[00:07] <trakinas> is there a mway to connect to the internet without the nm try icon?
[00:13] <lcb> hi. do you know how can i add an application as 'autostart'? Just add a symlink to home/user/.config/autostart ?
[00:21] <lcb> yes. tested and works
[00:25] <tzhuang> does anyone have scim working with googlepinying here?
[00:26] <tzhuang> i installed scim according to these instructions http://code.google.com/p/scim-googlepinyin/
[00:26] <tzhuang> but i can't seem to be able to input chinse
[00:28] <trakinas> tzhuang: I dont. cant help you. sorry!
[00:33] <trakinas> why booting lubuntu on VirtualBox is so slow? Have I missed anything?
[00:37] <tzhuang> how can you minimize tbird to tray in lubuntu
[00:38] <trakinas> tzhuang: I think you need to install a plugin for that
[00:44] <tzhuang> trakinas: any idea what plugin?
[00:44] <tiox> Sound has me confused. I was under the impression I could have sound from headphones only come out of headphones, but it seems this is not the case if I use alsamixer.
[00:46] <tiox> Am I stuck with this issue, or is there a way to fix the audio so when I plug a set of headphones, in, the speakers shut off and the headphones are the only devices accepting input?
[00:46] <trakinas> tzhuang: i think there is one called AllTray, where you can put any program on the systray
[00:46] <trakinas> see if you find it on synaptic
[00:48] <tzhuang> trakinas: i see it
[00:48] <tzhuang> trakinas: but it doesn't list LXDE as supported D:
[00:48] <trakinas> tzhuang: well, you can try it.
[00:49] <tzhuang> trakinas: hmm have you tried it?
[00:49] <tzhuang> trakinas: rebooting brb
[00:59] <trakinas> tiox: I really can't help you. In general, when I plug a phone, there  is no sound from the speakers.
[01:00] <trakinas> tiox: and I never really played around with "phone"/"mixer" output
[01:10] <tiox> Any answer is as good as no answer I guess.
[01:56] <penguinnerd> So, anybody know what's up with lubuntu.net? It's redirecting me to the ubuntu wiki entry.
[02:02] <penguinnerd> Is anybody around?
[02:02] <phillw> penguinnerd: yes there is some one about
[02:02] <penguinnerd> Oh, hello.
[02:03] <penguinnerd> So, do you know what's going on with lubuntu.net?
[02:03] <penguinnerd> It redirects me to the ubuntu wiki.
[02:03] <phillw> penguinnerd: the server for lubuntu.net was overloaded, so it was re-directed to the lubuntu area on the Canonical servers (which are also under immense strain)
[02:04] <penguinnerd> Oh. That was my theory, but I wasn't sure. Thanks much.
[02:04] <phillw> I'm just trying to arrange back up server band width for lubuntu.net
[06:46] <l33_> hi
[06:47] <sagaci> hi
[08:43] <hulaka> Is there some way to make desktop icons smaller? [Lubuntu 11.10]
[08:44] <l33_> wouldnt be opensource if you couldnt ;)
[08:45] <hulaka> Well I realise that ... but HOW you do it
[08:48] <stlsaint> hulaka: hrm, should have options via open box menu
[08:50] <hulaka> No, OpenBox has no settings considering desktop icons
[08:51] <l33_> you have to make your own desktop/icon theme
[08:51] <l33_> but dont ask me how, i dont know that
[08:51] <hulaka> >.<
[08:52] <l33_> sorry
[08:52] <hulaka> damn, linux is always so problematic for me
[08:52] <l33_> it seems to be problematic, but in the ende its easier as any other operating system i guess
[08:52] <hulaka> exactly
[08:52] <l33_> be happy, you can change the desktop theme
[08:53] <hulaka> then maybe you have an idea why some fonts on some software look so damn small?
[08:53] <l33_> i dont know how, but there are some articles in the net on how to make you own icon theme for ubuntu
[08:53] <l33_> no, havent noticed  that here, that some fonts are small
[08:53] <l33_> i had this problem years ago with windows xp
[08:53] <hulaka> Libreoffice looks really shitty, fonts are so tiny, especially navigator panel
[08:53] <l33_> there the problem was, that i had a small screen resolution
[08:54] <l33_> so, everything needed to be small to fit into the screen
[08:54] <l33_> looking now at libre office
[08:54] <l33_> here its normal size in libre office ( icons and fonts)
[08:56] <l33_> you can optimize the toolbar of libre office
[08:56] <hulaka> I have 1280x1024 resolution, don't know if it's "small"
[08:56] <hulaka> how?
[08:56] <l33_> its allright
[08:57] <l33_> in the toolbar click on customize
[08:59] <hulaka> I don't see how that's helpful
[09:00] <hulaka> But basically it's not just Libre
[09:00] <hulaka> It's some certain software
[09:00] <hulaka> Even certain websites
[09:00] <hulaka> while other are ok
[09:01] <hulaka> and system fonts (like in system menu) are ok
[09:01] <hulaka> >.<
[09:02] <l33_> first, as it is opensource, i would guess you can change everything
[09:02] <l33_> on ubuntu, some configurations arent stored in text files, most are stored in nomral textfiles
[09:02] <l33_> so editing them shouldnt be the problem
[09:02] <hulaka> yes well, but by default it all should be ok
[09:03] <hulaka> before I had Ubuntu 11.04 and it was all right
[09:03] <l33_> here, i am usin lastes lubuntu, an di dont see a difference concerning the size of fonts and icons compared to other operating systems
[09:03] <hulaka> then I don't know what's wrong ...
[09:03] <l33_> i really dont know
[09:03] <l33_> are you using an nvidia graphics card?
[09:04] <hulaka> yes
[09:04] <l33_> are you using the drivers that were installed with lubuntu or do you use nvidia drivers( from nvidia homepage)
[09:05] <l33_> here, really, with lubuntu 11.10 everything is as normal: no small icons
[09:05] <l33_> so, i guess, it has something to do with how lubuntu is configured on your system
[09:05] <hulaka> Icons are ok
[09:05] <l33_> maybe, as a test, just change easily the desktop theme
[09:06] <hulaka> Fonts are too small on some software
[09:06] <hulaka> simple as that
[09:07] <hulaka> It's 64 bit though ... maybe something is not the best supported yet
[09:07] <hulaka> I don't know
[09:07] <l33_> k
[09:07] <l33_> ok
[09:07] <l33_> i do have a workaround for you
[09:08] <l33_> go ro libre office
[09:08] <l33_> to
[09:08] <l33_> then menu tools go to options
[09:08] <l33_> then under view there you can change the scaling
[09:09] <l33_> try 130 %
[09:09] <l33_> and i think i do have a even better work around for you
[09:09] <l33_> just change the screen resolution
[09:09] <l33_> under lubuntu start menu go to display settings
[09:10] <l33_> and change the resolution to a lower value
[09:11] <hulaka> it's not the case ...
[09:11] <l33_> these work-arounds are working here and helping getting bigger icons and fonts on lubunt 11.10 amd64
[09:11] <hulaka> eh
[09:11] <l33_> mmm
[09:11] <hulaka> yea well, but like I'm saying there problem only with SOME stuff
[09:11] <hulaka> changing resolution changes everything
[09:12] <hulaka> so the stuff that actually was allright, isn't when changing resolution
[09:12] <l33_> okay, i guess libre office is still running with java
[09:12] <hulaka> scaling - well, it also makes everything bigger
[09:12] <hulaka> and basically libreoffice fonts also look ... disorted or something
[09:13] <hulaka> they're not clean
[09:13] <hulaka> so even if I change scaling - it's looks bad
[09:13] <hulaka> jesus ... maybe I'm just too demanding
[09:13] <hulaka> and that's the main problem xD
[09:13] <l33_> you can try to use the opensource nvidia drivers that comes with lubuntu
[09:14] <l33_> i dont know how small some icons or fonts are
[09:14] <l33_> but you can easily change them
[09:14] <l33_> i dont know how, but you really should find out easily
[09:14] <l33_> have to go now
[09:14] <l33_> c ya laters ;)
[09:14] <hulaka> peace
[09:15] <l33_> ;)
[09:15] <l33_> good luck
[09:32] <hulaka> is there some way to take a screenshot in lubuntu?
[09:32] <hulaka> [besides "scrot" command in terminal]
[09:41] <hulaka> could someone help me?
[10:27] <ardian> Hi is there any battery widget or something ?
[14:22] <ahma> I came here to thank devs. Like newest lubuntu more than ubuntu. =) Even I have Intel i3 and 4GB ram.
[14:24] <silverlightning> I like lubuntu too
[14:25] <silverlightning> ahma: sometimes Ubuntu behaves very sluggish for no known reason, I suspect driver trouble if specs are with in the 2 GHz zpu and 2GB ram
[14:25] <ahma> It is faster to use imo (read: functionality)
[14:26] <silverlightning> oh yes, at least right away. I suppose it depends on what you get used to
[14:27] <silverlightning> I initially went for lubuntu because I had a laptop with minimal specs that I wanted to keep alive
[14:27] <ahma> Yes
[14:27] <silverlightning> it seems ubuntu is best with dual core 2GHz and up
[14:27] <ahma> Me 2 (256ram)
[14:28] <silverlightning> lubuntu runs on 700MHz,
[14:28] <silverlightning> or even less
[14:28] <silverlightning> 700 is what I have on the old one
[14:28] <ahma> But lubuntu seems to be just a bit faster with 4GB ram laptop too
[14:29] <silverlightning> yes, I installed 11.04 on both computers, even though the new handles ubuntu fine
[14:30] <silverlightning> I really need the old laptop to run fine
[14:30] <silverlightning> I can't buy a new one right now
[14:30] <silverlightning> I really don't need a new one either, silly to give the old one up when it works fine
[14:32] <silverlightning> it is fun to make an old laptop run again too
[14:32] <ahma> I must say that my other (old laptop) computer does not run fine with lubuntu, but enough fine to surf internet etc.
[14:33] <silverlightning> I see
[14:33] <silverlightning> what specs do you have?
[14:34] <silverlightning> I have a really old laptop, with new hard drive, and some new ram, which I got cheaply on ebay
[14:35] <silverlightning> I bought 1GB ram, but I suppose 512MB is the beneficial peek on this laptop
[14:35] <ahma> 1400MHZ Pentium, 240MB ram
[14:36] <silverlightning> and lubuntu runs fine with everything, except flash is a bit jerky, but there are ways about it
[14:36] <silverlightning> oh, your computer would be like new with 1 or 2 GB ram
[14:36] <silverlightning> promise
[14:37] <silverlightning> it really should run fine with everything,
[14:37] <ahma> Nah, it runs enough fine. And newer know when motherboard or anything else will be dead
[14:38] <ahma> Never*
[14:38] <silverlightning> what model do you have ahma?
[14:38] <silverlightning> your computer should be faster than mine, noticeably
[14:38] <ahma> Fujitsu Siemens pro amilo V2000
[14:39] <silverlightning> hey, my laptop was new in 2001, it is a handme down lol
[14:39] <ahma> Maybe it runs, but I think it does not run 'fine'
[14:40] <silverlightning> mother boards can last a looooooooooooong time,
[14:40] <ahma> Yes,but HP G62 seems to run. "Fine"
[14:40] <silverlightning> for me fine is; boots reasonably quickly, runs with no hangups or issues, applications launches reasonably quickly too
[14:41] <silverlightning> you are right, there are no guarantees with old hardware, but in my experience, minor fixes and repairs have been worth it.
[14:42] <silverlightning> Hps are very solid in my experience
[14:42] <ahma> When I need specs, I use newer laptop. Only sometimes using that old one.
[14:43] <silverlightning> I have noticed buntu and lubuntu run lighter and faster on systems with less specs than others, which is odd
[14:44] <silverlightning> This old packard bell has lasted for ever, and the main reason why I still have it is it has rescued me many times. it still runs fine
[14:45] <silverlightning> ahma: does your hard drive come out fine in system profiler and benchmark?
[14:45] <silverlightning> or, no disk utility I mean
[14:46] <ahma> Some things are missing
[14:46] <silverlightning> old computer can't compare to new cpu's and hd graphics
[14:46] <silverlightning> but your cpu is pretty up to standard still
[14:46] <silverlightning> ram is not
[14:47] <ahma> Yes I know
[14:47] <silverlightning> have you ran htop?
[14:47] <silverlightning> in terminal
[14:47] <ahma> Sometimes
[14:47] <silverlightning> what does it show?
[14:47] <ahma> Can't remember
[14:49] <silverlightning> run it then ; )
[14:49] <silverlightning> and make a screen shot
[14:49] <ahma> With this Samsung Galaxy S?
[14:50] <ahma> XD I'm using phone right now
[14:51] <silverlightning> http://imagebin.org/179314
[14:52] <ahma> Love that Fujitsu Siemens at panel
[14:53] <silverlightning> lol
[14:53] <silverlightning> I was checking what kind of computer and ram it would take
[14:53] <silverlightning> it should be easy and low price
[14:54] <silverlightning> but if you really don't use the laptop much at all
[14:55] <silverlightning> I haven't done much alterations after install
[14:56] <silverlightning> only added a few applications
[14:58] <silverlightning> a bit odd memory is that low?
[15:00] <silverlightning> this laptop with 700MHz exceeds 250MB in jumps with launch of anything, but hardly ever exceeds much above 300-350
[15:01] <silverlightning> ahma, I think your old system would utilize 512MH RAM much the same way, even more
[15:02] <silverlightning> have your laptop been looted for ram at one point?
[15:05] <silverlightning> this laptop is my lubuntu/linux test and try
[15:09] <silverlightning> I work on a Vista computer 2.7GHz processor, and 3GB RAM, it is much the same as this old computer with regards to speed.
[15:09] <silverlightning> Windows 7 is better on the same system
[15:11] <silverlightning> I haven't noticed much improvement in 64 bit computers when it comes to regular applications I use
[15:19] <Ibis> Anyone having issues installing Lubuntu 11.10 from a CD by any chance?
[15:20] <Ibis> I can not run lubuntu and see LIVE desktop. It drops to shell after it fails to load it's GUI.
[15:24] <silverlightning> I installed 11.10 from cd
[15:24] <silverlightning> it booted fine in two different laptops
[15:26] <silverlightning> ibis, I have had that in Ubuntu, some gaphic cards have problems with drivers, and boot up to a black screen after the first bootup menue choices
[15:26] <manuee> hi all, first time installing lubuntu here i have a problem
[15:26] <manuee> i fresh boot it after installing, and I dont see anythinng, just a black screen no mouse nor anything
[15:26] <manuee> as if x didnt start or somethign
[15:27] <silverlightning> no signs of grub or anything?
[15:27] <manuee> nope
[15:27] <manuee> i boot, see the typical bios stuf, then black
[15:27] <manuee> i can alt f1 and login fine
[15:28] <silverlightning> something went wrong with install
[15:28] <manuee> argh
[15:28] <manuee> i dont see any weird messages on restarting lxdm
[15:28] <silverlightning> hmm, but what
[15:28] <manuee> on the X log i see no screens  found
[15:29] <silverlightning> in a terminal like environment ?
[15:29] <manuee> thats proabbly why... strange because using the llive cd i could see everything working fine
[15:29] <manuee> yeah in the terminal runing sudo tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:30] <manuee> (im an ubuntu user for some years)
[15:30] <manuee> just on this laptop im sick of it being sluguish =)
[15:30] <silverlightning> lubuntu usually behaves much like ubuntu for me, but better on some hardware
[15:31] <silverlightning> lubuntu is considerably lighter and faster
[15:31] <manuee> thats what im hoping
[15:32] <silverlightning> manuee: , you verified file checksum, on download, and disk health before install?
[15:32] <manuee> nanoing the x log file i see Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[15:32] <silverlightning> ah, driver issue?
[15:32] <manuee> looks like nvidia drivers arent working for some reason yeh
[15:32] <manuee> crap
[15:32] <manuee> i didnt silverlightning nope
[15:33] <silverlightning> but very odd they worked in live cd?
[15:33] <Ibis> silverlightning: I didn't have this problem in lubuntu 11.04 :S           I'll get lts then, It doesn't need to be new or fancy. I use this as a computer rescue disk.
[15:33] <manuee> yeh it worked fine
[15:33] <silverlightning> when I have had graphic driver issues, I could not get to live cd
[15:33] <manuee> dunno if it was using them or what but it was working
[15:33] <manuee> yeh same here
[15:34] <silverlightning> do you still have the download file, and location of dowload ?
[15:34] <silverlightning> would be easy to get the md5 sum checked
[15:35] <silverlightning> Ibis, then it should not be video card driver problem
[15:36] <silverlightning> I'm not sure what changes they have made with driver packages,
[15:37] <manuee> i stil have the dl file yeh
[15:37] <manuee> i believe i chose NL to dl from
[15:37] <manuee> no wait
[15:37] <silverlightning> if you can get to the md5 sum, it should be listed on the down load site
[15:37] <manuee> i downloaded the torrent silverlightning
[15:37] <manuee> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:38] <silverlightning> then you probably have a folder or note with the check sum
[15:39] <silverlightning> ooh, direct download link
[15:39] <manuee> i used the torrent from this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[15:39] <silverlightning> you did get iso only, or additional info?
[15:39] <manuee> no md5 there
[15:39] <manuee> iso only
[15:40] <SAKKED> SUP?
[15:40] <SAKKED> how can i install lubuntu with WUBI?
[15:40] <silverlightning> regular 32 bit?
[15:40] <silverlightning> or 64?
[15:40] <SAKKED> 64
[15:41] <silverlightning> sorry, I mean manuee
[15:41] <manuee> i think i should try reinstalling nvidia
[15:41] <manuee> 32bit
[15:41] <silverlightning> wubi?
[15:41] <silverlightning> which might be tricky, and you shouldn't have to really
[15:41] <SAKKED> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(Ubuntu_installer)
[15:42] <SAKKED> i DLed lubuntu image
[15:42] <SAKKED> and it has wubi
[15:42] <SAKKED> o.o
[15:42] <silverlightning> manuee, check you dowload folder
[15:43] <manuee> yeh only the iso image there silverlightning
[15:44] <silverlightning> SAKKED: isn't that just default installation in CD?
[15:44] <silverlightning> as opposed to the alternative with out, for very minimal specs
[15:44] <silverlightning> darn
[15:45] <silverlightning> menuee, anyhow, if you run disk health check, in install menue, it is enought
[15:46] <silverlightning> manuee, I have had quirks on install, and after a second attempt it has worked fine
[15:47] <manuee> thanks silverlightning
[15:47] <manuee> ill try that if reinstalling nvidia doesnt work
[15:47] <silverlightning> if it comes out right, the disk is fine at least
[15:48] <silverlightning> there are often some really clever guys here
[15:48] <silverlightning> at least one or one and a half
[15:50] <manuee> heheh =)
[15:50] <manuee> i might try installing the drivers from the nvidia page
[15:50] <manuee> when i had ubuntu on this machine thats what i had runing
[15:50] <manuee> cant remember i fthey were necessary though
[15:50] <manuee> it was on 10.04 though who knows
[15:50] <silverlightning> which really should be the same driver in lubuntu
[15:51] <manuee> realy?
[15:51] <manuee> cool
[15:52] <Ibis> silverlightning: It's even affecting a great computer my friend uses. No problem running regular Ubuntu from USB. But running lubuntu from CD is .... ... .. . . -.-
[15:53] <silverlightning> hmm, Ibis you ran the disk health function at boot up?
[15:53] <silverlightning>  in cd I mean
[15:59] <silverlightning> if it comes out all right, I'll bet it is graphic driver issues
[16:01] <silverlightning> but since ubuntu works, I don't see why it should be,hmm
[16:03] <Ibis> silverlightning: Two perfect downloads actually. Although there is a chance of slight messups. I didn't run check sum. I did downloaded ONCE each on two different operating systems. Two different paths. And two different folders/directory.
[16:04] <Ibis> I could at least run a checksum today while I still can.
[16:04] <Ibis> Am I the only one with this issue?
[16:04] <silverlightning> I don't think check sum matters, as longs as health check comes out fine
[16:05] <silverlightning> not sure Ibis, manuee have something related, but might be different still
[16:05] <silverlightning> in the ubuntu room, some have had simillar install issues
[16:06] <leszek> hi
[16:07] <willcooke> howdy folks.  Trying out lubuntu 11.10 in place of xubuntu for my mythtv frontend.  I'm trying to map the power key on my remote (keycode 142) to s3 suspend the box.  On XFCE I would map this through the keyboard settings tool.  Is there an equivalent?
[16:09] <silverlightning> open box config?
[16:09] <willcooke> silverlightning, not that I can find
[16:11] <silverlightning> hmm
[16:12] <willcooke> I expect there is a nice generic way of mapping xevents to scripts, but my Google foo is weak
[16:12] <SAKKED> If i install with wubi its not same installation as default desktop
[16:12] <SAKKED> wubi installs it into windows
[16:13] <SAKKED> theres no option for lubuntu
[16:13] <SAKKED> when i run wubi
[16:13] <SAKKED> Ubuntu Xubuntu Kubuntu and mythubuntu
[16:13] <SAKKED> are options
[16:14] <SAKKED> and im talking about Lubuntu DVD :D
[16:14] <SAKKED> *CD
[16:15] <manuee> yay i has lubuntu runing properly
[16:15] <manuee> silverlightning, purging  nvidia* and reinstalling nvidia-common worked for me
[16:15] <silverlightning> great
[16:16] <manuee> i had 173 installed
[16:16] <silverlightning> either some mess up during install, or it doesn't work with all nvida cards
[16:16] <manuee> i now have version current
[16:16] <manuee> yeh
[16:16] <manuee> i wont touch it now just in case
[16:16] <silverlightning> I had something similar with a radeon driver once
[16:16] <manuee> need to get this laptop ready for tomorrow work
[16:17] <silverlightning> lots that needs attention ?
[16:18] <silverlightning> with me it's rather simple I need full office, printer and web to work and I am pretty much set
[16:18] <manuee> yeh i need lamp stack, and vpn config runing
[16:19] <silverlightning> I suppose you have to fix vpn at work, where there is any
[16:19] <silverlightning> vpn worked straight away for me luckily
[16:19] <silverlightning> just minor settings
[16:20] <silverlightning> these days it is nice with social medias to run efficient, and all the flash, java, streams to work is a must
[16:24] <silverlightning> I need a break
[16:30] <SAKKED> hey guys?!?
[16:30] <SAKKED> any1 installed thru wubi?
[16:32] <silverlightning> it is very dormant here, you might find someone clever with wubi in the ubuntu channel, it should be much the same
[16:33] <silverlightning> or just check in now and then SAKKED
[16:35] <SAKKED> or maybe i should make normal Lubuntu install
[16:35] <SAKKED> cause looks like wubi doesnt suppot lubuntu
[16:37] <silverlightning> I see
[17:20] <manuee> ungh phpmyadmin is not in the repos?
[17:20] <manuee> cant be
[17:21] <manuee> ow wait let me refresh
[17:21] <KM0201> it should be
[17:21] <KM0201> i remember installing it a long time ago.
[17:22] <Ibis> manuee: You'll need to add some sourced. Then apt-get update
[17:22] <Ibis> Sources*
[17:23] <manuee> yeh thnx i had changed my default mirror...
[17:23] <manuee> and needed to update indeed
[17:34] <silverlightning> has anyone got around to use Gnome player?
[17:35] <silverlightning> I have a small issue; when i change screen size to larger, frame gets larger, but picture inside stay the same
[17:36] <silverlightning> If I right click on picture, and choose "full screen" it works, but sort of separately from the rest
[17:36] <silverlightning> a bit odd
[17:39] <silverlightning> now mplayer runs in black, sound but no picture
[17:39] <silverlightning> hmm
[17:39] <silverlightning> hi mark76
[17:39] <silverlightning> are you in lubuntu?
[17:39] <mark76> Hi ho silverlightning
[17:39] <silverlightning> have you used mplayer lately?
[17:39] <mark76> I'm not at the moment. Why?
[17:39] <mark76> No
[17:40] <silverlightning> I open mplayer, it runs some times, with picture, sometimes only audio
[17:40] <mark76> Hang on
[17:40] <silverlightning> I can right click in a black mpayer screen, withing the window, and choose "full screen", picture appears
[17:41] <silverlightning> is this gui trouble? or just mplayer?
[17:41] <mark76> Apparently Mplayer doesn't like .mov files
[17:41] <silverlightning> oh I see
[17:42] <silverlightning> this was a tv download, from a torrent
[17:42] <silverlightning> just to test the new lubuntu
[17:42] <mark76> Which file extension?
[17:42] <silverlightning> they all end with .avi?
[17:44] <mark76> Have you tried them in another media player?
[17:44] <silverlightning> no, only the default one
[17:44] <silverlightning> I can send folder to a external storage, and test in vlc
[17:44] <mark76> Well I don't have any .avi files
[17:45] <silverlightning> I'm trying to keep this laptop rather minimal with apps
[17:45] <silverlightning> I see
[17:45] <silverlightning> properties show avi video
[17:46] <silverlightning> the other computer would be xp I have available now
[17:47] <silverlightning> mplayer is good isn't it?
[17:47] <silverlightning> I haven't found any better really, just different,
[17:47] <silverlightning> vlc was nice too, but not developers doesn't seem to like it much
[17:48] <silverlightning> I did however lol
[17:48] <mark76> Yeah, mplayer's okay. Though I tend to use xine mire
[17:48] <mark76> more
[17:49] <silverlightning> mark76:  do you ever send folders in irc?
[17:49] <silverlightning> or data
[17:49] <mark76> No
[17:49] <silverlightning> I might try xine again
[17:49] <silverlightning> I see
[17:49] <silverlightning> I just noticed this plugin in pidgin
[17:49] <bioterror> DCC requires ports opened
[17:50] <mark76> I don't think you can send files in irc
[17:50] <mark76> No, apparently you can
[17:50] <silverlightning> it works
[17:51] <mark76> I do know you can't send them in xmpp
[17:51] <silverlightning> you have a dog
[17:51] <silverlightning> I used to
[17:51] <mark76> Not mine
[17:51] <mark76> My friend's
[17:52] <silverlightning> : )
[17:53] <silverlightning> is it an mplayer issue or a lxde issue?
[17:53] <mark76> I wish my nose wasn't so stuffed all the time
[17:54] <mark76> No idea. Send me a small .avi file
[17:54] <mark76> Just a minute or so
[17:54] <silverlightning> not sure I know how to
[17:54] <mark76> Right click on my name in this window and choose Send File from the menu
[17:56] <silverlightning> do you get anything on your end?
[17:56] <mark76> Nope
[17:57] <silverlightning> are you in pigin?
[17:57] <mark76> Yep
[17:57] <silverlightning> you might have to mark of in the plugin setting
[17:57] <silverlightning> not sure
[17:58] <silverlightning> http://imagebin.org/179335
[17:59] <mark76> Do it again
[18:00] <silverlightning> now I ended up with two
[18:01] <mark76> Oh?
[18:02] <silverlightning> not sure how to start it?
[18:02] <mark76> Start what?
[18:02] <bioterror> Sun20:49 <bioterror> DCC requires ports opened
[18:03] <silverlightning> you know, the action where you are sent a "accept data transfer" thing
[18:03] <silverlightning> mark just sent me a picture
[18:03] <silverlightning> works one way at least
[18:03] <mark76> Ah right
[18:04] <silverlightning> I'm afraid I don't know how to set port open
[18:04] <silverlightning> it shows open in torrent client
[18:04] <silverlightning> not sure in pigin
[18:04] <silverlightning> pidgin
[18:05] <silverlightning> never mind
[18:06] <mark76> Search me
[18:06] <mark76> Apparently I can send them but I can't receive
[18:06] <bioterror> that's becouse of NAT?
[18:06] <silverlightning> or I can receive but not send?
[18:07] <mark76> Maybe
[18:07] <mark76> Send me something bodhizazen
[18:07] <mark76> Sorry
[18:07] <mark76> bioterror:
[18:07] <bodhizazen> LOL
[18:07]  * bodhizazen sends mark76 some popcorn
[18:07] <bioterror> mmmm
[18:08] <SAKKED> whats the difference between alternate and desktop?
[18:08] <bioterror> SAKKED, alternate is a text based installer
[18:08] <mark76> Alternate is SOOOO 90s :p
[18:08] <bodhizazen> alternate is for install only, has a more robust installer
[18:08] <bioterror> alternate works ;)
[18:08] <bodhizazen> and a few more options (encryption)
[18:08] <bodhizazen> desktop runs "live" desktop and installs as well
[18:09] <SAKKED> ;DD
[18:09] <SAKKED> i want to install lubuntu to my old laptop
[18:09] <bodhizazen> OK
[18:09] <SAKKED> and im going to use only lubuntu
[18:09] <SAKKED> not windows
[18:09] <mark76> Hmmm
[18:09] <SAKKED> so ?
[18:09] <SAKKED> alternate or dektop?
[18:09] <bodhizazen> don't let us hold you back =)
[18:09] <bodhizazen> either SAKKED
[18:09] <SAKKED> ok
[18:10] <bodhizazen> if you have to ask, I would say desktop
[18:10] <KM0201> if your machine will work w/ the desktop (ie, it's not very old/low on ram) use the desktop CD
[18:10] <mark76> Have you attempted to send me a file bioterror?
[18:10] <KM0201> the alt cd isn't hard, but it can be intimidating if you've never used it before.
[18:10] <bioterror> mark76, yes I have
[18:10] <SAKKED> that laptop have 512mb ram and 2.4GHZ processor
[18:10] <mark76> And I received no notification that a file was being offered
[18:11] <bodhizazen> if lubuntu does not work for you, try slitaz or tinycore
[18:11] <mark76> So, it must be at my end
[18:11] <bioterror> hahaha
[18:11] <bioterror> I would not suggest tinycore
[18:11] <SAKKED> which one shuold i use?
[18:11] <bodhizazen> why not ?
[18:11] <bodhizazen> SAKKED, lubuntu first, slitaz second
[18:12] <SAKKED> wat
[18:12] <SAKKED> i mean alternate install or dekstop?
[18:12] <SAKKED> desktop
[18:12] <bodhizazen> either SAKKED
[18:12] <silverlightning> I can send to a user in a different channel
[18:13] <mark76> Well I've no idea why I can't receive files in irc
[18:13] <silverlightning> go to plugin
[18:14] <silverlightning> mark off for the top one
[18:14] <mark76> Which one? There are millions of them
[18:14] <silverlightning> only 18
[18:14] <mark76> You're going to have to be more specific
[18:14] <mark76> Try it now
[18:15] <silverlightning> accept out transfer or something like that
[18:16] <mark76> I'm still not getting it
[18:17] <mark76> Yikes
[18:17] <mark76> You couldn't find a smaller one!?
[18:17] <silverlightning> sorry, only size
[18:17] <mark76> Damn
[18:17] <silverlightning> tv show
[18:18] <mark76> That's going to take hours
[18:18] <silverlightning> only half it seems
[18:18] <silverlightning> or 20 min
[18:18] <mark76> We'll see
[18:18] <mark76> 1:32
[18:19] <wxl> dang remind me never to install another network manager. that was a pain in the brain
[18:21] <tarvid> lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso brings up the install language selection screen
[18:22] <tarvid> select english
[18:22] <tarvid> down arrow to install
[18:22] <tarvid> flashing cursor in the upper left corner
[18:22] <tarvid> what to do?
[18:22] <silverlightning> move cursor to down arrow?
[18:23] <mark76> 12% uploaded
[18:23] <silverlightning> or is mouse acting up?
[18:23] <mark76> Downloaded
[18:23] <KM0201> it's probably still loading, if all he sees is a cursor in the upper right
[18:24] <tarvid> cursor in upper left gone, now blank screen
[18:25] <wxl> is there a reason people suggest editing keybindings in lubuntu-rc.xml rather than using xbindkeys?
[18:25] <tarvid> lubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso says Undefined video mode number:314 and then lays there dead
[18:26] <wxl> use expert install mode and check the correct video mode maybe
[18:27] <tarvid> never get that far
[18:27] <wxl> nonono
[18:27] <wxl> at boot
[18:28] <tarvid> how does one do that?
[18:28] <silverlightning> 1/4 transfered
[18:28] <tarvid> ISOLINUX starts, then message
[18:28] <wxl> tarvid: restart and watch for the boot menu that says something about hitting install or expert install or something or other
[18:28] <wxl> use expert install
[18:29] <wxl> it will automatically assume install if you do nothing
[18:30] <tarvid> Now have a Lubuntu splash screen, maybe I should let it go for an hour or two
[18:30] <mark76> 32%
[18:30] <tarvid> Old Dell 2400 1.7Ghz, 1GB RAM
[18:31] <silverlightning> should run anything fine, lubuntu windows 7
[18:32] <tarvid> b;ue and white dots keep advancing
[18:34] <mark76> 41%
[18:38] <mark76> 57%
[18:39] <mark76> Anything except Ubuntu 11:10, silverlightning :p
[18:39] <bioterror> ubuntu 11:10, is that a new part in bible? :)
[18:39] <silverlightning> what?
[18:39] <mark76> 71%
[18:39] <wxl> hah
[18:40] <mark76> You need a full gig to run 11:10
[18:40] <wxl> it's right after revelations
[18:40] <wxl> a full gig???
[18:40] <wxl> wow that's huge
[18:40] <wxl> (compared to the 20 or so windows 7 wants)
[18:41] <silverlightning> full gig?
[18:41] <mark76> I only have 1 gigabyte of memory. Than a quarter of that goes to graphics :(
[18:41] <mark76> 85%
[18:41] <wxl> oh you meant memory
[18:41] <wxl> hh
[18:41] <mark76> Yes
[18:42] <mark76> 91%
[18:42] <silverlightning> you think you could benefit from 2GB?
[18:43] <silverlightning> which really should be a easy upgrade
[18:43] <mark76> Okay. I tried playing that file you sent me in mplayer and all I get is the soundtrack
[18:43] <wxl> memory is always a great upgrade imho
[18:44] <mark76> Works fine in Xine
[18:44] <bioterror> someone can come and pickup 4GB of 1333MHz DDR3 for a 15 euros ;)
[18:45] <silverlightning> nice
[18:45] <silverlightning> mark76, try right click in mplayer window, then choose full screen
[18:46] <silverlightning> are you in xine mark76?
[18:46] <mark76> Yes
[18:47] <mark76> Where's the full screen option?
[18:47] <silverlightning> it's in mplayer
[18:47] <mark76> I can't see it
[18:47] <silverlightning> it's odd, this comes from a torrent with tons of recommendations
[18:48] <silverlightning> ok withing the black mplayer window, running with audio, right click, then full screen
[18:48] <silverlightning> and works on the xp laptop
[18:48] <silverlightning> in vlc
[18:48] <mark76> I don't have that option in my version
[18:49] <silverlightning> what? are we in the same lubuntu?
[18:49] <mark76> Mplayer should be the same in all desktops
[18:49] <mark76> Send me a screenshot of your mplayer menu
[18:49] <gazra> Hello, can someone please help me? I¿m trying to install lubuntu 10.10 with dual-boot on a computer that has W7 already. I have tried everything and it just doens't work, I'm wondering if there is an error in the installation images.
[18:51] <mark76> Nope, it doesn't work
[18:52] <mark76> Useless piece of cr*p
[18:52] <mark76> I'd use XIne if I were you
[18:53] <mark76> Xine works fine
[18:54] <gazra> Ups I meant Lubuntu 11.10
[18:54] <silverlightning> I can't make it take pic
[18:54] <silverlightning> weird
[18:55] <silverlightning> too much with film running?
[18:55] <gazra> Anyone could please give me any clue, I have read a lot of howtos and followed several, it doesn't work
[18:55] <gazra> I even tried to manually change the boot flag and install the boot manager in the partition of Linux, and I get missing operating System
[18:59] <gazra> No one?
[19:00] <silverlightning> mark76: daft really, I cannot make screen shot with mplayer open, but I am just right clicking in mplayer window
[19:01] <silverlightning> gazra, you choose only / for flagging, not /boot
[19:01] <silverlightning> lubuntu does the rest usually
[19:02] <silverlightning> gazra, you did try to boot the live cd, and reinstall boot with the boot repair stuff. There is a guide that show how to install the app from terminal in live cd, to fix it
[19:06] <mark76> It's probably a bug silverlightning
[19:07] <silverlightning> might get fixed then
[19:08] <silverlightning> wonder if it is mplayer or lxcde
[19:08] <gazra> silverlightning, I have tried to reinstall the whole thing from scratch, with no success
[19:08] <mark76> It's mplayer
[19:08] <silverlightning> or windows manger, I can never tell the difference
[19:08] <silverlightning> I see
[19:08] <gazra> silverlightning, can you send me the link for the how to install the app from Terminal in Live CD?
[19:08] <silverlightning> oh, maybe wait
[19:13] <silverlightning> http://mybookmarks.ro/desktop-ubuntu/boot-repair-fix-ubuntu-boot-issues-after-installing-another-os-or-faulty-grub-upgrade/
[19:13] <silverlightning> this is the best bootloader fuction,
[19:13] <silverlightning> there was another ubuntu help guide, but i can't find it
[19:13] <silverlightning> but it is the same bootloader, and the one recommended for lubuntu
[19:14] <silverlightning> gazra: after terminal install it will appear in the menu
[19:15] <silverlightning> with a wrench icon like the picture there
[19:17] <silverlightning> fount it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:17] <silverlightning> that is the official guide I think
[19:17] <silverlightning> and the one that worked for me
[19:22] <SAKKED> had to DL alternate because i have only 650mb disc :D
[19:22] <SAKKED> is it hard to install from alternate cd?
[19:23] <silverlightning> not sure
[19:30] <silverlightning> I think I installed with the 592MB image, just regular install
[20:35] <RaitoYagami> Somebody help me, how I configure the bluetooth device?
[20:35] <bioterror> !bluetooth
[20:40] <RaitoYagami> I don't know how to access it. I followed this instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[20:45] <RaitoYagami> How I insert the applet indicator bluetooth?
[20:45] <tarvid> Now I get login timed out after 60 seconds.
[20:49] <SAKKED> soon i haz lubuntu
[21:11] <Ibis> SAKKED: Did it worked out?
[21:20] <SAKKED> no
[21:20] <SAKKED> i just burned it to DVD
[21:20] <SAKKED> =)
[21:21] <bioterror> :)
[21:21] <bioterror> I have tinycore on a DVD somewhere :D
[21:21] <bioterror> burn 30MB image to 4GB disc
[21:47] <phillw> SAKKED: if your computer has ethernet connection, you can always use the minimal install route. It downloads just enough to kick ubuntu into terminal mode, then you add Lubuntu from the internet.
[22:29] <trakinas> hi guys. I have no apps on my Desktop Session Settings
[22:30] <trakinas> how do I add them there? I guess this is blocking my network manager from starting
[22:36] <trakinas> brb...