[00:00] <KM0201> well, partial success
[01:35] <austin> hello
[01:35] <austin> would anyone mind helping me?
[01:36] <Guest13605> hello?
[01:37] <masaharustin> hello, would someone mind helping me?
[01:40] <masaharustin> what is the lubuntu netbook desktop?
[01:41] <Unit193> It's just another view of things, try it to find out
[01:42] <masaharustin> what?
[01:42] <masaharustin> oh nvm, i was asking because i could not log into it
[01:42] <Unit193> Odd, I'll try it next VBox install
[01:43] <masaharustin> the only desktops i can log into are default, lxde, lubuntu, and openbox (just freezes up)
[02:53] <tzhuang> anyone here use QQ chat?
[02:54] <tzhuang> or rahter anyone have it working in lubuntu?
[02:55] <Unit193> Pidgin should support it
[02:57] <tzhuang> hmmm i can't seem to find it in the accounts selection
[02:57] <tzhuang> for the pidgin that comes bundled with lubuntu 11.10 anyway
[03:00] <Unit193> It's listed as supported, but I have never used QQ :P  Take a look at http://code.google.com/p/libqq-pidgin/
[03:03] <Unit193> tzhuang: "Note: Kopete, old versions of Pidgin, and any other client whose QQ support is based on libpurple no longer supports QQ as of May 2011"
[03:10] <tzhuang> Unit193:  doh, thanks a lot for your help
[03:14] <KM0201> whats QQ?
[03:15] <Unit193> KM0201: China talk network
[03:15] <KM0201> oh ok
[04:06] <wxl> KM0201: did u get it worrking?
[04:08] <KM0201> wxl: sort of
[04:08] <wxl> how so?
[04:08] <KM0201> i ended up install GDM, which works fine (even if a bit bloated)
[04:08] <KM0201> only problem is, i can't figure out how to configure it... and when it loads up, it's just a black screen, w/ a window to choose a username
[04:08] <KM0201> which.. in reality, is fine... i'd just like it to be a "little" better.. if i could just make that background blue, or some color other than black, it'd be gold
[04:08] <KM0201> i'll look into it more tomorrow.
[04:08] <KM0201> got tired of dealing w/ it
[04:09] <wxl> theming howto: http://slim.berlios.de/themes_howto.php
[04:09] <wxl> config is /us/etc/slim.conf
[04:10] <KM0201> hmm, i'll check that out.
[04:10] <wxl> values are here http://slim.berlios.de/manual.php
[04:13] <bodhizazen> slim is very very easy to theme
[04:14] <KM0201> yeah, but does it allow you to click a username?
[04:15] <wxl> what i was thinking was make dad the auto use
[04:15] <wxl> that way it automatically selects his name
[04:15] <KM0201> oh i see
[04:15] <wxl> all he has to do is enter password
[04:15] <KM0201> that may work
[04:15] <wxl> since sis don't care, she can click to login as different user
[04:16] <bodhizazen> I do not think slim will do that
[04:16] <bodhizazen> If you have multiple users, personally I would use gdm, switch users is very handy
[04:17] <bodhizazen> you can configure slim to auto login
[04:17] <KM0201> bodhizazen: yeah, i got that working, like i said, i just can't figure out how to configure the background on gdm from lxde
[04:17] <wxl> he doesn't want auto login
[04:17] <KM0201> i don't want auto login
[04:17] <wxl> he wantss it to be REALLY EASY for one user
[04:17] <KM0201> exactly
[04:17] <wxl> but still require an authenticated login
[04:18] <bodhizazen> oic, slim will do that
[04:18] <KM0201> yea... i'll figure somethng out.
[04:18] <bodhizazen> the config file is well commented =)
[04:19] <KM0201> GDM works, if i figure out how to make it just *a little* better, the black background is a bit much, if i could just change it to a blue, or something, it'd b efine, but even the black will work, if necessary
[04:20] <bodhizazen> default_user your_father
[04:20] <bodhizazen> auto_login no
[04:20] <wxl> weren't you also looking for something a bit more lightweight or did i misunderstand?
[04:20] <KM0201> yes, i was
[04:20] <wxl> there ya go
[04:20] <wxl> anywho, when you feel up to it, it will do what you want
[04:21] <KM0201> yeah
[04:24] <KM0201> just don't understand why lightdm seems to work so well with unity/ubuntu, but bricks lxdm
[04:24] <KM0201> *lubuntu
[04:27] <wxl> that is strange
[04:28] <wxl> should check the logs for errors
[04:28] <wxl> might be some bugs up in there
[04:28] <KM0201> i'm sure.
[04:28] <wxl> i'd also fine tooth comb that config file
[04:28] <KM0201> just seemds odd, that it seems to work flawlessly w/ the other ubuntu flavors, just not lubuntu
[04:29] <wxl> http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2011/07/lightdm-on-lubuntu.html interesting
[04:30] <KM0201> and he says it works, unusual
[04:31] <bodhizazen> what is your problem with lightdm , what do you mean "it bricks" ?
[04:32] <KM0201> bodhizazen: soon as i install it, my virtual install fails to boot (i had the same problem on actual installs, in 11.04)... i reboot to recovery, reconfigure to use lxdm, and all works perfectly
[04:33] <bodhizazen> at what point in the boot process does it hang ?
[04:33] <KM0201> unfortunately, i'm not sure on that
[04:33] <wxl> and what were the symptoms again?
[04:33] <bodhizazen> edit your kernel line and remove quiet and splash
[04:33] <KM0201> it just stops booting, black screen.. thats it.
[04:34] <Unit193> What exactly do you install? Just lightdm?
[04:34] <KM0201> yeah
[04:34] <bodhizazen> install openssh server and ssh in from a second box and look at the logs
[04:34] <Unit193> Ah! You need a greeter too!
[04:34] <KM0201> like?
[04:34] <wxl> wtf is a greeter?
[04:35] <bodhizazen> a greeter is one of those folks outside Walmart ...
[04:36] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[04:36] <Unit193> bodhizazen: Heh +@
[04:36] <Unit193> 1
[04:36] <KM0201> i'll try it and see hat happens
[04:36] <KM0201> it'll be a couple minuts though
[04:36] <Unit193> lightdm --test-mode
[04:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> lightdm-gtk-greete
[04:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> lightdm-gtk-greeter
[04:37] <Unit193> bodhizazen: You happen to know resource usage comparison of slim, lightdm, and LXDM?
[04:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> thats the package name in the repo
[04:38] <KM0201> why is that not installed by default as a dependency
[04:38] <wxl> is lightdm the only dm that requires a greeter?
[04:38] <Unit193> I'm not sure if GDM installs a basic one or not
[04:39] <bodhizazen> Unit193, no, I have not found the login managers to be all *that* heavy on resources, but if I need to squeeze more performance out of an old machine, I disable them and then log in and startx
[04:40] <wxl> bodhizazen: there is one alternative
[04:40] <KM0201> bodhizazen: you're trying to make my dad kill me by suggesting that..lol
[04:40] <wxl> which will make KM0201 laugh
[04:40] <wxl> and that's CDM: console display manager :D
[04:40] <KM0201> lol
[04:40] <wxl> which is about as cute as an idea as ratpoison
[04:41] <KM0201> well, lets face it, it works
[04:41] <KM0201> flawlessly
[04:41] <bodhizazen> lol
[04:41] <KM0201> but.. sighs.. not for him.
[04:41] <wxl> yep and you know what to expect from the gui ;)
[04:41] <KM0201> yeah, hopefully i can get lightdm working properly
[04:42] <KM0201> i've not saw that testing repo yet
[04:42] <KM0201> but that testing repo is for natty.
[04:42] <KM0201> but i guess i can just install all those packages from the normal ubuntu repos.
[04:43] <KM0201> linux though, is the perfect OS for them.
[04:43] <KM0201> i was clearing viruses/malware off of that pC weekly, cuz they were just to dense and clicking on links in random emails, pop ups, etc
[04:43] <KM0201> now, i just ssh in once a week, update, and thats that
[04:43] <Unit193> Try not to get too offtopic though
[04:54] <KM0201> Unit193: wxl bodhizazen  when i try to reconfigure lightdm, i get this error...  http://pastebin.com/zv2upusu
[04:55] <KM0201> looks like it says its missing something called dpkg-maint?
[04:58] <KM0201> pastebin.com/a2qFZ7RH
[04:58] <KM0201> http://pastebin.com/a2qFZ7RH
[04:58] <KM0201> thats the winner right there
[04:59] <KM0201> now the question is, why doesn't lightdm call for that when it installs.. that would strike me as a bug.
[04:59] <KM0201> lemme see if thats the prob, i just installed it
[05:01] <KM0201> hmm, nope
[05:01] <KM0201> still getting that error when i try to reconfigure, only now when i "test".. i get a black window bouncing all over the place
[05:01] <KM0201> lets see what happenson reboot
[05:01] <KM0201> is anybody listening, or am i talking to myself?
[05:03] <KM0201> wxl: ? Unit193 ?  bodhizazen ?
[05:04] <wxl> sorry
[05:04] <wxl> working on it
[05:04] <KM0201> no prob
[05:04] <KM0201> i thought i had it w/ that error, installed that xephyr package, but still crayz, i'm gonna try to ssh in and look at the logs
[05:05] <wxl> did u get the greeter?
[05:05] <KM0201> no
[05:05] <KM0201> screen just flashes
[05:06] <wxl> it is necessary
[05:06] <wxl> did you remove gdm?
[05:06] <KM0201> oh,i mean yes, it installed
[05:06] <wxl> ok
[05:06] <KM0201> i meant, i'm not getting the screen where i can choose a login name
[05:07] <KM0201> yes, gdm is removed
[05:11] <KM0201> wxl: where would the log for this be?
[05:11] <wxl> is there a ~/.dmrc?
[05:12] <wxl> well of course /var/log/syslog for general
[05:12] <KM0201> yeah
[05:12] <wxl> more specifically.....
[05:12] <KM0201> no, i don't see a /.drmc (under my home)
[05:13] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/809890
[05:13] <wxl> ^^^ talks about the problem being related to .dmrc
[05:13] <KM0201> the problem is, i never get to the screen that lets me choose "other"
[05:14] <wxl> /var/log/lightdm
[05:14] <wxl> makes sense :D
[05:14] <KM0201> lightdm.log, is empty
[05:15] <wxl> i meant /var/log/lightdm/
[05:15] <KM0201> yeah, i know
[05:15] <KM0201> and it's empty
[05:15] <wxl> hmm
[05:15] <wxl> it's not loading the greeter is what it seems
[05:15] <KM0201> thats what it seems
[05:17] <wxl> huh there's a webkit greeter out there
[05:21] <KM0201> don't think thats related
[05:22] <wxl> there should be an /etc/init/lightdm.conf?
[05:24] <KM0201> yup, there is
[05:25] <wxl> wuz the contents?
[05:25] <KM0201> um, hang on
[05:25] <wxl> it's weird lightdm.log isn't there
[05:25] <wxl> THAT suggests lightdm isn't starting period
[05:25] <KM0201> well, lightdm.log is there.. it's just empty
[05:26] <wxl> de facto the same
[05:27] <KM0201> u say so... http://pastebin.com/8DKb6MXm
[05:28] <wxl> no i mean empty is effectively the same as not there
[05:28] <KM0201> oh ok, gotcha
[05:30] <wxl> oh i give up :D
[05:32] <KM0201> hold, log is full now
[05:32] <KM0201> i had to SSH in to get something
[05:32] <KM0201> how do i pastebin the contents of a file?... since nano sucks for this.
[05:33] <wxl> uhh i forgot the command for that
[05:33] <wxl> and nano???? ewwww
[05:33] <KM0201> well, if vi will let me select all/copy/paste into a pastebin, then that will work
[05:33] <KM0201> but i don't think it will (i've just used nano so long, i like it)
[05:34] <wxl> if you can do xterm mouse you can
[05:34] <wxl> visual mode
[05:34] <wxl> pastebinit is the command
[05:34] <wxl> so you could cat /some/log | pastebinit
[05:35] <KM0201> how do you exit vi?
[05:36] <wxl> ZZ to save or :q! to quit
[05:36] <wxl> assuming you escape first
[05:36] <KM0201> i got it.
[05:36] <wxl> you have to be in command mode not insert mode
[05:36] <KM0201> http://paste.ubuntu.com/708378/
[05:37] <KM0201> thats lightdm.log
[05:37] <wxl> do you have other logs in there?
[05:37] <KM0201> i believe there's an x-log
[05:37] <KM0201> lemme check it
[05:38] <wxl> check out line 38
[05:38] <wxl> go check the permissions
[05:38] <wxl> oh wait that doesn't make sense
[05:38] <wxl> that's not a permissions issue
[05:39] <KM0201> here's the x-0.log   http://paste.ubuntu.com/708381/
[05:39] <KM0201> also under lightdm
[05:40] <KM0201> looks like it's saying the problem is the "vboxvideo" module?
[05:40] <wxl> 3222 is trying to load unity greeter
[05:41] <KM0201> i saw that
[05:41] <KM0201> think i should uninstall that?
[05:41] <wxl> maybe
[05:41] <wxl> i wish it was clear how to set the greeter of choice
[05:42] <KM0201> yea
[05:42] <KM0201> i just set the greetter to lxdm, so i can remove unity greeter
[05:43] <wxl> http://bobthegnome.blogspot.com/2010/07/lightdm.html
[05:44] <KM0201> hmm
[05:44] <wxl> but yeah it seem that vbox i messing with you too
[05:45] <KM0201> but..
[05:45] <KM0201> like i said, on 11.04, i got the exact same behavior, on an actual install
[05:45] <wxl> i know what youre thinking
[05:45] <KM0201> ?
[05:45] <wxl> that
[05:45] <KM0201> lol
[05:46] <KM0201> am ithat predictable?
[05:47] <wxl> hehehe
[05:47] <KM0201> man, this is frustrating
[05:47] <KM0201> that repo 404'd
[05:47] <wxl> that and that's your xorg log
[05:47] <wxl> that vbox fail should be on ANY variation of x
[05:47] <wxl> ugh
[05:47] <wxl> man dude i wnat to help you like crazy but i just don't know
[05:47] <wxl> can i suggest slim? :D
[05:47] <KM0201> lol
[05:48] <KM0201> i might try slim
[05:51] <KM0201> well, i'm gonna hit the rack, tired
[05:51] <KM0201> thanks for your help
[05:51] <wxl> i'm kinda with ya on that one
[05:52] <KM0201> lol
[05:52] <wxl> sorry we didn't accomplish much :D
[05:52] <KM0201> talk to you tomorrow.
[05:52] <wxl> sounds good
[05:52] <wxl> night
[08:36] <danmartin> ciao
[09:41] <laumonier> ive got some freeze with windows in lubuntu especialy when i have a select menu . am i the only one with this problem?
[10:55] <dlirit> is there a way to move to lubuntu from an already installed ubuntu 11.04?
[10:55] <ploppel> hello! I want to deinstall lubuntu, can someone please help me?
[10:56] <ploppel> I thought it would be enough to erase the folder on C: but there isn't any ...
[10:57] <dlirit> oh nm, I see it on the wiki
[10:57] <dlirit> I'm on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu and seeing there's only instructions to upgrade from 10.X and not 11.X
[10:57] <dlirit> I guess they would be the same, unless someone can corect me
[10:57] <dlirit> *correct
[11:03] <alvin47> how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed lubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymore
[11:08] <alvin47>  how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed lubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymore
[11:08] <alvin47> anyone up here?
[11:20] <alvin47> how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed lubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymore
[11:46] <phillw> dlirit: hi, I've just checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu and it does say "For 10.10 and later", 11.10 is 'later' :)
[11:58] <dlirit> weird though
[11:58] <dlirit> I just ran the apt-get update and install (with --no-install-recommends) and I only got packages to install, none is removed...
[11:59] <dlirit> so I should run http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxdenatty ?
[11:59] <dlirit> can I run those commands from purelxdenatty site AFTER the upgrade to lubuntu-desktop?
[15:48] <hulaka> Got lubuntu 11.10. When right-click on desktop I accidently changed the menu that shows up. Now it's some OpenBox menu - how to change it back?
[15:48] <arturo> help buffer
[15:58] <hulaka> By the way - why in almost every software fonts look so small and ugly? Same with some websites - though on ceratin fonts look smaller, on other bigger
[15:59] <hulaka> On Ubuntu it all looked ok ... now using Lubuntu 11.10 and it just looks different ... and worse
[16:00] <arturo> window splitv
[16:03] <hulaka> ?
[16:30] <hosoka> hello all
[16:31] <hosoka> if one could help me out to use lxdm for autologin purpose. Currently running Lubuntu 10.10
[16:33] <silverlightning> There is a way to get autologin back
[16:33] <hosoka> i found a docu of this but was not able to activate it
[16:33] <silverlightning> hosoka, did you choose autologin during install ?
[16:33] <hosoka> I had used gdm next to it but now I would like to use the lxdm instead.
[16:34] <hosoka> there was no option for that with my alternative cd installation.
[16:34] <silverlightning> I'm with you
[16:34] <hosoka> is there a way afterwards ?
[16:34] <silverlightning> hmm, a bit tricky
[16:37] <hosoka> I know that there is a lxdm config file
[16:37] <hosoka> but once I entered my username at the autologin=
[16:37] <hosoka> it mentioned to me that I am not able to save the file
[16:38] <hosoka> silverlightning: the autologin during install is where you are installing Ubuntu from CD. I remember this one :-)
[16:38] <silverlightning> I usually disable login at all
[16:39] <silverlightning> i mean enable autologin,
[16:39] <hulaka> By the way - why in almost every software fonts look so small and ugly? Same with some websites - though on ceratin fonts look smaller, on other bigger
[16:40] <silverlightning> you mean windows manager?
[16:40] <hulaka> I mean that on software (like Libreoffice) fonts look bad, smaller and worse than on Ubuntu
[16:40] <hulaka> using Lubuntu 11.10 /64bit now
[16:41] <hulaka> not everywhere ... on some software, on some websites
[16:41] <silverlightning> I don't notice much change?
[16:42] <silverlightning> I know it differs on  some hardware
[16:42] <hulaka> http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3286/screem3o.png
[16:42] <silverlightning> maybe it's the windows manager or gui?
[16:42] <hulaka> screenshot, though it doesn't fully show what's exactly wrong
[16:44] <hosoka> i have found the lxdm.conf file
[16:44] <hosoka> but how to change the autologin in this file and safe it back.
[16:45] <silverlightning> to me xchat always looks like that
[16:45] <hosoka> is there a way to change the lxdm.conf file
[16:45] <silverlightning> probably, but I don't dare give any suggestions
[16:45] <hulaka> what about libre? eh I don't know, maybe it's just how lubuntu looks
[16:46] <hulaka> though, I don't understand why fonts on same sites, on same browser look different on Lubuntu & Ubuntu
[16:47] <silverlightning> I have libre office, and right now pigin
[16:47] <hulaka> does it look the same as in screenshot?
[16:47] <silverlightning> yes pretty much
[16:48] <hulaka> heh ok
[16:48] <silverlightning> I am in lubuntu right now too
[16:48] <silverlightning> I have Ubuntu 11.10 on a different laptop, but I could not detect much difference in word processor
[16:49] <hulaka> >.>
[16:49] <silverlightning> At least probably thought it was because of better graphics and resolution?
[16:49] <hulaka> maybe
[16:50] <hulaka> two more question though, nothing serious now:
[16:50] <silverlightning> hulaka, would lxde be that different from gnome unity?
[16:50] <silverlightning> on printing it is exactly the same
[16:51] <hulaka> It's not THAT different, it's small differences
[16:51] <silverlightning> I see
[16:51] <hulaka> but they're pissing me off
[16:51] <silverlightning> lol
[16:51] <silverlightning> it is on the same computer?
[16:51] <hulaka> Yes
[16:52] <hulaka> Whatever though
[16:52] <hulaka> I doubt someone will help me with this
[16:52] <hulaka> My linux set up is always wrong in this or other way
[16:53] <hulaka> Guess Im used to that
[16:54] <hulaka> Other thing: Right-clicked on the desktop & accidently I switched something
[16:54] <hulaka> Now in stead of normal menu that pops up when right clicking on desktop
[16:54] <hulaka> I got OpenBox menu
[16:54] <hulaka> know how to change it back?
[16:56] <silverlightning> major messing
[16:57] <silverlightning> rightclick again?
[16:57] <silverlightning> desktop preferences ?
[16:57] <hulaka> no desktop preferences
[16:57] <hulaka> got ObConf
[16:58] <hulaka> which is OpenBox Configuration Menager
[16:58] <hulaka> got "Restart" which kinda refresh desktop or whatever
[16:58] <hulaka> got "Reconfigure" which doesn't do anything (seenable ...)
[16:59] <hulaka> got "Exit" that basically turn offs the panel
[17:00] <hulaka> and blocks right click and what not (restarting PC helped)
[17:00] <hulaka> there's also Terminal emulator & Web Browser
[17:00] <hulaka> which works how the name suggests
[17:00] <hulaka> and also some simple desktop switcher
[17:01] <hulaka> but no desktop preferences
[17:01] <hulaka> I mean ... this doesn't look like major messing
[17:02] <hulaka> especially since it was easily (accidently) done
[17:02] <hulaka> but can't change it for shit
[17:03] <NRWlion> evening folks
[17:03] <hulaka> hello ...
[17:04] <hulaka> any idea how change menu that pops up when right clicking on desktop?
[17:04] <hulaka> I accidently changed it and now have some OpenBox menu
[17:04] <silverlightning> I get lxde preferences when I right click
[17:04] <silverlightning> as option
[17:05] <silverlightning> settings in open box config manager?
[17:06] <hulaka> well there are some settings
[17:06] <hulaka> but nothing that could change the right click menu
[17:07] <hulaka> jesus ... isn't there some "set default" button for desktop
[17:07] <hulaka> linux can be hella problematic ...
[17:07] <silverlightning> jesus usually doesn't help with computer issues
[17:08] <hulaka> i doubt he helps with any issues
[17:08] <hulaka> it just stupid mistake I made and I don't understand how it can't be undone
[17:09] <hulaka> stupid right-click menu ... I mean ... come ooon
[17:10] <silverlightning> sorry I'm not good with this
[17:11] <silverlightning> there is a lxde channel
[17:11] <silverlightning> there are usually a few here that are good with lubuntu
[17:11] <hulaka> how it's called?
[17:12] <KM0201> hulaka: did you check that box  "show menus provided by window managers when desktop is clicked"? (sorry, i'm late)
[17:12] <silverlightning>    #lxde
[17:12] <hulaka> KM - probably
[17:12] <hulaka> Don't remember well
[17:13] <hulaka> can it be undone?
[17:14] <hulaka> that's how it looks: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7176/screen5p.png
[17:17] <silverlightning> ...you are where no man has been before
[17:18] <hulaka> lool
[17:18] <hulaka> what do you even talk bout
[17:18] <hulaka> it was so easily made
[17:19] <hulaka> oh, why I didn't check the internet for what KM wrote
[17:19] <hulaka> people been there
[17:19] <hulaka> though, now we'll see if there's a solution ...
[17:20] <thegladiator> how do I remove the desktop icon's shadow ?
[17:20] <silverlightning> lol
[17:21] <silverlightning> the gladiator, probably settings under preferances
[17:21] <hulaka> pcmanfm --desktop-pref
[17:21] <hulaka> + terminal
[17:21] <hulaka> solved :)
[17:21] <silverlightning> great
[17:22] <silverlightning> very clever of you
[17:22] <silverlightning> thegladiator: menu-preferences. open box config?
[17:22] <silverlightning> hulaka:  how did it happen in the first place?
[17:23] <thegladiator> how do I remove the lwhere i menu pref
[17:23] <hulaka> well, it's probably connected with my research of small fonts problem
[17:23] <hulaka> probably thought that checking that box will change anything
[17:24] <hulaka> or indeed did it accidently
[17:24] <hulaka> I don't know, doesn't matter
[17:24] <silverlightning> these things happen
[17:24] <silverlightning> I usually mess up in terminal
[17:25] <silverlightning> I all kinds of weird issues after following a guide some where
[17:25] <silverlightning> or any of the suggestions you get here lol
[17:26] <hulaka> well, linux set up is always problematic for me
[17:26] <hulaka> something is always wrong
[17:26] <hulaka> especially since i have a lil paranoia
[17:26] <hulaka> and i want everything to be set ok
[17:26] <hulaka> so when something is wrong I go crazy :P
[18:09] <Xapian> Hi all!
[18:09] <Xapian> Why does not work the website lubuntu.net?
[18:12] <Xapian> who here?
[18:13] <Xapian> :(
[18:14] <Xapian> help please
[18:14] <Xapian> or i go on Windows :P
[18:41] <KM0201> that's a pretty ignorant way to try and get help... lol, threatening to go to windows
[19:04] <hulaka> Any idea why some fonts in Lubuntu 11.10 (mostly in some software & some websites) look smaller & ugly? Libreoffice looks just terrible
[19:05] <KM0201> look fine to me
[19:05] <hulaka> >.<
[19:05] <hulaka> I don't know ... so small, basically something wrong with it too cause even when I write something in Libre
[19:06] <hulaka> with some usual size
[19:06] <hulaka> it looks bad
[19:06] <hulaka> not clean or however you call it
[19:09] <hulaka> any idea? Or maybe a suggestions how to set fonts in settings or what not
[19:30] <tzhuang> hello. does anyone know whats a permanent way to map caps lock in lubuntu
[19:33] <tzhuang> google search gets me to xmodmap but it resets after boot
[19:44] <dmorfin> how do we edit menus under 11.10?  I tried using alacarte (like I used to) and it complains about gnome-panel not being installed... I went to install that, and it said it would conflicted with 151 packages..
[19:45] <KM0201> alacarte has never worked under lxde. you edit menus by edtinga configuration file
[19:45] <KM0201> i think its in the FAQ...
[19:45] <KM0201> !faq
[19:46] <KM0201> hmm, thats not it
[19:46] <KM0201> hold on
[19:47] <dmorfin> alacarte worked for me until yesterday ;)
[19:47] <KM0201> with LXDE?
[19:48] <KM0201> that would reallys urprise me
[19:48] <dmorfin> yes
[19:48] <KM0201> hmm
[19:48] <dmorfin> then when I upgraded to 11.10, it decided that gnome-panel invalidates the world of packages (things like qt, virtualbox, vlc, etc)
[19:51] <dmorfin> I should say, I'm running with Menu configured for my panel, and alacarte lets you edit that
[19:51] <dmorfin> it didn't let me edit the desktop menu
[19:57] <kylpo> I haven't found a change log for lubuntu 11.10. Anyone have a link or able to tell me some changes?
[20:08] <tzhuang> who's the lubuntu guru here?
[20:09] <Unit193> !ask
[20:09] <Unit193> tzhuang: You get QQ working?
[20:09] <dmorfin> anybody know if lxmenuedit is available in some package?
[20:09] <tzhuang> !ask
[20:09] <tzhuang> Unit193: naw =P i went to do other stuff
[20:10] <tzhuang> Unit193: i just obliterated all of my harddrive reinsatlling winxp and lubuntu
[20:10] <tzhuang> Unit193: so there's a lot of housekeeping to do. one thing keeps popping up after the next
[20:10] <tzhuang> Unit193: like i'll want to edit my bashrc but then i realized my caps kep wasnt mapped to my ESC anymore
[20:11] <tzhuang> Unit193: so then i went to do that and then my backup files were on my windows partition so i was looking into automount
[20:11] <tzhuang> Unit193: well you get the picture
[20:22] <tzhuang> why does sylpheed freeze up when it's grabbing mail. i'd like to use it over tbird because it's integrated
[23:22] <trakinas> hey guys!
[23:22] <trakinas> my network applet has vanished after an update. how to fix that?
[23:24] <KM0201> have yout ried restarting?
[23:33] <tzhuang> does lubuntu support minimize to tray for tbird?
[23:52] <trakinas> KM0201: in fact, is not me. is my sister. I hate to give her support over telephone. I don't have any idea if she has reseted it. I dont have any idea how her screen shows up to her. all I know is that she cant connect to the internet.
[23:52] <KM0201> hmm
[23:52] <trakinas> *s/reseted/restarted/rg
[23:53] <KM0201> well, i'd first start by asking her to restart
[23:54] <trakinas> KM0201: she said it has vanished before today - so it means she has already turned it on and off.
[23:58] <tzhuang> does lubuntu support minimize to tray for tbird?