=== clem_ is now known as clem-l [08:39] Happy morning after, everyone! It's Friday! :D [08:40] hey all - getting a looot of weird issues with u1 today, keeps dropping connection causing it to notify-osd spam me with "there are x files uploading to u1", nothing really seems to make it up to u1 though - lots of weird errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com/707827/ on pretty much all the files its attempting to upload [09:02] hi [09:12] hiya! [09:32] gord, that sounds like something rye would know about [09:32] aloha [09:33] gord: you're breaking things today, I'm sure there are a lot of sore heads today [09:33] aquarius, actually been okay for the last 20 minutes or so, fingers crossed :) [09:33] gord, the exception in question is bug #872924 - we are pushing for it to get fixed, because it is critical [09:33] Launchpad bug 872924 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Resuming a failed upload crashes with ValueError: I/O operation on closed file (affects: 4) (dups: 3) (heat: 42)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872924 [09:33] gord, please click "affects me too" [09:33] rye, awesome :) [09:35] gord, and additionally some users experience slow performance from filesync, the foundations team is working to make servers faster. So this is both a client-side and server-side issue [10:08] Is there an ETA for when ubuntuone will finally work behind proxys? [10:35] Chipaca, ^ is it Precise? [10:35] Lunar_Lamp: not a precise ETA, no [10:36] work is set to start in early November [10:36] estimation hasn't been done yet [10:38] Oh, so it is going to happen. [10:38] That's something at least! [10:42] the change should be released to N and O at least when done (we'll try for L and M also, but it might take a bit longer) [10:43] (that's a british bit, as in a hurricane being "a bit of weather") [10:44] lol [10:44] Well, if there's anything I can do to help with testing etc, I'm semi-desperate. [10:44] I have to sit behind a proxy at work, and thus can't sync with my home system. [10:44] Drives me mad. [10:44] Lunar_Lamp: what kind of proxy is it? [10:44] http/https [10:45] auth'ed? [10:45] No [10:45] phew :) [10:45] Though it wouldn't surprise me if that changes in the future :-( [10:45] that one should be the most straightforward kind to get working [10:45] \o/ [10:45] as long as it doesn't go kerberos or ntlm [10:45] Well, if you could just get started a little ahead of time, and drop me the update this afternoon...? [10:45] ;-) [10:46] at work, do you have windows, or ubuntu? [10:46] Ubuntu [10:46] what release? [10:46] (I'm a linux sysadmin, I refuse to work with anything else) [10:46] As of this morning, 11.10 [10:47] hm. I don't think the old patch will work. But you can try it, if you're confortable patching stuff (i'd recommend --dry-run if you're considering doing it on the system software directly) [10:48] I think https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntuone-client/very-basic-proxy-support-for-stable-1-4 might apply [10:48] but if it breaks, no promises [10:54] Any risk of data loss? [10:54] (realistic) [10:55] I'm happy to play as long as it's n ot likely I'll delete the contents of my home folder or similar. [10:57] sorry, was afk [10:57] um, no, either it works or it doesn't work [10:58] I'll have a play later if I get time :-) [10:58] ok :) [12:30] hello, all! [12:31] alecu, hi! === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [13:07] la la la [13:41] hi [13:43] Can someone tell me how much time does it takes to send 120KB file to u1 from desktop (on 3Mbps upload pipe)? And why it is over half hour :D [13:43] facundobatista, ^ [13:44] Hi hrw [13:44] file has time 15:02, 15:44 is now and I see 4th popup from U1 that it is sending this file [13:45] hrw, the popups are not really trustworhy, you should check the logs to really see what's going on, probably the client is gettind disconnected and reconnected [13:45] facundobatista: where I find logs? [13:45] hrw, ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/ [13:46] http://pastebin.com/W2w765Di [13:47] syncdaemon.log: [13:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/708004/ [13:50] ideas? [13:54] hrw, there are lots of "server connection made" and "server connection lost" messages in that log. [13:54] facundobatista, ^ [13:55] alecu: indeed, wondering why [13:56] rye, facundobatista: there are lots of "ssl handshake failure" on the second log [13:56] mandal: meet the new Ubuntu Community Council http://j.mp/nbeO2q [13:56] rye, any idea if there's a ssl issue with the servers? [13:56] czajkowski, do you mean mandel? [13:57] alecu, redirecting the question to facundobatista [13:57] yes [13:57] mandel: ^^ [13:57] alecu: didnt tab complete [13:57] :-) [13:57] rye, alecu, hrw, we're experiencing some issues in the servers, that's why the reconnections [13:57] ok [13:58] one day I will have to try u1 on headless machines [13:59] czajkowski, are you sure it is mandel, are you talking about Martin Albisetti? [13:59] facundobatista: and thx for log files location info [13:59] czajkowski: that is beuno you mean [13:59] hrw, i had some experience running u1 syncdaemon headless, once dbus session is created it is pretty smooth (provided the servers are cooperating) [14:00] rye: I want it to run on bootup [14:01] no I was letting mandel know [14:01] beuno: is ona plane [14:01] but he should also be told also [14:02] hrw, it is still required to have some user, root is not recommended, and it can operate within $HOME of that user [14:02] czajkowski, landed 2 hours ago. Also, \o/ [14:02] rye: it will be for non root user [14:03] rye: just want a way to share .dotfiles between my desktop/laptop/servers [14:03] beuno: congrats [14:03] czajkowski, ditto! [14:03] fun times ahead [14:03] hrw, 1. get oauth tokens and put them to ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf 2. run ubuntuone-syncdaemon [14:03] however [14:04] hrw, .dotfiles are not in a single dir and you will need to symlink them to some location within Ubuntu One folders [14:04] czajkowski, indeed! Took me a few minutes to get passed the jetlag and interpret the results [14:05] hrw, i am using launchpad bzr for my .files with an install script (yeah, manual step) [14:05] hrw, lp:~rye/+junk/config [14:07] rye: ~/U1/dotfiles/.{vim,bashrc,etc} is fine [14:07] rye: and I would rather setup own git server then use bzr for it [14:08] hrw, the problem is that u1 will grab quite a log of X-related stuff to a headless server since it uses some gobject and gtk stuff [14:09] well, ubuntu-sso-client will pull the X stuff [14:09] rye: I have tens of GB free there still [14:09] "ubuntuone-client" binary package doesn't require X [14:10] rye: and 200GB space waiting for allocation so few extra deps are not a problem [14:10] dobey, depends: ubuntu-sso-client [14:14] rye: yes [14:15] rye: but that /can/ be hacked around [14:15] hi, i have a problem with U1 control-gtk, after starting it, it sometimes switches to the status page but quickly returns to the welcome "Register for U1" page. Could somebody pls help me? [14:15] taisa, hi, could you please tell what you mean by "status" page? [14:16] rye: account page [14:16] rye: yes, the page, which shows, that U1 is syncing or not and so on [14:16] taisa: probably your authentication token was deleted from the server, but you still have it in your local keyring, so it fails to authenticate [14:17] dobey: do i have to reinstall U1 or only delete the token in Seahorse? [14:18] taisa: just click "already have an account" on the welcome page and sign in again [14:18] taisa, what is the name of the token in seahorse, by the way? [14:20] alecu: btw, it looks like maybe gwibber is what is breaking the keyring in oneiric and causing the weird introspection error :-/ [14:20] rye: ubuntu one token for https://ubuntuone.com [14:20] dobey, weird! how is it breaking the keyring? [14:21] alecu: it seems to be causing creation of default keyring with a translated filename [14:21] taisa, yes, then in case token has been removed on the server the control panel won't be able to work with it - ubuntu-sso only supports reading these tokens, not upgrading [14:21] alecu: see last couple of comments on that bug :) [14:21] taisa, so if you remove the token and run control panel you will be able to connect [14:21] thx [14:22] основная.keyring [14:23] I wonder what "osnovnaya" means. Probably "default2 [14:23] "default" [14:23] alecu, default, yes... well, "main" but translators differ [14:25] hmmm... [14:27] rye: i`m feeling really stupid now, thx for your help, using ubuntu comforts me too much^^ === zyga-afk is now known as zyga [14:28] taisa, the old token thing puzzled me too 2 days ago [14:30] rye: thx^^ === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:50] alecu: "house liquor" [15:14] lunch time, bbiab :) [16:48] alecu, ping [16:50] gatox, I'm just going to lunch, I'll ping you back when I return. [16:52] alecu, ok [17:43] gatox, pong [17:43] alecu, hi! :P i have this branch for review: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/unicode-issues/+merge/79429 [17:43] if you can [17:44] alecu, also....... are you the only one here? jeje [17:46] gatox, dohbey is around too [17:46] dobey, :D can you review this branch please: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/unicode-issues/+merge/79429 [17:47] ? [17:47] i need reviewers :P [17:48] will leave that one to alecu [17:49] We don't understand that code well enough to say if it's right or not [17:50] dobey, ok, no problem! === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [19:19] evening folks [19:21] hi [19:21] I need advise for dealing with ubuntuone stuff when wiping a computer for a fresh install of ubuntu [19:21] what to do with my music collection? [19:21] hi dobey [19:22] anything you don't want to re-download afterward, you should probably backup locally somewhere [19:23] or avoid formatting your home partition [19:25] have to format home. [19:25] i have ~/Music synced [19:26] What order is best to do things if i back up my music locally [19:26] so i don't need to redownload it [19:26] copy it to a usb/sd/whatever drive, reboot/install, copy music back, sign in to u1 [19:27] don't delete anything out of u1 synchronized folders, while u1 is running/connected, or it will try to delete them on server also [19:28] j0nr: and after you sign back in to u1, wait until u1sdtool -s shows "IDLE" for status, before re-subscribing to the ~/Music folder in the control panel [19:35] so empty ~/home empty ~/Music.... I sign into U1 then.... it will sync the contents of the Ubuntu Obe folder I assume.... but not the Music folder? [19:37] is it default behaviour on a new machine to only sync the U1 folder or something? [19:37] should do, right. well it will "sync" by checking the metadata for local vs. server, and resolve any differences. there shouldn't be any though [19:37] well my U1 folder will e empty locally on a fresh instal; [19:37] j0nr: yes, default is to not subscribe to folders/shares. [19:38] u1 folder doesn't exist until you sign in to u1 [19:38] then it will synchronize what's in the u1 folder to the local machine [19:38] oh right... So I sign in, U1 folder gets created and synced [19:38] yep [19:39] j0nr: and when all that's finished, you can subscribed to the music folder again, and u1 will do a few checks, and you should be good [19:40] j0nr: keep the back-up until it's all clear though. there are a couple of issues in the client we are working on getting SRUs out for, that were found last-minute, but you should be ok [19:41] as long as I re-populate the Music folder first with the backup, not subscribe it when empty [19:41] yeah, if you subscribe with it empty, then u1 will want to download everything again [19:42] how would does it decide that it needs to download everything rather than delete everything on the server? [19:42] well, with the folder existing, it will ask to "Merge" the folders. click yes, and after a short period of comparing local to server, you should be good to go [19:43] j0nr: because there would be no local metadata for ~/MUsic yet [19:43] j0nr: until you set that folder to be synchronized, there won't be any metadata for it, so when you subscribe, it will ask to merge the folders :) [19:48] ah right, cool! and it will do checks and magically realise that all the stuff in the music folder (my backup) is the same and not need to sync anything? [19:49] yep. as long as you don't change the files while not inside u1. it hashes the files and compares the hash with what's on the server [19:49] so if you change any tags (like play count or anything), the hash will be different === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:27] cheers dobey [21:07] have a good weekend all [21:19] dobey: you too :) === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:20] hi all o/ === herb__ is now known as herb [22:26] x-ip, hi! [22:37] hi gatox o/ ^^ [22:37] x-ip, you are in all the channels :P [22:38] gatox, hehehe, i'm reading ubuntu one client code to learn more about twisted, as a facundobatista_ 's advice ^^ [22:38] so i thought it'd be a good idea to join this channel ^^ === eu is now known as Guest10490 === Guest10490 is now known as adorilson [23:52] Bye bye!