[12:29] <claudiuvlad> hi
[12:34] <iceroot> until feature freeze it is possible to mark bugs as whishlist for newer versions of that package? or what is the deadline?
[12:40] <yofel> iceroot: new version deadline is feature freeze - except if you can get a FFE, then it's final freeze
[12:42] <iceroot> yofel: thank you
[14:20] <FernandoMiguel> good afternoon friends. who's up for some popcorn?
[14:28] <penguin42> yeh sure, send a bucket this way
[15:51] <jcgs> Hi, is anyone using kubuntu? Can someone who is try adding a new "default panel" in their plasma workspace?
[15:52] <jcgs> just to warn you, mine crashes when I do that... what is it supposed to do?
[15:53] <jcgs> Oops, sorry wring place... I hadn't noticed Oneiric had been released...
[15:54] <sagaci> jcgs: I was told the same thing but I tried to add one and it was fine for me :/
[15:55] <jcgs> sagaci: orly? what is it supposed to do? why is it different from empty panel?
[15:56] <jcgs> Is there already a bug report for it? because I just reported it now, as bug #875792
[15:57] <sagaci> I don't know, it doesn't affect me :)
[15:58] <jcgs> Sagaci: sorry, maybe I didn't explain...what does it do when it works?
[16:00] <sagaci> brings up a stock bottom panel with all the default applets
[16:17] <penguin42> jcgs: I can confirm that
[16:24] <ian_> So when does the 12.04 alpha come out?
[16:25] <arand> !schedule | ian_
[16:26] <penguin42> hmm
[16:26] <arand> and s/ineiric/precise/ ...
[16:27] <penguin42> !help
[16:27] <penguin42> no, I mean help on the bot
[16:27] <penguin42> hmm
[16:27] <arand> !usage
[16:28] <arand> penguin42: I would assume the substition is done globally, #ubuntu-irc is likely the correct channel for addressing it...
[16:29] <penguin42> !no schedule is A schedule of Precise Pangolin (12.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule
[16:30] <jcgs> penguin42: thanks for looking into it :)
[16:30] <penguin42> apparently it forwarded it to #ubuntu-ops
[16:31] <jcgs> penguin42: I know this isn't the right channel to discuss this, but do you know how I can go about debuggin plasma?
[16:31] <arand> Yeah, well, it might poke the maintainer I guess :)
[16:32] <penguin42> jcgs: Probably not, remember this channel is for PP now, not OO; however, install the debug packages and get a full backtrace; then take gdb to it :-)
[16:33] <yofel> jcgs: IIRC that's the crash when you try to use 2 systrays
[16:33] <yofel> add an empty panel instead and manually add the widgets
[16:34] <jcgs> Sorry, guys I'm not good enough with irc to start private chats..
[16:35] <oCean> !schedule | penguin42
[16:35] <oCean> ^done
[16:36] <yofel> jcgs: also, if you _can_ reproduce the crash, please file a bug on bugs.kde.org
[16:36] <arand> oCean: Is the whole set of factoids sedded, (I presume that's how it's done?)
[16:36] <jcgs> penguin42: How can I attach gdb to a running application?
[16:37] <arand> Ah, yeah, seems like so..
[16:38] <arand> jcgs: gdb program pid
[16:39] <yofel> jcgs: for what?
[16:39] <jcgs> yofel: this plasma thing, to get a backtrace?
[16:39] <yofel> jcgs: the kde crash handler will give you that?
[16:39] <jcgs> yofel, i only got it once, but it crashed a lot more times. how do i get it back?
[16:40] <yofel> hm...
[16:41] <yofel> jcgs: can't remember right now, if it really doesn't start then use gdb
[17:33] <castlefox> im have some trouble installing 11.04 with Wubi on windows xp
[17:34] <castlefox> When I restart my computer there is no grub window where I can choose to boot into windows or ubuntu
[17:37] <urlin2u> castlefox, wubi loads then reboots and installs has that happened?
[17:38] <urlin2u> loads the iso basically you choose the size and location there
[17:38] <castlefox> urlin2u it just boots into windows XP like normal
[17:39] <castlefox> urlin2u: ive downloaded the ubuntu torrent twice now and the same thing happened both times
[17:39] <urlin2u> can you answer my question?
[17:40] <castlefox> urlin2u: no the install of ubuntu doesnt happen after the restart
[17:40] <castlefox> urlin2u: sorry
[17:41] <urlin2u> castlefox, it has to, to be installed, are you trying to make a partition and or put it outside of the XP partition?
[17:44] <castlefox> urlin2u: uh..... are you talking about the first install when I first run wubi for the second instal thing that usually happens after I restart the computer?    Im not sure if we are talking about the same 'installition'
[17:45] <castlefox> urlin2u:  I wanted to do it with wubi so I could just install it inside windows so I could test it out on this machine before I started dual booting.
[17:46] <urlin2u> castlefox, when you install wubi it asks where you want it as well as how big, and a user name and passwoprd, it then loads the iso, and reboots to install. It is in this first part some try to put wubi in a partition other than the windows one all kinds of mistakes, does this make sense. I other words you have juast chosen the size a name and password?
[17:47] <castlefox> urlin2u: yea I chose a user name password and give it 9GB.  It does its thing for like 2min and then asks to restart and then nothing happens
[17:48] <urlin2u> castlefox, hmm not sure than you have 9 gigs available in windows right?
[17:49] <castlefox> urlin2u:  windows says I got 12 gigs free on this HDD
[17:51] <urlin2u> castlefox, hard to say but I suspect that is the problem as windows scatters the files around, the idea with HD's is that only about 70% should be used for best performance in general.
[17:51] <urlin2u> IT windows guys will argue against that but they are windowscentric
[17:53] <castlefox> urlin2u: yea I unstand that it is not ideal.   Kind of hard to avoid since this hdd ia only 40gb
[17:53] <urlin2u> castlefox, so what are you going to do if you want ubuntu?
[17:58] <urlin2u> castlefox, I guess I would try a little smaller install size like 6 gigs, I think the min is 4 gigs for earlier releases than natty and beyond
[17:58] <castlefox> urlin2u: mmk
[17:59] <castlefox> urlin2u: i've been downloading the ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386 torrent
[18:00] <urlin2u> not sure of the minimal in oneiric, but the usb full loads are above 4 gigs needed I believe.
[18:00] <urlin2u> try reducing the install size gig at a time I guess, make sure XP is defragged as well .
[18:01] <castlefox> kk
[18:03] <castlefox> how big should my USB device be if I want to put it on there?
[18:09] <urlin2u> castlefox, you can load a usb in 2 ways a full load a actual install not sure I beleive it is aat least 4 gigs, or use a install load using unetbootin, it can be as little as a gig it is h=just the ISO, both will run slower than a real install though.
[18:09] <urlin2u> sorry 4 the the spelling
[18:10] <castlefox> urlin2u: ok.  Thanks
[18:21] <FernandoMiguel> anyone seeing Nautilus drag and drop failing by a few pixels?
[18:21]  * FernandoMiguel wonders if he is the only one running precise
[18:49] <soee> is there any chance to fix libglade2.0 dependency problems with :i386 on 64 bit system?
[18:50] <bjsnider> it would have to be converted to multiarch
[18:52] <soee> can it be done easily ? cant run most of the 32 bit games atm ;/
[19:26] <bjsnider> soee, not easily
[20:09] <sharpshooter> any one know the channel for brug related talks
[20:17] <urlin2u> sharpshooter, I don't think there is one, whats the problem?
[20:26] <csgeek> I'm having some audio/flash issues with 11.10 but I can't seem to see a pattern...
[20:26] <sharpshooter> urlin2u, I need to customize the progress bar in the brug theme any idea?
[20:26] <csgeek> everyone in a while.. I have static overlaid on top of the standard audio.... but now HD works, crappy videos work... standard works...
[20:26] <csgeek> I guess I shouldn't get annoyed that it has the audacity to work flowlessly atm
[20:27] <urlin2u> sharpshooter, brug or burg
[20:27] <sharpshooter> burg !
[20:27] <sharpshooter> urlin2u,Oops burg!! ;)
[20:29] <urlin2u> sharpshooter, progress bar not sure what you mean, I use it actually.
[20:29] <urlin2u> the countdown down to boot?
[20:30] <sharpshooter> urlin2u, I mean the burg splash screen stuff
[20:30] <sharpshooter> urlin2u, yeah !!
[20:31] <urlin2u> mine is a round icon that has dots disappearing, yours look like that, you know how to change themes and resolution?
[20:32] <urlin2u> or dots appearing I forget.
[20:32] <sharpshooter> urlin2u,  I just install the burg and its having a pro look at boot manager its a awesome one
[20:32] <sharpshooter> urlin2u,  u r talking about plymouth
[20:33] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: I'll upgrade my play vm to PP - that is if I can finish the upgrade to OO - it's hanging at 1st and 2nd post upgrade boot
[20:33] <sharpshooter> urlin2u,  the dot one is a plymouth theme
[20:33] <urlin2u> I like it better than plain grub, not really sur about customizing we are actually way off topic here so I was just trying to get to the gist.
[20:35] <urlin2u> I never could tell what is plymouth what s splash I just want it to boot the computer is a utility for me basically.
[20:35] <FernandoMiguel> penguin42: clean install
[20:36] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: No, upgrade from a month or so old alpha I think
[20:37]  * kyofel just finished upgrading his server to oneiric.
[20:37] <kyofel> now with everything on oneiric I can think about what I'll upgrade to precise first :D
[20:41] <FernandoMiguel> kyofel: \o/
[20:49] <arand> I wonder why distro-info i386 is still pending, shouldn't everything just get published willy-nilly this time of the cycle? :)
[20:49] <penguin42> hmm interesting, lightdm-gtk-greeter hadn't been installed
[20:51] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: I assume you're upgrading by just s/oneiric/precise/g apt ?
[20:52] <kyofel> how else? not that much will get updated right now
[20:52] <FernandoMiguel> penguin42: correct
[20:52] <penguin42> at least precise is rememberable unlike oneiric
[20:52] <FernandoMiguel> rite
[20:52] <arand> It's about 20 packages diff or so, I think
[20:52] <kyofel> heh
[20:52] <FernandoMiguel> I never could type it
[20:53] <FernandoMiguel> maybe... but don't keep both repos
[20:53] <FernandoMiguel> I did that back in 7.x and it was a MESS
[20:54] <penguin42> 63 packages now
[20:54] <arand> Oh, mustve misestimated
[20:54]  * penguin42 hopes apt hasn't broken on any archs this time around - that was a bit of a pain for OO
[20:54] <FernandoMiguel> I still dotn know why I see all those :386 packages
[20:55] <penguin42> probably flash or something similar
[20:55] <FernandoMiguel> Fetched 31.1 MB in 54s (571 kB/s)
[20:56] <FernandoMiguel> penguin42: no.... it's about 1/4 of the packages
[20:56] <FernandoMiguel> started 2 months ago
[20:56] <penguin42> still, the fact that multiarch works is about a zillion steps forward
[20:56] <penguin42> might let me upgrade my work laptop to a 64bit install
[20:58] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Yeh, a PP vm
[20:59] <FernandoMiguel> ?
[20:59] <penguin42> FernandoMiguel: Just upgraded one of my VMs to PP
[21:01] <FernandoMiguel> ok
[21:01] <FernandoMiguel> I'm not alone anymore
[21:01] <penguin42> nod
[23:29] <FernandoMiguel> nity nite