this gnome shell panell is 2/3 of my screen!
[18:44] <Tixos> Gunz4MiPPle: its totally screwed for me too....
[18:44] <Flannel> cazic: Looks like that repo is either not there, or misconfigured.  Talk to the SalvageMod folks, or the git folks (#git).
[18:44] <choronzon> lol it sounds like everyone its having so much fun with this release.
[18:44] <Aquaguy> hey, how can I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 from terminal?
[18:44] <usertwo> tle_: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[18:44] <grzesiek_> hi, i have a question: how to add unity session i the login screen?
[18:44] <Gunz4MiPPle> Tixos: i just want the old panel in gnome shell
[18:44] <Flannel> Aquaguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29 (Read the full page for upgrade notes and things, but that's the specific section)
[18:44] <trism> rhizmoe: but that is just the dbus service (not required for an indicator), the actual indicator code is loaded from /usr/lib/indicators3/6/ (or whatever the path is in the current libindicator version)
[18:44] <Gunz4MiPPle> or gnome classic rather
[18:44] <ron> morsedl3: okay, moved all those. still no joy.
[18:44] <cazic> ok thanks flannel
[18:44] <dr_willis> im allready sick of people wanting the old gnome. :)
[18:45] <Aquaguy> Flannel, I pasted the same by mistake, sorry haha
[18:45] <morsedl3> ron: of course, backing up your entire homedir is a good idea before going further (i always do before any upgrade).  if it's too large, then at least backup all your dot-files and dot-directories. :)
[18:45] <morsedl3> ron: same effect -- blank screen after logging in?
[18:45] <point> Is the Ubuntu Classic desktop included in 11.10, before I upgrade?
[18:45] <cazic> that git channel wont let me talk =( lol
[18:45] <Tixos> point:  NO
[18:45] <dr_willis> point:  the old classic desktop is not.. Gnome-3 has a similer fallback mode.
[18:45] <usertwo> rustyshackleford: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/linux-kernel-power-issue-fix.html
[18:45] <Aquaguy> It is not an ubuntu server, is desktop, but I dont know why after it asks me for the password it does nothing.
[18:45] <ron> morsedl3: it blinks to black and after about 2 seconds goes back to the login screen.
[18:45] <dr_willis> point:  but its not gnome2
[18:45] <tetsuo--> hello, im getting this error when updating from 11.04 to 11.10 Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' main.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708124/ apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708125/  << What can i do to fix it?
[18:45] <Gunz4MiPPle> no point
[18:45] <Tixos> gnome packages are screwed
[18:46] <grzesiek_> hi, i have a question: how to add unity session in the login screen?
[18:46] <Tixos> i guess they want us to use unity
[18:46] <point> Unity only?  What is the Gnome-3 fallback?
[18:46] <Tixos> we screw that
[18:46] <Gunz4MiPPle> point, if you want the normal working gnome desktop then dont upgrade
[18:46] <dr_willis> Tixos:  they want to promote unity.. correct.
[18:46] <Tixos> +! ^
[18:46] <dr_willis> or use gnome-shell
[18:46] <rhizmoe> trism: and the sound indicator stuff is there, and indicator-sound-service is indeed running. no volume control icon/menu, though
[18:46] <Tixos> well it blows,
[18:46] <Tixos> gnome-shell is screwed
[18:46] <point> I have an older machine that doesn't support Unity.  Will the machine just break?
[18:46] <Gunz4MiPPle> gnome shell takes up 3/4 of my screeen!
[18:46] <dr_willis> Tixos:  this is support channel - not a complaint channel..
[18:47] <Tixos> ive posted for support
[18:47] <nvz> so I am doing a kinda rube goldberg install here, I dont have anything to boot with other than PXE and debian lenny is already on the system.. so I got the ubuntu install pxe booted, and shrunk the 150gb debian partition down to the minimum size of 40.7gb, and wanted to mount both drives and copy the /home from the debian onto the larger new partition and overwrite the debian partition as the new ubuntu root..
[18:47] <Chipzzz> tetsuo--: aptitude has a dependency resolver that may help you... it seems more thorough than apt-get's
[18:47] <Gunz4MiPPle> no pint it will go to 2d unity
[18:47] <dgtl> hi there
[18:47] <nvz> main problem is I dont know how to do this from the busybox
[18:47] <morsedl3> ron: hmmm... sounds like X or something is crashing.  that should be logged in .xsession-errors.  try 'less /home/ron/.xsession-errors' and start at the end of the file and pgup from there to find any errors and lmk if you see anything potentially helpful.
[18:47] <Tixos> dr_willis: i posted in beta2 release
[18:47] <Tixos> and its still not working
[18:47] <tetsuo--> Chipzzz:  how can i invoke it?
[18:47] <dr_willis> theres some mention of the classic like gnome 3 thing at --> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[18:47] <Gunz4MiPPle> its like O#U
[18:47] <dgtl> do we have VDPAU support for all relevant applications in Oneiric Ocelot?
[18:47] <dr_willis> Tixos:  i have no idea what problem you are even talking about.
[18:48] <Chipzzz> sudo aptitude in a terminal window
[18:48] <tle_> usako, thank you!
[18:48] <grzesiek_>    hi, i have a question: how to add unity session in the login screen?
[18:48] <ron> morsedl3: the file was last modified about 3 hours ago.
[18:48] <trism> rhizmoe: very odd
[18:48] <Tixos> i was told to install gnome-shell, yet when i change to this shell, it doesnt even load and forces me to use the power button..
[18:48] <tetsuo--> Chipzzz:  oknow what?
[18:48] <Tixos> no, my machine isnt at fault
[18:49] <morsedl3> ron: k, that's odd.  at least some informational message should be logged there, which suggests that perhaps X isn't even starting or is segfault
[18:49] <nvz> hmm maybe I should've chosen expert mode install
[18:49] <point> I think it's time to switch distros.  Ubuntu is becoming too much like commercial software.
[18:49] <mfilipe> is normal the dash stays back of windows?
[18:49] <Chipzzz> tetsuo--: press 'e'
[18:49] <pdg1> i can't find information for known issues. on both computers i updated to 11.10 the nic doesn't work
[18:49] <ron> morsedl3: this is my directory structure.. maybe you'll find something odd: http://pastebin.com/hcN6aBuw
[18:49] <morsedl3> ron: segfaulting.  nothing telling in /var/log/syslog ?
[18:49] <Tixos> point: dont tempt me!
[18:50] <dr_willis> mfilipe:  ive seen it get confused and do that.
[18:50] <Yxven> I'm trying to install 11.10 on a new machine. It posts, but it never gets to the GRUB menu. I've tried kubuntu twice, and ubuntu twice with the same result using the guided setup using the whole drive
[18:50] <Tixos> im fine with ubuntu, but ubuntu looses too much time for me in changing windows so i cant use it
[18:50] <Tixos> and now i cant even change shell!
[18:50] <Tixos> unity*
[18:50] <tetsuo--> Chipzzz: i press "e' but nothing happens
[18:50] <dr_willis> gnome shell worked for me great in beta. setting up a new box now. time to see how well it works now.
[18:50] <vak> hi all
[18:50] <skulltip> no offense, but gnome 3 is what unity is striving to be.. just sayin
[18:50] <nvz> Tixos: unity is crap.. looks like that stupid shit Win8 is going to do... I use the classic interface
[18:50] <okCPU_> \join #nginx
[18:51] <nvz> and if gnome 3 is like that, then I dont even wanna see it
[18:51] <Companion> I thought #ubuntu-offopic might like  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCDLLHibTtU
[18:51] <h00k> nvz: please keep the language clean
[18:51] <Tixos> i cant use classic, (gnome2) or gnome3
[18:51] <Companion> oh
[18:51] <dr_willis> gnome-3 is very much a work in progress also.  a year from now. i bet both will be very  much improved.
[18:51] <Companion> wrong chan :s
[18:51] <hansg01> is this the official channel for oneiric?
[18:51] <Tixos> sjhell doesnt even load
[18:51] <FloodBot1> Companion: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <Chipzzz> tetsuo--: then you have no unresolved dependencies... sorry... onward and upward :)
[18:51] <morsedl3> ron: yep.  you have a recent "core" file, which means something is faulting -- probably with a segfault, and that's causing a core file to be written.  is the time aroudn 17:47 where you are located (or, more precisely, on your machine)?
[18:51] <douggle> i m using classic as well
[18:51] <h00k> hansg01: this would be it.
[18:51] <Gunz4MiPPle> classic is still gnome shell
[18:51] <Calinou_> hi, now ubuntu 11.04 works fine, however: when I log off to switch to gnome fallback, there's a console with "Checking battery state [OK]" nothing else
[18:51] <skulltip> for me gnome 3 was much nicer but had the lag with opengl games, had to switch to classic, openbox, etc
[18:51] <vak> My screen got locked during upgrade, but password is not accepted anymore for unclear reason -- any help how to let update to finish?
[18:51] <tetsuo--> Chipzzz: i only have the unresolved dependencies during the upgrade, in normal state nothing wrong
[18:51] <Tixos> 11.04's gnome2 shell was fine
[18:51] <choronzon> flash buttons have become unclickable after upgrading to 11.10. using 64 bits version here. any ideas? thanks
[18:52] <ron> morsedl3: Fri Oct 14 20:51:43 IST 2011 <-- current time on the machine.
[18:52]  * Companion hits FloodBot1 with a freshly used **** and hits FloodBot1 again with a  ****** and make sure FloodBot1 ends in a ****
[18:52] <Tixos> dr_willis: if you insist it works fine, can you help me debug ?
[18:52] <nac-godfather> How come when I set the permissions of a folder to root/non-executable; it is still accessible via apache2 server?  I don't want to move my symlink, but yet want to hide or password protect a folder from my webserver...
[18:52] <ikonia> Companion: if you have to star out words, don't use them please
[18:52] <c2tarun> are there any applications in java language in ubuntu or kubuntu?
[18:52] <popsch> how can I turn off the notification of what music is playing in banshee?
[18:52] <hansg01> i am currently using fedora and oneiric
[18:52] <dr_willis> choronzon:  ages ago there was a similer issue.  and some work arounds like holding down the shift key as you clicked, or compiz tweaks.. but not seen it mentioned lately.
[18:52] <Companion> ikonia, I preffer wildcards so people can use their imagination for one day
[18:53] <dr_willis> Tixos:  im just now installing on my new desktop. my other beta box has been headless for 2 weeks. :)
[18:53] <ikonia> Companion: ok - I'll make myself clear "if you have to use stars for words, DON'T use them"
[18:53] <hansg01> i screwed the bootloader and nw only fedora is able to boot
[18:53] <ejv> you guys *knew* ubuntu was moving toward unity and dropping gnome2 support, don't complain, just use Mint instead
[18:53] <hansg01> and no bootloader is displayed
[18:53] <morsedl3> ron: also, i've not seen an .nvidia-settings-rc before, and you have one.  try moving that out of the way (i.e., to a different directory or to .nvidia-settings-rc-keepme)
[18:53] <nac-godfather> Also, would like to enable a shutdown, sleep, and wake buttons on my new keyboard, but seems a little involved (online tutorials)
[18:53] <dr_willis> If you perfer an old-skool type desktop - Lubuntu is very very nicely done.
[18:53] <Tixos> dr_willis: ok, no idea whats up, it was the same on beta for me, and that was on another machine...
[18:53] <pdg1> does anyone know of an issue with 11.10 and network cards?
[18:53] <nac-godfather> Lubuntu ha!
[18:53] <Guest78537> hi can anyone help me fix a massive problem please? I did the dist-upgrade today and now I have an error on boot "Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection Refused. I'm in big trouble, please help!??
[18:53] <Chipzzz> tetsuo--: Sorry, that was the only suggestion that popped into my mind
[18:53] <ejv> or xubuntu or kubuntu or lubuntu or any other variant
[18:53] <nac-godfather> gimma a break
[18:53] <Companion> ikonia, not to piss you off but it coulda been 'fish' or 'haring' too :)
[18:53] <Tixos> F*** lubuntu
[18:54] <Companion> uh oh
[18:54] <vyshay> how do i set my preffered application for opening urls ?
[18:54] <ikonia> Companion: if you have to use stars to hide words - don't use them. Clear ?
[18:54] <Companion> ikonia, can I PM you for a bit?
[18:54] <ikonia> Companion: sure
[18:54] <trism> vyshay: in oneiric? System Settings/System Info/Default Applications
[18:55] <ron> morsedl3: still no joy. I feel like I'm tk
[18:55] <Calinou_> when I log off to switch to gnome fallback, there's a console with "Checking battery state [OK]"; nothing else. how am I supposed to use it? and also, how to I use "previous linux versions"'s 11.04 by default? I have to hold shift to use GRUB every time to boot the coorect system, not the failed one...
[18:55] <ron> morsedl3: still no joy. I feel like I'm taking up too much of your time :-/
[18:55] <morsedl3> ron: you might also try moving .compiz out of the way.  probably best to change one thing at a time so we can pinpoint the exact problem.  that way, you can move all your other dot-files and dot-directories back into place, excluding the problematic one, so as to have the least impact.
[18:55] <vyshay> trism: there it is! thanks
[18:55] <dr_willis> Checking out my new install.. Just noticed the Overlay Scrollbars do not seem to be working for firefox.  :)
[18:55] <nac-godfather> should it really take over 4 hours to move a 18GB iso file to an external HD?
[18:55] <nac-godfather> wtf!
[18:56] <Kearlin> Can anyone help on my booting problem?
[18:56] <nac-godfather> sure, what's the problem
[18:56] <Guest78537> if anyone can please help, i've just got a blank black screen and a mouse in kubuntu after doing the dist-upgrade this morning? please help
[18:56] <ikonia> !wtf > nac-godfather
[18:56] <morsedl3> ron: no worries re: time.  i multitask pretty well. :)
[18:56] <edbian> nac-godfather, probably through usb
[18:56] <nac-godfather> will do
[18:56] <ron> morsedl3: didn't realize you're a woman.
[18:56] <ejv> !wtf > ejv
[18:56] <Kearlin> I freshly installed ubuntu 11.10, and I get grub error with no such device
[18:56] <usertwo> Kearlin: try the other foot?
[18:56] <morsedl3> ron: :) man with woman's blood (really). :)
[18:56] <hansg01> how can i get the bootloader re installed
[18:57] <ejv> ah *giggle*
[18:57] <nac-godfather> grub, grub2, syslinux, ?
[18:57] <ron> morsedl3: not sure I wanna know ;)
[18:57] <h00k> !grub2 | hansg01 there's recover instructions, here
[18:57] <morsedl3> ron: bone marrow transplant recipient, and donor was a woman.  so i bleed XX chromosomes. :)
[18:57] <nsahoo> anyone familiar with NUMA setup?
[18:57] <The_BROS> How to delete user applet from bottom panel?
[18:57] <h00k> !ot | morsedl3, ron
[18:57] <Kearlin> I think it's grub2, the default with ubuntu, right?
[18:57] <edbian> hansg01, sudo grub-install /dev/sda   (assuming hdd sda) but you also need to mount and boot boot-directory at your mounted /
[18:57] <rhizmoe> well i guess it's no volume control for me. any ideas of mailing lists or anything else where i would be able to find out if this ever gets fixed?
[18:57] <ejv> hansg01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[18:57] <edbian> hansg01, Do you have the system booting or are you booting a live CD trying to fix an install
[18:58] <ron> morsedl3: moved. not enough.
[18:58] <svs1> Hi mates, I was just wondering if there's any group supporting or maintaining the Mate Desktop Project for Ubuntu, Unity really sucks
[18:58] <Bearcat> hello folks. I just attempted an update from [something] to 10.10 which failed. During the package install, when it was going to overwrite the updater config file, it got an error 12 and crapped out. Now, when i go into the upgrade manager, it wants to upgrade to 11.11. My question is: Should i reboot before doing this upgrade (and risk a non-starting system or just do the upgrade?
[18:58] <rhizmoe> svs1: if so, they're probably in their own channel
[18:58] <morsedl3> ron: and same behavior?
[18:58] <Kearlin> Yes, I have tried that. It reports no error. However, it still doesn't work.
[18:58] <DarsVaeda> hi, is gwibber extendable (like with google+ or reddit or such)?
[18:58] <ron> morsedl3: but of course.
[18:58] <choronzon> dr_willis, thanks. compiz was the issue. I logged back into using unity 2D and now flash buttons are clickable again
[18:58] <hansg01> edbian: i m currently on fedora and want the ubuntu bootloader bck
[18:58] <kaolc2_> I am having problems getting internet access on Ubuntu. Any other machines I try (windows based) work out of the box. My problem is that when I connect, I will have connectivity and ability to load sites for about 5-10 seconds and then it will permanently drop until I reconnect to the wireless network. I also had to set up the DNS manually as the detault ones received didn't work (192.168.0.1) - any suggestions? I would greatly appre
[18:59] <ron> morsedl3: what about the .dbus dir?
[18:59] <dr_willis> choronzon:  sounds like an old bug reappearing.. :)
[18:59] <przemek__> hello is this support channel?
[18:59] <mobal> hi
[18:59] <The_BROS> How to delete user applet but not to delete switch-ico?
[18:59] <morsedl3> ron: yes, try that one.
[18:59] <nac-godfather> It's never really advisable to upgrade via synaptic, just reinstall (backup etc).
[18:59] <mobal> it is possible to disable - not delete - the nouveau driver?
[18:59] <ejv> yes the topic says official ubuntu support channel :p
[18:59] <rhizmoe> kaolc2_: don't tell us you haven't checked your log files
[18:59] <edbian> hansg01, ubuntu and fedora are both using grub2, so maybe we can just edit the grub2 you have installed to be able to boot both.  How's that sound?
[18:59] <choronzon> dr_willis, do you remember if there is a workaround for it? i'll try googling it
[18:59] <dr_willis> The_BROS:  a lot of tweaks here -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[18:59] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: Which log files?
[18:59] <rhizmoe> kaolc2_: all of them
[18:59] <Bearcat> nac-godfather: that was at me?
[18:59] <rhizmoe> kaolc2_: /var/log/*
[18:59] <dr_willis> choronzon:  there were a dozen + differnt tweaks and work arounds i recall.
[18:59] <nac-godfather> OMG! Yeah, forgot about that stupid nouveau driver, pain i;nt he
[19:00] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: Got a link that explains which specifically?
[19:00] <choronzon> thanks
[19:00] <usertwo> two questions (simple, but I dont know the answers!).1. how can i get my name to highlight here when some sends me a response? 2. what is the command to quit!?
[19:00] <dr_willis> Nouveau is actually working for me in 11.10 :)
[19:00] <rhizmoe> kaolc2_: nope
[19:00] <Kearlin> I posted my boot info script output at this post. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860158
[19:00] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: Then you didn
[19:00] <hansg01> edbian: yeah thats kewl i am using fedora 15 but i didnt saw ne bootloader as such directly fedora gets booted
[19:00] <dr_willis> usertwo:  thats a feature of your irc client.. and  normally its /quit
[19:00] <kaolc2_> didn't help at all
[19:00] <nac-godfather> what is working?  Showing your desktop?  Who really wants that crappy driver anyways?
[19:00] <The_BROS> dr_willis: no I want to tweak 10.04 LTS
[19:00] <Bearcat> nac-godfather: thanks!
[19:00] <mobal> it is working for me too, but i need nvidia dev driver...
[19:00] <morsedl3> ron: but, dbus errors should be showing up in /var/log/syslog... have you checked that logfile recently?  it's quite odd that _nothing_ relevant is being logged there.  is the date/time of your "core" file changing to something more recent?  if so, it might be that the crash is happening even before calls to syslog can be made.
[19:00] <nac-godfather> can't believe it's installed by default
[19:00] <rhizmoe> kaolc2_: well, we now know that you don't check your log files. that's helpful.
[19:01] <jamil_1> Hi all, my pc is not booting because it cant find the compatible driver for nvidia card
[19:01] <edbian> hansg01, in fedora: sudo update-grub    (make sure it outputs stuff about finding ubuntu)
[19:01] <berefeira> where do we leave tips to ubuntu devs for next upgrade?
[19:01] <dr_willis> The_BROS:   id have to say hit up google/. and askubuntu and the forums. should be plenty of hits on it.
[19:01] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: I
[19:01] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[19:01] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: Sorry, bad keyboard. I'll read them now.
[19:01] <The_BROS> dr_willis:ok
[19:01] <przemek__> my update from 11.04 to 11.10 failed a little. I lost end part because of xorg/gnome crash. so the part which I chose to remove old and unsupported packages i missed. is there a way to remove old no longer supported packages? my 11.10 runs smoothly :)
[19:01] <usertwo> \quit
[19:01] <nac-godfather> Anyone here got any 64 bit media plugins working in firefox?
[19:01] <TheProf> exit
[19:01] <morsedl3> ron: also, check /var/log/Xorg.log and related files for errors
[19:01] <nac-godfather> Can't seem to get anything that'll play avi's to work
[19:02] <hansg01> edbian: i tried this earlier but command not found
[19:02] <dr_willis> nac-godfather:  got a url to such an avi?   could be the codec of the avi thats the issue
[19:02] <ghostnik11> hi I have a quick question I want to install Ubuntu 11.10 on a Compaq presario c700 but for some reason the keyboard for laptop don't work when I try to install, does anyone have clue why b/c right now I am booting Ubuntu 8.10 off my external hard drive right now and the keyboard Camden mouse is suddenly working
[19:03] <edbian> hansg01, hang on
[19:03] <nac-godfather> Yeah, I have one embedded within my own webserver which should play directly
[19:03] <luca> dear friends where can we see the packages in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:03] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: I do not see anything relevant in any logs. What do you suggest now?
[19:03] <mfilipe> why does the dash behind windows?
[19:03] <paranoid_ndroid> I was upgrading to the last ubuntu and my net got down. I tried to log out but it restarted. Now it does not boot, what to do?
[19:03] <mfilipe> why is the dash behind windows?*
[19:03] <przemek__> luca, sudo synaptic
[19:03] <ron> morsedl3: okay, I copied the syslog aside, and tail -f it. tried logging in, and nothing was written to it.
[19:03] <edbian> hansg01, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/making-fedora-15a-grub-recognize-other-distros-874137/   read this.  Ask around in the fedora forum.  They're probably more familiar with this problem.
[19:03] <morsedl3> ron: bwah, can't believe i forgot this one: try moving .themes out of the way.
[19:04] <dr_willis> mfilipe:  it dosent come above when you mouse over to the left?
[19:04] <cwillu> mfilipe, bugs;  you might try enabling -proposed
[19:04] <przemek__> is there a way to clean old unwanted packages form previous release after upgrade?
[19:04] <przemek__> from not form :)
[19:04] <cwillu> mfilipe, I believe that one should be mostly fixed, and an general update is forthcoming
[19:04] <ron> morsedl3: nice guess. didn't work.
[19:04] <morsedl3> ron: try .themes, and try tail -f on your Xorg.log file
[19:04] <luca> przmeek: thank you very much I put it in my launcher
[19:05] <lauratika> ok, im using new ocelotl, under gnome classic and for some reason windows decoration is not been respected by compiz, i only have opera windowless any idea why this behaviour?
[19:05] <sarkis_> hey guys, so i upgraded to 11.10, do i want the additional nvidia drivers from current or current-update?
[19:05] <przemek__> luca, you must heve this in menu/panel as synaptic package manager as well.
[19:05] <sarkis_> which one is newer?
[19:05] <luca> dear friends can you install gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:05] <beingjohnm> sarkis_: current-update is newer. They both are VERY BUGGY though.
[19:06] <ron> morsedl3: nothing is written.
[19:06] <beingjohnm> or maybe that is Unity being very buggy
[19:06] <Amoz> luca, apt-get install gnome-shell, i suppose that's what you want?
[19:06] <ron> morsedl3: wait.
[19:06] <sarkis_> cool thanks
[19:06] <luca> I'd like to install gnome 3
[19:06] <luist> how do i create a new pool with reprepro?
[19:06] <kaolc2_> My wireless connectivity is dropping after 10 seconds of being connected. Reconnecting gives me another approximate 10 seconds with net. I can't ping google, but I can ping my router. The same network works on all other boxes. My hardware works with all other networks. What do you guys suggest?
[19:06] <luca> which of you installed it?
[19:07] <xauth> kaolc2: checked /var/log/syslog yet?
[19:07] <przemek__> i'm just after upgrade luca
[19:07] <ron> morsedl3: aha!
[19:07] <morsedl3> ron: find something?
[19:07] <luca> przmeek_: did you install gnome 3?
[19:07] <przemek__> nope
[19:08] <Amoz> luca, I've got gnome-shell and gnome 3 running
[19:08] <mobal> it is impossible to disable nouveau
[19:08] <zastaph> seems to me that Unity now works without 3D acceleration in 11.10
[19:08] <mobal> must to delete...
[19:08] <luca> Amoz: is gnome 3 stable?
[19:08] <nibalizer> mobal: nouveau can be removed
[19:08] <Amoz> luca, yes
[19:08] <h00k> luca: yes.
[19:08] <mobal> is gnome 3 stable...
[19:08] <mobal> new unity uses tooo
[19:08] <kaolc2_> xauth: Reading now, thank you.
[19:08] <rhizmoe> kaolc2_: what does /var/log/syslog say about your dhcp?
[19:09] <hansg01> how to make use of ubuntu bootloader and not fedora's?
[19:09] <nibalizer> mobal: use `echo 0 > /sys/class/vtconsole/vtcon1/bind`
[19:09] <luca> which is the command to install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.10?
[19:09] <nibalizer> then rmmod nouveau
[19:09] <luca> or the package?
[19:09] <h00k> luca: Gnome 3 is installed on 11.10 by default.
[19:09] <lauratika> anyone please??
[19:09] <nac-godfather> yeah, I can give a list of my installed packages related to nouveau, which I removed to get nvidia driver working.
[19:09] <nac-godfather> with CUDA
[19:09] <Amoz> luca, I supposed you're talking about Gnome Shell, apt-get install gnome-shell
[19:10] <luca> h00k: gnome 3 isn't installed by default who told you that?
[19:10] <rhizmoe> how is it that there's no link from ubuntu brainstorm to the main ubuntu site?
[19:10] <Guest64352> I need HELP about the new version upgrade. I was installing the upgrade when my computer when an electricity break shuttle down my computer. I can't log no more onto my system, i m afraid all my data Is lost!Please give some indication to retrieve my informations.............
[19:10] <nibalizer> nac-godfather: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting and look at Deactivating KMS
[19:10] <h00k> luca: yes it is. The release notes say so. Don't confuse gnome-shell with Unity.
[19:10] <przemek__> ok, bye see you soon.
[19:10] <rhizmoe> Guest64352: boot to live cd
[19:10] <coppro> I there.
[19:10] <coppro> *Hi there.
[19:10] <ron> morsedl3: sec, going to reboot.
[19:10] <Edmund> Hi, I was trying to make audio work over hdmi and couldnt so resorted to upgrading the alsa modules via ppa. on reboot though it seems it messed up grub, there was an 'error 15, file not found'. I've booted up a live cd several times and tried several ta ot seog tsuj utorials but it still wont work. the only difference is it now doesnt say file not found but
[19:11] <cwillu> h00k, I think you meant "don't confuse gnome-shell with gnome3"
[19:11] <luca> h00k: so we have gnome 3 with unity?
[19:11] <nac-godfather> nibalizer, yeah, non of that should be necessary
[19:11] <coppro> Does anyone know what volume and power tray applets are in the oneric repositories? The GNOME ones were removed
[19:11] <coppro> I'm not using Unity or Plasma. I need a real tray applet
[19:11] <morsedl3> ron: k
[19:11] <h00k> luca: 11.10 is Gnome 3.2 with Unity running as the shell. Gnome-shell is an alternate to Unity.
[19:11] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: Not that much.. I
[19:11] <luca> which is better gnome shell or unity?
[19:12] <h00k> !best | luca
[19:12] <pangolin> luca: try them and you decide
[19:12] <Amoz> luca, which is better, pizza or pasta?
[19:12] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: Stupid keyboard again. I don't see any useful information in there, some DHCPACKs, offers and requests
[19:12] <feynn> hello. i want to edit a file with vi but i can only read. whats the command to change that?
[19:12] <dr_willis> feynn:  where/what file is it?
[19:12] <blkperl> feynn: sudo vi
[19:12] <nibalizer> Edmund: sudo
[19:12] <Edmund> goes to a grub prompt. one important thing i've noticed is that I made a boot partition on install which it was using before- now I've tried to re-install grub though.. and told it which partition to use, etc, is I've now got a /boot direcory in my linux partition..so maybe its writing to the wrong place when I configure it?
[19:12] <feynn> im root but i can still only read it
[19:12] <Polah> How can I remove entries from the GNOME shell applications? I have duplicates of many programs, one with a high quality image and on with a low quality pixelated image. Additionally, how can I remove ~/Downloads and ~/Documents and so on from the file browser sidebar?
[19:12] <toby> google a basic vi tutorial, feynn
[19:12] <nibalizer> feynn: then :wq!
[19:12] <nibalizer> with the exclamation point
[19:13] <nibalizer> that means you mean it
[19:13] <toby> you need to enter interactive mode or append/insert/edit/whetever mode
[19:13] <mrjack> hi everyone, if, in a new clean ubuntu install, I select the existing home folder to be the default home of the new install without formating it, is there any danger for my data there ?
[19:13] <Edmund> yes I used sudo
[19:13] <Amoz> mrjack, shouldn't be
[19:13] <cwillu> feynn, if a file is marked -w for everything, vim will still warn;  nibalizer gave the correct incantation
[19:13] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: "canceled DHCPv4 transaction, DHCP client pid 7037" related?
[19:13] <dr_willis> mrjack:  you mean existing home Partition? if you tell it to not format.. then the data shoul dbe safe.. but i woul dmake backups in any case
[19:13] <Amoz> mrjack, just use the same filesystem
[19:14] <cwillu> note that if you're editing sudoers directly, you're asking for trouble :p
[19:14] <feynn> thanks everyone. working now
[19:14] <nac-godfather> sudo visudo
[19:14] <Amoz> real men just use nano
[19:14] <nibalizer> Amoz: no, wrong
[19:14] <nac-godfather> I like to change my user id to 0 as well so I'm equal to root!
[19:14] <blkperl> nac-godfather: sudo su -
[19:14] <Edmund> when I try find /grub/stage1, as  the tuts says to, it cant be found- despite it all working before from the boot partition. it can only be found in /boot/grub/stage1.. and then all thesetup and stuff works. but it should be writing to the boot partition not /boot in my linux partition
[19:14] <Amoz> nibalizer, emacs?
[19:15] <h00k> nac-godfather: that's a bad idea.
[19:15] <nac-godfather> woot!  Anyone wanna try and root my system?  good luck http://mcurran-exploit.dyndns.org
[19:15] <mrjack> Amoz: @dr_w thanks !
[19:15] <h00k> nac-godfather: please do not advertise in here.
[19:15] <Guest64352> The new Ubuntu version upgrade has been iterrupted by a system shutdown, Now I  can't log no more onto my system, i m afraid all my data Is lost!Please give some indications.........
[19:15] <saml> hey,  is booting cached?  I tried to text boot.. but gdm still starts
[19:15] <Edmund> (I'm using 10.10)
[19:15] <blkperl> can some kick Guest64352 he's clearly a troll
[19:15] <ghostnik11> are there viruses that affect the computer keyboard
[19:16] <Guest64352> Hows that a troll...
[19:16] <dweez> blkperl, how is he a troll?
[19:16] <Guest64352> just trying to figure out what going on with my messy system.
[19:16] <NUllZer0> good evening people :)
[19:16] <Kearlin> usertwo: the other foot?
[19:16] <blkperl> dweez: spamming the same thing over and over again
[19:16] <ron> morsedl3: http://pastebin.com/QP4h9rda <-- maybe you could make something out of it.
[19:16] <dweez> that's not troll-like, that's nub-like
[19:16] <Guest64352> Yes...
[19:16] <blkperl> Guest64352: we already told boot to a live cd
[19:16] <dweez> Guest64352, type /nick <newnick>
[19:16] <Guest64352> Indeed
[19:16] <h00k> !noob | dweez
[19:17] <dweez> h00k, sorry, no offense meant
[19:17] <Beret> oneiric nicely booted me to an empty desktop, no unity, no bar, nothing
[19:17] <Guest64352> to i need to reinstall?
[19:17] <saml> how can I reboot computer frmo the beginnging.. it looks like ubuntu just restores from  hibernation?
[19:17] <pavan> hello everyone, I'm new to ubuntu, just installed 11.10 on dell xps, I have a datacard and no other means to connect to net, I tried connecting to net by plugging in the device and entered my username and password, but I'm unable to connect to internet, is there any way
[19:17] <saml> bootoptions in grub aren't taken into account
[19:17] <dweez> Beret, cany you go to another TTY and log in?
[19:17] <mobal> how can i shut down X in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:17] <saml> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text"
[19:18] <Guest64352>  /nick <newnick>
[19:18] <saml> I'm using 11.10
[19:18] <nibalizer> mobal: service gdm stop
[19:18] <siddharthasahu> hi everyone!!
[19:18] <dweez> saml, sudo shutdown -r now
[19:18] <trism> nibalizer: probably lightdm, which is the default in 11.10, but same idea
[19:18] <mobal> not really... ubuntu 11.10 using lightdm
[19:18] <mobal> gdm unrecognized...
[19:18] <saml> dweez, i did many times.. still gdm comes up
[19:18] <Beret> dweez, done, I'm running unity --reset now
[19:18] <saml> i did  e  on grub menu.. and made sure  text is put in the kernel option
[19:19] <Beret> it seems to be stuck on "Initializing composite options?done"
[19:19] <mama58> ciao a tutti
[19:19] <simpleblue> whats a good program for making music?
[19:19] <morsedl3> ron: hmm... nothing terribly telling there.
[19:19] <Beret> actually that did it
[19:19] <mama58> !list
[19:19] <Beret> I have my desktop back
[19:19] <ron> morsedl3: this is exciting :)
[19:19] <adv_> anyone on compiz? i have 2 problems. 1. alt+tab won't work anymore 2. i cant click on the 2nd workspace
[19:19] <pangolin> !it | mama58
[19:19] <siddharthasahu> the super + D shortcut for minimizing all windows does not work currently on Ubuntu 11.10 x64...is there an alternate way??
[19:19] <zelozelos> simpleblue, audasity (however u spell it) is good for editing music
[19:19] <morsedl3> ron: indeed. :)
[19:19] <dweez> saml, if you don't want to boot into the GUI you need to change your startup level.  I know how to do it with inittab but can't remember how to do it with the rc.XXXX stuff
[19:20] <ron> morsedl3: I'm just about ready to start burning the machine :)
[19:20] <pangolin> !nox | saml
[19:20] <zelozelos> simpleblue, the ubuntu studio has a bunch of stuff thoug
[19:20] <lauratika> does anyone had any luck using no windows under compiz in windows manager on 11.10?
[19:20] <simpleblue> i wanted something that is able to make drum beats and add keyboard..
[19:20] <saml> pangolin, that's what i did
[19:20] <morsedl3> ron: i'm afraid we're getting to the point where tracking down the problem might be more trouble than working around it.
[19:20] <point_> lol
[19:20] <dp> anyone know of something like smtm that is console based?
[19:20] <Beret> dweez, so I fixed it, but do you know if there's a log anywhere to see what failed?
[19:20] <zelozelos> lauratika, i eventually got it going w cube compiz and expo whats up?
[19:20] <simpleblue> zelozelos, i just wanted to try the one program, but a whole studio
[19:20] <Epsi> Hi there, I appear to be stuck with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/820485 . No solution is listed on that page, I was wondering if there was a known workaround on here at all.
[19:21] <simpleblue> i used a good program before but forgot what it was called
[19:21] <johnfn> i'm having reallly serious problems with ubuntu 11.10. all my desktop icons disappear whenever i try to open a folder (oh yeah, and the folder doesn't open either). seems to be a pretty unity /graphics problem i'm guessing - any tips?
[19:21] <korsakof1> Hi! Is it a good idea to turn on the "unattended-upgrades" package with the reboot option at true on my production servers?
[19:21] <mama58> ciao a tutti
[19:21] <zelozelos> simpleblue, ubuntu studio is a flavor like kubuntu, cept its still with gnome and xfce (i think xfce its been a while)
[19:21] <mama58> !list
[19:21] <ron> morsedl3: it's really puzzling though.
[19:21] <morsedl3> ron: i ran into this upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04.  spent a lot of time trying to track down the problem and, in the end, simply re-populating the dot-files and dot-directories a handful at a time resolved things most effectively.
[19:21] <lordjj> What's a good PDF creator for Ubuntu?
[19:21] <simpleblue> its too much for me to download zelozelos
[19:22] <pavan> hello everyone, I'm new to ubuntu, just installed 11.10 on dell xps, I have a datacard and no other means to connect to net, I tried connecting to net by plugging in the device and entered my username and password, but I'm unable to connect to internet, is there any way
[19:22] <morsedl3> ron: it is puzzling, and drove me nuts that i couldn't track it down, and i do this stuff for a living (well, used to, anyway).
[19:22] <lauratika> zelozelos: im trying to use the browser windlowless but aint working
[19:22] <dweez> Beret, you can check in /var/log and look at dmesg or maybe Xorg.0.log
[19:22] <ron> morsedl3: quick question, how do I ls sorted on modification date? :p
[19:22] <zelozelos> simpleblue, all the programs offered with the studio are available by them selves as well
[19:23] <meco> !spotify
[19:23] <Edmund> hi, anyone have any experience with GRUB- it just goes to a prompt and the list is gone. I tried to reinstall but it has made a /boot/ in my linux partition, whereas before I had a seperate partition. I've told it the root and setup, etc and its said its worked..but still just goes to a prompt
[19:23] <morsedl3> ron: so, i'd say try this: move *all* of your dotfiles and dotdirs out of the way and try logging in that way.
[19:23] <morsedl3> ron: ls -lt for by date
[19:23] <meco> How can I listen to spotify with ubuntu?
[19:23] <zelozelos> lauratika, never tried that but let me take a look at ccsm for a sec n see how it would do it
[19:23] <simpleblue> i'll check the ubuntu studio out then and find which one it was, thanks
[19:23] <xangua> meco: download spotify and run it with wine
[19:23] <Kearlin> Edmund: what is the prompt you get?
[19:24] <Plowjob> I have this issue, where whenever I play something (Youtube, banshee mediaplayer) the playrate is twice as fast as it should be and no sound is being played. Video playback works tho.
[19:24] <dweez> meco, maybe this ==> http://www.spotify.com/us/blog/archives/2010/07/12/linux/
[19:24] <xangua> meco: if you have a pay account you can download the native client
[19:24] <mobal> this new release blows my head :D
[19:24] <Kearlin> Edmund: I think I have a similar problem.
[19:24] <meco> I don't have wine. Doesn't that use very much resources?
[19:24] <alks> hello, unity is not starting. How could i turn it on?
[19:24] <lordjj> Anyone know a good PDF editor?
[19:24] <Edmund> a 'grub>' prompt..or something like that.. the same as if you run grub from the terminal
[19:24] <mobal> it is impossible to stop x server lol
[19:25] <yeats> mobal: what commands are you trying that aren't working?
[19:25] <Kearlin> I think my case is worse it's a "grub rescue>"
[19:25] <dweez> mobal, the sudo service lightdm stop didn't work?
[19:25] <simpleblue> i think the program might have been ardour
[19:25] <Beret> so I really can't set my own font size? :)
[19:25] <luca> dear friends how can you use php on ubuntu 11.10?
[19:25] <dweez> mobal, are you just trying to get it to stop booting up into GUI?
[19:25] <lauratika> zelozelos:great thanx man... by the way im using this commmand "& !name=opera"
[19:25] <trism> Beret: install gnome-tweak-tool and you can configure the default fonts
[19:25] <yeats> !php | luca
[19:26] <xangua> Beret: saw post about pimping 11.10 on webupd8 and omg!ubuntu! blogs
[19:26] <pavan> hello anyone here who can help my data card problem
[19:26] <mobal> dweez: i want to install nvidia dev driver
[19:26] <mobal> but now i try in recovery mode
[19:26] <dweez>  ah
[19:26] <rhizmoe> so, how can i get the sound control applet to show in unity?
[19:26] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | Edmund
[19:26] <Edmund> anyone know if there is a GRUB specific IRC channel, this place is a bit busy to go into detail
[19:27] <xangua> !alis | Edmund
[19:27] <Jordan_U> Edmund: #grub
[19:27] <morsedl3> ron: if that works, then you can start moving the dotfiles and dotdirs back into place (i.e., back into /home/ron, presumably), starting with the least likely culprits first (e.g., .adobe, .viminfo, etc.) and _not_ moving back ones that will be automatically recreated anyway (e.g., .cache, .thumbnails, etc.)
[19:27] <dweez> mobal, have you tried going to another TTY and then doing the sudo service lightdm stop?
[19:27] <Edmund> Jordan_U: Thanks
[19:27] <Oryon> Hi everyone, i just wanted to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Netbook Edition on my new Asus eeePC 1011, i used USB creator, but when i tried to boot, it said that :could not read image
[19:27] <jamil_1> Hi all, my pc is not booting because it cant find the compatible driver for nvidia card.
[19:28] <mobal> i tried
[19:28] <mobal> i got blank black screen
[19:28] <mobal> and nothing else
[19:28] <ron> morsedl3: well, what do you know.. that worked.
[19:28] <yeats> Oryon: did you md5sum the ISO you downloaded?
[19:28] <dweez> mobal, what TTY?
[19:28] <mobal> but devdriver installer said i still have working x server
[19:28] <mobal> tty1
[19:28] <lwizardl> Hi I just got a popup for 11.10 upgrade and need to know something before I do it. I was reading that Unity was now the only option and you can not go back to the traditional style desktop. Is that true ?
[19:28] <jamil_1> I dont have the internet connection at the console either so I cant install the driver from apt
[19:28] <dweez> Try TTY2
[19:28] <Kearlin> ubottu: I have tried the steps on that page, I still got the problem.
[19:28] <Oryon> yeats: Umm i dont know, who should i do that? i just used USB creator with the standard settings
[19:29] <Jordan_U> Edmund: You're welcome.
[19:29] <yeats> !md5sum | Oryon
[19:29]  * rhizmoe is gonna see if gnome-shell fixes myriad unity problems
[19:29] <dgtl> do we have VDPAU support for all relevant applications in Oneiric Ocelot?
[19:29] <morsedl3> ron: super!  not surprised.  if guest and new users can log in to X ok, then you should be able to as well with dotfiles and dotdirs out of the way.  iow, i would have been pretty surprised if it didn't work.
[19:29] <mobal> tried
[19:29] <mobal> nothing
[19:29] <mobal> black nothing :(
[19:29] <zelozelos> lauratika, you want to be able to have no window with out being full screen right? you can force fullscreen, placement, and a whole other host of things to windows but theres no option to not draw the window decoration for a particular window..at least not that i see
[19:29] <Edmund> I have followed a couple of different restore grub tutorials and it looks like it works with succesful message. then wehn I reboot its still just the grub prompt..
[19:29] <xangua> !nounity | lwizardl
[19:30] <Companion> ikonia, is on a banning spree
[19:30] <yeats> Oryon: a couple of common reasons that happens: 1) corrupted disk image (which md5sum checks) or 2) bad USB drive
[19:30] <Jordan_U> Edmund: Most likely because you followed tutorials for grub legacy.
[19:30] <dr_willis> Hmm. GNome shell seems to be working fine for me on this new install.. but i forget who was having issues earlier...
[19:30] <Oryon> yeats: thanks
[19:30] <Companion> ikonia, <3?
[19:30] <zelozelos> lauratika, however there is a way to not have window decorations while using opera, just uncheck the window decor
[19:31] <lauratika> zelozelos: no actually i want to have no windows in full mode... but inly the broswser
[19:31] <lwizardl> xangua, Yeah I am using Natty and did switch to classic and just wanted to know if that would still work which you just gave me what I needed thanks :)
[19:31] <ron> morsedl3: well, I guess I'll just bring back only the dot dirs of apps I really use.
[19:31] <tdm4> anyone know if INtel 845G chipset is a lost cause in X now? Only VESA works, I think the driver/modules are blacklisted. I saw possible patches/fix maybe for Oneiric
[19:31] <zelozelos> lauratika, that would look kewl but i dont thnk theres a way to do that
[19:31] <ikonia> Companion: what ?
[19:31] <feynn> if i download files with wget, where are they usually saved?
[19:31] <Companion> ikonia, nvm :$
[19:31] <trism> feynn: the current directory
[19:31] <lauratika> i been doing that all other versions of ubuntu
[19:32] <Edmund> yes, and then followed one for grub2. but still the same error. something I'm not sure of though... is when I do it from this ubuntu live cd- how do I make it save to the boot partition, and how do I know the update-grub is affecting mt hdd and not stuff in the live linux on ram?
[19:32] <feynn> Hmm
[19:32] <morsedl3> ron: sounds like a plan.  like i said, it's what i had to do not long ago.  a pain, but actually good to clean out the crud and all.
[19:32] <lwizardl> !classic
[19:32] <mobal> i think dev driver is idiot caus kernel 3.0
[19:32] <ron> morsedl3: just copied .znc and .xbmc for now. I think those are enough for me. don't recognize anything else in the list that looks interesting.
[19:33] <johnfn> all of my desktop icons reliably disappear when i open a folder. any help? :/
[19:33] <lwizardl> I am saving both those !'s for later use when i do the upgrade.
[19:33] <distorx> any vim guru here?
[19:33] <johnfn> distorx, #vim? :p
[19:33] <dr_willis> distorx:  better to ask the actual question.
[19:34] <lauratika> zelozelos: please go to windows decoration and input this on the field that says decoration windows "& !name=opera"
[19:34] <distorx> how do i disable a specific plugin in my vimrc file?
[19:34] <mobal> see ya guys
[19:34] <morsedl3> ron: you'll want .sabnzbd if you're still using that, and you'll probably want .mozilla back in place for firefox/thunderbird, if you use those
[19:34] <morsedl3> ron: .ssh dir is important as well
[19:35] <ron> morsedl3: nah, sabnzbd runs on my nas now, and well, I guess I can bring .mozilla back though browsing on the tv is a pain. will copy the .ssh
[19:35] <keyboardtalk> I accidentally deleted a folder from a FAT32 usb drive. Is there any software for ubuntu that can recover these files?
[19:36] <omeone> I emptied my password. Now I can't use sudo. Is there a solution?
[19:36] <ron> morsedl3: could the .qt be evil?
[19:37] <dr_willis> omeone:  boot live cd, chroot in, set password
[19:38] <zelozelos> lauratika, oh, it helps to have oprera..rofl
[19:38] <gribouille> hi
[19:38] <esteeven> good evening. I have a fresh install of 11.10 but there are no tty consoles. Are they disabled by default?
[19:38] <morsedl3> ron: might be.  i believe 11.10 included a notable jump forward in qt, as well as usage of qt within unity interface.
[19:38] <morsedl3> ron: ... increasing, that is.
[19:38] <TheCowboy> keyboardtalk, search the ubuntu software center for undelete fat
[19:38] <ron> morsedl3: well, I'll try loading up into xmbc now.. see if it works.
[19:38] <Epsi> Hi there, I appear to be stuck with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/820485 . No solution is listed on that page, I was wondering if there was a known workaround on here at all.
[19:38] <ambro718> Is the 11.04->11.10 upgrade actually supposed to work, or was that upgrade dialog that popped up a joke?
[19:38] <billytwowilly> did you guys do something weird to the nobody user in 11.10? samba config from 11.04 isn't working anymore and it seems to be because it maps guest to user nobody
[19:38] <gribouille> can someone explain to me why the kernel keeps loading the nouveau module, while I blacklisted it?
[19:39] <Oryon> yeats: now i checked the md5sum, its totaly fine, and i think the usb is fine as well, cause it recognises it at the boot, sais: syslinux 4.01 debian-20100714 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al Unknown keyworld in configuration file: gfxboot vesamenu.c32:not a COM32R image
[19:39] <omeone> dr_willis: thanks
[19:39] <ambro718> After I said that I *do* want the upgrade, it asked me for the root password, than failed horribly with something along "sudo: the underlying autorization mechanism does not allow this action".
[19:39] <Yoki> Why does not the website lubuntu.net?
[19:39] <Yoki> Why does not the website lubuntu.net?
[19:39] <Yoki> not work
[19:40] <lauratika> zealozealos try with any browser
[19:40] <morsedl3> ron: as long as you don't restore too many dotfiles/dotdirs at once, and check each handful as you go by logging off and then back on, you should be fine and/or easily able to rollback something that cause the black screen again.
[19:40] <lauratika> no worries
[19:40] <th0r> Yoki: it works for me
[19:40] <luca> dear friends can you use apache and php on ubuntu??
[19:40] <kaolc2_> rhizmoe: It turns out that vmware player was auto bridging the connection which made everything fail for reasons unknown to me. Either way, thanks for mentioning the syslogs, I learned something useful today!
[19:40] <zelozelos> lauratika, ok i think what you want is    "  (any) | !(class=opera)  "
[19:40] <fritsch> luca: yes i can
[19:41] <lauratika> zelozelos
[19:41] <th0r> Yoki: it redirects to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[19:41] <lauratika> yes
[19:41] <luca> fritsch: how??
[19:41] <fritsch> luca: just install apache2 and php stuff
[19:41] <Oryon> Hi, i wanted to install ubuntu11.04 netbook edition on my asus eeepc 1011 but when i boot i get an error i checked the md5sum, its totaly fine, and i think the usb is fine as well, cause it recognises it at the boot, sais: syslinux 4.01 debian-20100714 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al Unknown keyworld in configuration file: gfxboot vesamenu.c32:not a COM32R image
[19:41] <Yoki> no redirect! where original site?
[19:41] <ambro718> "Failed to run /tmp/update-manager-KEzKxA/oneiric as user root.
[19:41] <ambro718> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator."
[19:41] <fritsch> luca: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[19:42] <Plowjob> I have this issue after updating ubuntu, where whenever I play something (Youtube, banshee mediaplayer) the playrate is twice as fast as it should be and no sound is being played. Video playback works tho.
[19:42] <Yoki> :(
[19:42] <lordjj> Any alternative for Desktop Zoom without having compiz?
[19:42] <fritsch> luca: should be enough to install apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5
[19:42] <ron> morsedl3: okay, logged in into XBMC successfully. finally can watch a movie and relax. I'll play around with the dotfiles later on. again, thanks for all the help and patience. greatly appreciated. shall I transfer money to your paypal account? ;)
[19:42] <binaryflow> Hello everyone! I am running an Inspiron Duo touch screen enabled netbook. EVERYTHING was working fine in 11.04. After upgrading to 11.10 the mouse touchpad has stopped working. Any thoughts on how to bring it back to life?
[19:42] <gabbysmokes> hi can someone help me with  an issue im encountering regarding intense battery consumption ?
[19:43] <Yoki> No one can help me?
[19:43] <morsedl3> ron: probably best to stay away from restoring these dirs, though: .compiz, .gconf, .gconfd, .gnome*, .icons, .themes, .dbus, .gvfs, .kde
[19:43] <gabbysmokes> my battery is dying intensely fast and im loisn glike 2-3% every minute
[19:43] <keyboardtalk> TheCowboy: Thank you very much!
[19:43] <ambro718> also, last time I tried the distribution upgrade, it failed mid way for some weird reason and left the system unusable
[19:43] <ron> morsedl3: will do (or don't, for that matter).
[19:43] <gabbysmokes> has anyone else encounterted such a problem?
[19:43] <Oryon> Hi, i wanted to install ubuntu11.04 netbook edition on my asus eeepc 1011 but when i boot i get an error i checked the md5sum, its totaly fine, and i think the usb is fine as well, cause it recognises it at the boot, sais: syslinux 4.01 debian-20100714 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al Unknown keyworld in configuration file: gfxboot vesamenu.c32:not a COM32R image
[19:43] <morsedl3> ron: no worries, just glad i could help.  i know what it's like to be stuck without video or networking, and it's always helpful to have someone to bounce ideas off of.
[19:44] <mrdeb> hi
[19:44] <mrdeb> are you all happy with the 1110 ubuntu
[19:44] <ron> morsedl3: *nod* good luck with your writing :)
[19:44] <morsedl3> ron: thanks, sounds good!  be well --doug
[19:45] <ljsoftnet> Oryon i dont think ubuntu 11.04 netbook edition is still supported
[19:45] <gabbysmokes> i have an intense power regression with 10.10, just wanting to see if anyone else had the same problem
[19:45] <pdg12> mrdeb: i'm having a lot of issues with network cards :(
[19:45] <Oryon> ljsoftnet: 10.04 LTS, it should be, but what do you suggest  for a netbook?
[19:45] <melodos> gibson sg or lp jr?
[19:46] <dr_willis> Oryon:  lubuntu is made with low end systems in mind.
[19:46] <zelozelos> lauratika, ok what you will have to do in order to do it that way is add every window to be decorated, and leaving Opear out will work...i think but not sure its supposed to be worked that way good luck
[19:46] <ljsoftnet> Oryon im using xubuntu on this netbook
[19:47] <melodos> ljsoftnet, or you could grab the ubuntu alter iso and install lxde..
[19:47] <zelozelos> lauratika, it needs to have "and, or and NOT" or skip or whatever you know what i mean to exclude this particular window, id or name
[19:47] <crash1hd> where are all the icons stored?
[19:47] <paranoid_ndroid> I was upgrading to the last ubuntu and my net got down. I tried to log out but it restarted. Now it does not boot, what to do?
[19:47] <ljsoftnet> melodos im good with xubuntu but without compositing
[19:47] <zelozelos> crash1hd, usr/share/ somewhere
[19:48] <melodos> ljsoftnet, if you truly need a lightweight system, ubuntu alter iso with openbox or lxde would be great
[19:48] <crash1hd> zelozelos, thanks :)
[19:48] <tetsuo--> hello, the quota for one user was full, but even after deleing his account and remaking it quota tool says his quota is full
[19:48] <tetsuo--> how can fix this?
[19:48] <sudipta> is it safe to install gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.10???
[19:48] <Reaper> is there a short cut key to switch active desktops on 11.10?
[19:49] <dr_willis> sudipta:  its working here.
[19:49] <ljsoftnet> melodos ok
[19:49] <neeteex> Hello @ll, I migrated from 11.04 to 11.10 and I just can't start mysql service anymore. uninstalled, re-installed, I still get "start: Job failed to start"
[19:49] <crash1hd> Reaper, windows key s
[19:50] <Jordan_U> sudipta: Yes.
[19:50] <sudipta> dr_willis:i have got some problems....dont know whether it is due to shell or not
[19:50] <neeteex> Anyone knows what I can do to start mysql on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:50] <Reaper> cool thank you !
[19:50] <ambro718> whenever I want to start something privileged from a GUI (such as Synaptic), after I type my password, I get "The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.".
[19:50] <ambro718> I think this may have something to do with me installing Ubuntu by hand with debootstrap instead of the installer, and I didn't configure something that would've been done by the installed. How do I configure sudo to allow this?
[19:50] <[_miT_]> neeteex: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start?
[19:50] <sudipta> dr_willis:after installing it nautilus starts to crash
[19:50] <[_miT_]> neeteex: er, it might be mysql-server
[19:51] <gabbysmokes> does anyone else encounter intense power consumption on their laptops using ubuntu 10.10?
[19:51] <neeteex> [_miT_], I did sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[19:51] <leftist> if i upgrade from  11.04 to what is current, can i keep this classic interface? or am i forced to conform to the new default interface?
[19:51] <[_miT_]> neeteex: then it should be running, did it return with an error?
[19:51] <Phr3d13> ccsm keeps crashing with segmentation faults - http://pastie.org/2695736
[19:51] <ocmsRzr> hi all, I have two questions: How do I specify a window manager different from unity2d in 11.10. and is it possible to create an installation usb without root access if the drive is already bootable?
[19:51] <naftilos76> hi everyone, has anybody tried 11.10 yet?
[19:51] <neeteex> I got start: Job failed to start
[19:51] <Oryon> If i want to use an USB stick for booting, what typ should i chose what i format it? FAT, or EXT?
[19:51] <tetsuo--> gabbysmokes: thre are several powerconsumption regressions in the kernel
[19:51] <luca> i've installed the two packages
[19:51] <dr_willis> sudipta:  the webupd8 blog site has a list of tweaks. I seem to recall they mentioning some nautilus crash bug
[19:51] <[_miT_]> neeteex: check /var/log/mysql.err
[19:51] <zelozelos> leftist, as always you can have which ever you want
[19:51] <luca> and now?
[19:52] <gabbysmokes> tetsuo: is there any fix arounds?
[19:52] <pdg12> does anyone have any idea where i should start troubleshooting network issues?
[19:52] <leftist> zelozelos is there an option in prefs somewhere?
[19:52] <[_miT_]> neeteex: or /var/log/mysql.log
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[19:52] <zastaph> how do I get my 4 workspaces back from 11.04, now im using 11.10 with Unity
[19:52] <dr_willis> sudipta:  webupd8   is the site
[19:52] <[_miT_]> pdg12: ping? lol
[19:52] <leftist> heck man i really prefer hoary :D
[19:52] <Oryon> If i want to use an USB stick for booting, what typ should i chose what i format it? FAT, or EXT?
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[19:52] <leftist> i just cant get wireless to bind :D
[19:52] <coppro> Does anyone know what volume and power tray applets are in the oneric repositories? The GNOME ones were removed. I need a real tray applet; not a Plasma/Unity widget.
[19:52] <dr_willis> Oryon:  what tool are you using to make the usb bootable?
[19:53] <zelozelos> leftist, when login in select ubuntu classic, just keep in mind gnome is no longer supported from what i gather
[19:53] <[_miT_]> Oryon: format to FAT and either use unetbooin to install a distro on it or use the USBBoot program built into Ubuntu
[19:53] <Oryon> dr_willis: standard usb creator,
[19:53] <tetsuo--> gabbysmokes: http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=16496
[19:53] <s3r3n1t7> I'm trying to get up a site to site VPN connection with openvpn and the connection itself is coming up from what I can see in the log files. However, from the 2 lans behind the 2 vms making the connections, there's no way to access the other subnet. From what I can see, there's no return path and google tells me I should add an iroute to the client config directory file. Is there an easy way to check if that file is being read by the other vm?
[19:53] <leftist> thanks
[19:53] <pdg12> [_miT_]: no wired or wireless connection
[19:53] <dr_willis> Oryon:  it can format it. normally its fat16 or 32
[19:53] <neeteex> [_miT_], those files are empty
[19:53] <[_miT_]> pdg12: did you check Additional Drivers?
[19:53] <leftist> gnome is not supported?
[19:53] <leftist> forsooth!
[19:53] <[_miT_]> neeteex: reinstall the mysql packages, something went wrong
[19:53] <dr_willis> I think the phrase 'gnome is not supported' was incorrect... :)
[19:54] <zelozelos> leftist, as in gnome is no longer being updated or developed i think
[19:54] <dr_willis> unity is running on top of gnome3
[19:54] <dr_willis> gnome-2 is being phased out..
[19:54] <gabbysmokes> tetsuo: thank you very much!
[19:54] <zelozelos> leftist, dr_willis has it right
[19:54] <leftist> wow so gnome lost the war then
[19:54] <rhizmoe> so, installing either gnome-shell or gnome-tweak-tool solved my missing cog/sound/dash icon problems
[19:54] <kuchiku> who know how to use gimp ? i select a red foreground color but when drawing with pen it turn out grey
[19:54] <jtomasrl> how can i plat .m4a files on ubuntu?
[19:54] <kuchiku> what's the problem
[19:54] <whitman> Where's the font size settings in Oneiric?
[19:54] <rhizmoe> kuchiku: wrong channel
[19:55] <Edisto> damn this 11.10 is slowing up like crazy
[19:55] <rhizmoe> it's a bit laggy
[19:55] <[_miT_]> Edisto: really? it noticed it was WAY faster
[19:55] <dr_willis> kuchiku:  sounds like some sort of 'selection mask' to me. theres some good video tutorials out for gimp.
[19:55] <[_miT_]> 11.04 was slower for me
[19:55] <[_miT_]> 11.10 is hauling ass now
[19:55] <pdg12> [_miT_]: it's only showing nvidia graphics drivers... and the recomended one is already active
[19:56] <[_miT_]> pdg12: you may want to check the network troubleshooting wiki
[19:56] <ocmsRzr> does anyone know how to make an installation usb without root access?
[19:56] <dr_willis> Hmm. its showing my nvidia driver/reccomended is in use also.. but.. like i never told it to do that. :)
[19:56] <trans> hello everyone
[19:56] <[_miT_]> pdg12: they have steps such as 'lshw' and 'lsusb' to identify your hardware
[19:56] <pdg12> okate
[19:56] <trans> can anybody tell me how to connect reliance data card to 11.10
[19:56] <[_miT_]> pdg12: sorry bud, im a noob :(
[19:56] <softcoder> hello
[19:56] <werever> hi! I have a problem after upgrade from 11.04 top 11.10, starting commands say "no suitable module for running kernel", any reccomendation to fix it??? thanks folks!!!
[19:56] <pdg12> okay... i'll hunt around for a wiki of sorts
[19:56] <m6mmix> Hello, is raid disabled on all LTS versions or only for desktop edition?
[19:56] <softcoder> upgrade to 11.10
[19:57] <softcoder> now when i compile my open source progrject i get:
[19:57] <softcoder> Linking CXX executable ../../../mk/linux/megaglest
[19:57] <softcoder> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lrtmp
[19:57] <softcoder> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[19:57] <meco> I just installed Spotify.exe but I can't find the file. What's the command for that?
[19:57] <softcoder> anhy idea what this is?
[19:57] <softcoder> using cmake then make
[19:57] <maedox> Any ideas how I can change the font size in Unity? In 11.04 it was under Appearance, but it is nowhere to be found!?
[19:57] <[_miT_]> meco: i run a really horrible find cmd (this is not correct, but it works for me) cd to /
[19:58] <rhizmoe> mail app in system applet seems to still be looking for evolution
[19:58] <[_miT_]> meco: sudo find . -name 'spotify.exe'
[19:58] <meco> ok :-)
[19:58] <sudipta> dr_willis:got it...thanks a lot
[19:58] <[_miT_]> meco: but in all honesty, it should be in ~/Downloads
[19:58] <whitman> maedox, I just asked the same question, looks like you have to install a seperate app to change it (http://www.installubuntulinux.com/2011/09/howto-change-system-font-sizes-in.html) which imo is crazy
[19:59] <luca> dear friends, how can u write in php on ubuntu 11.10??
[19:59] <luca> which programs do you use? Eclipse?
[19:59] <tdm4> vim :)
[19:59] <werever> hi! I have a problem after upgrade from 11.04 top 11.10, starting commands say "no suitable module for running kernel", and starting get freezed,  any reccomendation to fix it??? thanks folks!!!
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> luca: leafpad
[19:59] <neeteex> [_miT_], I did uninstall and re-install mysql, to no avail, see http://pastebin.archlinux.fr/434311
[19:59] <maedox> whitman: Thank you! That is indeed stupid beyond words. What happened to Ubuntu? It turned into sh** in no time at all!
[20:00] <luca> leafpad? what is it?' something like eclipse?
[20:00] <softcoder> anyone?
[20:00] <softcoder> Linking CXX executable ../../../mk/linux/megaglest
[20:00] <softcoder> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lrtmp
[20:00] <softcoder> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[20:00] <rhizmoe> is there supposed to be a new desktop switcher?
[20:00] <C-S-B> I keep on getting an error on boot that it failed to check my home partition (btfs)
[20:00] <[_miT_]> neeteex: i dont know how to debug mysql
[20:00] <ubiMike> Good evening :)
[20:00] <[_miT_]> neeteex: i would check the logs tho
[20:00] <rhizmoe> i should say: workplace switcher
[20:00] <[_miT_]> neeteex: /var/log/dmesg /var/log/syslog
[20:00] <[_miT_]> neeteex: check the mysql.err and mysql.log again
[20:00]  * mstevens is hating the fecking vanishing scrollbars
[20:01] <werever> just having a problem after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, starting commands say "no suitable module for running kernel", and starting goes freezed,  any reccomendation to fix it??? thanks folks!!!
[20:01] <Kingsy> ok, I am trying to upgrade. but it says it I need more space on my /boot parition.. I think I made the mistake of only allocating 100MB to my boot parition.. is there an easy way to free up space? or allocate more without formatting?
[20:01] <sianhulo> people, i want to boot with an usb by grub because my BIOS doesn't support it, how do i do it?(i already have a bootable usb)
[20:01] <ubiMike> mstevens, you will get used to those. I kinda like them for my web-design hours. Don't move the boxes around..
[20:01] <Guest17506> updates screwed up, how can i reinstall all packages part of ubuntu-desktop
[20:02] <[_miT_]> Guest17506: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop (Maybe)
[20:02] <mstevens> ubiMike: you sort of have to grab randomly they they don't work right
[20:02] <dysoco> Is there any Hamachi like software easy to use for a friend who is new to Linux ? That also works in Windows
[20:02] <yeats> werever: have you rebooted since upgrading?
[20:02] <[_miT_]> Guest17506: i dont know what im talking about tho,  would wait for someone to answer
[20:02] <[_miT_]> dysoco: i have hmaachi running on linux :/
[20:02] <werever> yeats yes
[20:02] <zebulon> hey, i just repartioned my /dev/sda2 to increase the space from 20, to 100gigs, but ubuntu no longer boots
[20:02] <yeats> werever: just ruling out the obvious ;-)
[20:02] <Guest17506> [_miT_] thx i'll try in the meantime :)
[20:02] <zebulon> ...what was the grub command to fix that again?
[20:03] <dysoco> _miT_: Do I install it by apt-get ?
[20:03] <werever> yeats: ok
[20:03] <[_miT_]> dysoco: http://timashley.me/node/276
[20:03] <[_miT_]> dysoco: scroll down to hamachi
[20:03] <yeats> Guest17506: please define "updates screwed up"... can you pastebin the errors you're getting?
[20:03] <ubiMike> Can anyone help me with some short explanation on how to download a driver for my integrated Intel GMA 965 ? I have a git repository link but I have no idea how to download my driver from it.
[20:03] <TRider> I try to chroot on a live cd ubuntu. I try to install dchroot debootstrap and get full of errors. Then I try apt-get update and get a bunch of errors as well. What can I do ?
[20:03] <crash1hd> where did they move ~/.local/share/applications to in 11.10?
[20:03] <[_miT_]> dysoco: i have it installed on all my linux servers, laptop and desktops
[20:04] <[_miT_]> dysoco: im also using this free VPN from japan, im probably going to put it into my next video tutorial
[20:04] <Wamphyri> has anyone managed to install uguntu 11.10 on a 890FXA-GD70?
[20:04] <Wamphyri> ubuntu*
[20:04] <TRider> I try to chroot on a live cd ubuntu. I try to install dchroot debootstrap and get full of errors. Then I try apt-get update and get a bunch of errors as well. What can I do ?
[20:04] <dysoco> ok, thank you
[20:05] <Companion> Any one watched jupiter last night?
[20:05] <xangua> !anyone | Wamphyri
[20:05] <Companion> wrong chan >.>
[20:05] <dysoco> ages I don't enter here, now I use Arch :P
[20:05] <ubiMike> !details
[20:05] <_trine> 2 computers upgraded to 11.10 2 computers not now working
[20:05] <ubiMike> I have this link for a git repository - git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel
[20:05] <Guest17506> yeats, i got hickups during installation, couldn log in. turned out unity wasn't installed. now after installing ubuntu-desktop with aptitude i can log in but miss the all the menues in the top menu bar (logout, clock, notification center etc. and the menues to launch applications) so i'd like to start over installing all the desktop packages.
[20:05] <rhizmoe> ugh, no categories in software center? why is there so much flattening of item organization in 11.10?
[20:05] <ubiMike> I'm supposed to download my driver from there but I am not aware how to do that.
[20:05] <yeats> !details | _trine
[20:06] <Wamphyri> uhmm ok issue 890FXA-GD70 ubuntu 11.10  installs fine but won't boot afterwards
[20:06] <organixpear> So what's the consensus on 11.10? I'm downloading it right now...
[20:06] <[_miT_]> organixpear: love it
[20:06] <rhizmoe> my opinion is to wait a week or two if you can
[20:06] <Guest17506> yeats, colord was the last package i remember that caused trouble during upgrade
[20:06] <mstevens> organixpear: I still hate unity
[20:06] <[_miT_]> organixpear: for some reason, it runs faster than 11.04 did on my desktop
[20:06] <[_miT_]> mstevens: so did i, until i learned the keyboard shortcuts
[20:06] <_trine> yeats on the first computer it lets me boot into root and any new user i have added but not my own user
[20:06] <yeats> Guest17506: you could *try* 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop', but since ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, that may not work
[20:07] <[_miT_]> mstevens: now i catch myself doing the shortcuts on my windows servers :/
[20:07] <mstevens> [_miT_]: it won't let me run more than 1 xtetrm
[20:07] <nestea> my sound was working fine in 11.04 but since I upgraded to 11.10 there is no sound
[20:07] <organixpear> I'm dl'ng the server edition. I'm not a fan of unity either...so in theory server won't come witha desktop and I can install gnome3 instead?
[20:07] <yeats> _trine: what happens when you try?
[20:07] <nestea> any ideas?
[20:07] <[_miT_]> mstevens: i dont run xterm
[20:07] <_trine> yeats, on the second computer it trys to boot but stops with the message waiting for network configuration
[20:07] <Guest17506> yeats, did a reinstall through synaptic. did only touch one packages. so i search for a command like. reinstall all packages part of the metapackage ubuntu-desktop i guess :)
[20:07] <ikonia> organixpear: you can do that on the desktop
[20:07] <xangua> organixpear: unity runs on top of gnome
[20:07] <yeats> _trine: let's do one at a time ;-)
[20:08] <ikonia> organixpear: if you're using a deskop....download the desktop version
[20:08] <organixpear> ok
[20:08] <xangua> !nounity
[20:08] <xangua> so no sence in what you say, if you only want linux shell organixpear
[20:08] <_trine> yeats, on the first computer when i try to log in it looks as though it is going to work then just comes back asking me to log in again
[20:08] <TRider> I try to chroot on a live cd ubuntu. I try to install dchroot debootstrap and get full of errors. Then I try apt-get update and get a bunch of errors as well. What can I do ?
[20:08] <selite> After insatalling Ubuntu on my PC I could automatically connect to the internet with just plugging the ethernet cable. However, now I can't. Can anyone please help?
[20:09] <ubiMike> Have you tried turning it off and on again ?
[20:09] <yeats> Guest17506: okay... well try this:  create a new user and try to log in as the new user - if it works, you know it's something in your old config that's keeping unity, etc. from working
[20:09]  * ubiMike lol'd.
[20:09] <selite> ubiMike: Yeah I tried
[20:09] <nestea> my sound was working fine in 11.04 but since I upgraded to 11.10 there is no sound and I can't get it going again.
[20:09] <Wamphyri> i install ubuntu 11.10 fine a MSI 890FXA-GD70 w/rator 72g drive, but after successfully installing it fails to boot and stalls out on a black screen. num lock key is non responsive, any suggestions?
[20:09] <Guest17506> yeats, good i dear. respect btw how you handle all those requests here!
[20:09] <selite> After insatalling Ubuntu on my PC I could automatically connect to the internet with just plugging the ethernet cable. However, now I can't. Can anyone please help?
[20:09] <Griz64> Is there a 'desktop sharing' app on the livecd that can be started so i can log on with a n00b to assist him with a grub issue?
[20:10] <neurochrome> Sooooooo, where's Mozilla's 'prism' in the latest version of 'buntu?
[20:10] <ubiMike> Wamphyri, press enter ?
[20:10] <spikebike> I've been working on getting rid of glboal menu as mentioned at: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[20:10] <yeats> _trine: but you said you're able to create a new user and log in and it works?
[20:10] <crash1hd> Ok does anyone know where ubuntu 11.10 stores the icons on the left bar? in 11.04 unity it was ~/.user/share/applications but that folder does not exsist?
[20:10] <LemonAid> selite: did you check to see if you have the same configuration for your eth0 as before ?
[20:10] <_trine> yeats yes
[20:10] <yeats> Guest17506: thanks ;-)
[20:10] <selite> LemonAid: No
[20:10] <spikebike> From what I can tell ubuntu hacked gnome-terminal to ignore the show menubar by default setting
[20:10] <selite> LemonAid: How do I do that?
[20:10] <Wamphyri> ubiMike, if num lock key is non response what will enter do? yes i get the kernal selection page but both the regular kernel and rescue kernal won't boot
[20:10] <Guest17506> yeats, a little tough to log out without a menu. i'll go for a reboot. thanks god i have a second machine at hand for this chat.
[20:11] <werever> having problems with "flashplugin" packakes during upgrade process, any of heared about problems with this packakes during upgrade to 11.10?
[20:11] <tetsuo--> one of my users has reached his quota limit, however his home folder only contains 2mb of data (the limit is 50GB) how can i make the quota function report the correct amount of data used??
[20:11] <spikebike> Unity isn't half bad once you disable global menu and disable click to focus
[20:11] <LemonAid> selite: type "ifconfig" at the terminal, without the quotes. See if you have the same ip address/netmask/gateway
[20:11] <ubiMike> Wamphyri,  no idea, dude. I just read somewhere today about black screens and "Just press enter.." advice under it.
[20:11] <_trine> yeats, I am using the first computer now but in a new user
[20:11] <yeats> _trine: try this: in a terminal, do 'sudo mv /home/<yourusername> /home/<yourusername>.orig', then try to log in as yourself
[20:11] <_trine> yeats, so I have most of my own stuff missing
[20:11] <Wamphyri> ubiMike, ahh ok sorry then. thought you where firing off a smart a$$ comment :p
[20:11] <werever> having problems with "flashplugin" packakes during upgrade process, any of heared about problems with this packakes during upgrade to 11.10?
[20:12] <Matt_> Can someone help my install Ubuntu on my machine? I've installed it on two other machines with no problem, but am having a whole bunch of problems on my new laptop. I am running an AMD Radeon HD 6620G graphics card!
[20:12] <yeats> _trine: then you can copy over the files/settings you need one at a time
[20:12] <Marc_> bonsoir
[20:12] <Marc_> je vais avoir besoins de vvous
[20:13]  * ubiMike -.-
[20:13] <Kingsy> can someone give me some help on what I can delete in my /boot partition and what I cant?
[20:13] <Guest17506> yeats, what irc programm are you using to keep track?
[20:13] <rhizmoe> i'm watching jorge castro's unity howto and i can't help but notice that i don't have the default Places in my dash
[20:13] <guntbert> !fr | proffima
[20:13] <proffima> ok guntbert
[20:13] <werever> having problems with "flashplugin" packakes during upgrade process, any of heared about problems with this packakes during upgrade to 11.10?
[20:13] <proffima> i will need some help with the update
[20:13] <yeats> Guest17506: I use irssi and am ignoring joins/parts/quits
[20:13] <ubiMike> werever,
[20:14] <proffima> since i have installed it i don't have wifi
[20:14] <ubiMike> I had the same problem.
[20:14] <Guest17506> yeats, btw found advice how to reinstall a metapackage's dependencies https://gourgi.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/re-install-ubuntu-desktop-metapackage-and-reinstall-its-dependencies/
[20:14] <ubiMike> Just ignore it.
[20:14] <ubiMike> :)
[20:14] <yeats> Guest17506: great!
[20:14] <TRider> I try to chroot on a live cd ubuntu. I try to install dchroot debootstrap and get full of errors. Then I try apt-get update and get a bunch of errors as well. What can I do ?
[20:14] <[_miT_]> proffima: i had to reboot for my wifi to work again
[20:14] <werever> ubimake: but after reboot I have problems to start the GUI, maybe my problem is not related with flashplugni packages then
[20:15] <werever> ubimike: but after reboot I have problems to start the GUI, maybe my problem is not related with flashplugni packages then
[20:15] <proffima> [_miT_], i had try that
[20:15] <proffima> [_miT_],  but it doesn't work
[20:15] <tetsuo--> could a quota full problem be caused by journal entries made by ext4 ?
[20:15] <[_miT_]> proffima: during the upgrade it killed my wifi, but it came back when i restarted
[20:15]  * [_miT_] shrugs
[20:15] <proffima> is there any known problem with the RT300 of ratlink ?
[20:15] <Kingsy> can someone give me some help on what I can delete in my /boot partition and what I cant?
[20:15] <[_miT_]> proffima: did you check if its under Additional Drivers?
[20:15] <ubiMike> werever  hardware is pretty tricky.
[20:16] <selite_> After insatalling Ubuntu on my PC I could automatically connect to the internet with just plugging the ethernet cable. However, now I can't. Can anyone please help?
[20:16] <proffima> i checked that [_miT_]  there is additionnal drivers but they are'nt used
[20:16] <[_miT_]> selite_: type ifconfig from terminal and check for eth
[20:16] <proffima> i just don't know whye
[20:16] <proffima> *-e
[20:16] <[_miT_]> proffima: have you tried to install them?
[20:16] <TRider> me neither
[20:16] <proffima> yep
[20:16] <Wamphyri> has anyone seen any problems with amd x6 cpu's? or an abunance or memory?
[20:17] <znow> how can I shutdown a daemon?
[20:17] <selite_> [_miT_]: Yeah I typed.
[20:17] <[_miT_]> znow: /etc/init.d/appname
[20:17] <proffima> [_miT_], but it sait that they are installed but not used
[20:17] <ejv> ok you typed, what did it say...
[20:17] <[_miT_]> znow: er, add stop to the end of that
[20:17] <genii-around> Kingsy: You probably shouldn't be manually deleting anything in there. Remove obsolete kernels through the package manager and it will automatically clean that directory out
[20:17] <[_miT_]> proffima: weird.
[20:17] <proffima> [_miT_], yep
[20:17] <znow> [_miT_]: thanks
[20:17] <TRider> I try to chroot on a live cd ubuntu. I try to install dchroot debootstrap and get full of errors. Then I try apt-get update and get a bunch of errors as well. What can I do ?
[20:17] <Kingsy> genii-around: you can do that through the package manager? how?
[20:18] <selite_> [_miT_]: It said a lot of things it's kinda long.
[20:18] <[_miT_]> znow: so if i wanted to stop bind9 DNS server daemon, i would type sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 stop
[20:18] <znow> [_miT_]: if I want to stop by a pid?
[20:18] <nathanel> hello:
[20:18] <[_miT_]> znow: you can also start it with the same cmd, just replace stop with start
[20:18] <[_miT_]> znow: i only know how to kill by pid, lol
[20:18] <[_miT_]> selite_: thats what she said?
[20:18] <nathanel> can anyone post their output for cat /etc/system-release
[20:18] <znow> oh my bad, sorry ;)
[20:18] <znow> sec
[20:18] <[_miT_]> selite_: do you see eth anywhere?
[20:18] <ejv> selite_: use a pastebin service and give us the information
[20:19] <[_miT_]> +1 ejv
[20:19] <selite_> [_miT_]: Yeah I see eth0.
[20:19] <Beret> does anyone know what to remove from your home directory to completely nuke all unity/gnome/desktop settings?
[20:19] <[_miT_]> forgot about pastebin
[20:19] <[_miT_]> selite_: is the cable plugged in?
[20:19] <nathanel> can anyone post their output for 'cat /etc/system-release'?
[20:19] <selite_> [_miT_]: Yeah I typed.
[20:19] <znow> [_miT_]: no cmd found
[20:19] <Achillion> Hey all. I have a problem with a friend's laptop. He was doing an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 and it crashed during the process. After a reboot the computer wouldn't boot into gnome but he could access a terminal. Since we were talking over the phone, at first I thought it was during some package updates and told him to do a "check" and then finish the updates. Now I'm here (have it in front of me), the computer wont boot into gnome at startup but i
[20:19] <Achillion> f I "startx" it starts normally (though, no hardware graphics).
[20:19] <[_miT_]> selite_: type: sudo dhclient eth0
[20:19] <crash1hd> reisio, you around?
[20:19] <Achillion> (sorry for the spam)
[20:19] <selite_> [_miT_]: Yeah the ethernet cable is plugged in when I go connect it tries to connect and stops.
[20:19] <[_miT_]> znow: what are you running?
[20:19] <anditosan> I need help connecting to a server thorugh nautilus
[20:19] <spikebike> Hrm, anyone know how to keep unity from overriding gnome-terminal --hide-menubar?
[20:19] <dikidera> Hi all
[20:19] <dikidera> i would like to know
[20:19] <znow> [_miT_]: a thin webserver
[20:19] <[_miT_]> selite_: type: sudo dhclient eth0
[20:20] <dikidera> what possible options are there for the gcc compiler's -march switch?
[20:20] <meerkats> what way do you recommend to update to 11.10? update manager or creating a live cd?
[20:20] <genii-around> Kingsy: If you see in boot for instance an old kernel version with a file like: vmlinuz-2.6.22-2-generic   then remove the package linux-image-2.6.22-2-generic, possibly also linux-headers-2.6.22-2-generic
[20:20] <nathanel> can anyone post their output for 'cat /etc/system-release'?
[20:20] <douggle> is it possible to enable tapzones for a synaptics touchpad?
[20:20] <werever> how can I force my pc to login into ubuntu recovery mode if grub is not showed at start?
[20:20] <ejv> when are people going to figure out that quality of support is a function of the quality of information given to us... *sigh*
[20:20] <crash1hd> meerkats, update manager
[20:20] <selite_> [_miT_]: Yeah I typed
[20:20] <guntbert> werever: press <shift> during boot
[20:20] <selite_> [_miT_]: It just waits.
[20:20] <ejv> dikidera: use native
[20:21] <[_miT_]> selite_: then its not grabbing an ip address from your network. i would check your dhcp server (i.e. router)
[20:21] <raggerzz> does anyone know how to revert to the old natty graphic settings/properties? i have an old compaq with an older graphics card
[20:21] <nathanel> can anyone post their output for 'cat /etc/system-release'?
[20:21] <werever> I tried but didnt work I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10
[20:21] <Wamphyri> i install ubuntu 11.10 fine a MSI 890FXA-GD70 w/rator 72g drive, but after successfully installing it fails to boot and stalls out on a black screen. num lock key is non responsive, any suggestions? and the only way i could install is if i disabled acpi
[20:21] <werever> guntbert: I tried but didnt work I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10
[20:21] <meerkats> crash1hd, how many hours could it take? Last time i did so it was like 7 hours...
[20:21] <selite_> [_miT_]: What should I check?
[20:21] <LemonAid> selite_ : are you under a router ?
[20:21] <Naugh> werever use a live cd...
[20:21] <selite_> LemonAid: Yes
[20:21] <fwest> lightdm won't let me ldap users login
[20:21] <crash1hd> meerkats, I did it last night and it took about 5hrs or so
[20:21] <ejv> Wamphyri: toggle ide/raid/ahci mode? check boot priority? etc.
[20:22] <mang0> Hm, I've just been prompted to update to 11.10...do I click upgrade or not!
[20:22] <crash1hd> meerkats, servers are probably being slammed by people
[20:22] <[_miT_]> mang0: only if you want to :)
[20:22] <LemonAid> selite_: private
[20:22] <kaje> I'm trying to allow a user to execute "sudo blkid" without a password. I've added this line to the sudoers file: joe ALL= NOPASSWD: /sbin/blkid      But, it still is prompting me for a password. Anyone see my mistake?
[20:22] <werever> Naugh: ok..I trying too but live USB for 11.10 isnt working as 11.04 should it
[20:22] <mang0> and is there a way to "downgrade" back to 11.04 if I don't like 11.10?
[20:22] <[_miT_]> kaje: first mistake is sudo without a password ;)
[20:22] <meerkats> crash1hd, Wamphyri , I wouldnt like to experience the problems werever and Wamphyri are having
[20:22] <Wamphyri> ejv, all  have is enabled disabled boot priority is cd/dvd, raptor, remaining hd's
[20:22] <kaje> I know the risks… it is just for the blkid command
[20:22] <guntbert> werever: I'll have to try, right now I have no bootable 10.10 machine - be sure to press <shift> right after the bios message from your system
[20:22] <mang0> [_miT_]: Yeah but I don't know if I want to or not! :P
[20:23] <fritsch> mang0: nope :-)
[20:23] <[_miT_]> mang0: i did, its pretty nice
[20:23] <raggerzz> does anyone know how to revert to the old natty graphic settings/properties? i have an old compaq with an older graphics card...
[20:23] <nathanel> can anyone post their output for 'cat /etc/system-release'?
[20:23] <[_miT_]> mang0: although it seems a lot of ppl are having issues :/
[20:23] <mang0> fritsch: And why is that?
[20:23] <crash1hd> meerkats, well I personally started by downloading the iso and making a usb stick
[20:23] <Wamphyri> meerkats, its almost amusing i could install debian 1.3 on a p200 with my eyes closed :p
[20:23] <[_miT_]> mang0: IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT
[20:23] <[_miT_]> hahaha
[20:23] <werever> guntbert: kk..I will try one more time thanks
[20:23] <tdm4> raggerzz: what chipset is the card?
[20:23] <mang0> [_miT_]: Very true!
[20:23] <mang0> [_miT_]: Perhaps I'll wait :P
[20:23] <crash1hd> meerkats, then I mounted it to see if I would have any issue and then went back (after doing a backup of what I already had) and did the update-manager
[20:24] <raggerzz> its a AMD Sempron. I just need to revert the settings to 11.04
[20:24] <crash1hd> meerkats, if you have the extra drive do a full backup of root (always recommended)
[20:24] <crash1hd> with any update
[20:24] <nestea> sigh
[20:24] <Achillion> Gnome requires "startx" on startup. How do I set it to start automatically?
[20:25] <fritsch> mang0: downgrading is much more complex than upgrading
[20:25] <tdm4> raggerzz: no I mean the graphics card
[20:25] <meerkats> crash1hd,  extra drive? I dont have any
[20:25] <tlf_vulmort> ola
[20:25] <mang0> fritsch: I guessed that, and as [_miT_] said, people are having lots of issues. I guess I'll just wait :P
[20:25] <pjs__> hi, can anyone tell me how to set up unity so that I can open more than one terminal at a time?
[20:25] <raggerzz> oh yeah sorry...im not sure nor do i know how to check
[20:25] <dnils> "ask me later" doesn't work.
[20:26] <xangua> pjs__: control+alt+T to open terminal ;)
[20:26] <dnils> when upgrading
[20:26] <fritsch> mang0: jep - 11.10 is no fun at all at the moment
[20:26] <spikebike> pjs__: or middle click on termina
[20:26] <fritsch> mang0: there were some good fixes which came into proposed, they made life easier
[20:26] <crash1hd> meerkats, ahh well then its always a risk without backup
[20:26] <Naugh> how to you set the refresh rate in ubuntu 11.10? there is no such thing in "System Settings->Displays"
[20:26] <pjs__> middle-click does the job, cheers
[20:26] <crash1hd> meerkats, but personally I didnt have any issues
[20:26] <mang0> fritsch: Oic
[20:27] <crash1hd> meerkats, or should I say minor issues
[20:27] <dnils> hey guys, there might be an issue in the upgrade prompt. "Ask Me Later" doesn't work, it simply doesn't react.
[20:27] <raggerzz> any idea?
[20:27] <meerkats> i see
[20:27] <crash1hd> meerkats, I had to plug in my lcd monitor to get it to boot as my old crt couldnt hack it
[20:27]  * yeats is not having any problems with 11.10 on 2 separate computers
[20:28] <luca> how can you write in php on ubuntu 11.10??
[20:28] <werever> i think i have kernel problems, maybe related with virtual box, I am not sure, any toughts? I upgraded from 11.01 to 11.10
[20:28] <yeats> Naugh: search "display" in the unity menu
[20:29] <[_miT_]> luca: like what editor to use?
[20:29] <luca> yes for instance
[20:29] <luca> editor and compiler
[20:29] <zastaph> with Unity in 11.10 if I move a window to my second monitor, the menu that is now glued to the top of the screen is lost.. it only displays when the window is on monitor one
[20:29] <[_miT_]> luca: im partial to this one -> http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html
[20:29] <tdm4> raggerzz: lspci
[20:29] <Stereocaulon> Just switched to oneiric. I have difficulty liking it. Ubuntu keeps obsessing over low disk space on two of my partitions, even if I tick "Don't show any more warnings for this files system" This worked perfectly in Natty
[20:29] <[_miT_]> luca: i dont know if it compiles, but ive never heard of someone compiling php ;/
[20:29] <luca> i want the easiest
[20:30] <spikebike> zastaph: global menu is so broken I recommend removing it: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[20:30] <werever> any ideas how to fix kernel on 11.10? I have access to tty console only
[20:30] <luca> which one do you use?
[20:30] <tdm4> raggerzz: lspci | grep VGA
[20:30] <yeats> luca: try asking in ##php - this channel is for Ubuntu support
[20:30] <Naugh> yeats: I know where it`s but i don<t see the option...
[20:30] <polter> hey peeps, how do I change fonts in Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:30] <[_miT_]> polter: apperance
[20:31] <polter> [_miT_], I have it open, but I seem to be stupid or something, because I can't see it
[20:31] <fwest> great, lightdm and gdm can no longer let ldap users auth
[20:31] <raggerzz> this is what i got; 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[20:31] <[_miT_]> polter: the last tab, forget its name
[20:31] <[_miT_]> polter: im not on my buntu box at the mo
[20:31] <werever> any ideas how to fix kernel on 11.10? I have access to tty console only
[20:32] <polter> [_miT_], ubuntu 11.10 has no tabs in appearance
[20:32] <Stereocaulon> fwest, use xdm for that, or even KDM
[20:32] <fritsch> werever: what is wrong with your kernel?
[20:32] <vlt> werever: Then the kernel seems to run fine ;-)
[20:32] <fwest> Stereocaulon, really? you have the same problem too?
[20:32] <[_miT_]> polter: i opened it yesterday and it had the tabs at the top
[20:32] <fritsch> vlt: hehehe, ack
[20:32] <dnils> [0p4n SSH 0day for s4l3]
[20:32] <polter> nope it's not in here
[20:33] <Beret> Can someone tell me what to remove from my home directory to completely nuke all unity/gnome/desktop settings? An upgrade to Oneiric has left me with a non-functional desktop that even unity --reset doesn't fix.
[20:33] <xangua> polter: [_miT_] check omgubuntu and webupd8 blogs to pimp oneiric ;)
[20:33] <Stereocaulon> fwest, no, but in my corporate environment using LTSP we use xdm which will query our LDAP servers
[20:33] <yeats> !l33t | dnils
[20:33] <tdm4> raggerzz: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video-sis
[20:33] <fwest> Stereocaulon, gdm has worked for years with ldap
[20:33] <dnils> yeats: dude! just chillax.
[20:33] <[_miT_]> xangua: was just about to suggest that :)
[20:33] <polter> xangua, thanks, but I don't really consider changning fonts "pimping"
[20:34] <sianhulo>  people, i want to boot with an usb by grub because my BIOS doesn't support it, how do i do it?(i already have a bootable usb)
[20:34] <rapt_> join gattaka
[20:34] <nsahoo> hi, anyone familiar with NUMA?
[20:34] <rapt_> j gatakka
[20:34] <spikebike> nsahoo: ya
[20:34] <Stereocaulon> fwest, right, but it seems Canonical has kannabalized it now to remove any advantages to their beta product ldm
[20:34] <nestea> Trying to get my audio to work, worked fine with a fresh install of 11.04 but when I had it upgrade to 11.10 it quit, and I can't figure out why
[20:34] <raggerzz> tdm4: this is what i got: ii  xserver-xorg-video-sis 1:0.10.3-3   X.Org X server -- SiS display driver ii  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb              1:0.9.4-2  X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver
[20:34] <werever> fritsch vlt:  after upgrade GUI is not starting and I have following error "no suitable module for running kernel" and some times and [FAIL] msg in red color
[20:34] <nsahoo> nsahoo: ?
[20:34] <fwest> Stereocaulon, xdm is not the fix
[20:34] <[_miT_]> nestea: my upgrade had alsa errors, i hope my sound works when i get home
[20:35] <tdm4> raggerzz: and X won't start up?
[20:35] <Wamphyri> ok so ubuntu 11.10 shouldn't have any delema's wish a amd 1100T or 16g ram right? and it'll reconize ati 5700 as well?
[20:35] <fritsch> werever: the fail comes from daemons while starting
[20:35] <nestea> well, looking at the stuff, it seems to have not found the hardware for it
[20:35] <fritsch> werever: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:35] <nestea> so how can I get ubuntu to look for new hardware
[20:35] <nsahoo> spikebike: do i have to use any special version of ubuntu/linux to take full advantage of NUMA architecture?
[20:35] <fritsch> to have a look what is happening
[20:35] <raggerzz> tdm4: nope, like i said, its a 2000 i think with no upgrades
[20:35] <fritsch> nestea: it does automatically while starting
[20:35] <spikebike> nsahoo: no, well current is good since it's a moving target
[20:35] <nestea> okay
[20:35] <Stereocaulon> fwest, well, we use xdm in our company to login to LDAP. Heck, it even uses Ubuntu 10.04 for it's software repository
[20:35] <fritsch> nestea: every device is recognized by the kernel and modules are loarded
[20:36] <werever> fritsch: ok
[20:36] <nestea> so why is my audio hardware not being loaded?
[20:36] <nestea> it loaded fine in 11.04
[20:36] <tdm4> raggerzz: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[20:36] <yeats> !sound | nestea
[20:36] <al3l54h> it have gone full derp
[20:36] <nsahoo> spikebike: right now the standard distribution seems to suggest it is for SMP, is it good to take advantage of NUMA?
[20:36] <Wamphyri> nestea, do you see your sound device in dmesg?
[20:36] <Stereocaulon> fwest, granted our corporate image is a *heavily* modified Ubuntu 10.04 suitable for ltsp.
[20:37] <fwest> Stereocaulon, it is nothing to do with xdm/gdm etc
[20:37] <spikebike> nsahoo: ya, you might need an apt-get or two to get some of the tools, depending on what you are doing.  But the standard SMP kernels have numa support
[20:37] <tdm4> I think most sound problems are down to the fact that pulseaudio exists :D
[20:37] <douggle> how does one disable the screen going black after say 15 minutes of idle? its not in the power options
[20:37] <nestea> no
[20:37] <Wamphyri> douggle, screen saver settings?
[20:37] <nestea> i don't see my device
[20:37] <al3l54h> douggle: screensaver?
[20:37] <Stereocaulon> fwest, no? Just browse this article here: http://www.junauza.com/2011/05/ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-features.html
[20:37] <nsahoo> spikebike: meaning, the operating system will automatically assign memory closest to the cpu that is running the task? excuse me, I am relatively new to the NUMA area.
[20:37] <TRider> Hey.hkuh
[20:38] <Stereocaulon> fwest, pay attention to 2. LightDM replaces GDM
[20:38] <douggle> i found it it was under screens not screensaver.
[20:38] <Wamphyri> nestea, i would guess then that the module for your sound device isn't loaded
[20:38] <TRider> Where can I find chroot.conf ?
[20:38] <raggerzz> tdm4: in Natty it told me i couldnt run parts of unity and auto reset itself. yes i can
[20:38] <spikebike> nsahoo: well there are defaults, but programs that worry about it specifically can control it directly if needed.  Numactl is a command line version of similar
[20:38] <sianhulo> my bios doesn't support usb booting, which is the way to boot it by GRUB2?
[20:38] <werever> fritsch: I never opened Xorg.0.log before, but I found this line: "FATAL ERROR: no screens found", what do you think? its relevant?
[20:38] <martiert> Hi, is there an official mirror with skype for 11.10?
[20:39] <tdm4> raggerzz: thanks
[20:39] <fwest> Stereocaulon, its the xsession process that is the issue not the manager
[20:39] <rhizmoe> martiert: get the torrent
[20:39] <martiert> or any mirror at all
[20:39] <rhizmoe> is there a way for me to switch the mail applet from evolution to thunderbird?
[20:39] <xangua> martiert: you can download skype from partner repos or skype.com
[20:39] <rhizmoe> oh...skype
[20:39] <rhizmoe> nm
[20:40] <nsahoo> spikebike: I checked numactl. I guess, I don't want to worry about it (but, i do worry about it .. paradoxically). Just want the OS to take care of assigning the memory to the job in the most efficient way.
[20:40] <xangua> rhizmoe: oneiric uses thunderbird for the mail indicator
[20:40] <fritsch> werever: try to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:40] <fritsch> werever: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-bak
[20:40] <martiert> how do I activate the partner repo?
[20:40] <fritsch> werever: and reboot
[20:40] <martiert> repos*
[20:40] <raggerzz> tdm4: ok i got the file. pastebin? sorry, havent done this before
[20:40] <werever> fritsch:ok I will backp it,,,yes thanks
[20:40] <Richardo> Hellp all!
[20:41] <tdm4> raggerzz: one sec
[20:41] <auronandace> !partner | martiert
[20:41] <genii-around> !details | Richardo
[20:41] <Stereocaulon> fwest, I see, but you will still need a suitable hook from the *dm into that xsession that offers the options necessary to login with LDAP
[20:41] <Richardo> Sorry, meant to say hello
[20:41] <spikebike> nsahoo: it just works... of course it involved guesswork, so it's an approximation.  But the kernel has a good idea of NUMA related variable for all current released archictures.  Some of the unannounced chips require some tweaks... like bulldozer
[20:41] <Richardo> But I´ll start now
[20:41] <tdm4> raggerzz: go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste the entire Xorg.0.log to it.. then submit it and give me the link to the pastebin.com
[20:41] <nsahoo> spikebike: just curious, why does the uname -a command still shows *** SMP *** in it when it is adept at both SMP and NUMA architecture.
[20:41] <Richardo> I am running Ubuntu 11.10
[20:41] <fwest> Stereocaulon, hook?
[20:41] <tdm4> raggerzz: that way you can show me your Xorg.0.log without spamming the channel or PM :)
[20:41] <tmp_user> Hey guys. 11.10 trouble here. So my sound has always worked ever since the days of 10.04 but now it doesn't. I can find the device that I use in the hardware tab of the sound settings and I can test the sound and hear it from there so I know that it recognises the hardware and is able to use it. HOWEVER this device will NOT show up in the Output tab thus I have no sound. Any idea how I might fix this?
[20:41] <raggerzz> tdm4: oh ok one sec
[20:42] <Richardo> I am unable to connect to the internet via WIFI
[20:42] <spikebike> nsahoo: ya, it's called SMP, but in reality almost all SMPs today are numa
[20:42] <nsahoo> spikebike: ok. thanks. any idea whether I should set the BIOS to NUMA or SMP?
[20:42] <guntbert> !enter | Richardo
[20:42] <Richardo> the same way i was unable to when i first installed 10.04
[20:42] <rapt_> hi all
[20:42] <spikebike> nsahoo: numa
[20:42] <Stereocaulon> fwest, well yes, an interface. Nvm.
[20:42] <guntbert> rapt_: hi,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:42] <nsahoo> spikebike: ok
[20:43] <Wamphyri> lol guntbert  has all the answers but no answers to questions :p
[20:43] <fritsch> werever: the last command was to backup
[20:43] <raggerzz> tdm4: http://pastebin.com/H6M0SrdE
[20:43] <fwest> Stereocaulon, so pam_ldap configured and working isn't good enough eh?
[20:43] <geartrooper> how may I disable alt + rmb so a window does not pop up in blender?
[20:44] <binspace> How do I configure the workspace switcher in 11.10?
[20:44] <Wamphyri> is there a fix for the ehci issues?
[20:45] <albert_> hi, how can i use passwd on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[20:46] <Stereocaulon> fwest, nope, if the *dm does not offer an interface to select that option it's not. At the time we were introducing ltsp this was an issue with gdm, so we had to switch to xdm instead. This might be totally outdated right now. I have not done any research on login screens since we introduced ltsp 3 years ago.
[20:46] <Richardo> Hello all. Sorry for using enter as punctuation. Here, I´ll have another go. I just updated to Ubuntu 11.10. I am unable to connect to the internet via WIFI the same way i was unable to when i first installed 10.04. In previous updates this was never an issue. Currently I have no connection to the internet via an ethernet cable and can only access it through another computer. Is there any way of remedying this situation as I am now? 
[20:46] <Wamphyri> albert_, sudo
[20:46] <albert_> because, it doesn't work. when i do it as root, it doesnt recognice the password in unity
[20:46] <albert_> Wamphyri: i cannot use sudo because it asks for a password and it doesnt accept the password which was previosly set by passwd
[20:46] <guntbert> albert_: what are you trying to do?
[20:46] <albert_> guntbert: setting a password
[20:46] <tdm4> raggerzz: odd.. according to Xorg.0.log it should be functioning correctly
[20:47] <Wamphyri> albert_, your using like this right     sudo passwd username  ?
[20:47] <TRider> Whenever I try to install something I get 404 Not found error. can someone help ?
[20:47] <Wamphyri> or if your su - into root
[20:47] <albert_> yea, it first asks for the password for sudo
[20:47] <binspace> It seems like I cannot right click the workspace switcher in unity. http://www.xinotes.org/notes/note/978/
[20:47] <martian> If I wanted to manually install a binary application, where would be the 'right' place to put it?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> albert_: sudo doesn't give any feedback, just keep typing
[20:47] <guntbert> albert_: you can set the password of your own user just with passwd
[20:47] <Wamphyri> just passwd username
[20:47] <Flannel> albert_: Are you trying to set your own password? orsomeone elses?
[20:47] <albert_> su also asks for a password
[20:47] <albert_> passwd also asks for the current password
[20:47] <binspace> and I can't find documentation on how to change the configuration of the workspace switcher
[20:47] <albert_> Flannel: my  own
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> albert_: su will always fail (if you are su'ing to root)
[20:47] <KittyGirl> I just upgraded to the new Ubuntu version and now i've no sound. :(
[20:47] <raggerzz> tdm4: sorry if i wasnt clear before. it is working but is so slow that i would like to revert the settings
[20:47] <Flannel> albert_: You don't need sudo then, just `passwd`.
[20:48] <tdm4> raggerzz: ah wait.. DRI disabled here
[20:48] <werever> fritsch: I renamed this log file and I have same problema after reboot, additionaly I noted this msg when my starting screen goes frezzed "no mpm apache installed " or something similar
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> albert_: just type your user password for sudo , it will work
[20:48] <albert_> Flannel: that also asks for the current password
[20:48] <tdm4> yeah that would make Unity not work
[20:48] <tdm4> you'll need to disable Unity
[20:48] <Flannel> albert_: Yes.  Do you not know your current password?
[20:48] <Flannel> albert_: (you didn't mention this, if that's the case)
[20:48] <KittyGirl> I just upgraded to the new Ubuntu version and now i've no sound. :(
[20:48] <softcoder> fyi is users try to compile cmake projects and get errors about missing rtmp
[20:48] <TimLoal> hi all, just installed ubuntu on my other laptop, I've just moved to linux and first need to setup a vpn, but don't have a clue how, yet.  Can anyone help me?
[20:48] <albert_> Flannel: i previosly set one via passwd (as root, via chroot from another system). but it doesnt accept that one
[20:48] <KittyGirl> woops
[20:48] <softcoder> they hneed to run:
[20:48] <softcoder> sudo apt-get install librtmp-dev
[20:48] <jdjbmedina> i am updating now to the 11.10
[20:48] <TRider> Whenever I try to install something I get 404 Not found error. can someone help ?
[20:48] <albert_> the VT0 console accepts it, though
[20:48] <tdm4> raggerzz: yeah without DRI, it will be excruciatingly slow
[20:48] <KittyGirl> sorry for the repeat.
[20:48] <albert_> i am currently logged in there as root
[20:49] <albert_> and tried to reset it via passwd
[20:49] <Flannel> albert_: Er... if you set... ah.
[20:49] <albert_> but it still doesnt accept it in unity
[20:49] <logi01> hi, after i delete a 700MB cd-rw with brasero nautilus tells me that the cd-rw only has a size of 6.1MB?
[20:49] <raggerzz> tdm4: yes, so ive found...so any ideas on how to disable unity in 11.10?
[20:49] <Flannel> albert_: You really shouldn't be running a GUI as root.
[20:49] <albert_> no, i am logged in as a user in the GUI
[20:49] <Stereocaulon> Is there a good tutorial for Gnome2 afficionados, like me with Q & A's about alternatives to the uncluttered interface that Gnome presented? A sort of Switching from Gnome2 to Unity document? I am having a difficult time to adapt here, even though Unity does look visually appealing. In terms of workflow, it leaves me confounded right now
[20:49] <Flannel> albert_: by "doesn't accept it" you mean you can't log in as root from gdm?
[20:50] <albert_> Flannel: all apps which asks for password dont accept the password
[20:50] <devish> if i choose blank disk option in brasero to burn a rw dvd then will it erase the earler data and then burn it??
[20:50] <Flannel> albert_: That's asking for the user password, not the root password.  This is using sudo, not su.
[20:50] <guest15987> Hi, I am running live cd of the new ubuntu and I cant connect using DHCP, only manual settings works (somewhat). Also reconnecting freeze my ddwrt router. (under windows DHCP works fine and the router is prety stable)
[20:50] <albert_> Flannel: i.e., system settings, etc
[20:50] <albert_> Flannel: yea, and sudo also doesnt work
[20:50] <albert_> it also doesnt accept the password
[20:50] <tdm4> [   651.086] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
[20:50] <tdm4> [   651.086] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[20:51] <scorinitron> I just started using ubuntu I'm using 11.04 I want to start learning the terminal...is their another OS I can go to that's a little more complicated than ubuntu but something I can still learn from
[20:51] <tdm4> wonder why it didn't like that.. weird
[20:51] <Flannel> albert_: Alright, that's not related to unity at all.  So, lets back up and make sure we're on te same page, since this has gone all over the place.
[20:51] <naftilos76> Does anyone see any bugs in 11.10?
[20:51] <Wamphyri> i successfully install ubuntu 11.10 onto my desktop but when it reboots it locks up and becomes non resposive at a black screen after i select either the resuce kernel or regular kernel
[20:51] <Wamphyri> any suggestions?
[20:51] <Stereocaulon> I'd like to try another Desktop Manager, but I do want one where I can easily find all my applications
[20:51] <albert_> maybe there is another way to set the password, despite passwd? because, when set via passwd <user>, it doesnt work
[20:51] <ubiMike> Good evening, again :)
[20:51] <Flannel> albert_: You think you may have a root password set.  You're logged in as a regular user, trying to sudo, and after typing that regular user's password at the password prompt, you get an error.
[20:52] <raggerzz> tdm4: in 11.04 i was not using unity and liked it. i just need to disable it correct?
[20:52] <albert_> Flannel: yes exactly
[20:52] <rapt_> Good evening
[20:52] <TimLoal> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<    >>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hey I'm a microsoft head for 20+ years i'm moving ove, defecting if you will, I was hoping that some of you would be intrested in welcomming a new user.  Pm me if you are.
[20:52] <guntbert> !nomodeset | Wamphyri
[20:52] <Flannel> albert_: Alright.  Have you done any tweaking of your sudoers file or anything like that?
[20:52] <reisi> guest15987: is this with the latest 11.10?
[20:53] <guntbert> !ot | TimLoal
[20:53] <albert_> Flannel: no. i setup the system via debootstrap
[20:53] <donpdonp> where can i change the number of virtual desktops?
[20:53] <albert_> and installed ubuntu-desktop
[20:53] <albert_> nothing more so far
[20:53] <Oryon> Is there any ways to boot an OS without a USB/CD/any external drives?
[20:53] <Flannel> albert_: Does sudo give you an error? or just the "that's not your password" message?
[20:53] <Wamphyri> guntbert, ok well i have tried with and without that option, whats your next suggestion?
[20:54] <raggerzz> does anyone know how to disable unity in 11.10?
[20:54] <donpdonp> Oryon: not sure what you're asking. the OS has to come from somewhere
[20:54] <albert_> Flannel: yes, something authentication failed
[20:54] <scorinitron> I wanna have the skills of a hacker without being illigea
[20:54] <scorinitron> l
[20:54] <ubiMike> !nounity
[20:54] <ubiMike> raggerzz,
[20:54] <Oryon> donpdonp:i mean i want to install it from my HDD into my HDD:)
[20:54] <scorinitron> I wanna be a master at terminal where do I start
[20:54] <guntbert> Wamphyri: how did you try and what were the results?
[20:54] <donpdonp> Oryon: oh. not that i know of
[20:54] <Flannel> albert_: open a terminal as your regular user and type 'groups', what does it return?
[20:54] <xangua> !terminal | scorinitron
[20:55] <ubiMike> scorinitron, hackers are not illegal. Google and Read 'Hacker's Manual'.
[20:55] <Stereocaulon> Oryon, well, yes, by flashing the bootrom to look for a netimage. That is the way that terminals or Nettops work.
[20:55] <albert_> Flannel: well, sudo says password incorrect, actually
[20:55] <Richardo> Hi guys, any help on my afore mentioned issue would be much appreciated =D
[20:55] <Oryon> Stereocaulon: And maybe with unetbootin?
[20:55] <pzn> how can I get the starttime of a process? in debian "stat /proc/NNN" shows it. however in ubuntu, this does not work as expected. how to do?
[20:55] <oceantype> hello since upgrade to 11.10 my wifi doesnt work anymore whar can i do?
[20:55] <xulli> What backup utility would you recommend for backing up entire linux partition ?
[20:55] <nicofs> Can someone help me get my dvb to work? It's a TerraTec Cynergy Hybrid XE, according to linuxtv.org it is supported if the appropriate firmware is used. I copied that to /lib/firmware - but no program recognizes a dvb device...
[20:55] <donpdonp> where is the setting for number of workspaces/desktops?
[20:55] <albert_> Flannel: <username> users
[20:55] <raggerzz> ubiMike: yes?
[20:55] <werever> any ideas how to fix kernel on 11.10? I have access to tty console only
[20:55] <ubiMike> !nounity | raggerzz
[20:55] <ubiMike> read :)
[20:55] <xangua> xulli: oneiric comes with one backup tool default now
[20:55] <ibizaman> xangua: dd ?
[20:56] <raggerzz> ahh...oops guess i missed that! Thanks!
[20:56] <geartrooper> I installed compiz, moved the alt key control, and now the display on the left has disappeared!
[20:56] <xangua> werever: to fix what¿ do we have to guess¿
[20:56] <raggerzz> ubottu: Thank You!
[20:56] <Flannel> albert_: Alright.  That could be your problem, if you do infact have a default sudoers.  You need that user to be in the 'admin' group.  (`adduser username admin` will solve that)
[20:56] <werever> xangua: I already guessing whats happening
[20:56] <xulli> xangua: that sounds great but I was wondering if I could backup my system before I go into the upgrade :)
[20:56] <pcsapkota> Hello guys ..I am new in ubuntu...please help me what we can use to access blocked sites
[20:56] <pcsapkota> please..........
[20:57] <Stereocaulon> Oryon, well, you will need a medium to start booting from, lookup your BIOS/ UEFI options if you see something like netboot/ PXE or something like that. You will need a suitable server in your LAN that provides the loadable image though
[20:57] <LjL> pcsapkota: tried Tor?
[20:57] <KittyGirl> I just upgraded to the new Ubuntu version and now i've no sound. :(
[20:57] <donpdonp> Oryon: usb drives are cheap.
[20:57] <pcsapkota> i tried it but its not working
[20:57] <Flannel> albert_: One thing that makes me a little curious about your sudoers file is usually you'd get a "user not in sudoers, this will be reported" or whatnot type error if you don't have permission to use sudo.
[20:57] <Stereocaulon> donpdonp, I think Oryon's box does not have the option to boot from USB
[20:57] <werever> xangua: just having a problem after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, starting commands say "no suitable module for running kernel", and starting goes freezed, I man no GUI is showed, any reccomendation to fix it??? thanks folks!!!
[20:57] <naftilos76> is there anyone that does not have problems after upgrading?
[20:57] <Richardo> ubottu, fancy helping me out? Pretty please
[20:58] <xbb> KittyGirl, are you speakers turned on? Check if sound is muted in volume control.
[20:58] <Richardo> LIES
[20:58] <Oryon> donpdonp: i just bought one, and when i try to install any Ubuntu OS from it, it gives me an error like 32r not an image file
[20:58] <LjL> pcsapkota: have you installed both Tor and Privoxy? (or Vidalia, not sure what's used these days, i'm stuck in the past) - also, you need to set the proxy in your browser
[20:58] <donpdonp> Oryon: known bug. it actually works anyways
[20:58] <ubiMike> naftilos76, there are lot of people with no problems... mostly complains. :)
[20:58] <KittyGirl> xbb: Hey i use a well working transmitter.
[20:58] <albert_> Flannel: yea, you are right. didnt even thought of that. but there is another strange error, not sure if related
[20:58] <Oryon> donpdonp: than who can i boot?
[20:58] <donpdonp> Oryon: choose an image, i think tab will give a list
[20:58] <albert_> Flannel: host ubuntu not found
[20:58] <KittyGirl> and yes my surround system is turned on.
[20:58] <antibody> hi all I have a huge problem ever since I installed 11.11(I installed while in beta) it used to work after the upgrade..but in a moment gdm and lightdm stopped working kdm work as well as startx.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/860050 this is the bug....so what I ask is... when I do remove --purge lightdm gdm what other /etc files I can remove?
[20:58] <xulli> Does anyone know about a backup utility to backup entire linux partition ?
[20:59] <donpdonp> Oryon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1737637
[20:59] <albert_> Flannel: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[20:59] <paranoid_ndroid> I was upgrading to the last ubuntu and my net got down. I tried to log out but it restarted. Now it does not boot, what to do?
[20:59] <Flannel> albert_: That would be related, yes.  You need to make sure your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname are in order.
[20:59] <Flannel> !hostname | albert_
[20:59] <scorinitron> ubottu is kinda like an NPC
[20:59] <xbb> KittyGirl, check if mute is on, this gets me all the time.
[20:59] <paranoid_ndroid> I was upgrading to the last ubuntu and my net got down. I tried to log out but it restarted. Now it does not boot, what to do?
[20:59] <pcsapkota> @LjL  how to set proxy ?
[20:59] <albert_> ah yea
[20:59] <tleeonly> question I upgraded to the new Ubuntu 11.10 i can no longer use my printer and my printer is a Lexmark x5650 I need help
[20:59] <scorinitron> ubottu u suck lol
[20:59] <Oryon> donpdonp: the ISO file is not corrupt, i checked md5sum, and tryed 3 different versions
[20:59] <KittyGirl> xbb: It's not.
[20:59] <antibody> paranoid_ndroid, what happends in the boot?
[21:00] <donpdonp> Oryon: yes. the link says what to do
[21:00] <scorinitron> ubottu your a broken record XD (I know he's a bot it's just funny)
[21:00] <antibody> paranoid_ndroid, try to do recovery boot and do dpkg --configure -a
[21:00] <Flannel> scorinitron: Please stop harassing her.
[21:00] <albert_> Flannel: are there any tools which would do the rest of the system setup? because i just did debootstrap, installed the base system, a linux kernel and grub and made it bootable, not much else so far. i wonder what else i am missing
[21:00] <werever> how to force 11.10 to show grub?, I need to logon on recovery nmode and pressing shift msg "grub loading..." is displayed but grub is not showed
[21:00] <scorinitron> Flannel: Why...She's stupid she said it her self XD
[21:00] <Oryon> donpdonp: only says taht the image was corrupt, and redownloading helped him
[21:00] <raggerzz> one other thing...im using dazzle dvc 100 and i cannot get any capture video or audio. Any ideas?
[21:00] <Oryon> donpdonp: but it dont helps me:(
[21:00] <ubiMike> Flannel, HER?!
[21:00] <ubiMike> ubottu, is a she ?
[21:01] <donpdonp> Oryon: 'Try entering "Help" at the prompt.'
[21:01]  * ubiMike is puzzled..
[21:01] <xbb> KittyGirl, check in Preferences -> Sound maybe something is off there
[21:01] <scorinitron> flannel: lol It's a girl?
[21:01] <Stereocaulon> Oryon, did you check the boot options in your BIOS/ UEFI?
[21:01] <scorinitron> Ubottu are you a girl?
[21:01] <Flannel> !gender
[21:01] <guntbert> !gender | scorinitron
[21:01] <scorinitron> XD
[21:01] <werever> guys, how can I force 11.10 to show grub or entering recovery mode ?, when pressing shift msg "grub loading..." is displayed but grub is not showed
[21:01] <scorinitron> !gender
[21:01] <donpdonp> werever: did you try the other shift key
[21:01] <KittyGirl> xbb: I'm an IT technician meaning i do all these checks before talking into this channel.
[21:01] <Flannel> scorinitron: And please help keep the noise in this channel to a minimum, there's 1700 people in here.  Thanks.
[21:01] <werever> !gender
[21:01] <paranoid_ndroid> how can I insert unicode characters in the recovery text session?
[21:01] <Oryon> Stereocaulon: yes ofc, it boots the linux, recognises the usb as well, sais that name peter Av something, but right after it gives the error
[21:02] <ubiMike> xD
[21:02] <scorinitron> Flannel: srry
[21:02] <ubiMike> Damn!
[21:02] <Edisto> hmmm... i think i just found a bug
[21:02] <werever> donpdonp: I dont remeber, trying again, thanks
[21:02] <raggerzz> Dazzle dvc 100 help? 11.10?
[21:02] <xbb> KittyGirl, I don't know your background, can't assume your level of expertise :)
[21:02] <Edisto> i went into compiz and clicked preferences and my menus disapeared with the unity on the side
[21:02] <Edisto> i can't see anything but windows right now
[21:02] <KittyGirl> xbb: I know that's why i said this to you.
[21:02] <auronandace> !bugs | Edisto
[21:02] <guntbert> !bug | Edisto
[21:03] <KittyGirl> I know Windows an awful lot more than Ubuntu. :)
[21:03] <raggerzz> Edisto: log out and re sign in. it worked for me
[21:03] <Flannel> albert_: I don't know of one, no.  ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-desktop would give you all the packages you need.  Normal users have a littany of groups they're in by default.  You could concievably use Users and Groups (the GUI) to help figure those out.
[21:03] <oceantype> hello since 11.10 my wifi is not working anymore what can i do? http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/328
[21:03] <Edisto> how do i log out using the keyboard command?
[21:03] <KittyGirl> xbb: Should my ALSA Mixer need updating?
[21:03] <xbb> KittyGirl, don't know. Hard to tell.
[21:03] <KittyGirl> no no no it can't be that.
[21:03] <KittyGirl> It was working before the upgrade.
[21:04] <raggerzz> Edisto: Ctl+Alt+L then log out all the way
[21:04] <KittyGirl> xbb: So what could it be?
[21:04] <xbb> KittyGirl, don't know. Never really had problem with sound.
[21:04] <xbb> KittyGirl, Sorry...
[21:04] <Edisto> thanks... it is still gone though =|
[21:04] <ubiMike> I've found myself through a long Google search, driver for my integrated video card Intel GMA 965. There are several suggested git repositories, but I have no clue how to operate with them and how to install my driver. Suggestions ?http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q3.html
[21:04] <Edisto> oh log out all the way ok
[21:04] <donpdonp> Oryon: the link wasnt the best description but i had the same error and the usb drive was actually fine - ignoring the error and choosing a system image to boot worked
[21:04] <nocilis> Edisto try Alt-F1 if you can't see to click
[21:04] <xbb> May be someone else can help
[21:04] <KittyGirl> Does anyone else know the answer to my question?
[21:04] <C-S-B> I keep on getting an error on boot that it failed to check my home partition (btfs)
[21:05] <werever> donpdonp: tried with otgher shift key without sucess
[21:05] <donpdonp> werever: weird. is the keyboard plugged in :)
[21:05] <raggerzz> Edisto: did you try restarting? that should fix it if all else fails
[21:05] <ikonia> KittyGirl: what is your question ?
[21:05] <Edisto> interesting i log back in and now the desktop is black
[21:05] <nocilis> KittyGirl i assume you've tried alsamixer
[21:05] <werever> guys, how can I force 11.10 to show grub or entering recovery mode ?, when pressing shift left or shift right msg "grub loading..." is displayed but grub is not showed, keyboard is working fine on bios, etc
[21:05] <Edisto> going to restart
[21:05] <xbb> KittyGirl, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1845555
[21:05] <nocilis> Edisto good luck
[21:06] <xbb> KittyGirl, and http://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+11.10+no+sound
[21:06] <douggle> so synaptic tapzones is it possible?
[21:07] <werever> one more try, guys, how can I enter recovery mode or repair mode on 11.10 I have a live cd, and I trying to repair my 11.10 main hd installation??
[21:07] <raggerzz> Edisto: Lemme know if it works!
[21:07] <albert___> Flannel: still doesnt work. user is in almost all groups now. hostname is set correctly. hosts is also fixed. i can resolve the hostname
[21:07] <ikonia> werever: you can select recovery mode from the grub menu
[21:07] <albert___> Flannel: sudo doesnt report any errors, despite wrong password
[21:07] <werever> ikonia: from live cd 11.10?
[21:07] <ubuntuUser822> May somebody help me troubleshoot my problem with the installation of 11.10 on an Atom powered netbook?
[21:07] <th0r> douggle: synclient?
[21:07] <nocilis> werever are you trying to get the files off or repair it completely?
[21:08] <werever> nocilis: not sure what is the problem maybe repair completely
[21:08] <ikonia> werever: no, you enter livecd from your grub options of your normal install, or you treat the livecd as a recovery mode
[21:08] <ubiMike> Is there anyone in possession of the knowledge about git repositories and how am I to download my driver from one ?
[21:08] <nocilis> werever what is the problem?
[21:08] <nocilis> werever it won't boot?
[21:09] <ikonia> ubiMike: just explain your problem
[21:09] <werever> nocilis: just having a problem after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, starting commands say "no suitable module for running kernel", and starting goes freezed, I man no GUI is showed
[21:09] <ubiMike> I've found myself through a long Google search, driver for my integrated video card Intel GMA 965. There are several suggested git repositories, but I have no clue how to operate with them and how to install my driver. Suggestions ? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q3.html
[21:09] <ikonia> ubiMike: the intel card should work fine, you don't need to download anything
[21:10] <nocilis> werever have you read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940001 ?
[21:10] <ubiMike> ikonia, it's not recognized by the system.
[21:10] <Stereocaulon> werever, use the alternative installer CD which has a text interface. That one does have a repair mode in singleuser mode
[21:10] <ikonia> ubiMike: what makes you think that ?
[21:10] <soreau> ubiMike: Graphics drivers are basically in two parts. You have the kernel space drivers and you have the userspace components such as X drivers and mesa (the 3D part)
[21:10] <nocilis> werever sounds like it is mostly a virtualbox problem, same for you?
[21:10] <raggerzz> ubiMike: ok i downloaded everything but when i run the tweak tool it show nothing under shell extensions...and i get an error with the shell theme...
[21:10] <tleeonly> help I upgraded and now my lexmark x5650 no longer prints
[21:11] <soreau> ubiMike: Maybe you should start by explaining what problem you're having in the first place and what version of ubuntu you're using
[21:11] <rhizmoe> ugh, is the stuff i can't find gone, or just hidden? preferred applications, for instance.
[21:11] <raggerzz> Edisto: is it working for you?
[21:11] <Edisto> woah.... i can't see my unity bar nor an application menu or the top right panel options
[21:11] <ubiMike> When I go to System Info and choose Graphics - there it says: Driver - Unknown. I have lots of CPU loads while I'm not doing anything in particular.
[21:11] <ikonia> ubiMike: don't worry about that
[21:12] <Edisto> nah i cant see aynthing but file edit view go bookmarks and help
[21:12] <Edisto> and some windows
[21:12] <ikonia> ubiMike: is your xorg (gui) system up and running ?
[21:12] <raggerzz> Edisto: Hmmm...thats wierd
[21:12] <albert___> Flannel: ah, damn, sorry for confusion. we had different keyboard layouts everywhere...
[21:12] <soreau> rhizmoe: Try gnome-default-applications-properties
[21:12] <dendodge> If I upgrade to 11.10, can I keep GNOME2? (I may be in a minority, but I hate Unity with a passion.)
[21:12] <ikonia> dendodge: no
[21:12] <werever> nocilis: I have virtualbox, and maybe it is a virtual box problem I read some common problems with that and the post you shared me iis very close to my situation, thanks! trying now
[21:12] <raggerzz> !nounity
[21:12] <xbb> dendodge, no :(
[21:12] <dendodge> Then I'll stick to 11.04. Forever.
[21:12] <nocilis> werever no problem
[21:12] <rhizmoe> soreau: command not found
[21:12] <nocilis> werever good luck
[21:12] <xbb> dendodge, you and me
[21:12] <soreau> rhizmoe: What version of ubuntu/gnome?
[21:13] <ubiMike> My OS is Ubuntu 11.10. And yes my GUI is up and running, but it's laggy and annoying. ikonia soreau
[21:13] <rhizmoe> this is 11.10/g3
[21:13] <rhizmoe> unity
[21:13] <saml> hey..   from recovery kernel,  how can I bring up network?
[21:13] <saml> i tried  start networking    ifup eth0
[21:13] <andril> very easy ? i am trying to get the Tweaks tab in nautilus 10.04.3 - can someone help
[21:13] <soreau> ubiMike: Have you tried a non-unity or classic gnome session?
[21:13] <ikonia> soreau: you or me ?
[21:13] <Edisto> hmmm... is there a way to roll back like windows to installation?
[21:14] <Edisto> this is super jacked i can't do anything unless i type it into terminal
[21:14] <genii-around> !downgrade
[21:14] <nocilis> Edisto what did you do exactly?
[21:14] <Mystery> hi guys
[21:14] <soreau> ikonia: pardon?
[21:14] <andril> i rolled back to 10.04.3 with a fresh install :)
[21:14] <ubiMike> soreau, it was pretty much the same. After upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 Gnome session disappeared from the log in screen.
[21:14] <ubuntuUser822> When I install 11.10 from a stick on my MSI Wind U115 (Atom powered netbook) and "install to harddisk" i get: init: lightdm main process (2894) terminated with status 1   and nothing happens anymore
[21:14] <ikonia> soreau: didn't want to overlap
[21:14] <raggerzz> Edisto: did you try sudo apt-get upgrade?
[21:15] <Edisto> i went into compiz and hit preferences then the unity panel disappeared with the top bar... all i could see is the desktop
[21:15] <soreau> ubiMike: Have you tried unity 2D session?
[21:15] <ubiMike> I'm using it at the moment.
[21:15] <andril> s1: you there?
[21:15] <nocilis> Edisto maybe try picking a different window manager at login?
[21:15] <nocilis> Edisto or what raggerzz said
[21:15] <Mystery> I have set-up a Ubuntu server with email forwarding on some email accounts. It seems to forward "some" emails especially if they come from within the server, but it doesn't forward emails coming from other sources. Could someone help me look into the issue?
[21:15] <soreau> ubiMike: Have you checked if there is any particular process using excessive resources?
[21:16] <nicofs> Can someone help me get my dvb to work? It's a TerraTec Cynergy Hybrid XE, according to linuxtv.org it is supported if the appropriate firmware is used. I copied that to /lib/firmware - but no program recognizes a dvb device...
[21:16] <usr13> !dvd | nicofs
[21:16] <soreau> nicofs: Did you load the kernel driver for it?
[21:16] <nicofs> usr13, dvb... television
[21:16] <soreau> usr13: He said dvb, not dvd
[21:16] <Morgz> anyone had luck decrypting an encrypted home folder?
[21:17] <Edisto> it's messing it up even worse when i try to log out and back in
[21:17] <saml> ifconfig shows nothing
[21:17] <saml> how can I start networking?
[21:17] <usr13> o
[21:17] <enav> Hello i do really want to understand why my LAMP server creates files under the ownership root
[21:17] <ubiMike> soreau, well apart from Google Chrome - with 13 tabs - and compiz with 80mb of ram - nothing else.
[21:17] <Mystery> I have set-up a Ubuntu server with email forwarding on some email accounts. It seems to forward "some" emails especially if they come from within the server, but it doesn't forward emails coming from other sources. Could someone help me look into the issue?
[21:17] <usr13> saml: service netwrok start
[21:17] <saml> usr13: thanks
[21:17] <Flannel> albert___: hah.  Well, I'm glad you figured it out :)
[21:17] <soreau> ubiMike: Try disabling compiz by running 'metacity --replace'
[21:17] <ubiMike> soreau, I'm really worried about that driver - uknown. Is it normal ?
[21:17] <ubiMike> Alright... just a sec.
[21:17] <nicofs> soreau, how would i do that?
[21:17] <raggerzz> Edisto: no luck with upgrade?
[21:18] <Edisto> no its all 0
[21:18] <soreau> ubiMike: It's fine. Instead, check the output of lshw
[21:18] <usr13> *networking
[21:18] <soreau> ubiMike: You should be using the intel driver
[21:18] <soreau> ubiMike: i915
[21:18] <ubuntuUser821> When I install 11.10 from a stick on my MSI Wind U115 (Atom powered netbook) and "install to harddisk" i get: init: lightdm main process (2894) terminated with status 1   and nothing happens anymore, any ideas what to do? (this happens after about 1 minute after starting the installation)
[21:18] <raggerzz> Edisto: can you try update the upgrade?
[21:18] <soreau> nicofs: Can you show the line from lspci for the device?
[21:18] <Morgz> enav - isn't that a umask issue?
[21:18] <raggerzz> *then
[21:19] <Zappy> I would try my wind but it is sort of fried XD
[21:19] <paranoid_ndroid> I'm trying to create a startup disk, i insert a blanck USB drive, I choose the image and then nothing happens, the create button is greyed out
[21:19] <nicofs> soreau, "Bus 001 Device 011: ID 0ccd:0086 TerraTec Electronic GmbH"
[21:19] <scarleo> How can I set different screen power off times for on battery vs plugged in in Oneiric?
[21:19] <enav> Morgz: what?
[21:19] <saml> i did service networking start
[21:19] <saml> but no good
[21:19] <nicofs> soreau, it's lsusb...
[21:19] <usr13> saml: lspci |grep net
[21:19] <saml> i'm on recovery console
[21:19] <Edisto> still all 0
[21:19] <saml> usr13: sec
[21:19] <soreau> nicofs: ah..
[21:20] <raggerzz> What do you mean "all 0"?
[21:20] <Edisto> "0 upgraded, 0 newly isntalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded"
[21:20] <PriceChild> In 11.10, how do I choose my default browser?
[21:20] <usr13> saml: Is  your network interface card identified and showing in the output of lspci ?   If so, what does it say?
[21:20] <saml> usr13: broadcom corporation netextreme bcm5764m
[21:21] <nocilis> ubuntuUser821: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=68ee1dcd59862c8fa215905219ca0d7c&t=1473177&page=2
[21:21] <bluejeansummer> Just upgraded my workstation to 11.10 today, and it seems to have broken. I can't login.
[21:21] <usr13> saml: Wired or Wireless?
[21:21] <Morgz> enav - I'm not familiar with it, but umask sets the default file creation permissions from my understanding, maybe good place to start?
[21:21] <saml> i can't boot using normal kernel.. so i'm using recovery kernel in grub2
[21:21] <saml> usr13: wired
[21:21] <Stereocaulon> saml, try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart instead
[21:21] <nocilis> ubuntuUser821 looks like you can't have weird characters in the computer name
[21:21] <usr13> saml: iwconfig   #Does it show it?
[21:21] <saml> i think i'm on single user mode
[21:21] <saml> i'm root
[21:21] <soreau> nicofs: After plugging the device in, does 'dmesg|tail' show anything of interest?
[21:21] <Edisto> i'm goin to try to restart 1 more time then reinstall
[21:22] <bluejeansummer> When I try to login, the screen flashes to black and then goes back to the login screen.
[21:22] <usr13> saml:  Yes, as Stereocaulon says, restart networking
[21:22] <raggerzz> Edisto: sorry, ive got nothing. do you have another computer?
[21:22] <Edisto> is there a keyboard command to restart so i don't have to hit button?
[21:22] <Edisto> yeah i'm afraid to install 11.10 on my laptop
[21:22] <sudipta> hi....i have a problem with gnome shell in 11.10...it does not work with the graphics driver of my nvidia card...the screen freezees
[21:22] <Stereocaulon> saml, I don't know if you are automatically root, even while in single user mode...
[21:22] <nicofs> soreau, "usb 1-10: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12"
[21:23] <usr13> Edisto: Ctrl-Alt-F6  and then  Ctrl-Alt-Delete
[21:23] <raggerzz> Edisto: can you make a live usb with Natty (11.04) on it?
[21:23] <mkultra> ubuntu 11.10 has major problems
[21:23] <mkultra> 11.04 has problems too lol
[21:23] <Stereocaulon> mkultra, please specify...
[21:23] <saml> there are two kernels in grub menu.. first is normal one.. second one says (recovery mode)
[21:23] <mkultra> xfce specific problems
[21:23] <saml> i can only boot to that recovery mode kernel
[21:23] <mkultra> workplace switchers broken
[21:23] <CruzR> hi
[21:23] <saml> and i can drop to root shell
[21:23] <mkultra> compiz is broken in 11,10
[21:23] <CruzR> i just updated to oneiric
[21:23] <Stereocaulon> mkultra, that would be Xubuntu specific problems, no?
[21:24] <saml> and i can't restart networking  or using /etc/init.d/networking..
[21:24] <saml> it just brings up  lo   but no eth0
[21:24] <saml> usually, i have eth0
[21:24] <usr13> saml /etc/init.d/networking start
[21:24] <mkultra> im running ubuntu + xfce meta, not xubuntu
[21:24] <CruzR> but nautilus crashes whenever i try to open a bookmarked directory
[21:24] <axisys> login screen shows all valid users.. how do I change that where you have to type the username to login?
[21:24] <saml> usr13: same thing.. i tried both
[21:25] <CruzR> any suggestions?
[21:25] <usr13> saml: You are in recovery mode?  Why?
[21:25] <Stereocaulon> saml, does your network card even show up when you enter lspci | grep -i network?
[21:25] <usr13> Stereocaulon: Yes, he said it did
[21:25] <saml> Stereocaulon: yes
[21:25] <usr13> 16:22 < saml> usr13: broadcom corporation netextreme bcm5764m
[21:25] <saml> usr13: i cannot boot normally
[21:26] <sudipta> hi....i have a problem with gnome shell in 11.10...it does not work with the graphics driver of my nvidia card...the screen freezes
[21:26] <PriceChild> How do I chose the default browser in 11.10 ?
[21:26] <Edisto> it's a no go i'm just going to reinstall
[21:26] <usr13> saml: What happens when you try to boot normal?
[21:26] <Stereocaulon> usr13, saml, thanks for the reply, I guess I missed that before as this channel is quite buisy right now...
[21:26] <brontosaurusrex> is dock still customized via compiz settings in 10.11?
[21:26] <Edisto> unless someone can telle mw is there a way to make my top right menu options reappear
[21:26] <oneunder> I am having some issues after an upgrade to 11.10.  Shown here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/lc2r3/odd_wine_issue_after_upgrade/
[21:26] <Stereocaulon> sudipta, which GPU are you using?
[21:26] <soreau> nico1038: Looks like it's a trident chipset..
[21:26] <brontosaurusrex> the unity dock
[21:26] <Edisto> telle mw = tell me
[21:27] <saml> usr13: screen flashes.. it's not kernel panic i think.. i can sometimes get Ctrl+Alt+Delete to reboot.. sometimes i have to hard shutdown
[21:27] <oneunder> At first I thought it was a Wine issue.  Not it seems that I cannot run a program, as it cannot see that the program exists.
[21:27] <raggerzz> Edisto: try running gnome-panel
[21:27] <oneunder> Thank you for your help
[21:27] <soreau> nicofs: Looks like it's a trident chipset.. does 'lsmod|grep tm6000' show anything?
[21:27] <launch> Hi, i've upgraded to 11.10 via 11.04 and i install gnome-shell, then now i have 3 new choice, Gnome, Gnome Classic, Gnome Classic no effect. I choose Gnome and i feel ok with the new design, but now when i try to relog into gnome it load a mixture of both the classic and the new. any idea how to fix problem like that?
[21:27] <usr13> saml: screen flashes?  What color?
[21:28] <saml> usr13: i mean   blinks
[21:28] <mkultra> sudipta, go to admin settings > additional drivers and install 3rd party nvidia driver.
[21:28] <Stereocaulon> saml, so just off/ on, no specific color...
[21:28] <usr13> saml: If you boot normal, can you go to tty6 ??    (Ctrl-Alt-F6)
[21:28] <sudipta> Stereocaulon:nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)]
[21:28] <nicofs> soreau, no, nothing there - but i just found a page instructing me to manually compile v4l-dvb...
[21:29] <Reaper> I dl'ed the classic gnome but when i select it, it still loads 11.10
[21:29] <saml> oh ifconfig eth0 up brought it up
[21:29] <Reaper> anyone else have that?
[21:29] <launch> Reaper, lol me is the inverse
[21:29] <soreau> nicofs: Try 'sudo modprobe tm6000'
[21:29] <launch> It always load the classic
i have done that...the problem is shell freezes after installation..work otherwise
[21:29] <saml> how can i get ip? dhcpclient?
[21:29] <soreau> nicofs: This should load the kernel module
[21:29] <usr13> saml: yes
[21:29] <usr13> saml: sudo dhclient
[21:29] <nocilis> launch that might be because your graphics can't handle the new?
[21:29] <Stereocaulon> sudipta, your screen "froze", so you can't do what mkultra suggests, or can you?
[21:29] <usr13> saml: sudo dhclient eth0
[21:29] <launch> nocilis, no, its was working the first time
[21:29] <mkultra> sudipta, install lxterminal / xfce4-terminal from synaptic, there are several other shells
[21:29] <Jimbo99> hi everyone.  problem:  after doing an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 akonadi loads 20+ instances of itself and dbus-daemon is sitting at 70% cpu utilization.  i need help taming this upgrade.
[21:29] <raggerzz> launch: how did you choose gnome?
[21:30] <launch> raggerzz, i install gnome-shell
[21:30] <Reaper> launch way what?
[21:30] <Edisto> ok that worked raggerz
[21:30] <Reaper> launch *say
[21:30] <raggerzz> launch: as did i. but it wont allow me to choose
[21:30] <launch> Reaper, you upgrade via 11.04?
[21:30] <raggerzz> Edisto: no problem
[21:30] <usr13> saml: Is this a fresh install of 11.10?    Or...?
[21:30] <Reaper> launch nah I did a fresh install
[21:30] <radix> does sun-java6 exist for 11.10?
[21:30] <launch> raggerzz, i only do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and reboot
that is not a solution of my problem
[21:31] <soreau> nicofs: v4l is just an X driver (video for linux)
[21:31] <werever> how can I enable internet from command line on ubuntu?, my device is eth0
i want to get shell working
[21:31] <raggerzz> launch: ahh...the all important reboot
[21:31] <soreau> nicofs: You shouldn't need to build it
[21:31] <pierre_> #spip
[21:31] <nicofs> soreau, nothing happens - by which i mean the terminal stalls and i don't go back to a prompt...
[21:31] <mkultra> yeah, im telling you to use an alternative shell instead of gnome-terminal
[21:31] <Edisto> thx much =D so lets see... how do i reenable unity now?
no..i cant...i have installed it from unity session
[21:31] <Stereocaulon> Does anyone know how to exclude "downloable" programs that clutter my Dash right now?
[21:31] <mkultra> if gnome terminal is broke, give xfce4-terminal or lxterminal a try if your in a serious pinch
[21:32] <raggerzz> Edisto: reboot? or try !nounity and edit your settings
[21:32] <soreau> nicofs: Well that's not particularly good.. try rebooting with the device plugged in, check lsmod for tm6000 then if it's not loaded, try loading it again with modprobe
[21:32] <nocilis> mkultra or you could ctrl-alt-1
[21:32] <raggerzz> !nounity
[21:32] <launch> personnly i dont hate unity except tilda do not work properly within it
[21:32] <newbie> hi
[21:32] <Stereocaulon> Does anyone know how to exclude "downloadable" programs that clutter my Dash right now?
[21:32] <raggerzz> launch: i just dont have a fast enough processor to run it
[21:32] <Reaper> so whats the gnome shell do?
[21:32] <mkultra> yes that also works nocilis, but xfce4-terminal will run under gnome and accepts paste from websites where alt ctl f1 doesnt
[21:32] <nicofs> soreau, it just came back - maybe it needed a moment...
[21:33] <Promethes> this Gnome Fallback Mode is very limited, you even cannot modify or add anything to toolbars
[21:33] <launch> raggerzz, even with unity 2d?
[21:33] <soreau> nicofs: Ok now check 'dmesg|tail' for messages
[21:33] <Raelith> hi all, im having an issue with unbuntu 11.10 do i post here or a support channel?
[21:33] <raggerzz> launch: a very very old computer...
[21:33] <werever> how can I enable internet from command line on ubuntu?, my device is eth0 I tried sudo dhclient eth0 and is not working, of course ethernet cable is connected
[21:33] <mkultra> Reaper, press alt + f2 and type "gnome-terminal" no "" marks and run it will show u what gnome terminal does
[21:33] <sarkis_> hey guys im having major sound issues with ubuntu 11.10 and SoundBlaster X-Fi card.. any workaround yet??
[21:33] <launch> raggerzz, ok
[21:33] <nicofs> soreau, looks good - will check my tv program
[21:33] <intangir> my dash menu wont open, i click it, or hit start button, and its not poping out, it did before
[21:34] <usr13> werever: Does your router have DHCP server running?
[21:34] <Reaper> mkultra cool thanx
[21:34] <werever> yes
[21:34] <werever> usr13 yes
[21:34] <todo> HI Hi all
[21:34] <launch> raggerzz, http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/fallback-mode.html.en
[21:34] <usr13> werever: sudo dhclient eth0  should do it.  If not try:
[21:35] <intangir> wow pretty much anything you can do on ubunty comes to a screeeeeching halt when you cant open the damn dash menu.. wtf
[21:35] <usr13> sudo dhcpd eth0
[21:35] <guest-PUiBlN> j #ubuntu-it
[21:35] <todo> I have a problem with dell wifi on oneiric can someone help?
[21:35] <mkultra> intangir,  not true, alt + f2 = run dialog and you can go from there
[21:35] <nicofs> soreau, or not... "no dvb device found"... dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708223/
[21:35] <raggerzz> intangir: can you run terminal?
[21:36] <mkultra> i can run terminal, but i have omitted dash previously in favor of bash
[21:36] <Raelith> I'm having the following problem: my new Ubuntu 11.10 hangs at the ubuntu splash screen (i am on a live usb atmo) and from what i can figure out, the fallback graphics arent loading
[21:36] <usr13> *dhcpcd
[21:36] <usr13> typo
[21:36] <Jimbo99> can anyone help me with dbus-daemon taking a high amount of cpu utilization--started after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10
[21:36] <soreau> nicofs: That actually looks good.. try different programs to open the device like.. dvb.. lemme see
[21:36] <usr13> werever: sudo dhcpcd eth0
[21:36] <intangir> mkultra: wrong, alt-f2 does nothing, it looks like its trying to open dash, but it doesnt work
[21:37] <usr13> werever: Does that work?
[21:37] <bluejeansummer> I can't login after upgrading to 11.10. Details here; http://askubuntu.com/questions/66482/cant-login-after-installing-11-10
[21:37] <werever> usr13 trying
[21:37] <todo> I have a problem with dell wifi  driver being recognised on oneiric can someone help please?
[21:37] <janisozaur> hello, the totem application seems to have installed itself as a default folder handler, how can i change that?
[21:37] <clay-> I'm thinking of switching from FreeNAS to ubuntu server - will i be able to mount my UFS drives without wanting my head to explode?
[21:37] <werever> usr13 command not found
[21:38] <Jimbo99> does  your head explode easily?
[21:38] <soreau> nicofs: Try installing dvb-apps and running dvbscan or so
[21:38] <lelebart_guest> hi, i just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10, but i cannot login, i'm usign the guest account right now, what i missed?
[21:38] <usr13> werever: What happens when you do sudo dhclient eth0  ?
[21:39] <usr13> werever: timeout?
[21:39] <jrib> lelebart_guest: what happens when you attempt to login?
[21:39] <ubiMike> !nounity
[21:39] <binspace> anybody know how to configure the workspace switcher?
[21:39] <soreau> nicofs: Another program you might try is mythtv
[21:39] <mkultra> dash = shell interpretor
[21:39] <werever> usr13 yes timeout
[21:39] <ubiMike> !classic
[21:40] <nicofs> soreau, meTV doesn't work - frontent to dvbscan failes... will try myth
[21:40] <werever> !nounity
[21:40] <Jimbo99> please stop spamming ubottu
[21:40] <popsch> wow. banshee has some serious memory leaks. I just killed the process when it required 1.4GB of memory
[21:40] <lelebart_guest> jrgp, i see for few seconds some code, then i'm "redirect" to the login - sorry for my bad english
[21:40] <ubiMike> Jimbo99, sorry.. I was reading it again :)
[21:40] <Jimbo99> does anyone know how to get dbus-daemon from chewing up cpu cycles?
[21:40] <ubiMike> Wasn't on purpose.
[21:40] <jrib> lelebart_guest: can you login at a tty?
[21:41] <nicofs> soreau, mythtv runs into dependency problems and can't be installed...
[21:41] <soreau> nicofs: Do you have a video0 device node in /dev somewhere? find /dev -name '*video0*
[21:41] <usr13> werever: Try unplugging the cat5 cable while watching for the light to go out, (on the router, as well as the NIC's own indicator light), plug and unplug and see if those lights go on and off.
[21:41] <soreau> nicofs: erm.. find /dev -name '*video0*'
[21:41] <Stereocaulon> popsch, whoa, that's some drip indeed.
[21:41] <coaboa> hi. Is there a way to store a snapshot of an vm without interupting opertion (eg. server) thx
[21:41] <lelebart_guest> jrib, i didn't try.. ctrl+f1, i'm right?
[21:41] <Raelith> anyone have any idea how or why the fallback graphics arent loading on a ubuntu 11.10 startup? i'm left hanging with a splash screen
[21:41] <coaboa> using qemu
[21:41] <jrib> lelebart_guest: ctrl-alt-f1
[21:42] <popsch> I just restarted banshee and it's already up at 120MB again and increasing...
[21:42] <nicofs> soreau, /dev/video0
[21:42] <oremj> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and am new to unity. I want to create a simple launcher on the left side bar, which will open a terminal and run command. is that possible/
[21:42] <lelebart_guest> jrib, thanks, i'll try right now
[21:42] <usr13> Raelith: What does the spalsh screen look like?
[21:42] <Stereocaulon> popsch, then switch to another music player and report the issue if not already done
[21:42] <soreau> nicofs: That's a good sign though you'll have to find a program that can recognize it (or tell whatever program where to find it)
[21:42] <Edisto> ahhh cool... thanks again raggerz
[21:43] <lelebart_guest> jrib, yes, i can login - i'm logged in tty1
[21:43] <popsch> Stereocaulon, I used rhythmbox, but they changed the API and now the shoutcast plugin doesn't work anymore
[21:43] <mkultra> popsch are you using banshee for video or audio?  use vlc 4 video audacious 4 audio
[21:43] <mkultra> im listing to shoutcast alex jones on audacious right now
[21:43] <Raelith> usr13: its just the purple splash with the 5 dots. i have been around the houses and tried a verbose startup and there it said that the fallback graphics failed to start
[21:43] <usr13> oremj: When you click on the programs icon, you can type in gnome-terminal  and soon as you get to unique part, it will come up and will stay as favorite app
[21:43] <popsch> I use it to listen to audio only
[21:44] <soreau> nicofs: The other thing is, you might have to tell X to load the v4l2 module
[21:44] <nicofs> Is there any good program to watch TV apart from mythtv?
[21:44] <popsch> I know vlc, but it doesn't list all the audio channels
[21:44] <mkultra> your using it to find audio channels?
[21:44] <Edisto> is there a way to make gnome3 my default instead of having to run gnome-shell in terminal all the time?
[21:44] <usr13> Raelith: Ctrl-Alt-F6  #Does that take you to console screen?
[21:44] <Raelith> my system depends on the fallback as i only have a lowly nvidia gts 450
[21:44] <Edisto> yes it does
[21:45] <usr13> Raelith: Actually, if you hit Esc key, it will get rid of slash screen
[21:45] <erkan^> Where can I found "paneel", i use Gnome Classic for Ubuntu 11.10 now?
[21:45] <usr13> Raelith: And you can see messages telling you what is happening.
[21:45] <jrib> !nounity | erkan^
[21:45] <soreau> erkan^: gnome-panel?
[21:45] <erkan^> yes
[21:45] <soreau> erkan^: I believe you have to install and run it
[21:45] <oremj> usr13: I figured out how to add gnome-terminal to my side bar, but I want a special launcher to run gnome-terminal -e "somecommand" --geometry=125x16+0+0
[21:45] <usr13> Raelith: .... which should show helpful info.
[21:45] <nicofs> soreau, how do i do that?
[21:45] <Raelith> no it didnt before i'll reboot and try quickly - i only saw the messages after the 3rd or 4th attempt when i disabled the splash and quiet modes in grub
[21:45] <erkan^> i will try, soreau
[21:46] <soreau> nicofs: Might have to enable it via xorg.conf
[21:46] <lazarus_> anyonw know of any blog management apps
[21:46] <lelebart_guest> jrib, yes, i can login - i'm logged in tty1
[21:46] <Raelith> usr13: i'll reboot and try both esc and ctrl alt f6
[21:46] <jrib> lelebart_guest: read your ~/.xsession-errors (or pastebinit if you want me to look)
[21:46] <erkan^> soreau, they said that is already installed gnome-panel
[21:46] <pdg12> werever: were you having issues with your network card?
[21:46] <usr13> oremj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[21:47] <brontosaurusrex> lazarus_, what do you mean?
[21:47] <erkan^> I can not click panel
[21:47] <soreau> erkan^: Try running it then
[21:47] <werever> usr13 lights are completely off
[21:47] <murple> Months ago I tried removing Unity and installing Gnome3 instead. Since that time I have not been able to successfully log into Ubuntu. I've tried removing/reinstalling various things and following various guides online to no avail. Could someone perhaps give me some pointers and adivse as to where to look and what I can do to get Ubuntu to boot?
[21:47] <erkan^>  gnome-panel
[21:47] <erkan^> Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running.
[21:47] <usr13> oremj: right click your desktop, select Create Launcher...
[21:47] <werever> pdg12 yes I am trying to get online trought command line using tty console to fix my ubuntu 11.10 installation
[21:48] <usr13> werever: Try another cable.
[21:48] <oremj> usr13: "Create Launcher" isn't in the right click menu
[21:48] <designbybeck> there is no way to change the icons smaller in unity? no Compiz settings installed by default?
[21:48] <werever> usr13 ok
[21:48] <mkultra> synaptic says i dont have gnome installed
[21:48] <designbybeck> Will things break if i try to install CCSM?
[21:48] <scarleo> How can I set different screen power off times for on battery vs plugged in in Oneiric?
[21:48] <usr13> oremj:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[21:48] <pdg1> werever: i'm having some similar issues... by chance it's not connecting to any wired connection? or are you trying to connect to wireless?
[21:48] <mkultra> no ccsm works
[21:49] <mkultra> so does fusion icon
[21:49] <Edisto> is there like a compiz for the gnome3 so you can edit its settings?
[21:49] <nicofs> soreau, sorry, don't know how...
[21:49] <Edisto> dont use ccsm!!! i just screwed my comp by just hitting preferences on it
[21:49] <designbybeck> so i should be able to edit unity bar/icon sizes in ccsm mkultra  ?
[21:49] <usr13> pdg1: He is wired and it's not lighting up when he plugs in cable, (at either end I assume).
[21:49] <Edisto> it took away the top menu bar and the unity bar and didnt come back when i even restarted
[21:49] <TimLoal> Got a problem:<<<  Just launched LibreOffice Writer for the first time, typed some stuff and made some spelling mistakes and although autospellcheck is enabled, it doesn't pull any up, even with a manual spell check   ?????
[21:49] <soreau> nicofs: You might have to read some dvb/v4l wiki's but you shouldn't have to build anything afaik
[21:49] <mkultra> that would be unity specific in its options
[21:49] <murple> Can anyone help me to boot into Ubuntu, I seem to have screwed things up.
[21:49] <soreau> nicofs: Everything should be there, you just have to load it and set it up properly
[21:50] <mkultra> lol @ this mess
[21:50] <usr13> murple: Won't boot?  What happens?
[21:50] <designbybeck> thanks mkultra , i just didn't want to break unity!
[21:50] <usr13> !grub2 | murple
[21:50] <mkultra> i would be more concerned about unity breaking the base system to be honest
[21:50] <murple> usr13: For the longest time it stalled after "Startin timidity ALSA emulation" or something similar
[21:51] <murple> usr13: I don't believe it has anything to do with Grub. It starts loading Ubuntu and all sorts of "components". Then stalls at some point.
[21:51] <nicofs> soreau, still confused - and by now i have missed even the program after the program i wanted to watch - so i might as well go to bed... and use windows next time... sometimes the effort is just not worth the benefit...
[21:51] <werever> pdg1 I am not tried to wireless yet, cause I am on coommand line only
[21:51] <murple> usr13: To try to fix it I ran sudo apt-get remove timidity
[21:51] <usr13> murple: Oh, so it does start to boot but stalls while "starting timiditly ALSA emulation"?
[21:51] <murple> usr13: So now it stalls after something different (I believe the last message has something to do with anachronistic cron or something...
[21:51] <soreau> nicofs: Never approach a computer thinking 'I will do this quickly' ;)
[21:51] <werever> one more try, guys, how can I enter recovery mode or repair mode on 11.10 I have a live cd, and I trying to repair my 11.10 main hd installation??
[21:52] <cau2> just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and first had to install gnome cause apparently "desktop system" no longer includes gnome,and now my system menu is gone and I can't right click my panel to edit my panels..the clock is in the center not where I want it..cant anyone help?
[21:52] <murple> usr13: Right, I'll reboot again to check where it stalls now, I've been trying at this for an hour now...
[21:52] <joshua__> Hey guys, I just installed a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10, and am having trouble getting my dual monitors up and running again.  (only one works)  I'm using an relatively new NVIDIA Graphics card.  Can anyone offer any advice?
[21:52] <nicofs> soreau, i started 2 hours before the program... and windows worked withind 20 minutes...
[21:53] <murple> usr13: It's an intel imac by the way, Ubuntu used to work fine until I followed a guide online on how to remove unity and install gnome 3
[21:53] <DeltaEpsilon> I like the new release so far
[21:53] <jmcs> hello, I've just upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 and now I can't login in my account in both Unity and Unity 2d but the guest account is working fine, is there any way I can find what's causing this?
[21:53] <mike9863> I just updated to 11.10 and I cannot login to my user. the error I get is "could not update ICEauthority file in /home/mike/.ICEauthority. Can anyone help? I can't access my system at all.
[21:53] <cau2> joshua__: I'd imagine the first step would be to go to the additional driver in the system settings and install the nvidia drivers, then just goto the monitors and turn the other one on
[21:53] <TimLoal> Got a problem:<<<  Just launched LibreOffice Writer for the first time, typed some stuff and made some spelling mistakes and although autospellcheck is enabled, it doesn't pull any up, even with a manual spell check   ?????     PM me if you can help
[21:53] <pdg1> werever: that's kinda what i was going to try aswell
[21:54] <Monsterwizard> can someone recommend me a good book for learning linux?
[21:54] <Monsterwizard> as a begineer?
[21:54] <cau2> jmcs: one possibility is that you do not have access to your home dir
[21:54] <jrib> mike9863: check permissions on that file (you can login at tty1 accessed by pressing ctrl-alt-f1; note you can return to X by pressing ctrl-alt-f7)
[21:54] <leftist> can you backout an upgrade?
[21:54] <sarkis_> hey guys anyone figure out how to fix sound on ubuntu 11.10 yet?
[21:54] <murple> usr13: Starting CUPS... starting postfix..., peech-dispatcher, pulseaudio configured for per-user sessions..., pache2, could not reliably determine the server's fully qalified domain name, using ::1 for servername, starting web server apache2, starting MySQL server [OK]. Then it's all black.
[21:54] <jrib> Monsterwizard: http://help.ubuntu.com
[21:54] <sarkis_> i have choppy sound coming out of my SoundBlaster X-Fi
[21:54] <jrib> leftist: how far are you?
[21:55] <leftist> i have not done anything yet i am just looking at the issues encountered so far
[21:55] <CromoZoneX> Does Ubuntu 11.10 support Optimus Technology on Laptops?
[21:55] <leftist> i am on 11.04 still
[21:55] <jrib> !downgrade | leftist
[21:55] <leftist> yeah most definately.
[21:55] <leftist> well let me just update and deal with what i have to deal with :D
[21:55] <leftist> here i go :D
[21:56] <mike9863> irib: it says that the directory doesn't exist
[21:56] <jmcs> cau2: I have the same permissions I had before, I can login and work in the virtual terminals just fine, I just can't login in unity
[21:56] <joshua__> cau2, I have already gone into Additional Drivers, originally the "NVIDIA Accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended]" Was installed and activated.  I tried activating the other one - "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version current-updates)", and it downloaded, installed, and activated (in favor of the recommended one) after a restart.  I still can't get the other monitor on.  How should I
[21:56] <joshua__> go about trying to activate the other monitor?
[21:56] <murple> usr13: Are you still with me? I posted the entire boot process above.
[21:56] <zakwilson> Why would gnome-settings-daemon be reading 2MB/s from my hard drive for minutes on end?
[21:56] <jrib> mike9863: what did you type?
[21:56] <mkultra> leftist, a bunch of stuffs broken on 11.10, go with 10.10
[21:56] <olmari> hello
[21:56] <zamba> where do i adjust the font settings in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:56] <usr13> murple: Was on the phone.  Let me see...
[21:56] <cau2> jmcs: well I know nothing about unity other than it sucks and is a really dumb idea
[21:57] <leftist> umm
[21:57] <leftist> mkultra i am already at 11.04
[21:57] <olmari> I think in 11.10 (server) /etc/network/interfaces is somehwo flaved... or infra around it
[21:57] <magn3ts> why is banshee so god awful? I use it, it freezes on close, every time. I delete all of it's settings, ONLY import my music, and it closes silently and keeps blaring my music with no way to stop it. This is absurd.
[21:57] <whitman> How do I remove the 'Evolution' entry in the notification area drop down after an upgrade from 11.04?
[21:57] <jer0652> 11.04 works fine but I have doubts for 11.10
[21:57] <murple> usr13: Thanks a lot, may suddenly dissapear if a baby nearby requires attention...
[21:57] <mike9863> cd /home/mike/.ICEauthority
[21:57] <olmari> I define eth1 and eth1:1 and only one of them gets really "be there"
[21:57] <magn3ts> jer0652, random statement?
[21:57] <mike9863> @jrib
[21:57] <olmari> ifconfig shows only one of them
[21:57] <olmari> no both
[21:57] <mkultra> leftist, leave it @ 11.04 4 your own good lol
[21:58] <cau2> joshua__: well normally you'd do that in the nvidia settings or monitor settings, but personally I'm having a LOT of issues here cause I didnt even know 11.10 was out much less that I was installing it just now..heh
[21:58] <jer0652> wel thoughts about upgrading to 11.10 vs 10.10
[21:58] <leftist> haha mkultra
[21:58] <olmari> but still if I command "ifup eth1:1" it says "already configured"
[21:58] <sarkis_> am i the only one experiencing really bad sound issues after upgrading to 11.10?
[21:58] <leftist> yeah i will just stick with this until i get another drive to replace in this laptop to play with.
[21:58] <mkultra> leave it @ 10.10 lol
[21:58] <joshua__> cau2, the "Detect Displays" button within the Display dialogue box doesn't do anything.
[21:58] <jrib> mike9863: try « ls -ld » instead of « cd »
[21:58] <leftist> haha
[21:58] <magn3ts> jer0652, why would you upgrade to 10.10?
[21:58] <magn3ts> what are you on now?
[21:58] <usr13> murple: Ctrl-Alt-F6   #Does that do anything?
[21:59] <cau2> joshua__: idk... cant even find that dialog myself.. cant help you further.. I'm a debian guy.. this release stuff before its stable is a nightmare to me
[21:59] <leftist> i suspect there are some microsoft programmers involved sabotaging the whole ubuntu effort like they did with Reactos.
[21:59] <HeGuru> olmari: why do you need eth1:1? If you need to add additional IP try "ip addr add " as that the now preferred method
[21:59] <jer0652> magn3ts: I'm on 11.04
[21:59] <murple> usr13: bring me to login, same as ctrl+alt+f3 I believe?
[21:59] <lauratika> cant change icons on 11.10 using gnome classic... using humanity icon set show only part of the icons changed...
[21:59] <usr13> murple: Are you in a day-care?
[21:59] <CromoZoneX>  Does Ubuntu 11.10 support Optimus Technology on Laptops?
[21:59] <mkultra> 11.04 isnt as broken as 11.10
[21:59] <olmari> HeGuru: for Tvix and ultimately for diffirent MTU for it...
[21:59] <murple> usr13: Haha, now, just a regular father.
[21:59] <leftist> yeah mkultra
[21:59] <murple> usr13: now=no.
[21:59] <usr13> murple: Good.  look at the output of  dmesg  for clues
[21:59] <olmari> HeGuru: but it's _broken_... it has been working until now
[21:59] <mike9863> jrib: oh I see it's a file. do you know what permissions it needs?
[21:59] <sarkis_> this shit is embarassing
[22:00] <jer0652> mmkultra: my point exactly
[22:00] <magn3ts> mkultra, what is broken in 10.10?
[22:00] <jrib> mike9863: which does it currently have?
[22:00] <magn3ts> mkultra, s/10.10/11.10/
[22:00] <olmari> HeGuru: there is even gazillion tutorials to do stuff just like that
[22:00] <uglyandstupid> hi all
[22:00] <magn3ts> mkultra, also, awesome nick.
[22:00] <JDog2pt0> Anybody run into it any user extension problem with gnome 3.2?
[22:00] <joshua__> cau2, I just typed monitor into the search box (top link on the shortcut bar to the left, and the clicked on the "Display" button.
[22:00] <mkultra> ty
[22:00] <murple> usr13: I'm a bit of a noob, I type dmesg and a mile long list flashes on the screen. The last last reads EXT4-FS (SDA2) remounted. Opts...
[22:00] <uglyandstupid> To install classic gnome should i install gnome-panel or gnome-session-fallback ?
[22:00] <BlueProtoman> Can anyone help me?  I've finally installed Ubuntu, and got it running, but after downloading a graphics driver and running sudo nvidia-xconfig my installation won't boot to the desktop; I can access a shell, but that's it.
[22:00] <mkultra> 10.10 just has package management issues and they are rare
[22:00] <murple> usr13: brb
[22:00] <joshua__> Does anyone know if there is a NVIDIA irc chat?
[22:01] <BlueProtoman> joshua__: Yes, #nvidia
[22:01] <cau2> CromoZoneX: that has nothing to do with ubuntu, near as I can tell its a function of the card and its driver.. if nvidia supports it so does any operating system that uses their driver
[22:01] <usr13> Opts... ?
[22:01] <joshua__> okay, thanks.
[22:01] <olmari> HeGuru: and even if "ip darr add", to where I specify it? to get it be at boot
[22:01] <Max229> How do I upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10 from command line?
[22:01] <mkultra> 11.10 has problems with experiemental xfce packages experimental compiz packages broken emerald
[22:01] <Raelith> hi usr13 none of those methods worked. still leaves me hanging
[22:01] <marw> any tips on how to stop X from locking  lightdm (or vice versa) to 100% core use?
[22:01] <MasterOfDisaster> Max229: do-release-upgrade
[22:01] <HeGuru> olmari: you can add it to /etc/network/interfaces in the main interface using "up ip addr add ..."
[22:01] <usr13> murple: dmesg | pastebinit
[22:01] <CromoZoneX> cau2, you see it's a problem, nvidia didn't released anu driver for linux based machines that supports optimus Technology
[22:02] <jer0652> I guess for the comments I made a good decision NOT to upgrade to 11.10
[22:02] <Edisto> disappearing unity bar is a new feature right?
[22:02] <olmari> HeGuru: mm well... I can try that
[22:02] <leftist> what is the command apt-get update install ?
[22:02] <mike9863> jrib: it says -rw------- 1 mike mike 19946 2011-10-14 09:25 /home/mike/.ICEauthority
[22:02] <cau2> joshua__: I already ditched unity its someones mentally challenged crackpot idea that died of lonliness.. and in gnome I can't get my system menu or edit any of the panel applets
[22:02] <leftist> i have not updated in over a month
[22:02] <leftist> or 2
[22:02] <cau2> CromoZoneX: then you already know the answer to your question
[22:02] <jrib> mike9863: try just renaming the file, it should get recreated
[22:02] <CromoZoneX> Too sad...
[22:02] <usr13> Raelith: Where are you at with it now?
[22:02] <pdg1> holy sweet stuff... i got it to work somehow
[22:03] <TimLoal> Man its sad.  I love Ubuntu, but i hate the ignorance of linux people.  I'm left as usual with the only option of RTFM, but i don't have a manual.  This is why xinux will never be mainstream, whcih is criminal on your part!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:03] <pdg1> but i can't connect to google... internal network works tho
[22:03] <Reaper> lol
[22:03] <cau2> CromoZoneX: sounds like a crock to me anyhow... like unplugging cell phone chargers to save the planet and the electric bill
[22:03] <murple> usr13: pastebinit is not installed and I can't install it at the moment since Ubuntu doesn't seem to have connected to my WIFI.
[22:03] <jrib> !ot | TimLoal
[22:03] <pdg1> TimLoal: you mad?
[22:03] <mkultra> TimLoal, whats ur problem?
[22:03] <leftist> sudo apt-get update
[22:03] <MasterOfDisaster> Upon reboot, resolv.conf is always empty, but the files in /etc/resolv.conf.d/ contain the appropriate details.
[22:03] <usr13> murple: iwconfig
[22:03] <Raelith> usr13: its just locks at the splash screen still and doesnt seem to recognise keyboard. none of the lock key lights light up
[22:04] <erkan^> I cannot click "panel add" , soreau )-:
[22:04] <Edisto> thats a damn shame i found what went wrong =D
[22:04] <murple> usr13: no wireless extensions
[22:04] <pdg1> werever: you get yours working yet?
[22:04] <soreau> erkan^: What do you mean?
[22:04] <erkan^> I want add panel, soreau
[22:04] <erkan^> for gnome classic
[22:04] <erkan^> but that is another
[22:04] <mkultra> lol @ ignorance of linux people, youve clearly never built linux from scratch, or delt with their devs
[22:04] <Edisto> some how the ubuntu unity plugin got disabled and it was unchecked in ccsm
[22:04] <usr13> I have to go next door for a few minutes.  Sorry, but I'll be back in 10min or so...
[22:04] <soreau> erkan^: You mean add another panel?
[22:04] <MasterOfDisaster> Running 'stop network-interface INTERFACE=<if> ; start network-interface INTERFACE=<if>' generates a working resolv.conf
[22:04] <cau2> CromoZoneX: in other words it does nothing, they're just selling you and idea.. a hippie tree hugging idea
[22:04] <erkan^> yes
[22:04] <CromoZoneX> Well, i guess i'm back to windows until nvidia will release linux based drivers for optimus technology
[22:05] <cau2> have fun with that
[22:05] <murple> usr13: How can I work with dmesg, I think that's where I should be looking to find the error......
[22:05] <aids_> hey
[22:05] <erkan^> example "mededelingen"
[22:05] <murple> usr13: okay....
[22:05] <erkan^> oeps
[22:05] <BlueProtoman> Can anyone help me?  I've finally installed Ubuntu, and got it running, but after downloading a graphics driver and running sudo nvidia-xconfig my installation won't boot to the desktop; I can access a shell, but that's it.  I'm given an activity log of various things, and one of them fails; Stopping automatic crash report generation.
[22:05] <erkan^> that is dutch word
[22:05] <MasterOfDisaster> BlueProtoman: nopaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:05] <TimLoal> mkultra i've just converted from 'other os's' loaded the default word processor and it dosent spell check!  LibreOffice Writer
[22:05] <cau2> and unplug your cell phone charger when not charging it too.. cause lord knows you don'twant something that cost $0.14 a month if it was actively charging 24/7 using 0.00001% of that much when you;'re not using it
[22:06] <marw> any tips on how to stop lightdm from using 100% cpu?
[22:06] <BlueProtoman> MasterOfDisaster: OK, hold on.
[22:06] <erkan^> exampel announcement
[22:06] <erkan^> *example :P
[22:06] <mkultra> TimLoal, alt + f2 run "gksu synaptic" search 4 and install gedit then search 4 and install gtkspell
[22:06] <mkultra> then gedits settings might need a "spell check" setting ticked but my gedit spell checks everything
[22:07] <cau2> ugh.. I'm seriously considering reinstalling 11.04 cause this is just making me mad... gnome panel is horridly broken
[22:07] <mkultra> gedit also supports code syntax highlighting
[22:07] <BlueProtoman> MasterOfDisaster: Nopaste is not installed.
[22:07] <jrib> cau2: are you sure it's not meant to be?
[22:07] <TimLoal> pdg1  why do you ask? dose it get lonely being mad my yourself?  I'm not mad i just know too much ;) it can seem mad to those with less info
[22:07] <mkultra> cau2,  xfce works well for 11.04 give it a try
[22:07] <magn3ts> who on god's green earth *wants* gnome-panel
[22:07] <cau2> jrib: meant to not be configurable and missing one of the menus?
[22:07] <mkultra> xfce pannel works on 11.10 even
[22:07] <cau2> mkultra: this isnt my computer and even if it was I dont like xfce and neither do the people who use it
[22:07] <pdg1> TimLoal: I'm trollin' :p
[22:07] <jrib> cau2: I remember reading that would be really limited.  No idea if that's what was decided
[22:08] <MasterOfDisaster> BlueProtoman: from the topic: "Pastes to http://goo.gl/ixcN9"
[22:08] <pdg1> that's all lol
[22:08] <cau2> they're used to gnome
[22:08] <mkultra> my xfce is prettier than gnome wants to be
[22:08] <cau2> this isnt a matter of prettier its a matter of being the same
[22:08] <BlueProtoman> MasterOfDisaster: I can't type all of that, and I can't paste it either, different computer.
[22:08] <mike9863> jrib: okay I renamed it but I'm still getting the same error when I try to login. no new .ICEauthority file was created
 disappearing unity bar is a new feature right?
[22:09] <danopia> rofl
[22:09] <jrib> mike9863: what's the full error?  Also check ~/.xsession-errors
[22:09] <brontosaurusrex> cau2, i think you would need to install gnome 2 series, not sure if its possible...
[22:09] <magn3ts> I'd love to know why global menu feels the need to hang out ALL THE TIME, even when unity isn't running.
[22:09] <magn3ts> That's a question I'm sure I won't get an answer to, toher than, it's a "feature".
[22:10] <BlueProtoman> MasterOfDisaster: The one line that gives me "fail" is starting automatic crash report generation.
[22:10] <mkultra> http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4010/darksideo.jpg < xfce = win
[22:10] <jpjacobs> Hi! Unity 3D stopped working after upgrade to Oneiric. But it does work for the guest account. How do I fix my config?
[22:10] <cau2> brontosaurusrex: if gnome 3 removed all functionality of the panel, they needto be shot, stabbed, burned at the stake, then peed on and forced to remove gnome-panel entirely and never allowed to program again
[22:10] <MasterOfDisaster> BlueProtoman: copy it to a usb stick and paste it from the host you're typing from...
[22:10] <magn3ts> mkultra, thats the most hideous thing I've ever seen
[22:10] <magn3ts> lol
[22:10] <TimLoal> mkultra: I press alt f2 do the search then it asks for my password and dose nothing
[22:10] <mike9863> jrib: The error I get is "could not update ICEauthority file in /home/mike/.ICEauthority
[22:10] <BlueProtoman> MasterOfDisaster: I don't know how.
[22:11] <BlueProtoman> I'm new to Linux.
[22:11] <MasterOfDisaster> BlueProtoman: -> query?
[22:11] <murple> usr13: Let me know when you get back. perhaps it would be easier to chat in private.
[22:11] <mkultra> gksu synaptic?
[22:11] <brontosaurusrex> cau2, thats one of the reasons i will stay away from ubuntu for a while (or other gnome3 distros...)
[22:11] <jrib> mike9863: can you pastebin ~/.xsession-errors?
[22:11] <BlueProtoman> MasterOfDisaster: query is not installed.  I'm just trying to be able to boot to the desktop.
[22:11] <TimLoal> pdg1 we don't need or want trolls round here, but if you want to fight it out in the bushes, i'll show you how big my club is ;)
[22:12] <cau2> brontosaurusrex: yeah well considering I just did an install a few days ago I didnt know I was installing this to begin with..
[22:12] <mkultra> TimLoal,  try alt + f2 "gnome-terminal" then sudo synaptic
[22:12] <jpjacobs> Unity simply does not start (or crashes instantly at logon) ...
[22:12] <cau2> brontosaurusrex: but nobody and I mean nobody wants panel applets they cant even move.. I got a f'n clock right in the middle and there are no controls to move it
[22:13] <VxQe> Is there a way to clear/disable recent items in unity/gnome3?
[22:13] <toman> hello guys, i really need your help. I need to change the movement key from alt in ubuntu 11.10 and i cant find where to do it. On older versions of ubuntu the menu i am looking for looked like that: http://bfo.com/blog/images/UbuntuWindowPref.png   Can anyone help me, please?
[22:13] <TimLoal> mkultra: it's found it but seems disabled, clicking dose nothing
[22:14] <brontosaurusrex> cau2, thats actually debatable imho, but probably more suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:14] <sako> anyone have a workaround yet for the sound issues in ubuntu?"
[22:14] <sako> 11.10
[22:14] <mkultra> sound?  my 11.10 sound works fine
[22:14] <cau2> I see nothing debatable about all this panel space (wasted space)
[22:14] <sako> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11299056
[22:15] <jrib> mike9863: also, what does « ls -ld / /home /home/mike » return?
[22:15] <cau2> or about removing countless features from something that worked just fine
[22:15] <brontosaurusrex> cau2, for me the easy way out would be to install docky and synapse and see if i can get used to the left dock ...
[22:15] <cau2> and having the nerve to call it the same name
[22:15] <MrHobo> hey, could anyone help me, basically I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10, now when i log into a ubuntu or gnome-shell session it takes about 40 seconds longer then it should, doesn't in KDE, looked in the logs and can see no problem there, made a new user and once again no problem, so must be something with my user :(
[22:15] <pmnull> hi
[22:16] <pmnull> can anyone tell me why this bash command has bad syntax as it keeps telling me
[22:16] <pmnull> cat /etc/snort/rules/icmp.rules alert icmp any any -> any any ( msg:"ICMP Packet"; sid:477; rev:3;)
[22:16] <cau2> I seriously want to physically harm someone if they think this is a good idea.. cause I just wasted 3 hours installing this just to have to remove ubuntu because I can't make it look or work anything like it was working to begin with
[22:16] <pmnull> its to do with the bracket apparantley
[22:16] <Kingsy> ok guys, I have just upgraded to 11.10 and it says I have no valid internet connections. It is a wired connection, however under edit connections -> Wired connections its blank
[22:16] <jrib> cau2: please stick to support in this channel
[22:17] <Kingsy> if I add my own then I can add it ok.. but ubuntu doesnt seem to want to use the new connection
[22:17] <TimLoal> mkultra is it possible i need to be in admin mode? not that i know what i'm talking about, but it seems like i dont have rights?
[22:17] <Kingsy> what am I doing wrong?
[22:17] <pmnull> neone help with that command syntax
[22:17] <mkultra> ubuntu is ultra ugly by default
[22:17] <DontKnwMuch> I have two interfaces, eth0 with 192.168.0.0/24 and eth1 which is IPTV from my provider, I need to add a route to make them both work at the same time... and I am lost...
[22:17] <cau2> I'm leaving this channel because there is no support going on..people are just telling me to use something else rahter than any constructive help on how to resolve the issue at hand
[22:17] <jrib> pmnull: umm, what's the command you are  typing?
[22:17] <SetiAmon> god what a disaster
[22:17] <toman> hello guys, i really need your help. I need to change the movement key from alt in ubuntu 11.10 and i cant find where to do it. On older versions of ubuntu the menu i am looking for looked like that: http://bfo.com/blog/images/UbuntuWindowPref.png   Can anyone help me, please?
[22:17] <mkultra> TimLoal gksu = gtk sudo....  terminal doesnt need elevated privileges
[22:17] <pmnull> cat /etc/snort/rules/icmp.rules alert icmp any any -> any any ( msg:"ICMP Packet"; sid:477; rev:3;)
[22:18] <toman> i really need your help
[22:18] <BlueProtoman> cau2: Ironic, isn't it?
[22:18] <SetiAmon> after all that time updating my system was a disaster so i had to download and install 11.10 fresh now i have other problems
[22:18] <cau2> BlueProtoman: heh, not really... I actually expected it..
[22:18] <TimLoal> cau2 there are people who can help but its a bussy channel
[22:18] <pmnull> from http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/08/snort-tutorial/
[22:18] <mkultra> many routes to the same path cau2, dont be stubborn
[22:18] <SetiAmon> Can someone here help me with unity bar showing up on the wrong monitor?it keeps showing up on my seconardy monitor instead of my primary monitor
[22:18] <jrib> cau2: I have no clue what your issue is.  I'm just seeing you rant, which isn't productive at all.  Not only does it mean you aren't getting a fresh set of eyes on your issue, it means you're also making it less likely that someone else gets help.  So please stop.  If you want help, just state your actual issue (on one line with relevant details in a pastebin)
[22:18] <BlueProtoman> cau2: Still ironic given that this is both an official support channel AND one for a theoretically amazing community.
[22:19] <binspace> is it possible to configure the workspace switcher in unity?
[22:19] <pmnull> less of the theoretically pls
[22:19] <binspace> or are we stuck with a 2x2 grid?
[22:19] <mkultra> large community, not amazing
[22:19] <jbarket> Anyone having trouble with Ubuntu Software Center after upgrading to 11.10? I click install, and it does nothing. Kind of changes Free to Installing for a microsecond, then nothing. No install, no error
[22:19] <jbarket> binspace, install the compiz settings manager and you can change it. i do 1x4 personally
[22:19] <VxQe> Mine works.
[22:19] <mkultra> and yeah im stuck with 2x2 grid on xfce but not on gnome / ubuntu
[22:19] <olmari> HeGuru: hmm... I think it is even done as is !
[22:19] <Vegar> I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10, and now everything is broken
[22:19] <pmnull> theoretically amazing is a contradiction in existential realities
[22:19] <SetiAmon> I really don't like Unity so far its very cumbersome,ineffecient,how is gnome 3 compared to gnome 2?
[22:19] <binspace> jbarket: Thank you!
[22:19] <Vegar> WIFI doesn't work, I am "Not authorized" to mount USB devices
[22:19] <pmnull> bad syntax pls
[22:19] <olmari> HeGuru: ip route shows it, while ifconfig doesn't
[22:19] <mkultra> right click window manager and select 4 x 1
[22:19] <jrib> !nounity | SetiAmon
[22:20] <Vegar> what can I do?
[22:20] <SetiAmon> Vegar:yeah same i had to do a fresh install.still problems
[22:20] <pmnull> come on come on
[22:20] <olmari> HeGuru: I mean by setting it in /e/n/interfaces
[22:20] <Vegar> ubuntu has really failed this time
[22:20] <mike9863> jrib: http://pastebin.com/8EHKWvj8
[22:20] <SetiAmon> Thanks jrib
[22:20] <joshua__> Does anyone here know if Ubuntu 11.10 supports my graphics card?  I ran lspci -v and this is the output for the graphics card: http://pastebin.com/hkJZZnXG
[22:20] <pmnull> do u work for windows
[22:20] <Vegar> SetiAmon: it seems like policykit is broken somehow
[22:20] <jrib> pmnull: that tutorial has commands preceded by #.  The line you see after it is the output the person received from the command.
[22:20] <cau2> BlueProtoman: yeah well I've been using and supporting debian on freenode for over 12 years... and hating ubuntu for about 5 or so I guess.. but I've been realizing it is a bit more easy for new and stupid people,so I've been trying to embrace it.. but not having much luck as things are always horridly broken and nobody knows how to fix things that arent dead simple
[22:20] <pmnull> oh
[22:20] <pmnull> ha
[22:20] <pmnull> sorry
[22:20] <pmnull> im an idiot
[22:20] <pmnull> ta
[22:20] <FloodBot1> pmnull: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:20] <jrib> pmnull: :)
[22:20] <cau2> here is a simple question then, is ubuntu 11.10 actually using gnome 3.0?
[22:20] <joshua__> Supports dual monitors for my graphics card, that is.
[22:21] <olmari> HeGuru: I'd only then hope someday this method would show alias IP on ifconfig too somewhere .. :/
[22:21] <pmnull> ta ta
[22:21] <jrib> cau2: gnome 3 with unity as the shell
[22:21] <TimLoal> mkultra ok.  hmm.  I'm a BUSY professional, which is why i want a decent OS, but no spellcheck out of the box and neeing to install other bits to get something to work that should from the get go, is ruff.  If i was one of the 80% of computer users who know diddely squat about computers i'd have rebooted back to windows by now
[22:21] <jrib> mike9863: also, what does « ls -ld / /home /home/mike » return?
[22:21] <werever> how can I enter recovery mode or grub2 on 11.10, pressing shift isnt working
[22:21] <cau2> cause if thats the case I have two options, reinstall with natty, or wait a few days and hope these issues can be fixed by upgrade
[22:21] <HeGuru> olmari: ip addr should show you all IPs
[22:21] <MrHobo> hmmm anyone? :(, i find ubuntu more difficult then gentoo sometimes :p
[22:21] <mike9863> also / and /home say 25 root and 4 root. and /home/mike says 85 mike
[22:21] <mike9863> @jrib
[22:21] <cau2> jrib: I did ap[t-get install gnome and logged in using ubuntu classic, so there is no unity involved that I'm aware of
[22:21] <olmari> HeGuru: sure it does... but it's not the same...
[22:22] <jrib> mike9863: can you pastebin full output?
[22:22] <SetiAmon> Can someone tell me why unity is supposed to be more "efficient" it seems like it makes everything 1000X slower and inefficient compared to gnome2
[22:22] <magn3ts> Can someone tell me what the purpose is of the terminal dialog box in the ubuntu instaler?
[22:22] <TimLoal> is there a distro that i can get that has all this done?  mkultra or anyone
[22:22] <magn3ts> It's two lines tall.
[22:22] <mike9863> jrib: it's difficult because I'm on my phone.
[22:22] <mkultra> TimLoal, aspell my bad....
[22:22] <magn3ts> It's the most useless UI element I've possibly every seen.
[22:22] <jrib> TimLoal: what is "all this"?
[22:22] <cau2> not that I will really know if there are updates because I have no notification area, no system menu.. nothing on this panel.. ugh..
[22:22] <mkultra> was gtkspell on my hand built linux distro ;-)
[22:23]  * cau2 wanders off and contemplates resintalling with natty
[22:23] <jrib> cau2: honestly, I would suggest trying xfce if you don't like gnome-shell or unity
[22:23] <mkultra> you also need to install a language specific dictionary
[22:23] <jrib> cau2: as someone said the other day, xfce is the new gnome 2
[22:23] <fhtagn> so "Ubuntu 2D" is "Unity 2D" =(
[22:23] <brontosaurusrex> TimLoal, what exactly do you need?
[22:23] <cau2> jrib: well I will kep that in mind.. but this isnt my decision.. its not my computer..
[22:24] <TimLoal> mkultra can you run me the full command again as this channel flows fast and my irc client isn't the best
[22:24] <mkultra> ill pm
[22:24] <usr13> SetiAmon: Maybe you are confusing efficiency with resource conservation.  If you want to conserve resources, try xfce4
[22:24] <jrib> mike9863: what's the first column then?  The "rwx stuff"
[22:24] <cau2> jrib: and the only issue here is that the panel is screwed up and I cant move the clock to the left where it belongs and there is no system menu next to places to access the preferences and stuff
[22:24] <usr13> I'm back
[22:24] <cau2> near as I can tell you'd have to be completely illiterate and mentally challenged to have intentially removed these features
[22:25]  * cau2 notes his spelling and laughs
[22:25] <TimLoal> brontosaurusrex jrb all this is an ubunto equilivent of windows with office(with all the usual bits already installed)
[22:25] <mike9863> jrib: each one says drwxr-xr-x
[22:26] <brontosaurusrex> TimLoal, what are the usual bits?
[22:26] <mkultra> TimLoal, sudo apt-get install aspell aspell-en
[22:26] <jrib> cau2: try holding alt or super (not sure) and right click on the panel.  Does that do anything?
[22:26] <mkultra> if ru spek engrish
[22:26] <jrib> mike9863: what's the output of « mount » for the partition your /home is on?
[22:26] <lelebart> hi, i cannot logged in after upgrading to 11.10 to 11.04, this solved for me. hth. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-11-10-cannot-login-and-cannot-shut-down-907558/#post4498410
[22:26] <SetiAmon> usr13:opposite,I thought it would utilize more of my 3D card but frankly,its unimpressive.Were is the 3D with unity? what are the effects?and no gnome 2 was much more effeicient and customizable this unity thing reminds me of KDE were i have to treck threw menu's makes everything much slower.oh well its just a UI i'll get rid of it
[22:26] <jrib> mike9863: actually scratch that; we've already ruled that out
[22:26] <lelebart> *from 11.04 ^^'
[22:27] <mkultra> lelebart, alt + f2 run "gksu halt" no "" marks ;-)
[22:27] <tango> sorry for help in italian lenguage?
[22:27] <mkultra> tango, use translate.google.com
[22:27] <garth> since my last update when I close Firefox then try to open it again it give me an error saying firefox is running. Has anyone else had this happen.
[22:27] <epkugelmass> Unity systray issue: using the whitelist ['all'] and restarting does nothing
[22:27] <mkultra> garth i have a tutorial 4 that
[22:28] <mkultra> garth, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1836890
[22:29] <werever> where is recovery mode on 11.10 ?
[22:29] <MrHobo> never mind, fixed my own problem :D, deleted .gnome2, .conf and .gconfd and now it logs in straight away
[22:29] <kezzawd>  Hi
[22:29] <garth> ukutra thank you will give it a llok.
[22:29] <mkultra> its buried in that thread garth....
[22:30] <jrib> mike9863: I don't know.  It doesn't seem to be a permissions issue
[22:30] <jrib> mike9863: see if the issue persists on a new user account
[22:30] <SetiAmon> Before i ditch unity can someone tell me were is the effects in this thing?I mean what does it do that required installing my drivers?i can't tell the difference between it and unity 2D
[22:30] <keith-linux1122> is their anyway to tone down the visual effects in Unity
[22:30] <SetiAmon> keith-linux1122: What effects?
[22:30] <mike9863> jrib: how can I make a new user account through CLI?
[22:30] <keith-linux1122> like windows fading in and out
[22:31] <jax> keith-linux1122 - install compwiz settings manager
[22:31] <SetiAmon> I don't see any compiz style effects or anything like compiz
[22:31] <keith-linux1122> thanks
[22:31] <jrib> mike9863: sudo adduser USERNAME
[22:31] <SetiAmon> hmm weird i don't have that
[22:31] <epkugelmass> When I click on the indicators, they don't stay open. Any reason why?
[22:31] <qmanjr5> How do I check which display driver I'm currently using?
[22:31] <epkugelmass> All I did was turn off click to focus.
[22:31] <SetiAmon> additional drivers
[22:31] <qmanjr5> where at, SetiAmon ?
[22:31] <usr13> qmanjr5: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:31] <qmanjr5> Oh :P
[22:31] <keith-linux1122> thanks
[22:32] <SetiAmon> hah you have to go to dash and type it in.thats were i installedm y nvidia drivers.also check display
[22:32] <louis__> hey guys i just installed 11.10 it is works great very nice improvements :)
[22:33] <mike9863> jrib: Same issue. also I've noticed that the login screen looks like the one from 11.04 and not the new one I've seen previews of. could these issues be related?
[22:33] <qmanjr5> 11.10 has a new login screen?
[22:33] <berglund> Yep
[22:33] <frigo> i feel i shouldnt have upgraded ubuntu to 11.10
[22:33] <qmanjr5> :O
[22:33] <frigo> its ruining my life
[22:33] <louis__> yeah it has new login screen
[22:33] <berglund> frigo, why is that?
[22:34] <qmanjr5> YOU'RE RUINING *MY* LIFE, FRIGO!
[22:34] <jrib> mike9863: hmm, interesting that a fresh new user.  I have to go now though
[22:34] <frigo> at frist it wouldnt want to boot the window manager, i upgraded packadges and now i have the gui buts its super slow
[22:34] <mike9863> jrib: okay thanks for your help
[22:34] <werever> help plz, at starting ubuntu 11.10 its freezing andI have no GUI
[22:35] <cordoval> UID of script "/usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php" is smaller than min_uid
[22:35] <cordoval> I am getting this hmm
[22:35] <bbigras__> My trackpad just stopped working. Should I report a bug against the 'xserver-xorg-input-synaptics' package or 'gnome-settings-daemon'?
[22:35] <cordoval> after ubuntu upgrade
[22:35] <SetiAmon> everything "fails to install" on this darn thing afk
[22:35] <frigo> werever: does it hang at checking battery state ?
[22:35] <whitman> Is there any way to keep the global app menu visible rather than just on hover?
[22:35] <werever> frigo! yes!!
[22:35] <frigo> werever: i had/has the same problem
[22:35] <werever> frigo! uuuuuu I thought you have the solution! hehehehee
[22:35] <louis__> setiamon did you upgrade? i have the same issue first but after upgrade all good
[22:36] <frigo> werever: i fixed it by uprading packages and running dpkg
[22:36] <frigo> werever: but then it made the computer super slow
[22:36] <frigo> i dont understand
[22:37] <fhtagn> wtf happened to right click context menu? (just upgraded to 11.10, ditched 'Ubuntu 2D' aka 'Unity 2D' and trying 'GNOME Classic' aka GNOME3)
[22:37] <vyshay> i have a thinkpad with a WiFi Link 5300 wireless adaptor.  afer upgrading, network connection over wireless is dramatically slower, like 95 percent slower.  what am i doing wrong ?
[22:38] <mike9863> Can anyone else assist me? I just upgraded to 11.10 and when I try to login it gives me an error that states: "could not update .ICEauthority file /home/mike/.ICEauthority. Also the login screen is the old one from 11.04 instead of the new one.
[22:38] <magn3ts> no offense, but how was so little testing done with ubuntu software center that no one caught it is unable to even open the chromium.debs?
[22:38] <fhtagn> i can't edit the menubar on top.. /facepalm
[22:38] <escott> fhtagn, gnome classic is not gnome 3 there is a gnome 3 fallback mode which looks like old gnome 2 but is very different under the hood
[22:39] <escott> mike9863, to get the new login screen you would need to install lightdm, you are likely using gdm. check the permissions on your .ICEauthority file
[22:39] <fhtagn> gnome 3 fallback was dubbed GNOME Classic, i believe, no?
[22:39] <fhtagn> (I am just using the name I read upon the login screen)
[22:40] <escott> fhtagn, it might be called classic but its not the same classic as the 11.04 classic
[22:40] <louis__> gnome 3 is ok just needs more config UI... I guess
[22:41] <fhtagn> yeah, trying to find what I can change...
[22:41] <jax> I personally prefer 10.10 with docky
[22:41] <mike9863> escott: I tried making the permissions 777 and I still get the error.
[22:42] <oneunder> I am having an odd problem with running applications.  I just upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04.  My issue can be found here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/lc2r3/odd_wine_issue_after_upgrade/
[22:42] <oneunder> Help would be much appreciated.  Thank you.
[22:42] <magn3ts> mike9863, are you the owner of the file?
[22:42] <magn3ts> also, I'm not sure making it 777 is the best course of action
[22:42] <epkugelmass> I simply cannot get the systray to ever show anything, even with the whitelist!
[22:43] <TimLoal> how do i get out of a ctrl+alt+f2 text command prompt?
[22:43] <escott> mike9863, who owns the file?
[22:43] <oneunder> ctrl alt f7
[22:43] <emorris> TimLoal, Alt+F7
[22:44] <mike9863> magn3ts: yes
[22:44] <TimLoal> top marks @ oneunder and emorris :)
[22:44] <magn3ts> in place upgrades
[22:44] <magn3ts> dont know why ppl do them
[22:45] <mguy> TimLoal: those are called 'virtual consoles'
[22:45] <bobert> hi there, I was wondering if there's a quick way to determine what version of ubuntu is on a bootable usb drive, without booting it
[22:45] <SetiAmon> ah Gnome-shell SOoooOOoo much better then unity
[22:45] <quentin_> So uh. I just activated the latest nVidia driver in Additional Drivers...a.nd when I rebooted and logged in.....the toolbar thing wasn't work. I couldn't click on anything. Now I'm in the recovery concole on IRSSI, 'cause I can't do anything else.
[22:45] <quentin_> Help?
[22:45] <oneunder> magn3ts, I now agree with that.
[22:45] <magn3ts> ubuntu now ships without a way to modify metacity theme, gtk+ theme, cursor theme, icon theme, font size, font family.
[22:45] <magn3ts> fantastic.
[22:45] <mguy> quentin_: Remove what you just did
[22:45] <quentin_> how?
[22:45] <PunkUnity> i am currently updating to 11.10 and have a question or 2
[22:46] <SetiAmon> quentin_: Hmm when i activated my drivers unity and everythinf displayed on the wrong screen.now i just installed Gnome-shell and everything is working fine
[22:46] <magn3ts> and the only tool to do so isn't even in the friggin repos.
[22:46] <StevenW> Is this the right channel to ask questions about the 11.10 update?
[22:46] <jax> stevenW: yes
[22:46] <mguy> quentin_: Find it with 'dpkg --get-selections' and removei t
[22:46] <TimLoal> mguy its a prompt, don;t expect me to know your mothers middle name when i've only just met you!
[22:47] <mguy> quentin_: you might want to put a 'grep nvidia' or something after that
[22:47] <StevenW> Cool. My issue is that syntax highlighting language specs I added to gedit are no longer working.
[22:47] <quentin_> Alright
[22:47] <kurt-usa> I havent done any interactive shell scripting in a while, but i have the need now. It seems like last time i used "expect", but noticed its not installed by default on ubuntu. is there a more popular way to do interactive scripts?
[22:47] <PunkUnity> i am wondering when it says some third party packages will be removed
[22:47] <mguy> TimLoal: Hey, the first time hit that key on accident I thought I logged otu!
[22:47] <PunkUnity> during the 11.10 upgrade from .04
[22:48] <PunkUnity> is that like medibuntu?
[22:48] <beingjohnm> I've got the latest nvidia driver enabled. Does anybody else have a problem with the workspace switcher? On my second screen it leaves artifacts when it zooms and I can't click on it. Works fine on my primary screen.
[22:48] <PunkUnity> or all of the ones i have like my themes and such?
[22:48] <c_smith> hey, I'm having problems compiling gtkpod 2.1.0 from source (need to for m4v support), it stops with an error in make, the error is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708259/
[22:48] <bobert> nvm answered my own question
[22:48] <louis__> someone knows how to change fonts, colors in gnome 3? is it needs extension or... ?
[22:49] <kcj> c_smith, Did ./configure give any errors?
[22:50] <jax> stevenw: are the specs still in /usr/share/gtksourceview-2.0/language-specs/
[22:51] <StevenW> jax: yes
[22:51] <alcy> folks, I just did an upgrade to 11.10 on a thinkpad x200, and the boot process seems to hang at a msg : 'ext 4 remount...'
[22:51] <jax> hmmm
[22:51] <c_smith> kcj, no, ./configure gave no errors, it's make I'm having problems with.
[22:51] <StevenW> jax: this is what I am missing, to be specific: http://www.jpfleury.net/logiciels/gedit-mediawiki.php
[22:51] <c_smith> can't go onto sudo make install without make succeeding.
[22:52] <TimLoal> mguy is this the Ubunto that is : "Super-fast, easy to use", "Ubuntu does everything you need it to" ?
[22:53] <mkultra> i wrote that for ubuntu 10.10, 11.10 dont like it
[22:53] <PunkUnity> please link em to the more general chat for the ubuntu chan someone
[22:53] <kcj> c_smith, I'll try it myself and see what happens.
[22:53] <epkugelmass> Anyone know anything about getting the systray to work in unity?
[22:53] <TimLoal> well i need it to not waste my presious time/life solving stuff that i need to solve real problems, to get paid!
[22:53] <jax> stevenw: I wonder if your config file is screwed - have u tried renaming it to test?
[22:54] <vyshay> anyone eelse notice their intel wireless now sucks in most recent ubuntu?
[22:54] <c_smith> I'll try that.
[22:54] <SetiAmon> Compiz on gnome Shell.No wobbly windows?
[22:54] <fhtagn> (and I can't believe there is no 'leave a message' at the lockscreen) =(
[22:54] <TimLoal> vyshay: how can i get an older ubuntu, it seems like this one is imature
[22:55] <qmanjr5> Phew, I got it workin' again.
[22:55] <kcj> c_smith, Download link?
[22:55] <mkultra> ok timloal i fixed my systems spell check....
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> TimLoal: oldreleases.com
[22:55] <qmanjr5> Is there a way to get like, desktop widgets?
[22:55] <c_smith> kcj, for gtkpod version I have?
[22:55] <saml> hey, how can I change dm?   instead of gdm, i want to use lxdm
[22:55] <qmanjr5> For like, weather and the time and such?
[22:55] <kcj> c_smith, Yes.
[22:55] <saml> is there a command for chaning default dm?
[22:55] <jax> vyshay: My Intel wireless is fine in 11.10
[22:55] <c_smith> sec
[22:55] <mike9863> magn3ts: mike owns the file
[22:55] <vyshay> mine is significantly slower.  it makes me sd
[22:55] <vyshay> sad
[22:55] <mguy> vyshay: sucks as it doesn't show up or is really slow
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> TimLoal: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[22:56] <vyshay> realyl slow
[22:56] <SetiAmon> Hey question
[22:56] <Lasers> Hey answer
[22:56] <magn3ts> mike9863, and that is the user you are right now, right? type "whoami" to make sure.
[22:56] <vyshay> it was definitely much faster in previous version
[22:56] <c_smith> kcj, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtkpod/files/gtkpod/gtkpod-2.1.0/gtkpod-2.1.0.tar.gz/download?source=files
[22:56] <mkultra> TimLoal,  gedit edit prefrences then plugins then install spell check.....  then go to TOOLS and select highlight spelling errors
[22:56] <zaapiel> fuck unity
[22:56] <zaapiel> whos with me?
[22:56] <mkultra> me
[22:56] <mkultra> fuck unity
[22:56] <zaapiel> right on
[22:56] <SetiAmon> I installed Compiz settlings manager and enabled wobbly windows and ZOOM but they are not working? can someone inform me how to get effects working?
[22:56] <n-iCe> what's the name of the package to configurate all the compiz effects?
[22:56] <SetiAmon> I agree
[22:56] <zaapiel> occupy #ubuntu till they change it
[22:56] <SetiAmon> Unity is trash
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> !language
[22:56] <n-iCe> Host 'nice-VGN-CS170FJ', running Linux 3.0.0-12-generic-pae - Cpu0: Intel 800 MHz Cpu1: Intel 800 MHz; Up: 14 min; Users: 2; Load: 0.15; Free: [Mem: 1044/3893 Mio] [Swap: 3962/3962 Mio] [/: 277662/296554 Mio] [/media/Torroella: 266/969 Mio]; Vpenis: 219.3 cm;
[22:56] <mike9863> magn3ts: yes
[22:56] <PunkUnity> i like unity
[22:57] <jax> vyshay: what intel wireless do you have? Mine is  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG - seems fine
[22:57] <zaapiel> i hate unity
[22:57] <zaapiel> i am the 99%
[22:57] <n-iCe> I can get used to Unity
[22:57] <magn3ts> hahaha
[22:57] <n-iCe> what's the name of the package to configurate all the compiz effects?
[22:57] <SetiAmon> gnome Shell is good so far except compiz effects are not working
[22:57] <MrHobo> PunkUnity, it should be just medibuntu and the like :), however with the switch to gtk3 I don't expect a lot of your themes will work anyway :(
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> SetiAmon: i use kde or linux mint, because i don't like unity, no reason to rant
[22:57] <SetiAmon> ccsm n-iCe but i just installed it and tried it
[22:57] <magn3ts> n-iCe, compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:57] <n-iCe> thanks magn3ts
[22:57] <magn3ts> SetiAmon, yeah... uh, gnome-shell doesn't use unity lol
[22:57] <PunkUnity> MrHobo what is the link for the other chat?
[22:57] <MrHobo> PunkUnity, and also some that are just not used by the system, should give a list to look through
[22:58] <vyshay> jax: I have WiFi Link 5300 wireless adaptor
[22:58] <MHz> I have just installed the 11.10 hoping my nVidia card will work properly and still even after the non-free drivers >>> gives me VERY low resolution, Help Please!
[22:58] <lunitik> SetiAmon: Gnome-shell uses mutter not compiz
[22:58] <garth> mkultra must be doing something wrong could not find the thread you posted
[22:58] <SetiAmon> mutter ? never heard of it how do i access that configuration for mutter
[22:58] <anom> n-iCe: Ubuntu Tweak also lets you make wobbly windows
[22:58] <magn3ts> SetiAmon, you don't.
[22:58] <PunkUnity> dont remember what gtk3 is really but i am guessing there are themes for it
[22:58] <lunitik> unity and compiz are not the same thing though... unity is a shell that happens to use the window manager compiz
[22:59] <SetiAmon> magn3ts:  then how do i get ZOOM or such?
[22:59] <jax> To be honest I'm sticking with 10.10 and Docky.
[22:59] <magn3ts> SetiAmon, yeah, you don't.
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> freedom also means: freedom to not use something you don't like
[22:59] <n-iCe> anom: I was looking for compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:59] <n-iCe> thanks
[22:59] <MrHobo> PunkUnity, there are a few :), not many yet though :(
[22:59] <alcy> folks, just upgraded to 11.10 on a thinkpad x200, and the boot process hangs at 'ext 4 remount...', any clue how to fix this ?
[22:59] <n-iCe> don't you think guys Unity is pretty much like ios ?
[22:59] <forceflow> anybody using screen/byobu on 11.10?
[22:59] <SetiAmon> magn3ts: I'm sure there has to be a way to get such effects they are too essential.
[22:59] <PunkUnity> not a big deal, i just like my Dawn theme
[22:59] <MrHobo> ..I like unity on this release actually
[22:59] <MHz> anyone can help me with my NVidia and the 11.10, show low resolution even after the drivers installed
[22:59] <lunitik> SetiAmon: dconf-editor I think has some... mutter is metacity ported to clutter, metacity is what the fall ball window manager was in older version of ubuntu
[23:00] <forceflow> When using irssi in screen/byobu on 11.10, it seems the status bar that byobu places gets repeated several times on screen - which is annoying.
[23:00] <mkultra> garth what thread did you need?
[23:00] <llama-linux> I'm using tmux and i3 right now, should I go to Tiling Anonymous?
[23:00] <magn3ts> SetiAmon, they don't exist, they haven't been built for mutter.
[23:00] <PunkUnity> i pretty much just like screwing with my computer costantly and changing and experiment\
[23:00] <lunitik> SetiAmon: Gnome really doesn't like customizations though...
[23:00] <MHz> any guide or text as I have looked and they did not help me that much really :(
[23:00] <jax> Mhz: sorry, I haven't tested with nvidia yet
[23:00] <PunkUnity> anyone can tell me what the channel is called for the regular general chat for ubutnu?
[23:00] <magn3ts> Just like I can't tweak the GTK color preferences anymore.
[23:00] <magn3ts> It's GNOME2 and feature-removal all over again.
[23:00] <emorris> PunkUnity, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:00] <PunkUnity> ohhhh, derrr
[23:00] <PunkUnity> lol ty
[23:00] <oneunder> I am having problems executing programs.  The program is installed, will auto complete, whereis finds it, but when I go to run it, I get "No such file or directory"
[23:01] <emorris> PunkUnity, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList :-)
[23:01] <oneunder> any one have any thoughts?
[23:01] <oneunder> this happens with Ubuntu installed via Synaptic and packages I have installed from a script
[23:01] <garth> mkultra you say thread 1836890 had init how to correct firefox not shuting down when closed
[23:01] <lunitik> oneunder: is it in your PATH?
[23:01] <mkultra> ok ill post the exact thread
[23:01] <magn3ts> Wow. And Ctrl+T on your desktop wrecks it.
[23:01] <n-iCe> anyone knows the name of the window effect that you move the mouse to a corner and all thr windows goes small and you can select any?
[23:01] <c_smith> kcj, need any more info?
[23:01] <PunkUnity> ty very much emorris i will book that
[23:01] <magn3ts> Just... amazing.
[23:01] <mkultra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11226932
[23:01] <magn3ts> The things that are wrong here aren't even bugs. They're just ignored glaring problems.
[23:01] <kcj> c_smith, Nope, playing with it now.
[23:02] <anom> Where's the restart button in 11.10?
[23:02] <MHz> oneunder, have you added the path to your environment?
[23:02] <jax> I would recommend a clean install to 11.10 - not an upgrade
[23:02] <famgod> is there a tool for mutter like the compiz-settings manager?  cuz when I run mutter the only effect I can see is when minimizing/opening a window
[23:02] <magn3ts> Hey guys. Go to your desktop and hit "CTRL+T"
[23:02] <oneunder> doesn't matter I guess. I can be in the directory.  Say, Wine for instance.  When I run Wine, I get that error.  If I go to the usr/local/bin, and run it from there, it still does not work.
[23:02] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:02] <jax> anom: under shutdown
[23:02] <c_smith> ok
[23:02] <mkultra> it installs a script and the command the script installs is "killfirefox"
[23:02] <n-iCe> anyone knows the name of the window effect that you move the mouse to a corner and all thr windows goes small and you can select any?
[23:02] <oneunder> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/lc2r3/odd_wine_issue_after_upgrade/
[23:02] <lunitik> magn3ts: do you want to tell people what it does first?
[23:02] <mkultra> or killseamonkey
[23:03] <oneunder> some more information
[23:03] <magn3ts> lunitik, I wish I knew what this is.
[23:03] <SoobNauce> Update manager wants me to go to package manager to fix lilypad, but package manager says dpkg broke.  How screwed am I, and how would I go about fixing this?
[23:03] <MHz> oneunder, does not work with the same error?
[23:03] <oneunder> yup.
[23:03] <SoobNauce> I don't even use lilypad :(
[23:03] <MeQuerSat> This is the first release of Ubuntu that actually runs very nicely on my (new) laptop
[23:03] <josefig> where does the alt+f2 look for ? I mean If I try alt+f2 "gvim" doesn't work, but If I try on console works, where is the directory ?
[23:03] <MeQuerSat> Props to the devs ;)
[23:03] <mike9863> I just upgraded to 11.10 and when I try to login it gives me an error that states: "Could not update .ICEauthority file /home/mike/.ICEauthority"
[23:03] <Lasers> mkultra: Why can't you use "killall firefox" -- It seems to be much easier than downloading a script?
[23:03] <mkultra> its a kill -9
[23:03] <MHz> that' weired, sorry o_O
[23:04] <garth> mkultra thank you just what I needed
[23:04] <mkultra> kill -9 echo ps ax | grep proc number style command or something similar
[23:04] <bthornton> hey e'eryone, I'm trying to upgrade from 11.04 --> 11.10 and am getting about a ~200 kB/s download (on a 16 Mbit connection). Is it possible to choose a different mirror when upgrading with the upgrader? (It never asked me which mirror...)
[23:04] <oneunder> Yea, its really weird.   Not really that happy about it, but that is what I get for doing a unplace upgrade.
[23:04] <qmanjr5> Is there a way to add a folder to the sidebar?
[23:04] <TimLoal> mkultra thanks, i've shut down my ubuntu laptop.  I'll check it out in the PM.  Thanks for your support!
[23:04] <mkultra> ubuntu noobs dont know wtf ps aux is let alone kill process flags ;-)
[23:04] <emorris> mkultra, that script kills (not terminates gracefully) any process with 'firefox' anywhere in its name, not just firefox!
[23:04] <SoobNauce> uh, what ctrl+T do?
[23:04] <mkultra> correct emorris
[23:05] <almoxarife> mkultra: that a question?
[23:05] <SoobNauce> does*
[23:05] <SoobNauce> or did*
[23:05] <MHz> Anyone running ubuntu with nVidia?
[23:05] <oneunder> I aM
[23:05] <oneunder> am
[23:05] <MHz> nVidia GFX?
[23:05] <emorris> mkultra, what about a process which has the word firefox in its name, but isn't firefox?
[23:05] <mkultra> no i have no questions, i am linux god
[23:05] <MHz> oneunder, good how is the resolution?
[23:05] <TimLoal> mkultra lol
[23:05] <mkultra> emorris it should change its name
[23:06] <llama-linux> anyone know how to change your wallpaper in i3?
[23:06] <SetiAmon> back
[23:06] <oneunder> Its a GTX260, running dual monitors at 1280x1024
[23:06] <emorris> mkultra, and what's wrong with killall -9 firefox ?
[23:06] <oneunder> so, good....i guess
[23:06] <SetiAmon> So anyhow. there are no settings in gnome3? no graphical effects yet? NO Desktop ZOOM?
[23:06] <mkultra> killall -9 is new to me, its not distro agnostic
[23:07] <MrHobo> MHz, running on a 9400m here on my mbp, 1440x900 :D
[23:07] <MHz> oneunder, why mine runs only with 680x840 with the drivers and does not get that resolution? :'(
[23:07] <qmanjr5> Is there a way to add a folder to the sidebar?
[23:07] <emorris> mkultra, it's in practically every linux distro
[23:07] <mkultra> a linux from scratch distro user could install that firefox kill script
[23:07] <MHz> MrHobo, oneunder I am running with N550-Ti
[23:07] <oneunder> And you are changing the resultion using the nvidia-settings, and running that as root??
[23:07] <lunitik> mkultra: ctrl+t is nautilus shortcut for new tab...
[23:07] <n-iCe> anyone knows the name of the window effect that you move the mouse to a corner and all thr windows goes small and you can select any?
[23:08] <oneunder> expose i think
[23:08] <lunitik> mkultra: It does not install anything, I don't know how you came up with that.
[23:08] <MHz> oneunder, it does make the screen looks weired and I need to scroll it like I am having a small monitor. Even that I have 23inch LCD
[23:08] <llama-linux> meh, I'll just install feh
[23:08] <kcj> c_smith, Sorry this is taking a while.
[23:08] <lunitik> mkultra: why it works on the desktop I have no idea, but there you are.
[23:08] <anom> there is no restart under shutdown for 11.10..
[23:08] <MarbleArch> *sighs* Updated from 11.04 and of course lost sound again and cant remember what I did last time. Anyone up for a little handholding?
[23:08] <oneunder> dont know man.  you activated them through ubuntu, and not downloading the .sh from nvidia?
[23:09] <MHz> oneunder, funny thing is, safe graphical mode gives me a better resolution :))
[23:09] <lunitik> anom: yes there is... you have you click on shut down though and then choose restart in the dialog that comes up
[23:09] <c_smith> kcj, it's okay, gonna try to eat as quick as I can so I can get back quick. dinner.
[23:09] <almoxarife> n-iCe: the really simple one that comes with 'ubuntu-tweak' is the one I use
[23:09] <oneunder> are you sure that it is using the nvidia driver and not noveau? (or whatever that is)
[23:09] <grkblood> how do you make all of the icon colors in the launcher uniform like this? http://images.4chan.org/wg/src/1318516632587.png
[23:09] <sterna> mirrored: http://bou.si/4c/1318516632587.png
[23:09] <n-iCe> almoxarife: what do you mean
[23:10] <MHz> oneunder, yeah it is that phreaking noveau thinggie ... can't get rid of it. VERY annoying :'(
[23:10] <mkultra> killall -9 firefox does work for ubuntu, not for other distros, some distros require the process id
[23:11] <MHz> oneunder, i will try to restart now after installing the drivers from the Ubuntu repo.s
[23:11] <mkultra> lunitik its ctrl + F2
[23:11] <SharkMonkey> Why does chrome update so often in the repositories?
[23:11] <emorris> mkultra, pidof ?
[23:11] <mkultra> not ctrl t
[23:11] <oneunder> i would put the nouveau in the blacklist
[23:11] <mkultra> process id of firefox to kill 9 it, see slackware 12
[23:11] <MHz> BRB .. wish me luck
[23:11] <MHz> will reboot
[23:11] <lunitik> mkultra: that does nothing at all here.
[23:11] <almoxarife> SharkMonkey: you chose the 'nightly' ppa?
[23:12] <SharkMonkey> Nope.
[23:12] <spacebug-> how come libreoffice (when opening a file from like nautilus) does not show up in the launcher/task switcher?
[23:13] <mkultra> i mean alt + f2, yes ctrl + t is new tab in many progs
[23:13] <firmevato> i am on nightly and just got my chromium updated as well
[23:13] <SoobNauce> Lilypond is causing my apt to break.  "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[23:14] <urlin2u> spacebug-, the left panel is that what you mean?
[23:14] <anom> where is the restart again? clicking on the shutdown... shutdown my computer.
[23:14] <SetiAmon> Anyone know why firefox keeps opening up on my secondary monitor?
[23:14] <murple> usr13: you still there?
[23:14] <mkultra> alt + f2 "gksu halt" run to shut down
[23:14] <mkultra> write it down, easy as pie
[23:14] <spacebug-> urlin2u: yes
[23:14] <urlin2u> spacebug-, what release, what desktop?
[23:15] <anom> i know the command "shutdown -r now" but I'm just curious
[23:15] <spacebug-> 11.10 unity
[23:15] <SoobNauce> This is where you tell me to go to ##linux, and where ##linux tells me to go to #debian and where #debian tells me to go to #ubuntu
[23:15] <SuperNoeMan> how do i echo colors to the terminal
[23:15] <urlin2u> spacebug-, do you have libreo already in the panel?
[23:15] <SoobNauce> i just want to speed this runaround up a bit so I can get in like 2 cycles of doing absolutely nothing before dinner
[23:15] <spacebug-> urlin2u: no
[23:15] <mkultra> yes shutdown -h now = halt
[23:15] <mkultra> shutdown -r now = reboot
[23:15] <almoxarife> anom: right click offers up one set of choices and left click another?
[23:15] <Mike98631> Is there any reason why after upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10, my theme, icon settings, font settings and wallpaper have been changed to default settings?
[23:16] <urlin2u> spacebug-, hm are you sure now libroeffice icon anywhere?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Mike98631: probably
[23:16] <urlin2u> now=no spacebug-
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Mike98631: even if you were using Unity in 11.04, well that was going on top of Gnome 2, and so
[23:16] <murple> When Windows doesn't boot right, I reboot in SAFE MODE. Does Ubuntu have a similar feature? I'm having trouble booting into Ubuntu.
[23:16] <spacebug-> urlin2u: yes. And it does not even show when using alt+tab
[23:16] <anom> well, i guess i'll just use terminal for now to reboot
[23:16] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | Mike98631
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Mike98631: when you upgraded you upgraded to Gnome 3.2
[23:17] <spacebug-> but the program is up and running wuth my document
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Mike98631: just without Gnome Shell by default since Unity
[23:17] <urlin2u> spacebug-, strange not sure really.
[23:17] <emorris> murple, hold down shift when booting, and when  the grub menu appears, choose recovery mode :-)
[23:17] <spacebug-> urlin2u: ok
[23:17] <Mike98631> sebsebseb: Okay I see. I guess I'll have to redo everything now :P
[23:17] <murple> emorris: Damn I wish someone would have told me that months/hours ago....
[23:17] <SetiAmon> eventhough gnome3 is much better then unity i still think gnome 2 was better
[23:17] <sebsebseb> !nounity | Mike98631
[23:17] <murple> emorris: I'll definetly try that right away...
[23:17] <MHz> hi again
[23:17] <SetiAmon> brb rebooting
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Mike98631: so yep on defaults for 11.10
[23:18] <emorris> murple, one of those things :-p
[23:18] <MHz> oneunder, how do u run nvidia settings as a root?
[23:18] <SoobNauce> Who do I go to for help with dpkg under ubuntu 11.10?
[23:18] <grkblood> how do you change the colors on the icons in the unity launcher to all be the same?
[23:19] <oneunder> ...  open a terminal and sudo nvidia-settings
[23:19] <racho> damn gnome-shell just rocks! sry Canonical, Unity just isn't on *that* level
[23:19] <mkultra> MHz, alt + f2 "gksu /usr/bin/nvidia-settings" no "" marks
[23:19] <SetiAmon> why isn't there a shutdown option?
[23:19] <murple> emorris: That didn't change much. I held down both Shift keys during reboot. It reads Starting postfix mail... starting web server apache2.
[23:19] <sebsebseb> racho: Why use Shell in Ubuntu then? heh heh :D
[23:19] <SetiAmon> were is shutdown option
[23:19] <mkultra> make a desktop?
[23:20] <murple> emorris: No menu. Is it possible I don't have grub?
[23:20] <urlin2u> grkblood, doesn't the picture have a link to the icon setup.
[23:20] <grkblood> no
[23:20] <emorris> murple, do it as soon as you turn the computer on, before the first purple screen appears
[23:20] <mkultra> need su mode to see shutdown its in sbin
[23:20] <themill> SoobNauce: if you actually post the information in a pastebin as suggested then people might have a chance of helping. And the full output would be handy -- you mistyped the name of the package 4 times now so the real output would be much better to see.
[23:20] <mkultra> its not in the users path
[23:20] <fhtagn> racho: any idea on how I can edit the size of the top and bottom bars?
[23:20] <murple> emorris: I'm pretty sure i did, will try again...
[23:20] <grkblood> urlin2u, nop3
[23:20] <grkblood> nope8
[23:20] <urlin2u> grkblood, asking here is probably not going to figure it out, who is to say it is legit.
[23:20] <racho> sebsebseb, cuz im using Fedora :) I've forgotten Ubuntu long time ago -> Linux racho 3.1.0-0.rc9.git0.0.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 5 15:30:54 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:20] <SoobNauce> themill: oddly enough I'm in the middle of apt-get install -f >> txt but it's hanging and I don't know why
[23:21] <emorris> murple, wait, did you install using a cd or wubi?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> racho: ok nice :)
[23:21] <grkblood> is there a room dedicated to unity?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> grkblood: nope
[23:21] <SoobNauce> the actual command I used was "sudo apt-get install -f >>f.txt"
[23:21] <Raelith> usr13: hi i got my issue sorted. it was the nvidia drivers
[23:21] <sebsebseb> grkblood: howver you can ask UNity questions here
[23:22] <emorris> SoobNauce, it's probably waiting for a response from you. Do ...install -f | tee f.txt      insteaf of >>f.txt so you can see the output :-)
[23:22] <murple> emorris: CD. Long time ago. Then upgraded to 11.04 or 11.10. I only have ubuntu on my computer, so it's possible I don't have grub at all?
[23:22] <SoobNauce> oh for fuck's sake, it was prompting me to press Y
[23:22] <grkblood> sebsebseb, is there a way to change the colors of the icons in the unity launcher to be the same, something like a greyscale
[23:22] <oneunder> I fixed my issue.  On my 64-bit machine, it seems that the 32-bit interpretor did not get installed correctly (to run 32 bit programs).  So I ran: sudo aptitude reinstall libc6-i386.  That worked and my problem is resolved.  Thank you
[23:22] <SoobNauce> "tee"?
[23:22] <Zanzacar> I was wondering if I logged into my server via a SSH shell and I started the 11.10 upgrade through SSH and I close SSH does that mean it is going to stop the upgrade?
[23:22] <themill> SoobNauce: yes, tee...
[23:23] <oneunder> Zanzacar, I do believe so
[23:23] <emorris> SoobNauce, or tee -a  if you want to append. tee prints everything to the terminal *and* the fire
[23:23] <murple> emorris: The problem started when I tried to remove Unity and install Gnome3 instead. I followed a guide on the web and after that I can't boot into Ubuntu.
[23:23] <emorris> file*
[23:23] <SoobNauce> http://paste.debian.net/136585/
[23:23] <murple> emorris: I need to gain access to Ubuntu so I can somehow fix Unity/Gnome....
[23:23] <MHz> thank you mkultra and oneunder
[23:23] <mkultra> Zanzacar,  do the install command and add a space and a & ampersand
[23:23] <emorris> murple, you should definitely have grub, Ubuntu has always used it
[23:23] <sebsebseb> grkblood:  don't think so
[23:23] <oneunder> That do it for you?
[23:23] <MHz> BRB another restart :)
[23:23] <mkultra> if u wanna thank me mail a joint =D
[23:23] <murple> emorris: I have no idea, how would I check if it's installed from the console?
[23:23] <emorris> murple, what is the sequence of events when you turn your pc on?
[23:24] <Zanzacar> mkultra: what does that do? run it in the background?
[23:24] <mkultra> yes
[23:24] <mkultra> yes background Zanzacar
[23:24] <urlin2u> murple, you don't remove unity to install gnome 3 post that link.
[23:24] <MHz> mkultra, i am having one now .. will share if i manage to get back :)
[23:24] <Raelith> if anyone cant boot into ubuntu and it just stuck on the splash screen chances are it might be the graphics drivers. i just had to uninstall my nvidia ones
[23:24] <Zanzacar> mkultra: thanks, does that go for any command? I could download a file or something and use that same syntax?
[23:24] <emorris> murple, if Ubuntu even starts to boot, you have grub :-)
[23:24] <mkultra> yes any command Zanzacar
[23:24] <mkultra> appease the linux gods with space amp ;-)
[23:25] <mkultra> yeah Zanzacar , wget fuglyurl.com/file.txt &
[23:25] <Zanzacar> mkultra: I plan to, I always like to understand more so that in future instances I can answer the question for someone else or dont need to ask again haha
[23:25] <murple> emorris: it's an imac. so. white screen. -> question mark folder (osx thing) -> purple screen -> ubuntu logo -> white text on black screen. (starting cups, starting web server apache2). -> HANGS.
[23:25] <mkultra> linux from scratch manuals helped me alot
[23:26] <Zanzacar> mkultra: Linux from scratch I will check that out, I am sure I can find it through a google search.
[23:26] <Zanzacar> I have only been on linux for about 2 months maybe 3 so I am always learning.
[23:26] <SoobNauce> And?
[23:26] <murple> urlin2u: I did this a long time ago. I may be mixing up Unity with something else, I mean the window manager alternative to Gnome which was introduced in a recent ubuntu release. Ubiquity perhaps?
[23:26] <mkultra> google any command space linux from scratch
[23:26] <launch> Hi, i downloaded 11.04 and i use xfce. there is no taskbar and no dock.
[23:26] <Zanzacar> I thought pipes were amazing
[23:26] <urlin2u> murple, compiz?
[23:26] <freshinstall> where have the panel configuration options gone in gnome?
[23:27] <murple> emorris: Did you get the boot sequence I wrote above?
[23:27] <Zanzacar> mkultra: Thanks I am out of here off to upgrade
[23:27] <murple> urlin2u: no...
[23:27] <mkultra> launch you gotta go into the xfce preferences for panel to expand it from zero / add a panel
[23:27] <emorris> murple, yeah, that purple screen is where the grub menu should appear if you are holding shift
[23:27] <mkultra> remove / upgrade docky 4 xfce ;-)
[23:27] <launch> mkultra: thanks!!
[23:27] <emorris> murple, although I don't know if it's different for a mac
[23:27] <xannen> How do I restart unity desktop, c.f. sudo service gdm restart?
[23:27] <leftist> mkultra you still here?
[23:27] <mkultra> hi
[23:27] <mkultra> lol
[23:27] <murple> emorris: I see.....
[23:28] <launch> mkultra: what you mean for the dock
[23:28] <dzup> how buggy is 11.01 if i disire to upgrade from 10.01 ?
[23:28] <C1sM0> Hello everybody! I was installing Ubuntu-restricted-extras at the end when ask if you accept the fonts from micro$oft I close that windows by mistake now I want to use the font in Libre office but I do not see them
[23:28] <emorris> xannen, replace 'gdm' with 'lightdm'
[23:28] <murple> urlin2u: I definetly mean Unity, it's an alternative to the Gnome window manager right??
[23:28] <em2000> Please help me. How to change resolution in 11.10. I have done it before by putting xrandr newmode,addmode etc.in /etc/gdm/Init/Default, now it is gone.
[23:28] <leftist> i made a mistake i am running 10.10. i remember now that i didnt dig that new interface for 11.x
[23:28] <leftist> my bad
[23:28] <leftist> thank god :D
[23:28] <mkultra> docky = linux version of osx's dock
[23:28] <Raelith> murple: are you hanging at the splash screen too?
[23:28] <emorris> murple, I'm googling...
[23:28] <themill> SoobNauce: http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/27/deciphering-one-of-dpkgs-weirdest-errors-short-read-on-buffer-copy/
[23:28] <murple> If I have grub, I should be able to edit the startup parameter to start Ubuntu in Recovery Mode or whatever it's called right? How could that be done?
[23:28] <SoobNauce> I have a bad feeling about this
[23:29] <urlin2u> murple, not sure I understand you gnome 2 aqnd 3 and unity are desktops, ethier metacity or compiz are the stock managers.
[23:29] <mkultra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1819085  no ppa for 11.10
[23:29] <mkultra> alt + f2 docky &
[23:29] <murple> Raelith: Which splash screen do you mean? It gangs when the white text on black background... where ubuntu lists everything it's starting up. Oddly, seems to be a little different on each boot.
[23:29] <SoobNauce> oh for fuck's--  apt-get clean is actually a required thing
[23:29] <pangolin> !language | SoobNauce
[23:29] <bazhang> SoobNauce, no cursing here
[23:30] <SoobNauce> bazhang: Noted, and noted.
[23:30] <SoobNauce> I didn't know apt-get clean was a thing, I thought it just happened whenever apt-get install happened
[23:30] <Tomfoolery123> Can sombody help me out with installing a new theme?
[23:30] <scarleo> dzup: versions are 10.10 11.04 11.10
[23:30] <murple> urlin2u: I'm only refering to the "desktops" then. Unity and gnome.
[23:30] <murple> urlin2u: I tried uninstalling unity and installing gnome 3 instead.
[23:30] <Tomfoolery123> I would say I'm new to ubuntu but really I'm just... crap
[23:30] <murple> urlin2u: now I cannot boot into ubuntu since months.
[23:30] <Raelith> murple: i just had to resolve an issue where i couldnt get past the spalsh screen with the ubuntu logo and 5 dots
[23:30] <urlin2u> murple, you need the exact app names to really get herlp.
[23:30] <scarleo> dzup: not buggy at all, much better I'd say
[23:31] <urlin2u> help*
[23:31] <mkultra> i joined ubuntu to help new people with my LFS powers
[23:31] <Tomfoolery123> ? :(
[23:31] <murple> urlin2u: I uninstalled Unity and tried installing Gnome3, isn't that "exact enough"?
[23:31] <bazhang> mkultra, lets stay on topic please
[23:31] <murple> Raelith: I see.
[23:31] <Fudge> does lucid still ship with openoffice? or libreoffice now
[23:31] <Raelith> what is the issue you are having?
[23:31] <urlin2u> murple, you don't do that that is the problem reinstall unity.
[23:31] <mkultra> r u op bazhang?
[23:32] <murple> urlin2u: Besides regardless of how I screwed up Ubuntu, I'm now only trying to boot into it to be able to try to fix it. But that's prooving to be an impossible tas.
[23:32] <GridCube> where do i add -no-install-recommends on apt-get install?
[23:32] <bazhang> mkultra, it's not important; no need for the excessive commentary please
[23:32] <em2000> How can i change resolution in 11.10? I have no xorg.conf
[23:32] <Mike98631> Is there anyway to downgrade back to 11.04?
[23:32] <murple> urlin2u: I would, but I can't get my internet connection to work from the console only.
[23:32] <Yxven> I'm trying to debug why my ubuntu black screens after the grub. I'm following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535 It has me booting into nosplash screen verbose text mode so it's now spamming my screen with text faster than I can read it before black screening. How do I read the text?
[23:32] <Tomfoolery123> Raelith, can you help me? I'm trying to install a new theme I just downloaded
[23:32] <murple> urlin2u: so I don't think that's possible. I'll give it a shot, sudo apt-get install unity right?
[23:32] <bazhang> Tomfoolery123, whats the link
[23:32] <sebsebseb> !downgrade | Mike98631
[23:32] <sebsebseb> Mike98631: Why do you want to downgrade?
[23:32] <freshinstall> Mike98631, not really, even if they claim there is a way 96% sure you'll end up with fubar
[23:33] <Tomfoolery123> bazhang, you mean to the theme?
[23:33] <bazhang> Tomfoolery123, yes
[23:33] <urlin2u> murple, lots of unknown ere, any link that told you to was wrong or you were using one for the wrong release, which I believe you have not indentified yours is.
[23:33] <SoobNauce> themill: Thank you for the help.
[23:33] <Mike98631> Actually I can't even see those replies. It's not letting me scroll down.
[23:33] <Raelith> Tomfoolery123: there should be an option in the desktop settings to change the theme
[23:33] <murple> urlin2u: Understood. It'sa long time ago so I have no idea which website I was reading.
[23:33] <Tomfoolery123> bazhang, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Themes/MurrinaMissy-41306.shtml
[23:33] <Fudge> GridCube  those flags are used with apt-get/aptitude
[23:34] <murple> urlin2u: I tried installing Unity and it says Unity is already at the newest version, so that may not be my problem afterall.
[23:34] <freshinstall> Bring on the "how to downgrade to gnome2 in ubuntu 11.10" blog post
[23:34] <murple> urlin2u: I would just like to "get into Ubuntu" somehow......
[23:34] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | freshinstall
[23:34] <Tomfoolery123> Raelith, I know how to change the theme to one already in the themey bit, i'm just trying to get the one I downloaded into the themy box
[23:34] <murple> urlin2u: Isn't there a way to "reset the desktop" somehow.
[23:34] <urlin2u> murple, I assume the apt-get unity is correct
[23:34] <GridCube> Fudge, i know thats why i asked where on the apt-get install line it goes
[23:34] <Tomfoolery123> God I sound like a moron...
[23:34] <murple> urlin2u: what do you mean?
[23:34] <Fudge> GridCube  does it matter?
[23:34] <urlin2u> murple, when you have unity installed it s unity --reset
[23:34] <themill> SoobNauce: if that solves it, you should be somewhat worried about your hard drive.
[23:35] <bazhang> !notunity | freshinstall
[23:35] <Tomfoolery123> I just wanted a pink them :(
[23:35] <fhtagn> how was I supposed to guess that to edit the top and bottom bars in gnome3 fallback I have to press Alt before right click? =(
[23:35] <GridCube> Fudge, i guess because its now working
[23:35] <bazhang> Tomfoolery123, still waiting for the link to resolve
[23:35] <Fudge> before the package name i guess
[23:35] <Tomfoolery123> bazhang, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Themes/MurrinaMissy-41306.shtml I just sent it you didn't i?
[23:35] <murple> urlin2u: Wouldn't it be great if that solved all my troubles....
[23:35] <murple> urlin2u: rebooting...
[23:35] <Tomfoolery123> bazhang, there it is anyhows
[23:35] <urlin2u> bazhang, I believe they removed unity and installed gnome shell.
[23:35] <bazhang> Tomfoolery123, yes, waiting for it to resolve
[23:36] <Tomfoolery123> what do you mean resolve?
[23:36] <sgs2_usr> anyone here has luck getting Camfrog working on Ubuntu 11.10?
[23:36] <mdlueck> Anyone ever heard of Ubuntu 10.04.3 both x86 and x64 able to do "something" to the drive during installation which prevents the system POST at reboot?
[23:36] <Tomfoolery123> Man anytime I step into a linux forum I feel like an idiot... Blah
[23:36] <murple> urlin2u: Same..... hangs after "Starting MySQL Server"
[23:36] <Tomfoolery123> bazhang, what do you mean resolve?
[23:36] <Zanzacar> mkultra: Sorry to bother you again, I did what you recommended and it appears to have worked but how do I know if it is working?\
[23:37] <mdlueck> Only wiping the front of the drive using another system restores ability for said system to POST
[23:37] <bazhang> Tomfoolery123, the link is not returning anything yet. please be patient
[23:37] <frofire> anyone know if it's possible to customize a livecd and have it have java and some other stuff pre-installed?
[23:37] <Zanzacar> mkultra: I have top up and running trying to see if there is anything that might hint me to it running like higher load etc but no dice really
[23:37] <freshinstall> sebsebseb, yeah I know, it's stupid imho, gnome2 could be used for at least another year
[23:37] <bazhang> !remaster | frofire
[23:37] <emorris> murple, did you manage to get it booting?
[23:37] <Zanzacar> frofire: I believ eyou need to create your own.
[23:37] <urlin2u> murple, can you get to the root net cli or desktop from recovery to reinstall unty?
[23:37] <frofire> thanks
[23:37] <Tomfoolery123> bazhang, oh, ok. Sorry.
[23:37] <murple> urlin2u: On every reboot it reads "pache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using ::1 for ServerName".Could that in any way be related to my boot-problems.
[23:38] <Raelith> frofire: i usually use fedora so i can ay yes. with regards to ubuntu im sure there is a way with their custom building kit
[23:38] <murple> emorris: No, unfortunately not. I thought unity --reset would do the tric, but didn't help.
[23:38] <sebsebseb> freshinstall: well some distributiosn are actsaully going to hold on to Gnome 2 as long as they can
[23:38] <freshinstall> bazhang, thanks for that, just looked at gnome-tweak-tool, it's got none of the features I liked in gnome - system monitor
[23:38] <sebsebseb> freshinstall: two come to mind, altough one of them hasn't sorted that out yet
[23:38] <urlin2u> murple, not sure when it comes to boot problems I have specifuc skilss not associated with removing a desktop your not supposed to.
[23:38] <sebsebseb> freshinstall: however I agree, they could have supported Gnome 2 in 11.10 as well realy
[23:38] <murple> urlin2u: not sure what you mean. I hit ctrl+alt+ f3 or f6 and get access to the console
[23:38] <racho> sebsebseb, i think that's mint only
[23:38] <mkultra> Zanzacar, its a zombie process doing nothing
[23:39] <urlin2u> murple, at te console have u=you tried the unity reinstall?
[23:39] <vyshay> screenshot of me wasting my whole day on new ubuntu: http://i.imgur.com/24Av1.jpg
[23:39] <c_smith> kcj, any luck?
[23:39] <murple> urlin2u: I believe so. It said I had the newest version.
[23:39] <freshinstall> sebsebseb, it's annoying how ubuntu keep pitching to the n00b crowd, I've been using gnome for 10+ years, and am VERY used to it, it's a real pain for me to change now, having used it the same way for so long (all day every day)
[23:39] <emorris> murple, I read a bug where the shift key wasn't bringing up the grub menu on some machines; one suggestion was repeatedly pressing shift instead of holding it. Don't know if you wanted to try that?
[23:39] <kcj> c_smith, Not really.
[23:39] <murple> urlin2u: I did sudo apt-get install Unity
[23:39] <Eearslya> Every time I try to install any OS, including Ubuntu 10.04, I always get an I/O error on my hard drive. Is it just shot and I need a new one?
[23:39] <murple> emorris: Sure thing. Thanks.
[23:39] <bazhang> sebsebseb, freshinstall chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[23:39] <freshinstall> sebsebseb, I'll adapt, but it's a waste of time
[23:39] <sebsebseb> bazhang: yeah was about to say
[23:39] <Zanzacar> mkultra: if its a zombie process doing nothing then... will it update? haha
[23:40] <psychogenius> hello i have problem i will modify dump file with sed command i will find string and than replace characters after this string and do this in hex. i try: sed ' s/\x35\xF4................./\x25\x25\x25\x25\x25\x25\x25\x25\x25\x25\x25/g' file > file.new
[23:40] <psychogenius>  but it dont work
[23:40] <Raelith> murple: what graphics card do you use btw?
[23:40] <mdlueck> Eearslya: Ask SpinRite for a second opinion
[23:40] <sebsebseb> freshinstall: racho  Come to #ubuntu-offtopic I want to continue this chat there
[23:40] <mkultra> it will keep memory tied up, but not chew on processor
[23:40] <MeQuerSat> Eearslya, do you have the money for a SSD?
[23:40] <Eearslya> mdlueck: SpinRite?
[23:40] <freshinstall> bazhang, not chit chat, just replying to replies :-)
[23:40] <Eearslya> MeQuerSat: Nope.
[23:40] <MeQuerSat> Eearslya, aw, too bad
[23:40] <bazhang> freshinstall, please take it to the chat channel, thanks
[23:41] <murple> Raelith: I'm not sure as it's an iMac, I believe perhaps it's something "Radeon"...
[23:41] <mdlueck> Eearslya: http://www.grc.com/
[23:41] <MHz> I HATE NVIDIA!!!!
[23:41] <freshinstall> MHz, yep
[23:41] <puddles> hello! would anyone be able to help me with an annoying problem?
[23:41] <murple> emorris: I tried repeatedly hitting both shift keys during the entire boot cycle, but no Grub menu showed up.
[23:41] <urlin2u> murple, what did you have working you tried to i8nstall gnome 3 the problem here is you have done things which are not advised and are not realy sure of what you have done all together, look at it  our point of view.
[23:41] <bazhang> puddles, first ask the channel
[23:41] <MHz> may I add  ... I HATE NVIDIA with ubuntu
[23:41] <Raelith> ok, im just asking because i couldnt boot into my fresh install due to an issue with my nvidia drivers so i had to uninstall them
[23:41] <bazhang> MHz, not the place for it.
[23:42] <MeQuerSat> murple, thats because you should hit Escape
[23:42] <mkultra> ....
[23:42] <murple> MeQuerSat: I'll try that then.
[23:42] <pirlo> hi, does anyone know how to install Oracle Express 11g Release 2 on Ubuntu 64-bit ?
[23:42] <puddles> what do you mean ask the channel?
[23:42] <Eearslya> mdlueck: So I'd have to buy it?
[23:42] <MHz> bazhang, that has been said ...
[23:42] <bazhang> puddles, ask your support question here please
[23:42] <MHz> Guys I need a real help getting my display setup with ubuntu 11.10 with nVidia 550GTX
[23:42] <famgod> uhmm, i sorta screwed my unity / compiz interface while I was playing around with the compiz settings manager thingy.....is there a way I can reinstall unity/compiz to the defaults?
[23:42] <mdlueck> Eearslya: Yes it is paid software. Best software I know of to check our HDD's..
[23:42] <mdlueck> .
[23:43] <Eearslya> mdlueck: Well, I should mention I really can't buy anything.
[23:43] <murple> urlin2u: I'm something of a linux noob so for me solving this problem is extremely difficult, I'm only looking for some help from people who are more knowledgeable than myself. I can't ask for anything more....
[23:43] <mdlueck> Eearslya: Then I suppose you are not getting another drive either, if that is the case... (shrug)
[23:43] <Eearslya> I've tried Windows XP and 7, and Ubuntu 10.04. All of them fail in the middle of file copying.
[23:44] <MHz> mkultra, you sound helpful to me :) can u point me to some direction to get the nShita setup with ubuntu 11.10 :))
[23:44] <bazhang> murple, you installed gnome3 on 11.04 from the PPA?
[23:44] <Eearslya> Except Ubuntu 10.04 failed during formatting, actually.
[23:44] <mdlueck> Eearslya: Quite possible I guess
[23:44] <urlin2u> murple, no problem, but what is important is not oecking at stuff, and remembering exactly what you have done, this is relevant no matter what the OS is.
[23:44] <Raelith> MHz whats the problem?
[23:44] <urlin2u> pecking*
[23:45] <Mary123_> what is the difference between installing Xubuntu and installing XFCE ?????
[23:45] <murple> bazhang: I'm not quite sure about that.
[23:45] <Eearslya> So I guess I have to get a USB drive to install the OS onto.
[23:45] <bluezguy> hello
[23:45] <puddles> hi
[23:45] <MHz> Raelith, the resolutions are not properly recognized. I have LCD 23inch with nVidia n550GTX and the screen works properly in the 800x600 mode o_O
[23:46] <bluezguy> I'm having trouble getting my new bluetooth keyboard with touchpad to install on ubuntu 11.10
[23:46] <urlin2u> murple, so try to gather what you have done and prganize it rather then posting I get this what do I do know so it is more cohesive I guess my message is. Not everyone of us can decipher every error without some back info.
[23:46] <urlin2u> organize*
[23:46] <llama-li1ux> hi
[23:46] <bluezguy> what's a good tool to set it up? I've downloaded blueman
[23:46] <MeQuerSat> MHz: you have the latest Ubuntu?
[23:47] <MHz> Raelith, otherwise on higher resol. i need to go deep left to say go to the chat I con on the top, deep down to type on xChat
[23:47] <MeQuerSat> if so, open Search and type "Displays"
[23:47] <murple> MeQuerSat: By the way, repeatedly hitting the Esc key during reboot didn't bring up a Grub menu either.
[23:47] <MHz> MeQuerSat, I have it yeah and the drivers from the driver update app
[23:47] <mkultra> mhz alt + f2 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[23:47] <MoLE_> murple, try holding down the left shift key after rebooting, that should bring up the grub2 menu
[23:47] <kcj> c_smith, I can't figure it out.
[23:47] <MeQuerSat> MHz, there is only 800x600 in the list of resolutions?
[23:48] <murple> urlin2u: Hmm. Not sure quite how to put this. I simply following a guide online on how to get rid of Unity (which I didn't like) and install Gnome 3 (Which I hoped I would like). After that I'm incapable of booting into Ubuntu.
[23:48] <c_smith> kcj, does it compile for you?
[23:48] <MHz> mkultra, what do I need with that if I may ask?
[23:48] <mkultra> might have to run that as alt + f2 gksu /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[23:48] <MeQuerSat> I actually like unity
[23:48] <Fudge> what kernel is lucid on at the moment, 10.04.3
[23:48] <murple> MoLE_: I tried holding both the left and right at the same time, will now reboot and only hold left shift.
[23:48] <mkultra> it changes your nvidia driver mhz
[23:48] <kcj> c_smith, Nope, same issue your having.
[23:48] <MHz> MeQuerSat, i have other resol.s however the display does not fit with it
[23:48] <robin0800> murple, have found on some systems only the right shift works
[23:49] <c_smith> might be something with the ubuntu gtk3, then
[23:49] <MeQuerSat> Can you explain?
[23:49] <MeQuerSat> "does not fit"
[23:49] <urlin2u> murple, if you had a link to that it would help, without it it is irrelevant to be honest as, it sounds like info on doing this on another release before even Natty or Oneiric.
[23:49] <murple> robin0800: will try all combinations of shift
[23:49] <c_smith> could this be counted as a bug?
[23:50] <mkultra> lucid is 2.6 branch, 11 is 3 i thinks
[23:50] <c_smith> the reason I ask is that it apparently compiled on build servers, because the package is in the repos at the same version.
[23:50] <murple> urlin2u: lsb_release -a says I have Ubuntu 11.04 natty
[23:50] <kcj> c_smith, Maybe.
[23:50] <user_> hello
[23:50] <Polah> mkultra: Kernel? Only 11.10 is 3.0, 11.04 is 2.6 or 2.8
[23:50] <Wamphyri> has anyone successfully installed ubuntu with usb3 enabled?
[23:50] <Mary123_> hello there!!  what is the difference between installing Xubuntu and installing XFCE ?
[23:51] <urlin2u> murple, I think bazhang had a good quesition on the ppa for gnome 3 you probably did that if you used a pre oneiric guide mistakenly.
[23:51] <richickle> evening - has anyone succesfully got a Radeon 6850 to work in 11.10?
[23:51] <richickle> with the fglrx drivers, not default (mesa?)
[23:51] <Polah> Mary123_: Xubuntu has XFCE as the default environment, installing XFCE after installing with another default environment or none at all is no different.
[23:51] <urlin2u> murple, you don't install gnome 3 in natty as well it will break it.
[23:51] <murple> urlin2u: That I added a custom (faulty) repository to install gnome 3 from?
[23:51] <murple> urlin2u: How so?
[23:52] <MHz> mkultra, I assume u wanted me to run that in console. So, I did Alt + F2 and typed that and it did saygtk could not be intialized
[23:52] <mdlueck> What is the correct "base" project to log something specific to Lucid / 10.04 against? I always loose track of how to log against the base OS.
[23:52] <MHz> *gtk could not be intialized
[23:52] <Mary123_> Polah: I had ubuntu and I installed XFCE. NOw on log on there are TWO more options.. XFCE session and Xubuntu.. what is the differemce now?
[23:52] <urlin2u> murple, only you would know, what is on this install anywaty?
[23:52] <urlin2u> anyway*
[23:52] <murple> urlin2u: http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/26/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[23:52] <mkultra> yes console / terminal
[23:52] <MrBoss> someone use a draftsight in 11.10 ?
[23:53] <mkultra> alt + f2 runs commands, no debug display
[23:53] <Polah> Mary123_: Strange, I imagine they're the same though.
[23:53] <jtomasrl> how do i change my theme config on ubuntu 11.10 with unity?
[23:53] <murple> urlin2u: I spent a long time configuring apache and some web server scripts.
[23:53] <Mary123_> Polah: well.. they're kinda the same.. different bars, colours and desktop background
[23:53] <MrBoss> libxcb-render-util0 - i can't install with apt-get
[23:53] <kcj> c_smith, Still there?
[23:53] <bazhang> murple, no way forward with that.
[23:54] <urlin2u> murple, I would try the ppa purge on that page, this channel always advised against gnome 3 in natty no matter what what a web page says.
[23:54] <c_smith> kcj, Si
[23:54] <Polah> Mary123_: They should both be using Xfce so they should be fairly identical, just different default settings most likely.
[23:54] <murple> bazhang: What do you mean?
[23:54] <boldfilter> Not a fan of 11.10 how do I revert back to 11.04
[23:54] <angela-> hello in ubuntu-nl is averyone add sleap is the mittle of tjh night in the netherlands
[23:54] <Stanley00> jtomasrl: Try Appearance
[23:54] <urlin2u> boldfilter, reinstall
[23:54] <kcj> c_smith, Did you get my pm?
[23:54] <bazhang> murple, completely unsupported and breaks things.  backup and reinstall
[23:54] <Mary123_> Polah: I see... but why two option on log instead of one ?
[23:54] <MHz> mkultra, those are the proprietary drivers, I have them installed already, Even the one it should be for 3D support
[23:54] <c_smith> nope
[23:54] <boldfilter> man, that sucks
[23:54] <jtomasrl> Stanley00: not there
[23:55] <boldfilter> why does unity suck so much
[23:55] <c_smith> wait there it is
[23:55] <robin0800> jtomasrl, use gnome-tweak-tool
[23:55] <bazhang> boldfilter, thats not a support question
[23:55] <kcj> boldfilter, Because.
[23:55] <boldfilter> oops, sry
[23:55] <urlin2u> boldfilter, unity is in 11.04 as well right, and the classic desktop
[23:55] <victor__> does anyone know why compiz refuses to let me set certain options?:
[23:55] <Polah> Mary123_: No idea. Fairies maybe.
[23:55] <Mary123_> Polah: hahahahaha   Aye
[23:55] <urlin2u> victor__, certain options details man.
[23:55] <Stanley00> jtomasrl: It's there, at the bottom-right, as in my case
[23:55] <murple> bazhang: oh.... so there's no point in bothering you fine folks any longer you mean? I should just roll over and play dead.... he..
[23:56] <boldfilter> I cant seem to get gnome like it was in 11.04
[23:56] <mkultra> MHz, pm
[23:56] <boldfilter> Is it because its Gnome 3 now?
[23:56] <Polah> boldfilter: GNOME in 11.04 was gnome2, are you on 11.10 now?
[23:56] <murple> urlin2u: it says ppa-purge is an unnown command
[23:56] <boldfilter> Yes Sir
[23:56] <jtomasrl> Stanley00: I can change the theme, but not the theme options
[23:56] <nsahoo> In 11.10 I can't reduce the unity launcher icon size using ccsm, the change does not take effect
[23:56] <boldfilter> Can I install Gnome 2 in 11.10
[23:56] <Polah> boldfilter: With GNOME3 on 11.10, on the log on screen click the cog next to your username and select "GNOME Classic", you'll get an interface slightly closer to the GNOME2 panels sysem
[23:56] <bazhang> murple, even that 3rd party blog post says very clearly it is unadvisable and unsupported. same goes here. so yes, a reinstall.
[23:56] <urlin2u> murple, I think bazhang advice was best, that s what I would do.
[23:56] <c_smith> kcj, are you getting my replies to your PM?
[23:56] <murple> urlin2u bazhang I do feel like I have found out exactly what the problem is at least.
[23:56] <haddock_> did anyone get postler to run under the new Ubuntu ? still nessesaty to compile Webkit ?
[23:57] <Polah> boldfilter: Yes, probably, but GNOME2 is no longer officially supported by the GNOME team
[23:57] <Stanley00> jtomasrl: ah, I see, maybe gnome-tweak-tool will
[23:57] <urlin2u> murple, probably.
[23:57] <richickle> evening - has anyone succesfully got a Radeon 6850 to work in 11.10 with the fglrx drivers?
[23:57] <murple> bazhang: I'm not sure that's the blog I followed, but it seems that warning was later added ....
[23:57] <haddock_> weird thing is that Postler is in the sofware center, but obviously It wont work
[23:57] <boldfilter> Thanks Polah
[23:57] <murple> okay okay okay....
[23:57] <murple> I'm screwed.
[23:57] <puddles> ok, my problem is that ubuntu isn't detecting my graphics and doesn't allow me to output to an external monitor (im on a laptop). However it detected I had NVIDIA graphics and i was able to install the 3rd party drivers. System info still says graphics: unknown    ?
[23:57] <murple> Well, thanks for the assitance urlin2u bazhang emorris usr13 ......
[23:57] <bazhang> !notunity | boldfilter
[23:57] <Polah> boldfilter: It's not exactly the same as the GNOME2 panels, but it's close. IF you do want panels like that then you'll probably want to consider switching to KDE or LXDE or something
[23:57] <Drecondius> Anybody sucessfully connect wirelessly in ubuntu 11.10? I can connect with kubuntu but the actual os is too buggy on my machine due to kde.
[23:58] <murple> I hope I didn't ruin everyone's day.... .. : )
[23:58] <JaredMW> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 and when I did so, the taskbar and topbar both disappeared.
[23:58] <sebsebseb> JaredMW: yep
[23:58] <Polah> murple: DId you try ppa-purge?
[23:58] <urlin2u> murple, nah it is all good. :D
[23:58] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | JaredMW
[23:58] <Polah> murple: And install it first?
[23:58] <murple> Polah: Yes, it said unknown command.
[23:58] <JaredMW> ubottu: I understand that Gnome disappeared, but NOTHING is here. I can't access anything.
[23:58] <Polah> murple: You need to install it with apt, then run it.
[23:59] <JaredMW> The only thing I can get to is the file directory. From there I was able to open some applications by opening an associated file. But it's not just that the interface has changed. I literally can't find any way to access a menu or program tree.
[23:59] <murple> Polah: oh I didn't think abou tthat..... that sounds like a plan then. install ppa-purge, then run ppa-purge....
[23:59] <Drecondius> Anybody connect wirelessly in Ubuntu 11.10, I can connect in Kubuntu but not Ubuntu and I need help.