[00:00] well, partial success [01:35] hello [01:35] would anyone mind helping me? === austin is now known as Guest13605 [01:36] hello? [01:37] hello, would someone mind helping me? [01:40] what is the lubuntu netbook desktop? [01:41] It's just another view of things, try it to find out [01:42] what? [01:42] oh nvm, i was asking because i could not log into it [01:42] Odd, I'll try it next VBox install [01:43] the only desktops i can log into are default, lxde, lubuntu, and openbox (just freezes up) [02:53] anyone here use QQ chat? [02:54] or rahter anyone have it working in lubuntu? [02:55] Pidgin should support it [02:57] hmmm i can't seem to find it in the accounts selection [02:57] for the pidgin that comes bundled with lubuntu 11.10 anyway [03:00] It's listed as supported, but I have never used QQ :P Take a look at http://code.google.com/p/libqq-pidgin/ [03:03] tzhuang: "Note: Kopete, old versions of Pidgin, and any other client whose QQ support is based on libpurple no longer supports QQ as of May 2011" [03:10] Unit193: doh, thanks a lot for your help [03:14] whats QQ? [03:15] KM0201: China talk network [03:15] oh ok [04:06] KM0201: did u get it worrking? [04:08] wxl: sort of [04:08] how so? [04:08] i ended up install GDM, which works fine (even if a bit bloated) [04:08] only problem is, i can't figure out how to configure it... and when it loads up, it's just a black screen, w/ a window to choose a username [04:08] which.. in reality, is fine... i'd just like it to be a "little" better.. if i could just make that background blue, or some color other than black, it'd be gold [04:08] i'll look into it more tomorrow. [04:08] got tired of dealing w/ it [04:09] theming howto: http://slim.berlios.de/themes_howto.php [04:09] config is /us/etc/slim.conf [04:10] hmm, i'll check that out. [04:10] values are here http://slim.berlios.de/manual.php [04:13] slim is very very easy to theme [04:14] yeah, but does it allow you to click a username? [04:15] what i was thinking was make dad the auto use [04:15] that way it automatically selects his name [04:15] oh i see [04:15] all he has to do is enter password [04:15] that may work [04:15] since sis don't care, she can click to login as different user [04:16] I do not think slim will do that [04:16] If you have multiple users, personally I would use gdm, switch users is very handy [04:17] you can configure slim to auto login [04:17] bodhizazen: yeah, i got that working, like i said, i just can't figure out how to configure the background on gdm from lxde [04:17] he doesn't want auto login [04:17] i don't want auto login [04:17] he wantss it to be REALLY EASY for one user [04:17] exactly [04:17] but still require an authenticated login [04:18] oic, slim will do that [04:18] yea... i'll figure somethng out. [04:18] the config file is well commented =) [04:19] GDM works, if i figure out how to make it just *a little* better, the black background is a bit much, if i could just change it to a blue, or something, it'd b efine, but even the black will work, if necessary [04:20] default_user your_father [04:20] auto_login no [04:20] weren't you also looking for something a bit more lightweight or did i misunderstand? [04:20] yes, i was [04:20] there ya go [04:20] anywho, when you feel up to it, it will do what you want [04:21] yeah [04:24] just don't understand why lightdm seems to work so well with unity/ubuntu, but bricks lxdm [04:24] *lubuntu [04:27] that is strange [04:28] should check the logs for errors [04:28] might be some bugs up in there [04:28] i'm sure. [04:28] i'd also fine tooth comb that config file [04:28] just seemds odd, that it seems to work flawlessly w/ the other ubuntu flavors, just not lubuntu [04:29] http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2011/07/lightdm-on-lubuntu.html interesting [04:30] and he says it works, unusual [04:31] what is your problem with lightdm , what do you mean "it bricks" ? [04:32] bodhizazen: soon as i install it, my virtual install fails to boot (i had the same problem on actual installs, in 11.04)... i reboot to recovery, reconfigure to use lxdm, and all works perfectly [04:33] at what point in the boot process does it hang ? [04:33] unfortunately, i'm not sure on that [04:33] and what were the symptoms again? [04:33] edit your kernel line and remove quiet and splash [04:33] it just stops booting, black screen.. thats it. [04:34] What exactly do you install? Just lightdm? [04:34] yeah [04:34] install openssh server and ssh in from a second box and look at the logs [04:34] Ah! You need a greeter too! [04:34] like? [04:34] wtf is a greeter? [04:35] a greeter is one of those folks outside Walmart ... [04:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM [04:36] bodhizazen: Heh +@ [04:36] 1 [04:36] i'll try it and see hat happens [04:36] it'll be a couple minuts though [04:36] lightdm --test-mode [04:37] lightdm-gtk-greete [04:37] lightdm-gtk-greeter [04:37] bodhizazen: You happen to know resource usage comparison of slim, lightdm, and LXDM? [04:37] thats the package name in the repo [04:38] why is that not installed by default as a dependency [04:38] is lightdm the only dm that requires a greeter? [04:38] I'm not sure if GDM installs a basic one or not [04:39] Unit193, no, I have not found the login managers to be all *that* heavy on resources, but if I need to squeeze more performance out of an old machine, I disable them and then log in and startx [04:40] bodhizazen: there is one alternative [04:40] bodhizazen: you're trying to make my dad kill me by suggesting that..lol [04:40] which will make KM0201 laugh [04:40] and that's CDM: console display manager :D [04:40] lol [04:40] which is about as cute as an idea as ratpoison [04:41] well, lets face it, it works [04:41] flawlessly [04:41] lol [04:41] but.. sighs.. not for him. [04:41] yep and you know what to expect from the gui ;) [04:41] yeah, hopefully i can get lightdm working properly [04:42] i've not saw that testing repo yet [04:42] but that testing repo is for natty. [04:42] but i guess i can just install all those packages from the normal ubuntu repos. [04:43] linux though, is the perfect OS for them. [04:43] i was clearing viruses/malware off of that pC weekly, cuz they were just to dense and clicking on links in random emails, pop ups, etc [04:43] now, i just ssh in once a week, update, and thats that [04:43] Try not to get too offtopic though [04:54] Unit193: wxl bodhizazen when i try to reconfigure lightdm, i get this error... http://pastebin.com/zv2upusu [04:55] looks like it says its missing something called dpkg-maint? [04:58] pastebin.com/a2qFZ7RH [04:58] http://pastebin.com/a2qFZ7RH [04:58] thats the winner right there [04:59] now the question is, why doesn't lightdm call for that when it installs.. that would strike me as a bug. [04:59] lemme see if thats the prob, i just installed it [05:01] hmm, nope [05:01] still getting that error when i try to reconfigure, only now when i "test".. i get a black window bouncing all over the place [05:01] lets see what happenson reboot [05:01] is anybody listening, or am i talking to myself? [05:03] wxl: ? Unit193 ? bodhizazen ? [05:04] sorry [05:04] working on it [05:04] no prob [05:04] i thought i had it w/ that error, installed that xephyr package, but still crayz, i'm gonna try to ssh in and look at the logs [05:05] did u get the greeter? [05:05] no [05:05] screen just flashes [05:06] it is necessary [05:06] did you remove gdm? [05:06] oh,i mean yes, it installed [05:06] ok [05:06] i meant, i'm not getting the screen where i can choose a login name [05:07] yes, gdm is removed [05:11] wxl: where would the log for this be? [05:11] is there a ~/.dmrc? [05:12] well of course /var/log/syslog for general [05:12] yeah [05:12] more specifically..... [05:12] no, i don't see a /.drmc (under my home) [05:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/809890 [05:13] Ubuntu bug 809890 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "lightdm-example-gtk-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in __strcmp_ssse3()" [Medium,Fix released] [05:13] ^^^ talks about the problem being related to .dmrc [05:13] the problem is, i never get to the screen that lets me choose "other" [05:14] /var/log/lightdm [05:14] makes sense :D [05:14] lightdm.log, is empty [05:15] i meant /var/log/lightdm/ [05:15] yeah, i know [05:15] and it's empty [05:15] hmm [05:15] it's not loading the greeter is what it seems [05:15] thats what it seems [05:17] huh there's a webkit greeter out there [05:21] don't think thats related [05:22] there should be an /etc/init/lightdm.conf? [05:24] yup, there is [05:25] wuz the contents? [05:25] um, hang on [05:25] it's weird lightdm.log isn't there [05:25] THAT suggests lightdm isn't starting period [05:25] well, lightdm.log is there.. it's just empty [05:26] de facto the same [05:27] u say so... http://pastebin.com/8DKb6MXm [05:28] no i mean empty is effectively the same as not there [05:28] oh ok, gotcha [05:30] oh i give up :D [05:32] hold, log is full now [05:32] i had to SSH in to get something [05:32] how do i pastebin the contents of a file?... since nano sucks for this. [05:33] uhh i forgot the command for that [05:33] and nano???? ewwww [05:33] well, if vi will let me select all/copy/paste into a pastebin, then that will work [05:33] but i don't think it will (i've just used nano so long, i like it) [05:34] if you can do xterm mouse you can [05:34] visual mode [05:34] pastebinit is the command [05:34] so you could cat /some/log | pastebinit [05:35] how do you exit vi? [05:36] ZZ to save or :q! to quit [05:36] assuming you escape first [05:36] i got it. [05:36] you have to be in command mode not insert mode [05:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/708378/ [05:37] thats lightdm.log [05:37] do you have other logs in there? [05:37] i believe there's an x-log [05:37] lemme check it [05:38] check out line 38 [05:38] go check the permissions [05:38] oh wait that doesn't make sense [05:38] that's not a permissions issue [05:39] here's the x-0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708381/ [05:39] also under lightdm [05:40] looks like it's saying the problem is the "vboxvideo" module? [05:40] 3222 is trying to load unity greeter [05:41] i saw that [05:41] think i should uninstall that? [05:41] maybe [05:41] i wish it was clear how to set the greeter of choice [05:42] yea [05:42] i just set the greetter to lxdm, so i can remove unity greeter [05:43] http://bobthegnome.blogspot.com/2010/07/lightdm.html [05:44] hmm [05:44] but yeah it seem that vbox i messing with you too [05:45] but.. [05:45] like i said, on 11.04, i got the exact same behavior, on an actual install [05:45] i know what youre thinking [05:45] ? [05:45] that [05:45] lol [05:46] am ithat predictable? [05:47] hehehe [05:47] man, this is frustrating [05:47] that repo 404'd [05:47] that and that's your xorg log [05:47] that vbox fail should be on ANY variation of x [05:47] ugh [05:47] man dude i wnat to help you like crazy but i just don't know [05:47] can i suggest slim? :D [05:47] lol [05:48] i might try slim [05:51] well, i'm gonna hit the rack, tired [05:51] thanks for your help [05:51] i'm kinda with ya on that one [05:52] lol [05:52] sorry we didn't accomplish much :D [05:52] talk to you tomorrow. [05:52] sounds good [05:52] night [08:36] ciao [09:41] ive got some freeze with windows in lubuntu especialy when i have a select menu . am i the only one with this problem? [10:55] is there a way to move to lubuntu from an already installed ubuntu 11.04? [10:55] hello! I want to deinstall lubuntu, can someone please help me? [10:56] I thought it would be enough to erase the folder on C: but there isn't any ... [10:57] oh nm, I see it on the wiki [10:57] I'm on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu and seeing there's only instructions to upgrade from 10.X and not 11.X [10:57] I guess they would be the same, unless someone can corect me [10:57] *correct [11:03] how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed lubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymore [11:08] how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed lubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymore [11:08] anyone up here? [11:20] how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed lubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymore === abc is now known as Guest35748 [11:46] dlirit: hi, I've just checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu and it does say "For 10.10 and later", 11.10 is 'later' :) [11:58] weird though [11:58] I just ran the apt-get update and install (with --no-install-recommends) and I only got packages to install, none is removed... [11:59] so I should run http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxdenatty ? [11:59] can I run those commands from purelxdenatty site AFTER the upgrade to lubuntu-desktop? [15:48] Got lubuntu 11.10. When right-click on desktop I accidently changed the menu that shows up. Now it's some OpenBox menu - how to change it back? [15:48] help buffer [15:58] By the way - why in almost every software fonts look so small and ugly? Same with some websites - though on ceratin fonts look smaller, on other bigger [15:59] On Ubuntu it all looked ok ... now using Lubuntu 11.10 and it just looks different ... and worse [16:00] window splitv [16:03] ? [16:30] hello all [16:31] if one could help me out to use lxdm for autologin purpose. Currently running Lubuntu 10.10 [16:33] There is a way to get autologin back [16:33] i found a docu of this but was not able to activate it [16:33] hosoka, did you choose autologin during install ? [16:33] I had used gdm next to it but now I would like to use the lxdm instead. [16:34] there was no option for that with my alternative cd installation. [16:34] I'm with you [16:34] is there a way afterwards ? [16:34] hmm, a bit tricky [16:37] I know that there is a lxdm config file [16:37] but once I entered my username at the autologin= [16:37] it mentioned to me that I am not able to save the file [16:38] silverlightning: the autologin during install is where you are installing Ubuntu from CD. I remember this one :-) [16:38] I usually disable login at all [16:39] i mean enable autologin, [16:39] By the way - why in almost every software fonts look so small and ugly? Same with some websites - though on ceratin fonts look smaller, on other bigger [16:40] you mean windows manager? [16:40] I mean that on software (like Libreoffice) fonts look bad, smaller and worse than on Ubuntu [16:40] using Lubuntu 11.10 /64bit now [16:41] not everywhere ... on some software, on some websites [16:41] I don't notice much change? [16:42] I know it differs on some hardware [16:42] http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3286/screem3o.png [16:42] maybe it's the windows manager or gui? [16:42] screenshot, though it doesn't fully show what's exactly wrong [16:44] i have found the lxdm.conf file [16:44] but how to change the autologin in this file and safe it back. [16:45] to me xchat always looks like that [16:45] is there a way to change the lxdm.conf file [16:45] probably, but I don't dare give any suggestions [16:45] what about libre? eh I don't know, maybe it's just how lubuntu looks [16:46] though, I don't understand why fonts on same sites, on same browser look different on Lubuntu & Ubuntu [16:47] I have libre office, and right now pigin [16:47] does it look the same as in screenshot? [16:47] yes pretty much [16:48] heh ok [16:48] I am in lubuntu right now too [16:48] I have Ubuntu 11.10 on a different laptop, but I could not detect much difference in word processor [16:49] >.> [16:49] At least probably thought it was because of better graphics and resolution? [16:49] maybe [16:50] two more question though, nothing serious now: [16:50] hulaka, would lxde be that different from gnome unity? [16:50] on printing it is exactly the same [16:51] It's not THAT different, it's small differences [16:51] I see [16:51] but they're pissing me off [16:51] lol [16:51] it is on the same computer? [16:51] Yes [16:52] Whatever though [16:52] I doubt someone will help me with this [16:52] My linux set up is always wrong in this or other way [16:53] Guess Im used to that [16:54] Other thing: Right-clicked on the desktop & accidently I switched something [16:54] Now in stead of normal menu that pops up when right clicking on desktop [16:54] I got OpenBox menu [16:54] know how to change it back? [16:56] major messing [16:57] rightclick again? [16:57] desktop preferences ? [16:57] no desktop preferences [16:57] got ObConf [16:58] which is OpenBox Configuration Menager [16:58] got "Restart" which kinda refresh desktop or whatever [16:58] got "Reconfigure" which doesn't do anything (seenable ...) [16:59] got "Exit" that basically turn offs the panel [17:00] and blocks right click and what not (restarting PC helped) [17:00] there's also Terminal emulator & Web Browser [17:00] which works how the name suggests [17:00] and also some simple desktop switcher [17:01] but no desktop preferences [17:01] I mean ... this doesn't look like major messing [17:02] especially since it was easily (accidently) done [17:02] but can't change it for shit [17:03] evening folks [17:03] hello ... [17:04] any idea how change menu that pops up when right clicking on desktop? [17:04] I accidently changed it and now have some OpenBox menu [17:04] I get lxde preferences when I right click [17:04] as option [17:05] settings in open box config manager? [17:06] well there are some settings [17:06] but nothing that could change the right click menu [17:07] jesus ... isn't there some "set default" button for desktop [17:07] linux can be hella problematic ... [17:07] jesus usually doesn't help with computer issues [17:08] i doubt he helps with any issues [17:08] it just stupid mistake I made and I don't understand how it can't be undone [17:09] stupid right-click menu ... I mean ... come ooon [17:10] sorry I'm not good with this [17:11] there is a lxde channel [17:11] there are usually a few here that are good with lubuntu [17:11] how it's called? [17:12] hulaka: did you check that box "show menus provided by window managers when desktop is clicked"? (sorry, i'm late) [17:12] #lxde [17:12] KM - probably [17:12] Don't remember well [17:13] can it be undone? [17:14] that's how it looks: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7176/screen5p.png [17:17] ...you are where no man has been before [17:18] lool [17:18] what do you even talk bout [17:18] it was so easily made [17:19] oh, why I didn't check the internet for what KM wrote [17:19] people been there [17:19] though, now we'll see if there's a solution ... [17:20] how do I remove the desktop icon's shadow ? [17:20] lol [17:21] the gladiator, probably settings under preferances [17:21] pcmanfm --desktop-pref [17:21] + terminal [17:21] solved :) [17:21] great [17:22] very clever of you [17:22] thegladiator: menu-preferences. open box config? [17:22] hulaka: how did it happen in the first place? [17:23] how do I remove the lwhere i menu pref [17:23] well, it's probably connected with my research of small fonts problem [17:23] probably thought that checking that box will change anything [17:24] or indeed did it accidently [17:24] I don't know, doesn't matter [17:24] these things happen [17:24] I usually mess up in terminal [17:25] I all kinds of weird issues after following a guide some where [17:25] or any of the suggestions you get here lol [17:26] well, linux set up is always problematic for me [17:26] something is always wrong [17:26] especially since i have a lil paranoia [17:26] and i want everything to be set ok [17:26] so when something is wrong I go crazy :P === thegladiator is now known as thevishy [18:09] Hi all! [18:09] Why does not work the website lubuntu.net? [18:12] who here? [18:13] :( [18:14]