| abogani | It sounds cool | 06:07 |
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| * falktx is creating a live-dvd US image | 07:33 | |
| falktx | hey there | 07:33 |
| falktx | i see the new downloads, cool | 07:38 |
| falktx | US image works! | 08:48 |
| falktx | live-dvd!! | 08:48 |
| knome | :) | 08:48 |
| abogani | falktx: Great! | 09:36 |
| holstein | fr-z: sure | 11:58 |
| holstein | welcome | 11:59 |
| fr-z | hi :) | 11:59 |
| holstein | also, helping in the IRC channel/forums | 12:00 |
| fr-z | sure i will give my best :) | 12:05 |
| fr-z | do you use xchat? | 12:05 |
| holstein | im using irssi running in screen | 12:07 |
| holstein | xchat is nice | 12:07 |
| fr-z | i am trying to setup this so it performs the commands to identify and join channels auto. It seams to be on a file | 12:18 |
| holstein | prolly, i have just done it from the GUI like http://xchat.org/faq/#q23 | 12:19 |
| holstein | irssi autojoins from a file i made | 12:20 |
| fr-z | any reason why you use urssi instead of xchat? | 12:34 |
| holstein | sure | 12:35 |
| holstein | it runs in the console | 12:35 |
| holstein | i can run it in screen on my server, and connect back in with ssh | 12:35 |
| holstein | i just leave it running and connect back in from where ever i want | 12:36 |
| fr-z | ahh like a bnc | 12:37 |
| holstein | bnc? | 12:38 |
| scott-work | hi fr-z and holstein :) | 12:49 |
| scott-work | holstein: can we talk a bit at your leisure about 12.04 and what we want? | 12:49 |
| TheMuso | scott-work: Great to hear you are going to UDS, looking forward to meeting you. | 12:52 |
| scott-work | thank you TheMuso , i am looking forward as well :) | 13:07 |
| scott-work | although i feel that i have some substantial work ahead of me for the next release given the arguable failure or deficencies of 11.10 :( | 13:08 |
| fr-z | sorry holstein went for a lunch break ^^ a bnc is a kind of an irc bot/server that you have running on a server. Then when you login you make it to your server and not to the global server. That way you are online 24/7 and you connect to the bot anytime you want | 13:44 |
| holstein | interesting... yeah, its something like that then | 13:44 |
| holstein | i have a bot running on this server too in screen | 13:44 |
| fr-z | true | 13:46 |
| fr-z | thats cool | 13:46 |
| fr-z | here you have a list of bounces. that way we can use any irc client | 13:47 |
| fr-z | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_%28software%29 | 13:47 |
| fr-z | lol | 13:48 |
| fr-z | one of them its yours ^ | 13:48 |
| fr-z | :) | 13:48 |
| fr-z | hi scott-work i was afk | 13:48 |
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| sd_ubuntu___ | Hi! | 16:29 |
| fr-z | Hi m8 | 16:30 |
| sd_ubuntu___ | :-) | 16:30 |
| sd_ubuntu___ | Could I help u in your work? | 16:31 |
| sd_ubuntu___ | Hi! I'm new at ubuntu community and I'd like to give my contribute. Holstein (now I seem its not here) invited me for give an help here. Is there some work that I could start now with you? | 16:34 |
| fr-z | have you made your registration already on the links i sent you earlier? | 16:36 |
| sd_ubuntu___ | yes, in development | 16:36 |
| fr-z | nice | 16:38 |
| fr-z | i think that after you confirm your mail youl start to recieve things | 16:39 |
| sd_ubuntu___ | ah, ok.... thank u! :-) | 16:42 |
| sd_ubuntu___ | so, i wait | 16:42 |
| sd_ubuntu___ | now i have to go | 16:42 |
| sd_ubuntu___ | see u soon!! | 16:42 |
| scott-work | bah, webchat.freenode.net dropped me again | 17:58 |
| fr-z | ^^ | 18:15 |
| fr-z | any team manager online? | 18:16 |
| scott-work | fr-z: yes, i'm here | 18:17 |
| fr-z | hi scott how are you. i already subscribed to the devel list. but how can i see on what you need help? I can help designing and concept usability Interfaces (if you need ofc). | 18:19 |
| scott-work | fr-z: let me find a link | 18:25 |
| fr-z | thank you | 18:25 |
| scott-work | this is what i had started but i hadn't done much on it | 18:26 |
| scott-work | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ContributeToDevelopment | 18:26 |
| scott-work | to be honest, we are at the end of the cycle and there's not much to do currently for most upcoming items | 18:26 |
| scott-work | however.... | 18:27 |
| scott-work | i expect development to pretty feverish and rapid during the next cycle and we will require a lot of testing | 18:27 |
| scott-work | so we will certainly need testing assistence when it all starts | 18:28 |
| scott-work | fr-z: i will also say that we probably need to update an application (ubuntustudio-controls) which could certainly use a new UI | 18:28 |
| scott-work | however, that project still needs to have in depth discussion about the purpose and design of the application needs to be going forward since many things have changed systemically | 18:29 |
| scott-work | in some cases, some functionality has been precluded by systemic changes in jack | 18:29 |
| scott-work | fr-z: any questions or comments? | 18:31 |
| fr-z | i will reply in a sec i am reading the page also | 18:32 |
| fr-z | i was also instaling ubuntustudio-controls to check how was the UI of it | 18:34 |
| fr-z | i can see that you also need help on the theme and maybe on the site layout? | 18:35 |
| scott-work | fr-z: i can give you some particulars about the theme | 18:38 |
| fr-z | that would be nice. | 18:39 |
| scott-work | fr-z: knome is working currently on the new website layout although i cannot speak to whether he would want or need assistance | 18:39 |
| fr-z | ok | 18:39 |
| scott-work | sorry, i'm at work so the pauses are when i need to address soemthing | 18:43 |
| fr-z | np i am still at the agency aswell | 18:44 |
| scott-work | fr-z: are you familiar with the xubuntu theme? i think it is based on the thunderbird theme? | 18:44 |
| scott-work | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TbqXvD4wEDI/AAAAAAAAENU/dv_zS0XwUCM/xubuntu-11.04_2.png | 18:46 |
| fr-z | i am a zero coder. I work on layouts and interfaces. I basicly develope the visual concept and usability skeleton of interfaces | 18:46 |
| scott-work | this is fairly representative | 18:46 |
| scott-work | fr-z: okay, can i use vague terms to describe an effect then? | 18:46 |
| fr-z | sure | 18:46 |
| scott-work | my philosophy is that a pretty or fancy desktop is a distraction from doing pretty and fancy work ;) | 18:48 |
| scott-work | i think the desktop should not draw attention but be completely functional | 18:48 |
| scott-work | transparent but accessible, perhaps | 18:48 |
| fr-z | thats why usability exists, its to serve those needs :) | 18:49 |
| scott-work | i like the xubuntu 11.04 theme because it has an understated simplicity that allows you to function | 18:49 |
| scott-work | there are some thing i would change, but i'll mention those later | 18:50 |
| scott-work | if the target audience is to be users new to ubuntu/linux then we should maintain the expect desktop paradigm | 18:50 |
| scott-work | i.e. no unity or gnome3 | 18:50 |
| scott-work | xfce is a light weight and still developed alternative to gnome-panel that maintains the familiar desktop paradigm | 18:51 |
| scott-work | i would prefer neutral colors but perhpas this is the wrong adjective | 18:51 |
| scott-work | by neutral i mean that it doesn't attract attention | 18:51 |
| scott-work | so i would prefer grey (or gray as americans spell it), dark grey, or black for colors | 18:52 |
| fr-z | unity and gnome 3 are an insult to usability. I have a graphic station runing it and i will format if soon. On a well organized UI you work fast. On those you take too much time to swap between apps and the workflow is very bad | 18:52 |
| scott-work | i would like the window dressing to be uncluttered with fifteen jabillion window options...three buttons should suffice | 18:52 |
| scott-work | fr-z: agreed! especially for audio work where you will have at least five active windows and perhaps as much as twenty with synth work! | 18:53 |
| scott-work | the desktop wallpaper should be fairly homogenous and not cluttered | 18:53 |
| fr-z | fully agree | 18:54 |
| scott-work | a simple logo design that is unobtrusive would be acceptable if tacitly placed in a corner perhaps | 18:54 |
| fr-z | who has a long work day on a station will need to feel the UI ans a structure that supports the apps | 18:54 |
| fr-z | i think the paradigm should be maintained. Not only for those that work on audio or graphics but, as you mentioned, on new users. Ppl i installed ubuntu where very happy and working on it. Now with unity they are on panic and cant work. Some are getting back to windos | 18:57 |
| fr-z | thats why unity is a fail | 18:57 |
| fr-z | not even talking about the left bar. | 18:57 |
| fr-z | when you work, you need an harmony, and a strong bar pushing the view to one side of the UI, like on unity, is not good for a designer | 18:58 |
| fr-z | the workflow is needed, the simplicity | 18:58 |
| scott-work | i would posit that those who work with keystrokes instead of mouse can function very well with gnome3 or unity still, but that is not the majority of users though | 18:59 |
| scott-work | especially new ones to linux | 18:59 |
| fr-z | true | 19:00 |
| scott-work | i used unity for several months on my laptop, same with gnome3 | 19:00 |
| scott-work | i didn't like it very much although i found gnome3 slightly more usable with the "hot corner" and more than four workspaces | 19:00 |
| scott-work | but as far as specifics for a theme, i can't offer much more than what i have already mentioned | 19:01 |
| scott-work | although i can offer a link to the most recent theme that i liked: http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Ambiance+dark?content=132875 | 19:02 |
| fr-z | thats about the same i use :) | 19:03 |
| scott-work | not theme related but i think we might also want to reconsider our menu to ensure it is simplified | 19:03 |
| fr-z | how can i help? i make a sketch "screenshot" and send to you ? | 19:04 |
| scott-work | i think that could be extremely helpful :) | 19:04 |
| fr-z | nice | 19:04 |
| fr-z | how can i do it? | 19:05 |
| scott-work | send the "screenshot" to me? my email is scottalavender@gmail.com | 19:05 |
| scott-work | someone did suggest we use an existing theme to minimize our efforts but i haven't found a theme that is quite there | 19:06 |
| fr-z | i will work on it and will send it to you as soon as i can | 19:10 |
| fr-z | i will go to have dinner now i will get back later thank you for the help :) | 19:11 |
| scott-work | greybird was the theme used for xubuntu 11.04, i'm not sure what is being used for 11.10 but i will find out tongith when i install it ;) | 19:11 |
| scott-work | okay, thank you fr-z | 19:11 |
| fr-z | ;) | 19:12 |
| sd_ubuntu_ | Hi! | 20:16 |
| sd_ubuntu_ | it takes much time before to start? | 20:17 |
| sd_ubuntu_ | (sorry for my english :-) ) | 20:17 |
| fr-z | hi | 22:41 |
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