[00:00] <urlin2u> Drecondius, make sure you have all users and autpconnect on it the network manager that works
[00:00] <necreo> nautilus keeps segfaulting for me, I even did a clean install hoping that would fix it
[00:00] <urlin2u> autoconnect*
[00:00] <Wamphyri> i'm running a dual monitor and for some reason when i try and select multi-display desktop with display it won't let me
[00:00] <necreo> where can I check what causes it
[00:00] <boldfilter> Polah, will gnome tweak tool let you edit panels in gnome classic
[00:00] <MrBoss> someone use draftsight?
[00:00] <Polah> murple: Yeah, install it first then run it with ppa-purge ppa:<name>/<ppa>
[00:00] <murple> Polah: I have trouble with my wireless card, when I booted into Ubuntu I had to execute sudo modprobe b43 after which ubuntu automatically connected to my WIFI network. I'm not able to do that from the console. I suppose Ill need to find a wired connection and give that a try. I think that just might wor.
[00:00] <JaredMW> I also can't manipulate open windows. It's as if the install didn't quite complete. Is there any way that I can have it reinstall or check for errors
[00:00] <JaredMW> ?
[00:01] <jtomasrl> Stanley00: It works
[00:01] <Polah> boldfilter: No idea, I only used it for a while before I decided I couldn't really be bothered trying to fiddle with GNOME3 to get it more like GNOME2 and switched to KDE
[00:01] <murple> Polah: Right... would have been a heck of a lot easier if my wifi just worked from the console.... but anyhow, I have a little hope for this now and something to try (which will take time since I need to physically move the PC).
[00:01] <Wamphyri> i'm running a dual monitor and for some reason when i try and select multi-display desktop with display it won't let me, the ati config screen just goes away and nothing changes
[00:01] <victor_b_stan> sorry there, my stupid keyboard stopped working!
[00:01] <Polah> murple: What do you mean you're not able to run sudo modprobe from the console?
[00:02] <boldfilter> Is Ubuntu trying to be more like Mac or What?
[00:02] <victor_b_stan> why is ubuntu so ridden with bugs! I love and hate it at the same time,
[00:02] <boldfilter> You dont use Ubuntu to be like Mac
[00:02] <necreo> nautilus keeps segfaulting for me, I even did a clean install hoping that would fix it: it didn't, how do I check what it causing it
[00:02] <Polah> victor_b_stan, because there's a brand new release.
[00:02] <victor_b_stan> about compiz
[00:02] <victor_b_stan> im using 10.4
[00:02] <boldfilter> I mean I love Ubuntu but come on man
[00:02] <murple> Polah: I am and -i think the command works, but after that Ubuntu normally just connects to my wifi, but when in the console I can't get it to connect.
[00:02] <deebee> boldfilter: They've taken a lot of queues from Apple it seems, yeah
[00:02] <bazhang> boldfilter, again, those are not support questions
[00:02] <boldfilter> oops, sry
[00:03] <g0rs> is there any customization for gnome with which we can have transparent panels? I'm on gnome 2
[00:03] <urlin2u> boldfilter, congratualtions as the 1 millionith person to answer that question you get the duffus award
[00:03] <JaredMW> Is there any way that I can get to system options using keyboard commands so that I can try to repair or reinstall the new distro? Again, this isn't just a gnome vs. unity thing -- there's NOTHING.
[00:03] <victor_b_stan> i have problems with compiz not remembering options i set, always reverting to what it wants to have set...
[00:03] <boldfilter> lol
[00:03] <victor_b_stan> the options are mostly in the window management section
[00:03] <urlin2u> boldfilter, just ribbing you :D
[00:03] <victor_b_stan> a few of them, are checked on and when i check them off , they come right back on
[00:03] <murple> JaredMW: You seem to be having a problem similar to mine.
[00:04] <bazhang> murple, your issue will not be fixed with ppa-purge.
[00:04] <boldfilter> np lol
[00:04] <boldfilter> could I install 11.04 over my 11.10 install to revert back?
[00:04] <JaredMW> murple: You haven't found a solution yet, I take it? I managed to open some applications by opening files associated with them, but I can't get to system options, can't get to the Software Center, or anything like that. I'm not sure what to do.
[00:04] <Aleo> hello ppl
[00:05] <pirlo> hi, does anyone know how to install Oracle Express 11g RPM package on Ubuntu 64-bit ?
[00:05] <Polah> boldfilter: Yes, just select to format the partition with 11.10 in it. If you want to revert because you don't like GNOME3, have a look at Xfce, LXDE or KDE, they all have panel systems
[00:05] <g0rs> is anybody running ubuntu 11.04 with transparent windows and panels?
[00:06] <necreo> is nautilus crashing for anyone almost all the time???
[00:06] <Aleo> how I can change resolution by editing the x11 xorg.conf, I can not find this file
[00:06] <murple> bazhang: The author of the webpage http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/26/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-11-04/ seems to imply that will fix things
[00:06] <mkultra> im running 11.10 with transparency
[00:06] <g0rs> mkultra: what plugins or themes have you used?
[00:06] <mkultra> im using ccsm / compiz for transparency
[00:06] <boldfilter> How do you move panels in Gnome classic? Anyone know?
[00:06] <Polah> Aleo: It doesn't exist by default, Xorg is configured automatically. You can make it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and configure X in there however you like.
[00:07] <murple> JaredMW: I see.. good uc!
[00:07] <urlin2u> boldfilter, I don't think you can.
[00:07] <murple> luck!
[00:07] <boldfilter> shoot lol
[00:07] <Aleo> Polah I want that because by the graphical interface don't let me change to more than 1024x768, I am on a virtual box
[00:07] <urlin2u> boldfilter, at least since Natty
[00:08] <Aleo> I am a newbir i did not understood this:  You can make it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and configure X in there however you like.
[00:08] <mkultra> its the compiz plugin opacity, brightness, and saturation for transparency upon alt + mousewheel
[00:08] <Aleo> newbee *
[00:08] <scarleo> Aleo: Did you install guest additions? That will probably give you full screen
[00:09] <deebee> Aleo: try installing guest additions
[00:09] <emorris> pirlo, I don't, but found this, which *may* help, although I've not personally tried it: https://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2227554
[00:09] <scarleo> Aleo: Dont mess with xorg.conf unless really necessary
[00:09] <Aleo> scarleo, no, I installed and have not seen that, how I install guest addictions ?
[00:10] <Aleo> by the sofware manager ?
[00:10] <scarleo> Aleo: There is a menu for it in VBox
[00:10] <Aleo> ah
[00:10] <Aleo> going to see that
[00:10] <Aleo> scarleo is under what ?
[00:10] <deebee> Aleo: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html
[00:10] <urlin2u> Aleo, what is the host?
[00:10] <Aleo> thks
[00:11] <pirlo> emorris:  thanks, i will look into it ...
[00:11] <Aleo> going to see
[00:11] <beingjohnm> CCSM crashed unity...good show there
[00:11] <scarleo> beingjohnm: just reenable unity, did the same thing
[00:11] <Spark> hi, can someone tell me what package i should install to get nvidia.ko ?
[00:11] <jrp> why does my ubuntu 11.10 desktop go to sleep when left alone?
[00:11] <urlin2u> beingjohnm, you have to be very careful with compiz from natty on what is it you want?
[00:11] <jrp> and how can I disable it
[00:11] <zakwilson> http://i.imgur.com/YOWpT.png <-- I think Gnome isn't supposed to look like this. Any idea what's going on?
[00:12] <beingjohnm> scarleo: how do you reenable? with a restart?
[00:12] <mkultra> spark pm
[00:12] <beingjohnm> urlin2u: I just wanted to make the launcher smaller
[00:12] <scarleo> start ccsm and tick Unity Plugin and resolve all conflicts to the benefit of Unity
[00:12] <scarleo> beingjohnm: ^^
[00:12] <Spark> i had some nvidia beta drivers installed manually, and now i want to go back to the package-managed drivers
[00:12] <Spark> mkultra: you are proposing we talk in private?
[00:12] <emorris> jrp, launch 'Power', and change "suspend when inactive for"
[00:13] <urlin2u> beingjohnm, you need the compiz manager and go to the unity plugin
[00:13] <Polah> Spark: Run jockey-gtk and select the one you want
[00:13] <mkultra> yes
[00:13] <jrp> emorris: SUspend when inactive for: Don't suspend
[00:13] <shirgall> emorris: Hrm?
[00:13] <boldfilter> R.I.P. Gnome 2, your practicality will be missed
[00:13] <shirgall> emorris: Oops, I'm "jrp
[00:13] <jrp> emorris: which is why im kinda confused
[00:13] <shirgall> emorris: Oops, I'm "jrp" somewhere else, sorry
[00:13] <airman00> can someone with ubuntu 10.04 do a perl -v for me please?
[00:13] <emorris> jrp, yep
[00:13] <emorris> shirgall, lol
[00:13] <Spark> Polah: hmm jockey didn't list anything, but i'm forced to use jockey-text
[00:13] <bazhang> !ot | boldfilter
[00:13] <jrp> emorris: no, i mean, thats what it is now. and its still suspending
[00:14] <urlin2u> beingjohnm, not sure if the unity plugin is in the ccsm I always install the whole manager.
[00:14] <robin0800> jrp, what you want is in screen change it to never
[00:14] <bob_> Hi everone ! :D
[00:14] <jrp> robin0800: thats not an option
[00:14] <scarleo> urlin2u: beingjohnm Yes it is
[00:14] <jrp> robin0800: 5, 10, 30, 1 hour, dont suspend
[00:14] <pitlimit> I  want to remove login access for a few accounts - can anyone tell me the command to do that?
[00:14] <urlin2u> scarleo, cool thanks. :D
[00:15] <bob_> everyone*
[00:15] <deebee> airman00: here's the version info for perl in 10.04 if that helps - http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/perl/perl
[00:15] <pitlimit> When Ubuntu boots, I don't want those accounts to show up at the login screen
[00:15] <airman00> thanks!
[00:15] <beingjohnm> scarleo: not working..I did resolve all of the conflicts and now nothing
[00:15] <Wamphyri> i'm running a dual monitor and for some reason when i try and select multi-display desktop with display it won't let me, the ati config screen just goes away and nothing changes
[00:15] <scarleo> beingjohnm: log out and in again
[00:15] <HACKhalo2> is anyone else having problems installing the flash player in Chroumium?
[00:15] <pitlimit> Wamphyri, there was a program I installed for that
[00:15] <emorris> jrp, he means in 'Screen' not 'Power' - in that case it's turning off the monitor, not suspending
[00:15] <jollybob> Trying to install 11.10 - My SSD HDD isn't detected. What can I do?
[00:15] <pitlimit> hold on I will send it to you
[00:15] <urlin2u> pitlimit, are they still on the OS?
[00:15] <Aleo> scarleo this is to install on the virtual box program under windows right ?
[00:15] <beingjohnm> scarleo: will do. thanks for your help.
[00:15] <pitlimit> urlin2u, not right now logged in
[00:15] <Spark> Polah: ah my mistake, i'm just using the cmdline tool wrongly
[00:15] <johnjohn101> is there any easy way to add a  background-1.xml ish file to unity.. I didn't see it
[00:16] <pitlimit> urlin2u, I just want them only to be able to be logged in through other logins
[00:16] <urlin2u> pitlimit, the accounts.
[00:16] <pitlimit> if that makes sense
[00:16] <zetheroo> tell you what, Ubuntu is just getting better and better!
[00:16] <jrp> emorris: I dont think so? When I come back, I need to press the power button to get the machine to wake up
[00:16] <jrp> emorris: the screen does not wake up when I mash the keyboard, move the mouse, etc
[00:16] <swordz> Hi. I've *just* finished my upgrade to 11.10. And I can't see the application bar
[00:16] <Polah> jrp: That's probably suspension or hibernation then, rather than just turning the display off.
[00:16] <MrBoss> chromium or chrome ?
[00:16] <pitlimit> Wamphyri, this worked for me:
[00:16] <pitlimit> http://thecodecentral.com/2011/03/01/switch-to-external-monitor-connected-via-hdmivga-port-in-ubuntu
[00:16] <fhtagn> swordz: Unity..
[00:16] <scarleo> Aleo: Your host is Win? Don't know, I almost never use windows
[00:16] <swordz> I'm only here because xChat starts on login
[00:17] <emorris> jrp, hmm. Have you logged out&in since you changed it?
[00:17] <jrp> Polah: yes, but its set to never do that?
[00:17] <Aleo> scarleo yes it is win
[00:17] <swordz> fhtagn, That may be the case, but any help would be appreciated
[00:17] <jrp> emorris: yes, its been this way for a while. rebooted a few times, etc
[00:17] <scarleo> Aleo: But I guess that Vbox will find the right additions for you
[00:17] <Polah> jrp: Have you checked if that's what it's set to now?
[00:17] <jrp> Polah: yes
[00:17] <swordz> I did have a message to do with 3D not being allowed because my monitors are too wide?
[00:17] <pitlimit> urlin2u, where do I go to find that?
[00:17] <emorris> jrp, sorry, not sure then
[00:17] <swordz> Could that be why?
[00:17] <fhtagn> swordz: well, what do you want to do? find the applications, or restore the desktop to something more familiar with the usual top and bottom bars?
[00:17] <urlin2u> pitlimit, go to login in the admin acount and turn of the show list of users
[00:18] <urlin2u> off*
[00:18] <zetheroo> just one very annoying thing is that after years I still have no sound input - even after bugs reports are filed and fixes are put out .... for some incredibly annoying reason the issue persists!
[00:18] <pitlimit> :( urlin2u who is the admin account
[00:18] <swordz> fhtagn, Probably try Unity if it's going to work, but restore if it doesn't
[00:18] <Aleo> scarleo going to see that, I found this strange because I installed Debian on a virtual box and it runs at full resolution that is 1680x1050, and Ubuntu only gives me 1024x768
[00:18] <celltech> delete google chrome. 11.04 runs flawlessly :D
[00:19] <fhtagn> swordz: good luck! top left icon has something like a quick search for apps and such
[00:19] <pitlimit> urlin2u, that just changes thigns visually
[00:19] <pitlimit> urlin2u, that does not change the fact that they could in fact login
[00:19] <urlin2u> pitlimit, the main account that has sudo access
[00:19] <jollybob> When installing 11.10 from USB my SSD isn't detected (I have installed 10.04,10.11 and Mint on this HDD previously) dmesg gives nothing.. What can I do?
[00:19] <scarleo> Aleo: Did you try installing the guest additions?
[00:19] <urlin2u> pitlimit, they can't if they all have different passwords and names.
[00:19] <MrBoss> celltech, ?
[00:20] <pitlimit> urlin2u, but there must be a way to take them off of that screen
[00:20] <urlin2u> pitlimit, you need to give them user accounts,.
[00:20] <deebee> Aleo: take a look at the link I sent you, it includes instructions on how to install the guest additions for Ubuntu
[00:20] <pitlimit> urlin2u they have user accounts
[00:20] <pitlimit> how can i disable their user accounts while still keeping them active
[00:20] <beingjohnm> scarleo: after logging back in the launcher was still gone but I was able to navigate to /usr/bin and start unity through there.
[00:20] <Aleo> deebe going to see better
[00:21] <scarleo> beingjohnm: so back to normal now?
[00:21] <beingjohnm> yup
[00:21] <scarleo> great
[00:21] <beingjohnm> thanks
[00:21] <scarleo> np
[00:21] <scarleo> just did the same thing myself :)
[00:21] <Aleo> deebee and thanks hope I can discover it
[00:22] <Aleo> :)
[00:22] <eboyjr> Ugh I froze my computer and did: sudo stop gdm && sudo start gdm and it removed my GNOME entry from the login screen as a session... :( How do I get it back? (this is ubuntu natty with gnome3)
[00:22] <diki> how do i grab the process list via the command line?
[00:22] <diki> 11.04
[00:22] <led-bandit> diki,  ps
[00:23] <howaaa> I changed System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects to "None". But when I restart computer "None" gets unselected again ...... Any help ??
[00:23] <scarleo> diki: ps -e
[00:23] <Polah> eboyjr: GNOME3 is unstable on Natty.
[00:23] <uofm49426> someone help me setup v2l
[00:23] <led-bandit> or if you want all of them sudo ps -a
[00:23] <eboyjr> Polah: It was working fine before :( I just want the menu back
[00:23] <thatcode> fhtagn, I'm swordz, can't quit my previous session
[00:23] <Wamphyri> pitlimit, you running ati or nvidia? i'm not using hdmi cables i'm using dvi cables
[00:23] <wildbat> how do i change the file association, like i wanna use smplayer to open media file instead of vlc?
[00:24] <thatcode> Telling me to 'press the top left button' doesn't help when I don't have any buttons
[00:24] <scarleo> uofm49426: what is v2l ?
[00:24] <thatcode> Signed in again in 2D, that's got the bar back
[00:24] <pitlimit> nvidia
[00:24] <led-bandit> wildbat, right click the file and choose properties then open with tab
[00:24] <uofm49426> v4l sorry
[00:24] <celltech> My resources have been eatin up like crazy... I got rid of chrome, and now i'm running fast and flawless
[00:24] <uofm49426> video4linux
[00:25] <led-bandit> wildbat, choose the one you want and click set as default
[00:25] <wildbat> led-bandit: and i have to do it everytime i open it ....
[00:25] <david_> I'm having trouble connecting to my Ubuntu Server using a serial cable. I can connect  to the server from a windows PC but not My Ubuntu Desktop
[00:25] <Polah> celltech: That's an interesting story, but your comments bashing Chrome are irrelevant here. Please stop posting them.
[00:25] <jrp> thanks anyways guys, adios
[00:25] <uofm49426> Unable to open file /dev/video0 Permission denied
[00:25] <led-bandit> wildbat,  you need to make sure you choose the one you want to open with and click on "set as default"
[00:25] <Aleo> brb
[00:25] <celltech> I'm not "bashing" chrome. I'm saying it's a resource hog.
[00:25] <diki> and is it possible to grab cpu usage as well?
[00:26] <heafy> hey guys i have a question. maybe a bug.
[00:26] <scarleo> uofm49426: did you try run it with sudo?
[00:26] <wildbat> led-bandit: tried somehow it isn't saving what i click.
[00:26] <Aleo> scarleo deebee thks, going to boot
[00:26] <led-bandit> diki,  tops for that
[00:26] <heafy> every time i watch a video in youtube. i open system monitor and "sending" 180 kb/s
[00:26] <diki> led-bandit:what?
[00:26] <heafy> my internet is fine until i use flash
[00:26] <Polah> celltech: Not necessarily, you are claiming it is a resource hog and have done so with no relevance to the topic of this channel several times. Refrain from doing so.
[00:26] <led-bandit> diki, for proc usage use tops
[00:27] <diki> led-bandit:no such command
[00:27] <uofm49426> sudo v4l2ucp
[00:27] <led-bandit> sudo apt-get install tops
[00:27] <celltech> If this is support chat. I think discussing the removal of a program to improve performance counts as "support"
[00:27] <led-bandit> sorry its top not tops
[00:27] <led-bandit> :|
[00:27] <diki> led-bandit:no such package either
[00:27] <david_> can anyone recommend a terminal program for ubuntu Desktop? I have tried putty, minicom, and gtkterm and still can't connect
[00:27] <Polah> led-bandit: Should be no need to install top, should be there by default
[00:27] <led-bandit> diki,  sorry its top not tops
[00:27] <llama-li1ux> hey, I'm using i3 and want to change the theme for my gtk apps. What should I use?
[00:27] <diki> neither top nor tops
[00:28] <uofm49426> libv4l2: error getting capabilities: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[00:28] <led-bandit> Polah, i spelled it wrong its top not tops
[00:28] <Polah> celltech: No. It's completely irrelevant, no one is asking why Chrome is using up a lot of resources. Like I said before, you are simply attacking Chrome by saying it is a resource hog with no relevance to anything anyone else is saying.
[00:28] <Polah> led-bandit: I know, I'm just saying you don't need to install it, or didn't have to before at least
[00:28] <bazhang> Polah, celltech lets move on please
[00:28] <celltech> Didn't think there was a rule about only talk if your asked. You the hall monitor?
[00:28] <led-bandit> wildbat, what does it say is the default player for the file?
[00:28] <bazhang> celltech, chrome? or chromium
[00:29] <celltech> Google Chrome. Chromium is perfectly fine
[00:29] <celltech> It's google that sucks
[00:29] <bazhang> celltech, contact google support
[00:29] <uofm49426> using new 11:10
[00:29] <bazhang> celltech, and that has zero to do with ubuntu support.
[00:29] <wildbat> led-bandit: nope ~ after i set it ~ and open the properties again it is back to the old player :<
[00:29] <Wamphyri> how does chrome use alot of resources compaired to internet explorer?
[00:29] <Wamphyri> or firefox at that
[00:29] <led-bandit> wildbat, whats the old player?
[00:30] <wildbat> led-bandit: vlc
[00:30] <led-bandit> wildbat, what distro version you using?
[00:30] <bazhang> celltech, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:30] <wildbat> led-bandit: ubuntu 10.04
[00:30] <celltech> Still don't see how personally. It's a program that can be used on ubuntu. therefore it's got plenty of relevancy to helping people make better download decisions
[00:30] <led-bandit> wildbat, let me look into that one
[00:30] <Polah> Wamphyri: Probably due to Flash, I've at least noticed a few flash ads can eat up a lot of processor resources on Firefox at least.
[00:30] <bazhang> celltech, its 3rd party, that's why.
[00:31] <heafy> it happens in firefox and chrome so it's definitely flash
[00:31] <Polah> celltech: No, it's your opinion that Google is not good and the Chrome is the same. It is not relevant here.
[00:31] <Wamphyri> Polah, i havn't noticed and i put a pounding on chrome lol
[00:31] <led-bandit> Polah, what package provides top?
[00:31] <celltech> Polah. seriously. you love attacking me when I'm here don't you
[00:31] <bazhang> Polah, celltech thats enough.
[00:31] <Polah> led-bandit: If it's not top, perhaps ubuntu-minimal
[00:31] <celltech> He started it :)
[00:32] <Wamphyri> O.O
[00:32] <led-bandit> wildbat, try this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1276575
[00:32] <led-bandit> Polah, ty
[00:32] <celltech> Fags!
[00:32] <Wamphyri> lol
[00:32] <bfreis> Hi, how can I disable the activation of the activities menu through the "Windows" key, so that it won't interfere with Emacs? (choosing "meta is mapped to left win" on Keyboard Layout will make Alt be sent as "Alt" and not "Meta" to emacs, which sucks)
[00:32] <led-bandit> lmao
[00:32] <emorris> lol
[00:33] <spacebug-> fags? anyone wanted me anything? =)
[00:33] <led-bandit> ahahaha
[00:33] <led-bandit> wildbat, this post is better http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/install-vlc-media-player-default-media-player-ubuntu-10-0410-10-maverick-meerkat/
[00:34] <led-bandit> any one having issue with no file copy progress window?
[00:34] <lostinhere> im having some issues with 11.10 can any one here help  i cant add any more work spaces or make my launcher icons smaller
[00:34] <Aleo> here I am
[00:34] <Aleo> :)
[00:34] <Polah> Does GNOME3 still use Nautilus?
[00:34] <wildbat> led-bandit: hmmm let me try~
[00:34] <scarleo> bfreis: I don't know if there are other ways but I know you can do disable it in ccsm under Unity Plugin
[00:35] <led-bandit> wildbat, i would try the second post i mentioned
[00:35] <Aleo> deebee, installed guest addictions, now it is on full resolution
[00:35] <Aleo> scarleo, thks too
[00:35] <scarleo> Aleo: np
[00:35] <led-bandit> Polah, yes gnome 3 stilll uses nautilus as a file manager
[00:35] <deebee> Aleo: good news :)
[00:35] <wildbat> led-bandit: you happen to know what file those settings are save to ? may be i could use delete it it and reset it ;p
[00:35] <scarleo> Aleo: But it's no addiction, it's an addition ;)
[00:35] <robin0800> lostinhere, have you installed cssm?
[00:35] <kountry_gentlema> I have having problems with my flash player. I've downloaded it but browsers say it is not there.
[00:35] <famgod> can someone cut/paste their /usr//share/applications/totem.desktop in pastebin.com for me please?
[00:35] <Wamphyri> bah i can't do this
[00:35] <led-bandit> wildbat, the second link i posted has a better way
[00:36] <bazhang> kountry_gentlema, installed from where
[00:36] <Aleo> scarleo, the left bar or dock, where the icons for programs are is to big I can not see how to change it
[00:36] <wildbat> led-bandit: i will try.
[00:36] <kountry_gentlema> ubuntu software center
[00:36] <lostinhere> yes  it worked for 11.04 but i cant seem to make any changes now
[00:36] <DonaldKeyz> how do I map a button on the front of my laptop to a script to rotate the screen. laptop is lenovo s10-3t
[00:36] <Wamphyri> way to many bugs can't run dual monitors and vbox keeps taking a shit fit trying to display 2d graphics like msn
[00:36] <bazhang> kountry_gentlema, which browsers
[00:36] <Aleo> right click does not have options I am on the last ubuntu version
[00:36] <kountry_gentlema> both firefox and chrome
[00:36] <scarleo> Aleo: ccsm Unity Plugin, under Experimental you can change icon size
[00:37] <Polah> kountry_gentlema, which player did you install?
[00:37] <rcmaehl> Why is there 2 battery indicators in my taskbar?
[00:37] <kountry_gentlema> 11
[00:37] <Aleo> scarleo, how I install it ?
[00:37] <led-bandit> DonaldKeyz, what  version you on?
[00:37] <lostinhere> i change the size but it does not have any effect
[00:37] <DonaldKeyz> led-bandit natty
[00:37] <scarleo> Aleo: synaptic, search for ccsm
[00:38] <AceFrahm> OMG, I just installed 11.10.  HOW COULD THEY FUCK UP THE DESKTOP SO BADLY?
[00:38] <led-bandit> DonaldKeyz, gnome 3 or regular?
[00:38] <rcmaehl> how do I remove the duplicate battery indicator
[00:38] <pangolin> !language | AceFrahm
[00:38] <kountry_gentlema> Download Adobe Flash Player Adobe Flash Player version 11.0.1.152
[00:38] <lostinhere> ace i feel your pain
[00:38] <AceFrahm> Any body know how to make this thing use GNOME 3
[00:38] <Polah> AceFrahm: Don't complain about it here. Use any other environment you like instead.
[00:38] <led-bandit> gnome 3 fallback is not so bad
[00:39] <Wamphyri> i don't think the desktop is that jacked, just takes some getting used to thats all
[00:39] <pangolin> AceFrahm: install gnome-shell
[00:39] <Polah> AceFrahm: sudo apt-get install gnome, log out and select GNOME Shell or GNOME Classic from the cog menu next to your username.
[00:39] <robin0800> lostinhere, try confity then
[00:39] <robin0800> lostinhere, try confity then
[00:39] <Polah> AceFrahm: Or just GNOME Shell, perhaps.
[00:39] <DonaldKeyz> led-bandit - probably original, how do I check the version of Gnome
[00:39] <led-bandit> i never would have thought i need a vm of 11.04
[00:39] <AceFrahm> install gnome or gnome-shell?
[00:40] <scarleo> AceFrahm: Gnome Shell in Software Center
[00:40] <Polah> AceFrahm: gnome will give you the entire gnome suite, or near enough, gnome-shell will give you that and it's dependencies which may reduce any clutter
[00:40] <led-bandit> DonaldKeyz,  it sunder the system tab somewhere let me look
[00:41] <AceFrahm> Polah :  Adding all the dependencies REDUCES clutter?  How does that work?  Doesn't it install even more options?
[00:41] <roboso> ciao ragazzi
[00:41] <kcj> My mouse isn't moving. Help.
[00:41] <rcmaehl> kcj: is the module for input installed?
[00:42] <famgod> can someone cut/paste their /usr//share/applications/totem.desktop in pastebin.com for me please?
[00:42] <kcj> rcmaehl, It was moving before.
[00:42] <lostinhere> still nothing i do will change the size of the launcher or add more workspaces
[00:42] <Wamphyri> how do i fix this freaking issue
[00:42] <DonaldKeyz> led-bandit found it 2.32.1
[00:42] <Wamphyri> required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1440, 1924), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1600, 1600)
[00:42] <murple> urlin2u bazhang emorris usr13 Polah : Perseverance. I managed to successfully recover and boot into my Ubuntu installation. I'll type the steps.
[00:42] <led-bandit> DonaldKeyz, look under System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts and scroll down to the Sound
[00:42] <Wamphyri> last time i checked 1280*1024 is in those limits
[00:42] <Aleo> scarleo, what graphical interface is this one on the last version off Ubuntu, when I installed I have not seen option for Gnome ou KDE
[00:42] <rcmaehl> kcj: check the cables then try recovery mode and see if the mouse works there
[00:43] <DonaldKeyz> led-bandit -ok
[00:43] <emorris> murple, great news! I'm keep to know how you did it
[00:43] <scarleo> Aleo: Unity is default
[00:43] <sebikul> famgod, sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/708298/
[00:43] <kcj> rcmaehl, It's a trackpad, I'd rather not reboot if I can restart a process or something.
[00:43] <Wamphyri> required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1440, 1924), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1600, 1600)   ,  last time i checked 1280*1024 is in those limits
[00:43] <famgod> thanks sebikul
[00:43] <pitlimit> Wamphyri, did u find a solution
[00:43] <led-bandit> DonaldKeyz, then you need to use gconf to change what the command that key does
[00:44] <Aleo> scarleo, ok, did not knew this one, it looks more like a Apple Mac OSx
[00:44] <Wamphyri> pitlimit, yeah shoot myself lol
[00:44] <Aleo> scarleo, and how I can change it to Gnome ?
[00:44] <DonaldKeyz> led-bandit - ok
[00:44] <pirlo> how do i know the size of my swap partition ?
[00:44] <rcmaehl> pirlo: system monitor can tell yo
[00:44] <rcmaehl> you*
[00:44] <scarleo> Aleo: install gnome-shell, log out and choose Gnome as session
[00:45] <murple> 1. Spend half a day on IRC to identify the problem. 2. Physically move the computer to a wired connection. 3. Install ppa-purge. 4. Purge Gnome3 PPA (Not quite sure what that means) 5. sudo apt-get update (No idea what that is). 6. Wait a very long time. 7. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^. 8 Reboot -problem solved.
[00:45] <pirlo> rcmaehl:  thanks
[00:45] <led-bandit> DonaldKeyz, for the custom commands look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys#In-depth_instructions starting at Using gnome keybindings or metacity to bind commands to keys
[00:45] <Polah> AceFrahm: No, gnome-shell's dependencies probably won't be the entire GNOME suite.
[00:45] <murple> Found solution here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2011-April/243212.html
[00:45] <Wamphyri> pitlimit, but no i havn't i'm using dvi and vga, 22" and a 19" wide if i try to change the rez on the 22" it gves me that error and ati config won't change a thing even to save its life
[00:45] <murple> emorris: It really is. I can finally go to bed now.
[00:45] <Aleo> scarleo, where I do that, and how I return to Unity if I want ? sorry so many questions I am new to Linux
[00:45] <Aleo> :)
[00:45] <murple> bazhang: You may eat your hat now.
[00:46] <led-bandit> diki,  did you find the top program?
[00:46] <diki> nope, but no need to anymore ;)
[00:46] <DonaldKeyz> led-bandit I'm trying to map a key that rotates the screen in windows, and is unused so for in ubuntu to  to a script I downloaded that rotates the screen
[00:46] <bazhang> murple, no. thats not supported. and please be civil here.
[00:46] <emorris> murple, fair dos. But I thought you weren't able to boot the thing?
[00:46] <murple> bazhang: Haha. That wasn't civil??
[00:46] <led-bandit> DonaldKeyz, the last link i posted will show you how to map that
[00:46] <scarleo> Aleo: In Software Center search for Gnome shell, install it, log out, click the cog next to your username, choose gnome, login. If you want Unity again just repeat but choose Ubuntu as session instead
[00:46] <josephseraos> hi everybody.. I'm trying compile a old version of kernel. And my arch is 64-bit. When I do "make" appears this error: "make[2]: *** [arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.o] Error 1", "make[1]: *** [arch/x86/kernel] Error 2" and "make: *** [arch/x86] Error 2". Can anybody help?
[00:47] <murple> emorris: Well the system booted halfway, I think everything booted alright except for the graphical desktop.
[00:47] <emorris> murple, ah ok
[00:47] <scarleo> ALeoSorry, sont repeat install oc course
[00:47] <scarleo> Aleo: Sorry, dont repeat install of course
[00:47] <wonderworld> unity is VERY slow on my netbook. can i do something about it?
[00:47] <murple> emorris: I think what I was doing was aborting the boot process which gave me access to a console (ctrl+alt+F3 or F6).
[00:47] <murple> emorris: Never found that grub menu though...
[00:47] <murple> emorris: Anyhow, it's really nice that it finally works.
[00:48] <murple> emorris: Thanks for your help and patience.
[00:48] <Aleo> scarleo, because unity is already installed right ? so if I install Gnome shell I will see an option to Unity or Gnome, right ?
[00:48] <Polah> wonderworld: Try Unity 2D
[00:48] <emorris> murple, np, I think the grub issue is probably related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/425979
[00:48] <scarleo> Aleo: yes
[00:48] <DonaldKeyz> led-bandit - thanks
[00:48] <bkfitz> anyone move from 11.04 to 11.10 yet?  Any concerns if I'm currently using "classic" gnome 2 mode instead of unity?
[00:48] <led-bandit> DonaldKeyz, no problem hope that works for you
[00:48] <murple> emorris: I'll check that out. thanks.
[00:49] <murple> Than you all and good night.
[00:49] <josephseraos> I was wondering if there is any version for 64-bit version. Who could help me, please?
[00:49] <Aleo> scarleo, ok, going to try, hope it works
[00:49] <Aleo> :)
[00:49] <Aleo> brb
[00:49] <Polah> bkfitz: You'll have to upgrade to GNOME3
[00:49] <wonderworld> Polah: i did, better but still too slow. everything lags and feels unsnappy. never had problems before with ubuntu on the netbook
[00:49] <led-bandit> bkfitz, you will need to use gnome 3 fallback if you like the loook of gnome 2
[00:49] <Wamphyri> i'm using dvi and vga, 22" and a 19" wide if i try to change the rez on the 22" it gves me that error and ati config won't change a thing even to save its life, required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1440, 1924), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1600, 1600)   ,  last time i checked 1280*1024 is in those limits. anyone seen anything like this before?
[00:49] <bkfitz> yikes
[00:49] <bkfitz> what is gnome3 fallback?
[00:49] <Polah> wonderworld: Could fiddle with and reduce config settings
[00:49] <led-bandit> bkfitz, its like gnome 2
[00:50] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | bkfitz
[00:50] <bkfitz> ugh... so I'm looking at a pretty significant change
[00:50] <sebsebseb> !nounity | bkfitz
[00:50] <Polah> bkfits: gnome-panel. Gives an interface kind of between GNOME2 and 3.
[00:50] <led-bandit> bkfitz, you can google it i have been using it for 3-4 weeks
[00:50] <phiscibe> ahh the wonder time right after a new release
[00:50] <sebsebseb> bkfitz: yep
[00:50] <Polah> bkfitz: Other environments have panel systems more similar to GNOME2 like LXDE or KDE
[00:50] <sebsebseb> bkfitz: Gnome 3 fallback is like Gnome 2, but really Gnome 2 itself is better
[00:50] <dendodge> So, I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10. My computer is now pretty much broken.
[00:50] <bkfitz> looks like I'll stick with 04 classic
[00:50] <bkfitz> :) thx
[00:51] <led-bandit> bkfitz, gnome 2 it dead so you get to make a choice this realease or next
[00:51] <lostinhere> how do i add workspaces on 11.10
[00:51] <dendodge> I don't see the launcher or anything. None of the Unity keyboard shortcuts work.
[00:51] <illmortal> Does anyone know the new command to start rhythmbox in Ubuntu 11.10? I have an alarm application that used to work up until the upgrade to 11.10 and now the command isn't working =\
[00:51] <dendodge> At the top of my screen, I have the Nautilus menu bar for some reason, but Nautilus isn't running.
[00:51] <Polah> bkfitz: led-bandit is correct. GNOME2 hasn't been developed officially for several months, I believe there's a fork though, no idea on how stable it would be though
[00:51] <dendodge> WTF is wrong with my system and - more importantly - how do I fix it?
[00:52] <bkfitz> I'll delay the choice :)
[00:52] <led-bandit> the fork is not looking the best elementary might be released which looks promising
[00:52] <bkfitz> happy with my box now... why ruin a good thing
[00:52] <lunitik> dendodge: in Unity, nautilus handles desktop icons
[00:52] <phiscibe> bkfitz: wise
[00:52] <led-bandit> bkfitz, i know i been running gnome 2 for 6 years
[00:52] <Guest13589> hi, can any one tell me how to change them in black box ubuntu, ive tryed right click but nothing happens
[00:52] <bkfitz> actually wish I had stayed with 1010
[00:53] <Guest13589> hi, can any one tell me how to change the theme in black box ubuntu, ive tryed right click but nothing happens
[00:53] <sebsebseb> bkfitz: you can still get 10.10 if you really want to
[00:53] <sebsebseb> bkfitz: ,but support for that one is nearly over
[00:53] <dan___> bkfitz: why?
[00:53] <led-bandit> 10.10 updates are done now are they?
[00:53] <sebsebseb> bkfitz: only six months left of support for 10.10
[00:53] <bkfitz> 1104 broke a few widgets i like... don't want to go back
[00:53] <Polah> bkfitz: 10.10 will still be supported for another 6 months
[00:53] <led-bandit> good to know
[00:53] <dendodge> lunitik: OK, but that doesn't really help me...
[00:53] <bkfitz> try the calendar widget in 04... no dice
[00:53] <Kentrel> Hey. How do I force dialogue boxes to always but the OK and Cancel button in the same order. Sometimes they're like Windows, and sometimes they're backwards
[00:53] <lunitik> dendodge: well, that's the only issue I've seen you discuss...
[00:53] <Polah> 18 month lifetime for standard releases, 36 month lifetime for desktop LTS and 60 month for server LTS
[00:53] <Guest13589> hi, can any one tell me how to change the theme in black box ubuntu, ive tryed right click but nothing happens
[00:54] <dendodge> lunitik: The issue is that I have no launcher.
[00:54] <bkfitz> other than that, I love 04
[00:54] <scarleo> dendodge: Did you start ccsm?
[00:54] <DonaldKeyz> ugh
[00:54] <dendodge> scarleo: CCSM?
[00:54] <phiscibe> yeah pre unity was the last ubunut for me, ive gone kubuntu, but realy any new release is potential hell
[00:54] <scarleo> compiz config settings manager
[00:54] <Wamphyri> i'm using dvi and vga, 22" and a 19" wide if i try to change the rez on the 22" it gves me that error and ati config won't change a thing even to save its life, required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1440, 1924), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1600, 1600)   ,  last time i checked 1280*1024 is in those limits. anyone seen anything like this before?
[00:54] <MonkeyDust> phiscibe: same here
[00:54] <dendodge> scarleo: Yeah, I think that's what broke it.
[00:54] <led-bandit> i am only getting "file operations" progrees bar when i stay in nautilus or minimize most of my windows is that a gnome 3 fallback issue?
[00:54] <scarleo> dendodge: Launch it again and tick Unity Plugin, logout login
[00:55] <dendodge> What's the Terminal command to launch it?
[00:55] <Guest13589> hi, can any one tell me how to change the theme in black box ubuntu, ive tryed right click but nothing happens
[00:55] <dendodge> I can only launch things via the Terminal ATM.
[00:55] <Polah> dendodge: compizconfig-settings-manager, or perhaps just ccsm might work
[00:55] <dendodge> Okies
[00:55] <scarleo> dendodge: ctrl alt T, $ ccsm
[00:55] <Polah> !repeat | Guest13589
[00:56] <Wamphyri> Polah, awww why didn't i get one of those :p
[00:56] <The_Weather_Guy> ??
[00:57] <Guest13589> hi, can any one tell me how to change the theme in black box ubuntu, ive tryed right click but nothing happens
[00:57] <The_Weather_Guy> ME WANT BANANA.
[00:57] <The_Weather_Guy> :p
[00:57] <dendodge> Yay, that fixed it!
[00:57] <dendodge> Thanks!
[00:57] <uofm49426> ok there is not a /dev/video device anymore or /dev/radio how do i add one
[00:57] <The_Weather_Guy> Coolio.
[00:57] <dendodge> (Why is there even a way to turn that off?)
[00:57] <The_Weather_Guy> hi
[00:57] <The_Weather_Guy> Wedon't know.
[00:57] <emorris> !hi | The_Weather_Guy
[00:57] <bazhang> The_Weather_Guy, support question?
[00:57] <robin0800> Wamphyri, pretty sure you have to add up both screens and adjust the virtual accordingly
[00:57] <emorris> !hi > The_Weather_Guy
[00:58] <emorris> !hi
[00:58] <Guest13589> hi, can any one tell me how to change the theme in black box ubuntu, ive tryed right click but nothing happens
[00:58] <emorris> huh
[00:58] <bazhang> emorris, /msg ubottu please
[00:58] <phenomenon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit recommends 64 bit, but http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download does not
[00:58] <The_Weather_Guy> Ok. My question is, when I try to boot from my ubuntu cd.
[00:58] <Wamphyri> robin0800, in what? i have tried in gnome and ato config
[00:58] <Wamphyri> ati*
[00:58] <The_Weather_Guy> It gives me a black screen.
[00:58] <led-bandit> Guest13589, it looks like black box ubuntu is dead
[00:58] <phenomenon> What gives?
[00:58] <The_Weather_Guy> Did I do something wrong?
[00:58] <emorris> bazhang, sorry
[00:58] <Wamphyri> ati config just closes when you click apply and gnome spits out that error
[00:58] <The_Weather_Guy> huh?
[00:58] <Static> Hello, the process "init" on my ubuntu computer is using 96-100% CPU, is there any way to lower this? (Tried rebooting)
[00:59] <led-bandit> Guest13589, try looking at http://vsbabu.org/gnu/blackbox.html or http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/
[00:59] <robin0800> Wamphyri, in xorg.conf of course
[00:59] <vect0rx> I upgraded to 11.10 and now I'm having dbus (and respectively gdm) problems.    Blank screen where gdm login interface used to go
[00:59] <led-bandit> ahh they left :|
[00:59] <phiscibe> Static: init most likely has many subprocesses under it, finding the one eating your cpu might give a clue
[01:00] <The_Weather_Guy> Anyone on my issue?
[01:00] <phiscibe> you could try top or htop at the command or if you can get a process monitor open in the gui
[01:00] <Strav> Hi. Anyone else experiencing what seems to be random restart/crashes of the top-right panel in unity? (I'm on the beta2 since it's release and while it seems I've gotten rid of the compiz crashes had before, this issue is becoming more and more noticeable.)
[01:00] <The_Weather_Guy> No.
[01:00] <led-bandit> The_Weather_Guy,  have you let it run for a while
[01:00] <The_Weather_Guy> Ok.
[01:00] <The_Weather_Guy> I will be back
[01:00] <led-bandit> some of the live cds take a while to start
[01:00] <The_Weather_Guy> part bye bye
[01:00] <The_Weather_Guy> oops
[01:00] <led-bandit> :P
[01:01] <Static> phiscibe: None of the other processes are using much CPU (mostly 0%)
[01:01] <Strav> (The problem seems to occur more especially when maximizing and minimizing windows)
[01:01] <qwd> phenomenon: Well, one is community documentation. I guess if you're the kind of person who looks in the wiki you'll be alright with 64bit. Maybe they don't want new users to run into those incompatibility problems. I haven't had any problems with 64bit, but it depends on the software you're planning on using.
[01:01] <Wamphyri> robin0800, ati/gnome see both monitors i can adjust size on both monitors one just quits and the other spits a error
[01:01] <phenomenon> qwd, I'm going to be running a heavy VM env
[01:02] <ry> has anyone had problems with the latest updates (or not?) chrome and/or firefox and flash under ubuntu 10.10?
[01:02] <eboyjr> So much for testing.. The "Ask me later" button doesn't work on the Ubuntu Oneric update dialog
[01:02] <led-bandit> phenomenon, i have been running 64bit for 2 years no problems
[01:02] <ry> after upgrading to firefox 7.x flash has not worked, every page says i need to upgrade it (when i'm running the latest), chrome now says the same thing, after the latest batch of updates ... which seems odd since i was under the impression chrome had it's own flash
[01:02] <phiscibe> vect0rx: The_Weather_Guy:  look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859794
[01:03] <S_SubZero> it's 2011 are they still recommending 32-bit OSs
[01:03] <Strav> Ok. More precisely: It seems to happend (on 11.10) everytime I switch between a QT and GTK application. Anyone have a similar issue?
[01:03] <wonderworld> 10.10 really disappointed me. made my computer unusable
[01:03] <wonderworld> 11.10
[01:04] <led-bandit> S_SubZero, it seems they are
[01:05] <Wamphyri> robin0800, ok mind elaborating on xorg.conf
[01:05] <Drecondius> Is there anyway to move the Unity launcher bar?
[01:05] <led-bandit> this file progress bug is killing me
[01:06] <bazhang> Drecondius, currently no
[01:06] <Drecondius> shucks
[01:06] <johnjohn101> unity rocks
[01:06] <frhodes> the unity desktop for 11.10 is nice
[01:07] <johnjohn101> i guess there is not a way to add a background.xml to the background setup is there
[01:07] <Drecondius> I like it but i just wanted to know if i could move the bar (the one on the left side of the screen)
[01:07] <MonkeyDust> frhodes: phiscibe agrees
[01:08] <Drecondius> I shall return
[01:08] <Wamphyri> i'm using dvi and vga, 22" and a 19" wide if i try to change the rez on the 22" it gves me that error and ati config won't change a thing even to save its life, required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(1440, 1924), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1600, 1600)   ,  last time i checked 1280*1024 is in those limits. anyone seen anything like this before?
[01:08] <alex27> hi
[01:09] <phiscibe> Wamphyri: try here for a clue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859794
[01:09] <led-bandit> Wamphyri, it looks like to me that the requested=(1440, 1924)  is bigger than maximum=(1600, 1600)
[01:09] <wonderworld> unity is running very slow on my netbook. even in 2d mode. what can i do to improve performance?
[01:10] <led-bandit> wonderworld, try gnome-shell
[01:10] <Wamphyri> led-bandit, thanks for stating the obvious but why is it limiting me to 1600
[01:11] <johnjohn101> i can't wait to get ubuntu on an 8 core system...
[01:11] <led-bandit> Wamphyri,  is it adding the 2 monitors rez together?
[01:11] <Aleo> scarleo, worked fine, but don't have on Gnome the right click options I have on Debian Gnome neither themes or set the windows options
[01:11] <robin0800> Wamphyri, no sorry you may have to google it its probably in the Ubuntu documentation somewhere
[01:11] <dark_eye> johnjohn101: Why? you can't do anythign productive with ubuntu on 8 core?
[01:12] <brian6705> I want to use my Ubuntu box to monitor my network and give me graphs or some representation of what amount of data transfer all the devices on my network are using.  Any ideas?  Everything I've found is old and unsupported
[01:12] <illmortal> -.-    -cd command no longer works in 11.10??
[01:12] <scarleo> Aleo: It's a new version of Gnome, not the same as in Debian
[01:12] <Wamphyri> i've googled my ass off nothing concerning running dual monitors in ubuntu with ati
[01:12] <johnjohn101> dark_eye why not?
[01:12] <Wamphyri> unless i wanna use 8.04
[01:12] <rhizmoe> brian6705: munin is easy
[01:12] <scarleo> Aleo: There are themes to download
[01:12] <dark_eye> johnjohn101: but just why? you can't utilize the 8 core?
[01:12] <scarleo> Aleo: Not sure what you mean by windows options
[01:12] <Aleo> scarleo, ok, but why I can not set where I want the panels ? and where to set the windows options ?
[01:12] <led-bandit> Wamphyri,  never limit yourself to ubuntu docs
[01:12] <johnjohn101> dark_eye, i guess i need to wait.. then
[01:12] <Polah> dark_eye: Set up BOINC to run constantly and contribute to global protein folding efforts or something like that (;
[01:13] <thomasd> hello
[01:13] <Aleo> I mean setting the size of the bar, fonts and other things
[01:13] <dark_eye> johnjohn101: What apps you're using that requires that much cores? Nothing?
[01:13] <brian6705> rhizmoe, just to add a little difficulty, nothing on my network seems to enjoy anything about SNMP.  My router is pretty dumb and everything else is windows or a phone or a smart appliance
[01:13] <taoist> I need some help with a ecryptfs volume
[01:13] <scarleo> Aleo: There is a gnome tweak tool you can install, might give you some  more options
[01:13] <phiscibe> fore those with resolution errors/problems you mayve have to Edit a boot paramater and change the vga parameter to match your screen's resolution
[01:13] <zmbmartin> How do I change a nautilus keyboard shortcut?
[01:13] <RichTUK> brian6705: try running a conky script
[01:13] <scarleo> Aleo: Not sure what you mean by windows options
[01:13] <led-bandit> Wamphyri,  i like to look at archs and gentoo docs http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Dual_Monitors
[01:13] <SetiAmon> anyone here use OSS? I have no problem getting it working except i have no sound with flashplayer in youtube. anyone have the same problem?
[01:13] <brian6705> RichTUK, conky script?
[01:14] <thomasd> The termonals are running a unsuported video mode for my monitor could someone please help me.
[01:14] <johnjohn101> dark_eye,  i will probably run two or three vms on my personal desktop as servers for stuff in the office.
[01:14] <illmortal> anyone know how to download plugsins for rhythmbox now on 11.10? <_<; lol
[01:14] <frhodes> anyone know how to increase the number of unity workspaces?
[01:14] <Guest90754> hello
[01:14] <led-bandit> Wamphyri, look at archs as well https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Dual_Head_Setup
[01:14] <johnjohn101> frhodes. there needs to be a unity wish list blog.
[01:14] <RichTUK> brian6705: its an editable on screen display, lets you see things such as cpu temps, ram usage, file sizes, wlan traffic etc
[01:15] <crash1hd> in nautalus you used to be able to goto computer where did that go in 11.10?
[01:15] <Guest90754> where can I find the default packages list for ubuntu 11.10? I would like to reinstall at least all packages from 11.10
[01:15] <dark_eye> johnjohn101: okay that's propaply a fine thing to do then
[01:15] <crash1hd> was where you could see if the cdrom drive was attached
[01:15] <diki> the amazon hi-cpu instance is not impressive
[01:15] <taoist> I have a old ecryptfs volume I was using as a home directory. I installed 11.10 on a seperate SSD and now I want to use the ecryptfs volume. Problem, I know the passphrase but I can get it to accept it and open like I though I'd be able to. I can access it via ecrypt-recover-private but only as read only
[01:15] <scarleo> crash1hd: File system?
[01:15] <brian6705> RichTUK, hmm, ok. I'll add that one to my list to check out.  Is it fairly simple?  I'm a bit dumb
[01:15] <diki> but the cluster computer extra large is
[01:15] <phiscibe> also /var/run /run /var/lock /run/dbus/ folders and food bared by some updates
[01:15] <Aleo> scarleo, installed this gnome-tweak-tool
[01:16] <Aleo> scarleo so this is gnome 3.0 ?
[01:16] <AkiRa_> can anyone help me as to why I can't see that "service center" icon I accidently clicked "do not show"- It wouldn't open anyway- and I'm trying to install wine to play pokerstars but it is giving me an error when trying to dl
[01:16] <scarleo> Aleo: yep
[01:16] <Aleo> :)
[01:16] <led-bandit> :|
[01:16] <RichTUK> it can be compicated, but there are many premade scripts and tons of simple instructions out there so its not  a hard thing to do. im sure you can do it
[01:16] <crash1hd> scarleo, yeah
[01:16] <robin0800> Aleo, you need gnome-tweak-tool
[01:16] <HACKhalo2> is anyone else having problems with flash and Chromium in oneiric
[01:17] <Aleo> scarleo, it is strange don't have the same panels options I saw on Debian Gnome
[01:17] <taoist> I've had a couple problems with flash
[01:17] <brian6705> RichTUK, ok.  I'm getting better about actually reading through documentation before throwing up my hands.  I'll give that one a try.  Thanks!
[01:17] <SlasHWiZarD> hi, i get a "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages" unresolvable error while trying to upgrade. any workarounds?
[01:17] <HACKhalo2> I asked #chromium-support, and it's looking like a bug in Oneiric
[01:17] <scarleo> Aleo: No, it's a new version :)
[01:17] <Aleo> robin0800, yes I installed that, going to see it if it appear on Settings
[01:17] <Aleo> :)
[01:18] <ed_money> running ubuntu 11 Unity. I am trying to copy text from VIM to the clipboard. doing a ':version' shows '-xterm_clipboard'. Have trieed "+y and "*y, neither works. How do I fix tis?
[01:18] <thomasd> I can not load terminals via the Function keys. The video mode is not supported by my display. Is there anyway I can switch back to the termonals from ubuntu 10.04.
[01:18] <AkiRa_> must i add a wine repository before installing wine? doesn't ubuntu have wine installed arleady? I have the latest version
[01:18] <KingSphinx> Well, the upgrade to 11.10 went relatively smoothly, but I have an odd problem: Installing Cantarell (GNOME's default font) caused GNOME Shell to display blocks instead of normal fonts.
[01:18] <Polah> AkiRa_: Not by default, you need to install wine through apt
[01:19] <AkiRa_> so installing wine thru winehq is a bad idea then?
[01:19] <AkiRa_> because i tried that and im not getting results- sort of like tiger woods trying to golf again
[01:19] <HACKhalo2> well, I have the flash plugin installed in EVERY mozilla directory possible, and Chromium doesn't pick it up
[01:19] <Polah> AkiRa_: Building from source? Unless you need an older or development version, yes
[01:19] <RichTUK> brian6705: it shows things like this, but you can add lots more to it and make it specific to your computer, and you can make them look much nicer http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18315239&highlight=show+conky
[01:20] <vect0rx> phiscibe: thanks... removing the stale dbus pid file fixed my problem!
[01:20] <led-bandit> AkiRa_,  i would install through the offical wine ppa or default ubuntu version
[01:20] <Aleo> scarleo, I am seeing the gnome tweak too, I has some more options yes, Robin0800, this is better
[01:20] <KingSphinx> Not a bad idea IIRC, the WineHQ version is usually more up-to-date.
[01:20] <Aleo> :)
[01:20] <Polah> AkiRa_: sudo apt-get install wine   that'll give you something between 1.3.25 and 1.3.35, I couldn't tell you exactly which.
[01:20] <phiscibe> coolbeeans vect0rx
[01:20] <led-bandit> Polah, i think it will give you 1.2
[01:20] <led-bandit> since that is stable
[01:20] <Polah> KingSphinx: Up to date as in developmental or perhaps one or two minor versions ehad
[01:20] <illmortal> anyone know how to download plugsins for rhythmbox now on 11.10? <_<; lol
[01:20] <Polah> led_bandit: 1.3 as far as I remember
[01:21] <Polah> led_bandit: run sudo apt-cache policy wine and tell me what it says for the version
[01:21] <KingSphinx> Does anyone here have an idea as to why *installing* Cantarell fonts caused GNOME Shell to display blocks instead of normal font?
[01:21] <brian6705> RichTUK, Fascinating!  That looks quite nice.  I'll be finding it as soon as I take the dogs out.  on a side note, where did you get your background img? It's gorgeous
[01:21] <led-bandit> Polah,  looks like you can choose either 1.2 or 1.3
[01:22] <tkesler> I would like to disable the screen lock after resume and i have tried everything and can't disable it...getting frustrated
[01:22] <bingopajama> hello all
[01:22] <led-bandit> but sudo apt-cache policy wine  will install 1.2.3
[01:22] <simpleblue> brb
[01:22] <Polah> led-bandit: Ah, well apt-get install wine1.3 then (:
[01:22] <bingopajama> just installed the new 11.10
[01:23] <brian6705> like I said.  I'm kinda dumb sometimes
[01:23] <Aleo> scarleo, why this Xchat don't save my nick and the server options, every time I connect have to put the nick
[01:23] <led-bandit> and i dont recommend the newest version of wine i had to lock in the previous version to get my apps to work
[01:23] <bingopajama> I am trying to open an ubuntu one account
[01:23] <Aleo> :)
[01:23] <RichTUK> brian6705: from google images, i googled "eagle nebula" i think
[01:23] <brian6705> RichTUK, Hmm, how simple.  Thanks for the advice
[01:24] <bingopajama> I am being prompted to enter a password for keyring 'default' to unlock
[01:24] <scarleo> Aleo: Don't know, it saves my nick and servers
[01:24] <AkiRa_> sudo apt-get install wine seems to be a foreign language to me--- I just installed ubiuntu like 10hrs ago and have roughly between work gotten 45minutes of recess- sry for questions but it seems yall are here for the heartache
[01:24] <Aleo> scarleo, yes usually do that, going to see what is
[01:24] <Aleo> brb
[01:24] <robin0800> tkesler, have you looked in screen
[01:24] <bingopajama> i keep trying the only passwords i know to use on ubuntu but thay are not working
[01:25] <bingopajama> is there a default password i am missing?
[01:25] <Polah> bingopajama: Your login password?
[01:25] <led-bandit> AkiRa_, you need to use a package manager to install wine
[01:25] <bingopajama> yeah
[01:25] <AkiRa_> there is a guest and admin act-
[01:25] <bingopajama> it is not working
[01:25] <AkiRa_> ok what is a package manager?
[01:25] <AkiRa_> where do i find it?
[01:25] <Polah> !apt | akiRa_
[01:26] <false> Quick easy question; I'm using 11.04 with gnome-shell. Once I upgrade it's going to delete that and go back to basic with unity, correct?
[01:26] <scarleo> AkiRa_: Use Software Center or Synaptic to install wine
[01:26] <bingopajama> It keeps telling me unlock password incorrect
[01:26] <tkesler> robin0800:  Yeah I unlocked everything, including gconf-editor.  googled the crap out of it and tried 'em all.  still locks on resume.
[01:26] <led-bandit> you can also use the gnome software center
[01:26] <led-bandit> ubuntu software center '
[01:26] <scarleo> AkiRa_: Software Center is in the launcher on the left side
[01:26] <Polah> AkiRa_: Or do sudo apt-get install wine1.2    or sudo apt-get install wine1.3    depending on what version you want
[01:26] <switch10> quit
[01:27] <bingopajama> I used the same password every day and i used it to get on to my desktop just a few mins ago
[01:27] <led-bandit> and when you say sudo apt-get install its from a terminal
[01:27] <AkiRa_> do i run all the ubuntu commands thru "search"?  my software center wont launch-  So I have a hard time trying to figure out where to type my commands- w/o a windows "dos command prompt" so to speak
[01:27] <bingopajama> hrm
[01:27] <robin0800> tkesler, may not help but try dconf from the software centre
[01:27] <scarleo> AkiRa_: Launch a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T
[01:27] <velociostrich> AkiRa: I don't use unity, but try to see if a run dialog opens when you hit alt-f2 and type in gnome-terminal
[01:27] <Polah> AkiRa_: No, through a terminal. Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal
[01:28] <zmbmartin> anyone know how to change nautilus keyboard shortcuts?
[01:28] <bingopajama> i got it to work by using a different password i created that has a symbol a number and a capital letter in it
[01:28] <velociostrich> AkiRa_: Also, they're not "ubuntu" commands so to speak but should be almost entirely the same in any distribution of Linux
[01:28] <wonderworld> yes, where did the settings for the keyboard shortcuts go?
[01:28] <bingopajama> but that is not the password i use to get on to my desktop
[01:28] <velociostrich> Anyone know if it's possible to edit the toolbar in nautilus in 11.10?
[01:29] <bingopajama> where can i find a list of my keyring passwords?
[01:29] <velociostrich> wonderworld: Have you tried the control center? (idk if they are there)
[01:29] <robin0800> wonderworld, in keyboard
[01:29] <AkiRa_> yea my bad on that- opensource is linux ubuntu is something new- i used to use redhet in the 90's but i had a bad car accident and i can't remember anything i did in the past- so i must relearn
[01:29] <jwm123TO> hello, can someone help me with my 11.10 upgrade?  I ran the upgrade but nautilus and dropbox did not survive.
[01:29] <RichTUK> brian6705: http://www.blirk.net/galaxy-wallpaper/3/1920x1080/
[01:29] <wonderworld> robin0800: i looked there, but there are many settings missing. i need to disable F10
[01:30] <velociostrich> AkiRa_: No problem, just part of the learning experience
[01:30] <wonderworld> F10 goes to the top menu by default, but i have another program i am using regualry that needs f10
[01:30] <velociostrich> AkiRa_: I know somebody like that, has a hard time spelling anything since an accident
[01:30] <AkiRa_> yea just mistakes- i know the mistake but it comes out as a mistake anyway
[01:31] <AkiRa_> people think im retarded- but im not... sometimes
[01:31] <tkesler> robin0800: ok...i'll try
[01:31] <false> Quick easy question; I'm using 11.04 with gnome-shell. Once I upgrade it's going to delete that and go back to basic with unity, correct?
[01:31] <velociostrich> AkiRa_: I have my retarded moments too
[01:31] <brian6705> RichTUK, Rockin, thanks!
[01:32] <velociostrich> false: I believe that gnome 3 shell is available in the official repository
[01:32] <johnjohn101> gnome 3 shell is in software center
[01:32] <velociostrich> false: It should change gnome shell to unity, but it shouldn't be a problem to get it back
[01:32] <false> velociostrich, thanks. ;)
[01:32] <jwm123TO> again, can anyone help me with dropbox not working after 11.10 upgrade?
[01:32] <velociostrich> false: np
[01:32] <false> Just wanted a headups what's going to happen before I start this upgrade.
[01:32] <KingSphinx> Speaking of GNOME Shell, for some reason, installing the Cantarell font made everything blocks instead of legible font.
[01:33] <Polah> johnjohn101: Software centre get's its package lists from enabled repositories. Synaptic and the Software Centre are just graphical frontends for apt, apt-get and aptitude are command line frontends
[01:33] <KingSphinx> At least, I *think* installing that font caused it...
[01:33] <AkiRa_> yea when you suffer brain damage there really is no telling what or when you get things back- I used to write code for a living now I can't even remember how to use software such as this- Funny thing really
[01:33] <velociostrich> Not to flame, but is there anyone here who *likes* the direction Ubuntu and Gnome devs are going away from the traditional desktop? I don't understand the need to simplify things like the appearance preferences dialog further, it just seems like wasted effort
[01:34] <AkiRa_> i hate the new design...
[01:34] <velociostrich> AkiRa_: That's sad to hear.
[01:34] <velociostrich> * referring to brain damage
[01:34] <johnjohn101> velocistrich. i believe the tablet market and touchscreen capability is influencing the gui direction
[01:34] <AkiRa_> i remember old functional keys were easier to manage
[01:34] <robin0800> wonderworld, set up a new short cut and try to assign f10 to it it should complain but let you reassign
[01:34] <KingSphinx> velociostrich: There's stuff like Trinity Desktop Environment, it's a fork of the classic KDE 3 desktop, with a ton of bugfixes and improvements.
[01:34] <wonderworld> robin0800: thanks, i'll try
[01:35] <sebsebseb> velociostrich: and at least two distros will stay on Gnome 2 for a long time
[01:35] <velociostrich> KingSphinx: That's good to hear. I personally have been using strictly FVWM since Ubuntu more or less dropped support for metacity and all that
[01:35] <AkiRa_> effort should be 100% functionality with any based software vs windows- to prove a point-  Just like the dev of firefox were the first in the world to create netscape navigator- and the first human online interface
[01:35]  * KingSphinx is waiting for the Trinity team to release Oneiric binaries
[01:36] <johnjohn101> someone will port gnome 2 shell to work with gnome 3 libs as well. I think there are projects for that
[01:36] <phiscibe> false: look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[01:37] <swashy> anyone else not able to halve windows or switch between desktop screens anymore?
[01:37] <swashy> what the fuck ubuntu team??
[01:37] <velociostrich> Basically I updated and see that half my icons are missing in FVWM, overlay-scrollbars are back, and a ton of new packages I don't need are installed. I suppose it makes it easier for less experienced users, but I find it a pain.
[01:37] <pangolin> !language | swashy
[01:37] <tkesler> robin0800: woo hoo!!
[01:37] <tkesler> dconf worked!
[01:37] <dark_eye> Irc = family friendly :fail:
[01:37] <Egbert9e9-> great
[01:37] <Egbert9e9-> I pressed space
[01:38] <yeats> swashy: try ctrl-alt and the arrow keys to change desktops
[01:38] <Egbert9e9-> a moment before that, a debconf popup appeared
[01:38] <Egbert9e9-> YAY FOR DEBUNTU
[01:38] <FloodBot1> Egbert9e9-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <velociostrich> dark_eye: This channel is at least usually pretty clean language wise
[01:38] <swashy> yeah it works about a third of the time yeats
[01:38] <AkiRa_> yes i fully agree- the entire point of opensource and linux was to create an environment where you virtually only needed what you wanted and now you get "bundled" ideals and wasted space so to speak
[01:38] <swashy> i'll start using clean language when the ubuntu team learns how to code and not break working features
[01:38] <AkiRa_> all for the lamen
[01:38] <djskidd> HELP
[01:38] <johnjohn101> swashy, stick to LTS then
[01:38] <djskidd> 2 problems:
[01:38] <swashy> why can't I halve my stupid screens
[01:38] <djskidd> 1. Audio is broken
[01:39] <swashy> its so fucking simple
[01:39] <swashy> why would you break it
[01:39] <swashy> WHY
[01:39] <djskidd> !language|swashy
[01:39] <velociostrich> djskidd: For future reference, please just keep your question on one line and don't flood
[01:39] <velociostrich> djskidd: Try opening alsamixer in a terminal and see if PCM is set to zero or muted
[01:39] <swashy> what was even updated in 11.10? this update is WORTHLESS.
[01:40] <djskidd> I have 2 problems: Audio is broken, and I don't know how to upgrade from 11.10 beta to 11.10 final
[01:40] <robin0800> tkesler, yes I think its meant to replace system configuration eventually
[01:40] <Ibis> swashy: Ubuntu is free. People spend time to make softwares better than before.
[01:40] <velociostrich> djskidd: For the first, try the fix I suggested, for the second I'm afraid I can't help (I don't know anything about that upgrade path)
[01:40] <tkesler> robin0800: the same setting was unchecked...weird
[01:40] <djskidd> I can't get into Terminal
[01:41] <swashy> Ibis: does better include breaking good features that worked before?
[01:41] <Polah> Can I dd the Ubuntu ISO to a USB hard drive?
[01:41] <swashy> can i un-upgrade back to 11.04?
[01:41] <vdrandom> hey there
[01:41] <velociostrich> djskidd: Try Ctrl+Alt+T
[01:41] <vdrandom> got problem installing grub2 to mbr on my laptop
[01:41] <KingSphinx> Can anyone help me? Software Center doesn't seem to want to actually install anything; when I click "Install", it just flickers and goes back to as if I hadn't even clicked Install. Normally, Software Center should ask for my password IIRC. Can anyone help me with that?
[01:41] <johnjohn101> swashy, gnome broke a lot when it went to gnome 3,  ubuntu really had no choice
[01:41] <Polah> swashy: Yes, reinstall 11.04. If you're just going to complain though, take it elsewhere.
[01:41] <vdrandom> it says 'install successful', but mbr is not changed
[01:42] <swashy> Polah: I hope Ubuntu fails from their horrible horrible decisions
[01:42] <sebsebseb> !downgrade | swashy
[01:42] <velociostrich> swashy: There were a number of small fixes to unity, gnome shell was brought into the repos, and gdm was replaced by lightdm for a few things
[01:42] <djskidd> velociostrich: it says cannot open mixer: No such file or diectory
[01:42] <velociostrich> swashy: But yes, many things are likely broken (as should be expected)
[01:42] <sebsebseb> velociostrich: he's gone
[01:42] <velociostrich> sebsebseb: Whoops, lol
[01:42] <jwm123TO> hello again.  Is there anyone who can help me deal with the failure of dropbox and nautilus to run after the upgrade to 11.10 ?
[01:42] <velociostrich> djskidd: The command is alsamixer
[01:42] <djskidd> I know. Nothing.
[01:42] <vdrandom> got problem installing grub2 to mbr on my laptop; I try grub-install, get 'successfull' message, but mbr is not changed
[01:43] <djskidd> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[01:43] <djskidd> djskidd@Ubuntu-Devon:~$ alsamixer
[01:43] <djskidd> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[01:43] <Ibis> swashy: This update is awesome. I can name plenty of things that changed. One of them is an upgraded Unity Desktop Environment. (Details? I can now drag and drop my favorite commonly used applications into the unity left-side tray. This tray is now affected by different color schemes/themes. I now use ice-cream white which is lovely with my Jardin Poler wallpaper).
[01:43] <velociostrich> djskidd: alsamixer prints that? that's not something I've ever encountered
[01:43] <aioe> I had installed ubuntu 11.04 and then installed the recommended nvidia driver and the screen goes white with weird distorted chars when it boots and I never get my desktop, vga=normal fixed it, how can I perminantly solve this issue without typing that each boot?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> Ibis: he's gone
[01:43] <djskidd> oh god.
[01:44] <Ibis> sebsebseb: Lol, I switched tabs to get the name of my wallpaper I was using. I didn't noticed. xD
[01:44] <velociostrich> djskidd: Don't worry just yet, try taking a look at the audio docs on the wiki
[01:44] <Ibis> I'm *
[01:44] <phiscibe> The Dash now has its own window controls, positioned at the top left-hand of the screen, which allow you to maximize the Dash, return it to “half screen” or close it
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Ibis: ok
[01:44] <velociostrich> djskidd: Worry when it's several days from now
[01:44] <yeats> !sound | djskidd
[01:44] <velociostrich> ;)
[01:45] <Ibis> What a fool. Not like you pay to use this software.
[01:45] <djskidd> Actually, let me try a reboot, and, like the addict I am, I'll be back in 5-10 minutes.
[01:45] <velociostrich> Ibis: That never ceases to amaze me how people can't appreciate the thousands upon thousands of man hours of work
[01:45] <sebsebseb> Ibis: well some people still much prefer Gnome 2 and such
[01:45] <velociostrich> djskidd: Do try
[01:45] <johnjohn101> what is the program that certifies hardware that works well with ubuntu?
[01:45] <sebsebseb> velociostrich: done by  Ubuntu developers, and the various upstream project developers as well
[01:46] <johnjohn101> sebsebseb: i appreciate how good this distro is..
[01:46] <aymara> what is the name of a menu like "cardapio" that is like gnome's  one ?
[01:46] <aymara> that goes in the panel ?
[01:46] <CantWinn> Hello peeps
[01:46] <velociostrich> sebsebseb: Y'know, I do like Mac OS X, and that is kinda what unity is going for, but it it just doesn't have the level of control that mac os x has and a number of just plain silly features (like moving the dock out of the way when you drag a window near it) that makes me abhor it
[01:47] <phiscibe> vect0rx: its the wimply culture (as in popeye), give me a hamburger today (free software) and ill gladly (never) pay you on  tuesday...the whole world has a hand out
[01:47] <velociostrich> aymara: Gimme a sec and I think I can find it
[01:47] <Ibis> sebsebseb: And they have a choice staying with LTS if they dislike new Ubuntu.  I love this change very much as this reminds me of mac's global menu. they did away with taskbars. This encourages cleaner desktop habits, and apps are better managed in this left-side unity tray thing.
[01:47] <aioe> I am guessing this is some kind of framebuffer issue and appending vga=normal to grub seems to have worked, so again, how do I change the grub command line perminantly?
[01:47] <aymara> velociostrich i had it in 11.04
[01:47] <velociostrich> aymara: caribou?
[01:47] <aymara> i ll look for caribou on google
[01:48] <velociostrich> aymara: I only say that because the package manager tries to install that if you remove unity-2d
[01:48] <Ibis> I'm sude they can still istall gnome2 if desperate.
[01:48] <velociostrich> aymara: It's in the package repo
[01:48] <robin0800> Aleo, you edit /etc/default/grub
[01:48] <velociostrich> aioe: Oooh, take a look at the grub wiki docs, it's rather different from the old menu.lst days and I can't remember
[01:49] <aioe> velociostrich: yeah thats how far I know the subject ;
[01:49] <jwm123TO> hello again.  Is there anyone who can help me deal with the failure of dropbox and nautilus to run after the upgrade to 11.10 ?
[01:49] <velociostrich> robin0800: Isn't that the file that gets overwritten automatically though?
[01:49] <ArNezT> how to upgrade gambas 2 to gambas 3 on ubuntu? is there any svn or upgrade link?
[01:49] <robin0800> velociostrich, no its not
[01:49] <velociostrich> robin0800: oh, then which one is that?
[01:50] <aioe> robin0800: so lets say I add something to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX do I need to run a command to apply that?
[01:50] <phiscibe> aioe: is it oneof these? "On Intel N10 Graphics, plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines. (830949)"
[01:50] <djskidd> :D
[01:50] <djskidd> Audio works!
[01:50] <SetiAmon> anyone know of a guide for oss on 11.10 specifically
[01:51] <velociostrich> djskidd: Good to hear
[01:51] <robin0800> velociostrich, can't remember but I know if you open it it tells you don't edit this file
[01:51] <velociostrich> djskidd: (unintentional pun)
[01:51] <DanaG> ARGH, supid ipw2200 seems less reliable than b43, in my experience.
[01:51] <aioe> phiscibe: uh no, its an old nvidia 5200fx card and I installed the recommended 173 driver or whatever.. it seems to either never make it to X or I cant tell what it says
[01:51] <velociostrich> robin0800: yeah
[01:51] <DanaG> I resume from suspend, then un-rfkill, and it never shows networks.
[01:51] <djskidd> velociostrich: Glad I'm not deaf
[01:51] <aioe> phiscibe: seems like when I do vga=normal and boot X is fine, with the nvidia driver working properly
[01:51] <djskidd> velociostrich: ...yet
[01:51] <velociostrich> djskidd: Keep your headphones down
[01:51] <aymara> velociostrich, the name is classic menu, stays in system try
[01:52] <djskidd> I'm going to put that as the topic on my channel, #djskidd
[01:52] <velociostrich> aymara: ooooh
[01:52] <Ibis> Darn it, having troubles installing deb files, now I'm forced to having to use the  -i switch with dpkg (in terminal) to install google chrome -.-
[01:52] <aioe> I had just installed 11.10 then reinstalled with 11.04 where the exact same driver worked fine with linux 3.0 but the lack of a working gnome made me go back to natty
[01:52] <jeroth> I just installed 11.10 where is the Connect to Server option?
[01:52] <aioe> I spent about an hour in gconf trying to get gnome to act right, only to realize it was totally ignoring my changes..heh
[01:53] <Jharr69_> Man, I hate to do this but I'm currently on my cellphone trying to trouble shoot this problem...
[01:53] <aioe> not to mention usually changes in gconf that do work take effect immediately.. I had to logout to get them to work at all what did work
[01:53] <Jharr69_> I shouldn't have attempted to update to oneiric
[01:53] <nd456> Can anyone help me to install Voodoo motion tracking software onto ubuntu 11.04?
[01:53] <jwm123TO> hello again.  Is there anyone who can help me deal with the failure of dropbox and nautilus to run after the upgrade to 11.10 ?
[01:53] <lwizardl> Okay so I just finished installing the  version and fully HATE the UI if I wanted to use either a tablet or a Mac I would have. How can i get the desktop environment back to a non-unity bloat
[01:53] <phiscibe> aioe they went back to a gtk window decorator and not the unity one, dunno if that matters
[01:54] <robin0800> Aleo, you need dconf these days
[01:54] <jeroth> lwizardl: You can't you have to re install 11.04
[01:54] <lwizardl> jeroth, okay so is Ubuntu going to keep this unity bs from no on ?
[01:54] <Jharr69_> I always thought if you log out you could :S
[01:54] <GridCube> lwizardl, pretty much
[01:54] <jeroth> lwizardl: Unfortunately, Yes.
[01:55] <nd456> it'll be good
[01:55] <nd456> you have to give it a while though
[01:55] <lwizardl> GridCube & jeroth ok then Ubuntu just lost a user for good
[01:55] <jeroth> lwizardl, I am trying to make the best of it.
[01:55] <velociostrich> Ibis: They've removed support for the front end to dpkg, but you can still install it
[01:55] <MoLE_> Where's the best place to ask a bug squad member to look at triaging a bug?
[01:55] <jeroth> lwizardl, I am sorry, I am trying not to join you. Good luck mate.
[01:55] <velociostrich> Ibis: I think the software center has assumed that role, but I don't use it
[01:55] <qin> lwizardl: Did you try gnome-shell?
[01:55] <lwizardl> I am going to switch to either plain Debain or another one
[01:55] <djskidd> jeroth: Launchpad works nice for me
[01:55] <Naugh> linux mint?
[01:55] <lwizardl> qin, yes even tried to install KDE instead
[01:55] <jwm123TO> hello again.  Is there anyone who can help me deal with the failure of dropbox and nautilus to run after the upgrade to 11.10 ? !!
[01:56] <qin> lwizardl: One moment...
[01:56] <velociostrich> nd456: That's a .deb, right?
[01:56] <DanaG> argh, had to unload and reload ipw2200.
[01:56] <phiscibe> jwm123TO: i dont know if this matters. but know that have a package for drop-naut intergration, look and see if it is installed    nautilus-dropbox
[01:56] <qin> lwizardl: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[01:56] <StevenW> Did Flash in Chrome quit working for anyone else after the 11.10 upgrade?
[01:56] <DanaG> Sure, Intel MODERN wifi may be good, but the older wifi?  I'd almost rather have Broadcom!
[01:56] <jwm123TO> phiscribe thanks!
[01:56] <johnjohn101> is there a way to put a folder in unity that is for root enabled?
[01:57] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/856882
[01:57] <Ibis> Naugh: That is /based/ upon Ubuntu. (So far, there are no Unity/gnome3-ish version of Linuxmint).
[01:57] <jeroth> Question, In Unity 11.10 where is the option to "Connect to Server"?
[01:57] <velociostrich> nd456...?
[01:57] <DanaG> what use is that?  Duplicate of a private bug?  Great.
[01:57] <DanaG> Useless.
[01:57] <nd456> yes
[01:57] <nd456> well
[01:57] <nd456> no
[01:57] <nd456> its a .tar.gz
[01:57] <Mixi1> If i upgrade to the new version will it delete my data on my laptop? my bookmarks too?
[01:57] <ALiENr0x> hi guys i removed in oneric Unity but a little pannel with file etc is still there how can i remove it? thx
[01:57] <xangua> !mint | Ibis Naugh
[01:57] <Ibis> nd456: Do not use the Enter key as a punctuation please. (not cool).
[01:58] <nd456> sorry.
[01:58] <velociostrich> nd456: I installed it recently, but idr exactly how. Is it just a collection of files in that archive?
[01:58] <Ibis> xangua: I was just explaining what Linuxmint is :S
[01:58] <Mixi1> Excuse me, I hate to be a bit nosy but could someone answer my question?
[01:58] <nd456> i think so
[01:58] <velociostrich> Mixi1: Certainly
[01:58] <Ibis> Mixi1: What question exactly?
[01:59] <lwizardl> qin, I will give that a try in a sec going to wait for this cd to finish burning
[01:59] <Mixi1> If I update to the new os will it delete my data?
[01:59] <velociostrich> Mixi1: And no, it won't. But you may want to back up just in case
[01:59] <xangua> Mixi1: no
[01:59] <Mixi1> Cause for some reason it will not read flash drives on natty narwhal anymore
[01:59] <Jharr69_> This is quiet the annoyance
[01:59] <Ibis> Mixi1: No. You'll just have an updated system.
[01:59] <yigal> Hello I'm using 11.04 and upon connecting my bt headset I'm unable to use sound preferences to switch to this device, as it doesn't show.  Anyone have any suggestions on getting this headset to work?  In earlier version of Ubuntu I could kill pulseaudio and manually start another pulseaudio process upon doin so
[01:59] <qin> lwizardl: Or use tmux, like normal person.
[01:59] <ALiENr0x> and why in Awn indicator applet dosnt work :(
[01:59] <Mixi1> ok thank you cuts.
[01:59] <Mixi1> guys*
[01:59] <yigal> the bt headset would show in sound preferences but not in 11.04
[01:59] <Jharr69_> I clicked restart to complete update and now I can't even login to my account anymore.
[02:00] <velociostrich> nd456: I just copied the contents of the .tar.gz to /usr/local/share/voodoo then made a symbolic link to /usr/local/bin. Can you do that or would you like me to give you commands?
[02:00] <jeroth> Can anyone tell me where in Unity is the Connect to Server option?
[02:00] <Jharr69_> am just stuck with a bunch of errors and I tried startx but still can't connect to internet.
[02:00] <yigal> Jharr69_: can you log into the safety
[02:00] <SetiAmon> yeah network update sucked.had to do fresh install and still trying to get some things to work
 im kinda a noob
[02:00] <yigal> Jharr69_: can you log into a terminal
[02:00] <SetiAmon> unity bad,gnome shell better.gnome 2 best
[02:00] <Jharr69_> yigal: When I log into saftey I try startx and then go into terminal
[02:00] <Jharr69_> I tryed apt-get update
[02:00] <yigal> Jharr69_: sudo apt-get install -f
[02:00] <ALiENr0x> guys somebody knows why in awn indicator applet doesnt work???
[02:00] <velociostrich> nd456: Well, the best thing you can do is read manual ("man") pages. You were able to extract the .tar.gz or no?
[02:00] <yigal> Jharr69_: try
[02:00] <Kozlov8> Hi.
[02:00] <Jharr69_> but all the sources aren't available via I can't even connect to my internet.
[02:01] <ALiENr0x> in oneric
[02:01] <AkiRa_> Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run "sudo dpkg-- config igure -a' to corret thee problem
 im working on it...
[02:01] <robin0800> jeroth, its in the file menu
[02:01] <Ibis> jeroth: Click open a folder (Pretty much any folder. Nautilus). Then select "File -> Connect to server".
[02:02] <jeroth> jeroth: ah, okay can I pin that option to the task bar?
[02:02] <aioe> so is there any hope for gnome users in the future or should we just use natty until the end of time? heh
[02:02] <Jharr69_> yigal: I can't connect to the internet what good would that do? All the sources would be unreachable.
[02:02] <velociostrich> nd456: You can do that with file-roller. You should be able to right-click on it and choose "Extract Here". Re-name the folder from "voodoo-x86-blah-blah-blah" to just "voodoo", and put it in your home folder. Then, open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T.
[02:03] <qin> aioe: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[02:03] <robin0800> Ibis, you don't have to open anything its in the default menu now
[02:03] <sebsebseb> !nounity | aioe
[02:03] <xangua> aioe: unity runs on top of gnome if that is what you ask
[02:03] <qin> sebsebseb: thx, thats neat.
[02:03] <Kozlov8> I have a question, I just tried to install Ubuntu by CD, and it succeeded. It asked me to restart and I did. Then Windows Disc Checker turned on and started to check my files any my computer restarted again. The Ubuntu disappeared and the partition is still taking up space.
[02:03] <jeroth> XFCE it is for me I guess.
[02:03] <aioe> also can someone familiarize me (debian user) with the ubuntu bts, cause from my brief preview of 11.10 today I have a mile long list of bugs against various gnome components
[02:03] <velociostrich> nd456: Type "sudo cp -r voodoo /usr/local/share; sudo ln -s /usr/local/share/voodoo/bin/voodoo /usr/local/bin/voodoo" (without the quotes)
[02:04] <Ibis> jeroth: As robin0800 pointed out. you don't have to open anything its in the default menu now.       (Like as if you're staring at your desktop).
[02:04] <aioe> xangua: yeah but I'm talking about people who know what a computer is and aren't mentally challenged and dont use unity
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Kozlov8: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | qin and there's this one
[02:04] <velociostrich> nd456: Then you can run voodoo by typing "voodoo" at the command line or in the run dialog (idk if it even still exists though) or you can create an application launcher
[02:04] <Kozlov8> @Jordan_U: I don't know, how do I checl?
[02:04] <Kozlov8> k
[02:04] <Jordan_U> !bug | aioe
[02:05] <AkiRa_> install ubuntu first- then allocate a partition and a file swapping space for ubuntu- then the grub will allow you to duel boot from ubuntu and windows
[02:05] <velociostrich> nd456: Is that working...?
[02:05] <chintan> during updation from terminal
[02:05] <chintan> i get some aggrement
[02:05] <chintan> but i cant click on ok
[02:05] <aioe> ubottu: hmm I may have to install 11.10 in a VM and play with it.. but I tried like hell to get gnome to work like normal and the main two things I couldnt replicate on this system were the desktop or panels setup the way they were cause nautilus blatently ignored the settings to show desktop icons in gconf, and gnome-panel allowed no config even in gconf for anything other than background.. you could not remove, add, move, resize or do any
[02:06] <chintan> what can i do ?
[02:06] <aioe> not even to mentionthe system menu had vanished
 YES, how can a create a desktop launcher?
[02:06] <yigal> ah I guess kill pulseaudio and restarting it works
[02:06] <velociostrich> nd456: You did verify that you can run voodoo by just typing "voodoo" at the command line first?
[02:06] <aioe> ah.. heh.. well just bewcause your a bot doesnt mean you're not intelligent
[02:06] <Ibis> aioe: Like me? I know what a computer is. Who doesn't? xD
 Yeah its running
[02:06] <Jharr69_> any idea yigal?
[02:07] <yigal> Jharr69_: what happens when you do this, it sounds as if your box has installed everything locally
[02:07] <velociostrich> nd456: Well, you can create what's called a ".desktop" file and put it in /usr/share/applications, but I don't know if unity will just know that it exists... Things were so much easier in the Gnome 2 days. Anyway, if you want to try, open up a text editor first.
[02:07] <yigal> Jharr69_: at least let us know what type of error you get when you issue that ocmmand
[02:07] <velociostrich> nd456: Like gedit or something
[02:07] <yigal> Jharr69_: that will let us lock down the issue
[02:07] <Jharr69_> Okay, I'll come back with a heap tonne of information :P
[02:07] <aioe> Ibis: that unity interface would be great for someone new.. its fairly intuitive.. but I've been an IT guy a long time, used old linux boxes, hpux, win3.1.. all that crap.. and I cant for the life of me get used to unity.. I dont want to search for my app, I know where it is, its right there in games or whatever
[02:08] <yigal> Jharr69_: :D
[02:08] <Ibis> !notunity > ibis
[02:08] <Jharr69_> It's hard to do this from a cellphone and a laptop :P
[02:08] <ALiENr0x> hi guys i removed in oneric Unity but a little pannel with file etc is still there how can i remove it? thx
[02:08] <timothy> hellio
 its open
[02:08] <yigal> Jharr69_: ya I've been in a similar place with different OS installs :)
[02:08] <velociostrich> nd456: Okay, gimme a sec
[02:08] <[1]chintan> hiii
[02:08] <timothy> openjdk crashes
[02:08] <ALiENr0x> hi guys i removed in oneric Unity but a top pannel with file etc is still there how can i remove it? thx
[02:08] <chintan> i cant click on <ok>
[02:09] <timothy> how do  you install jre
[02:09] <chintan> during installation
[02:09] <chintan> from terminal
[02:09] <yigal> ALiENr0x: screenshot?
[02:09] <chintan> any solution
[02:09] <aioe> chintan: apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[02:09] <chintan> ?
[02:09] <ALiENr0x> yigal: yeah ill do right now
[02:09] <taoist> okay, I'm trying to use chroot . If I run as a regular user I get this chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[02:09] <taoist> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt: Operation not permitted
[02:09] <robin0800> aioe, I bookmark usr/share/applications
[02:09] <aioe> chintan: sorry
[02:09] <taoist> if I sudo I get this sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[02:10] <taoist> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Kozlov8: From what you're explaining you almost certainly do have more than one internal drive, and Ubuntu's bootloader (grub) was installed to a different drive than the one your BIOS is booting from.
[02:10] <Ibis> aioe: I believe that's the only part that should be fixed.         Make Dash either be "start menu" or default Unity/Gnome3 thing.
[02:10] <aioe> that was for timothy..the font onhere makes it hard for me to read
[02:10] <chintan> i have some aggrement during installation then in bottom "<ok>"
[02:10] <velociostrich> nd456: Copy this http://paste.ubuntu.com/708321/ into the file, save it as "voodoo.desktop" in your home folder.
[02:10] <aioe> she got some almost cursive kind of font
[02:10] <Tanvir> Hello, can I use classic GNOME desktop in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:10] <chintan> but how can i click ok
[02:10] <chintan> anyone ?
[02:10] <phiscibe> chitan do the keyboard short cuts work, like tab to get focus enter to click
[02:10] <BlueProtoman> Can anyone help me configure my graphics drivers properly?  I've got a laptop with dual GPUs, that might be confusing Linux.  http://pastebin.com/mngDAYxh  I can get images and see the desktop environment just fine, but I can't get my nVidia drivers working.
[02:10] <Kozlov8> Jordan_U: Okay, how do I get Ubuntu going?
[02:10] <velociostrich> nd456: Then, try to double click on it in your home folder and see if it works (it should), and if it does, go back to the terminal and type "sudo cp voodoo.desktop /usr/share/applications"
[02:10] <BlueProtoman> That's my lspci.
[02:10] <timothy> how do u install jre?
[02:11] <velociostrich> chintan: Have you tried pressing "tab"? or space?
[02:11] <timothy> please help m
[02:11] <timothy> me
[02:11] <ALiENr0x> yigal: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/sreeni.png/ this panel :)
[02:11] <aioe> Ibis: yeah that was my primary gripe..I literally had to search for most everything because there was no browsing to say games no matter what you do, and yet I see a bunch of stuff I dont even have installed there and cant find stuff I do without searching
[02:11] <chintan> not tried..
[02:11] <ryankrizan> Does anyone know what would make my wifi be slow on 11.10, which it wasn't on 11.04?
[02:11] <aioe> Ibis: my other issue is I just dont really like the crazy mac style its got going on where maximized windows become the upper bar
[02:11] <velociostrich> timothy: I believe your options are the official JRE or OpenJDK. Try searching for the latter in the software installer thingy
[02:11] <AkiRa_> my brain ... is on fire...
[02:11] <ryankrizan> Wired connection is fast, wifi is really slow.
[02:12] <ALiENr0x> guys how can i remove this panel http://imageshack.us/f/442/sreeni.png/ ?? thx
[02:12] <Jordan_U> Kozlov8: Change the boot order in your BIOS.
[02:12] <Ibis> aioe: What use did you really ever had with the upper bar? Blank with nothing in it?
 what type of file?
[02:12] <timothy> openjdk crashes when i play minecraft on ubunut 11.10
[02:12] <timothy> i want to install jre its more powerful :O
[02:12] <yigal> ALiENr0x: is it just in Gnome?
[02:12] <Kozlov8> Aha. Let me try this, Jordan_U. Thanks.
[02:12] <velociostrich> nd456: Save it as a .desktop file
[02:12] <crooks306> Tanvir, there should be a fallback package in the repose
[02:12] <velociostrich> nd456: voodoo.desktop
[02:12] <ALiENr0x> yigal: yes
[02:13] <aioe> Ibis: but most of all its the simple fact that I was converting a neglected debian machine I installed for her ages ago to ubuntu to get more recent packages, and she and her kids will not know how to use it if its not the _same_ and I simply couldnt replicate their setup on 11.10 no matter how hard I tried
 oh i didn't know that was a extention
[02:13] <Ibis> aioe: I like how they did away like that. It reminds me of the Tabs on top stunt that google Pulled off, and got many other browsers following and doing the same.
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Kozlov8: You're welcome.
[02:13] <velociostrich> nd456: Just click the link, copy and paste the text into the file, save it, and run the command.
[02:13] <ALiENr0x> yigal: with unity it was for close windows etc
[02:13] <velociostrich> nd456: Yes, it is an odd extension I think
[02:13] <Tanvir> crooks306, so, I can go back to GNOME 2?
[02:13] <aioe> nautilus refused to show desktop icons even when told to in the gconf, the gnome-panel was horribly broken..
[02:13] <rypervenche> timothy: What is the output of the crash?
[02:13] <ALiENr0x> yigal: now is just on desktop...
 gimme a few
[02:13] <ALiENr0x> useless
[02:13] <rypervenche> timothy: And what version of openjdk-jre are you using?
[02:13] <velociostrich> nd456: Sure
[02:13] <crooks306> Tanvir, yes, then you can pick gnome-classic at the login screen
[02:13] <rypervenche> timothy: Type "java -version" please
[02:13] <aioe> Ibis: yeah well its a transition that you need to be willing to make not have forced down your throat with no working fallback
[02:14] <yigal> ALiENr0x: gnome-panel?
[02:14] <Tanvir> crooks306, okay, thanks! :)
[02:14] <aioe> Ibis: at least in natty both worked properly
[02:14] <ALiENr0x> yigal: no is not
[02:14] <yigal> ALiENr0x: oh what is it ?
[02:14] <ALiENr0x> i dunno :\
[02:14] <ALiENr0x> is there
[02:14] <ALiENr0x> XD
[02:14] <velociostrich> aioe, Ibis: I had the same exact gripe. With GNOME 2's menus, it's just Applications->Category->App, no waiting for some silly search then having to wade through massive 128x128 icons
[02:14] <yigal> ALiENr0x: the thing on the left hand side?
[02:14] <ALiENr0x> on the top
[02:15] <ALiENr0x> the thing
[02:15] <BlueProtoman> Can anyone help me configure my Ubuntu graphics drivers properly?  I've got a laptop with dual GPUs, that might be confusing Linux.  This is my lspci; http://pastebin.com/mngDAYxh  I can get images and see the desktop environment just fine, but I can't get my nVidia drivers working.
[02:15] <ALiENr0x> are like file modified
[02:15] <ALiENr0x> etc
[02:15] <Ibis> aioe: Understood. This alienated me when I first used it, and I then quickly got used to it. I like this even more because we nolonger has bloaty proccess named "metacity" running anymore. This shot up to like well over 400mb of memory. Insane!
[02:15] <ALiENr0x> help...
[02:15] <velociostrich> aioe, Ibis: The company I work for has a few older machines that I have LTS ubuntu on, and while they could run Gnome 2, there's no way they could handle that
[02:15] <yigal> ALiENr0x: if you go "killall -9 gnome-panel" what happens?
[02:15] <ALiENr0x> nothing cause is not a gnome pannel
[02:15] <alejandro__> Hi.
[02:15] <aioe> velociostrich: well I'd be embracing it as a wonderful innovation if it werent for the fact  gnome's regular interface is broken in at least nautilus and gnome-panel if not other places I didnt have time to explore because I had to get something that worked since this isn't a machine I use..
[02:15] <ALiENr0x> is like the window panel
[02:15] <ALiENr0x> with help bookmakers etc
[02:16] <yigal> ALiENr0x: you must have installed it at some point
[02:16] <alejandro__> Anyone knows this error? DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service exited with status 1
[02:16] <ALiENr0x> no i didnt :(
[02:16] <velociostrich> aioe: Yeah, I know what that's like
[02:16] <ALiENr0x> it was there with unity
[02:16] <velociostrich> Ibis: If you want to try probably the lightest window manager around, try FVWM
[02:16] <aioe> Ibis: oh I've always hated megashitty
[02:16] <ALiENr0x> and when i removed unity is still tehre
[02:16] <velociostrich> aioe: Lol, but watch the language
[02:16] <aioe> Ibis: I'm a hardcore sawfish user, personally.. I have loved that wm for ages
[02:16] <Ibis> aioe: Yea... TBH, I actually found Unity faster. I'm sure believe this is like an improved metacity.
[02:17] <yigal> ALiENr0x: open a terminal and try 'xprop | grep WM_CLASS(STRING)' and click on it
 I know this makes me sound really stupid but how do i run this as a command
[02:17] <velociostrich> Ibis: No, they actually wrote it from the ground up. The thing I don't get is that they can't decide on which backend to handle graphics
[02:17] <Ibis> velociostrich: I never used that before. I liked LXDE the most though.
[02:17] <yigal> ALiENr0x: tell us what it says
[02:17] <velociostrich> nd456: Nothing is silly, it's just learning. You don't run the .desktop file as a command, you can click on it and it should work.
[02:17] <ALiENr0x> xprop | grep WM_CLASS(STRING): comando non trovato
[02:17] <bodom> Hi there. Anybody knows where is "preferred applications" menu on 11.10?
[02:18] <yigal> ALiENr0x: killall -9 comando
[02:18] <aioe> velociostrich: I realize I speak a little tasteless sometimes but I also think using "colorful" language is not something people should agonize over the way they do in here. especially when they're quicker to notice that, then they are to solve issues.
[02:18] <ALiENr0x> command not found
[02:18] <ALiENr0x> xD
[02:18] <ALiENr0x> lol
[02:18] <velociostrich> Ibis: FVWM is easily the most customizable WM I've ever used, but it's a lot of work to configure to your liking (my configuration files add up to like 3000 lines of code)
[02:18] <ALiENr0x> comando non trovato  = command not found
[02:18] <aioe> if people in here solved problems like they spot a curse word, this place would be a whole lot better
[02:18] <velociostrich> aioe: True, but think of the children! (sarcasm)
[02:18] <yigal> ALiENr0x: try ps -A | egrep -i  'comando|trovato'
 isn't working and i always forget about having to enable allowing to execute as a command XD
[02:18] <dhruvasagar> Hi guys, I upgraded to 11.10, I am facing issues with the headphone jack, it works sometimes until I take the headphones out and try them back in.
[02:18] <ALiENr0x> yigal: -.-
[02:18] <lng> hi! how to switch to common Gnome desktop?
[02:19] <velociostrich> nd456: Oh, sorry, I forgot to mention that!
[02:19] <GI_Jack> gnome shell is starting to grow on me
[02:19] <alejandro__> Anyone recognizes this error? DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service exited with status 1
 I know that i just forget
[02:19] <velociostrich> nd456: Make sure you do that before copying it. Also, I still can't say if it'll just magically appear in Unity's search lens if you do copy it
[02:19] <GI_Jack> like a fungus, but I am done with unity. it doesn't work on a desktop
[02:19] <ALiENr0x> xprop | grep WM_CLASS(STRING)
[02:19] <aioe> first of all children know more foul stuff than adults, second they really have no business in a support chat room without adult permission and/or supervision, we're not their gaurdians.. this isn't like a school we're not en loco parentes
[02:19] <ALiENr0x> this command is not good
[02:19] <velociostrich> aioe: It's really just when it gets to the f-word being thrown around that it's a problem
[02:19] <crooks306> lng, http://theokok.posterous.com/how-to-go-back-to-classic-desktop-on-ubuntu-1
[02:20] <soreau> Is there a way to use wget or some other program to download with resume capabilities?
[02:20] <ALiENr0x> yigal: xprop | grep WM_CLASS(STRING) this command is not good
[02:20] <PunkUnity> I am almost done updaring to 11.04
[02:20] <Ibis> dhruvasagar: Look at "Sound Settings". After clicking on the audio/sound icon in the top right side of the screen. Then select primary audio card to use.
[02:20] <illmortal>  lng:  sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[02:20] <aioe> velociostrich: I'm with ol George Carlin on the 7 dirty words thing.. heh
[02:20] <PunkUnity> but the termial or w/e keeps having errors addign etc
[02:20] <phiscibe> google dbus var pid 11.10 there is fix a tall dbus lock might be the cuplrit alejandro__
[02:20] <velociostrich> aioe: True @ the kids knowing foul stuff -- the things I've had said to me in the 4th grade would make most sailors queasy
[02:20] <ALiENr0x> guys pls can somebody tell how to remove this top panel pls??? xprop | grep WM_CLASS(STRING)
[02:20] <yigal> ALiENr0x: open a terminal and try 'xprop | grep WM_CLASS(STRING)' and click on it
[02:20] <ALiENr0x> http://imageshack.us/f/442/sreeni.png/
[02:20] <PunkUnity> can i got the pastebin url and pastebin this to someone?
[02:20] <yigal> ALiENr0x: sorry
[02:20] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?  Ubuntu with dual GPUs?
[02:21] <GI_Jack> yes me
[02:21] <BlueProtoman> I really can't get these nVidia drivers working...
[02:21] <yigal> ALiENr0x: xprop | grep 'WM_CLASS(STRING)'
[02:21] <timothy> ok
[02:21] <GI_Jack> err, rather 512 cuda cores
[02:21] <SetiAmon> my wifi has been wonky with 11.10 like it stops working all of a sudden but doesn't disconnect
[02:21] <illmortal> i think top panels are permanent for now =X
[02:21] <lng> illmortal: I think it's installed
[02:21] <dhruvasagar> Ibis: where do I select primary audio card !? I can switch profiles in the Hardware section if that's what you mean, but nothing else seems to work either.
[02:21] <Jharr69> Hey I'm back
[02:21] <aioe> velociostrich: I have noticed a cleaning up of language in the open source community but it was flame wars and curse words since the beginning, grab yourself some kernel source and grep for that f word you mentioned
[02:21] <ALiENr0x> WM_CLASS(STRING) = "desktop_window", "Nautilus"
[02:21] <velociostrich> nd456: So did that work for you or no?
 isn't working... can i just create a executable?
[02:21] <GI_Jack> I want my gnome 2 interface back, and the fall back isn't gnome 2
[02:21] <crooks306> BlueProtoman, what are you having trouble with specifically?
[02:21] <timothy> java version 1.6.0_23 openJDK runtime envir
[02:22] <PunkUnity> ok nvm
[02:22] <aioe> velociostrich: those words better express the feeling of aggrivation that leads to the inability to properly express oneself better and it lends the kind of cues this kind of communication lack
[02:22] <yigal> ALiENr0x: killall nautilus
[02:22] <PunkUnity> cat copy it
[02:22] <illmortal> lng: at user login screen, click on the "gear" icon and chose, "GNOME"
[02:22] <Jharr69> yigal are you there?
[02:22] <timothy> t
[02:22] <PunkUnity> plus its doing other stuff now lol
[02:22] <yigal> Jharr69: hey
[02:22] <timothy> you got that?
[02:22] <Jharr69> DO you mind if I PM you?
[02:22] <velociostrich> nd456: Erm, you mean like a shell script? I suppose. You might be able to type commands in the search bar. I really don't know enough about Unity, maybe someone else in the channel can help with that
[02:22] <timothy> java version "1.6.0_23"
[02:22] <timothy> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11pre) (6b23~pre10-0ubuntu5)
[02:22] <timothy> OpenJDK Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode)
[02:22] <yigal> Jharr69: not at all, go for it
[02:22] <ALiENr0x> yigal: if i kill nautilus i go down.... do u kwow what nautilus is? XD
[02:22] <yigal> ALiENr0x: you won't go down you still have your window manager
[02:23] <yigal> ALiENr0x: it will most likely recreate itself anyways
[02:23] <timothy> ubuntu 11.10 is still buggy
 yeah thats exactly what i mean and change the icon to make it look nice
[02:23] <timothy> :(
[02:23] <lng> illmortal: ah, no. not installed. is it gnome 3?
[02:23] <timothy> i had over 10 crashes
[02:23] <velociostrich> aioe: lol @ the grep, and you are right, but I think more of the stodgy old geezers running many businesses. It wouldn't do for your boss to walk past your desk in IT to see the f-word all over the place when you're just trying to get help in an IRC channel...
[02:23] <ALiENr0x> yigal: killing nautilus all desktop icons was disapered
[02:23] <ALiENr0x> yigal: and panel too
[02:23] <velociostrich> nd456: Again, they've changed so much with Unity and all that that I can't really help
[02:23] <illmortal> lng: yes when you use apt-get install command it'll install latest GNOME
[02:24] <velociostrich> nd456: You can at least open a terminal and type voodoo.
 ok, thanks a bungh though.
[02:24] <Ibis> nd456: Right click inside a folder or desktop. (Blank area). Create document.      Then rename file.          After that. Open that file. Type some commands in it. Such as: echo "Hello there"
[02:24] <yigal> ALiENr0x: yes that should be expected
[02:24] <velociostrich> nd456: No problem. Try googling how to make a launcher in Unity
[02:24] <yigal> ALiENr0x: now just put nautilus in a terminal
[02:24] <ALiENr0x> yigal: i did
[02:24] <velociostrich> Ibis: Don't forget the shebang!
[02:24] <ALiENr0x> yigal: and panel is back
[02:24] <ALiENr0x> XD
[02:25] <velociostrich> Ibis: Y'know, #!/bin/sh or w/e
[02:25] <BlueProtoman> crooks306: My drivers for my nVidia hardware on my laptop refuse to work.  When I install them and run nvidia-configure or whatever, I am kicked to the shell.
[02:25] <Ibis> nd456: Save file. Right click on that new file. Set permission to "Executable".      Then when open terminal. Browse to that file (Usind the cd   CHANGE DIRECTORY command)  and finally, type: ./my-filename-here
[02:25] <yigal> ALiENr0x: well at least we know it's nautilus
[02:25] <ALiENr0x> yup
[02:25] <rypervenche> timothy: What are the crashes saying?
[02:25] <BlueProtoman> Any thoughts?
[02:25] <ALiENr0x> yigal: some nautilus config i think
[02:25] <rypervenche> timothy: It could have to do with your graphics card.
[02:25] <BlueProtoman> Oh, and I have to redo my xorg.conf if I try and run the drivers.
[02:26] <Ibis> velociostrich: Ah right, I don't really put shebangs in mines, but it is wise to do so, perhaps to make it double-clickable.
[02:26] <lng> illmortal: thanks
[02:26] <yigal> ALiENr0x: yes, must be
[02:26] <aioe> velociostrich: yeah I suppose...  personally I wont work for people who rather me nicely not do something than ignorantly get it done.. this lady from an IT company had me running around for the last month sending me offer letters me going places and wasting time and money just to change her mind before I make any money.. and I told her off.. said she lives in an imaginary world where people who are qualified and reliable magically appear t
[02:26] <Jordan_U> taoist Then you didn't mount the right partition to /mnt/.
[02:26] <velociostrich> nd456: The problem is that he would like a nice .desktop type launcher; he can run the program fine from the command line
[02:26] <crooks306> BlueProtoman, any error messages?
[02:27] <yigal> ALiENr0x: you know there is a classic Ubuntu setting you can use that won't load Unity or other stuff related to it?
[02:27] <velociostrich> aioe: Yeah, that won't let you get far (though I completely know what you're talking about)
[02:27] <ALiENr0x> ALiENr0x: ye but i need other staff
[02:27] <ALiENr0x> yigal: ye but i need other stuff
[02:27] <lng> how do I switch to see my boot screen? ctrl + alt + fn shows login prompt only
[02:28] <yigal> ALiENr0x: like?
[02:28] <ALiENr0x> all others
[02:28] <BlueProtoman> crooks306: I dunno, hang on.  Someone on another channel is telling me that it may not work.
[02:28] <yigal> ALiENr0x: please specify?  compiz?
[02:29] <aioe> oh well I guess I am gonna quit messing around in here and  wrap it up.. this machine is up to date, the kids should have a bunch of new games to play on ubuntu natty than they had on debian lenny
[02:29] <velociostrich> aioe: good stuff
[02:29] <dhruvasagar> Hi guys, audio is behaving rather absurdly in ubuntu 11.10, can someone please help !? When I plugin the headphone jack the speakers get muted, but when I remove the headphones it remains muted. I have tried the alsamixer and some config for the auto-muting fixes it.
[02:29] <dhruvasagar> But the headphones do not work properly
[02:29] <dhruvasagar> sometimes the line-in works, sometimes the headphonoes work
[02:30] <velociostrich> I gtg
[02:30] <Ibis> nd456: Hey, I want feedback. Lemme know if what I suggested works. It's pretty simple really. Just type in a list of any commands that you would've typed into a terminal.
[02:30] <yigal> dhruvasagar: I've heard audio is interesting in 11.10 I'm staying away just for that reason
[02:30] <lng> after system upgrade my network connection became very slow
[02:30] <SetiAmon> Dunno pulse never worked right so i installed oss is working fine except flashplayer now doesn't have sound.it isn't hooking
[02:30] <dhruvasagar> and either of them are not working properly, I hear only from the left side, the right side is commpletel muffled
[02:30] <Ibis> nd456: Into the script file of course!
[02:30] <aioe> I personally learned my lesson today and will be staying away from 11.10 probably until the next release or longer
[02:30] <DavidF> I just upgraded to 11.10, and when I attempt to log into my usual account, it shows some message faster than I can possibly read, and then bounces me back to the login screen.  I'm in a guest account right now, but how do I figure out what's screwed up so I can fix it?
[02:30] <dhruvasagar> yigal: yes they've tried with some new audio configuration where they will be saving the 'volume' separately for headphones & speakers. But apparently it has too many issues for now.
[02:31] <deusr> please, I'm having trouble connecting to wifi then upgraded from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10
[02:31] <Ibis> !notunity > aioe
[02:31] <SetiAmon> Frankly I think ubuntu has been going downhill since karmic
[02:31] <dhruvasagar> deusr: try enabling and disabling your wifi from the hardware switch
[02:31] <raevol> so i just formatted a usb drive
[02:31] <raevol> what group should i assign permissions to it so that users that can mount stuff can write to it?
[02:32] <dhruvasagar> SetiAmon: I don't agree, but it takes at least a few months for things to stabilize from my experience, I was just stupid to upgrade perhaps
[02:32] <SetiAmon> true
 sorry about the wait, thats what i usually do... Is there any way that i can bypass the "chose how you want it executed" box? (with like run in terminal or display)
[02:32] <durando> hey guys trying out 11.10 and i've lost my unity
[02:32] <SetiAmon> but for me sound hasn't worked since jaunty.OSS4 is the only thing i can use to get it to work right
[02:32] <DavidF> I was stupid to upgrade for sure.  Anyone have a clue why I can't even log in using my usual account?
[02:32] <durando> not that i really wanted it but real hard to run the computer without it
[02:33] <dhruvasagar> durando: you must have messed up your xorg.conf, perhaps you should try unity --reset and restart
[02:33] <Ibis> nd456: Sure. (I actually can not remember how to do that).
[02:33] <aioe> raevol: I think its the disk group, but the users and groups thingy in the config gui will have a checklist in the user's advanced properties and it explains the permissions in detail and lets you set them
[02:33] <DavidF> durando, losing unity sounds like a feature more than a bug.
[02:33] <uofm49426> how do i add radio0 to dev
[02:33] <aioe> wow this font is gonna make me go blind
 Lol i google it
[02:33] <dhruvasagar> DavidF: wht error message do you et ?
[02:33] <durando> lol DavidF well i would have to agree
[02:33] <aioe> thats women for ya... use fonts that look pretty but are hard to read
[02:33] <raevol> aioe: thanks
[02:33] <devish> hi i am installing java7 from tar.gz but not able to update alternatives
[02:33] <DavidF> dhruvasagar, I have no idea, because it goes by FAR too fast to read.
[02:33] <durando> but the gnome classic option sucks
[02:33] <durando> cause its not classic
[02:33] <dhruvasagar> DavidF: actually unity isn't that bad at all, it's slick & smooth
[02:33] <DavidF> I doubt I could even photograph it without special equipment.
[02:33] <durando> what ever happened to the classic desktop option
[02:34] <dhruvasagar> DavidF: have you tried the recovery console then ?
[02:34] <DavidF> Unity is for people who like b0rken MacOS</snark>
[02:34] <ejv> !notunity > ejv
[02:34] <Ibis> aioe: Hey HEY! Me lieks pweetie funtz0r
[02:34] <DavidF> dhruvasagar, that was the first thing I tried,
[02:34] <DavidF> but it did the same thing.
[02:34] <DavidF> I ended up having to login as a guest.
[02:34] <braxton> Hey, I'm getting this error when running cube server lister:
[02:34] <braxton> ./csl: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:34] <dhruvasagar> DavidF: that sounds bad, perhaps you should try an older configuration
[02:35] <DavidF> I just wish I had a clue what logs to check, etc.
[02:35] <durando> dhruvasagar: how do i reset unity?
[02:35] <braxton> Does anyone know how I can fix this? I don't know where to get those files.
[02:35] <aioe> Ibis: yeah well I think its nice looking too but when it comes to being able to speed read and type at the same time.. this just hurts my eyes with its script italiac look
[02:35] <DavidF> dhruvasagar, older configuration?  What do you mean by that?
[02:35] <dhruvasagar> durando: unity --reset
[02:35] <dhruvasagar> DavidF: an previous version of the linux kernel
[02:35] <aioe> which is why I haven't answered more questions while I'm sitting here because I am looking around the room to rest my eyes
[02:35] <dhruvasagar> DavidF: from the list in grub
[02:35] <DavidF> dhruvasagar, why do you think this would have anything to do with the kernel?
[02:36] <deusr> dhruvasagar, did not work
[02:36] <DavidF> I can log into the guest account....
[02:36] <durando> dhruvasagar: how do i get classic desktop that is truly classic desktop?
[02:36] <dhruvasagar> deusr: that command resets the xorg.conf & compiz settings, restart your computer and check
[02:36] <ejv> why not remove your user and start over
[02:36] <aioe> ah.. I can change the terminal to monospace.. much better.. heh..  she never uses the terminal anyhow..
[02:36] <Ibis> braxton: Software you're using to do this?
[02:36] <dhruvasagar> durando: when logging in you get options to select that. Ubuntu Classic is one of the options
[02:37] <DavidF> ejv, I thought this was Linux, not Windows.
[02:37] <braxton> Ibis: It's called Cube server lister. I can give you a link if you need it; it's on sourceforge.
[02:37] <ejv> DavidF: what does that even mean? leave your preconceptions at the door sir.
[02:37] <yigal> braxton: install libwxgtk2.8-0
[02:37] <durando> dhruvasagar: thats not ubuntu classic at all
[02:37] <durando> its still unitarded
[02:37] <dhruvasagar> durando: but after doing a unity --reset, I would recommend you try out unity again. if not unity at least try unity 2d
[02:37] <braxton> Thank you yigal!
[02:37] <DavidF> I mean I'd really much rather fix than replace.....
[02:37] <dhruvasagar> durando: well they moved to gnome 3, it is class in the sense that it uses gnome.
[02:37] <yigal> braxton: you may need to install the dev package also
[02:37] <braxton> yigal, Could you tell me what this is, please? I'd like to know so I'm not just installing random packages.
[02:37] <aioe> DavidF: mv your homedir, create a new one, then move stuff over little bit at a time.. so you leave out the old configs that dont work
[02:38] <mattek> The 32-bits version works with 4GB?
[02:38] <ejv> listen, you elected to install an unstable OS, don't be surprised when it doesn't function like an LTS...
[02:38] <durando> wow
[02:38] <durando> debian seems like a better distro day by day
[02:38] <aioe> DavidF: I heard several people in here today saying using old unity configs didnt allow them to login anymore
[02:38] <DavidF> aioe, not bad thinking....
[02:38] <aeon-ltd> durando: heh not a fan of unity eh?
[02:38] <DavidF> I'm the one who's not a fan of unity.
[02:38] <dhruvasagar> durando: for geeks maybe, but I think we all know what Ubuntu's real target is and I think they are doing quite a good job at that.
[02:38] <uabn93> hello. I'm lovin' 11.10, but which set of drivers should i choose for nvidia drivers? there are 6 different versions.
[02:39] <aioe> personally I'm a long time debian user and really new to ubuntu and this channel.. so my knowledge of some things is well.. not applicable
 Figured it out
[02:39] <Ibis> braxton: libwxgtk2.8-0-dev                          <---- "dev" and "lib" files. Remember them. Always go for "libs" first, if that fails, assume you'll need the "devs" as well.
[02:39] <dhruvasagar> DavidF: I don't think anyone is a fan of Unity yet
[02:39] <aioe> its weird enough having people tell me to /msg when in #debian we do not do that
[02:39] <durando> aeon-ltd: if i wanted a interface like unity i'd be running androdi
[02:39] <durando> or IOS
[02:39] <Ibis> nd456: That's sweet :>
 thanks for the help
[02:39] <durando> maybe i'll like unity after i play with it for a bit
[02:39] <braxton> yigal, It's saying it has the wrong ELFCLASS, ELFCLASS64. Does this mean that this program won't work on my operating system, or is there another libwxgtk package for x64?
[02:39] <durando> i hate change
[02:39] <bodom> Where is "system preferences" gone in new ubuntu?
[02:39] <Ibis> nd456: You're welcome. ^_^
[02:39] <dhruvasagar> durando: I think you're exaggerating a bit, I think unity is quite slick & fast compared to gnome
[02:39] <aeon-ltd> heh it's odd i hate gnome (and still do)
[02:40] <nvz> DavidF: na, you just hate having it forced on you.. change is part of life..
[02:40] <as2000> What is wrong with Unity? There are variants of Ubuntu that you can go to.
[02:40] <stricb9384> is it possible for me to install ubuntu on a flash drive? would it be different from a live cd?
[02:40] <durando> but i can't figure out how to customize the dash home screen
[02:40] <yigal> braxton: hmm, have you install 64 ubuntu?
[02:40] <durando> brb gotta reboot
[02:40] <nvz> bah.. completing the wrong people
[02:40] <sandra_> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[02:40] <Ibis> bodom: Click on the "Shut down" icon in the top left side of your screen. Then select "System Settings".
[02:40] <braxton> yigal, Yes. That is what I am currently usign.
[02:40] <nvz> sandra_: haha
[02:40] <yigal> braxton: which version of Ubuntu
[02:40] <aeon-ltd> stricb9384: depends how you install it, it can be like a cd or a hdd
[02:40] <caseymcg> sandra_:  haha
[02:40] <yigal> braxton: ?
[02:40] <sandra_> I trust your weekend is going well :-)
[02:40] <crooks306> stricb9384, search the forums.  should be tutorials
[02:40] <braxton> yigal, I just updated to Oneiric Ocelot last night.
[02:40] <robin0800> bodom, in gnome-tweak-tools
[02:41] <DavidF> durando, there's a window manager, I think possibly called nano, although I don't remember for sure, that doesn't even have movable windows.  And I have a friend who uses that.
[02:41] <mattek> The 32-bits version works with 4GB RAM?
[02:41] <stricb9384> crooks306, aeon-ltd, thanks
[02:41] <dhruvasagar> so can anyone help me with the audio issues ?
[02:41] <caseymcg> does anyone have info about DBUS bugs/issues ?
[02:41] <nvz> sandra_: yeah, the smalltalk isnt good in this high volume of a channel though.. they're bad enough with solving issues in here as it is.. heh
[02:41] <yigal> braxton: seems there is an issue with this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837006
[02:41] <stricb9384> one more thing, would i be able to encrypt this whole flash drive (pen drive) with ubuntu installed on it, and still be able to boot it?
[02:41] <aeon-ltd> DavidF: lol, xmonad? dwm? ratpoison? wmfs?
[02:41] <ejv> nano is a command line text editor last i heard
[02:41] <uofm49426> can i edit a character device
[02:41] <DavidF> ah, yeah.
[02:41] <DavidF> I mixed em.
[02:41] <crooks306> stricb9384, yes
[02:41] <uabn93> how do we know what the best version of drivers are when they appear on the drivers list?
[02:42] <Ibis> bodom: Alternatively. Click on "dash" in the Unity tray that appears on the right side of the screen (Top black icon), then type in the word "settings".
[02:42] <nvz> ejv: has been for a long time, yeah
[02:42] <mattek> The 32-bits version works with 4GB RAM?
[02:42] <phiscibe> caseymcg: look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859794  follow links
[02:42] <ejv> sarcasm :)
[02:42] <stricb9384> crooks306, i will try to use truecrypt
[02:42] <crooks306> stricb9384, just can't encrypt /boot
[02:42] <SetiAmon>  anyone know how to get sound working on flashplayer on youtube etc?
[02:42] <stricb9384> k thanks
[02:42] <aeon-ltd> mattek: yes with the pae kernel
[02:42] <sandra_> nvz, well I'm always up for a good sense humor and some tech talk :-)
[02:42] <crash1hd> Hey all I have freshly installed the new ubuntu on a new drive now I am trying to figure out (I had notes in my old ubuntu on another drive) where would they be located? notes as in the sticky note program
[02:42] <nvz> mattek: a 32bit linux kernel requires special option to support 4gb+ but yeah its doable.. if ubuntu's kernel does or not I'm not sure of
[02:42] <uabn93> help?
[02:43] <ejv> crash1hd: on the other drive? sudo fdisk -l, locate partition, mount it, voila
[02:43] <aeon-ltd> uabn93: ask don't ask to ask
[02:43] <Ibis> SetiAmon: Look at "Sound Settings". After clicking on the audio/sound icon in the top right side of the screen. Then select primary audio card to use.
[02:43] <nvz> sandra_: yeah me too usually.. just better in a less crowded channel
[02:43] <mattek> aeon-ltd nvz: Thank's.
[02:43] <uabn93> how do we know what the best version of drivers are when they appear on the drivers list?
[02:43] <crooks306> crash1hd, should be in a dot folder in your old home directory
[02:43] <crash1hd> ejv, yes I know its on the other drive but where on the other drive I am going to assume its inside /home/user/... something
[02:43] <bodom> Ibis: there is only few options there. I'm looking for options to disable virtual desktops and change default media player to vlc
[02:43] <crash1hd> crooks306, will have a look thanks :)
[02:43] <caseymcg> phiscibe: thanks, but its not a boot issue. I have a java app that is was segfaulting with a dbus error
[02:43] <SetiAmon> I mean with OSS pulseaudio never works
[02:44] <Ibis> SetiAmon: Click on "input" tab.  Choose a device for sound input. Also, be sure the volumes are up. (Check ALL tabs).
[02:44] <ejv> crash1hd: most likely under /home/<USER>/.gnome2/
[02:44] <durando> i knew i was angry at unity but i didn't mean to kill him to the point where if i boot into ubuntu or ubuntu 2d its a useless desktop
[02:44] <sandra_> PHLAK, is that you phlak_user ?
[02:44] <Shirakawasuna> Is there a way to configure the notifyOSD stuff? I'm using xubuntu, and in oneiric the notifications are 1) about 5-10 seconds long, 2) no longer have a close button, and 3) display in an annoyingly low location. If I could change even one of those things, it'd be great (mostly the time, though)
[02:44] <nvz> bodom: there is a preferred applications thing in gnome's control panel thingy for the media player, and disabiling virtual desktops is a thing of the window manager, also in the control center
[02:44] <ejv> crash1hd: .gconf might be a lead as well, check them both
[02:44] <uabn93> thanks for all the help, guys!
[02:44]  * hopstafarian likes oneiric under gnome-shell sofar...good job all
[02:44] <DavidF> The window manager I'm talking about is called ion.
[02:44] <nvz> bodom: its just a matter of setting workspaces to 1 rather than the default 4
[02:45] <phiscibe> caseymcg: ah i c, been alot of ppl upgrading and having the issue i gave, are  you using a java applet or java in a browswer
[02:45] <Shirakawasuna> I noticed that there are some old PPAs for replacing the notifyosd package as well as adding a configuration gui, but I want to know if there's something less hackish and old
[02:45] <caseymcg> phiscibe: it's a java program, called davmail
[02:45] <phiscibe> or a .jar or smething?
[02:46] <nvz> I have no clue how to tell people where crap is in ubuntu because there isn't just one standard interface.. people are using all kinds of different versions and unity, and gnome, and xfce.. heh.. in debian things are more consistent and I know what to tell people
[02:46] <bodom> nvz: I'm sorry: I can't find both
[02:46] <Rojikku> I have a quick question- I bought a fairly old Xeon two processor server, DDR2 ram, and it uses SCSI with hardware raid..(Smart Array 6i)... I want to use Ubuntu Server. Should I use the LTS or ubuntu 10.10? I couldn't find a link on the main diffrence. I know in 6 months LTS updates anyway. (My only hate on 10.10 is gnome3 irks me with dual monitors. But in a server I don't think that matters..)
[02:46] <Ibis> bodom: Look in "Removable media" in "System Settings". (I know, a decieving name).
[02:46] <nvz> bodom: what interface are you using?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> nvz: there used to be a standard interface, Gnome 2, that they started patching as well with some of their own changes, but yep  that's not in 11.10, and I know what you mean
[02:47] <nvz> bodom: in gnome its in System > Preferences
[02:47] <v2k> 'killling remaining processess.. failed' - where do i find what's not stopping?
[02:47] <Ibis> nvz: This is Gnome ;-)
[02:47] <Kozlov8> Jordan_U: I tried all the boot options, and they all lead to Windows 7.
[02:47] <Ibis> bodom: You're in Unity, right?
[02:48] <nvz> Ibis: yeah well in 11.10 there is no system menu even when using the gnome shell
[02:48] <durando> be careful with compiz config settings manager it can really mess up unity lol
[02:48] <hopstafarian> how can i get maverick like compiz into oneiric?
[02:48] <Rojikku> dun dun dun. is there a seprate IRC for servers? I didnt see one?
[02:48] <z3ro3x> I'm running Gnome 3 Shell in Ubuntu 11.10. Not quit a fan of Unity just yet.  Having to pull my hair out learning both which seem unfinished and or missing stuff.  Any idea where I can find the tool for managing partitions like I was able to in 11.04 and 10.10?
[02:48] <nvz> Ibis: 11.10 is badly broken.. and if it were debian it wouldnt have ever released
[02:48] <bodom> nvz: Yes, I'm in "system settings" window (gnome-control-center from terminal), but I don't have "window manager" or "preferred applications" icon (translated)
[02:48] <durando> so now that i have unity back on ICK, how can i customize "Dash Home"
[02:48] <Ibis> Rojikku: OMG, what are /YOU/ doing!? O_O
[02:48] <hopstafarian> durando, been there...a little too easy...
[02:48] <Rojikku> Ibis: What are YOU doing? xD What do you possibly mean?
[02:49] <Ibis> Rojikku: What you mean are channels. That's the most separate thing to a "single irc server".
[02:49] <ForgottenSoul> I am having a bit of a problem with my ubuntu needing help.
[02:49] <nvz> bodom: idk I am using 11.04 natty and gnome,and there is a system menu at the top by applications and places, and in there under preferences it has them
[02:49] <bodom> Ibis: that seems related to removable media :)
[02:49] <Rojikku> Ibis: Huh? Oh my bad xD i'm not paying attention ig uess
[02:49] <Rojikku> Ibis: Deep down inside i new that, i swear ><
[02:50] <nvz> bodom: if you have a workspace switcher applet on your gnome-panel you can right click that and go to properties and change your workspaces
[02:50] <Rojikku> Ibis: Side note, is there another CHANNEL for servers? or am i forced to wait for someone who knows the difference between versions in terms of servers here?
[02:50] <bodom> nvz: damn, no system menu or preferences here.
[02:50] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, gparted still installs, looks like
[02:50] <ForgottenSoul> Upgraded to ubuntu11.10 was running fine, when i went to play tuxracer and was done i exited and now my desktop and everything is way way oversized
[02:50] <nvz> bodom: are you on 11.10?
[02:50] <bodom> nvz: yes I am
[02:50] <ForgottenSoul> Hard to see or manage anything how do i change the resolution back to the default?
[02:51] <tapplek> how to switch to gnome on 11.10? both default and the other option "ubuntu 2d" go to unity
[02:51] <LizzyPad> Hello..
[02:51] <evildaemon> ForgottenSoul Use the display manager under system.
[02:51] <Ibis> Rojikku: Channels being chatrooms such as #ubuntu, #freenode        What separates this IRC "Network (freenode)" are multiple IRC Servers they host here that's connected to here. You & I probably not on the same server. (But same network. For more IRC related questions & infor, please visit #freenode ).
[02:51] <evildaemon> (Assuming Unity has one.)
[02:51] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, That's what I did.  I used gparted for the longest time but than started to get used to the other partition manager Ubuntu was making the default.  I wouldn't mind getting that back.
[02:51] <LizzyPad> Someone here speak spanish?
[02:51] <KingSphinx> Can anyone help me with why GNOME Shell displays blocks instead of font after I installed the Cantarell font?
[02:51] <ejv> !sp | LizzyPad
[02:51] <durando> tapplek: welcome to the new hell no gnome
[02:51] <crash1hd> Ugg me thinks I am going to have to boot the old drive again lol
[02:51] <Ibis> Rojikku: Click on #freenode      Or type in this IRC chat command.     /join #freenode
[02:51] <ejv> !es | LizzyPad
[02:51] <Rojikku> Ibis: GAH! NO! I mean ubuntu server edition! Dx
[02:51] <jhtran> hey all.   does oneiric desktop have Xen dom0 kernel support or is it only ubuntu server?
[02:51] <yitno> ada dari jakarta di sini?
[02:52] <nvz> bodom: heh, godspeed my friend.. I just reinstalled to downgrade. gnome is badly broken in there. though I can tell you that the workspaces as they are called are a function of the wm, and that preferred applications and all this can be found in gconf if nowhere else.. if gnome in 11.10 will even listen to the settings is a whole different story
[02:52] <LizzyPad> Hi ejv
[02:52] <evildaemon> tapplek Theres a gnome-shell option in 11.10
[02:52] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, what was the name of the manager that you liked?
[02:52] <ForgottenSoul> Thank you evildaemon i had tried that before guess i wasn't holding my mouth right
[02:52] <durando> how do i add crap to the side bar in unity
[02:52] <evildaemon> mouth?
[02:52] <Ibis> Rojikku: Visit #ubuntu-server then,
[02:52] <ForgottenSoul> why did resolution change when game was played?
[02:52] <durando> how do i change what is found on my "dash home"
[02:52] <Rojikku> Ibis: Thanks.
[02:53] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Give me a moment and I'll see if I can google it.
[02:53] <evildaemon> ForgottenSoul I don't know.
[02:53] <ForgottenSoul> "shrug" thanks
[02:53] <bodom> nvz: Mhhh... I've just realized this new smooth-big-icon thing is called unity and replaced gnome :D Maybe I'm gonna get rid of both and istall xfce :D
[02:53] <sandra_> does anyone here no of work around for the "nautilus Open in Terminal" bug ?
[02:53] <nvz> bodom: that is what people had been recommending in here, calling it the new gnome 2.0
[02:54] <Vlyn> Hey :-/
[02:54] <evildaemon> bodom You may want to look into mini.iso
[02:54] <Vlyn> Are you serious about Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity? O.o
[02:54] <evildaemon> If your going to install xfce you may as well go full custom.
[02:54] <johnjohn101> xfce is ok...  i ran xubuntu for 5  years
[02:54] <nvz> bodom: I spent about an hour with 11.10 long enough to find bugs in numerous gnome3 components and I ran away screaming
[02:54] <sandra_> nvz, what is being called the new gnome 2 ?
[02:54] <evildaemon> xfce
[02:54] <nvz> sandra_: xfce.. heh
[02:54] <jhtran> hey all.   does oneiric desktop have Xen dom0 kernel support or is it only ubuntu server?
[02:55] <coz_> sander_,   gnome 3
[02:55] <Vlyn> I just wanted to mostly switch to Ubuntu now. Then I saw Unity… bye Ubuntu x(
[02:55] <bodom> evildaemon: ty, but I don't intend to reinstall from iso
[02:55] <coz_> sander_,  xfce is only based on gtk  like gnome
[02:55] <Ibis> !botsnack
[02:55] <nvz> Vlyn: use ubuntu 11.04 natty and classic ubuntu..
[02:55] <coz_> sander_,  but the new gnome is definitly gnome3
[02:55] <Vlyn> Nah, trying Xubuntu now
[02:55] <nvz> or that
[02:55] <nvz> heh
[02:55] <hopstafarian> Vlyn, maverick wiht compiz works...as done gnome-shell with oneiric
[02:55] <jhtran> is there a  particular channel for ubuntu server?
[02:55] <jabagawee> i can't see anything when i alt-tab, but it works on 11.10
[02:55] <jabagawee> what changed in alt-tab behavior?
[02:56] <SetiAmon> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+question/169766 anyone else have this bug.
[02:56] <reisio> jhtran: probably #ubuntu-server; /msg alis list *ubuntu*serv*
[02:56] <bodom> nvz: yep, I'll give it a try. Ty!
[02:56] <sandra_> nvz, played around with the Xubuntu I really enjoyed it but had to give it up . For some reason it simply couldn't deal with something as simple as allowing sound to default to a USB headset.
[02:56] <nvz> nautilus and gnome-panel are horribly broken in 11.04 so anyone who says gnome without unity works in 11.10 is lying.. heh
[02:56] <Vlyn> sandra_: Ouch
[02:56] <jhtran> reisi, thansk.  do u know if oneiric desktop supports dom0?
[02:56]  * hopstafarian wonders how everyone feels about the constant release proposal..?
[02:57] <sandra_> Vlyn, Ouch is right , pity too I really liked Xubuntu
[02:57]  * evildaemon shrugs
[02:57] <KingSphinx> Can anyone help me get my font back? Installing Cantarell (GNOME's default) caused most of my interface fonts to turn to blocks instead of actualy font. Help?
[02:57] <KingSphinx> *actual
[02:57] <nvz> gnome panel is 100% unconfigurable and nautilus ignores most gconf settings.. its premature and not fit for use
[02:58] <durando> changing dash home anyone know how?
[02:58] <studentz> sandra after remove open terminal I reinstall it again.  I also keep the Desktop clean, without any file or folder. So far 5 hours and  I keep it alive.
[02:58] <nvz> works well enough to power unity, if you dont want to use that, dont use 11.10 or use something else like xfce
[02:58] <hopstafarian> nvz, agreed..so thought on a continuous release cycle?
[02:58] <Vlyn> I tried gnome with 11.10… it's awful and I'm still feeling terrible using it. The new options feel even more choked than windows…
[02:58] <robin0800> KingSphinx, use gnome-tweak-tool
[02:58] <reisio> jhtran: should; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[02:58] <jhtran> thanks
[02:58] <durando> i honestly thought that the developers realized what an epic fail unity was with 11.04....................guess i was wrong
[02:58] <nvz> hopstafarian: I think its kinda ridiculous.. but I've been a debian user for 12 years or more.. and I believe that stability is more important than version numbers
[02:58] <sandra_> nvz, is there anyway to run Gnome classic ie Natty in 11.10 ?
[02:59] <bodom> evildaemon: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will do the job
[02:59] <KingSphinx> I did, but that's not really my problem. The problem is that GNOME Shell itself won't display any fonts, not windows and whatnot (those are fine)
[02:59] <think> damn the unity lets all go to lxde
[02:59] <nvz> sandra_: yeah its doable, its just that its not working entirely.. gnome-panel is totally unconfigurable
[02:59] <evildaemon> I know.
[02:59] <v2k> on shutdown: "error: 'single' exited outside the expected code flow", google isnt of much help, how do i track this down?
[02:59] <nvz> sandra_: you can't add, move, configure applets, the main menu applet doesnt show system anymore which makes it hard to configure anything without gnome-control-center or unity
[02:59] <Vlyn> sandra_: I tried. It looks like gnome and feels like crap. And all the option windows are still in „Unity style“
[03:00] <evildaemon> Anyway, to help ME, could someone reccomend an easy way to test a program using apt from a non-debian based system?
[03:00] <hopstafarian> nvz, i think so too, and that's why i wonder what you think about removing the  pressure of deadlines, and making sure that the incentive is towards getting it right the first time?
[03:00] <nvz> sandra_: and thats only the kinds of things I noticed at a quick glance
[03:00] <robin0800> nvz, did you install gnome-panel?
[03:00] <KingSphinx> robin0800: The problem is that it's the shell itself that's got the font problem, not application windows (those are fine).
[03:00] <nvz> hopstafarian: I think thats the way to go.. but debian does that already.. debian and ubuntu are two differen beasts
[03:01] <evildaemon> I could never get Debian to detect my internet, even my ehernet.
[03:01] <Kozlov8> Jordan_U, are you still there?
[03:01] <hopstafarian> surely you're right...but a perpetual release cycle could bring them closer together?
[03:01] <sandra_> nvz, I came across another distro that to me offers some hope over unity it's called Linuxmint Debian also LM11.
[03:01] <KingSphinx> If need be, I made an 11.10 USB stick if I must reinstall, but I'd like to try to fix this instead of just resorting to reinstallation.
[03:01] <nvz> hopstafarian: I can't deny ubuntu is doing really nice things.. in fact I've started using it for people I convert from windows rather than debian.. but I now know that you cant just upgrade.. heh.. cause they release stuff that still has critical bugs
[03:01] <Vlyn> Maybe I'll try Linux Mint, hm.
[03:01] <evildaemon> Mint would get sued fast if it became popular.
[03:01] <reisio> evildaemon: ?
[03:01] <Kozlov8> I have a question.... I installed Ubuntu 11.10 via CD. After it finished it prompted me to restart. I did this. Then a Windows Disk Check came up and checked a lot of files. After that is restarted again and Ubuntu was no where to be found and a partition was taken for nothing?
[03:01] <evildaemon> Using the codecs.
[03:02] <reisio> there's nothing Mint has you can't have in Ubuntu, unless you are so lazy you won't configure anything
[03:02] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Never mind, I found it.  I was looking for Disk Utility.  It was moved to Accessories.  That's why I couldn't find it.
[03:02] <reisio> evildaemon: met a lot of non-profits that have been sued?
[03:02] <nvz> robin0800: how would it have been running if I didnt?
[03:02] <nvz> robin0800: unless you know something I dont
[03:02] <nvz> heh
[03:02] <evildaemon> A non-profit can't succeed in the marketplace.
[03:02] <nvz> which is entirely possible
[03:02] <Vlyn> Let's see how Xubuntu works out. I miss those 1000 options older Ubuntu versions had :-( 11.10 Appearance = Wallpaper now… and so on.
[03:02] <sandra_> evildaemon, why on earth would Linuxmint be sued ?
[03:03] <hopstafarian> nvz, that's why my work machine still runs on maverick...rather be behind the curve than unstable...
[03:03] <reisio> evildaemon: non-profits aren't usually attempting to succed... in the marketplace
[03:03] <joe__> does anyone know anything about bash scripting, i have a relatively simple question thats giving me problems
[03:03] <evildaemon> Their using the patented codecs.
[03:03] <reisio> joe__: ?
[03:03] <evildaemon> Among other things.
[03:03] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, cool
[03:03] <reisio> Kozlov8: how did you look for Ubuntu, exactly?
[03:03] <Kozlov8> reisio - it's on none of my hard drives
[03:03] <durando> alright time for a downgrade, don't know if any developers hang out here or even care but ubuntu 11.10 = epic fail, unity is a evil setup and maybe more importantly there are lotsa bugs
[03:03] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, My muscle memory is wanting to look in the old places for programs from using the classic gnome all this time.  Having to learn this new UI is giving me a headache. lol
[03:03] <reisio> Kozlov8: but how did you determine that
[03:04] <Kozlov8> I tried all 3 that were available
[03:04] <reisio> durando: you don't have to use Unity
[03:04] <Kozlov8> All led to W7, reisio
[03:04] <Ibis> evildaemon: Everyone doesn't live in United States...
[03:04] <johnjohn101> z3ro3x: i feel your pain
[03:04] <illmortal> Anyone know if installation process has changed with 11.10 if you want to install Windows 7 on a 2nd drive for dual booting?
[03:04] <durando> reisio: do tell
[03:04] <reisio> Kozlov8: tried? led?
[03:04] <evildaemon> Ibis true
[03:04] <Vlyn> reisio: But the rest of the menus are crap too…
[03:04] <reisio> Kozlov8: what commands did you use to determine
[03:04] <robin0800> nvz, No I've never installed it just gnome shell but the ubuntu bot sayes you have to to get classic panels
[03:04] <joe__> Exec=bash -c 'LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so'    i need a script to run this but i need to include the filename $1 within the quotes how do i do this
[03:04] <qrwteyrutiyoup> is there a run dialog in gnome shell, in 11.10? alt+f2 used to work o.O
[03:04] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i feel ya...but having to go through that process is vaild...keeps the mind agile..
[03:05] <Kozlov8> I can't use any commands...? reisio
[03:05] <reisio> durando: /msg ubottu !notunity
[03:05] <joe__> u have to reassign the key binding qrw
[03:05] <yigal> qrwteyrutiyoup: start, windows button
[03:05] <reisio> Kozlov8: I want to know how you determined Ubuntu is gone
[03:05] <User_007> Is there a way to change back Unity's menu button to the top of screen (as it was on narry) again?
[03:05] <evildaemon> Sort of like how VLC is in france and ships mp3 and co.
[03:05] <qrwteyrutiyoup> thanks, joe and yigal. I am gonna look into that.
[03:05] <evildaemon> (Actually the mp3 patent expires this year.)
[03:05] <reisio> now that nobody uses mp3 anymore :p
[03:05] <imperfect-> Anyone knwo why a fresh upgrade of 11.10 -- after a reboot complains that dbus is broken and when X starts just turns my monitors black?
[03:05] <evildaemon> You'd be surprised.
[03:06] <Vlyn> Ah crap, Ubuntu is going to hell x( I hope Xubuntu works better for me now.
[03:06] <yigal> joe__: use double quotes
[03:06] <Kozlov8> I went to my BIOS options and saw there were 3 boot options, and tried each one. None of them were Ubuntu reisio
[03:06] <joe__> that simple? lol
[03:06] <evildaemon> I personally use ogg when I can, but much of the music world is still on mp3.
[03:06] <reisio> imperfect-: what do you do when they go black?
[03:06] <yigal> joe__: should be, verify it works :)
[03:06] <reisio> Kozlov8: okay, GRUB?
[03:06] <evildaemon> (Vorbis, whatever.)
[03:06] <sandra_> I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu on the whole, but I like Ubuntu and Linuxmint as a project manager I think our company would benefit by running ubuntu or linuxmint over windows but I don't see how they could be sued.
[03:06] <crooks306> imperfect-, you using xinerama by any chance?
[03:06] <reisio> Kozlov8: that doesn't necessarily mean your Ubuntu install is gone, just not listed by the boot loader
[03:06] <imperfect-> crooks306: twinview
[03:06] <imperfect-> everything is broken
[03:06] <reisio> Kozlov8: Windows may have simply replaced the MBR
[03:06] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i am windows, so have the same complaint about having to learn mac...or trying to support mac converts..makes my head throb eventually
[03:06] <imperfect-> I had to bring up my ethernet by hand and run dhclient
[03:07] <Kozlov8> reisio: Okay, how can I fix it?
[03:07] <imperfect-> i dunno wtf happend
[03:07] <sandra_> Vlyn, so long has you don't have to use a USB headset I think you will really enjoy Xubuntu
[03:07] <crooks306> imperfect-, try turning that off and see if it works.  doesn't get along with compiz
[03:07] <reisio> Kozlov8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows should cover it
[03:07] <imperfect-> crooks306: It was working before reboot....
[03:07] <evildaemon> sandra_ The mint project ships with codecs that are patented in the US. If
[03:07] <imperfect-> I upgraded, reboot and used the system long enough to reboot again and all hell broke loose
[03:07] <Vlyn> sandra_: I got an USB headset and a 5.1 surround sound system… I hope it likes my headset -.-
[03:07] <crooks306> imperfect-, might have had compositing turned off
[03:07] <joe__> works! thanx
[03:07] <crooks306> imperfect-, try recovery mode and go back to single head
[03:07] <imperfect-> crooks306: negative, i was running top watching my zfs perforamnce and compiz was at the top of the list
[03:08] <Kozlov8> Thanks reisio.
[03:08] <yigal> joe__: awesome :)
[03:08] <evildaemon> Just to avoid the situation of Ubuntu where you grab them from the web. It's quite reckless IMO.
[03:08] <sandra_> Vlyn, if you like I can give you the USB work around I used on Xubuntu.
[03:08] <imperfect-> the upgrade went smooth
[03:08] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I prefer efficiency.  I understand the need to redo the UI.  The new ones Unity and Gnome Shell look really elegant and nice but I'm finding that it takes multiple steps to do things what took less steps in classic gnome.  Maybe I just go used to doing things a certain way.  It's going to take getting used to not having a minimize button.  I'm mildly OCD so having multiple programs layered on each other is like havi
[03:08] <z3ro3x> ng a itch I can't scratch. lol
[03:08] <imperfect-> I'd love to know what happened
[03:08] <reisio> evildaemon: they don't really have anything to lose
[03:08] <joe__> funny i actually thought... i should probably use double quotes
[03:08] <yigal> joe__: ya single quotes are for literal strings
[03:08] <crooks306> imperfect-, I had the same problem and it solved it for me.  worth trying anyway
[03:08] <imperfect-> programs can't talk to the dbus socket at the least
[03:08] <Vlyn> sandra_: It's okay, if USB doesn't work I can use them analog too (Not a pure USB headset, but sounds better with it)
[03:08] <yigal> joe__: double allows variables to be expanded
[03:09] <imperfect-> crooks306: right right, the bigger problem is no network interfaces etc
[03:09] <caseymcg> unity schema files?
[03:09] <caseymcg> where are the
[03:09] <joe__> im about 3 pages in to my bash book :P so havent hit that yet
[03:09] <User_007> I get upgraded from Natty amd64, but on Ubuntu (not 2D) everything is too much slow. I can't even play a 800x400 video without lots of lags.
[03:09] <yigal> joe__: :) no worries when you get to arrays you know you've gotten somewhere
[03:10] <joe__> lol i've done arrays in php ...  i no like :/
[03:10] <imperfect-> crooks306: I removed the twinview option from my X config -- still black screen
[03:10] <User_007> while on natty i had no problem playing 1280x720 videos. I think it must be the driver.. can you help me finding out?
[03:10] <reisio> User_007: know what your graphics card is?
[03:10] <crash1hd> ok so how do you restart unity from ctrl alt f1? since gdm is no longer
[03:10] <sandra_> Say could any of you please tell me if there is a way to incorporate the default scrollbars in Ubuntu into Firefox ?
[03:11] <yigal> joe__: they're useful but headache prone
[03:11] <Ibis> caseymcg: Does the file have a specific name?
[03:11] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i understand...and i don't like tiring either....but the unity of the gui and cli is nice....i'd rather type it in and have it run efficiently as poss. and without having to stop it , reset the settings, and start over...cli=where the magic happens..?
[03:11] <evildaemon> reisio I guess, but I'm not interested in projects that can't compete. I think windows is crap and needs to die. The Ubuntu project has corporate backing, greater momentum than of all the *nixes combined, and a mission that is relevant to my interests, and thus is my first thought on the desktop Linux front.
[03:11] <crooks306> imperfect-, just reading above where you came in and I see some others were having DBUS issues.
[03:11] <yigal> sandra_: you don't have the default one's in FF?
[03:11] <yigal> sandra_: what do you have instead?
[03:11] <User_007> reisio, ATI RS690
[03:11] <caseymcg> oh, I think I found it: /usr/share/gconf/schemas/compiz-unity-*
[03:11] <joe__> while im here does any one have an idea why when i open a game like nexuiz in gnomeshell everything goes on the fritz
[03:11] <reisio> evildaemon: so you don't use Mint, gj
[03:12] <sandra_> yigal, what I have for scrollbars under Firefox is their default scrollbar.
[03:12] <yigal> sandra_: there's this http://askubuntu.com/questions/35242/how-do-i-enable-overlay-scrollbars-in-firefox if that's what you're interested in
[03:12] <crooks306> imperfect-, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859794
[03:12] <yigal> sandra_: are you using 11.10?
[03:12] <sandra_> yigal, yes that's exactly what I want :-)
[03:12] <sebsebseb> joe__: have you got a propritary Nivdia driver or something like that installed? well what  kind of graphics card you got?
[03:12] <yigal> sandra_: unfortunately no solution
[03:12] <reisio> joe__: fullscreen?
[03:12] <KingSphinx> Does anyone here have an idea as to why my fonts in GNOME Shell (the shell itself) have seemingly disappeared? They're all blocks now...
[03:12] <Ibis> caseymcg: Might want to backup before editing those. xD
[03:12] <sandra_> yes I'm using 11.10
[03:12] <nvz> robin0800: I seen that and if I have time I will try again periodically with a vm and not a machine someone else uses.. but I grabbed a metapackage that seemed to pull in everything.. cause gnome-panel ran it just didnt work for most intents and purposes
[03:12] <imperfect-> it looks like maybe a permission issue
[03:13] <robin0800> z3ro3x, you can have all the buttons in gnome shell if you want
[03:13] <yigal> joe__: are you using compiz?
[03:13] <yigal> joe__: unity 3d?
[03:13] <joe__> i have an nvidia 9800m with the drivers installed and its set to open in fullscreen
[03:13] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Both are still knew so it's going to have some bugs to iron out and features to add.  Hopefully it all gets worked out.  It could use more settings in the System Settings.  It feels like there's a lot missing like the screen saver for one which I still haven't figured out.
[03:13] <joe__> i dont know if im using compiz im just using the newest gnome shell
[03:13] <moloch> hola
[03:13] <caseymcg> unity  Alt-` is killing me ..... sigh
[03:13] <moloch> alguno habla Castellano?
[03:13] <evildaemon> Anyway, I'm not interested in talking politics right now, I mainly wanted to know where the 11.10 mini.iso is.
[03:13] <reisio> moloch: #ubuntu-es
[03:13] <sandra_> yigal, the article you sent me say's it's supposed to be implemented under 11.10
[03:13] <yigal> sandra_: sorry that was a let donw link
[03:14] <yigal> sandra_: are you using 11.10?
[03:14] <nvz> hopstafarian: I don't believe in updates without careful consideration in any case.. if it ain't broke don't fix it.. thats why I love debian and variants.. the software allows you to check changelogs, bug reports..etc easily before changing anything.
[03:14] <moloch> tanks
[03:14] <sandra_> yigal, yes I am
[03:14] <sandra_> yigal,11.10
[03:14] <__machine> how do i configure a new service to start at boot and stop at shutdown etc? this is sickbeard, couchpotato, tvheadend etc… they come with an init script that i copied to /etc/init.d and that works manually but it doesnt start on boot
[03:14] <User_007> reisio, X.Org R300 Project - Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690 - OpenGL  2.1 Mesa 7.11 - shading language version string: 1.20  --- No OpenGL extensions.
[03:14] <joe__> it works fine if i logged out and go to classic gnome 3
[03:14] <caseymcg> __machine: create an upstart script in /etc/init
[03:15] <imperfect-> crooks306: I can't read the link easily, what's the just?
[03:15] <yigal> sandra_: it should be working, I've been a bit hesitant installing 11.10 as I hear there have been issues with sound
[03:15] <imperfect-> s/just/jist/
[03:15] <caseymcg> __machine: I think init.d is depreciated
[03:15] <yigal> sandra_: but it isn't I gather :)
[03:15] <eltigre> hey, after installing oneiric I can't seem to get the flash plugin installed....
[03:15] <hopstafarian> nvz, spoken like an experienced system administrator...sucks when stuff goes wrong and you have to scramble..
[03:15] <__machine> caseymcg:
[03:15] <sandra_> yigal, just my luck lol
[03:15] <eltigre> I installed it several times, always restarting the browsers, but still won't work
[03:15] <__machine> caseymcg: an upstart script?
[03:15] <arghx> __machine: I dunno about upstart, but you can put symlinks for them into /etc/rc2.d/ to start and /etc/rc6.d/ to stop them
[03:15] <nvz> hopstafarian: to be honest after spending some time in this channel, I am thinking though I wanted to I cannot offer ubuntu support on a regular basis.. they're just insane.
[03:15] <yigal> sandra_: go to appearance
[03:16] <yigal> sandra_: are you using a custom theme?
[03:16] <hopstafarian> nvz, been there, and honestly, was usually my fault...extra relaxing...good times
[03:16] <__machine> caseymcg: this is on 10.04.3 lts … is init.d deprecated in that?
[03:16] <caseymcg> __machine: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:16] <joe__> nvz....half of these people dont know how to google :/
[03:16] <caseymcg> __machine: oh ... not sure then
[03:16] <shule> hello everyone
[03:16] <reisio> hi shule
[03:16] <__machine> arghx: is there a helper tool to create the relevant rc?.d symlinks etc?
[03:17] <shule> hi reisio
[03:17] <shule> nice to join here
[03:17] <arghx> __machine: rcconf and update-rc.d mainly. check if you can install rcconf
[03:17] <nvz> hopstafarian: this distro is far too large to be on a 6mo release cycle.. thats just headaches I dont need.. cause people who dont know better click that upgrade that comes up or download the latest thing ubuntu.com is pushing.. and they just did a major release version upgrade of a de that is made up of over 500packages which is a huge chunk of its default system usage in 6mo and are pushing it like its stable.. and that to me is pure insan
[03:17] <__machine> arghx: looking at another service that was installed from a package (sabnzbd) it has symlinks in rc0.d, rc1.d and rc6.d
[03:17] <eltigre> I already read several pages about installing the flash plugin, and that worked the last few upgrades, but currently I am at a loss...
[03:17] <hopstafarian> nvz, a lot of insane people have made valid contributions, though...cause they don't give a thought to failure...they just jump off that cliff...cause, err, honey badger don't give a..
[03:17] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I'm also not quit sure what to make of the (not sure what to call it) thing at the bottom right of Gnome Shell where Removable Devices pops up when I move the mouse down there.  Transmission all puts a part of it self down there.  As well as some system notifications.  It feels a bit inconstant and unfinished.  It almost feels like a system tray thought not quit at the same time.
[03:17] <imperfect-> hrm
[03:18] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Ops, sorry for the typos.
[03:18] <celthunder> nvz: theres lots of large distro's that do updates sooner than 6 months that's not the problem...the problem is the people too lazy to read what's new and accepting without thinking 'hey i need feature xyz which is currently broken in this release let me go check the svn /git changelogs see if that ones working so i can at least use that '
[03:19] <reisio> that's only part of it
[03:19] <nvz> hopstafarian: people who are shrewed and educated on issues such as upgrades and know how to deal with bugs, reporting, resolving them..etc.. they can do that.. but the kinds of people that deploy ubuntu on desktops.. haha.. theyre just not ready to assume stuff they get when they hit that button is gonna work.. cause it simply cant..
[03:19] <User_007> reisio, no clue?
[03:19] <SetiAmon> back
[03:20] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i had the same issue....but i followed my own advice...and just press the linux button, type in what i want, whether it be application or location, and if it can't find that, it jumps to the internet...what could be easier..?
[03:20] <SetiAmon> so audio works perfectly except with flashplayer/browsers.anyone here with the same situation?bugs already on launchpad it seems
[03:20] <yigal> sandra_: if you hit the windows key in 11.10 does that bring up the search + shortcuts dialogue?
[03:20] <ublender> Has anyone here found a solution for the synchronization errors for tomboy notes in oneiric?
[03:20] <yigal> sandra_: if so type in appearance
[03:20] <reisio> User_007: make sure it's the right driver, check for kernel version incompatibilities
[03:20] <RingZer0> lol, i just want a desktop environment that works
[03:20] <Corgan1> Helllllo, room.
[03:20] <nvz> even microsoft who has billions takes a good two years to pump out their latest piece of crap that comes on 1 disk with limited utilities, and no real significant changes.. and you're talking about something 50 times that size with such a small fraction of that budget you can't even express it in a comprehensible way, and so far fewer developers
[03:20] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, The Linux button?
[03:21] <sandra_> yigal, I have I see OS background options
[03:21] <RingZer0> nvz: 50 times the size?
[03:21] <Corgan1> Anybody here running 11.10 with an ATI Radeon HD 6310?
[03:21] <illmortal> good luck Corgan1.
[03:21] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Are you referring to that obnoxious Windows key between Ctrl and Alt?
[03:21] <Corgan1> Well. I mean no one /is/. I mean trying.
[03:21] <martian> Is there a way to do away with the global menu feature in unity?
[03:21] <reisio> "better than Microsoft" is a pretty low bar
[03:21] <User_007> reisio, well, the card is the same listed on glxinfo
[03:21] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, surely i am
[03:21] <illmortal> Heard ATI got hit hard on that new upgrade.
[03:21] <RingZer0> Anyone having issues with nvidia 8xxxM series?
[03:21] <reisio> "as good as Debian" would be something nicer to shoot for :p
[03:21] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[03:21] <User_007> but what about kernel incompatibilities?
[03:22] <reisio> User_007: but is it the right driver
[03:22] <Myrtti> Move On To Ubuntu Support, Please.
[03:22] <reisio> User_007: and that, yes
[03:22] <nvz> RingZer0: uh yeah.. windows is on one disk, comes with notepad and paint and stuff like that.. ubuntu has over 30,000 packages, 4 or more complete desktop environments
[03:22] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I wish I can replace the symbol of that key with a penguin. lol
[03:22] <yigal> sandra_: the idea is that you want to make sure to revert back to the default theme
[03:22] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, in this context, might as well consider it the 'home' button on your iphone..z3
[03:22] <User_007> reisio, how i check if it's the right driver/
[03:22] <RingZer0> nvz: you sure those are Ubuntu packages, or POSTIX packages?
[03:23] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, you can...system 76 in boulder...send them a SASE, they send you some stickers...
[03:23] <nvz> RingZer0: you've just made it clear to me you don't know what you're talking about
[03:23] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I never owned iphone.  I have a blackberry that I'm about ready to throw at the wall. lol Next smart phone I get is going to be android.
[03:23] <jefimenko> i just upgraded my laptop from 11.04 to 11.10 and now i'm on unity 2d (it was 3d in 11.04)
[03:23] <jefimenko> how can i change it to unity 3d
[03:23] <RingZer0> nvz: poxis
[03:23] <RingZer0> nvz: wow, you have a chip on your shoulder huh?
[03:24] <reisio> User_007: what does sudo lspci | grep -i vga say
[03:24] <RingZer0> nvz: ur getting defensive cause some troll made you mad?
[03:24] <yigal> RingZer0: I want one also that's the next step in evolution
[03:24] <sandra_> yigal, Ambiance theme doesn't support the scrollbars for Firefox.
[03:24] <deww> so i've an ubuntu cd made, can i upgrade to 11.10 with it without booting from the disc? i tried that way and basically i wasn't allow to choose t he upgrade option.
[03:24] <yigal> sandra_: oh
[03:24] <pangolin> Please take the non support chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:24] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, took me a while to get there too...you're making the right choice....sorry about the RIM...you must be in the northeast or canada?
[03:24] <Corgan1> The ATI Radeon HD 6310 works fairly well with the open driver, as far as I can tell. It detects the displays. Supports the resolutions. Installing the ATI Driver there's no display detection, and upon removal borks Unity/Gnome-Shell/Unity 2D.
[03:24] <User_007> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] -----right
[03:24] <dhruvasagar> Ibis: hey, could you help me with bumblebee ?
[03:24] <Corgan1> But I can't disable my laptop display and use the external display only.
[03:24] <dhruvasagar> can someone help me with bumblebee ?
[03:24] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I refuse to ever own one just for the fact they disabled many of the what I call basic blue tooth features.  I don't know if it's changed in newer version but that was the deal breaker for me.
[03:25] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Austin Texas.
[03:25] <User_007> reisio, must it be a incompatibility between my card/driver and compiz itself?
[03:25] <RingZer0> I was just pointing out that all of the packages that you were mentioning were not built "for ubuntu" but source ... in face, most of the packages (over 50% == most), were made before ubuntu was even a thought
[03:25] <reisio> dhruvasagar: be more specific
[03:25] <RingZer0> z3ro3x: Plano Baby!
[03:25] <nvz> RingZer0: regaurdless if they are created elsewhere the job of a software distributor is to make things work together.. they allow this crap to be in thier package manager for any user to press one button and have, it should with some degree of quality work with any other piece they can just as easily install.. you cannot do that with this much software in 6months.. debian has been going about 2 years on release since I started with 2.2 pota
[03:25] <reisio> User_007: one possibility
[03:25] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, ypu
[03:25] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, ypu?
[03:25] <yigal> sandra_: I think they should in 11.10 http://iloveubuntu.net/ayatana-overlay-scrollbars-extends-its-support-ubuntu-1110-terminal-eye-gnome-fbreader-banshee-etc
[03:26] <nvz> but the thing is, their timeframe isn't a timeframe, its a When Its Ready schedule.. they have to sqaush RC bugs or remove things
[03:26] <mdkendall> Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get some help with an 11.10 system I'm trying to setup for my grandparents.
[03:26] <dhruvasagar> I installed bumblebee from the stable ppa, I tried running 'optirun nvidia-settings -c:1' to check settings, but it complains that the x server hasn't started and fails
[03:26] <nvz> its called sacrificing for stability..
[03:26] <paul_> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[03:26] <sebsebseb> !ask | mdkendall
[03:26] <User_007> reisio, may i try reporting a bug for compiz so?
[03:26] <Myrtti> nvz: did you have a Ubuntu support question?
[03:26] <pangolin> nvz: stop with the off topic chatter please
[03:26] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, youre talking about the iphone...cause android is cool...my brother is in austin...sorry about your hot, crappy summer...and the fires..
[03:26] <reisio> User_007: if you find one :p
[03:26] <mdkendall> Thanks :)
[03:26] <z3ro3x> RingZer0, I've been in here for abou 10 years.  Still hate the wather and the traffic.  I'm about ready to move back to the north east.  I lived west of Philly for about years.  Next move will be in Manchester NH.
[03:26] <RingZer0> nvz: the reaosn why linux is so successful and not just abandoned is because of all of the GNU / GPL ... I guarentee you there are more open source developers than that at microsoft
[03:26] <henchman24> wather
[03:26] <sandra_> yigal, I read that article but no support for Firefox in that article.
[03:26] <dhruvasagar> do I have to enable power management in bumblebee.conf ? I thought that was discouraged
[03:26] <henchman24> weather*
[03:27]  * nvz waves
[03:27] <dhruvasagar> 10 [   1938.10] insmod /lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko
[03:27] <dhruvasagar> 11 [   1938.10]   FATAL: Error inserting nvidia_current (/lib/modules/3.0.0-12-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko): No such device
[03:27] <RingZer0> nvz: it is difficult to standardize in a company (like microsoft), and even more difficult to standardize internet wide.
[03:27] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, It just started raining again after not raining all summer.  Climate here sucks. lol
[03:27] <Vlyn> Google: „Ubuntu Unity Sucks“ 425.000 hits. Atleast I'm not alone…
[03:27] <User_007> reisio, it's hard do determine where is the bug itself
[03:27] <reisio> mmm
[03:27] <llama-li1ux> reatest Ubuntu desktop ever? http://forum.linuxmint.com/download/file.php?id=8639 I just finished it, took me three days to find the perfect window manager and decide which theme
[03:27] <dhruvasagar> anybody ? anything ?
[03:27] <pangolin> !ot | EVERYBODY
[03:27] <Myrtti> moving on
[03:27] <llama-li1ux> I wanted something retro, something with an 80s monochrome style
[03:27] <reisio> Vlyn: I only get 7k, but :p
[03:27] <RingZer0> z3ro3x: yeah, i have only lived in TX for last 2 years.  but army has given me the privilege of seeing most of the states, and many countries as well.
[03:27] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, yeah that's what brother said...and they say the science 'isn't in' on global warming?
[03:27] <yigal> sandra_: ya they just mention that it's supported but don't actually show the evidence :)
[03:27] <kesten__> need help building blender: error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot open shared object
[03:28] <Vlyn> reisio: I get 425.000 :-)
[03:28]  * RingZer0 thinks Vlyn is troling
[03:28] <z3ro3x> RingZer0, Jesus!  Should have proof read that. lol
[03:28] <Myrtti> llama-li1ux: Ubuntu support question?
[03:28] <Vlyn> But it's google.at
[03:28] <mdkendall> Setting up a computer for my grandparents. My grandfather has early alzheimers. I need to make it as passwordless as possible. I've got passwordless login from lightdm, passwordless sudo via /etc/sudoers, gksduo is set to use sudo, but I'm still getting challenged when doing things like installing software.
[03:28] <kesten__> but libiconv.so.2 is in my /usr/local/lib
[03:28] <purpleyuan> Hey all. When I upgraded, it said that there were some errors and that the system may be unusable. However, I restarted my computer twice (the first time the unity environ didn't start up so I couldn't do anything) and everything seems to be fine. How should I troubleshoot this so I can tell if anything's wrong?
[03:28] <reisio> Vlyn: yeah but you're doing it wrong; http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ubuntu%22%20%22unity%20sucks%22
[03:28] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, finally got below 80 there...?
[03:28] <llama-li1ux> Noo support questions, is there an ubuntu chat Nyrtti
[03:28] <llama-li1ux> ?
[03:28] <RingZer0> z3ro3x: i could not spell to save my life.  but math, science and code are my friend
[03:28] <Vlyn> Okay :P but still 7000 too much
[03:28] <sebsebseb> mdkendall: yep sudo is there for security
[03:28] <RingZer0> z3ro3x: even though words are not :D
[03:28] <sebsebseb> mdkendall: meant to use a password with that
[03:29] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, I'd tell you the temp now but I don't have my weather thingy any more that I had in classic gnome.
[03:29] <reisio> llama-li1ux: -offtopic
[03:29] <mdkendall> I understand the security ramifications. Been running linux forever and am a developer. Doesn't change the fact that my grandpa won't remember passowrds. How is it any more secure to write it on a sticky on the monitor?
[03:29] <martian> Is there a way to do away with the unity launcher?
[03:29] <mdkendall> I could've sworn modifying /etc/sudoers used to work.
[03:29] <yigal> sandra_: ya I just read this one, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/overlay-scrollbars-ubuntu-ppa/ doesn't work for FF and comments are only two days old
[03:30] <sebsebseb> martian: of cousre :)
[03:30] <sebsebseb> !nounity | martian
[03:30] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, sudo apt-get install my-weather-indicator?
[03:30] <reisio> mdkendall: just run X as root
[03:30] <martian> sebsebseb: amazing, so the launcher is hard coded into unity?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> mdkendall: you  could set up  a remote connection I guess, and be responsibe  of his security updates yourself, if your not there I guess even, but  either way sudo should have a password really, but I guess there is a way to use without as well
[03:30] <RingZer0> I'm really bummed out, I was hoping ubuntu would work for me and my nvidia... 32 bit gave me a kernal panic booting from CD, the 64 bit on a different laptop seemed to work, but everything that displays in X just creates a black shadow and nothing is clickable... I went through ctrl+alt+F1 (tty) to wget nvidia drivers, but you need to run via desktop env or it wont work, talk about chicken vs egg.
[03:30] <dhruvasagar> how do I start the bumblebee x server ?
[03:31] <sebsebseb> martian: yep Unity isn't that customisable as far as I know
[03:31] <mdkendall> It's just weird because I can get passwordless sudo on the command line but not in the GUI?
[03:31] <martian> sebsebseb: who the hell thought up this stuff, and why do they hate linux?
[03:31] <mdkendall> How is the command line *less* dangerous?!
[03:32] <RingZer0> mdkendall: nopefully non-root command line :)
[03:32] <sandra_> yigal, I read that one 2 thank you so much for your help :-)
[03:32] <arghx> mdkendall: if you have passwordless sudo in the console, you set it up this way
[03:32] <sebsebseb> martian: Unity is thought up by  Mark Shuttleworth the Ubuntu Founder and the Canonical Design team, people like that, but you don't have to use Unity as the bot just told you
[03:32] <RingZer0> any thoughts on how I can get my desktop env working?  just really really slow, can't start anything, and freezes on each click.
[03:32] <reisio> mdkendall: because gksu isn't sudo
[03:32] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, Just installed it.  It's running on the bottom right in what feels like a system tray which could use more work.  Than again I am in Gnome Shell I may switch back over to Unity and try that again.  Not being able to move the icons in my favorites on the what ever you call it on the left was annoying.
[03:32] <celthunder> mdkendall: because you type your commands some random script isn'r running them so you know whats going on in a terminal?
[03:32] <mdkendall> But I have passwordless gksu/gksudo.
[03:32] <arghx> RingZer0: disable optimus, at least for installing. then look into vgaswitcheroo
[03:33] <reisio> dhruvasagar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_N53#nVidia_Optimus_video_card_switching ?
[03:33] <RingZer0> arghx: thanks for responding.  install went great.  but when it boots, the desktop environment just freezes when clicking on anythying
[03:33] <jefimenko> my laptop reverted to unity 2D after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10. does anyone know how to turn 3d on?
[03:33] <mdkendall> What is launching/controlling the "Authenticate" dialog? Is this some sort of gnome keyring thing?
[03:33] <martian> sebsebseb: as we discussed earlier, it's clear that the alternative to unity is akin to a big middle-finger to anyone who doesn't like apple-style ui's
[03:33] <RingZer0> arghx: even if i could get a keyboard command to start a terminal window inside the desktop environment, I could run the driver package for nvidia
[03:33] <arghx> jefimenko: depends on your videocard
[03:34] <celthunder> mdkendall: likely your gui has some osrt of password keyring thing....if it didn't you wouldn't get that crap
[03:34] <reisio> martian: so?
[03:34] <purpleyuan> !unity
[03:34] <sebsebseb> martian: Gnome SHell, Gnome  3 fall back mode,  KDE/Kubuntu,  XFCE/Xubuntu, LXDE/Lubuntu, and so on
[03:34] <arghx> RingZer0: ctrl+alt+f1 and install it there.
[03:34] <purpleyuan> !notunity
[03:34] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, personally, i think i'm gonna pursue gnome-shell...seems a little more promising, but i've certainly been wrong before,...as a matter of fact, that's a much longer list...
[03:34] <sebsebseb> martian: plus many differnet distros if you really want even
[03:34] <phiscibe> i remember once upon a time you could sudo anything, nowdays with all the freaking config files if u dont gksudo or kdesudo root coops your config files and you get  mystery erros galore
[03:34] <mdkendall> celthunder: any idea how to turn that off?
[03:35] <celthunder> mdkendall: remove it?  idk lol i use xmonad which doens't come with that crap thank god
[03:35] <mdkendall> Hah :)
[03:35] <reisio> mdkendall: the usual way is to opt out of using a password when you first run a program
[03:35] <reisio> I'm sure you can disable it globally, too, though
[03:35] <hopstafarian> z3ro3x, i gotta call it a night, but nice meeting ya...
[03:35] <RingZer0> arghx: thanks ... how do i restart X after install?
[03:36] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, It seems like the gnome developers are hell bent on keeping everything on the top panel (if it's still called that) clean and free from any knew icons from other programs.  And programs that would normally stay running in the system tray is being put in the hidden panel on the bottom right.
[03:36] <mdkendall> reisio: is it likely keyring? been googling/poking at this thing for a few hours now.
[03:36] <dhruvasagar> reisio: I have a dell laptop.
[03:36] <arghx> RingZer0: not totally sure since gdm uses upstart :(
[03:36] <reisio> dhruvasagar: gj
[03:36] <z3ro3x> hopstafarian, You too.  Good night.
[03:36] <dhruvasagar> reisio: I think I just had to restart, I think it is working now
[03:36] <reisio> mdkendall: keyring, wallet, etc.
[03:36] <reisio> dhruvasagar: gj
[03:36] <dhruvasagar> reisio: but I am not sure what I need
[03:37] <dhruvasagar> reisio: what I need to do for ensuring it switches appropriately.
[03:37] <reisio> dhruvasagar: for what
[03:37] <arghx> RingZer0: service gdm stop  I guess
[03:37] <ectabyte> I just upgraded to 11.10 and I'm using the fglrx 11.9 drivers with gnome shell. For some reason I can't set amdcccle to use multi-monitors. When I reboot and login, the dual-monitor settings are there but when I actually log into gnome shell its just cloned display and the settings reset..
[03:37] <sap> hi i have a problem with my video playback video get freeze 4 5-6 seconds and audio goes on
[03:37] <RingZer0> arghx: thats cool, worst case snario i can just do : shutdown -r now
[03:37] <reisio> sap: what's this video's resolution?
[03:37] <ectabyte> What if I did like chattr to xorg.conf so nothgin can change it?
[03:37] <RingZer0> im a big fan of ubuntu server edition, not yet much of one for home use
[03:37] <semitones>  /topic
[03:38] <reisio> RingZer0: so backwards :p
[03:38] <arghx> ectabyte: why would anything change xorg.conf? maybe try using xorg.conf.d/ ?
[03:38] <tanath> i'm trying to install a package and it won't 'cause it says a conflicting package is installed. so i try to remove it, but it doesn't seem to be installed. what gives?
[03:38] <jefimenko> arghx: it's an nvidia card
[03:38] <dhruvasagar> coming back, facing audio problems in 11.10, I think the 'auto muting' feature is not working properly, my speakers get muted and never unmute. When I put my headphone in they do turn to mute, but never turn back to unmute, I have to go into alsamixer to unmute them
[03:38] <reisio> tanath: specifics please
[03:38] <KM0201> RingZer0: depends on what you need it for.. i use ubuntu server for my home file/media server, an FTP server, and a torrent server, and it's flawless
[03:38] <phiscibe> jefimenko: Remote Desktop does not work with the -fglrx video driver, nor with the legacy nvidia drivers. You can establish a connection but the remote screen does not update. As a workaround use Unity2d, or switch to the free drivers or nvidia-current. (772873)
[03:38] <semitones> Hey so for oneconf, is the idea that I install it on my current kubuntu install, then install it on my new kubuntu install?
[03:38] <jacobp> poopop
[03:38] <tanath> reisio, chrome stable to chrome beta
[03:38] <ectabyte> arghx: I'm not really sure what's happening, I used aticonfig --initial for my initial settings but I changed it to use dual monitors but it resets when i log into it
[03:39] <marp> join #ubuntu-br
[03:39] <RingZer0> reisio: lol, on all our enterprise we use RHEL/CentOS - for our work server (vpn) we use ubuntu server
[03:39] <reisio> tanath: not chromium?
[03:39] <tanath> reisio, chrome beta won't install 'cause it says chrome stable is installed. attempting to remove chrome stable does nothing as if it's not installed
[03:39] <arghx> ectabyte: fglrx supports xrandr afaik. use that for your monitor settings
[03:39] <reisio> RingZer0: that's even weirder
[03:39] <dhruvasagar> could anyone help with audio or do I just have to bear the pain right now withot headphones ?
[03:40] <reisio> tanath: maybe you have chromium installed?
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, no, chromium lacks some things
[03:40] <reisio> tanath: like spyware
[03:40] <purpleyuan> Er, okay. I typed in "gnome-settings-daemon" on my terminal and my touchpad stopped working. Yes, I'm stupid. How do I get the touchpad working agian?
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, no
[03:40] <ectabyte> arghx: set that as a startup application or something?
[03:40] <phiscibe> RingZer0: you can install nvida outside of the x server
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, no spyware. chrome lacks embedded pdf support and things
[03:40] <arghx> ectabyte: it should remember settings afaik
[03:40] <cpatrick08> dhruvasagar: what audio problem are you experienceing
[03:40] <reisio> tanath: chromium, you mean?
[03:40] <semitones> dhruvasagar: could you tell the whole story? What version of ubuntu are you using, and when did the problem start?
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, anyway, irrrelevant. weird package issues
[03:40] <arrenlex> I just installed 11.10 and noticed it has new multiarch stuff that supports 32-bit apps on 64-bit hosts. How do I use it? I want to compile a 32-bit only app on my 64-bit machine.
[03:40] <tanath> reisio, er, yes
[03:41] <Guest92328> 1st time here, can I ask a q?
[03:41] <arghx> tanath: it also "lacks" lots of reporting to google about user surfing habits...
[03:41] <semitones> arrenlex: i'd also like to find out how. I want to install psx2x
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: yep of course :)
[03:41] <tanath> reisio, issue isn't with chrome it's with package management
[03:41] <arghx> !ask | Guest92328
[03:41] <dhruvasagar> Captainkrtek: semitones I just upgraded to 11.10 last night, the headphones do not seem to work consistently, they work sometimes but if I plugout and then plug them back in, they're not working
[03:41] <tanath> arghx, only if you enable them. which it asks.
[03:41] <arghx> tanath: pastebing your apt-get output please
[03:41] <tanath> arghx, and seriously, it's google. sounds a bit paranoid
[03:42] <dhruvasagar> Captainkrtek: semitones also once I plugin my headphones, then the speakers go mute (the auto-mute), but when I plug them out, the speakers do not unmute, the only way is to go to alsamixer and unmute them manually
[03:42] <Guest92328> upgraded 11.04 to 11.10 cannot enter Keepassx gui after entering password
[03:42] <celthunder> arrenlex: install the 32 bit libraries in the 64 bit install or make a chroot either way it should let you build 32 bit in your 64/use them
[03:42] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: what does it show, you get log in screen or not?
[03:42] <jackd> asdfsdfsfmsdnfn
[03:42] <marp>  /join #ubuntu-br
[03:43] <arghx> tanath: it is not paranoid. google is a hundred billion dollar company only because of the datamining of their users websearches and surfing habits...
[03:43] <Hordeking> Hey, have there been any reports about the nvidia kernel module breaking on an upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10? I've had this happen several times on distribution upgrades, but I'm not sure why, since distros install fine from scratch.
[03:43] <dhruvasagar> Captainkrtek: semitones when the headphones do work too, I am hearing sound only in the left ear, there is a very low muffled sound in the right year, changing the balance to the right one does not fix it
[03:43] <semitones> dhruvasagar: hmm, check out this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/868915 -- can you see the same behavior in alsamixer as the poster?
[03:43] <reisio> Hordeking: someone was in here yesterday who'd had his system switched from nvidia to nouveau
[03:43] <arghx> Hordeking: how did you install your nvidia modules? via installer from nvidia.com?
[03:43] <Guest92328> keepassx icon is on the top line, right clock can unlock/lock and it opens a windows to enter password but then no way to find the windows with password lists etc.
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: not  quite sure what icon your getting
[03:44] <Hordeking> arghx: No, the one I had was the vanilla one the ubuntu installer installed.
[03:44] <arghx> tanath: but feel free if you don't want your problem solved. have a nice day then
[03:44] <SetiAmon> So whats the deal no more screen savers in 11.10?
[03:44] <Hordeking> arghx: I've managed to get the thing to boot to runlevel 2, framebuffer mode.
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: also maybe you just got a faulty upgrade, and best to start over with a clean install of 11.10
[03:44] <tanath> gah, my mistake. wrong package name. sorry
[03:44] <Guest92328> keepassx icon like 2 keys arranged in a cross with a small lock icon on it if locked or without lock icon if unlocked
[03:44] <dhruvasagar> semitones: looks extremely similar, but there is no solution / workaroudn :(
[03:44] <illmortal> anyone know if the command to recover grub has changed in 11.10?.. I'm about to install Windows 7 on a 2nd drive.
[03:44] <semitones> dhruvasagar: better link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/871611
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: oh in Unity, the new interface?
[03:45] <tanath> arghx, evidence suggests they've been very good about the whole "don't be evil" thing
[03:45] <arghx> illmortal: it's the same
[03:45] <reisio> illmortal: I don't see how it could've
[03:45] <arghx> !ot | tanath
[03:45] <illmortal> thanks arghx
[03:45] <sgs2_usr> Can anyone tell me how to save my lcd brightness adjustment? it reset to maximum brightness everytime i boot up
[03:45] <illmortal> i dunno reisio I've been finding quite a few surprises.
[03:45] <RingZer0> figures, my luck: Bumblebee's install.sh :: The BusID of the nVidia card can't be determined -- You must correct this manually in /etx/X11/xorg.conf.invidia.  Please report this problem.  If you happen to get it working please run bumblebee-submitsystem (lol)
[03:45] <tanath> arghx, oh, so if i disagree with you about an irrelevant topic you won't help me eh? that how it works?
[03:45] <reisio> illmortal: yeah but GRUB is GRUB
[03:45] <sap> can any help for my video problem
[03:45] <illmortal> true
[03:45] <Guest92328> yes, unity new interface
[03:45] <studentz>   sap which video car do you have?
[03:46] <sap> nvidia geforce 6100
[03:46] <arrenlex> celthunder: Okay, I tried running "cmake ." and it said I had a 64-bit system which was not supported. I am trying to install 32-bit cmake but it errors out saying it's not installable. Where do I go from here?
[03:46] <Bulldog2010> hi all
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Guest92328: ok well  someone else can probably help you better
[03:46] <RingZer0> geforce 8600M
[03:46] <studentz> sap I meansap i can help you
[03:46] <Guest92328> no faulty upgrade works great, everybody on web complaints about this for a while and no solution
[03:46] <mtrg> why does my ibus has chinese added by default and no other languages? (input methods)
[03:46] <SetiAmon> There is no screen savers in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[03:46] <arghx> tanath: you STILL haven't answered about your topic but whined about irrelevant stuff. since my time is to precious to deal with someone like you who can't explain his problem I better /ignore you now. helps my bloodpressure
[03:46] <illmortal> no setiamon
[03:46] <sgs2_usr> SetiAmon: nope
[03:46] <RingZer0> geforce is the same as nvidia isn't it?
[03:46] <illmortal> there's a command that gives you the capability though.
[03:46] <martian> Oh look, if I right click on the desktop and not the unity panel, I can create a new launcher in the panel. That makes a lot of sense.
[03:46] <tanath> arghx, did i miss something? or did you?
[03:46] <sap> yes
[03:46] <imperfect-> geforce is a series by nvidia
[03:46] <arghx> RingZer0: yes. and bumblebee is unsupported 3rd party software
[03:46] <sebsebseb> SetiAmon: uhmm
[03:47] <illmortal> gotta google, "10 things after 11.10" or something like that.
[03:47] <sebsebseb> SetiAmon: you seen the lock screen screensaver?
[03:47] <Hordeking> arghx: I was noticing when I tried to apt-get install nvidia-current from the ppa, it was doing something with some PAE kernel modules?
[03:47] <robin0800> SetiAmon, if you want sceensavers the workaround is to uninstall gnome screensaver and install any others you want
[03:47] <studentz> Sap which is the problem?
[03:47] <phiscibe> Guest92328: can you double click them,  instead of single click normal
[03:47] <tanath> arghx, i said i used the wrong package name. so i don't actually need help with that.
[03:47] <martian> 1 thing to do after installing 11.10. Reinstall 11.04.
[03:47] <Bulldog2010> can some one help me install my Brother Dcp115c Printer in Ubuntu 11.10 as it keeps tellin me that there are no drivers installed for this printer adn it wont work. worked fine in 11.04
[03:47] <sebsebseb> martian: Why?
[03:47] <celthunder> arrenlex: uhm you shouldn't need a 32 bit cmake you need the 32 bit libraries only last i checked...
[03:47] <usr13> imperfect-: yes
[03:47] <sebsebseb> martian: or switch to another distro :D
[03:47] <lucasn> hhjhjjkg
[03:48] <crash1hd> ok somehow I lost unity? when it boots up its not there
[03:48] <tanath> arghx, and try not to stress so easy
[03:48] <sgs2_usr> Bulldog2010: did you check the official printer website for the driver?
[03:48] <Guest92328> cannot double cliock really as 1st click shows short (2 options) menu
[03:48] <celthunder> arrenlex: the compilers should be able to go back/forth
[03:48] <crash1hd> I can run unity-2d from applications
[03:48] <illmortal> oh God... I just realized.. if I have to do a clean install of 11.10... I'll probably be screwed out of my video configuration lol
[03:48] <crash1hd> and it loads but it doesnt run on startup
[03:48] <illmortal> GTX260 NVIDIA ... do not need any problems if I have to clean install.
[03:48] <Bulldog2010> sgs2_usr: yes and installed it but got the same thing
[03:48] <sgs2_usr> illmortal: always backup 11.04 config before performing update
[03:48] <rodd> Hi
[03:48] <martian> sebsebseb: what can I say. this release has turned this long time user and one who enjoyed ocasionally coming here to help others into a bitchy troll
[03:49] <sgs2_usr> Bulldog2010: tough luck then....raise bug in launchpad
[03:49] <Hordeking> arghx: I did actually try to install the nividia drivers from the nvidia website. The installer whined about some preconfig scripts not present or failing (or something)
[03:49] <rodd> I've got an annoying problem with ubuntu on my laptop
[03:49] <illmortal> the update has went smooth, sgs2_usr
[03:49] <rodd> I cannot control the brightness level
[03:49]  * rypervenche loves being a Debian user.
[03:49] <Bulldog2010> ok thanks!
[03:49] <illmortal> I assume because it kept the video config from 11.04 lol
[03:49] <arghx> rypervenche: E_CHAN
[03:49] <rodd> it's a sony vaio, vpccw13fb, is there anyone here that could help me?
[03:49] <lucasn_> hello
[03:49] <sgs2_usr> rodd: i can, but can't save it
[03:49] <martian> sebsebseb: I guess I have learned from it that maybe there needs to be more people like me involved in testing the beta releases and providing feedback. Maybe this nightmare could be avoided.
[03:49] <arghx> !ask | rodd
[03:49] <sebsebseb> martian: http:.//distrowatch.com
[03:49] <Hordeking> illmortal: Hmmm, that might be, but I can't find an nvidia driver besides nvidiafb.ko
[03:50] <arrenlex> celthunder: Oh, I see... I'm not sure where to go from here to start building this app though.
[03:50] <sgs2_usr> illmortal: well, u said ur graphic screwed up
[03:50] <rodd> I already asked my question
[03:50] <rodd> sgs2_usr,  what do you mean by cannot save it?
[03:50] <robin0800> Hordeking, think you can ignore that message and just continue
[03:50] <illmortal> <_<; i'll just go ahead and save my config file.
[03:50] <sgs2_usr> rodd: when i adjust my lcd brightness, the next reboot, it resetted back to MAXIMUM brightness again
[03:50] <rodd> well, a temp solution would be great
[03:50] <arghx> !ppa | Hordeking
[03:51] <Hordeking> robin0800: It certainly doesn't give me the option to ignore it.
[03:51] <l1nr007> arista doesn't work on ubuntu 11.10... I wonder how can I take a preset from the computer-advance.json and use it manually in terminal like this one: http://pastebin.com/EUjsh5pT
[03:51] <sap> help> help> video problem
[03:51] <crash1hd> I installed the compiz thing and lost unity?
[03:51] <illmortal> deja dup back up utility for the win
[03:51] <Hordeking> arghx: Yes, I know what a PPA is.
[03:51] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: Unity is a plugin for Compiz
[03:51] <alexc__> hi
[03:51] <rodd> sgs2_usr, could you share your approach?
[03:51] <rodd> my eyes would thank you
[03:51] <evildaemon> Once again, where is the mini.iso for 11.10, I can't find it.
[03:51] <SetiAmon> anyone here have no sound in browsers on 11.10?
[03:51] <martian> sebsebseb: but the fact is that ubuntu has long since been far ahead of most other distros in usability. I can focus on writing code and enjoying an easy to use and install operating system that has advanced polish and shine. Now that polish and shine has been applied to a retarded interface and so I'm left with picking a crappy flaky distro or one designed for morons.
[03:51] <arghx> Hordeking: but you apparently don't know how to read the WARNING ubottu just gave
[03:52] <sgs2_usr> rodd: how do you normally adjust your laptop lcd brightness?
[03:52] <xangua> !minimal | evildaemon
[03:52] <Guest92328> keepassx no access to gui after enter password, any solution?
[03:52] <Hordeking> arghx: It's a rather irrelevant warning, don't you think? If I didn't have the problem, I wouldn't have been looking at the PPA. At any rate, it didn't seem to help.
[03:52] <zmbmartin> Does anyone know how to change nautilus keybindings?
[03:52] <rodd> sgs2_usr,  fn button plus f5 or f6
[03:52] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, ok well when I installed the compiz manager something locked up and I rebooted and now when I boot up the nice new bar on the side is gone
[03:52] <sebsebseb> martian: actsaully I can think of a few distros that are more user friendly really, depending on the user
[03:52] <boxbeatsy> hi, is there any way to upload a set of files to multiple ftp servers at the same time?
[03:52] <sgs2_usr> rodd: exactly...
[03:52] <robin0800> Hordeking, well what does it say?
[03:52] <evildaemon> Thank you
[03:52] <rodd> ...
[03:52] <alexc__> hi
[03:52] <sgs2_usr> rodd: you just answered your own question :D
[03:52] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: ok yeah
[03:53] <sap> please help
[03:53] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: thought you had done something like that
[03:53] <sebsebseb> !ask | sap
[03:53] <rodd> n
[03:53] <arghx> boxbeatsy: only with several ftp clients. you could write a script for ncftpput which does this
[03:53] <rodd> no
[03:53] <rodd> sgs2_usr,  I can see the brightness bar widget changing
[03:53] <Aleo> hi again
[03:53] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, any idea how I fix it?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: compia  fusion settings manager right,  well just enable unity again in it, then should get it back
[03:53] <crash1hd> yes
[03:53] <rodd> however it doesn't affect anything
[03:53] <sgs2_usr> rodd: yes, same here...but does it save the setting the next time u reboot?
[03:53] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: is this 11.10 or 11.04 by the way?
[03:53] <l1nr007> any idea please ?
[03:53] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, 11.10
[03:53] <Hordeking> robin0800: Well, I'd have to try to run the installer again, but it said something to the effect of couldn't find, or run, some preconfig scripts somewhere. And gave me the option to quit. Not much of an option, since that's all I could do.
[03:53] <rodd> sgs2_usr,  it keeps at maximum even if I put it to the lowest
[03:54] <phiscibe> in gnome, kde, xfce, windows and mac: when you left click a tray icon it opens the app window, and when you right click it, it opens the app context menu. But now, in ubuntu, the behavior is differente to all desktops in the world. And, to open the app window it takes 2 (two) clicks and not 1 (one). I think this is a lot of usabilitiy lost. (sorry about my bad english) – user4928
[03:54] <arghx> rodd: try to use an acpi program like acpitool or such to set brightness and then put it in /etc/rc.local which makes it run on bootup
[03:54] <sgs2_usr> rodd: okay, mine works when i adjust it, but not able to save it, so slightly different bug
[03:54] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: what do you see instead?  can you show me of interest?
[03:54] <Hordeking> arghx: What would possibly cause the video driver to vanish like that on an upgrade?
[03:54] <Aleo> robin0800, I don't have the appearance icon on settings, is this normal, I installed today Ubuntu last version
[03:54] <arghx> rodd: it's a crappy workaround but other than that you can only google how other vaio users solved the problem
[03:54] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: as in screenshot
[03:54] <xangua> phiscibe: if you mean unity launcher, i tested it today and it runs apps with one clic
[03:54] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, all I get is the bar at the top for the desktop (you know the one that lets you organize the desktop ext... (I will try)
[03:55] <Aleo> also don't have screesaver options under system settings
[03:55] <rodd> ill give it a try
[03:55] <rodd> thanks
[03:55] <boxbeatsy> arghx: ah i see, i was trying to write a script that automates ncftp, but it just pauses fater the initial login when promnpted for the username.  do you know how i can write a shell script that can take standard input?
[03:55] <RingZer0> okay, so ubuntu 2d works great (wahhhh , but i want 3d to work!)  does this mean 3d accel isn't working?
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Aleo: yep things have changed
[03:55] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | Aleo
[03:55] <Lafiir> After the upgrade to 11.10, Totem can no longer play my .mp4 video files (h264+aac).  It tries to install 'quicktime-demuxer' but fails. Also Nautilus does not create thumbnails for them anymore. Ideas?
[03:55] <phiscibe> sorry i didnt mean to paste there, i think for one one of my machines something has revered to the old behaviour
[03:55] <xangua> Aleo: no screensaver, i saw a post on webupd8 to tweak oneiric and add screensaver and other useful stuff ;)
[03:55] <phiscibe> tyring to figure it out
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Aleo: Ubuntu 11.10 uses Gnome 3.2 with Unity by default,  Gnome Shell and a Gnome 2 like fall back mode in repos as an option
[03:55] <martian> sebsebseb: ahh, which distros do you speak of?
[03:56] <Guest92328> anyone uses KeepassX on ubuntu 11.10?
[03:56] <robin0800> Aleo, you should have its the first one under personnel
[03:56] <sebsebseb> martian: pm me
[03:56] <Aleo> hummm
[03:56] <sebsebseb> martian:  since off topic
[03:56] <arghx> boxbeatsy: expect I guess. but: you can put the password on the commandline. if you want to that is. or use a scripting language like python/perl/ruby for your script where getting passwords typed in is even easier
[03:56] <xangua> phiscibe: you can try run: unity --reset
[03:56] <soreau> RingZer0: What graphics card do you have?
[03:56] <arghx> soreau: from the log, I'd say it's an nvidia optimus setup
[03:56] <phiscibe> this one box is foobard, i got it mixed up with kde desktop
[03:57] <phiscibe> was just testing anyway
[03:57] <soreau> arghx: Did you install the nvidia driver with jockey?
[03:57] <Aleo> sebsebseb, there is any solution for this, I really like screensavers, and would like the other things
[03:57] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, goto http://www.tinyurl.com/5th58up it goes to the image on imageshack
[03:57] <Aleo> I installed already the advanced settings
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Aleo: ok right
[03:57] <l1nr007> can anyone translate these settings http://pastebin.com/EUjsh5pT into a ffmpeg command to use it in terminal ?
[03:58] <robin0800> Aleo,  if you want sceensavers the workaround is to uninstall gnome screensaver and install any others you want
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Aleo: apparnatly no screensavers in Ubuntu 11.10 at all, not quite sure if that's true, however I  know that Gnome 3 doesn't have any screensavers except for the lock one
[03:58] <Lafiir> @Guest92328: yes, working fine
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Aleo: so I guess that's true,  well if you remove gnome screensaver
[03:58] <arghx> soreau: why would I? I was telling you about RingZer0's problem. I don't own optimus hardware like he does
[03:58] <tanath> anyone else have software centre just show a blank screen?
[03:58] <johnjohn101> what is airplane mode?
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Aleo: you may be able to get xscreensaver working for example, but not tired this myself
[03:58] <rodd> hm acpitool didn't work, apparently it only sets the brightness for thinkpads and asus
[03:58] <soreau> arghx: oh, sorry :)
[03:58] <studentz> sebsebseb check  this site http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[03:58] <Guest92328> I cannot see the password list after enter the master password, how do you navigate/focus to it?
[03:58] <Aleo> humm
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Aleo: also I think Ubuntu/Canonical will implement  some sort of screensaver feature later on  from  something I read
[03:59] <Aleo> that will be good
[03:59] <tanath> johnjohn101, disables wireless
[03:59] <arghx> Aleo: look for X screensaves?
[03:59] <Aleo> arghx, I would like to have the Screensaver icon on system settings
[03:59] <sebsebseb> Aleo: later on though, would mean 12.04 I guess though
[04:00] <sap_> video playback problem
[04:00] <tanath> johnjohn101, some old planes have instruments that might be affected by signals, so many phones and laptops have 'airplane mode'
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Aleo: as for Gnome Shell, there's something about how people can make some sort of screensavers like extension for it
[04:00] <johnjohn101> tx tanath. i had no idea
[04:00] <Aleo> I installed gnome interface too, but when I log into gnome there is no screensaver also
[04:00] <usr13> sap_: Yes......?
[04:00] <tanath> np
[04:00] <arrenlex> celthunder: Okay, I am trying to install the 32-bit version of libwxgtk, by issuing "sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.8-0:i386, but it says that package is not installable. What am I doing wrong?
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Aleo: yep since it's Gnome 3.2 under neath
[04:00] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, yeah it disabled unity how odd now when I enable it says there are a bunch of conflicts so I said to allow them anyhow
[04:00] <usr13> sap_: What kind of video ?
[04:01] <jefimenko> unity 3d doesn't work anymore after upgrading to 11.10. i get the following when i run unity --reset. http://paste.ubuntu.com/708352/
[04:01] <asherreilly> Can someone explain why PClinuxos has such a high distrowatch rating but when you go on their irc site they only have 20 users?   Most others have 500+?
[04:01] <Gunz4MiPPle> is there any way to get the old gnome back
[04:01] <arrenlex> celthunder: It complains about gstreamer not going to be installed.
[04:01] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: ok just saw the shot, yeah that looks a bit odd
[04:01] <Aleo> sebsebseb, ok, so what I have to do to have screensavers and the icon on system settings ?
[04:01] <xangua> !gnome2 | Gunz4MiPPle
[04:01] <Gunz4MiPPle> gnome classic isnt really glassic
[04:01] <tanath> asherreilly, could be their users don't use irc :P
[04:01] <sebsebseb> studentz: already been on that link before, but ok then :)
[04:01] <Gunz4MiPPle> !notunity
[04:01] <usr13> asherreilly: Could be that it just works.  (Needs very little support.)
[04:01] <Aleo> also the themes tab does not appear neither the font tab I used to see on Debian Gnome
[04:01] <studentz> jefimenko video card problem
[04:01] <tanath> asherreilly, maybe they have a different community outlet
[04:01] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, odd is an understatement lol :) but its all fixed now thanks
[04:01] <bazhang> asherreilly, #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[04:01] <adminscout> hello
[04:02] <ectabyte> I tried xrandr and arandr to set dualmonitors with gnome-shell but the screen because extremly disordered and pixilated so I couldn't read anything..
[04:02] <Aleo> and there is no right click on the panels like on Debian
[04:02] <Aleo> :)
[04:02] <arghx> jefimenko: are you another optimus user?
[04:02] <jefimenko> studentz: a configuration problem or something else? it was working on 11.04
[04:02] <Gunz4MiPPle> thank u xangua its gnome panel i actually want
[04:02] <ectabyte> It works fine at the display manager
[04:02] <ectabyte> Just not when I log on
[04:02] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: how you fix?
[04:02] <studentz> jefimenko which video card do you have?
[04:02] <illmortal> Damn... back up file is larger than 5GB lol
[04:03] <arghx> ectabyte: could it be something in your X session messes it up. some config you made?
[04:03] <robin0800> !nounity | Gunz4MiPPle
[04:03] <ectabyte> arghx: Should I post it here?
[04:03] <arghx> jefimenko: pastebin the output of lspci -nn
[04:03] <jefimenko> arghx, studentz: it's a nVidia Corporation GT218 [NVS 3100M] (rev a2)
[04:03] <arghx> ectabyte: pastebin
[04:03] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, turned unity back on
[04:03] <arghx> ectabyte: but I'm not really clear what you want to pastebin
[04:04] <Gunz4MiPPle> the new unity makes Doom 2 drag... Doom 2!
[04:04] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, in compiz-manager (for some reason it turned of unity for me)
[04:04] <ectabyte> Yeah I know, I'll paste my xorg.conf
[04:04] <sebsebseb> Aleo: not tried this myself, but it seems the suggesiton going around here is to, uninstall gnome-screensaver then install xscreensavers,  well worth a try I guess
[04:04] <Hordeking> I thought the ubuntu people were supposed to try to be helpful. Telling me I voided my warranty by doing something to fix a problem isn't very helpful.
[04:04] <ectabyte> I don't know what else would be causing it
[04:04] <ectabyte> http://pastie.org/2698730
[04:04] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: yeah, that's what I said earlier wasn't it, to re enable Unity
[04:04] <Aleo> sebsebseb, ok, going to try
[04:04] <sebsebseb> in there
[04:04] <adminscout> where to go for joti?>
[04:04] <Takyoji> Does Unity honestly still have issues with a multi-monitor setup? I have separate X screens, and X screen 1 is blank white (but I can move the cursor over to it, which turns to an X)
[04:05] <Hordeking> If I knew what might have happened to break things during the distribution upgrade, I'd maybe be able to fix it.
[04:05] <tanath> anyone know why software centre might be completely blank?
[04:05] <Aleo> sebsebseb, and about to set the size of the dock bar on the left, I mean the icons look to big and I am on 1650x1080 res
[04:05] <sap_> usrl13 what of video means?
[04:06] <jefimenko> arghx, studentz: my laptop has both of these video cards, but i can enable either one from BIOS. the nvidia is enabled currently. http://paste.ubuntu.com/708353/
[04:06] <usr13> Hordeking: True
[04:06] <RingZer0> yum has yum search, what does apt have?
[04:06] <bazhang> RingZer0, apt-cache search
[04:06] <xangua> RingZer0: apt-cache search
[04:06] <usr13> sap_: What is your problem?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Aleo: uhmm ok
[04:06] <arghx> jefimenko: as long as both show up, then both are enabled as far as X is concerned
[04:06] <tanath> Hordeking, if paid help isn't helpful you can always look for volunteer/user help
[04:06] <xangua> RingZer0: apt-get help | apt-cache help
[04:06] <RingZer0> thanks guys
[04:07] <RingZer0> i use to just use aptitude like on my rooted droid charge
[04:07] <sap_> actually when i try to play a video it plays normally suddenly video gets hang but audio goes on
[04:07] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, yes just not sure why it disable it
[04:07] <martian> Aleo: no. The people in charge of the distro know better than your opinions.
[04:07] <robin0800> Aleo, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html has more details
[04:07] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: probaby some other plugin you enabled, disabled it
[04:07] <ectabyte> Gnome-shell has been having alot of issues with fglrx, so it might be a bug
[04:07] <RingZer0> martian: lmao.  that was funny
[04:07] <ibqn> is there a pdf plug-in available for chromium browser?
[04:07] <sap_> after 5-7 seconds it again plays
[04:07] <ectabyte> My volume applet is blinking on and off too so
[04:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> ibqn: doesnt google docs have one built it that it uses
[04:08] <RingZer0> martian: you are 99.9% right... there is a .1% chance he is just a super-human ... well, more like .000001%
[04:08] <Aleo> martian, it seems they don't have thinked that some people like to costumize things
[04:08] <adminscout> hello
[04:08] <Aleo> robin0800, thks going to see
[04:08] <Aleo> :)
[04:08] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, thats the odd part all I did was install it didnt play with any of them
[04:08] <xangua> ibqn: not in chromium but google chrome has
[04:09] <Flannel> robin0800: Please don't link to things like that in here.  Those scripts do unsafe things and can mess up peoples systems.
[04:09] <lucasn_> hey buds
[04:09] <arghx> Hordeking: you demand unpaid help, complain about its terms and even want people to support 3rd party stuff which does god knows what? not even MSFT or Oracle or any other commercial vendor where you pay thousands for every incident supports 3rd party software. and last but not least you didn't give people here ANYTHING to make it easier to help you. all you say is "this shit doesn't work, now help me NOW!"
[04:09] <tanath> martian, what's with the bad attitude? they may know what's better on average (ie., for most people), but if an individual says something else is better for them, who are they to disagree?
[04:09] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, I hit the preferences button and it locked up
[04:09] <sap_> usrl13 do u have any solution
[04:09] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: oh
[04:09] <xangua> ibqn: if you preffer chromium there are totorials to add google's chrome pdf reader to chromium
[04:09] <usr13> sap_: What kind of video ?
[04:09] <RingZer0> im trying to install php... is the php5 inside apt-cache search php v. 5.3.6 ?
[04:09] <tanath> martian, disclaimer: responding to your comment which may be out of context...
[04:09] <ibqn> xangua, is there a chrome package for ubuntu?
[04:09] <xangua> tutorials*
[04:09] <sap_> movies like mp4, mkv etc
[04:09] <arghx> !info php5
[04:09] <martian> tanath: I was using heavy sarcasm... not sure if you got that :)
[04:10] <arghx> RingZer0: as you can see: yes
[04:10] <tanath> martian, oh, lol. like i said, out of context
[04:10] <usr13> sap_: What video player are you using?
[04:10] <sap_> vlc
[04:10] <arghx> ibqn: only google themselves distribute chrome, no one else can. ask them if they have a ubuntu compatible package
[04:10] <RingZer0> arghx: what do you mean "as i can see"
[04:10] <tanath> sap_, smplayer is a good alternative
[04:10] <martian> ibqn: you can get the deb from google's official site, and that will enable their repo for updates as well
[04:10] <arghx> RingZer0: check what ubottu wrote last
[04:11] <usr13> sap_: sudo apt-get upgrade vlc
[04:11] <studentz> jefimenko your  nvidia car  should work without any problem
[04:11] <ibqn> xangua, there is no such a big difference for me, but on gentoo I used precompiled version of chmome
[04:11] <sap_> ok
[04:11] <edbian> ibqn, There's also chromium-browser
[04:11] <usr13> sap_: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[04:11] <usr13> sap_: sudo apt-get install gxine
[04:11] <dhruvasagar> Hi, it says some of the packages have been kept back from upgrade, I did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as well but it still says the same things for those packages, what should I do ?
[04:11] <RingZer0> arghx: sweet, that's the version I want, how can i tell from the tty?
[04:11] <Noc2> .
[04:11] <tanath> people still use gxine?
[04:11] <studentz> jefimenko isit is active?
[04:11] <arghx> RingZer0: tell what?
[04:11] <jefimenko> studentz: the nvidia is
[04:11] <RingZer0> arghx: what version a package is..
[04:11] <xangua> ibqn: you can download google chrome from google chrom download page...
[04:11] <arghx> RingZer0: that it installs this version? apt-cache policy php5  for example
[04:12] <hansg01> plz help me to restore the grub
[04:12] <RingZer0> policy?
[04:12] <dhruvasagar> anybody ?
[04:12] <arghx> RingZer0: dpkg -l <package> if it's already installed. apt-cache show <package> if it isn't yet
[04:12] <hansg01> i installed fedora now no other os is being identified
[04:12] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, yeah so I uninstalled it thinking that would fix it but no so reinstalled and saw that unity was disabled
[04:12] <studentz> jefimenko The driver is the same version that was before the update?
[04:12] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: ah ok
[04:12] <edbian> hansg01, You should really ask in #fedora  They will know better than us.
[04:12] <edbian> sebsebseb, hi
[04:12] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, now I am trying to figure out what the default settings where
[04:12] <tanath> hansg01, you can boot to the install disc to restore grub
[04:12] <sebsebseb> edbian: hi
[04:12] <RingZer0> arghx: and your paypal donate link is?
[04:12] <RingZer0> :)
[04:12] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: I think if you re enable Unity, it puts things back on the default settings anyway
[04:13] <edbian> hansg01, if you boot a liveCD (ubuntu) I can help you
[04:13] <arghx> hansg01: and if you restore grub like tanath suggests, then you can only use ubuntu and can't use fedora anymore
[04:13] <hansg01> edbian: yeah i hv
[04:13] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: or  would in your case
[04:13] <Arkaniad> Hey guys. Whenever I try to enable a gnome-shell theme, there is a weird title-bar behind the gnome shell bar on the top of the screen. I can also not get ThemeSelector extension to work. Any ideas?
[04:13] <jefimenko> studentz: i had the most up-to-date version in 11.04. i assume i now have the most up-to-date version in 11.10
[04:13] <arghx> RingZer0: this is free support. not paid support
[04:13] <edbian> hansg01, boot it, mount your ubuntu install (did you already?)
[04:13] <jefimenko> studentz: i'm going to try rebooting with the intel card to see if it makes a difference
[04:13] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, yes you would think but it obviously enabled something else as there where conflicts and now nautilus looks different
[04:13] <tanath> arghx, sorry, didn't know he had other *nixes installed.
[04:13] <jefimenko> studentz: brb
[04:13] <ibqn> xangua, thank you
[04:13] <hansg01> arghx: i didnt got what tanath told me
[04:14] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: well worst case cienario re install 11.10 I guess
[04:14] <edbian> hansg01, I can fix this problem if you follow my instructions :)
[04:14] <arghx> hansg01: you want to install both fedora and ubuntu and want to boot both, right?
[04:14] <PunkUnity> just upgraded to 11.10 ad wifi keeps turning off and on which was never a problem on 11.04
[04:14] <studentz> jefimenko can you check the version using nvidia settings
[04:14] <hansg01> edbian: yeah i will
[04:14] <edbian> hansg01, :)  Did you boot the liveCD and mount the install?
[04:14] <sap_> usrl13 gxine is not showing
[04:14] <hansg01> edbian: yeah
[04:14] <dhruvasagar> Hi, it says some of the packages have been kept back from upgrade, I did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as well but it still says the same things for those packages, what should I do ?
[04:15] <arghx> edbian: after your solution, will he be able to boot ubuntu and fedora both?
[04:15] <adityanoise> hi all :)
[04:15] <sap_> it get install but not showing
[04:15] <hansg01> arghx: yeah
[04:15] <studentz> jefimenko please check the OpenGL/GLX information
[04:15] <edbian> arghx, should be, yes
[04:15] <arghx> dhruvasagar: aptitude -s install <kept-package>
[04:15] <edbian> hansg01, sudo grub-install --boot-directory="/path/to/ubuntu/boot" /dev/sda
[04:15] <ArNezT> how to upgrade gambas 2 to gambas 3?
[04:15] <arghx> edbian: good. just checking
[04:15] <edbian> hansg01, I'm assuming you have one harddrive (/dev/sda) and you'll have to replace the path there with whatever it really is
[04:15] <usr13> sap_: sudo apt-get install gxine
[04:16] <hansg01> edbian: this i should run in terminal in live boot?
[04:16] <sebsebseb>  
[04:16] <dhruvasagar> arghx: ok...but why are they not being installed ? everywhere I read dist-upgrade is supposed to fix it, but it's not so either
[04:16] <Milossh> hello. is 11.10 in beta now/
[04:16] <Milossh> ?
[04:16] <edbian> hansg01, yes
[04:16] <sebsebseb> !11.10 | Milossh
[04:16] <edbian> Milossh, No it's been released
[04:16] <hansg01> edbian: i will try it nw and let u knw
[04:16] <usr13> sap_: What video do you want to try and play?
[04:16] <RingZer0> i think this is the first version of any distro ever to come out with the actual current version of PHP, I am so impressed.  usually have to make myself
[04:16] <edbian> hansg01, k
[04:16] <axisys> how do hide the users from login screen?
[04:16] <hansg01> edbian: ne further steps required?
[04:16] <edbian> RingZer0, check out arch
[04:16] <usr13> sap_: See my pm
[04:16] <crash1hd> sebsebseb, do you have 10.11?
[04:17] <crash1hd> or 11.10 I mean
[04:17] <arghx> dhruvasagar: <dpkg> i heard kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available.  This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "full-upgrade" and old packages need to be removed as part of the upgrade.
[04:17] <Milossh> thanks. What about gnome 3? do we have standard gnome sessions? unity used to fail for me while 11.10 was still in beta
[04:17] <edbian> hansg01, You shouldn't need any.  Did it list all your OSs?
[04:17] <arghx> dhruvasagar: most likely you use PPAs
[04:17] <Milossh> it doesn't say much on the website
[04:17] <xangua> Milossh: unity runs on top of gnome
[04:17] <RingZer0> edbian: i will... lol, when i read your name, I am so dyslexic (spelling) that I see debian
[04:17] <arghx> !gnome3 | Milossh
[04:17] <edbian> RingZer0, I use Debian :)  My name is Ed
[04:17] <dhruvasagar> arghx: yes I do and I understand everything you said, but a dist-upgrade is supposed to overlook that isn't it ?
[04:17] <hansg01> edbian:i hv to try in live boot currently i m on fedora
[04:18] <RingZer0> lol
[04:18] <sebsebseb> crash1hd: see my pm in answer to that question
[04:18] <usr13> sap_: What is the path the the video?
[04:18] <Vulpes> hi ubuntus, can I ask a question about the VNC port? after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10, my alternate port map won't take in VNC viewer requests. I'm looking at the gconf-editor in desktop>gnome>remote_access, alt port is in place & use_alternative_port is checked, & I have restarted. Have I forgotten something?
[04:18] <PunkUnity> let me know if you guys have any ideas
[04:18] <arghx> dhruvasagar: you might understand it but I think you didn't read it: "This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved"
[04:18] <Arkaniad> Hey guys. Whenever I try to enable a gnome-shell theme, there is a weird title-bar behind the gnome shell bar on the top of the screen. I can also not get ThemeSelector extension to work. Any ideas?
[04:19] <RingZer0> edbian: pacman huh?
[04:19] <sap_> avi, mkv, mp4, mpg these are the formats which i need to play properly and they are playing but the only problem is that suddenly it gets hang
[04:19] <usr13> sap_: Try playing it with gxine.  i.e.  gxine /path/to/video.mp4  or  mplayer /path/to/video.mp4
[04:19] <arghx> dhruvasagar: and for badly resolved dependencies not even a dist-upgrade can help. tho this should only happen with 3rd party repos
[04:19] <dhruvasagar> arghx: I think it's probably that there maybe some conflict in dependencies
[04:19] <arghx> dhruvasagar: what do you think I'm trying to tell you for the 3rd time already?
[04:20] <sap_> as u told i install gxine but its not showing in the application----sound & video pane
[04:20] <dhruvasagar> arghx: the package I am talking about is banshee, and I just checked and confirmed I don't have any PPA for it :(
[04:20] <arghx> sap_: have you tried other players and maybe checked your video driver setup?
[04:20] <soehendro> hello
[04:20] <l1nr007> how can i get arista work in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[04:20] <RingZer0> sap_: did you click on see all 29852 applications?
[04:20] <arghx> dhruvasagar: and what happens if you want to upgrade banshee explicitly?
[04:20] <RingZer0> I wanna "pin" terminal to my menu rather than this office junk
[04:20] <PunkUnity> sap_ whats wrong with using vlc
[04:20] <arghx> !errors | l1nr007
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> arghx: aptitude -s install banshee didn't seem to go through, it asked me to accept it's proposed solution I pressed yes but nothing happened
[04:21] <sap_> same problem with vlc also it also get freeze for 5-6 seconds
[04:21] <arghx> !errors | dhruvasagar
[04:21] <arghx> sap_: and which videodriver do you use?
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> arghx: it proposed to remove unity and almost everything else!
[04:21] <usr13> sap_: Open a terminal and type  vlc /path/to/video.mp4
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> arghx: is it doing it in the backgroud or something !?
[04:22] <usr13> sap_: Or,  mplayer /path/to/video.mp4
[04:22] <usr13> etc
[04:22] <usr13> sap_: See my pm
[04:22] <dhruvasagar> arghx: man please explain how aptitude -s works
[04:22] <imperfect-> Is there an easy to use wmv->divx ?
[04:22] <dhruvasagar> arghx: the last line it said after I said 'Y' is will download/install/remove package
[04:23] <arghx> dhruvasagar: you cannot tell us your actual error and I cannot help you. please come back to me when you know how to ask for help. in the mean time I suggest you read stuff like http://wiki.wxwidgets.org/How_To_Get_Help_On_IRC#Provide_Enough_Information_To_Solve_The_Problem. have a nice day
[04:23] <dhruvasagar> arghx: forget the error man, I am asking something different now
[04:23] <dhruvasagar> arghx: just tell me how aptitude -s install works, I have never used it before
[04:23] <arghx> dhruvasagar: please forget I exist and read the exceedingly fine documentation of aptitude
[04:24] <dhruvasagar> arghx: it said that it will practically everything
[04:24] <sap_> nvidia x server settings driver 195.36.24
[04:24] <arghx> dhruvasagar: please stop addressing me. please?
[04:24] <dhruvasagar> arghx: can you please help men
[04:24] <mdkendall> Turns out that my no-password troubles were solved by tweaking policykit. Thanks for the help everyone.
[04:24] <JZApples> When upgrading Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10, I don't need to worry about losing any data or setup, will I?  Software RAID array, Evolution Mail, and my backup configuration are high on the list of concerns.
[04:24] <dhruvasagar> arghx: man*, dude it will take me hours to read through doc
[04:24] <l1nr007> here.. please check http://pastebin.com/EDEMWeQX
[04:25] <arghx> sap_: please try another video player as suggested. not just vlc
[04:25] <dhruvasagar> arghx: all I need to know is if it will remove unity and almost every other dependent package sometime on it;s own, I did say 'Y', but it's not doing anything
[04:26] <Immatix> hello
[04:26] <usr13> sap_: paste the path to one of the video files here and we can give you specific command instructions.
[04:26] <sebsebseb> JZApples: well you might lose evolution as part of the upgrade
[04:26] <ubuntu__> how do you change the system font in 11.10??
[04:26] <sebsebseb> JZApples: since Gnome 2 isn't part of Ubuntu 11.10
[04:26] <Takyoji> JZApples: I'm using mdraid for RAID 1 right now, and I upgraded, and haven't had issues on that part.
[04:27] <dhruvasagar> someone pleaase help me for God sakes!
[04:27] <alvin47> why can't I mount other volumes? it says "Authentication is required" but I have only one user account. please help me
[04:27] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, with what
[04:27] <arghx> alvin47: how are you trying to mount them?
[04:27] <dhruvasagar> I did aptitude -s install banshee, it asked me to install some packages and remove some packages, I simply said 'Y', but then after that I noticed that it is going to remove almost everypackage related to unity in the system
[04:27] <LK-_> Hi, I've recently installed 11.10. Xchat isn't working properly. It fails after the first few lines have been sent by the server. However any other client even xchat-gnome works fine.
[04:27] <jiohdi> alvin47, nautilus has mount as root or superuser
[04:28] <dhruvasagar> at the end of it, it ended saying 'Would download/remove/install packages'
[04:28] <sap_> No such file or directory
[04:28] <sap_> libdvdnav: vm: failed to open/read the DVD
[04:28] <sap_> [0x98e9010] access_file access error: cannot open file /path/to/video.mp4 (No such file or directory)
[04:28] <sap_> [0xb7401890] main input error: open of `/path/to/video.mp4' failed: no suitable access module
[04:28] <Immatix> Does anyone have an issue with Gnome windows not remembering their position in 11.10?
[04:28] <xangua> LK-_: try original xchat ;)
[04:28] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, pastebin exactly what it says
[04:28] <dhruvasagar> when will aptitude install/download/remove the packages ? how can I stop it ?
[04:28] <LK-_> xangua: Did you even read my messsage properly?
[04:28] <JZApples> sebsebseb, that was what i was worried about.  So it will uninstall evolution and I will lose all that?
[04:28] <usr13> !dvd | sap
[04:28] <wiseqnet> fakap, ubuntu 11.04 not booting properly
[04:28] <xangua> LK-_: yes, try xchat instead of xchat-gnome
[04:29] <JZApples> Takyoji, that's good to hear.  I'm using mdraid as well.
[04:29] <sebsebseb> JZApples: maybe, but I don't know
[04:29] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: ok doing
[04:29] <alvin47> arghx: i changed to lxde and i open file manager then click on the side panel of volumes but i can't mount them
[04:29] <xangua> sudo apt-get install xchat LK-_
[04:29] <arghx> JZApples: uninstalling a program NEVER deletes userdata in ~
[04:29] <LK-_> xangua:>_<
[04:29] <LK-_> xchat is what's not working
[04:29] <sebsebseb> JZApples: and your user stuff for evolution will probably be ok
[04:29] <arghx> sebsebseb: not just "probably"
[04:29] <wiseqnet> will with fresh install later
[04:29] <JZApples> arghx, where does evolution save it's data?
[04:29] <bazhang> LK-_, whats the exact error. pastebin please
[04:29] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: https://gist.github.com/1289050
[04:29] <LK-_> There is no error. It simply hangs.
[04:29] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: please help me!
[04:29] <xangua> sorry then LK-_ ;)
[04:29] <Takyoji> I have XChat installed, but when you search for it from the Dash, it doesn't list anything; unless you explicitly click on the "Applications" icon on the bottom.
[04:29] <arghx> JZApples: either in ~ or in /var/spool/mail or similar. depends on your mail setup
[04:30] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, patience. I am looking now
[04:30] <l1nr007> hello
[04:30] <xangua> LK-_: if you run the comand in terminal you will see an output ;)
[04:30] <JZApples> sebsebseb, i've been thinking of just switching to thunderbird for some time.
[04:30] <LK-_> xangua: I know.
[04:30] <LK-_> xangua: It does not report an error there.
[04:30] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: the last 10 or so lines are probably the most relevant, I pasted everything for completeness
[04:30] <dhruvasagar> arghx: thanks for nothing
[04:30] <sebsebseb> JZApples: personaly if I was going ot use a email client I would use Thunderbird or maybe even  the email  client in Seamonkey,  but well never used Evolution as an actsaul email client before so hmm
[04:30] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, lose the attitude.
[04:31] <sebsebseb> JZApples: anyway web mail for me for now :)
[04:31] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, I am looking now, please be patient
[04:31] <sebsebseb> JZApples: of course there's Kmail as well for example, if you don't mind having KDE apps
[04:31] <JZApples> sebsebseb, yeah i used to use web mail and regret setting up evolution.  I had the
[04:31] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: all I want to know is did aptitude crash or did it stop or will it actually remove everything sometime soon, say when I restart or something ?
[04:32] <imperfect-> Is there an easy to use wmv->divx software availble int eh repo's?
[04:32] <JZApples> sebsebseb, i had the 'delete mail from server' option checked and it removed everything from the server so i just keep my own backup now.
[04:32] <LK-_> xangua: https://gist.github.com/4f7cb63623f1c8c8ded1 It gets that far. Hangs after that. Wireshark reports no further network activity from it until I /quit.
[04:32] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: I can see it asks 'Do you want to continue [Y/n/?]', I pressed 'y', is it case sensitive ?
[04:32] <sebsebseb> JZApples: oh ok
[04:32] <Guest6656> no
[04:32] <LK-_> It is case insenitive
[04:32] <JZApples> sebsebseb, i'd rather not use kde, gnome works great, wish Ubuntu would have stuck with Gnome 3
[04:32] <bazhang> dhruvasagar, I am trying to read, please be patient.
[04:32] <Takyoji> Anyone else having issues with 11.10 on a multi-monitor setup?
[04:32] <dhruvasagar> LK-_: was that addressed to me ?
[04:32] <HorizonXP> any reason why transferring a 217 gB tar.bz2 file to an USB 2.0 HDD is taking more than 12 hours?
[04:32] <imperfect-> Ident isn't working.
[04:32] <SetiAmon> Checking in.anyone have issues with sound in browsers(youtube etc) x64 11.10?
[04:33] <dhruvasagar> bazhang: ok I will wait for your reply
[04:33] <imperfect-> that's server side.
[04:33] <sebsebseb> JZApples: right, but you can use KDE  apps with Gnome, that's what I mean
[04:33] <Takyoji> or had issues (and got them resolved, which I'm looking for)
[04:33] <JZApples> sebsebseb, yeah i know
[04:33] <Takyoji> because it's 217GB? :P
[04:33] <arghx> bazhang: his initial problem was a kept back banshee. and from the paste he finally made it is clear that it's a libmtp8 versioning conflict
[04:33] <johndoe_> hii, i was wondering if someone can help me out with vgaswitcheroo
[04:33] <JZApples> sebsebseb, i'm kind of a linux newb so i'm trying to keep it simple for awhile
[04:33] <johndoe_> i have no idea how to install it or how to use it
[04:33] <sebsebseb> !gnome2 | JZApples
[04:33] <bazhang> sebsebseb, evolution is in oneiric, it will not be removed if already there
[04:34] <SetiAmon> !sound
[04:34] <SetiAmon> :
[04:34] <JZApples> sebsebseb, yeah i'm aware of that.  Gnome 3 looks great.  I'm curious to see how Unity works in 11.10 but am hesitant to upgrade right away.
[04:34] <johndoe_> hi , can someone kindly walk me through how vga switcheroo works and how i can use it?
[04:34] <hansg01> edibian: error
[04:35] <sebsebseb> JZApples: it seems according to bazhang that upgrading  from 11.04 to 11.10, that your evolution  emails and such will still be ok. and I did say you probably have the settings for that in home or wheever it saves earlier anyway
[04:35] <bazhang> johndoe_, no need to repeat so quickly
[04:35] <arghx> johndoe_: it is "installed" by default since it's a kernel setting. do you have a /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo ?
[04:35] <hansg01> edbian: error
[04:35] <imperfect-> I really dislike unity
[04:35] <bazhang> imperfect-, thats not a support issue though
[04:35] <sebsebseb> !nounity | imperfect-
[04:35] <imperfect-> I didn't say it was
[04:35] <imperfect-> and it's already off
[04:35] <imperfect-> Just an observation
[04:35] <bulwynkl> is there an equivalent to logitech's setpoint? - I have an MK700 kb/mouse setup and I'd like to change the mouse button assignments...
[04:35] <bazhang> imperfect-, so please dont say it here, its support only
[04:36] <HorizonXP> Takyoji: lol, that's what I thought, but so far, it's transferred 177 gB in just over 13 hours, which is like 3.87 mB/s
[04:36] <arghx> imperfect-: but this channel is a support only channel. please take your chattering and excessive enter usage to #ubuntu-offtopic. thank you
[04:36] <johndoe_> arghx: yeah its there
[04:36] <HorizonXP> that's insanely slow for a USB 2.0 disk
[04:36] <imperfect-> good god, you people are fucking anal
[04:36] <Aleo> brb
[04:36] <johndoe_> bazhang: im sorry about that thanks for the warning
[04:36] <imperfect-> grow the fuck up
[04:36] <sgs2_usr> wow
[04:36] <martian> Aleo: okay, thanks for letting us all know
[04:36] <arghx> johndoe_: then you can use it. with it, you can tell X and the kernel which card to use before starting X
[04:36] <fritsch> mmh what was that?
[04:36] <sgs2_usr> mind your language imperfect-
[04:36] <sebsebseb> sgs2_usr: gone already
[04:36] <sgs2_usr> lol
[04:37] <dhruvasagar> arghx: bazhang sorry for being paranoid. I read the man page and now understand that -s is for 'simulate', @arghx you could've just told that to me, I don't care enough to resolve dependencies and install banshee than to screw my system
[04:37] <__machine> how do i make sure that dvbhdhomerun-utils service starts before tvheadend during boot?
[04:37] <johndoe_> arghx: thank you, but how exactly do i tell the kernal how to use the intelhd card instead of the ati discrete card t?
[04:37] <HorizonXP> is a 3.87 mB/s transfer rate typical for a USB 2.0 HDD?
[04:38] <bob_> Hi everyone ! :D
[04:38] <fritsch> HorizonXP: nope
[04:38] <fritsch> HorizonXP: you should get approx 20MB/s
[04:38] <hansg01> how to restore grub using live bot
[04:38] <fritsch> HorizonXP: alt least
[04:38] <qin> __machine: Upstart or cron?
[04:38] <arghx> johndoe_: echo "IGD" > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch   is typical for enabling the internal card and "DIS" would be for the discrete card
[04:38] <xangua> !grub2 | hansg01
[04:38] <HorizonXP> fritsch: that's what I figured. it's been degrading over the course of hours.
[04:39] <arghx> johndoe_: cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch   to see which options you actually have and which one is currently selected
[04:39] <HorizonXP> fritsch: it transferred like 85 gB within 3 hours
[04:39] <__machine> qin: i enabled auto start with update-rc.d tvheadend defaults and update-rc.d dvbhdhomerun-utils defaults
[04:39] <HorizonXP> the next 100 gB or so took like 9 hours
[04:40] <g0rs> i'd like to test dcc send here . Can anybody try? I will send a 100to 700 mb file
[04:40] <arghx> __machine: and enabled it at what point in the boot process? e.g. in the linkname "S??tvheadend" what number is "??" ?
[04:40] <johndoe_> arghx: thank you so much
[04:40] <HorizonXP> fritsch: actually, just looking at the processes in top, and mount.ntfs is running at like 99% CPU
[04:40] <HorizonXP> i'm on an i7, so I didn't notice any issues
[04:41] <johndoe_> arghx: this is the output and im not really sure what it means 0: :Pwr:0000:01:00.0 1:+:Pwr:0000:00:02.0
[04:41] <HorizonXP> fritsch: could be a memory leak?
[04:42] <qin> __machine: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#start-depends-on-another-service
[04:42] <__machine> arghx: 20 for both dvbhdhomerun-utils and tvheadend
[04:42] <arghx> johndoe_: can you pastebin the output of lspci -nn ?
[04:42] <JZApples> Is it recommended to use Ubuntu 64-bit if you have a 64-bit CPU?
[04:42] <arghx> __machine: and the one you want to start later needs a higher number than the other
[04:43] <l1nr007> its related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arista/+bug/814911
[04:43] <arghx> JZApples: yes, within reasn. basically: if you have 4GB or more then use 64bit. otherwise stay with 32bit
[04:43] <ameer-ahmad> how do I know my CPU 32 or 64 bit?
[04:43] <JZApples> arghx, i do have 4GB.
[04:43] <__machine> arghx: what update-rc.d command do i use for that? is it wrong to use update-rc.d servicename defaults to auto start services like this?
[04:44] <lauratika> does anyone had any troubles disabling window decoration under gnome classic in 11.10?
[04:44] <crash1hd> Not that it really matters but can anyone figure out why it is when i log into my guest account the screen goes blank I see the mouse and as I move the mouse around parts of the screen become visible but not the whole thing?
[04:44] <fritsch> HorizonXP: you can detect a memory leak - just copy and look at the used mem
[04:44] <arghx> ameer-ahmad: cat /proc/cpuinfo   if the flags: entry contains "lm" then your cpu is 64bit capable
[04:44] <fritsch> HorizonXP: is your target encrypted? or your source ntfs?
[04:44] <johndoe_> arghx: also when i use the code "sudo echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch" it says no such commamnd found
[04:44] <HorizonXP> fritsch: target is not encrypted, but the target is ntfs. source is ext4
[04:45] <l1nr007> helloooo
[04:45] <qin> lauratika: Set !(any) in ccsm (or whatever is new name) for window-decorations
[04:45] <arghx> __machine: man update-rc.d  see the line "update-rc.d [-n] name defaults [NN | SS KK]"  it should be self explanatory what to use there
[04:45] <arghx> johndoe_: cause "echo" is a bash intrinsic command
[04:46] <HorizonXP> fritsch: interestingly, i have 12 GB of RAM, and looks like all 12 is being used
[04:46] <JZApples> So if I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 will it uninstall the synaptic package manager?
[04:46] <__machine> arghx: thanks
[04:46] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:46] <l1nr007> JZApples, No
[04:46] <freakabcd> I've been using Oneiric since a long time ago and had everything working *before* the release!
[04:46] <freakabcd> now there is no audio on the system after the latest update
[04:46] <lauratika> qin actually i want just my browser with no windows decorartion so i use & !name=opera as in 11.04 but aint working wondering if anybody notice this issue?
[04:46] <JZApples> l1nr007, awesome.
[04:46] <johndoe_> arghx: so what can i exactly do with that?
[04:46] <freakabcd> i think there is something wrong with either pulseaudio or dbus
[04:46] <freakabcd> i'm on x64
[04:46] <bulwynkl> anyone know how to assign actions to mouse buttons
[04:47] <sap_> usrl13
[04:47] <pangolin> freakabcd: that happened to me also, a reboot fixed it.
[04:47] <sap_> r u there
[04:47] <freakabcd> pangolin, except here, reboot didn;t fix
[04:47] <pangolin> freakabcd: sorry :/
[04:47] <JZApples> bulwynkl, i've had issues with pulseaudio in 11.04.
[04:47] <fritsch> HorizonXP: this is normal
[04:47] <arghx> johndoe_: you can use a interactive root shell with sudo -i and enter the echo command there. or you use a script that runs suid root or in root context
[04:47] <fritsch> HorizonXP: linux loads everything it can into ram
[04:47] <qin> lauratika: Something like this, me too opera ;) (any) & !(title=Opera)
[04:47] <fritsch> HorizonXP: why not using it, if it is there
[04:48] <freakabcd> i first tried to unload the snd_* modules manually and then did a modprobe snd_hda_intel to get them loaded back, after which tried restarting lightdm,pulse, etc. no avail
[04:48] <fritsch> HorizonXP: so all shared libs, stuff are loaded for fast access
[04:48] <sap_> usrl13 can u tell me how i can access the root account
[04:48] <johndoe_> arghx: alright perfect it went through
[04:48] <fritsch> HorizonXP: i think you hit an ntfs fuse issue
[04:48] <HorizonXP> fritsch: yeah, i figured so, but it usually isn't all 12GB. no biggie, doesn't seem like it's one particular process hogging it.
[04:48] <fritsch> HorizonXP: try to copy to another drive, which is not ntfs
[04:48] <freakabcd> pangolin, this seems a ridiculous situation. audiop working in all prerelease/nightly versions but the final release
[04:48] <freakabcd> :(
[04:48] <lauratika> qin is working for you this way?
[04:48] <fritsch> HorizonXP: for testing
[04:48] <HorizonXP> fritsch: yeah, i think so too, Google seems to show results highlighting NTFS issues
[04:49] <HorizonXP> fritsch: i don't have another non-NTFS drive, except for network shares
[04:49] <freakabcd> at first i thought it must be a kernel/driver issue. then when i checked logs, etc. nothing to show such is the case
[04:49] <ArNezT> where do I get repo for upgrade gambas 2 to gambas 3 for ubuntu 11.04?
[04:49] <HorizonXP> which I am already copying to
[04:49] <arghx> johndoe_: I'm not totally sure vgaswitcheroo works with your hardware. the output is very very sparse :(  I guess the numbers relate to your PCI slots but since you didn't pastebin the lspci command I cannot be sure
[04:49] <freakabcd> it is definitely a pulseaudio/dbus problem
[04:49] <phiscibe> freakabcd: i hate to mention the obvious, but always check the mixer volume levles, the often get set to zero or mute is turne on alsamixer in terminal is a lowlevel way
[04:49] <fritsch> freakabcd: youre local disk you ar running ubuntu?
[04:49] <fritsch> freakabcd: sorry
[04:49] <fritsch> HorizonXP: your local disk are running ubuntu?
[04:49] <HorizonXP> approximately 110 gB in just over 3 hours so far
[04:50] <johndoe_> arghx: im not really sure on how to pastebin the lspci command
[04:50] <sap_> can any tell me how to access root account
[04:50] <fritsch> HorizonXP: thats just oky
[04:50] <freakabcd> Philosoraptor, everything is maxed out. kubuntu x64 here. and kmix shows hardware information as alsa, alsa+oss
[04:50] <HorizonXP> fritsch: local disk is split between ubuntu and windows 7
[04:50] <HorizonXP> 2 partitions
[04:50] <arghx> howaaa1: ntfs is using fuse and fuse is very very slow. coupled with usb access which sucks as well, it might just be that it can't go faster,
[04:50] <phiscibe> lspci >anytextfile will send it to a file
[04:50] <JZApples> arghx, so if I upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 32-bit to 11.10 64-bit, will i have issues?  am i going to need to reinstall all my apps and find 64-bit versions?
[04:50] <freakabcd> after yesterdays updates, my Xorg is also screwed up sometimes
[04:50] <fritsch> HorizonXP: you could copy from usb to ubuntu?
[04:50] <arghx> JZApples: you cannot upgrade frm 32bit to 64bit
[04:50] <fritsch> HorizonXP: or is your usb2.0 drive ntfs?
[04:50] <HorizonXP> external hdd is NTFS for stupid windows compatability reasons
[04:51] <freakabcd> i lose input from keyboard/mouse sometimes and after a while switching to VT and back, etc. its back
[04:51] <HorizonXP> fritsch: usb2.0 drive is ntfs
[04:51] <fritsch> HorizonXP: outsch, okay
[04:51] <sanu01> guys how can i install gnome 3.2 in 11.10?
[04:51] <freakabcd> so i'm mopre leaning towards dbus being the problem
[04:51] <phiscibe> dont think you can upgrade 32bit to 64 bit, need all new
[04:51] <fritsch> !nounity | sanu01
[04:51] <JZApples> arghx, i should probably just back everything up and do a fresh install.
[04:51] <arghx> JZApples: if you want go 64bit, there is no other way
[04:51] <freakabcd> is there a way i can check the history of what packages were added recently for upgfrade?
[04:52] <aperson> I some how managed to suspend one of my gnu screen windows, I know the program isn't suspended, but it's just sitting there and isn't outputting anything more.  what might I have hit and how might I restore the program?
[04:52] <SetiAmon> so no one has issues with sound in browsers on 11.10 here?
[04:52] <JZApples> arghx, thanks.  I really wish i would have thought that out more when I first installed.
[04:52] <fritsch> aperson: screen -dr
[04:52] <sanu01> ubottu, any problems with stability?
[04:52] <fritsch> aperson: just in another shell, if there are more, you can specificy screen -dr PID
[04:52] <arghx> aperson: can you switch to toher screen windows?
[04:53] <sanu01> anyone using gnome 3.2 in 11.10? how stable is it?
[04:53] <jayden> in Jockey, post-release updates is better than the normal one right?
[04:53] <Stanley00> sanu01: not working in my case :))
[04:53] <johnjohn101> sanu01:  i used it and it works, slow but beautiful
[04:53] <aperson> fritsch: fritsch no dice.  It's aptitude that's frozen, so I really don't want to kill it if I don't have to
[04:53] <sanu01> oki
[04:54] <aperson> arghx: yessir
[04:54] <fritsch> aperson: it does not be killed
[04:54] <fritsch> aperson: it just detaches and reaattaches
[04:54] <aperson> fritsch: no, that didn't work
[04:54] <fritsch> aperson: what did the computer say, when you entered that command?
[04:54] <aperson> fritsch: nothing
[04:54] <sap_> ubottu how can i access my root account?
[04:54] <qin> lauratika: It should. I do not have any decors.
[04:55] <Stanley00> !root | sap_
[04:55] <sap_> ameer can u help me
[04:55] <DanaG> interesting: http://mirrors.calpoly.edu/ubuntu-releases/.pool/
[04:55] <aperson> fritsch: the window just froze.  I can type in it, but it doesn't respond to anything.  I even (desperately) tried a ^c in it, but it doesn't respond
[04:55] <DanaG> there's armel dove and i.mx51.
[04:56] <DanaG> Are those boards actually now available?
[04:56] <fritsch> aperson: mmh so this is not a screen issue
[04:56] <phiscibe> there is no root account in ubuntu
[04:56] <ameer-ahmad> sap_, wassup
[04:56] <lauratika> qin: you mean your browser has no close, maximize, minimize buttons and window decoration?, are you under gnome classic in 11.10?
[04:56] <DanaG> I looked a year ago, and couldn't find where to buy one.
[04:56] <fritsch> aperson: sorry, don`t know
[04:56] <arghx> DanaG: yes
[04:56] <qin> lauratika: What is in command box? /usr/bin/compiz-decorator ?
[04:56] <aperson> fritsch: dang :S, thanks anyways
[04:56] <Lafiir> Did GStreamer loose support for .mp4 video files in 11.10? I can't play them in totem, nor do I get thumbnails for them.
[04:56] <sap_> bro can u tell me how can i access my root account
[04:56] <qin> lauratika: No, 10.10
[04:56] <bazhang> sap_, read the links given. use sudo
[04:56] <arghx> DanaG: efika is i.mx51 hardware
[04:56] <ameer-ahmad> gksudo nautilus
[04:56] <ameer-ahmad> sap_, gksudo nautilus
[04:57] <Stanley00> sap_: on Ubuntu? you cant, just use sudo or gksu ...
[04:57] <phiscibe> sap_:   there is no root account in ubuntu, the sudo command can give you root privlleges
[04:57] <DanaG> And yet, no beagleboard (and such) official images.
[04:57] <lauratika> qin im in oneric 11.10 it used to work ok in natty
[04:57] <__machine> arghx: i changed dvbhdhomerun to start at 10, sickbeard and couchpotato at 20, and tvheadend at 30… but dvbhdhomerun is still not ready by the time tvheadend starts? are the services started sequentially?
[04:57] <arghx> __machine: that's a bad idea
[04:57] <ryty> hi all
[04:57] <HorizonXP> you have got to be kidding me
[04:57] <DanaG> I decided to get myself an HP Microserver instead of an ARM with limited throughput.
[04:58] <arghx> you should not use a number lower than 20
[04:58] <ryty> I have a fun little issue that has re-appeared from previous version of ubuntu (now on 11.10)
[04:58] <qin> lauratika: Do you run compiz? Which decorator?
[04:58] <sap_> thanks stanley00
[04:58] <DanaG> Now, if only the btrfs devs would make a fscking... fsck, that can actually fix things.
[04:58] <arghx> DanaG: do you have an actual ubuntu related support question?
[04:58] <ryty> My MX5000 keyboard and MX1000 mouse don't work like they're supposed to
[04:58] <HorizonXP> this bug in ntfs-3g has been filed since 2009-06-25
[04:58] <sap_> thanks ameer
[04:58] <HorizonXP> that's 2 years without a fix
[04:58] <__machine> whats a bad idea?
[04:58] <__machine> arghx: whats a bad idea?
[04:58] <HorizonXP> it's confirmed, and apparently been fixed upstream
[04:58] <arghx> __machine: starting anything at 10
[04:58] <HorizonXP> but somehow, 4 versions of Ubuntu are affected, and continue to be
[04:58] <HorizonXP> ridiculous
[04:58] <sap_> is any one aware with Osirix
[04:59] <DanaG> Okay, here's an actual question:
[04:59] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/856882
[04:59] <DanaG> What the heck good is it to mark a public bug a duplicate of a private bug>
[04:59] <HorizonXP> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/392204
[04:59] <DanaG> ?
[04:59] <__machine> arghx: why? sabnzbd starts at K02 which is setup by the package installer… and the others that i setup are K10 K20 K30 … vmware tools is K38 … ?
[04:59] <arghx> DanaG: you need to understand what a "question" is I think....
[04:59] <lauratika> qin yes
[04:59] <arghx> __machine: K02 doesn't start anything, it "K" stops things
[05:00] <DanaG> Okay, then what do you do to un-duplicate the "child" bug, or get the parent un-private?
[05:00] <ryty> My MX1000 mouse won't pair to bt
[05:00] <ryty> the keyboard does, but if it's anything like the problem I had before, will be rather intermittent in successful pairing
[05:00] <sap_> any1 knows OsiriX
[05:00] <__machine> arghx: sorry i must have been looking in the wrong runlevel folder
[05:00] <qin> lauratika: ps aux | grep decor
[05:00] <ryty> how do I change my hid driver to hidraw?
[05:00] <DanaG> ryty: I've had much better luck with blueman than with the regular bluetooth applet.
[05:01] <arghx> __machine: personally I would use S40 S41 S42... if I were you. but your choice
[05:01] <Ravnac> Greetings: I probably messed up my Ubuntu (11.10) as I tried to install Kubuntu via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop. After a reboot my Desktop looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/obqk4.png and I have no graphical UI - any1 able to help me? :(
[05:01] <ryty> DanaG, I'll try it
[05:01] <__machine> arghx: i will change it… but still… hdhomerun doesnt seem to be ready by the time that tvheadend starts?
[05:01] <HorizonXP> fritsch: soo.... will this file even finish transferring? or should i give up on it?
[05:01] <DanaG> okay, another valid question: why do links in pidgin open in xlinks2?  That's just weird.
[05:02] <arghx> __machine: normally it is started sequentially. if it doesn't work like you want, I suggest you write some upstart jobs for it
[05:02] <Ravnac> re, disc :(
[05:02] <GennyRondix> salve
[05:02] <lauratika> qin :10608  0.0  0.0   5660   800 pts/0    S+   00:02   0:00 grep --color=auto decor
[05:02] <GennyRondix> !list
[05:02] <fritsch> HorizonXP: you can look with du -sh
[05:02] <fritsch> HorizonXP: if the size changes
[05:03] <Ravnac> So, does anyone know how or where I can fix my UI? :[
[05:03] <qin> lauratika: So compiz-decorator is not running?
[05:03] <ryty> DanaG, didn't work any better
[05:03] <DanaG> Ooh, gnome-shell has native wacom settings!
[05:03] <johndoe_> Ravnac: whats wrong with your ui?
[05:03] <reisio> DanaG: settings?
[05:03] <HorizonXP> fritsch: the size is changing, just more slowly than before. I fear that eventually, the transfer rate will become 0 and stop completely.
[05:04] <point_> what's the command to extract a .tar.bz2?
[05:04] <ryty> tar xvf <filename>
[05:04] <reisio> point_: -xjf
[05:04] <DanaG> Yeah, in gnome-control-center in oneiric.
[05:04] <DanaG> gnome-control-center: /usr/lib/control-center-1/panels/libwacom-properties.so
[05:04] <aperson> fritsch: fwiw, I pkill'd aptitude and it resumed it :(
[05:04] <DanaG> Wacom tablet PC.
[05:04] <point_> ryty, thanks
[05:04] <sap_> which virtual software i can use in Ubuntu to install MAC- snow leopard10.6
[05:04] <Ravnac> I installed Ubuntu 11.10, then decided Kubunto looked better and installed it via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and removed the ubuntu one. Now my UI's quite clear and has no real UI (like this: http://i.imgur.com/obqk4.png)
[05:04] <DanaG> Too bad this system I got secondhand is pen-only.  :(
[05:04] <Ravnac> johndoe_:
[05:04] <DanaG> Pen-only is like the worst of both worlds.
[05:04] <reisio> sap_: probably any
[05:04] <lauratika> qin: if i type compiz-decorator decorations /usr/bin/unity-window-decorator: Ignoring unknown or already-used button name "menu "
[05:05] <sap_> reisio is vmware deals with ubuntu well? or not
[05:05] <reisio> sap_: well enough
[05:06] <sap_> reisio do u know about the Osirix software
[05:06] <phiscibe> Ravnac: what does alt+f2 do, it should open krunner or whater it is calle
[05:06] <phiscibe> Ravnac: what does alt+f2 do, it should open krunner or whater it is called
[05:06] <qin> lauratika: in "command" field (ccsm, windows decor), you can set preffered decorator, but dunno how it will react in Oneiric...
[05:06] <reisio> sap_: what about it
[05:07] <arghx> sap_: ask your real question
[05:07] <phiscibe> you may be missing the plasma parts
[05:07] <Ravnac> phiscibe: ALT F2 does nothing.
[05:07] <phiscibe> can you right click and get a menu, with add panel, default panel
[05:07] <sap_> I want to install Osirix but its not installing in ubuntu
[05:07] <fritsch> HorizonXP: so wait and see :-)
[05:07] <arghx> !errors | sap
[05:07] <fritsch> aperson: mmh, i think it did not get killed
[05:08] <reisio> sap_: it's not really designed to
[05:08] <sap_> ok
[05:09] <reisio> sap_: don't see why it wouldn't work in Mac OS in a VM, though
[05:09] <aperson> fritsch: after I pkill'd it, the window went back to normal and I resumed what I was doing
[05:09] <HorizonXP> fritsch: well, it's probably going to take all weekend. it's my work computer, so here's hoping the power doesn't cut out.
[05:10] <Ravnac> phiscibe: Right Click just shows me "Create New Folder", "Create New Docment" and so on
[05:10] <phiscibe> you have some odd mix of desktops with missing comonents or something
[05:10] <DanaG> gnome-shell works quite well on a 915gm, once you force it to use Intel instead of fbdev.
[05:10] <sap_> reisio it works on MAX OS in VM but only problem is with CT's they won't play properly Osirix is a open source PACS
[05:10] <Ravnac> phiscibe: Yes, looks like that :[
[05:11] <D_Russ> anyone know a command to reset application to default settings? qbittorrent?
[05:11] <arghx> sap_: if you don't paste the actual problems you have installing osirix, no one can help you with it
[05:11] <reisio> sap_: only problem is what?
[05:11] <phiscibe> OsiriX 3.9 and higher requires MacOS 10.6 or higher
[05:12] <aperson> D_Russ: delete its configuration in your home folder
[05:12] <reisio> D_Russ: ls -a ~/ | grep -i tor
[05:12] <D_Russ> how do i find it
[05:12] <Ravnac> Any1 know a way to create a bootable USB-Stick if you only have access to the console and usb-creator doesn't work? :(
[05:12] <lauratika> qin: got disconected
[05:13] <aperson> Ravnac: I'm not entirely sure, but unetbootin might have a command line mode
[05:13] <yagoo> Ravnac, what do u mean?
[05:13] <pooltable> help how to installed install-crossover-games-demo-10.1.1.bin
[05:13] <phiscibe> sap_:  OsiriX is for macs, try Aeskulap - DICOM Viewer
[05:13] <D_Russ> aperson, cant find the config file
[05:13] <arghx> pooltable: try sudo sh install-crossover-games-demo-10.1.1.bin
[05:13] <pooltable> who has 11.10 installed is there a way to turn off ubity?
[05:13] <arghx> !tell Ravnac about doesn't work
[05:13] <sap_> it get crash when i remotely login to MAC system when i click on CT's it gets crash
[05:14] <arghx> !nounity > pooltable
[05:14] <reisio> sap_: inside VMware?
[05:14] <sap_> phiscibe is Aeskulap is also a open pacs
[05:14] <D_Russ> reisio, thats the command for qbittorrent
[05:14] <yagoo> i'd like to know about ravnac's question-- is there such a tool?
[05:14] <sap_> reisio yes inside vmware
[05:14] <reisio> D_Russ: ?
[05:15] <D_Russ> the command you gave me
[05:15] <reisio> sap_: what sort of processor/ram does the host OS have?
[05:15] <D_Russ> that will reset its settings
[05:15] <reisio> D_Russ: no, that'll tell you where the config dir is, unless it's in ~/.config/
[05:15] <phiscibe> Ravnac: if you add the kde workspaces you might get a tray or something
[05:15] <D_Russ> ohh ok
[05:15] <sap_> I5, 2TB, 6GB ddr3
[05:15] <pooltable> arghx sh: Can't open install-crossover-games-demo-10.1.1.bin
[05:15] <reisio> tradition would be ~/.qbittorrent/ or ~/.qbittorrentrc or ~/.config/qbittorrent/
[05:15] <Ravnac> phiscibe: How do I do that?
[05:15] <arghx> D_Russ: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/qbittorrent/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions_%28FAQ%29#Where_does_qBittorrent_save_its_settings.3F
[05:16] <D_Russ> it came back with .bash_history
[05:16] <reisio> D_Russ: right, because hisTORy
[05:16] <arghx> D_Russ: found with a simple: http://www.google.com/search?q=qbitorrent+config+file
[05:16] <Ravnac> I installed usb-creator via "sudo apt-get install usb-creator (kde and gtk) and the command, "usb-creator" just responds with "command not found"
[05:16] <D_Russ> thanks arghx
[05:16] <reisio> Ravnac: sudo usb-creator?
[05:17] <Ravnac> Same result
[05:17] <reisio> Ravnac: dpkg -L usb-creator
[05:17] <kfizz> Is there anyway to get old panel applets (like processor temp, processor load, etc.) in gnome 3. I know 3.0 and 2.0 are a little different, but I miss my panel applets.
[05:17] <reisio> Ravnac: dpkg -L usb-creator | grep bin
[05:17] <ghostnik11> hi can thunderbird's calender be integrated into ubuntu 11.10 gnome 3 calender on the desktop b/c when i click on it, it says evolution command not found
[05:17] <phiscibe> look in the package manager for kdebase-workspace, not sure what it might be called in 11.10, but maybe you want to go the other way and fix the missing unity stuff
[05:17] <yagoo> Ravnac, thought u said something about unetbootin
[05:17] <Ravnac> yagoo: no :(
[05:17]  * frull hallo
[05:18] <reisio> hi
[05:18] <ghostnik11> the one where you know the day of the week and the clock and u click on it and calender comes down, well can thunderbird calender be integrated into that or no?
[05:18]  * frull : am need make auth my  ubuntu vid tutorial how can i do that ?
[05:18] <arghx> frull: "make auth"?
[05:18] <reisio> ghostnik11: I'd be surprised if thunderbird came with such a feature, but you might be able to find an addon/script
[05:19] <phiscibe> ghostnik11: that is some type of widget or something
[05:19] <frull> arghx, make authentication, like copy right my video
[05:20] <keith-linux1122> how secure is ubuntu1
[05:20] <arghx> !id | frull
[05:20] <frull> arghx, am used ubuntu 11.04 and need make authentication my vid tutorial,
[05:20] <ghostnik11> reisio: thanks, thats very disappointing; phiscibe: no its not its the where the clock is you click on it and it comes down when i go to calender in the drop down and click on it, it talks about the evolution program, how can it be a widget but its built in?
[05:20] <phiscibe> keith-linux1122: depends on how stoopid the user is
[05:20] <frull> arghx, no body on ubuntu indonesia brotha.
[05:20] <arghx> frull: and ubuntu doesn't have software for DRM
[05:21] <frull> arghx, DRM ?
[05:21] <arghx> Ravnac: can you pastebin the output of the command reisio gave you?
[05:21] <arghx> frull: digital restriction management
[05:21] <almoxarife1> ghostnik11: yes, you can, but I believe 'evolution' will be the calendar that comes up, but you may be able to sync google to evolution calender
[05:21] <reisio> ghostnik11: you know you don't have to use thunderbird just because Ubuntu switched to using it by default
[05:21] <Ravnac> arghx: The command-prompt is "usb-creator-kde" - it worked now. Thanks.
[05:21] <arghx> keith-linux1122: nonsensical question
[05:21] <frull> arghx, what you ide for that
[05:22] <Ravnac> And not "usb-creator" as stated on kubuntu.org
[05:22] <phiscibe> the things that are built in are parts, widgets can be parts, i have not been using the gnome interface im using kde so i can answer you specificly ghostnik11, but i can say that calder programs can have their own data, use ical or a type of web dav, if the program is complaining about evolution , look to see if evolution is installed, evolution is  mail program like outlook with i think calender functions,
[05:22] <frull> arghx, i mean, did people know i make the vid tutorial with ubuntu, if i used drm
[05:22] <arghx> frull: "ide" is no sensical word in this context. try again please
[05:22] <frull> arghx, hhahahah
[05:22] <reisio> keith-linux1122: encrypt your data befora backing up to it and it's sure to be secure
[05:23] <phiscibe> ghostnik11: you can always find the program you were used to and add it back
[05:23] <frull> arghx, the simple thinks is am need make authentication my video with ubuntu. just like that like
[05:23] <reisio> frull: watermark?
[05:24] <daniel__> i have a problem connecting my samsung galaxy, says device could not be locked
[05:24] <daniel__> any ideas? is there a lock somewhere i should delete
[05:24] <frull> reisio, watermak not good ide, because watermark used for pic not on vid
[05:24] <yagoo> daniel__, wtf is a samsung galaxy? There's a google devices out there.
[05:24] <ghostnik11> phiscibe: thanks will just uninstall thunderbird and install evolution like you guys suggested, almoxarife1: will definetly do that just felt that there was a reason ubuntu team would take it out b/c they felt thunderbird was better or more advance meaning it would be good for everyone, reisio
[05:24] <phiscibe> daniel can u see terminal output, does it complain about dbus or something when u plug  it up
[05:25] <reisio> frull: what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:25] <arghx> daniel__: does it connect as a mass storage device? and what is the actual error?
[05:25] <SetiAmon> so in everyones experience,are you having a lot of problems with 11.10
[05:25] <SetiAmon> oinic
[05:25] <arghx> !poll | SetiAmon
[05:25] <daniel__> no phiscibe, it recognises it and asks what to do...open in folder, etc
[05:25] <daniel__> it complains when i open it
[05:25] <reisio> ghostnik11: I can only imagine it has something to do with their Mac OS style scheme
[05:26] <almoxarife1> ghostnik11: you may be able to use thunderbird too, I am not saying it can't be done, best thing to do is try, if it does not work, then you know
[05:26] <qmanjr5> How do I check how much RAM I have?
[05:26] <SetiAmon> not really a poll i'm just wondering if many others are experiencing problems
[05:26] <reisio> Evolution is a much larger more comprehensive application, and is GNOME's default mail client (not that Ubuntu is big on default GNOME anymore)
[05:26] <SetiAmon> particularly sound issues
[05:26] <reisio> qmanjr5: free -m, top, htop, lshw
[05:26] <almoxarife1> reisio: is there a gui for that?
[05:27] <reisio> almoxarife1: checking RAM?  Probably
[05:27] <reisio> but I don't use GNOME
[05:27] <qmanjr5> Jesus H. Christ...why is WINE taking so much memory. ._.
[05:27] <yagoo> daniel__, maybe the jmicro mod needs to be loaded (check with -> lsmod|grep -i jmic)
[05:27] <reisio> 'Wine'
[05:27] <reisio> probably because the app you're trying to use via it is poorly made
[05:27] <qmanjr5> Sorry.
[05:27] <kfizz> Is there anyway to get old panel applets (like processor temp, processor load, etc.) in gnome 3. I know 3.0 and 2.0 are a little different, but I miss my panel applets.
[05:27] <almoxarife1> reisio: in ubuntu?
[05:27] <reisio> almoxarife1: ?
[05:27] <qmanjr5> I'm using Steam, reisio :P
[05:27] <Zypeh> hi
[05:27] <reisio> kfizz: gnome-panel, probably
[05:27] <arghx> qmanjr5: lshw | less is one way. ls -l /proc/kcore is another
[05:27] <daniel__> yagoo: yeah, no output
[05:27] <reisio> qmanjr5: steam is the very definition of poorly made :p
[05:28] <frull> am have vid tutorial for usued linux ubuntu, and am need to share it with my authentication on vid because i am not need any body change or modifi that vid tutorial
[05:28] <arghx> qmanjr5: or "free"
[05:28] <qmanjr5> how else am I gunna play CS? :(
[05:28] <reisio> frull: there is no way to prevent people from modifying a video you let them see
[05:28] <reisio> frull: the best you can do is watermark it
[05:28] <ghostnik11> almoxarife1, well i did try and looked for the addon for the integration with gnome 3 but its not there, reisio, wow i thought they only removed things because it was actually beneficial but i see your point the look of mac they might be thinking are more appealing to new people who are coming from mac to ubuntu
[05:28] <almoxarife1> gnome-system-monitor
[05:28] <kfizz> reisio, I mean is there a way to add applets to the now-title bar?
[05:28] <arghx> frull: what you want to do is not possible
[05:29] <yagoo> daniel__, maybe "modprobe pata_jmicron" will do the trick -- unmount (then unplug), then replug..
[05:29] <stevecam> is there a documented method for streaming my sound to a a link i can share on my LAN
[05:29] <reisio> ghostnik11: my best guess... Evolution is after all pretty much an Outlook clone
[05:29] <reisio> ghostnik11: we have a Mac user at work who hates it, prefers Thunderbird
[05:29] <arghx> stevecam: vlc has lots of documentation for example
[05:29] <almoxarife1> !gnome-system-monitor
[05:29] <reisio> kfizz: I'm sure there must be, sorry I don't have particulars; maybe search ubuntuforums.org
[05:29] <frull> arghx, why no possible, and reisio are watermark that good and can't modifying my video
[05:30] <kfizz> reisio, thanks. I've been search with no luck. It appears there's no way to do so.
[05:30] <reisio> frull: because anything a person can see and hear, a person can copy
[05:30] <arghx> frull: there is no way you can prevent people from modifying your video. if they can watch it, they can modify it.
[05:30] <reisio> frull: there is physically nothing you can do that will work 100% of the time
[05:30] <yagoo> reisio, especially me.. I have a chip implanted in my brain
[05:30] <stevecam> arghx, i want to route audio on my machine into a streaming media file
[05:30] <reisio> kfizz: I'm sure there must be, sorry I don't have particulars; maybe search ubuntuforums.org
[05:30] <daniel__> arghx: actually, now i get the dbus error
[05:30] <reisio> yagoo: yeah I almost mentioned you
[05:30] <phiscibe> ghostnik11: could the old program be called Rainlendar ro sunbird
[05:30] <yagoo> mwahaha
[05:30] <frull> people can copy my vid but dot modify my video
[05:30] <daniel__> phiscibe: sorry
[05:31] <daniel__> ^^
[05:31] <reisio> frull: they can do anything they like to it
[05:31] <reisio> frull: with enough knowledge
[05:31] <vantik> where is the channel for Ubuntu app developers?
[05:31] <reisio> frull: I can't say it's going to be that likely, though
[05:31] <reisio> I'm not aware of any popularity in ripping off tutorial videos...
[05:31] <reisio> vantik: what's an Ubuntu app?
[05:31] <arghx> reisio: you haven't seen well made tutorials like frull's then!
[05:31] <yagoo> daniel__, what happens when u do-> fdisk -l? (do u see 1 device or 2 devices related to the samsung galaxy?)
[05:31] <frull> reisio, that you mean no original vid on internet
[05:32] <reisio> arghx: maybe I haven't been to Indonesia :p
[05:32] <reisio> arghx: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/World_Map_Index_of_perception_of_corruption_2010.svg/800px-World_Map_Index_of_perception_of_corruption_2010.svg.png
[05:32] <phiscibe>      daniel__ no clue about the samsung with out an derror message
[05:32] <vantik> is this a basic channel for ubuntu users?
[05:32] <frull> arghx, what you mean brotha ?
[05:32] <yagoo> vantik, check the topic
[05:32] <reisio> vantik: uhuh
[05:33] <devinus> is creating an ext2 /boot partition still required in 11.10 if you want to use btrfs ?
[05:33] <phiscibe> vantik: yes more or less a supoort channel, with the support being provided by you
[05:33] <phiscibe> well me too
[05:33] <phiscibe> and him
[05:33] <reisio> devinus: by the installer?
[05:33] <The_BROS> How to change Empathy to Pidgin with build into panel?
[05:33] <reisio> devinus: dunno, it's not required in general
[05:33] <vantik> nevermind, thx
[05:33] <reisio> devinus: worst case you setup your partitions beforehand
[05:33] <ghostnik11> almoxarife1, well anyway its too late i am already uninstalled thunderbird, it was okay, reisio: i just feel evolution is more versatile when it comes to integration with google calender and address book, just not as hot looking as other calender programs with all the nice graphical designs, phiscibe: no the calender in thunderbird is lighting, evolution programs calender is built in and not an add on like thunderbird's
[05:33] <devinus> reisio: by the installer yeah
[05:33] <JZApples> how do i import my email from evolution to thunderbird?  i can't find any good documentation online that isn't really old or doesn't work.
[05:34] <yagoo> devinus, i beleive its supported for the latest kernels.. but as for grub2? i have no clue.. (check grub2's doc-- maybe wikipedia)
[05:34] <daniel__> yagoo: 1
[05:34] <phiscibe> t hunder bird i thought does not have a calendar, it used a sunbird plugin called lightning
[05:34] <frull> arghx, reisio am need distribution all my vid tutorial (how used ubuntu for education) for free and am not need any body modify my tutorial of it, that am need make some vid authentication.
[05:34] <phiscibe> evolution is a mail client, but i think is has a calendar
[05:34] <yagoo> daniel__, u tried another port? (changed to another cable-- sometimes the problem is the cable is too long)
[05:35] <reisio> JZApples: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_and_exporting_your_mail might help
[05:35] <frull> the content of authentication is 1. am used ubuntu for make vid 2. my pc name 3. copy right, 4 my location just that
[05:35] <arghx> frull: you may need whatever you want but you cannot prevent people from copying. bluray cost millions of dollars to make and there are tons of bluray rips for every single movie out there on the internet.
[05:35] <reisio> ghostnik11: it's a much more comprehensive application
[05:35] <reisio> thunderbird is extensible, but if there's not already an applet for what you want, I don't see a problem continuing to use Evolution
[05:35] <daniel__> yagoo: i seem to get the dbus error on one port and the could not lock device on the other
[05:36] <daniel__> let me try the third
[05:36] <JZApples> reisio, i already read through all that, the thunderbird import isn't detecting evolution
[05:36] <devinus> yagoo, yeah, wondering if it's supported for grub2
[05:36] <ghostnik11> jzapples: i think you have to first go to evolution and export then it should give you like a file thing that when you go to thunderbird and go to import you search on that file that represents your mail history in evolution
[05:36] <devinus> or if the installer even allows it...
[05:36] <reisio> JZApples: that's pretty sad
[05:36] <yagoo> devinus, i'm not sure if this project was absorbed into grub2.. maybe u'd like to ask on #grub (  https://launchpad.net/btrfs-grub2  )
[05:36] <daniel__> nope dbus
[05:36] <reisio> JZApples: I guess I'll mention to you also: you can keep using Evolution if you want to
[05:36] <JZApples> ghostnik11, by export, do you mean select all the email messages and goto File > Save as mbox...?
[05:36] <yagoo> devinus, possibly that site offers a btrfs module (yes grub2 has its own internal module system)
[05:37] <phiscibe> where is your mail  JZApples, that is where does the evolution program get it from , what email server
[05:37] <JZApples> reisio, i know you can, i've wanted to switch for awhile
[05:37] <phiscibe> if its a imap email server you dont need to export or import
[05:37] <reisio> devinus: GRUB2 boots btrfs just fine without a /boot/ partition
[05:37] <JZApples> reisio, wish they would have included thunderbird with 11.04
[05:37] <yagoo> reisio, thanks
[05:37] <reisio> JZApples: k
[05:37] <ghostnik11> jzapples: well are you using a major email provider like google? b/c if thats the case you might not have to import it to thunderbird and can just input your info and it will get mail off the server
[05:37] <JZApples> phiscibe, hotmail, and it deleted them all after it downloaded the first time
[05:38] <frull> yes arghx people can copying but can't modify my vid, am distribution for free am not need any body modify, modify my vid
[05:38] <devinus> reisio: damn...i should reinstall now then -.-
[05:38] <reisio> devinus: oh? :p
[05:38] <phiscibe> JZApples: if you log in to hotmail via a web interface are you messages still there?
[05:38] <devinus> okay be back in two hours!
[05:38] <JZApples> ghostnik11, i wish, i must have had evolution configured wrong the first time i got them off my hotmail account and it removed them all after it imported
[05:38] <reisio> devinus: 1min
[05:38] <JZApples> phiscibe, no.
[05:38] <almoxarife> phiscibe: yes
[05:38] <yagoo> devinus, btrfs looks like a fs i'd like to try.. it has snapshots and the sort..
[05:38] <reisio> devinus: you might want to make your first (/ ?) partition start a little farther in than usual
[05:38] <devinus> yagoo, yeah, i'm testing it out
[05:39] <phiscibe> JZApples: are you useing hot mail as a pop3 server?
[05:39] <devinus> reisio, interesting
[05:39] <reisio> devinus: GRUB2's core.img including btrfs support, IME, makes it quite large
[05:39] <reisio> like more than 13kB
[05:39] <yagoo> devinus, in fact one of the ext4 developers condones and says its a way forward for linux filesystems..
[05:39] <JZApples> phiscibe, ghostnik11, leave messages on server got unchecked
[05:39] <reisio> devinus: possibly varies by distro though, just something to keep in mind
[05:39] <jaybutts> my unity broke,how can i just get a normal taskbar and get rid of the stupid mac crap at the top ? :)
[05:39] <JZApples> phiscibe, yes pop3
[05:39] <devinus> okay i'll keep that in mind then
[05:39] <yagoo> devinus, so i believe its a very stable filesystem
[05:39] <reisio> it's not very stable
[05:40] <reisio> but it will be
[05:40] <yagoo> oh ok
[05:40] <ghostnik11> jzapples: wow, and there all gone
[05:40] <reisio> stable enough to play with now, though
[05:40] <devinus> it's super fast on my system
[05:40] <JZApples> ghostni
[05:40] <Stanley00> jaybutts: then, it's not normal unity ;)
[05:40] <reisio> I wouldn't fill it with your only copies of your favorite files
[05:40] <JZApples> ghostnik11, yup it was a major bummer at the time
[05:40] <BlackWeb> Does anyone know of a program that can mount .daa format
[05:40] <devinus> i just have a 2TB hdd
[05:40] <reisio> but I wouldn't do that with any FS
[05:40] <phiscibe> JZApples: ok then they are gone, but you might can send hotmail a message and they can restore them, its not uncommon, next SWITCH TO  IMAP  as the protocol then any client you use, will see you data and not delete it, you can use evoluiton thunder bird outlook claws all the same time
[05:40] <yagoo> BlackWeb, poweriso makes a linux mount tool or maybe module..
[05:40] <reisio> BlackWeb: convert with daa2iso first
[05:41] <yagoo> BlackWeb, yah.. and that too (if the converter doesn't do the job 100%)
[05:41]  * yagoo hates proprietary compressions
[05:41] <reisio> agreed
[05:41] <BlackWeb> alright, ya checking to see what would be the best way to do it, right now then moved the file to a Network windows machine used poweriso to convert to iso, but I'll look into poweriso for linux
[05:42] <BlackWeb> Thanks guys :)
[05:42] <yagoo> BlackWeb, np
[05:42] <reisio> BlackWeb: apt-get install daa2iso :p
[05:42] <BlackWeb> :)
[05:43] <JZApples> phiscibe, i still have them setup with evolution.  i want to move that data into thunderbird.  what do you mean switch to imap?
[05:43] <yagoo> anyone here use xar instead of tar?
[05:43] <phiscibe> OOHH JZApples i thought they were totaly wiped
[05:43] <reisio> yagoo: why would anyone
[05:44] <yagoo> dunno.. but i read a while xar is the way to go from some folks..
[05:44] <JZApples> phiscibe, no, luckily i still have them on my computer, but want to ensure that they don't get removed
[05:44] <yagoo> (i read about it on wikipedia)
[05:44] <yagoo> (and fiddled around with it-- the syntax is much simpler than tar)
[05:44] <reisio> tar's syntax is already pretty simple
[05:45] <reisio> -c, -t, -x, that's the same as tar
[05:45] <JZApples> phiscibe, and i'd rather use thunderbird
[05:46] <yagoo> strange it's not in ubuntu when i searched it-- i believe i had it on debian..
[05:46] <yagoo> nways..
[05:46] <almoxarife> is there a gui for 'tar' file's?
[05:46] <daniel__> any more ideas on my usb connection error? select another viewer and try again, dbus error, could not lock device
[05:46] <reisio> almoxarife: yes, nautilus has built in support I'm sure
[05:47] <hansg01> help me restore grub
[05:47] <reisio> nautilus/gnome
[05:47] <freeride> yeah, i'm here again
[05:47] <reisio> so you are
[05:47] <yagoo> not sure.. i believe u can omit the options when creating one.. but nways...
[05:47] <yagoo> (did it a while ago)
[05:48] <reisio> it looks sort of like man vs info
[05:48] <reisio> I just don't use info, man already does what I need
[05:48] <yagoo> hansg01, u must of done something totally wrong if u broke grub.. why u break it man?
[05:48] <yagoo> lol
[05:49] <yagoo> almostroot, ark is one gui..
[05:49] <yagoo> almoxarife, ^.
[05:49] <Calinou> since I moved my files from a external HDD to my home here, I'm not the owner of them anymore
[05:49] <Calinou> how can I make myself owner of them?
[05:49] <daniel__> nvm, just have to set it in usb storage mode
[05:49] <daniel__> not sure why
[05:49] <reisio> Calinou: should've used cp -p or cp -a
[05:49]  * yagoo says to find software onthe net for linux-- google: "List of <software type> site:wikipedia.org"
[05:49] <reisio> Calinou: but, chown can fix it
[05:50] <Calinou> used a GUI -_-
[05:50] <Calinou> ok
[05:50]  * yagoo eg: List of archivers for linux site:wikipedia.org
[05:50] <Calinou> how to fix it using chown?
[05:50] <reisio> Calinou: that'll bone you every time :p
[05:50] <almoxarife> Calinou: use nautilus to change the permissions, save yourself the hassle
[05:50] <Calinou> owner is root
[05:50] <reisio> Calinou: sudo chown -R user:user path/to/dir/
[05:50] <Calinou> "you are not the owner"
[05:50] <Calinou> ok
[05:50] <hansg01> yagoo: i dnt knw why i did this i mean i regret
[05:50] <Calinou> user:user = calinou:calinou?
[05:51] <Calinou> since my username is calinou
[05:51] <reisio> Calinou: yes
[05:51] <Calinou> ok
[05:51] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <reisio> Calinou: ls ~/ to see what your ordinary user files' user:group perms are
[05:51] <hansg01> yagoo: nw is there ne way to get back the grub menu
[05:51] <almoxarife> Calinou: there is a extention to allow you to work in nautilus as root, so root changes the permissions to you ? too easy?
[05:51] <yagoo> hansg01, you have to explain what you did to break it, so that one has an idea what to do
[05:51] <Calinou> oh
[05:51] <kamilnadeem> Peace Be With You All
[05:52] <kamilnadeem> is there a way to install Ubuntu 11.10 but not grub
[05:52] <danno> Question: Where is the grub by default /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[05:52] <danno> ?
[05:52] <arghx> danno: sda
[05:52] <danno> thanks arghx
[05:52] <Calinou> done
[05:52] <kamilnadeem> I have installed chakra and it has burg , I want to use that only
[05:52] <Calinou> now the owner thanks :)
[05:52] <freeride> danno ususaly dev/sda
[05:52] <ghostnik11> if i use imap+/imapx over imap, will imap+ match what ever i do to my email in my client be recorded on my email server at google
[05:52] <hansg01> i was using ubuntu bootloader then i installed fedora and nw no boot menu and fedora boots directly
[05:53] <yagoo> kamilnadeem, if u dont install grub, u wont be able to BOOT UBUNTU
[05:53] <reisio> kamilnadeem: the installer should give you the option to not install GRUB
[05:53] <danno> thanks freeride.
[05:53] <reisio> hansg01: you'll want to edit Fedora's GRUB config, then
[05:53] <kamilnadeem> yagoo not so , I will update burg from chakra and ubuntu will come up
[05:53] <yagoo> kamilnadeem, u can install grub in linux's partition if u want to keep ur other primary bootloader
[05:53] <danno> take it easy freeride. Ha. You probably get that all the time
[05:53] <freeride> danno or if you have more than 1 hard disk it can be /dev/sda /dev/sdb/
[05:53] <reisio> hansg01: or re-install GRUB to the MBR to point at Ubuntu's GRUB config (and edit it to add Fedora)
[05:53] <reisio> hansg01: but why are you even dual booting with Linux
[05:54] <danno> freeride: no it was just the one drive on a Lemur Thin from Sys76
[05:54] <hansg01> reisio: haan how to reinstall grub i thnks thats easy or edit fedora grub
[05:54] <danno> freeride: just had a brain fart. I didn't want to select the wrong one.
[05:54] <freeride> danno just trying to help
[05:54] <kamilnadeem> I have 3 distro, currenlty on my 160gb hd. Bodhi Linux and pardus on primary partition and chakra on logical
[05:54] <kamilnadeem> will remove pardus
[05:55] <jaybutts> how do i make the theme blue instead of orange
[05:55] <danno> freeride: I appreciate it too! ;) Without good people like you helping me out, I'd have hours more work.
[05:55] <yagoo> kamilnadeem, and u will install ubuntu rriiiiiggghhttt ?
[05:55] <reisio> hansg01: probably /boot/grub/grub.conf
[05:55] <freeride> can anyone help me with folders permission?
[05:55] <yagoo> !ask
[05:55] <jaybutts> yep chmod -R 777 *
[05:55] <Calinou> jaybutts: NO
[05:56] <jaybutts> lol
[05:56] <Calinou> THAT KILLED MY SYSTEM LAST CASE
[05:56] <kamilnadeem> yes yagoo I have Ubuntu 11.10 on my main 1tb hg just want to install on the 160gb hd to try out gnome shell
[05:56] <Calinou> SO DO NOT DO IT
[05:56] <yagoo> jaybutts, not good practice.
[05:56] <FloodBot1> Calinou: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <Calinou> (sorry for caps, felt that was really needed)
[05:56] <freeride> ;D yeah
[05:56] <reisio> floodbot seems a little sensitive
[05:56] <yagoo> kamilnadeem, if u like to try out many different distros.. and then delete them soon after.. i simply use vmware or virtualbox :)
[05:56] <Luci4n0> Calinou: you really did that on your system?
[05:57] <reisio> kamilnadeem: or better: kvm/virt-manager or virtualbox
[05:57] <hansg01> reisio:i got this file earlier too but how to edit this?
[05:57] <Goremaniaco> saludos desde mexico ;)
[05:57] <reisio> hansg01: with a text editor
[05:57] <Calinou> Luci4n0: on usr bin ys
[05:57] <Calinou> yes*
[05:57] <djthree> donde puedo buscar un canal en español?
[05:57] <Calinou> I'm a linux noob, trying to install libraries
[05:57] <Calinou> blame jdolan
[05:57] <Calinou> !es | djthree
[05:57] <hansg01> reisio:i mean what all to insert?
[05:57] <kamilnadeem> yagoo pardus is an excellent distro but archaic in comparision to chakra what will i do with 2 kde distro
[05:57] <Luci4n0> Calinou: :)
[05:57] <reisio> hansg01: ah
[05:58] <jaybutts> do this and you never have permission problem again: cd / && chown -R 1000.1000 * && chmod 777 *
[05:58] <danno> My Ubuntu Oneric install got hosed earlier. I went into a prompt, did a sudo apt-get update, and told me to do a dpkg --reconfigure -a.  All is done and looks good, is a restart a good idea now?
[05:58] <llutz_> jaybutts: stop that nonsense
[05:58] <Calinou> eh... no.
[05:58] <hansg01> reisio:can i copy ubuntu one to this fedora one?
[05:58]  * yagoo thinks jaybutts is giving DANGEROUS ADVICE
[05:58]  * yagoo AND NEEDS TO STOP
[05:58] <Calinou> you shouldn't use chmod - think of it - those files are protected for a reason
[05:58] <reisio> hansg01: you know it might be simpler to re-install GRUB2 & tell it to look at your Ubuntu install's GRUB config than to figure out how to translate an Ubuntu GRUB2 config to a GRUB1 config :p
[05:58] <rama> Hello everyone. I m newbie to Ubuntu. anyone know how to create shotcuts on the dekstop ?
[05:58] <Calinou> the only legitimate reason to use it is to add +x to a executable program in your /home
[05:58] <kamilnadeem> use rescutax
[05:58] <reisio> hansg01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:58] <kamilnadeem> excellent option for recovering grub
[05:59] <reisio> rama: right-click?
[05:59] <jaybutts> well...and also 666 is sign of the devil so I go with 7's
[05:59] <Calinou> rama: just move the icons?
[05:59] <hansg01> reisio: i too thought reinstalling will be easier
[05:59] <duanzhang1314> hh
[05:59] <Luci4n0> use sudo for files that are not yours .. editing that is
[05:59] <rama> Hi resisio. thanks. I tried that, but didn't work in 11.1 version
[05:59] <reisio> it's only easier because the config syntax between GRUB1 and GRUB2 is massively different
[05:59] <KingSphinx> Got my font problem fixed; all I needed to do was reinstall the Cantarell font and GNOME Shell. Now if only I knew why Ubuntu Software Center won't prompt for my password...
[05:59] <danno> Repeat: My Ubuntu Oneric install got hosed earlier. I went into a prompt, did a sudo apt-get update, and told me to do a dpkg --reconfigure -a.  All is done and looks good, is a restart a good idea now?
[06:00] <reisio> danno: seems like a decent enough iea
[06:00] <reisio> idea*
[06:00] <ashok_shetty> i downloaded ubuntu 11.10 and saved it in USB drive ...now i want to install in my laptop can u plz tell me the procedure
[06:00] <danno> thx: reisio
[06:00] <reisio> danno: technically you only have to reboot for kernel updates, and even then not really
[06:00] <reisio> danno: but it _is_ a "simple" way to re-initiate parts of your system
[06:00] <Luci4n0> danno: if it looks good .. try it
[06:00] <reisio> ashok_shetty: did you copy it over, or did you image with unetbootin or usb-creator?
[06:01] <danno> thanks reisio, Luci4n0
[06:01] <reisio> ashok_shetty: because you need to do the latter
[06:01] <danno> looks like all is good
[06:01] <ex0> unetbootin is the best
[06:01] <ex0> IMO
[06:01] <reisio> works for me
[06:01] <ex0> controls multiple OS's
[06:02] <ashok_shetty> reisio: i just downloded it and copied to usb
[06:02] <ex0> usb-creator seems to be friendly with only select few os's mainly ubuntu...and ubuntu
[06:02] <reisio> ashok_shetty: okay, you're going to need to use unetbootin or the like to actually image it properly
[06:02] <tiox> Quick question: I already have Ubuntu installed, and for fear of stupidly overwriting the current installation, I came here to ask if it is possible to do a minimal install on a different device, like a USB flash drive.
[06:02] <alexiy> Good morning! I installed Xubuntu and accidentially made one kind of files (block device) in folder dev to always open by Abiword. How to undo this?
[06:02] <danno> Question, so one laptop has Ubuntu Oneric, and my master bad ass quad machine isn't update.  Should I do the update (and wait 5 hours for the upload), or create an Ubuntu Memstick and do it that way?
[06:02] <reisio> ashok_shetty: after that it's just like booting from a CD: put the usb stick in and make sure your BIOS can boot from it before the HD
[06:03] <reisio> tiox: what for?
[06:03] <yagoo> tiox, yah.. but don't install grub onto ur other internal drive.. u install grub to ur flash device..
[06:03] <tiox> Alex: Choose Open With for the file you are choosing, then it will show the recommended program, right click on it and choose to forget association.
[06:03] <anon_user> ashok_shetty, on the download page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[06:03] <Luci4n0> danno: which version is on that one?
[06:03] <reisio> danno: it shouldn't take five hours...
[06:03] <anon_user> step 2
[06:03] <ashok_shetty> reisio: what is unetbootin
[06:03] <tiox> reisio: Just for fun, really, but it'd come in handy as an emergency drive.
[06:03] <reisio> ashok_shetty: it's a program, for putting live "CD" images onto USB sticks
[06:04] <yagoo> tiox, and if u do use usb.. edit /etc/fstab and grub kernel bootlines to use "UUID"****
[06:04] <eruditehermit> hey, I just tried upgrading and it failed part way through. How do I make sure everything is working?
[06:04] <reisio> tiox: wouldn't putting the live image on a USB stick suffice?
[06:04] <llutz_> weren't ubuntu-iso supposed to be hybrid-iso beginning from oneiric? those can just be written to usb-sticks using cat or dd
[06:04] <reisio> Rudyard_Smith
[06:04] <arghx> eruditehermit: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:04] <tiox> You know, that's true. But I want to be able to keep settings persistiant.
[06:05] <tiox> persistent*
[06:05] <reisio> llutz_: you tell me
[06:05] <yagoo> llutz, is there a doc for that?
[06:05] <eruditehermit> arghx, that seems to be happy. Can I assume everything is ok then?
[06:05] <reisio> tiox: seems like a waste of time
[06:05] <reisio> tiox: unetbootin can make a persistent storage area, though, FWIW
[06:05]  * tiox shrugs
[06:06] <reisio> you know you can just tar up the system and store it away for a rainy day
[06:06] <ashok_shetty> reisio:i saved it in my pen drive its not booting while resrarting thr system
[06:06] <deusr> Guys, have just upgraded my netbook LG X140 a sister, was with ubuntu 4.11 and upgraded to 11.10. When I boot from the USB stick to install the new version, wireless connected, once installed, does not connect at all, he did not try to connect. It is this card: RTL8191SEvB
[06:06] <ashok_shetty> reisio:restarting
[06:06] <arghx> yes, oneiric is a hybrid image: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes?action=show&redirect=OneiricOcelot%2FTechnicalOverview#Hybrid_CD.2BAC8-USB_images_supported
[06:06] <reisio> ashok_shetty: try using unetbootin
[06:06] <ashok_shetty> reisio: wr can i find it
[06:06] <KingSphinx> Repeat: Got my font problem fixed; all I needed to do was reinstall the Cantarell font and GNOME Shell. Now if only I knew why Ubuntu Software Center won't prompt for my password...
[06:06] <arghx> eruditehermit: no. it depends on the actual error you got
[06:07] <llutz_> reisio: yagoo http://goo.gl/PrTxf
[06:07] <reisio> deusr: run lsmod and/or lspci -k from the live envo and copy the driver info
[06:07] <paul_> i has a question guys :P i have the nvidia driver but my audio isn't working :P i'm using HDMI audio in fact ubuntu doesn't show anything under the audio settings but alsamixer has my card
[06:07] <yagoo> llutz, is there a doc saying i can simply cat an .iso to the whole /dev/<usbdevice> somewhere?
[06:07] <arghx> eruditehermit: what kernel do you currently run?
[06:07] <freeride> help me with folder permissions. I've got a folder user www group www-data. I belong to group www-data, folder has write permission for group, but i can not create a foleder in it. Why?
[06:07] <reisio> ashok_shetty: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[06:07] <eruditehermit> arghx, flashplugin-downloader failed
[06:07] <reisio> paul_: sure the cable supports it?
[06:07] <arghx> eruditehermit: that's a very minor issue
[06:07] <yagoo> freeride, what's this, webdav?
[06:07] <paul_> yeah it was working fine on Arch
[06:07] <VxQe> Hi, where does empathy store it's account info?
[06:07] <reisio> its*
[06:08] <ex0> what does the parent folders properties have..?
[06:08] <eruditehermit> arghx, i know but it stopped the whole process. I'm not sure if it needed to do things after installing packages
[06:08] <alexiy> I right click on it but there is no "forget association", only "Remove launcher" and it's unavailable.
[06:08] <reisio> VxQe: probably in ~/.empathy or ~/.config/empathy/
[06:08] <llutz_> yagoo: if they really make hybrid-iso, you just "sudo cat foo.iso >/dev/sdX"
[06:08] <VxQe> Niether of those exist, resiio
[06:08] <eruditehermit> arghx, or if it didn't install some packages because it was interrupted
[06:08] <ashok_shetty>  reisio: cud not find the package is the error
[06:08] <anon_user> ashok_shetty, click the show me how button (step 2) here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download.  It details the procedure
[06:08] <reisio> VxQe: find ~/ -iname '*empathy*'
[06:08] <freeride> s mode +i freerid
[06:08] <freeride> help me with folder permissions. I've got a folder user www group www-data. I belong to group www-data, folder has write permission for group, but i can not create a foleder in it. Why?
[06:09] <VxQe> reisio, did that.
[06:09] <reisio> ashok_shetty: what os/distro are you using?
[06:09] <jamil_1> hi all, network manager is not working
[06:09] <yagoo> freeride, it's probably not even a folder permission.. maybe it's ur apache+itmodules setup
[06:09] <jamil_1> I have not internet connection
[06:09] <reisio> VxQe: ~/.mission-control/accounts/accounts.cfg
[06:09] <VxQe> Thank you.
[06:09] <reisio> VxQe: probably a grep -ir empathy ~/.* would've found it
[06:10] <paul_> if i put aplay -D plughw:2,7 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav in terminal it plays the audio but i can't figure out how to get ubuntu 11.10 to use that as my default audio card
[06:10] <deusr> reisio, http://pastebin.com/92LZSFCS
[06:10] <yagoo> jamil_1, u do have internet silly man! Look at you!!
[06:10] <yagoo> LOL
[06:10] <reisio> love this ~/.completely-unrelated-name trend :p
[06:10] <VxQe> reisio, thanks I'll try that next time if I remember.
[06:10] <ashok_shetty> reisio: its ubuntu 9.10
[06:10] <jamil_1> yagoo: hehe obviously I have internet on windows
[06:10] <reisio> deusr: "Kernel driver in use: rtl8192se"
[06:11] <reisio> deusr: make sure that's loaded on the installed system
[06:11] <jamil_1> yagoo: its not working on another pc
[06:11] <ashok_shetty> resio: now i want to upgrade it to 11.10
[06:11] <yagoo> jamil_1, and that other pc is on WINDOWS? LOL silly man!! Tell us the problem..
[06:11] <yagoo> jamil_1, does ifconfig -a .. work?
[06:11] <reisio> ashok_shetty: check for usb-creator, then
[06:12]  * yagoo will bb in a few min
[06:12] <boritek> hello. After upgrade I have metacity instead of compiz. After compiz --replace I have compiz but with 2 unity panel. How can I fix this??
[06:12] <jamil_1> yagoo: upgraded to 11.10 and not network connection
[06:12] <boritek> hello. After upgrade I have metacity instead of compiz. After compiz --replace I have compiz but with 2 unity side-panel. How can I fix this??
[06:12] <ashok_shetty> reisio: how to
[06:12] <jamil_1> *no
[06:12] <reisio> ashok_shetty: sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[06:12] <deusr> reisio, yes, it is :/ And as I said, when I boot with ubuntu 11.10 by stick, the wireless to connect, not connected.
[06:12] <reisio> deusr: the what?
[06:13] <freeride> help me with folder permissions. I've got a folder user www group www-data. I belong to group www-data, folder has write permission for group, but i can not create a foleder in it. Why?
[06:13] <reisio> freeride: because that's for root to decide
[06:13] <jamil_1> yagoo: and I have lot of entries in kern.log saying init: network-manager main process terminated with status 127
[06:13] <deusr> reisio, is installed and active but
[06:13] <ashok_shetty> reisio: cud not find the package is the error
[06:14] <freeride> reisio decide what?
[06:14] <Luci4n0> freeride: does a sudo in front of your mkdir not help?
[06:14] <reisio> ashok_shetty: usb-creator-gtk
[06:14] <homeslice-pdx> okay, I'm on 11.10 and it seems a little rough this time but I made it
[06:14] <deusr> reisio, said that when I plug the USB stick with Ubuntu 11.10 wireless works.
[06:14] <freeride> Luci4n0 well it does byt it does not make sens
[06:14] <reisio> freeride: whether a dir should be made there
[06:14] <Luci4n0> freeride: i agree
[06:14] <reisio> deusr: yes you said already
[06:15] <jamil_1> yagoo: ifconfig -a show eth0 and lo
[06:15] <freeride> folder has write permissions for group users. why user from this froup cannot change it?
[06:15] <jamil_1> yagoo: but I have wireless here
[06:15] <deusr> reisio, any ideas?
[06:15] <ashok_shetty> reisio: hey sorry got it usb creato
[06:15] <ashok_shetty> reisio: its installing
[06:16] <chandan> hi everybody. how do I create a .pem file from ppm file ?
[06:16] <boritek> hello. After upgrade I have metacity instead of compiz. After compiz --replace I have compiz but with 2 unity side-panel. How can I fix this??
[06:16] <reisio> chandan: ppm?
[06:17] <yagoo> jamil_1, so you know the SSID of your ap ?
[06:17] <chandan> yes .ppm file reisio
[06:17] <freeride> any more ideas for folderpermissions?
[06:17] <llutz_> freeride: does "id" list "www-data" for you? did you re-login after adding you to that group?
[06:17] <reisio> chandan: what is a ppm file
[06:17] <jamil_1> yagoo: name of the connection ?
[06:17] <jamil_1> yagoo: I guess so
[06:17] <freeride> llutz_ yes it does,. when i type id it lists in my groups
[06:18] <yagoo> jamil_1, is ur ap already set up?
[06:18] <chandan> reisio, it is the file sent to me by the administrator to me which he says helps in login to aws console
[06:18] <Luci4n0> freeride: weird
[06:18] <reisio> chandan: ah
[06:18] <chandan> but the console is asking .pem file. eg: ssh -i somesthing.pem placetoconnect.com reisio
[06:18] <jamil_1> yagoo: ap ?
[06:18] <llutz_> freeride: what are the permissions of the parent-dir you try to create a new dir in? ls -ld path/dir
[06:18] <freeride> llutz_ well i didnt relogin after adding myself to this group
[06:19] <yagoo> jamil_1, what kind of wireless device is this?
[06:19] <freeride> i'll try
[06:19] <yagoo> jamil_1, wifi, 3g ?
[06:19] <llutz_> freeride: re-login is required
[06:19] <chandan> reisio, I know that .pem file can be extracted from .ppm file.. but  i don't know how
[06:19] <jamil_1> yagoo: wifi modem
[06:19] <reisio> chandan: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=63739
[06:19] <yagoo> jamil_1, wifi modem?
[06:19] <freeride> llutz_ parent dir has write permission for group
[06:19] <yagoo> jamil_1, and where is it connecting to? (people don't say wifi modem.. they simply say wifi)
[06:20] <llutz_> freeride: logout, login, try again pls
[06:20] <freeride> llutz_  drwxrwxr-x
[06:20] <freeride> llutz_ ok. thanks
[06:20] <whereami> I just upgraded to oneiric... why does the workspace keep switching? it seems to be in response to moving my mouse in some way near the edge of the screen, but I can't do it on purpose.
[06:20] <jamil_1> yagoo: ok wifi...
[06:20] <chandan> reisio, that doesn't help :(
[06:20] <reisio> whereami: if you move it fast into a corner?
[06:20] <Dagmar> Just a quick sanity check...  Ubuntu didn't start using a /run directory did it?
[06:21] <reisio> chandan: it's an AWS issue
[06:21] <jamil_1> yagoo: to my isp
[06:21] <Dagmar> My netbook seems to have suddenly developed one during the upgrade
[06:21] <hansg01> reisio: thanx man boot-repair worked for me too :)
[06:21] <chandan> reisio, hmm
[06:21] <jamil_1> yagoo: I cannot connect from my pc to the modem
[06:21] <reisio> hansg01: gj
[06:21] <Lafiir> Did GStreamer change in 11.10? I can no longer view .mp4 files in Totem or get thumbnails in Nautilus.
[06:21] <Dagmar> It looks like something put everything in /run instead of /var/run, I just wanna make sure I shouold be checking for dupes
[06:21] <hansg01> reisio: got the ubuntu bootloader back phew!
[06:21] <yagoo> jamil_1, u need to buy a home router .. like wireless linksys to sit between ur isp and your home network
[06:21] <hansg01> reisio: learnt something new
[06:21] <reisio> Lafiir: maybe you have to reinstall the restricted stuff?
[06:22] <whereami> reisio, doesn't seem to make a difference.
[06:22] <reisio> hansg01: and it automagically listed Fedora, right?
[06:22] <jamil_1> yagoo: I do have one from my isp
[06:22] <ubuntu_> does anyone know how to upgrade 11.04 to 11.10 via usbstick?
[06:22] <reisio> whereami: what?
[06:22] <Lafiir> reisio: will try that
[06:22] <Xexter> i'm using 10.04 and my keyboard and touchpad are locked up on my netbook.  I can plug an external mouse in and it works, but the keyboard is still locked up. i've tried using the scr lk and the num lk buttons, but nothing unlocks?  any suggestions, anyone?
[06:22] <hansg01> reisio: yeah
[06:22] <yagoo> jamil_1, you need to setup the wifi server...
[06:22] <reisio> good, good
[06:22] <whereami> reisio, moving the mouse into a corner.
[06:22] <yagoo> jamil_1, on that box..
[06:22] <hansg01> ubuntu_: u hv to iso?
[06:22] <homeslice-pdx> anyone out there using empathy IRC? I can't get the "..has joined.." messages to stop
[06:22] <reisio> whereami: oh right
[06:22] <reisio> whereami: I forget what it is, but it's documented
[06:22] <reisio> whereami: maybe the tour on ubuntu.com will explain it
[06:22] <Whiskey> its it possible to install ubuntu desktop whitout any programs?
[06:22] <Whiskey> just a "clean" installation
[06:23] <Aleo> hi again
[06:23] <jamil_1> yagoo: yes
[06:23] <hansg01> ubuntu_: u hv to downlaod packages that will upgrade
[06:23] <reisio> Whiskey: you can uninstall things as you desire
[06:23] <Dagmar> Ubuntu_: I suggest something other than unetbootin.  It seems to get very upset about that one and makes ubuiqity crash a lot right now
[06:23] <ubuntu_> ok
[06:23] <Whiskey> Sounds more easy to have it uninstalled from start
[06:23] <jamil_1> yagoo: why do I need the wifi server ?
[06:23] <hansg01> ubuntu_: or else from usb stick u will lose ur data on 11.04
[06:23] <tensorpudding> what do you mean "without any programs"
[06:23] <Dagmar> hansg01: Since when
[06:23] <tensorpudding> it wouldn't be a desktop if there weren't any
[06:23] <reisio> Whiskey: it would be, if anyone distributed such a thing
[06:23] <yagoo> jamil_1, to setup security.. otherwise anyone can connect to it..
[06:23] <whereami> second question: I have focus-follows-mouse from ages ago. clearly ubuntu doesn't give an expletive about this mode anymore, but I also can't see any way to turn it off.
[06:23] <jamil_1> yagoo: my router is the server no ?
[06:23] <Dagmar> It presents an option to upgrade from the install menu.
[06:23] <paul_> ok if i type aplay -l i see the card i use but ubuntu isn't using it i think its using the correct card but not the correct device number.  How do i change the audio card in ubuntu 11.10
[06:23] <Dagmar> It's pretty clear about saying it's not going to destroy data
[06:23] <Whiskey> Like Firefox, Office Package alll programs that comes whit it
[06:24] <yagoo> jamil_1, choose wpa2 for the encryption
[06:24] <ubuntu_> ok... so is there a way to use the live stick to push the upgrade to the host computer?
[06:24] <jamil_1> yagoo: from where ?
[06:24] <llutz_> !mini |  Whiskey use this to setup a system of your choice
[06:24] <reisio> whereami: depends on the WM, though I think I have seend 3rd party scripts for making it work with any generic WM
[06:24] <yagoo> jamil_1, u have to set it up first. By default wifi server is not on.
[06:24] <whereami> i'm just using the default WM.
[06:24] <freeride> llutz_ it helped me. Thanks again!
[06:24] <reisio> whereami: so either it's changed or your config has
[06:24] <yagoo> jamil_1, u have to consult with your model's instructions on how to do that..
[06:25] <ubuntu_> what happened is something crashed when i was upgrading, so i have a live stick which I am on now,  and just trying to upgrade instead of losing everything
[06:25] <hansg01> Dagmar: i said if u install ubuntu 11.10 frm usb stick den ur data will be lost
[06:25] <Dagmar> hansg01: I'm thinking you're incorrect.
[06:25] <Whiskey> Not sure that was what ment
[06:25] <whereami> reisio, what? your comments make no sense.
[06:25] <llutz_> freeride: note: when changing groups/users re-login always is required
[06:25] <rahul> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and on boot am stuck with a black screen and cursor. Please please help
[06:25] <reisio> whereami: either the window manager has changed or your config for it has
[06:25] <Whiskey> Hoever i see if it works
[06:25] <Fooler> Hi
[06:25] <jamil_1> yagoo: but it was working before the upgrade
[06:26] <Dagmar> hansg01: I had to bail on it because unetbootin was doing something that made ubiquity crash which makes me a little nervous, but it gives you the option to _upgrade_ an existing 11.04 install
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, what was working?
[06:26] <whereami> reisio, well, obviously the WM changed... I'm pretty sure I made that clear.
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, u probably weren't connecting to your own internet.. lol
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, u need to setup your own SSID on your wifi server..
[06:26] <reisio> whereami: I don't think so, but it's immaterial
[06:26] <jamil_1> yagoo: I dont understand......
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, then assign ur ubuntu machine to that SSID.
[06:26] <yagoo> lol
[06:26] <Luci4n0> Dagmar: it should give you the option to upgrade your current ubuntu.
[06:26] <reisio> (to the solution)
[06:26] <rahul> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and on boot am stuck with a black screen and cursor. Please please help
[06:26] <yagoo> jamil_1, dude u have alot of homework to do..
[06:26] <Dagmar> Luci4n0: Yes, I know.  It did.
[06:27] <reisio> yagoo: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
[06:27] <jamil_1> yagoo: it is a mess.....
[06:27] <Luci4n0> Dagmar: ok
[06:27] <yagoo> jamil_1, u were probalby using somebody else's wifi
[06:27] <Dagmar> rahul: Did it get through the first grub part and start booting?
[06:27] <jamil_1> yagoo: no no, I was authenticating to my router
[06:27] <ubuntu_> rahul: thats my problem too... well i was doing a upgrade from 11.04 - it stuck on black screen of death
[06:27] <user2011> hi..i have a question...first time to upgrade my xubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 by live cd....right now its stuck on restoring previously installed packages...its been an hour now....how long does this take? does it download all the packages again?
[06:28] <homeslice-pdx> man 11.10 seems buggy
[06:28] <yagoo> jamil_1, you sure? you tell me you don't know what the SSID is? ..
[06:28] <Luci4n0> rahul: installing 11.04 and then upgrade to 11.10 seems to work, it did so with my laptop which had the same issue you have now.
[06:28] <rahul> Dagmar: First grub part means? I was shown the different grub versions I have. I chose the first one.
[06:28] <yagoo> jamil_1, you should make the SSID unique and not use the maker's default..
[06:28] <Dagmar> rahul: Do you mean different _kernels_ to boot?
[06:28] <jamil_1> yagoo: becasue I configured it along time ago
[06:28] <yagoo> jamil_1, u might be acciddentally using somebody elses' router who didnt change the name either for the SSID
[06:28] <rahul> Luci4n0: Exactly, I just made a fresh install and damn!
[06:29] <yagoo> jamil_1, and who also didnt setup security..
[06:29] <Dagmar> rahul: If it got that far, boot again and when it gets to that point, hit 'e' and then take out any "quiet" or "splash" arguments from it.  That *should* let you see whatever the kernel is mad about when the kernel starts booting
[06:29] <rahul> Dagmar: Yes I guess, including the recovey one and previous versions
[06:29] <yagoo> jamil_1, setup the security part of the wifi server.. maybe your ISP did this for you..
[06:29] <Dagmar> rahul: The kernel chatter is hidden behind the graphics mode that kicked in probably
[06:29] <yagoo> jamil_1, u need to have the key at the very least..
[06:29] <oliver__> help
[06:29] <Aleo> help also
[06:29] <jamil_1> yagoo: even if I was using someone else's connection why isn't wrking just after the upgrade
[06:30] <rahul> Dagmar: Yes. But how to I save that one? I was thinking of adding noacpi or acpi=off
[06:30] <jamil_1> *after*
[06:30] <user2011> anyone can help me with my problem?
[06:30] <rahul> Dagmar: I dont know how to save it once am done editing
[06:30] <jamil_1> *upgrade*
[06:30] <Aleo> still can not set the icons size on the left dock bar, ubuntu last version
[06:30] <yagoo> jamil_1, you should get more help on #linux.. You really should setup your wifi first.
[06:30] <yagoo> jamil_1, then come back here once you setup your wifi..
[06:30] <Aleo> I would like them a bit smaller
[06:30] <yagoo> jamil_1, (wifi server)
[06:31] <jamil_1> yagoo: ok no problem
[06:31] <Dagmar> rahul: You don't want to save it.  You just want it to temporarily let you see why the thing is stopping.  That acpi thing you mentioned tho... Why do you want to do that?  I have a guess which means I would know what happened that stopped your booting
[06:31] <rahul> Dagmar: Ok am doing it. Wait. But once i remove quitet splash
[06:31] <rahul> Dagmar: What to do?
[06:32] <Dagmar> rahul: Somewhat recent kernels have been having serious problems with ASPM
[06:32] <user2011> yagoo how long does the restoring previously installed packages will take during upgrade?? does it download again all the packages?
[06:32] <Dagmar> rahul: Just remove those arguments from the line and hit esc ot ctrl-x... whatever it says on the screen there.  You dont' have to save the changes--they will be used to boot with this time around
[06:33] <rahul> Dagmar: esc will take me back to options. Clrt+x to boot.
[06:33] <Dagmar> rahul: If your problem is ASPM-related locking up, it'll be stopping during part of the PCI bus enumeration.  pcie_aspm=off is probably more like that you want if that's the case
[06:33] <os1ris> I know there are 1000 ppl asking questions but I am in need of some help. I am totally hosed. I went for the new upgrade to 11.10 and now I can not load into any version of ubuntu. I did the " install under windows " and I was wondering ... 1) can I fix the linux install to go either back to 11.04 or mount .disk file in windows. Pleas ehelp
[06:33] <Dagmar> rahul: So edit out the sneaky message hiding options and press ctrl-x
[06:33] <rahul> Dagmar: Hang on. Am teling u the output.
[06:33] <Dagmar> osiris: You can't burn the ISO to a CD or a thumbdrive?
[06:33] <yagoo> os1ris, i don't think wubi is ideal..
[06:33] <os1ris> help is super apreciated
[06:34] <os1ris> What iso ?
[06:34] <Dagmar> o.O
[06:34] <yagoo> os1ris, this other dude had exactly the same issue.. nobody here uses wubi..
[06:34] <os1ris> I have 11.04 burnt to a cd but not the new one.
[06:34]  * yagoo doesn't know why it's not reminded to folks-- wubi is not ideal
[06:34] <os1ris> Yea I know now it was mistake using wubi but it was laptop.
[06:34] <OceanEleven> Is there any good software for desktop clock, i'm using ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[06:35]  * yagoo treats wubi fine-- only as for checking out and nothing more..
[06:35] <os1ris> but can i either /mnt the .disk file or revert back to keep the data. Freezes on boot
[06:35] <os1ris> do NOT want to loose my data
[06:35] <Dagmar> osiris: You should probably go back and actually download the desktop iso and use that
[06:35] <yagoo> os1ris, nobody here uses wubi.. it's the sad truth..
[06:35] <yagoo> sorry :(
[06:35] <lauratika> i was having all day issues with compiz and windows decoration when set to "(any) & !(class=Opera)" so my browser when miximized wont show window decoarations but was not working then after compiz --replace finally work but now everytime i restart ubuntu 11.10 have to do compiz --replace is there a way to fix this?
[06:35] <rahul> Dagmar: Removed quite splash from it. Still the same. Same black screen with a blinking cursor
[06:35] <Dagmar> You're not in danger of losing your /home filesystem as long as you DO NOT PICK ANY options that mention formatting a disk
[06:35] <os1ris> yea I know that. but I am worried now for recovery of my data
[06:35] <yagoo> os1ris, ur data can be recovered..
[06:36] <yagoo> os1ris, um... i believe the loopback file is squashfs or something like that..
[06:36] <Dagmar> rahul: Maybe check the other VTs and/or try again taking out that vt_handoff thing as well.
[06:36] <Raven> did they take the "connect to server" out of the 11.10 release?
[06:36] <yagoo> os1ris, in order to access it.. u have to do a mount ntfs-3g, then a loopback mount against that linux loopbackfile
[06:36] <Dagmar> I'm not entirely sure wtf all in the kernel parameters is involved in modeswitch and what isn't but the worst that can happen is *haha* it won't boot
[06:37] <rahul> Dagmar: Am pretty noob on that. What is VT? How can I do that?
[06:37] <yagoo> os1ris, u might even be able to access it via vmware..
[06:37] <os1ris> well i am in windows now to see if I can mount it here so i can isntall proper...
[06:37] <Dagmar> The kernel should pretty much never just say _nothing_ when it boots
[06:37] <Dagmar> rahul: Oh... ctrl-f1, f2, through F7
[06:37] <avgeneral> question: how do I access a directory from an ftp:// location in terminal?
[06:37] <rahul> Dagmar: While am on that blank screen and cursor?
[06:38] <Aleo> still can not set the icons size on the left dock bar, ubuntu last version , anyone knows how ?
[06:38] <arghx> avgeneral: you can use "cd" like in a shell. "dir" and "ls" work too
[06:39] <avgeneral> arghx: first how do I cd to the ftp:// directory?
[06:39] <Raven> Question: did they take the "connect to server" out of the 11.10 release?
[06:39] <avgeneral> Raven: no, they relocated it
[06:40] <Dagmar> rahul: Yeah if the kernel's actually there that might make it flip the screens
[06:40] <avgeneral> Raven: open up file browser and it's under File menu
[06:40] <rmarshan> how do i get the evolution theme to work with the new ubuntu
[06:40] <Dagmar> avgeneral; You don't.
[06:40] <os1ris> anyone aware of a way I can mount a .disk file in windows to just do some data recovery so i can install proper ?
[06:40] <rahul> Dagmar: Gosh! Pulled out that vt_handoff as well. And am seeing a list DMAR : Unsuported  device scope rolling out.
[06:40] <lauratika> anyone?
[06:40] <Dagmar> Aha!  Now we're getting somewhere
[06:40] <Raven> avgeneral: would u be so kind as to let me know where they located it? i miss it
[06:41] <rmarshan> i have gone to configuration editor and try to force evolution theme being used
[06:41] <rmarshan> it is installed but it does not work anymore
[06:41] <yagoo> os1ris, i'm guessing.. did u try 7zip in windows to try to extract it to a subfolder?
[06:41] <Nyad> hi. I updated but my graphics won't turn on when I boot into my linux
[06:41] <Nyad> I have to manually start it
[06:41] <Dagmar> rahul: Oh wow.  Okay maybe you DO need to disable acpi.  Add the params you were talking about to the list of params this time around
[06:41] <avgeneral> Raven: http://www.wilhelser.com/my-blog/connect-to-server-ubuntu-natty/
[06:42] <Nyad> X server not automatically starting
[06:42] <Gunz4MiPPle> does lubuntu-desktop make any weird changes if i install it
[06:42] <Milossh> hmm, wasn't thunderbird announced as a default email client for 11.10?
[06:42] <Dagmar> rahul: OH!  Or! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/742296   <-- says to boot with intel_iommu=on
[06:42] <yagoo> os1ris, let me know if 7zip was able to extracted..
[06:43] <varunthacker> any one using 11.10 unity facing problems trying to drag drop a file from nautilus to gmail which is open in firefox. The launcher does not respond when i hover the selected files over it
[06:43] <os1ris> trying it now
[06:44] <rahul> Dagmar: noapic dint work. that link. Yes i had same system. Tm2
[06:44] <rahul> Dagmar: Checking
[06:44] <rahul> Dagmar: have*
[06:44] <Xexter> i plug in an external keyboard and  mouse and i can type on my laptop, but the built in touchpad and keyboard don't work.  any suggestions?
[06:44] <Xexter> it happened after i plugged in an external mouse
[06:45] <Xexter> the lockup, that is
[06:45] <Xexter> anyone have any suggestions on what to do?
[06:45] <n3glv> hi guys
[06:45] <wooter> XeroXer, does the keyboard work in bios
[06:45] <Nyad> hi n3glv
[06:45] <n3glv> hi Nyad
[06:45] <Xexter> wooter, yes it does
[06:45] <varunthacker> XeroXer:  need to install  synaptiks package from software center and restart. The touchpad problem should be gone after that
[06:46] <n3glv> so, on older ubuntu, I use classic desktop, I hate the vertical launcher mess because u can't minmise it
[06:46] <Dagmar> You're sure the keyboard stops working?
[06:46] <TechKnow> damn, i was trying to mac spoof in terminal, but it kinda screwed me over.
[06:46] <Xexter> the keyboard stops working
[06:46] <n3glv> someone said 11.10 I won't be able to do this anymore
[06:46] <Xexter> that, i'm sure of
[06:46] <os1ris> 7 DISK DID NOT WORK
[06:46] <os1ris> ssorry for the caps
[06:46] <varunthacker> Xexter: :  need to install  synaptiks package from software center and restart. The touchpad problem should be gone after that
[06:47] <n3glv> varunthacker: synaptics
[06:47] <n3glv> synaptic even
[06:47] <Xexter> think that will take care of the keyboard issue too?
[06:47] <rahul> Dagmar: Gosh! Before that changed the Virtualistion to off in BIOS. It started!!!
[06:47] <n3glv> sheesh, it's late
[06:47] <TechKnow> i typed ifconfig eth0 down.. then i typed ifconfig eth0 haddwr ff:00ff:00ff:00 .. and then ifconfig eth0 up.. but it didn't change my mac address
[06:47] <lauratika>  :(
[06:47] <TechKnow> ;/
[06:47] <rahul> Dagmar: Shall it keep it off. Or shall i make VT on and follow those steps?
[06:47] <Dagmar> hwaddr
[06:47] <n3glv> TechKnow: network manager is messing with your networking
[06:47] <varunthacker> n3glv: package name is synaptiks in the software center
[06:47] <gantrixx> I installed 11.10 and reverted to standard gnome, but I still get that unity tool bar at the top
[06:47] <TechKnow> yeah dag
[06:47] <gantrixx> how do I get rid of it
[06:47] <TechKnow> hwaddr
[06:47] <TechKnow> thats what i typed
[06:48] <Dagmar> rahul: Give it a shot.  Now you at least know how to make it go ahead and boot the second time around
[06:48] <Dagmar> TechKnow: Weird.  I've done it that way before
[06:48] <TechKnow> ok n3g.. so i just have to go to network manager and..
[06:48] <n3glv> TechKnow: might want to look for an app called macchanger
[06:48] <TechKnow> for windows?
[06:48] <TechKnow> n3g?
[06:48] <n3glv> TechKnow: no unix
[06:48] <os1ris> yagoo  -  did not mount
[06:48] <rahul> Dagmar: Yes. :D *happy* Btw what is this VT thingy? Does keeping it off any harm?
[06:48] <TechKnow> true
[06:49] <TechKnow> instead of trying to do everything manually
[06:49] <n3glv> it's slick
[06:49] <TechKnow> i run ubuntu through oracle vm
[06:49] <yagoo> os1ris, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[06:49] <TechKnow> its virtualised
[06:49] <n3glv> ewwwwwwwwwwww
[06:49] <n3glv> a winblows user
[06:49] <TechKnow> hahaha
[06:49] <n3glv> ick
[06:49] <TechKnow> i run everything through there!
[06:49] <gantrixx> It seems that I can't change the theme
[06:49] <TechKnow> backtrack, ubuntu
[06:49] <n3glv> I run the xp that I have under virtualbox
[06:49] <TechKnow> it's pretty cool
[06:49] <Raven> avgeneral: thanx. i still can't find it under the new release 11.10, not used to this unity. went from GNOME to unity and now having trouble navigating
[06:50] <Math^> hey guys, I'd like to learn an complex text editor, what should I pick, Vi or emacs...?
[06:50] <n3glv> I don't have a single pc that can boot M$
[06:50] <TechKnow> 10.10 have more support
[06:50] <Luci4n0> Math^: vim :)
[06:50] <TechKnow> i would stick with it
[06:50] <n3glv> Math^: I like joe
[06:50] <Math^> but vi is evil, stalman says :p
[06:50] <TechKnow> until 11.04 becomes more stable
[06:51] <n3glv> I have this distinct feeling that I'm going to hate 11.10
[06:51] <TechKnow> n3g you said you don't have a single pc that can boot m$?
[06:51] <yagoo> os1ris, u can setup a share on windows-- mount smb this share from vmware, then mount the loopbackfile, then mount the embedded filesystem type (maybe its ext2), then simply copy what's in the home to your /mnt/smb in vmware (and that /mnt/smb is your Windows which u should see under win explorer) << sounds nice doesn't it? lol
[06:51] <Luci4n0> Math^: vim is slightly easier.
[06:51] <yagoo> ^.
[06:51] <n3glv> TechKnow: no, no winders
[06:51] <Xexter> varunthacker, there's the kde-config-synaptiks package, that the one?
[06:51] <yagoo> that's a solution ..
[06:51] <Math^> Luci4n0, then emacs?
[06:51] <yagoo> not easy.. but possible..
[06:51] <TechKnow> nice haha
[06:51] <vadi01>  /msg NickServ identify multic
[06:51] <PurpleSmoke> lol
[06:51] <yagoo> os1ris, it's pita buddy...
[06:51] <n3glv> hey vadi01, might want to change that pw now
[06:52] <vadi01> n3 damn
[06:52] <Math^> I'm gonna log in as vadi01
[06:52] <TechKnow> well, if you're such an ubuntu fan did you hear the news about dennis ritchie?
[06:52] <Luci4n0> Math^: then vi
[06:52] <n3glv> lol
[06:52] <TechKnow> The Godfather of linux!
[06:52] <Math^> Luci4n0, ye ok, but vim is actually vi, right? but got more options and stuff?
[06:52] <TechKnow> dead
[06:52] <n3glv> ya
[06:52] <Luci4n0> Math^: yep
[06:52] <llutz_> TechKnow: linux != unix
[06:53] <TechKnow> um
[06:53] <TechKnow> im a nub
[06:53] <n3glv> kernihan and ritchie, 'the c programing language'
[06:53] <TechKnow> so i have no idea
[06:53] <n3glv> grandfather of C not linux
[06:53] <n3glv> or unix
[06:53] <TechKnow> oh whaa?
[06:53] <n3glv> well, had his fingers in unix
[06:53] <TechKnow> the article i read must have been wrong
[06:53] <TechKnow> oh thats why
[06:53] <SetiAmon> interesting.Music players work fine.I thought it was just flash but i tried that html5 thing and no audio there either
[06:53] <SetiAmon> so firefox audio doesn't work in 11.10?
[06:53] <Math^> Luci4n0, I know a bit how to use vi, I only can't get my cursor till the end of the text with [end], it stops at the end of the letter of the text
[06:53] <rahul> Can anyone help me on this? I have exactly the same problem. But solution didnt work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/742296
[06:54] <llutz_> n3glv: one of the most important unix-programmers ever
[06:54] <notimik> hm is there some guard againt reg nicks similiar to nickserve or chanservre here?
[06:54] <n3glv> llutz_: true
[06:54] <Math^> Luci4n0,  so I'm always deleting that last letter when editing :p
[06:54] <Luci4n0> Math^: give vim a try then .. sudo apt-get install vim
[06:54] <Math^> I'll try vim :)
[06:54] <n3glv> joe is like a super nano
[06:55] <n3glv> aka wordstart
[06:55] <n3glv> wordstsar rather
[06:55] <yagoo> os1ris, u still there? u probably can even backup ur data using vmwaretools
[06:55] <rmarshan> hey peeps i want to use evolution theme with 11.10
[06:55] <llutz_> Math^: use "vimtutor"
[06:55] <SetiAmon> yeah can't stream mp3s on shoutcast either
[06:55] <SetiAmon> So who here has sound in firefox on 11.10
[06:55] <n3glv> oh well, off to see how the install went
[06:55] <rahul> Can anyone help me on this? I have exactly the same problem. But solution didnt work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/742296
[06:55] <Math^> Luci4n0, lol you're right, this works a bit better for me
[06:55] <yagoo> os1ris, instead of using /mnt/smb.. it'll be less setup (but u still need to install vmwaretools in the vm)
[06:55] <Raven> ok I finally found my "connect-to-server" my morning just got better!!
[06:56] <devians> ive installed dhcp3-server on ubuntu server, but theres no service i can start or script in init.d. what the fuck?
[06:56] <Math^> llutz, what's that?
[06:56] <Luci4n0> Math^: dont forget the :wq when done :)
[06:56] <llutz_> Math^: a good start to  learn vim
[06:56] <n3glv> rahul: I doubdt you will make friends REPOSTING the question over and over
[06:56] <Flannel> devians: Please mind the language.  What version of Ubuntu is this?
[06:56] <Math^> ye, I always do :wq!
[06:56] <devians> 11.10
[06:56] <Math^> llutz, k thnx
[06:56] <rahul> n3glv: I doubt people even care to answer my queries.
[06:57] <Luci4n0> Math^: all good
[06:57] <Flannel> devians: The init script is isc-dhcp-server
[06:57] <ghostnik11> ns id king11
[06:58] <devians> Flannel ah. why on earth is that not anywhere when i google this stuff. sigh, thanks
[06:58] <notimik> hmm my sound level in 11.10 allways get set to max at every login.. any sugesstions?
[06:58] <rahul> n3glv: And only friend I will eventually make is ubottu . :P
[06:59] <ghostnik11> how do you get synaptic back b/c i need to download a specific thing that i know i won't be able to find in ubuntu software resources
[06:59] <genewitch> ar8152 not working upon 11.10 upgrade, fn-f3 wifi switch not lighting the wifi light, lspci shows device.
[06:59] <rahul> Am not able to boot unless I swtich off virtualization from bios.
[06:59] <Flannel> devians: I just checked the packages in the file.  It's likely not in google because it's brand new (there's a transitional package which you installed, and then the new real package)
[07:00] <alcy> folks, did a release-upgrade to 11.10, and it gets stuck at 'init: Handling mounting event'. If I use recovery mode, remount, and then resume normal boot, it works. Any suggestions ?
[07:01] <Math^> llutz, nice one, thnx again :)
[07:01] <miki> ghostnikll: synaptic package manager is on 11.10 if you have cairo-dock look in other
[07:01] <Flannel> devians: Er, the files in the package.  That makes more sense.
[07:02] <HeavyMetal> hi advcomp2019
[07:04] <brian> Hello
[07:04] <Luci4n0> hey
[07:04] <brian> I can install packages through xterm but cannot find them in synaptic manager
[07:04] <alcy> anyone ?
[07:04] <Name141> What does encrypt home"
[07:05] <Name141> er..
[07:05] <Name141> What does "encrypt home" actually do ?
[07:05] <brian> When I search for something in synaptic I get no results unless it's already installed.
[07:05] <rahul> Gosh! Ubuntu 11.10 has no Classic Ubuntu? Grrrr..
[07:05] <grendal-prime> hey guys anyone familiar with oftc-hybrid irc server?
[07:05] <puddles> problem with software centre!
[07:05] <genewitch> oops, it's a broadcomm device that stopped working.
[07:06] <genewitch> bcm4313 not working on 11.10 upgrade, the wifi switch isn't doing anything and it *is* showing up in lspci
[07:06] <notimik> can you trick xchat on ubuntu into using more than one dictionary for spell checking?
[07:06] <stiekema> disconnect
[07:06] <Max229> What package contains pcre_compile and pcre_exec?
[07:06] <advcomp2019> in 11.10, i removed the scrollbar overlay but some apps does not have the arrows for the scrollbar while other apps does have the arrows.. i was wondering if this is a bug or have i overlooked something
[07:06] <puddles> i have a package in the list but when i go to look at it, it says "software package *** not found in software sources" ?
[07:06] <puddles> can anyone help?
[07:07] <grendal-prime> rahul, ya...i got sick of that sort of crap i just use lts and deal with it
[07:07] <rymate1234> hai
[07:07] <genewitch> Max229: libpcre3-dev?
[07:07] <puddles> can someone pls help me?
[07:07] <rahul> Last time I had installed ATI FGLRX proprietary driver on 11.04. I never was able to boot again. Shall I try installing it in 11.10
[07:08] <rymate1234> i'm having a python problem
[07:08] <Max229> genwitch: Apparently I already have that installed. That is not it
[07:08] <Name141> grendal-prime I doubt the next LTS would have Gnome either?
[07:08] <rahul> rymate1234: Join #python
[07:08] <genewitch> Max229: pastebin wahtever is throwin the error i'll check it out
[07:08] <rymate1234> whats the device i need to mount in order from multiprocessing to work?
[07:08] <rymate1234> in python?
[07:08] <grendal-prime> ill bet they have that worked out by then
[07:08] <grendal-prime> thats the idea behind the lts
[07:08] <Max229> genewitch: http://pastebin.com/eFYd9sau
[07:09] <grendal-prime> ive neverhad an lts 2 lts upgrade brake anything
[07:09] <grendal-prime> now thats on servers
[07:10] <grendal-prime> but i have done 2 of them..on critical machines
[07:10] <grendal-prime> total of 40 mcahines 2times
[07:10] <genewitch> Max229: -llpcre
[07:10] <rahul> Last time I had installed ATI FGLRX proprietary driver on 11.04. I never was able to boot again. Shall I try installing it in 11.10
[07:10] <grendal-prime> and thats a pretty damn good record
[07:10] <genewitch> in the compile command
[07:10] <genewitch> Max229: -lpcre
[07:11] <Max229> genewitch: Synaptic says there so such thing
[07:11] <advcomp2019> the arrows missing in some apps is bugging me because i had a friend that did not like the scroll overlay
[07:12] <SetiAmon> ok i streamed audio threw banscee launched in firfox.
[07:12] <sonja_> i get black screen w large x in oneiric
[07:12] <sonja_> halp
[07:13] <aliandro> hi
[07:13] <aliandro> who can help me with installing a printer
[07:14] <aliandro> i am new with linux
[07:14] <brian> aliandro, which printer?
[07:14] <aliandro> i want to instal a brother cdp165c
[07:14] <aliandro> brother dcp-165c
[07:14] <Luci4n0> aliandro: usb? network?
[07:14] <brian> If I remember correctly, Brother is not supportive of Linux and don't make drivers.
[07:14] <aliandro> usb
[07:15] <aliandro> they do
[07:15] <aliandro> they got drivers for linux but i dunno how it works lol
[07:15] <Luci4n0> aliandro: which ubuntu?
[07:15] <sonja__> help i get black screen with large x cursor in oneiric
[07:15] <aliandro> the latest
[07:15] <aliandro> i downloaded this platform yesterday
[07:16] <brian> aliandro, did you look in synaptic manager for your printer?
[07:16] <aliandro> yea i tryed that but it dont work
[07:16] <Luci4n0> aliandro: click the logo and search for printing
[07:16] <aliandro> yea i did it say it ready but it dont work with that software
[07:16] <Luci4n0> aliandro: then click add .. and probably your printer is already in there ..
[07:17] <aliandro> i did these stebs its not working
[07:17] <Luci4n0> aliandro: its connected and online?
[07:17] <aliandro> yes
[07:17] <aliandro> but it dont print anything
[07:17] <aliandro> i say print test page
[07:18] <aliandro> but hey dont do it
[07:18] <trijntje> Hi all, how can I make sure I upgraded from beta to the release? There are not updates, and there havent been any since oneiric was released
[07:18] <Henriquez> hello everyone. Does anyone know if ubuntu 11.10 has problems with audio/video the playback seems to be x2 with flash video video in vlc and totem and audio in audacious
[07:18] <sagaci> what's the sure way to kill all instances of networkmanager?
[07:18] <Luci4n0> aliandro: did you use a driver already in ubuntu? or installed a downloaded one
[07:18] <sagaci> need to to debug my 3G card
[07:18] <aliandro> i used a driver already installed
[07:18] <bumble> so i got a new fresh cd and i installed ubuntu 11.10 over 11.04 erasing everything cause i wanted to start anew and i cant find synaptic to get my wifi card working last time i went to synaptic search bcm and found the one that belonged to my card
[07:19] <genewitch> sagaci: pkill networkmanager
[07:19] <sagaci> genewitch: thanks, see you in a bit
[07:19] <bumble> now what am i soposed to do to get it to work without synaptic
[07:19] <genewitch> re: my problem, you have to rmmod wl and blacklist it and bcm4313 works again on 11.10
[07:19] <sonja__> fglrx
[07:20] <trijntje> bumble: have you tried the software center ?
[07:21] <Luci4n0> aliandro: was the printer connected when installed?
[07:21] <eltigre> hey, I have trouble installing the flash plugin... I installed it several times, restarted the browser, still no chance
[07:21] <pratz> harshada_: hey
[07:21] <harshada_> pratz: hey
[07:21] <aliandro> yea it is
[07:22] <aliandro> it realy dont work with the standard software from ubuntu
[07:22] <harshada_> pratz: yeh
[07:22] <Blinkiz> Hello. Need help with the firewall helper "ufw". Have a bunch of allow rules. I also have a few deny rules that I now have added. Problem is that the allow rules is before the deny rules. How can I insert deny rules with ufw before all allow rules?
[07:22] <brian> Luci4n0, should aliandro reboot after installing?
[07:22] <aliandro> anyway thx
[07:22] <aliandro> i try figure it out
[07:23] <Luci4n0> brian: no .. the printer should work directly
[07:23] <eltigre> hey, I have trouble with the flash plugin... I installed it several times, but it still won't work
[07:23] <brian> ok
[07:23] <Henriquez> hello everyone. Does anyone know if ubuntu 11.10 has problems with audio/video the playback seems to be x2 with flash video video in vlc and totem and audio in audacious. Doe snyone know a solutions to this?
[07:23] <genewitch> my onboard netbook mic doesn't work in ubuntu (shows up but the vu meters don't move and no one can hear me)
[07:23] <vinky_> where do I set the BIOS clock settings(if its UTC or local), date and timezone  correctly, ever since I came home from the US the time is 9h off in xubuntu but is okey in gentoo and windows,  in /etc/default/rcS  UTC=no,  hwclock  shows the correct time,  timezone is correct
[07:23] <vadi01> guys online accounts how does it work? i activated my google account but how to use it now?
[07:23] <eltigre> genewitch, you need to change the volume controls
[07:24] <aliandro> whats the dif between a lpr driver or a cupswrapper
[07:24] <ntoll> how do I configure my screensaver on 11.10..? Can't see it in the "System Settings" and display related items therein
[07:24] <trolololol> hey there
[07:25] <genewitch> eltigre: where? it's set to 100% and the hardware tab says duplex
[07:25] <trolololol> i need help with ubuntu
[07:25] <trolololol> 8.04
[07:25] <Luci4n0> aliandro: cupswrapper is i think for when you using it as a network printer in cups (with or without samba).
[07:25] <ubuweb> Hello. I just installed wordpress on my ubuntu server. The installation seems to have worked fine . I have a problem to view images that I have uploaded into the blog . I have uploaded and inserted the images in the posts but the images do not display. Anyone has an idea what the problem is and how to fix it? Thanks.
[07:25] <trolololol> this is a rubbissh channel!
[07:25] <trolololol> for a eubish os!
[07:25] <mlatelcom> hello everybody, I just was upgrading ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10 and right no the way installing packs someone unplug the power cable and when I turned on the pc again it started as it was upgraded but now it looks like something is wrong
[07:25] <trolololol> CRAP
[07:26] <trolololol> CRAP
[07:26] <trolololol> CRAP
[07:26] <FloodBot1> trolololol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:26] <eltigre> genewitch, there are several controls, try pulseaudio mixer
[07:26] <auronandace> vinky_: try this: sudo hwclock --hctosys
[07:26] <genewitch> eltigre: is that installed by default?
[07:27] <AnthonyCat> Is there a way to give my computer an IPv4 address using DCHP with a manual address?
[07:27] <Luci4n0> mlatelcom: start live cd, and see if you can repair.
[07:27] <Aleo> brb
[07:27] <mlatelcom> hello everybody, I was upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 and someone unplug the power cable
[07:27] <trijntje> AnthonyCat: you would probably have to set that in the router
[07:27] <eltigre> genewitch, yes I think so
[07:28] <AnthonyCat> There is no router. It is in a virtual machine
[07:28] <OceanEleven> how do i locate the httpd.conf file in ubuntu server ?
[07:28] <eltigre> genewitch, you might also need to choose the correct audio input in the program you are using
[07:28] <Luci4n0> mlatelcom: or restart update
[07:28] <OceanEleven> how do i locate the httpd.conf file in ubuntu server ?
[07:29] <Luci4n0> OceanEleven: let me check for sure
[07:29] <genewitch> eltigre: the mixer doesn't show any movement on punching the netbook or screaming
[07:29] <vinky_> auronandace, it works, didnt think of doing that since I assume the system should do that on boot
[07:29] <mlatelcom> Luci4n0 once I turned on the pc again it started as it was upgraded but it looks like something is wrong
[07:30] <trijntje> The whole screen flashes when using rotate cube on oneiric. Is there a way to fix this?
[07:30] <Luci4n0> mlatelcom: put in the cd you upgraded with and see if you can repair or restart the upgrade.
[07:30] <mlatelcom> Luci4n0 now when I run the update manager I get this msg W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[07:30] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:30] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:30] <Henriquez> Does anyone know what could cause video (flash and avi) to run at doule speed without sound in 11.10?
[07:30] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[07:30] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:30] <FloodBot1> mlatelcom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <mlatelcom> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tualatrix/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:31] <ntoll> how do I configure my screensaver on 11.10..? Can't see it in the "System Settings" and display related items therein
[07:31] <Raven> Blinkiz: what i know about FW's is that the deny's over-rule the allows in any sense. if u can remove the allows then do so, and add the deny's
[07:32] <Henriquez> Does anyone know what could cause video (flash and avi) to run at doule speed without sound in 11.10?
[07:33] <Raven> Blinkiz: but then again all my servers are BSD
[07:33] <__machine> anyone know why i get an error with sudo update-rc.d couchpotato start 98 2 3 4 5 ? update-rc.d: warning: couchpotato start runlevel arguments (2345) do not match LSB Default-Start values (2 3 4 5)
[07:35] <abhijeet> hello guys.. i have installed the latest version of ubuntu... my screen brightness is getting set to maximux in each boot... in earlier version I did not see this issue.
[07:35] <abhijeet> can anyone suggest what can i do
[07:35] <abhijeet> i have set the brightness from battery panel also
[07:36] <Yamauchi> 'The ISO file includes a file called usb-creator.exe' - where?
[07:36] <Xexter> anyone else have any suggestions on how to get my laptop to recognize my onboard keyboard and touchpad?  i have 10.04
[07:36] <esr> I need to remove an applet from the Gnome Classic panel in 11.10 and cannot figure out how.  Anyone have a method?
[07:37] <genewitch> Xexter: how old is the notebook
[07:37] <Xexter> it's a  netbook and probably 2-3 years old
[07:37] <Luci4n0> Yamauchi: .exe ?
[07:37] <Xexter> eepc4
[07:37] <abhijeet> help guys.
[07:37] <genewitch> Xexter: does it work on the liveUSB
[07:37] <Yamauchi> Luci4n0: trying Kubuntu, but no one answered there
[07:38] <Yamauchi> not seeing it anywhere
[07:38] <trijntje> Yamauchi: I think you should see it when you burn the cd
[07:38] <Xexter> the keyboard and mouse work on usb.  not familiar with the term liveUSB
[07:38] <Xexter> the external keyboard and mouse that is
[07:38] <trijntje> abhijeet: what is the problem?
[07:38] <Luci4n0> Yamauchi: try alt-F2 .. type usb-creator
[07:38] <dr_willis> esr:  the webupd8 blog site has an artical on tweaking  the 11.10 stuff.  It might be mentioned in there
[07:39] <genewitch> Xexter: how'd you get the ubuntu on the netbook? the usb drive you use is a liveusb, did the mouse and keyboard work there
[07:39] <Yamauchi> tried that
[07:39] <patrickc> hi
[07:39] <dr_willis> I dont see a usb-creator.exe tool on the 11.10 cd.
[07:39] <abhijeet> trijntje, in ubuntu 11.10 brightness is getting reset to maximum on each boot.
[07:39] <ntr0py> Where are the fonts settings in 11.10?
[07:39] <esr> dr_willis: I've read that one.  It isn't.
[07:39] <dr_willis> but you are supposed to be able to just 'dd' the 11.10 iso to a flash drive and it should work.
[07:39] <Xexter> i installed from a usb to the internal memory
[07:39] <dr_willis> esr:  its possible its not doable. That classic gnome stuff is very locked down/hardcoded
[07:39] <abhijeet> trijntje, in older version of ubuntu I was able to fix this issue by setting the brightness from the battery configuration
[07:39] <genewitch> Xexter: so the keyboard and mouse worked to install?
[07:39] <bil21al> tell me a good vedio to audio convertot??
[07:39] <Companion> genewitch, there is a guide at download section of installing ubuntu from usb stick
[07:40] <abhijeet> trijntje, but now there is no option to set brightness in the battery configuration .
[07:40] <dr_willis> bil21al:  winff, avidemux, ffmpeg, mencoder
[07:40] <genewitch> Companion: i didn't
[07:40] <Companion> genewitch, wanna bet?
[07:40] <genewitch> Companion: no i mean i didn't ask anything about that :-)
[07:40] <esr> dr_willis: Where can I find a window manager that will let me get mmy *work* done?  I hate the direction GNMOME has been going, dumbing down and candy-coloring everything.
[07:40] <Xexter> the keyboard and touchpad have worked for months, they stopped working when i plugged an external mouse in today.  and i've done that a ton of times before and it never caused a problem
[07:41] <Companion> genewitch, oh srry
[07:41] <trijntje> abhijeet: I'm not on a laptop right now, so I cant check anything. Are you saying that hte option is present but has no effect, or that the option is missing?
[07:41] <ntr0py> Are all fonts setting gui options deleted in Oneric?
[07:41] <pumkinhed_> freenode.net 6667
[07:41] <abhijeet> trijntje, in ubuntu 11.10 that option is missing from the battery configuration.
[07:41] <dr_willis> esr:  depends on your needs and how you work. I find  gnome shell useable..  or you just use some other dock/extension/indicator applets  if you dont like the launcher. You could always fall back to Lubuntu.
[07:41] <genewitch> Xexter: that's the question you should ask :-)
[07:42] <bil21al> dr_wills thankx
[07:42] <abhijeet> trijntje, there is option in screen menu to configure the brightness but that is getting reset at each reboot to max
[07:42] <Yamauchi> I'll mess around
[07:42] <Yamauchi> see if I can get anything working
[07:43] <esr> dr_willis: I'm a programmer.  I want the kind of control GNOME classsic gave me.  I've tried GNOME 3 but can;t find a way to create shortcuts in it.
[07:43] <Raven> bil21al: realplayer is a good vid-to-aud converter, there is a linux version that i've used, and is pretty good
[07:43] <tahlvin> I'm trying to work out booting from a USB drive with persistence, and I set up the livecd on the USB and it booted fine earlier, but when I restarted to test it out I ran into all kinds of errors. I set it up again, but I fear that the same problems are going to happen once I restart. I think it might have something to do with updates changing things that don't want to be changed.
[07:43] <abhijeet> trijntje, I am trying now the xbacklight.. let see if that resolves the issue
[07:43] <trijntje> abhijeet: i'm not sure how to fix that, but it sounds like a bug
[07:43] <ziggyfish> quick question, I've upgraded to 11.10, how do I change the desktop environment to Gnome? (it's already installed, but I can not find where to set it in the login screen)
[07:44] <dr_willis> esr:  i found very little controll in the old gnome. but i guess it depends on what you are wanting to controll... a short cut where exactly?
[07:44] <sajimon> ziggyfish: what you mean? You are in gnome whole time
[07:44] <abhijeet> trijntje, may be... it was there in very old version of ubunut.. it was fixed in around 9.10.. now I am facing it again
[07:44] <trijntje> ziggyfish: its the small gear-icon to the right of the login screen
[07:44] <Xexter> genewitch, it seems that plugging in the external mouse caused the problem, but how can i repair what happened.  in windoze, i'd uninstall and reinstall the human interface drivers, but i'm not sure what to do here
[07:45] <Henriquez> Does anyone know what could cause video (flash and avi) to run at doule speed without sound in 11.10?
[07:45] <esr> dr_willis: I used to be able to put app launcher icons on my menu bar.  Couldn't figure out how to do that it gnome-shell...could have lived with it, otherwise.
[07:45] <OceanEleven> I just accidenty removed the workspace navigator from right below section
[07:45] <dr_willis> esr:  i just put a shortcut on my gnome-shell desktop. :)
[07:45] <OceanEleven> how can i get it back on below
[07:45] <esr> dr_willis: How?
[07:46] <OceanEleven> i mean lower panel
[07:46] <OceanEleven> ubuntu lucid 10.04
[07:46] <trijntje> OceanEleven: right click -> add to panel, something like that
[07:46] <dr_willis> esr:  used the gnome-tweak tool to  set 'have file manager handle the desktop'
[07:47] <esr> dr_willis: I'll try that.
[07:47] <abhijeet> trijntje, xbacklight -set <value> will set the brightness.. I do u have any idea how can i add this command during boot time to set the brightness
[07:47] <dr_willis> esr:  the made a shortcut in the Desktop directory
[07:47] <vehemoth> is it possible to have semi transparent titlebars with gtk3?
[07:47] <dr_willis> but i hate cluttered desktops.. :)
[07:47] <OceanEleven> trijntje:  didn't work
[07:47] <ntr0py> where can i set the fonts in Oneric?
[07:47] <OceanEleven> I just accidenty removed the workspace navigator from right below section how do i get it back
[07:48] <dr_willis> ntr0py:  the 'gnome-tweak' tool lets you do that
[07:48] <trijntje> OceanEleven: which part didnt work?
[07:48] <tahlvin> Can anyone troubleshoot my attempts at doing pendrive linux?
[07:48] <dr_willis>  gnome-tweak-tool
[07:48] <trijntje> abhijeet: I'm not sure, I think you should look that up online. Im sure it can be done
[07:48] <abhijeet> trijntje, ok..
[07:48] <reisio> tahlvin: did you at least buy it dinner first?
[07:48] <tahlvin> I don't know enough to know what I'm doing wrong, but things aren't working.
[07:48] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  give details of what you are trying to do exactly..
[07:48]  * phlak_user is pleased to know that Evolution has finally moved to the Maildir Format
[07:49] <reisio> phlak_user: you would be pleased
[07:49] <tahlvin> reisio: and a movie
[07:49] <reisio> tahlvin: heh
[07:49] <reisio> tahlvin: well it really owes you one, then
[07:49] <ntr0py> dr_willis: the gnome-teak-tool has no option for font rendering subpixel orders. The fonts look very ugly with RGB rendering on my monitor
[07:49] <reisio> ntr0py: ew they're not monochromatically antialiased?
[07:50] <reisio> I hate that
[07:50] <phlak_user> ntr0py: there is an antialiasing option
[07:50] <ziggyfish> this ubuntu 11.10 is so useless, where is the stupid minimise button in gnome
[07:50] <phlak_user> ntr0py: and an option called "hinting" - no clue what it does
[07:51] <dr_willis> ntr0py:  no idea. I dident write it..
[07:51] <Henriquez> zyggyfish > Gnome tweak tool
[07:51] <reisio> ziggyfish: you can always use gnome-shell instead
[07:51] <ziggyfish> I am using gnome shell
[07:51] <OceanEleven> Can we upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to 11 without complete re-installation  ?
[07:51] <ziggyfish> Henriquez: it should be built in
[07:51] <dr_willis> OceanEleven:  yes. but often its best to do clean installs.
[07:51] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I used unetbootin to make a flashdrive into a Livecd thing, and set aside the remainder of the space for persistence. In bios I booted from the USB device, and chose the unetbootin default option. I activated my wireless driver and it installed updates. I created a folder called "test" on the desktop and restarted, when I attempted to start ubuntu again it got to the startup screen and then it gave me errors so fast that I couldn't r
[07:52] <OceanEleven> how do i check which shell i'm working with
[07:52] <tahlvin> ead them all.
[07:52] <ntr0py> reisio, phlak_user: i tried monochrome and all other options: its always RGB subpixel rendering and i have BGR monitor, it looks so ugly...
[07:52] <arghx> OceanEleven: only if you upgrade to 10.10 then 11.04 and then 11.10
[07:52] <Henriquez> ziggyfish youcan get the minimize button back through the settings in gnome tweak tool
[07:52] <OceanEleven> i want to switch to gnome sheel
[07:52] <reisio> ntr0py: yeah I know what you mean, so ugly
[07:52] <OceanEleven> i mean gnome
[07:52] <reisio> ntr0py: I thought that came down to a patch to freetype
[07:52] <OceanEleven> how do i do it ?
[07:52] <arghx> OceanEleven: 10.04 already uses gnome
[07:52] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  unetbootin may not be updated to handle 11.10 properly. Ive had so many issues with unetbootin in the past. I tend to just use other tools from the pendrivelinux web site.
[07:52] <reisio> OceanEleven: install gnome-shell
[07:52]  * phlak_user has upgraded 2 laptops till now
[07:52] <reisio> phlak_user: that's what she said
[07:52] <ziggyfish> Henriquez: I shouldn't need a tweak tool, it should be a setting
[07:52] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  or it could be a bad iso you used.
[07:53] <phlak_user> reisio: who?
[07:53] <ntr0py> reisio: which patch?
[07:53] <tahlvin> dr_willis: which tools would you recommend, and how could i check the iso?
[07:53] <Henriquez> ziggyfish it is a setting :)
[07:53] <reisio> ntr0py: some awful patch by people who like their text to be rainbows
[07:53] <dr_willis> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot.html
[07:54] <Raven> ziggyfish: try right-click on the top of the window
[07:54]  * Companion sets mode #ubuntu  +b !*@*
[07:54] <Rahul> Lauchpad Answers , Ubuntu Forums, or bugs.launchpad which is the best way to get response
[07:54] <reisio> Companion: :p
[07:54] <ntr0py> reisio: now my texts all are rainbows and i first thought i need glasses ...
[07:54] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  I tend to just use the 2 main tools that are on the start of the pendrivelinux site. but i dont know if they are updated for 11.10 yet. You can also use the various 'usb image to flashdrive' tools out. and rename the .iso to .img and can put it on a flash.. BUT that wont have any persist save file.
[07:54] <Companion> reisio, whats up! :D
[07:54] <reisio> ntr0py: like using Windows, heh
[07:54] <reisio> Companion: el nada
[07:55] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  i end to do a 'full' normal type install to my 32gb pendrive :)
[07:55] <Strav> Hi. Anyone experiencing some kind of redrawing of the top right indicators (tray icons) when switching between applications on 11.10? (I'm experiencing this when switching from a terminal to google chrome with alt-tab or from nautilus to okular (still with alt-tab))
[07:55] <scarleo> !md5 | tahlvin
[07:55] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I am a little envious of the size of your pendrive. You must make the usb ports very happy.
[07:55] <Rahul> Lauchpad Answers , Ubuntu Forums, or bugs.launchpad which is the best way to get response
[07:56] <ziggyfish> what retard decided that not having a minimise button is a good thing? We are meant to be making the UI easyer to use
[07:56] <scarleo> ziggyfish: in Unity there's a minimize button
[07:56] <reisio> ziggyfish: nobody's forcing you to use it
[07:56] <phlak_user> ziggyfish: not sure what you're on about-Unity has it
[07:56] <ziggyfish> Unity uses to much memory
[07:57] <crash1hd> Ok this is interesting somehow my desktop is showing the contents of my home folder
[07:57] <chroot> i want to creat a usb startup disk in ubuntu , for windows , how
[07:57] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  on sale for $25
[07:57] <ejv> Companion: i think you meant *!*@* :P
[07:57] <crash1hd> I have already checked ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and it says  XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop" indicating that its right
[07:57] <S_SubZero> ziggyfish: Unity uses too much memory but has a minimize button.  Your GUI of choice may use less memory but has no minimize.  Think about it.
[07:58] <Companion> ejv, I know :')
[07:58] <Strav> Can anyone try to reproduce the bug I'm talking about? (I'd wish to confirm it before reporting to launchpad if necessary)
[07:58] <dr_willis> ziggyfish:  i do belive the gnome-tweak-tool lets you put those buttons back if you want
[07:58] <phlak_user> crash1hd: there is an option in gnome-tweak-tool to let you see mounted folders etc on desktop but not contents
[07:58] <dr_willis> I have a min/max/close button here under gnome-shell :)
[07:58] <ejv> i don't think freenode could handle all of ubuntu parting and joining all at once lol
[07:58] <Raven> its the minimize button that takes up all that memory. lmao
[07:58] <jackoriper> hi
[07:59] <dr_willis> chroot:  ive heard you can 'dd' the win7 iso to a pendrive.. but never tried it.
[07:59] <ejv> !hi | jackoriper
[07:59]  * Companion sets mode +b ejv@*
[07:59] <ejv> !hello | jackoriper
[07:59] <jackoriper> can i dual boot  my laptop with winxp now, already ubuntu is installed in it
[07:59] <crash1hd> phlak_user, yeah I am seeing the mounted drives too but I am seeing all the contents of my home folder
[07:59] <ejv> lol Companion
[07:59] <Companion> :)
[07:59] <ejv> jackoriper: yes
[07:59] <ntr0py> i wont install Oneric until i get an acceptable fonts rendering
[07:59] <ziggyfish> dr_willis: might change distributions, I've been using ubuntu since 6.06, or go with KDE or XFCE
[07:59] <jackoriper> ejv: how ?
[07:59] <Companion> jackoriper, simply install windows & reinstall grup
[08:00] <jackoriper> reinstall grup over what
[08:00] <phlak_user> crash1hd: could it be that you opened nautilus and maximized it, making you think that the desktop now has the contents of your home folder?
[08:00] <Companion> in /boot
[08:00] <ejv> over the windows bootloader
[08:00] <scarleo> jackoriper: reinstall grub from a live cd after installing windows
[08:00] <phlak_user> crash1hd: press Win+d to get your desktop
[08:00] <Companion> windows bootloader is 'eeeewww\
[08:00] <dr_willis> ziggyfish:  its a free world. do what you want. If you want a classic type desktop - theres Lubuntu
[08:00] <ejv> jackoriper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[08:00] <Strav> any channels for bug reports?
[08:00] <Raven> ziggyfish: go with Xfce
[08:00] <ejv> Strav: launchpad
[08:01] <jackoriper> ejv: u mean to say that now i need install winxp, then when i start it  boots into winxp, later i do install grup, then i do get my dual boot menu back ? am i correct
[08:01] <ejv> Strav: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[08:01] <crash1hd> phlak_user, nope I am on my desktop
[08:01] <ejv> i have no idea, i don't use windows
[08:01] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | jackoriper
[08:01] <ejv> but i know the documentation I linked to you, will explain it *fully*
[08:01] <phlak_user> crash1hd: what does pressing Win+d show?
[08:01] <crash1hd> phlak_user, the odd part is when I click on the desktop button it shows my home folder like somehow its been remapped
[08:02] <Strav> ejv: I'm looking for someone to reproduce a bug, I don't with send some worthless bug report that'll take time to triage, especially if people can't reproduce it.
[08:02] <Companion> jackoriper, prefferably
[08:02] <Companion> install Windows > Install ubuntu over it and follow the dual boot Wizzard
[08:02] <Companion> jackoriper, install Windows > Install ubuntu over it and follow the dual boot Wizzard
[08:02] <ejv> Strav: good luck :)
[08:02] <phlak_user> Strav:  did you see if its already been reported?
[08:02] <Strav> ejv: hence, I'm looking for live feed back, not a bug tracker (i.e.: launchpad)
[08:02] <Raven> windows has it own type of grub thats why u lost it
[08:02] <Companion> jackoriper, thats the easyest way
[08:03] <Companion> Raven, no Windows has GIT
[08:03] <crash1hd> phlak_user, win+d shows the desktop (but on the desktop are icons from my home folder)
[08:03] <Companion> crash1hd, it wont work :P
[08:03] <ejv> it's best to file the bug report if it doesn't already exist, then the "interested parties" will reproduce, that's how the real bug triaging works in the real world ;)
[08:03]  * Companion pushes the Super key + D
[08:03] <phlak_user> crash1hd: icons from home folder? did you mean all the files etc?
[08:03] <Companion> nothin hapens
[08:03] <Strav> well can anyone with okular installed and the latest updates applied test switching from okular and a gtk application with alt-tab? (you should perhaps see a redrawing of the indicator icons at the top right of your screen)
[08:04] <crash1hd> phlak_user, yes
[08:04] <crash1hd> Companion, what do you mean it wont work?
[08:04] <phlak_user> Companion: works for me in Unity :)
[08:04] <Strav> (btw, I'm asking since I cannot find a similar bug in launchpad)
[08:04] <Companion> phlak_user, crash1hd ofc it works but not here :O
[08:04] <chroot> dr_willis, what ?
[08:04] <Raven> GIT  does somewhat of the same thing in a way, but yes ur right
[08:05] <Raven> supergrubdisk  might fix the grub
[08:05] <phlak_user> crash1hd: can you run gnome-tweak-tool and see if changing the options for displaying icons on desktop helps?
[08:05] <ejv> if okular isn't provided by a primary ubuntu package, it's not ubuntu's concern... I suggest filing against okular bug tracking
[08:05] <Companion> phlak_user, crash1hd [companion@cube ~]$ uname -r | 3.0-ARCH
[08:05] <phlak_user> Strav: what might the bug be, pray tell?
[08:05] <dr_willis> chroot:  Huh?
[08:05]  * phlak_user arches his eyebrows
[08:06]  * reisio cruxes his
[08:06] <Companion> lol PHLAK
[08:06] <Companion> phlak_user, *
[08:06] <LarryB> hi
[08:06] <Companion> hello LarryB whats up!
[08:06] <reisio> hi LarryB
[08:06] <chroot> dr_willis, i just want to install windows along with ubuntu for the other computer
[08:06] <reisio> yes, que to the tal
[08:06] <Companion> !welcome LarryB
[08:06] <dr_willis> chroot:  and windows will overwrite the grub bootloader. and you will have to some how reparir the grub boot loader.
[08:07] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:07] <Strav> phlak_user: there's some kind of reset going on, my not sure of which part of unity, but this happens when switching between applications with alt-tab (it especially occurs when switching between a QT and gtk application but I also got the same problem when switching between google chrome and gnome-terminal so..)
[08:07] <chroot> so , i want to know if there is a software make usb starup disk
[08:07] <chroot> i know
[08:07] <dr_willis> chroot:  if you have a spare flash drive. you can set up grub on it in addation to on the hard drive. and use the pendrive to boot the linux os. after windows  overwrites grub..
[08:07] <chroot> i will repaire the grub
[08:07]  * Companion hits reisio with a bucket of quicksand and points to the archwiki
[08:07] <phlak_user> Strav: you mean like between skype and terminal?
[08:07] <dr_willis> chroot:  you an put the iso on a usb in many differnt ways... if thats what you want.
[08:07] <chroot> penddrive? what is pendrive
[08:08] <Strav> phlak_user: possibly yes.
[08:08] <dr_willis> pendrive=flashdrive
[08:08] <ikonia> Companion: why are you pointing people at an arch linux wiki ?
[08:08] <Companion> chroot pendrive is a USB or Flash Stick
[08:08] <aayush> Hi, I am running ubuntu 11.10, how can I log off the desktop session from terminal
[08:08] <dr_willis> =thumbdrive
[08:08] <tahlvin> dr_willis: is there an older version of Ubuntu that I could use more easily? The least amount of steps is probably the best for me.
[08:08] <phlak_user> Strav: let me check
[08:08] <Strav> phlak_user: let me try
[08:08] <Raven> chroot: super grub disk fixed mine with my win7 dual boot
[08:08] <Companion> ikonia, its a joke between reisio and me
[08:08] <Strav> phlak_user: thanks
[08:08] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  use more easialy to do what?
[08:08] <crash1hd> phlak_user, well I tried gnome-tweak-tool and I get command not found
[08:08] <chroot> you know the starup diskcreator
[08:08] <chroot> in ubutu
[08:08] <Companion> ikonia, I am not reffering any one who
[08:08] <phlak_user> crash1hd: did you install it from the universe repos?
[08:08] <ikonia> Companion: ok - well keep it out of the channel please incase people look at it as a solution to ubuntu problems
[08:09] <Name141> When is the next LTS release scheduled?
[08:09] <dr_willis> chroot:  i just use  the tools, or do an image to my pendrive.
[08:09] <Companion> ikonia, Are people dumb enough to do it?
[08:09] <kaio> hi my 11.10 on gnome, it usually makes the window into "moving mode" with arrows around corners, whys hat?
[08:09] <crash1hd> phlak_user, I tried to do sudo apt-get install gnome... and it came back saying it couldnt find it
[08:09] <reisio> ikonia: what if it is a solution to ubuntu problems? :p
[08:09] <tahlvin> dr_willis: the whole pendrive thing persistence thing, you mentioned that unetbootin didn't work with this version.
[08:09] <ikonia> Companion: yes, more so if it appears people are recommending it, so please don't
[08:09] <crash1hd> phlak_user, the odd part is if i do ls -al ~/Desktop it shows the right stuff so I know the folder exsist
[08:09] <Companion> ikonia, Yes Ma'am
[08:09] <Strav> phlak_user: I don't have the issue with skype
[08:09] <auronandace> Name141: 12.04
[08:09] <dr_willis> tahlvin:   i dident even know unetbootin had a persistance option yet. i havent used it in ages. Check out the tools/guides on the pendrivelinux web site
[08:09] <aayush> Hi, I am running ubuntu 11.10, how can I log off the desktop session from terminal
[08:09] <ikonia> reisio: if it's a genuine solution, that will %100 work, that's fine, but seeing the differences between the two distros that quite unlikley on a regular basis
[08:10] <phlak_user> crash1hd: if you try installing from software center, it will automatically enable the Universe repo; else you might have to do it yourself in Software Sources
[08:10] <Name141> auronandace: approx month/year ?
[08:10] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  i tend to use the tools that put grub2 on the pendrive, then setup to boot the ISO file.
[08:10] <phlak_user> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[08:10] <Companion> ikonia, one question.... do you ever sleep?
[08:10] <reisio> ikonia: oh okay, what if it's on another distro's wiki?
[08:10] <chroot> dr_willis, how , you must use a software , not just copy the iso file to your pendrive
[08:10] <chroot> ?
[08:10] <auronandace> Name141: the names are based on the release date: 12 < 2012 04 < 4th month
[08:10] <ikonia> reisio: same reasoning, use common sense. If it is %100 compatible with ubuntu and fixes the issue in question, no problem
[08:11] <Henriquez> Does anyone know what could cause video (flash and avi) to run at double speed without sound in 11.10?
[08:11] <dr_willis> chroot:  you can use 'dd' to IMAGE the iso to a pendrive - starting with 11.10 - but that wont make a persistant save file.
[08:11] <crash1hd> phlak_user, I have universal repo but even in the software center I cant seem to find it
[08:11] <reisio> ikonia: okay what if it's just something I came up with and put online?
[08:11] <Strav> phlak_user: same problem with vlc though (if you have it installed)
[08:11] <phlak_user> crash1hd: apt-cache search gnome-tweak-tool
[08:12] <kaio> Henriquez, I just know analog sound of my laptop usually disappeared, looks like crashes from pulseaudio
[08:12] <phlak_user> Strav: ok
[08:12] <dr_willis> chroot:  i only use a persistant setup for a few special cases. I found them to be to fragile.
[08:12] <ikonia> reisio: if you have a good document, that works and causes no issues for users then put it up, if it's good for ubuntu, but a version in the ubuntu wiki for people to maintain
[08:12] <tahlvin> dr_willis: Oh goodness, these words are like gibberish to me. From what I understand it sounds like installing the entire os onto the flash drive would take up more room than just using it as a livecd. I have a 4gb flash drive to work with.
[08:12] <reisio> ikonia: so I can link to documentation that's useful
[08:12] <Name141> auronandace: I see. So if I installed an LTS version I wouldn't need to be bothered till then for a distro upgrade it seems.. ?
[08:12] <OceanEleven> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[08:12] <ikonia> reisio: sure,
[08:12] <OceanEleven> what does this mean ?
[08:13] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  that will be tight for you to do any real work.  and can fill up real fast.
[08:13] <aayush> Hi, I am running ubuntu 11.10, Unity,  how can I log off the desktop session from terminal
[08:13] <reisio> ikonia: okay, good to know before I thought linking to documentation that wasn't useful was the thing to do
[08:13] <phlak_user> Strav: ok it doesnt happen with Skype and any other gnome app
[08:13] <phlak_user> Strav: let me see if i have vlc
[08:13] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  a persistant setup will take up about a gb for the actual os. and leave you about 3gb of user storage.
[08:13] <auronandace> Name141: lts versions are designed to overlap so you can upgrade from 1 lts to another
[08:13] <crash1hd> phlak_user, will try after rebooting seeing if that fixes it :)
[08:13] <Strav> aayush: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart (should restart your session)
[08:14] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  but you have to be carefull with installing other apps. and dont do update/upgrades. or it can really fill up fast.
[08:14] <Strav> phlak_user: thanks :)
[08:14] <auronandace> Name141: So 10.04 will still be supported when 12.04 is released
[08:14] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I was hoping that I could disable automatic updates so that those don't take up any storage.
[08:14] <Name141> auronandace: I was just saying I wouldn't be bothered for over another year with a distro update if I used the LTS then ? Right ?
[08:14] <phlak_user> crash1hd: you never need to reboot ubuntu for this; a quick sudo apt-get update should do the trick
[08:14] <dr_willis> tahlvin: ive had issues with the persistant setups and getting things like the nvidia or ati drivers installed also.
[08:14] <crash1hd> phlak_user, is gnome-tweak-tool going to work on 11.04?
[08:15] <trijntje> how can I confirm i'm not running the beta but the latest version of oneiric?
[08:15] <Strav> crash1hd: I think gnome-tweak tool is intended for gnome3, since 11.04 is gnome2...
[08:15] <OceanEleven> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[08:15] <tahlvin> dr_willis: Oh, that's what you just said. I'm most interested in a nes or snes emulator, vlc or mpc, and a good audio program on my work computer without needing to hide it.
[08:15] <auronandace> Name141: lts are every 4 versions and you can update from 1 to the next, so there are about 2 years between versions
[08:15] <OceanEleven> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[08:15] <OceanEleven> what does it mean ^^^ ?
[08:16] <ikonia> OceanEleven: it's just a warning, ignore it
[08:16] <crash1hd> Strav, phlak_user that might explain why I cant see it I am on 11.04 gnome 2
[08:16] <OceanEleven> ikonia: thankyou
[08:16] <Strav> trijntje: try: uname -a in a terminal it should give you 3.0.0-12-generic  as the kernel version
[08:16] <reisio> OceanEleven: means it's not connected to anything :) local server
[08:16] <morning> trijntje, see system settings -->> system monitor --> system
[08:16]  * Companion hits ikonia with a pillow, don't you need some sleep?
[08:16] <reisio> ikonia: wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?
[08:16] <Strav> crash1hd: gnome-tweak tool is not installed by default... and I'm not sure if it's part of the 11.04 repos.
[08:16] <ikonia> Companion: please stop it
[08:17] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  your 'work' wont get mad at you rebooting one of their pc's into a differnt os? :)
[08:17] <phlak_user> crash1hd: ah
[08:18] <Strav> trijntje: if you're with this kernel iteration, I'm not certain but there are good chances you're with the latest.
[08:18] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I have the most innocent looking flashdrive that my captain gave me. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=cs&q=4gb+flash+drive+fish&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2786562828691702643&sa=X&ei=r0GZTvqSKoejiQKy_ZWrDQ&ved=0CFgQ8gIwAQ
[08:18] <crash1hd> phlak_user, any other ideas?
[08:18] <trijntje>  Strav, morning thanks: the  kernel version matches, and system shows 'Oneiric', so I guess i have the latest
[08:18] <Strav> trijntje: anyways, a small apt-get update + apt-get upgrade will set you to the current version
[08:19] <tahlvin> dr_willis: I couldn't not do something silly with it, and I used to blunder about in linux when I was in high school, but that was a long time ago.
[08:19] <phlak_user> crash1hd: not at the moment; my brain is on 11.10 :)
[08:19] <dr_willis> !info libavcodec
[08:19] <OceanEleven> ikonia: in virtualhost conf file , i have set --> ServerName quickstart.local  , then restarted apache , then i type --> quickstart.local in the web browser , but it doesn't load the directory i specified in DocumentRoot
[08:20] <trijntje> Strav: the weird thing is I have no updates, and I dont recall installing any since oneiric was released
[08:20] <OceanEleven> or <Directory /home/northwood/web/quickstart/public >
[08:20] <ikonia> OceanEleven: because you have no dns resolution on the client for quickstart.local
[08:20] <LarryB> heh
[08:20] <shailendra> hi
[08:20] <Strav> trijntje: that's strange, you should get updates daily
[08:20] <OceanEleven> dr_willis:
[08:20] <OceanEleven> ^^
[08:20] <crash1hd> phlak_user, mine too really (I have 2 ubuntu installs on this machine) since I installed 11.10 on a new drive to get it all setup and I had upgraded the old one from 10.10 to 11.04 but I did it the wrong way and did it as a reinstall overtop of itself (which caused it to remove a lot of apps) and I just noticed that the desktop is now showing the home folder content not the desktop content, I was trying to figure out why there was a
[08:20] <crash1hd>  desktop folder on desktop lol
[08:21] <morning> In Nautilus in Oneiric, I don't see the "location bar" (showing the file path as "breadcrumbs"). Has it been removed?
[08:21] <Strav> trijntje: check out /etc/apt/sources.list it should look like the following: http://pastebin.com/ytNAkxuh
[08:22] <crash1hd> morning, no like in 11.04 and 10.10 you can press ctrl L to see it
[08:22] <skan> здрасти!!!
[08:22] <morning> crash1hd: Thank you!
[08:22] <Companion> skan, this aint startrek please talk english
[08:22] <auronandace> !ru | skan
[08:23] <Strav> phlak_user: any luck testing the switching between vlc and a gtk app (that is if your vlc is using QT)
[08:23] <Pauluntu> how do i change the left pannel in ubuntu 11.10 like remove things off of it
[08:23] <OceanEleven> ikonia: Of what importance is then this line  --> ServerName quickstart.local ?
[08:23] <Strav> Pauluntu: left click on an icon, click remove from launcher
[08:23] <phlak_user> Strav: installing vlc now (after the upgrade, it vanished)
[08:23] <OceanEleven> ikonia: i'll read docs , thanks for ur help anyway
[08:23] <crash1hd> morning, no problem I was trying to figure it out earlier too :)
[08:23] <ikonia> OceanEleven: it's very important, it maps the hostname to the ip address the server will listen on
[08:24] <ikonia> OceanEleven: it also determains the hostname the server will pickout of the ip headers
[08:24] <Guest75708> Hi anyone unity tab is gone in ubuntu 11.10
[08:24] <skan> join #ubuntu-ru
[08:24] <Pauluntu> Strav: how do i add an item to it?
[08:24] <phlak_user> OceanEleven: what you type in the browser is the FQDN not your servername
[08:24] <skan> ????
[08:24] <phlak_user> OceanEleven: so you should type http://localhost
[08:24] <Strav> phlak_user: ok... got a similar issue to when I upgraded to beta2, freakin perl-base had dependency problem, ended up removing half of my desktop
[08:25] <Strav> Pauluntu: you search for something in the dash then just drag the icon in the panel
[08:25] <Strav> Pauluntu: you can also reorder them by dragging them out and then dragging them in.
[08:25] <morning> In Nautilus, the location field called up by ctrl-L is different from the "Location Bar," which in previous versions was available from the "View" menu. It's a different sort of navigation tool. And I don't see it.
[08:26] <incorrect> is gnome2 still in 11.10?
[08:26] <hansg01> Gnome Sushi nt avilable on software centre
[08:26] <ikonia> incorrect: no
[08:26] <crash1hd> skan, yes if you wish to chat in russian not english
[08:26] <tahlvin> dr_willis: before I activated my wireless card driver, so before I had internets, I deactivated automatic updating. Somehow, after that, the little power symbol in the upper right corner of the screen is telling me that I have updates.
[08:26] <trijntje> Strav: they are quite different, but both point to the oneiric repo's
[08:26] <tahlvin> dr_willis: isn't this against some law of robotics?
[08:27] <Pauluntu> Wow i must say i'm impressed with the new ubuntu :P i switch over from Arch its just wonderful
[08:27] <phlak_user> Strav: tried with vlc too (but it has a gtk gui)
[08:27] <vect0rx> okay so my wireless is entirely busted on my 11.10 laptop.  It connects to my WPA2 router after login and manages to actually cause the router to need resetting
[08:27] <crash1hd> in 11.10 I keep getting unlock your login keyring?
[08:27] <OceanEleven> ikonia , phlak_user i got it, thanks for help
[08:27] <trijntje> Strav: should I try copying your sources or could that break things?
[08:27] <hansg01> got it!
[08:28] <dr_willis> tahlvin:  ive seen it say i have updates on machiones that are not connected to the internet.. never figured outhow it did it
[08:28] <illmortal> Hey guys I' m trying to re-install Ubuntu 11.10, don' t I need to install grub right onto the Windows NTFS boot partition?
[08:28] <dr_willis> illmortal:  to the mbr of the hard drive  you are booting. /dev/sda normally.. not sda1
[08:28] <vect0rx> was trying to fix the "waiting for network configuration" problem.. it's gone now but the laptop can't talk to the router any longer over wired or wireless
[08:28] <reisio> illmortal: it's part of the install process
[08:28] <Strav> trijntje: nope, you'll probalbly miss the repo keys form some of them. If you have some that looks identical, then you're probably ok. try perhaps: apt-get dist-upgrade (perhaps your latest upgrade was compromised by something)
[08:29] <tahlvin> Welp, I'm going to call it a night. Thanks for the help, and I'll be back tomorrow, they don't pay me enough for me to not do this when they're not looking.
[08:29] <Strav> phlak_user: you don't have any regular QT application beside of skype?
[08:29] <tahlvin> Thanks again, you're all lovely people.
[08:29] <reisio> illmortal: to expand on what dr_willis said, the MBR is before the first partition, it is separate
[08:30] <dr_willis> Hmm.. having to tweak winff a bit on 11.10  to get it to.. well.. work. :(
[08:30] <illmortal> dr_willis my Windows installation is on a separate disk (sde) and my ubuntu Installation is on sdb
[08:30] <trijntje> Strav: apt-get says not updates. I've checked in software center, and I've only installed 10 updates since tuesday. Could that be enough to get me from beta to release?
[08:30] <dr_willis> illmortal:  so you Could put it on sdb. and tell bios to boot sdb. thats how i normally do such a setup
[08:30] <em2000> hello. I have problem with tty console. When I switch over with ctrl alt f3 and enter username and password it says login incorrect. What should be the problem. And how to disable password check on installing programs and etc.?
[08:30] <em2000> I am using 11.10
[08:30] <dr_willis> illmortal:  that way if ou remove linux later.. windows disk has not been touched
[08:31] <reisio> dr_willis: ordinary ffmpeg is better anyways
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[08:31] <The_BROS> How to make thunderbird and XChat always online?
[08:32] <illmortal> ya.. well I guess I have a different issue then o.O; when I try to install grub via ubuntu installation, it gives me a pop up error: Executing grub-install /dev/sdb failed. This is a fatal error.   dr_willis ^
[08:33] <Strav> trijntje: I seriously doubt it... but it depends of what you have installed. On my part, I have lots of kde dependencies so well, I got a bunch of updates for them in the latest day. Anyways, if your repo sources are ok and you have no broken packages and the latest upgrade command said you have nothing to install, you're most probably up-to-date.
[08:33] <em2000> anyone?
[08:33] <seshagiri> Hello everyone, While upgrading to 11.10, i encountered so many errors (http://pastebin.com/94CfGfKS). I've googled a lot, but didn't find any solution. Could some one help me?
[08:34] <DeltaEpsilon> can I pin something such as notes on my "desktop"?
[08:34] <trijntje> Strav: I have all *ubuntu-desktop packages installed, so I probably should have had *a lot* of updates
[08:36] <dr_willis> ffmpeg seems to be sending one of my 8 cores on my new system to 98% used. but the other cores are all at 0%       How odd.
[08:36] <Strav> trijntje: well ubuntu-desktop packages is kinda the defaults/basis, I cannot tel how often it's related packages are updated. Still for the reasons I just mentionned, I guess you're up-to-date.
[08:37] <Strav> trijntje: btw, what browser do you have?
[08:37] <trijntje> Strav: i mean edubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu etc, which all include their own programs
[08:38] <trijntje> Strav: firefox as main browser
[08:38] <Strav> trijntje: hell why on earth have you installed all that stuff? ;)  But yes, in that case I guess you should be overloaded with updates.
[08:39] <Strav> trijntje: let me check if I can find an update history so I'd be able to tell you precisely what updates I received from the major repos.
[08:40] <trijntje> Strav: I'm a translator, so I had to check if all translations got included
[08:40] <phiscibe> thats not alot of stuff, just common stuf realy
[08:40] <phiscibe> Strav: were u using any ppa's prior to upgrade
[08:40] <incorrect> oh well back to 11.04 for me
[08:40] <reisio> dr_willis: probably need a newer version, one with the ffmpeg-mt changes
[08:41] <Strav> phiscibe: yes, but they're usually disabled during the update why?
[08:42] <dr_willis> reisio:  yea. i noticed that winff in 11.10 - well for one dosent seem to work with the default 'x-terminal-emulator' setting. had to change that to be just 'xterm' and  had to enable/install stuff from medibuntu to get aac it seems.. :) then i notice that core stuff on my new box.
[08:42] <dr_willis> reisio:   and the presets were outdated. :)
[08:42] <marie_>  am still using maverick, should I upgrade to 11.10?
[08:42] <reisio> marie_: if you have the time
[08:42] <dr_willis> marie_:  if you want/need the new features. yes.. if you dont. no.
[08:43] <seshagiri> Hello everyone, While upgrading to 11.10, i encountered so many errors (http://pastebin.com/94CfGfKS). I've googled a lot, but didn't find any solution. Could some one help me?
[08:43] <Luci4n0> im off .. good day all
[08:43] <reisio> adios
[08:43] <phiscibe> are you using nvidia drivers strav
[08:43] <marie_> I tried it out and had some network issues
[08:43] <virusz>  23.943559] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[08:43] <virusz> [   24.649782] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (1276) terminated with stat
[08:43] <virusz> what is that error means?
[08:44] <jefimenko> after upgrading to 11.10, it seems that my volume controls and sound settings are greyed out
[08:44] <jefimenko> yet i can hear sound
[08:45] <esheep> jefimenko: welcome to progress
[08:45] <Strav> trijntje: from /var/log/apt/term.log, I can see that around the 14th I got lots of cups related stuff updated, network-manager got updated too. Perhaps you could take a look in that file.
[08:45] <Strav> phiscibe: nope
[08:45] <Strav> phiscibe: intel drivers
[08:45] <jefimenko> esheep: what?
[08:46] <Strav> phiscibe: are you asking about my indicators redrawing issue?
[08:46] <crash1hd> I cant seem to get Samba to open? ubuntu 11.10
[08:46] <virusz> why dmesg|tail showing that error in my 11.10
[08:47] <trijntje> Strav: I did get the cups stuf, but no network-manager
[08:48] <crash1hd> it ask for my password but thats it
[08:48] <phiscibe> strav sorry i was crossin gu with another ive read so many posts tonight im crosseued
[08:48] <Strav> trijntje: for network-manager, I also get the -dev package updated; I don't know if it's installed by default (I sometimes install the -dev packages for compiling stuff) but perhaps it's only the -dev that got updated.
[08:49] <Strav> (and the std package came along with it)
[08:49] <Strav> phiscibe: well while you're at it, do you mind a little test? I'm trying to reproduce a bug concerning those top right app. indicators.
[08:50] <phiscibe> i dont have 11.10 up yet and im using kde
[08:50] <trijntje> Strav: i'm too paranoid now, I think I'll just do a clean install to be sure I have the latest version
[08:50] <phiscibe> but otherwise ill try
[08:50] <marie_> where can I get a step by step guide for ubuntu
[08:50] <Strav> trijntje: good, you'll probably get rid of some misconfiguration by doing so anyways so, well good luck :)
[08:51] <Stanley00> Please help. I install gnome-shell but when I choose GNOME session when login (using brand new account), and there's just the wallpaper, nothing else. How to fix it?
[08:51] <vimojnguoi> #ubuntu-vn
[08:51] <Strav> phiscibe: thanks, unfortunately it's 11.10, and gnome/unity related.
[08:52] <Stanley00> vimojnguoi: what's that? Please dont spam here.
[08:52] <vimojnguoi> comment sever ubuntu-vn
[08:52] <Raven> marie_ : www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:52] <crash1hd> when i go to run system-config-samba it says that its missing stuff from pixmap and glade?
[08:52] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[08:52] <trijntje> Strav: thanks for your help
[08:52] <trijntje> Stanley00: what happens when you hit the super/windows key
[08:52] <marie_> Raven.....thank you very much
[08:52] <DeltaEpsilon> can I use a wacom pen tablet to write chinese characters on Ubuntu? and also draw pictures on Ubuntu?
[08:52] <DeltaEpsilon> can I use a wacom pen tablet to write chinese characters on Ubuntu? and also draw pictures on Ubuntu?
[08:52] <Strav> trijntje: np, sucks that you'll have to install anew though
[08:53] <Raven> marie_ :np
[08:53] <Stanley00> trijntje: nothing happen, the only key combination woks is "Ctrl + Alt + Delete" to log out
[08:53] <Strav> Anyone on 11.04 with gnome and okular or vlc (QT) or perhaps speedcrunch  installed? (I wish to reproduce a bug concerning  the switching between qt and gtk apps)
[08:55] <reisio> Strav: just report it, part of bug wranglers' job is to confirm
[08:55] <DeltaEpsilon> can I use a wacom pen tablet to write chinese characters on Ubuntu? and also draw pictures on Ubuntu?
[08:55] <phlak_user> !repeat| DeltaEpsilon
[08:55] <phiscibe> crash1hd:  try sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[08:55] <reisio> DeltaEpsilon: yes...
[08:55] <dr_willis> DeltaEpsilon:  drawing.. yes..  no ideaon chinease
[08:55] <phlak_user> DeltaEpsilon: why dont you go ahead and try it out? if you encounter issues, you can ask here
[08:55] <reisio> DeltaEpsilon: to be specific do you want to have what you draw converted into digital text characters?
[08:55] <Strav> reisio: well I just like to avoid them the triage of a non-issue if it's the case.
[08:56] <DeltaEpsilon> phlak_user, I can't return it back if it can't do the job
[08:56] <reisio> Strav: and I like to avoid people asking things over and over and not getting what they want when they could just go ahead and report the bug :)
[08:56] <DeltaEpsilon> reisi, no, it doesn't have to do that. I only want to make sketches with it and write chinese characters
[08:56] <phlak_user> DeltaEpsilon: ok. look here for ideas -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[08:56] <reisio> DeltaEpsilon: wacom tablets are pretty well supported by Linux
[08:57] <jefimenko> is a fresh 11.10 install much smoother than a 11.04 to 11.10 upgrade
[08:57] <Strav> reisio: hehe, yea you're right about this. My patience is kinda exhaused too.
[08:57] <jefimenko> cause i have been having lots of issues since upgrading
[08:57] <Strav> I'm off, cya all!
[08:57] <reisio> peace
[08:57] <crash1hd> phiscibe, will give it a try :) is it missing?
[08:57] <virusz> why dmesg|tail showing that error in my 11.10
[08:57] <phlak_user> jefimenko: in fact, when you boot off the usb/cd and select install, it asks you if you want to upgrade which is much better
[08:57] <_trine> I have decided the only answer to the 2 different upgrades to 11.10 which were a disaster is to do 2 reinstalls
[08:58] <dr_willis> i tend to always do clean installs
[08:58] <reisio> _trine: you could always switch to a distro with better QA :D
[08:58] <reisio> dr_willis: so wrong
[08:58] <dr_willis> reisio:  i rarely have issues with it..
[08:58] <dr_willis> and takes me very little time.
[08:58] <_trine> I like ubuntu but 11.10 upgrade is a disaster
[08:58] <reisio> dr_willis: beside the point
[08:59] <dr_willis> reisio:  you dident really make a point. but  its pointless to go on.
[08:59] <reisio> the point is you shouldn't have to reinstall to update
[08:59] <jefimenko> i always hesitate to upgrade cause i'm never sure what regressions will arise
[08:59] <crash1hd> phiscibe, ok well I dont get any errors any more but I dont get the application either
[08:59] <jefimenko> but this one has been particularly bad
[08:59] <reisio> and this seems to be more of an issue with Ubuntu than any other Linux distro
[08:59] <crash1hd> phiscibe, going to reboot to see if that fixes it :)
[08:59] <dr_willis> jefimenko:  i havent really seen that many people in here with upgrade issues. but i havnt really been keeping count.
[09:00] <cheche> i got stuck on the keyboard selection for installing ubuntu 11.10
[09:00] <phiscibe> k
[09:00] <vivid> zero issues with the upgrade here
[09:00] <jefimenko> my sound settings don't even start on log in
[09:00] <jefimenko> i think i thas something to do with pulseaudio
[09:00] <DalekBot>  WHATS UP!!!
[09:00] <jefimenko> i already solved a graphics issue
[09:00] <dr_willis> How could you even collect #'s on how many upgrades worked. vs how many had issues.. some sort of post-install survey?
[09:00] <phiscibe> jefimenko:  you could delete your pusleaudio configureatiojn
[09:00] <jefimenko> media keys issues...
[09:00] <Stanley00> Please help. I install gnome-shell but when I choose GNOME session when login (using brand new account), there's just the wallpaper, nothing else. How to fix it?
[09:01] <phiscibe> some where in your home folder is .pulse folder
[09:01] <reisio> Stanley00: gnome-panel ?
[09:01] <jefimenko> phiscibe: just move that dir then log out/in?
[09:01] <Stanley00> reisio:  gnome-shell
[09:01] <reisio> dr_willis: seems like 75% of the people here since the 11.10 release :p
[09:01] <reisio> Stanley00: install gnome-panel
[09:02] <Stanley00> reisio: ah, I see
[09:02] <ceephax> hey, can anyone give any help in getting my wireless firmware back, just updated to 11.10 (i think this will be my last update) and is no longer there?
[09:02] <reisio> dr_willis: for example ^
[09:02] <ceephax> lol
[09:02] <Raven> a post -install survey would be a good idea providing the upgrade was a success and your able to fill it out at the end...lol
[09:02] <reisio> but you're right, there's little point discussing it
[09:03] <Stanley00> reisio: It's installed already.
[09:03] <reisio> ceephax: can't you just repeat what you did to get it setup in the first place?
[09:03] <jefimenko> ubuntu is always doing radical changes in new releases, which i like... i like seeing the progress that's made
[09:03] <reisio> Stanley00: run its executable/s
[09:03] <xenland> So I like the new ubuntu upgrade but the only issue i have with it is this. When i open up gPHPEdit and click Edit -> open it wont take me to the folder i was working it.... it now shows me recently opened items this is kind of slowing me down as I must constantly search through a conundrum of folders. any suggestions on to make it open the folder i was last working in?
[09:03] <jefimenko> it just sucks when your upgrades blow up
[09:03] <jefimenko> i think it's hard to avoid with the big changes
[09:03] <reisio> xenland: sounds like more of a pref change in gPHPEdit itself
[09:03] <Stanley00> reisio: OK, wait a min, I will test it now
[09:04] <reisio> jefimenko: harder, but other distros seem to manage
[09:04] <crash1hd> phiscibe, ok this makes no sense I have 2 machines both with 11.10 installed and I just tried it on the other machine and its fine installed samba and the gui and it works (but on the machine I need it to work on) it doesnt work and I get the following from terminal ImportError: No Module named glade
[09:04] <crash1hd> phiscibe, could it be that I have something else installed that is conflicting?
[09:04] <xenland> reisio: I will check but i like how my settings were and i never touched them. and my computer is never used besides me... let me check again
[09:04] <hje841> I just installed 11.10 last night and turned back to Ubuntu Classic (Gnome desktop) any idea how to add panel applications, like system monitor? I don't get the context menu when I right click on the upper panel
[09:05] <xenland> I ask here becuase it looks like gPHPEdit is using the Gnome interface for file browsing so my assumption was that maybe Ububuntu and/or Gnome has change
[09:05] <dr_willis> hje841:  i belive the short answer is that the classic in 11.10 dosent allow much configuration. The webupd8 blog site had some info on tweaking it.
[09:06] <ceephax> reisio, it was all automatic and installed for me :S
[09:06] <dr_willis> I think its correct to say that 'classic' in 11.10 is still gnome-3 only with a similer look to the old gnome. its not the old gnome.
[09:06] <SetiAmon> Hey
[09:06] <reisio> it can work the same, though
[09:06] <reisio> SetiAmon: hi
[09:06] <xenland> resisio there are only 3 simple tabs for preferences there is editor, colour and php coding none of them say anything about opening preferences inside of all 3
[09:06] <paranoid_ndroid> I was upgrading to 11.10 and the power went off. Now I'm unable to boot. How can I fix this?
[09:06]  * tommylommykins waves. To inplace-upgrade or not? Are there ever stability issues wiht inplace upgrading?
[09:06] <reisio> tommylommykins: 'fraid so
[09:07] <reisio> tommylommykins: but I'd still do it
[09:07] <tommylommykins> reisio: ALways better to install from scratch?
[09:07] <SetiAmon> anyway to make pulseaudio work right?previously i just installed oss4 but now it seems oss4 isn't working right on 11.10 so is there a way to get pulseaudio from being a staticy distorted mess into something clear/clean?
[09:07] <jefimenko> paranoid_ndroid: lol... that is a horrible time for a power outage. i always think about that possibility during upgrades
[09:07] <dr_willis> tommylommykins:  i tend to always do clean installs when possible.
[09:07] <SetiAmon> i read the faqs and they don't help at all
[09:07] <tommylommykins> Well, I always keep my data separate, it's not hard for me to do the clean install
[09:07] <reisio> tommylommykins: no, if you find you have to install from scratch, you should really switch to a different distro
[09:07] <dr_willis> tommylommykins:  that makes it much easier then. :)
[09:07] <tommylommykins> reisio: That sounds like wishful thinking :P
[09:08] <reisio> tommylommykins: and when you say that, it makes me think you've never used another distro
[09:08] <reisio> being able to update without significant issues is usually priority one
[09:08] <reisio> an OS you can't update is quite a silly OS indeed
[09:09] <jefimenko> by that definition, ubuntu has been a silly one for me for the last few upgrades
[09:09] <jefimenko> this one more than others
[09:09] <phiscibe> crash install gtk2 or one of these pygtk, pygtk2, python-gtk, python-gtk2 MIGHT  fix it, but which ones i dunno, probably one with a 2
[09:09] <Stanley00> reisio: It hard to run that command, but it's like the clasic gnome, not gnome 3?
[09:09] <reisio> jefimenko: :D
[09:09] <auronandace> reisio: are you here just to troll?
[09:09] <dr_willis> being able to.. and having no issues.. are often differnt :)
[09:09] <reisio> auronandace: are you here just to call people trolls?
[09:09] <SetiAmon> I guess there is no way to make pulse audio work ON 11.10?
[09:09] <dr_willis> tommylommykins:  if you want to reduce the chance of any issues.. id suggest a clean reinstall.
[09:09] <reisio> SetiAmon: I'm sure there is
[09:10] <reisio> SetiAmon: but what is it you think you even need it for?
[09:10] <tommylommykins> cheers :)
[09:10] <reisio> SetiAmon: and for that matter OSS
[09:10]  * tommylommykins starts downloading the iso
[09:10] <tommylommykins> :)
[09:10] <phiscibe> crash1hd: last ditch effert would be sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:10]  * reisio shakes head
[09:10] <xenland> I'm back to say i am certain this time it is gnome or ubuntu changes.... the application "movie player" will only show the most recently used files instead of the last working directory
[09:10] <reisio> you guys may as well be using Windows with all the reinstalling you do
[09:10] <dr_willis> reisio:  whatever..
[09:10] <reisio> :p
[09:10] <xenland> thats two applications with the same problem it can't be a preerfernece issue
[09:11] <reisio> xenland: hrmmm
[09:11] <xenland> where is a good place to start for gnome settings
[09:11] <phiscibe> i am SERIOUSLY thinking of mut upgrading 4 machines here and just doing a fresh after one evening of the chatter in here ugg
[09:11] <SetiAmon> Well all audio is cracking/distorted in ubuntu,has been since karmic on my x-fi,the only thing that made it sound great was OSS4 and now when i install that my audio from my firefox dies
[09:11] <dr_willis> xenland:  whats the issue exactly? i missed it.
[09:11] <reisio> phiscibe: mut?
[09:12] <SetiAmon> out of the box sound in ubuntu for me is nothing but static,distortions and echo's
[09:12] <reisio> SetiAmon: and your PCM isn't at 100 or anything like that?
[09:12] <SetiAmon> no i checked alsa-mixer
[09:12] <reisio> SetiAmon: okay, did you ever try specifying a model in alsa-base.conf ?
[09:13] <xenland> dr_willis: its just a minor issue. The problem is when I go to program and open up a file it will show the most "recent files" that i worked with. this is very annoying as my folders go deep and this will cause me and extra 2 minutes per file open. the way it use to be is when press File -> open it would show the last directory i opened up a file. it doesn't do this any more it instead after the ubuntu updates shows the most rece
[09:13] <xenland> ntly worked with files.
[09:13] <SetiAmon> What do you mean
[09:13]  * K-Rich kicks nvidia in he nads, update yer friggin driver so my gfx card isn't blacklisted :/
[09:13] <K-Rich> GeForce 7300 Go :/
[09:14] <dr_willis> xenland:  i noticed that with a great many apps just today
[09:14] <SetiAmon> reisio:  How would i go about specifyinga model in alsa-base.conf?
[09:14] <K-Rich> or cononical should allow us to downgrade X so it works
[09:14] <xenland> dr_willis: glad I have someone whom can verify this
[09:14] <reisio> SetiAmon: usually there're examples in comments in the file
[09:14] <xenland> dr_willis: now just to find the perfences for gnome to change this setting....
[09:14] <reisio> SetiAmon: the list of model values can be found...
[09:15] <SetiAmon> my problem is even turning the volume gnob cuases the sound to echo into a staticy tearing sound
[09:15] <SetiAmon> reisio:  can you walk me threw that,were would i go for that .i have a x-fi
[09:15] <reisio> SetiAmon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto covers it some
[09:16] <dr_willis> xenland:  actually just now in arista. it did just default back to the last directory i accessed...
[09:16] <crash1hd> phiscibe, what does that do?
[09:16] <xenland> dr_willis: interesting... any thoughts what made the diff?
[09:16] <phiscibe> reconfigures all the packages on the sytem
[09:16] <dr_willis> xenland:  seems like its some how defaulting to selecting 'recently used'   when i first opened it and there was no selection to make.
[09:17] <SetiAmon> i'll try it i have only been awake for 2 days
[09:17] <dr_willis> xenland:  this is in arista
[09:17] <crash1hd> phiscibe, ok should it take time?
[09:17] <Stanley00> reisio: I have run that command, but I show up as GNOME classic session, not gnome 3 as I want. Can you suggest something else?
[09:17] <Kruptein> Hey  I've just installed the new ubuntu (like a lot of you)  but I want to do a fresh install so I downloaded the iso and burned it,  but before I overwrite my current system I want to know whether there are options to keep my current files?  and/or get a list with all programs that I have installed
[09:18] <Stanley00> !clone | Kruptein
[09:18] <Evilkiss> Hi to everyone!
[09:18] <crash1hd> phiscibe, cause I just ran it and it took less then 30 seconds
[09:18] <dr_willis> xenland:  thats how it worked for me in gedit.. first time i open file.. went to recently used.. selected a file. hit open again. it defaulted back to where  that file was at
[09:18] <crash1hd> phiscibe, but it didnt do anything
[09:18] <marw> how do i edit "indicator-me" menu? it's cluttered.
[09:18] <xenland> dr_willis:thanks I'll try it out
[09:18] <dr_willis> xenland:  let me try selecting a file FROM the recently used list
[09:18] <Evilkiss> Can somebody help me with ubuntu?
[09:18] <nicl> Hey all, just upgraded to 11.10 and now my internet speed is really really slow. I'm dual booting on a windows laptop and the internet works great under Windows so it must be something to do with the upgrade
[09:19] <dr_willis> xenland:  it defaulted to where the file was actually at.. not recently used that time also.
[09:19] <Stanley00> Evilkiss: just ask your question.
[09:19] <dr_willis> xenland:  so it 'seems' to be working properly.
[09:19] <Kruptein> Stanley00: okay thanks and do you have any idea about keeping my files in my home dir?  I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/5551/clean-install-from-ubuntu-10-04-to-lubuntu-10-10-without-losing-data    so that should be okay I guess?
[09:20] <Kruptein> with okay I mean that ubuntu can run the new version without any changes
[09:20] <xenland> dr_willis: that doesn't quite work but I think I will drag my working folders into the favs area for opening files that just work almost if not just as good as what i was doing before
[09:20] <Stanley00> Kruptein: is your /home on a diff partition?
[09:20] <Kruptein> !automate
[09:20] <nicl> so, anyone else had wireless/internet speed problems as a result of the upgrade? Any suggestions on troubleshooting /
[09:20] <xenland> I guess its called bookmarks not favorites
[09:21] <Kruptein> Stanley00: no .. :f
[09:21] <K-Rich> ubottu, you could also: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' > installed.list    then on reinstall: sudo apt get install `cat install.list`
[09:21] <xenland> nicl, not yet I'm LAN tho
[09:21] <Kruptein> okay I guess I need to copy everything to a seperate drive then?
[09:21] <Stanley00> Kruptein: then the only way I can suggest is backup your /home to some where else, then recover after you install new Ubuntu
[09:21] <nicl> xenland: ok, thanks for letting me know
[09:21] <Evilkiss> I have two computers, one of these is laptop and second is desktop. Desktop computer is connect to router via LAN and laptop via WLAN. When I shut down a desktop computer,  I can't access to Internet by laptop computer. Where is a problem?
[09:22] <Kruptein> Stanley00: I was afraid I had too :p  but thanks anywya
[09:22] <GirlyGirl> K-Rich: Ubottu asked you for help ... that was funny
[09:22] <Kruptein> *anyway :f
[09:22] <SgrA> I'm using Xubuntu, upgrading to 11.10 and would like to try out Unity. How can I install it?
[09:22] <Stanley00> Kruptein: no problem ;)
[09:22] <GirlyGirl> SgrA: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:23] <SgrA> Okay, thanks.
[09:23] <GirlyGirl> SgrA: Then at login screen select "ubuntu" as session type
[09:23] <xenland> nicl: I just tryed connecting through wifi and it dosen't work It dosen't even show an animating icon so im assuming it can even initate a request for wifi... aka broken drivers maybe
[09:23] <xenland> can't*
[09:23] <GirlyGirl> xenland: try "iwlist scan" and see the output
[09:23] <K-Rich> GirlyGirl, yeah i realized i was meaning to say that to Kruptein
[09:23] <nicl> xenland: Ok, well for me it connects ok, just very very slow ;( as in 1995 slow
[09:23] <illmortal> >_> is it possible that GRUB2 is broken from installing it onto the usb stick?
[09:24] <marw> so, no way to edit "indicator-me" icons and sections?
[09:24] <xenland> GirlyGirl: lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[09:24] <xenland> eth3      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[09:24] <xenland> eth2      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[09:24] <K-Rich> GirlyGirl, 2:23am, i have an excuse :P
[09:24] <crash1hd> phiscibe, thankyou for the help (I did a little more googling and found out and tried seems that python-glade2 was not installed) no idea why it wouldnt be again 2 machines identical other then hardware checked both 1 had it 1 didnt now they both have it and guess what it works :) so thanks again
[09:25] <crash1hd> IS there a way to print out what is installed on an ubuntu machine?
[09:26] <crash1hd> into like a text file
[09:26] <reisio> crash1hd: dpkg -l
[09:26] <Evilkiss> It is very odd problem, because on the desktop computer i have windows OS too, when I shut down computer via Windows OS, I have no problem to connect to Internet via laptop computer...
[09:26] <illmortal> First time I've ever had a problem doing a clean install of Ubuntu. What a shame. =\
[09:27] <Evilkiss> Can somebody help me?
[09:27] <K-Rich> crash1hd, dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}'
[09:27] <dr_willis> !clone
[09:28] <reisio> K-Rich: that work without egrep?
[09:28] <K-Rich> crash1hd, dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}' > installed.list
[09:28] <reisio> honestly I think using dpkg -l is simpler :p
[09:28] <K-Rich> hmmmmm, isn't grep part of standard install ?
[09:28] <reisio> K-Rich: yup
[09:28] <iceroot> how to look at the dependecies of a not installed package with apt-get/aptitude?
[09:28] <llutz_> iceroot: apt-cache depends packaename
[09:29] <reisio> guess it does
[09:29] <K-Rich> reisio: dpkg -l gives other info as well, what i showed lists only the package names
[09:29] <iceroot> llutz_: thx
[09:29] <crash1hd> thanks reisio and K-Rich :)
[09:29] <Axlin> crash1hd: dpkg --set-selections '*' > ~/installed-packages is another way to do it. Perhaps easier to remember. :-)
[09:29] <reisio> K-Rich: I mean dpkg -l instead of that aptitude insanity
[09:29] <Axlin> crash1hd: Sorry, I meant dpkg --get-selections.
[09:30] <crash1hd> Axlin, would that make a shorter list?
[09:30] <illmortal> finally!!! Grub installed. -.- now the fun begins, hopefully.
[09:30] <lupine_85> so, um. How on earth does one add extra workspaces under unity?
[09:30] <llutz_> Axlin: no '*' needed
[09:31] <indieross> grrr so i did something to my 10.10 system so now clicking on files does nothing, i can load programs to interact with files but i cannot do anything with files simply by clicking them
[09:31] <arpu> hello can somebody confirm this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/874897 ?
[09:31] <lupine_85> right-clicking the workspace switcher in the task? bar gives no options!
[09:31] <indieross> any ideas
[09:32] <iceroot> where are the package-keys stored? so that "apt-get source thunderbird" can check if the rsa-key is correct?
[09:32] <dr_willis> lupine_85:  used tobe the ccsm tool. under general tab - was  a way to add them
[09:33] <lupine_85> ah, it's using compiz under the hood?
[09:33] <K-Rich> Axlin, why add the '*'  works w/o it, also that displays installed, if you only want package names you would still want to us | awk '{print $1}'
[09:33] <dr_willis> lupine_85:  unity uses compiz - yes.
[09:33] <dr_willis> lupine_85:  theres a unity compiz pluin
[09:33] <dr_willis> brb.
[09:33] <virusz> gnome shell has better responses for me at least
[09:33] <llutz_> Axlin: K-Rich dpkg --get-selections    makes only sense it you want to feed the list to --set-selections later
[09:34] <itai_michaelson> hi, is it possible to make a deb out of a program i have installed on my system (this version is no longer available in the repo, but i want to use it on another system)?
[09:34] <lupine_85> yep, that works - thanks
[09:34] <lupine_85> back up to 9 :)
[09:34] <dimitri> please help me, i have just updated ubuntu to 11.10 and my printer canon lbp5100 down print.
[09:34] <Secluded1> can desktop cube be enabled in ubuntu 11.10?
[09:34] <dimitri> all my print jobs waiting
[09:35] <dimitri> someone help me ?
[09:35] <howaaa1> .
[09:36] <itai_michaelson> dimitri, have you tried reinstalling the drivers ?
[09:36] <phiscibe> dimitri: open a web browser, enter http://localhost:631  look at the jobs section and the printer secion for errors
[09:36] <phiscibe> or just click that
[09:36] <Eduard> Hello everyone ^^
[09:37] <dimitri> phiscibe, no errors ... only processing
[09:37] <Secluded1> question: can desktop cube be enabled in oneiric?
[09:37] <dimitri> phiscibe, processing the first and pending the others
[09:37] <Eduard> Does anybody know, if unity 2d can run on metacity if compiz is unavailable in 11.10?
[09:37] <jackoriper> hi, i using ubuntu 10.10 gui , usually watch porn, nor workspace 1,2,3,4 can be locked, not i can switch between the login account or can i have 2 gui login active at same time
[09:37] <pvh_sa> hey there, i just upgraded to 11.10, how do i change the link on the 'communicate' menu so it points to thunderbird, not evolution?
[09:38] <albech> any idea how to get the overlay graphics look nicer for volume control? i recall when using compiz it looked much better
[09:38] <Eduard> any ideas?? i'm kind off very interested
[09:38] <dimitri> phiscibe, and if i cancell the first the second began processing
[09:39] <kaio> why a few flip to a window will enter resize+move mode?
[09:39] <dimitri> i think the port is canched .... is normal to have  Connection:	ccp://localhost:59687
[09:39] <jackoriper> this is priority p1 issue
[09:39] <jackoriper>  i using ubuntu 10.10 gui , usually watch porn, nor workspace 1,2,3,4 can be locked, not i can switch between the login account or can i have 2 gui login active at same time
[09:39] <cheche> Afetr install ubuntu 10.10 I have got a grub> prompt
[09:40] <K-Rich> jackoriper, look into xnest
[09:40] <oCean> jackoriper: pleaes keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[09:41] <dimitri> phiscibe,  r u on ?
[09:41] <K-Rich> jackoriper, or xserver-xephyr
[09:41] <kaio> why a few flips to a window will enter resize+move mode? http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/3lqd1w9s/Workspace1_004.png
[09:42] <apanagio> \join #linux.sch.gr
[09:42] <albech> pvh_sa, default applications? System Settings --> System Info --> Default Applications?
[09:42] <phiscibe> are the BIG print jobs?
[09:42] <jackoriper> so i need to install now new desktop environment  xserver     xnesrt, xephyr  ?  can i active u gui screens /logins there ?
[09:43] <dr_willis> jackoriper:  Huh? can you clarify that question a bit more.
[09:43] <K-Rich> jackoriper, both of those will allow you to have GDM (ie normal login screen) in a window
[09:44] <jackoriper> K-Rich: how it can be help to me then ?
[09:44] <indieross> so i did something to my 10.10 system so now clicking on files does nothing, i can load programs to interact with files but i cannot do anything with files simply by clicking them
[09:45] <robinsch> ji
[09:45] <robinsch> hi*
[09:45] <indieross> jello
[09:45] <dr_willis> indieross:  as a test. you could make a new user. see if their desktop works normally
[09:45] <K-Rich> jackoriper, you said "...or can i have 2 gui login active at same time?"
[09:45] <robinsch> I am on new ubuntu 11.10 and I want to add myself to wireshark group, how do I do that with new settings?
[09:45] <jackoriper> K-Rich:  which is best of these two ?
[09:45] <qinn> Hey, does someone know where are menus in gnome-shell?
[09:45] <pvh_sa> albech, its set to thunderbird there, and when i go to'mail' it does the right thing but still i see an Evolution link. i wonder where that thing is configured....
[09:45] <micke_> sorry to say, but the new ubunu is what vista was for windows....  how do i remove unitu&gnome3 _
[09:46] <K-Rich> jackoriper, either should work, i haven't needed it for years
[09:46] <dr_willis> qinn:  move mouse to top left. use the applications or whatever 2 items it shows down to the right a little bit..
[09:46] <robinsch> i am thinking about switch to lts if the stable versions of ubuntu will be this buggy
[09:46] <dr_willis> qinn:  theres a gnome shell extension to add a more normal type  gnome menu to the top panel
[09:46] <K-Rich> qinn, upper left corner... Activities
[09:47] <qinn> dr_willis: Nah, window menu: File About Etc
[09:47] <hje841> to add apps to the panel in Ubuntu Classic in 11.10 -> Alt+Right Click
[09:47] <dr_willis> qinn:  Hmm..  with global menu - they should be at the top panel once you mouse up there.
[09:48] <hje841> how do I turn on the cam?
[09:48] <indieross> dr_willis a new user account works
[09:48] <dr_willis> qinn:  i dident think gnome-shell used global menu however.
[09:48] <indieross> know how to fix it on my current account
[09:48] <robinsch> no there is no gui front end for group management in new ubuntu 11.10?
[09:48] <dr_willis> indieross:  so your users settings got something messed up. thats a good sign at least. You could clean out their settings.
[09:48] <qinn> dr_willis: If i click "Terminal" it tell me to close it ;) Anyway, can live without menus
[09:48] <jackoriper> by god's grace if there would have been any method to lock workspace 1,2,3,4 with password..............i could have been blessed ... hope u know what for i am asking for
[09:48] <K-Rich> hje841, what do you mean 'turn on the cam' ?
[09:48] <windparadise>  hello, pls anyone know Japan Ubuntu Channel? or any Japanese around here?
[09:49] <K-Rich> hje841, i use cheese for pics and recording videos
[09:49] <albech> pvh_sa, im not entirely sure where it is that you see this evolution link.. mind explaining again?
[09:49] <hje841> K-Rich: in a website with some flash chat with games and such, there's a feature to use a cam, but I can't get on
[09:49] <kennyken> do we have VDPAU support for all relevant applications in Oneiric Ocelot?
[09:49] <dr_willis> qinn:  im not in gnome-shell right now to test. but i dont recall the gnome shell using global menu. so  i saw mine where they normally are :)
[09:49] <jackoriper> just any person who approach me for access my laptop for time being , i would just give him any workspace that is free
[09:50] <dr_willis> !brainstorm
[09:50] <reisio> windparadise: /msg alis list *ubunt*jp
[09:50] <qinn> dr_willis: New, default font is great success, I think I will upgrade. No worries.
[09:50] <virusz> gnome shell doesnt use global menu..menu located in aplication
[09:50] <robinsch> kind of odd since in GNU/Linux group management is core part of file security
[09:51] <K-Rich> hje841, did it ask for access to cam? flash that is?
[09:51] <llutz_> robinsch: whats wrong with adduser/addgroup/usermod?
[09:51] <hje841> K-Rich: the settings feature doesn't work in that flash thingy
[09:52] <Yamauchi> installer seems jacked for me...
[09:52] <windparadise> reisio the nickname "alist" does not exist
[09:52] <canarian_21> hello!
[09:52] <reisio> windparadise: alis, not alist
[09:52] <dr_willis> qinn:  never noticed it was a new one :) been using it on my old setups and even my android phone
[09:52] <reisio> windparadise: don't ask me why they chose such a poor name
[09:53] <canarian_21> i installed Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit. I could not find VirtualBox OSE and Sun Java from software Center. Are they removed from Software center?
[09:54] <albech> canarian_21, did you enable parter repos?
[09:54] <canarian_21> albech yes.
[09:54] <K-Rich> hje841, ummmm maybe under System > Preferences > Adobe Flash Player ?
[09:54] <albech> canarian_21, did you apt-get update?
[09:54] <dr_willis> !java
[09:54] <reisio> canarian_21: it's called virtualbox now
[09:54] <reisio> oh no it isn't, sorry
[09:54] <pratz> hey guys what is the best pdf tool for ubuntu ??
[09:55] <dr_willis> java is mentioned here -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[09:55] <reisio> canarian_21: in universe, though
[09:55] <reisio> pratz: for doing what
[09:55] <albech> pratz, best for what?
[09:55] <pratz> i have a pdf and it contains text fields, i need to change the name of the text fields, how can i do that ??
[09:55] <hje841> K-Rich: the systems menu is not there in 11.10
[09:55] <reisio> pratz: pdfedit
[09:55] <robinsch> llutz_:  usermod looks interesting,  but how can i see what groups a user already belongs to without opening /etc/passwd or /etc/group files
[09:55] <canarian_21> albech yes for pat cache
[09:55] <llutz_> robinsch: getent group user
[09:56] <pratz> reisio: hey dude i have pdf edit but i can not find text field on it
[09:56] <reisio> pratz: sure it doesn't just look like a text field?
[09:56] <albech> canarian_21, sudo apt-get install virtualbox should work
[09:56] <robinsch> llutz_: I guess that works to me, i still miss the old gui
[09:57] <pratz> reisio: how do i add a text field in pdf edit ??
[09:57] <reisio> pratz: no idea, but you should be able to edit one in the tree view on the right
[09:58] <llutz_> robinsch: better to use "adduser user group" to add a user to a group than using usermod, which easily messes things up if you do it wrong
[09:58] <reisio> better to use gpasswd
[09:58] <K-Rich> hje841, look here and see if you can set the site to allow. http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html
[09:58] <crash1hd> Is there a way of knowing the name of a program that was used to create a img file it was saved to file.img.gz and inside its just file.img?
[09:59] <dr_willis> crash1hd:  i doubt it. a .img file could be most anything..
[09:59] <reisio> crash1hd: does it matter?
[09:59] <canarian_21> Ubuntu has remove sun java from software center. And now what we gonna do ? We must install openjdk 7 and 6? I need Sun or oracle java 7 . I do not want add PPA on my system because sometimes they are not updating (after months).
[09:59] <dr_willis> canarian_21:  personally - im using openjdk7
[09:59] <voidr> hello, how can I easily customize lightdm?
[09:59] <AgentC> Hi
[09:59] <dr_willis> canarian_21:  if you need oracle java 7 - you go get it from their web site
[10:00] <reisio> AgentC: hi
[10:00] <eskizle-> hi
[10:00] <dr_willis> voidr:  theres a few unofficial lightdm tweaking tools out. saw them mentioned at the webupd8.org site
[10:00] <reisio> hi
[10:00] <eskizle-> i have ubuntu server
[10:00] <canarian_21> dr_willis is there any deb package from official site of oracle (or sun) which can update itself again from official site (like google does for chrome deb package)
[10:00] <eskizle-> i would like to install gnome on it to access it via vnc then
[10:00] <eskizle-> but i failed
[10:00] <voidr> thanks dr_willis
[10:01] <Calinou> one question, on unity it is possible to add a widget to show cpu/ram/network usage?
[10:01] <Calinou> like I used to do on gnome 2
[10:01] <crash1hd> reisio,  well I remember the program saying I would be able to mount the file
[10:01] <windparadise> 誰もが日本のここにしてくださいスピークス？
[10:01] <chroot> i forget my passwd
[10:01] <crash1hd> reisio, but for the life of me I cant remember the name of the program
[10:01] <Calinou> !ch | windparadise
[10:01] <reisio> crash1hd: mount -o loop ?
[10:01] <reisio> Calinou: jp :p
[10:01] <AgentC> I've an installed k-ubutu which makes problems, i dunno the root password. how can I get into a root-shell to change the password? i tried with a debian netinstall rescue mode, but it seems to, it cant mount the filesystem on sda1 but filesystem is ok so far.
[10:01] <eskizle-> i have an gnome interface via vnc server
[10:01] <eskizle-> but no menu
[10:01] <Calinou> ...german?
[10:01] <crash1hd> reisi, tried that says it needs to know the filetype
[10:01] <eskizle-> just a shell windwos
[10:01] <eskizle-> shell window
[10:02] <crash1hd> so I tried adding -t ext3
[10:02] <reisio> ch is for switzerland
[10:02] <reisio> zh is chinese
[10:02] <dr_willis> canarian_21:  no idea.  I am using the open sourced java.
[10:02] <reisio> but he's typing japanese
[10:02] <eskizle-> and when i type d it dont display it
[10:02] <eskizle-> :/
[10:02] <reisio> crash1hd: you shouldn't need to know the file type
[10:02] <dr_willis> Oracle is on my 'company to avoid' list :)
[10:02] <canarian_21> dr_willis anyway thank you :)
[10:02] <Stanley00> !jp | windparadise
[10:02] <hje841> K-Rich: sorry. no good :S
[10:03] <canarian_21> dr_willis me too but jdownloader is not working fine with openjdk 6 also with 7 :(
[10:03] <llutz_> crash1hd: if its a hdd-image you need losetup for the offset before you can mount partitions from it
[10:03] <reisio> crash1hd: try 9660 though I guess
[10:03] <chroot> help , i forget my passwd in ubuntu , and i can't login the sys, what should i do
[10:03] <crash1hd> llutz, ok how do I do that?
[10:03] <K-Rich> windparadise, 私はGoogle Translateを使用して試して使います
[10:03] <reisio> Stanley00: already told him that
[10:03] <dr_willis> !resetpassword
[10:03] <incorrect> does anyone else have ldap working from a fresh installation?
[10:04] <Kingsy> has anyone been using 11.10 in classical gnome?
[10:04] <reisio> chroot: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/user-forgottenpassword.html
[10:04] <Kingsy> or have you guys just started using the new gnome system?
[10:04] <llutz_> crash1hd: losetup /dev/loop0 foo.img && fdisk -l /dev/loop0
[10:05] <chroot> reisio, thanks , i will go
[10:05] <llutz_> crash1hd: does it list partitions?
[10:05] <crash1hd> llutz, no its just a single partition
[10:05] <hje841> is 11.10 using Adobe Flash?
[10:05] <Flynsarmy> 11.10, gnome classic, ambiance theme. How can I fix these awful, 90's looking folder icons? http://i.imgur.com/A6O30.png
[10:06] <llutz_> crash1hd: i told you thats for HDD-images, not partition-images
[10:06] <Kingsy> Flynsarmy: are you using gnome classic on 11.10 ?
[10:06] <kennyken> do we have VDPAU support for all relevant applications in Oneiric Ocelot?
[10:06] <sherif_> Hello
[10:06] <Companion> hello shelest`
[10:06] <Companion> sherif_, *
[10:06] <reisio> Flynsarmy: change icon theme :p
[10:06] <sherif_> i've a problems
[10:06] <sherif_> in ubuntu 11.10
[10:07] <Kingsy> Flynsarmy: what do you think about it? cos I am not impressed at ALL.. the time is in the middle of the top bar.. it looks awful
[10:07] <Companion> sherif_, ask and be answered
[10:07] <Flynsarmy> Kingsy: yes. nvidia proprietry are installed and 3d etc works. Folders look fine on desktop and in nautilus but the open window uses these diff icons
[10:07] <Calinou> change the icon theme
[10:07] <Flynsarmy> Kingsy: you can edit that by holding alt while right clicking
[10:07] <sherif_> the bluetooth is not working though it's activated
[10:07] <Kingsy> oh yeah I see
[10:07] <Flynsarmy> Kingsy: I currently have classic looking identical to 10.10 :) set the sys tray to show all icons again...it's perfect. exactly how ti should be
[10:07] <crash1hd> llutz, ok so say it is a partition img. then what?
[10:07] <reisio> kennyken: mplayer does
[10:07] <sherif_> it worked in the beta edition
[10:08] <robinsch> llutz_:  I also remember old gui allowed me to disallow some access to certain things like tape drives: http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Image:Ubuntu_linux_user_privileges2.jpg
[10:08] <sherif_> but now it's not
[10:08] <Kingsy> Flynsarmy: how do you set the sys tray?
[10:08] <reisio> crash1hd: then it probably wouldn't be asking you for the type
[10:08] <Flynsarmy> Kingsy: www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[10:08] <Kingsy> thanks
[10:08] <llutz_> crash1hd: mount -o loop foo.img /mnt           if it doesn't work, its likely not a raw-image
[10:08] <kennyken> reisio, have you tried playing 1080p content and watched the cpu load?
[10:08] <llutz_> crash1hd: or simply broken
[10:09] <sherif_> and
[10:09] <reisio> kennyken: no, but you will notice the improvement
[10:09] <sherif_> when i wrote the command "hcitool scan
[10:09] <sherif_> there was no device
[10:09] <sherif_> :S
[10:09] <robinsch> llutz_: is that possible with cli?
[10:09] <reisio> sherif_: you should try to use the GUI configuration wizard
[10:09] <kennyken> reisio, thanks for this information
[10:09] <reisio> sherif_: the commandline tools are a mess right now
[10:09] <Kingsy> Flynsarmy: how come, it doesnt have the feature where if you drag a window against the side of the screen you can expand it half or full screen?
[10:09] <andycc> Hello all, I've just tried installing Ubuntu from a USB drive and it errored out on me in the second half of the installation. I reported a bug already, should I paste the link?
[10:10] <Flynsarmy> Kingsy: I'd say that'd be a ccsm feature. install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:10] <sherif_> so how can i use the conf wizard
[10:10] <sherif_> am new to linux
[10:10] <llutz_> robinsch: if you know what group the devices belong to, yes
[10:10] <Flynsarmy> Kingsy: err, i meant a compiz feature :) ccsm will let you play around with the various tools compiz provides
[10:11] <reisio> kennyken: don't know if you still have to do this or not: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD#Playback_using_VDPAU_acceleration
[10:11] <canarian_21> http://textsnip.com/5534f7 Here is my conky code. Is not working on gnome shell which woks perfect on Ubuntu 11.04 gnome 2. Can somebody help me?
[10:12] <Flynsarmy> reisio: change icon theme? all icons look fine (including nautilus in list view) however the open dialogue uses completely diff icons for unknown reasons
[10:12] <Flynsarmy> reisio ahh nm, it's just komodo ide it seems. when i open in gedit it's fine
[10:12] <Jonny> morning everyone
[10:12] <reisio> morning
[10:13] <incorrect> damn what has happened to the ldap auth in ubuntu
[10:13] <robinsch> llutz_: see I thought ubuntu was all about accessability, opening wonderful world of linux to regular people but now it seems to short change powerusers
[10:13] <kennyken> reisi, i was asking because it is not granted that there are vdpau working vdpau packages for a freshly released ubuntu version, i had this before , there were only vdpau packages for LTS versions and it took month until they were available and working
[10:13] <Jonny> IHas anyone had screen issues wth 11.10 and ati drivers?
[10:13] <kennyken> reisio
[10:14] <reisio> kennyken: downer
[10:14] <reisio> can always compile them yourself
[10:14] <Kingsy> Flynsarmy: also, how come there is no "system" menu?
[10:14] <majdekalel> i need a good tool to scan network for devices with ubuntu (command line not gtk) ???
[10:15] <Flynsarmy> Kingsy: it was moved into applications - system tools - system settings
[10:15] <Jonny> a lot of people are are having the sae issues and I am not surehow to fix. All the test on the meus areblock and the screen is not working well
[10:15] <kennyken> reisio, not really, as there were special dependencies neccessary which weren't available for this ubuntu version
[10:15] <Kingsy> Flynsarmy: ok I have install compiz.. where is that in the menus?
[10:15] <Flynsarmy> open a terminal, type sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:16] <chroot> reisio, it dosen't work in grub maintaninence
[10:16] <reisio> kennyken: hrmm?
[10:16] <Kingsy> Flynsarmy: I have done
[10:16] <kennyken> compiling myself would give me a really hard time, having my ubuntu version stuffed with broken dependencies
[10:16] <reisio> chroot: livecd, then
[10:16] <robinsch> anyone else getting bunch of updates to cups after installing the printer drivers?
[10:16] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to enable nouveau drivers? I installed nouveau firmware but don't know how to turn it on
[10:16] <robinsch> i am not sure if I should update
[10:16] <sudipta> the format option on right click is not enabled in 11.10...how to enable it?
[10:16] <kennyken> reisio, that is a little too much effort, dont you think?
[10:16] <Kingsy> Flynsarmy: once its installed how do you access it?
[10:17] <crash1hd> llutz, ok well I have a couple of them so I extracted the img of the smallest one ran sudo mount -o loop file.img target and that worked but is there a way to do this without having to extract it from the .gz file?
[10:17] <kennyken> thats why i'm asking before upgrading
[10:17] <brown12> Question on the sound icon and power icon in the gnome3.2 menu. Since update, they are no longer there. Is that by design?
[10:17] <reisio> kennyken: gotcha
[10:17] <Flynsarmy> Kingsy: run ccsm. you might have to enable the run menu as per that URL i sent you earlier if you haven't already
[10:17] <Jonny> has anyone had any ssues with ati drivers and 11.10?
[10:17] <reisio> frankly I'd consider having to ask too much effort :p
[10:17] <Kingsy> oh I got it
[10:17] <robinsch> ubuntu LTS vs Stable?
[10:17] <reisio> kennyken: in Gentoo it's just emerge -DNatuv world, done :p
[10:18] <Jonny> yawn ..... :)
[10:18] <reisio> robinsch: what?
[10:18] <sudipta> the format option on right click is not enabled in 11.10...how to enable it?
[10:18] <kennyken> reisio, same with freeBSD, which i normally use, but since it lags multimedia functionality massively i switched to ubuntu
[10:18] <kennyken> not being very happy with it
[10:18] <robinsch> is gentoo still alive?
[10:19] <daniel__> anyone know of a screensaver for ubuntu that takes random articles or images from wikipedia?
[10:19] <reisio> kennyken: maybe time for Gentoo then :p
[10:19] <Jonny> IHas anyone had screen issues wth 11.10 and ati drivers?
[10:19] <reisio> robinsch: barely affected by the creation of Ubuntu at all
[10:20] <daniel__> Jonny: what kind of issues
[10:20] <kennyken> reisio, are there repositorys for already compiled binary packages in gentoo?
[10:20] <robinsch> i would use gentoo but my family would kill me
[10:20] <Jonny> daniel__, the screen is very blocky around the text and also some other areas at times
[10:20] <daniel__> i had screen issues with 11.04
[10:20] <kennyken> reisio, i would only compile if theres is a need to (needing special options in a package or something)
[10:20] <reisio> kennyken: yeah but they tend to be few and far between, outside of the important ones at tinderbox
[10:21] <reisio> kennyken: there's Sabayon's binaries, but I wouldn't really trust those
[10:21] <Jonny> daniel__ apparently something to do with fglrx im not sure though
[10:21] <sudipta> the format option on right click is not enabled in 11.10...how to enable it?
[10:21] <reisio> sudipta: for... devices?
[10:21] <DarwinSurvivor> blist
[10:21] <DarwinSurvivor> ooops, wrong window
[10:22] <kennyken> reisio, then i wouldnt want to go with gentoo, thats the big advantage with freeBSD, you have everything binary directly coming from the freeBSD package maintainers (trusted), and if you like to, you can just compile everything but you dont have to
[10:22] <daniel__> Jonny: i dont seem to have any issues anymore with 11.10
[10:22] <daniel__> flash seems to leak memory though
[10:22] <DarwinSurvivor> I'm trying to upgrade ubuntu with the alternate-cd (md5 checks out) but everytime I hit "add volume" in software sources, it unmounts it!
[10:22] <daniel__> i installed 64 bit for the first time, and it seems slower than the 32bit
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[10:22] <reisio> kennyken: yeah, but with that whole lagging behind thing, apparently :p
[10:22] <kennyken> i dont have the time to compile everything, and there is not really a need to do that, as performance is not a argument at all for a desktop system
[10:22] <K-Rich> kennyken, Arch Linux is good too
[10:22] <incorrect> change, oh i hate you change!
[10:23] <reisio> daniel__: which version
[10:23] <DarwinSurvivor> then software sources claims there is no cd
[10:23] <Jonny> daniel__ , was there anythig you have done to fix the issue?
[10:23] <sherif__> hello
[10:24] <reisio> kennyken: it is for things like vdpau, but that doesn't involve 'everything' indeed
[10:24] <daniel__> reisio: 11.10, flash 11
[10:24] <daniel__> Jonny: no, just upgraded to 11.10
[10:24] <reisio> daniel__: which 11
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[10:24] <kennyken> reisio, yes
[10:24] <reisio> daniel__: lot of variety in reliability and performance in 11 minor versions
[10:24] <daniel__> reisio: stable
[10:24] <reisio> stable for Ubuntu?
[10:24] <daniel__> yeah
[10:24] <SetiAmon> reisi:
[10:25] <AgentC> where can I get an ubuntu CD with integrated root-rescue shell ?
[10:25] <daniel__> but i have the same issue with arch linux, after playing a video online for a few minutes it becomes a slideshow
[10:25] <daniel__> whole pc slows down
[10:25] <Jonny> <daniel__: oh oki think i will reinstall my ati drivers then and see twhat happens
[10:25] <sudipta> the format option on right click is not enabled in 11.10...how to enable it?
[10:25] <brown12> Sorry to repeat: can anyone point to docs on the sound icon in the unity shell? Thanks in advance.
[10:25] <reisio> daniel__: you have a graphics card?
[10:25] <DarwinSurvivor> has anyone gotten ubuntu to upgrade off a mounted alternate disk ?
[10:26] <bfreis> Is it normal that after setting up a Google Account on "Online Accounts" on Gnome Shell I won't be able to connect, and my calendar won't be sync'ed to my Google's Calendar?
[10:26] <daniel__> no reisio, integrated on my laptop
[10:26] <daniel__> but still, it used to be sufficient before i started using 64bit
[10:26] <daniel__> i have 4gb RAM
[10:26] <bfreis> It seems that my "contacts" have been sync'ed, but not the calendar
[10:27]  * jasef loves 11.10. gnome-shell is one of my favourite packages :3
[10:27] <stdusr> Hi there. My father updated his laptop from 10.04 or 10.10 or 11.04 (he is not sure) to 11.10. ubuntu stops at "checking battery state". any ideas?
[10:27] <Flynsarmy> Update manager doesn't appear in sys tray in gnome classic in 11.10. any ideas on how to fix? 11.04 method of /apps/update-manager/auto_launch=false no longer works
[10:27] <dimitri> someone can be help me to install canon lbp 5100
[10:27] <bfreis> stdusr, I have exactly the same issue here
[10:28] <Kingsy> argh I still don't get this.. gnome classic still has a MASSVIE top bar.. the icons and panels look ugly as they are a different color to the bar.. wtf? I cant seem to change it
[10:28] <bfreis> stdusr, I think I solved it by choosing GDM instead of LightDM (sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm)
[10:29] <Kingsy> I also have no idea how you get all of the icons back in the systray
[10:29] <incorrect> where did sun jdk go?
[10:29] <Fum> Hello
[10:29] <Kingsy> can someone offer some advice??
[10:29] <dimitri> please help me to print with canon printer
[10:29] <kabads> Just upgraded to 11.10 - I think unity is loading but the sidebar won't show - any ideas what might be missing?
[10:29] <K-Rich> KingPin, don't smoke.
[10:29] <K-Rich> good advise
[10:30] <stdusr> bfreis, we will try
[10:30] <incorrect> i guess oracle java is no longer packaged?
[10:30] <daniel__> reisio: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M92 LP [Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[10:30] <reisio> incorrect: indeed
[10:30] <incorrect> reisio, oh well
[10:31] <Fum> I have a stupid problem. My Windows box has Internet via USB modem. I installed ubuntu on a second PC and connected them via ethernet. Is it possible for Ubuntu 11.10 to gain Internet access from a Windows 7 PC?
[10:31] <dc5ala> incorrect, hmm i have a sun-java6-jdk installed here
[10:31] <incorrect> dc5ala, did you upgrade or fresh install?
[10:32] <Kingsy> lol its actually quite funny how non obvious this is
[10:32] <dc5ala> incorrect, upgraded, just see the packages i have installed ends with -natty
[10:33] <sroecker> hi, how can I change the number of workspaces in unity2d? After upgrading to oneiric I've only got 1 workspace
[10:33] <incorrect> dc5ala, i did an upgrade and it worked, but then i bricked everything by messing too much
[10:33] <incorrect> so i did a fresh install to see what you get
[10:33] <AgentC> where can I get an ubutu boot-CD with rescue shell
[10:34] <kabads> why isn't my unity sidebar showing up? Is there a missing package?
[10:34] <sroecker> AgentC: did you try the alternative cd from releases.ubuntu.com ?
[10:34] <Jonny> can anyone recomend the best way to install ati drivers?
[10:34] <dc5ala> incorrect, wondering then why it kept this packages :)
[10:34] <incorrect> so i have to get java the old fashioned way now
[10:35] <K-Rich> incorrect, openjdk ?
[10:35] <K-Rich> i think is in repos
[10:35] <Kingsy> ok, can someone tell me how to decrease the hight of the top bar in gnome classic on 11.10 ?
[10:36] <omri> Hi im running ubuntu 11.04 and need some help disabling SYN flooding protection as incoming connections from bittorrent are counted as SYN flooding and dropped
[10:36] <AgentC> sroecker: no. a friend have a preistalled ubuntu with forgotten root-pw , i need to reset the PW to solve the other problems
[10:36] <truepurple> "The playback of this movie requires a text/html decoder plugin which is not installed." but I just finished watching part of the video file while waiting for the rest to download
[10:36] <incorrect> K-Rich, isn't that really slow for running eclipse?
[10:37] <reisio> truepurple: makes no sense anyways ;P
[10:37] <kabads> unity --reset fixed it
[10:37] <AgentC> sroecker: dont know there is a rescue-boot in grub menu, if yes i know what to do.
[10:37] <Fum> ohkay. It works. I just did sudo ifconfig eth0 ipaddress, reconnected and it works :D
[10:37] <sroecker> AgentC: did you try "sudo -i"? Should work if you know the password of the default user
[10:37] <AgentC> sroecker: Ill get the computer in 1,5 hours for repair and must know what i have to do
[10:37] <stdusr> bfreis, now he stops at starting pulse audio
[10:38] <hypertyper> I'm thinking about moving from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.10. Is there much point in a clean install or should I just update?
[10:38] <truepurple> reisio, looking at it closer, it seems the download got messed up, the part file still exists, and the supposed whole file is like 26k in size
[10:38] <AgentC> sroecker: sudo -i ?
[10:38] <Kingsy> also, how come when I upgraded ubuntu and installed gnome classic I have lost all of my icons in my top gnome bar??
[10:38] <Kingsy> and the icons in the system tray?
[10:38] <incorrect> can i remove the sidebar?
[10:39] <b4lu_> hello everybody, just upgraded to 11.10 and now my wireless stopped working (broadcom BCM43225). till now i had the proprietary driver "Broadcom STA wireless driver" installed and it worked fine. now it's still displayed as activated under "System Settings -> Additional Drivers" but my wireless sate (from the system try icons) is saying "device not ready". i read through the forums but am a little bit confused as i am relativly new to ubuntu. any 
[10:39] <AgentC> sroecker: would that work : sudo -i bash ..... passwd root ?
[10:39] <sroecker> AgentC: gives you an interactive root shell. Sudo usually works for the first installed user if you know the password
[10:39] <sroecker> yes
[10:39] <AgentC> sroecker: user-password i know
[10:40] <sroecker> AgentC: then this should be the easiest way
[10:40] <jasef> I thought there was no root password in ubuntu O-o
[10:40] <sroecker> usually there isn't
[10:40] <Sidewinder1> !sudo | jasef
[10:41] <andy> Hi Guys, good to be back
[10:41] <andy> :)
[10:41] <jasef> Thanks, Sidewinder1, but I already knew about sudo :P that's why this talkl about forgotten root password confused me :P
[10:41] <tree> hey I currently have Ubuntu installed and I want to install Windows XP but my computer doesn't boot the Windows XP Cd
[10:41] <andy> just wondering if anyone hows how to fix the issue with ati and fglrx with ubuntu 11.10/
[10:41] <andy> ?
[10:41] <Hagbardceline> tree boot you pc from the cdrom?
[10:41] <AgentC> sroecker: when my friend boots up the kde , his usb keyboard and mouse does not work until they where pluged out and in again. what to do ?
[10:42] <Sidewinder1> jasef, Understood, sometimes the distinction can be a little confusing. :-)
[10:42] <tree> unfortenutely no, it doesn't
[10:43] <andy> seems the title bar and all txt is distorted with graphics issues :s not sure how to fix it.
[10:43] <sroecker> AgentC: hmm, you could look if they are recognized by lsusb
[10:43] <omri> anyone?
[10:43] <andy> I would really like my computer back
[10:44] <spark_> hmmm
[10:44] <cutiyar> evry time switchin on my 11.10 under ubuntu word say waiting to network configuration so that delay the boot , how to fix it?
[10:44] <AgentC> sroecker: OK, I'll try. thank you very much
[10:44] <spark_> hmmmm
[10:44] <usalabs> hi everyone, I have a real serious problem,,, I'm using Ubuntu Lucid LTS, every 30s there is something that is taking precedence over any other process, and it's disrupting using 3D programs such as blender or wings 3D, by making everything run slower, even the mouse starts jerky movements, I can't find anything in system monitor thats dragging the system down, or even using ps aux, what can be dragging down the system every 30s?
[10:44] <Flynsarmy> anyone know how to get nouveau running on 11.10? I've installed nouveau-firmware but don't know how to get ubuntu to use them
[10:45] <andy> thanks everyone for assistance everyone :)
[10:45] <scarleo> usalabs: check with top
[10:45] <scarleo> usalabs: can be anything, hard to say
[10:45] <andy> luckily graphics on the laptop our good as it is all nvidia
[10:46] <andy> :_
[10:46] <usalabs> I tried top, and nothing,,, cpu usage is nominal
[10:46] <andy> -)
[10:46] <Kingsy> guys how do I get all of my system tray icons back in 11.10 gnome classic?
[10:46] <scarleo> usalabs: so then that is not your problem
[10:46] <usalabs> when it happens, there's even a typing delay between characters
[10:46] <andy> would be great to get my computer back :)
[10:46] <MCR> Hi :)
[10:46] <Fum> How do I shut down X? I nvidia drivers won't install with it running, and killing it just instantly restarts the Xorg
[10:47] <th__> hello. how do i add the weather to "top bar"?
[10:47] <yqjiangxin> sudo stop gdm
[10:47] <andy> anyone had the issue with ati and fglrx with ubuntu 11.10?
[10:47] <th__> andy, me
[10:47] <usalabs> it lasts for about 10s then it vanishes and everything resumes until the next 30s
[10:47] <Fum> yqjiangxin, thanks, I'll try it.
[10:47] <scarleo> usalabs: try going through your logs to see if something seems to be the culprit
[10:47] <yqjiangxin> to shut down X, you can try sudo stop gdm
[10:47] <MCR> Please bring back Emerald for Compiz++ !!!
[10:48] <andy> th__ did you manage to fix it?
[10:48] <usalabs> any particular log?
[10:48] <th__> andy, installed kdm :P
[10:48] <stdusr> we will reinstall ubuntu...
[10:48] <th_> fake!
[10:48] <Flynsarmy> how od i set up ubuntu one to back up my apps' settings as described in the press release?
[10:48] <th__> th_, :D
[10:48] <andy> th__ you installed kdm?
[10:48] <scarleo> usalabs: messages/syslog kern.log
[10:48] <th__> andy, yes
[10:48] <th__> andy, works like a charm
[10:48] <andy> so you are not usuing ubuntu?
[10:48] <th__> andy, i am
[10:49] <th__> how come?
[10:49] <usalabs> scarleo looking now
[10:49] <scarleo> usalabs: try kill all processes you're not using, sometimes if you have firefox in background some pages reload the window
[10:49] <th__> how do i add the weather applet to "top bar"?
[10:49] <Fum> yqjiangxin, "unknown job: gdm"
[10:49] <tim_h> Hi! i have a problem with the 11.10 update. every time i start my pc the boot progress stops at a certain point and just wont continue. when i press "esc" i can read the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708482/
[10:49] <benwithjamm_in> Hi all, got xubuntu 11.10 installed with compiz + emerald. All working well except I cant see how to add more horizontal workspaces. Workspace settings and increasing from 1 to 4 has no effect and i cant see any options in CCSM. I currently just have two horiz ones but would like 4? Thanks
[10:49] <andy> th__, so when you installed kdm it just worked thereafter?
[10:49] <scarleo> usalabs: or any other browser oc
[10:49] <StevenR> hrrm. where's the battery monitor? I used to have a little battery status picture, but in oneiric, it's no longer present
[10:49] <ronspirin> hi, i'm on oneiric and i try to remove libreoffice, but when i apt-get remove libreoffice-*, it wants to install abiword/gnumeric instead. how can i just remove libreoffice without installing a replacement?
[10:49] <th__> andy, yes. gdm didnt let me go forward
[10:50] <incorrect> is there anyway i can get to advanced options?
[10:50] <usalabs> I only have XChat running right now, and it's still doing it
[10:50] <incorrect> i want to change the font size
[10:50] <th__> how do i add the weather applet to "top bar"?
[10:50] <CyborgSmurf> I wonder if I will lose my data when upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10?
[10:50] <Mrokii> Hi. Synaptic doesn't work for me on 11.10. It crashes with the error-messages: "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range' / what():  vector::_M_range_check Aborted"
[10:50] <scarleo> usalabs: you have enough RAM? Maybe you have some swapping
[10:50] <andy> th__, when you install kdm it will work in place of gdm?
[10:51] <th__> andy, yes. just do a dpkg reconfigure
[10:51] <ronspirin> CyborgSmurf: create a backup. you never know what will happen :P
[10:51] <andy> th__ have you any steps you did to install it?
[10:51] <CyborgSmurf> ronspirin: how do I do a backup?
[10:51] <sroecker> benwithjamm_in: I also can't seem to increase my workspaces. did you upgrade or install fresh?
[10:51] <usalabs> scarleo yes I have enough,,, 4Gb, and top doesn't show the swap file in use,,, shows as 0k used
[10:51] <The_BROS> How to fix metacontact bug in Empathy?
[10:52] <yqjiangxin> Fum, try "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[10:52] <ronspirin> CyborgSmurf: do you have an external hard drive or something similar?
[10:52] <th__> andy, ?. just aptitude install and dpkg reconfigure
[10:52] <CyborgSmurf> ronspirin: yes I have an external
[10:52] <andy> th__ ok thanks
[10:52] <benwithjamm_in> sroecker: just found it. In CCSM go to General Settings, then the desktop size tab, increase horiz desktops on the vertical slider. Its a fresh install of xubuntu 11.10
[10:53] <tim_h>  Hi! i have a problem with the 11.10 update. every time i start my pc the boot progress stops at a certain point and just wont continue. when i press "esc" i can read the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708482/
[10:53] <scarleo> usalabs: I'd try a fresh reboot, kill off everything your not using, that includes background processes like maybe mysql, apache, whatever you have and see if it still does it
[10:53] <ronspirin> CyborgSmurf: then use déjà dup or a similar tool
[10:53] <b4lu_> anyone any hints for the Broadcome 43225 wireless problem?
[10:53] <scarleo> usalabs: or maybe samba or NFS, just shut down as much as you can
[10:54] <CyborgSmurf> ronspirin: okay. But when I want to retrieve the data, what do I do?
[10:54] <th__> anyone? can i add the weather to the "top panel"?
[10:54] <ronspirin> CyborgSmurf: in case you need to do that, dejadup will help you again
[10:54] <ronspirin> CyborgSmurf: you could also just copy your files onto the drive, but than you have to keep an eye on the hidden files/directories in your home directory, i.e. the emails, etc
[10:54] <sroecker> benwithjamm_in: does it change instantly? Doesn't seem to work for me, I upgraded though
[10:55] <Necrosporus> http://yiff.ru/forum.yiff?a=att&id=79220/snimok-2011-10-15%20144638.png
[10:55] <benwithjamm_in> yeah it changed instantly for me, this is with emerald running, although i cant see that making any difference
[10:55] <nenquel_> hello, I need halp with my ubuntu 11.04 installation
[10:55] <omri> can someone help disabling SYN flooding protection?
[10:55] <andy> th__, i am a complete noob, are they the sommands i need to use
[10:55] <TIP88> what kind of help?
[10:55] <CyborgSmurf> ronspirin: Ive done that before and it took hours. Will deja dup automatically backup hidden files?
[10:55] <ronspirin> CyborgSmurf: but if you are not sure what to do, i really dont want to be the one who told you what to do in case something goes wrong :P
[10:55] <scarleo> usalabs: Is it a laptop? Are you plugged in or on battery when this happens?
[10:56] <benwithjamm_in> although ctrl alt left right to switch windows is now giving an annoying flash of the previous workspace for a split second
[10:56] <usalabs> scarleo I did that several times, at first I thought it was desktop couch and associated couch db, but it wasn't that, but looking though the log files, all they seem to show are the nic in's and out's
[10:56] <nenquel_> i have win7 installed on my pc and installed ubuntu 11.04 now, but my pc keeps booting win7 and i have no idea how i can acceess ubuntu
[10:56] <sroecker> benwithjamm_in: thanks. Then there must be something wrong, I guess compiz doesn't use gconf anymore
[10:56] <usalabs> scarleo no it's a desktop pc
[10:56] <th__> andy, yes they are. sudo aptitude install kdm installs it
[10:56] <CyborgSmurf> ronspirin: I have to try and I wont blame you for what I did :P
[10:56] <Kingsy> can someone tell me why on ubuntu 11.10 the icons in the gnome top panel are so large?
[10:57] <Kingsy> changing the size of the panel itself doesnt change anything
[10:57] <tsaknorris> if i want to upgrade my friends iphone with this ubuntu. does itunes work with wine for it?
[10:57] <scarleo> usalabs: Hmmm, not sure then. What GPU do you have? And what driver?
[10:57] <tim_h>  Hi! i have a problem with the 11.10 update. every time i start my pc the boot progress stops at a certain point and just wont continue. when i press "esc" i can read the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708482/  Please help!! i am really desperate!!
[10:57] <Kingsy> so I am assuming its the icons themselves?
[10:57] <th__> andy, then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[10:57] <ronspirin> CyborgSmurf: i'm not an expert with dejadup, you could just create a backup and see whether the files are there
[10:57] <os_> hi
[10:57] <Kingsy> how do you make em smaller? also how do you make the icon backgrounds the same colour as the bar? so they blend together?
[10:58] <nenquel_> help please: i have win7 installed on my pc and installed ubuntu 11.04 now, but my pc keeps booting win7 and i have no idea how i can access ubuntu
[10:58] <Kingsy> I can do a print screen if that doesnt make sense
[10:58] <Kingsy> so someone can see it
[10:58] <usalabs> scarleo nVidia GeForce 7600 512Mb, using the version 256.52 Ubuntu driver
[10:58] <CyborgSmurf> ronspirin: I will look into it. Thanks for the help :D
[10:58] <dutt> Since upgrading to 11.10 the icons in nautilus seem to have disapeared, all I see is this; http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3184097/Screenshot.png
[10:58] <nenquel_> help please: i have win7 installed on my pc and installed ubuntu 11.04 now, but my pc keeps booting win7 and i have no idea how i can access ubuntu. I am using ubuntu from cd right now
[10:58] <benwithjamm_in> nenquel, where did you install grub?
[10:58] <ronspirin> CyborgSmurf: np ^^ good luck with your upgrade
[10:58] <nenquel_> benwithjamm, i|m sorrz i have no idea
[10:59] <dutt> nenquel_, you need to install grub or lilo or another os selector. reinstalling grub _might_ help.
[10:59] <Kingsy> ronspirin: could you please offer some help? sorry to single you out but I am frustrated :S
[10:59] <usalabs> scarleo NV-Control version 1.23
[10:59] <nenquel_> dutt: thanks, ill try
[10:59] <benwithjamm_in> nenqueal if reinstalling grub doesnt work try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[10:59] <ronspirin> Kingsy: that does not make me an expert on what you are trying to do, whatever that may be :P
[11:00] <cutiyar> evry time switchin on my 11.10 under ubuntu word say waiting to network configuration so that delay the boot , how to fix it?
[11:00] <kahlb> hi there
[11:00] <Kingsy> ronspirin: well, see if you know, basically 1 sec I will image shack a printscreen of my desktop
[11:00] <scarleo> usalabs: maybe it's your hard drives spinning down.
[11:00] <canarian_21> I can not share on network a folder from mounted NTFS part. I have all permissions for this ntfs part. I can share properly the other folders. Is it possible to share ntfs part (or a folder from this ntfs part) on Ubuntu 11.10?
[11:00] <th__> how do i add the weather applet to "top bar"?
[11:00] <andy> th__ thanks :) hope t sorts it out
[11:01] <th__> andy, hopefully :)
[11:01] <usalabs> scarleo I hadn't thought of that, but why would they, if they are being used
[11:01] <Kingsy> ronspirin: ok check this out.. -> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/screenshotat20111015115.png/
[11:01] <tim_h> Hi! i have a problem with the 11.10 update. every time i start my pc the boot progress stops at a certain point and just wont continue. when i press "esc" i can read the following error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708482/  Please help!! i am really desperate!!
[11:01] <os_> how to convert kubuntu to ubuntu?
[11:01] <Henriquez> Problem with video. Every video i play plays to fast and there is no sound. The problem exists on a  fresh install of oneiric, 32 as well as 64 bit. Does anyone know what to do to troubleshoot?
[11:01] <Mrokii> Ubuntu 11.10 is an annoyance, imho.
[11:01] <usalabs> I have 5 hard drives, 1 primary OS, and 4 configured raid 1
[11:01] <incorrect> how can adjust the screen font?
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:02] <scarleo> usalabs: maybe you can check with hdparm
[11:02] <dutt> os_, install gnome instead of kde
[11:02] <yqjiangxin> th_,right click on the "top bar"
[11:02] <Kingsy> ronspirin: you see how the height of the main panel is nearly double that of the bottom? and the icons and menu buttons are sitting on a different color than the panel color?
[11:02] <Cube``> hey guys, how do i upgrade from command line?
[11:02] <scarleo> usalabs: they might not be used all the time, some disk have some built-in spin down capabilities that might not play nice with default Ubuntu settings
[11:02] <dutt> Cube``, "startx" should help
[11:02] <bazhang> !upgrade | Cube``
[11:02] <os_> i installed gnome-shell and unity but some tools doesn't work
[11:02] <scarleo> usalabs: Like some of these "Green" things popular now
[11:02] <th__> ygyou talking to me or the other th? :D
[11:02] <Kingsy> ronspirin: and the icons are massive with ugly dark lines seperating them?
[11:02] <jasef> Cube``, sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:03] <Kingsy> ronspirin: this is what I am trying to change
[11:03] <Cube``> jasef: <3
[11:03] <Kingsy> ronspirin: I also have no system icons anymore apart from "sound"
[11:03] <kahlb> yesterday i updated ubuntu to 11.10, I'd like to use gnome shell. but when i log in using "gnome desktop" the gnome shell appears absolutely crippled. the panel is green, the characters are unreadable and it's unusable. i', using amd graphics card with fglrx, glxgears works fine. didn't find anything about this on google or forums, any suggestions?
[11:03] <scarleo> usalabs: or they might not be spinning down, just putting themselves in some standby mode if not written to at the moment
[11:04] <ronspirin> Kingsy: is that oneiric with gnome-panel?
[11:04] <Kingsy> ronspirin: http://imageshack.us/f/839/screenshotat20111015115.png/ <--- that displays my problem a little better..
[11:04] <alvin47> how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed ubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymor
[11:04] <Henriquez> Problem with video. Every video i play plays to fast and there is no sound. The problem exists on a  fresh install of oneiric, 32 as well as 64 bit. I use an ATI HD 5 series with image and sound over hdmiDoes anyone know what to do to troubleshoot?
[11:04] <usalabs> scarleo what options for hdparm would I need to check on?
[11:04] <Kingsy> ronspirin: tbh I don't know, I installed 11.10.. booted and didnt like the new layout of gnome.. so I installed gnome classic logged out and logged back in
[11:04] <th__> btw is it safe to link ubuntu with the google account?
[11:05] <scarleo> usalabs: not sure, haven't played to much with it but I believe there is plenty of documentation out there
[11:05] <andy> th__ i am still receiving the same issue with the graphics :s
[11:05] <dutt> th_, depends on what you mean by "safe"
[11:05] <esteeven> Hello. I am using the fglrx driver and it works but there is a lag when moving windows around ie the cursor gets ahead of the window. It's a bit disconcerting.
[11:06] <scarleo> usalabs: man hdparm at least :)
[11:06] <th__> andy, sorry to hear that
[11:06] <usalabs> scarleo I'm looking at the hdparm --help
[11:06] <Kingsy> ronspirin: what have I done wrong? so i need to isntall something totally different?
[11:07] <Kingsy> do***
[11:07] <ronspirin> Kingsy: try to use a different theme and relog
[11:07] <sroecker> Kingsy: I got the same ugly looking icons with gnome-panel
[11:07] <scarleo> usalabs: some info here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=939888
[11:07] <Kingsy> sroecker: did you fix it?
[11:07] <scarleo> usalabs: last post looked interesting
[11:07] <andy> the issue with ati graphics cards on 11.10 is amazing... tried everything to sort it
[11:07] <gb> umm no idea why but the silly ocelot upgrade announcer launched with a whit background, i shut it and opened update manager and it's dialogue settings were readable in my defined colours, thought i might mention it as am annoying bug for me which i doubt will be of great sifnificance for anyone else
[11:07] <alvin47>  how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed ubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymore
[11:07] <ronspirin> Kingsy: canonical replaced the classic gnome2 desktop with unity, and you're  probably running gnome3 in the fallback mode
[11:07] <AgentC> when started ubuntu with KDE  is it also possible to switch to a console by ctrl-alt-f1/f2 ... ?
[11:07] <sroecker> Kingsy: No, not yet. I use unity2d for now
[11:07] <Kingsy> ronspirin: what do you mean? changing the theme doesnt change the height of the top panel
[11:08] <andy> th__ is there anything else you can recommend?
[11:08] <Kingsy> sroecker: what is unity2d ? is that something you select on log in? or is that something I need to install seperately?
[11:08] <usalabs> scarleo hdparm -C /dev/sda shows the drive state ac active/idle
[11:08] <ronspirin> Kingsy: so, *you* did nothing wrong, they just didnt tell you that the upgrade would mess up the way your desktop used to work :P
[11:08] <th__> andy, so what happens when you boot? i mean what is the problem?
[11:09] <Kingsy> ronspirin: so how do you use your desktop? do you use the new gnome layout?
[11:09] <sroecker> Kingsy: You can select it when you log in, it's the default unity withoud 3D effects
[11:09] <trans> hello
[11:09] <trans> everyone
[11:09] <ronspirin> i'm still running natty, i just installed oneiric on a usb drive and i can reproduce the problem here
[11:09] <Kingsy> sroecker: does it have that stupid left panel and stuff?
[11:09] <scarleo> usalabs: what does sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda show?
[11:09] <Kingsy> i.e the new gnome layout?
[11:09] <sroecker> Kingsy: yep
[11:10] <trans> I installed nvidia through additional drivers on 11.10, but after running nvidia-xconfig I got blank screen upon reboot
[11:10] <Kingsy> sroecker: honeslty should I just get nused to that?
[11:10] <trans> how to solve the issue
[11:10] <ronspirin> Kingsy, sroecker: let's try to fix that in a seperate channel or something #oneiricgnomepanel
[11:10] <andy> th__, can i pastebin the image?
[11:10] <Kingsy> ronspirin: cool .. join that channel
[11:10] <th__> andy, ok
[11:10] <K-Rich> trans, what video card ?
[11:11] <Somelauw> Hi, when rebinding a key using xmodmap. Is that temporary or permanent?
[11:11] <usalabs> scarleo  is there anything in-particular I should be looking for?
[11:11] <coregateFX> Hi, Can anyone help me with installing virtual box on 11.10?
[11:11] <trans> Rich its nvidia 525M
[11:11] <coregateFX> I'm getting errors when i try to run it since i've updated
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> coregateFX: i use, what's the prob?
[11:11] <scarleo> usalabs: Advanced power management level maybe or Host-initiated interface power management
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> coregateFX: i use it, what's the prob?
[11:12] <Mrokii> Somelauw: I am pretty sure that when you just use xmodmap in the shell it is temporary. You will have to create a file and put commands in there to make changes permanent.
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> trans: boot to root recovery mode. If you run:   dpkg -l | grep nvidia    which driver do you have installed?
[11:12] <scarleo> usalabs: see what is selected and what not
[11:12] <coregateFX> I get the error, Please install the virtualbox-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root.
[11:12] <kahlb> ubuntu got me... I think I'm gonna reinstall...
[11:12] <usalabs> scarleo apm level 254
[11:12] <Somelauw> Mrokii: thanks
[11:12] <coregateFX> dkms seems to be installed fine
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> coregateFX: oracle vbox, or vbox-ose from the repos?
[11:12] <andy> th__, imagebin.org/179171
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> coregateFX: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms; sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[11:13] <trans> ActionParsnip version 280
[11:13] <coregateFX> FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[11:14] <scarleo> usalabs: you might try hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda, but please read up on it first, hdparm is a powerful tool and might cause permanent damage
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> coregateFX: try sudo apt-get update, first
[11:14] <trans> ActionParsnip : nvidia-current                         280.13-0ubuntu6
[11:14] <andy> th__ the whole menubar is blocky and then with when cliecking the menu buttom there is a dodgy graphics for a second then it goes blocky there
[11:14] <__machine> the plymouth/splash thing doesnt appear to work on 10.04 lts in vmware… but apparently you cant remove plymouth… how can i disable the splash so i can see all the boot messages?
[11:14] <Necrosporus> $ cairo-dock
[11:14] <Necrosporus> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[11:14] <Necrosporus> (cairo-dock:4119): GdkGLExt-WARNING **: Window system doesn't support OpenGL.
[11:14] <Necrosporus>  
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> flood
[11:14] <Necrosporus> nvidia-current package is installed
[11:14] <Necrosporus> It's only 4 lines
[11:14] <coregateFX> Same error
[11:15] <coregateFX> update has been done
[11:15] <scarleo> usalabs: there is also smartmontools to help monitor disk activity
[11:15] <Noble> Anyone got ubuntu working on a newer macbook air?
[11:15] <Marezz> Hello everyone, I need help deciding which graphic card to get for my Ubuntu Desktop. 2 are available: NX8600GT 256mb ddr3 or HD 4650 1GB ddr2, which one is better and how much better? Im gonna use proprietary drivers
[11:15] <elky> Necrosporus, please use a pastebin next time regardless
[11:15] <Necrosporus> Marezz, I'd recommend Radeon and free driver, but in any case, radeon is better
[11:15] <th__> andy, aaa at first i though that you couldn't login at all :P
[11:16] <trans> ActionParsnip : laptop runs increasingly hot if I don't enable nvidia, is there any solution
[11:16] <usalabs> scarleo I'll first have a look at smartmon tool,, but looking through the docs for hdparm I'm thinking the spin down timeout is to short,, but I'll dig further to find out more
[11:16] <coregateFX> It worked fine this morning, Then i installed the update and it doesn't load now
[11:16] <Marezz> Necrosporus, Im a bit concerned about ati proprietary driver, ppl are saying that its terrible but I need proprietary driver... :(
[11:16] <Necrosporus> Anyways, GLX is broken on nvidia binary driver somehow
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> trans: you may want to run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log   see why its not loading
[11:16] <coregateFX> Pretty annoying
[11:16] <shelest`> please sign my petition against UEFI. http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot/statement
[11:16] <scarleo> usalabs: seems you might be on the right track then
[11:17] <andy> th__ i can login ok, its just when i am logged in the graphics are really bad
[11:17] <Necrosporus> Marezz, that information is outdated, it _was_ terrible
[11:17] <th__> andy, maybe you could do a gnome panel fallback
[11:17] <bazhang> shelest`, wrong place for that
[11:17] <Necrosporus> But currently it's not so bad, however, open source driver is better anyways
[11:17] <vivid> Marezz, uh, both of those cards are terrible, ati is shoddy and thats got to be the worst nvidia choice ever
[11:17] <Somelauw> Hi, I tried to remap my windows key, so I did exec xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = F30", but all it did was closing my terminal?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> trans: how does the display device connect to the video card/
[11:17] <vivid> Marezz, get a geforce 550 ti
[11:18] <Marezz> vivid, out of the question, theres no budget, I have to work with what I have
[11:18] <shelest`> bazhang: Not actually otherwise you will have no chanse to use your shiny linux with WIndows 8 certified mainboards.
[11:18] <trans> ActionParsnip : Its inbuilt graphics card
[11:18] <Marezz> Necrosporus, Do you have ati card by any chance?
[11:18] <bazhang> shelest`, sure it is. this is ubuntu support ONLY.
[11:18] <andy> th__ gnome panel fallback, it seems like the whole of the ati graphics as the screen sortof restarts at times to fix graphics issues
[11:18] <Alan502> Hey, if I re-install instead of just upgrading, does it make ubuntu *cleaner*?
[11:18] <vivid> the 550 is about $100, dont buy crappy cards.  the ati drivers are dirt
[11:18] <trans> ActionParsnip : I meant built into motherboard
[11:19] <shelest`> bazhang: ops. sorry than.
[11:19] <usalabs> scarleo smartmon tools also installs postfix mail server, should it do that? that's more processes to use up
[11:19] <alvin47> Actionparsnip: how can I reenable wireless, because I have wattOS previously on my netbook then I installed ubuntu 11.10 by upgrade, now wireless does not work anymore
[11:19] <vivid> Marezz, if thats just what you have laying around, try the ati card, and cross your fingers
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> trans: same difference
[11:19] <Necrosporus> Marezz, I have an HD 5450, it works well under Maverik with drivers from xorg-edgers, but that's open source ones. I'd recommend you start from ATI
[11:20] <Marezz> Necrosporus, I see, even tho ur using open source drivers, do you know maybe if fglrx has issues with new kernel 3.*?
[11:20] <trans> ActionParsnip : I didn't get you
[11:20] <kire> in the new software center, how can i see "technical files" (e.g. i want to install numpy now and the only thing I can see are some useless gui apps I don't need0
[11:20] <vivid> alvin47, did you run jockey and install the driver for your wireless card? press alt+f2 and type jockey
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> trans: the fact its built into the motherboard is of no consequence
[11:20] <Necrosporus> Marezz, no idea, just try
[11:20] <scarleo> usalabs: hmmm, it probably has some mailing capabilities, I don't think it's any harm to it unless you already have a mailserver configured
[11:21] <trans> ActionParsnip : Sorry I'm not so aware of technical terminologies
[11:21] <kire> nvm, found it, the technical items are well hidden in the lower var
[11:21] <jANaM> Installing gnome 2 in Ubuntu?
[11:21] <kire> I guess the ubuntu people wanted to make 11.10 as user unfriendly as possible
[11:21] <jANaM> Installing gnome 2 in Ubuntu 11.10?
[11:21] <alvin47> vivid: it's already activated it says but i can't turn it on
[11:21] <usalabs> scarleo I'm this is only a workstation, and not set up as a server,,, I do have a network server, separate to the workstation.
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> trans: weather it is a seperate video card or onboard as part of the motherboard makes no difference at all
[11:22] <th__> andy, wich driver do you use?
[11:22] <jANaM> Ubuntu 11.10 is very user friendly, but they want their users to file thousands of bug reports too(for all problems)
[11:22] <vivid> alvin47, did you restart your computer after installing the driver?
[11:22] <alaing> hi guys from putty i'm using mysql -u myuser - p    it prompts me for a password before continue. I tried mysql -u myuser - p myPassword but it wouldn't work. is there a why i can connect to mysql form a single line in putty using the password?
[11:22] <trans> ActionParsnip : oh ok, got it
[11:22] <Somelauw> What is the command to safely return to the gnome session chooser and login screen? I locked all my windows except this terminal I am currently using for irc?
[11:22] <trans> ActionParsnip : I'm checking the log file
[11:22] <jANaM> Here my Gnome 3 crashed because I started compiz config 3d
[11:22] <scarleo> usalabs: so no problem then
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> jANaM: look into 'mate'  it is not supported and not developed any more. I suggest you installxfce4 and use XFCE as your desktop
[11:22] <andy> th__ i installed it from the "Aditional Drivers" option in "System Settings"
[11:22] <usalabs> scarleo not yet
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> trans: do you use VGA or HDMI?
[11:23] <dimitri> no one help me to install printer ?
[11:23] <th__> andy, paste you xorg cong
[11:23] <th__> conf
[11:23] <jANaM> XFCE is the new gnome. Cool.
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> jANaM: no
[11:23] <th__> jANaM, seem so :D
[11:23] <cutiyar> any help?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> jANaM: its just very similar in look and feel to gnome2
[11:23] <andy> th__ ok
[11:23] <trans> ActionParsnip : HDMI
[11:23] <jANaM> well it will replace it. XFCE is not what it once was.
[11:24] <th__> i want my good old gnome panel back :(
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> alvin47: if you run: sudo lshw -C network    you will see the wireless chip, you can use that to find guides
[11:24] <bazhang> !notunity | th__
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> trans: do you get the BIOS screen and such on the display during boot?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> th__: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[11:24] <usalabs> scarleo smartctl /dev/sda -i doesn't really show much info, just module name, make, serial, capacity,,,,just the usual info
[11:24] <trans> ActionParsnip :  Yes
[11:24] <alvin47> vivid: yeah, but still not working :(
[11:25] <th__> MonkeyDust, yes im aware
[11:25] <Somelauw> How to logout from terminal?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw: logout the pc or logat Terminal?
[11:25] <Somelauw> And return to gnome login screen?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> ou
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: gnome-session-save --force-logout
[11:25] <scarleo> usalabs: so maybe you will try setting apm to 255 then, just monitor the hd carefully for overheating
[11:25] <ghabit> Hello, just installed Ubuntu 11.10
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: simple websearch pulled that up....
[11:26] <ghabit> how to switch off the Unity?
[11:26] <ghabit> It is HORRIBLE
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> !nounity | ghabit
[11:26] <scarleo> usalabs: or/and change the timings
[11:26] <andy> th__ pastebin/yip1fp1R
[11:26] <karex> help me, my mouse pointer suddenly can't be moved
[11:26] <ghabit> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[11:26] <karex> and desktop background can't be image
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> karex: sudo modprobe -r psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse
[11:26] <andy> th__sorry thats pastebin.com/yip1fp1R
[11:27] <jamil_1> anyone encountered this: symbol look error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiobamf.so: undefined symbol: g_desktop_app_info_launch_handler_get_type
[11:27] <MonkeyDust>  
[11:27] <andy> th__ its interesting that is is very minimal, not seen one like that before
[11:27] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: Is there also a command that works from a random wm. I can't use my browser because I messed up my current wm, so that is why I want to exit.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> trans: I can give you my xorg.conf   if you want.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: try in CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:27] <andy> th__ i may have to install the ati drivers manually
[11:28] <trans> ActionParsnip : log has no clue, but I remember when I blank screen it showed the error like xserver rejected the connection
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> trans: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708501/
[11:28] <karex> ActionParsnip: it doesn't affect anything, any idea?
[11:28] <howaaa1> I changed System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects to "None". But when I restart computer "None" gets unselected again ...... Any help ??
[11:28] <usalabs> scarleo using a cli to set drive params is a bit daunting, is there a gui, that can do the same job as hdparm?, much like gparted that can have a 'revert' if needed?
[11:28] <alvin47> ActionParsnip: thanks here it is http://pastebin.com/izGwDU57
[11:28] <MonkeyDust>  
[11:28] <benwithjamm_in> Hi all, i have a minor annoyance when switching workspaces with compiz. I get a flicker of the contents of the previous workspace before its redrawn, annoying! Card is a gtx570 and using the proprietary binary nvidia-current drivers from apt.
[11:28] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, stop that
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | alvin47
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> bazhang: testing different screens in live mode
[11:29] <bazhang> #test MonkeyDust
[11:29] <alvin47> !broadcom
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> alvin47: use the guide, you can install the driver
[11:29] <Marezz> Is it possible to install and test proprietary gfx drivers in live session?
[11:30] <alvin47> ActionParsnip: thank you very much and also to vivid
[11:30] <trans> ActionParsnip : I thought of showing u my config file, but I replaced with backed up one
[11:30] <__machine> how can i stop ubuntu 10.04 lts from flickering and resetting/clearing the console multiple times during boot?
[11:30] <scarleo> usalabs: don't think there is one, but I'm not sure
[11:31] <scarleo> usalabs: just write down any setting you change and it can be reverted with the same command just different value
[11:31] <trans> ActionParsnip : Mine looked similar, I reboot with urs and will revert back, thanks for your kind help
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> trans: sometimes the driver won't load if you don't specify a resolution. This is usually caused by no EDID coming from the output system.
[11:32] <cutiyar> i have problem with booting the system , its take too long
[11:32] <karex> ActionParsnip: I tried dmesg | grep mouse, and get the last line contains
[11:33] <karex> ActionParsnip: pmouse.c: resync failed
[11:33] <usalabs> scarleo I have sensors installed, but I don't know if it monitors hd temp, or just cpu temp and gfx temp,,, using sensors -f I get 2 readings;- acpitz-virtual-0 and k8temp-pci-00c3
[11:34] <scarleo> usalabs: Doesn't the samrt info include temp?
[11:34] <usalabs> scarleo no
[11:34] <ghabit> !nounity
[11:34] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: That command made my session completely inaccesible when I switched back using Ctrl+Alt+F7. It was just showing the ubuntu logo with red dots below it.
[11:35] <Somelauw> So eventually I just did a shudown -h now and restarted manually.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: easiest way
[11:35] <sobersabre> hi.
[11:35] <sobersabre> I am trying to upgrade from 10.10 into 11.10
[11:35] <sobersabre> directly, that is via update-manager.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> sobersabre: you'll need to upgrade to natty first
[11:36] <andy> th__ I have followed a guide to reinstall it manually. Did you see the xorg.conf?
[11:36] <sobersabre> ActionParsnip: full upgrade ?!
[11:36] <admin3> i have saved my home directory with rsync and when i now try to write it back the user wont start. why?
[11:36]  * tommylommykins waves
[11:36] <shoonya> does the ubuntu alternative cd support GUI based installation ?
[11:36] <tommylommykins> what's the correct way to install gnome3 on 11.10? Apt-get install gnome-session?
[11:36] <Somelauw> ActionParsnip: Is there really not a way to logout, so I can back to gnome-login-manager?
[11:37] <Somelauw> When not using gnome?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: its that kind of command
[11:37] <iceroot> tommylommykins: gnome-shell
[11:37] <sobersabre> hmmm.... that's a bummer..
[11:37] <tommylommykins> cheers :)
[11:37] <Somelauw> well, it didn't work
[11:37] <scarleo> usalabs: what about smartctl -a | grep Temp
[11:37] <iceroot> shoonya: only ncurse-menu
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: gnome-session-save --kill --silent
[11:37] <smango> I installed gnome-shell but for some reason when I start it a lot of the graphics are garbled. Apparently this might  be an issue with the fglrx driver? Does anyone know of a solution?
[11:37] <iceroot> shoonya: but at the end you get a gui (unity)
[11:38] <tommylommykins> smango: if that's true, then D:... I am in the process of installing gnomeshell, and was just about to enable fglrx
[11:38] <usalabs> scarleo I installed GSmsrtControl gui, and it shoed some interesting results that the cli didn't show,,,, Error #96 Lifetime hours 34142, State:- Unknown
[11:38] <scarleo> usalabs: or sudo  smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep Temp
[11:38] <scarleo> usalabs: ok, great
[11:38] <andy> th__ fixed the issue thanks :)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> smango: are there any bugs reported?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> smango: tried logging in as a different (or new) user
[11:39] <usalabs> scarleo 'Error 96 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 34142 hours (1422 days + 14 hours)
[11:39] <usalabs>   When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state'
[11:40] <AlexAnteMachina> hi all
[11:40] <AlexAnteMachina> can anybody please tell me why gwibber-service eats up so much cpu?
[11:40] <alex-> Why isn´t the app Advanced settings merged with the system settings?
[11:41] <alex-> So that you will have a system settings thing where you can edit the things the Advanced Settings app haves
[11:42] <ghabit> How to make windows default @ grub?
[11:42] <scarleo> usalabs: doesn't say anything to me, you might want to google that
[11:42] <ghabit> !grub
[11:43] <Vardam1r> Hi, I need to know how to disable guest user account and system sounds in ubuntu 11.10
[11:43] <phiscibe> ghabit: can u burn another cd or have another usb drive
[11:43] <sonja> i get a black screen, and the mouse cursor is a big X when booting into oneiric :(
[11:43] <vivid> id like to know how to enable system sounds in 11.10
[11:43] <usalabs> scarleo oh crap!, self test logs show 2 errors, Short offline:- Complete with read failure @ 40%', dang it, looks like my primary drive is going butt up
[11:43] <phiscibe> vivid is it a fresh install or an upgrade
[11:44] <vivid> upgraded a while ago
[11:44] <phiscibe> sonja, upgrade for fresh install?
[11:44] <scarleo> Vardam1r: System settings->User accounts and sound
[11:44] <sonja> phiscibe both actually. it did it to me when upgrading. so i did a fresh install, and the same thing happens
[11:44] <Vardam1r> scarleo I don't see guest account in User accounts section
[11:44] <Vardam1r> scarleo and I don't see system sounds in sound
[11:44] <phiscibe> vivid your old pulseaudio settings may not work with the upgrade
[11:44] <fhtagn> Vardam1r: I don't see it there either, but it is in the login screen
[11:45] <phiscibe> but if you did a clean install, did you delete thehome paritions and make it truely clean
[11:45] <AlexAnteMachina> ghaith, you may use startupmanager
[11:45] <alex-> Why isn´t compiz-config-manager installed by default?
[11:45] <sonja> the clean install ws on a different partition
[11:45] <vivid> i will never delete my /home partition...
[11:45] <fhtagn> Vardam1r: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session well
[11:45] <scarleo> usalabs: Ok, might be the cause of your problems then
[11:45] <hypertyper> I've just installed v 11.10 and the minimise window shortcut doesn't work. I've tried different assignments in terms of shortcuts and windows and it does nothing. Any ideas?
[11:45] <Vardam1r> fhtagn thankyou, the problem is I use GDM not LightDM
[11:45] <phiscibe> if the new install is somehow picking up the .pulse folder in home, that might be the culprit
[11:46] <usalabs> scarleo also temp shows as 46C
[11:46] <christian__> Hello girls and guys, i need some help with installing packages manually, i am struggling with this problem for a few hours already :( and i am too stupid to find a solution
[11:46] <fhtagn> "If you're using GDM (which was the default in previous Ubuntu releases), uninstall gdm-guest-session." from the same link. Does it work?
[11:46] <scarleo> usalabs: that seems ok
[11:46] <altin> hello, Im having a problem with my camera, cheese shows the view all inverted !
[11:46] <minashokry> Hello, after I upgraded to 11.10, I lost all compiz effects in unity ..... anyone can help debugging?
[11:46] <sonja> i seem to have this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859975
[11:46] <altin> did anyone encountered something like this ?
[11:46] <cutiyar> does gnome exist on 11.10?
[11:46] <Vardam1r> fhtagn I did it, but I doesn't works . I will try the LightDM session too
[11:46] <phiscibe> what video card minashokry
[11:47] <sonja> black screen, nad the mouse cursor is a large x
[11:47] <minashokry> phiscibe, intel & nvidia with optimus. was working fine on 11.04
[11:47] <phiscibe> altin: i want to tell you to stand on your head so bad but i wont
[11:47] <sonja> also it was telling me "waiting for network config" when starting up
[11:47] <christian__> i need to install g++-3.4 which depends on libstdc++6-dev, this packages depends on g++-3.4 .. a cyclic depency... but since these packages arent in the repostiroy, i downloaded the package files.. how can i install them simultaneously with dpkg ??
[11:47] <altin> can anyone help me ?
[11:48] <usalabs> scarleo reallocated sector count if non zero shows disk failure, is what shows in the tooltip, looking at the raw data it shows 4,,, a non zero value, which backups up my suspicions, that the drive is failing
[11:48] <christian__> please can someone help me ?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> christian__: you can force install one of the deps, then install the other
[11:49] <christian__> ahh thank you ActionParsnip :D
[11:49] <jANaM> I don't know why or how this happened but my current language in Gnome 3 in 11.10 is Chinese(or asian or whatever). I'm now trying to change back to English.
[11:50] <scarleo> usalabs: you better take a backup of it then
[11:50] <dutt> it seems I'm missing something in my system settings, Session, NVIDIA and other things disapeared after upgrading. Anybody know of a way to "reset" it? And for some unknown reason they've included "Wacom tablet" in there too...
[11:50] <Breakable1> ?
[11:50] <jANaM> This must have happened during install. Surprised as I was I noticed that "chinese" was listed somewhere. I didn't give it much notice. Now the whole system language is changed.
[11:50] <vivid> minashokry, be sure youve installed nvidia-current through the jockey-gtk gui, and be sure youre not running unity-2d
[11:50] <tommylommykins> hmm
[11:51] <tommylommykins> is a restart required in between installing fglrx and installing fglrx post release updates?
[11:51] <xharx> i have saved my home directory with rsync -a and when i now try to write it back the user wont start. why?
[11:51] <usalabs> scarleo yeah I ahd better,,, luckily I have Acronis backup that I can use to backup the drive to the network server,,, thanks for you help
[11:51] <beta0x64> does ubuntu still use X server in 11.04+?
[11:51] <hungarian> hi
[11:51] <yakc> is it just me or does someone else feel like 11.10 is slow?
[11:51] <vivid> phiscibe, it would appear that i dont hear them because the ubuntu system sound theme is gone
[11:51] <sagaci> beta0x64, yep
[11:51] <scarleo> usalabs: np
[11:51] <hungarian> anybody has replaced unity in 11.10????
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> yakc: fast here
[11:51] <dutt> beta0x64, afaik there's no widespead alternative
[11:52] <sagaci> yakc, same as 11.04, fast
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> hungarian: many use gnome-shell
[11:52] <vivid> yakc, seems faster to me, aside from a few bugs
[11:52] <kire> yakc: if there's one good thing to 11.10 it's that it feels faster than the .04 here
[11:52] <scarleo> !nounity | hungarian
[11:52] <jANaM> hungarian: I tried Gnome 3, but it crashes a bit.
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> scarleo: beat me to it ;)
[11:52] <scarleo> ActionParsnip: ;)
[11:52] <hungarian> and gnome-shell its just aptget it???
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell
[11:52] <breakable> where is the TERMINAL ??
[11:52] <vivid> hungarian, yes, 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell'
[11:52] <cutiyar> gnome is not supported in 11.10?
[11:52] <tommylommykins> hmmm
[11:53] <hungarian> !info gnome-shell
[11:53]  * tommylommykins installed fglrx
[11:53] <yakc> well, it's just me then :)
[11:53] <vivid> cutiyar, 'sudo apt-get install gnome-panel'
[11:53] <tommylommykins> and now I no output on my screen
[11:53] <tommylommykins> D:
[11:53] <hungarian> that's it?
[11:53]  * christian__ gives ActionParsnip a cookie
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> breakable: press CTRL+ALT+T   or search for terminal in dash. If you use terminal a lot, I suggest you install guake
[11:53] <sagaci> breakable, in 11.10?
[11:53] <vivid> hungarian, to install gnome-shell, yes
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> christian__: glad its all good :)
[11:53] <vivid> hungarian, gnome-shell == gnome 3
[11:53] <cutiyar> vivid, i dont mean this i said its supported?
[11:53] <andycc> Speaking of Shell, do you by any chance know how I can get it to display UI text in the Ubuntu font instead of DejaVu?
[11:53] <benwithjamm_in> +1 for guake, couldnt live without it
[11:53] <christian__> :D thank you very much... i wasted so much time goolging for help.. ^^
[11:54] <phiscibe> OK LISTEN UP been following bugs all night, gotta crash but here comes some stuff pass it on
[11:54] <christian__> *googling
[11:54] <vivid> cutiyar, they included it didnt they? i wouldnt worry about support with gnome classic though, its really stable
[11:54] <sagaci> glad some others are using guake :D
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> breakable: or yakuake in kde
[11:54] <breakable> ActionParsnip: Thanks mate
[11:54] <can73> 1
[11:54] <benwithjamm_in> Repeating question again, i have a minor annoyance when switching workspaces with compiz. I get a flicker of the contents of the previous workspace before its redrawn, annoying! Card is a gtx570 and using the proprietary binary nvidia-current drivers from apt.
[11:54] <phiscibe> OK LISTEN U Have you just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot and now getting the “Waiting for network configuration” message followed by “Waiting up to 60 seconds more for network”? This then might be accompanied by a black blank screen.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> guake / yakuake should be default install imho
[11:54] <can73> somebody help, my wifi never connects after 11.10 update
[11:54] <tommylommykins> !
[11:54] <phiscibe> look here http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-10-problem-waiting-for-network-configuration-then-black-screen-solution/
[11:54] <can73> thanks ill check it out
[11:54] <phiscibe> also related to dbus erros
[11:55] <cutiyar> vivid, iu dont understand me , i saying if its not supported why the terminal use Gnome?
[11:55] <tommylommykins> is it now no longer possible to start in text mode by using the text kernel line argument?
[11:55] <benwithjamm_in> sagaci: F12, new tab, switch between pgup and down, do stuff, f12 again and back to whatever working on. hands dont leave keyboard, really good for dev workflow. <3 guake
[11:55] <minashokry> vivid, Is this driver aware of optimus? enabling non-optimus-aware nvidia driver can lead to not being able to run desktop at all
[11:55] <vivid> cutiyar, i dont understand you, for sure.  what exactly do you mean when referring to "gnome"
[11:55] <hungarian> ok. ill try it
[11:55] <vivid> minashokry, optimus does NOT work with linux, period
[11:55] <phiscibe> look here for KNOWN isuses https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes
[11:55] <jANaM> serious problem. How do I log out. The language is in Chinese. (I just changed back to English)
[11:56] <cutiyar> vivid, i said its supported or not?
[11:56] <sagaci> benwithjamm_in, I use the menu button instead of F12, since it's usually Fn+F12 on laptops
[11:56] <jANaM> under my user account 'foobar' there is a menu
[11:56] <vivid> cutiyar, gnome is a pretty vague term referring to hundreds of elements, what part of gnome?
[11:56] <andycc> jANaM: ctrl-alt-delete.
[11:56] <minashokry> vivid, I know, and so I should enable nvidia driver. isn't that right?
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> jANaM: try ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:56] <phiscibe> if u have mixed kde - kubuntu componets, remberm you need to logon with gdm , lightdm is the new display manger
[11:56] <jANaM> After ctrl-alt-delete do I choose the right button or the left button?
[11:56] <cutiyar> vivid, so whats of gnome not support in 11.10?
[11:56] <vivid> minashokry, yes, if you have a recent nvidia card you probably want to use the nvidia driver, unless you dont really play games and want to stay with nouveau
[11:57] <jANaM> no worry. I'll try.
[11:57] <benwithjamm_in> sagaci: translucent or opaque? i cant handle it anything else but 100% opaque, my tiny mind gets confused otherwise :)
[11:57] <sagaci> benwithjamm_in, usually something like 90%
[11:57] <phiscibe> if you upgraded with a wireless connection it probably got disconnected in the process and scred up flash
[11:58] <minashokry> vivid, in my machine, I can't use the nvidia card away of optimus. I use bunblebee for running apps that need high graphics.... these all aren't the problem now. I was running compiz effects in unity on the intel card at 11.04, but once upgraded to 11.10 it stopped. this is what I want to fix now
[11:58] <phiscibe> if you use KMAIL or its realatives, its hosed now  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/11.10-release
[11:59] <hypertyper> in v11.10 the top panel on my secondary screen doesn't stay open once I click on any of the items like calendar, volume, mail etc. Any ideas?
[11:59] <phiscibe> NO LEAVE or SHUTDOWN u dont know if u got kubunt or ubuntu, check kdm and gdm
[12:00] <vivid> minashokry, /shrug
[12:01] <phiscibe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[12:01] <cutiyar> why while turning ubuntu 11.10 asking to waiting network configuration?
[12:01] <MrBoss> thunderbird or evolution ?
[12:01] <vivid> thunderbird for sure
[12:01] <phiscibe> OK LISTEN U Have you just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot and now getting the “Waiting for network configuration” message followed by “Waiting up to 60 seconds more for network”? This then might be accompanied by a black blank screen.\
[12:02] <jANaM> How do I remove chinese as display language from ubuntu? Can't be removed.
[12:02] <jANaM> I'm not from China.
[12:02] <MrBoss> vivid, chrome = chromium ?
[12:02] <phiscibe> http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-10-problem-waiting-for-network-configuration-then-black-screen-solution/
[12:02] <howaaa1> I changed System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects to "None". But when I restart computer "None" gets unselected again ...... Any help ??
[12:02] <jANaM> Anyone else got chinese they can't remove?
[12:02] <sagaci> jANaM, are you on 11.10
[12:02] <jANaM> Yes of course I'm on 11.10
[12:02] <can73> alright that didnt work
[12:02] <jANaM> and on Gnome3
[12:02] <xenland> Anyone know how to get back the old interface for Ubuntu? I just upgraded and there is no option for the old interface just this funky awkward can't find anything interface(sorry its just the truth..)
[12:02] <vivid> MrBoss, yes, chromium is the open-source compilation of chrome
[12:02] <jANaM> and on "Keyboard Layout"
[12:03] <phiscibe> LOOK FOR VAR RUN LOCK ON GOOGLE FOR MANY MANY MANY PROBLEMS
[12:03] <jANaM> (language tab)
[12:03] <can73> someone help with no network connection on 11.10 upgrade
[12:03] <oCean> phiscibe: no need for CAPS
[12:03] <oCean> !who | phiscibe
[12:03] <jANaM> ah, sorry, I'm asking questions without thinking. I know where I can remove such packages. Sorry.
[12:03] <phiscibe>  i was been dramitic, as im leaving good nght
[12:03] <sagaci> jANaM, sounds pretty messed up... I'd try to help you but i'm using stock unity on 11.10 :/
[12:03] <can73> help with no network connection on 11.10 upgrade
[12:03] <oCean> phiscibe: bye
[12:03] <jANaM> Under "Language Support".
[12:03] <vivid> xenland, if you want the classic gnome, install the gnome-panel package.  use the little gear to change your login environment when you log in
[12:04] <xenland> vivid: you da man. thanks I'll try that
[12:04] <can73>  can someone pleaseeee help with no network connection on 11.10 upgrade
[12:04] <minashokry> vivid, any other clues?
[12:04] <th0r> can73: you have to whine more, 30 seconds between lines is too much
[12:05] <jANaM> sagaci: I installed from scratch. Deleted the partition and its installed from scratch.
[12:05] <can73> yeah but is still cant connect im bout to downgrade
[12:05] <jANaM> nevermind. I think I can use synaptic to manually remove it.
[12:05] <vivid> minashokry, i would say not to try using optimus.  i doubt ubuntu or nvidia will support your issues with it
[12:05] <scarleo> can73: you need to give more info like i.e. what's your NIC model, wireless or cable etc.
[12:05] <xenland> Thanks vivid i'm using ubuntu classic now :)
[12:06] <can73> srry im a noob thats why im here
[12:06] <minashokry> vivid, I am not using optimus now. I just ant to restore compiz funtionality on intel. it ware working in 11.04
[12:06] <scarleo> can73: you don't need to excuse yourself but you still need to provide some info to get help
[12:06] <vivid> minashokry, youll have to ask someone else, i dont know anything about how or why to use an intel gpu
[12:06] <jANaM> can73: Did you connect with wifi?
[12:07] <can73> what is the terminal code for such thing
[12:07] <wildc4rd> Good afternoon all!
[12:07] <minashokry> vivid, ok thanks
[12:07] <vivid> minashokry, though, i think there were some release notes
[12:07] <Leeds27m> hi all...I upgraded to oneric a few days before the official release...the update manager's not showing anything since the official release, is there a way to make sure I've got everything up to date?
[12:07] <jANaM> can73: Do you connect to wireless router? Our connection stopped working too after the upgrade because it forgot the router password.
[12:07] <vivid> about intel cards not working after the upgrade, maybe you should read them
[12:07] <MrBoss> Who use a CAD (.dwg) ?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Leeds27m: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <scarleo> can73: did you read this page:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[12:07] <Leeds27m> ty action :)
[12:07] <koa> hey guys how can i upgrade my opengl to 4.2 ?
[12:07] <xenland> any idea on how to get my settings menu back on the top? All i see is Applications, and Places no Settings for system type stuff? did they put it else were after the upgrade i wonder?
[12:08] <can73> wireless router but ive put in the corect password numerous times, and it works on my windows dual boot
[12:08] <can73> ill use ur link
[12:09] <jANaM> can73: You must open network settings (just click on the icon) and then enter settings for your wireless connection and there we added the password (it was blank for WPA2)
[12:10] <bludog_anchorite> anyone recomend some good software for monitoring multiple ubuntu servers ? something simpler than nagios or cacti
[12:10] <can73> i know that but it gives my a connecting loop cycle as if i never put anything in and i know it is all right because i like checked it 100 times
[12:10] <jANaM> "Network Connections" -> Then go to "Wireless"-> Click on it...
[12:11] <jANaM> -> Edit -> "Wireless Security" tab -> "WPA & WPA2 Personal"(for us) -> Password.
[12:11] <jANaM> Then -> save. It worked for us.
[12:12] <jANaM> We found no other way to enter the password.
[12:12] <jANaM> can73: Did you do the same?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> !panels | xenland
[12:12] <can73> idk
[12:12] <can73> jANaM: what was it you did
[12:12] <jANaM> can73: Ok, try this. You know it worked for us, so it could work for you.
[12:12] <dutt> how do i change from unity to gnome 3? I can't find any "Sessions" part of system settings.
[12:13] <jANaM> Open "Network Connection".
[12:13] <jANaM> Open "Network Connections".
[12:13] <fhtagn> dutt: upon login there's a cog next to your name, no?
[12:13] <fhtagn> provided you installed gnome-shell
[12:13] <vivid> xenland, it should be in one of the indicator icons on the panel, probably the right-most one
[12:13] <jANaM> can73: Do you need help to open it?
[12:13] <dutt> fhtagn, oh, i'll try that then. thanks
[12:13] <can73> no
[12:13] <can73> continue
[12:13] <jANaM> Ok. Then go to the "Wireless" tab.
[12:13] <can73> k
[12:14] <jANaM> Then choose your wireless connection. Do you see it?
[12:14] <can73> yep
[12:14] <Stefanoz> Hi guys! I have a strange issue! While logged in with my ubuntu my internet is too slow. I am supposed to be synchronized at 9050 kbps but it's getting only 1004 or so... when logged in on windows this does not happen!!!  Any idea ?
[12:14] <jANaM> select it and then click on edit.
[12:14] <can73> k
[12:14] <dutt> Stefanoz, I had the same problem, it just went away after a while...weird.
[12:14] <smango> Does anyone know how to install Catalyst 11.9 in Ubuntu? I've been googling but so far no luck D:
[12:14] <jANaM> Click on the "Wireless Security" tab.
[12:14] <can73> yup
[12:14] <xenland> vivids yeah exactly but i no see it... :( http://postimage.org/image/fnio0x5w/
[12:15] <xenland> vivid click link and look at top left
[12:15] <xenland> no system settings :(
[12:15] <jANaM> For us it shows "Security: WPA & WPA2 Personal"
[12:15] <jANaM> enter the password in the "Password:" field.
[12:15] <Stefanoz> dutt: I was thinking the same thing and I was assuming that I would dissappear with the upgrading.. but it did no
[12:15] <vivid> xenland, try adding to the panel, indicator-session (not sure thats the name)
[12:15] <Stefanoz> dutt: what should I check on? any idea? did you look around about it ?
[12:15] <vivid> look for indicators
[12:16] <can73> problem is i have a fios router that just says wep but no idea which type of WEP it is e.g 128 pass or hex
[12:16] <vivid> xenland, thats almost exactly how gnome 3 is set up, so it might not work as it has in the past
[12:16] <kozlov8> The Ubuntu CD in this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  what is that?
[12:16] <coregateFX> Hi, Can anyone help me setup virtual box in 11.10?
[12:16] <vivid> kozlov8, thats for restoring the grub boot loader so you can run ubuntu again
[12:16] <coregateFX> I've been having problems opening it since i updated
[12:17] <jANaM> can73: What if you choose "Dynamic WEP (802.1x)? It lets you enter a password.
[12:17] <kozlov8> I need to do that, but what is the CD? vivid
[12:17] <tommylommykins> is ther any tutorial on how to use gnomeshell? I'm a bit lost
[12:17] <vivid> coregateFX, 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox'
[12:17] <scarleo> can73: so try, there are just 2 different weps
[12:17] <coregateFX> vivid, i have it installed but an error comes up now
[12:17] <sagaci> kozlov8, ubuntu desktop
[12:17] <can73> jANaM: ill try that
[12:17] <th__> okay what did i do now... ubuntu 2D works fine but when i select normal "ubuntu" only the wallpaper shows up...
[12:17] <vivid> kozlov8, you can use any recent ubuntu installation live environment
[12:17] <jANaM> scarleo: no, 3 ;)
[12:17] <g00se> Are there any isohybrid installer images available?
[12:17] <xenland_> vivid: apt-get reports this indicator-session is already the newest version.
[12:17] <kozlov8> vivid, sagaci, is it the CD I used to install Ubuntu?
[12:17] <vivid> coregateFX, when reporting errors, you need to actually show us the error, just saying you have an error is meaningless
[12:18] <sagaci> kozlov8, sure can be
[12:18] <coregateFX> Please install the virtualbox-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root.
[12:18] <coregateFX> I was getting the error, sorry
[12:18] <vivid> coregateFX, sounds like a pretty simple explanation of what you need to do
[12:18] <coregateFX> dkms is installed and updated
[12:18] <kozlov8> sagaci, but when I boot from that CD, there are only 2 options: Try Ubuntu and Install it, I need the repair option.
[12:18] <vivid> coregateFX, if 'apt-cache policy virtualbox-dkms' shows that its installed, simply run 'sudo modprobe vboxdrv'
[12:19] <jANaM> can73: If it works, plz tell me. If it doesn't work, plz tell me.
[12:19] <sagaci> kozlov8, click try ubuntu, boot it up then install boot-repair
[12:19] <scarleo> jANaM: true, almost to much to bear ;)
[12:19] <kozlov8> sagaci, How do I do that? Sorry I'm not very experienced...
[12:19] <sagaci> kozlov8, looks like you have to add a ppa first
[12:19] <vivid> xenland, no, its already installed, just right click the gnome panel and select add an item to the panel, then add that indicator
[12:19] <patr|ck> hello. where do i find the old wallpapers in Ubuntu 11.10?
[12:19] <sagaci> kozlov8, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:19] <tommylommykins> I am looking for a tutorial o how to use gnome shell. Can anyone help?
[12:19] <can73> jANaM: After i put in the pass, i got a grayed out button for save meaning something wrong
[12:19] <vivid> xenland, thats the indicator that should have what youre missing
[12:20] <sagaci> kozlov8, go try ubuntu then when it's loaded, open up a terminal and then paste in the commands from the 2nd option of that link I pasted
[12:20] <jANaM> can73: Uhm, sorry I got no experience with WEP.
[12:20] <benwithjamm_in> Repeating question again, sorry! I have a minor annoyance when switching workspaces with compiz. I get a flicker of the contents of the previous workspace before its redrawn, annoying! Card is a gtx570 and using the proprietary binary nvidia-current drivers from apt.
[12:20] <coregateFX> ok it opened, thanks for your help vivid
[12:20] <xenland_> Sorry forgot to mention that the gnome panel is not letting me right click. i had to drag and drop in order to get that terminal icon on there for some reason
[12:20] <jANaM> Anyone can help can73 with WEP settings?
[12:20] <vivid> tommylommykins, try entering that into google.com
[12:21] <sagaci> kozlov8, you need to be connected to the internet for that to work
[12:21] <can73> jANaM: i wish ubuntu had customer support number
[12:21] <tommylommykins> vivid: Not much luck.
[12:21] <kozlov8> sagaci, Okay thanks! :) One more question... would https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows fix the problem I have described https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/174411
[12:21] <vivid> benwithjamm_in, thats a new card that i dont think is supported in nvidia 280.13
[12:21] <th__> okay what did i do now.. ubuntu 2d works just fine but the normal "ubuntu" option gives me only the wallpaper, no menus :(
[12:21] <xenland_> Any ideas why I can't right click on nome panel? I don't see it locked at all
[12:21] <tommylommykins> Aditionally, most things have told me to press the windows key. Nothing happens
[12:21] <benwithjamm_in> vivid: ahhh... didnt consider that
[12:21] <th__> okay what did i do now.. ubuntu 2d works just fine but the normal "ubuntu" option gives me only the wallpaper, no menus :( tried to unity --reset but no effect
[12:21] <phoenixsampras> how to disable Unity?
[12:21] <benwithjamm_in> vivid: try direct from nvidia maybe?
[12:21] <sagaci> kozlov8, that could be more complex
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> th__: you need 3D accelleration to run ' normal' unity
[12:22] <vivid> benwithjamm_in, youll need to do this 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates' then 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and reboot
[12:22] <th__> phoenixsampras, why would you like to do that?
[12:22] <pavan> hello guys
[12:22] <th__> ActionParsnip, so you think im trying to run a 3d app without 3d acceleration?
[12:22] <kozlov8> sagaci, Oh, any ideas how it could be solved?
[12:22] <sagaci> kozlov8, honestly, unless you've got something on your ubuntu install that you really need, you might be off better to just reinstall ubuntu
[12:22] <vivid> benwithjamm_in, ubuntu is supposed to be actually keeping up with nvidia drivers now, but they are already behind on day 2 of release, the ppa is on the ball though
[12:22] <xenland_> Is it possble that the new upgrade removed my ATI/AMD video drivers? my gamma is looking really high and i don't see the catalyst control center any where?
[12:22] <zvacet> after install I lose my home partition even I didn´t format it during install is there any way to save files?
[12:22] <benwithjamm_in> vivid: Ok, thanks. Whats that ppa out of curisoty?
[12:22] <Stefanoz> How do I switch language in XFCE? In Unity I found a way to do it by using alt+shift
[12:23] <sagaci> kozlov8, since it's almost always better/easier/less hassle to install windows then ubuntu, not viceversea
[12:23] <Henriquez> ati driver problems : I have installed ati drivers but gnome shell wont display the colors right is there any setting i can play with to get it right?
[12:23] <vivid> benwithjamm_in, google it, theres an explanation on their launchpad page
[12:23] <xenland_> benwithjamm_in i think a ppa is like a server for installing packages or somthing like that
[12:23] <scarleo> !nounity | phoenixsampras
[12:23] <vivid> benwithjamm_in, its basically keeping current the things ubuntu does not
[12:23] <xenland_> benwithjamm_in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[12:23] <vivid> benwithjamm_in, dealing with Xorg, nvidia, and fglrx
[12:23] <benwithjamm_in> vivid: brilliant, thanks fella
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> benwithjamm_in: a ppa is a local software source
[12:24] <pavan> I have pasted my nvidia xconfig file at http://paste.ubuntu.com/708519/ I get blank screen upon reboot, plz help
[12:24] <kozlov8> sagaci, Okay, fair enough, but the previous version took a partition, so now I have less space on my Windows 7. If I were to reinstall it could I use the partition that the previous installation took?
[12:24] <th__> ActionParsnip, so you think im trying to run a 3d app without 3d acceleration?
[12:24] <th__> okay what did i do now.. ubuntu 2d works just fine but the normal "ubuntu" option gives me only the wallpaper, no menus :( tried to unity --reset but no effect
[12:24] <th__> ActionParsnip, repost
[12:24] <vivid> pavan, have you tried removing the config file? you shouldnt need it
[12:24] <benwithjamm_in> MonekyDust: ya, was just wondering what the specific one vivid pointed me to was. Thanks tho
[12:24] <xenland_> Any idears why gnome panel will let me right click on icons and buttons but not the panel it self?
[12:24] <pavan> vivid : I didn't get you
[12:24] <sagaci> kozlov8, yeah should be able to, just need to manually partition and use that free space/ext4 partition and allocate it to / and format it
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> th__: yes unity is a plugin for compiz, if you don't have 3D accelleration enabled, it won't work
[12:25] <kozlov8> sagaci, Okay I'll try reinstalling it. Thanks a bunch! :)
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> th__: unity 2D will run weather you have 3D accelleration or now, which is why it works
[12:25] <vivid> pavan, the file you pasted is not necessary, only for custom configurations, if you cant log in, try removing it (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[12:25] <sagaci> kozlov8, did you have any data/critical files on your first ubuntu  install?
[12:25] <kozlov8> sagaci: Nope. I never even got to use it.
[12:25] <Secluded1> question: can compiz cube work in oneiric?
[12:26] <vivid> Secluded1, it conflicts with some unity settings, but in theory yes
[12:26] <th__> ActionParsnip, i have a 3d acceleration.. it was runnig fine until explored some compiz confs. did change anything though
[12:26] <zvacet> Stefanoz: is https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html what are you looking for
[12:26] <sagaci> kozlov8, ok good since an install (depending on your hardware) can take <10mins so it's easier to reinstall than to troubleshoot a potential broken install/grub
[12:26] <pavan> vivid : I have nvidia graphics card, after installing I ran nvidia-xconfig, after rebooting I got the blank screen
[12:27] <scarleo> th__: fire up ccsm again and just tick Unity Plugin logout login
[12:27] <kozlov8> sagaci, okay, here goes nothing...
[12:27] <Henriquez> Can anyone guide me through troubleshooting ati drivers? i have reinstalled 8 times and tried different things but it seems to be hopeless
[12:27] <vivid> pavan, delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart your gui
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> th__: try:   gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz     then reboot and log into the normal unity desktop
[12:27] <Henriquez> or help me i mean
[12:27] <th__> ActionParsnip, what does that do?
[12:27] <pavan> vivid : If I don't enable graphics card laptop becomes hot
[12:27] <scarleo> th__: Unity plugin will be unticked on first start of ccsm, I did it myself
[12:28] <vivid> pavan, look, im going to keep telling you to do the same thing, ask someone else
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> th__: resets your compiz config to defaults
[12:28] <pavan> vivid : I have to enable it some how, I using dell xps
[12:28] <th__> scarleo, it was unticked indeed...
[12:28] <vivid> pavan, for the fourth time, that file is NOT Necessary, you can delete it and restart your gui without disabling the nvidia card
[12:28] <pavan> vivid : thanks anyway
[12:28] <vlada> hi! What should I do to get Calendar integration in Ubuntu 11.10? I've been updating from alphaX in hope they will settle it down, but nothing...
[12:29] <pavan> vivid : ok I'll do that
[12:29] <vivid> pavan, X will get suitable default settings on its own
[12:29] <scarleo> th__: I know, just tick it and then logout and back in
[12:29] <th__> ActionParsnip, unity plugin was unticked for some strange reason
[12:29] <pavan> vivid : now I got what u meant
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> th__: all ok now?
[12:29] <vivid> pavan, right, then once you get it working again, you can try to manually set settings that may work
[12:30] <jANaM> There's a funny thing going on. The wallpaper changes automatically. I think I like it.
[12:30] <pavan> vivid : thanks for ur help
[12:30] <vivid> jANaM, theres a timed wallpaper choice in the settings, :D you must have it enabled
[12:30] <kalib> Hi people. Did anyone get any problem when updating to 11.10? After this update I can't log on my gnome with my user. I can only log on console. On graphical interface I can only log with guest user.
[12:31] <pavan> bye all
[12:31] <vlada> kalib, worked for me on 3 boxes
[12:31] <jANaM> kalib: Upgrading? Yes a problem upgrading to 11.10 but it was not anyone elses fault. I played a buggy game and it crashed during the upgrade so I hit restart. Now I'm on a cleanly installed partition.
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> kalib: do you use proprietary drivers?
[12:32] <gameplayer> hello
[12:32] <Starman83> hi everyone
[12:33] <virusz> hi
[12:33] <Starman83> I recently upgraded to oneiric, but since then my network performance (over samba, xp client) went down from 19 mb/s to 9 mb/s. If I select an older Kernel (2.6x) in the boot menu the problem goes away
[12:33] <Starman83> Network driver is e1000 for intel 1gbit ethernet
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Starman83: are there any bugs reported?
[12:34] <tommylommykins>  hmm
[12:34]  * tommylommykins logged in as guest in 11.10
[12:34] <__machine> i need to convert an init script to upstart job… but upstart doesnt seem to have anywhere to specify how to stop/restart? how does it do these if my job only defines how to run something?
[12:34] <Starman83> Let me check
[12:34] <tommylommykins> there appeared to be no logout button
[12:34] <zvacet> I keep home on separate partition but after install 11.10 home is gone I did not format it during install isthere a way to save files from my home partition
[12:35] <Yuzersif> Hi
[12:35] <benwithjamm_in> vivid: Im now on 285.05, but still get the flicker before redraw. Im going to try disabling all the compiz options bar workspace switcher, see if still happens and go from there.
[12:36] <Stefanoz> zvacet: thanks!
[12:36] <Starman83> I can't find a related bug
[12:36] <Starman83> Should I report one?
[12:36] <zvacet> Stefanoz: yw  :)
[12:36] <Starman83> I mean the problem is totally reconstructable, I even switched PCI slots so e1000 would get a single interrupt, no change
[12:37] <sanu01> guys have a problem in 11.10. it slows down terribly after some time and i cant even open any application. have to hard boot
[12:37] <sanu01> any idea why?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> benwithjamm_in: how did you get 285 nvidia driver?
[12:39] <whyameye> how can I find out what video driver oneiric is using?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> sanu01: is the ram healthy?
[12:39] <whizz> sanu01: is there a process eating 100% CPU?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: sudo lshw -C display | grep -i driver
[12:40] <benwithjamm_in> ActionParsnip, using a ppa pointed to me by vivid, ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates, then apt update + upgrade and reboot
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> benwithjamm_in: cheers dude, tought it would be that
[12:40] <Sidewinder1> zvacet, You may want to have a look here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[12:40] <benwithjamm_in> np
[12:41] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: thx
[12:41] <Yuzersif> Hello
[12:41] <XenonLightz> hello all
[12:42] <XenonLightz> anyone here who can help me with the fglrx drivers and oneiric?
[12:42] <XenonLightz> hello?
[12:42] <fergal32> XenonLightz: what problem do you have?
[12:42] <Drecondius> XenonLightz: have you tried the proprietary drivers?
[12:43] <tommylommykins> hmm
[12:43] <tommylommykins> Does anyone know the name of startup disk creator
[12:43] <tommylommykins> I want to call it throught the commandloine
[12:43] <Yuzersif> Before I had this gnome --> http://imageshack.us/f/830/capture1xd.png/ and yesterday I upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 and I have this gnome --> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/capturedu20111015143129.png/
[12:43] <fergal32> i just bought a radeon 5450 the cheapest i could get and that card is running fine
[12:43] <Starman83> Isn't fglrx proprietary!?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> tommylommykins: unetbootin
[12:43] <noortje_> Hoi!
[12:43] <Yuzersif> When I click right on the top, on the panel , nothing happens!
[12:43] <XenonLightz> i just got no drivers now, because someone told me the drivers by ati.com would be better... Now, I dont have any drivers and x11 wont start
[12:43] <XenonLightz> I'm here with irssi and a virtual console
[12:44] <Drecondius> Starman83: not as far as i know bc there is an open source fglrx
[12:44] <tommylommykins> ActionParsnip: Cheers :)
[12:44] <noortje_> hallo
[12:44] <Starman83> I thought "radeon" were the open-source ones
[12:44] <Glycan> What's the that you use too connect too networks?
[12:44] <Glycan> What is the name of it?
[12:44] <miltenDawn> Hi everyone! :-)
[12:44] <fergal32> Starman83: these are the opensource ones. flgrx is proprietary
[12:44] <XenonLightz> and if i try to install fglrx it says that it is installed, and if i try to uninstall it cant find the package in dpkg... its really annoying
[12:44] <Starman83> I don't think the ATI drivers will support KMS
[12:45] <Starman83> Right
[12:45] <Starman83> XenonLightz: You should try to uninstall them
[12:45] <noortje_> hoi hoe gaat het met jullie
[12:45] <gameplayer> While using ubuntu 11.04, I once tested Elegant gnome, then uninstalled it. Now than I'm on ubuntu 11.10, the color theme (white fonts and dark background on windows) is back for my user. If i test it on a new user, the default theme is back. How can I reset the theme for my user ? Is there a folder to delete ? (I'm currently using unity)
[12:45] <bazhang> noortje_, english here
[12:46] <Drecondius> @XenonLightz are you using apt to uninstall?
[12:46] <XenonLightz> Starman83: The aren't installed.
[12:46] <XenonLightz> Drecondius: Yup
[12:46] <noortje_> faut
[12:46] <Starman83> then force a reinstall
[12:46] <Starman83> apt-get install something --reinstall
[12:46] <bazhang> !nl | noortje_
[12:47] <noortje_> ssmoedelkop
[12:47] <BostX> guys i just upgraded to 11.10 and have a fucking problem to find how to hibernate my netbook :(
[12:47] <bazhang> BostX, no cursing here
[12:47] <XenonLightz> Starman83: "The Pakage "fglrx" is not installed. Try "apt-get install fglrx".
[12:47] <noortje_> i hate jou
[12:47] <oCean> noortje_: please behave
[12:47] <bazhang> noortje_, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[12:47] <BostX> bazhang, oh sorry, I have a f-problem
[12:47] <rokin> what is the best (safe way ) to install gnome 3 in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[12:47] <noortje_> asstiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil
[12:48] <bazhang> rokin, there is none
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> rokin: there is no safe way
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3
[12:49] <jincreator> Has anyone know where is Ubuntu's system requirements in hompage?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> rokin: if you want to BREAK your system http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[12:49] <miromanyth> COuld someone tell me why the option to "install" in the app center is greyed out for every thing I want to install?
[12:49] <rokin> ok thank you :)
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> miromanyth: run:   gksudo software-center
[12:49] <yakc> is there some bugs in 3d cube or why doesnt it work as good as it did earlier
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> rokin: You have been warned. Using it WILL BREAK your OS. Your choice
[12:50] <bazhang> yakc, thats very vague
[12:50] <miromanyth> ActionParsnip: Ah that did it, thank you :)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> rokin: as we said, there is no safe way. Its not compatible
[12:50] <wildc4rd> out of interest, on 11.10 now, and Unity (not sure about Unity), can I still get useful little tools, like the CPU stepping and usage monitors for the toolbar at the top of the screen?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> miromanyth: np :)
[12:50] <Drecondius> Well I have a question now, How do I add a launcher to unity? BTW it's for a wine prog
[12:50] <tryggvib> My wireless doesn't work and I'm trying to fix it. From what I've read I should have the airo_cs module loaded but I don't. Is it unnecessary in 11.04 and 11.10?
[12:51] <iceflatline> jincreator: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> tryggvib: which wireless chip?
[12:53] <tryggvib> ActionParsnip, Cisco Aironet (I have the airo module loaded, just not airo_cs)
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> tryggvib: ok, if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks
[12:55] <tryggvib> ActionParsnip, I can see wireless networks but I can't connect to them, lshw -C network tells me that my wifi is Disabled
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> tryggvib: do youhave a switch for the wifi to turn it off and on?
[12:56] <tryggvib> ActionParsnip, syslog tells me that trying to connect to networks times out (no I don't - I have one for bluetooth)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> tryggvib: try:   sudo rfkill unblock all
[12:57] <tryggvib> ActionParsnip, done, rfkill list all still just shows the bluetooth and no wireless
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> tryggvib: i'd reboot then run:   dmesg | less      see what's going on
[12:59] <alex-> How can I change the gnome-panel settings?
[12:59] <bost> Does anyone know where are the hibernate and suspend buttons/apps gone? I just upgraded to 11.10 and Im using Unity
[12:59] <tryggvib> ActionParsnip, ok I'll try to do that, thanks for the help
[12:59] <alex-> bost: under the right top menu
[13:00] <bost> alex, no there's nothing :(
[13:01] <Bragex9> I think I have managed to corrupt my system during installation of ubuntu 11.04. Everything was running fine until the system restarted. My desktop backround photo shows up, and the desktop icons blinks and shows only for a half second every second sec. I can however not see the ubuntu menu. I can however start programs by clicking the icons on the desktop, and the program will start. But it also shows just for a second every second sec. What can
[13:03] <ronspirin> Bragex9: 1. what were you running before 11.04? 2. Did you use an old /home partition? 3. did the installation fail or something?
[13:03] <jincreator> iceflatline: Thanks. But in my memory, system requirements page was in ubuntu.com. Why there's nothing about system requirements in official page?
[13:04] <Breakable> can not find 'fonts' in appearance preferences ...
[13:04] <kapu> what is a good general-purpose *nix chatroom where most topics can be discussed and has a lot of volume?
[13:05] <oCean> kapu: there is a general ##linux channel if that's what you're after
[13:05] <Breakable> where are 'fonts'  and 'visual effects' in appearence ?
[13:05] <Breakable> can not find them
[13:05] <Bragex9> ronspirin: I was initially running 10.04 and upgraded to 10.10 and then further to 11.04. No error messages during installations. Yes, I think I used an old home partition
[13:05] <benwithjamm_in> if it helps anyone my redraw flicker was from desktop cube, just enabled workspace switcher + everything else and no more redraw flicker
[13:06] <iceflatline> jincreator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes?action=show&redirect=OneiricOcelot%2FTechnicalOverview#System_Requirements
[13:06] <kapu> oCean: ty, but was wondering if there is a less specific hangout. where nix in general is the common element
[13:07] <oCean> kapu: well, there is ##unix too, but has usually less visitors
[13:07] <kapu> oCean: thanks
[13:07] <LjL> oCean, kapu: also ##posix
[13:07] <ronspirin> Bragex9: try renaming the .config and .gnome2 directories in your home directory. they might be interferring with the new software. by renaming them instead of deleting them, you'll have a backup of them
[13:08] <jincreator> iceflatline: Thank you very much.
[13:08] <Czeslaw> siema
[13:08] <Czeslaw> :d
[13:08] <iceflatline> jincreator: Google search is your friend :)
[13:08] <oCean> !pl | Czeslaw
[13:09] <Barnabas> after an upgrade eo 11.10 I am getting this issue - anyone have a fix ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1825310
[13:09] <Bragex9> ronspirin: the problem is that I am not able to get access to the files. The only thing that shows on my screen is the desktop photo and the desktop icons blinking...
[13:09] <Barnabas> lightdm encryptfs strangeness
[13:10] <ronspirin> Bragex9: are you familiar with logging in into a tty? (aka text mode)
[13:11] <xenland_> Is everyone else having trouble installing the ATI propretary drivers?
[13:11] <N__S> haha
[13:11] <thinkpad> haha
[13:11] <thinkpad> yaa
[13:11] <thinkpad> available
[13:11] <FloodBot1> thinkpad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <emir> how to restart dash home to default values :)
[13:11] <emir> from terminall
[13:12] <Bragex9> ronspirin: not very familiar with that... I am trying to acces the home directory via my windows computer...
[13:12] <ronspirin> Bragex9: over network? forget it, wont work
[13:13] <ronspirin> Bragex9: press crtl+alt+f1 on the linux machine, you should see a full screen terminal console
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> emir: gconf / dconf possibly
[13:13] <Barnabas> the resolution seems to be to remove the .XAuthority file
[13:13] <ronspirin> Bragex9: log in to that
[13:13] <alph|away> can I anyone tell me how to change the system font size in 11.10?
[13:13] <g00se> Are there any isohybrid installer images available?
[13:14] <emir> ActionParsnip, can you give me full command from terminal, please
[13:14] <emir> ad
[13:14] <Bragex9> ronspirin: i need to get a real keyboard first. I am using a small keyboard with no function keys right now..
[13:14] <determinology> I installed the drivers for my video card but cant get the effects to work :(
[13:15] <ronspirin> Bragex9: lol i think you should get that anyway :D
[13:15] <gameplayer> While using ubuntu 11.04, I once tested Elegant gnome, then uninstalled it. Now than I'm on ubuntu 11.10, the color theme (white fonts and dark background on windows) is back for my user. If i test it on a new user, the default theme is back. How can I reset the theme for my user ? Is there a folder to delete ? (I'm currently using unity)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> emir: I'm not sure of it. I don't use gnome. There may be samples online but I imagine the settings are in dconf or gconf some place
[13:17] <pytonic> just test
[13:17] <pytonic> hello world
[13:17] <oCean> pytonic: we can read you
[13:17] <Mtaus> hola
[13:17] <Bragex9> ronspirin: this ubuntu computer is attached to my lcd-tv, that's why I only use a logitech mini keyboard. I have to go get a real keyboard and also another screen because the computer is in another room... behind the tv wall. I will get back later...
[13:18] <Mtaus> puta
[13:18] <Mtaus> hija puta
[13:18] <oCean> Mtaus: behave
[13:18] <emir> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[13:18] <Mtaus> me cago en tu puta madre
[13:18] <ronspirin> Bragex9: ok see ya
[13:19] <Ch4rAzZz> hi, how to add to unity launcher scrollcut to gnome-terminal --maximize?
[13:21] <lisse> hello
[13:21] <lisse> could someone help me with a tiny problem?
[13:21] <sanu01_> the panel sometimes end up using 100% of the processor
[13:22] <sanu01_> /usr/libunity/unity-panel-service uses up 100% of the processor
[13:22] <dc5ala> lisse, just try to describe your problem, then can see if someone is able to help
[13:22] <sanu01_> and system slows down drastically
[13:22] <lisse> ok
[13:22] <sanu01_> anyone else had similar prob?
[13:23] <lisse> I am using firefox browser, I need to click on some online wav and hear them without saving them, more clearly on this page: http://german.about.com/library/anfang/blanfang01.htm
[13:23] <lisse> atm it asks me to save the waves
[13:23] <HackNewton> sanu01_, this may cause if you installed wrong type of installtion i mean 64 bit instead of 32 bit etc
[13:24] <warpi> hello! anyone knows a program to check wheter my sdcard is corrupt or not?
[13:24] <sanu01_> HackNewton, well its on a 64 bit machine
[13:24] <fabri_> ciao
[13:24] <sanu01_> HackNewton, do you suggest i install 32 bit?
[13:24] <pytonic> just test again,
[13:24] <pytonic> soory
[13:24] <HackNewton> sanu01_, you should try that this definalty solve your problem
[13:24] <sanu01_> HackNewton, cause i would miss my 4gb of RAM then (
[13:25] <oCean> pytonic: please don't use this channel. There is #test for that
[13:26] <lisse> is anyone able to help me pls?
[13:26] <jihedamine> Hi. Using unity in ubuntu 11.10, the application switcher and the dash are not drawed over the other windows. When I relaunch unity (typing "unity" in command line) they behave correctly. Any way to fix that ?
[13:26] <incorrect> can i make the icons the the left bar smaller?
[13:27] <g00se> "Ubuntu 11.10 Will Be Distributed As Hybrid CD/USB Images" Where are they?
[13:27] <cuci> hi guys! I've just updated to 11.10 and my wireless card stoped working. Dmesg gives:
[13:28] <cuci> http://dpaste.com/634796/
[13:28] <Jenny_> Hello everyone, I am jenny nice to meet you all
[13:28] <flummy> all: HELLO JENNY!
[13:29] <flummy> my name is flummy and i too have ubuntu
[13:29] <HackNewton> cuci download latest drivers from your vendor using wired internet
[13:29] <cuci> I've tried apt-get install b43-cutter but b43 version 011 fails with http://dpaste.com/634796/ [-]
[13:29] <Jenny_> I was asked to come here from a friend as i have just started using ubuntu
[13:29] <HackNewton> flummy, we are happy that you have choosen Ubuntu
[13:30] <flummy> HackNewton: that was a fight-club self help group style joke.
[13:30] <Jenny_> It looks really good and easy to use
[13:30] <HackNewton> Jenny_, you can ask any query here or ask for any adivce i am sure many peple are happy to help you
[13:31] <italyouth> siemano
[13:31] <Jenny_> what programs are good for new users, as i am used to windows
[13:31] <Jenny_> ?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> cuci: which broadcom chip do you have?
[13:31] <HackNewton> Jenny_, most programs come in ubuntu preinstalled for typical users
[13:31] <italyouth> is anyone using netbook remix of 10.10 ?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Jenny_: depends what you want to do
[13:32] <flummy> hmm, my 10.04 workstation has the same /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm X11 resource file as my 11.10 workstation, but on 11.10 xterms are white on black, while they are black on white on 11.04, what could be the reason for this?
[13:32] <Jenny_> I want to use it for email and writing documents
[13:32] <HackNewton> Jenny_, if you want more you can go for software center and download software which suites your need
[13:33] <Jenny_> ok thanks HackNewton
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Jenny_: thunderbird is in a default install, or you can use webmail
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Jenny_: libreoffice is in a default install too for word processing
[13:33] <HackNewton> Jenny_ or Evolution
[13:33] <HackNewton> :D
[13:33] <Jenny_> ok, thank you for all of your help
[13:33] <cuci> ActionParsnip: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[13:33] <lupigang>   0
[13:34] <Jenny_> I will have a go
[13:34] <Jenny_> bye everyone :)
[13:34] <cah> fgr
[13:34] <Jenny_> I maybe back for some more questions
[13:35] <HackNewton> Jenny_, you are welcome
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> cuci: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source    then use the additional drivers app and install the STA driver
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> Jenny_: miss you already
[13:36] <zimb0> what will happen if i type /exit and then press enter
[13:36] <kandinski> hi, I have upgraded to Oneiric, and now I can't login with my user. The login manager goes blac then comes back. However, my sister's user on my machine does work. I am  ssh-ing from her account. Is this a common fault?
[13:37] <cuci> ActionParsnip: bcmwl-kernel-source : Depends: dkms but it is not going to be installed
[13:37] <incorrect> why can i no longer change the font size?
[13:37] <cuci> any hint on that?
[13:37] <bucaneiro> linux is fun even if you are using windows
[13:37] <cuci> wine : Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> cuci: sudo apt-get install dkms
[13:37] <julio_> help install driver intel on ubuntu 11.10
[13:38] <cuci> ActionParsnip: yeah but I get to wine1.2 error
[13:38] <HackNewton> julio_, can you you please br more specific
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> cuci: uninstall wine then see if it is ok
[13:39] <njbair> does LightDM provide a way to choose the keyboard layout on login like GDM did? I can't type my password without the right layout
[13:39] <HackNewton> Is anyone here is Ubuntu developer member ?
[13:39] <julio_> actualice mi ubuntu de 11.04 a 11.10 y no me arranca unity ni 3d ni 2d
[13:39] <incorrect> can i make a custom launcher?
[13:39] <julio_> update my ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 and I did not start or 3d or 2d unity
[13:40] <awc> morning guys, I just made the upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10. I can't login. I enter my password, the screen turns black, and I am returned to the login screen
[13:40] <incorrect> seriously, why have 'all' the options for me to customise anything been taken away?
[13:40] <julio_> I watched the X11 folder and there is no xorg.conf file
[13:40] <cuci> awc: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:40] <cuci> ?
[13:40] <kandinski> awc, I have the same problem
[13:40] <HackNewton> incorrect, because me has been taken out of ubuntu release
[13:40] <warfaren> run the configuration and it'll create one for you
[13:41] <bucaneiro> ubuntu developer member,? anyone is it here
[13:41] <Bharak> plx, can anyone help me?
[13:41] <awc> cuci: 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[13:41] <awc> [   183.904] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[13:41] <cuci> hm
[13:41] <Bharak> i just updated my ubuntu to 11.10
[13:41] <Bharak> and now i got an error
[13:41] <Bharak> when trying to enter using unity 3d
[13:42] <awc> Bharak, if you write your problem all in one line it makes it easier for the support staff to help you
[13:42] <incorrect> screw this release, i am going to xubuntu
[13:42] <dc5ala> awc, try adding a new user, and login as that user. Was trying to help someone a few hours figuring out what that is, but new user worked
[13:42] <warfaren> julio_: try Xorg -configure
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Bharak: ease up on the ENTER key dude
[13:42] <awc> dc5ala, did that fix the old user problem as well?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Bharak: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[13:43] <kandinski> cuci, I get two errors, "[  1581.222] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)" and "[  1581.225] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory"
[13:43] <cuci> kandinski: there you go
[13:43] <julio_> warfaren, If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[13:43] <Bharak> my error is that unity get bugged, i can`t see unity bar, neither system tray with turn off button, i need to use ctrl + alt + del to log off.
[13:43] <kandinski> cuci, do you know how to fix it?
[13:43] <Bharak> unity 3d, unity 2d is working
[13:43] <cuci> kandinski: were you using nvidia proprietary drivers?
[13:43] <kandinski> cuci, and why does my sister's account work then?
[13:44] <kandinski> cuci: I was
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> kandinski: blacklist the nv driver too, you can then install the proprietary driver ok :)
[13:44] <warfaren> well i guess you gotta stop gdm first, so go into a virtual terminal and type service gdm stop, but be aware all your programs running will close
[13:44] <cuci> kandinski: re-install the modules for the new kernel
[13:44] <warfaren> i believe you need to run service gdm stop as root aswell
[13:44] <awc> dc5ala, I cant create a new user. I'm in a guest session and it wont even let me "sudo su"
[13:44] <kandinski> cuci: how do I do that?
[13:45] <dc5ala> awc, go to a console via cltr+alt+f1 and login there are your normal user in admin group, there you can do a adduser
[13:45] <cuci> kandinski: I don't know by heart but I'm sure ubuntu has a wiki page for installing nvidia-drivers
[13:45] <awc> dc5ala, thanks
[13:45] <dc5ala> awc, i mean sudo adduser :)
[13:45] <kandinski> oh, the nvidia drivers only
[13:46] <cuci> ActionParsnip: after installing bcmwl-kernel-source, what was the next step again?
[13:46] <kandinski> ok, there is a tool, thanks, cuci
[13:46] <cuci> kandinski: np
[13:46] <awc> thanks dc5ala I'll back in a few
[13:46] <cuci> ActionParsnip: rebuilding b43-cutter? or after installing this should a rebbot suffice?
[13:46] <dc5ala> awc, you can go back to your graphical screen via alt+f7 or alt+f8, should be on one of these
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> cuci: go into the additional drivers and enable the STA driver
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> cuci: it states it on the broadcom documentation
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | cuci
[13:47] <cuci> ActionParsnip: I saw that but on kubuntu I'm not sure where that is
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> cuci: its the same in KDE
[13:48] <ardian_> Hi, I did a re-insall of windows on my machine I was dualbooting with Ubuntu 10.10 but now the grub menu has gone I can't boot into Ubuntu again please help
[13:48] <maizuddin35> does anyone here uses ubuntu 11.10 , ati graphic card with gnome-shell?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> cuci: in the KDE menu top, search for additional    and it will appear
[13:48] <g00se> How, please, do i bring up network manager to config the network?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> ardian_: boot to live CD or USB and reinstate grub
[13:48] <awc> dc5ala, it didn't help, I can loginto the new user, but not into my own
[13:49] <flummy> ok
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> ardian_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[13:49] <ardian_> ActionParsnip, can I only re-install grup cause I think it doesn't re-installs it without doing any partiotions
[13:49] <dc5ala> awc, same symptom with that new user?
[13:49] <flummy> i added XTerm*foreground: black and XTerm*bacvkground: white to /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm, now i have black on white xterms
[13:49] <Mrokii> Hello. Is there a terminal (bash) replacement for Synaptic?
[13:49] <awc> nope, the new user works fine
[13:49] <Younder> In 10.11 How do I disable the guest account?
[13:49] <maizuddin35> how can I install ubuntu with all the updates and application I installed in my laptop into my desktop pc that does not have any internet connection?
[13:50] <flummy> but i would still like to know how they have been inverted on 11.04 with the same XTerm resource file
[13:50] <hje841> How do you set the default terminal emulater in 11.10?  The one that appears then pressing "Ctrl+Alt+T"
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> ardian_: thats fine, thats all that missing as Windows installer is ignorant and blindly overwrites the MBR, you just need to put the GRUB (not Grup) loader back
[13:50] <Malcor> Hello, could I possibly have some help with ubuntu server, if anyone is free?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> hje841: its under default applications
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Malcor: ask away
[13:50] <warfaren> Mrokii: not sure? perhaps dpkg or aptitude?
[13:50] <awc> dc5ala, nope, the new user works fine
[13:50] <incorrect> Malcor, try ubuntu-server channel
[13:51] <hje841> ActionParsnip: nope. I don't see it
[13:51] <Malcor> I'll head over there, if no luck I'll be back. Thank you
[13:51] <maizuddin35> does anyone has problem when adding "online contact" in ubuntu 11.10?
[13:51] <dc5ala> awc, can you paste your ~/xsession-errors, e.g. via pastie.org or similar service?
[13:51] <vivid> Malcor, i have a few ubuntu servers...depends what you want to know, if you dont ask its impossible to have an answer
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> hje841: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-default-terminal-emulator-on-ubuntu-linux/
[13:53] <awc> dc5ala, /home/eric/xsession-errors: No such file or directory
[13:53] <dc5ala> awc, sry, the file starting with a dot
[13:53] <flummy> is it a known problem that a system freezes with black screens, not responding to ICMP anymore when one takes a mplayer window and moves it from screen to screen several times on a dual screen setup? (32bit, geforce 210 / GT218, nvidia driver provided by "additional driver" manager)
[13:53] <incorrect> ActionParsnip, useful link, thanks ;)
[13:53] <hje841> ActionParsnip: I found that howto myself, but it has no effect. I still get Gnome-terminal instead of my favourite Terminator
[13:53] <flummy> (didn't happen on 11.04)
[13:54] <awc> dc5ala, http://pastie.org/2700659
[13:54] <mzuverink> what shell command do I issue to figure out my ubuntu version, I believe I have 11.10 but is keeps wanting to distro update?
[13:54] <hulaka> I updated my Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 but didn't like it. So I made clean installation of Lubuntu. Everything good but ... for example Libreoffice fonts look ugly and its navigate panel fonts are super small
[13:55] <hulaka> basically all the fonts looks kinda different ...
[13:55] <hulaka> hard to explain, but maybe you know how to set all the fonts too just look fine
[13:55] <dc5ala> awc, with which session did that new user start? unity or unity2d?
[13:56] <awc> unity
[13:56] <awc> dc5ala, unity
[13:56] <awc> dc5ala, at least I think it did
[13:56] <gboudreau> having problems updating to 11.10 from 11.04 (ubuntu server). Stuck on: "Preparing to replace libc6 2.13-0ubuntu13 (using .../libc6_2.13-20ubuntu5_amd64.deb) ..."
[13:56] <flummy> hulaka: you can try 11.04 and install gnome-fallback-session and gnome-panel and gnome tweak tool and the Newlooks theme, this brings the GUI to 11.04 look and feel
[13:57] <flummy> correction
[13:57] <flummy> hulaka: you can try 11.10 and install gnome-fallback-session and gnome-panel and gnome tweak tool and the Newlooks theme, this brings the GUI to 11.04 look and feel
[13:57] <rhvbr> mzuverink: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion
[13:57] <gboudreau> ps auxwwf says this: http://pastie.org/2700672 ; seems stuck on "sync"
[13:57] <incorrect> hulaka, if you want gnone2ish try xubuntu
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> hje841: if you search dash for preferred  does the app not show?
[13:58] <mzuverink> rhvbr, found that ling, thanks
[13:58] <escott> mzuverink, lsb_release -a
[13:58] <hulaka> basically I was thinking about going for Lubuntu for a long time
[13:58] <marsje> Hi. Just tried to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10. When almost done it seems like the screensaver crashed and my screen was disabled. I logged on from another computer and rebooted the system. Now I cannot get passed the login screen :-(
[13:58] <flummy> incorrect: (at the time) he can get gnome 2 / 11.04 "clearlooks" look and feel easily on 11.10
[13:58] <hje841> ActionParsnip: I didn't get that
[13:58] <incorrect> flummy, apart from if he wants to change the font size
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> hulaka: you can change fonts in the config, make it bigger and such
[13:58] <dc5ala> awc, hard to tell from that log, it tests unity and fails then tries unity2d
[13:58] <hulaka> It's not 11.10 thing. I just want light system. Just that in Ubuntu everything looked smoother
[13:58] <awc> hmm dc5ala any suggestions?
[13:59] <flummy> incorrect: i think gnome tweak tool can do that, at least i've seen an option for that, don't know wether it works
[13:59] <maizuddin35> I uses ubuntu 11.10 and gnome-shell , my laptop has no graphic card, and it is kinda old kinda laptop, and it work smoothly. woh , this is weird.
[13:59] <marsje> anyone knows how to get my system in a usuable state again?
[13:59] <flummy> hulaka: you want to use less resources?
[13:59] <incorrect> flummy, best to use something that works rather than tweaking tools
[13:59] <flummy> incorrect: that's not a unix point of view
[14:00] <awc> marsje, you are going to have to give more information than that
[14:00] <incorrect> flummy, sure it is,
[14:00] <hulaka> yeah, not only though. I like Lubuntu, just that this time it looks weird (I had it before)
[14:00] <dc5ala> awc, i would start renaming some of the dot files and then see if can get it working, if you have a .nvidia-settings-rc rename that too
[14:00] <marsje> awc: I wish I had more information. I login, then a text screen flashes and then gets me back to the login screen.
[14:00] <Mrokii> warfaren: aptitude is the thing, thanks.
[14:00] <flummy> incorrect: :)
[14:00] <incorrect> flummy, why do you think they create LTS releases of ubuntu?
[14:00] <hulaka> Like, even this chat font is smaller than it was in Ubuntu
[14:00] <marsje> awc: seems like it cannot find/start gnome or whatever it tries to start nowadays
[14:01] <kandinski> still same problem as before: log in, screen goes black, back to log in screen
[14:01] <flummy> incorrect: because in the 90s, it was important to keep certified systems running without change for several years
[14:01] <marsje> kandinski: you have this too?
[14:01] <awc> marsje, sorry I can't really help you, I was just suggesting that youput more information that "help me it's broken"
[14:01] <hulaka> By the way ... there was a display test in Ubuntu ... can't find it in Lubuntu :S
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> hje841: update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator     worked here
[14:01] <kandinski> marsje: yes, but only with my user, not with my sister's user
[14:01] <Mrokii> Does anybody know a reason why Banshee on 11.10 crashes with lots of errors, one of which is "[ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: System.MissingMethodException: Method not found: 'System.Type.op_Inequality'."
[14:02] <kandinski> really weird
[14:02] <incorrect> flummy, its not important now? having working systems is a bad thing i know
[14:02] <marsje> awc: I know... you mist my 1st chat message I guess
[14:02] <padi999> I got an upgrade invitation for ubuntu 11.10. And there we go again: Unity. I hate it.And this time I seem not to be able to disable it. I tried following howtos but it seems impossible
[14:02] <hje841> ActionParsnip: I'll try relog
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: same as all users?
[14:02] <flummy> incorrect: "never touch a running systems" has been a stupid thing to say for decades now.
[14:02] <incorrect> padi999, xubuntu ;)
[14:02] <marsje> kandinski: I have set Ubuntu to start gnome, not the new thing.. maybe this is the problem
[14:02] <flummy> -s
[14:02] <xangua> !ot | flummy incorrect
[14:02] <ubulix> I HAVE INSTALLED UBUNTU 11.10  in vm AND HERE WHAT I THINK I WILL NEVER REMOVE 10.04
[14:02] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: What do you mean?
[14:02] <flummy> xangua: roger that
[14:02] <hulaka> Even fonts on some sites look smaller or ... different, so I don't know ....
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: does it happen as another (or new) user?
[14:03] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I haven't tried.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> !nounity | padi999
[14:03] <padi999> incorrect: I just want the good old gnome interface. simple, clean <-- this philosophy seems to have been abandoned by the gnome team
[14:03] <incorrect> padi999, me too
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: you should, sees if its the app or your config causing the issue
[14:03] <ubulix> I HAVE INSTALLED UBUNTU 11.10  in vm AND HERE WHAT I THINK I WILL NEVER REMOVE 10.04
[14:03] <ubulix> I HAVE INSTALLED UBUNTU 11.10  in vm AND HERE WHAT I THINK I WILL NEVER REMOVE 10.04
[14:03] <ubulix> I HAVE INSTALLED UBUNTU 11.10  in vm AND HERE WHAT I THINK I WILL NEVER REMOVE 10.04
[14:03] <flummy> padi999: i sent you my suggestion in a query
[14:03] <FloodBot1> ubulix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <Mrokii> ardian_: I see. I will try that.
[14:04] <tito_> I'm in trouble. can anyone please help me? :(
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !details | tito_
[14:04] <awc> dc5ala, where are these file that you want me to rename?
[14:04] <padi999> !classic
[14:04] <dc5ala> kandinski, marsje, have seen like 5 people with that problem, but i could not track it down yet, testing as new user it seems to work
[14:05] <hulaka> Or maybe this: what do you think about fonts smoothering & anti-aliasing? How should I set it?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> padi999: install xfce4 or lxde and you won't have to use Gnome / Unity. You can still use your gnome apps though
[14:05] <dc5ala> awc, in your $HOME
[14:05] <rhvbr> !unity
[14:05] <incorrect> padi999, i tried both xubuntu is pretty good
[14:05] <tito_> I upgraded to oneiric yesterday and didnt get the lightdm. So I installed lightdm and unity greeter manually and removed gdm. lightdm now works but all unity icons are now the old gnome icons and the whole thing has a windows 98 look (I'm totally new here, so I cant say technical terms)
[14:06] <marsje> dc5ala: my old login screen would get me to gnome, not unity... I think the upgrade did not handle this case correctly. On the login screen I have no option to choose Gnome or Unity... just ubuntu and ubuntu @D
[14:06] <marsje> 2D
[14:06] <albech> where is the mount tool for mounting remote servers?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> tito_: have you tried changing icon set?
[14:06] <tito_> how do I do that?
[14:06] <maizuddin35> marsje: I think you need to install gnome manually
[14:06] <albech> in 11.10 that is
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> albech: nautilus can do it
[14:06] <marsje> maizuddin35: which packages?
[14:07] <maizuddin35> the gnome-shell package ?
[14:07] <dong> Hi there. Is there anyone who can help me with an icon problem? gnome-search-tool is missing an icon in my ubuntu 11.10 installation
[14:07] <marsje> maizuddin35: just did it... will now reboot and see if it worked
[14:07] <maizuddin35> cool
[14:07] <maizuddin35> ok
[14:07] <maizuddin35> :)
[14:07] <awc> dc5ala, I can't access my primary account. I can't get root access, or give the new account root access
[14:08] <tito_> ActionParsnip: How do I change the icon set? I don't know anything. as I said, I'm totally new :(
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> tito_: in display properties
[14:08] <areeda> Does 11.10 handle multiple monitors with xinerama enabled any better than 11.03?
[14:08] <dong> how can I find out why gnome-search-tool doesn't have an icon? It looks like my icon theme is missing a few icons
[14:08] <dong> but i use standard icon theme
[14:09] <awc> dc5ala, I can get root via tty1 but how do I give the new account root access?
[14:09] <dc5ala> awc, you can put your new user to admin group, e.g. sudo adduser awc admin
[14:09] <awc> ok, ty
[14:09] <userrrrrrr> hi
[14:10] <userrrrrrr> can somebody help me with ubuntu 11.10?
[14:10] <areeda> dcScaka /etc/sudoers file
[14:10] <userrrrrrr> I want to create bootable USB, but usb-creator.exe is not included in ISO
[14:10] <marsje> maizuddin35: doesn't work... now I do have the choice to start gnome on the lgin screen, but whatever I choose, I end up back on the login screen
[14:11] <awc> dc5ala, how do I add the new account to the "sudoers file"?
[14:11] <rhvbr> userrrrrrr: There's instructions on the ubuntu download page
[14:11] <xangua> userrrrrrr: use unetbootin
[14:11] <maizuddin35> marsje : thats weird..
[14:11] <marsje> maizuddin35: and it sucks too...
[14:11] <maizuddin35> marsje : I think , i have problem with that kind of thing back then..need to check it out first...
[14:12] <gedO> Hello, can someone tell me why netbeans is missing form install list?
[14:12] <maizuddin35> marsje: had you try anything than the one I told you to do?
[14:12] <whyameye> is there something that replaced gnome-open in 11.10?
[14:12] <userrrrrrr> Do you know where can I download usb-creator.exe from?
[14:12] <marsje> maizuddin35: any logs I can check?
[14:12] <maizuddin35> its not right here with my now..
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: press SuperL and search dash
[14:12] <padi999> < ubottu> The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back  to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the  Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu  Classic".For 11.10, see !notunity
[14:12] <padi999> < ubottu> The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back  to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the  Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu  Classic".For 11.10, see !notunity
[14:13] <FloodBot1> padi999: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:13] <maizuddin35> marsje: im using my laptop, it happen with my desktop pc
[14:13] <marsje> maizuddin35: I installed gnome-shell, gnome-tweak-tool, gnome-panel
[14:13] <padi999> ubottu says: click username/session box at bottom of screen: There is no session box!
[14:13] <awc> dc5ala, figured it out, all i needed to to do was logout and back in again
[14:13] <gedO> Hello, can someone tell me why netbeans is missing form install list?
[14:13] <dc5ala> awc, yes
[14:14] <maizuddin35> marsje: what ubuntu version you use
[14:14] <maizuddin35> ?
[14:14] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: I'm wondering from the terminal window how to let gnome design the right app to use for opening a file. It used to be "gnome-open <document name>"
[14:14] <koichirose> Hi, my notifications disappear when I mouse over them. This happened with gnome2 and is still happening with gnome3. How do I fix it?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> padi999: click your username, it should be visible then
[14:14] <odinsbane> Is there a way to use the terminal to get network manager to connect to the internet?
[14:14] <mrdeb> odinsbane, yes, cli nm
[14:14] <odinsbane> ie I want to use an alternate tty without actually loading gnome.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: if you run the command, does it suggest a package?
[14:14] <odinsbane> mrdeb: cool Ill try it.
[14:15] <marsje> maizuddin35: something between 11.04 and 11.10... I just upgraded, but my upgrade went not quite right as my screensaver kicked in and turned off my screen permanently
[14:15] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: how do you "run" a zip file for instance. I used to type things like "gnome-open MyFile.zip" to get them to open in file-roller for example.
[14:16] <khaliG> gah, why does totem segfault all the time?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: type it in a terminal, just like that
[14:16] <kandinski> argh
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> tito_: grab a new icon set and open appearence settings from dash, then apply the icons there
[14:16] <mrdeb> you can also use wicd in terminal whihc is easier than nm but they ant ge installed at hte same time, and ubuntu likes nm to be integrated
[14:17] <edlang> Any idea why apt-get update would be 404ing on every file?
[14:17] <kandinski> marsje: I can't start any Desktop, not Gnome, not Unity
[14:17] <tito_> ActionParsnip: ok
[14:17] <odinsbane> mrdeb: oddly enough the cli nm is missing a dll, but Ill play with it later.  Thanks for the help.
[14:17] <maizuddin35> marsje, kandinski: you guys has the same problem?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> tito_: there is Faenza icon theme which seems popular :)
[14:17] <marsje> maizuddin35: it seesm so.. I can't start anything... I get something when I try guest login, but not a proper desktop
[14:17] <kandinski> maizuddin35: can't login, we get a black screen and back to the login manager
 just fix it, takes 2 minutes
 yeah,problem is I have a business to run and no time forthis mickey mouse stuff
[14:17] <flummy> ups
[14:17] <flummy> wrong chan
[14:18] <FloodBot1> flummy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: I get "command not found." It's ok I installed libgnome2-0 and now gnome-open works. I was just wondering if something had replaced it and I was going "legacy"
[14:18] <tito_> ActionParsnip: thanx :) trying that :)
[14:18] <maizuddin35> marsje: when you boot , have you try the 'recovery'?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> tito_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tiheum/equinox; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install faenza-icon-theme
[14:19] <tito_> ActionParsnip: thanx a lot :D
[14:19] <marsje> maizuddin35: not yet.. I have tried recovery screen from the login but also that does not work
[14:19] <Mrokii> Can somebody tell me how I can add something to the top-panel (menubar) of the classic environment in 11.10? Right-clicking doesn't seem to work anymore.
[14:19] <marsje> maizuddin35: so you mean from the grub menu?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> tito_: you'll still need to set the theme in display properties
[14:19] <maizuddin35> marsje, kandinski : you guys uses the same version of ubuntu? let me check out anyone who got the same problem like you guys,well, I had once
[14:19] <awc> dc5ala, renaming files didnt' help, but i did grab the .xsession-errors from my main account, would you like it?
[14:19] <edlang> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[14:19] <marsje> maizuddin35: I appreciate it
[14:19] <edlang> Does that make sense to anyone?
[14:20] <edlang> Why would I be seeing that?
[14:20] <kandinski> maizuddin35: I upgraded from  11.04 to 11.10
[14:20] <incorrect> edlang, apt-get update and try again? does it go away?
[14:20] <tito_> ActionParsnip: ok
[14:20] <dc5ala> awc, what did you rename? there must be something that causes the trouble
[14:20] <edlang> incorrect: No
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> tito_: you may need to log off and on to apply all icons
[14:20] <edlang> incorrect: it fails every time
[14:20] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: it looks like gfvs-open has replaced gnome-open
[14:21] <dc5ala> awc, oh, that .xsession-error was from another user?
[14:21] <incorrect> edlang, did you go there in a browser?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: ahhh I see
[14:21] <awc> i renamed the .nvidia-setting-rc
[14:21] <koichirose> Hi, my notifications disappear when I mouse over them. This happened with gnome2 and is still happening with gnome3. How do I fix it?
[14:21] <maizuddin35> marsje: kandinski : please check out this one
[14:21] <maizuddin35> marsje: kandinski : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860185
[14:22] <edlang> incorrect: Yes. there is no packages file, on packages.{gz,bz2}
[14:22] <awc> dc5ala, there are a few more for me to try that i just found
[14:22] <incorrect> edlang, odd
[14:22] <marsje> maizuddin35: the problem is... I have no desktop, no browser :)
[14:22] <kandinski> maizuddin35: thanks
[14:22] <tapplek> guh. upgrade to 11.10 leaves all my windows without title bars and stuck in unity
[14:22] <tito_> ActionParsnip: I tried, only the icon set is changing but it is still the classic GNOME (grey) look :(
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> tito_: try logging off and on
[14:23] <Asad2005> i have liferea running but when i press the icon in unity it does not show up not even from messaging menue. How can i unhide it
[14:23] <maizuddin35> marsje: are your computer now, connected with the internet ? if it is, please try to reinstall it back, like this, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:23] <iceroot> is there a reason why not all packages (e.g. terminator) have the "Supported: " entry? normally there is an info about the length of security-support
[14:23] <tito_> ActionParsnip: ok. be right back then.
[14:23] <marsje> maizuddin35: I'm in the console... but connected to internet
[14:23] <dc5ala> awc, or move those suspicious dot folders/files in a ~/test instead renaming them all
[14:24] <marsje> maizuddin35: ok, let me try to install ubuntu-desktop
[14:24] <awc> dc5ala, ok, I found a bunch of empty files, if I delete them will that break something?
[14:24] <maizuddin35> kandinski: if you solve your prblem via that forum, tell us what you did to do that , ok? ;)(
[14:25] <arghx> iceroot: cause "terminator" is part of universe and universe has no security guarantee whatsoever
[14:25] <iceroot> i have the packages "ubuntu-extras-keyring" and "ubuntu-keyring" installed. when pulling a package with "apt-get source" aot-get is telling me, that the rsa-key cant be checked. where can i found the correct key for the 11.10 repos?
[14:25] <dc5ala> awc, just create a directory and move stuff after stuff inside there till you get your system back, as i said i havent found out yet what causes this problem
[14:25] <arghx> are these keyrings from 11.10 or 11.04
[14:26] <kandinski> oh, deleting .Xauthority worked
[14:26] <iceroot> arghx: so the community is managing universe instead of canocial?
[14:26] <kandinski> thanks whoever pointed it out
[14:26] <dc5ala> awc, my system is working so have no real chance to track it down which file(s) cause this
[14:26] <kandinski> marsje: did you read that?
[14:26] <kandinski> I am  this close to switching to Debian...
[14:26] <arghx> !universe > iceroot
[14:27] <bosyak> I change keyboard layout by Ctrl. But it's block all other combinations, like Ctrl+R. How to avoid it?
[14:27] <failedUpdate> hey guys
[14:27] <awc> dc5ala, I just took a look at the xsession-errors file, It's filled with errors (The file is 1.3MB) Unfortunatley there are no timestamps so I have no idea if they are from today or not.
[14:28] <iceroot> arghx: ok, short story is canocial is building the packages with security-updates when the community is providing the security-patches
[14:29] <marsje> kandinski: reading back...
[14:29] <failedUpdate> i just updated to ubuntu 11.10 but something failed. About 3/4 of my icons are missing or replace with a default ugly window icon. Don't know what's wrong with them. Do you have any ideas?
[14:29] <kandinski> I wish I had stayed at 10.04
[14:29] <Reaper> back up the data you need, and do a fresh install
[14:29] <kandinski> I mean 11.04
[14:29] <marsje> kandinski: I have to delete .Xauthority? from where?
[14:29] <coppro> !unity
[14:29] <dc5ala> kandinski, was that a zero bytes .Xauthority?
[14:29] <iceroot> kandinski: never touch a running system
[14:29] <coppro> failedUpdate: ^
[14:29] <kandinski> marsje, from your home directory
[14:29] <Reaper> I may go back to 11.04, not sure yet tho
[14:30] <failedUpdate> @kadindki u doo to ^^
[14:30] <kandinski> iceroot: that was wise
[14:30] <marsje> kandinski: let me try
[14:30] <Kruptein> Hey I also updated to 11.10 but somehow my dash often is below my active applications
[14:30] <maizuddin35> kandinski: I think the best way, as for me, is to make a clean install
[14:30] <svs2> MATE project (Gnome 3 fork) is an alternative.
[14:30] <kandinski> dc5ala: dunno, I just deleted it
[14:30] <iceroot> kandinski: but most of the time people forgot this and after that.....
[14:30] <kandinski> yep
[14:30] <failedUpdate> @coppro what do you mean?
[14:31] <dc5ala> awc, try that too, deleting ~/.Xauthority
[14:31] <Asad2005> i have liferea running but when i press the icon in unity it does not show up not even from messaging menue. How can i unhide it
[14:31] <awc> dc5ala, ok, brb
[14:31] <marsje> kandinski: seems to work! I have a desktop again... not the one that I wanted but better than nothing :)
[14:31] <Kruptein> anyone know why my active applications are often atop of dash?  it's quite annoying to always minimize everything to be able to see the dash
[14:32] <kandinski> also my fonts are messed up in gnome-terminal
[14:32] <cwillu> Kruptein, there are updates expected in the coming weeks to fix a variety of issues with compiz and the unity shell;  stacking issues are among them
[14:32] <failedUpdate> coppro: what r u talking about?
[14:33] <failedUpdate> coppro: and what do i have to do with "!nounity"?
[14:33] <Kruptein> cwillu: I was expecting it but maybe there were already workarounds available ;)
[14:33] <Kruptein> cwillu: thanks anyway :)
[14:33] <failedUpdate> i mean "!unity"
[14:33] <cwillu> Kruptein, some of them are already in the -proposed repository if you feel like potentially breaking things worse :p
[14:33] <neo84> hi all I have installed 11.10 and strangely I am not able to see my mp3 in it
[14:33] <Kruptein> cwillu: nevermind :D
[14:33] <whyameye> Kruptein: if it makes you feel better/worse, I have the same problem and was googling to no avail.
[14:33] <neo84> but using terminal able to see those
[14:33] <neo84> cwillu : Hey dude
[14:34] <Kruptein> whyameye, cwillu  well I have the tendency to experiment a lot with my ubuntu  so that if there is a new release almost everything is f*cked up  and I have to do a fresh install :D
[14:34] <awc> dc5ala deleting the Xauthority files did the trick. Thank you!
[14:34] <Kruptein> with deja dup now being default it makes my life easier :p
[14:34] <failedUpdate> wow. Irc is a hole mess ^^
[14:34] <valdur55> Hey... In oneiric is one new repo.
[14:34] <cwillu> compiz still has a lot of baggage from when compositing was still very immature; we're running into a bunch of those weaknesses now
[14:34] <valdur55> what repo is it?
[14:35] <cwillu> there's work being done to fix it, but it's disruptive
[14:35] <neo84> any help
[14:36] <valdur55> what was new additional repo name?
[14:37] <marsje> I can't seem to get my old Gnome desktop back, with the Applications, Places and System menu... what is the trick for that?
[14:38] <mang0> [_miT_]: Allo :)
[14:38] <Bragex9> ronspirn: I have logged in to the terminal window. How do I rename the .config and .gnome2 directories in my home directory?
[14:38] <m-T> Hello.  Could someone give me their Oneric sources.list?  You won't believe what I just did.
[14:39] <valdur55> ohzie, i got it.
[14:39] <dc5ala> marsje, there is a gnome-session-fallback package, but it's missing the system menu
[14:39] <failedUpdate> i just updated to ubuntu 11.10 but something failed. About 3/4 of my icons are missing or replace with a default ugly window icon. Don't know what's wrong with them. Do you have any ideas?
[14:39] <m-T> failedUpdate: have you tried restarting gnome-settings-daemon?
[14:40] <failedUpdate> m-T: i restarted the whole system. Or is there a difference?
[14:40] <DNX> hi guys. My shotwell crashs continuously when I try to export some photos after today's upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10. Any ideas?
[14:40] <dc5ala> m-T, confused vim with rm? ;)
[14:41] <marsje> dc5ala: can I install it?
[14:41] <marsje> dc5ala: or won't that help?
[14:41] <DNX> shotwel error: ERROR:x86_64-linux-gnu/core/DataSource.c:1417:data_source_contact_subscribers: assertion failed: (!self->priv->in_contact) Aborted
[14:41] <dc5ala> marsje, sure, but it's not exactly what you had before, is missing few things, but give it a try and see
[14:41] <NecessAndAry> just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my netbook and it hangs on startup with the last two messages : *Starting NTP server ntpd [OK] and *Starting bluetooth [OK];       bluetooth is (hardware wise) enabled
[14:41] <m-T> try: killall -9 gnome-settings-daemon && gnome-settings-daemon && killall -9 nautilus
[14:42] <tapplek> Bragex9: mv .config .config.bak
[14:42] <marsje> dc5ala: seems the package is already installed
[14:42] <m-T> dc5ala: ha , :P
[14:42] <Vardam1r> hi, I want to know how to install netbeans in ubuntu 11.10 . It dissapeared after upgrade, but appears as installed in software center
[14:42] <m-T> could someone post their oneric /etc/apt/sources.list though, just bjorked mine.
[14:43] <luca> dear friends I can't see avi on ubuntu 11.10
[14:43] <Guest46173> ciao
[14:43] <luca> how can i do to see videos??
[14:43] <dc5ala> marsje, think this is under classic session then in your login manager
[14:43] <tito_> ActionParsnip: I installed faenza with gnome tweak tool. And now I realize the main problem with my system is it doesnt have a shell theme. What do I do? :P
[14:44] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello! I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu Server i386 on my Debian x86 PC. amd64 is recommended for installation of Ubuntu Server 11.10. Isn't the Ubuntu Server well-tuned for i386?
[14:44] <Bragex9> tapplek: thanks! How do I restart the computer from the terminal window?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> m-T: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708578/
[14:44] <tapplek> Bragex9: shutdown -r now
[14:44] <luca> someone of you can see the videos??
[14:44] <tapplek> may need to sudo
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tito_: do you mean gnome shell?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> tapplek: yes, shutdown needs sudo
[14:45] <tapplek> Bragex9: sudo shutdown -r now
[14:45] <lunt> or "sudo reboot"
[14:45] <_0bitcount> http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot/statement
[14:45] <NecessAndAry> luca:  a bit more information about your current graphics card would help
[14:45] <tito_> ActionParsnip: gnome tweak shows there is "shell theme" installed. both gnome shell and unity look like windows 98 :/
[14:45] <tito_> *no shell theme installed
[14:45] <m-T> ActionParsnip: thank you
[14:46] <njr> Hi, Im trying to install Ubuntu 11.04, but the Installer gets stuck at "detectingg file systems"
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> tito_: i use neither, sorry
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> njr: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[14:46] <tapplek> blasted ubuntu. is getting worse every release
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> tapplek: been the same here for thelast 4 releases
[14:47] <njr> I'll do that. It boots proeperly though, 1 thing... Im booting the ISO from my harddisk.... Its not burned
[14:47] <failedUpdate> Ubuntu is a real good system but the updating does suck.
[14:47] <lunt> to tito_:i have the same problem
[14:47] <rustyshackleford> how can i find out which version of a program is running when i go to applications > whatever > some program from the menu up top
[14:47] <luca> NecessAndAry: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 2400
[14:47] <tito_> lunt: did you manage to get a solution?
[14:47] <rustyshackleford> which from the command line doesn't lead me to that same version
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> rustyshackleford: dpkg -l | grep name
[14:48] <NecessAndAry> Did you install any drivers till now?
[14:48] <NecessAndAry> (for the graphics card)
[14:48] <tapplek> luca: ooh. that's my gpu. well, except for the mobility part
[14:48] <rustyshackleford> i didn't install it via apt, if that matters
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> tapplek: if you don't use Gnome, the UI doesn't change and everything is fine
[14:48] <dr3mro> hello i use ubuntu 11.10 every thing is fine except i can't login to facebook chat can one help m e?
[14:49] <luca> tapplek: I can't see videos on ubuntu 11.10
[14:49] <Reaper> did you install the 3rd party software?
[14:49] <lunt> no
[14:49] <Reaper> lol thats why
[14:49] <luca> tapplek: I can hear only audio but not videos I see all green screen
[14:49] <Vardam1r> hi, how to install netbeans in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:50] <tito_> anyone know how to reinstall "shell theme" in oneiric?
[14:50] <tapplek> I was using gnome clasic (no effects) in 11.04. now I installed gnome shell, and when I try that, login never completes. just dumps me on an empty desktop
[14:50] <njr> ActionParsnip where can i get the correect md5sum for 11.4
[14:50] <NecessAndAry> luca: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | ajr
[14:50] <tapplek> luca: dunno. I'm able to use gstreamer to see videos
[14:51] <bucaneiro> GirlyGirl: this channel is not the same without  you
[14:51] <Reaper> tapplek how did you get gnome classic to work?
[14:51] <NecessAndAry> Linux has it's own option, sadly I never tested any drivers from ati so idea how hard it will be
[14:51] <oCean> ActionParsnip: njr for pre-11.10 releases (hashes) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[14:51] <christopher> in the new 11.10 it is set to "change throughout the say" how do I change it so the wallpapers skip faster or slower?
[14:52] <seemawn> hi
[14:52] <luca> NecessAndAry: I don't have AMD My graphic card is ATI I have Intel
[14:52] <Deihmos> how would i know if ubuntu supports acceleration with my video card
[14:52] <tapplek> ubuntu has way too freaking many levels of configuration
[14:52] <Deihmos> i find things to be slow.
[14:52] <seemawn> i have some problems with sound in kubuntu. Sound works for kde-apps, but for firefox/opera it is calm
[14:52] <tapplek> and they are always out of sync
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> luca: AMD owns Ati
[14:52] <njr> Ok, the checksum is correct... any idea why the instller would stick at "detecting filesystems"... Ive booted from an ISO on a partitiion instead ff from a CD
[14:53] <NecessAndAry> luca: what he said :-D
[14:53] <bucaneiro> what you mena with 'calm'?
[14:53] <stefancrs> hey, I'm an ubuntu noob and tried to install the latest version of web server nginx, but got errors processing a package. Now all apt-get commands complain about unmet dependencies, and I just want to revert to an older version of nginx. what to do?
[14:53] <tiggle> hi.. i just want to edit a file with vi. if i press i for insert mode it wont let me edit it.. for example when i press down/up arrow random letters appear. what did i do wrong?
[14:53] <ectabyte> I need some help setting up dual monitors with amdcccle 11.9 and gnome-shell. I change the settings to multidisplay but when I apply them, amdcccle closes and the changes don't work. But when I get into lightdm, the monitors are set up correctly and not cloned..
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> njr: MD5 test the ISO BEFORE burning in future, did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[14:53] <GirlyGirl> failedUpdate: If your update did not go properly please run "sudo apt-get install -f"
[14:53] <cwillu> tiggle, vi doesn't use arrow keyes
[14:53] <cwillu> tiggle, perhaps you want vim
[14:53] <stefancrs> this happens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708585/
[14:53] <tiggle> ok ill download it
[14:54] <Bragex9> Tapplek: renaming the directories did not solve my problem. Can I try to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, or is that a bad idea b4 my problem is solved?
[14:54] <bucaneiro> anyone is having problem with gcc 4.6.x?
[14:54] <tapplek> Bragex9: dunno. upgrading entirely broke my desktop
[14:54] <failedUpdate> GirlyGirl: nothing happend.
[14:54] <dr3mro> hello i can't login to chat in ubuntu 11.10 here is the message http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7300/screenshotat20111015165.jpg
[14:54] <cwillu> bucaneiro, gotta ask a question
[14:54] <tapplek> can't get worse, in theory
[14:54] <NecessAndAry> luca: Step by Step:  Step 1: Notebook graphics Step 2:Radeon HD Series Step 3:Mobility Radeon HD 2xxx Series Step 4: Linux x86 or 64 depends on what you hCW
[14:54] <bucaneiro> ggc for ubunt
[14:54] <failedUpdate> GirlyGirl: i mean no updates or installations has been proceeded
[14:54] <tiggle> wow thanks cwillu, vim is so much better!
[14:54] <NecessAndAry> luca: *have
[14:54] <ironhalik> Ive got some unusual problem witn oneiric - fonts get rendered incorectly, with t missing the dash in firefox and irssi
[14:55] <tiggle> working perfectly now
[14:55] <GirlyGirl> failedUpdate: you can do a "unity --reset"
[14:55] <Bragex9> Tapplek: I will try and see what happens..
[14:55] <harold> hola necesito entrar en ubuntu español porfavor
[14:55] <christopher> wow radiance finally works nicely I like it. Now add more themes
[14:56] <paladinlaw> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and when i installed the new nvidia drivers and restarted im getting a black screen. i cant even go in to safe mode
[14:56] <failedUpdate> GirlyGirl: client failed to connect to the d-bus daemon
[14:56] <stefancrs> and if I try to do an apt-get install -f that failes too, like so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708586/
[14:56] <Guest46173> ciao
[14:56] <Guest46173> !list
[14:56] <Egbert9e9> Lets see what the white moon brings
[14:56] <harold> hello any help?
[14:56] <scarleo> !sp | harold
[14:56] <scarleo> !es | harold
[14:57] <harold> ty
[14:57] <njr> ActionParsnip I didnt burn the CD, I booted from the ISO on my hardisk. It booted. But while installing (after selecting the mointpoints and all) it hangs while trying to detect filesystems
[14:57] <christopher> thats stupidly annoying, when you try to grab an inactive window border with 3d enabled it wont let you, it wont let you close or minimize or move it unless you make it the active window first by other means
[14:57] <luca> NecessAndAry: I'm downloading the driver I don't remember i did it in the last version
[14:57] <stefancrs> ah, removed packages with dpkg. seems to be all good
[14:58] <paladinlaw> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and when i installed the new nvidia drivers and restarted im getting a black screen. i cant even go in to safe mode
[14:58] <Younder> In 10.11 How do I disable the guest account?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> njr: ahh I see. Is it on it's own small partition?
[14:58] <NecessAndAry> luca: I sadly have no hands-on experience with ati cards
[14:58] <Phr3d13> is there anything like wally or a way to get wally to work on 11.10?
[14:58] <jargonfactory> haha
[14:58] <njr> No, its in my old hhome folder (I didnt select that for the instll though)
[14:58] <panda81> Hi. Synaptic Package manager says "failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/source/Sources 404 not found", along with many others.
[14:58] <jargonfactory> hi folks \o
[14:59] <njr> No, its in my old hhome folder (I didnt select that for the instll though) ActionParsnip
[14:59] <arc_of_descent> hey, I'm not getting any sound as normal user. As root user, I do. Just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10
[14:59] <panda81> is this because I'm on Ubuntu 8
[14:59] <luca> NecessAndAry: which is your card?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> Younder: sudo passwd -dl guest
[14:59] <NoelJB> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/875054
[14:59] <Younder> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:59] <tapplek> how do I stop x? service gdm stop doesn't work
[14:59] <Vardam1r> Hi, do you know how to fix VLC audio slight lag in ubuntu 11.10?
[14:59] <NecessAndAry> Question... how can I disable my bluethooth drivers when they stop me from booting into the system (best way would be through grub?)??
[15:00] <howaaa1> I changed System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects to "None". But when I restart computer "None" gets unselected again ...... Any help ?? (using ubuntu 10.04)
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Vardam1r: select a different video output method maybe..
[15:00] <NecessAndAry> luca: Intel GMA 500 on an Atom powered netbook ;-D
[15:00] <Vardam1r> actionparsnip ok, thank you
[15:01] <panda81> If I upgrade from Ubuntu 8, would I need larger memory as typical with Windows upgrades
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> panda81: no, the requirements are pretty much the same
[15:02] <NecessAndAry> Question... how can I disable my bluethooth drivers when they stop me from booting into the system (best way would be through grub?)??
[15:03] <panda81> ActionParsnip: Oh good. I'm on Virtual box so any memory requirement increase would be impactful.
[15:03] <arc_of_descent> Bug:  I'm not getting any sound as normal user. As root user, I do. Just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10
[15:04] <christopher> how do I check my task list?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> panda81: no worries, using a light DE like LXDE instead of Gnome will make a more responsive virtual desktop
[15:04] <dc5ala> arc_of_descent, is your user in (audio) group?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> impactful ? another new word for the english dictrionary
[15:04] <Reaper> LOL
[15:05] <panda81> ActionParsnip: Using LXDE would be the same as Lubuntu?
[15:05] <arc_of_descent> dcSala, yes. groups
[15:05] <arc_of_descent> rohan adm dialout cdrom audio plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[15:05] <Bharak> Can someone help me? Unity3d is not starting on Ubuntu 11.10. That just happens with Unity3d on this user, how can I solve this
[15:06] <panda81> BluesKaj: I hear people say that word.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> panda81: similar, lubuntu just uses at as default. You can still use your gnome apps in LXDE. installing only LXDE will install less data
[15:06] <dc5ala> Bharak, but it works on other user you mean?
[15:06] <Bharak> Yes.
[15:06] <tapplek> Bharak: probably need to reset some settings in home directory. trying to figure out which ones myself
[15:06] <klj613> ./configure results in "checking whether the C compiler works... no" unsure what to do
[15:07] <harold> hello all
[15:07] <mguy> klj613: have you installed the development tools?
[15:07] <dc5ala> Bharak, try deleting your .Xauthority
[15:07] <rbnswartz> I'm trying to optimize my ubuntu machine. I ran bootchart and it reports that there is a block of time at the beginning of the boot process. Anyone know how to remove this?
[15:07] <panda81> ActionParsnip: The update manager only let me upgrade to 9.10. Would I have to go through several rounds of upgrade
[15:07] <Bharak> Look, i updated the ubuntu, and i was using it normally when it just stopped responding. and then, unity 3d is not working anymore.
[15:07] <klj613> unsure, i used aptitude to install packages following tutorial, some results in 404 i think though.
[15:08] <Wardt_> Did anyone ran into problems with Thunderbird when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10?
[15:08] <Wardt_> My saved searches are ruined. Everything else (concerning Thunderbird) works
[15:08] <Wardt_> fine. Below is an example from panacea.dat:
[15:08] <Wardt_> sbd/01. Tags.sbd/01. Starred.msf)(DB33=01. Starred)>
[15:08] <Wardt_> sbd/01. Tags.sbd/02. Important.msf)(DC17=02. Important)(154AB=1318621442)
[15:08] <FloodBot1> Wardt_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:08] <klj613> https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq/blob/1x/README.rdoc "install ruby 1.9.2"
[15:08] <Wardt_> The first saved search works (because I recreated it after the upgrade),
[15:08] <Bharak> dc5ala, how should i do that
[15:08] <nrdb> how come the /usr/lib/libssl.so doesn't seem to have all the aes functions in it?
[15:08] <LjL> klj613: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:08] <BluesKaj> panda81, yeah , but do you need to repeat it...impact used to be a noun.. it never was a verb or adverb...but that's just me. It depresses me to see the english language being abused with such impunity :(
[15:08] <Jwmto> Hello, I need help with an 11.10 upgrade issue.  Nautilus seems broken and dropbox as well.  I suspect the dropbox problem is derivative of the nautilus problem.  Can anyone help or direct me to a more appropriate forum?
[15:08] <Bharak> just rm .Xauthority on home directory
[15:08] <Rogowski> Why the 64-bits version of Ubuntu 11.10 isn't recomended?
[15:08] <rostayob> I have a problem, the trackpoint scroll doesn't work in 11.10
[15:08] <Wardt_> Sorry for the flood. :$
[15:08] <Rogowski> It's non-stable?
[15:08] <Rogowski> Why the 64-bits version of Ubuntu 11.10 isn't recomended?
[15:08] <dc5ala> Bharak, yes
[15:09] <rostayob> using gpointing-device-settings to configure it
[15:09] <Bharak> dc5ala, done, should i test it now
[15:09] <yeats> rostayob: who says it's not recommended?
[15:09] <dc5ala> Bharak, give it a try
[15:09] <rbnswartz> Jwmto askubuntu.com is the only other support forum I know of
[15:09] <Bharak> ok
[15:09] <yeats> rostayob: sorry - meant for Rogowski
[15:09] <jamil_1> any body seen this error:  symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiobamf.so: undefined symbol: g_desktop_app_info_launch_handler_get_type
[15:09] <yeats> Rogowski: who says it's not recommended?
[15:09] <klj613> LjL: i get two "404 Not Found" when i enter Yes
[15:09] <Phr3d13> does anyone know how to make wally work in 11.10?
[15:09] <luca> NecessAndAry: It's a file .run now gedit is opening it but it takes a lot of time is it normal??
[15:10] <airtonix> Phr3d13: ask him nicely?
[15:10] <Mashed> Rogowski because 32 bit will work on everyones kit. It's 'default' for newer users that may not understand the difference. afaik
[15:10] <LjL> BluesKaj: i don't know what dictionary you use, but all the ones i've checked have "impact" as a verb... anyway, ot :P
[15:10] <tapplek> ah. found the magic command to stop x: sudo service lightdm stop
[15:10] <Rogowski> The Ubuntu's site recommends the 32-bits.
[15:10] <panda81> blueskaj: Impactful is in the dictionary
[15:10] <LjL> klj613: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:10] <klj613> okay
[15:10] <awanti> hi i am new to linux. I have some question can any one explain me about this. "Linux is providing hacking tools, is the data is secured in linux. if yes how it will work again that hacking tools:.
[15:10] <Phr3d13> airtonix, i tried that, now he starts, but he doesn't change the wallpapers
[15:10] <Rogowski> I would like to know why...
[15:10] <panda81> blueskaj: Impactful is in the dictionary
[15:10] <Bharak> dc5ala, nothing .-.
[15:11] <Phr3d13> airtonix, :-)
[15:11] <yeats> Rogowski: what Mashed says is true - 32-bit is recommended for most users, but that doesn't mean that 64-bit is *not* recommended
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> panda81: you will need to upgrade to each intermediate release to get to the final destination
[15:11] <airtonix> Phr3d13: maybe you have to teach wally how to change the wallpaper then
[15:11] <Jwmto> Rbnswartz: i'll work there too.  Anyone else know how do deal with nautilus breaking on the upgrade to 11.10?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> yeats: 3rd parties still support 32bit better
[15:11] <dc5ala> Bharak, does it fall back to unity2d then?
[15:11] <airtonix> Phr3d13: seriously though, what is Wally ?
[15:11] <rbnswartz> Jwmto What exactly broke?
[15:11] <Bharak> dc5ala, no, i need to log off using ctrl + alt + del, and re-login using unity2d
[15:11] <yeats> Rogowski: because 32-bit will install on anything - some users don't know what 32- or 64-bit means, so it's better to be inclusive ;-)
[15:11] <Phr3d13> airtonix, its a wallpaper changer program
[15:11] <yeats> ActionParsnip: true
[15:12] <Wardt_> Does anyone want to help me with my Thunderbird upgrade problem?
[15:12] <rostayob> also, is there any solution to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/809500 ?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> panda81, yeah isn't it depressing
[15:12] <tapplek> 64 bit means unstable
[15:12] <Phr3d13> airtonix, it changes your wallpaper as per your settings automatically
[15:12] <anti_theocon> tech question about irc servers - where to go?
[15:12] <Rogowski> Hum...
[15:13] <LjL> anti_theocon: "where to go" is a tech question?
[15:13] <klj613> LjL: http://pastebin.com/3peKmxhZ
[15:13] <Phr3d13> i am currently booted into the gnome session from the drop down list of choices
[15:13] <Mashed> anti_theocon pm me
[15:13] <Bharak> dc5ala, when i log in using unity3d, unity doesn`t starts, but a tray shows up, like if i`m on a folder.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> tapplek: not at all
[15:13] <airtonix> Phr3d13: you mean this one : http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/wally-wallpaper-changer-242-released.html
[15:13] <BluesKaj> interner dictionaries don't count IMO :)
[15:13] <psisa_filin> Hi everyone! I have one trouble question: Does anyone get installation problems (via standart install, to textual) with new series of  AMD Radeons' video cards? (about Ubuntu 11.10)
[15:13] <BluesKaj> err internet
[15:13] <Jwmto> Nautilus failed to upgrade and doesn't run.  The desktop does not show the folder contents.  Dropbox also failed to upgrade and can't install because of dependency issues.  Other file managers and the file system do work.
[15:13] <luca> how can you open a file .run???
[15:13] <Rogowski> tapplek: This is serious or you just kidding me?
[15:13] <dc5ala> Bharak, are you using nvidia?
[15:13] <Rogowski> LO!
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> luca: mark as executable then run in a terminal
[15:13] <jamil_1> luca: chmod +x .run
[15:13] <Rogowski> LOL!
[15:13] <LjL> klj613: that seems right, try doing a "sudo apt-get update" and then installing build-essential again
[15:13] <luca> I tried with ./ but it doesn't work
[15:13] <blergsly> Bharak, I had a similar issue when my ~/.config/compiz-1/compizconfig/config file got corrupted, had to copy default file back in
 chmod +x <file> then ./<file>
[15:14] <Bharak> dc5ala, no, i`m using an on board. .-.
[15:14] <klj613> LjL: okay
[15:14] <Bharak> blergsly, yes! i was using compiz when ubuntu stopped working.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Bharak: my nvidia gpu is onboard...
[15:14] <blergsly> check that file out
[15:14] <yeats> Rogowski: don't listen to him - I have been running 64-bit for years without problems
[15:14] <klj613> LjL: thanks, working now :)
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> luca: what is the filename
[15:14] <Bharak> dc5ala, ActionParsnip this justs happens with this user
[15:14] <Phr3d13> airtonix, yeah, that's the one, wonder if that's the version i have, cause if so, it should work, since i'm in the gnome shell session
[15:14] <Bharak> blergsly, how do u did it
[15:15] <luca> ati-driver-installer-11-9-x86.x86_64.run
[15:15] <blergsly> Bharak: I was trying to mess with compiz settings in ccsm, and it messed up the file
[15:15] <Rogowski> yeats: Ok!
[15:15] <yeats> Rogowski: I think your best option is to try 64-bit out & if it is not working for you, move to 32-bit
[15:15] <Mashed> luca stop!
[15:15] <scott_onanski> Does anyone have a solution for slow wifi connections in Ubuntu 11.10
[15:15] <Mashed> use the ubuntu packages!
[15:15] <blergsly> Bharak: can't remember where the default file was, but it's on the system already
[15:15] <Bharak> blergsly, but how i get the default file back
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Bharak: "onvoard" doesn't mean it cannot be an nvidia gpu
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> !ati | luca
[15:16] <blergsly> Bharak: I copied from /etc/compizconfig/config
[15:16] <panda81> BluesKaj: if it's on the web version it must be in the print version ;)
[15:16] <BluesKaj> panda81, internet dictionaries aren't real dictionaries
[15:17] <LjL> can we move the linguistics talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[15:17] <paladinlaw> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and when i installed the new nvidia drivers and restarted im getting a black screen. i cant even go in to safe mode.
[15:17] <Rogowski> yeats: Currently, I use Windows 7 - 'cause some develep tools aren't available to linux distros - dual-boot with Debian amd64.
[15:17] <airtonix> Phr3d13: don't bother, it's not going to work in oneric at the moment
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> paladinlaw: drop to root recovery mode and run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot, may help
[15:17] <Phr3d13> airtonix, i'm not using the unity interface though
[15:17] <yeats> Rogowski: then Ubuntu 64 should serve you well if you choose to move to it - it's based on Debian
[15:18] <Bharak> blergsly, i replaced it
[15:18] <Bharak> lemme test now xd
 Me too, I've install Ubuntu 11.10 (textual) and can not start safe-mode - it hangs up
[15:18] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, nomodeset for paladinlaw perhaps ?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: possibly, its free to try
[15:19] <paladinlaw> ActionParsnip: recovery mode doesnt work
[15:19] <tapplek> cool. now neither unity nor gnome startup
[15:19] <panda81> BluesKaj: well English has had many influences from others.
[15:19] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: nomodeset is on
[15:19] <Rogowski> yeats: I know. And it has a better user experience, too, no?!
[15:19] <tapplek> whatever happened to just startx and be done with it
[15:20] <yeats> Rogowski: that's a matter of opinion, but I think the people in this channel would mostly agree that Ubuntu's user experience is good
[15:20] <DeltaEpsilon> can I pin something such as notes on my "desktop"?
[15:20] <Bharak> blergsly, YES!! it worked XD
[15:20] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw, then try ActionParsnip's suggestion and drop to a tty and run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:20] <blergsly> Bharak: excellent
[15:21]  * yeats stays away from the word "better" in linux chatrooms ;-)
[15:21] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: Recovery mode gets black too
[15:21] <Phr3d13> airtonix, the deb package for 2.4.2 on the creators site works when using the gnome session in 11.10
[15:21] <Bharak> blergsly, dc5ala, Thank you both.
[15:21] <Rogowski> yeats: I'll try this one.
[15:21]  * Mashed aimes his flame cannon at yeats :)
[15:21] <Bharak> bb
[15:21] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw, which nvidia card ?
[15:21] <paladinlaw> BlueKaj: geforce 250GTS
[15:21] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I tried starting Banshee with another user. Same result (crashing).
[15:21] <yeats> Mashed: exactly ;-)
[15:22] <adj11> can someone please tell me how to disable the shutdown confirmation box in 11.10? Setting the suppress_logout_restart_shutdown key doesn't work anymore.. This is driving me nuts...
[15:22] <DeltaEpsilon> can I pin something such as notes on my "desktop"?
[15:22] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: worked good before i installed the nvidia current update
[15:22] <fulvio> !list
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: sounds like a bug then
[15:23] <raven> how to install 11.10 with classical surface?
[15:23] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Seems 11.10 has plenty...
[15:23] <Phr3d13> DeltaEpsilon, tomboy notes?
[15:23] <Leeds27m> hi all, I'm using oneric with gnome 3..I was just browsing synaptic and saw the firefox-gnome-support package...can anyone tell me quickly what this would be, as firefox seems to work fine without it
[15:24] <lfaraone> For some reason, xdg-email ignores my setting in gnome-control-center to use thunderbird, and always opens up an instance of chromium-browser on the homepage. Any idea how I can debug this? Setting XDG_UTILS_DEBUG_LEVEL didn't give any addit'l information.
[15:24] <yeats> !notunity | raven
[15:24] <Aikar> ugh
[15:24] <DeltaEpsilon> Phr3d13, tomboynotes does not pin to my desktop
[15:24] <Aikar> ive used unity for 1 day and already hate it again
[15:24] <Mashed> Leeds27m `apt-cache show firefox-gnome-support` will tell you
[15:24] <Leeds27m> ty mashed
[15:24] <raven> yeats, ok tnx
[15:24] <klj613> in putty, it asking me for a decription or EOF. how do i EOF?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> !nounity | Aikar
[15:24] <Aikar> why does the unity bar not come up when i move my mouse to the left if i have a maximized window?
[15:25] <bhavesh> How can I install gnome 3.2 dock extension?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Aikar: set the hide method in ccsm
[15:25] <Phr3d13> DeltaEpsilon, Xpad, or Rhinote?
[15:25] <Aikar> and why does the terminal not honor "show menubar", its eating my keybinds like Control + R from going to my remote server
[15:25] <yeats> raven: note that it is not GNOME 2 - GNOME Shell is actually quite similar to Unity in many ways - fans of GNOME 2 are kind of left out in the cold by the major distros from here on it seems ;-)
[15:25] <Aikar> alt+R*
[15:26] <Mrokii> raven: To add something to the panels you will have to use alt+right mouse button (not just right click).
[15:26] <Aikar> or E, looks like R goes through
[15:26] <methril> wome weird problem with readline
[15:26] <methril> someone see that?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> yeats: install xfce4 and use that, it will smell and feel like gnome 2
[15:26] <Aikar> really killing my ability to use irssi
[15:26] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw, did you remove quiet splash in /etc/default/grub ... I hear it works for some setups
[15:26] <yeats> ActionParsnip: yeah - I'm good with Unity, but I was just letting raven know ;-)
[15:26] <GirlyGirl> ActionParsnip: gnome 2 has a smell??
[15:27] <Rhonda> A friend of mine has troubles after upgrading to oneiric - the graphical interface comes up, weekday and time on top, right upper corner has a button to suspend/shut down/reboot, and middle of screen is a white box with a computer symbol in the middle and ubuntu beneith.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> GirlyGirl: hehe kinda
[15:27] <GirlyGirl> yeats: Gnome 3 has a mode called fallback or something that looks like gnome 2
[15:27] <Rhonda> I can right-click on the world "ubuntu" below the computer and it changes into "ubuntu 11.04".
[15:27] <Qation> I really need some help setting up dual monitors, the settings that I set for amdcccle don't save once I log in although they work in simpledm. This is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/P5XmNKfM I'm using catalyst 11.9 with gnome-shell
[15:28] <yeats> GirlyGirl: yep - I know ;-)
[15:28] <Aikar> ok, setting it to never hide is a great improvement. now how can i fix terminal menus intercepting Alt+E etc?
[15:28] <Rhonda> Ah, the upgrade seems to have stopped somewhere in the middle.
[15:28] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: nope, didnt work.
[15:29] <Qation> Anyone have any idea how I can solve it?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw, bummer :(
[15:29] <paladinlaw> BLuesKaj: cant i uninstall nvidia from grub?
[15:29] <Titmouse> Hm 11.10 is gonna take some time to get used too.
[15:29] <Mashed> Qation did you install the drivers manually?
[15:29] <bhavesh> apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions?
[15:30] <Qation> Mashed: Yes gnome-shell doesn't work with the default ones
[15:30] <_kad> hey need help with my 11.10, when i "safely remove" the External HDD the laptop freeze, i wasn't having this with my 11.04 !! is there any solution for that? thx
[15:30] <murlidhar> how can i play rmvb files in ubuntu ?
[15:30] <Titmouse> Is it possible to change the position of the launcher to the bottom in 11.10?
[15:30] <panda81> Upgrading from Ubuntu 8 to 9, 9 to 10, 10 to 11 would be so slow. How about I just download the latest Lubuntu? I'm using Virtualbox and need Linux for development purposes
[15:30] <murlidhar> any codecs to play it in totem player ?
[15:30] <brad[]> Hi folks. Anyone here with more than 2 monitors?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw, from the recovery kernqael dialog you can get to TTY prompt as root yes , then uninstall from there
[15:30] <xangua> murlidhar: install codecs - sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:30] <trans> hello everyone
[15:31] <bzuhzp> uh..
[15:31] <Qation> Mashed: I followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[15:31] <murlidhar> xangua: that should allow it to play in totem ?
[15:31] <xangua> murlidhar: yes
[15:31] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: how :D
[15:31] <murlidhar> xangua: ah thanks :)
[15:31] <trans> anyone know solutions for nvidia blank screen problem after running nvidia-xconfig
[15:31] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw, kernel recovery dialog
[15:31] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: what should i type there
[15:32] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw, hold the shft key down after the bios scrn til grub appears then choose the recovery kernel
[15:32] <steph7> hi..some news about backport modules cw for onereic??
[15:33] <virusuy> hi everyone, good morning!
[15:33] <Aikar> my unity dash is opening behind other windows... ><
[15:34] <trans> anyone here ended up with blank screen after installing nvidia
[15:34] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: should i press C? or what do you mean
[15:34] <zmbmartin> Aikar: from login?
[15:34] <tapplek> bah. installed lxde and even it won't start
[15:34] <xangua> Aikar: try to reset unity with: unity --reset
[15:34] <Aikar> zmbmartin: no? the dash
[15:34] <tapplek> and startx just says not authorized
[15:34] <zmbmartin> Aikar: I see that problem sometimes after a wake up from sleep or hibernate.
[15:34] <tapplek> I hate all this newfangled crap freedesktep threw on top of x
[15:35] <Aikar> reset appears to of fixed it
[15:35] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw, when booting hold the shft key down after the bios scrn til grub appears
[15:36] <virusuy> i don't know if i'm the only one who's suffering this, but sometimes Unity don't respond properly
[15:36] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: after that?
[15:36] <virusuy> when i move to left side of my screen (to bring unity) doesn't work
[15:36] <Aikar> so does noone know how to make Terminal ignore Alt+E etc and not open up menus, and send the keypress to the terminal instead?
[15:36] <mashed> virusuy what are your system specs? I had a similar issue on my netbook
[15:36] <BluesKaj> paladinlaw,  then choose the recovery kernel
[15:37] <virusuy> mashed, dell inspiron 1525
[15:37] <Aikar> in Classic simply turning off Menubars worked, but now its off but the top menubar is eating the keypresses
[15:37] <mashed> please elaborate
[15:37] <paladinlaw> BluesKaj: already tried that.. gives me a black screen
[15:38] <tapplek> Aikar: can use an old school terminal like rxvt rather than the bloated gnome one
[15:38] <dispi> hello, updated to newest ubuntu and now my lenovo thinkpad t61i soundcard does not output sound from jack, what to do?
[15:38] <dispi> r61i to correct
[15:39] <dispi> from the laptop speakers yes but no external source :C
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> dispi: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[15:39] <bhavesh> webud8 says ill have to download the GNOME SHELL extensions for here: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-extensions/ but I cant even find a download button.. There is a like below download but it shows me numbers and numbers...
[15:39] <mashed> Aikar surely just use xterm if the 'features' of gnome-terminal are irritating you
[15:39]  * milanoa says hi
[15:39] <cheni> any guide to reproduce 720p and 1080p fluidly in ubuntu 11.xx?
[15:40] <mashed> dispi add yourself in to the audio group
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> cheni: mid to high range nvidia helps wonders
[15:40] <virusuy> mashed, one workaround is press super key to bring dash and then you can use Unity
[15:40] <xangua> bhavesh: webupd8 has a post about 11.10 and gnome shell extensions in a ppa
[15:40] <booh> I update ubuntu to 11.11 and now, I hate my desktop.  How to restore my bottom panel, my menu etc.. ?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> !nounity | booh
[15:41] <cheni> I'm afraid I'm stuck with ATI
[15:41] <paladinlaw> ActionParsnip: im getting black screen pn both
[15:41] <bhavesh> xangua, yea alright
[15:41] <paladinlaw> ActionParsnip: both recovery and normal
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> paladinlaw: boot to root recovery mode and run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:41] <booh> thanks ActionParsnip
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> paladinlaw: or use liveCD and mount the internal partition
[15:41] <dispi> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6241afac06bea3182425e8a60540c27e5e15123a
[15:42] <paladinlaw> ActionParsnip: k i will try that
[15:42] <Deihmos> is ubuntu suppose to be faster than win 7?
[15:42] <deebee> Deihmos: define "faster"
[15:43] <cheni> xDD
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> dispi: try adding      options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad      to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: it can be, depends on the config of both
[15:43] <Deihmos> load applications faster, smooth UI etc
[15:43] <Aikar> unity has killed my ability to use irssi now... please help me turn off menus on terminal ; ;
[15:43] <davis_> wireless lan isn't working.. m amilo 7400 with an extra wireless button
[15:44] <BioKey> Hi, I have trouble while installing Jupiter on Oneiric. I can't launch it despite the log in / log out. Any ideas ?
[15:44] <Deihmos> I installed the ati drivers and did not make a difference
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: I'd say so, yes.Depends on config and hardware and so many things there is no one answer
[15:44] <bhavesh> xangua, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html :)
[15:44] <Eduard> Hello every 1
[15:45] <deebee> Deihmos: On decent hardware, they both should be more than snappy enough
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> dispi: keep that link, its a lot of useful info about sound
[15:45] <Deihmos> maybe there is hardware acceleration
[15:45] <Deihmos> seems really slow
[15:45] <davis_> wireless lan isn't working
[15:46] <incolla> hola
[15:47] <mashed> davis_ ask a question and we can try and help :)
[15:47] <mdn20910> hello... i upgraded my laptop to 11.10 yesterday and it seems to make my router (Actiontec MI242WR) stop working
[15:48] <dispi> ActionParsnip, when on terminal what is the correct way to open texteditor to do the editing? su something and that address right?
[15:48] <davis_> what is the command for my m amilo 7400 to set the wirless button to on?
[15:48] <hulaka> Got lubuntu 11.10. When right-click on desktop I accidently changed the menu that shows up. Now it's some OpenBox menu - how to change it back?
[15:48] <Rhonda> Aikar: what? no irssi?? that must get solved!!
[15:48] <DeltaEpsilon> as much as I love Ubuntu, the whole software eco system of it sucks :-(
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> dispi: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[15:49] <Eduard> guys, does unity 2d run on an somehow modified version of compiz?
[15:49] <Rhonda> Aikar: does esc-<key> work instead to meta-<key>?
[15:49] <davis_> mashed: what is the command to set the wireless button of my m amilo 7400 to on?
[15:50] <mashed> DeltaEpsilon there is not software eco system. It is a collection of applications created by other people.
[15:50] <Deihmos> DeltaEpsilon, what do you expect for free
[15:51] <kurisu> hmm... testing libnotify ... could someone 'shout' at me please
[15:51] <mashed> davis_ i don't know unfortunatly. Are you sure that your wireless is being detected?
[15:51] <dispi> ActionParsnip, added, nothing happens, next?
[15:52] <nice> hi
[15:52] <nice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/708599/
[15:52] <nice> how do i apply that patch ?
[15:52] <davis_> mashed: it works with windows xp. on linux i need a special comman. but i have forgotten it and i dont find it with google
[15:53] <kurisu> could someone type my nick please... testing libnotifu in irssi
[15:53] <arc_nit_india> hi everyone i got error in compiling wubi like cd src/metadl; make
[15:53] <arc_nit_india> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/arpan/Desktop/hd/src/metadl'
[15:53] <arc_nit_india> Error: libcurl is missing. Please run "make prerequisites".
[15:53] <arc_nit_india> make[1]: *** [curl-7.17.0/lib/.libs/libcurl.a] Error 1
[15:53] <arc_nit_india> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/arpan/Desktop/hd/src/metadl'
[15:53] <arc_nit_india> make: *** [build/plugins/metadl.dll] Error
[15:53] <nice> kurisu:
[15:53] <arc_nit_india> i need help
[15:53] <kurisu> hmmm... that didn't work
[15:53] <kurisu> >.<
[15:53] <deebee> !pastebin | arc_nit_india
[15:54] <kurisu> nice: but thanks anyway
[15:54] <BioKey> Hi, I have trouble while installing Jupiter on Oneiric. I can't launch it despite the log in / log out. Any ideas ?
[15:54] <mashed> davis_ do you mean ndiswrapper?
[15:54] <nice> u r welcome
[15:54] <arghx> !errors > BioKey
[15:55] <deebee> arc_nit_india: did you try running 'make prerequisites' as that error is suggesting you do?
[15:55] <ubuntizer> oneiric drops ubuntu classic?
[15:55] <Mike98632> When I use gnome-shell, everything looks distorted, and I'm assuming it's because of a graphics driver. When I try to install the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver from the Additional Drivers program, it gives me this error: Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log. Here is the jockey.log file: http://pastebin.com/27Sb6KAj
[15:55] <davis_> i don't know <<beginner
[15:55] <davis_> mashed: don't know << beginner
[15:55] <BioKey> I have no error message, it just doesn't launch
[15:55] <arc_nit_india> at deebe it gives error like tools/build-prerequisites
[15:55] <arc_nit_india> Installing NSIS
[15:55] <arc_nit_india> tools/build-prerequisites: 26: wineprefixcreate: not found
[15:55] <arc_nit_india> make: *** [prerequisites] Error 1
[15:55] <nice> usemoslinux: i read your blog
[15:55] <usemoslinux> great!
[15:55] <davis_> mashed: it has to be a command at the start of ubuntu, and then the wirless lan works
[15:56] <usemoslinux> i'm playing around with ubuntu 11.10 right now!
[15:56] <alexGlasgow> hi, is there programs which can hide my IP ?
[15:56] <nice> cool
[15:56] <xangua> !cloak | alexGlasgow
[15:56] <winut> can you place the unity panel at the bottom of the screen yet like a proper dock? thanks
[15:56] <arghx> alexGlasgow: hide it where exactly?
[15:56] <BioKey> All my apps are whitlisted but Jupiter doesn't show up
[15:56] <xangua> winut: is not a dock, is a launcher
[15:56] <deebee> arc_nit_india: please *do not* paste multiple lines of error text in the channel. Please use a pastebin
[15:56] <ubuntizer> oneiric drops gnome classic right?
[15:56] <winut> whatever, can you?
[15:56] <mashed> davis_ i know of no magic command. Gnome is fairly good at configuring wireless so long as it can be detected can you pastebin the output of `lspci` for me?
[15:57] <xangua> !nounity | ubuntizer
[15:57] <arghx> ubuntizer: gnome 2 is gone, yes. /msg ubottu nounity
[15:57] <arc_nit_india> i dont know what is pastebin..im sorry...but i want a help
[15:57] <arghx> davis_: so what wlan chip do you have? (lspci -nn) and has it ever worked under another version of ubuntu?
[15:57] <mashed> paste.ubuntu.com
[15:57] <alexGlasgow> arghx: i am from UK. i want to use a website which only for US users
[15:57] <arghx> !paste
[15:57] <ubuntizer> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel will bring it back?
[15:57] <davis_> mashed: thats the problem, i just have one pc.. so im in internet with windows now..
[15:58] <deebee> !pastebin | arc_nit_india, see the links on here, that I sent you previously...
[15:58] <arghx> alexGlasgow: you need a proxy which is located in the USA. giving you such a proxy is outside the scope of this channel. please use google
[15:58] <booh> Ok thanks, I have now the bottom panel... but... I can't add or modify top panel... and the X and _ button are at left... I want my X button at right...
[15:58] <davis_> arghx: yes it has worked. i had ubuntu installed on windows. i deleted it and know i have them parallel
[15:58] <arghx> davis_: again: which wlan chip?
[15:58] <alexGlasgow> arghx: thnx
[15:59] <mashed> davis_ then my suggestion is that you install linux in a virtual machine such as virtualbox until you have the basics covered.
[15:59] <booh> And I don't have the menu item with preferences, admin.. etc.
[15:59] <deebee> arc_nit_india: it's very easy to use, just paste the text into the web page and post the link to it in here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:59] <davis_> arghx: http://www.chip.de/produkte/Fujitsu-Amilo-M-7400_15949541.html
[15:59] <arghx> davis_: go and get a ethernet cable. use the ethernet cable to get on the internet with ubuntu and then come here so we can help you fix your ubuntu wlan
[15:59] <arc_nit_india> http://paste.ubuntu.com/openid/login/?next=/708626/plain/
[16:00] <arghx> davis_: this url is meaningless for us
[16:00] <Pondera> hello
[16:00] <thegladiator> any alternatives for oncelot's GUI
[16:00] <Pondera> im sorry i can find the page about fixing grub2 for installation
[16:00] <booh> need help to restore my gnome..
[16:00] <thegladiator> the gui is freezing in my netbook
[16:00] <Pondera> cant*
[16:00] <arghx> thegladiator: lots. kde, lxde, xfce, gnome3.
[16:00] <nunne> After upgrading to 11.10 my system cant boot. It tried to mount a raid disk.. which the naming scheme seems to be broken. so it has defaulted to /dev/md0 .. so obviously it fails.. BUUUUT during this time (when you can press S to skip) i cant use my usb bluetooth keyboard.. if i boot into (recovery mode) i can use the keyboard.. but NOT when i try to remount all the partition.. when it tries to mount the raid partition e
[16:00] <nunne> ither the system freezes or the keyboard stops working. hard to tell what happens :/
[16:00] <arghx> thegladiator: I suggest you run xfce or lxde
[16:00] <thegladiator> I mean arghx suggestions
[16:01] <thegladiator> how about the old gnome
[16:01] <arc_nit_india> deebee: im developing customised ubuntu so i want to compile wubi to integreate into it ...do u know how to do it???
[16:01] <Pondera> hello may anyone like the "fixingGrub2AfterInstalling windows page ?
[16:01] <arghx> nunne: reinstall grub properly via recovery mode then
[16:01] <nunne> and now im booting a old 10.10 LiveCD ... and I cant mount the partitions..... I see /dev/sda5 only.. but cant mount it (so i can change my fstab)
[16:01] <xangua> !gnome2 | thegladiator
[16:01] <nunne> arghx, this shouldnt be anything related to grub?
[16:01] <davis_> it isn't my wireless lan.. so i can't just go and get a cable
[16:01] <thegladiator> !notunity
[16:02] <Pondera> !!grubbroken
[16:02] <ubuntizer> arc_nit_india: ask your nit university professors. i am sure they are dumb asses like you
[16:02] <Pondera> !grubbroken
[16:02] <deebee> arc_nit_india: No, it's not something I've done. I was just pointing you to use pastebin so it'll be more likely you'll get help from others
[16:02] <Pondera> !Grub Broken
[16:02] <davis_> arghx: it isnt my wireless lan so i cant just go and get some cable
[16:02] <thegladiator> lol please no personal insutls here
[16:02] <deebee> ubuntizer: there's no need for that
[16:02] <nunne> fdisk -l shows /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 . extended plus /dev/sda5 as swap
[16:02] <arghx> davis_: so it's the ethernet that is broken?
[16:02] <Deihmos> ubottu, would that speed things up?
[16:02] <Pondera> hello may anyone like the "fixingGrub2AfterInstalling windows page ?
[16:03] <nunne> but i dont have any /dev/sda6 etc... which should be my / .. so i cant mount my root from the LiveCD and fix the problem
[16:03] <arghx> davis_: ah, not your AP. so go home and make it work there first
[16:03] <booh> where is the gnome-tweak-tool ??
[16:03] <meowsus> Hey guys. I just updated to Oneiric and all my lists in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ were disabled (obviously). Is there any way to easily tell if any of these sources have oneiric distributions ready to go? Is it okay to install from the natty repos for right now if they dont have oneiric sources?
[16:03] <arghx> !fixgrub | Pondera
[16:03] <arc_nit_india> debee: if you know that tell me????
[16:03] <davis_> arghx: i have no home.. no use^^
[16:03] <deebee> arc_nit_india: I can't help you but others might be able to
[16:04] <arc_nit_india> debee:ok..thanks for the talk
[16:04] <davis_> arghx: so i just know, that the extern wireless on button has to be switched on in ubuntu
[16:04] <booh> !classic
[16:04] <arc_nit_india> can anyone help me to compile wubi into customised distro???
[16:04] <booh> !nounity
[16:05] <thegladiator> anyone btw having issues with unity ? Looks like some bugs , could be by atom netbook though
[16:05] <booh> where is the gnome-tweak-tool??
[16:05] <dschie> hi #, i'm using a logitech g35 usb headset. sound works fine, but somehow the headset is also recognized as an x11 pointing device and every time i hit the mute button, my cursor jumps around. anyone an idea to that?
[16:05] <xangua> booh: saw a post to tweak oneiric on webupd8 blog
[16:06] <booh> xangua??????
[16:06] <thegladiator> gnome-tweak-tool is that a tweak or something I need to DO to get gnome-shel ?
[16:06] <arc_nit_india> can anyone help me to compile wubi into customised distro???
[16:06] <nunne> anyone know why i cant mount my partitions in LiveCD (10.10) after updating to 11.10.. i need to fix my fstab.. because ubuntu freezes when trying to mount a raid parition that it cant find.. dont know why it freezes and cant continue without it though.. must be a bug :/
[16:06] <arc_nit_india> can anyone help me to compile wubi into customised distro???
[16:06] <xangua> !repeat | arc_nit_india
[16:06] <Deihmos> is the kde version faster than unity?
[16:07] <thegladiator> arc_nit_india, okay stop the repeat , someone will answer or try at the Forums
[16:07] <booh> Grrrrrr why this f***ing new interface... a lot of people are stuck now.   Ubuntu update should ask BEFORE making this kind of update.
[16:07] <davis_> ok, so i go on searching on google
[16:07] <davis_> i hate not to have a home.. shit germans
[16:07] <thegladiator> Deihmos, whats ur opinion on unity
[16:07] <arc_nit_india> ok,...@all
[16:07] <arghx> thegladiator: do not take polls. this channel is for support only
[16:08] <booh> What is or where is gnome-tweak-tool ???  Nobody seem to know... a lot ask, no one answer really.
[16:08] <thegladiator> right sorry
[16:08] <deebee> arc_nit_india: explain what you have tried so far, and exactly what is going wrong. Use pastebin to provide errors/output from any commands you have tried. It will be more likely you will get help that way
[16:08] <Deihmos> thegladiator, slow
[16:08] <thegladiator> fine , curious as I had some problems too
[16:08] <jamil_1> how do you paste online from commandline ?
[16:08] <thegladiator> arghx, btw I not taking a pools , just his experience as I too am having some problems
[16:08] <xangua> booh: i already tod you to check on webupd8 post
[16:08] <xangua> blog*
[16:09] <booh> I don't understand what you said!
[16:09] <john32> does anyone know why the pause/play next/previous track media keys on my keyboard when i press them display a square with a circle and a strike through it?
[16:09] <booh> I don't know what is "webupd8"
[16:09] <arghx> !pastebinit
[16:09] <meowsus> Hey guys. I just updated to Oneiric and all my lists in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ were disabled (obviously). Is there any way to easily tell if any of these sources have oneiric distributions ready to go? Is it okay to install from the natty repos for right now if they dont have oneiric sources?
[16:09] <xangua> booh:  do you know what a blog is¿
[16:10] <arghx> jamil_1: see what ubottu just wrote
[16:10] <xangua> meowsus: test it one by one¿ check your ppa's¿
[16:10] <nunne> in ubuntu recovery mode. is there a good way to re-mount / to be writable??
[16:10] <booh> xangua: it's ok if you don't want to help.  Someone else will.
[16:10] <deebee> booh: try typing it in Google. It's the top result. Someone was probably referring to an article on there
[16:10] <jpjacobs> nunne: mount -o remount,rw
[16:10] <meowsus> xangua, is it problematic to install natty packages on an oneiric system?
[16:10] <arc_nit_india> debee: i have read one tutorial from forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504 and its for hardy and when i compile it using make command than i tried make prere...that u said but it gives error of wineprefixcreate not found error
[16:10] <xangua> booh: check webupd8 blog, how hard to di is that¿
[16:11] <jamil_1> arghx: sorry if it was offtopic but none of my browser is working right now
[16:11] <booh> I don't know what is the webupd8 blog!  I told you, you speach grebish for me
[16:11] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I am on a HP Mini 5102 with an Intel graphic card, I am trying to have a VGA output working, but cloned screen only gives me 800x600, any help please?
[16:11] <dispi> hello, does anyone else know what is wrong with my sound, thinkpad r61i laptop speakers work but no sound on jack, on sound settings output on the connector thing there is only option analog speakers
[16:11] <deebee> booh: http://www.webupd8.org/
[16:12] <dispi> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6241afac06bea3182425e8a60540c27e5e15123a this is my alsainfo
[16:12] <arc_nit_india> deebee:i tried lucid wubi code as per that tutorial nothing found for lucid
[16:12] <arghx> jamil_1: it's not offtopic. it's what we're here for
[16:12] <dispi> on earlier versions it did work fine... :(
[16:12] <arc_nit_india> deebee: i have read one tutorial from forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504 and its for hardy and when i compile it using make command than i tried make prere...that u said but it gives error of wineprefixcreate not found error
[16:13] <booh> grrrrrrr forget it.  I will just format the f*cking pc with something else.  I'm tired.  I can't find my things after the update, I regrett.  It's enough ubuntu, I will use another one.
[16:13] <deebee> arc_nit_india: don't ask me, ask the whole channel :) Explain everything in one single message to the whole channel. If you don't get any help, wait a while and repeat it.
[16:13] <john32> does anyone know why the pause/play next/previous track media keys on my keyboard when i press them display a square with a circle and a strike through it?
[16:13] <booh> I lost my time just to retreive my things.  It's just stupid.
[16:13] <xangua> !language | booh
[16:13] <fred2040> hello
[16:14] <john32> booh: don't let the door hit you on the way out ;)
[16:14] <booh> It's impossible to be polite when a nuke just arrive in my computer and destroy my environnement like this update does.
[16:14] <john32> booh: which environment?
[16:14] <booh> all my desktop john
[16:14] <booh> all
[16:14] <booh> I'm lost.  I can do nothing.
[16:14] <deebee> booh: I'm afraid you won't get *any* help from people if you aren't polite. It's not their fault your computer is having problems, and they're helping people for free
[16:15] <john32> oh you don't like the new unity thing?
[16:15] <booh> nothing is at this place.
[16:15] <booh> no I HATE this.
[16:15] <Mike98632> When I use gnome-shell, everything looks distorted, and I'm assuming it's because of a graphics driver. When I try to install the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver from the Additional Drivers program, it gives me this error: Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log. Here is the jockey.log file: http://pastebin.com/27Sb6KAj Can anyone help me solve this issue?
[16:15] <john32> i actually think it's kind of nice lol, just came back from KDE takes some getting used to
[16:15] <john32> booh: you can go back to normal gnome 3 shell if you want
[16:15] <dark_eye> or install another disto booh ;)
[16:15] <fred2040> hi, there is someway to get or install guarddog on Ubuntu 11.10?
[16:16] <xangua> just remember if you install gnome shell you won't have unity ;)
[16:16] <arghx> !info guarddog
[16:16] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi???
[16:16] <booh> yes john32, I want my gnome that I had in 10.10
[16:16] <fred2040> from archive.ubuntu.com?
[16:16] <booh> hum... in 9.10
[16:16] <john32> booh: lxde is nice ;)
[16:16] <booh> no in 10.10 ok...
[16:16] <LjL> booh: you can't have it, GNOME 2 is no longer supported by the GNOME foundation. anyway it's not like the Update Manager doesn't *ask* before doing distribution upgrades.
[16:17] <craka> Hi! Is it possible to connect to Linux machines, just via one cable (no LAN. just one cable put on end in one machine and the other in the other...) for exampel for file transfer. I searched the Web for this but I was unable to find anything. Just a keyword what to look for whould be nice.
[16:17] <dark_eye> just use gnome 2 distros then
[16:17] <booh> I just want to restore menus, and my panel at top and be able to modify my panel
[16:17] <LjL> booh: you can have a similar experience though by installing fallback mode
[16:17] <john32> oh LjL yeah i only came back to it just then
[16:17] <albech> booh, the best recommendation is to always have two partitions on your machine and do rolling between the releases... i have done this for years now and have never found myself without a production environment
[16:17] <deebee> arc_nit_india: That's better, but include a pastebin with the exact errors you are getting so people can read it
[16:17] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I am on a HP Mini 5102 with an Intel graphic card, I am trying to have a VGA output working, but cloned screen only gives me 800x600, any help please?
[16:17] <john32> gnome 2 sucks lol i left it because it's crap
[16:17] <nice> yes? i am nice?
[16:17] <xangua> !nounity | booh
[16:17] <xangua> or use another desktop like xfce or kde
[16:17] <john32> how different is ubuntu's default to the gnome 3 default
[16:17] <booh> LjL: a lot of people told me I can do this this or that... but I just don't have any idea how to do it
[16:18] <LjL> booh: "sudo apt-get install gnome-panel" from a terminal
[16:18] <john32> or use your package manager program
[16:18] <sgs2_usr> hi guys, i have now switched to GNOME session instead of the Unity 3d session on 11.10, but question is how do i get back the little envelope icon on the top panel?
[16:18] <arc_nit_india> http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:18] <booh> LjL: it's done.  Anyway... I can't modify my panel, I lost icones... etc.
[16:19] <LjL> booh: well it's not GNOME 2, it will never be entirely like GNOME 2.
[16:19] <booh> It's time to ubuntu to question themselves!  A lot of people rollback...
[16:19] <meowsus> When I run "sudo aptitude update" I get 404 Not Found errors for http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric/main Sources  is anyone else running into this?
[16:19] <hulaka> On Lubuntu 11.10 - why almost every software fonts look so small & ugly? On certain websites they're also ugly - once smaller, once bigger. Everything look just different/disorted/worse ...
[16:19] <john32> booh: not really it's a gnome change
[16:19] <arc_nit_india> deebee:i dont know how to use paste bin exactly...plz explain easly(im newbie)
[16:19] <john32> that's upstream
[16:19] <LjL> booh: if anything, it's time for GNOME to question itself, Ubuntu just follows what GNOME does.
[16:19] <nunne> jpjacobs, thanks! now i can at least boot... but my keyboard wont work
[16:20] <deebee> arc_nit_india: What you just did was correct :)
[16:20] <delac> Is it possible to close the advertisements on Software Center, or is Ubuntu on its way to become advertisement funded?
[16:20] <john32> hulaka: maybe an odd resolution? seems to work fine on my machine
[16:20] <LjL> booh: anyway it's always a good idea to inform oneself on what a distribution upgrade does before accepting to install it
[16:20] <booh> So it's impossible to retreive my environnement???????66
[16:20] <nunne> anyone else had problems with their keyboard after upgrade to 11.10?? i cant use my bluetooth usb keyboard.. trying to re-connect it.. but it just wont.. it works in bios etc.. and in recovery mode.. and in 11.04.. but not now :/ mousghe works thou
[16:20] <LjL> booh: yes. it's impossible go to back to GNOME 2 without rolling back.
[16:21] <sgs2_usr> there is no way of getting back the minimize icon on the window in GNOME?
[16:21] <deebee> deebee: You just paste the text into pastebin and then put the link to it in here with an explanation of your problem
[16:21] <booh> oh no!
[16:21] <john32> not to mention gnome2 probably has bugs that will never get fixed as it's unsupported
[16:21] <StevenR> how do I make firefox accept text input? I can't type into any text boxes (address bar, google box, search pages on sites, etc)
[16:21] <john32> just go with the flow :) or try lxde it's quite similar to old gnome2 but a lot faster
[16:21] <booh> It's impossible to place icons on my panel?
[16:22] <john32> aka lubuntu
[16:22] <john32> you can in unity by clicking pin to panel if that's what you're asking
[16:22] <DarkStar1> 0rllc4g3
[16:22] <The_BROS> How to add visual effects into Gnom Classic?
[16:22] <dark_eye> john32: Gnome2 distros fixes themselves those
[16:22] <booh> john: I don't undersand.
[16:22] <booh> what is clicling pin?
[16:22] <sharpshooter> Haii all !! I  install kubuntu desktop in my ubuntu 11.10 box ...and I need to uninstall the kubuntu desktop
[16:22] <deebee> StevenR: very strange. is it only Firefox? Have you restarted Firefox? Have you restarted Ubuntu? Is it intermittent or all the time? Did you recently change anything that might have made it go wrong?
[16:23] <john32> dark_eye: and they're a lot smaller with a lot less resources so none of the big distros are gonna stick with gnome 2
[16:23] <StevenR> deebee: worked earlier. no longer works. I've not restarted anything yet
[16:23] <LjL> booh: in Unity - start a program, then right click on its icon on the left panel, and then click "Pin" or what it's called. then it'll stick there.
[16:23] <john32> its like tying to find a distro that ships with kde3
[16:23] <dark_eye> john32: it's not, you can easily find gnome2 distros
[16:23] <jamil_1> HELP: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiobamf.so: undefined symbol: g_desktop_app_info_launch_handler_get_type
[16:23] <dark_eye> john32: Ever heard RHEL, Scientific Linux, CentOS, Fuduntu?
[16:24] <john32> dark_eye: ones that are just gnome 2 because they haven't upgraded yet lol
[16:24] <booh> I want my X _ [] buttons at right
[16:24] <hulaka> john32: odd resolution? Like ... how? Fonts looked ok on Ubuntu ...
[16:24] <john32> dark_eye: centos will most certainly go to gnome 3 in future releases as will rhel
[16:24] <dark_eye> john32: upgrade? You mean downgrade?
[16:24] <booh> And I want my menu FILE, EDIT... in the window
[16:24] <arghx> dark_eye: they will go away soon too. some later some sooner but gnome2 isn't developed and supported upstream anymore
[16:24] <StevenR> deebee: restarting firefox worked, but that's not awesome
[16:24] <BioKey> Hi, I have trouble while installing Jupiter on Oneiric. I can't launch it despite the log in / log out. I don't have any error but it just doesn't show up. Any ideas ?
[16:25] <booh> BRB
[16:25] <hulaka> Some fonts are ok ... like system windows, system menu and so on. But on most software they are way too small
[16:25] <dark_eye> Yeah in 2 year timescale where gnome3 would be matured enough - or not. At least you can use gnome2 2-3 years still without hassle
[16:25] <arghx> BioKey: how exactly did you install this "jupiter"?
[16:25] <john32> hulaka: i meant like a large resolution or something like that because the fonts seem to look pretty okay on my two boxes runing LXDE
[16:25] <dark_eye> Jupiter is awesome
[16:25] <klipdas> In ubuntu 11.10, the unity dash window is not the top, if other window maximize, I cannot see the unity dash when press win key, how can i do?
[16:26] <BioKey> arghx : with the PPA:webupd8team/jupiter
[16:26] <arghx> !ppa
[16:26] <xangua> klipdas: tried to reset unity with¿: unity --reset
[16:26] <dark_eye> I still wonder why you upgraded from 10.10 LTS for the basic 11 -version.
[16:26] <hulaka> john32: I don't know ... just like I said - half of the fonts are ok, other half are bad. Oh well ... always something wrong with my linux set up. lol.
[16:27] <arghx> BioKey: there is a reason ppas are not supported here: their packages are of very bad quality usually. you can check what binaries were installed with "dpkg -L <jupiter package you installed> | grep bin
[16:27] <xangua> dark_eye: 10.10 is not lts
[16:27] <totex> is there any way to remove amd unsupported hardware watermark? the fix on arch linux wiki didnt work
[16:27] <john32> hulaka: was it clean install or upgrade?
[16:27] <Florin91> hi
[16:27] <BioKey> I saw that those ppas were recommended with ubuntu to make Jupiter works
[16:27] <arghx> dark_eye: you broke your ubuntu. HARD. reinstall.  upgrades are only supported from one version to the next. never by omitting releases as you did
[16:27] <pdq> sgs2_usr, if you have gnome-tweak-tool installed you can tweak what window control buttons are shown
[16:28] <hulaka> john32: First it was Ubuntu 11.04. Updated to 11.10. Didn't like it so I made a clean installation of Lubuntu 11.10 / 64 bit
[16:28] <sgs2_usr> pdq: i have it installed, but could not see that option
[16:28] <booh> Ok I go back in unity... possible to have the panel in unity?
[16:28] <john32> hulaka: i did a clean install on a laptop old laptop at 32bit and didn't notice any font issues perhaps take a screenshot
[16:28] <kamiii> hulaka have you tried gnome-tweak-tool?
[16:28] <Florin91> I have .. some how a networking problem. I will try  my best to describe it
[16:28] <john32> so people know what you are talking about hallman
[16:28] <booh> the bottom panel
[16:28] <xangua> !nounity
[16:28] <xangua> booh: we have already told you lots of ways
[16:29] <Florin91> I must connect to an openvpn server with multiple machines using a single client configuration file
[16:29] <sharpshooter> Haii all !! I  install kubuntu desktop in my ubuntu 11.10 box ...and I need to uninstall the kubuntu desktop
[16:29] <famgod> has anyone succesfully installed the the catalyst (fglrx) 11.9 on ubuntu?  I remove (apt-get remove fglrx) but when I try to install the 11.9 drivers it says there are older drivers already installed...help!
[16:29] <xangua> !puregnome | sharpshooter
[16:30] <booh> xangua: please, don't lose your time to talk to me, you're not helpfull for me.  I prefer other people answer me.  you just make me out of me at each line you write to me.  Thanks.
[16:30] <pdq> sgs2_usr, you are using gnome-shell or unity or?
[16:30] <BioKey> arghx : what do you suggest me to do ? I saw those ppas on the ubuntu wiki so i thought itwas ok
[16:30] <arghx> !errors | famgod
[16:30] <sgs2_usr> pdq: gnome-shell
[16:30] <arghx> BioKey: I told you what to do.
[16:30] <totex> famgod, DONT install the 11.9 driver. it is very buggy and useless!
[16:30] <Florin91> I thought I could setup an own openvpn server to connect the machines and now I must route the traffic from tun0 to tun1
[16:30] <seemawn> hi
[16:30] <booh> Is it possible to keep unity and have the bottom panel ?
[16:30] <sharpshooter> ubottu, it will not effect my existing shells right ?
[16:30] <frxstrem> I am in process of installing Ubuntu 11.10 on my computer, and I have about 150 GB I want to split between two partitions (one for the system and one for /home); how much space should I used for my system partition?
[16:31] <arghx> frxstrem: I'd say around 30GB
[16:31] <famgod> totex can you be more specific about the bugs?  all I know is that the 11.9 fixes the graphical corruption if you use gnome3 (gnome-shell)
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> frxstrem: 10Gb for / is plenty
[16:31] <oscalation> how come pressing ctrl-alt-f1 doesnt kick me into the shell prompt
[16:31] <FTFO> Hi installed ubuntu 11.10 32bit on asus eeepc 1005ha, after it asks me to provide passphrase for encryption and I enter passphrase, the toushpad mouse stops working it's just frozen, any help?
[16:31] <booh> I mean, at the same time, keep unity and have the bottom panel
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> frxstrem: then the same amount of space for swap as you have RAM unless you have less than 2Gb RAM , in which case use double your RAM amount
[16:32] <totex> famgod, yeah but gnome 3 still dosent work. people have problems even in other DE's like kde also. it is and failure from amd...
[16:32] <arghx> ActionParsnip: depends on things like mail. webserver and the like
[16:32] <delac> how can test gnome-shell? I did install it already, but trying to log into GNOME will just take me back to Unity desktop...
[16:32] <booh> or have the taskbar only.
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> arghx: do you have a seperate partition for / ?
[16:32] <arghx> ActionParsnip: yes. but I also run a local imap server :)
[16:33] <klipdas> thanks, when i execute "unity --reset", the problem is not exist, Is a bug of unity? i do not know how the problem happen.
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> arghx: and how used is your / partition?
[16:33] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:33] <xangua> booh: install a dock¿ dockbarx has an option to run as a panel-like thing
[16:33] <frxstrem> arghx, ActionParsnip: ok, thanks :)
[16:33] <meerkats> im about to upgrade to 11.10 via update manager, any relevant bug so far? any catastrophic update?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> arghx: mine is 3.2Gb used with a full KDE desktop and every plugin for media you can name
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> arghx: what is yours at?
[16:34] <arghx> ActionParsnip: around 20GB last I checked. I told you: imap
[16:34] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error:http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> arghx: so for a normal user (judging by the questioning), you can assume half that is ok....  yes?
[16:34] <arghx> ActionParsnip: but I agree, usually30GB is probably too high. my own experience colored it
[16:34] <bhavesh> Installed gnome dock extensions (sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-dock) but still it doesnt show up :(
[16:35] <dromar> Someone can tell me how to launch metacity on my x server from my tty ? I forgot and closed the terminal whith metacity and now i cant type/select any window on it
[16:35] <oscalation> anyone know why ctrl-alt-f1 isnt working ?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> frxstrem: for a desktop use like web browsing and junk like that, 10Gb will give you enough space for anything
[16:35] <bhavesh> oscalation, Its working for me
[16:35] <arghx> ActionParsnip: 15 GB of hard-drive space (or USB stick, memory card or external drive but see LiveCD for an alternative approach)    is what ubuntu.com says. so you're right
[16:35] <oscalation> bhavesh, im in the gui, im pressing it, nothing happens
[16:36] <booh> xangua... apt-cache search dockbar
[16:36] <booh> simdock - A fast and customizable dockbar
[16:36] <booh> wmpinboard - Window Maker dock applet resembling a miniature pinboard
[16:36] <tensorpudding> frxstrem, i suggest 20 GB
[16:36] <The_BROS> My wine dont want to install programs. How to make it work?
[16:36] <Mike98632> When I use gnome-shell, everything looks distorted, and I'm assuming it's because of a graphics driver. When I try to install the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver from the Additional Drivers program, it gives me this error: Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log. Here is the jockey.log file: http://pastebin.com/27Sb6KAj Can anyone help me solve this issue?
[16:36] <arghx> The_BROS: which program?
[16:36] <frxstrem> ActionParsnip, tensorpudding: I think I might go with 20 GB, just to be on the safe side (better to have too much space than too little, you know)
[16:36] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:37] <tensorpudding> i'm using around 10 GB right now on my desktop
[16:37] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: You probably don't remember, but I had (and still have) that when I start Thunderbird, it tells me that it is already running.  I've done things that you've counseled me to do, but the problem remains
 all the programs I installed before
[16:37] <tensorpudding> you can use a lot more than that if you install proprietary games
[16:37] <arghx> The_BROS: answer my question properly please
[16:38] <The_BROS> 1Password, Photofiltre Studio, Fast stone Image viewer
[16:38] <sburwood1> I had (and still have) a problem that when I start Thunderbird, it tells me that it is already running.  How can I fix the problem?
[16:38] <vaev> I am mounting an ext4 filesystem thru nautilus.. how do I make it mount as the current user instead of root in ubuntu? I can't create or delete stuff from its root now
 and others
[16:38] <frxstrem> The_BROS: what version of Wine are you using?
[16:38] <arghx> The_BROS: and the exact error(s) you get are what?
[16:38] <BioKey> Arghx: Okay I did what you you said
[16:38] <maulana> hai hai need some help for make my ubuntu deskto can used compiz well. any body have some ide for that
[16:39] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:39] <The_BROS> 1.3 & 1.2 - all the same
[16:39] <pdq> sgs2_usr, in tweak tool is in Shell-> button arrangement. if it has no effect make sure restart shell, alt+f2 then r
[16:40] <delac> how can test gnome-shell? I did install it already, but trying to log into GNOME will just take me back to Unity desktop...
 do u know how to fix it?
[16:40] <sburwood1> Does anyone have an idea as to how to kill a version of Thunderbird that isn't listed in the System Monitor?
[16:41] <sgs2_usr> pdq: okay, i restart the shell
 it stoped working at all versions of Ubuntu
[16:41] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:41] <almoxarife> on plain jane unity 2d I camt get the time/date to update changes, ie: won't change to 24h and add the week day, any gurus?
[16:41] <Reaper> gah! I just dual booted my lap top now my curser is jacked up lol
[16:41] <arghx> The_BROS: since you don't answer my question, I cannot
 what qwst?
[16:42] <arghx> The_BROS: what the error message is
[16:42] <karboh> I just installed ubuntu. Installation succeeds to the point where I should restart and boot into the installation, however after restart I just get a black screen with a blinking underscore.
[16:42] <The_BROS> 1st: invalid name (1Password program)
[16:42] <Reaper> yeah, ill be going back to 11.04 till the bugs are worked out lol
[16:42] <mattalexx> I have a 11.04 machine on which the stupid nvidia-settings app fubared my /etc/X11/xorg.conf . So I'm looking on another Natty machine for a fresh copy. But it's not here? How could that be? The /etc/X11 dir is here..
[16:43] <arghx> The_BROS: and what did you do to get this error message?
[16:43] <meerkats> has any of you downloaded 11.10 ISO, made your own live cd and installed from there?
[16:43] <oscalation> so wierd, i cant get ctrl-alt-f1 to work
[16:43] <The_BROS> 2nd: error lounching installer
[16:43] <karboh> I have a z68 chipset, installing to ocz vertex 3 ssd. Any known issues?
[16:43] <Reaper> I did
[16:43] <wagner> hi everbody
[16:43] <arghx> mattalexx: cause there is not xorg.conf by default.
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[16:43] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:43] <meerkats> reaper, was that an answer to my question?
[16:44] <arghx> The_BROS: you are wrong. if you didn't do anything the computer cannot show any errors either. so youz have no problem. think again
[16:44] <arghx> !repeat | arc_nit_india
[16:44] <mattalexx> arghx, What config file is X reading by default?
[16:44] <Reaper> meerkats yes. I burnt the iso to a disk and booted it that way
[16:44] <meerkats> ready,
[16:44] <arghx> mattalexx: none. it doesn't need a config file anymore
[16:44] <aintaer> Guys, ever since I upgraded to Oneiric, my colors are all screwed up
[16:44] <Reaper> installed
[16:44] <aintaer> like this: http://i.imgur.com/p7uVU.png
[16:44] <BioKey> arghx : I did "dpkg -L <jupiter package you installed> | grep bin" what I'm supposed to do now ?
[16:44] <Reaper> I think so
[16:44] <Reaper> lol
[16:44] <Pauluntu> is there a bug with empathy i try to add mibbit to the irc server list but no matter what i do it keeps deleting the server i put and automaticly putting in new server
[16:44] <oscalation> how can i boot into the shell prompt instead of using the gui?
[16:44] <karboh> I got the same error when trying to install 11.4 a while back, so I went with Fedora instead which installs without problems, but now I wanted to give Ubuntu a second chance
[16:44] <aintaer> How do I go back and change my colors?
 sorry. I get a window with error n thats it
[16:45] <CarlFK> where does "system settings, user accounts, auto login=yes" get stored?  I want a script to set that
[16:45] <Phr3d13> how do i get empaty to integrate with gnome session?
[16:45] <arghx> BioKey: what is the EXACT thing you typed as your dpkg command please
[16:45] <xangua> Pauluntu: mibbit is just a web service, not an irc server
 after that I push "close" and thats it. But before there was no any problems
[16:45] <meerkats> Reaper, did you download from http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso ?
[16:46] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I am on a HP Mini 5102 with an Intel graphic card, I am trying to have a VGA output working, but cloned screen only gives me 800x600, any help please?
[16:46] <arghx> The_BROS: you DID something to get that window
[16:46] <Reaper> meerkats 1 sec let me check
[16:46] <IRC_Boy> hello all
[16:46] <IRC_Boy> wow, floodbot
[16:46] <Pauluntu> xangua: on xchat i connect to mibbit fine by putting in the irc server irc.mibbit.net
[16:46] <chatman74> hi
[16:46] <Newbee> hello
[16:46] <Zuhaitz> And If I use xrand then screen is 1366x768 but Gnome-shell or Unity only 800x600, any help please?
 I start installing neccesery win-programm
[16:46] <cuppsy> Has anyone had issues using CCSM in Ubuntu 11.10? Everytime I start tweaking anything in CCSM, I end up losing the Unity launcher.
[16:46] <metrix> When trying to upgrade to the newest version of Ubuntu, I get the following error: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer_4.7.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb Got a single header line over 360 chars
[16:47] <pisto> hi. what's the name of the applet for power management, the one that shows the battery in the upper tray?
[16:47] <metrix> what should I do?
[16:47] <BioKey> Argx : dpkg -L Jupiter | grep bin"
[16:47] <Newbee> I have a problem, that my (k)ubuntu does not realise my monitor (pluged in on hdmi slot via hdmi-dvi adapter)
[16:47] <IRC_Boy> !help
[16:47] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:47] <Newbee> but it works with the tv via hdmi quite fine
 I did in this way before
[16:47] <Newbee> Has anybody a idea what could be the problem?
[16:47] <IRC_Boy> who is in here using Backtrack ?
[16:48] <CarlFK> arc_nit_india: you are asking a bit too often
[16:48] <xangua> Pauluntu: it does has a server¿ wel ltry xchat then, besides emathy is very limited for irc ;)
[16:48] <arghx> IRC_Boy: do you have a ubuntu related question? (not a backtrack one)
[16:48] <xangua> !backtrack | IRC_Boy
 I tried to reinstall Wine, to change distro. no effect
[16:48] <arghx> Newbee: you should check your Xorg.0.log
[16:48] <nunne> keyboard / layout in system settings says swedish.. but its still english.. anyone know what gives??? after updating to 11.10
[16:48] <jamil_1> HELP!: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiobamf.so: undefined symbol: g_desktop_app_info_launch_handler_get_type
[16:48] <arghx> The_BROS: start your installer program from a terminal and what this terminal for errors
[16:48] <Newbee> arghx: for what am i looking there?
[16:48] <Reaper> meerkats this is where I got it http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[16:49] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I am on a HP Mini 5102 with an Intel graphic card, I am trying to have a VGA output working, but cloned screen only gives me 800x600, any help please?
[16:49] <Zuhaitz> And If I use xrand then screen is 1366x768 but Gnome-shell or Unity only 800x600, any help please?
[16:49] <BioKey> arghx : not directly, no. Thx for your help.
[16:49] <arghx> Newbee: for connections to a monitor
 how to run command?
[16:49] <chatman74> I have been trying to use midi with Ubuntu 11.04 (I have just upgraded to 11.10). I have installed oss and tried to install alsa but with no success. I have got no sound at all from various programs including tuxguitar.
[16:49] <Dynamit> nunne try sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade --yes
[16:49] <arghx> The_BROS: how do you run it right now?
[16:49] <AaronDubbedge> HELP:  Is there anyone I can ask a question about Ubuntu 11.10 customizing?
[16:50] <arghx> BioKey: dpkg -l Jupiter
[16:50] <The_BROS> doubleclick to the package or click into context menu
[16:50] <arghx> !ask | AaronDubbedge
[16:50] <xangua> AaronDubbedge: there is a post on webupd8 blog about customize the new oneiric  ;)
[16:50] <arghx> The_BROS: what "package". windows has no "packages"
[16:50] <wagner> wine os fail
[16:50] <xangua> 10 stuffs to do after install oneric is called AaronDubbedge
[16:50] <nunne> Dynamit, ahh. solved it.. was pretty simple.. removed my keyboard layout and added default english.. then added Swedish again
 .exe-file
[16:50] <Phr3d13> how do i find out what shell or session version i am logged into?
[16:50] <chatman74> I have been trying to use midi with Ubuntu 11.04 (I have just upgraded to 11.10). I have installed oss and tried to install alsa but with no success. I have got no sound at all from various programs including tuxguitar.
[16:51] <metrix> When trying to upgrade to the newest version of Ubuntu, I get the following error: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer_4.7.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb Got a single header line over 360 chars
[16:51] <nunne> the old Swedish layout from 11.04 must point to a nonexisting one in 11.10 or something
[16:51] <meerkats> Reaper, I see, clear instructions there...
[16:52] <Newbee> arghx: I cannot find anything like that
 so how to run it in terminal?
[16:52] <arghx> Newbee: paste your logfile into a pastebin then
[16:52] <BioKey> arghx : how do I know the exact package name when  using "apt-get install Jupiter" ?
[16:52] <Reaper> meerkats yeah its much better there I think. they're all about the same tho, some just a bit more user friendly then others.
[16:52] <Mike9863> When I use gnome-shell, everything looks distorted, and I'm assuming it's because of a graphics driver. When I try to install the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver from the Additional Drivers program, it gives me this error: Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log. Here is the jockey.log file: http://pastebin.com/27Sb6KAj Can anyone help me solve this issue?
[16:53] <arghx> BioKey: Jupiter would be the package name then. and apt-get also tells you what packages it installs, full names, before it installs them
[16:53] <AaronDubbedge> Does anyone know how to customize the task bar in Ubuntu 11.10?
[16:53] <debsan> BioKey, aptitude cache search jupiter ?
[16:53] <arghx> debsan: that is a bad command
[16:53] <debsan> yes sory
[16:53] <BioKey> debsan : sorry I don't understand :/
[16:54] <BioKey> arghx : so it should be jupiter, but I have no results when typing "dpkg -l Jupiter"
[16:54] <meerkats> Reaper, im only doing this because updating the normal way means waiting 7 hours, just the downloading of new packages
[16:54] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:54] <debsan> aptitude search jupiter  you search for all the packages cointaining the word jupiter.
[16:54] <mattalexx> I installed one of the NVIDIA drivers but now Gnome won't start. How can I uninstall it using the command line?
[16:54] <arghx> BioKey: jupiter is NOT Jupiter. ubuntu is case sensitive. so you gotta decide: which one is it?
[16:55] <pisto> hi. what's the name of the applet for power management, the one that shows the battery in the upper tray?
[16:55] <arghx> mattalexx: dpkg -l |grep nvidia   uninstall the packages it lists
[16:55] <merl15> hi all, I have a Lenovo ThinkPad W520, running a mostly standard Natty install. I have an nvidia card and am using the nvidia binaries, and not the nouveau ones. I have an external monitor connected and, on start-up, kernel messages are displayed on the external monitor, but, try as I might, I can't get X to just display on the external monitor at all. Any help or pointers would be appreciated.
[16:55] <arghx> mattalexx: and delete your xorg.conf as well
[16:55] <karboh> Ok, all I get after installing Ubuntu is a blinking underscore and the ability to reboot by pressing ctrl-alt-delete, is there anything I can do to troubleshoot?
[16:55] <phlak_user> arc_nit_india: this is pretty obvious -> Error: libcurl is missing. Please run "make prerequisites".
[16:55] <xangua> pisto: indicator battery¿
[16:56] <Newbee> arghx: http://pastebin.com/ZLrvbeNt
[16:56] <chatman74> is there anyone who knows about midi
[16:56] <panda81> where is Synaptic Package manager in Ubuntu 11?
[16:56] <pisto> I don't have this program
[16:56] <arghx> karboh: press ctrl+alt+f2 also find out which videocard(s) you have
[16:56] <arghx> !anyone | chatman74
[16:56] <pisto> xangua, I have no indicator-battery
[16:56] <phlak_user> merl15: you need to setup the external monitors in Preferences-Monitors
[16:56] <mattalexx> arghx, Thanks!
[16:56] <arc_nit_india> phlak_user:i ran that command but it gives error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[16:57] <chatman74>  I have been trying to use midi with Ubuntu 11.04 (I have just upgraded to 11.10). I have installed oss and tried to install alsa but with no success. I have got no sound at all from various programs including tuxguitar.
[16:57] <naftilos76> hi, how can i install gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:57] <merl15> phlak_user: I'm using fluxbox but in the gnome preferences, the external one doesn't show up
[16:57] <naftilos76> is there a repo?
[16:57] <phlak_user> arc_nit_india: ok so what about this -> wineprefixcreate
[16:57] <xangua> panda81: apt-get install synaptic
[16:57] <subz3r0> naftilos76, software center -> gnome shell
[16:57] <meerkats> help please, when updating to 11.10 via a bootable usb stick, can I change the bootable usb for a regular external hard drive?
[16:57] <xangua> naftilos76: unity runs on top of gnome
[16:57] <arghx> arc_nit_india: http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/Wineprefixcreate  your scripts are outdated
[16:57] <Reaper> meerkats I dont blame ya. I like it because its faster and its better to have coppies on hand I think.
[16:57] <Dmole> meerkats:yes
[16:57] <AaronDubbedge> How do I change the looks of the bar where you click to log out?
[16:58] <phlak_user> merl15: does pressing the fn+f8 (equivalent key on your lappy) help?
[16:58] <meerkats> Reaper, Dmole, ok
[16:58] <panda81> xangua: Synaptic no longer comes shipped with Ubuntu?
[16:58] <BioKey> arghx : sorry for that, it's jupiter. "Dpkg -l jupiter" gives me : ii jupiter 0.0.51-webup Jupiter notification icon
[16:58] <AaronDubbedge> Can someone help me with Ubuntu 11.10?
[16:58] <jsebean> Hi
[16:58] <xangua> panda81: looks like
[16:58] <Raphy> I have a problem with a Xonar Essence STX sound card : I can't select headphones output. Do you know how to fix this ?
[16:58] <Dmole> AaronDubbedge: look into compiz emrald etc
[16:58] <jsebean> AaronDubbedge: what's wrong?
[16:58] <merl15> phlak_user: no, I've tried using xrandr and modifying my xorg.conf (though apparently that shouldn't be necessary anymore?)
[16:58] <karboh> arghx: thanks. No response when pressing ctrl+alt+f2.
[16:59] <merl15> phlak_user: both with which I had no luck
[16:59] <jsebean> Anyone know whats wrong with Ubuntu One?
[16:59] <karboh> integrated intel sandybridge graphics
[16:59] <phlak_user> merl15: ok
[16:59] <Guest54626> while repartitioning my hard drive, I moved and resized my old /home partition and accidentally canceled the operation. it hadn't begun moving the file system yet (thank god), but it had already resized the partition itself, and now GParted can't recognize the file system anymore
[16:59] <panda81> xangua: ah too bad. Now, where might the command prompt be now
[16:59] <jsebean> AaronDubbedge: what's wrong?
[16:59] <meerkats> jsebean, it worked for me this morning
[16:59] <magik_> do anybody knows how to make the particiones ntfs to mount with the start of linux ?
[16:59] <arghx> karboh: I asked more than that
[16:59] <g0rs> phlak_user: is it better to upgrade ubuntu from 11.04 to 11.10?
[16:59] <Guest54626> is there any way that I can recover my data?
[16:59] <arc_nit_india> arghx:what to do now?
[16:59] <xangua> panda81: Control+Alt+T
[16:59] <arghx> magik_: put them into fstab
[16:59] <jsebean> meerkats: I visited one.ubuntu.com and tried to login, got an error
[16:59] <jsebean> I also can't login Ubuntu one on my computer
[16:59] <karboh> arghx: integrated intel sandybridge graphics
[17:00] <magik_> arghx: how ?
[17:00] <arghx> arc_nit_india: to be frank: you don't know enough to accomplish your goal. you need to know a LOT more about programming/compiling/adminning linux to succeed
[17:00] <meerkats> jsebean, did you recently upgrade?
[17:00] <phlak_user> g0rs: download iso; burn it to usb using "Startup Disk Creator"; boot off it; select Upgrade after you click Install
[17:00] <phlak_user> g0rs: i upgraded 2 of my laptops this way and it worked flawlessly
[17:00] <chatman74> I am a newbie, what is !details, !gq, and !poll.
[17:00] <jsebean> meerkats: I'm running 11.10 and have all updates installed
[17:00] <chatman74> ubottu
[17:00] <douggle> is there a way to setup audio to run with multiple applications at once?
[17:00] <meerkats> PHlak_user, good to know
[17:01] <arghx> chatman74: those are ubottu factoids. ubottu prints some text in response to them. /msg ubottu details   for example
[17:01] <meerkats> jsebean, did you have this problem with 11.04?
[17:01] <arghx> douggle: yes. it's supposed to work this way by default
[17:01] <karboh> arghx: asus p8z68-v pro motherboard with integrated graphics. No separate videocard.
[17:01] <douggle> but its not.
[17:01] <g0rs> phlak_user: the distro seems okay as it is now. are there more security features in the new version?
[17:01] <panda81> xangua: wonder why no gui button for command prompt. Too different from Ubuntu8
[17:01] <phlak_user> douggle: thats the standard way with Pulse
[17:01] <magik_> arghx: how i put them to fstap :S ?
[17:01] <phlak_user> g0rs: not sure what you mean by security features
[17:01] <jsebean> meerkats: I've never used Ubuntu one until now since I'm starting some school projects and I'd like to use it for backup
[17:01] <arghx> magik_: you edit your fstab file with a text editor
[17:02] <xangua> panda81: you can search terminal in the dash and add it to the launcher
[17:02] <meerkats> jsebean, a...
[17:02] <douggle> its not running in multiple applications if i run something in wine then open another app the sound in wine goes kaput
[17:02] <g0rs> phlak_user: such as firewall , intrusion detection techniques etc
[17:02] <ArmyMan007> hey... how to i configure my panels? i can't configure them!
[17:02] <ArmyMan007> hey... how do i configure my panels? i can't configure them!
[17:02] <phlak_user> g0rs: they are all the same
[17:02] <magik_> arghx: but where i found the fstab ?
[17:02] <jsebean> meerkats: a...?
[17:02] <phlak_user> !repeat | ArmyMan007
[17:02] <frxstrem> is there any way to recover a lost ext4 file system?...
[17:02] <ArmyMan007> phlak_user: corrected a spelling error
[17:02] <genjix> can someone confirm that "gnome-terminal --hide-menubar" still shows a menubar before I make a bug-report?
[17:03] <phlak_user> ArmyMan007: ok cool
[17:03] <ArmyMan007> can anyone help me out with my panels dilema?
[17:03] <Newbee> arghx: did you find anything?
[17:03] <arc_nit_india> arghx:i got some help from ur sentence...thanks a lot man
[17:03] <panda81> xangua: I was told upgrading from 8 I'll have no slow down. But this Unity desktop is too slow for Virtualbox. The previous Ubuntu 8 desktop was fast
[17:03] <g0rs> phlak_user: the user interface seems different with the launcher on left
[17:04] <magik_> arghx: well ?
[17:04] <karboh> arghx:Ok, sounds reasonable that it's the graphics. I will try to put in a geforce video card and see what happens
[17:04] <phlak_user> g0rs: thats Unity for you
[17:04] <meerkats> jsebean, when I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 ubuntu one wouldnt work for 2 months, (I mean system-preferences-ubuntuone), I could only log in via their webpage. I have no idea what could be wrong with your installation, it could be their server is overloaded
[17:04] <g0rs> phlak_user: is oneirc the same as ubuntu natty?
[17:04] <armence> Hello all. I used to have a nice little setup in 10.04 using Xmonad+GNOME. I have upgraded to 11.10 and I would like to get back my old desktop and window managers. Can anyone help?
[17:04] <arghx> magik_: /etc/fstab.  man fstab
[17:05] <panda81> I would like to go back to a light weight desktop too
[17:05] <ArmyMan007> can anyone pm me to help me out with a panel problem?
[17:05] <Newbee> arghx: sry. got offline. Did you find something in the Xorg.0.log?
[17:05] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: what about them? post your question explicitly
[17:05] <phlak_user> g0rs: nope its 11.10
[17:06] <jsebean> meerkats: webpage wont login either... i think it's down for a bit, ill wait a while
[17:06] <g0rs> phlak_user: does 11.10 have gnome 3?
[17:06] <phlak_user> g0rs: yes
[17:06] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: can't find any configuration to my panels.. would liike to place the panels down insted of up, but can't find the configurations like I found them in Ubuntu 11.04... now using Ubuntu 11.10
[17:06] <phlak_user> merl15: did you try whats in here -> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html (tho it may be a little dated)
[17:06] <chatman74> msg ubottu  I have been trying to use midi with Ubuntu 11.04 (I have just upgraded to 11.10). I have installed oss and tried to install alsa but with no success. I have got no sound at all from various programs including tuxguitar.
[17:06] <delac> should it be possible to edit gnome-shell "Applications" menus with alacarte?
[17:07] <arghx> Newbee: line 203. you have a panel made by AUO. basically look for things like "ddc" and "EDID"
[17:07] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: its easy to edit them and pull them down. I did that sometime ago
[17:07] <DarkStar1> I need to change my irc password. How do I achieve this?
[17:07] <phlak_user> !alis
[17:07] <meerkats> DarkStar1, xchat?
[17:07] <phlak_user> oh
[17:07] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: can you be a bit more specific? I don't know how to do that
[17:07] <xangua> DarkStar1: /join #freenode ; they can help you better there ;)
[17:07] <Newbee> arghx: what does this mean? I don't understand this
[17:07] <DarkStar1> No I use colloquy
[17:07] <meerkats> DarkStar1, no idea
[17:07] <ling> jsebean, I can't access the webpage either. The Ubuntu One control panel often says 'Disconnected' aswell.
[17:07] <DarkStar1> xangua: Thanks
[17:07] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: right-clicking like a crazy fellow.. can't get it to work! :(
[17:08] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: click on the top panel , select properties , orientation : bottom instead of top
[17:08] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: right click on the top panel , select properties , orientation : bottom instead of top
[17:08] <arghx> Newbee: it means if only found your internal monitor. it's a laptop?
[17:08] <Mike9863> When I use gnome-shell, everything looks distorted, and I'm assuming it's because of a graphics driver. When I try to install the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver from the Additional Drivers program, it gives me this error: Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log. Here is the jockey.log file: http://pastebin.com/27Sb6KAj Can anyone help me solve this issue?
[17:08] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: right clicking and it doesn't work
[17:08] <Newbee> arghx: yes
[17:08] <Newbee> arghx: but it has a hdmi out, that normaly works
[17:09] <arghx> Newbee: was the hdmi plugged in when you booted?
[17:09] <virusz> there is something wrong with my installation because  i cant install another linux distro.the whole hard disk is occupied by ubuntu 11.10.please take a look at this http://pastebin.com/7PV7d7E0
[17:09] <Newbee> arghx: no. But when i booted with it it did not work, too
[17:09] <Pauluntu> thats because you told it to use the whole disk drive
[17:09] <arghx> virusz: sudo fdisk -l
[17:10] <Pauluntu> virusz: during the ubuntu install you have to manually partition your drives
[17:10] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: right clicking and it doesn't work, right clicking all over the top panel...
[17:10] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: it should work.i did that a few minutes ago.
[17:10] <hulaka> In Lubuntu 11.10 I accidently switched right-click menu (when on desktop). Now I have some OpenBox menu and can't find a way to change it back. Any Ideas?
[17:10] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: mine isn't working for some reason.. and mouse config is working fine
[17:11] <phlak_user> g0rs: ArmyMan007: you cant do that in 11.10
[17:11] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: maybe you can try resetting the panels ? delete your gnome2 configuration files and reglogin . that migh help
[17:11] <virusz> http://pastebin.com/frFMBaXR fdisk result
[17:11] <phlak_user> ArmyMan007: unless you are in gnome-classic session
[17:11] <ArmyMan007> phlak_user: why can't I do that in 11.10 in GNOME classic desktop?
[17:11] <ArmyMan007> phlak_user: which I am... g0rs: how do I do that?
[17:12] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: the configuration is in /home/loginname/~gnome2
[17:12] <virusz> i can see something not right from dmesg|tail :   23.943559] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[17:12] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: goto your home folder and select , view hidden files
[17:12] <delac> is there a easy way to edit "Applications" menus in gnome-shell?
[17:13] <g0rs> phlak_user: do you think that might solve his panel problem?
[17:14] <panda81> the default Unity desktop, can I dial it down so Ubuntu doesn't lag?
[17:14] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: just delete the entire gnome2 folder?
[17:14] <phlak_user> g0rs: nope
[17:14] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: yes, phlak_user says that it wont work .
[17:15] <Somelauw> Hi, I am not sure. Is the ubuntu server edition basically the same as ubuntu home edition without gnome or are there more differences?
[17:15] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: so... what now?
[17:15] <virusz> anything i can do to fix that
[17:15] <mattalexx> I keep reading that I can't run more than one video card. That means I can only use two of my four monitors. Tell me it's not so!
[17:15] <Somelauw> The thing is. I am too lazy to reinstall ubuntu server edition on a laptop that has already ubuntu home edition installed.
[17:15] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: not sure about the reason why right clicking on a panel doesn't do anything.  I would try resetting all settings of the panel and start again .
[17:15] <mattalexx> Is there any way around this at all?
[17:16] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: and I do that by reinsalling 11.10?
[17:16] <phlak_user> mattalexx: i dont think its true
[17:16] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: i'm on 11.04 and i can play around with the panel.
[17:16] <ArmyMan007> g0rs: well i'm on 11.10 and I can't... another reason to downgrade...
[17:17] <Newbee> arghx: do you see any possibility to make may computer see the hdmi-device
[17:17] <Newbee> ?
[17:17] <ArmyMan007> phlak_user: maybe you can help me out with the 11.10 panel problem?
[17:17] <g0rs> ArmyMan007: downgrading is probably not a good idea for this reason. You might well ask somebody else who is on 11.10
 im going back to 11.04 till the bugs are worked out.
[17:17] <virusz> arghx:have u take a look at the fdisk result?
[17:17] <delac> Is it possible to close the advertisements on Software Center, or is Ubuntu on its way to become advertisement funded?
[17:17] <ArmyMan007> Reaper: is the panel problem known to be one of the bugs?
[17:17] <phlak_user> ArmyMan007: Im on Unity mostly
[17:18] <Mike````> I am having an issue connecting to ubuntu one without using the default network manager applet, (using WICD), I remember having and working around this in the past, but I can't recall where I found the answer at.  Does anyone here happen to know what I'm talking about
[17:18] <Mike````> 11.10
[17:18] <ArmyMan007> phlak_user: hmm... moving to unity is quite a problem for me.. hate the inteface..
[17:18] <baggar11> mattalexx: I believe that xrandr doesn't support multiple video cards in it's current state. I ran into that problem as wel. I broke down and bought a card that had 3 outputs.
[17:18] <ArmyMan007> ok... downgrading it is folks..
[17:18] <phlak_user> ArmyMan007: ok
[17:19] <ArmyMan007> is there anyway to downgrade without having to make a fresh install?
[17:19] <phlak_user> Mike````: nope; what is your problem/question?
[17:19] <Yerushalmi> I just upgraded to 11.10 and would like to know: how do I prevent icons from showing up in the Unity sidebar outside of their individual workspace?
[17:19] <IsleVegan> Aloha, I have always upgraded by disk or via upgrade manager / synaptic but I wanted to minimize network traffic for the ubuntu.com folks and acquired 11.10 via bittorrent this time. I have 11.04 and tried sudo mount -t iso9660 ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso /cdrom -o loop but that doesn't help. It mounts as a volume but I'm not sure how to make it upgrade.
[17:19] <virusz>   23.943559] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[17:19] <virusz> <<this problem point to where
[17:19] <phlak_user> Yerushalmi: right click on the icon and click remove
[17:20] <Mike````> phlak_user: I just need to get ubuntu one to realize it's connected to the internet, it disagrees with me, and it won't let me sign in
[17:20] <phlak_user> Yerushalmi: or uncheck "Keep in Launcher"
[17:20] <sorin2189> Hi everyone
[17:20] <Mike````> phlak_user: needless to say I'm connected to the internet
[17:20] <mattalexx> baggar11, Do you happen to know if there is another way to get it working (even if it's another distro altogether)?
[17:20] <sorin2189> i have an issue, i just installed windows 8 on my pc to see how it is, along with my ubuntu 9.10 installation
[17:20] <phlak_user> Mike````: what makes you think Ubuntu One looks at Network Manager?
[17:20] <sorin2189> the problem is it wiped my previous bootloaders, how can i restore it ?
[17:20] <arghx> virusz: resize sda1 to make it smaller (gparted from the livecd) then you can install a 2nd linux distro
[17:20] <ArmyMan007> can anyone advice me with the best method to downgrade from 11.10 to 11.04?
[17:21] <arghx> !fixgrub | sorin2189
 I believe it is, along with others.
[17:21] <urlin2u> !grub | sorin2189
[17:21] <arghx> ArmyMan007: it cannot be done. downgrade is not possible. reinstall 11.04
[17:21] <virusz> tq arghx..how bout the other problem..what does it means?
[17:21] <Mike````> phlak_user: because I've encountered this before and it only started since I setup WICD, which is unfortunately manditory because the normal one  causes packet losses
[17:21] <baggar11> mattalexx: Edit your xorg.conf file. It'll most likely be unaccelerated though.
[17:21] <ArmyMan007> arghx: will the reinstallation delete all of my settings and programs?
[17:21] <arghx> virusz: I don't know
[17:21] <arghx> ArmyMan007: yes
[17:22] <phlak_user> Mike````: what indication do you get from Ubuntu One?
[17:22] <virusz> arghx:what i need to do now is resize my partition right?
[17:22] <ArmyMan007> arghx: damn.. well... reinstall it is... kinda messed it up anyway..
[17:22] <frxstrem> does anyone know of any tools or anything that I can use to recover a lost file system from my hard drive?
[17:22] <Yerushalmi> phlak_user: Keep in Launcher is already unchecked for icons of programs that are in a different workspace; I don't see a 'remove'.
[17:22] <ArmyMan007> untill we meet again ubuntu 11.10... stupid panel bug!
[17:22] <Mike````> phlak_user: "An internet connection is required to join or sign in to Ubuntu One"
[17:23] <meerkats> I have the ISO copy in an external hard drive with 450 GB of other data, could that data be adversely affected if I upgrade from this external hard drive?
[17:24] <virusz> arghx:can i just use partitioning system that given when installing process is begin?
[17:24] <Reaper> meerkats it shouldnt but never hurts to be safe
[17:25] <meadhikari> system slow after upgrade 11.10 please hel[
[17:25] <meadhikari> system slow after upgrade 11.10 please help
[17:25] <Yerushalmi> General question about 11.10 and Unity, therefore: Is it deliberate that alt-tabbing includes windows on other workspaces, and that the sidebar icons list windows on other workspaces? Is there any way to keep workspaces separate in that regard?
[17:25] <g0rs> He is a passive agreessive freak
[17:25] <Univoid> guys i just upgraded to 11.04 now my netbeans project c++ wont build complains about a lot unresolved references
[17:25] <manbra_linux> Hey, I put in a second video card, and ubuntu isn't seeing it.  any ideas?
[17:25] <Univoid> 11.10 lol
[17:26] <manbra_linux> I'm on 11.04, two nvidia cards
[17:26] <arghx> manbra_linux: is it showing with lspci?
[17:26] <Mike````> brb switching to xchat
[17:26] <manbra_linux> What is that, arghx
[17:26] <Somelauw> The thing is. I am too lazy to reinstall ubuntu server edition on a laptop that has already ubuntu home edition installed.
[17:26] <Aleo> hi all
[17:26] <endeavormac> i have a local mirror of the ubuntu packages for oneiric. I would like to do a release upgrade from natty to oneiric, but would like to use my local mirror. how can i do this?
[17:26] <phlak_user> Mike````: ok it seems that UbuntuOne checks with network manager first. If you dont need it (since you're using wicd), can you remove network manager?
[17:26] <Somelauw> I am not sure. Is the ubuntu server edition basically the same as ubuntu home edition without gnome or are there more differences?
[17:26] <Reaper> I gotta keep outa here and get back to work LOL
[17:26] <tntc> uh, how do I add myself to a group on 11.10? I need to drop myself into vboxusers but the new users setting jobby seems to have no option for manual group add
[17:27] <g0rs> Reaper: same here
[17:27] <phlak_user> Mike````: go down to #6 in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608034
[17:27] <Mike````> phlak_user: yeah I suppose I can, I'll be honest I'm a bit nervous about that one though because right now it's my backup for connecting, but if that's the solution, then that's all there is to it
[17:27] <Mike````> phlak_user: I see, thank you simple enough
[17:27] <phlak_user> Mike````: yw
[17:28] <De|ta> hi all. I've just updated to 11.10 from 11.04 - having trouble getting flash player to isntall properly, can anyone help me out?
[17:28] <phlak_user> De|ta: whats the proble,?
[17:28] <doornumber9> De|ta: try medibuntu
[17:29] <tntc> nevermind, I got it via the commandline with adduser
[17:29] <tarvid> unity workspace empty on upgrade, recommendations
[17:29] <De|ta> It's installed, but when I try and view any vidoes etc - it tells me that it isn't installed
[17:29] <Marine1> updated to 11.10 and now the 5.1 speaker system plays only 2 speakers
[17:29] <phlak_user> tntc: edit /etc/group from the terminal (or gksu gedit /etc/group after pressing alt+f2)
[17:29] <Marine1> Is it pulse audio or the default alsa
[17:29] <De|ta> I've tried uninstalling, reinstalling etc etc - nothing seems to work, just reports that it's not installed
[17:30] <phlak_user> De|ta: install from where?
[17:30] <magik_> arghx: can you explain me what i have to write in /etc/fstab the drivers i wanna add are /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda4 =)
[17:30] <phlak_user> Marine1: pulse
[17:30] <ArmyMan007> hey guys
[17:30] <doornumber9> De|ta: try the instructions for adding the source here: http://medibuntu.org/repository.php
[17:30] <De|ta> adobe site
[17:30] <De|ta> I'll try that now doornumber9, ta
[17:30] <ArmyMan007> I want to offer the sulotion to my panel problem
[17:30] <doornumber9> once you've got Medibuntu installed, you can sudo apt-get install non-free-codecs
[17:30] <phlak_user> ArmyMan007: go ahead
[17:31] <ArmyMan007> all you have to do is to hold ALT key along with a right click on either panel, then you get the configuration for this panel
[17:31] <phlak_user> doornumber9: he can still do that without Medibuntu
[17:31] <De|ta> It's not a codec issue afaik though?
[17:31] <magik_> arghx: well ?
[17:31] <doornumber9> true, I just think it's an easy way to solve the problem
[17:31] <tarvid> any suggestions on recovering from a hosed upgrade? networking doesn't work, workspace empty
[17:31] <jsebean> Unity in Ubuntu 11.10 Rocks!!! Just wanted to get that out there everyone
[17:31] <phlak_user> tarvid: workspace is empty by design on the Gnome3 shell
[17:32] <sorin2189> ubuntu 11.10 has gnome3 ?
[17:32] <sorin2189> no more unity ?
[17:32] <arghx> magik_: I can but I won't
[17:32] <phlak_user> sorin2189: also
[17:32] <sorin2189> so it has both ?
[17:32] <sorin2189> cool
[17:32] <arghx> sorin2189: it has unity and gnome3
[17:32] <Marine1> how d I autocomplete someone's name on x-chat
[17:32] <delac> is there a easy way to edit "Applications" menus in gnome-shell?
[17:32] <jsebean> sorin2189: Ubuntu still has unity
[17:32] <magik_> arghx: o.o ?
[17:32] <jsebean> sorin2189: unity runs on top of Gnome 3 now
[17:32] <ArmyMan007> phlak_user: arghx: check this website for more details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859455
[17:32] <Marine1> on pidgin you just type the first 2 or 3 letters then hit tab
[17:32] <sorin2189> ok, got it
[17:32] <arghx> magik_: I don't spoon feed
[17:32] <ArmyMan007> phlak_user: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859455
[17:32] <jsebean> sorin2189: So now you can run Unity as well as Gnome Shell
[17:32] <sorin2189> tnx
[17:32] <urlin2u> Marine1, the tab
[17:32] <ArmyMan007> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859455
[17:33] <tarvid> I've got the left menu but nothing appears when I click on something
[17:33] <paladinlaw> How do i remove the additional driver nvidia from live cd? i cant go into my pc normally as i get black screen
[17:33] <Marine1> urlin2u, got it
[17:33] <Pauluntu> I have world of warcraft on my externel drive so as usual i copy the folder over to my home partition on ubuntu.  If i run it directly from the folder it runs if i make a link it will run, but if i put that link on my desktop the link wont work anymore.  How do i make a desktop link to a program
[17:33] <phlak_user> ArmyMan007: thanks
[17:33] <magik_> arghx:  yea.. thanks anyway -.- ...
[17:33] <Marine1> phlak_user,  not sure of the set up now
[17:33] <ArmyMan007> phlak_user: no problem! :) bye for now
[17:33] <meadhikari> system slow after upgrade 11.10 please help
[17:34] <Marine1> phlak_user, just when I updated the sorround doesn't work on all speakers
[17:34] <meadhikari> system slow after upgrade 11.10 please help
[17:34] <meadhikari> system slow after upgrade 11.10 please help
[17:34] <jsebean> meadhikari: what you mean slow?
[17:34] <jsemar> Hey guys, I switched to 11.10 last night and now my workspace switcher only has one row (I can't go up or down) desktop size in the compiz settings manager says 2x2..
[17:34] <Pauluntu> meadhikari: quit spamming the chatroom wait for help
[17:34] <meadhikari> jsebean it takes liek a minute to load
[17:34] <jsemar> sounds silly but I liked the 2x2 grid for workspaces
[17:34] <meadhikari> sorry for spamming
[17:35] <jsebean> meadhikari: to load... to boot?
[17:35] <meadhikari> to boot
[17:35] <meadhikari> after the login screen
[17:35] <jsebean> meadhikari: a minute?
[17:35] <meadhikari> it takes like a minute or two to show the dock
[17:35] <jsebean> meadhikari: whats your system specs?
[17:35] <Pauluntu> mine takes like a min to a min 1/2 to boot also i have duel core with 4gb ram so i guess thats just the normal boot for ubuntu LOL
[17:35] <meadhikari> 4gb ram
[17:35] <Marine1> phlak_user,  just when I updated the surround doesn't work on all speaker
[17:35] <phlak_user> Marine1: can you pastebin the output of pactl list
[17:35] <Yerushalmi> General question about 11.10 and Unity, therefore: Is it deliberate that alt-tabbing includes windows on other workspaces, and that the sidebar icons list windows on other workspaces? Is there any way to keep workspaces separate in that regard?
[17:35] <arc_nit_india> arghx:i got some help from ur sentence...thanks a lot man
[17:36] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[17:36] <meadhikari> liek 2 min a normal boot
[17:36] <De|ta> doornumber9, I've added that repo.. now what, is there a version of flash in there?
[17:36] <Mike`````> phlak_user, just as a follow up, that did the trick thanks again
[17:36] <mattalexx> Does anyone here have four monitors running on two videos cards? If so, would you be willing to send me your xorg.conf?
[17:36] <meadhikari> jsebean any ways to stop some process to make boot faster?
[17:36] <Marine1> phlak_user, what is the correct command for that
[17:36] <phlak_user> Mike`````: gr8
[17:36] <doornumber9> yes there is De|ta
[17:36] <phlak_user> Marine1: pactl list
[17:37] <doornumber9> I don't know the exact version, but it seems to play everything I need
[17:37] <jsemar> mattalexx: http://xkcd.com/963/
[17:37] <jsebean> meadhikari: hmm it may be drivers, try seeing if there are any to update? Mine was sliggish until i updated my Nvidia drivers
[17:37] <doornumber9> the medibuntu site has details for exactly what's installed
[17:37] <doornumber9> I like the metapackage "non-free-codecs"
[17:37] <Eduard> guys, is it normal for 'transmission
[17:37] <meadhikari> jsebean how would i update the drivers?
[17:37] <Eduard> bittorent client to make whole pc lag like hell
[17:38] <phlak_user> !pactl
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> Eduard: try deluge
[17:38] <sorin2189> !pactl
[17:38] <Pauluntu> phlak_user: i tried to pactl list so i could see if you can figure out what makes my system take a while to boot but the list is longer than what the terminal will allow LOL
[17:38] <jsebean> meadhikari: I used Additional Drivers and went through them to find one that worked for me. I have nVidia. You could also logout, click the little gear and choose Ubuntu 2D, that may be faster for ya
[17:38] <mattalexx> jsebean, Yes, I've seen that. xorg.conf usually takes a weekend to fgigure out
[17:38] <majed> any one here is fan of one piece?
[17:38] <meadhikari> jsebean i am using unity 2D
[17:39] <phlak_user> Pauluntu: you can redirect it to a file or pipe it to less (pactl list|less)
[17:39] <meadhikari> but its the same
[17:39] <Eduard> MonkeyDust, i know about deluge, i'm not using it only because i don't know how to make it download only some parts of whole torrent without downloading unchecked trash
[17:39] <Pauluntu> phlak_user: how do i redirect to file
[17:39] <jsebean> meadhikari: hmm then I'm not sure.... anyone else got ideas? You got a lot of startup apps?
[17:39] <phlak_user> Pauluntu: pactl list > output.txt
[17:39] <HoNgOuRu> My screen goes black when deleting the las character of any field, chrome urls, banshee search field, amule search field, no matter what, if I delete the last character then everything goes black of almost 90% opacity...any help ? I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and Im using an nvidia 8800 gtx graphics card with the "recommended" drivers
[17:39] <Eduard> it sucks as hell, to clean up you download, for eg, when you download a part of discography of some band
[17:39] <meadhikari> jsebean no not a single app
[17:40] <IsleVegan> Aloha, I have always upgraded by disk or via upgrade manager / synaptic but I wanted to minimize network traffic for the ubuntu.com folks and acquired 11.10 via bittorrent this time. I have 11.04 and tried sudo mount -t iso9660 ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso /cdrom -o loop but that doesn't help. It mounts as a volume but I'm not sure how to make it upgrade.
[17:40] <blotek> Eduard, it sucks as hell u mean ubuntu :P ?
[17:40] <majed> gomo gomonooooooooo
[17:40] <george_> heeey ubuntuers
[17:40] <jsebean> hmmm anyway gotta bail everyone have to head out to town
[17:40] <meadhikari> jsebean and also the shut down is slow too, it changes screen colour and shut down after more that 2 minutes
[17:40] <jsebean> meadhikari: I have to head out, maybe someone else may know something
[17:40] <phlak_user> IsleVegan: you need to burn the iso to cd/dvd/usb
[17:40] <Eduard> blotek: deluge bittorent client, if you dl only a part of torrent, it still keeps downloading some random trash from unchecked part
[17:41] <Gargoylle> Hi all. I updated to 11.10 today. it screwed my system. I had gnome all setup. Now I only have unity. I hate it with a passion. sudo apt-get install gnome gave me a partially working gnome session. how can I fix it and remove unity from my system. an upgrade is not supposed to discard all previous settings like this.
[17:41] <meadhikari> jsebean thanks for your time
[17:41] <phiscibe> JOY to all you brave updaters in userspace, may your address space be blessed
[17:41] <Pauluntu> phlak_user: http://pastebin.com/ecpmHj04
[17:41] <blotek> Eduard, it probably downloading hashes and info for upload
[17:41] <blotek> not data itself
[17:41] <mitko> join ljudmila
[17:41] <george_> hey i saw in sources.list that backports was enabled by default, is it safe?
[17:41] <dimitri> after upgrade to 11.10 my printer don't run. someone help me please :-(
[17:41] <HoNgOuRu> meadhikari, I believe you have a problem with the power config, you have to edit the grub entry to load acpi or something like that. I used to have that same problem
[17:42] <phiscibe> probably as safe as a dist upgrade hehe
[17:42] <Gargoylle> Does anyone know how to cleanly remove unity and get a proper gnome session? otherwise I'll need to format and reinstall. while at it, I may try mint.
[17:42] <HoNgOuRu> My screen goes black when deleting the las character of any field, chrome urls, banshee search field, amule search field, no matter what, if I delete the last character then everything goes black of almost 90% opacity...any help ? I upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and Im using an nvidia 8800 gtx graphics card with the "recommended" drivers
 I had the same problem, I installed xubuntu-desktop package and switched to xfce
[17:42] <dimitri> i have a canon lbp5100 and i try to installa the capt in ubuntu 11.10 but i have ccp prob (i think)
[17:42] <meadhikari> HoNgOuRu can you please so me a direction on solving it
[17:42] <Eduard> blotek, nah, try downloading an discography of some band, check only some content from torrent for download, then import the downloaded folder in banshee. It will import some songs from unchecked albums, because they got fully downloaded
[17:42] <HoNgOuRu> let me try...
[17:43] <HoNgOuRu> to find
[17:43] <Eduard> somehow...
[17:43] <blotek> Gargoylle, the best way to uninstall Unity is to remove ubuntu
[17:43] <HoNgOuRu> anything
[17:43] <mitko> go debian :-)
 thank you. gnome was working fine for me. I'll revert to 10.10 or convert to mint.
[17:43] <phlak_user> Pauluntu: are you the same as Marine1?
[17:43] <blotek> go arch ;P
[17:43] <blotek> or if u need gnome 2.x then go debian
[17:44] <Somelauw> I am not sure. Is the ubuntu server edition basically the same as ubuntu home edition without gnome or are there more differences?
[17:44] <NeedSomeHelp_> hello, anyone here know php and rss/xml ?
[17:44] <Pauluntu> phlak_user: no LOL i'm not marinel but i have a simular problem ubuntu takes like 1 to 2 minutes to boot
[17:44] <Gargoylle> why so much insistence on unity I do not understand. it does not work for me. why the interface lockdown? so much like windows.
[17:44] <aintaer> If I am okay with Gnome 3 but have problems not being able to change colors, what can I do?
[17:44] <phlak_user> Pauluntu: oh ok; i thought you were the one with 5.1 ch surround card issues
[17:44] <Marine1> phlak_user, i'm still here
[17:45] <phlak_user> Marine1:  can you pastebin the output of pactl info ? seems to me that you dont have 5.1 as default sink
[17:45] <Marine1> phlak_user, http://pastebin.com/ph30tqRA
[17:45] <Pauluntu> phlak_user: no I use HDMI audio
[17:45] <Gargoylle> gnome2 is just fine.
[17:45] <blotek> Gargoylle, yep Ubuntu changed in a rly bad way ;P
[17:45] <IsleVegan> phlak_user Do you mean there is no way to upgrade an existing 11.04 system from an iso file on the same system without creating a bootable disc or usb device from the iso? I have read online that others have done what I'd like to do and was hoping I could do the same rather than create additional network traffic from the network upgrade.
[17:45] <aintaer> Because Shuttleworth decided this is the way to go
[17:45] <magik_> do anybody knows how can i make the computer to mount particiones with the start up ?
[17:45] <phlak_user> Marine1: because of this -> Active Profile: output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo
 I totally agree.
[17:46] <Marine1> phlak_user, what now
[17:46] <PunkUnity> ?join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:46] <JZApples> In Ubuntu 11.04 when I do a Unity search for Simple Backup I get "Simple Backup - Configuration" and "Simple Backup - Restoration" but they're duplicated.  The first set is configured and when I open the second one its not.  How do I remove the second one?  It appears as if the application is only installed once.
[17:46] <HoNgOuRu> meadhikari,
[17:46] <phlak_user> Marine1: can you paste output of pactl info please
[17:46] <Marine1> phlak_user, I did see paste bin post
[17:46] <Gargoylle> so what if shuttleworth decided so.. why the active effort to get everything else to stop working?
[17:46] <Marine1> phlak_user, http://pastebin.com/ph30tqRA
[17:46] <blotek> only good way is to stay on debian for gnome 2.x or get xfce cuz unity s...totally and gnome 3 need a lot of time to be really finished ;)
[17:47] <aintaer> Gnome 3 is almost usable, Unity is not
[17:47] <Marine1> phlak_user, did I paste i correctly
[17:47] <LynxLite> guys
[17:47] <LynxLite> I need help
[17:47] <delac> is there a easy way to edit "Applications" menus in gnome-shell?
[17:47] <Pauluntu> i'm using unity haven't seen many problems
[17:47] <HoNgOuRu> meadhikari, edit the grub entry, at grub prompt press the "e" key I think, and then add this  to the end without quotes... "acpi=off" then try again to logout or restart ...if that fixes your issue consider editing the menu.lst file
[17:47] <phlak_user> Marine1: that was for pactl list; im asking for pactl info now :)
[17:47] <PastulioLive> magik_, I think you need to edit /etc/fstab, not sure though
[17:47] <blotek> aintaer, i was working on gnome 3 for long time actually - just after f15 release
[17:47] <LynxLite> When I try to run a game in Steam I can still see the top of my bar with the time?
[17:47] <blotek> and no it's not usable
[17:47] <Marine1> phlak_user, O.K.
[17:47] <LynxLite> How do I make my games fullscreen?
[17:47] <aintaer> blotek: I said almost :D
[17:47] <blotek> it's totally user *not friendly
[17:47] <phiscibe> i think the back system has a new back end, so maybe it is why u have two
[17:48] <magik_> PastulioLive: i know but i dont know what to write =) ..
[17:48] <afief> My computer froze during upgrade, and now I'm unable to login. Help!
[17:48] <Gargoylle> hey I am not a univ kid anymore, I have a limited amount of free time and i dont want to use that to try and get my system fixed and working.
[17:48] <mabrowning> how would I get the sound menu in Gnome Classic? indicator-sound seems to be only for Unity
[17:48] <Marine1> phlak_user, it says invlaid command
[17:48] <phlak_user> HoNgOuRu: that is now different since grub2; you need to edit /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub2
[17:48] <LynxLite> how do I make my Ubuntu bar not show up when playing a game on steam?
[17:48] <aintaer> Gargoylle: this is what drove me to try Arch instead of ubuntu
[17:48] <blotek> arch pwnass;)
[17:48] <phlak_user> Marine1: pactl info ?
[17:48] <HoNgOuRu> PHLAK, I didn't know that
[17:48] <meadhikari> HoNgOuRu thanks for your time will try that
[17:48] <Marine1> phlak_user, is it something different
[17:49] <Yerushalmi> General question about 11.10 and Unity, therefore: Is it deliberate that alt-tabbing includes windows on other workspaces, and that the sidebar icons list windows on other workspaces? Is there any way to keep workspaces separate in that regard?
[17:49] <blotek> but u kinda need 1 day to configurate arch ;P
[17:49] <blotek> full day
[17:49] <aintaer> Yerushalmi: yes
[17:49] <phlak_user> Marine1: the argument in front of pactl is
[17:49] <aintaer> It is deliberate
[17:49] <HoNgOuRu> PHLAK, my screen goes black everytime I delete the last character typed, also here using xchat...
[17:49] <panda81> I installed Gnome. How do I switch to it from Unity?
[17:49] <Marine1> phlak_user, I got it one second while i paste it
[17:49] <aintaer> the reasoning is that users mentally switch Tasks instead of Applications
[17:49] <blotek> panda81, logout and choose gnome session at Gdm
[17:49] <jgcampbell300> I need some help, I have installed Ubuntu Server 11.04 on 3 computers and right off the bat i can not ping any external networks or receive updates
[17:49] <phlak_user> panda81: at the time of logging in; press the "sprocket" icon and select from that list
[17:49] <HoNgOuRu> phlak_user,  my screen goes black everytime I delete the last character typed, also here using xchat...
[17:49] <PunkUnity> when upi login panda81 there si an option gear looking thing you press
[17:50] <blotek> ohh well there's no gdm anymore in ubuntu right ?
[17:50] <Yerushalmi> aintaer: Any way to change it? I liked it a lot better in GNOME when each workspace was its own thing, but I like the design of Unity itself.
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[17:50] <phlak_user> HoNgOuRu: no idea mate
[17:50] <CodeWar> how do I associate keyboard shortcuts for workspace switching in Unity 3D Ubuntu 11.10
[17:50] <PastulioLive> magik_, <device> <mount_location> <filesystem> defaults 0 0
[17:50]  * Bahart sal all
[17:50] <aintaer> Yerushalmi: I gave up changing it.
[17:50] <panda81> blotk: Thanks. Is that the same for any arbitrary desktop manager?
[17:50] <Marine1> phlak_user, here it is: http://pastebin.com/E1tY9ytc
[17:50] <HoNgOuRu> phlak_user, ok, it has to be something related to unity or compiz...
[17:50] <PastulioLive> so for example: /dev/hda /media/ntfs ntfs defaults 0 0
[17:50] <phlak_user> CodeWar: dash home-type keyboard
[17:51] <aintaer> one of these days I will back up this hard drive and switch entirely to arch
[17:51] <PastulioLive> magik_, after that you should "sudo mount -a"
[17:51] <phlak_user> Marine1: so you may need to change this -> Default Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_00_10.1.analog-stereo
[17:51] <rera> hi
[17:51] <CodeWar> phlak_user, I didn't get that what is the app name again?
[17:51] <rera> how can i run "x"
[17:51] <Marine1> phlak_user, it also says this in pactl info: Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
[17:51] <CodeWar> I m so lost in Unity .. where is the good old classification of System -> Settings
[17:52] <IsleVegan> phlak_user thanks for helping folks here, have a pleasant day.
[17:52] <armence> Hey all. Anyone running xmonad on oneiric ocelot? Specifically, gnome classic+xmonad? I'm failing to set that up...
[17:52] <JZApples> CodeWar, check the power button.
[17:52] <mabrowning> nevermind, I guess I'll just try Unity...
[17:52] <Marine1> phlak_user, it is 5.1 not 2ch
[17:52] <Gargoylle> does ubuntu have a gnome2 setup? sudo apt-get gnome got me gnome3. sudo apt-get gnome2 says package unknown.
[17:52] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[17:53] <Marine1> phlak_user, thanks how do I change the default sink to that output?
[17:53] <guest-51M6NB> hi everyone!
[17:53] <JZApples> CodeWar, check the power button.
[17:53] <JZApples> In Ubuntu 11.04 when I do a Unity search for Simple Backup I get "Simple Backup - Configuration" and "Simple Backup - Restoration" but they're duplicated.  The first set is configured and when I open the second one its not.  How do I remove the second one?  It appears as if the application is only installed once.
[17:53] <Leeds27m> anyone know how I can find out what I need to do to run something in wine...if it fails I mean...
[17:53] <Gargoylle> I am never going to upgrade again.
[17:53] <CodeWar> JZApples, yes I found system settings there thanks .. though its such an unlikely place .. for the life of me I can't get why people like Unity
[17:54] <aintaer> Gargoylle: yes.
[17:54] <CodeWar> we had something great going with Gnome2 and Ubuntu why on earth do folks have to ruin that
[17:54] <aintaer> at least not along Ubuntu's lines
[17:54] <aintaer> The pick between Gnome 3 and Unity is one of bad or worse
[17:54] <chatman74> I have been trying to use midi with Ubuntu 11.04 (I have just upgraded to 11.10). I have installed oss and tried to install alsa but with no success. I have got no sound at all from various programs including tuxguitar.
[17:54] <JZApples> CodeWar, give it a few days, I had the same feeling but quickly got used to it.
[17:54] <phlak_user> Marine1: can you install pavucontrol by sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[17:55] <Marine1> phlak_user, In what file would that be
[17:55] <guest-51M6NB> i am sorry i upgraded
[17:55] <jgcampbell300> i wonder why i am getting port scanned from 213.232.93.5
[17:55] <CodeWar> Desktops ARE NOT tablets or phones .. they don't need the same UI
[17:55] <blotek> trust me good configurated xfce4 reminds me gnome 2 ;)
[17:55] <JZApples> CodeWar, yeah I'm a little uneasy about how they're moving away from the pack.  Doesn't make much sense to me.
[17:55] <blotek> it feels like gnome ;p
[17:55] <Cyb3rAssasin> I'm assuming you're talking about Unity?
[17:55] <Pauluntu> phlak_user, any idea as to why my system takes forever to boot/shutdown.
[17:55] <guest-51M6NB> is there any way to roll back an update?
[17:55] <Marine1> phlak_user, I'll do that now. That was one of my options but I never did it. I looked at alsamixer and changed the settings on there
[17:55] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[17:56] <pdq> can also add awn+dockbarx to either gnome-shell or unity for increased useabilty
[17:56] <phlak_user> Marine1: once you install that ; it will let you set the default sink to 5.1 surround (though you could do it from command line, this is easier)
[17:56] <CodeWar> JZApples, I would goto Fedora but looks like they ve gone nuts too .. Gnome 3
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[17:56] <De|ta> doornumber9, got it sorted - used 'flash-aid'
[17:56] <Somelauw> Is ubuntu server basically ubuntu without gnome?
[17:56] <phlak_user> Pauluntu: nope
[17:57] <Aleo> CodeWar, you can install gnome anyway, I like Gnome too, and the only thing I don't like on Unity is that I can not change the icons size on the dock bar
[17:57] <JZApples> CodeWar, Gnome 3 looks awesome.  Seems like the same as Unity.
[17:57] <ashok_shetty> i downloaded ubuntu 11.10 and saved it in usb drive now i want to insatll tempararly please help me any one
[17:57] <Efrin> somelauw  - yes
[17:57] <aintaer> Maybe they shouldn't put these into a mainstream distribution until they're more fully baked, yeah?
[17:57] <Gargoylle> just before my upgrade, my system was booting in under 15seconds. now it takes forever. :(
[17:57] <blotek> i still prefer anything over kde;p
[17:57] <CodeWar> Aleo, on 11.10 I can install Gnome and compiz you mean? what package is that
[17:57] <blotek> even pure X11 is better than kde;p
[17:57] <Efrin> Somelauw: it has no desktop environments ;)
[17:57] <Pauluntu> phlak_user, I guess thats just how it is then I like it but its defiently no Arch Linux :P heck with Arch my system booted in 10 seconds
[17:57] <Cyb3rAssasin> Gnome 3 blows, Unity is so much better.
[17:58] <Cyb3rAssasin> Gnome is going in the direction of windows 8
[17:58] <Cyb3rAssasin> and it sucks.
[17:58] <aintaer> and I don't understand the relationship between Clutter and Compiz and oh god
[17:58] <guest-51M6NB> in 11.10, when i create a new user, it shows the account is disabled
[17:58] <Aleo> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:58] <Gargoylle> why why why would someone setup the upgrade scrypt to remove already installed gnome on upgrade? I cant get my head around it.
[17:58] <guest-51M6NB> how do i enable it? lol
[17:58] <Aleo> check that
[17:58] <maverix> quick question. any way to change the lock screen to look like the login screen?
[17:58] <ashok_shetty> how to install ubuntu 11.10 thru usb
[17:58] <CodeWar> the Unity 3D desktop ... Alt-TAB shows all apps on all workspaces
[17:58]  * CodeWar tears his hair out
[17:58] <guest-51M6NB> ashok_shetty, its right on their website
[17:59] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[17:59] <Marine1> phlak_user, it had 5.1 already on the hardware config
[17:59] <aintaer> Cyb3rAssasin: have you tried using something in Unity only to have Unity steal the menu bar and NOT display it in the "global menubar"?
[17:59] <Aleo> CodeWar, I installed via software manager, but check this site: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:59] <aintaer> Yeah
[17:59] <aintaer> I'm pretty sure this is Worse.
[17:59] <guest-51M6NB> i never seem to get answers in this room
[18:00] <Daekdroom> Is there a GUI in Oneiric to change user groups?
[18:00] <maverix> yea kinda jumbled
[18:00] <CodeWar> Aleo,  JZApples I m sure I can fix it but I don't get why the defaults for UI are so crazy .. who in the community is driving these nutty changes
[18:00] <aintaer> and somebody look into freeciv, the gtk client now takes up 100% CPU
[18:00] <blotek> guest-51M6NB, cuz it's windows like distro chat what u expect lol ?
[18:00] <TheCowboy> Does Ubuntu 11.10 uninstall Terminal Client for remode desktop connections? I don't see it installed anymore.
[18:00] <Aleo> CodeWar, yeah, at first is is difficult to get used
[18:00] <Marine1> phlak_user, I'm in the gui what exactly I'm I looking for
[18:00] <misha__> hey, there is any channel here that I can get help with networks and dns?
[18:00] <Wilczek> How to install GNOME2 in Oneiric Ocelot?
[18:00] <Cyb3rAssasin> aintaer, thats never happened to me
[18:01] <Bert-> Hi
[18:01] <aintaer> Happens to me all the time. A poor design decision in my eyes
[18:01] <ashok_shetty> guest-51M6NB: my usb is not booting
[18:01] <delac> Is it possible to close the advertisements on Software Center, or is Ubuntu on its way to become advertisement funded?
[18:01] <blotek> there are advertisement in software center :P ?
[18:01] <blotek> :O ?
[18:01] <Marine1> phlak_user, there are 5 tabs: playback,recording,output devices,input devices and config?
[18:01] <goodmami> Requesting help: just installed oneiric on my laptop and desktop. No problems on the former, but my desktop does not seem to load unity (all I get after logging in is a background picture from my Pictures directory, and nothing else)
[18:02] <phlak_user> Marine1: should be config
[18:02] <Pauluntu> I have world of warcraft on my externel drive so as usual i copy the folder over to my home partition on ubuntu.  If i run it directly from the folder it runs if i make a link it will run, but if i put that link on my desktop the link wont work anymore.  How do i make a desktop link to a program
[18:02] <blotek> what a distro OMG
[18:02] <Gargoylle> well yeah. ubuntu goes down the drain. unity is just like the cheap crap kids get when 3years old. I refuse to be manhandled like that. I want my old system back.
[18:02] <Barridus> is there an option somewhere to allow the launcher to pop up when you move the mouse to the left edge without minimizing everything??
[18:02] <PastulioLive> blotek, the software center is also used for commercial purposes
[18:02] <Marine1> phlak_user, in the config the high def audio controller shows digital surround 5.1 (hdmi) output
[18:03] <Meshezabeel> just wanted to clarify, is unity running on top of gnome, or has unity replaced gnome?
[18:03] <Barridus> nm it apparently works now (it didn't before, i swear XD)
[18:03] <phlak_user> Marine1: are there other options?
[18:03] <dispi> hello, does anyone know why my laptop sound only comes out of the speakers and not from the jack output, using lenovo thinkpad r61i alsa info http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6241afac06bea3182425e8a60540c27e5e15123a and on the
[18:03] <blotek> PastulioLive, linux wasnt supposed to be commercial for desktop users - never
[18:03] <Marine1> phlak_user, the internal audio shows analog stereo duplex
[18:03] <delac> blotek: yes, it seems to ba a ad for game named Braid. I'm not sure if it's commercial add, or just preview for newest addition.
[18:03] <blotek> PastulioLive, when Cannonical gonna make ubuntu pay to play lol ?
[18:03] <dlbike76> I don't get why so many people are upset with Unity.  It is very similar to gnome3-shell and gnome3 is the direction that other distros are going.
[18:03] <dispi> hardware analog stereo duplex output connector shows only analog speakers
[18:04] <goodmami> I installed over /, but left /home from 11.04 intact. I'm concerned my config files are conflicting. Any ideas why I don't get any GUI?
[18:04] <Somelauw> Can I test running ubuntu as a server. So that I start it and it doesn't start gnome?
[18:04] <pdq> i for one am glad gnome2 and gnome-panel is gone, unity is good, the unity launcher needs work, but gnome-shell is totally useable, i don't understand why people upgrade from 10.10 if they want to keep the win95 style panels :)
[18:04] <PastulioLive> blotek, I have mixed feelings about it, but ubuntu is a pretty commercial distro, and for operating systems to grow and gain more market share it could be a necessity
[18:04] <Gargoylle> anyone know how to copy all of the network connection passwords in the system to a txt file? I need the passwds before a format & reinstall.
[18:04] <Marine1> phlak_user, output/input devices
[18:04] <PastulioLive> blotek, I myself agree with free software, but this blocks software vendors from acknogledging the platform, because it is of no commercial intrest
[18:05] <blotek> PastulioLive, ye in my opinion ubuntu is becoming cheap-mac-like-os
[18:05] <phlak_user> Marine1: you can play with the settings till you get 5.1 ch sound (i dont have it and cant test :))
[18:05] <PastulioLive> blotek, take photoshop for instance... if that could come to linux, it would be awesome, even though I'm sure it won't happen
[18:05] <Aleo> blotek, much better than the mac
[18:05] <Marine1> phlak_user,  i'll try
[18:05] <PastulioLive> blotek, you are not forced to use ubuntu, you can use other distro's like debian
[18:05] <phlak_user> PastulioLive: blotek pl take this to offtopic
[18:05] <Aleo> but it as some things similar
[18:05] <blotek> Aleo, no with Unity and stuff it's not better;)
[18:05] <phlak_user> !offtopic
[18:05] <PastulioLive> phlak_user, ok thx
[18:06] <Marine1> phlak_user,  what about the sink control is that controlled by this app?
[18:06] <Aleo> blotek, is better because it is linux, you have all free
[18:06] <Aleo> :)
[18:06] <phlak_user> Marine1: the logic is that you need to have default sink to 5.1 channel
[18:06] <k013> hi, when u upgrade to a new distribution and the system does not connect to the internet,what should i do?
[18:06] <edwardthefma> hey all
[18:06] <aintaer> On-topic: http://i.imgur.com/p7uVU.png How do I fix this?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> blotek: free also means: free to not use it if you don't like it and choose something else
[18:07] <Gargoylle> I am against having to live by some other guys aesthetic decisions. I want to easily setup my system like I want. a simple right click like the old days will do nicely thank you. I refuse to be manhandled like gnome3 and unity do. what part of this does anyone not understand?
[18:07] <phlak_user> k013: change theme?
[18:07] <arghx> k013: you tell us how you connected before. and I don't mean the brand of your router or isp
[18:07] <PastulioLive> is there a way to hide specific users fromt he lightDM login screen?
[18:07] <aintaer> Gargoylle: try Arch
[18:07] <Cyb3rAssasin> Gargoylle, thats like saying you'll use win95 forever because you hate windows 7
[18:07] <Gargoylle> I am not a kid nor a nanny. I do work on my machine. and set it up so that the work flows.
[18:07] <PastulioLive> I've found a way to hide all users, but I want to hide just one or two
[18:07] <phlak_user> k013: oops that was for aintaer
[18:08] <blotek> MonkeyDust, ye and im not using it im just curious what's up with the 11.10 cuz it was released now isnt it ?
[18:08] <Pauluntu> I have world of warcraft on my externel drive so as usual i copy the folder over to my home partition on ubuntu.  If i run it directly from the folder it runs if i make a link it will run, but if i put that link on my desktop the link wont work anymore.  How do i make a desktop link to a program
[18:08] <De|ta> ok, so flash is sorted. Other new problem since going 11.04 to 11.10 - my network connection keeps hanging, causes sites to not load for around 10 seconds, and causes lag on terminal to my other box. any ideas?
[18:08] <aintaer> phlak_user: Doesn't help changing themes. I've tried that.
[18:08] <blotek> MonkeyDust, maybe im gonna even install it in VM to checkout those AD's in software center;p
[18:08] <Meshezabeel> dlbike76: who's upset with Unity?
[18:08] <k013> ok, i was running 11.04 over the last 4 hours the system upgraded to 11.10, now its not connecting to the internet?
[18:08] <aintaer> The themes simply change the windows
[18:08] <Marine1> phlak_user, i shows it in volume control now no sound is coming out of my speakers
[18:08] <aintaer> The text/backgrounds remain the same
[18:08] <Pauluntu> Gargoylle, use Arch Linux its nice and you set it up exactly the way you want, other than that I see no reason to come to Ubuntu room complaining, if you dont like it there are 100s of other distros to use
[18:09] <soehendro> hello
[18:09] <phlak_user> Marine1: did you change the output device to something else?
[18:09] <arghx> folks: please stop the OT
[18:09] <Aleo> ahhahah, NOW what is missing is the internet explorer for ubuntu and the Safari
[18:09] <aintaer> Overriding the color with a .gtkrc file works, but I want to find the root cause of it
[18:09] <Aleo> :)
[18:09] <Meshezabeel> dlbike76: just reading this page and see a lot of people interested in Unity: http://lunduke.com/?p=1985
[18:09] <edwardthefma> wich  distro of ubuntu is best for 3.19 GHz pent processcer and 1 gigabyte of ram
[18:09] <phlak_user> aintaer: ok
[18:09] <PastulioLive> Does anybody know how to hide/show specific users on the lightDM login manager. I have not managed to find good documentation. I have managed to hide all users by editing /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[18:09] <Gargoylle> I use windows7 bu tjust without the interface crap. people think it is winxp. but the insides is modern. and that is the reason I upgraded to 11.10. to get the insides modern. not the crap on the surface. unfortunately, it also removed my gnome2 setup.
[18:09] <phlak_user> !best | edwardthefma
[18:09] <arghx> edwardthefma: xubuntu or lubuntu imho
[18:10] <Marine1> phlak_user, I must have did somwething prior to that becuase I had the same problem before but it fixed itself
[18:10] <arghx> edwardthefma: the limiting factor is your RAM
[18:10] <leifw> I am trying to install zsnes:i386 on a 64-bit oneiric install. software center tells me "if you install zsnes:i386, future updates will not include new items...". what does this mean, and is there away around it?
[18:10] <aintaer> leifw: is there not a 64 bit build?
[18:10] <leifw> there is not
[18:10] <aintaer> i.e. one that doesn't have :i386 after the name
[18:10] <aintaer> Hmm
[18:11] <leifw> aintaer, it's got some 32-bit specific assembly iirc
[18:11] <aintaer> yuck.
[18:11] <leifw> but what does that message mean?
[18:11] <chatman74> arghx is Ubuntu Users mailing list the same as ubuntu-user-community@googlegroups.com
[18:11] <PastulioLive> by the why, why is 32-bit the "recommended" version for ubuntu?
[18:11] <leifw> yeah I know but it's the best one out there, by far
[18:11] <BenXYZ> What's the quickest way you guys have found to bring up a Banshee window? I'm looking for a keyboard shortut or something. Tell me you don't all just click the sound icon etc.
 i was wanting to get a good idea of waht will work good in this computer
[18:11] <leifw> PastulioLive, probably because of unclear messages like this
[18:11] <Somelauw> Are there any terminal emulators that support the following feature when pressing Alt+1: If there is a first tab open, then goto first tab, otherwise pass alt+1 to the application?
[18:11] <aintaer> Probably that it's unsupported?
 I'd like to stick to a distro. I really liked the way ubuntu was turning. and i like the community. but comeon. the answer should not be to go to another distro. it should be as simple as a sudo apt-get gnome2. please somebody tell me this can be done.
[18:11] <k013> @arghx - ok, i was running 11.04 over the last 4 hours the system upgraded to 11.10, now its not connecting to the internet?
[18:11] <mitko> @join #ljudmila
[18:11] <mitko> ups
[18:12] <Cyb3rAssasin> Gargoylle, what are you going to do when Gnome2 stops being supported?
[18:12] <PastulioLive> leifw, just strange, I would always recommend 64 bit, you can always run applications in 32-bit mode, no?
[18:12] <BenXYZ> k013: Dude, you're better off backing up the stuff you have
[18:12] <arghx> k013: answer my question
[18:12] <BenXYZ> k013: and installing fresh from CD. The upgrade totally borked by laptop earlier today
[18:12] <Marine1> phlak_user, when I launch movie player or banshee it loads the music file but does not play it. It freezes
[18:12] <arghx> k013: ignore BenXYZ. he's giving bad advice
[18:13] <leifw> PastulioLive, you used to be able to install 32-bit libs as separate packages, now it looks like they're doing some kind of i386 namespacing deal
[18:13] <arghx> BenXYZ: please don't tell people such things out of the blue
[18:13] <PastulioLive> Ah ok, cool. I'm fairly new myself
[18:13] <armence> Gargoylle, Just open the software manager and install gnome
[18:13] <phlak_user> Marine1: you can play with pavucontrol while the media is playing/freezing till you get the desired results
[18:13] <BenXYZ> arghx: It's not like I didn't attempt the upgrade first
[18:13] <PastulioLive> worst case I'd install a vm with 32 bit ubuntu, lol
[18:13] <Pauluntu> Gargoylle, problem is eventually gnome2 will phase out gotta learn to move with times even if its not exactly what you desire.  I'm having to get used to this setup as well I'm a big Arch user and gnome3/unity is hard for me LOL i'm used to my desktop e17
[18:13] <leifw> but it seems not to work right so that's kind of a dumb move unless I'm just not seeing the right way to do it
[18:13] <soehendro> what is the best download manager for ubuntu 11.10?
[18:13] <phlak_user> soehendro: wget
[18:14] <phlak_user> !best | soehendro
[18:14] <leifw> but does anyone understand this "future updates will not include <...>" message? does it mean it's going to uninstall these packages or just that it can't upgrade them in the future, and in that case, why can't it and what can I do?
[18:14] <PastulioLive> I'm not a developer so I wouldn't really know. They probably have their reasons
[18:14] <dlbike76> Meshezabeel:  I just keep hearing people talking about changing distros because of Unity, but I personally like it.  Unity is definitely stablized in 11.10.
[18:14] <Cyb3rAssasin> dlbike76, I agree
 it is still supported. when not, I'll move to another interface. things would have matured for the better then.
[18:14] <BenXYZ> k013: Good luck. If you're using the upgrade route, backup anything you care about on the PC first.
[18:14] <Marine1> phlak_user,  i closed out firefox and it started to play
[18:14] <phlak_user> Marine1: :)
[18:14] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[18:15] <phlak_user> !repeat| arc_nit_india
[18:15] <PastulioLive> hrm, that is quite annoying indeed. But it would be strange for a 64 bit machine to not support 32 bit. I'm sure they'll get it settled
[18:15] <Cyb3rAssasin> Gargoylle, yes it is still supported. Eventually it won't be.
[18:15] <Marine1> phlak_user, something is up because when I relaunched fire fox the video I was playing earlier had no sound coming out of it?
[18:15] <PastulioLive> back to tech-snap
[18:16] <De|ta> anyone any idea on network pauses on 11.10? was fine on 11.04. causes nothing to get through the nic.
[18:16] <Reaper> dunno
[18:16] <phlak_user> Marine1: not sure; what site was the FF on? or do you have any plugins/addons that would cause this
[18:16] <Marine1> phlak_user,  i should be able to play music in banshee/firefox at the same time.
[18:16] <k013> @benXYZ - no problem, all data backed up,
[18:16] <k013> @arghX - i connected wirelessly, i'm sure u want some detail, but i'm not getting it!
[18:16] <phlak_user> Marine1: yes
[18:17] <dlbike76> Cyb3rAssasin:  why are some user's names a different color in Xchat-gnome?
[18:17] <phlak_user> k013: are you able to see any wireless networks on network-manager?
[18:17] <phlak_user> De|ta: what tool did you use to find out the network pauses?
[18:17] <Cyb3rAssasin> dlbike76, not sure but don't use xchat-gnome
[18:17] <Cyb3rAssasin> use xchat
[18:18] <Cyb3rAssasin> dlbike76, ooohhh its so its easier to read the channel and it makes it easier to differentiate between nicks
 nome will phase out... gradually. change should come gradually. I do Work with my machine. now all my setup is gone. no warning nothing. suddenly I get an interface I can not even change. this is backward.
[18:18] <giulia> hello, does someone work with Gnome-Shell ? I'd like to make my message tray always visible on Gnome Shell, but I have no idea on how to do it. Can you help me ? Thank you
[18:18] <Marine1> phlak_user, not what I did but the problem persist. Let me close out ff and see what happens?
[18:18] <k013> @phlak_user - no! its not showing anything! it says (tick) enable wireless networking
[18:18] <phlak_user> Marine1: ok
[18:18] <Cyb3rAssasin> Gargoylle, it was announced that Gnome 2 was being removed in 11.10
[18:18] <werever_> hello, my 11.10 won't start x on boot up, this is a common problem coming from alphaversion, I tried reinstalling nvidia drivers, reinstalling virtualbox, removing virtualbox, and the problem persist....please help me guys
[18:19] <phlak_user> k013: (redundant question) is there a wireless network available?
[18:19] <k013> @phlak_user: no!
[18:19] <De|ta> phlak_user, no tool - but any streaming media stops, and I get massive lag on my SSH connection to the other box
[18:20] <armence> Gargoylle, Not sure why you're telling me that... I just pointed out you can install gnome from the ubuntu software center. If I wanted to be a jerk, I could point out this is information I just found out myself about about 20 sec of googling...
[18:20] <giulia> werever_, save your documents, photos, software profiles and format everything
[18:20] <De|ta> I'm connected over wifi, but the connection does not drop
[18:20] <Gargoylle> Cyb3rAssasin, eventually unity will be configurable. I dont like the heavy handed nature of the changes forced to the users. eventually if this goes on as it does now, unity and ubuntu with it will come to pass. we will have oh I dont know xubuntu? time will tell.
[18:20] <phlak_user> k013: i mean are there any wireless routers powered up close by?
[18:20] <werever_> giulia LOL
[18:20] <arooni-mobile> how is the 11.11 upgrade process from 11.04?  pretty stable?  or should i wait a few weeks
[18:20] <giulia> werever_, I'm not joking
[18:21] <phlak_user> De|ta: if you tail -f /var/log/syslog in a terminal window and see what messages you get when this occurs, it might give some insight
[18:21] <k013> @phlak_user: yes! its on, and working fine. i'm talking to u using another laptop
[18:21] <Cyb3rAssasin> Gargoylle, you're an idiot.
[18:21] <leifw> if I try to install zsnes:i386 with apt-get, it tries to remove a bunch of packages that I want (vlc and others), any way around this? I used to be able to have 32-bit zsnes and its libs along with ia32-libs, has this option been broken?
[18:21] <phlak_user> k013: oh ok; now can you describe your laptop/make/model/which wireless card etc ?
[18:22] <jdavis> I just upgraded to 11.10, but it told me there were errors. Afterward, I did a "aptitude install" to see what was wrong, and it wanted to uninstall a lot of stuff.
[18:22] <phlak_user> Gargoylle: pl take this offtopic; you're just cluttering up the screen
[18:22] <Cyb3rAssasin> arooni-mobile, do you use Unity?
[18:22] <De|ta> CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED bssid=00:00:00:00:00:00 reason=0
[18:23] <giulia> werever_, since your problem has been there from the alpha, you tried everything you could do without reinstalling. If you change a root file, you run useless risks for your system. So the least risky is formatting everything, instead of trying to tweak the system you already have : like you want to add a rustine while changing the wheel is the only solution. Did I make myself understand ?
[18:23] <werever_> giulia there are 300 GB from documents under my encrypted user folder, and I thougt its more difficult backlup it than fix the problem
[18:23] <phlak_user> De|ta: what card?
[18:23] <giulia> werever_, do you have an external drive ?
[18:23] <iwoz> unity is sucks. or my pc is older
[18:24] <iwoz> gnome forever!
 I installed with sudo apt-get install gnome. that got me gnome3 and it shows as installed in the software center. thank you for not being a jerk. ;) I've used ubuntu for some years now.
[18:24] <armence> So question: Anyone here use a combo of gnome2 and xmonad with oneric ocelot? I can't seem to get my config right.
[18:24] <jdavis> http://pastebin.com/d4wmVT6K
[18:24] <armence> Gargoylle, Log out, select Gnome Classic and that should give you gnome2
[18:24] <Marine1> phlak_user, do you know what will cause that? the audio player and ff not to play music or anything at the same time?
[18:24] <Gargoylle> I am an idiot. thank you. an idiot for not getting my homework done before an upgrade.
[18:24] <Mike``> Question about the unity system tray, is there anyway to disable the white list so that everything that wants to attach to it can?
[18:24] <jdavis> Any suggestions?
[18:24] <giulia> werever_, if you have an enough big external drive, it shouldn't be a problem to save your documents. Copy-paste into your drive, and it will be a piece of cake.
[18:24] <werever_> giulia, yes I understand you, I can get an external drive, can you guide me to enable usb devices by using command line?, maybe I can copy all to a usb device
[18:24] <De|ta> phlak_user, not sure tbh. Hang on, i'll find out what card it is (am on a laptop here)
[18:25] <Cyb3rAssasin> Gargoylle, that explains a lot. Go use a real distro if you don't like change. Arch or Debian would be a great choice for you. Although since you seem like a babbling moron I don't think you'd even get through the install process. So go buy a windows machine.
[18:25] <phlak_user> De|ta: sudo lshw -C network might help (or even lspci)
[18:25] <Gargoylle> I just want a way to get my gnome2 back. a sudo apt-get install gnome2 does not work. :/
[18:25] <giulia> my system has already enabled usb devices. wait a sec, I find you the way of doing
 I'll try that now.
[18:25] <k013> @phlak_user - the laptop with issues is a HP compaq presario CQ40, under additional drivers, it shows broadcom sta wireless driver, when i try to activate, it says - sorry, installation of this driver failed. please look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log - sorry, about my slow typing
[18:26] <delac> how can I test gnome-shell? I did install it already, but trying to log into GNOME will just take me back to Unity desktop. Using gnome-shell --replace seems to work, but then there are other problems like missing menubars...
[18:26] <parabyte> what script calls the display manager?
[18:26] <De|ta> broadcom 4311
[18:26] <parabyte> like lightdm or gdm or kdm
[18:26] <Cyb3rAssasin> armence, AFAIK they removed Gnome Classic in 11.10
[18:26] <parabyte> i mean login manager
[18:26] <phlak_user> Gargoylle: follow this -> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/09/11/install-the-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-11-10/
 I belive ubuntu is a real distro. and I use it on all of my machines.
[18:27] <armence> Cyb3rAssasin, I have 11.10 and something that looks an aweful lot like gnome classic
[18:27] <Cyb3rAssasin> *headdesk*
[18:27] <phlak_user> k013: ok
[18:27] <parabyte> Well actually Debian would be considered the real Distro
[18:27] <arooni-mobile> Cyb3rAssasin, dont use it now; cuz it was too buggy before
[18:27] <bmoore1> does anyone know where i can find a working gnome-shell-extension-remove-bluetooth-icon?
[18:27] <arooni-mobile> but id like to
[18:27] <iwoz> Gargoylle: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[18:27] <giulia> werever_, here is the link into the doc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB hope it helps you
[18:27] <parabyte> But i use Ubuntu myself cause of the all multimedia apps
[18:27] <werever_> thanks giulia
[18:27] <Cyb3rAssasin> parabyte, I agree completely
[18:27] <phlak_user> delac: select it when you enter username at the login screen by clicking on the "sprocket" icon
[18:27] <Mike``> any distro that has > 10 people and can  be actually downloaded = real distro
[18:28] <parabyte> Cyb3rAssasin, you know where the login manager it called from
[18:28] <parabyte> what script
[18:28] <Mike``> Question about the unity system tray, is there anyway to disable the white list so that everything that wants to attach to it can?
[18:28] <parabyte> i cant remember for the life of me
[18:28] <Cyb3rAssasin> no I don't sorry
[18:28] <parabyte> Eludes me the information
[18:28] <delac> phlak_user: I did. It logs into Unity.
 gnome classic isnt removed, unless you mean by default....install gnome-shell and gnome-session-fallback work
[18:28] <parabyte> Anyone point me to the folder and sub folder where login manager details are held be good
[18:28] <parabyte> like X init scripts
[18:29] <giulia> Mike, go to dconf-editor. Set the desktop.unity.panel and in the systray_whitelist, you leave it empty
[18:29] <iwoz> to install Gnome Classical Desktop : sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[18:29] <phlak_user> delac: you selected gnome-classic and it logs into unity?
[18:29] <phlak_user> Mike``:  gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[18:29] <De|ta> phlak_user, are you aware of any issues with the Broadcom 4311?
[18:30] <giulia> ['all'] is for all apps
[18:30] <delac> phlak_user: with all of the options (except Ubuntu 2d)
[18:30] <giulia> empty is for no apps
[18:30] <famgod> delac are you sure you choose gnome-classic instead of gnome?  gnome3 looks very similiar to unity you might be confused
[18:30] <De|ta> I've forcing it to 'forget' the network, and then reassociating  - but that hasn't helped
[18:30] <judget> If installing Ubuntu alongside of Winblows where does the grub bootloader endup on the windows drive or on the Ubuntu drive?
[18:30] <Mike``> giulia, phlak_user ok so I want 'all' thank you
[18:30] <phlak_user> De|ta: i know that most if not all Broadcom chips have an issue with Linux in general due to BC no releasing the drivers
[18:30] <giulia> ok Mike :)
[18:30] <giulia> sorry for my mistake
[18:30] <giulia> :)
[18:30] <delac> famgod: both GNOME and GNOME Classic will take me to the Unity desktop
[18:30] <Mike``> s'all' good ^^
[18:30] <phlak_user> Mike``: yw
[18:31] <Shamu> can anyone point me to a channel for POSIX developers. trying to port something to linux (non-version specific)
[18:31] <giulia> anyone can tell me how can I always show (so never hide) the message tray in Gnome shell please ?
[18:31] <De|ta> yay for broadcom, lol. Can I use closed source drivers, as I say - it worked fine in 11.04 :(
[18:31] <giulia> Shamu, I really have no idea, sorry
[18:31] <phlak_user> !alis | Shamu
[18:31] <Shamu> thanks :) i suck at irc hehe
[18:31] <Shamu> !alis
[18:31] <goodmami> After logging in, I get a GUI with Unity2D, but not with 3D. Can anyone help or direct me where to look for answers?
[18:32] <oCean> Shamu: there is the ##posix channel
[18:32] <PCmechanic> Evening - Anyone had any bother with gnome shell and firefox causing system to log out (11.10)
[18:32] <Reaper> so are there any big changes in 11.10 compared to 11.04?
[18:32] <judget> goodami you may not have good enough video display drivers
[18:32] <phlak_user> goodmami: select it when you enter username at the login screen by clicking on the "sprocket" icon
[18:32] <phlak_user> PCmechanic: no
[18:32] <bmoore1> giulia: what do you mean?
[18:32] <IsmAvatar> I need some sound help. After upgrading to 11.10, my digital output speakers stopped playing.
[18:33] <schnuffle> goodmami: it falls back to U2D when your 3D isn't strong enough. So maybe check your graphic crivers
[18:33] <th__> okay i dont see any of the things on my desktop! they appear on filesystem ok but i cant see them :S wtf??
[18:33] <PCmechanic> reaper - its a tad faster and on my dell laptop its running a lot cooler than it was with 11.04
[18:33] <judget> goodami what kind of video display card do u have?
[18:33] <goodmami> judget: it looks like I have the nvidia 280.something
[18:33] <judget> you can try installing the nvidia drivers
[18:33] <vimojnguoi_> \#ubuntu-vn.org
[18:34] <vimojnguoi_> #ubuntu-vn.org
[18:34] <armence> I'm seeing the following error: can anybody help? error while loading shared libraries: libffi.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:34] <goodmami> judget: i'll double check they are installed
[18:34] <PCmechanic> with 11.04 had major issues with heat, and it seemed to be the wireless hardware in the laptop that was getting hot
[18:34] <Reaper> pcmechanic is that it? its still a bit buggy for what I want to do and was thinking about going back to 11.04
[18:34] <judget> goodami got to system ... hardware drivers
[18:34] <giulia> bmoore1, when you go to the Gnome Shell, the message icon is hidden by default, and you see it only when the mouse is on the message tray. What I wish is always seeing this message tray, without needing to put the mouse on it. This is my question ;)
[18:34] <PCmechanic> only installed it today reaper - ot a fan of unity so installed gnome shell
[18:34] <vimojnguoi_> #ubuntu-vn
[18:34] <judget> goodami thats is system... administration... hardware drivers
 thank you for the info. I think I screwed my machine 2 much. it does not work. I'll just have to do a reinstall I guess.. I get cannot open display.
[18:35] <PCmechanic> so im still kinda testing it out, but so far thats what ive found
[18:35] <goodmami> judget: um... any idea how to force a logout?
[18:35] <Reaper> pcmechanic yeah ive tried that and it still loads into ubuntu, even when I select classic.
[18:35] <goodmami> I can alt+f2 to a terminal tty then reboot, but I don't know how to logout of the graphical one
[18:35] <judget> ctrl alt del
[18:36] <goodmami> hah, thanks
[18:36] <bmoore1> giulia got it... there is an extension in fedora for that, but i don't think it's in the ubuntu repos... nope, just checked. i have found the source for *some* extensions around the web and they sometimes work and sometimes don't. a good google search should give you the name of the extension and then you can just extract the tarball into ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
[18:36] <schnuffle> goodmami: sudo /etc/init.d/gmd restart will force logout
[18:36] <IsmAvatar> I need some audio help. After upgrading to 11.10, my digital output speakers stopped playing.
[18:36] <schnuffle> oops gdm of course
[18:36] <goodmami> thanks schnuffle
[18:36] <PCmechanic> only issue i've had so far with 11.10 is firefox causes the system to hang or log out
[18:36] <Aleo> id I do this: Install the classic GNOME desktop by installing the gnome-panel package. - means that I can not use unity anymore ?
[18:36] <Aleo> or the gnome 3
[18:36] <giulia> ok bmoore1 thank you. Can you tell me the name of the extension please ?
[18:37] <judget> ok so I am trying to learn more about grub. with a dual boot system when i dod the side by side with a second drive for ubuntu which drive get grub installed?
[18:37] <niftylettuce_> hey folks how might I get latest version of gphoto2 in 10.04?
[18:37] <schnuffle> Aleo: at the login you have the choice which you want to use
[18:37] <PCmechanic> aleo - ive installed gnome shell and its not effected unity at all
[18:37] <niftylettuce_> current version in ubuntu 10.04 repo is 2.4.5 but latest is 2.4.10+
[18:37] <rfm_> Hi guys, so I'm trying to install 10.04 server, installing over the network, and I'm installing onto a raid1
[18:37] <dispi> IsmAvatar, i had similar thing happen, laptop analog speakers do sound but no output on the headphone jack to speakers :C
[18:37] <PCmechanic> you just get the option to log into gnome
[18:37] <rosario> Hi guys, I don't know if it's a problem unique to Ubuntu or just a hardware failure: I got a Lenovo ThinkPad T60 today and lspci show this http://pastebin.com/NXEhTww9 wireless chipset. I can connect to my favorite network but I get incredibly bad timings and it feels like "lost connection". I tried an USB dongle (namely TL-WN821N) and it's just working fine...
[18:37] <Gunz4MiPPle> !lubuntu
[18:37] <rfm_> And when it gets to the setp where it tries to install grub, grub fails at understanding RAID and dies
[18:37] <dispi> have not yet found answer, hope you will!
 thank you for the link. so its actually gnome-panel.  I need to do some more reading.
[18:37] <Aleo> schnuffle, I already have the choice for Gnome 3, so I don't need that, true ?
[18:38] <rfm_> how the heck do I manually install grub? Note: machine has no optical drive
[18:38] <schnuffle> Aleo: yes
[18:38] <Aleo> schnuffle, thks
[18:38] <schnuffle> rfm_: install it to your first disk.
[18:38] <giulia> werever_ do you manage with mounting the usb key ?
[18:38] <goodmami> judget: looks like there's two nvidia drives in the Additional Drivers dialog.. "version-current" (activated) and "post-release updates". should I try the other?
[18:39] <rfm_> schnuffle: install what to my first disk
[18:39] <bmoore1> guilia can't remember... if you search through all the fedora extensions for gnome-shell, you'll find.
[18:39] <schnuffle> rfm_: the grub boot loader. When you have a raid 1 and want to make sure you can boot from a degraded RAID you must install grub to both disk in your array
[18:39] <giulia> ok
[18:39] <rorymckinley> jdavis: are you running 64-bit ?
[18:39] <Reaper> pcmechanic I have sever selections at the boot up. gnome, gnome classic, ubuntu, ubuntu 2d and no matter what I select it goes into ubuntu
[18:40] <jdavis> I encountered these problems during upgrade to 11.10: http://pastebin.com/d4wmVT6K   Any suggestions? The upgrade is already complete so I think my system is in an inconsistent state.
[18:40] <rfm_> schnuffle: Okay, so given that my machine currently doesn't boot and the only thing which does boot is the network installer, how do I do that?
[18:40] <jdavis> rorymckinley:yes
[18:40] <PCmechanic> reaper - i choose  gnome classic and it takes me into the old style gnome desktop
[18:40] <PCmechanic> granted not quite the same as v2, but close enoug
[18:40] <Reaper> yeah, wish mine did lol
[18:40] <rorymckinley> jdavis: aptitude does not seem to like the multi-arch stuff that is new with 11.10
[18:41] <schnuffle> rfm_: you have already an installation on your harddisk? If so, boot from some USB stick, and install grub on your hd
[18:41] <mlechner> hi, after upgrading to oneiric my default keyboard is set to somwhat POSIX. 10.04 it was a german keyboard-layout. how to set this back? I mean want the systemwide german keyboard again - not just within X-sessions
[18:41] <phlak_user> Reaper: try selecting *after* you enter username
[18:41] <PCmechanic> reaper - you still get the unity bar on the left hand side ?
[18:41] <rorymckinley> there is a bug report in launchpad somewhere
[18:41] <eVisetax> Do any of you know of a program that is similar to AutoCAD for linux?
[18:41] <Reaper> pcmechanic yes
[18:41] <xangua> eVisetax: freecad¿
[18:41] <th__> okay i dont see any of the things on my desktop! they appear on filesystem ok but i cant see them :S wtf??
 ok ill try that
[18:41] <rfm_> schnuffle: : I am booting from the USB stick. The USB stick does not have grub, or mdutils for that matter
[18:41] <jdavis> rorymckinley: hmm, OK.
[18:41] <goodmami> judget: well I'll try and see what happens..
[18:42] <rorymckinley> jdavis: I have installed synaptic and I am using that in the meantime
[18:42] <shmoolikipod> hi, I sorry to ask, but I don't find the anser on Google.
[18:42] <schnuffle> rfm_: Okay, then mount a disk to somewehere and chroot into it
[18:42] <delac> FYI: logging into GNOME (gnome-shell) with live-usb user ubuntu doesn't seem to work, you will need to create another user to test gnome-shell.
[18:42] <rfm_> I cannot in fact mount any disks
[18:42] <eVisetax> xangua: how is it in comparison to autocad?
[18:42] <shmoolikipod> how can i move back to Ubuntu Classic ?
[18:42] <phlak_user> th__: by design, the gnome 3 desktop is meant to be like that
[18:42] <rfm_> attempting to mount /dev/sdb1 (which is my disk) results in device not found
[18:42] <armence> Can anyone help me in getting libffi.so.5?
[18:42] <xangua> !nounity | shmoolikipod
[18:42] <Zetsumei> hello
[18:42] <rorymckinley> jdavis: If you are interested - I think I have the link to the bug report in browser somewhere - can post it
[18:42] <schnuffle> rfm_: what kind of raid do you have?
[18:42] <jdavis> rorymckinley: oh, OK. A link would be great.
[18:42] <th__> phlak_user, like what?
[18:43] <giulia> bmoore1, I really can't find the name. Really no idea of it ?
[18:43] <G33K> h4x04z
[18:43] <Zetsumei> Can anyone help me ive got a issues, basicaly when i start the computer it just stays read error this is ubuntu 11.10 x64 installed along side windows 7
[18:43] <shmoolikipod> ubottu, thank I will try that
[18:43] <rfm_> schnuffle: RAID 1
[18:43] <mlechner> hi, after upgrading to oneiric my default keyboard is set to somwhat POSIX. 10.04 it was a german keyboard-layout. how to set this back? I mean want the systemwide german keyboard again - not just within X-sessions. It's a PS2 keyboard.
[18:43] <schnuffle> rfm_: sotraid or hardware raid
[18:43] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[18:44] <rfm_> schnuffle: software
[18:44] <rfm_> thus the mention of mdutils
[18:44] <guido1955> hello am I in the right place for some help with ubuntu 11:10?
[18:44] <G33K> creeperz n fem
[18:44] <mlechner> guido1955: just ask
[18:44] <judget> goodami use the one marked recomended
[18:44] <rfm_> schnuffle: The install environment has a chilling lack of stuff installed. Like fdisk, for example
[18:44] <G33K> @sinux
[18:44] <goodmami> judget: ok
[18:45] <rorymckinley> jdavis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/845183
[18:45] <G33K> wfcdjgfa
[18:45] <G33K> md
[18:45] <schnuffle> rfm_: what gives a fdisk -l /dev/sda
[18:45] <G33K>   na
[18:45] <charolastra> hi, just tried a dist upgrade but X crashed during the upgrade and now a apt-getdist-upgrade results in a "E:Internal Error, Could not early remove libaudio2"; now i'm stuck, does anyone know what to do?
[18:45] <guido1955> OK Im am complete newbie I need guidance on installing veetle to run on ubuntu 11:10 please
[18:45] <rfm_> schnuffle: "fdisk: command not found"
[18:45] <xangua> guido1955: is that on repositories¿
[18:45] <rfm_> schnuffle: er, sorry "/bin/sh: fdisk: not found"
[18:45] <PCmechanic> cant figure out why the heck my install freezes  - If i close firefox  say - for the 3rd time then open it again it completly hangs or logs me out
[18:45] <schnuffle> rfm_: is that the normal install CD?
[18:45] <guido1955> xangua see I am lost already! repositories?
[18:45] <Gargoylle> tell you something funny. maybe it will clear some misunderstandings. my wife is fine with unity. I dont like it. I can not do what I need to do with it. I got pissed when my setup just got uninstalled from my system without even a warning during the upgrade. a clear warning saying gnome2 woudl be uninstalled would have stopped me from doing the upgrade. and given me the time to figure out...
[18:46] <Gargoylle> ...what to do with the transition.  now I am stuck late at night with a nonusable system and work to do.
[18:46] <PCmechanic> only seems to be firefox causing the issue
[18:46] <rfm_> schnuffle: It's the network installer
[18:46] <jdavis> rorymckinley: thanks, I'll try synaptic or something in the meantime, and I'll watch the report for updates.
[18:46] <Gargoylle> and thats the last I'll say on the issue.
[18:46] <PCmechanic> grantesd a workaround is to not use firefox or dont close it ...
[18:46] <schnuffle> rfm_: Hmm, and you don't have any other bootaböe linux media?
[18:46] <Pauluntu> OMG is there a way to make a darn desktop icon to a file
[18:46] <rorymckinley> jdavis: Yup, that's pretty much what I will be doing :)
[18:47] <rfm_> schnuffle: I have plenty but the machine has no optical drive
[18:47] <mlechner> guido1955: what's wromg with the installer son the veetle HP
[18:47] <Guthur> with 11.10 unity how does one edit the properties of apps in the laucher
[18:47] <Guthur> launcher*
[18:47] <Doodie> how can i know if my pendrive is h:, z:, x:?
[18:47] <mlechner> hi, after upgrading to oneiric my default keyboard is set to somwhat POSIX. 10.04 it was a german keyboard-layout. how to set this back? I mean want the systemwide german keyboard again - not just within X-sessions. It's a PS2 keyboard.
[18:47] <schnuffle> rfm_: and even no USB key?
[18:47] <Guthur> I want to add arguments to the launching application
[18:47] <rfm_> schnuffle: We had to buy a USB key to put the installer on it and I would rather not wipe this one as it took quite a while to set up
[18:47] <guido1955> I have searched the itnernet for guides on installing veetle and followed the instructions given but its just not there when I want to use it
[18:47] <guyfriday> i tried upgrading to 11.10 and now i'm having trouble booting, can anyone help?
[18:48] <Guthur> traditional obtain via the right click menu on the icon
[18:48] <rfm_> schnuffle: Is there a 10.04 live USB image somewhere?
[18:48] <BenXYZ> What's the best version of flash player for Oneiric? Should I get it from their website, the repositories, or use some beta / experimental release? This is for firefox
[18:48] <mlechner> guido1955: what exactly did you do?
[18:48] <Reaper> nope didnt work lol
[18:48] <schnuffle> rfm_: if you have a windows PC available, use yumi. I that way youo can create easily a multi boot usb with netinst on it and some rescue tools
[18:48] <pdq> Guthur, http://askubuntu.com/questions/35488/list-of-custom-launchers-quicklists-for-unity has some good info
[18:49] <xangua> BenXYZ: you can install it from software center
[18:49] <shawe> hi
[18:49] <BenXYZ> xangua: Is that the best (or 'official') way to do it?
[18:50] <rfm_> schnuffle: Okay is there a good guide for that
[18:50] <Guthur> pdq: cheers right click on desktop does not actually have a create a launcher option
[18:50] <Pauluntu> i have a folder that i copied to my home folder.  it contains a program that uses wine to run.  I right click that program and make a link then i drag that link to my desktop problem is when i run that link it tries to find the files in the desktop not the actuall linked folder
[18:50] <schnuffle> rfm_: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[18:50] <pdq> right but some of the how to's go into details describing where the .desktop files are located and how to edit em
[18:50] <Guthur> to be honest I'm not sure who's 'bright' idea it was to make this so difficult, but I my view it does nothing to improve usability
[18:51] <Guthur> I/in
[18:51] <rfm_> schnuffle: ok
[18:51] <Doreida> Just upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04 and my login screen isn't working
[18:51] <egsome> Is Ubuntu 11.10 have some bugs there, or I've some problems with upgrade ? ( Folder fast search doesn't work, Skype hangs from 1 moment, thunderbird shows errors about Notif. ) ..
[18:51] <Doodie> hi
[18:51] <schnuffle> rfm_:  is there at least grub on the netinst stick?
[18:51] <Pauluntu> idk in my view any desktop enviroment that makes making desktop icons difficualt isn't worth using, they need to fix that with unity or trash it
[18:51] <rfm_> schnuffle: It seems to only offer ubuntu desktop as an option, I don't have any ubuntu desktop ISOs
[18:51] <Guthur> what was wrong with the right click properties, simple an effective, sorry for lamenting, but it has got my back up slightly
[18:51] <Doreida> at least I can get to the shell thingy
[18:51] <rfm_> schnuffle: It is on there somewhere but the stick was created badly so it's inaccessible
[18:52] <Breakable> how to decrease the lightness of the monitor on my laptop even more ? I used fn key but it's not enough
[18:52] <rfm_> also it is only there in the form of an unextracted .deb
[18:52] <guyfriday> hey is there anyone who can help a newbie through some 11.10 install problems?
[18:52] <Doreida> I tried sudo apt-get update but it told me to do something to the dkpg
[18:52] <Doreida> so it's running now
[18:52] <judget> Guthur I agree
[18:52] <jcdury> help identify
[18:52] <Zetsumei> i'm currently running of live disk where are relative grub files all i get on boot up is read error
[18:52] <benjiii> hello: i've just installed oneiric and i'm wondering if it's possible to configure notify-osd at all - specifically the size and positioning of the notification
[18:52] <Doodie> is there anyway to know which drive letter (x, y, c...) is my pendrive?
[18:53] <schnuffle> rfm_: then better create a new stick. Yumi does really a good job for that. I've always a stick in my pocket with about 8 distributions on it. Saved my live already often
[18:53] <pepe> hello
[18:53] <hulaka> Is it safe if I've showed my ubuntu username to some people? Had a problem and had to take a screenshot and you know ...
[18:53] <Guthur> judget: yep, I would actually like the rational explained to me by the devs, because I am having bother seeing the win here
[18:53] <pepe> !list
[18:53] <pepe> !alis
[18:53] <rfm_> schnuffle: again, yumi only offers desktop versions of ubuntu
[18:53] <pepe> !bot
[18:54] <rfm_> not server versions
[18:54] <oCean> pepe: please use the bot in private: /msg ubottu bot
[18:54] <judget> i think everyone tries to follow Macintosh lead on GUI and poor dumb mac only has had a single mouse button for years
[18:54] <Doreida> but mac *does* have right-click menus last I checked
[18:54] <MNichie> hulaka:Just don't give out the password
[18:54] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[18:55] <hulaka> Thanks lol :P
[18:55] <Zetsumei> can i get any help here
[18:55] <Zetsumei> or i'm i wasting time
[18:55] <MNichie> sure
[18:55] <Zetsumei> all i get on boot up is
[18:55] <Zetsumei> read error
[18:55] <DanaG> ARGH.  libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied
[18:55] <DanaG> That's what I get under lightdm.
[18:55] <DanaG> Works fine under gdm, but then /sbin is not in PATH.
[18:55] <schnuffle> rfm_: then http://www.pendrivelinux.com/run-ubuntu-server-edition-installer-from-usb/
[18:56] <virusz> i need to have some verification because now windows have clobber my MBR.From live usb,open terminal #mkdir /mnt/temp then mount -o /dev/sdx#/mnt/temp {question is..which number of partition i need to put.../boot?/root?swap?..tq in advance...
[18:56] <MNichie> Zetsumei: Can you see your harddrive while using the livecd?
[18:56] <Zetsumei> yeah on livecd now
[18:56] <schnuffle> Zetsumei: what have you done before getting you error?
[18:56] <Zetsumei> i can see it
[18:56] <Zetsumei> i had windows 7 on before
[18:56] <Zetsumei> using 11.10 x64 now
[18:56] <Zetsumei> could it be x64?
[18:57] <Guthur> actually, screw this, I'll just redo my Gnome desktop, which 11.10 decided to completely screw up, as in make my setup non-existent.
[18:57] <ralfp> I have one desktop (always on) and two notebooks. I want to set up the desktop machine as server, and use the laptops as clients, e.g. creating a new user on the server will give me the same users on the notebook, and files are accessible from the notebook as well. Is there an easy way to do this with ubuntu?
[18:57] <Pauluntu> How do i make a link on the desktop with Ubuntu 11.10?
[18:57] <judget> Guthur is your issue with the Unity desktop?
[18:57] <MNichie> Zetsumei: is your processor 64bit?  Sounds like you need to repair grub
[18:58] <Zetsumei> yeah its i5
[18:58] <Zetsumei> yeah not sure why grub is broken
[18:58] <DanaG> Do I need to be in the "video" group to use DRI?
[18:58] <DanaG> That doesn't sound sane to me.
[18:58] <DanaG> And it's true only under lightdm.
[18:58] <guyfriday> trying  to boot 11.10, keep getting a mountall: Plymouth command fail
[18:58] <Zetsumei> but all the forum posts say stuff about stage1 and it pointing to the wrong hard drive but i can't find anyof it not sure if tis just the wrong info
[18:59] <virusz> i need to have some verification because now windows have clobber my MBR.From live usb,open terminal #mkdir /mnt/temp then mount -o /dev/sdx#/mnt/temp {question is..which number of partition i need to put.../boot?/root?swap?..tq in advance...
[18:59] <Pauluntu> How do i make a link on the desktop with Ubuntu 11.10?
[18:59] <rfm_> schnuffle: If you read that carefully you'll see it doesn't use yumi, but rather the "universal usb installer"
[18:59] <guido1955> hello really sorry I had to step away! wife nagging me :( somebody was asking what I did to install veetle???
[19:00] <Reaper> guido1955 beware the nag lol
[19:00] <guido1955> mlechner? it was you!
[19:00] <Doreida> can anyone help me troubleshoot the new login screen? :x
[19:00] <IsmAvatar> I need some audio help. After upgrading to 11.10, my digital output speakers stopped playing. I want them to play again.
[19:00] <Pauluntu> Is making a desktop shortcut in 11.10 impossible or something?
[19:00] <guido1955> Im used to it reaper its why I obey without hesitation LOL
[19:00] <schnuffle> rfm_: of course as I don't want to advice you to use the desktop install and rip of every thing you don't need ( desktop and server are the but the software selection) I  told you to use something else
[19:00] <virusz> i need to have some verification because now windows have clobber my MBR.From live usb,open terminal #mkdir /mnt/temp then mount -o /dev/sdx#/mnt/temp {question is..which number of partition i need to put.../boot?/root?swap?..tq in advance...(ubuntu 11.10)
[19:00] <Reaper> lmfao
[19:01] <mlechner> guido1955: yes was me
[19:01] <xangua> Pauluntu: search what you want on the dash and just drag it to the launcher
[19:01] <Pauluntu> xangua, i dont want it on the lancher thats too many things too close together I like my desktop icons
[19:02] <MNichie> Zetsumei:Assuming your harddrive is sda use these commands: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[19:02] <magik_> hi
[19:03] <Zetsumei> its partioned
[19:03] <hulaka> Any idea why some fonts in Lubuntu 11.10 (mostly in some software & some websites) look smaller & ugly? Libreoffice looks just terrible
[19:03] <MNichie> yes... partitions only matter for the first command
[19:03] <werever_> whats exactly "apitude install" command its supposed to do?
[19:03] <salvatore> hi there
[19:03] <guido1955> ok here is what I did......... Im running ubuntu 11:10 alongsides my main OS (win xp pro) brand new clean install of ubuntu.......I want veetle to watch streaming video......... downloaded http://veetle.com/download.php/veetle-0.9.17.tgz
[19:03] <Doreida> i'm stuck on the login screen and cant get in, it's not loading like toehrs
[19:04] <rfm_> schnuffle: The official instructions to create a usb disk is to use "usb-creator.exe" which it claims is on the ISO but it is not
[19:04] <rfm_> it is not on the ISO at all
[19:04] <salvatore> anyboby knows if it is possuble to install unity sibebar on ubuntu 10.04?
[19:04] <Doreida> I get this black screen with a grey box in the middle
[19:04] <MNichie> whichever partition stores your Ubuntu root dir, mount that, then run the grub-install command pointing the root-directory at the mount point
[19:04] <guyfriday> can't boot ubuntu 11.10!
[19:04] <Doreida> the time at the top of the screen in a black bar
[19:04] <guyfriday> it just goes to GNU GRUB version 1.99-12ubuntu0
[19:04] <Doreida> and the shutdown button
[19:04] <guyfriday> 5
[19:04] <guyfriday> and gives me offers for what to boot
[19:04] <guyfriday> but none of them boot
[19:04] <tetsuo--> hello, i downloaded a binary program but when i try to run it terminal says file not found, how can i figure out what is going wrong?
[19:04] <guyfriday> can anyone advise?
[19:05] <MNichie> Zetsumei: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7 look at step 2
[19:05] <magik_> i have a problem i installed xubuntu linux before 4 days and i have a big problem .. 1 st i cant connect with networks with key ( i have the key) secound when i conenct to some netowork a times just stop working and i have to exit and enter again to the network .. so if somebody can help me i will be verry greatfull =) .. .
[19:05] <salvatore> anybody can help me?
[19:05] <MNichie> !ask
[19:05] <Bragex9> I finally manged to upgrade to 11.10, but I have two problems. First of all everthing is so very very slow. The second problem is that the system does not respond when I write my password in the login window. All that happens is that the screen goes black for a second, and then I am back at the log in window. I know that the password is correct cause if I try another password the system responds with "wrong password". Also when I hit CTR-ALT-F1 I
[19:05] <xangua> salvatore: if you mena unity, no
[19:05] <salvatore> i want to install unity sidebar on ubuntu 10.04
[19:05] <MNichie> no
[19:05] <xangua> salvatore: you can install ubuntu-netbook
[19:05] <guido1955> opened veetle tgz with archive manager ........clicked the saved file and extracted .......then extracted again, then show files selected veetle folder, double clicked ........double clicked install file ...click run in terminal
[19:06] <schnuffle> rfm_: I think we both don't understand quite well. Can you restate your problem and what happened. Right now I know: you tried to install a server with software raid 1 with a broken netinst CD
[19:06] <guido1955> restart firefox and.....its not there
[19:06] <salvatore> how?
[19:06] <guido1955> its mean to show in add-ons/plugins but it isnt plus the stream I want to watch still says I need veetle to watch
[19:06] <magik_> so will somebody help me =) ?
[19:06] <lImIton> hi
[19:06] <guido1955> did anyone get all that? LOL
[19:06] <salvatore> will it keep ubuntu 10.04?
[19:07] <judget> Bragex9 try selecting the Ubuntu Classic desktop at login look near the bottom of the screen after you enter your user name, select Ubuntu Classic from the list and then enter your password
[19:07] <schnuffle> magik_: just ask
[19:07] <armence> Hello all. Is there any way I can install libffi5? It looks like it got obsoleted by libffi6 and that's a problem because I have some stuff that required libffi5.
[19:07] <goodmami> Ok back to my Unity 2d/3d problem. I have the recommended nvidia driver installed (I have geforce 210), I get all yesses with /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p, but logging in to Unity 3d gives me just a background image (no gui; note that it does not fall back to 2d)
[19:07] <Bragex9> judget: ok I will try
[19:07] <magik_> schmidtm_: i asked
[19:07] <magik_> schmidtm_:  ( i have a problem i installed xubuntu linux before 4 days and i have a big problem .. 1 st i cant connect with networks with key ( i have the key) secound when i conenct to some netowork a times just stop working and i have to exit and enter again to the network .. so if somebody can help me i will be verry greatfull =) .. .)
[19:07] <judget> Bragex9 it sounds like it is unable to load the Unity desktop
[19:07] <jeremy-77> i clicked on the upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 and after it was done and asked to reboot I only get purple screen and nothing ells happens ?
[19:07] <schnuffle> armence: if it's still compatible you can set a symlink
[19:08] <salvatore> installing ubuntu-netbook package it will add sidebar?
[19:08] <rfm_> schnuffle: Okay so my co-worker tried to create a bootable USB stick to install a server with and the instructions on help.ubuntu.com told him to do something which is impossible, so he ended up using some third party tool to create a somewhat broken bootable USB stick
[19:08] <MNichie> magik_: are you talking about a wireless network?
[19:08] <armence> schnuffle, Smart idea... Where can I find where the .so file is?
[19:08] <magik_> MNichie: yes
[19:08] <b4lu_> hi everyone, upgraded to 11.10. no wireless because of broadcom chipset 43225. followed driver installation instructions on broadcom website because of > kernel 3 problems (http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/bcma.txt). but getting an " -1 Unknown symbol in module" on the  insmod  command. how to solve this issue?
[19:08] <lImIton> I've just instaled 11.10 and I get no devices to calibrate/profile in gnome "Color" but in the live cd i could't see my Dell monitor. Is there a reason? maybe Nvidia drivers?
[19:08] <rfm_> schnuffle: Somewhat broken in the sense that it can only net install because it fails to find the package tree which is in fact present
[19:09] <salvatore> could you help me please?
[19:09] <rfm_> it looks for a cd-rom drive and doesn't find one and then gives up
[19:09] <Zer000> guys how do i get rid of unity in 11.10 and get my gnome-classic back (pre gnome 3.0) ? because i installed gnome-shell and its the same stuff as unity...
[19:09] <magik_> MNichie: sry for my english :)
[19:09] <judget> jeremy-77 does it look like it is starting to reboot? did you see your PC startup screen and bios messages
[19:09] <guido1955> nothing?
[19:09] <schnuffle> armence: it should be under /usr/lib. sudo updatedb && licate libtiff should find it
[19:09] <salvatore> ubuntu-netbook package will add unity sidebar?
[19:09] <xangua> !gnome2 | Zer000
[19:09] <IsmAvatar> I need some audio help. After upgrading to Oneiric, my digital output speakers stopped playing. I want them to play again.
[19:09] <armence> schnuffle, Thanks
[19:09] <nspirit> #register
[19:09] <Zer000> xangua, ty
[19:09] <salvatore> does anybody has feedback about it?
[19:09] <Zer000> !notunity
[19:09] <schnuffle> rfm_:  so an option would be to create a working stick and redo the install?
[19:09] <mlechner> guido1955: did you try the *.sh installer (which shouldn't do anythnig different. What about the vlc plugin?
[19:09] <MNichie> magik_:No problem, run this command in a terminal 'lspci' in a terminal and post the results on http://pastebin.com, then post the link here.
[19:10] <jeremy-77> judget, yes I did and it was starting to boot and stopped on purple screen and even after I reboot several times still same
[19:10] <rfm_> schnuffle: Right, the problem was that the instructions on help.ubuntu.com tell you to use a tool which it claims to be present on the .iso which is in fact not present
[19:10] <edwardthefma> help
[19:10] <jeremy-77> judget, im on live cd mode with a usb now
[19:10] <schnuffle> rfm_:  I see. Do you have a windows PC at hand?
[19:11] <rfm_> schnuffle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:11] <DanaG> Weird... so, not only is my 3D not working; my audio is also not working.
[19:11] <rfm_> it tells you to use "usb-install.exe" which it claims to be present on the ISO but it is not
[19:11] <Gargoylle> I've taken my backups. will format. so which buntu version to go to? xubuntu or lubuntu?
[19:11] <th__> argh. after the update wine returns me: " [22:11:13] [th__(+i)] [3:freenode/#ubuntu(+CLcfjnt #ubunt"
[19:11] <rfm_> schnuffle: Many, in fact :)
[19:11] <magik_> MNichie: http://pastebin.com/8LNHyJQ5
[19:11] <th__> sorry bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[19:11] <edwardthefma> intiramsfs unable to find a medium contaning a live file system
[19:11] <th__> i mean
[19:11] <edwardthefma> :(
[19:11] <guido1955> I have the vlc plugin installed and running , the site I use needs veetle for HD streams, I have tried using sudo sh veetle-xxxxx-linux-install.sh but it wont install
[19:11] <th__> argh. after the update wine returns me: "bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory"
[19:12] <jolaren> Hello. I want to be able to have the facebook chat running from terminal somehow.. like in a separate browser because I'd like to be permanently online on the chat
[19:12] <guyfriday> upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 and can't boot, whenever i try it gets to the screen that says ubuntu and has five red dots, then it spits out a bunch of text that ends with mountall: plymouth command fail and a checking battery status [ OK ]
[19:12] <Bragex9> Judget: I am not sure what you mean. All I see on my desktop is the login box. From there I can choose either recovery console, ubuntu, ubuntu2d or user defined session. I have tried all. Nothing happens
[19:12] <guido1955> it just says Can't open veetle-xxxx-linux-install.sh
[19:12] <schnuffle> rfm_:  fine, :)  You can download the usb installer from there: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.6.8.exe and use the description from here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/run-ubuntu-server-edition-installer-from-usb/
[19:12] <xangua> jolaren: you can use facebook chat on empathy, the defaul instant messenger
[19:12] <magik_> MNichie: well ? ^^
[19:13] <geogeek123> any room for generale discussions ?
[19:13] <MNichie> magik_: type these lines into a terminal
[19:13] <Lithos84> geogeek123: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:13] <salvatore> is it possible to install unity 3d on lucyd^?
[19:13] <MNichie> sudo su
[19:13] <bazhang> geogeek123, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:13] <guido1955> if I type the command ls -l veetle* I get a list of stuff
[19:13] <MNichie> echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9.conf
[19:13] <xangua> salvatore: no
[19:13] <MNichie> then reboot
[19:13] <guyfriday> can anyone help me?
[19:13] <Zetsumei> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[19:13] <Zetsumei> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 10 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.
[19:13] <salvatore> 2d?
[19:13] <geogeek123> Lithos84: thanks a lot :)
[19:13] <goodmami> it looks like my hardware is capable of unity3d, and i believe the drivers are installed correctly, but could there be configurations that prevent it from loading? xorg.conf or something?
[19:13] <Pauluntu> OMFG i finally figured out how to make a desktop shortcut, but jesus christ how can ubuntu call themselves newbie friendly after having to manually make a .desktop file what happened to right clicking a file and making a desktp shortcut
[19:13] <japro> hi, i guess this isn't super specific to ubuntu, but what would i use to turn PS/PDFs into grayscale? I have someone complaining about a graph being not readable in grayscale, but can't try it out myself since i lack a printer right now
[19:13] <schnuffle> Gargoylle: You need work to do so take a LTS version which is 10.04, I think
[19:13] <Lithos84> geogeek123: You're welcome.
[19:14] <MNichie> magik_:There is a bug with your network card, that should fix it
[19:14] <schnuffle> japro: imagemagick should do the job
[19:14] <magik_> ok thanjks
[19:14] <magik_> MNichie: ok thanks =)
[19:15] <guyfriday> okay if anyone decides to actually help me i'll bake cookies and mail them to you
[19:15] <guyfriday> pleaaaaaaase help!
[19:15] <schnuffle> guyfriday: what's your prob
[19:16] <mlechner> guido1955: veetle is just installing plugins in the home-folder of vlc nad firefox. If you are using sudo the plugins are installed for root only. try #sh veetle-0.9.17-linux-install.sh from the useraccount you want to use veetle. (Didn't know veetle before, but got it up and running in  oneiric directly
[19:16] <Aleo> If I install KDE shell, it will mess with the Ubuntu with unity, or just works like the Gnome shell, at login ?
[19:16] <b4lu_> anybody any help for the unknown symbol error while trying to insmod a compiled driver for a broadcom wireless interface? insmod wl.ko --> insmod: error inserting './wl.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[19:16] <guyfriday> i upgraded to 11.10 and can no longer boot
[19:16] <MNichie> guyfriday: Look at this, http://ubuntu.igameilive.com/2010/07/how-to-fix-plymouth-command-failed.html
[19:16] <magik_> MNichie: i dont know how to thank you man =)
 thank you. anything major that may prevent my dualboot on the boot manager? I have a 10.04 ubuntu CD. do we have a lubuntu 10.04 thing? or is this some dumb question? got kind of turned off now from ubuntu cause of unity.
[19:16] <lasha> hey guys I have an emergency :( I have two problems, one was caused by other. I am trying to install ubuntu 11.10, in process I actually formatted the whole data hard drive by accident instead of a partition, I am on live usb now, how can I undo because my life is on that hard drive thank you in advance!
[19:16] <magik_> MNichie: =) thanks ....
[19:16] <guido1955> mlechner that looks promising but could you make the instructions a little more idiot prrof :)
[19:16] <MNichie> magik_:no problem
[19:17] <magik_> MNichie: =)
[19:17] <jeremy-77> why dose ubuntu do upgrade to newer versions if it breaks it most of the time?
[19:17] <guyfriday> it's not responding to any commands after the plymouth mountfail
[19:17] <DanaG> Okay, so apparently it's lightdm at fault for my broken audio and video.
[19:17] <CodeWar> looks like gcc 4.6.1 -flto is completely broken on 11.10 not sure whether to bug GCC folks or Ubuntu folks
[19:17] <MNichie> guyfriday:You should be able to boot into recovery mode at the grub menu
[19:17] <Aleo> If I install KDE shell, it will mess with the Ubuntu with unity, or just works like the Gnome shell, at login , I mean I choose KDE and it works fine ?
[19:17] <schnuffle> Gargoylle: You can download a lubuntu installer or just use the normal one and install the XFCE desktop later
[19:17] <MNichie> You can access a terminal from there
[19:17] <DanaG> It's failing to properly create a ConsoleKit session.
[19:18] <arc_nit_india> im developing customised distro based on ubuntu and i want to integrate wubi into it and i tried one tutorial from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1062504  but its for hardy and im working for lucid and code of lucid wubi is diff. From hardy version.plz help me for wubi??? wubi error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708652/ then i tried another command and gives error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708636/
[19:18] <schnuffle> guyfriday: can you paste the error message
[19:18] <lasha> guys please this is emergency anyone respond :S ? I dont know how to undo format of the hard drive :((((
[19:18] <Gargoylle> for me the problem is that I have around 5 machines running on ubuntu (most on LTS). I dont have the time to troubleshoot other OS's. one is already 2 much to handle.
[19:19] <schnuffle> jeremy-77: cause they chaneg a lot of stuff
[19:19] <erfolg> lasha, you don't have backups of what was on the harddrive?
[19:19] <mlechner> guido1955: easy: 1. download th *.sh installer from the veetle HP. 2. open a "terminal". 3. tcd to the directory veetle*.sh was downloaded to. 4. sh veetle-0.9.17-linux-install.sh 5. go through the installer process. 6. finished - shuld work, but has to be done for every user who wants to run veetle
[19:19] <lasha> erfolg, no :(
[19:19] <douggle> okay i have a question does anyone know why when i run  a wine app that my sound goes wonky i asked in the #Winehq channel they said to do pasuspender that didnt work so any other ideas on how to keep ubuntu audio while running a wine app?
[19:20] <schnuffle> lasha: then get somebody with good knowledge to help you
[19:20] <lasha> erfolg, I wanted to format a partition but instead i push... format hard drive
[19:20] <guido1955> Im the only user and the .sh file is on the desktop
[19:20] <nspirit> #
[19:20] <lasha> schnuffle: where should i seek help :S ?
[19:20] <failedUpdate> hey guys,
[19:20] <failedUpdate> does themes in ubuntu change icons?
[19:20] <schnuffle> lasha: in your enviroment, call a friend
 try using something like the hiren's boot cd. it has the tools necessary the last time I used it. but it is a very long process. it will take you days at least.
[19:20] <failedUpdate> *do
[19:21] <magik_> MNichie: can i ask you again someyhing =) ?
[19:21] <jeremy-77> schnuffle,  recover mode dos not work either and it wont let me access my storage drive to back files up to cause it wont give me permisions for it in live cd so I guess I just lost about 25 gigs of photos and and about 50 gigs of mp3's and my WOW folder.
[19:21] <rfm_> schnuffle: I'm downloading a newer install ISO just in case, once that's done I'll try that
[19:21] <guyfriday> alright thanks i might have more questions in a bit
[19:21] <Captainkrtek> lasha: it's never easy, at best try what Gargoylle reccomended
[19:21] <MNichie> sure
[19:21] <mlechner> guido1955: the open a terminal -> cd Desktop -> sh veetle-0.9.17-linux-install.sh ...ready
 a friend who knows what he/she is doing. or send the drive to a pro hdd recovery service.
[19:21] <Aleo> schnuffle, when you can help me tell, I see that you are busy
[19:22] <Aleo> or anyone
[19:22] <erfolg> lasha, what Gargoylle recommended should work. be sure to keep backups from now on though.
[19:22] <magik_> MNichie: how can i make the particiones ntfs to mount with the start of the computer :S ?
[19:22] <lasha> Captainkrtek, Gargoylle ok thank you guys i just dont have anything on computer right now except of windows partition which holds nothing :S
[19:22] <erfolg> lasha, it's a boot cd so you don't actually have to install it to your harddrive.
[19:22] <failedUpdate> lasha: external backup hard disks are a HAVE-TO-HAVE for everyone with data of value
[19:22] <guyfriday> hm when i grep, it just tells me i've got nvidia-common, and when i try to uninstall that it just tells me it can't parse or open it
[19:23] <hugo____> nvidia problems ey? me too
[19:23] <goodmami> I solved my Unity3d problem by renaming all my config files in ~  (e.g. .config, .gnome2, .compiz-1, .nvidia-settings-rc, etc) and logging out, so apparently there was a conflict from my previous install. Is this something that should be reported?
[19:23] <Zetsumei> i keep getting this sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[19:23] <Zetsumei> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 10 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.
[19:23] <Zetsumei> anymore help
[19:23] <MNichie> magik_:you can edit your /etc/fstab to do this, you first need to know what drive you are trying to mount first though(sda1, sdb2, etc)
[19:23] <schnuffle> jeremy-77: to mount you need to use sudo, so sudo mount /dev/sdXY  /mnt ( x hadrive, y partition number)
[19:23] <guyfriday> i say dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia (as per the linked help file)
[19:23] <marekweb> I'm installing 11.10 on a netbook with a 1024 x 576 screen... is this doomed to fail?
[19:24] <guyfriday> it responds nvidia-common                           install
[19:24] <guyfriday> i say sudo-apt-get remove nvidia-common
[19:24] <jo-erlend_> which package is it that provides the lock screen functionality in oneiric?
[19:24] <schnuffle> guyfriday: to uninstall you need root rights so use sudo
[19:24] <guido1955> mlechner Im sorry I dont know how to navigate to the desktop location using terminal commands, and if I just use sh veetle-0.9.17-linux-install.sh it says it can't open it?
[19:24] <guyfriday> ah of course
[19:24] <lasha> ok guys I ll tinker around
[19:24] <schnuffle> guido1955:  cd ~/Desktop
[19:25] <guyfriday> no wait i was using sudo
[19:25] <lasha> i am from external hard drive right now
[19:25] <lImIton> I've just instaled 11.10 and I get no devices to calibrate/profile in gnome "Color" but in the live cd i could't see my Dell monitor. Is there a reason? maybe Nvidia drivers?
[19:25] <jeremy-77> schnuffle,  can I privait message you on that cause I dont know how to do anyof that?
[19:25] <MNichie> magik_:any idea which disk yours is?
[19:25] <lasha> its just I want to recover only few things actually
[19:25] <lasha> homeworks and stuff
[19:25] <schnuffle> jeremy-77: go ahead
[19:25] <Gargoylle> guyfriday, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-common
[19:25] <guyfriday> oh that's what i said
[19:26] <FireRailz> when i type sudo passwd is it supposed to say created root user using 11.10?
[19:26] <guido1955> schnuffle: cd ~/Desktop   ........ no such file or directory! ?
[19:26] <Gargoylle> nope. you said sudo-apt-get remove nvidia-common. there is a blank space after sudo.
[19:26] <guyfriday> then it's W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[19:26] <guyfriday> oh that was a typo on here
[19:26] <schnuffle> guyfriday: it's sudo apt-get remove nvidia-common
[19:26] <Gargoylle> oh ok. sorry.
[19:26] <guyfriday> no worries!
[19:26] <mlechner> guido1955: what gives you "pwd" and "ls"?
[19:27] <guyfriday> okay then it goes on with a E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[19:27] <Zetsumei> oooh
[19:27] <Zetsumei> ok
[19:27] <Zetsumei> i've worked out whats fucked the install up
[19:27] <guyfriday> and E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[19:27] <Zetsumei> damn bitdefender
[19:27] <oCean> Zetsumei: control your language here, please
[19:27] <Bragex9> Is it anything I can do from a terminal window if i am unable to load the Unity desktop from normal log in?
[19:27] <Zetsumei> protecting the boot
[19:27] <goodmami> i'll take silence as a yes... thanks for all the help earlier, guys
[19:27] <lasha> there are some utilities that can restore data, does ubuntu software center have any data rescue software if anyone knows ?
[19:27] <SmashedGlass> thanks oCean =)
[19:27] <guido1955> ah desktop command is case sensitive....I just retyped using Desktop and I got the eula agreement for veetle running
[19:28] <guido1955> I think it may be a resolved problem!
[19:28] <schnuffle> guido1955: all unix based systems are case sensitive
[19:29] <dimitri> i have problem with printer after upgrade to 11.10 with canon lbp5100
[19:29] <guido1955> Im learning schnuffle! honest I am ;)
[19:29] <dimitri> someone can help me ?
 the must be. I have never used any linux app to get e formatted drive back.
[19:29] <esteeven> Does anyone know why the fglrx / catalyst driver is "laggy" in Unity but not in Xfce4. When I drag windows, the mount cursor gets ahead of the window. This makes precise precise positioning very difficult.
[19:30] <Andres__> hello?
[19:30] <Andres__> is anyone onlne?
[19:30] <lasha> Gargoylle, ok thank you I ll investigate :)
[19:30] <IsmAvatar> ... this is why unity sucks. I need something really simple. If I wanted to install/uninstall software, what would I do?
[19:30] <schnuffle> !ask | Andres__
[19:30] <bazhang> Andres__, yes
[19:30] <Reaper> esteeven it started doing that to me too after I dual booted my machine
[19:30] <Andres__> alright, so I installed the ubuntu desktop on my VPS, now it only shows the terminal windows
[19:30] <esteeven> Reaper> did you find a solution?
[19:30] <guyfriday> Gargoylle - any more advice?
[19:30] <guido1955> one last question......... for now anyway....how do I know when the isntallation is complete?
[19:31] <Reaper> esteeven no, not yet
[19:31] <lasha> Gargoylle, just letting u guys know one such too is ddrescue from GNU project apparently
[19:32] <schnuffle> guido1955: when it tells you it's finished and gonna reboot
[19:32] <Reaper> lol
[19:32] <mlechner> guido1955: it ended up and told me I could watch channels on some url and most often the prompt (where you can type commands) is visible again
 fall to a terminal with alt-shift-F1 do a sudo apt-get install whatever and go back with alt-shift-F7.
[19:32] <Andres__> does anyone know why like I cant see the ubuntu bar and stuff like that?
[19:32] <dimitri> how install i the canon lbp5100 printer on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:32] <Andres__> I am using VNC by the way.
[19:32] <FireRailz> !patience
[19:32] <IsmAvatar> Gargoylle: looking for the UI/Dash way
[19:32] <mlechner> schnuffle: guido1955 - it's linux, no reboot necessary
[19:32] <guido1955> yes thats what I have mlechner....so its safe to reboot and see if it has installed?
[19:32] <FireRailz> !help
[19:32] <IsmAvatar> seriously now.. I go to Dash and I type "Install" and it doesn't show the application to install stuff... How am I expected to remember the stupid install application's name?
[19:32] <hugo____> guyfriday: do you have problems getting in to ubuntu 11.10 due to graphics problem? i have asus u35j Failed to get i915 symbols
[19:32] <bazhang> FireRailz, /msg ubottu
[19:33] <Gargoylle> guyfriday, hmm not really a clue. let me read again.
[19:33] <FireRailz> sorry thanks
[19:33] <guyfriday> thanks!
[19:33] <mlechner> schnuffle: guido1955 : just restart firefox
[19:33] <Dan_E> what is the best program to burn an iso image in ubuntu
[19:33] <Success> i miss ubuntu
[19:33] <IsmAvatar> it's not in System Settings...
[19:33] <guyfriday> hugo____: it never get to a GUI, i'm really not sure what's going on
[19:33] <b4lu_> someone pls help me. i upgraded to 11.10 yesterday and my wireless isnt working anymore.....
[19:34] <MNichie> Success:there is a simple way to resolve that :)
[19:34] <Success> is 11.10 official?
[19:34] <schnuffle> mlechner: don't tell me. And you need to reboot after installing it :)
[19:34] <MNichie> yes
[19:34] <Andres__> yeah
[19:34] <seyfarth> Hey team, updated to 11.10 on my laptop and I have a lovely "Unsupported hardware" box from AMD in the corner of my screen. I tried updating to the "post-release" fglrx in the additional drivers GUI, but the installation fails, and the log file is a tad confusing. http://i.imgur.com/Lf2uj.png
 Carefull though. if the data is dear to you, read the man pages for the program and do a little research for any quirks on the use of the program you attempt to use. it may do something to the drive that may destroy the data for good.
[19:34] <bazhang> Success, check the topic here, yes
[19:34] <Success> oh snap since when
[19:34] <Andres__> Does anyone here have a VPS with ubuntu?
[19:34] <Success> OMG YAY
[19:34] <bazhang> Success, actual support question?
[19:34] <hugo____> guyfriday: to me it says "theres no drivers for you grahpics card" did dpkg --configure -a and now i don even get to gui
[19:34] <Success> except i might stick with 11.04 because i miss ubuntu classic mode
[19:35] <Gargoylle> setup an automatic backup on a different drive.
[19:35] <Success> or does 11.10 still have ubuntu clasic
[19:35] <Andres__> it does
[19:35] <bazhang> !notunity | Success
[19:35] <magik_> MNichie: sorry for my network =( can you tell me again ?
[19:35] <schnuffle> Andres__: yes severall
[19:35] <robin0800> !nounity | Success
[19:36] <MNichie> magik_:do you know which drive you are trying to mount(sda1, sdb2, etc)?
[19:36] <mlechner> schnuffle: I didn't have to. It's just installing sonme plugins nothing that has to do with the kernel, does it?
[19:36] <Andres__> schnuffle I am having problems installing the GUI, Ubuntu Desktop, on my VPS
[19:36] <magik_> MNichie: secound
[19:36] <MNichie> sdb1?
[19:36] <schnuffle> mlechner: apprently I was confused cause a thought it was a distri install not a firefox reinstall, my fault
[19:37] <guido1955> "mlechner (and schnuffle)" I would like to say that worked but I still have no veetle :(
[19:37] <marekweb> ok so I had a hurdle installing 11.10 on a 1024x576 netbook, it seems that the profile pic selector screen doesn
[19:37] <marekweb> fit on the screen
[19:37] <Stereocaulon> Ubuntu oneiric repeats the low diskspace warning, even when I tell it to ignore all low diskspace on that device.
[19:37] <magik_> MNichie: /dev/sda4 and /dev/sda3
[19:37] <schnuffle> Andres__: you mean vncserver or freenx?
[19:37] <mlechner> schnuffle: guido1955 : have you tried turning it off and on again? :-D
[19:37] <Success> so yea it does
[19:37] <Success>  yay then im upgrading i love
[19:37] <guido1955> yes just rebooted
[19:38] <Dan_E> what is the best program to burn an iso image in ubuntu
[19:38] <Stereocaulon> Dan_E afaik K3B
[19:38] <Success> you guys. I now have windows 7, windows 8, and ubuntu 11.10 to install
[19:38] <mlechner> guido1955: why do you think veetle is not available?
[19:38] <Dan_E> thanks!!
[19:38] <Success> (currently on win7)
[19:38] <Andres__> schnuffle , I am using VNC viewer, I installed ubuntu desktop , in the termianal with the aptget install, then ran a vnc server and I am viewing it but it wont show anything other the GUI termainal on there
[19:38] <Success> i have ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop
[19:38] <Stereocaulon> Dan_E, it might be old, but it it has much better results on my burner then the standard Brasero
[19:38] <Success> i love it
[19:38] <Bragex9> I tried to enter "unity" in a terminal window. It returns this message: Warning:no display variable set, setting it to 0. Unity-panel-service:no process found. No protocol specified. compiz (core) -Fatal: couldsn't open display :0. What does this mean?
[19:39] <Andres__> Success, windows 8 is garbage.
[19:39] <Aleo> Dan_E, Brasero is good, and I think Infrarecorder have a linux version
[19:39] <Andres__> lol
[19:39] <magik_> MNichie: well ?
[19:39] <Success> win* is garbage
[19:39] <schnuffle> Andres__: you need to start a window manager at least or for the beninning xterm
[19:39] <guntbert> Success: please ask your question - all in one line
[19:39] <MNichie> magik_: First go to a terminal and type sudo su, then create 2 directories, mkdir /windows; mkdir /windows2
[19:39] <bazhang> Success, lets keep the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:39] <guntbert> magik_: don't do that
[19:39] <bazhang> MNichie, sudo -i not sudo su
[19:39] <Stereocaulon> Dan_E, keep in mind that I did not yet try the latest installment of Brasero.
[19:39] <Success> hey inside ubuntu i can still access windows files right, like music and stuff
[19:40] <Andres__> schnuffle , ok after that being done, can I see ubuntu as it is?  Like the icons and the desktop and all that?
[19:40] <mlechner> guido1955: do you have ~/.mozilla/plugins/libveetle-player-plugin.so ?
[19:40] <guido1955> it doesnt show in firefox add-ons/plugins and when I go to the site I need to have veetle for it still shows a blank screen saying I need veetle to watch
[19:40] <bazhang> Success, yes
[19:40] <magik_> MNichie: next ?
[19:40] <magik_> guntbert: why ? o.O
[19:40] <MNichie> then add '/dev/sda4 /windows ntfs-3g defaults, 0 0' to the bottom of /etc/fstab
[19:40] <hugo____> I really dont know what to do. Ubuntu 11.10 fucked my computer, graphics card problem, cant get to a gui. :(
[19:40] <MNichie> and another line for your other partition
[19:40] <bazhang> hugo____, no cursing
[19:40] <hugo____> bazhang: sorry
[19:40] <Success> wubi is awesome its running right now. anything else i should know before finishing this. im used to 1010/1104
[19:40] <bazhang> MNichie, dont recommend sudo su here
[19:41] <Stereocaulon> How do I tell Ubuntu to never ever fuss about low diskspace on a certain partition? I do want to have it on other partitions.
[19:41] <MNichie> bazhang, sure thing
[19:41] <guido1955>  mlechner no I dont have that plugin
[19:41] <schnuffle> Andres__:  yes, after the first start of vncserver you should see a dir ~/.vnc in there there should be  a file called xstartup. There you place f.e. gnome-session & to start a gnome session
[19:41] <guntbert> magik_: sudo su might/will set the environment wrong - it might make your system unusable
[19:41] <guntbert> magik_: use sudo -i instead
[19:41] <lasha> guys ok one question
[19:41] <AlienDogFear> I'm upgrading from the LTS to 11.10 on my netbook- anything in particular to be aware of
[19:42] <mlechner> guido1955: this is the file installed by the installer. may be copy it there by hand?
[19:42] <tntc> AlienDogFear: are you running 64-bit?
[19:42] <stephelton> i've put some fonts (proggy fonts, proggyfonts.com) in my ~./fonts and run 'sudo fc-cache -f -v'. but xfontsel doesn't reflect that they are installed. i've tried other directories (/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, for example). permissions seem fine. am i missing something?
[19:42] <guntbert> magik_: if you *really* need a root shell
[19:42] <jolaren> xangua: via terminal
[19:42] <guido1955> mlechner how would I do that?
[19:42] <lasha> i have windows on another hard drive and how do i boot in to it if my grub is killed or something ?
[19:42] <jolaren> xangua: ?
[19:42] <AlienDogFear> tntc: No, 32 bit atom
[19:42] <Gargoylle> success, beware, different from 1010 and 1104 is that 11.10 uninstalls you gnome if installed before. I learned the hard way and now am doing a reinstall.
[19:42] <tntc> AlienDogFear: nothing leaps to mind other than what Gargoylle said
[19:42] <manbra_linux> What is the command to update to 11.10 that will update w/o stopping
[19:43] <IsmAvatar> I was about to listen to some music while I waited for help on getting my audio working...
[19:43] <th__> if i have a scipt x.sh how do i make it so that i can call it straight from the command line just typing x?
[19:43] <Andres__> schnuffle , I didnt see that file or text, i tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start  but it was already running.
[19:43] <AlienDogFear> tntc: Okay; thanks!
[19:43] <tntc> AlienDogFear: make backups!
[19:43] <Stereocaulon> manbra_linux, you want the install to complete silently, with every option set to default?
[19:43] <Success> hey what were you talking about i can add gnome-classic to the sessions dropdown menu earlier
[19:43] <Gargoylle> AlienDogFear, gnome2 gets uninstalled. toghether with all of the interface. unity is installed instead.
[19:43] <IsmAvatar> Anyways, can anyone help me get digital audio working after upgrading to Oneiric broke it?
[19:43] <AlienDogFear> Gargoylle: Thanks for the heads up; I was aware that gnome might go away. Thanks!
[19:44] <offby1> I just upgraded to 11.10 and hate the new UI.  How can I go back to the way it was in 11.04?
[19:44] <mlechner> guido1955: use the *.tar.gz version instead of the *.sh installer unpack this archive and copy the file to ~./.mozilla/plugins/ (may be you have to tell your filemanager to show hidden files. otherwise you win't be able to see folders and fiels beginning with a dot.
[19:44] <manbra_linux> Stereocaulon, yes
[19:44] <bazhang> Success, read the notunity factoid this time please
[19:44] <Aleo> what was the name of a program from ubuntu that do some tweaks and also clean the system ? did not remember the name
[19:44] <bazhang> !notunity | Success
[19:44] <schnuffle> Andres__:  gdm uses the local display which you don't have
[19:44] <rumpe1> th__, you make it executable, rename it to "x" (without .sh) and put it in your PATH ("echo $PATH").
[19:45] <tntc> is the gnome-shell version 3.2? or a lower version?
[19:45] <Gargoylle> lasha, you can do a repair with the windows installation disk. or backup your mbr.
[19:45] <Success> can i have both
[19:45] <Stereocaulon> manbra_linux, a bit of a warning here, this will overwrite all your previous preferences when it comes to sound and even menu items.
[19:45] <bazhang> Success, there is no classic, so no
[19:45] <Andres__> schnuffle , Alright so how would I run it?  Because I didnt see the thing you told me since this is like my 3 vpc session
[19:45] <manbra_linux> Stereocaulon, that is fine.
[19:45] <lasha> gargoylle how do i backup mbr ? :S cause i dont have a cd rom on my laptop :S
[19:45] <Success>  oh so its like an app
[19:46] <tntc> bazhang: related to gnome3, is it version 3.2, or lower?
[19:46] <th__> rumpe1, thanks :) now a noob Q: how do i make a .sh to executable?
[19:46] <Stereocaulon> manbra_linux, http://serverfault.com/questions/463/how-can-i-configure-unattended-installation-of-ubuntu
[19:46] <strigoi> nick strigoi
[19:46] <mike47> Anyone see reports of packet loss using Intel EEPro100 wired ethernet on 11.10? I'm seeing 30-60% packet loss on internal network.
[19:46] <schnuffle> Andres__: you can access your server through ssh?
[19:46] <manbra_linux> Stereocaulon, thank you
[19:46] <Andres__> yeah
[19:46] <IsmAvatar> I need help getting digital audio working after upgrading to Oneiric broke it.
[19:46] <Stereocaulon> th__ use chmod +x <file to make executable>
[19:47] <Gargoylle> offby1, you cant. unfortunately. practically speaking.
[19:47] <Gargoylle> aleo, bleachit???
[19:47] <Andres__> schnuffle , yes I can acess it
[19:47] <th__> Stereocaulon, :) thanks
[19:47] <pvh_sa> i'm trying to get my head around the new unity.... alt-tab between apps, what switches between windows in an app?
[19:47] <offby1> Gargoylle: I hope you're wrong
[19:47] <raven> mouse icon not visible 11.10 - any solution?
[19:47] <tanath> how do you change user shell in 11.10? User Accounts no longer has detailed settings...
[19:47] <rfm_> schnuffle: I'm running into the same problem that I had before with the boot USB stick. It tries to detect a CD-ROM drive and fails, end of setup
[19:47] <rumpe1> th__, chmod +x file.sh (if everyone should be allowed to execute it)
[19:48] <schnuffle> Andres__: so login as the user you want to execute vncserver, and then start vncserver
[19:48] <Stereocaulon> th__ to start any executable, just enter the directory it is in and start it with ./<executable file>
[19:48] <nup> for pvh_sa try ctrl+tab to switch between windows
[19:48] <tanath> is there no app for it anymore? do i have to poke config file?
[19:48] <Gargoylle> offbyl. I couldnt get it back on my machine.. so now ı am doing a reinstall. :(
[19:48] <magik_> guntbert: man when you said that sudo su can f*ck the linux you did you mean like loosing toolbars and desktop ? :S
[19:48] <th__> Stereocaulon, im gonna make it to my $path
[19:48] <Fleck> samba failed to update when installing 11.10 on 11.04
[19:48] <bazhang> magik_, no cursing here
[19:48] <Gargoylle> sorry there.
[19:49] <magik_> bazhang: that why i used * =)
[19:49] <Bragex9> So, when I am having trouble loading the unity desktop the solution is to install gnome instead?
[19:49] <Stereocaulon> th__, ok but I advice you to dedicate a directory for that, like ~/local/bin
[19:49] <bkrstajic> Hello. I am currently using Ubuntu 8.10
[19:49] <bkrstajic>                 - the Intrepid Ibex, and today I wanted to switch to latest version.
[19:49] <bkrstajic> I decided to create bootable USB stick. Did everything as described (downloaded iso file, used "create USB startup" application and got information that this part went fine. Now, when I restart computer (it is a HP 6735s laptop) I have this message (after selecting boot from usb):
[19:49] <bkrstajic> boot:
[19:49] <bkrstajic> whatever I enter the message is: "Could not find kernel image:"
[19:49] <FloodBot1> bkrstajic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <schnuffle> rfm_:  so you can boot from the usb stick but then it tries to find a CD?
[19:49] <dmorfin> ouch. installing gnome-panel conflicts flashplugin, vlc, qt, etc, etc...
[19:49] <Andres__> schnuffle , I did... but this is all I see when I am in it... http://i.imgur.com/B8scu.png
[19:49] <magik_> guntbert: are ya here =
[19:49] <guntbert> magik_: mind your language please  - those might be possible problems, yes
[19:50] <schnuffle> Andres__:  ls -a ~
[19:50] <magik_> guntbert: ok so is there any way to fix it :S ? couse i did it ...
[19:50] <th__> rumpe1, thank you :)
[19:50] <raven> mouse icon not visible 11.10 - any solution?
[19:50] <Stereocaulon> dmorfin, gnome-panel is an afterthought, it is not well integrated into the system and it does not offer the full Gnome2 experience you had in 11.04
[19:50] <th__> Stereocaulon, for what? :)
[19:50] <schnuffle> Andres__: and don't use it as root setup a normal user
[19:50] <Andres__> schnuffle ,  ok
[19:50] <BlackBishop> on a headless server .. trying to run pulseaudio
[19:50] <Andres__> schnuffle ,  I got ".   .Xauthority    .bashrc  .config  .gconf   .profile  .pulse-cookie  .vnc ..  .bash_history  .cache   .dbus    .gconfd  .pulse    .viminfo "
[19:51] <BlackBishop> E: [pulseaudio] server-lookup.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11
[19:51] <rfm_> schnuffle: Yes
[19:51] <BlackBishop> why the heck does it want X ?!
[19:51] <tntc> Is there a semi-supported way to get gnome 3.2 on ubuntu?
[19:51] <tom_afterburn> hello could someone help me with google earth please
[19:51] <Stereocaulon> th__, security reasons, you'll want to separate directories with executable rights from non-executable directories.
[19:51] <guntbert> magik_: there certainly is a way, only I don't know the actual steps - sorry
[19:51] <rorymckinley> tntc: you can install gnome-shell from the repos for 11.10
[19:51] <Gargoylle> lasha, do a google search for backup mbr. there are some freeware to do it together with the manuals. its a very specific issue. basically, you create a bootable usb drive and put the software on it then run. but someone has created a complete bootable mbr backup restore thingy I believe.
[19:51] <raven> mouse icon not visible 11.10 - any solution?
[19:51] <tanath> so is it just me or did they lose a bunch of features in the new User Accounts app? no shell options or anything...
[19:51] <tntc> rorymckinley: is that version 3.2 though?
[19:51] <dmorfin> Stereocaulon: so... how do I edit the freedesktop.org standard menus in 11.10?
[19:52] <BlackBishop> so, any chance to get pulseaudio to run without dbus/x11 ?
[19:52] <guyfriday> alright i'm still trying to get around this plymouth mountfail, and i'm starting in recovery mode, but i can't figure out how to change anything from recovery mode
[19:52] <rorymckinley> tntc: let me confirm
[19:52] <tntc> rorymckinley: thanks!
[19:52] <Stereocaulon> th__, actually, that is a bit of a misnomer, there is technically no such thing as an executable directory, I mean the directories you've included in your executable path
[19:52] <magik_> guntbert: can you please help me couse i am new in linux and i sure cant fix this without reinstall linux =(
[19:52] <mrjbar> Has anyone had a problem with gstreamer-properties not saving your settings? I'm trying to change the video default input, but the changes don't save.
[19:52] <tntc> Unity is ok, but I really like Gnome3's hot corner
[19:52] <tanath> anyone know the difference between keepass2 and keepassx?
[19:52] <FireRailz> what irc command do you use to ignore all the signoffs it'll make the chatroom easier for me to read with my screen reader
[19:52] <jnns> hey, I updated to oneiric and keyboard isn't working after logging in. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:53] <rorymckinley> tntc: I have version 3.2.0-0ubu installed (per aptitude)
[19:53] <delac> should "gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme" be in the repositories?
[19:53] <Stereocaulon> dmorfin, I don't know, you'll have to ask someone else
[19:53] <tntc> rorymckinley: tanks mon!
[19:53] <Andres__> schnuffle ,  so what should I do now?
[19:53] <th__> Stereocaulon, any idea what this means: "Mathematica front end executable"
[19:53] <th__> /usr/local/sbin/SystemFiles/FrontEnd/Binaries/Linux-x86-64/Mathematica
[19:53] <th__> not found. Your Mathematica installation may be incomplete
[19:53] <th__> or corrupted.
[19:53] <BlackBishop> so, anybody ?
[19:53] <tanath> jnns, uneventful upgrade?
[19:53] <offby1> Gargoylle: OK, I've more or less succeeded: I installed gnome-panel and gnome-tweak-tool, logged out, clicked the gear icon at the login screen and chose "gnome classic", then logged in.  ALl my panel icons were gone, but after re-adding them, things seem tolerable
[19:53] <rorymckinley> tntc: no prob - just be aware if you have an ATI video card, chances are that gnome 3 may have issues with the driver
[19:54] <Stereocaulon> th__, sounds like the executable to start the Mathematica GUI
[19:54] <guntbert> magik_: I will try, but for the future: please don't recommend commands that you don't understand yourself!!
[19:54] <bkrstajic> Hello. I am currently using Ubuntu 8.10 - the Intrepid Ibex, and today I wanted to switch to latest version. I decided to create bootable USB stick. Did everything as described (downloaded iso file, used "create USB startup" application and got information that this part went fine. Now, when I restart computer (it is a HP 6735s laptop) I have this message (after selecting boot from usb): boot: whatever I enter the message is: "Could not
[19:54] <dmorfin> Does anyone know how to edit freedesktop.org standard menus in 11.10 without installing gnome-panel?  Or how to install gnome-panel without disabling things like flash?
[19:54] <tntc> rorymckinley: Intel or NVidia on all my machines (mostly because of previous problems with ATI!) Thanks for the heads up though :)
[19:54] <schnuffle> Andres__:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[19:54] <rorymckinley> tntc: lucky man :)
[19:54] <magik_> guntbert: thank you man =) i wont =(
[19:54] <th__> Stereocaulon, yes that is what im trying to do. so i can launch it from the command line just typing mathematica
[19:55] <Stereocaulon> th__, you'll have to look that up in the manual files of Mathematica or get in touch with Wolfram support
[19:55] <guntbert> magik_: I have to do some lookups, I'll call when I am back
[19:55] <magik_> guntbert: ok thanks
[19:55] <schnuffle> rfm_: that is really strange
[19:55] <Kingsy> where abouts in the menu can you change the settings for the gtk window decorator?
[19:55] <Andres__> schnuffle: alright I will try it
[19:56] <Andres__> schnuffle: thanks alot!!!!!
[19:56] <th__> Stereocaulon, i made the .sh to executable. isnt it possible to make it variable or something?
[19:56] <bkrstajic> Can anybody help with this issue - booting from usb.
[19:56] <Success> Debian:ubuntu::Redhat:?
[19:56] <fritsch> Success: parse error
[19:56] <tanath> anyone know the difference between keepass2 and keepassx?
[19:56] <robin0800> Kingsy, install gnome-tweak-tool
[19:56] <Success> anyone?
[19:57] <Kingsy> thanks
[19:57] <schnuffle> Success: all of them and suse as well :)
[19:57] <Stereocaulon> th__ you can define bash variables, but I'm not to sure what you would achieve with that in order to get Mathematica running.
[19:57] <Lafiir> tanath: kp2 runs on mono but has way more features
[19:57] <tanath> anyone know if there's an app to change users' shell in 11.10? or is that another feature that got lost?
[19:57] <Pen16> Hello, i updated and it jacked the display up my ubuntu and can now only run under 'safe mode'
[19:57] <Success> ubuntu is the only debian too, or no?
[19:58] <tanath> Lafiir, hm, thx. what kind of features?
[19:58] <Pen16> was wondering if anybody could help me?
[19:58] <schnuffle> Success: mint, check distrowatch.com
[19:58] <Stereocaulon> tanath, click on the gear to choose the shell you want
[19:58] <Andres__> schnuffle: wait,now I am getting.... (gedit:1659): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[19:58] <D3RGPS31> how do i enable autologin in gdm :l
[19:58] <rfm_> schnuffle: Yeah so turns out USB stick installs for /server/ editions of ubuntu are horribly broken
[19:58] <tanath> Stereocaulon, no gear. and i mean shell not desktop environment
[19:58] <th__> Stereocaulon, mathematica runs just fine but instead of typing the whole path to it i would prefer just "mathematica". sorry for my english
[19:58] <rfm_> they're fine for desktop versions
[19:58] <rfm_> apparently
[19:59] <schnuffle> rfm_:  I've never had a problem and the problem is the the usb stick builder
[19:59] <Stereocaulon> tanath, you should be able to choose the default shell with gnomeconfig. I have no experience with that in Gnome3 though
[20:00] <tanath> Stereocaulon, no such file....
[20:00] <Randolf> can I install ubuntu from an external harddisk?
[20:00] <illmortal> soooo.... anyone else have their ubuntu hanging at startup? lol
[20:00] <IsmAvatar> I need help getting digital audio working after upgrading to Oneiric broke it.
[20:00] <nordle> illmortal: yes
[20:00] <tanath> Stereocaulon, also, i'm not sure you understand what i'm after. shell = bash, zsh, etc
[20:00] <Stereocaulon> !configuration | tanath
[20:00] <rfm_> schnuffle: What versions of ubuntu have you done this with
[20:01] <schnuffle> rfm_:  9.04,10.04 and 11.04
[20:01] <Stereocaulon> tanath, yes I understood that, you meant command line shell (CLI)
[20:01] <tanath> Stereocaulon, in 11.04 and before there were settings in the users and groups app. most features are missing from Users now
[20:01] <rfm_> schnuffle: Ok so... what are you doing differently?
[20:01] <schnuffle> rfm_: that's the big question :)
[20:01] <tanath> Stereocaulon, that bot poke did nothing, BTW
[20:02] <nordle> illmortal: ssh into box from another showed segfaults on unity-greeter for me.  Then segfaults on nss_compat and plymuth.  I've had a desktop once in the last 10 reboots.  Am trying lots of things, currently xubuntu-desktop.  In the hope I can get desktop back.
[20:02] <illmortal> anyone know what's the fix with system hanging using gdm not lightdm?
[20:02] <rfm_> schnuffle: Okay so I FINALLY got into recovery mode and I can run grub-install and such.
[20:02] <schnuffle> rfm_: have you checked the md5sum of your iso download, to make sure the downloaded image is correct?
[20:02] <rfm_> "grub-install /dev/anything" gives me the "no mapping exists for md0" error
[20:02] <rfm_> schnuffle: Yes
[20:02] <Lafiir> tanath: best check their websites. keepassx is more like keepass1 in comparison to kp2
[20:03] <guido1955> I installed ubuntu 11:10 to run alongside my main OS (win XP pro) how do I remove all traces of Ubuntu? I intend to re-install Ubuntu again but waht it completely gone first
[20:03] <illmortal> nordle... sadly I thnk I might re-install ubuntu... starting to feel like ubuntu reminds me of windows.
[20:03] <tanath> Lafiir, thanks
[20:03] <guntbert> magik_: just for a diagnose: please open a terminal and  type the following command:    find . ! -u <hereComesYourAccountName>, don't paste the output here into the channel, just tell me if there are several lines
[20:03] <Stereocaulon> tanath, so I've gathered yes. Anyway, you should be able to select your non-graphical command shell, by editing the passwd file in /etc/passwd
[20:03] <Andres__> nvm, ran export DISPLAY=192.168.1.100:0
[20:03] <Kingsy> is the emerald window decorator available in the ubuntu reops?
[20:03] <schnuffle> rfm_: what gives you fdisk -l /dev/sda?
[20:03] <Kingsy> repos...
[20:03] <tanath> Stereocaulon, i'm aware of that, but i need gui method as well
[20:03] <schnuffle> rfm_: and paste the output of mount ( to pastebin )
[20:03] <mindmonkey> Hello, does anyone know how I can complete an unfinished upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 that shows a black X11 and no network?
[20:03] <nordle> illmortal: I upgraded my mythbuntu 11.04 box to 11.10 and the same with desktop.  Desktop PC went fine.  Mythbuntu box now no desktop :(
[20:04] <illmortal> mine started hanging as soon as I installed XBMC -.-
[20:04] <Stereocaulon> tanath, sorry, I'm an absolute beginner in Unity, I'm struggling with it myself, you'll have to ask someone else, but I am interested in the answer as well ;-)
[20:04] <magik_> guntbert:  find: predicado «-u» no válido
[20:05] <rfm_> schnuffle: Not really possible...
[20:05] <magik_> guntbert:  it says find not valid =S
[20:05] <tanath> Stereocaulon, mm. thanks for trying though
[20:05] <akira_> hello- can anyone help me with this error? "There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks- file "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.pv" line 968 simulate- having problems installing wine still too
[20:05] <rfm_> schnuffle: I can't copy and paste from a terminal on a machine with no internet access
[20:05] <rfm_> schnuffle: Are you sure you've done this with the /server/ iso of 10.04?
[20:05] <schnuffle> rfm_: Yes
[20:05] <guntbert> magik_: what is your username in ubuntu?
[20:06] <Andres__> schnuffle: Nothing I get a display error
[20:06] <magik_> x-press
[20:06] <rfm_> schnuffle: Installing onto a raid?
[20:06] <nordle> illmortal:  I have a GDM login :)
[20:06] <ironhalik> Guys - is there a way to make compiz config unity plugin work in 11.10?
[20:06] <schnuffle> rfm_: when I had problems it was always due to the usb stick not being built correclty
[20:06] <illmortal> me too nordle.. people keep blaming lightdm. not gdm so I don' t know what to do at this point.
[20:06] <tanath> Stereocaulon, if they hadn't called gnome 3 'gnome shell' it'd be much easier to google
[20:06] <Kingsy> is the emerald window decorator available in the ubuntu reops?
[20:06] <schnuffle> Andres__: when you do what?
[20:07] <bazhang> !find emerald
[20:07] <Andres__> sudo gedit /etc/xinetd.d/Xvnc
[20:07] <Andres__> "(gedit:1822): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: "
[20:07] <rfm_> schnuffle: How did you build the USB stick
[20:07] <magik_> guntbert:  so i put find . ! -u x-press right ?
[20:07] <Stereocaulon> tanath, you might want to lookup some settings in the Ubuntu Desktop Guide, reachable through help when you click on an empty piece of desktop
[20:07] <schnuffle> Andres__: of course as long as you don't have a display setup you need to use vi
[20:07] <bazhang> Kingsy, emerald was stopped being developed and maintained a long while ago
[20:07] <guntbert> magik_: yes
[20:07] <rfm_> okay now it's fucking installing from the network again argh
[20:08] <magik_> guntbert: i get error :/
[20:08] <oCean> rfm_: control your language here, please
[20:08] <bazhang> rfm_, no cursing here
[20:08] <Stereocaulon> tanath, and indeed, some naming choice are a bit unfortunate from a search engine's point of view ;-)
[20:08] <ghusson1> &é"'(-è_çà)=$**§!!!:mlpop:;:;,.0.
[20:08] <magik_> guntbert: is there any difference if i use xubuntu not ubuntu ?
[20:08] <tanath> Stereocaulon, not for me
[20:08] <Andres__> schnuffle: Yeah but in the tut you showed me it told me to run that? So what would be the command to run?
[20:08] <bazhang> ghusson1, english please
[20:08] <cantonic> hey guys. anyone here who can do a siege test for me? sorry for asking here, but i did not know where to ask :/
[20:08] <ghusson1> sorry
[20:08] <endeavormac> now that i've switched to oneiric and i'm giving this unity thing a try, can anyone recommend a good, simple, dark theme? I do a lot of late night programming
[20:08] <tanath> Stereocaulon, i'm on gnome classic
[20:08] <Kingsy> bazhang: see the problem is.. I am running xfce with compiz.. and I need a window decorator that I can tweak to my liking.. at the moment I have gtk-window-decorator installed.. but I cant seem to find the menu in xfce to configure it.. and I assume thats cos its gnome?
[20:09] <tanath> Stereocaulon, which is shameful compared to gnome 2 >_<
[20:09] <wolter> endeavormac, vim?
[20:09] <wolter> can I install ubuntu from a harddisk?
[20:09] <schnuffle> rfm_: As I had only a desktop install on usb I used it to install and ripped of the parts I didn't need and to build it I used once yumi, once unetbootin ( which is wacky ) and once I created it by my own with dd
[20:09] <guntbert> magik_: no, doesn't make a difference, please paste the error message (if it is just one line, else use a !pastebin)
[20:09] <Lafiir> Is there a way to close Qwibber in 11.10? Quiting just sends it back to panel.
[20:09] <endeavormac> wolter: sometimes.
[20:09] <ryan_46> If I control alt f1 into virtual console, how do I get back to the desktop. service gdm does not work.
[20:09] <Stereocaulon> tanath, ah I see. Gnome Classic is a cannabalized to a point that it scares you away back to Unity.
[20:09] <akira_> anyone know how to fix this error::: "there seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks?
[20:09] <guntbert> ryan_46: <alt>F7
[20:10] <schnuffle> rfm_: how big is your stick?
[20:10] <tanath> Stereocaulon, i could get used to unity if it weren't for certain issues. mainly driver issues right now
[20:10] <halcyonicstorm> Hi I need help installing ubuntu on my desktop
[20:10] <Stereocaulon> tanath, driver issues? How come?
[20:10] <tanath> Stereocaulon, unity and gnome shell are unusable for me
[20:10] <rfm_> schnuffle: 4 gigs
[20:10] <ryan_46> Thanks gunbert
[20:10] <atilis> a
[20:10] <Kingsy> bazhang: any advice?
[20:10] <tanath> Stereocaulon, graphical glitches or not loading at all
[20:10] <Stereocaulon> tanath, what GPU are you using?
[20:10] <halcyonicstorm> I used wubi to install ubuntu
[20:10] <rotflcopter> assumed how big to be cm-s
[20:10] <Kingsy> or anyone for that matter?
[20:10] <magik_> guntbert:  x-press@xpress:~$ find . ! -u x-press
[20:10] <magik_> guntbert: find: predicado «-u» no válido
[20:11] <tanath> Stereocaulon, ati on laptop
[20:11] <Andres__> schnuffle: so what command should I run>
[20:11] <Stereocaulon> tanath, ouch. ATI...Did you try to install the propriatary drivers?
[20:11] <guntbert> magik_: try      find . ! -u "x-press"
[20:11] <schnuffle> Andres__: the description is for a PC running already a Desktop as you don't have one you need to use a console editor like vi
[20:11] <IsmAvatar> I need help getting digital audio working after upgrading to Oneiric broke it.
[20:12] <Andres__> ohh
[20:12] <magik_> guntbert:  not working :/
[20:12] <Andres__> ok
[20:12] <Andres__> thanks
[20:12] <halcyonicstorm> ubuntu doesnt load on my desktop
[20:12] <wolter> endeavormac, for vim I like the dw_ series
[20:12] <tanath> Stereocaulon, taht's what i'm using. there's the proprietary one, and another version that says it has post-release updates. doesn't work
[20:12] <atilis> my ubuntu work with 120mb swap, only, is it wrong?
[20:12] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, you are repeating your plea over and over, yet you do not specify it.
[20:13] <illmortal> so does anyone have a explanation or link as to what's going on with lightdm and gdm hanging ubuntu at startup?
[20:13] <guntbert> magik_: strange - lets try something completely different then: you said you lost the panel?
[20:13] <halcyonicstorm> there is just a cursor blinking but ubuntu doesnt load
[20:13] <endeavormac> wolter: Could you be a bit more specific? I'm looking for GTK3+ themes though (i believe, still working my head around unity themes)
[20:13] <xskydevilx> Whenever I try installing Google Chrome in Oneiric, it get an error: "Internal Error. *file* could not be opened"
[20:13] <Stereocaulon> tanath, not even in Unity 2D? That graphical shell should have no problems with graphical support  as it does not use propriatary extensions
[20:13] <wolter> endeavormac, oh I thought you were looking for an IDE theme
[20:13] <D3RGPS31> How would I enable autologin for GDM :l
[20:14] <wolter> endeavormac, I only know themes for Gnome Classic, so can't help I'm afraid :p
[20:14] <tanath> Stereocaulon, unity doesn't load. the only reason i can do things is 'cause i have gnome-do and guake
[20:14] <Stereocaulon> D3RGPS31, are you sure you are using GDM, not LDM?
[20:14] <qmanjr5> Does Natty use Compiz?
[20:14] <guntbert> does anyone see the error in the command    find . ! -u x-press       (to find files not owned by x-press)?
[20:14] <D3RGPS31> Stereocaulon: i removed lightdm and installed gdm, so yes i'm sure
[20:14] <magik_> guntbert: my desktop picture , and the function for exit windows ...
[20:14] <endeavormac> wolter: can i get back to gnome classic in oneiric? things get a bit screwy when i tried it. maybe there's an easier way
[20:14] <schnuffle> rfm_: If you fail to use a usb stick, how about installing it with PXE boot?
[20:14] <Jopie> trying to install 11.10 on amd64 with the minimal CD. It fails however with "Couldn't download package libselinux1" Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[20:15] <guntbert> !panels | magik_ worth trying
[20:15] <wolter> endeavormac, I believe you can select your interface at the login screem
[20:15] <wolter> screen*
[20:15] <schnuffle> Jopie: missing network connection?
[20:15] <rfm_> schnuffle: I fail to see how that would be /less/ problematic
[20:15] <Jopie> schnuffle: Why does it get to 6 percent? seems to get all the other packages
[20:15] <jmichaelx> in kubuntu, i had cheese working fine in natty. after upgrading to oneiric, i noticed that images in cheese were less clear, and the colors were wrong. also, the cheese GUI would not adhere to my gtk theme settings. just now, i purged cheese, and reinstalled. no i am getting the message 'no device found'. ant suggestions?
[20:15] <Kingsy> how can I tweak gtk-window-decorator in xfce ?
[20:15] <tanath> Stereocaulon, i had it working at least partially at one point, but i forget which it was.
[20:15] <Stereocaulon> tanath, you might want to install lxde or xfce to get a light Gnome-like environment.
[20:15] <illmortal> anyone know how to fix the issue with ubuntu hanging @ startup? Or am I better off re-installing Ubuntu?
[20:15] <tanath> switched away though
[20:16] <endeavormac> wolter: yes, but now i can't move my taskbars aroudn
[20:16] <hse> hi everybody! I'm totally new to Ubuntu (11.10) and haven't got many experiences in Linux. Onereic is running on an Asus Eeepc here, and seems to work just fine. Problem: I want to install a Samsung printer driver. Got the tarball and extracted the files. I know that I'm supposed to start an "autorun" file. However, that requires root permissions, which I can't specify from the file folder. Windows has some option like "run as Administrat
[20:16] <magik_> guntbert: i dont have gnome-panel :/
[20:16] <schnuffle> rfm_: you don't need a usb stick and boot from the network card
[20:16] <hse> or", but that is absent in Ubuntu, isn't it? I also tried to sudo autorun, but that just asks for my password and then stops saying that autorun is an invalid command. So... any idea?
[20:16] <evilgeenius> I have just upgraded to the latest ubuntu and now my system won't boot unless I go into the recovery manager.  Is there a log file that records all the info I need to diagnose the problem or let others diagnose it?  Cheers
[20:16] <qmanjr5> In top, it says Compiz is using nearly 100% under the CPU column. Why is that?
[20:16] <tanath> Stereocaulon, enh, don't care for xfce. i'll stick with gnome classic 'til gnome shell works for now
[20:16] <Stereocaulon> tanath, you can add a parameter in Grub that switches off any graphical hardware accelaration
[20:16] <tanath> Stereocaulon, no way. then i prolly wouldn't be able to play minecraft
[20:16] <schnuffle> rfm_: you install a tftp/dhcp server on a windows machine and serve everything from there
[20:17] <Stereocaulon> tanath, no that's for sure ;-)
[20:17] <tanath> Stereocaulon, also, for some reason i can't get into grub on this laptop. don't get the chance
[20:17] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: nobody's asked me to specify, and I don't really know what there is to specify. The sound stopped working.
[20:17] <magik_> guntbert: well ? :S
[20:17] <maedox> Is there a way to change/remove the icon background on the sidebar launcher thingy?
[20:17] <guntbert> magik_: then I give up, apparently I cannot help - sorry (my system is in classic mode :-))
[20:17] <tanath> Stereocaulon, boots up pretty quickly, but there's just no opportunity
[20:18] <magik_> guntbert: =(
[20:18] <tanath> Stereocaulon, and too many other things to fix before focusing on that
[20:18] <rfm_> schnuffle: Okay so now I gave up on using rescue mode and just trying to reinstall, and it doesn't even try to search for packages locally and instead jumps straight to installing from network
[20:18] <qmanjr5> In top, it says Compiz is using nearly 100% under the CPU column. Why is that?
[20:18] <halcyonicstorm> ubuntu wont load on my desktop
[20:18] <magik_> guntbert: ok i will reinstall linux ... and for the futuro you say to use sudo -i .. not sudo su ?
[20:18] <endeavormac> in maverick it was pretty easy to change up my ubuntu theme. is there something similar in oneiric?
[20:19] <tanath> qmanjr5, dunno, but you might like htop better. also, try reloading compiz? you can use fusion-icon or run 'compiz --replace'
[20:19] <magik_> guntbert: future*
[20:19] <brownie> hello
[20:19] <schnuffle> rfm_: if you used the netinst CD thats logic
[20:19] <evilgeenius> Hello All!  Can anyone help me diagnose my ubuntu problem? Ubuntu won't boot up now that it has been upgraded to Ubuntu 10.10.
[20:19] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, the least you can do is tell us what you have already investigated. For instance, does your soundcard show up in lspci and if it does, does alsamixer start and can you control output volume with it. Do you get an error message when you tell Ubuntu to play a sound/ music?, That kind of things
[20:19] <guntbert> magik_: you rarely will need that command, usually a simple sudo <command> is enough
[20:19] <BlueProtoman> How can I have my new Android tablet show up (via USB to mini-USB connection) in UBuntu?
[20:20] <evilgeenius> The only way I can boot it is if I go into recovery mode.  Is there a log file I can look at?
[20:20] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: ok, I'll take a look
[20:20] <rfm_> schnuffle: I used ubuntu-10.04.3-server-i386.iso
[20:20] <illmortal> anyone know how to fix the battery state issue? Where ubuntu hangs @ startup?
[20:20] <magik_> guntbert: and if i want to start nautilus ?
[20:20] <guntbert> magik_: but before reinstalling you could try to ask the channel once again, naybe someone else has a good answer
[20:20] <halcyonicstorm> i am using WUBI to install ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop and it is not loading after
[20:20] <guntbert> *maybe
[20:20] <schnuffle> rfm_: that will install a base system and everything on top is installed through the network
[20:20] <Stereocaulon> tanath, a command shell is enough to reconfigure grub2 to pause the startup screen for a while so you can take action
[20:20] <Jopie> What exactly is on the minimal cd? I don't get past 6% but it gets all kinds of packages. Are those actually coming from a mirror? Libselinux1 fails
[20:21] <magik_> guntbert: ok but if i want to use nautilus ?
[20:21] <tanath> Stereocaulon, hm?
[20:21] <schnuffle> rfm_: I don't see why it is a problem that it looks for repositories
[20:21] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: It shows up in lspci. alsamixer starts, and shows 100 for everything except Headphone and Speaker which are 0 and can't change
[20:21] <evilgeenius> Sorry, its 11.10
[20:21] <qmanjr5> tanath, htop is confusing ._.
[20:21] <guntbert> magik_: for graphical apps always use gksudo/kdesu  (not sure if that exists in xubuntu) ,and you almost never need to run nautilus as root
[20:22] <schnuffle> rfm_: during the installation it's normal that it checks updates from the repos
[20:22] <Jopie> schnuffle: Tried several times now, always stops at libselinux1, but can't imagine that's the first package it downloads (minimal cd)
[20:22] <tanath> qmanjr5, if you can handle top you can handle htop. it's clearer than top to me...
[20:22] <magik_> does anybody knows why i losed my toolblars on linux and my desktop picture ? :S
[20:22] <qmanjr5> :P Also, I did compiz --replace
[20:22] <magik_> guntbert: ok thanks =)
[20:22] <BlueProtoman> How can I have my new Android tablet show up (via USB to mini-USB connection) in UBuntu?	
[20:22] <qmanjr5> and now it's not giving me a prompt for commands
[20:22] <tanath> qmanjr5, it's just a little different. take a moment to get used to it?
[20:22] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: no error when playing a sound with Banshee. It just plays but I can't hear anything
[20:22] <guntbert> magik_: Good luck :-)
[20:22] <evilgeenius> Does anyone know if there is a log file that ubuntu adds all boot up errors too?
[20:23] <qmanjr5> can I safely close the terminal window?
[20:23] <schnuffle> Jopie: you mean during the install?
[20:23] <Bragex9> what is the command to run "file explorer" in 11.10?
[20:23] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, OK, that's a start. The Speaker channel is for lowfi speaker bleeps anyway, so that should not be a problem.
[20:23] <tanath> qmanjr5, kind of... if you ran it in terminal then you'll kill compiz when you close it.
[20:23] <schnuffle> evilgeenius: dmseg
[20:23] <Jopie> schnuffle: yes, install just quits after failing to downlaod libselinux1 during install from minimal cd
[20:23] <tanath> qmanjr5, run 'compiz --replace' in the alt+f2 dialog
[20:23] <guntbert> Bragex9: nautilus ?
[20:24] <robin0800> IsmAvatar, have you installed codecs
[20:24] <schnuffle> evilgeenius: sorry dmesg
[20:24] <evilgeenius> schnuffle: thanks!
[20:24] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, can you restart pulseaudio?
[20:24] <IsmAvatar> robin0800: what codecs would I need to install?
[20:24] <magik_> guntbert: thanks =) and one more quest when i reinstall it how can i make the linux to mount the particiones with the start of it ? =)
[20:24] <schnuffle> Im off for a while, good luck all of you
[20:24] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: ok. Just `service pulseaudio restart`?
[20:24] <paladinlaw> im getting black screen while booting and i cant access the recovery mode because im getting black screen there too. Im using livecd now. Can i uninstall nvidia current update from my harddrive because thats why im getting black screen?
[20:24] <evilgeenius> schnuffle: so all the error messages that appear when ubuntu boots up will be added to dmesg?
[20:25] <TehAndrewRyan> hey, my computer still shows 11.04 as the latest version when i'm checking the update manager, how comes?
[20:25] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, no, Pulse should run in user space, try pulseaudio -k
[20:25] <magik_> guntbert: do you know ?
[20:25] <robin0800> IsmAvatar, depends what you are trying to play mp3 perhaps
[20:25] <Bragex9> guntbert: nautilus won't open... A message says " could not parse arguments: can not open screen"
[20:25] <guntbert> magik_: I don't understand your question - what do you want to do?
[20:26] <qmanjr5> tanath, I closed the terminal....
[20:26] <IsmAvatar> robin0800: Any audio. Haven't tried mp3, but flac and youtube videos.
[20:26] <qmanjr5> I could do nothing. XD
[20:26] <auronandace> !fstab | magik_
[20:26] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: no output, so I guess it succeeded
[20:26] <Stereocaulon> robin0800, playing MP3 without a codec should produce an error message, it should not just stay silent
[20:26] <guntbert> Bragex9: do you have no Xwindow system?
[20:26] <tanath> qmanjr5, if you want to run a command in terminal in background, append a & to the end. then you get terminal control back
[20:26] <wolter> endeavormac, now that I remember, I think that if you install the gnome-panel you can use Gnome Classic
[20:26] <magik_> guntbert: sry for my english i ask i want when i start linux the particiones to mount automatic ^^
[20:26] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, yes, that's how linux works. Try pulseaudio --check
[20:26] <zeep55> Where can I locate files downloaded from the Ubuntu Software Center?
[20:26] <naftilos76> hi i just installed gnome-shell in ubuntu 11.10 and when i double click on nautilus icon, nautilus runs but the icons on the desktop disappear. Has anyone experienced this?
[20:26] <magik_> auronandace: i know i dont know what i have to write :/
[20:27] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: no output again
[20:27] <wolter> endeavormac, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/gnome-shell-ubuntu-11-10-guide/
[20:27] <qmanjr5> tanath, Thank you very much. So it would've been compiz --replace&
[20:27] <tanath> qmanjr5, also, dunno if you got it, but i said to run 'compiz --replace' in the alt+f2 dialog so you don't get a terminal you can't close
[20:27] <guntbert> magik_: usually they do that anyway - else look at what ubottu told you above
[20:27] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, ok, now proceed with pulseaudio -D
[20:27] <rfm_> how long should mke2fs take btw
[20:27] <endeavormac> thanks wolter
[20:27] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: Daemon startup failed.
[20:27] <robin0800> IsmAvatar, install pauvcontrol and see what it says for engines etc
[20:28] <tanath> qmanjr5, also, install the fusion-icon app and it can reload or switch WM for you
[20:28] <s5fs> Just upgraded to 11.10. I have some symlinks in /usr/local/bin that used to work from the alt-f2 launcher, but now it seems this doesn't work. How do I alter the search path for the launcher?
[20:28] <magik_> ok
[20:28] <IsmAvatar> robin0800: unable to locate package pauvcontrol?
[20:28] <Bragex9> guntbert: I am not sure what you mean with xwindow system, My problem is that the desktop will not open after installing 11.10. I type my password, the screen goes black for a second and then I am back at the login box again
[20:28] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, we're getting somewhere now, now we know that Pulseaudio is indeed not working properly.
[20:29] <wolter> endeavormac, no problem; once in gnome classic, the black dust theme is nice
[20:29] <naftilos76> it seems that for gnome 3 to function properly a clean install must take place otherwise i don't see much light...
[20:30] <guntbert> !nomodeset | Bragex9: I was asking about that
[20:30] <robin0800> IsmAvatar, install pauvcontrol sorry spelling
[20:30] <naftilos76> F3 on nautilus does not work. anyone experienced this?
[20:31] <IsmAvatar> robin0800: you just spelled it the same way again
[20:31] <paladinlaw> im getting black screen while booting and i cant access the recovery mode because im getting black screen there too. Im using livecd now. Can i uninstall nvidia current update from my harddrive because thats why im getting black screen?
[20:31] <robin0800> IsmAvatar, install pavucontrol sorry spelling
[20:31] <IsmAvatar> lol
[20:31] <illmortal> hmm... wonder if saving my Nvidia settings onto the xorg.conf might be the culprit to why my system hangs now
[20:31] <IsmAvatar> there we go
[20:31] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, it's called pavucontrol, nat pauvcontrol
[20:32] <IsmAvatar> thanks, he spelled it right eventually ^_^
[20:32] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, robin0800, indeed
[20:33] <daniel__> does anyone have any tips for hunting down processes that are taking up all my cpu and killing them? i tried system monitor (seems to be chrome that is slowing) but only a reboot seems to solve my issues
[20:33] <Stereocaulon> daniel__, try running top
[20:34] <IsmAvatar> robin0800 and Stereocaulon: pavucontrol shows a volume control that seems to show everything correct and at 100%. Digital is all set up. When I play something, the little equilizer bar at the bottom bounces around.
[20:34] <armence> Hello all. I am trying to configure xmonad+gnome2 on ubuntu 11.10 and I cannot get it to work. I get an error: "xmonad failed to load" (or something similar) whenever I try to login... Can I get some help with the configuration?
[20:34] <IsmAvatar> still not hearing anything though
[20:34] <daniel__> Stereocaulon: top?
[20:35] <Stereocaulon> daniel__, you can use the [i] key, to filter out inactive processes, so you can zero into the active processes, and kill them (if needed be) with k
[20:35] <Andres__> guys, how do I save changes in VIM?
[20:35] <naftilos76> Has anyone tried split-view in gnome shell? mine shuts down nautilus! Anyone?
[20:35] <vlt> Hello. What command can I use to shutdown the PC? I want to do the same as clicking on shutdown logged in as ordinary user. Any idea?
[20:35] <Stereocaulon> Andres__, ZZ
[20:35] <daniel__> ok thanks Stereocaulon
[20:35] <Andres__> q!?
[20:35] <Andres__> ohh
[20:35] <Andres__> alright
[20:35] <Andres__> thanks
[20:35] <Stereocaulon> Andres__, [Esc] ZZ
[20:35] <FloodBot1> Andres__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <s5fs> What is the search path for Alt+F2 and how can I change it?
[20:36] <Stereocaulon> s5fs, Your search path for Alt+F2 is defined by your global PATH variable
[20:36] <guntbert> vlt: sudo halt
[20:36] <johnjohn101> is there anyway to change the theme in unity?  or is background it?    on 11.10
[20:36] <IsmAvatar> robin0800: I do get 2 lines of output: ** (pavucontrol:6850): DEBUG: Error reading config file /home/ismavatar/.config/pavucontrol.ini: No such file or directory \n ** (pavucontrol:6850): DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager extension: No such extension
[20:36] <vlt> guntbert: I want to do it as a user, not sudo.
[20:36] <IsmAvatar> but they look like they might be harmless
[20:37] <Andres__> wow.... again... "vncconfig: unable to open display "" "
[20:37] <Milena> hi all,can pulse audio equalizer be install in 11.10 ?
[20:37] <KSHawkEye> After updating my Ubuntu to 11.10 on virtualbox and now it will not boot past the Ubuntu boot loading screen. Any ideas?
[20:37] <Stereocaulon> johnjohn101, you can right click on your desktop, to set a new background
[20:37] <guntbert> vlt: no way, an ordinary user should not be able to do that
[20:37] <illmortal> yes milena..  why?
[20:37] <naftilos76> vlt: sudo halt
[20:37] <yeats> Andres__: alternately you can do ':w' to save ':wq' to save and quit
[20:37] <illmortal> That was one of the first apps I installed
[20:38] <vlt> guntbert: When I click on “shutdown” as oridnary user I’m allowed to do it.
[20:38] <Creap> Hi, I had 2 disks in Software RAID in a previous install (openSUSE), just installed Kubuntu 11.10 and not sure how to mount them
[20:38] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, it sounds like pulse is connected to the wrong alsa sink.
[20:38] <Milena> illmortal:) i did this =http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/954-add-equalizer-for-pulse-audio-in-ubuntu-lucid-lynx
[20:38] <Creap> There's no option to mount in the partition manager
[20:38] <Creap> for those disks
[20:38] <Andres__> yeats: thanks
[20:38] <danopia> what happens between when i click suspends and when ubuntu actually suspends 30 seconds later? during those 30 seconds there's disk I/O but i can unlock the screen and keep using it until it finally suspends for real
[20:38] <Milena> illmortal:) but it wont display the gui
[20:39] <vlt> naftilos76: I want to do it as a user, not sudo. The same as clicking on “shutdown”, just on command line.
[20:39] <guntbert> vlt: true, but what is your issue with using sudo?
[20:39] <illmortal> milena... interesting. I installed both pulseaudio and alsamixer from the ubuntu store thingy
[20:39] <endeavormac> wolter: i'm fighting my way through this oneiric stuff. i have this weird ubuntu taskbar on one of my monitors (I don't know if you use dual monitors). if so, any idea how to remove it?
[20:40] <s5fs> Stereocaulon: I have symlinks to shorten app names (ie, gt = gnome-terminal) in /usr/local/bin (which is in my PATH) but I cannot launch them with Alt+F2. This did work in 11.04, any ideas?
[20:40] <vlt> guntbert: 1) A non-sudo user should be able to do it. 2) Without entering passwd.
[20:40] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: ok, how can we hook it up to the right one? lol
[20:40] <jumpin-jack-flas> How does one use Gnome3 with the 11.10 amd64 desktop LiveCD?
[20:40] <Milena> illmortal:) i havnt install anything that has to do with alsa on my ubuntu yet,,,what did you install,,mabe thats the reason
[20:40] <guntbert> vlt: why?
[20:40] <vlt> guntbert: To just shutdown the system.
[20:41] <vlt> guntbert: More important than why is how?
[20:41] <Stereocaulon> s5fs, no, sorry about that, I am no expert on Oneiric. Only using it since yesterday.
[20:41] <guntbert> vlt: yes, but why without sudo?
[20:41] <Milena> does anyone has any idea hot to change the ubuntu 11.10 shortcuts bar on the left,,to the right ?
[20:41] <dajhorn> Creap: Install the mdadm package, which is required to mount a soft RAID device.  Ubuntu does not install it by default.
[20:41] <vlt> guntbert: 1) A non-sudo user should be able to do it. 2) Without entering passwd.
[20:42] <endeavormac> can someone tell me how i can get rid of this weird panel in gnome classic? http://imgur.com/7C58d
[20:42] <Creap> dajhorn: ok thanks I'll try that
[20:42] <vlt> I want the same thing that can easily be sone by clicking “shutdown”. That’ſ all.
[20:42] <ryano> is "shutdown" not a safe way to do it?
[20:42] <guntbert> vlt: thats no reason (in my eyes), where is the problem in entering your password?
[20:42] <Meshezabeel> endeavormac: I am confused as to what the red lines are pointing at
[20:43] <vlt> guntbert: 1) A non-sudo user should be able to do it.
[20:43] <jumpin-jack-flas> How does one use Gnome3 with the 11.10 amd64 desktop LiveCD?
[20:43] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, just a sec, it's been a long time since I had to configure a low level setting like sinks
[20:43] <endeavormac> meshezabeel that whole top panel
[20:43] <guntbert> vlt: no
[20:43] <krashed> mmmm, does anyone have any idea on what could be causing THIS, a friend of mine ran into a snag on updating from 9.04 to 10.04 and her dropdowns arent working
[20:43] <krashed> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45385983/IMAG0296.jpg
[20:43] <dibs> is there an upgrade channel?
[20:43] <IsmAvatar> Take your time ;-)
[20:43] <Meshezabeel> endeavormac: oh, it's not a weird pannel, it's supposed to be there
[20:44] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: Enable the universe section in the Software Manager, install the gnome-shell package, logout, choose GNOME at the session manager, and login again.
[20:44] <endeavormac> meshezabeel ok, but how do i get rid of it?
[20:44] <Meshezabeel> endeavormac: you can right-click on it, go to properties, and select auto-hide
[20:44] <dibs> if upgrading and servers are slow, is it safe to stop upgrade and try another day?
[20:44] <PunkUnity> i would like help please
[20:44] <PunkUnity> with getting my wireless mouse working
[20:44] <vlt> guntbert: Excuse me, which question was your “no” for?
[20:44] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: thanks
[20:44] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: Welcome.
[20:44] <PunkUnity> jumpin-jack-flas when you login click the little cog/gears symbol near your login area, select gnome
[20:44] <yeats> vlt: shutting down is traditionally (in Unix/Linux) something only root can do - by design.  You could probably set up a group that has that permission (if one doesn't already exist), but the short answer is 'is doesn't work that way'
[20:44] <endeavormac> meshezabeel i can't right click on it, and i don't want to hide it, i would like it gone
[20:45] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, could you tell me how the screen alsamixergui looks to you (it's rather ugly, but bear with me ;-) )
[20:45] <guntbert> vlt: it was for your statement that a non-sudo user should be able to shut down the system
[20:45] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: gotta install it first, moment
[20:45] <dajhorn> krashed: That looks like a known bug in the compiz package.  Do a search like "lucid compiz video corruption" at Launchpad
[20:45] <Meshezabeel> endeavormac: why can't you right click on it? when you right-click there's also an option that says "delete this panel"
[20:46] <Guest77046> How do i get help with ubuntu 11.10? i recently updated from ubuntu studio and the unity desktop is blank and leaves me practically helpless
[20:46] <domedagen> I get this error message when I try to install the Yet It Moves 64 demo. http://pastebin.com/iGFT4e96
[20:46] <guntbert> Guest77046: this is the right place
[20:46] <illmortal> i give up... ill just clean install ubuntu. If it hangs again.. good riddance 11.10, back to 11.04 i go.
[20:46] <TheCowboy> In a dual monitor setup, is there a way to force the windows that open or popup to display on the active monitor?
[20:46] <domedagen> Should I ignore and install?
[20:46] <vlt> yeats, guntbert Every user on my machine can (switch it on and) easily shut it down just by clicking with his mouse. So, not allowing it on command line isn’t a security thing then, righ?
[20:46] <vlt> *right?
[20:46] <yeats> dibs: it's not safe to stop the upgrade
[20:46] <domedagen> I'm using the GUI way btw
[20:46] <TheCowboy> Windows keep popping up on the opposite monitors.
[20:46] <Meshezabeel> endeavormac: if you want anything more advanced than that as in removing all panels, you can do a google search on the steps involved
[20:47] <dibs> yeats: thankyou, I wish I hadn't started now, 9 hours to go??
[20:47] <Stereocaulon> TheCowboy, depends on your screen setup. I can only assist you with nVidia cards
[20:47] <PCmechanic> i had issues upgrading ubuntu studio - ended up booting from the live cd, rescuing the home folder then just installed normal Ubuntu 11.10 - then tweaked it to suit
[20:47] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: ok, I'm seeing "Card: PulseAudio | Chip: PulseAudio" at the top. Inside, I see a Master and a Capture, both have full bars initially.
[20:47] <TheCowboy> Stereocaulon, ah, thanks, but it's an ATI chipset in this laptop.
[20:47] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: I don't see a universe section ... No items in Universal Access match "gnome-shell"
[20:47] <dibs> TheCowboy: my nvidia dual pops them on the screen the mouse is on usually
[20:48] <yeats> dibs: hopefully it will clear up soon.  For future upgrades, consider choosing an alternate mirror
[20:48] <Stereocaulon> TheCowboy, good luck :-)
[20:48] <guntbert> vlt: no, a GUI user is likely to sit in front of the computer, a terminal user can be anywhere
[20:48] <TheCowboy> I think Ill need it
[20:48] <dajhorn> domedagen: You have a dud DEB file.  Only force installation if you trust where you got the package.
[20:48] <nazo_> So I have a 11.10 question:  how do I change my default soundcard?  (Specifically it looks like I need to change it for ALSA?)
[20:48] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, this will sound strange. Please decrease both master bars to about halfway and try to play a sound again
[20:48] <Gargoylle> have a good night or day. I'm of. need sleep. work tomorrow.
[20:48] <dibs> yeats: True, I thought I would auto use the New Zeland mirror, perhaps even out here in new Zeland loads of people are updating? it is sunday mornign so could be I guess..
[20:49] <Andres__> another question... It says do you want to continue, for something, i input Y and it says abort
[20:49] <Gargoylle> backup backup backup.
[20:49] <Stereocaulon> Gargoylle, sweet dreams
[20:49] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: Universal Access is something different.  Run the Software Center, and look for "Software Sources" in the menus.  The option for "universe" is under the "Ubuntu Software" tab in the "Software Sources" dialog.
[20:49] <Meshezabeel> endeavormac: you could also remove it using gconf-editor
[20:49] <yeats> dibs: the weekend after a release will definitely be busier than most
[20:49] <lordhedgie> Got a question here...  Was upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10, and halfway through replacing packages it kernel panicked.  Going to reinstall from a CD; will my encrypted home directories be OK, or should I first manually back them up with a boot disk?
[20:49] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: it decreased my general sound to half (in the applet indicator), but I still hear nothing.
[20:49] <Andres__> nvm
[20:49] <pondera> !nbe
[20:49] <Andres__> --assume yes does the job
[20:49] <Gargoylle> stereocaulon thanks. I'll have nightmares with unity. :P
[20:49] <bazhang> !une | pondera
[20:50] <domedagen> dajhorn: So I go tar.gz instead? I'm using the dev website so I can trust any file
[20:50] <lucasm> Hey, does anybody know if it's possible to make your own launchers in Unity?
[20:50] <Meshezabeel> lordhedgie: it's always best to do a file backup before any distro upgrade, so yes, do a backup :)
[20:50] <dajhorn> domedagen: Yes, it would be better to do a local install with the tarball.   Don't force a broken package.
[20:50] <vlt> guntbert: But even from terminal I could just run some xdo (or what it is called) commands to shut it down. So, why so complicated?
[20:50] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, strange, well I guess it's time to compare our Alsa configs then...Could you please pastebin your alsa config file?
[20:50] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: software center has All Software and Installed ... neither has a source called "universe"
[20:50] <yeats> lucasm: search for "Main Menu" in the Unity search bar
[20:50] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: location?
[20:51] <lordhedgie> Meshezabeel - Yes, I know I *should*, but I also know my data is still happily sitting there.  Wondering if its necessary or just a backup measure.
[20:51] <grafton24> Hi
[20:51] <lordhedgie> It's several hundred megabytes, and it was backed up about a month ago, so it's not a total loss in any case
[20:51] <tom_afterburn> hello could someone help me with google earth please
[20:51] <lucasm> yeats, thanks!
[20:51] <grafton24> Is this the place for a sort of newbie question whose answer I can't find anywhere?
[20:51] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: they both have "Provided by Ubuntu" "Canonical Partners" and "For Purchase"
[20:51] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: Click Edit -> Software Sources in that program.
[20:51] <pondera> Hey guys im trying to find a legit verson of the netbook ubuntu
[20:52] <tuxsudo> Hi, its my first time on the IRC so please be patient, I seem to be experiencing graphics problems every time after I play a movie in full screen with movie player, the gnome-panel freezes and soon all windows freeze forcing me to do a brute shutdown of the system, I am using an Internal Intel Graphics Chipset
[20:52] <dibs> yeats: What folders should I back up besides my home one? Just worried of a possible upgrade failure now..
[20:52] <PunkUnity> i would like some help
[20:52] <yeats> pondera: there's not a netbook version any more
[20:52] <PCmechanic> Naz0 - open terminal and type "sudo alsamixer"
[20:52] <AlienDogFear> pondera: Why?
[20:52] <I4got2tellU> hi all
[20:52] <lordhedgie> @pondera -- There is no longer a separate netbook Ubuntu.  Unless you want an older version, there's just one
[20:52] <PunkUnity> someone let me know when i can get soem of that expertise
[20:52] <KBentley57> hey guys, does anyone know how to change the desktop effects? I'd like to change the effects so that the 2d windows don't tear so much across the screen
[20:52] <vlt> guntbert: Found it: “xdotool” is its name.
[20:52] <Meshezabeel> lordhedgie: depends how much of a gambling person you are, in 99.9% of the cases you will be fine, but there are always glitches that can take place.
[20:52] <pondera> for my netbook
[20:52] <henchman24> maybe some special configs in /etc/ that you might want to save
[20:52] <nazo_> I've used the alsamixer already, but it doesn't actually change the default
[20:52] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: there doesn't seem to be any way to Edit
[20:52] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, Oh my, Ubuntu 11.10 seems to have changed the path of the config files...
[20:52] <PCmechanic> ah right
[20:52] <Riberty> what is the glowing bar on the bottom of gnome3 when i hoover my mouse on the bottom right corner?
[20:52] <pondera> mabe ill do the light ubuntu
[20:53] <pondera> whats it call ubuntu lx or something ?
[20:53] <jumpin-jack-flas> And why does thst bar on the left keep hiding itself?
[20:53] <ryano> lubuntu
[20:53] <yeats> dibs: you should back up (regularly) anyway, especially before an upgrade - so yes - I would try to back up my files/settings if I were you
[20:53] <henchman24> like i have a very special  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:53] <lordhedgie> @Meshezabeel - I'm a gambler alright, but if a CD install won't recognize the old encrypted home then I'd go ahead and manually back it up with a boot disk.
[20:53] <AlienDogFear> Pondera: I'm installing 11.10 on my netbook now; the LTS and 11.04 ran just fine on it. I'm betting 11.10 will be okay, too.
[20:53] <bazhang> pondera, lubuntu
[20:53] <PunkUnity> <---being a noob right now and wants to que up foor some help
[20:53] <yeats> dibs: sounds like you've got plenty of time to do it ;-)
[20:53] <PunkUnity> *puts quartes on to pool table*
[20:53] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: I don't understand.  Did you get an error message?  On the default tab, it is the second checkbox from the top:  "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)"
[20:53] <Andres__> is there any linux baised server that comes with a GUi>
[20:53] <KM0201> !lubuntu | pondera the best ubuntu derivative in a long time
[20:53] <tom_afterburn> PunkUnity, what is your question
[20:53] <dibs> yeats: true that brother, true that :)
[20:54] <PunkUnity> oh why ty
[20:54] <grafton24> Can I get in line behind PunkUnity?
[20:54] <PunkUnity> it is about getting my wireless mouse to work on 11.10
[20:54] <henchman24> or /etc/fstab for a guidling for next install
[20:54] <lordhedgie> @Andres - Ubuntu?
[20:54] <wolter> I am getting a persistent error while trying to create my installation usb, "Checksums do not match"
[20:54] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, yet more troubleshooting, please tell me the output of /proc/asound/version and /proc/asound/cards
[20:54] <henchman24> guidline*
[20:54] <tom_afterburn> i haven't ever used a wireless mouse sorry
[20:54] <brian6705> I'm having some odd difficulty trying to upgrade to 11.10. I go into update manager and click on "Upgrade" on the top.  It runs through "Downloading the release upgrade tool" and then says "preparing to upgrade" it downloads a bunch and then just disappears.  It doesn't get to any other steps.  Guesses?
[20:54] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: sorry ... xterm was keeping the menu hidden
[20:54] <nazo_> I tried using asoundconf-gtk ("Default Sound Card" in the software center, but it relies on asoundconf, which no longer exists.  I searched around and on ALSA's site there is a FAQ that explains how to configure the default using /etc/asound.conf  and/or ~/.asoundrc, but these files not only don't already exist, but after I manually create them to say what the FAQ describes, nothing happens even after rebooting.
[20:55] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: this Unity desktop is horrible
[20:55] <lordhedgie> @tom_afterburn -- Should work same as any other mouse.  What's happening?
[20:55] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas:  Try Xubuntu.
[20:55] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: pastebinning, moment
[20:55] <PunkUnity> i have a laptop
[20:55] <PunkUnity> and need help making this mouse work
[20:55] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: I only d/led and burned one CD and am not going back to the office until Monday
[20:55] <yeats> brian6705: have you backed up your files/settings?
[20:55] <PunkUnity> ive plugged in the usb reciiever, and even hit the connect button
[20:55] <Meshezabeel> lordhedgie: you need to use the same username and password, and I know on older install cds there was an option that said "automatically decrypt" on that screen as well.
[20:55] <brian6705> No, I don't think I've ever done a real backup
[20:56] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, if you are pastebinning, please also add the outpu of /proc/asound/devices
[20:56] <nazo_> I'm getting the impression that ALSA maybe has changed to not use those files anymore?
[20:56] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: You need an Internet connection to install GNOME 3.  If you downloaded the ISO with Unity, then you're stuck.
[20:56] <tom_afterburn> PunkUnty: have you tried mouse on another computer
[20:56] <g[r]eek> Hi. I'm watching a 6.6gb mkv HD movie with the default Ubuntu movie player, and after about 10 minutes it starts to stutter and goes out of sync. What are my options? It's a ThinkPad R61i with 2gb ram
[20:56] <m3asmi> how can I enable compiz effect
[20:56] <yeats> brian6705: time to do it ;-) - then try running 'update-manager' from the terminal to see if there are any error messages
[20:56] <lordhedgie> @PunkUnity - I've never had a wireless mouse not automatically work, and they're all I use on laptops.  What mouse is it?
[20:56] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: http://pastebin.com/SJ8qQ46L
[20:56] <PunkUnity> ya i cant get it to work on my gf's new windows 7 machine either,but windows and me are like nah
[20:56] <IsmAvatar> shoulda made that ls -F
[20:56] <brian6705> yeats, ok.  I'll give that a try
[20:57] <PunkUnity> it used ot always work on my deskto
[20:57] <lordhedgie> Bad mouse?
[20:57] <lordhedgie> Take away its cheese.
[20:57] <PunkUnity> Logitech Laser
[20:57] <robin0800> nazo_, in usr/share/applications is a multimedia systems selector might help
[20:57] <Stereocaulon> It seems you have 2 soundcards, that will complicate matters a bit.
[20:57] <PunkUnity> must be bad notw i guess... it turns on and everthhing
[20:57] <nazo_> By any chance do you know the name of it?
[20:57] <PunkUnity> maybe the batt is low
[20:57] <D_Russ> anyone know of a way to have larger thumbnails in the file explorer. when adding a desktop wallpaper not particularly convenient to click through all the picture to find one i like.
[20:57] <dajhorn> g[r]eek: A quick and easy fix would be to try a different media player.  Visit http://www.medibuntu.org
[20:57] <whitemagic> can anyone recommend a theme manager for ubuntu 11.10 x64?
[20:58] <g[r]eek> dajhorn, I tried vlc and that's out of sync to begin with and after a while it too stutters
[20:58] <whitemagic> i see several in the software center..
[20:58] <Koshka> What's the command run to Additional Drivers?
[20:58] <brian6705> yeats, also, I just rememebred.  When i initially go into update manager it pops up a message saying "Not all updates can be installed" "Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible"
[20:58] <PunkUnity> theme manager.... hmm... i like this faenza one
[20:58] <yeats> Koshka: 'jockey-gtk' probably
[20:58] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, do you have any idea what Ubuntu might detect as a USB sound device?
[20:58] <tom_afterburn> PunkUnity: if it won't work on 2 different pcs your mouse is probably broken
[20:58] <whitemagic> i thought faenza was like a 'super theme' (which other themes were derived from)
[20:58] <dajhorn> g[r]eek: Do you have another mkv file that you can try?  There is a chance that your video file is a dud.
[20:58] <whitemagic> i'll def. try it out tho
[20:58] <g[r]eek> dajhorn, everything runs smoothly initially but then it's as if my laptop runs out of memory or something. Perhaps there is a really powerful buffer-ahead movie player?
[20:58] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: I have an internet connection ... I'm not on IRC with my antenna on my head. ;)
[20:58] <PunkUnity> im officially sad
[20:58] <PunkUnity> ty tom-afterburn
[20:58] <g[r]eek> dajhorn, nah the file is fine. All my 6gb hd mkv's do this, and they work fine on my work pc
[20:59] <deerdancer> is there an official gnome shell channel?
[20:59] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: But I didn't bring any CDs home and am on wireless.
[20:59] <tuxsudo> any help, Ubuntu 10.11 freezes after playing a movie in full screen using movie player, i'm using an Intel Graphics Card
[20:59] <Raven187> question: what is wrong with banshee? take long time to queue from a server, and locks up after playing a few songs from queue. never used to do this .
[20:59] <yeats> brian6705: not sure why that would be - could be because the upgrade was interrupted
[20:59] <bock> Do I still need the alternate installation CD to encrypt my HDD?
[20:59] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: Heh.  You'd be surprised at what some people do an assume.  ;)
[20:59] <whitemagic> god, i cannot believe how pretty ubuntu has become
[20:59] <brian6705> yeats, hmm ok.  I'll run in the terminal and see how that goes.  Thanks!
[20:59] <whitemagic> 11.10 is much better looking than 11.4, which, itself, was a massive improvement
[20:59] <yeats> brian6705: good luck ;-)
[20:59] <m3asmi> how can I enable compiz effect in ubuntu 11.10
[20:59] <whitemagic> i used to be a unity hater.. i'm slowly becoming a convert
[21:00] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: I'm not sure what you mean by your question. When I first plugged my speakers in, the Ubuntu Sound Settings (from the applet) showed it as an option, but defaulted to Analog, but once I switched it to Digital, it played - until I upgraded to oneiric.
[21:00] <whitemagic> m3asmi, it's within the system settings.. lemme look it up for u
[21:00] <bazhang> !ot | whitemagic
[21:00] <Stereocaulon> whitemagic, yes it *is* pretty, but I am a bit worried about usability and configurability
[21:00] <whitemagic> sorry bazhang, thanks for letting me know
[21:00] <ajf> bash says it can't find a file yet it's clearly in the directory
[21:00] <Vampire> I found my grep versions differ that may be half of the issue
[21:00] <ajf> ./kaillerasrv
[21:00] <Koshka> On 11.10, is "post-release updates" newer/stabler on ATI/AMD proprietary drivers or vice-versa?
[21:00] <ajf> "-bash: ./kaillerasrv: No such file or directory"
[21:00] <ajf> help!
[21:00] <dajhorn> g[r]eek: If mplayer and/or VLC and/or Totem are all busted, then check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/syslog for error messages.
[21:00] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: After 9 years in Linux nothing surprises me.
[21:00] <jax> m3asmi: just install compiz settings manager from software centre
[21:00] <nazo_> Really, if I have a "multimedia systems selector" app, I haven't a clue where it is.  Just to be clear though, I'd really rather continue using an actual server like PulseAudio if possible, I just want everything to use the correct soundcard.  Unfortunately, atm all I can do is force things to use ALSA and specify which soundcard where this is possible.
[21:00] <Raven187> question: what is wrong with banshee? take long time to queue from a server, and locks up after playing a few songs from queue. never used to do this .
[21:01] <g[r]eek> dajhorn, ok thanks
[21:01] <m3asmi> jax: I installed it but the effect doesn't work
[21:01] <yeats> ajf:  can you pastebin the output of 'ls' from the directory you're currently in?
[21:01] <Vampire> ji
[21:01] <ryano> -
[21:01] <xgt001> fglrx-updates package contains catalyst 11.8 or 11.9?
[21:02] <jax> m3asmi: what gfx card u got?
[21:02] <dajhorn> g[r]eek: Welcome.  (Good luck, you've got a frustrating kind of problem.)
[21:02] <m3asmi> jax: intel
[21:02] <Vampire> I found my grep versions differ that may be half of the issue
[21:02] <domedagen> dajhorn: So how would I install the 64bit tar.gz seen here http://www.andyetitmoves.net/index.php?content=demo ? Usually there is some kind of executable when I've extracted
[21:02] <yeats> !who | Vampire
[21:02] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, well /proc/asound/cards shows up two devices, one of them being designated USB audio, the other one NVidia/ HDA-Intel. I happen to have a HDA-Intel chipset myself
[21:02] <frxstrem> is it possible to find the location of an ext4 filesystem on a hard drive when it is not located on a proper partition, and recover it?
[21:02] <lamccat> hi, can anyone tell me how to change my theme in ubunta blackbox
[21:02] <ajf> yeats: yes
[21:02] <ai9371> yay new ubuntu
[21:03] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[21:03] <jumpin-jack-flas> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:03] <nazo_> It seems to me like a problem has rather fallen between the cracks here.  asoundconf is gone and if ALSA has even changed how it actually configures such things (since neither asound.conf nor .asoundrc seem to do anything at all) without even updating their Wiki page, no one has any way to change their default soundcard...
[21:03] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: any suggestion?
[21:03] <ajf> yeats: kaillerasrv kaillerasrv.conf kaillerasrv.txt
[21:03] <whitemagic> m3asmi: i cannot find the 11.04 settings in 11.10 for  compiz..
[21:03] <xgt001> fglrx-updates package contains catalyst 11.8 or 11.9?
[21:03] <span89> Hello all.
[21:03] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: I gave it the universe setting ... I'll fool around with it some more ... maybe remove all other sources.
[21:03] <D_Russ> is there any nautilis plugins that allow me to resize image thumbnails when accessing them from any application such ad gimp, or inkscape?
[21:03] <whitemagic> m3asmi: you would have to look up which package to install to access those settings in an easy way
[21:03] <lamccat> hi, can anyone tell me how to change my theme in ubunta blackbox
[21:03] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: if it helps any: 00:08.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1)
[21:03] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: Disable the CD-ROM source in the Software Sources panel.  (You won't use the CD again if you have a working Internet connection.)
[21:04] <Raven187> question: what is wrong with banshee? take long time to queue from a server, and locks up after playing a few songs from queue. never used to do this .
[21:04] <yeats> ajf: can you pastebin the output of 'ls -l'? (use http://paste.ubuntu.com/)
[21:04] <Vampire> !tab)
[21:04] <ajf> yeats: OK
[21:04] <span89> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and my wireless card is not working. It's a Broadcom BCM 5751 on a Dell Latitude D610.
[21:04] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, follow the conversation with nazo__, he/ she is definitely talking about something that might help you as well
[21:04] <lImIton> I've just instaled 11.10 and I get no devices to calibrate/profile in gnome "Color" but in the live cd i could't see my Dell monitor. Is there a reason? maybe Nvidia drivers?
[21:04] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: funny ... without any luser intervention it seems to have started the proper d/l now
[21:04] <kevin_> helo
[21:04] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: figured the other ones needed disabling
[21:04] <kevin_> 11.10 xubuntu here
[21:04] <nazo_> Stereocaulon, changing default soundcards?  Unfortunately, if there's a way I'm not finding it.
[21:04] <sorseg> Hello! After updating to 11.10 unity shows question mark instead of eclipse icon. Where should I place eclipse Icon for unity to see it?
[21:04] <Mike9863> With GNOME Shell, how can I disable the setting where the edges of windows stick to each other a bit when I move them?
[21:04] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: how stable is Gnome3 on 11.10?
[21:04] <jake_> hey, i just installed 11.10 on my new comp and i have it plugged into a tv. the current size of the screen doesn't fit the tv, and none of the resolutions i pick in display preferences do either. how can i fi x this?
[21:04] <ajf> yeats: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708930/
[21:04] <Vampire> I found my grep versions differ that may be half of the issue
[21:05] <span89> make that 11.10-
[21:05] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: it's not all working in Gentoo ... and I want a DE that I can install on custom built boxen I sell customers
[21:05] <m3asmi> whitemagic: in the older version I was being clicking with the right click in the desktop and enable the full effect
[21:05] <whitemagic> jumpin-jack-flas: i can't say for sure.. but i'd highly recommend avoiding gnome3 at least until it leaves beta. it's got a lot of problems, from what i hear
[21:05] <deerdancer> is there a way to run gnome2's gnome-panel applets on gnome-shell?
[21:05] <lamccat> hi, can anyone tell me how to change my theme in ubunta blackbox
[21:05] <span89> HELP PLEASE-- I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and my wireless card is not working. It's a Broadcom BCM 5751 on a Dell Latitude D610.
[21:05] <xgt001> whitemagic, gnome 3 isnt beta anymore
[21:05] <jumpin-jack-flas> whitemagic: do you mean Ubuntu beta or upstream?
[21:05] <robin0800> nazo_, multimedia systems selector can be found in usr/share/applications and you can set a pulse audio server there
[21:06] <lamccat> hi, can anyone tell me how to change my theme in ubunta blackbox
[21:06] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: It is in universe, so you cannot depend on updates.   You have a difficult choice.  2011 seems to be the year where all of the Linux desktop developers went nutters.
[21:06] <Creap> dajhorn: I have installed the mdadm package, is it some kind of driver that partition manager can use or should I use the cli?
[21:06] <kevin_> hello
[21:06] <whitemagic> xgt011: my bad. Still, i've heard that it's pretty but something to avoid
[21:06] <nazo_> robin0800, truth be told, I haven't a clue what you're talking about  then.  I don't see such a "applications" directory under /usr/share at all, nor can I find any application named that.
[21:06] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: that is quite true
[21:06] <whitemagic> m3asmi: you will need to install gconf-editor. have a look at this page with instructions: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/09/how-to-edit-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu.html
[21:06] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: the closer we try to stay to Windows and Mac eye candy the more unstable we become
[21:07] <span89> HELP PLEASE-- I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and my wireless card is not working. It's a Broadcom BCM 5751 on a Dell Latitude D610.
[21:07] <phartz> span99: I had a similar problem with my broadcom B43. I installed firmware-b43-lpphy-installer. that fixed it.
[21:07] <domedagen> dajhorn: !
[21:07] <whitemagic> jump-jack-flas: i really don't know. Go for it if you're feeling adventurous..
[21:07] <trb_> This is a simple question... I'm sorry but I asked this question before and got the answer but I forgot to save it the answer,  how do you copy a file (named "98-buspirate.rules" located in my home directory /home/trb ) to the directory /etc/udev/rules.d) I cant copy it by simple cutting and pasting because it denys permission, what is the proper sudo command,  THanks in advance for your help.
[21:07] <sythe> http://xkcd.com/178/
[21:07] <nazo_> also, can it actually configure the default soundcard?  I don't really want to switch which system is being used.
[21:07] <jumpin-jack-flas> span89: post lspci -nn output for it
[21:07] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, I have looked at your /proc/asound/devices and I have found the problem: 2: [ 1- 0]: digital audio playback. As I had thought, Ubuntu tries using your USB channel to output audio. Now for a way to change that rather silly behaviour...
[21:07] <dajhorn> sythe:  +1
[21:07] <nazo_> Lol, irony of ironies Stereocaulon.  I want to use a USB device and it's defaulting to the onboard.
[21:08] <yeats> ajf: you've verified that you didn't type the command wrong?  I don't see why that wouldn't work
[21:08] <tcnk> hi all! can help? why after upgrade to 11.10 appear message like this: "ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored"
[21:08] <dajhorn> Creap: You may need to do an `mdadm --assembe` to get the initial import at the CLI.   After that, there is a way to get automatic imports.  Check /etc/default/mdadm*
[21:08] <robin0800> nazo_, its not usr share its usr share applications
[21:08] <Bragex9> How can I check if I have the latest nvidia drivers installed?
[21:08] <Stereocaulon> nazo__, that's ironic indeed.
[21:08] <ai9371> span89* was it working before you upgraded?
[21:08] <yeats> span89: try 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source' then reboot
[21:08] <nazo_> robin0800, I still haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about.  No such directory exists.
[21:08] <ajf> yeats: yeah, I'm really confused: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708933/
[21:08] <span89> Was working on Windows XP, never tried Ubuntu on this.
[21:09] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: well, they are USB speakers, but I'll assume you know what you're doing :-)
[21:09] <CasW> I bought a touchscreen today, and connected the touch part via the serial port, but when I do sudo lshw, I see *-serial UNCLAIMED; is my touchscreen broken or do I have to do something to make it work?
[21:09] <span89> According to this thread, there's a solution- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=984675. However, I'm dealing with the same issue as him "It didn't work. Seem to me that it didn't found the file dhclient.conf
[21:09] <span89> "
[21:09] <i4everyone> hey. anyone know what happens when you put a microsim from a different carrier into a LOCKED iPhone? do you get some sort of message that tells you it's not a valid sim?
[21:10] <Dusti> I just installed Ubuntu, but I think I'm missing the extra drivers I need for my wireless to work. How do I get them?
[21:10] <bazhang> i4everyone, try an iphone channel
[21:10] <nazo_> hmm, or it seemed not to.  Ok, there is a /usr/share/applications, but I don't see a "multimedia systems selector" or anything obviously similar
[21:10] <brian6705> yeats, I just tried in the command line.  All it shows is: extracting 'oneiric.tar.gz' authenticate 'oneiric.tar.gz' against 'oneiric.tar.gz.gpg'   ---- Then it closes with no other output
[21:10] <meerkats> im going to upgrade to 11.10 via an USB stick with FAT·" formatting, should I expect problems?
[21:10] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, hang on? they are USB speakers? That does make sense then. Is there any way to switch Analog/ Digital with a switch on the speakers (*without damagin the device*)?
[21:10] <sythe> Dusti: Easy...plug it into ethernet
[21:11] <robin0800> nazo_, its where the icons are pulled from for the dash but not all are pulled so can only be found there
[21:11] <meerkats> crap, FAT32*
[21:11] <trb_> This is a simple question... I'm sorry but I asked this question before and got the answer but I forgot to save it the answer, how do you copy a file (named "98-buspirate.rules" located in my home directory /home/trb ) to the directory /etc/udev/rules.d) I cant copy it by simple cutting and pasting because it denys permission, what is the proper sudo command,  THanks in advance for your help.  Tom
[21:11] <_kevinftw__> list
[21:11] <Mike9863> With GNOME Shell, how can I disable the setting where the edges of windows stick to each other a bit when I move them?
[21:11] <sythe> Dusti: And... "sudo apt-get update"
[21:11] <Dusti> sythe: I have wireless
[21:11] <nazo_> I'm running Xubuntu, this may be something Gnome.  However, can this program change the default soundcard in the first place?  I don't want to switch the default sound SYSTEM.
[21:11] <Dusti> oh
[21:11] <sythe> Dusti: Yes...you do
[21:11] <meerkats> trb_, what about nautilus?
[21:11] <nazo_> as far as I know, it is actually set to default to PulseAudio all around already.
[21:11] <yeats> ajf: see this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/bash-no-such-file-or-directory-when-file-actually-exists-860893/
[21:12] <robin0800> nazo_, yes and so can alsamixer
[21:12] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: not on the speakers themselves. They just have 2 volume buttons and a mute button, and Ubuntu sound applet responds to them beautifully.
[21:12] <span89> sythe: I will see if that works for me.
[21:12] <yeats> brian6705: hmmm - I might try downloading an ISO (from an alternative server near you) and doing a fresh install
[21:12] <trb_> What is nautalus? dont know
[21:12] <nazo_> well, how do you do it with alsamixer then?  I could switch to control the volume on different devices, but I couldn't find anything to change default devices.
[21:12] <bazhang> trb_, the file browser
[21:13] <trb_> This is a simple question... I'm sorry but I asked this question before and got the answer but I forgot to save it the answer, how do you copy a file (named "98-buspirate.rules" located in my home directory /home/trb ) to the directory /etc/udev/rules.d) I cant copy it by simple cutting and pasting because it denys permission, what is the proper sudo command,  THanks in advance for your help.  Tom
[21:13] <trb_> The contents of the file is... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"  where "A5005D8K" is the serial number of the usb interface chip, I'm not sure what it does can some one please explain wht purpose this rule serves?  T
[21:13] <brian6705> yeats, blah...  I was hoping it wouldn't come to that.  Is there a way to purge the already downloaded portions of the upgrade so that it can download them fresh?
[21:13] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: is rxvt-unicode not available, or is this another PICNIC
[21:13] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: sorry to confuse you. I didn't realize you could have non-usb Digital speakers.
[21:13] <yeats> trb_: 'sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/destination'
[21:13] <BobSapp> I have a question about oneric
[21:14] <trb_> thanks yeats
[21:14] <robin0800> nazo_, f6 select sound card
[21:14] <BobSapp> is it ok to ask here?
[21:14] <lImIton> I've just instaled 11.10 and I get no devices to calibrate/profile in gnome "Color" but in the live cd i could't see my Dell monitor. Is there a reason? maybe Nvidia drivers?
[21:14] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, hmm whitemagic was so friendly to show me where the general system settings are to be found. There is a sound settings icon there. If you click it, you will be able to select the device you want to configure under the "hardware" tab
[21:14] <nazo_> that just seems to select which soundcard you're changing the volume settings for
[21:14] <trb_> that is what I was looking for simple eh!
[21:14] <Dmole> anyone know of a cryptsetup tutorial for Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS?
[21:14] <dajhorn> jumpin-jack-flas: `apt-cache policy rxvt-unicode` says that it is in universe too.
[21:14] <yeats> brian6705: nope - it's past the point of no return, I would guess.  Make sure you back up before proceeding ;-)
[21:15] <trb_> The contents of the file is... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"  where "A5005D8K" is the serial number of the usb interface chip, I'm not sure what it does can some one please explain wht purpose this rule serves?  Tom
[21:15] <yeats> brian6705: ask away
[21:15] <nazo_> Hmm...  Or maybe the culprit is PulseAudio after all.
[21:15] <yeats> brian6705: sorry meant for someone else ;-)
[21:15] <brian6705> yeats, Yeah, I'll have to.  especially if I do a fresh install
[21:15] <yeats> BobSapp: ask away
[21:15] <nazo_> I'm sorry, I take back what I said.  If I select "Alsa Default Device" it does play through the correct DAC.  This means PulseAudio is just using the wrong one.
[21:16] <jake_> hey, i just installed 11.10 on my new comp and i have it plugged into a tv. the current size of the screen doesn't fit the tv, and none of the resolutions i pick in display preferences do either. how can i fi x this?
[21:16] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: yes, I've been there. You can also access it by clicking on the Sound Applet icon, and clicking Sound Settings...
[21:16] <BobSapp> So I upgraded to 11.10 with unity (which i like) but it doesnt seem to have the full graphical effects. And when i run gnome-terminal and switch to another program gnome-terminal remains visible but i cant click the gnome-terminal stuff
[21:16] <trb_> I believe it has something to do with simplifying the identification when you plug in the usb device not sure?
[21:16] <BobSapp> it seems like gnome-terminal is still rendering even though all the input etc is going to the underlying window
[21:16] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, do you see two devices there as well, or only one?
[21:17] <jumpin-jack-flas> dajhorn: not here ... I gotta get outta this Unity mess and into some other DE/WM ... bbiam
[21:17] <trb_> The contents of the file is... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"  where "A5005D8K" is the serial number of the usb interface chip, I'm not sure what it does can some one please explain wht purpose this rule serves?  Tom
[21:17] <trb_>  I believe it has something to do with simplifying the identification when you plug in the usb device not sure
[21:17] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: I see 2. USB AUDIO and Internal Audio, both have 1 Output, and they both have configurable profiles, both are currently set to Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output.
[21:17] <scman> Anyone know of a good desktop search program that will search inside pdf, word documents, and LibreOffice documents
[21:18] <IsmAvatar> grep, lol
[21:18] <PrivateReese> hello evryone
[21:18] <m3asmi> whitemagic: no changes :(
[21:18] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, that same options panel has a rather convenient choice dropdown along with a speaker test button. Try fiddling around with that if you have not already done so
[21:19] <virusz> usb dongle not working...lsusb 1076:7f00..then i found this 1076:7f40 in usb modeswtich data...the same vendor id different product number..can i just modify the default product id
[21:19] <m3asmi> the compiz effect doesn"t work too :'(  && the Alt+Tab too :(
[21:19] <BobSapp> m3asmi: I get the same does anyone know where the settings for graphical options are?
[21:20] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: yes, that's the Profile. Already tried fiddling with it. This whole window hasn't changed between 11.04 and 11.10 - everything is right where I intentionally put it to get it working the first time.
[21:20] <BobSapp> there used to be simple, nice best
[21:20] <PrivateReese> I have a question concerning Ubuntu "Download" i want to support Ubuntu by giving my Webserverspace vor Ubuntu Distributions so evryone can download it, do i have to be careful about something
[21:20] <PrivateReese> ?
[21:20] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: to clarify, after fiddling with it a bit, I haven't been able to get output, but before fiddling with it, it was on the settings that worked for 11.04.
[21:20] <m3asmi> BobSapp: I don"t know :(
[21:20] <deerdancer> m3asmi: try out the gnome-shell! just apt-get install and it really works beautiful! much much more matured!
[21:20] <nazo_> Bah, I google and keep just finding "padevchooser" which seems to not exist anymore.
[21:21] <BobSapp> I find gnome-shell to be abit more cpu intensive
[21:21] <BobSapp> but i did like it
[21:21] <pfadi> hallo
[21:21] <m3asmi> deerdancer: how  to tru out the gnome-shell !!!
[21:21] <Shirakawasuna> chrome seems a little slower after upgrading to oneiric (don't know if it's because of chrome 12 -> 14 or other upgrades). Anyone else notice something similar? The only things that is noticeably slower is changing tabs - opening, changing focus, and closing.
[21:21] <cheako_> Hello, the contacts list in Empathy is not persistent.
[21:21] <yeats> !gnome3 | m3asmi
[21:22] <Creap> dajhorn: thanks, I believe I solved it now using only cli, doesn't show up in partitionmanager still. at least I can mount the md, but mdadm said it is "made up out of 1 of 2 disks"..
[21:22] <deerdancer> m3asmi: just run "apt-get install gnome-shell" without quotes
[21:22] <Creap> mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2).
[21:22] <m3asmi> yeats : I'm now in ubuntu 11.10
[21:22] <crash1hd> If you where going to setup a dedicated machine (older machine) as a kids machine would you A: install ubuntu, install virtualbox and then install qimo or edbuntu and make backups so that they can be restored at a moments notice or B: install ubuntu and qimo side by side and create partition backups that can also be restored at a moments notice?
[21:23] <m3asmi> deerdancer:ok I'm going too ;)
[21:23] <yeats> m3asmi: just follow deerdancer's instruction
[21:23] <D_Russ> is it possible to change the thumbnail size of images that i wish to open from within apps like gimp or inkscape?
[21:23] <BouerBouer> hey guys, quick question, I'm trying to customize my desktop and need a feel bits of advice. 1) what is better in terms of minimalistic eye candy, Unity or GNOME 3, and 2) what is the best linux substitute for Rainmeter?
[21:23] <tir> join  #crack-attack
[21:23] <tir> what abaout 11.10??
[21:23] <cheako_> D_Russ: Nautilus has a zoom option.
[21:23] <yeats> !best | BouerBouer
[21:23] <robin0800> nazo_, gnome-media 2.91.2-2ubuntu2
[21:24] <nazo_> I'd rather avoid gnome stuff if I at all can
[21:24] <dajhorn> Creap: Welcome  That message means that the array is degraded.
[21:24] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, if you have any headphones, please try if they have proper sound output or not.
[21:24] <D_Russ> cheako, that seems to only work when i access a file from outside an application
[21:24] <sneezewort> Hello all. I just upgraded to canonical and everything is working except task switching. When I hit alt+tab the only thing that happens is the top menu is shown when I hit alt, but no task switching. Any ideas?
[21:24]  * nazo_ is running Xubuntu
[21:24] <bazhang> sneezewort, canonical?
[21:24] <Shirakawasuna> sneezewort: do you mean oneiric?
[21:25] <m3asmi> yeats: I'm runing the instalation
[21:25] <BouerBouer> ubottu: In that case, what system monitoring tool offers the best feature set while maintaining a pleasing asthetic look?
[21:25] <D_Russ> cheako: if i try to browse my image files from within gimp, or inkscape or anyother app the zoom option is not there, unless i am missing something
[21:25] <jake_> hey, i just installed 11.10 on my new comp and i have it plugged into a tv. the current size of the screen doesn't fit the tv, and none of the resolutions i pick in display preferences do either. how can i fix this?
[21:25] <Shirakawasuna> nazo_: xubuntu by default has some gnome stuff
[21:25] <BouerBouer> ubottu: HOLY CRAP THAT'S CREEPY uh ok
[21:25] <D_Russ> ubottu is a bot
[21:25] <BouerBouer> yeah russ just realized oh wow that's some really good AI
[21:25] <[sYn]> jake: Sounds like an overscan issue to me, although I'm not sure how to fix that! Might help with your googling :)!
[21:26] <sneezewort> Yes, I meant Oneiric. Sorry about that.
[21:26] <Pfadi> i need a Guest in our Guestbook
[21:26] <DangerOnTheRangr> Uh oh, ubottu is self-aware :)
[21:26] <BouerBouer> SKYNET.
[21:26] <Stereocaulon> Please try to keep this on-topic, it's a bit to crowded for this chatter.
[21:26] <white_magic> anyone know which setting would allow me to make the 'switcher' (ALT+TAB thing) icons way smaller? not just the icons.. the entire thign
[21:26] <white_magic> *thing
[21:26] <nazo_> Let me see what it wants to install if I try to install that one
[21:26] <white_magic> I have compizconfig manager installed, by the way
[21:26] <nazo_> I can't help but to think that there must be some more generic way of doing it though
[21:27] <nazo_> hmm, just three packages required
[21:27] <Creap> dajhorn: ok, I'll look into that
[21:27] <Pfadi> Can your Name and adresse and JID please?
[21:27] <robin0800> nazo_, I told you alsamixer and f6
[21:27] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: I was able to get them working, but they are Analog.
[21:27] <bazhang> !ot | Pfadi
[21:27] <nazo_> I did that robin0800.  Either PulseAudio has a separate configuration or perhaps it bypasses Alsa or something because it at least is still using the onboard
[21:28] <redjustice> !guidelines
[21:28] <robin0800> nazo_, pulse audio is built on top of alsa
[21:28] <Pfadi> nick
[21:28] <span89> ugh
[21:28] <nazo_> That's what I thought, but PulseAudio "default device" goes to onboard, Also "default device" goes to the USB soundcard.
[21:29] <nazo_> *Alsa
[21:29] <tom_afterburn> hello could someone help me with google earth please
[21:29] <virusz> usb dongle not working...lsusb 1076:7f00..then i found this 1076:7f40 in usb modeswtich data...the same vendor id different product number..can i just modify the default product id
[21:29] <cheako_> Hello, the contacts list in Empathy is not persistent.  That is every time I login, it's empty again.
[21:29] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, your /proc/asound/cards shows that it is indeed outputting a digital signal, which should work just fine with your USB speakers...
[21:30] <nazo_> Hmm...  I just installed the gnome-media package, but so far can't find any sort of multimedia system selector
[21:30] <Pfadi> i need a guest
[21:30] <span89> HELP PLEASE - Had Windows XP and installed Ubuntu 11.10. My wireless card is now not working. It's a Broadcom BCM5751 on a Dell Latitude D610. Yes, it was working before I put Ubuntu on it. - HELP PLEASE
[21:30] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, I'm thinking aloud here, not having any solutions yet...
[21:30] <m3asmi> tom_efterburn: download google-earth.bin
[21:30] <bazhang> Pfadi, wrong channel please stop asking
[21:30] <pondera> quick question, if i put ubuntu on a usbdrive can  i still use it to install ubuntu on another comp
[21:31] <span89> pondera: if your usbdrive is bootable, yes
[21:31] <Pfadi> ok sorry
[21:31] <D_Russ> can anyone help me with a nautilis question
[21:31] <redjustice> I'm in need of assistance with 11.10. I just updated, and now nothing is loading, no launcher, no top right menu bar options.
[21:31] <meerkats> im upgrading to 11.10 via usb stick, what does "when starting up from this disc, documents and settinges will be... stored or discarded, which one should I choose and why?
[21:31] <pondera> k thanks
[21:32] <Stereocaulon> brb, grabbing something to drink.
[21:32] <tom_afterburn> i have installed it, but when i start it it can't connect to server
[21:32] <nazo_> *sigh*  I just don't get why Xubuntu doesn't already come with some simple app to select the default soundcard instead of having to go through all of this.
[21:32] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: aware. It's pretty weird for me too. When I had the issue, first thing I checked was 1) Is it muted (no), and 2) Is Sound Settings set up right? (yes). Then, being out of ideas, I came here :-)
[21:32] <span89> pondera: if your usbdrive is bootable, yes
[21:32] <span89> HELP PLEASE - Had Windows XP and installed Ubuntu 11.10. My wireless card is now not working. It's a Broadcom BCM5751 on a Dell Latitude D610. Yes, it was working before I put Ubuntu on it. - HELP PLEASE\
[21:33] <bazhang> !helpme | span89
[21:33] <deerdancer> nazo_: just try out alsamixer in any terminal! it'll spare you the headache! ;)
[21:33] <bazhang> pondera, use unetbootin
[21:33] <Nazosan> deerdancer, already did that.  PulseAudio still goes to the onboard.
[21:33] <span89> ubottu: understood.
[21:33] <dajhorn> meerkats: If you will only use the USB stick to do installations, then choose discard.  The other choice puts a read/write home directory on the USB media.
[21:34] <pondera> Bazhang, what is that
[21:34] <bazhang> !unetbootin | pondera
[21:34] <Nazosan> I _think_ it did change the ALSA soundcard since if I select ALSA and default device in my music player I do get sound through the USB soundcard, but if I select PulseAudio (which doesn't let me select which device is used at all) it just goes back to the onboard
[21:34] <svip> I just made a terrible terrible TERRIBLE mistake by 'upgrading' to 10.11 (since the system kept insisting), apparently now I cannot use any desktop.  I cannot even use the Internet correctly from tty2, because some idiot decided that I needed a GUI to connect to the Internet.
[21:35] <dorfbewohner> Can someone explain me how to set Evolution as the default mail client in Oneiric?
[21:35] <svip> I can't believe Ubuntu is forcing me to dual boot into Windows. ;-;
[21:35] <IsmAvatar> svip: you mean 11.10, I assume
[21:35] <svip> IsmAvatar: Correct.y
[21:35] <svip> -y
[21:35] <Arkaniad> Anybody understand why I can't make  but i can receive calls in Empathy, yet when I answer a call I can't hear them but they can hear me?
[21:36] <bosyi> hi people. who can say me what default applications whitelisted in 11.10 (gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist)
[21:36] <span89> Had Windows XP and installed Ubuntu 11.10. My wireless card is now not working. It's a Broadcom BCM5751 on a Dell Latitude D610. Yes, it was working before I put Ubuntu on it.
[21:36] <Reaper> 3
[21:36] <dajhorn> Arkaniad: That sounds like a SIP + NAT problem.   Are you trying to do a sip:// voip call?
[21:36] <goose84> Why isnt this command excluding the patern
[21:36] <goose84> tar -zcvf media.tar.gz --exclude /home/vhosts/domain.au/httpdocs/media/stores/*/products/* /home/vhosts/domain.au/httpdocs/media
[21:36] <svip> I realise I might have had my doubts about Unity and Gnome 3 and I think the desktop was fine as it was, but I expected - at the very least - to see more than just blackness.
[21:36] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, did you upgrade (like I did), or did you make a clean install?
[21:37] <deerdancer> Nazosan: try custom installing alsa! i had a similar problem back on 9.xx. custom install worked well for my intel desktop!
[21:37] <pondera> Bazhang, im using the pend drive linux
[21:37] <Arkaniad> dajhorn: No, I'm trying to use Google Talk to make a voice call. My friend can call me just fine with GTalk but i can't hear him. My volume is on max, too. Another problem: I don't get empathy sound alerts, could be related, but I'm most worried about the fact that it just flat out wont let me start a call.
[21:37] <Nazosan> Custom install? I do hope you don't mean compile and install it myself or something.
[21:37] <robin0800> nazo_, type gstreamer-properties in a terminal
[21:37] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: upgraded
[21:38] <svip> If it is a non-reverseable mistake, then how do I get about getting... say... an interface?
[21:38] <svip> Something I can interact with.
[21:38] <Nazosan> hmmm...  gstreamer-properties did run and setup correctly, but I'm still getting the onboard SPU in my player when using PulseAudio
[21:39] <jbuncher> Can anyone help me understand why there doesn't seem to be an Ubuntu One music store plugin for Rhythmbox in Oneiric?
[21:39] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, did you already try to boot a LiveCD of Oneiric? That way you can pinpoint it to either a config. conflict or a general failure of Oneiric to get the settings right for your setup.
[21:39] <dajhorn> Arkaniad: A quick search of Launchpad suggests that Empathy in Oneiric is broken.  eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/758240
[21:39] <ufmblan> please help. no network devices available!!
[21:39] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: I have not tried a LiveCD, since I haven't burned one yet.
[21:39] <Arkaniad> dajhorn: Good enough answer for me, seems many things are broken / half working in Oneiric :P
[21:39] <dajhorn> Arkaniad: I use Chromium with the Google Talk plugin, and it works on Oneiric.
[21:40] <span89> Had Windows XP and installed Ubuntu 11.10. My wireless card is now not working. It's a Broadcom BCM5751 on a Dell Latitude D610. Yes, it was working before I put Ubuntu on it.
[21:40] <Arkaniad> dajhorn: Sounds like an idea.
[21:40] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, that would be my next action if I were in your shoes.
[21:40] <pondera> Bazhang, im using the pend drive linux
[21:40] <tom_afterburn> span89: backup files and use dell restore cd
[21:41] <svip> Well, I suppose I am just going to stay with Windows then.  I had enjoyed using Linux for a while now, but I guess it won't allow me to use it anymore.  A dang shame.
[21:41] <BouerBouer> hey guys, I decided to try and customize and stick with Unity instead. Is there any way to keep most aspects of Unity except for the menu that appears on the left side itself? Want to replace it with a CairoDock along the bottom
[21:41] <qwebirc80466> after upgrading to 11.10, there is a continous error at boot,about looking for a network configuration,and then it sits there forever.
[21:41] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: ok. I'll try that out. Thanks for your help so far. I'll be back after I try that if I'm not able to fix it.
[21:41] <span89> tom_afterburn: back up what files? personal? have none. and no restore cd either.
[21:41] <Nazosan> I tried pulseaudio -k just in case it needed to restart the service and I closed the audio player, but still onboard SPU.  Too bad, gstreamer-properties at least looked like it was what I needed, but apparently it didn't work.
[21:41] <span89> it says that it recognizes I have a hard
[21:41] <ufmblan> While messing with packages on synaptic after 11
[21:41] <span89> card*
[21:41] <ufmblan> 10
[21:41] <span89> but it says network DISABLED
[21:42] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, another thing that you might do is to monitor the syslog with a tail -f just before playing a sound.
[21:42] <gwb> Hi. just upgraded to 11.10.  Many icons missing in launcher. How can I set icons in the launcher?
[21:42] <akira_> Does anyone know how to fix this error:: " there seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks?
[21:42] <span89> when typing in sudo lshw -C network on the terminal
[21:42] <BouerBouer> OOO SICK nevermind automatically started using CairoDock instead =D
[21:42] <tom_afterburn> span89: ok dell is cheap and nasty. you should be able to do a "factory restore"
[21:42] <dorfbewohner> I have set Evolution as the default mail client, but when I click the envelope symbol in the panel, it still suggests me Thunderbird. Any help?
[21:42] <BouerBouer> wait no it didn't lol nevermind
[21:42] <Stereocaulon> akira_, no but it does sound rather serious.
[21:42] <th__> i have 2 displays and that new "top bar" is mirrored to them both. is it possible to make it visible to only 1 screen?
[21:43] <svip> How many do upgrades compared to reinstallations?
[21:43] <Mikeb4> please help...no network devices available.
[21:43] <Gentoo64> svip: a lot of upgrades go bad
[21:43] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: tail -f is empty, aside from a warning that following stdin indefinitely is ineffective (lol?)
[21:43] <span89> tom_afterburn: how do i accomplish that, and what exactly will that do?
[21:43] <smw> should I download ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso or ubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso?
[21:43] <svip> Gentoo64: Tell me about, I lost my ability to interact with my system.
[21:43] <cheako> I'm looking for help with Empathy.
[21:43] <Gentoo64> yeah id recommend clean install
[21:43] <Gentoo64> too many major changes
[21:44] <smw> Has 64bit gotten good enough?
[21:44] <Gentoo64> smw: use 64 bit
[21:44] <Gentoo64> its been the norm for years
[21:44] <IsmAvatar> cheako: most of us are psychologists
[21:44] <svip> Gentoo64: I probably shouldn't even do that; as in just stick with what was working.
[21:44] <Stereocaulon> th__, I dont'think that's possible, since it's occupied with the menubar for any programs that have a menubar.
[21:44] <akira_> so does that mean fresh install?
[21:44] <jmcantrell> how do you set the preferred applications?
[21:44] <smw> Gentoo64, the page still suggests 32bit :-P.
[21:44] <Gentoo64> svip: well yea if it works and you like it, no ones forcing you to upgrade
[21:44] <Gentoo64> smw: thats to guarantee it works on every cpu
[21:44] <qwebirc80466> after upgrade from 11.01 to 11.10, i get a searching for network configuration error that just sits there foreveer, continue passed 60 seconds is allI ever get.
[21:44] <deerdancer> dorfbewohner: just install evolution, and in the settings app, in 'Default Application' part, change the email client to evolution!
[21:44] <jbuncher> Can anyone help me understand why there doesn't seem to be an Ubuntu One music store plugin for Rhythmbox in Oneiric?
[21:45] <cheako> I'm looking for help with Empathy...  See my previous posts about contacts being cleared....  AFK
[21:45] <svip> Gentoo64: At least before, there wasn't a popup about the whole upgrade now thingie.  Even my laptop's upgrade manager seems to think I am an idiot for not upgrading.
[21:45] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, that warning is really funny , this might provide copy for a demotivational poster even.
[21:45] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, aimed at *nix geeks of course ;-)
[21:45] <satanaa> Hey all, i upgraded to ubuntu 11.10.. Made my mind to give Unity 2D a change.. but I only have 1 issue, every time my screen goes to "pause" I have to reboot to get back to the desktop
[21:45] <CodeWar> I just want to see my current desktop apps when ATL-TAB'bing ... how do I get that back please
[21:45] <Mikeb4> after 11.10 upgrade, no network devices available
[21:45] <satanaa> chance*
[21:45] <svip> Gentoo64: I guess I got carried away.  Assuming I would have at least a desktop.
[21:45] <Mikeb4> please help
[21:46] <svip> Alas, I was too naïve.  Well, I won't be fixing this tonight, that's for sure.
[21:46] <Gentoo64> svip: what did you upgrade to? 11.04?
[21:46] <satanaa> Anyone experienced this, or knows what I have to do?
[21:46] <svip> Gentoo64: 11.10.
[21:46] <Gentoo64> svip: ah well thats testing version
[21:46] <svip> Gentoo64: Testing version?
[21:46] <wolter> anybody having problems installing ubuntu 11.10 64bit desktop?
[21:46] <Gentoo64> or is 11.10 out now?
[21:46] <wolter> yes
[21:46] <Gentoo64> ohhh
[21:46] <Gentoo64> ok lol
[21:46] <svip> Gentoo64: Why did I get a big window saying 'GET 11.10 NOW, DUUUUUDE'
[21:46] <th__> Stereocaulon, how come? its possible in gnome-shell...
[21:46] <svip> Oh, I see.
[21:46] <jbuncher> Gentoo64, 11.10 was released yesterday or the day before.
[21:47] <Gentoo64> svip: because its out now
[21:47] <valsum> wolter: installed without problems
[21:47] <dinussaurus> hi folks. i'm using oneiric ocelot. i installed compizconfig settings manager, but after i opened it, it made my screen go black. after i rebooted, nautilus loaded, but there was no unity, no clock, no taskbar. i don't even know how to look up my problem because i'm new. can someone suggest what to do?
[21:47] <satanaa> dang i need this issue fixed
[21:47] <hagus> Is python installed automatically with ubuntu or do I need to install it myself?
[21:47] <Gentoo64> seemed like only couple days ago someone said itll be out in 2 weeks
[21:47] <wolter> I am getting this weird squashfs error and its freakingme out
[21:47] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: am I doing it right? Just `tail -f` or do I have to specify a log file?
[21:47] <ufmblan> I need help
[21:47] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, I meant the following line: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog
[21:47] <tom_afterburn> snap89: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19257458.aspx
[21:47] <cheako> back.
[21:47] <smw> hagus, python is part of the default install
[21:48] <delac> seems that firefox cant connect anywhere if the proxy is set manually, nor does it use system wide proxy even if told to do so. fix?
[21:48] <Nazosan> I'm getting the impression that gstreamer-properties is really more for specific applications...  Is there anything else that might affect PulseAudio settings?
[21:48] <svip> Gentoo64: Well, upgrades have never killed my ability to at least have an interface and an Internet connection.
[21:48] <span89> What/where is the "desktop menu"
[21:48] <Bragex9> I have finally managed to get the unity desktop to load properly, but only when I log in as a guest. If I try to log in with my regular name and password the screen gets black for a couple of seconds and I am then bounced back to the login box. What is causing this problem?
[21:48] <svip> Gentoo64: With those two, I tend to fix mostly everything that goes wrong.
[21:48] <deerdancer> jbuncher: cuz its there in banshee! that's the way canonical's decided to go! rhythmbox used to have an ubuntuone plugin back in 11.04!
[21:48] <span89> What/where is the "desktop menu"? I'm being told to go to "System > Admin..."
[21:48] <Gentoo64> svip: well you never know... i hear all sorts of random stuff after people have upgraded. id always clean install if i was you
[21:48] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: nothing of interest there. Want me to pastebin?
[21:48] <wolter> valsum, from usb?
[21:49] <deerdancer> span89: what do you mean by desktop menu?
[21:49] <yagoo> delac, for old versions of firefox proxy settings were broken..
[21:49] <hagus> At the top of my file it says #!/bin/env python but when I run ./test.py it says /bin/env: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[21:49] <svip> Gentoo64: What my friends keep telling me.  I can't believe they still insist on maintaining the upgrade functionality when it never works.
[21:49] <yagoo> delac, u have to use the right proxy setting
[21:49] <Gentoo64> svip: yeah i know
[21:49] <Gentoo64> too dodgy
[21:49] <jbuncher> deerdancer, No offense, but that's a stupid reason.  The plugin used to be there (and in banshee), why isn't it still in rhythmbox?
[21:49] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: http://pastebin.com/sNeYaY8y
[21:49] <svip> Gentoo64: Also, aren't you in the wrong distro channel?
[21:49] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, no, if you can't find anything audiorelated, you won't get anything that way...Sigh...
[21:49] <logi01> anyone knows how can i restart compiz from tty1?
[21:49] <Gentoo64> svip: nah
[21:49] <th__> i have 2 displays and that new "top bar" is mirrored to them both. is it possible to make it visible to only 1 screen?
[21:49] <span89> "Under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers, the STA drivers can be activated for use." from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx - under Step 2
[21:49] <m3asmi> deerdancer: I installed gnome-shel	
[21:49] <delac> yagoo: and the right proxy settings are?
[21:49] <svip> Gentoo64: Is the other one busy compiling?
[21:49] <dinussaurus>  hi folks. i'm using oneiric ocelot. i installed compizconfig settings manager, but after i opened it, it made my screen go black. after i rebooted, nautilus loaded, but there was no unity, no clock, no taskbar. i don't even know how to look up my problem because i'm new. can someone suggest what to do?
[21:49] <Gentoo64> svip: nope
[21:50] <wolter> I am getting this error when I boot to my install usb: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: Invalid argument
[21:50] <span89> deerdancer: "Under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers, the STA drivers can be activated for use." from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx - under Step 2
[21:50] <hagus> I am just trying to get cgi working on my machine
[21:50] <svip> Gentoo64: Really?  Must be old then!
[21:50] <wolter> I am using unetbootin, should I now?
[21:50] <wolter> should I not*
[21:50] <mfilipe> is possible move dash from a monitor to other?
[21:50] <Gentoo64> svip: doesnt take long at all
[21:50] <m3asmi> how to enable the effect affter installing gnome-shel ?§
[21:50] <gogeta> dinussaurus: swich to 2d and remove what broke it
[21:50] <tom_afterburn> snap89: you can request dell to send you a restore cd. for reason do NOT mention ubuntu, just say wireless card not working
[21:50] <svip> Gentoo64: Isn't the old saying, 'if your Gentoo ain't compiling, it's probably out of date!'?
[21:50] <tom_afterburn> snap89: http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dellcare/en/backupcd_form?c=us&l=en&s=gen&redirect=1
[21:50] <D_Russ> how do i zoom in on image thumbnails when trying to open them from within an application that does not have full nautilis options shown?
[21:50] <Gentoo64> svip: on old hardware i suppose
[21:51] <nicofs> Can someone help me debug my wifi connection? I am connected, there is reception - but the internet is not stable... for a short period i can ping google in about 40ms and then without reason it shoots up to beyond 3000ms... i just don't know what's wrong...
[21:51] <svip> Gentoo64: Maybe, anyway, I am going to leave now.  Maybe I will find a way in the morning.
[21:51] <Gentoo64> svip: yea clean install it
[21:51] <svip> Gentoo64: But for now, I can enjoy the antics of Windows 7.
[21:51] <wolter> helpless irc
[21:51] <Gentoo64> cool
[21:51] <dinussaurus> gogeta: i uninstalled the program, but the menus and stuff didn't come back. can you suggest what to look for?
[21:51] <gogeta> tom_afterburn: lol you relie most oem oses come with tools to make restore cds
[21:51] <Hochiminh> hi guys, does the ubuntu 10.04 install CD include desktop enviormnent
[21:51] <yagoo> nicofs, are you connecting to your own wifi?
[21:51] <span89> tom_afterburn: thank you for your help thus far. i'm trying the solution(s) found on this page now - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx. i'm currently under step 2, but i have no idea what the "desktop menu" is.
[21:51] <Hochiminh> or do i need to have a internet cvonnection to add
[21:51] <yagoo> nicofs, be sure of that first..
[21:51] <nicofs> yagoo, yes
[21:51] <gogeta> dinussaurus: :-(
[21:52] <Gentoo64> Hochiminh: yes
[21:52] <span89> tom_afterburn: could you clarify that for me, please?
[21:52] <deerdancer> jbuncher: i know its a stupid reason! my answer comes from my grudge,.. canonical forced me to switch to gnome-shell cuz of the lame unity! but again, custom installing plugins may work!
[21:52] <yagoo> nicofs, try pinging your own gateway..
[21:52] <jbuncher> Hochiminh, as long as you grab the desktop version and not the server version, yes.
[21:52] <gogeta> deerdancer: xubuntu hehe
[21:52] <yagoo> nicofs, and see if that spikes
[21:52] <Hochiminh> gentoo64 is there a list of packages on the ubuntu 10.04 cd?
[21:52] <Gentoo64> Hochiminh: the usual gnome stuff
[21:52] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, nope, nothing useful in that pastebin, the last entries were rather old.
[21:52] <Hochiminh> ok, close enough
[21:53] <deerdancer> span89: if you're using 11.10, just tap the super (windows key lol) and type additional drivers!
[21:53] <nicofs> yagoo, how do i find out, what my gateway is?
[21:53] <deerdancer> m3asmi: sweet! ;)
[21:53] <yagoo> nico1038, so u never setup ur wifi
[21:53] <satanaa> I 1 issue, every time my screen goes to "pause" I have to reboot to get back to the desktop, anyone know what I have to do to fix it?
[21:53] <yagoo> nicofs, ^
[21:53] <jbuncher> deerdancer, well, that's just ridiculous.  I may give gnome-shell a try, though I had some font issues with it last night.  I just want to be able to click twice to get to my applications (once to open a menu, again on the app to launch) Is that too much to ask????
[21:53] <Stereocaulon> nicofs, you can look that up using ifconfig
[21:53] <yagoo> nicofs, if u dont know ur gateway ip# (local ip#), then u probably didnt setup ur wifi server
[21:53] <illmortal> does anyone know the generic video driver that Ubuntu 11.10 uses in its livecd? It gave me dual screen capability.. where as NVIDIA-Settings is making my system buggy.
[21:53] <span89> deerdancer: it says there are no additional propetary drivers. wifi is still not working.
[21:53] <Gentoo64> illmortal: nouveau
[21:54] <gogeta> illmortal: nevu
[21:54] <gogeta> yea
[21:54] <deerdancer> jbuncher: seriously mate. gnome-shell's beautiful!
[21:54] <yagoo> illmortal, generic is vesa
[21:54] <illmortal> Gentoo64, so do I need to completely remove nvidia drivers?
[21:54] <illmortal> then restart?
[21:54] <nicofs> yagoo, i know the ip of the router... if that's what you mean
[21:54] <deerdancer> span89: type into shell #rfkill unblock all
[21:54] <Gentoo64> illmortal: yes it should unblacklist nouveau
[21:54] <jbuncher> deerdancer, it looks nice, but has the same "clickability" issues that unity has.  and, some letters weren't showing up last night.  it was odd
[21:54] <yagoo> nicofs, try pinging that and see if there's a spike
[21:54] <tom_afterburn> step89: which step 2 r u referring to, there are multiple?
[21:54] <deerdancer> span89: type into shell "#rfkill unblock all" without quotes!
[21:54] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: we may have a different time zone. At the time I posted that pastebin, it was 17:49, 1 minute after the last entry.
[21:54] <Stereocaulon> nicofs, the router *is* your gateway (apart from a complex network setup, that is)
[21:54] <jbuncher> deerdancer, I'm going to log into that, actually
[21:54] <tom_afterburn> span89: not step89
[21:55] <illmortal> ok thank you Gentoo64, will try it out right now.
[21:55] <yagoo> nicofs, how far away are u from the router? (maybe there's intereference with other things at channel 6.. try another channel)
[21:55] <span89> tom_afterburn: Step 2 under "INSTALLING STA DRIVERS" It reads: "Under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers, the STA drivers can be activated for use."
[21:55] <nicofs> yagoo, and you are correct, i did not set it up - i only use it - with many devices, all of which have no issues apart from the one i'm writing about...
[21:55] <yagoo> nicofs, good luck.
[21:55] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, thank you for that correction. Anyway, the log does not contain anything useful relating to sound.
[21:55] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: I was watching it, and there was just a bunch of the CMD /dev/null stuff you saw until I opened Banshee and played a sound, at which point I saw those entries appear.
[21:56] <th__> i have 2 displays and that new "top bar" is mirrored to them both. is it possible to make it visible to only 1 screen?
[21:56] <akira_> ubuntu 11.10 is the new development release is it not?
[21:56] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: ok. I'll try the liveCD then
[21:56] <Gentoo64> 12.04 no?
[21:56] <hipo> hey this is not ubuntu related but more related to the chromium webbrowser but how do enable local cahcing of data
[21:56] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: thanks again for your help so far.
[21:56] <christopher> hey whats with Empathy not working
[21:56] <Gentoo64> hipo: use polipo
[21:56] <oCean> akira_: 11.10 has been officially released oct 13th. Next release will be 12.04 (LTS)
[21:56] <m3asmi> deerdancer: but the effect doesn't work yeat :'(
[21:56] <christopher> I cant enter my account info
[21:56] <illmortal> alright going to restart in hopes I get my dual screens back :D
[21:56] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, that's quite strange as those entries seem to have nothinig to do with the sound system.
[21:56] <Gentoo64> hipo: does it by default no setup required
[21:56] <deerdancer> is anyone else using irccloud? god chrome's going apeshit hogging away 120megs on this one channel alone!
[21:56] <christopher> http://i.imgur.com/Gm34h.png
[21:57] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: they may have just been invoked by Banshee
[21:57] <christopher> like I type it in and it wont let me continue
[21:57] <hipo> Gentoo64, whats that
[21:57] <deerdancer> m3asmi: what do you mean? you're still getting the same unity interface?
[21:57] <Gentoo64> hipo: just add --proxy-server=127.0.0.1:8123 to the app line
[21:57] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, sorry for not being to help you. I sympathise with you. Sound is a constant string of troubles for Ubuntu Desktops.
[21:57] <Gentoo64> hipo: a caching proxy
[21:57] <TehAndrew> i have major issues with catalyst and 11.10, the windows gets choppy if i enable vsync, but i don't want tearing either
[21:57] <nicofs> yagoo, it uses no encryption apart from a mac filter table - so there should be no issues about that. pinging the router results in times between 1.4 and 2500ms - and makes my internet connection even worse...
[21:57] <tom_afterburn> span89: the help was written for an older version of ubuntu. in the top left there is an icon, when you click on it a search box appears. type SYSTEM in the search box. you will see System Settings icon, click on that
[21:57] <hipo> Gentoo64, wo dude u lost me
[21:57] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: I've noticed v_v
[21:57] <m3asmi> deerdancer:yeas :(
[21:58] <akira_> so it was probably a bad idea i used windows to burn 11.10 formatted my harddrive and now cant install any programs because there is a massive error in my daemon- so i can't even burn a "different" copy of ubuntu ...
[21:58] <yagoo> nicofs, then it's something between your laptop and your router.
[21:58] <Gentoo64> hipo: polipo will cache websites to disk
[21:58] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, Banshee should not even have rights to call an apt service.
[21:58] <deerdancer> m3asmi: dear you need to select 'GNOME' during login from a small gear icon near the password field!
[21:58] <TehAndrew> can i somehow enable vsync and get rid of the choppy windows? and when i say choppy i mean that they're lagging as i move them
[21:58] <hipo> gentoo64, so how do i add --proxy-server=127.0.0.1:8123 to the thing
[21:58] <yagoo> nicofs, and you should be using encryption. Mac Filtering can always be spoofed.
[21:58] <christopher> so noone can help me?
[21:58] <TehAndrew> i've tried disabling vsync in compiz settings manager, but then i get screen tearing again
[21:58] <th__> when i send azureus or pidgin to system tray, icons does not do anything :S when i left or right click them... plz help :)
[21:59] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: maybe it was just a coincidence then. System checking for updates or some such at the same time I happened to play banshee
[21:59] <span89> It says there are no proprietary drivers in use! Dammit!
[21:59] <Gentoo64> hipo: either on the desktop app shortcut. or add that to /etc/chromium/default
[21:59]  * yagoo says anybody can easily scan Mac Filters in plain air.. and assimilate it. << ITS NOT A SECURITY FEATURE
[21:59] <christopher> ive never had so many issues in a single Ubuntu release ever
[21:59] <christopher> you people broke everything
[21:59] <nicofs> but what could that be? i'm 5 meters and a wall away - and all other devices in this room don't complain - even if i plug the wifi dongle i'm using now into them...
[21:59] <Gentoo64> hipo: under the chromium_flags
[21:59] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, to check that you can try to play the same file again, I seriously doubt those entries are related to Banshee or any part of the sound system
[21:59]  * yagoo tells nicofs that using MAC FILTERING doesn't lock other people in the neighborhood from connecting
[21:59] <christopher> can I please get some help setting up empathy?
[22:00] <m3asmi> deerdancer: yes I'm now in Gnome session like you said Unity
[22:00] <bazhang> yagoo, please stop that
[22:00] <nicofs> yagoo, i know that i should - but it's not my decision and so i can't change that... and not my problem atm. i just want to surf the internet...
[22:00] <hipo> gentoo64, ok im in about:flags
[22:00] <yagoo> bazhang, stop what?
[22:00] <bazhang> christopher, patience please
[22:00] <tom_afterburn> span89: i carefully chose my laptop so that it does not require any proprietary drivers. unfortunately getting your wireless to work in ubuntu maybe to too much hassle
[22:00] <Gentoo64> hipo: not about:flags
[22:00] <span89> Can anyone help me? I've been in this channel for quite some time now
[22:00] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: nope, it's Banshee all right. I just repeated the process.
[22:00] <bazhang> yagoo, all the /me
[22:00] <yagoo> bazhang, he said he uses mac filtering.
[22:00] <span89> tom_afterburn: understood.
[22:00] <yagoo> bazhang, grow up. I used it twice.
[22:00] <Gentoo64> hipo: gksudo gedit /etc/chromium/default
[22:00] <hipo> gentoo64, chrome://flags/
[22:00]  * TehAndrew asks for help, but gets completly ignored.
[22:00] <Tohuw> I'm assisting a friend who has a Wacom Bamboo tablet in 11.10. It mostly works, but in GIMP it seems to randomly draw lines across the screen. Like, she will draw a straight line, it will draw two lines all the way from the  upper left of the canvas for no apparent reason, in addition to whatever she drew. Her settings in GIMP and wacomcpl are correct as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom Any insights?
[22:00] <span89> tom_afterburn: this is a legacy laptop that I was just looking to spice up, not my main machine. but it would be nice... wired networking works on it, but wireless would be fantastic
[22:01] <Gentoo64> hipo: or whatever editor you use
[22:01] <th__> when i send azureus or pidgin to system tray, icons does not do anything :S when i left or right click them... plz help :)
[22:01] <Aleo> hi all again
[22:01] <hipo> Gentoo64, ok a lil box popped up after i put that in the terminal
[22:01] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone here know how thunderbird chooses its default app to open links in? Since switching to chrome from chromium, it wants to use firefox rather than chrome (despite my settings in xfce and hitting the 'default browser' button in chrome)
[22:01] <Gentoo64> hipo: does it say CHROMIUM_FLAGS=""
[22:01] <Tohuw> th__: GNOME 2 style tray icons are no longer supported. There is a patch for pidgin iirc, but I don't know about azureus.
[22:01] <oCean> TehAndrew: have some patience, no need for silly /me messages to draw attention
[22:02] <Aleo> on last Ubuntu there is still no way to control the icons size of the left dock ?
[22:02] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, that's *really* weird as those processes should have nothing in common with each other after having installed Banshee of course...The Cron line is also unrelated.
[22:02] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: im not sure. you can remove firefox from /usr/bin/xdg-open and itll use chrome
[22:02] <th__> Tohuw, :S. but the icons are there?
[22:02] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: not sure of a cleaner way though
[22:02] <hipo> Gentoo64, in the top is say default (/ect/chromium) getit
[22:02] <MyNickIsLongerTh> I'm trying out Oneric, but I'm finding that the interface hides the menu bar on many programs.  I do need to be able to see the menus on some programs that I use.  Is there a way to disable menu bar hiding?
[22:02] <Tohuw> th__: that doesn't mean the icons are supported. gnome-taskbar no longer exists in Unity.
[22:03] <Gentoo64> hipo: no text?
[22:03] <emorris> MyNickIsLongerTh, hover over the panel, and they appear
[22:03] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, anyway, I hope that your sound does work on a LiveCD session, so you can make comparisons in config files involved.
[22:03] <deerdancer> span89: can you post the o/p of "lshw |gi wireless" ?
[22:03] <hipo> Gentoo64, nothing just a blank page
[22:03] <Aleo> it is strange that we are no able to control the icons size of the Unity dock, on the Cairo dock we have settings
[22:03] <Gentoo64> hipo: exit that then
[22:03] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: let's keep our fingers crossed ;-)
[22:03] <Tohuw> MyNickIsLongerTh: not at this time, though you can remove the autohiding completely by removing the unity indicator package.
[22:03] <Gentoo64> hipo: sure you didnt make a type?
[22:03] <MyNickIsLongerTh> emorris: yes, I know, but I need to be able to *see* them, rather than hover to see.  It's an extra step that slows me down a lot
[22:03] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: should export BROWSER=google-chrome work temporarily?
[22:03] <th__> Tohuw, are you serious??
[22:03] <Gentoo64> hipo: typo*
[22:03] <MyNickIsLongerTh> Tohuw: Thanks!  How do I do that?
[22:03] <Tohuw> th__: yes.
[22:03] <th__> no task bar in unity??
[22:04] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: try it
[22:04] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, indeed, it is getting rather late here, I have will have to logou within an hour or so.
[22:04] <hipo> Gentoo64, yeh i copy and pasted
[22:04] <Gentoo64> hipo: do it in terminal using tabs to complete. its more reliable
[22:04] <Gentoo64> it might be a different name
[22:04] <MyNickIsLongerTh> Tohuw: is that the same as Appmenu indicator?
[22:04] <Tohuw> th__: no, that is not what I typed. I said no gnome-taskbar. It has been replaced entirely by Unity's functions
[22:04] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: ok, good night. I have no further need for you. It'll be a while before I finish the LiveCD test.
[22:04] <hipo> gento064, hipo@sheila:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/chromium/default
[22:04] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: no luck
[22:04] <tigranes> Hi! I just upgraded to 11.10 and can't seem to make the launcher "Never" hide. CompizConfig shows "Hide Launcher" setting set to "Never", but the launcher still hides whenever a window gets close.
[22:05] <mingdao_home> shucks, buckwheat
[22:05] <th__> Tohuw, aha. and what are they called?
[22:05] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: not sure. do you have a /usr/bin/xdg-open?
[22:05] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, "I have no further need for you" sounds a bit harsh, but still...Good Luck
[22:05] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: yes
[22:05] <ironhalik> join #debian
[22:05] <ironhalik> soz
[22:05] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: I was playing ;-)
[22:05] <nicofs> I'd still appreciate any help with my wifi...
[22:05] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: sudo nano it and near the bottom where it says BROWSER, remove firefox
[22:05] <satanaa> I 1 issue, every time my screen goes to "pause" I have to reboot to get back to the desktop, anyone know what I have to do to fix it?
[22:05] <Tohuw> MyNickIsLongerTh: Yes. See http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/does-unity-support-disabling-the-global-application-menu
[22:06] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, Playing EvilGenius, are we now?
[22:06] <gnubie> Shirakawasuna, 11.10 try clicking system settings, then system indo, default progs
[22:06] <MyNickIsLongerTh> Tohuw: thank you :)
[22:06] <IsmAvatar> You should see me on a good day
[22:06] <yagoo> satanaa, sounds like u have sleep/powersaving freezing issues..
[22:06] <Tohuw> th__: indicators. There are multiple packages for some. Others are a result of the application employing the correct interface guidelines  to use the indicator space.
[22:06] <Stereocaulon> IsmAvatar, that would be something indeed. Well, I enjoyed our chat and I wish you the best of luck.
[22:06] <Tohuw> I'm assisting a friend who has a Wacom Bamboo tablet in 11.10. It mostly works, but in GIMP it seems to randomly draw lines across the screen. Like, she will draw a straight line, it will draw two lines all the way from the  upper left of the canvas for no apparent reason, in addition to whatever she drew. Her settings in GIMP and wacomcpl are correct as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom Any insights?
[22:07] <gwb> my Launcher won't pop out when an app is maximized.  Can I change that?
[22:07] <IsmAvatar> Stereocaulon: you too. Good night
[22:07] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: no luck again
[22:07] <robin0800> tigranes, yes think that's broken could not resize either you can use confity which does work
[22:07] <Shirakawasuna> Gentoo64: it still opens in firefox
[22:07] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: it should work...
[22:07] <Gentoo64> :s
[22:07] <th__> Tohuw, tahnks
[22:07] <gnubie> Shirakawasuna, 11.10 try clicking system settings, then system indo, default progs
[22:07] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: is it thunderbird you're using?
[22:07] <yagoo> nicofs, i already told u what to try.. did u even try it?
[22:07] <gnubie> Shirakawasuna, 11.10 try clicking system settings, then system info, default progs
[22:07] <Gentoo64> Shirakawasuna: it might have specific settings im not sure
[22:07] <Tohuw> gwb: http://peterpants.blogspot.com/2011/04/ubuntu-1104-unity-how-to-disable-unity.html
[22:08] <Gentoo64> brb
[22:08] <TehAndrew> so, for how long are you going to wait before giving me at least some response? i guess i'll ask my questions again... i recently installed ubuntu 11.10 (i've got an AMD graphics card) and i have issues with catalyst as i'm enabling vsync, the windows moves really choppy. however, i don't want choppy windows (and when i say choppy i mean that they lag when i move them across the screen)
[22:08] <Shirakawasuna> gnubie: I'm running xubuntu, but I have the equivalent option set to 'google-chrome' in xfce's settings
[22:08] <Tohuw> !patience| TehAndrew
[22:08] <nicofs> yagoo, you told me, it's something between me and the router - and that i should use encryption... or did you mean something else...?
[22:08] <gnubie> Shirakawasuna, ahh sorry
[22:08] <yagoo> TehAndrew, I don't seen any question in there.
[22:09] <yagoo> TehAndrew, probably i'll wait forever for a real question.
[22:09] <Tohuw> TehAndrew: how did you install catalyst?
[22:09] <TehAndrew> well, can't you figure out what i mean from that explanation?
[22:09] <TehAndrew> Tohuw: yes i've installed the one from ati.com
[22:09] <Tohuw> TehAndrew: problem one.
[22:09] <akira__> hey want to trade your Wifi problem with my "i can't install any software, have a nice day" problem?
[22:09] <TehAndrew> anyways the question was; how do i enable vsync without having choppy windows
[22:09] <Tohuw> TehAndrew: install the package jockey ("Hardware Drivers") suggests to you.
[22:09] <TehAndrew> Tohuw: alright
[22:10] <Tohuw> TehAndrew: AMD's linux packages have been and likely always will be terribly implemented.
[22:10] <robin0800> TehAndrew, think that is in compiz settings
[22:11] <TehAndrew> robin0800: i have tried disabling vsync in there, but that disables it in catalyst too..
[22:11] <MyNickIsLongerTh> Another question: When I enter the virtual desktop, I'm presented with 4 desktops.  If I click one, it shows that one at about 90% scale, and I have to click on it again to enter it.  Why is it doing this, and is there a way to make it just switch to the correct desktop?
[22:11] <robin0800> TehAndrew, are you certain vsync is your problem?
[22:11] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, they're called workspaces.. try not to say "virtual" desktop.. it can be very misleading
[22:12] <TehAndrew> robin0800: i am, because natty narwhal had the same issue
[22:12] <TehAndrew> robin0800: but for some reason it worked there
[22:12] <TehAndrew> restarting to see if the one in "Hardware Drivers" made any difference
[22:12] <pooky> can anyone recommend a stand alone tray application that autohides?
[22:12] <ubuntu_> hey
[22:12] <ubuntu_> i have a question...can me somebody help? When I install xubuntu 10.10...can i then update to ubuntu 11.10?
[22:12] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo: ?  The name virtual desktop dates back to the Sun window manager.  What makes it confusing?
[22:13] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, vmware /virtual box..
[22:13] <bazhang> ubuntu_, with 11.04 in between
[22:13] <akira__> is brasero the only burning utility thats automatically installed? and can it burn iso images? and if so will it actually burn? as the reviews are not too good
[22:13] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, virtualization is the big thing these days..
[22:13] <robin0800> TehAndrew, you didn't say that...... well that's called a regression bug you should file it
[22:13] <Gentoo64> akira__: yes it does isos. its good
[22:13] <phiscibe> theoraticaly you can upgrade ubuntu_ but its is OFTEN easier to do a clean install
[22:14] <Gentoo64> akira__: theres a few burners but you might as well use brasero with gnome
[22:14] <virusz> need help with usb dongle
[22:14] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo: ok, so is there a way to get more than 4 workspaces, spaces, or desktops (whatever you wish to call them), and to get ubuntu to jump into the workspace  I click on instead of showing me that weird preview?
[22:14] <phiscibe> ive been wathing all the bugs with this release, lots of frutration, ive made a blog for the ones ive ran into with some fixes http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/
[22:14] <akira__> ok- is there any recommendation for downloading a different version of ubuntu as this 11.1 isn't working out for me?  and brasero with gnome? what does that mean?
[22:14] <alejandro__> Hey
[22:14] <Gentoo64> akira__: just fits in with gnome basically
[22:15] <akira__> im not sure what gnome is
[22:15] <akira__> :P
[22:15] <Gentoo64> akira__: ubuntu 10.10 is a decent one
[22:15] <joar> does anyone know how to make the terminal go forward/backward a word with CTRL+LARROW/RARROW? I had the functionality but it disappeared for some unknown reason.
[22:15] <akira__> ok ty
[22:15] <new-ubuntu> o, new version.. no screen savers ?
[22:15] <joar> now it just inserts ;5D
[22:15] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, don't say I'm calling them this. This is what gnome and kde call them.. Workspaces.. I'm not making up the vocabulary .. so don't argue with me onthis thanks..
[22:15] <Nazosan> Guess I have another question, but this one is probably a lot more Xubuntu specific (#Xubuntu seems to be dead atm).  How can I get my resolution and mouse settings on the login screen?  Atm it's using some ridiculously low 4:3 resolution stretched out across my 16:9 monitor and the default mouse settings don't get along well with the DPI increase I'm using.
[22:16] <alejandro__> Just wanted to spread the word that if people are having issues with mouse not doing mouse clicks it is because Unity does not like Xmodmap tweaks. Mostly left handed guys will have this issue.
[22:16] <armence> Hello all. I am trying to configure xmonad+gnome2 on ubuntu 11.10 and I cannot get it to work. I get an error: "xmonad failed to load" (or something similar) whenever I try to login... Can I get some help with the configuration?
[22:16] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yagoo: whatever you wish to call them is fine.  I'm not asking about vocabulary.  I'm asking about how to alter their behavior.
[22:17] <ben_q> hey guys, I just updated to 11.10 and am using the new unity desktop for the first time. unfortunately the launcher on the left and the menu top right disappeared and are still gone after a restart
[22:17] <th__> if a quide tells me to do a command like this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:geod/ppa-geod. what is the address for that repo?
[22:17] <new-ubuntu> 11.10, can I change it to classic?, can i set wallpaper, can i disable guest.., can i assign goups to users?
[22:17] <ben_q> also my hotkeys to switch to other desktops are gone
[22:17] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, Gnome desktop is Ubuntu's default desktop.  If you say virtual desktop.. fine.. just don't tell others to follow your own vocabulary because i'm not.
[22:17] <new-ubuntu> sorry not set wallpaper, i mean screen saver
[22:17] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, you're still very new to linux I see.. So learn from the others. Thanks.
[22:17] <Gentoo64> new-ubuntu: you can do all of those. not sure about classic in 11.10
[22:17] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo: I've been running Linux since 1994.
[22:17] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo, that is
[22:18] <alejandro__> Someone experiencing window management laziness in 11.10?
[22:18] <TheAndrew> back, thanks a lot (it worked with the ones from "Hardware Drivers")
[22:18] <Nazosan> No.  My Xfce4 runs very smoothly.  d-:
[22:18] <new-ubuntu> Gentoo64: screensaver, try it...
[22:18] <alejandro__> Okay. Someone experiencing window management laziness in Unity in Ubuntu 11.10?
[22:18] <th__> if a quide tells me to do a command like this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:geod/ppa-geod. what is the address for that repo?
[22:18] <virusz> usb dongle cant be detected in 11.10
[22:18]  * Nazosan whistles innocently
[22:18] <akira__> ok new question- is there a way to download ubuntu 10.10? anywhere? all i see on the site is 11.10
[22:18] <TheAndrew> now i have another problem though; as i'm running an extended desktop (with 2 screens) i have two top panels, can i get rid of the one on the my secondary monitor?
[22:19] <Gentoo64> new-ubuntu: if its a bug theres prob a lod of fixes in the works as its just bee nreleased
[22:19] <Nazosan> Window laziness sounds like one of the flashy effects to me though.
[22:19] <nicofs> yagoo, still there? if using encryption wasn't your advice, then your advice didn't get to me...
[22:19] <MyNickIsLongerTh> ok, so let me try the question again.  Is there a way to get Ubuntu to switch directly to the desktop, workspace, space, or whatever you wish to call it in the workspace manager, rather than showing a 90% preview first?
[22:19] <Dougie187> Has anyone had any issues of full screen wine apps making unity fall behind all windows?
[22:19] <new-ubuntu> Gentoo64: no menu for it
[22:19] <alejandro__> It's a bit annoying...
[22:20] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, you're new to Linux. I doubt u use linux since 1994.
[22:20] <yagoo> lol
[22:20] <Nazosan> As I recall, there's a tweak utility for all the effects being used.  You could probably turn off individual effects.
[22:20] <Nazosan> I played around with all that back when they first started using those effects, but ultimately just ended up disabling the whole thing even back then.
[22:20] <alejandro__> Nazosan: Didn't see it in the control panel...
[22:20] <luca> dear friends I can't see videos avi
[22:21] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: youre on xubuntu though arent you?
[22:21] <luca> this only on ubuntu 11.10
[22:21] <Nazosan> Sorry, I can't remember anything specific.  It has been a long time now (as I recall I had an AGP X850XT-PE)
[22:21] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, i have unix guys 20 years in the unix business saying they know everything.. and get pissed off at the linux learning curve.. saying how linux should be like unix.. so i pretty much know where u come from..
[22:21] <Nazosan> I am Gentoo64
[22:21] <bazhang> luca, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:21] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yahoo: umm.  OK.  That's your choice.
[22:21] <luca> because on ubuntu 11.04 I could see them
[22:21] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: thats different to unity
[22:21] <Nazosan> I'm talking about way back when they first did that there was such a program at least
[22:21] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yagoo: Ummm...OK.
[22:21] <Nazosan> I think it wasn't even "Unity" back then but something else.
[22:22] <Nazosan> Surely Unity has such a configuration though?
[22:22] <alejandro__> Just wanted to spread the word that if people are having issues with mouse not doing mouse clicks it is because Unity does not like Xmodmap tweaks. Mostly left handed guys will have this issue.
[22:22] <yagoo> MyNickIsLongerTh, you did not use Linux since 1994. I don't have to pretend everything you say sounds smart.
[22:22] <Grievre> How do I report bugs/misinformation on help.ubuntu.org?
[22:22] <yagoo> eh
[22:22] <MyNickIsLongerTh> yagoo: I've not claimed to know everything.  I've asked a question.  Do you know the answer?  If not, it's not productive to guess how long I've been using what OS or what I know about Linux
[22:22] <bazhang> yagoo, please stop with that. MyNickIsLongerTh you too
[22:22] <luca> bazhang: these packages are already installed
[22:22] <Grievre> Specifically: The instructions for building USB installers are somewhat incorrect
[22:22] <onryo> hiexpo, on one of my machines I am running Ubuntu 10.10 I never upgraded it since I am a Gnome fan. Since I have 3x24" screens and code a lot I need this environment. Does the new Ubuntu fully let you use Gnome with panels etc?
[22:23] <luca> I see a green screen
[22:23]  * alejandro__ likes Unity/Ubuntu 11.10.
[22:23] <luca> I installed also the drivers
[22:23] <Nazosan> Anyway, all that stuff aside, does anyone know how to at least change the resolution of the login screen?
[22:23] <luca> alejandro_: can u see the avi??
[22:23] <Nazosan> *In Xubuntu, sorry
[22:23] <alejandro__> It needs some further working though.
[22:24] <yagoo> Nazosan, that may be in a gdm.conf file or perhaps in /etc/default/ (i can find u the link-- it's easy to do this)
[22:24] <alejandro__> luca: How do you open the avi?
[22:24] <onryo> bazhang Hi, on one of my machines I am running Ubuntu 10.10 I never upgraded it since I am a Gnome fan. Since I have 3x24" screens and code a lot I need this environment. Does the new Ubuntu fully let you use Gnome with panels etc?
[22:24] <Nazosan> Ok, let me take a quick look
[22:24] <a271828> Hi -- how to get latest okular in Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:24] <jatt> onryo: no
[22:24] <Nazosan> I guess it wouldn't be gdm though
[22:24] <luca> with riproduttore multimediale
[22:24] <jatt> onryo: the new gnome is completely different, don't expect it to behave as gnome 2 (with its panels, applets, etc).
[22:24] <luca> alejandro_: how can u open them??
[22:25] <Mike9863> With GNOME Shell, how can I disable the setting where the edges of windows stick to each other a bit when I move them?
[22:25] <alejandro__> luca: what does does the riproduttore multimediale say?
[22:25] <alejandro__> Nevermind the spare does.
[22:25] <Nazosan> Sorry, I'd rather ask a Xubuntu specific question in #Xubuntu, but...  -.-
[22:25] <luca> mediaplayer
[22:25] <archhelpplz> hi
[22:26] <Nazosan> I'm not seeing anything obvious in /etc/defaults so far
[22:26] <alejandro__> luca: What is the error message?
[22:26] <onryo> jatt kind of sad. I must say I am liking Debian wheezy more and more. Really a lot of work to migrate my main to Arch Linux or some other flavor =/
[22:26] <paladinlaw> is there a way to manually removing nvidia drivers from additional drivers without accessing additional drivers
[22:26] <luca> There isn't the error i see the screen green
[22:26] <luca> I caanot se the videos
[22:26] <jatt> onryo: don't give up so quickly :). Yesterday I almost gave up, but know I installed xfce and its working great
[22:26] <luca> cannot
[22:26] <Shirakawasuna> a271828: that might be difficult, as KDE has done a significant version bump since 10.10. In order, try this: 1) Installing the oneiric package for it (deb at packages.ubuntu.com). 2) Compiling it from source (get the source at packages.ubuntu.com). 3) Find a way to upgrade KDE within 10.10, or 4) Update from 10.10 to 11.04, then 11.10 (or reinstall directly with 11.10).
[22:26] <jatt> onryo: so 11.10 is not that bad
[22:27] <archhelpplz> please help me - i have notebook with integrated ati hd4200 card but when i installed proprierary driver the system going to be very slow - i disabled VSync feature
[22:27] <alejandro__> Someone help luca. I am lost.
[22:27] <archhelpplz> but compiz still slow!!!
[22:27] <alejandro__> jatt: 11.10 nice
[22:27] <archhelpplz> its unusable
[22:27] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: remove hte prop driver
[22:27] <luca> everyone can see avi video??
[22:27] <yagoo> Nazosan, i did this long long ago.. gimme a sec
[22:27] <archhelpplz> but then notebook going to off in 2h not in 4,5
[22:27] <new-ubuntu> looks like 11.10 has a lot less OS options
[22:27] <alejandro__> burp
[22:27] <archhelpplz> there power problem
[22:28] <Corgan1> On 11.10, I've pulled out Unity and Unity 2D and installed Gnome-Shell in its stead. I'm noticing a considerable amount of desktop effects employed which are causing performance deterioration in apps and UI. The old visual effects dialogue is gone, so the option to turn off/modify them is gone. Is modifying this as simple as pulling out Compiz, or is there any easy switch for this?
[22:28] <Nazosan> Alright, thanks yagoo
[22:28] <onryo> jatt xfce is really nice and light. I won't install anything that is not pure FOSS. Even for my graphics card. I'll give Ubuntu a spin and see what I think of the upgrade. Thanks for the feedback.
[22:28] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: use another distro
[22:28] <luca> I tried to install gnome shell too
[22:28] <Gentoo64> why install ubuntu then pull out core stuff
[22:28] <luca> maybe this was the error??
[22:29] <yagoo> Nazosan, (i did this *very long ago..i will have to look into 11.10 the way it's sparked)
[22:29] <archhelpplz> any ideas with unity3d and ati?
[22:29] <jiffe1> is there something special I have to do networking wise when considering upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 ?
[22:29] <jiffe1> I just gave it a shot with a test machine and I can't get the network to come up anymore
[22:29] <Stereocaulon> Well, it's getting late here... good day or night everyone. I'm off to bed.
[22:29] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: remove the proprietary driver
[22:29] <Gentoo64> and itll be fast again
[22:29] <jiffe1> its looking for something in /run/network which doesn't exist
[22:30] <Corgan1> Gentoo64: Because I prefer Canonical's managment of it's repositories, and most software developers are rallying around Debian/Ubuntu distros for software dispersement. And there are times where I don't feel like recompiling software.
[22:30] <th__> how i can export a public key from gpg?
[22:30] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: just saying unity etc is core part of it. there are distros with gnome 3 as default and you wont have to mess about
[22:30] <archhelpplz> but how to increase battery life?
[22:31] <dark_eye> archhelpplz: install jupiter
[22:31] <Corgan1> Gentoo64: I don't really want to debate about that. Obviously that's an option. That doesn't answer my question.
[22:31] <Corgan1> Less criticism and more help, please.
[22:31] <yagoo> Nakkel, lightdm replaces gdm--> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM  .. so eventually either u or me can race to the test! :)
[22:32] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: just trying to help. ubuntu is delicate
[22:32] <archhelpplz> it works with ATI?
[22:32] <onryo> Corgan1 have you tried Debian (Wheezy) I might be forced to go down that road for the same reasons. LMDE (Mint) is not bad imho. If you are a programmer and want a blob free FOSS distro I would look at Debian or Arch Linux.
[22:33] <Gentoo64> blob free?
[22:33] <paladinlaw> how do i run with vesa instead of nvidia???
[22:33] <Gentoo64> paladinlaw: why would you want vesa?
[22:33] <robinsch> when I installed ubuntu, ubuntu-backports was checked in update manager. I think it shouldn't be default. Can lead to issues
[22:33] <master> Hello group
[22:33] <Corgan1> onryo: It's coming down, at this point, to what I can do within Ubuntu. I've done one system restore. I need to be productive at this point. The system is useable, but slow. I can't be totally offline any longer.
[22:33] <rickup> I just upgraded today and I am still using gnome classic no effects but I have an AT 3200 that gets recognixes at some other cadr
[22:33] <paladinlaw> Gentoo64, so i can uninstall a nvidia driver that makes me get black screen
[22:34] <Gentoo64> paladinlaw: cant you access the additional driver bit?
[22:34] <onryo> Gentoo64, the kernel of Ubuntu has tons of compiled firmware divers that are not open source. They are known as "blobs".
[22:34] <rickup> so panels are gone ?
[22:34] <Gentoo64> onryo: i know
[22:34] <paladinlaw> Gentoo64, i cant access anything.. im currently running livecd
[22:35] <robinsch> anyone else has oneiric-backports checked bby default on Software Sources -> Updates tab?
[22:35] <Satanaa> Hey, whenever my screen goes to "standby" ( pause screen ) i cant get back to the desktop, i have to restart.. can anyone help me fix this unity wank?
[22:35] <robinsch> i think that can lead to issues
[22:35] <robinsch> on fresh 11.10 install
[22:35] <deebee> !language | Satanaa
[22:35] <gwb> gwb I can't see compiz settings in system settings
[22:35] <master> Any driver gurus in the room?
[22:35] <onryo> Satanaa, try this Ctrl+Alt+print screen+b
[22:35] <yrushi> hello, is there a way to make NuCalc 2.0 work with wine?
[22:36] <Satanaa> deebee, after this long im allowed to use that word :P
[22:36] <onryo> Satanaa, that will reboot your machine.
[22:36] <paladinlaw> how do i run with vesa instead of nvidia???
[22:36] <deebee> Satanaa: no you're not :)
[22:36] <rickup> Satanaa, thats why I am using gnome classic with no effects - otherwise I cant dwith users and as it is I can shut down the machine, it hangs
[22:36] <Satanaa> onryo no i have to restart the machine to get back to the desktop
[22:36] <Satanaa> deebee nah just write a long hatemail to unity devs :P
[22:36] <Titmouse> Hey, how can I switch the titlebar button layout to the left? My in use theme is does have then on the left but doesn't in 11.10. Also there set to be on the left in Ubuntu tweak but still their on the right.
[22:36] <tanzhaeschen> hello, I just installed ubuntu oneiric And my touchpad seems to be reacting very sluggishly. It is fine under windows, so I am sure it is not a hardware problem
[22:36] <Satanaa> my machine is more or less unusable, and i will need to move away from ubuntu, if i cant fix it
[22:37] <Nazosan> BTW, if the person with the sound troubles earlier is still around, I found out how to change the default soundcard PulseAudio uses.
[22:37] <master> I have a ubuntu in a VM that exposes an ensoniq-1371 card.. but the hardware is not recognized or loaded
[22:37] <archhelpplz> what to do with ATI???
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> is there still a gconf-editor in oneiric?
[22:37] <Gentoo64> i might have to try 11.10 in a vm. sounds like a laugh
[22:37] <master> Any clues?
[22:37] <yrushi> hello, I need to run Nucalc 2.0 under wine. does anyone know how to do this?
[22:37] <Satanaa> MonkeyDust install it with apt-get
[22:37] <onryo> Satanaa, Try Ctrl+Alt+F7
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> Satanaa: i use an alternative fork, just informing
[22:37] <dark_eye> Gentoo64: What can you except from old kernel version which ubuntu uses?
[22:38] <master> lsmod shows it loaded.. but alsa complains about no cards or drivers
[22:38] <gwb> gwb I'm getting a flood of errors from apt-get when I try to install flashplugin-downloader
[22:38] <Corgan1> onryo & Gentoo64: It's getting to the point where Ubuntu might be pushing me away. That's frustrating to deal with, as I really adored it for so long. i'm just trying to give it one last try--trying to fix these graphical issues.
[22:38] <paladinlaw> how do i run with vesa instead of nvidia??? can i just change it from nvidia to vesa in xorg.conf_
[22:38] <jmcantrell> where is the information on the current desktop wallpaper stored?
[22:38] <Satanaa> onryo ?
[22:39] <gwb> gwb it eventually gives up with a message about too many redirections
[22:39] <onryo> paladinlaw, easy. Don't install the Nvidia drivers.
[22:39] <tanzhaeschen> anyone know, what the problem with the touchpad could be? As far as I know, it is an elantech touchpad.
[22:39] <Satanaa> onryo want me to change TTY ?
[22:39] <paladinlaw> onryo, too late... need vesa now to uninstall it
[22:39] <PShop2> guys help
[22:39] <PShop2> My Ubuntu screen is too big
[22:39] <PShop2> how do I fix it?
[22:39] <SetiAmon> Hmm it seems Oss4 doesn't work on 11.10.This is a problem as I have always had nothing but staticy distortion with pulseaudio/alsa.
[22:39] <PShop2> the icons are huge compared to a normal desktop?
[22:39] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: I wasn't trying to putt you off ubuntu. just saying you might find another distro better if you want plain gnome 3 rather than tweaking about removing stuff when ubuntu breaks so easy, by default
[22:39] <archhelpplz> when first update will come?
[22:39] <archhelpplz> ubuntu 11.10
[22:39] <PShop2> I tried fixing the resolution with my graphics card manager
[22:39] <PShop2> no avail?
[22:39] <SetiAmon> has anyone here overcome staticy distorted sound with pulse?like echos and such ? I turned pcm down etc
[22:40] <master> All this Soundcard snafu started when I upgraded to Natty narwhal
[22:40] <PShop2> Using Ubuntu 11.10
[22:40] <Satanaa> I might just give up and move to Crunch Bang
[22:40] <master> It worked perfectly before that
[22:40] <Corgan1> Gentoo64: What are your recommendations?
[22:40] <Nazosan> PulseAudio seems to work fine here
[22:40] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: check pcm level
[22:40] <Gentoo64> maybe its above normal
[22:40] <Gentoo64> above 100
[22:40] <luca> I'm uninstalling gnome shell
[22:40] <Nazosan> Both on my onboard SPU and now, thankfully on my Alien DAC
[22:40] <onryo> Satannaa you want to use the last windows manager in your list. I have 6 desktops so in my case it is F7 to get back to my UI. I don't know how many desktops you have but it the Fx would be the last one for you.
[22:40] <Titmouse> My button layout prior to updating to 11.10 appears on the right. Even though my theme is set to the left and in ubuntu tweak it's also set to the left yet they still appear on the right (except in chrome then they do appear on the left)?
[22:40] <Gentoo64> Corgan1: fedora comes with gnome3
[22:40] <master> I think it's missing kernel support
[22:40] <Satanaa> anyways i need a toast.. if i quit its cuz ubuntu forces me to restart
[22:41] <Corgan1> Gentoo64: Again, part of the reason I'm in Ubuntu territory is the repository handling and the debian under structure.
[22:41] <tanzhaeschen> please anyone? my touchpad reacts so sluggishly, that it is almost unusable
[22:41] <Shirakawasuna> is gnome 3 still unsupported?
[22:41] <SetiAmon> Gentoo64:  yeah i did the pcm down etc.even way down its still the same
[22:41] <onryo> master, you should see under /usr/src the source code
[22:41] <archhelpplz> My sincerest apologies over the confusion with this, it was a good
[22:41] <archhelpplz> fix, but breaks of the ABI breaks there was some confusion caused. The
[22:41] <archhelpplz> non-ABI breaking fix will be in the next SRU.
[22:41] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: not sure. i use plain alsa never had static noise
[22:41] <deebee> tanzhaeschen: Has it always been that way, or have you done anything recently that may have caused it?
[22:41] <luca> 11.10 is based on gnome 3 but i installed gnome shell
[22:41] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:42] <luca> now i'm uninstalling gnome shell
[22:42] <SetiAmon> Gentoo how do i use the plain alsa driver?
[22:42] <nicofs> Can someone help me debug my wifi connection? I am connected, there is reception - but the internet is not stable... for a short period i can ping google in about 40ms and then without reason it shoots up to beyond 3000ms and then back and so on... i just don't know what's wrong...
[22:42] <tim_irssi> hi all, I just upgraded to 11.10, but after I login the sidebar on the left removes itself and doesn't come back... any idea how to fix that?
[22:42] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: just saying, i never needed oss
[22:42] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: do you use windows? does it do it on that?
[22:42] <Nazosan> Hmm...  I just tried OSS and it didn't work in DeadBeef at least.
[22:42] <master> No source code or anyelse in /usr/src
[22:42] <tanzhaeschen> deebee: It is a new Laptop. I just installed Ubuntu.
[22:43] <SetiAmon> I completly wiped windows off
[22:43] <jmcantrell> where is the information on the current desktop wallpaper stored?
[22:43] <hagus> What is does ubuntu rename the apache httpd binary to?
[22:43] <deebee> tanzhaeschen: What's the make/model?
[22:43] <master> Just Kconfig and Makefile
[22:43] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: maybe its hardware? i have no clue
[22:43] <SetiAmon> no windows it never did it,and oss4 worked flawlessly but now on 11.10 oss4 doesn't work
[22:43] <hagus> What does ubuntu rename the apache httpd binary to?
[22:43] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: prob removed from kernel
[22:43] <onryo> Corgan1, I totally agree. Ubuntu has become the new trendy Mac. Looks like it was made for a tablet. Maybe not the best distro for a so called power user =/
[22:43] <Satanaa> ah i got back before it went bonkers
[22:43] <SetiAmon> its X-FI it has sound out of the box but its staticy cracking and has echos
[22:43] <Gentoo64> SetiAmon: again im not sure
[22:43] <Nazosan> Interestingly, if I select OSS as an output I get nothing.
[22:43]  * Nazosan never uses OSS though
[22:43] <Gentoo64> oss is old
[22:43] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:44] <hagus> What does ubuntu rename the httpd binary to?
[22:44] <tanzhaeschen> deebee: The Laptop is a Samsung NP-RC730. The Touchpad is an elantech touchpad. On the same Model (but different laptop) it works perfectly under gentoo.
[22:44] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:44] <SetiAmon> oss4 not oss3
[22:44] <Nazosan> Yeah, isn't OSS officialy depreciated?
[22:44] <hagus> What does ubuntu call the httpd binary?
[22:44] <master> I've tried every option on the Ubuntu soundcardproblem wiki page
[22:44] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:44] <jmcantrell> where is the information on the current desktop wallpaper stored?
[22:44] <SetiAmon> yeha
[22:44] <SetiAmon> i went threw the faqs also
[22:45] <onryo> master, your using PA (Pulse Audio) I am guessing? What is the problem you are having?
[22:45] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: in the kernel its marked as deprecated
[22:45] <robin0800> jmcantrell, you can find it in dconf
[22:45] <Satanaa> ubuntu devs need to have normal machines.. then they can sit with the issues too and they dont release something as undone as this
[22:45] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:45] <archhelpplz> when SRU will released?
[22:46] <master> No sound cards found
[22:46] <Nazosan> Their machines are special?
[22:46] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: whats sru?
[22:46] <SetiAmon> sound hasn't worked right since jaunty on my system
[22:46] <master> No drivers detected
[22:46] <jmcantrell> robin0800: dconf? is that similar to gconf?
[22:46] <archhelpplz> i dunno, like blah blah update
[22:46] <onryo> master what sound card do you use?
[22:46] <master> lspci shows a sound card
[22:46] <archhelpplz> waiting for bugfix
[22:46] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: you keep spamming it yet you dono what it is lol
[22:46] <archhelpplz> maintainer told that it will included in SRU
[22:46] <master> Ensoniq 1371 - soundblaster compatible
[22:46] <PShop2> Why do my graphics look huge?
[22:46] <tanzhaeschen> deebee: do you have any hints?
[22:46] <Gentoo64> PShop2: change res?
[22:47] <Gentoo64> PShop2: or do you mean console?
[22:47] <robin0800> jmcantrell, yes gconf settings are being migrated to dconf
[22:47]  * Nazosan hopes yagoo didn't get lost in the Internet
[22:47] <iandalton> I was upgrading to 11.10, and someone came by and tried to use the PC, and froze it. Now I can only boot in Recovery Mode. How can I fix it?
[22:47] <deebee> tanzhaeschen: no, just looking to see if it's an issue that's been mentioned before
[22:47] <PShop2> change res
[22:47] <jmcantrell> robin0800: i see. how do i access dconf?
[22:47] <dassie> The task bar on the left side of the screen not always showing when you press your cursor against it...is that a bug or am I doing something wrong? Oneiric btw...
[22:48] <robin0800> jmcantrell, all the new unity stuff is in dconf
[22:48] <Gentoo64> im giving 11.10 a go in vm now
[22:48] <master> I modprobed the card and it shows in lsmod ... but it's like it's not really there
[22:48] <onryo> master what do you see if you try this cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:48] <yeats> dassie: I've seen that too - appears to be intermittent
[22:48] <Nazosan> Oh, btw, robin0800, the official program to configure settings like which soundcard is default in PulseAudio is "pavucontrol"
[22:48] <archhelpplz> i hate almost all linux distributions
[22:48] <nicofs> Is there a tool to monitor Wifi signal strength?
[22:49] <master> --no soundcards--
[22:49] <dassie> yeats: thought so...same on my end. was natty this buggy when it first came out? I can't remember
[22:49] <archhelpplz> no soundcards noone dono wtf is SRU and when i will come
[22:49] <onryo> master OK well we know that. What card are you using?
[22:49] <archhelpplz> going to ms store then
[22:49] <master> Ensoniq 1371
[22:49] <yeats> dassie: I didn't use Unity in Natty so I don't know ;-)
[22:49] <robin0800> jmcantrell, you have to install it as you do gconf now days
[22:50] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: because your probably a fresh win user. youll learn
[22:50] <master> I have done modprobe snd-ens1371 but no modules appear
[22:50] <dancr> Hello guys. I have a Toshiba A665. I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10.  The touchpad worked fine, but now after a reboot its dead. I tried some solutions on the web and none work. Particularly, I installed synaptics, and it doesnt recognize my touchpad. I also went to setting and the mouse and touchpad only shows a tab for the mouse, not the touchpad. Any suggestions?
[22:50] <dassie> yeats: well it's not working about 80% of the time here =/
[22:50] <enter> jmcantrell : you can install dconf-tools
[22:50] <Raven187> question: what is wrong with banshee? take long time to queue from a server, and locks up after playing a few songs from queue. never used to do this .
[22:50] <enter> and then run dconf-editor
[22:51] <archhelpplz> i use linux on servers, i code in vim. but linux ends for me when X starts
[22:51] <onryo> master OK if I remember back in the day that card did have some issues.
[22:51] <Nazosan> I don't suppose anyone else might have any clues as to how to set the resolution of the login screen in Xubuntu?
[22:51] <tanzhaeschen> deebee: it is just, that I have to press reallz hard on the pad for it to recognize anz movement
[22:51] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: linux, or ubuntu 11.10?
[22:51] <master> It worked well in Mearcat
[22:51] <archhelpplz> i am a bit stupid and i bought hardware w/o lookin in supported hardware list
[22:51] <archhelpplz> linux
[22:51] <jmcantrell> robin0800, enter: do you know where in dconf, the wallpaper info is stored. dconf-editor does not appear to have a search feature
[22:51] <master> I never had a problem til I upgraded to Natty
[22:51] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: ive never had x problems
[22:51] <yagoo> Nakkel, this doesn't have it-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM .. I'm suspecting u can set the resolution with the old X resources.. or use the "Default" in xorg.conf
[22:52] <dancr> any suggestions? this is driving me crazy hehehe
[22:52] <archhelpplz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/763005
[22:52] <archhelpplz> i've disable vsync
[22:52] <archhelpplz> and it stil SLOW
[22:52] <yagoo> Nazosan, i meant.. ^
[22:52] <onryo> master do you see anything if you try lsmod | grep Ensoniq
[22:52] <master> I did a find in /lib/modules/$(uname -r) for "*1371*" and nothing was returned
[22:52] <archhelpplz> five years ago the situation was better then now! it's regress
[22:53] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: vsync wont help the speed. better enabed for desktop imo
[22:53] <Nazosan> I don't even want to think of messing with the old X resources -.-  I'll see what I can figure out from that page
[22:53] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: what gpu and driver?
[22:53] <master> Nope
[22:53] <archhelpplz> HD 4200
[22:53] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: did you try uninstalling the prop driver?
[22:53] <Gentoo64> you said it worked fine wthout it
[22:53] <onryo> masen, seems like you are going to have to compile the diver then. Weird that Ubuntu of all distros would not have that firmware.
[22:53] <archhelpplz> but my battery life decreased in twice!
[22:53] <troii> hey
[22:53] <robin0800> jmcantrell, org/gnome/background
[22:53] <archhelpplz> yep
[22:53] <yagoo> Nazosan, it's basically 1 line u have to change somewher.. u can try the 'default' in xorg.conf
[22:53] <archhelpplz> i've uninstalled
[22:53] <troii> will ubuntu 64x run onmy laptop?
[22:53] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: and its still bad?
[22:53] <Raven187> guess i'll try another channel
[22:54] <troii> i mean x64
[22:54] <archhelpplz> not, it works good
[22:54] <Gentoo64> troii: if it has 64 bit cpu yes
[22:54] <archhelpplz> but VERY BIG power problems
[22:54] <Nazosan> the problem is, there isn't such a line in my xorg.conf.  In fact, there's hardly anything in there.
[22:54] <troii> hmm
[22:54] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: whats the matter then?
[22:54] <troii> how to check that?
[22:54] <evan_> Hi all, I've install ubuntu on a 200gb partition (/dev/sda3) yet ubuntu is limited to only 20gb - i think i selected this in the installation, how can i change it so that ubuntu uses all 200gb of the partition? Here is the output of "df -h":
[22:54] <evan_> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:54] <evan_> /dev/loop0             19G   18G  138M 100% /
[22:54] <evan_> udev                  1.4G  4.0K  1.4G   1% /dev
[22:54] <evan_> tmpfs                 551M  860K  550M   1% /run
[22:54] <FloodBot1> evan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: its prob the kernel power stuff
[22:54] <evan_> none                  5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[22:54] <Gentoo64> archhelpplz: has got worse with more recent kernels
[22:54] <archhelpplz> bug in compiz / X.. in 10.04 LTS compiz is ok
[22:54] <phiscibe> Naz, X doesn't use xorg.conf like it used to
[22:54] <troii> Gentoo64 how to check that pls?
[22:55] <Gentoo64> troii: is it a proper laptop? modern? whats it called?
[22:55] <phiscibe> its a stub, it read several .conf files at startup and makes its own mind up
[22:55] <Nazosan> I figured as much phiscibe, lol
[22:55] <phiscibe> yup
[22:55] <troii> acer extensa 5220
[22:55] <Nazosan> it's getting a bit messy to change simple things these days though
[22:55] <yeats> troii: what OS are you running?
[22:55] <phiscibe> yeah but we love
[22:55] <phiscibe> it
[22:55] <osmosis> Im getting a total fail when installing 11.10 on my Samsung Series 9.  Any ideas?
[22:55] <Nazosan> who is "we"?
[22:55] <Gentoo64> troii: id use 32 bit for that one
[22:55] <jmcantrell> is crontab still the preferred way to schedule things?
[22:56] <troii> 2.99 gb ram, im running xp atm ,but i want to switch
[22:56] <Nazosan> Anyway, I guess I have to figure out what configuration file it's actually using or something
[22:56] <troii> ok
[22:56] <yagoo> Nazosan, if u do -->lighdm --help -- u'll see that unity-greeter may be used..
[22:56] <phiscibe> use geeks...nerds, that love computers like a girlfriend or a boy fired, why do you think we put up with distro upgrades?  its a love affair and we are crazy
[22:56] <phiscibe> us
[22:56] <yagoo> Nazosan, i can't find any documentation --(there's no documentation for this greeter)
[22:56] <Nazosan> No Unity here at least
[22:56] <phiscibe> the greeter changed
[22:57] <yagoo> Nazosan, do u have /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf ?
[22:57] <Nazosan> No, but this is Xubuntu
[22:57] <troii> thanks bye
[22:57] <robin0800> Nazosan, you can still put it in xorg.conf it will read it
[22:57] <phiscibe> ive been tracking common bugs, got ablog  look at the lins for teh relase notes http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/
[22:57] <yagoo> Nazosan, well um.. u should of said Xubuntu.. i don't know what xubuntu is using.
[22:57] <enter> can anyone help me to sign in on ubuntu one under proxy network
[22:58] <Nazosan> robin0800, maybe, but I haven't a clue what to actually put in.  Manually configuring resolutions in the X configurations was never my forte
[22:58]  * Nazosan DID say Xubuntu -.-
[22:58] <enter> I am trying everything but still no luck
[22:58] <Mike9863> With GNOME Shell, how can I disable the setting where the edges of windows stick to each other a bit when I move them?
[22:58] <phiscibe> if u got unity and kubuntu u got something strange, kubuntu uses plasma desktop
[22:59] <Takyoji[laptop]> Would the kernel ever panic from system overheating?
[22:59] <Nazosan> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf says my greeter is "lightdm-gtk-greeter"
[22:59] <phiscibe> it could from heat Takyoji[laptop] or possible show taint messages in log
[22:59] <Nazosan> the configuration for lightdm-gtk-greeter doesn't seem to have a configuration setting though
[22:59] <deebee> Takyoji[laptop]: overheating could cause issues which in turn might cause a kernel panic, yes
[23:00] <phiscibe> get a tempature monitor and let it run and log for awhile
[23:00] <Nazosan> (rather it doesn't have a setting for resolution)
[23:00] <Takyoji[laptop]> it says 'not tainted' as an aside
[23:00] <yagoo> Nazosan, u can make a default xorg.conf file (X -configure)  , do a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf (like mv xorg.conf xorg.con_bak0), then copy ~/xorg.org.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:00] <yagoo> Nazosan, u dont need to restart X yet.. u can pastebin so i can tell u where to place the default line
[23:01] <Fishscene> Hello all. I'm having GREAT difficulty getting vmware tools to install/work in 11.10.
[23:01] <master> I run ubuntu in a windows vmware box
[23:01] <Nazosan> well, I can't run X -configure while X is running
[23:01] <Takyoji[laptop]> BUG: Warning at kernel/panic.c:137/panic() (Not tainted)
[23:01] <Fishscene> Issues are: VMware tools CD won't mount (or mounts temporarily, then unmounts), and the networking stack keeps crashing
[23:01] <yagoo> Takyoji[laptop], some processor chips have built-in protection so that when they overheat they command a system shutdown
[23:02] <yagoo> Nazosan, try X -- :1 -configure , or X :1 -configure
[23:02] <yeats> Fishscene: probably should ask in #vmware
[23:02] <Nazosan> as for pasting, there's not much to paste.  It has a "screen" section that just defines the default depth for the default screen and tells it to load a glx module
[23:02] <master> Fishscene, yeah. I had to log in as root for the autoloader to work
[23:02] <master> automounter
[23:02] <yagoo> Nazosan, pastebin the newly generated xorg.conf.new
[23:02] <robin0800> Nazosan, think resolutions are now xrandr now
[23:03] <Nazosan> It informed me that it couldn't load the module "vmwgfx" or FireGL's DRM library and failed to produce a new xorg.conf
[23:03]  * yagoo wants to ask on behalf of Nazosan, a way to set resolution for the login greeter
[23:03] <SinnerNyx> can I place routes directly in /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:03] <dibs> Im upgrading and am at the "Remove obsolete packages" screen. Should I remove them or will I risk things breaking?
[23:04] <yagoo> Nazosan, what about in your user x session, can you get a good resolution?
[23:04] <yeats> dibs: it should be safe
[23:04] <Takyoji[laptop]> Symptoms are: system boots/runs, then a kernel panic, then the VGA display slowly gets distorted for like 10 seconds, then it just completely shuts down.
[23:04] <robinsch> anyone else get error when they try to launch gnome control center?
[23:04] <Nazosan> Well, in the user session I was able to run the configuration and set it to native.  It just didn't apply it to the login screen.
[23:04] <robinsch> gnome-control-center users-account
[23:04] <Nazosan> so it's using a per-user setting basically.
[23:04] <robinsch> does that work for anyone?
[23:04] <yeats> Takyoji[laptop]: check /var/log/syslog for any messages preceding the panic
[23:04] <master> Routes on multicard machines are really hard to get to setup permanently
[23:04] <Takyoji[laptop]> I've even had inelligible text at the BIOS screen, with things being offset, or wrong
[23:04] <Nazosan> Why on earth you'd want a per-user resolution setting _by default_ is beyond me.  (I can think of a rare few cases it might be good, but it shouldn't be default IMO)
[23:05] <dibs> yeats: almost there
[23:05] <yeats> Takyoji[laptop]: then that's almost certainly a hardware problem, not OS-related
[23:05] <Nazosan> Anyway, I'm guessing that nothing short of actually closing down X will do for this test.
[23:06] <Takyoji[laptop]> as I've been thinking; hence I resorted to asking if the kernel panics upon overheating
[23:06] <hanasaki> trying to login with gnome3 on 11.10 but it keeps going back to unity
[23:06] <robinsch> how can I get alt+tab to work properly?
[23:06] <Takyoji[laptop]> and syslog isn't available in this case; it's CentOS-based, I know it's the wrong place to ask in a way. xP
[23:06] <yeats> dibs: great!  took less time than you thought ;-)
[23:07] <coolnick> hi, my network connection do not work properly
[23:07] <robinsch> it won't show byobu terminal in alt + tab
[23:07] <coolnick> I am in ubuntu 11.10
[23:07] <dibs> yeats: yeah totally, Just hoping it goes smoothly. I lost everything when upgrading to natty and was not impressed.
[23:07] <robinsch> very annoying
[23:07] <Nazosan> Hmm...  what's the best console chat client?  I used to use BitchX, but it seems like it's officially considered to be outdated and exploitable or something?
[23:07] <yagoo> Nazosan, irssi
[23:07] <Nazosan> Ok, I'll just stick that in a screen
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Nazosan: irssi rules
[23:08] <Fishscene> Quite frankly, I'm disappointed with the lack of documentation of the problem I'm having.
[23:08] <yagoo> Nazosan, gu can also see a list of alternatives- > google "list of irc site:wikipedia.org"
[23:08] <dibs> yeats: Yay! restart. See you guys on the other side!
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> Nazosan: use buyobu, it's an extension of screen
[23:08] <yeats> Takyoji[laptop]: definitely the wrong place to ask, but still almost certainly not OS-related anyway
[23:08] <Nazosan> I already do MonkeyDust.  I love it.
[23:08] <coolnick> I have the ranlink rt5390  network card
[23:08] <Nazosan> Love it to death.  Especially how it can set itself to run when you log in so everything is in a screen.
[23:08] <Nazosan> anyway, brb
[23:09] <robinsch> What does this mean?
[23:09] <robinsch> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:  msr-tools libaio1 seabios cpu-checker vgabios
[23:09] <phiscibe> ircII or something like that isok
[23:09] <phiscibe> or consule
[23:09] <coolnick> i have no idea what to do
[23:09] <phiscibe> for consolue
[23:09] <robinsch> HELP
[23:10] <yeats> robinsch: it means that those packages were installed for a package that has gotten removed - 'sudo apt-get autoremove' will get rid of them
[23:10] <phiscibe> that is not a error robin, just a message telling they are safe to unistall
[23:11] <robinsch> ok
[23:11] <Nazosan> Looks like irssi will work fine.
[23:12] <Nazosan> now here's a question...  How do I actually kill X?  Since it uses a service for the login screen...
[23:12] <robinsch> I installed Virtual Machine Manager thinking that it was like vmware but it wasn't
[23:12] <robinsch> disappointed
[23:12] <Fishscene> What's the name of the linux firewall?
[23:12] <Fishscene> I need to remove that god-forsaken peace of crap
[23:13] <luca> is it possible to install gnome core without gdm??
[23:13] <mingdao_home> Fishscene: iptables
[23:13] <Fishscene> ok thanks
[23:13] <yeats> !ufw | Fishscene
[23:13] <luca> some experts suggest to install gnome shell instead of unity
[23:13] <yeats> !gnome3 | luca
[23:13] <Fishscene> ok thanks guys. Sorry. I'm a bit frustrated that I'm locked out of my server files.
[23:14] <luca> Ubuntu 11.10 is not Natty!!!
[23:14] <yeats> luca: correct
[23:14] <Onlyodin> When was 11.10 released?
[23:14] <coolnick> is it oneric?
[23:14] <robin0800> Nazosan, its in keyboard and then options to set ctr+alt+delete
[23:14] <luca> can u understand my question?
[23:14] <SetiAmon> a few days ago
[23:14] <SetiAmon> but everythings broke
[23:14] <deebee> SinnerNyx: Fishscene: Am I understanding correctly? You can't install VMware Tools because the disk won't mount, and you can't download them because the network won't work?
[23:14] <lilrubyprog> Hey
[23:14] <master> I think 11.05 is natty
[23:14] <master> 11.04
[23:15] <SetiAmon> !sound
[23:15] <Dyrcona> 11.10 is Oneiric. I just got the upgrade today.
[23:15] <yeats> luca: read what ubottu send more carefully
[23:15] <Nazosan> Er, what?  ctrl+alt+delete would just reboot.  You mean backspace?  The problem is, it will just restart.
[23:15] <yeats> s/send/sent/
[23:15] <coolnick> i am having problems with the wirelees network
[23:15] <coolnick> what do i do?
[23:15] <SinnerNyx> deebee, nope. i dont know what's happening :p
[23:15] <Fishscene> deebee: The network in 11.10 crashes at random, a filesystem check is triggered every time I boot, and I can NOT get in remotely with SSH, despite removing IPTables and not having ufw installed.
[23:15] <Nazosan> Hmm..  Thena gain, even ctrl+alt+backspace seems to do nothing
[23:15] <luca> I've already installed gnome-shell package
[23:16] <deebee> SinnerNyx: Sorry, meant for Fishscene.
[23:16] <Fishscene> oh, I forgot to mention, it can't connect to the network or something like that for 60 seconds, which adds to the boot time.
[23:16] <master> I think the xserver disables all interface but loop
[23:16] <jgcampbell300> can anyone point me to a good guide to install ubuntu server , apache, dns, php, cgi, ispconfig 3 etc...
[23:16] <yeats> luca: I do not understand what you were asking then
[23:16] <phiscibe> coolnick, ive been catalaloging bugs an a blog, how fun..,.http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/  but there is one bug listed there about dbus and it effects networking
[23:16] <jgcampbell300> i been googleing this for hours getting no where
[23:16] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: ctl+alt+del will first kill X
[23:16] <bazhang> phiscibe, no advertising here
[23:16] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: try it :-)
[23:16] <Nazosan> alright, I'll try that.  If I reboot, I'm putting a blood curse on you.
[23:16] <phiscibe> its a bug and fix list
[23:16] <coolnick> phiscibe: for all networks cards?
[23:17] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: np d00d
[23:17] <luca> I didn't install gnome-tweak-tool is it important for gnome shell?
[23:17] <bazhang> phiscibe, nonetheless dont advertise here
[23:17] <coolnick> i have ralink rt5390
[23:17] <Nazosan> Hmm...  No reboot, but no killed X either
[23:17] <visionvi1us> g_evening
[23:17] <luca> the question was: is it possible to install gnome core package without
[23:17] <luca> gdm?
[23:17] <phiscibe> there is new scheme for where var and run go and if it gets messed up in the upgrade dbus might not run connreclty and thenrefore network manger dies
[23:17] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: here it gives me a logout dialog box
[23:17] <richthegeek> hi - I just installed 11.10 (from fresh, not an upgrade) and Unity will *not* log in
[23:17] <master> I'm using unity and xdm
[23:17] <Nazosan> Well, I'm trying to kill the service used for the login screen since it uses X
[23:17] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: I'm not a normal Ubuntu user, but other distros cause that to kill X
[23:18] <deebee> Fishscene: and this is all on Ubuntu within a VM?
[23:18] <tdebat> Hi I'm running 11.10 on VirtualBox. When I start an application I can see the title bar but there is no window. So I can see the Firefox menu bar but not a Firefox browser window. Any thoughts on what I need to change to be able to see the window?
[23:18] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: well, I'm not  a DE user, either
[23:18] <Fishscene> deebee: Yes.
[23:18] <phiscibe> rich, i have nice list of know problems and solutions but i cant show it too you soory
[23:18] <qin> luca: you can disable gdm, or remove
[23:18] <Nazosan> once logged in maybe ctrl+alt+delete does that, but on the login screen it does nothing
[23:18] <deebee> Fishscene: had it been working previously, or is it a fresh install that's always been broken?
[23:18] <luca> if you remove gdm you have to remove also gnome-core package
[23:18] <phiscibe> been building the list for days, o well
[23:18] <visionvi1us> somebody got an idea why my adhoc wifi network is just working without encryption?
[23:18] <Fishscene> Everything was working perfectly fine until I upgraded to 11.10.
[23:18] <master> Ctrl-Alt-F1 takes you to a terminal .. at least it should
[23:19] <Nazosan> I may have to reboot and force it to init level 2 or something.  Anyone know the "cheat code" for Ubuntu doing that?
[23:19] <akira__> phiscibe want another bug report for your blog?
[23:19] <richthegeek> phiscibe: what?
[23:19] <yeats> luca: so I guess that answers your question
[23:19] <qin> luca: I ment from upstart.
[23:19] <Fishscene> Everything seemed to be fine, so I committed the VM, but it seems I messed up big time.
[23:19] <keith_linux123> Hey , is their away to link the unity search into google
[23:19] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT START + SELECT
[23:19] <phiscibe> akira__:  u are a destoryer of unixezzz
[23:19] <Nazosan> -.-
[23:19] <luca> qin: how?
[23:19] <osmosis> ubuntu 11.10 wont install on this laptop, so i guess Im going to have to sell the laptop
[23:19] <bazhang> Gentoo64, thats not helpful
[23:19] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: ctl+alt+f1 will give you another console; ctl+alt+f7 will bring you back
[23:19] <Nazosan> Hey, it wasn't _MY_ idea for them to start calling boot parameters "cheat codes" -.-
[23:19] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: I don't understand exactly where you are and what you want to do
[23:20] <Nazosan> mingdao_home: that's all well and good, but I need to kill X
[23:20] <akira__> x.x NIN great destroyer
[23:20] <luca> yeats: it's not answer my question because i don't know if it's better only unity only gnome shell or both
[23:20] <master> Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... login as root and kill X
[23:20] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: go to another console, issue "ps aux | grep X" and kill the pid
[23:20] <qin> luca: sudo service gdm stop; (to stop) then start xserver and gnome by startx or xinit
[23:20] <richthegeek> phiscibe: you mentioned a list of known issues - if you have such a list just link it instead of being sarcy
[23:20] <bazhang> mingdao_home, thats not the correct way
[23:20] <robin0800> Nazosan, its not set by default you have to set it
[23:20] <SetiAmon> Is there more update place i can get help
[23:20] <Gentoo64> osmosis: what?
[23:21] <Nazosan> haven't ever tried that have you mingdao_home?
[23:21] <SetiAmon> all the sound faqs are useless
[23:21] <mingdao_home> bazhang: then tell Nazosan the correct way
[23:21] <Nazosan> the problem is, they use a service now that will restart if killed
[23:21] <yeats> luca: you will only learn which you prefer by trying each one - which is not really a support issue
[23:21] <luca> qin: luca@luca-Satellite-A200:~$ sudo service gdm stop
[23:21] <luca> [sudo] password for luca:
[23:21] <luca> stop: Unknown instance:
[23:21] <qin> luca: to remove rc.update -f gdm remove|disable (you may find better method)
[23:21] <master> The sound faqs are outdated and missing important info
[23:21] <deebee> Fishscene: so what's your priority? Getting ssh access working?
[23:21] <SetiAmon> I need to get either pulse audio working right or get oss4 to work right
[23:21] <bazhang> mingdao_home, please dont comment if you are not sure
[23:21] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: I haven't ever needed to kill X and compile the magic sysrq in my kernel for when "all else fails:
[23:21] <mingdao_home> bazhang: kill mine, and comment if you knonw
[23:21] <qin> luca: Is it Oneiric? There is no more gdm
[23:21] <osmosis> Gentoo64, I have a samsung series 9 laptop.  Ive tried doing a clean install of Ubuntu 11.10, full erase of HD.  Every time, after install completes I try to boot up, and it looks like a bootloader fail.
[23:21] <mingdao_home> bazhang: it WILL kill X
[23:21] <phiscibe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/709040/  jsut a raw copy of the text
[23:22] <Fishscene> deebee: Priority 1: get ssh working so I can SFTP in and grab data off.
[23:22] <luca> yes it's Oneiric
[23:22] <Nazosan> Well, if anyone remembers how to get it to start "in text mode" (eg runlevel 2) that would work great
[23:22] <osmosis> Gentoo64, i never see grub, and I just see the screen flash over and over again
[23:22] <Nazosan> I haven't had to do that with a real linux distro in a long time
[23:22] <luca> qin: I installed gdm package
[23:22] <qin> luca: There is lighdm
[23:22] <Gentoo64> osmosis: selling the laptop is a bit extreme. try older ubuntu maybe?
[23:22] <osmosis> Gentoo64, might have to do with this laptop support EFI , but I have no ideas on what to troubleshoot next.
[23:22] <Fishscene> I can't SFTP from the server TO my house because that's rejecting ssh connections (ubuntu 11.10)
[23:22] <mingdao_home> Nazosan: Ubuntu is not a *real* Linux distro ... it's been hacked and patched and doesn't work like a *real* Linux distro
[23:22] <luca> qin: if u want to install gome-core u must install also gdm
[23:22] <deebee> Fishscene: Ok, have you done any network troubleshooting? E.g, pinging the VM?
[23:23] <richthegeek> phiscibe: thanks .. I suspect it's to with my graphics card (Radeon 6850) not being supported
[23:23] <Gentoo64> mingdao_home: seen you somehwere before lol
[23:23] <deebee> Fishscene: or pinging hosts from within the VM
[23:23] <Nazosan> mingdao_home: "real" as in not a live rescue disc distro like Knoppix.
[23:23] <qin> luca: ps aux | grep dm
[23:23] <dark_eye> mingdao_home: yeah it's just a debian patched and hacked
[23:23] <robin0800> mingdao_home, so does ctr+alt+delete if its set
[23:23] <phiscibe> without more error messages hard say
[23:23] <Fishscene> deebee: Good question. Seems I can't ping from the VM to anywhere.
[23:23] <mingdao_home> robin0800: if it was a *real* Linux distro it would be set
[23:23] <phiscibe> maybe you and look at the kernel log
[23:23] <mingdao_home> but it's a Windoze refugee landing pad
[23:23] <Nazosan> It may be set once you log in
[23:23] <Fishscene> apparently the network has completely shut down for it. Let me revert my VM
[23:23] <deebee> Fishscene: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[23:23] <sam555> hello all
[23:23] <bazhang> !ot > mingdao_home
[23:24] <Nazosan> just not on the login creen
[23:24] <deebee> Fishscene: ok
[23:24] <sam555> what is the command to see when the computer has restarted?
[23:24] <sam555> the shell command
[23:24] <luca> qin: I know there is also lightdm
[23:24] <robin0800> mingdao_home, its easy enough to set though
[23:24] <Fishscene> deebee: I only have a local adapter. No network adapter
[23:24] <carnau> Hi, I have a separate home for my documents, and I'm installing ubuntu 11.04. I maked the partitions and I don't format my home partition. If I encrypt my home from the menu, It will be formated?
[23:24] <Gentoo64> Fishscene: you running ubuntu in vbox?
[23:24] <qin> luca: What do you intend to do?
[23:24] <deebee> Fishscene: ok, well revert the VM and let me know what happens
[23:24] <Nazosan> wasn't there a way to change runlevels on the fly?
[23:24] <deebee> Fishscene: I'm guessing you don't have a snapshot pre-upgrade anymore? :)
[23:24] <luca> qin: I want to see avi as in the previous version
[23:25] <luca> qin: here I cannot see avi
[23:25] <Fishscene> deebee: If I can get my files off, I can revert to pre-upgrade
[23:25] <joao> I can't find the solution for
[23:25] <joao> E: The value 'stable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[23:25] <qin> luca: avi as of file extention
[23:25] <phiscibe> use the manual option not the guided and itshould be safe, there is a known bug where if you have a swap file the install ignores it and makes another
[23:25] <phiscibe> swap partition that is
[23:25] <master> So has anyone tried to use Ensoniq 1371 drivers?
[23:25] <joao> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:25] <joao> bug
[23:25] <zouzou> hi
[23:25] <luca> qin: Yes I cannot see avi videos
[23:25] <Fishscene> deebee: Retrieving files now  \:D/
[23:25] <joao> it has been reported
[23:26] <qin> luca: Have you installe restricted?
[23:26] <deebee> Fishscene: glad it's working for you :)
[23:26] <qin> *d
[23:26] <joao> saw something saying synaptic has been dropped? can't be...right?
[23:26] <phiscibe> joao: are you sure that is not a typo in your sources.list?
[23:26] <phiscibe> dropped our nearly dropped
[23:26] <zouzou> can someone please answer me if there is a way i could see the dvd or usb stick i insert in  my laptop on the desktop again on ubuntu 11.10 like it did in 11.04 and even before?
[23:26] <Fishscene> deebee: Sometimes I need someone to slap me into "think through" mode. Thanks!
[23:26] <deebee> Fishscene: you can actually mount VMware disk images to read files from them in a lot of situations. Worth knowing for the future if you didn't already
[23:26] <joao> phiscibe, you mean stable?
[23:26] <luca> qin: restricted extra u mean? there isn't restricted
[23:26] <deebee> Fishscene: we all do it from time to time :)
[23:27] <zouzou> anyone please?
[23:27] <Fishscene> deebee: Also, I discovered I can have multiple snapshots now, so when I said I had committed the VM, I thought I was overwriting my old snapshots.
[23:27] <Gentoo64> zouzou: go in the file manager?
[23:27] <Gentoo64> or is that not an option
[23:27] <akira__> what do i do if my installed packages have unmet dependencies?
[23:27] <deebee> Fishscene: snapshots are your friend, especially when it comes to major system changes :)
[23:28] <beto> hello, don't know if this is the right place to look for a newbie to look forhelp, can't change resolution on  ubuntu 11.10
[23:28] <zouzou> when i put in a dvd iit shows on the taskbar to the left. i want it to also show on the desktop
[23:28] <madbovine> guys quick question...is thunderbird integrated into gnome 3.2 at all?
[23:28] <Fishscene> Yea. I'm just used to this version only having 1 snapshot, which is why I'm super careful with upgrading :P
[23:28] <phiscibe> what happens when u insert the usb and check for messages? zouzou?  like dmesg |tail
[23:28] <joao> can anyone send me their sources.list for oneiric please?
[23:28] <beto> i've googled and rad for 2 straigh hours, still no way :(
[23:29] <luca> madbovine: thunderbird works very good with gnome 3.2
[23:29] <Gentoo64> damn maybe 11.10 is optimized for virtualbox just tried it a second ago and all works 100% smooth
[23:29] <zouzou> nothing
[23:29] <zouzou> it can't read the usb
[23:29] <robin0800> beto, its now in xrandr
[23:29] <luca> Gentoo64: I cannot see avi videos can u see?
[23:29] <zouzou> but i'll fix that later
[23:29] <Gentoo64> luca: didnt try that
[23:29] <zouzou> now i wanna fix my dvd problem
[23:29] <phiscibe> Thunderbird is included as the default email client. This now includes menu and launcher integration via Unity.
[23:29] <master> So how can I get ubuntu to load hardware found in lspci?
[23:29] <luca> Gentoo64: try now please I can't see them
[23:29] <svens-> Gentoo64, there are multiple vbox issues on 11.10
[23:30] <akira__> error broken count > 0 -
[23:30] <akira__> ?
[23:30] <Gentoo64> luca: its gone now
[23:30] <Satanaa> Everytime my box goes to "screensaver" and make a movement, it just shows a black screen, and i have no way to get to the desktop than to reboot.. can anyone PLEASE help me?
[23:30] <phiscibe> oh sorry message overload
[23:30] <beto> I've tried, but first problems comes: "1024x768_75.00"  81.80  1024 1080 1192 1360  768 769 772 802  -HSync +Vsync
[23:30] <Gentoo64> Satanaa: disable screensaver
[23:30] <qin> luca: 1 sofware sources, enable all, 2 install restricted extas, 3 do not wreck your system that soon.
[23:30] <Satanaa> Gentoo64 i have tried
[23:30] <Satanaa> no go
[23:31] <Gentoo64> Satanaa: try power options (or similar) and disable screen blanking?
[23:31] <Satanaa> Ubuntu is known for ignoring users setups ;)
[23:31] <Satanaa> same
[23:31] <beto> sorry should be "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[23:31] <phiscibe> Satanaa:  i have seen 50 ppl with this bug at the errors invovling blank screen dead network dbus locked pid
[23:32] <Satanaa> phiscibe and how did they fix it?
[23:32] <Gentoo64> they need to sort it out its supposed to be a user friendly distro
[23:32] <Gentoo64> all itll do is put ppl off linux
[23:33] <phiscibe> igot links to the fixes and causes but ive been prohibited from sharing cause i put it on a blog i made over nite and its advertising, go readd the realease notes its here too
[23:33] <phiscibe> well not realy
[23:33] <Satanaa> Gentoo64 if you ask me, gentoo is more userfriendly when all fails
[23:33] <phiscibe> it despribes teh problem but nothe symptons
[23:33] <share> how can I play a .f4v file?
[23:33] <phiscibe> its the problem with the new /var /run directories....most likley
[23:33] <Satanaa> phiscibe did they use a hp mini 1000 too by any chance?
[23:34] <akira__> does 11.1 require you to install wine 1.2.2?
[23:34] <Gentoo64> akira__: nothing requires wine
[23:34] <akira__> well ive been trying to install wine for 48hours- and still 0 luck :(
[23:34] <Satanaa> i think akira__ means if you only can install 1.2.2
[23:34] <akira__> yea
[23:34] <Satanaa> akira__ go to the winehq website and get the repo from there
[23:35] <danslo> building wine is a bith =) just get an updated PPA
[23:35] <robinsch> do i have to install the restricted extra to make flash work?
[23:35] <danslo> s/bith/bitch/
[23:35] <Satanaa> err d-d will come after you :P
[23:35] <Gentoo64> ^ swearing and recommending a ppa. thats a double ban right there
[23:36] <danslo> Gentoo64: hahahaha
[23:36] <akira__> i  got a red dot on the top of my screen with a white ---- that says my installed packages have unmet dependencies
[23:36] <yeats> robinsch: no, but the ubuntu-restricted-extras package should include flash
[23:37] <robinsch> yeats: i know chromium browser has built-in flash right?
[23:37] <Gentoo64> robinsch: no
[23:37] <Gentoo64> chrome has
[23:37] <Nazosan> Well, I can't even figure out how to get it to start in "text mode"
[23:37] <robinsch> ah
[23:38] <Nazosan> in fact, apparently runlevel 2 is "graphical mode" now
[23:38] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: why do you want text mode?
[23:38] <qin> Nazosan: shift at boot and e to edit and replace splash with text and ctrl-x to boot and happy
[23:38] <danslo> Nazosan: sudo service lightdm stop
[23:38] <Nazosan> because I need X to not be running long enough to run that one command
[23:38] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: dont ctrl alt f2 do it?
[23:39] <Nazosan> ah, that was perfect danslo
[23:39] <taowa> !cloak
[23:39] <master> No it looks like module snd_ens1371 is no longer included in ubuntu!!!
[23:39] <Nazosan> weird I couldn't find it in the list, but it didn't help that "services --status-all" wouldn't output properly through less/etc
[23:39] <danslo> Nazosan: yeah.. had the same problem today :) then it struck me they changed from gdm to lightdm
[23:39] <Nazosan> All for nothing though
[23:40] <Nazosan> X -configure doesn't work
[23:40] <Phail_Quail> Is there a petition somewhere that I can sign to help prevent Ubuntu, which used to be a really neat OS, from traveling further down the fail path it seems to be on? (i.e. Unity, et al)
[23:40] <Nazosan> Phail_Quail: just run Xubuntu
[23:40] <master> Does anybody know how to get snd-ens1371 to build for my kernel?
[23:40] <qin> !nounity Phail_Quail
[23:40] <slinkeey> Hello
[23:40] <crash1hd> what happened to the Sticky Notes program in ubuntu 11.10?
[23:40] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: its still ubuntu
[23:40] <Nazosan> No Unity et al
[23:40] <Gentoo64> crash1hd: search for tomboy
[23:41] <Phail_Quail> It is not just Unity - this is the first Ubuntu that doesn't recognize my monitor, my mouse, or my keyboard out-of-the-box. All previous issues worked flawlessly.
[23:41] <slinkeey> In ubuntu 11.40 I have been fighting with a slow nautilus problem...  I have googled it
[23:41] <crash1hd> Gentoo64, yeah but thats not the same
[23:41] <Gentoo64> tomboy notes wasnt it?
[23:41] <slinkeey> Nautilus also stops responding
[23:41] <phiscibe> Nazosan: aint it Xorg-conf nowadays?
[23:41] <Nazosan> Ok, so robin0800, I finally got it to where I could kill X to run X -cofigure and it just says "number of created screens does not match number of devices.  Configuration failed."  No new xorg.conf file.
[23:41] <crash1hd> tomboy notes keeps the notes inside a window Sticky Notes used to just show the notes like post its
[23:41] <Nazosan> phiscibe: I'll try that then
[23:42] <Gentoo64> crash1hd: try a search for notes then
[23:42] <Nazosan> no command found
[23:42] <slinkeey> when I press the[X] to close nautilus it says that it is not responding.
[23:42] <danslo> Phail_Quail: I kinda agree with you... they seem to be slowly moving towards completely emulating OSX... it started with unity, now nautilus looks almost completely like OSX finder... maybe it is time to move back to debian and just install gnome3
[23:42] <phiscibe> maybe Xorg --configure
[23:42] <phiscibe> man Xorg
[23:42] <Gentoo64> slinkeey: try killall nautilus
[23:42] <phiscibe> the caps matter
[23:42] <Nazosan> unrecognized option --configure, lol
[23:42] <crash1hd> Gentoo64, yeah thats why i am asking as its no longer in the sotware center
[23:42] <phiscibe> but u gotta be out of X
[23:42] <vasi> I don't seem to be able to add/remove items in the Nautilus sidebar....when i right-click "Remove" and "Rename" are grayed out....any idea how to deal?
[23:42] <slinkeey> That is what I do
[23:42] <Gentoo64> crash1hd: ah not sure then
[23:43] <phiscibe> one -
[23:43] <vasi> phiscibe, i think it's "Xorg -configure" with one dash
[23:43] <phiscibe> -configure
[23:43] <qin> Phail_Quail: it is !notunity, i really like buzz and new, but bsd folks prefer late '90s
[23:43] <crash1hd> Gentoo64, no problem :)
[23:43] <luca> Why i can't see video avi with ubuntu 11.10??? Someone can help me
[23:43] <Nazosan> why do so many things fail to output in a way that works with things like more/less/etc?
[23:43] <phiscibe> is dbus dead
[23:43] <Nazosan> ok, Xorg -configure gives me the same error that X -configure did
[23:43] <slinkeey> Gentoo64  that is what I do to kill it, but next time I use it it still acts up
[23:43] <phiscibe> you have to but OUT of X
[23:43] <Nazosan> I am out of X
[23:43] <Phail_Quail> danslo: Is that what we're going to have to do? I've been with Ubuntu since 8.04 and now Ubuntu is completely unrecognizable. Why does Ubuntu feel the need to emulate OSX and Windows when it was already head-and-shoulders above those two? Does it really have nothing else to contribute to the software community these days?
[23:43] <phiscibe> and mabye sudo
[23:43] <yellow> submarine
[23:43] <Nazosan> lightdm is stopped
[23:44] <phiscibe> what the error
[23:44] <Nazosan> sudo su
[23:44] <MaGiK> DONT
[23:44] <MaGiK> ^^
[23:44] <phiscibe> is GDM stopped
[23:44] <bazhang> yellow, stop that
[23:44] <MaGiK> sudo -i
[23:44] <Gentoo64> Phail_Quail: look at windows 8
[23:44] <Guest39133> Hi, I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 earlier today. Everything works fine apart from it seems svery half an hour or so the internet stops working. The wireless is still connected, I can ping the router. I can log into the router via the web interface. So it would appear it's just that my internet ius down. But if I reconnect to the wirelss router the internet works instantly. So it looks like the tr
[23:44] <Gentoo64> theyre all going the same way
[23:44] <bazhang> Phail_Quail, thats not a support issue
[23:44] <Nazosan> Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed.
[23:44] <osmosis> Phail_Quail,  i just installed 11.10, and am loving the new interface.  So much better.
[23:45] <Gentoo64> Nazosan: su wont work
[23:45] <phiscibe> ive seen that
[23:45] <Varazir> Do I need to have grub when I PXE boot ?
[23:45] <Guest39133> the trouble is with the OS?... (I have had mint 10 and ubuntu 10.10 running fine within the last few days with no newtowrk trouble)
[23:45] <Phail_Quail> bazhang: It most certainly is! Ubuntu went from a perfectly functional OS to a broken copy-cat OS. I'm voicing my concern over my favorite OS. Why doesn't my monitor, mouse, or keyboard work out-of-the-box like all other Ubuntu releases?
[23:45] <Success> why cant i talk
[23:45] <Nazosan> sudo just runs things as root
[23:45] <Gentoo64> Phail_Quail: monitor?
[23:45] <Nazosan> therefore sudo su does the same thing
[23:45] <MaGiK> Nazosan, sudo su can f*** the computer better use sudo -i =)
[23:45] <Gentoo64> lol
[23:45] <bazhang> Phail_Quail, this is support only. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic ; suggestions to brainstorm
[23:46] <Nazosan> anyway, if I sudo X -configure as a user instead, I get the same error.
[23:46] <Varazir> grub keeps nagging that it can't find devices
[23:46] <Flannel> Phail_Quail: Whether that's correct or not, #ubuntu-offtopic would be the place for grievances.  This channel is just for technical support.  Thnks.
[23:46] <phiscibe> Naz do u have multi monitors, if so i got a crude idea of what happened
[23:46] <Nazosan> I do have multiple monitors
[23:46] <vimojnguoi_> #ubuntu-vn
[23:46] <Nazosan> shall I disconnect one?
[23:46] <ederico> hello everyone, I updated from Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. Does anybody know if and how I could revert to the previous ALT-TAB window switcher? I don't like the fact that know when I use that I get to switch through all windows, rather than just the ones on the workspace I'm on (I prefer the latter)
[23:46] <phiscibe> ok crap this will htake a bit of xplaing
[23:46] <Fishscene> Guest39133: I am also having much difficulty with 11.10 and networking. Are you running it in a VM?
[23:46] <Nazosan> Lol, sorry.
[23:46] <Gentoo64> Fishscene: virtualbox?
[23:47] <Guest39133> Fishscene: no Its not ina  VM
[23:47] <Nazosan> I don't mind disconnecting one, but I have to make the configuration work when it's reconnected later
[23:47] <Success> hello anyone hear me?
[23:47] <Fishscene> Gentoo64: VMware ESXi 4.x
[23:47] <Gentoo64> Success: yes
[23:47] <deebee> Success: yes, we can
[23:47] <Guest39133> sucess: yes
[23:47] <simple_user> !md5
[23:47] <Phail_Quail> They only discuss silly things in #Ubuntu-offtopic. I went in there one night and they were discussing fried chicken. I'm not trying to troll; I'm genuinely curious why Ubuntu can't be Ubuntu anymore! What's the deal guys?
[23:47] <Gentoo64> Fishscene: ok. dont know about that
[23:47] <Mony> Success, no, we cant, please call again
[23:47] <Flannel> Phail_Quail: That question is for #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  If you bring it up there, that will be the topic.  Discussions like that aren't for this channel.
[23:48] <Success> ok 2 things. I have sattelite tv plugin in computer i used to watch with windows media center, anything like that for ubuntu , is must have or im screwed and stuck with winfail and a good html editor
[23:48] <Varazir> When I upgraded my ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 I got errors on  linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic
[23:48] <Nazosan> phiscibe: hold on just a moment.  I started without the vga= parameter just in case and I'm going absolutely batty with this ancient 80x25 interface.  I'm going to reboot again back to a higher resolution console.
[23:48] <Gentoo64> Phail_Quail: they try to make the ui more modern and user friendly to attract more people i guess.
[23:48] <qin> !notunity | Phail_Quail, you can have it like you like
[23:48] <Varazir> and friendly-recovery  memtest86+ ubuntu-standard grub-pc linux-image-generic linux-generic
[23:49] <Goen> Hi everybody! i just added a new line to my crontab... its supposed to play a mp3-file every 1Minute (using mplayer).. it starts to do it every 1min BUT interrupts after 1sec. of playing the file.. does anyone know why this happens?
[23:49] <phiscibe> im typing what is, short story new way xrandr handles stuff, and multi monitors and diplsay moes
[23:49] <phiscibe> modes
[23:49] <slinkeey> I am going to reinstall nautilus and hope for the best... Wish me luck! :)
[23:49] <phiscibe> let me pull my thoughts toghter
[23:49] <Gentoo64> slinkeey: prob wont do anything at all
[23:49] <Gentoo64> but good luck
[23:50] <Success> alls i want lamp w/ apache mysql php/perl/python/cgis
[23:50] <Success> also i want*
[23:50] <Nazosan> whew.  SO much better
[23:50] <Flannel> Success: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP walks you through setting that up.  Read it through, come back here if you have questions or run into problems.
[23:51] <Success> any responses with the tv thing, its most important
[23:51] <slinkeey> gentooxe64, wh do you think it acts up?
[23:51] <Phail_Quail> I voice my grievances in #Ubuntu-offtopic and I'm told that "I phail", and I am asked why this was sent there
[23:51] <Guest39133> Hi, I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10 earlier today. Everything works fine apart from it seems svery half an hour or so the internet stops working. The wireless is still connected, I can ping the router. I can log into the router via the web interface. So it would appear it's just that my internet ius down. But if I reconnect to the wirelss router the internet works instantly. So is it an os problem?
[23:51] <Nazosan> Ok, was I supposed to do to get it to generate an xorg.conf with multiple monitors?
[23:51] <deebee> Success: I don't do home theater on Linux myself, but maybe look into MythTV?
[23:52] <Zelda> is there an application that will allow me to throttle down the cpu and power?
[23:52] <Zelda> running 11.10
[23:52] <ushar> Has anyone here leveraged VT-d to play games in a VM? If so, please tell me about your experience. How was the performance?
[23:52] <Guest39133> ...it seems strange to me anyway ( I have had ubuntu 11.04 and 10.10 installed and working fine within the past few days)
[23:52] <timothy> yes zelda irs alled xfce
[23:52] <Nazosan> PowerNow and Cool'n'Quiet are built into the kernel now aren't they?  My CPU is currently running at its minimum of 800MHz
[23:52] <Success> zelda: i want overclocking stuff too count me in
[23:52] <Fishscene> Guest39133: The next time it goes out, type in terminal: "ifconfig" and send the output to pastebin.
[23:53] <Zelda> irs alled? " its called?
[23:53] <Phail_Quail> Way to kick me
[23:54] <Zelda> xfce thats a desktop environment right? What does that do that ubuntu one doesnt?
[23:54] <Guest39133> oh it just went out just now, and I reconnected..and its working again
[23:54] <Flannel> Phail_Quail: This channel is for technical support, not a soapbox for your whining.  About Ubuntu, or about #ubuntu-offtopic.  There's 1600 people in this channel, please help keep it ontopic.
[23:54] <Nazosan> Zelda: cat /proc/cpuinfo.  I'll bet your CPU isn't running full speed
[23:54] <Zelda> errr unity.
[23:54] <Guest39133> Fishscene: yes I'll do it next time it does..probably within the next 5 minutes..
[23:54] <Zelda> my fan is running high.
[23:55] <Nazosan> Hmm...  Well, my relatively new-ish CPU has Cool'n'Quiet 3 and works fine so far in Xubuntu at least.  It's running 800MHz and I can't hear the fan
[23:55] <Guest39133> Fishscene: bare in mind though that it does seem it is connected to the router still when the internet is not working..
[23:55] <Zelda> Nazosan: cool and quiet is probably what Im talkin about.
[23:55] <zacarias> My Firefox 3.6.23 is crashing. Help!
[23:55] <Zelda> Im running an older cpu. t8400 DC
[23:55] <Nazosan> AMD has "Cool'n'Quiet" and Intel has "PowerNow."  They're ultimately basically the same thing.
[23:55] <Fishscene> Guest39133: Correct. However, if there is a configuration error (as I suspect in this case), it is possible to talk to all of the devices on your network, but NOTHING on the internet
[23:56] <kandinski> something wrong happened to my fonts on upgrade to Oneiric. The terminal looks like crap, the spacing between characters in the terminal is all wonky, any fix?
[23:56] <pfadi> kolleges
[23:56] <deebee> Guest39133: if you leave a ping running to an external host (eg google.com), does it drop out when the internet supposedly stops working?
[23:56] <kandinski> deebee: yeah, it will
[23:56] <Guest39133> deebee: I'll do it now and see
[23:56] <Nazosan> You're using a laptop?
[23:56] <Zelda> Nazosan: yeah, thanks. this cpu fan is running high. how do I throttle it down?
[23:56] <Varazir> Can I remove grub if I PXE boot my system ?
[23:56] <Success> i cant find
[23:56] <Success> whats mythbuntu
[23:56] <deebee> kandinski: Did I miss something?
[23:56] <crimscx> hey guys whats a good channel just to relax in
[23:56] <Barnabas> Guest39133 do a continous ping to the router too
[23:57] <Barnabas> in another terminal window
[23:57] <phiscibe> Nazosan: What I think has happened is the way mutiple displays in twin view now works is with metamodes.  For some new reason, xorg makes ONE display, think of a big rectangle to encompess both moniors.  Think of a big rectangle.  The resolution of that rectangle has to be big enough so that both displays fit in side.
[23:57] <Success> oh i just want the tv part do i have to reinstall
[23:57] <kandinski> deebee, I was answering to your question. Ping will stop if you cut your network, yes.
[23:57] <jrib> !ot | crimscx
[23:57] <Paladinlaw> hi, im trying to logout but im getting "out of range" on my monitor.
[23:57] <Goen> Hi everybody! i just added a new line to my crontab... its supposed to play a mp3-file every 1Minute (using mplayer).. it starts to do it every 1min BUT interrupts after 1sec. of playing the file.. does anyone know why this happens?
[23:57] <Nazosan> Normally with PowerNow and Cool'n'Quiet, the CPU fan is scaled based on the processor temperature (which in turn is based on how much work it's doing)
[23:57] <Success> or can i install mythbuntu over ubuntu
[23:57] <crimscx> thanks jrib
[23:57] <deebee> kandinski: I wasn't asking a question, I'm helping someone
[23:57] <Guest39133> Barnabas: ok, doing it
[23:57] <phiscibe>  had to get back to a basic xorg, I cant remeber the hoops I jumped threw but you must restart in this process the whole machine.  When you can get it to but with one monitor you have to set the twin view option with a meta mode big enough for both screens.
[23:57] <Zelda> yeah but it doesnt change even idling.
[23:57] <Success> like how i once installed kde on ubuntu
[23:57] <Nazosan> phiscibe: let me say this:  I want to leave that monitor hooked up, but I am 100% ok with linux not using it.
[23:57] <bazhang> !info mythbuntu-desktop | Success
[23:57] <Zelda> the fan is constantly running high
[23:57] <phiscibe> You must use xrandr to add modelines.   You may want to use cvt to generate the modelines
[23:57] <parcs> how seamless are distro upgrades?
[23:57] <Success> i have 64
[23:58] <Nazosan> so if it disables the monitor entirely I'm ok
[23:58] <bazhang> Success, install it, then choose from login window
[23:58] <Nazosan> is it able to do that?
[23:58] <Barnabas> Guest39133 if windows gets ping timeout = net card / driver issue - if only one window gets timeout - probably a router - ISP issue
[23:58] <phiscibe> its sounds rought but not to bad
[23:58] <Paladinlaw> hi, im trying to logout but im getting "out of range" on my monitor.
[23:58] <Barnabas> both windows
[23:58] <Nazosan> Zelda, if you were on a PC I'd say you had PowerNow/Cool'n'Quiet disabled in the BIOS.  But are you on a laptop?  It may be running loud just because laptops are so ridiculously hot.
[23:59] <Fishscene> Paladinlaw: That means the frequency (refresh rate) is too high/low or the resolution is too high/low for your monitor
[23:59] <Success> it doesnt show up in ubuntu software center
[23:59] <hicham> i just installed cairo dock on my ubuntu 11.04
[23:59] <Success> oh there we go
[23:59] <zacarias> My Firefox 3.6.23 is crashing without any apparent reason. Any help?
[23:59] <Success> ew cairo dock is only cool with panels
[23:59] <Paladinlaw> Fishscene: hmm worked great before
[23:59] <phiscibe> xrandr -q
[23:59] <Success> plus awn is better
[23:59] <phiscibe> will give you soem basics
[23:59] <Zelda> Nazosan: its possible but in Win 7 I can turn the cpu down and power down which in turn makes the fan run quieter.. who knows
[23:59] <hicham> and i log out and in again but its gone do i need to add it to start up applications?
[23:59] <Nazosan> phiscibe: is there any easier way to do this?  I really don't want to deal with that modeline stuff again...  I never got the hang of that years ago and don't want to mess with it again now