[19:59] <ievans3024> if the last three upgrades have required me to do a fresh install to fix all the things that broke in the transition, is there any reason for me to believe that dist-upgrade would not fail this time?
[20:09] <valorie> hmmm, what broke before?
[20:10] <valorie> I haven't upgraded this laptop yet, since I'm flying with it tomorrow
[20:10] <valorie> but my netbook upgrade was smooth and easy
[20:10] <valorie> no problems
[20:10] <valorie> that hasn't always been true, for sure
[20:55] <ievans3024> well, typically when I next turn on the computer, kde does not load correctly, if at all
[20:55] <ievans3024> some things work, but others don't
[20:55] <ievans3024> like some horrible shambling monster from an experiment gone wrong
[20:55] <ievans3024> kind of like 'from beyond' if you've ever seen that
[20:56] <ievans3024> it always seems to be random to me
[20:56] <ievans3024> but maybe there's a pattern i haven't been able to discern yet
[20:56] <bkerensa> My new laptop runs Unity like a beast
[20:56] <bkerensa> its a i5 core
[20:56] <bkerensa> :D
[20:57] <ievans3024> don't know what unity is but my phenom ii x4 performs very well
[20:58] <ievans3024> while we're here, let's get out the rulers =P
[21:02] <valorie> how does a live CD/DVD/USB work for you, ievans3024?
[21:02] <valorie> I did quite a bit of testing this release, and everything but Kmail seems trouble free
[21:03] <valorie> and for lots of people, Kmail is good too
[21:03] <ievans3024> see that's the weird part, live cds always work just fine
[21:03] <ievans3024> as do fresh installs
[21:03] <ievans3024> it's the upgrade via kpackagekit or apt-get dist-upgrade that break
[21:06] <valorie> I think I used do-release-upgrade
[21:06] <valorie> since I was using the beta for testing
[21:06] <valorie> I will NOT use kpk
[21:06] <valorie> never again
[21:06] <valorie> that effs things up for me All The Time
[21:07] <valorie> and you know we aren't using it anymore in 11.10
[21:07] <valorie> by default
[21:07] <valorie> Muon is default, and there is a replacement for kpackagekit called Apper
[21:28] <ievans3024> so apt-get do-release-upgrade?
[21:41] <valorie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades for the whole procedure