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| JamesTait | Happy morning after, everyone! It's Friday! :D | 08:39 |
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| gord | hey all - getting a looot of weird issues with u1 today, keeps dropping connection causing it to notify-osd spam me with "there are x files uploading to u1", nothing really seems to make it up to u1 though - lots of weird errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com/707827/ on pretty much all the files its attempting to upload | 08:40 |
| gatox | hi | 09:02 |
| karni | hiya! | 09:12 |
| aquarius | gord, that sounds like something rye would know about | 09:32 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:32 |
| czajkowski | gord: you're breaking things today, I'm sure there are a lot of sore heads today | 09:33 |
| gord | aquarius, actually been okay for the last 20 minutes or so, fingers crossed :) | 09:33 |
| rye | gord, the exception in question is bug #872924 - we are pushing for it to get fixed, because it is critical | 09:33 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 872924 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Resuming a failed upload crashes with ValueError: I/O operation on closed file (affects: 4) (dups: 3) (heat: 42)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872924 | 09:33 |
| rye | gord, please click "affects me too" | 09:33 |
| gord | rye, awesome :) | 09:33 |
| rye | gord, and additionally some users experience slow performance from filesync, the foundations team is working to make servers faster. So this is both a client-side and server-side issue | 09:35 |
| Lunar_Lamp | Is there an ETA for when ubuntuone will finally work behind proxys? | 10:08 |
| rye | Chipaca, ^ is it Precise? | 10:35 |
| Chipaca | Lunar_Lamp: not a precise ETA, no | 10:35 |
| Chipaca | work is set to start in early November | 10:36 |
| Chipaca | estimation hasn't been done yet | 10:36 |
| Lunar_Lamp | Oh, so it is going to happen. | 10:38 |
| Lunar_Lamp | That's something at least! | 10:38 |
| Chipaca | the change should be released to N and O at least when done (we'll try for L and M also, but it might take a bit longer) | 10:42 |
| Chipaca | (that's a british bit, as in a hurricane being "a bit of weather") | 10:43 |
| Lunar_Lamp | lol | 10:44 |
| Lunar_Lamp | Well, if there's anything I can do to help with testing etc, I'm semi-desperate. | 10:44 |
| Lunar_Lamp | I have to sit behind a proxy at work, and thus can't sync with my home system. | 10:44 |
| Lunar_Lamp | Drives me mad. | 10:44 |
| Chipaca | Lunar_Lamp: what kind of proxy is it? | 10:44 |
| Lunar_Lamp | http/https | 10:44 |
| Chipaca | auth'ed? | 10:45 |
| Lunar_Lamp | No | 10:45 |
| Chipaca | phew :) | 10:45 |
| Lunar_Lamp | Though it wouldn't surprise me if that changes in the future :-( | 10:45 |
| Chipaca | that one should be the most straightforward kind to get working | 10:45 |
| Lunar_Lamp | \o/ | 10:45 |
| Chipaca | as long as it doesn't go kerberos or ntlm | 10:45 |
| Lunar_Lamp | Well, if you could just get started a little ahead of time, and drop me the update this afternoon...? | 10:45 |
| Lunar_Lamp | ;-) | 10:45 |
| Chipaca | at work, do you have windows, or ubuntu? | 10:46 |
| Lunar_Lamp | Ubuntu | 10:46 |
| Chipaca | what release? | 10:46 |
| Lunar_Lamp | (I'm a linux sysadmin, I refuse to work with anything else) | 10:46 |
| Lunar_Lamp | As of this morning, 11.10 | 10:46 |
| Chipaca | hm. I don't think the old patch will work. But you can try it, if you're confortable patching stuff (i'd recommend --dry-run if you're considering doing it on the system software directly) | 10:47 |
| Chipaca | I think https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntuone-client/very-basic-proxy-support-for-stable-1-4 might apply | 10:48 |
| Chipaca | but if it breaks, no promises | 10:48 |
| Lunar_Lamp | Any risk of data loss? | 10:54 |
| Lunar_Lamp | (realistic) | 10:54 |
| Lunar_Lamp | I'm happy to play as long as it's n ot likely I'll delete the contents of my home folder or similar. | 10:55 |
| Chipaca | sorry, was afk | 10:57 |
| Chipaca | um, no, either it works or it doesn't work | 10:57 |
| Lunar_Lamp | I'll have a play later if I get time :-) | 10:58 |
| Chipaca | ok :) | 10:58 |
| alecu | hello, all! | 12:30 |
| gatox | alecu, hi! | 12:31 |
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| dobey | la la la | 13:07 |
| hrw | hi | 13:41 |
| hrw | Can someone tell me how much time does it takes to send 120KB file to u1 from desktop (on 3Mbps upload pipe)? And why it is over half hour :D | 13:43 |
| beuno | facundobatista, ^ | 13:43 |
| facundobatista | Hi hrw | 13:44 |
| hrw | file has time 15:02, 15:44 is now and I see 4th popup from U1 that it is sending this file | 13:44 |
| facundobatista | hrw, the popups are not really trustworhy, you should check the logs to really see what's going on, probably the client is gettind disconnected and reconnected | 13:45 |
| hrw | facundobatista: where I find logs? | 13:45 |
| facundobatista | hrw, ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/ | 13:45 |
| hrw | http://pastebin.com/W2w765Di | 13:46 |
| hrw | syncdaemon.log: | 13:47 |
| hrw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/708004/ | 13:47 |
| hrw | ideas? | 13:50 |
| alecu | hrw, there are lots of "server connection made" and "server connection lost" messages in that log. | 13:54 |
| alecu | facundobatista, ^ | 13:54 |
| hrw | alecu: indeed, wondering why | 13:55 |
| alecu | rye, facundobatista: there are lots of "ssl handshake failure" on the second log | 13:56 |
| czajkowski | mandal: meet the new Ubuntu Community Council http://j.mp/nbeO2q | 13:56 |
| alecu | rye, any idea if there's a ssl issue with the servers? | 13:56 |
| alecu | czajkowski, do you mean mandel? | 13:56 |
| rye | alecu, redirecting the question to facundobatista | 13:57 |
| czajkowski | yes | 13:57 |
| czajkowski | mandel: ^^ | 13:57 |
| czajkowski | alecu: didnt tab complete | 13:57 |
| alecu | :-) | 13:57 |
| facundobatista | rye, alecu, hrw, we're experiencing some issues in the servers, that's why the reconnections | 13:57 |
| hrw | ok | 13:57 |
| hrw | one day I will have to try u1 on headless machines | 13:58 |
| rye | czajkowski, are you sure it is mandel, are you talking about Martin Albisetti? | 13:59 |
| hrw | facundobatista: and thx for log files location info | 13:59 |
| dobey | czajkowski: that is beuno you mean | 13:59 |
| rye | hrw, i had some experience running u1 syncdaemon headless, once dbus session is created it is pretty smooth (provided the servers are cooperating) | 13:59 |
| hrw | rye: I want it to run on bootup | 14:00 |
| czajkowski | no I was letting mandel know | 14:01 |
| czajkowski | beuno: is ona plane | 14:01 |
| czajkowski | but he should also be told also | 14:01 |
| rye | hrw, it is still required to have some user, root is not recommended, and it can operate within $HOME of that user | 14:02 |
| beuno | czajkowski, landed 2 hours ago. Also, \o/ | 14:02 |
| hrw | rye: it will be for non root user | 14:02 |
| hrw | rye: just want a way to share .dotfiles between my desktop/laptop/servers | 14:03 |
| czajkowski | beuno: congrats | 14:03 |
| beuno | czajkowski, ditto! | 14:03 |
| czajkowski | fun times ahead | 14:03 |
| rye | hrw, 1. get oauth tokens and put them to ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf 2. run ubuntuone-syncdaemon | 14:03 |
| rye | however | 14:03 |
| rye | hrw, .dotfiles are not in a single dir and you will need to symlink them to some location within Ubuntu One folders | 14:04 |
| beuno | czajkowski, indeed! Took me a few minutes to get passed the jetlag and interpret the results | 14:04 |
| rye | hrw, i am using launchpad bzr for my .files with an install script (yeah, manual step) | 14:05 |
| rye | hrw, lp:~rye/+junk/config | 14:05 |
| hrw | rye: ~/U1/dotfiles/.{vim,bashrc,etc} is fine | 14:07 |
| hrw | rye: and I would rather setup own git server then use bzr for it | 14:07 |
| rye | hrw, the problem is that u1 will grab quite a log of X-related stuff to a headless server since it uses some gobject and gtk stuff | 14:08 |
| dobey | well, ubuntu-sso-client will pull the X stuff | 14:09 |
| hrw | rye: I have tens of GB free there still | 14:09 |
| dobey | "ubuntuone-client" binary package doesn't require X | 14:09 |
| hrw | rye: and 200GB space waiting for allocation so few extra deps are not a problem | 14:10 |
| rye | dobey, depends: ubuntu-sso-client | 14:10 |
| dobey | rye: yes | 14:14 |
| dobey | rye: but that /can/ be hacked around | 14:15 |
| taisa | hi, i have a problem with U1 control-gtk, after starting it, it sometimes switches to the status page but quickly returns to the welcome "Register for U1" page. Could somebody pls help me? | 14:15 |
| rye | taisa, hi, could you please tell what you mean by "status" page? | 14:15 |
| dobey | rye: account page | 14:16 |
| taisa | rye: yes, the page, which shows, that U1 is syncing or not and so on | 14:16 |
| dobey | taisa: probably your authentication token was deleted from the server, but you still have it in your local keyring, so it fails to authenticate | 14:16 |
| taisa | dobey: do i have to reinstall U1 or only delete the token in Seahorse? | 14:17 |
| dobey | taisa: just click "already have an account" on the welcome page and sign in again | 14:18 |
| rye | taisa, what is the name of the token in seahorse, by the way? | 14:18 |
| dobey | alecu: btw, it looks like maybe gwibber is what is breaking the keyring in oneiric and causing the weird introspection error :-/ | 14:20 |
| taisa | rye: ubuntu one token for https://ubuntuone.com | 14:20 |
| alecu | dobey, weird! how is it breaking the keyring? | 14:20 |
| dobey | alecu: it seems to be causing creation of default keyring with a translated filename | 14:21 |
| rye | taisa, yes, then in case token has been removed on the server the control panel won't be able to work with it - ubuntu-sso only supports reading these tokens, not upgrading | 14:21 |
| dobey | alecu: see last couple of comments on that bug :) | 14:21 |
| rye | taisa, so if you remove the token and run control panel you will be able to connect | 14:21 |
| taisa | thx | 14:21 |
| alecu | основная.keyring | 14:22 |
| alecu | I wonder what "osnovnaya" means. Probably "default2 | 14:23 |
| alecu | "default" | 14:23 |
| rye | alecu, default, yes... well, "main" but translators differ | 14:23 |
| alecu | hmmm... | 14:25 |
| taisa | rye: i`m feeling really stupid now, thx for your help, using ubuntu comforts me too much^^ | 14:27 |
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| rye | taisa, the old token thing puzzled me too 2 days ago | 14:28 |
| taisa | rye: thx^^ | 14:30 |
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| dobey | alecu: "house liquor" | 14:50 |
| dobey | lunch time, bbiab :) | 15:14 |
| gatox | alecu, ping | 16:48 |
| alecu | gatox, I'm just going to lunch, I'll ping you back when I return. | 16:50 |
| gatox | alecu, ok | 16:52 |
| alecu | gatox, pong | 17:43 |
| gatox | alecu, hi! :P i have this branch for review: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/unicode-issues/+merge/79429 | 17:43 |
| gatox | if you can | 17:43 |
| gatox | alecu, also....... are you the only one here? jeje | 17:44 |
| alecu | gatox, dohbey is around too | 17:46 |
| gatox | dobey, :D can you review this branch please: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/unicode-issues/+merge/79429 | 17:46 |
| dobey | ? | 17:47 |
| gatox | i need reviewers :P | 17:47 |
| dobey | will leave that one to alecu | 17:48 |
| dobey | We don't understand that code well enough to say if it's right or not | 17:49 |
| gatox | dobey, ok, no problem! | 17:50 |
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| j0nr | evening folks | 19:19 |
| dobey | hi | 19:21 |
| j0nr | I need advise for dealing with ubuntuone stuff when wiping a computer for a fresh install of ubuntu | 19:21 |
| j0nr | what to do with my music collection? | 19:21 |
| j0nr | hi dobey | 19:21 |
| dobey | anything you don't want to re-download afterward, you should probably backup locally somewhere | 19:22 |
| dobey | or avoid formatting your home partition | 19:23 |
| j0nr | have to format home. | 19:25 |
| j0nr | i have ~/Music synced | 19:25 |
| j0nr | What order is best to do things if i back up my music locally | 19:26 |
| j0nr | so i don't need to redownload it | 19:26 |
| dobey | copy it to a usb/sd/whatever drive, reboot/install, copy music back, sign in to u1 | 19:26 |
| dobey | don't delete anything out of u1 synchronized folders, while u1 is running/connected, or it will try to delete them on server also | 19:27 |
| dobey | j0nr: and after you sign back in to u1, wait until u1sdtool -s shows "IDLE" for status, before re-subscribing to the ~/Music folder in the control panel | 19:28 |
| j0nr | so empty ~/home empty ~/Music.... I sign into U1 then.... it will sync the contents of the Ubuntu Obe folder I assume.... but not the Music folder? | 19:35 |
| j0nr | is it default behaviour on a new machine to only sync the U1 folder or something? | 19:37 |
| dobey | should do, right. well it will "sync" by checking the metadata for local vs. server, and resolve any differences. there shouldn't be any though | 19:37 |
| j0nr | well my U1 folder will e empty locally on a fresh instal; | 19:37 |
| dobey | j0nr: yes, default is to not subscribe to folders/shares. | 19:37 |
| dobey | u1 folder doesn't exist until you sign in to u1 | 19:38 |
| dobey | then it will synchronize what's in the u1 folder to the local machine | 19:38 |
| j0nr | oh right... So I sign in, U1 folder gets created and synced | 19:38 |
| dobey | yep | 19:38 |
| dobey | j0nr: and when all that's finished, you can subscribed to the music folder again, and u1 will do a few checks, and you should be good | 19:39 |
| dobey | j0nr: keep the back-up until it's all clear though. there are a couple of issues in the client we are working on getting SRUs out for, that were found last-minute, but you should be ok | 19:40 |
| j0nr | as long as I re-populate the Music folder first with the backup, not subscribe it when empty | 19:41 |
| dobey | yeah, if you subscribe with it empty, then u1 will want to download everything again | 19:41 |
| j0nr | how would does it decide that it needs to download everything rather than delete everything on the server? | 19:42 |
| dobey | well, with the folder existing, it will ask to "Merge" the folders. click yes, and after a short period of comparing local to server, you should be good to go | 19:42 |
| dobey | j0nr: because there would be no local metadata for ~/MUsic yet | 19:43 |
| dobey | j0nr: until you set that folder to be synchronized, there won't be any metadata for it, so when you subscribe, it will ask to merge the folders :) | 19:43 |
| j0nr | ah right, cool! and it will do checks and magically realise that all the stuff in the music folder (my backup) is the same and not need to sync anything? | 19:48 |
| dobey | yep. as long as you don't change the files while not inside u1. it hashes the files and compares the hash with what's on the server | 19:49 |
| dobey | so if you change any tags (like play count or anything), the hash will be different | 19:49 |
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| j0nr | cheers dobey | 20:27 |
| dobey | have a good weekend all | 21:07 |
| jderose | dobey: you too :) | 21:19 |
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| x-ip | hi all o/ | 22:20 |
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| gatox | x-ip, hi! | 22:26 |
| x-ip | hi gatox o/ ^^ | 22:37 |
| gatox | x-ip, you are in all the channels :P | 22:37 |
| x-ip | gatox, hehehe, i'm reading ubuntu one client code to learn more about twisted, as a facundobatista_ 's advice ^^ | 22:38 |
| x-ip | so i thought it'd be a good idea to join this channel ^^ | 22:38 |
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| karni | Bye bye! | 23:52 |
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