| apachelogger | debfx: oh, it does require a >= ? :/ | 00:34 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | needs some looking into | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | but I suppose we can always inject something via debhelper | 00:34 |
| apachelogger | misc:depends can be abused for that most likely | 00:34 |
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| claydoh | http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3118699.0;topicseen | 03:55 |
| valorie | stuff like that is so cool to read! | 04:55 |
| valorie | thanks for linking it, claydoh | 04:55 |
| claydoh | valorie I think so too, it sure offsets a lot of the yelling and name calling :) | 06:11 |
| valorie | I was too busy to being in #kubuntu yesterday -- was there yelling and name-calling? | 06:12 |
| jussi | valorie: have you not seen the ML? | 06:17 |
| valorie | oooo, no | 06:34 |
| * valorie goes to read | 06:34 | |
| jussi | valorie: you might come away depressed... | 06:36 |
| valorie | my goodness, I was sort of dreading it, true | 06:37 |
| valorie | this Marcus person | 06:37 |
| valorie | ugh | 06:37 |
| valorie | markus | 06:38 |
| valorie | why is he on our list? | 06:38 |
| valorie | geez | 06:38 |
| valorie | ah, on mod | 06:39 |
| valorie | good | 06:39 |
| valorie | too late, but better late than never | 06:39 |
| valorie | I agree with txwikinger - we need a focus on quality and stabilty for Precise | 06:43 |
| valorie | not new bells and whistles | 06:43 |
| valorie | much as I love bells | 06:43 |
| debfx | apachelogger: we could set misc:Pre-Depends but must packages don't use that | 07:57 |
| markey | upgrade to Kubuntu 11.10 is taking its good time, but mostly because I overlooked a dialog that came up behind my browser window... gah | 08:54 |
| markey | "Replace custom config file XY with newer version?" | 08:54 |
| markey | possibly a usability issue I think? | 08:54 |
| markey | clicking on the KPackageKit icon in the taskbar also does not bring its dialogs into the foreground | 08:59 |
| markey | s/taskbar/systray | 08:59 |
| markey | taskbar works | 08:59 |
| markey | ok, rebooted | 09:04 |
| markey | seems to have worked | 09:04 |
| markey | but Gwibber comes up with half of its icons missing | 09:04 |
| apachelogger | damn, now I missed martin -.- | 09:15 |
| apachelogger | markey: what icons would those be? | 09:15 |
| apachelogger | supposedly you need to install gnome-icon-theme or whatever it is called | 09:15 |
| apachelogger | debfx: or simply inject it into the target control file ;) | 09:16 |
| debfx | apachelogger: yeah but how? dpkg-gencontrol has a -D option ("Override or add an output control file field.") but we want to append something to pre-depends instead of overriding it | 09:18 |
| markey | apachelogger: the icons at the top | 09:19 |
| markey | how do you call this again | 09:19 |
| markey | below menu | 09:19 |
| apachelogger | toolbar icons? | 09:19 |
| markey | yes | 09:19 |
| markey | two of them are there | 09:19 |
| markey | the rest shows the "missing icon" icon | 09:19 |
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| apachelogger | markey: yeah, probaly gnome icon stuff missing | 09:32 |
| * apachelogger reads 11.10 reviews | 09:35 | |
| * yofel wonders how to use oxygen-gtk3 | 09:37 | |
| yofel | hm, ok, got it "working" - it completely ignores my color scheme though | 09:41 |
| yofel | at least it looks better than gtk1 style | 09:41 |
| schnelle | guys... sometimes chromium doesn't start : nikola@testbox:~$ chromium-browser | 09:42 |
| schnelle | Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" | 09:42 |
| yofel | schnelle: libcanberra-gtk-module installed? | 09:43 |
| schnelle | yes, but gtk3 module | 09:44 |
| apachelogger | chromium uses gtk2 though | 09:44 |
| schnelle | this is clean install on my test partition | 09:45 |
| yofel | this shouldn't be a fatal error though from what I know... | 09:46 |
| yofel | yep, here chromium works even without that lib | 09:46 |
| markey | apachelogger: i A gnome-icon-theme | 09:48 |
| markey | it's installed | 09:48 |
| markey | does it need -extras? or -full? | 09:48 |
| markey | oh wow, Gwibber's config UI redefines minimalism. I actually like that though | 09:50 |
| markey | I'm a fan of keeping number of options as low as possible | 09:50 |
| apachelogger | markey: no idea, really depends on the icons, but I suppose the more you have installed the better | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | plus I'd report a bug against gwibber | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | clearly there is something not as cross desktop as it should be | 09:57 |
| yofel | yay... polkit-kde-1 crashed. *sigh* | 10:23 |
| yofel | and doesn't seem to restart by itself... | 10:24 |
| ghostcube | hmm hi folks, after upgrading my plasma-desktop is crashing if i edit my environment with mini apps wallpaper and so on, i got an full backtrace for the crash | 10:33 |
| ghostcube | anyone want maybe to look at it? | 10:33 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | show us the backtrace | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | chances are it is a widget that causes the crash | 10:34 |
| ghostcube | here we go | 10:35 |
| ghostcube | http://pastie.org/2699883 | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | ghostcube: #6 WicdNetworkManager::createNetworkInterface (this=0x7ffff2889410, uni=...) at ../../../solid/wicd/networkmanager.cpp:165 | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | try not using wicd | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | and file a bug at bugs.kde.org | 10:42 |
| ghostcube | i did already | 10:42 |
| ghostcube | ok will take out wicd | 10:42 |
| ghostcube | thx so far :) | 10:43 |
| bulldog98 | there was a new rekonq release where should I put the package for testing in? updates? | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | wendar: Hotel ack'd delivery | 11:32 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: How will we communicate with you once we land? :P | 11:35 |
| shadeslayer | know any place where we can meetup with you? ( in the airport itself ) | 11:36 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Wait, what are you talking about, no UDS for u, right? | 14:05 |
| bambee | hi | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | bambee: \o | 15:24 |
| bambee | congrats to the team for this great release btw <3 | 15:37 |
| GirlyGirl | Broken link in #kubuntu topic "https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Final/Kubuntu/Kmai" should be "https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Final/Kubuntu/Kmail" | 15:41 |
| mfraz74 | GirlyGirl: is there a size limit to the topic? | 15:42 |
| GirlyGirl | mfraz74: I don't know | 15:43 |
| mfraz74 | GirlyGirl: should be https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Final/Kubuntu/Kmail2 | 15:47 |
| GirlyGirl | mfraz74: Ah yes | 15:47 |
| sharpshooter | Haii all !! I install kubuntu desktop in my ubuntu 11.10 box ...and I need to uninstall the kubuntu desktop | 16:29 |
| === bambee is now known as bambee_ | ||
| sheytan | hey | 17:04 |
| sheytan | if i upgrade from natty to oneiric and have kontact from experimental already installed, will i have problems with it, too? | 17:04 |
| yofel | shouldn't - as that's already 4.7 | 17:05 |
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| bulldog98 | sheytan: since I had experimental too (but on oneiric) it will work :) | 17:43 |
| bulldog98 | or was it natty back then | 17:43 |
| sheytan | bulldog98: is it worth an upgrade to oneiric? | 17:44 |
| sheytan | besides new digikam and de 4.7.2 nothing new :*( | 17:44 |
| GirlyGirl | sheytan: I think it is | 17:44 |
| sheytan | :( | 17:44 |
| GirlyGirl | sheytan: Performance wise I find it a nice upgrade | 17:45 |
| sheytan | GirlyGirl: well, my machine is fast enough yet :) | 17:47 |
| sheytan | maybe i will upgrade to lts | 17:47 |
| sheytan | so in april or so | 17:47 |
| GirlyGirl | sheytan: See for yourself ... but its no big deal doing a dist-upgrade | 17:48 |
| * sheytan is afraid something might go wrong and brake his amazing desktop/apps/config setup :D | 17:50 | |
| sheytan | happned once | 17:50 |
| GirlyGirl | sheytan: If you already have KDE 4.7X there should be no problem | 17:51 |
| sheytan | GirlyGirl: there shouldn't be at all. Well, i'm not scared at all, this was kinda a joke, but don't really see good reason to upgrade :) | 17:54 |
| GirlyGirl | sheytan: So later on no early kde 4.8 for you :d | 17:55 |
| yofel | + no 4.7 bugfixes. 4.7.2 will be the last point release I'll backport to natty | 17:56 |
| sheytan | yofel good you do :) | 17:57 |
| yofel | I'll backport them as soon as we have them in oneiric-updates | 17:57 |
| yofel | otherwise we'll get upgrade failures again like we did with maverick and 4.5.3 | 17:57 |
| sheytan | GirlyGirl: there's one cool feature awaiting me already: disabling scrollbars completly :D (hell yeah!) | 17:57 |
| GirlyGirl | http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2011/10/disappointments-of-kubuntu-1110.html .... someone seems disgruntled, the comments there are positive though | 17:59 |
| yofel | the release has good and no so good points, agreed. I don't think we did too bad though considering how many people worked on it | 17:59 |
| claydoh | GirlyGirl: that guy only tests out live sessions, and doesn't really like Kubutu iirc :/ | 18:00 |
| yofel | *sigh* - there's nothing we can do about users being disappointed we don't ship more than one default wallpaper | 18:03 |
| yofel | we have no freakin' space!! | 18:03 |
| GirlyGirl | yofel: maybe a DVD release for people who want a more complete OS | 18:05 |
| yofel | GirlyGirl: we already have that... | 18:05 |
| yofel | people somehow just tend to not find it | 18:06 |
| yofel | hm, I know why it fails to shutdown with smbfs mounted | 18:10 |
| yofel | the wireless network is disconnected as soon as you log out, and later umount hangs hard on syncing the now unavailable smb mount | 18:10 |
| yofel | not sure why it never times out | 18:11 |
| GirlyGirl | I thought the dvd was just language packs | 18:11 |
| yofel | GirlyGirl: not really, you can for example compare the depencies of kubuntu-desktop with the deps of kubuntu-full | 18:13 |
| claydoh | well on kubuntuforums there aren't as many kmail related issues as I might have thought so far, just the ususal upgrade problems that seem to crop up relating to video drivers, etc. | 18:29 |
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| yofel | neither in #kubuntu actually. There were a few people that had issues and I pointed them to the kmail release notes | 18:32 |
| yofel | haven't heard much from them after that | 18:32 |
| GirlyGirl | yofel: I've been pointing them to that again and again lots of people keep comming for that | 18:33 |
| yofel | hm, I'm missing out on some of the busy times then | 18:34 |
| GirlyGirl | But its decreasing ... there are a few no sound after upgrade complaints but I guess that's not kubuntu specific | 18:35 |
| yofel | depends, some of those are phonon selecting the wrong output device | 18:35 |
| yofel | which I'm not sure why it happens | 18:35 |
| wendar | shadeslayer: great! (ack'd delivery) | 18:47 |
| debfx | yofel: I think the live part of the dvd has basically the same packages as the cd | 18:52 |
| yofel | hm, I need to take another look at the seeds then | 18:53 |
| debfx | which is why I think we should transform the dvd to an <2GB usb image like ubuntu | 18:53 |
| yofel | why <2G? I would rather have all of KDE on it and make it < 4GiB | 18:54 |
| debfx | do you think many users want to have all of kde installed on their system? | 18:56 |
| yofel | good question | 18:57 |
| debfx | I think 2GB is enough to fit the more popular applications and a bunch of language packs on it | 18:58 |
| yofel | firefox? | 18:58 |
| debfx | yeah firefox and an image editor | 19:01 |
| * yofel got a kernel panick o.O | 19:04 | |
| bambee | yofel: nouveau ? | 19:05 |
| yofel | nope, intel - but I think it was more related to a very high system load while I was compiling something | 19:05 |
| bambee | my system is just unusable with nouveau here (4 kernel panic today) | 19:05 |
| yofel | this was my eeePC and I had ext4 symbols in the panic trace | 19:06 |
| bambee | o.O | 19:06 |
| BarkingFish | woohoo!!!! | 19:09 |
| BarkingFish | After 125 minutes of the most nailbiting stuff I've ever been through, I *finally* have oneiric :) | 19:10 |
| nusch_ | hi, could someone explain me why the dist upgrade sets managed=false in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf | 19:29 |
| nusch_ | ? If kubuntu is desktop system why someone would need to bother with manual console configuration / | 19:29 |
| * yofel wonders why nepomukindexer is indexing already indexed files o.O | 19:45 | |
| debfx | yofel: have you read the latest blog post about nepomuk performance? | 19:53 |
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| yofel | debfx: not yet | 19:56 |
| valorie | ooo, you won't have a working phone, will you shadeslayer? | 19:58 |
| valorie | do you have WhatsApp ? | 20:00 |
| valorie | I'll send you the dealieo | 20:00 |
| valorie | should work with wifi, if SFO has wifi | 20:00 |
| valorie | let's find out if it does | 20:01 |
| valorie | yes | 20:01 |
| valorie | will one of you have a phone for that? | 20:02 |
| nusch_ | I have network-manager running, can see it's proberly detects wifi network in dbus viewer, but plasma applet shows no connections, wireless is grayed, on wired I can see only ifup(eth0), ifup(wlan0) http://pastebin.pl/48602 where is the problem? | 20:10 |
| nusch_ | this happened after upgrade to 11.10 | 20:11 |
| yofel | debfx: what I don't get is why the nepomukindexer processes end up consuming (or causing) SYS cpu usage, that seems to disable their nice level so they consume most of my eeePC's CPU time | 20:12 |
| Riddell | nusch_: I guess that means we don't know, and user support is in #kubuntu | 20:21 |
| Riddell | hmm, markus sent another not very helpful rant to the mailing list, I think I'll reject | 20:23 |
| nusch_ | Riddell: and what about my first question - it's a general problem, I'm asking this question on launchpad with every release and problem still exists.. | 20:24 |
| Riddell | nusch_: I don't know I'm afraid, network manager daemon package is maintained by the ubuntu desktop team | 20:25 |
| nusch_ | Riddell: ok thx | 20:26 |
| CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506) | 20:52 |
| === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde | ||
| debfx | yofel: no idea about that, you could try to build the latest kde-runtime 4.7 snapshot | 20:57 |
| yofel | meaning I should enable strigi in neon and see what happens | 20:58 |
| yofel | I doubt there's going to change much in 4.7 | 20:58 |
| debfx | https://trueg.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/taking-a-break-from-crash-fixing-for-usability/ says it's all backported to 4.7 | 21:00 |
| yofel | ah, then I'll try it | 21:00 |
| yofel | ok, I WILL try it | 21:02 |
| debfx | yofel: these are some packages I would put on an usb image: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708943/ | 21:13 |
| yofel | debfx: hm, I know gwenview has a scan plugin - do we need skanlite? | 21:16 |
| debfx | yofel: from kipi-plugins? | 21:17 |
| yofel | not sure, if it is we'll need skanlite then | 21:18 |
| bulldog98_ | yofel: I’d like to get libreoffice replaced by calligra, since it make an amazing progress | 21:46 |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| yofel | come again once calligra has been released and calligra-word stops chopping of piecies of the characters | 21:47 |
| bulldog98 | also kile would be nice, but I know that this won’t happen since texlive needs to much space | 21:48 |
| bulldog98 | btw why is ktikz in debian but not in ubuntu archive? | 21:49 |
| yofel | what's that? | 21:55 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: a tool to create latex (tikz package) graphics (texdoc pgf) | 22:01 |
| yofel | bulldog98: it probably got into debian after debianimportfreeze | 22:02 |
| bulldog98 | maybe | 22:02 |
| yofel | should get synced from wheezy soon | 22:02 |
| bulldog98 | yeah :) | 22:02 |
| bulldog98 | for the mean time I did an oneiric repackaging | 22:02 |
| yofel | well, to make sure you could file a manual sync request | 22:03 |
| yofel | but I guess it's too soon for that | 22:03 |
| CIA-130 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalzium] Philip Muškovac * 19 * debian/changelog New upstream release (LP: #872506) | 22:11 |
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