[00:06] <pleia2> bkerensa: in california I ship CDs to whoever asks (we keep track of how many we have and who to contact on our release page)
[00:07] <pleia2> shipping is funded by events we do where we leave out a donation jar
[00:07]  * akgraner reads scrollback
[00:07] <pleia2> so people who can take a CD in person, fund getting them to people who can't :)
[00:07] <pleia2> s/,//
[00:08] <bkerensa> pleia2: Yeah :) well If I do it up here it will likely be out of my own pocket since as I have discussed with other LoCo leads that I do not like the idea of handling cash unless it is a petty amount
[00:08] <pleia2> it has worked out well so far, particularly since i'll ship a big pack down to los angeles and san diego so locals down there can go to ubuntu hours and whatnot to pick them up
[00:08] <bkerensa> pleia2: I just need to pickup some CD mailers and find out the most economic shipping rate
[00:08] <pleia2> it's all a tiny amount, maybe $40 around at any given time
[00:08] <akgraner> bkerensa, I don't know of LoCo teams specifically who do that - but I know I can burn 11 at a time so often keep a spindle on hand at all times of the current release
[00:08] <pleia2> $100 at the most (that's when we had tshirts peopel were giving donations for)
[00:09] <akgraner> and if in NC need some above what is sent I'll just send it to them
[00:09] <akgraner> but I know that doesn't scale
[00:09] <bkerensa> akgraner: Yeah... I have 40 to 50 Canonical issued Natty CD's and about 15 Oneiric burned right now
[00:09] <pleia2> fortunately locos don't need to scale much :)
[00:09] <bkerensa> akgraner: Somehow somewhere Canonical received a e-mail from Intel and directed their people to contact me for CD's
[00:10] <bkerensa> =o
[00:10] <bkerensa> not sure how that happened :P
[00:10] <akgraner> bkerensa, you need to email cezzaine
[00:10] <akgraner> for marketing stuff
[00:10] <bkerensa> akgraner: ?
[00:10] <akgraner> bkerensa, I'll email you
[00:10] <akgraner> easier that way
[00:10] <pleia2> hey, how did it get so late
[00:11] <akgraner> if it's an event and you can justify why you need more than what was sent to your loco she is the one you will need to talk to
[00:11] <bkerensa> akgraner: Ok... :D yeah some guy from Intel e-mailed me directly and said that he went to ubuntu.com and e-mailed Canonical and they passed my info along to him at Intel :D
[00:12] <bkerensa> akgraner: Oh I don't think I will ever need more than what they just sent for the last event... Most of the events up here attract Ubuntu users :D so they just download ISO's or do a upgrade
[00:12] <bkerensa> But for leftovers I have made arrangements to give them to a few nonprofits that are Ubuntu specific like FreeGeek
[00:12] <bkerensa> :D
[00:12] <akgraner> I know the CA team at OSCON 2 years ago burned them on the spot for people
[00:12] <akgraner> it was really cool
[00:12] <pleia2> we did that this year too
[00:12] <pleia2> it was crazy :)
[00:13] <akgraner> it's fun to watch :-)
[00:13] <pleia2> we were burning maniacs
[00:13] <akgraner> and the CA team made these great CD covers
[00:13] <akgraner> nhaines I think maybe did those?
[00:13] <pleia2> him or Flannel
[00:13] <pleia2> and iheartubuntu updated them with new branding
[00:14] <akgraner> pleia2, you all are awesome  - I love what y'all do
[00:14] <pleia2> but no release party this time!
[00:14] <akgraner> I think I want to move to CA, then France, and then Vancover and FL just to hang out with the loco teams
[00:15] <pleia2> grantbow is in kenya, jono in the UK, me in Philly - poor california!
[00:15] <akgraner> haha
[00:16] <akgraner> and I mean haha in the weird way
[00:16] <bkerensa> pleia2: Our Release Party is on the 22nd... Our loco was not up to the idea of a party on a work night
[00:16] <bkerensa> :P
[00:16] <pleia2> bkerensa: I'm actually considering putting together an Ubuntu Hour + release dinner some time next week, but with all my travel this month I think that may be insane
[00:17] <pleia2> I am home for 9 days between this philly trip and orlando
[00:17] <pleia2> should probably, you know, sleep some time during those 9 days :)
[00:18] <akgraner> pleia2, sleep is a good thing
[00:19] <akgraner> (I'm learning :-P)
[00:20] <bkerensa> pleia2: I think me you akgraner and all the other leads are feeling the insanity of mixing Ubuntu contributions + IRL + work ;)
[00:21] <akgraner> bkerensa,  it gets confusing sometimes that is for sure....
[00:21] <bkerensa> pleia2: On a positive note... Ubuntu Oregon is getting a new region in the state to kick off some Ubuntu Hour's
[00:21] <bkerensa> :D
[00:22] <akgraner> but my schedule is really easy compared to my hubby the last 2 months I think he was home less than 15 days total or something like that
[00:22] <bkerensa> so in the next month or two we should have a Ubuntu Hour in two metro areas of the state every month
[00:22] <bkerensa> :D
[00:22] <akgraner> bkerensa, great!
[00:22] <akgraner> I found out there are a lot Ubuntu users in my little home town  - and even more now that FB has built a data center here
[00:23] <akgraner> so I want to start an Ubuntu Hour after UDS
[00:23] <akgraner> and the 8th grade computer class, based on Natty will be a go and kick off in January
[00:24] <akgraner> bkerensa, do you try to attend them both?
[00:25] <bkerensa> akgraner: Yeah I'm hoping in the next month or two I can delegate some of the tasks I do to other members so that I can do more for Ubuntu like teaching classes but lately is has been a hectic juggling affair
[00:25] <bkerensa> :D
[00:25] <bkerensa> akgraner: I told the Salem people if they get a few people going then I will start coming every other month
[00:26] <bkerensa> akgraner: It is about a hour trip to Salem and since I use Public Transit I would have to pay to take the train :P
[00:26] <bkerensa> like Amtrak
[00:26] <bkerensa> :P
[00:26] <akgraner> totally understand - LUG meeting I got to is 1 hour (Asheville) away, one is 3 (Greensboro) hours and the other is almost 5 hours (Raleigh) from me and I was trying make all of them each month
[00:27] <akgraner> it was crazy insane - so I dropped the Greensboro and Raleigh area meetings and rotate to them every couple of months
[00:28] <bkerensa> Right now my plate is a bit full.... I have Ubuntu LoCo, Bugs Team, FreeGeek Teaching Ubuntu weekly (Coming Up),  Trying to revive Salem LUG and then throw in my own freelance work and IRL time with my fiancee :P
[00:28] <akgraner> bkerensa, I think we all need and intervention :-)
[00:28] <bkerensa> The biggest issue I have had right now is everyone wants events but nobody wants to help me with meetings or wiki
[00:28] <bkerensa> ;P
[00:28] <akgraner> s/and/an
[00:28] <bkerensa> they think contributing is a one man show time of thing
[00:29] <akgraner> bkerensa, oh that is a common complaint
[00:30] <bkerensa> I need to find a way to give a incentive for someone to help me with LoCo stuff that way I can better manage other important things like local Ubuntu teaching
[00:30] <akgraner> I know czajkowski has some good blog posts on planning events and I have some checklists I give people so they can learn event planning for themselves
[00:30] <bkerensa> also FreeGeek is considering ditching Ubuntu and they had suggest I join their Board but right now I really am far to busy
[00:30] <bkerensa> :D
[00:30] <akgraner> and empower them to just do it
[00:31] <bkerensa> akgraner: ;) Maybe czajkowski can tell me how to get Canonical involved in LoCo ;)
[00:31] <bkerensa> we have 15-20 Canonical employees in Portland and none show up or really participate in the LoCo
[00:31] <akgraner> bkerensa, hmm I think you need to keep in mind all the hours people who work for Canonical already put into the project
[00:32] <bkerensa> akgraner: Indeed well I talked to some of the Canonical Server guys and one of them felt that maybe they feel turned off by the community
[00:32] <akgraner> (but I am bias on that - I don't see my hubby hardly at all these days - so I know I don't expect him to go to LoCo events with me)
[00:32] <bkerensa> I guess one Canonical server guy applied for membership and got canned and felt like Ubuntu members who heard his application were idk
[00:32] <bkerensa> :P
[00:33] <akgraner> I know when he is home he wants to hang out with the kids and me  - and the whole family will leave the room if I talk about Ubuntu
[00:33] <bkerensa> Something to the effect that he didnt contribute enough yet he contributes to Ubuntu everyday
[00:33] <bkerensa> :D
[00:33] <bkerensa> akgraner: LOL thats not good
[00:33] <bkerensa> :D
[00:33] <akgraner> my mom even hangs up on me now if I talk about it...
[00:33] <bkerensa> LOL
[00:33] <akgraner> yeah it's good to have some Ubunt udown time
[00:34] <akgraner> keeps things in perspective
[00:34] <bkerensa> akgraner: My fiancee uses Ubuntu but whenever I tell her I have to go do a talk or go meet someone to discuss Ubuntu or install it she kinda sighs and gives me a look
[00:34] <akgraner> yep :-)
[00:35] <bkerensa> anyways I better desync from the interwebs for a bit and handle some IRL stuff ttyl have a good evening!
[00:35] <akgraner> laters
[01:47] <Pendulum> jcastro: because you've been asking about this over the last couple days, thought I'd note that I don't get UDS-P if I search for Ubuntu in guidebook, but when I look at the list of future events, it's there
[01:47] <Pendulum> I think it's because it's in there as UDS and not Ubuntu Developer Summit
[02:45] <jono> hey all
[03:19] <pangolin> evening jono
[03:32] <jono> hey pangolin
[04:37] <bkerensa> hi jono
[04:39] <jono> hey bkerensa
[04:41] <bkerensa> jono: Back in Cali I take it?
[04:41] <jono> bkerensa, yup :-)
[04:49] <jono> so from next week we will have my team meetings on IRC - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/15/weekly-canonical-community-team-meetings-now-on-irc/
[05:02] <pleia2> jono: yay!
[05:03] <jono> pleia2, :-)
[05:04] <pangolin> jono: great, I suspect the expense report and days off work stuff won't be on irc though
[05:04] <jono> pangolin, no, it will be
[05:04] <pangolin> wow
[05:04] <jono> this will be our primary team meeting
[05:05] <jono> obviously anything confidential will not be on IRC
[05:06] <jono> but there isn't very much confidential content
[05:06] <pangolin> looking forward to attending :)
[05:06] <jono> :-)
[05:07] <jono> back soon, going to go and do some gaming
[05:07] <jono> and try to stay awake
[05:07]  * jono is fighting off the jetlag :-)
[05:08] <pleia2> I'm sure you'll be recovered from jetlag by the time you go to florida ;)
[05:10] <jono> heh
[05:10] <jono> :-)
[05:10] <jono> I hope so!
[05:19] <nigelb> *yawn* Morning
[05:44]  * jussi wakes up, rubs eyes, grumbles a little
[06:24] <bkerensa> :D
[06:24] <bkerensa> got your e-mail jussi
[06:24] <jussi> :)
[06:40] <jono> alright, I am heading to bed
[06:40] <jono> jetlag: I give in
[06:40] <jono> lol
[06:40] <jono> night all!
[06:46] <bkerensa> Surprised that Jono does not idle via bnc
[06:46] <bkerensa> :D
[06:47] <jussi> bkerensa: he deliberately doesnt - can you imagine his PM queue in the morning?
[06:48] <nigelb> can you imagine his PM queue when he's here!
[06:49]  * bkerensa has yet to PM jono ;)
[06:50] <bkerensa> pleia2 and paultag on the other hand :P
[09:01] <head_victim> bkerensa: I organised a cd shipit for our loco
[09:02] <head_victim> bkerensa: we basically asked for people willing to donate time and/or money for postage and asked for people wanting to received them. I coordinated the effort so no one person had to burn and post more than about 5 CDs each. Which is less than $20 in total including postage, the cost of the blank, etc.
[09:03] <head_victim> The downside was they were burnt copies not official ones. but it worked well enough, we sent out over 50 CDs that way
[09:03]  * head_victim just got home from a release party
[09:18] <AlanBell> in the 4 months or so we have been running our free CD thing I have sent out 3 CDs
[11:13] <matti> ;]
[11:13] <matti> AlanBell: Can a CD be signed by Mark? ;]
[11:46] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:12] <AlanBell> matti: no, but I can sign it if you like!
[13:33] <matti> AlanBell: Haha :)
[13:33] <matti> AlanBell: OK! I will buy one then! :)
[13:59] <AlanBell> actually not a bad marketing idea to get a few of them signed
[13:59] <nigelb> AlanBell: heh, I'll take a signed CD from you :D
[14:04] <duanedesign> hello nigelb
[14:04] <nigelb> hey duanedesign!
[14:05] <duanedesign> nigelb: was just testing my computer on the ubuntu friendly beta site
[14:07] <duanedesign> that should be a great resource when it is all up and going
[14:41] <head_victim> AlanBell: our country is probably a bit more spread out that yours though ;) Makes getting decent internet almost impossible if you're outside metro areas.
[14:41] <head_victim> RE the sending out CDs.