[02:04] <blahdeblah> head_victim: Hey man, sorry to be a piker, but i'm gonna have to pull out of the party today.  I promised a client i would get some work finished this weekend, and i'm going to need to work on it this arvo.  :-(
[02:04] <head_victim> No worries mate, if you feel like a break head over for half an hour or so otherwise there's always the next one
[02:06] <sagaci> when's the bris party starting
[02:06] <head_victim> I a couple of hours
[02:07] <head_victim> 2pm UTC + 10
[02:07] <sagaci> ah yep
[02:09] <MoLE_> have fun you guys, wish I was there...
[04:36] <xannen> hi guys
[04:36] <xannen> unity is giving the shit, so far gnome classic no effect seems to be most stable for me.
[06:26] <ikt> head_victim:  :D
[06:29] <ikt> xannen: gnome classic?
[06:29] <ikt> are you still running 11.04?
[07:15] <blahdeblah> head_victim: Hope you folks went OK in the hail storm!
[07:31] <gorilla> hail in Brisbane? Wow.
[08:06] <ikt> is that not normal?
[08:15] <sagaci> head_victim: how'd it go
[08:15] <blahdeblah> gorilla: Sarcasm, i trust?
[08:15] <gorilla> blahdeblah: not really.. we have had a warmish day down here in Melbourne.
[08:17] <gorilla> then again Brisbane isn't tropical climate, rather it's sub-tropical (I think)
[08:24] <ikt> ls
[08:25] <ikt> wb :)
[08:36] <ikt> head_victim: still not back yet?
[08:40] <gorilla> is he working tonight?
[08:43] <head_victim> Went well
[08:43] <head_victim> I got hailed on coming home (been running around with the wife since)
[08:46] <head_victim> We had 7 or 8 turn up. I think the weather prevented a few.
[08:46] <ikt> lol
[08:46] <ikt> 7-8 is great :D
[08:47] <ikt> did you see my doodle?
[08:47] <head_victim> Yeah, I'd specify a time zone, UTC+10 or +11 just to be sure
[08:48] <head_victim> Because those silly southerners have a habit of adjusting their time zone regularly each year
[08:48] <ikt> yeah updated it right after sagaci mentioned it
[08:48] <ikt> http://doodle.com/bpz47isrg9q7xz23
[08:51] <ikt> assuming edt is the current time in sydney..
[08:55] <head_victim> I'd say "now that daylight savings has kicked in" so that those who aren't aware of it can be sure but then again that link should be ok as well
[08:55] <head_victim> blahdeblah: I drove through that hail on the way home (just read scrollback)
[08:56] <head_victim> gorilla & ikt we've had 3 lots of hail in the last week (some of it was so deep it looked like snow)
[08:58] <elky> there's little "normal" about weather this winter.
[08:58] <elky> Wellington had snow for the first time in 30 years a few weeks back
[09:02] <ikt> kk
[09:10] <ikt> head_victim: ok it's updated
[09:10] <gorilla> ikt: I've voted!
[09:10] <ikt> I saw :D
[09:10] <head_victim> ikt: send it to the list :) Just include a note as to why we're thinking of changed (to make it easier for more people to attend) :)
[09:11] <ikt> kk!
[09:11] <gorilla> elky: this winter is more like what I remember from my childhood. :-)
[09:12] <head_victim> BBL
[09:12] <ikt> head_victim: also checkout the emirates loco page
[09:12] <ikt> they've got this like news feed
[09:12] <ikt> that makes them look very active 
[09:12] <head_victim> Link?
[09:12] <ikt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmiratesTeam
[09:13] <head_victim> That's actually what should go in team reports
[09:13] <head_victim> If you look at it you'll see there's mostly only one thing a month
[09:13] <head_victim> Maybe we need to make the team reports more prominent on the front page?
[09:13] <ikt> yeah definitely
[09:14] <head_victim> I'd be more comfortable with that as opposed to having something else to update
[09:14] <head_victim> That and a link to the loco.u.c events page perhaps
[09:14] <head_victim> Anyway, bbl I gott arun for a bit
[09:14] <ikt> kk
[09:14] <ikt> have fun :D
[09:14] <gorilla> take care :-)
[09:35] <blahdeblah> gorilla: Warmish days are when we have hail the most up here... ;-)
[09:37] <gorilla> It's a strange part of the world! :-P
[09:40] <ikt> bbs
[10:31] <sagaci> head_victim, ping
[10:32] <xannen> hey all!
[10:33] <xannen> Unity: Dual Monitor - How to put dash on primary monitor?  Yes I have googled.
[10:46] <sagaci> nothing in ccsm?
[11:08] <xannen> hi sagaci  <3  i'll check ccsm.  i don't know how to tweak in ccsm anyway. :(
[11:11] <elky> by clicking boxes and choosing from dropdowns, typically
[11:11] <xannen> lol elky i know that.  but I mean, when I change a setting, I do not know its exact effect.
[11:12] <elky> they're fairly instant. if it doesn't do anything that you notice you just undo it ;)
[12:28] <ikt> fairly quiet :S
[12:28] <ikt> anyone installed a jabber server before?
[12:31] <sagaci> nope
[12:31]  * sagaci just breathing some irc air
[12:32] <ikt> was expecting it to be fairly easy but it's not working 
[12:32] <ikt> and I can't figure out why :(
[12:33] <sagaci> well what kind of errors are you getting
[12:33] <ikt> atm not connecting at all
[13:00] <sagaci> translations batch now start at 975
[13:52] <head_victim> sagaci: pong
[13:53] <head_victim> xannen: I found that if I went through the settings to displays and I moved the order of the screens about it changed which was primary (If you're still having problems)
[13:54] <xannen> hi head_victim  <3.  yeah i'm still playing around with it.
[13:56] <xannen> head_victim, i went to display, and it says "unknown" for the displays (2 monitors), even after clicking "Detect"
[13:57] <head_victim> That's fine, if you click and drag them around in the little window and put one in front of the other it will still change them
[13:58] <xannen> When I go to Display: it has this one big screen, no separate screen.  And that one big screen says: unknown.  And yes I have the "recommended" gpu driver installed.
[13:58] <head_victim> Hmm mine always has two screens side by side.
[13:58] <head_victim> And I can move them about relative to each other
[13:59] <xannen> Sorry for crude bluntness, I feel 11.10 is retarded, 'cause 11.04 worked better out of the box for me. :S
[14:01] <head_victim> I've found it difficult to navigate the Unity settings interface at times but I've generally always found what I've needed.
[14:01] <sagaci> stats aren't showing it but we're at 80% done now
[14:02] <head_victim> sagaci: niiice
[14:02] <xannen> Another thing I found odd is after a while, i get graphics lags.  :S  And I was not even playing games.  :S
[14:02] <sagaci> got the mail form fabri on the mailing list... so do you think you'll get an installfest happening?
[14:03] <head_victim> sagaci: there was definite support for it
[14:10] <sagaci> head_victim, so have you got a few more moments?
[14:25] <ikt> xannen: what's happening with 11.10 for you?
[14:30] <head_victim> sagaci: yeah just had dinner
[14:33] <xannen> hi ikt.  i am taking a break from tweaking it.  spend over 2 days now trying to get it just how it should be like on 11.04, but just updated.
[14:35] <head_victim> I'm trying to upload a picture to flickr to show what I'm talking about for the display settings. 
[14:35] <head_victim> Do you have ATI, nvidia or intel graphics? Soemtimes a setting int he proprietry  to make it just one big screen or split into 2
[14:36] <xannen> head_victim, i know what you mean.  Previously, when I went to Display, it shows the 2 monitors.  Now, it seems like the 2 monitors are combined, and just labelled as "unknown".
[14:36] <xannen> Nvidia.
[14:36] <head_victim> Ah I'd say you have the wrong setting in the nvidia-settings program
[14:36] <head_victim> If you run gksudo nvidia-settings you will geta  popup window
[14:37] <xannen> I went to the nvidia settings, and adjust it there in the first place.  In that settings, it shows the appropriate 2 monitors.
[14:37] <head_victim> In the list there should be a menu item for "X Server Display COnfiguration"
[14:37] <xannen> Yep that's where I made the adjustment.
[14:37] <head_victim> If you look for the "Configuration" what are you using? Twinview?
[14:38] <xannen> Yes.
[14:38] <xannen> But oddly, even though selected, it appeared to be greyed out.
[14:38] <head_victim> Ah ok I had the exact problem you were describing when I tried xinerama mode
[14:55] <ikt> hi homebound :)
[14:55] <sagaci> head_victim, so what's the go with planet.u.o.au is it just down or are they upgrading it
[14:56] <homebound> hi ikt  : )
[14:56] <head_victim> Down I think, I was waiting a day or two after release to let them settle a little
[14:57] <sagaci> so is it still beneficial to have an ubuntu.org.au vs. a loco site/wiki pages?
[14:58] <head_victim> The main thing I think the ubuntu.org.au should be for is for a news feed, blog like and the planet
[14:58] <head_victim> I've been speaking to the loco.u.c devs to give them that feedback
[14:58] <sagaci> yeah, so long as the news feed and planet are active i guess
[14:59] <sagaci> what about an upgrade to the new ubuntu branding, ala. the ubuntu-uk site
[14:59] <sagaci> http://ubuntu-uk.org/
[14:59] <head_victim> That, I'm told, is ont he list of high priorities after the release
[14:59] <sagaci> ah ok
[15:01] <sagaci> also, is there a wiki function to allow you to see what wiki pages you've edited -- wiki editing history for myself?
[15:05] <sagaci> doesn't look like it
[15:17] <head_victim> Not that I'm aware of
[15:26] <ikt> xannen: did u get my msg?
[15:26] <xannen> ikt, can you repeat it? just to be clear.
[15:27] <xannen> i just installed nvidia from x-swat ppa.  and still "unknown" display.  :S
[15:29] <head_victim> sagaci: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecentChanges?max_days=14 is the closest I know
[15:29] <head_victim> "unknown" isn't the issue in the display setup, it will always show unknown when you're using proprietary drivers from my experience. The problem is that it's only showing one big display
[15:34] <xannen> yeah
[15:34] <xannen> is nouvea the open source version of nvidia?
[15:35] <head_victim> Yep
[15:35] <head_victim> But nvidia should be able to do it, it will just be a setting somewhere wrong
[15:35] <head_victim> BBL again
[15:35] <xannen> yep, for me as noobuntu, i have no idea what or where to diagnose.
[15:39] <head_victim> Looks like others on your forum thread have had success just using the open source drivers, maybe give that a shot. If you have an nvidia 7500 it's quite an old card and may not be well supported anymore
[15:39] <xannen> i have gtx580, quite new.
[15:52] <ikt> HAHA
[15:52] <ikt> it was just needing a FQDN
[15:52] <ikt> damn you jabber
[15:55] <xannen> lol fully qual domain name -- so long >.<
[23:22]  * joey168 is away: going out to catch some fresh air, be back soon