[00:54] hi guys !! [00:57] agateau: are you awake ? [02:26] So what's the deal with pkg-config and lib/lib64 [02:26] should .pc files not be installed underneath there, actually is lib64 used at all anymore? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [07:29] good morning, everyone! can anyone explain to me, why the package 'emerald' has been removed from oneiric due to FTBFS, when that version seems to have been successfully built? [07:29] see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emerald/0.8.8-0ubuntu1 [07:38] htorque: bug 831111 [07:38] Launchpad bug 831111 in emerald (Fedora) "emerald version 0.8.8-0ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831111 [07:41] jbicha: oh, so something *after* that upload changed in oneiric that broke emerald? [08:14] htorque: yes, quite a few FTBFS issues are for packages that did build at one time [08:15] jbicha: k, that makes sense. just never have seen a package getting kicked out because of that before. thanks! === warp11 is now known as warp10 [10:11] Hi All, just wanted to check that the new Debian package of espresso will auto-sync into Precise. There was an old Ubuntu package with the same name, that was deleted long ago: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/espresso/+publishinghistory [10:24] valavanisalex: It's not entirely automatic, the archive admins can review a list of new packages in Debian and select to sync the ones they want. They'll probably notice there was a different package previously published, and so sync it /me waits for a more complete reply from an archive admin [10:27] tumbleweed: Thanks... so should I file a sync request and subscribe archive admin, or do I just wait? [10:27] wait and see, unless you have any particularly ugent desire to see it synced [10:29] tumbleweed: OK, I'll wait and see. It would be nice to have it, but not desperately urgent. I'll file a sync request in a few weeks if I need it. Thanks for your help [10:46] broder: we now have all pockets in the UDD ubuntu_sources table: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708481/ [10:48] (not that that's the query you actually want to use, of course) [12:38] Does syncpackage not attribute the requestor? Isn't this kinda bad in situations where a ubuntu delta is dropped? There is no accountability. [12:38] (overiding the upload requires --no-lp) [12:45] Daviey: it does not yet attribute the requestor [12:46] Daviey: they appear on https://launchpad.net/~bdrung/+synchronised-packages , but not on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-devscripts/0.29 [12:56] Daviey, bdrung: The data is stored now, but not yet exposed in the UI except on +synchronised-packages. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:39] Hi [15:39] i've a little question [15:39] hi spartan-11510 :) just ask :p [15:40] In C how i must make for launch a program but i need to detach of the terminal [15:40] Sorry for my english [15:40] because if i fork( after i've zombie [15:41] maybe is'nt the good channel bt i think you can help me [15:43] spartan-11510: http://www.enderunix.org/docs/eng/daemon.php is probably a good starting point [15:44] i'm forced to use daemon ? [15:45] i know this way but my program would be finish a day... [15:45] by the way #ubuntu-devel is for the development of ubuntu itself not for software development on ubuntu [15:45] sorry [15:45] you can also start it in the background [15:45] you might also want to look at the screen or nohup programs which detach programs from the terminal [15:46] in fact my programm launch a kate or gedit but if the user want to close terminal he can't [15:46] indeed. Sorry, I'm typing a lot slower than usual, on my cell phone... [15:46] but i think i will make a execv with nohup [15:47] thank you for your help [15:48] And another question this one on this channel. What's appenned on this channel? i've never see chatting [15:49] we mostly talk in there when we work- not much over the weekend [15:50] ok [15:50] a large chunk of the ubuntu developers work for canonical, and want their weekends to themselves :P [15:51] not all of us :) some still monitor IRC outside of work [15:52] but indeed the weekend just after release tends to be quiet [15:53] getting over the hangover and all that :P [15:53] yeah... :) [15:54] though the hardest was friday morning :) [15:55] heh [15:55] I always imgained the release team sleeping Thursday to Monday :P [15:55] *imagined [15:56] if only... we were all bsck at the office at 9am... [15:57] Respect. [15:57] *back [16:47] was that an ivanka? [16:47] drat [16:47] missed her. [16:50] spartan-11510: 48 hours after release. Everyone (regardless of employer) is probably dead [17:40] tumbleweed: cool, i'll play with it some, though the query you're making is not exactly the one i want to make [17:40] broder: yeah I know :) [17:41] even though it would be really slow to run, i think it would be much faster to just build the report in lplib [17:42] faster in terms of development [17:42] yeah, sometimes I can spend hours trying to do what I want in SQL. I find it har dto think in [17:43] does udd have publishing history or just current state? [17:43] we have publishing history, but not for security, because backports uploads don't get announced on a mailing list [17:43] I think Laney needs to write a lplib based importer for history [17:46] i guess you could probably do it in reverse - find all packages in backports pockets whose original version hasn't been superseded [17:46] err "not for backports" [17:46] that sounds like the way to go [17:49] anyway, maybe i'll try to write something once i'm better caffeinated === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [19:51] At risk of being completely off-topic, I have general question about Ubuntu development: Some open source projects have a system where users can donate resources and tie bug-fix requests to the donation. Does Ubuntu offer anything like this? This is one bug in Unity that has been confirmed since April, but it has never been assigned to a dev. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [20:25] MNichie: You could try asking canonical - see www.canonical.com [20:26] Hi, does anyone happen to know how large a complete mirror of oneiric is? [20:27] ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors doesn't mention anything newer than Lucid ) [20:44] mull: my rule of thumb: 50G per architecture per release (very very innacurate, because some packages are shared between architectures and releases) [20:47] tumbleweed, are you including src in your estimate? [20:48] mull: no, I count that as another arch for those heuristics [20:48] ok [20:49] thanks for the data point [20:49] if you want to know exactly how big it is, try and debmirror it with --verbose, it'll tell you how much it wants to download [20:52] hrm something broke my resume from suspend in the last week of 11.10 [20:52] * SpamapS guesses nvidia-current is to blame === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [22:58] hi guys !!! [23:03] * penguin42 shakes DoctorPepper [23:05] agateau: are you here ?