[00:51] <holstein> you are kidding
[00:51] <holstein> the -lowlatency kernel didnt make it in 11.10?
[01:18] <naka> i'm no expert, but from what i understand a lot of the low latency functionality has been included in the generic kernel now
[01:18] <naka> hence no need for -lowlatency
[01:21] <holstein> naka: sure, but we still need it as of last release
[01:21] <holstein> for several test cases
[01:22] <holstein> firewire not being the only case
[01:22] <holstein> still, we havent had one since maverick
[01:22] <holstein> lucid has the RT kernel from karmic carried over into the repos
[01:35] <holstein> naka: if you can test non-firewire, i'll test firewire
[01:36] <holstein> with mainline kernels for 12.04
[01:36] <holstein> still, we should be able to put software in the repos that we need
[01:45] <naka> ah i see
[01:46] <naka> unfortunately i'm still waiting for my internet to get hooked up here so i'm a few days away from really being able to download and test anything :(
[01:46] <naka> but i hope to be able to help out once i'm online
[01:48] <holstein> naka: :)
[01:48] <holstein> cool
[01:48] <holstein> we were really doing pretty well there for a bit before natty
[01:48] <holstein> testing-wise
[01:52] <naka> reading that y'all were switching to xfce piqued my interest in ubuntu-studio, since i've been thinking of doing the same thing myself lately
[01:52] <naka> and i saw the oneiric release notes which almost read like a cry for help :>
[01:52] <holstein> yeah, i think thats where im heading
[01:52] <holstein> xubuntu is quite nice
[01:53] <holstein> naka: lol
[01:58] <naka> i might install xubuntu at least this afternoon. i'm using a 3g connection, so i can't download a lot of stuff without it costing a fortune, but my isp mirrors a few distros which are free to dl
[01:58] <naka> xubuntu is included, ustudio aint :(
[02:01] <naka> haven't used xfce in four or five years. back when i tried it the panel used to crash from time to time
[02:02] <naka> i understand it has really matured now though. even torvalds made the switch
[02:19] <craigs63> hi kubotu !
[02:19] <kubotu> 'evening, craigs63
[07:31] <sd_ubuntu_> Hi!
[07:58] <knome> naka, back when i used gnome, it's panel used to crash daily too :)
[07:59] <knome> *its
[07:59] <naka> heh
[14:11] <sd_ubuntu_> Hi! :-)
[14:15] <holstein> sd_ubuntu_: o/
[14:16] <sd_ubuntu_> holstein: hi! I'm still waiting to start..... how are u?
[14:16] <holstein> sd_ubuntu_: dont wait, just have at it :)
[14:16] <holstein> im good
[14:18] <sd_ubuntu_> holstein: A guy told me that he received what to do after doing the registration in the list.... and I did it the other day, but I didnt receive the confirmation 
[14:19] <holstein> sd_ubuntu_: ?
[14:19] <holstein> well, i assure you, you wont get anything
[14:19] <holstein> its me, and scott
[14:20] <holstein> astraljava is here alot
[14:20] <holstein> falktx is here
[14:20] <holstein> sd_ubuntu_: if you want something easy, join the #ubuntu-news channel and you can write summaries
[14:20] <holstein> we need help with that every weekend
[14:20] <holstein> here, its like this
[14:20] <holstein> sd_ubuntu_: here's what you do
[14:20] <holstein> whatever it takes
[14:21] <holstein> we are in a bad way right now
[14:21] <holstein> this team
[14:21] <holstein> what i plan on doing it asking around about how to get scott or falk motu access
[14:22] <sd_ubuntu_> (i have to go ...)
[14:24] <holstein> sd_ubuntu_: next time :)
[14:24] <holstein> just so you know, dont expect much from that list in the way of direction
[15:15] <fr-z> hi
[15:21] <knome> hey fr-z 
[15:21] <knome> fr-z, i see you asked about the new US website
[15:21] <fr-z> US?
[15:21] <knome> fr-z, at least right now it's hard to cooperate, but i'll let you all know if i need any help :)
[15:22] <knome> us=ubuntu studio
[15:22] <fr-z> ahh lol sorry :)
[15:22] <fr-z> nice if you need count on me please ^^
[15:22] <knome> sure, thanks
[15:22] <knome> the next step is to migrate to a wordpress theme really
[15:23] <knome> and make the JS "feature" tabs work
[15:23] <fr-z> well coding its not my thing ;)
[15:23] <knome> the new "feature" area can be seen at http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/www/
[15:23] <fr-z> the only thing i can code is an html saying helo lol
[15:23] <knome> more than nothing, isn't it :)
[15:24] <knome> http://myhaiku.org/ for the general looks
[15:24] <knome> so those two are going to be integrated into one wordpress theme :)
[15:24] <knome> i don't know much about the content
[15:24] <knome> that's something somebody else has to work on :)
[15:25] <fr-z> ^^
[15:25] <fr-z> its quite interesting
[15:25] <fr-z> i would change some short details
[15:25] <fr-z> simple things
[15:25] <knome> about the content, or the lookS?
[15:25] <fr-z> the looks
[15:25] <knome> feel free to comment :)
[15:27] <fr-z> i would remove the "ubuntu studio" on the left, the audio-video-graphics words at the banner top, the logo at the left side of the word audio
[15:27] <fr-z> then
[15:27] <fr-z> with the free space
[15:27] <fr-z> you could zoom the banner to full screen that area
[15:28] <knome> oh
[15:28] <knome> see this page: http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/www/
[15:28] <fr-z> it would breath more
[15:28] <knome> that's what the header is about to look like
[15:28] <knome> the rest of the page will be taken from myhaiku.org :)
[15:28] <knome> eg. the article listing
[15:28] <fr-z> this one is much better
[15:29] <knome> that's exactly doing what you said - giving more space to breathe and cutting repetition
[15:29] <fr-z> true
[15:29] <fr-z> its more serious and professional
[15:29] <fr-z> so http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/www/ will be the main visual structure?
[15:29] <knome> yes
[15:30] <knome> that's created using myhaiku.org, the previous draft, as a base
[15:30] <knome> incorporating similar elements and somewhat the overall looks :)
[15:30] <fr-z> no doubt its much better
[15:31] <knome> thanks
[15:32] <knome> oh - if you have any other ideas than just screenshots for the right-hand side of the "feature" area (there's some 250px width of empty space), shoot
[15:32] <knome> i mean, the main slide probably should have a logo or something really generic
[15:32] <knome> but the audio/video/graphics slides can be much more interesting than just screenshots
[15:33] <knome> if we only have ideas for that
[15:33] <knome> (any color/image is ok really)
[15:34] <fr-z> if you want i can make a sketch with the idea but i have something in mind
[15:35] <knome> sketch is great, just an idea is fine too
[15:35] <fr-z> i woul remove the audio video etc, honestly they dont fit the global concept. And then you could solve the right side space. you could put, vertically icons
[15:36] <fr-z> one  for audio, another for video and so on
[15:36] <sd_ubuntu_> holstein: I was with my brother and grandmother and then I lost the connection..... thank you for your messages (that I losted unfortunately). However I've understood that I should join ubuntu news channel to start simply
[15:36] <fr-z> let me see if i see and example
[15:36] <fr-z> hi sd
[15:36] <fr-z> i dont know if holstein isnt away
[15:37] <knome> i suppose we're not going to change the vertical/horizontal aligment any more, but ideas for the background are welcome (btw, the free space is intentional ;))
[15:38] <fr-z> if you have any other ideas than just screenshots for the right-hand side of the "feature" area (there's some 250px width of empty space), shoot
[15:38] <knome> yeah, i mean something like photos of mixer buttons etc.
[15:38] <knome> :)
[15:39] <fr-z> you mean that was something for the right side but of the background?
[15:39] <fr-z> ahh
[15:39] <fr-z> got it :)
[15:39] <knome> that's what the free space is for
[15:39] <knome> some graphical element
[15:40] <fr-z> for graphics i would bet on a 3d model, half rendered and another half in lines
[15:41] <fr-z> i bet m8s on blender group wouldnt mind to give a hand. They have loads of models
[15:42] <fr-z> and maybe they could help getting a lens for the video aswell
[15:58] <knome> yeah
[16:17] <fr-z> cya later :)
[16:42] <holstein> hey knome 
[21:21] <holstein> who has access to the artwork?
[21:21] <holstein> i want to go ahead and take the old wallpaper and put it in our XFCE, first thin
[21:21] <holstein> g
[21:21] <holstein> and just choose some darker theme, and have that to fall back on
[21:22] <holstein> anyways... upgrade from 11.04 worked
[21:33] <knome> hey holstein 
[21:42] <holstein> knome: o/
[21:42] <holstein> are you the website guy?
[21:42] <holstein> we gotta get that up ASAP
[21:43] <knome> yup, yeah.
[21:43] <knome> i know.
[21:43] <holstein> how do we make that happen?
[21:43] <holstein> AFAIK, you are done right?
[21:44] <knome> the next step is to convert the drafts to a wordpress theme (i understood that was okay for scott)
[21:44] <knome> after that, we need the canonical IS to set up a staging site for that, so you can insert the content
[21:44] <holstein> yeah, that sounds envolved
[21:44] <holstein> the wordpress thing
[21:44] <knome> and shortly after that, you say "GO!!" and they'll publish it
[21:44] <holstein> can we just say go on what you got?
[21:45] <knome> no, because there's nothing completely ready yet
[21:45] <holstein> OK
[21:45] <holstein> what can i do ?
[21:45] <knome> i have created this: http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/www/
[21:45] <holstein> i can put up a wordpress instance if needed
[21:45] <knome> based on this: http://myhaiku.org/
[21:45] <knome> no need - i can do that myself too :)
[21:46] <holstein> knome: lets try and talk more regularly, and make this happen ASAP
[21:46] <holstein> like, 2 weeks, lets be submitting something to canonnical
[21:46] <holstein> is that possible?
[21:46] <knome> if you want to make things ready for the next stage, you can contact the canonical IS (just add a ticket in RT i understand) so they'll have a staging site ready for us
[21:47] <knome> depends much on my commercial work
[21:47] <holstein> im at the point with the site where we need to do something even if its wrong
[21:47] <knome> i'm hoping to have more time soonish
[21:47] <holstein> knome: if you want to set up the wordpress, i can mess with it
[21:47] <holstein> and talk someone else into helping
[21:47] <holstein> a wordpress guy
[21:47] <holstein> i know 2 wordpress guys actually that would help
[21:48] <knome> how well do they know theming?
[21:48] <holstein> one of them is quite good at it
[21:48] <holstein> and the other is learning
[21:48] <holstein> he's more on the backend
[21:48] <knome> okay
[21:48] <knome> we don't need much of the backend now
[21:48] <holstein> with those 2 guys, i should be able to really make some headway
[21:49] <knome> i'll try to get something together tomorrow
[21:49] <holstein> knome: thanks
[21:49] <knome> like put that all into a wordpress theme draft
[21:49] <knome> after that it's easier for others to chime in
[21:49] <holstein> well, i say we just do it
[21:49] <knome> we need some JS too, for the feature area
[21:50] <holstein> you get the say so
[21:50] <holstein> you and scottL
[21:50] <holstein> no more 'is this OK, and whatever"
[21:50] <knome> mm-hmm
[21:50] <holstein> it'll be the week after 12.04 releases and well be saying the same thing
[21:50] <holstein> if someone dont like it, they can come here and file tickets or whatever
[21:50] <knome> heh, hopefully not
[21:50] <holstein> they are more than welcome
[21:51] <holstein> knome: the the JS something that can be added later?
[21:51] <holstein> i can ask the theme guy
[21:51] <holstein> he's more of a coder
[21:51] <holstein> OH... i know a JS guy too actually that owes me some time :)
[21:51] <knome> umph, no, i think it should be in right away
[21:51] <holstein> we'll see
[21:52] <holstein> all i can do is ask
[21:52] <knome> i'll see if i have enough time for that tomorrow (or this night) too
[21:52] <knome> i can do JS myself too :)
[21:52] <holstein> knome: you are a gentleman and a scholar
[21:52] <knome> :)
[21:52] <knome> yeah, and lately quite busy ;)
[21:52] <holstein> if i can do some of the light-weight stuff with the help i rustle up
[21:52] <holstein> you can sweep in and JS
[21:53] <holstein> swoop?
[21:53] <holstein> whatever...
[21:53] <knome> heh
[21:53] <knome> in what timezone are you in?
[21:53] <holstein> eastern... new york
[21:53] <knome> right
[21:53] <holstein> im in asheville NC
[21:53] <knome> how much - is that?
[21:53] <holstein> 5?
[21:53] <knome> okay
[21:54] <knome> i'm +3
[21:54] <knome> but that's okay
[21:54] <knome> i sometimes beat the people in US staying up longer
[21:54] <holstein> yeah, you can message me here or email me or whatever
[21:58] <knome> mmh.
[21:58] <knome> i think i'm going to work on the site tonight
[21:58] <knome> seems like the only way to go
[21:58] <knome> i'll just wait that my wife falls asleep first :P
[21:58] <holstein> hehe
[21:58] <knome> brb