=== akgraner` is now known as akgraner === bbya_ is now known as bbya === Mkaysi|ZNC is now known as Mkaysi === arif-ali2 is now known as arif-ali [12:29] hi [12:34] until feature freeze it is possible to mark bugs as whishlist for newer versions of that package? or what is the deadline? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:40] iceroot: new version deadline is feature freeze - except if you can get a FFE, then it's final freeze [12:42] yofel: thank you [14:20] good afternoon friends. who's up for some popcorn? [14:28] yeh sure, send a bucket this way [15:51] Hi, is anyone using kubuntu? Can someone who is try adding a new "default panel" in their plasma workspace? [15:52] just to warn you, mine crashes when I do that... what is it supposed to do? [15:53] Oops, sorry wring place... I hadn't noticed Oneiric had been released... [15:54] jcgs: I was told the same thing but I tried to add one and it was fine for me :/ [15:55] sagaci: orly? what is it supposed to do? why is it different from empty panel? [15:56] Is there already a bug report for it? because I just reported it now, as bug #875792 [15:56] Launchpad bug 875792 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Plasma workspace appears to crash when trying to add a default panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875792 [15:57] I don't know, it doesn't affect me :) [15:58] Sagaci: sorry, maybe I didn't explain...what does it do when it works? [16:00] brings up a stock bottom panel with all the default applets [16:17] jcgs: I can confirm that [16:24] So when does the 12.04 alpha come out? [16:25] !schedule | ian_ [16:25] ian_: A schedule of Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [16:26] hmm [16:26] and s/ineiric/precise/ ... [16:27] !help [16:27] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:27] no, I mean help on the bot [16:27] hmm [16:27] !usage [16:27] Hi! I'm #ubuntu+1's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [16:28] penguin42: I would assume the substition is done globally, #ubuntu-irc is likely the correct channel for addressing it... [16:29] !no schedule is A schedule of Precise Pangolin (12.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule [16:30] penguin42: thanks for looking into it :) [16:30] apparently it forwarded it to #ubuntu-ops [16:31] penguin42: I know this isn't the right channel to discuss this, but do you know how I can go about debuggin plasma? [16:31] Yeah, well, it might poke the maintainer I guess :) [16:32] jcgs: Probably not, remember this channel is for PP now, not OO; however, install the debug packages and get a full backtrace; then take gdb to it :-) [16:33] jcgs: IIRC that's the crash when you try to use 2 systrays [16:33] add an empty panel instead and manually add the widgets [16:34] Sorry, guys I'm not good enough with irc to start private chats.. [16:35] !schedule | penguin42 [16:35] penguin42: A schedule of Precise Pangolin (12.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule [16:35] ^done [16:36] jcgs: also, if you _can_ reproduce the crash, please file a bug on bugs.kde.org [16:36] oCean: Is the whole set of factoids sedded, (I presume that's how it's done?) [16:36] penguin42: How can I attach gdb to a running application? [16:37] Ah, yeah, seems like so.. [16:38] jcgs: gdb program pid [16:39] jcgs: for what? [16:39] yofel: this plasma thing, to get a backtrace? [16:39] jcgs: the kde crash handler will give you that? [16:39] yofel, i only got it once, but it crashed a lot more times. how do i get it back? [16:40] hm... [16:41] jcgs: can't remember right now, if it really doesn't start then use gdb === micahg_ is now known as micahg [17:33] im have some trouble installing 11.04 with Wubi on windows xp [17:34] When I restart my computer there is no grub window where I can choose to boot into windows or ubuntu [17:37] castlefox, wubi loads then reboots and installs has that happened? [17:38] loads the iso basically you choose the size and location there [17:38] urlin2u it just boots into windows XP like normal [17:39] urlin2u: ive downloaded the ubuntu torrent twice now and the same thing happened both times [17:39] can you answer my question? [17:40] urlin2u: no the install of ubuntu doesnt happen after the restart [17:40] urlin2u: sorry [17:41] castlefox, it has to, to be installed, are you trying to make a partition and or put it outside of the XP partition? [17:44] urlin2u: uh..... are you talking about the first install when I first run wubi for the second instal thing that usually happens after I restart the computer? Im not sure if we are talking about the same 'installition' [17:45] urlin2u: I wanted to do it with wubi so I could just install it inside windows so I could test it out on this machine before I started dual booting. [17:46] castlefox, when you install wubi it asks where you want it as well as how big, and a user name and passwoprd, it then loads the iso, and reboots to install. It is in this first part some try to put wubi in a partition other than the windows one all kinds of mistakes, does this make sense. I other words you have juast chosen the size a name and password? [17:47] urlin2u: yea I chose a user name password and give it 9GB. It does its thing for like 2min and then asks to restart and then nothing happens [17:48] castlefox, hmm not sure than you have 9 gigs available in windows right? [17:49] urlin2u: windows says I got 12 gigs free on this HDD [17:51] castlefox, hard to say but I suspect that is the problem as windows scatters the files around, the idea with HD's is that only about 70% should be used for best performance in general. [17:51] IT windows guys will argue against that but they are windowscentric [17:53] urlin2u: yea I unstand that it is not ideal. Kind of hard to avoid since this hdd ia only 40gb [17:53] castlefox, so what are you going to do if you want ubuntu? [17:58] castlefox, I guess I would try a little smaller install size like 6 gigs, I think the min is 4 gigs for earlier releases than natty and beyond [17:58] urlin2u: mmk [17:59] urlin2u: i've been downloading the ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386 torrent [18:00] not sure of the minimal in oneiric, but the usb full loads are above 4 gigs needed I believe. === winut_ is now known as winut [18:00] try reducing the install size gig at a time I guess, make sure XP is defragged as well . [18:01] kk [18:03] how big should my USB device be if I want to put it on there? [18:09] castlefox, you can load a usb in 2 ways a full load a actual install not sure I beleive it is aat least 4 gigs, or use a install load using unetbootin, it can be as little as a gig it is h=just the ISO, both will run slower than a real install though. [18:09] sorry 4 the the spelling [18:10] urlin2u: ok. Thanks [18:21] anyone seeing Nautilus drag and drop failing by a few pixels? [18:21] * FernandoMiguel wonders if he is the only one running precise [18:49] is there any chance to fix libglade2.0 dependency problems with :i386 on 64 bit system? [18:50] it would have to be converted to multiarch [18:52] can it be done easily ? cant run most of the 32 bit games atm ;/ === FernandoMiguel is now known as FernandoM_fewd === winut_ is now known as winut === FernandoM_fewd is now known as FernandoMiguel === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX [19:26] soee, not easily === yofel_ is now known as Guest96019 === ampelbein_ is now known as Ampelbein [20:09] any one know the channel for brug related talks === Guest96019 is now known as kyofel [20:17] sharpshooter, I don't think there is one, whats the problem? [20:26] I'm having some audio/flash issues with 11.10 but I can't seem to see a pattern... [20:26] urlin2u, I need to customize the progress bar in the brug theme any idea? [20:26] everyone in a while.. I have static overlaid on top of the standard audio.... but now HD works, crappy videos work... standard works... [20:26] I guess I shouldn't get annoyed that it has the audacity to work flowlessly atm [20:27] sharpshooter, brug or burg [20:27] burg ! [20:27] urlin2u,Oops burg!! ;) [20:29] sharpshooter, progress bar not sure what you mean, I use it actually. [20:29] the countdown down to boot? [20:30] urlin2u, I mean the burg splash screen stuff [20:30] urlin2u, yeah !! [20:31] mine is a round icon that has dots disappearing, yours look like that, you know how to change themes and resolution? [20:32] or dots appearing I forget. [20:32] urlin2u, I just install the burg and its having a pro look at boot manager its a awesome one [20:32] urlin2u, u r talking about plymouth [20:33] FernandoMiguel: I'll upgrade my play vm to PP - that is if I can finish the upgrade to OO - it's hanging at 1st and 2nd post upgrade boot [20:33] urlin2u, the dot one is a plymouth theme [20:33] I like it better than plain grub, not really sur about customizing we are actually way off topic here so I was just trying to get to the gist. [20:35] I never could tell what is plymouth what s splash I just want it to boot the computer is a utility for me basically. [20:35] penguin42: clean install [20:36] FernandoMiguel: No, upgrade from a month or so old alpha I think [20:37] * kyofel just finished upgrading his server to oneiric. [20:37] now with everything on oneiric I can think about what I'll upgrade to precise first :D [20:41] kyofel: \o/ [20:49] I wonder why distro-info i386 is still pending, shouldn't everything just get published willy-nilly this time of the cycle? :) [20:49] hmm interesting, lightdm-gtk-greeter hadn't been installed [20:51] FernandoMiguel: I assume you're upgrading by just s/oneiric/precise/g apt ? [20:52] how else? not that much will get updated right now [20:52] penguin42: correct [20:52] at least precise is rememberable unlike oneiric [20:52] rite [20:52] It's about 20 packages diff or so, I think [20:52] heh [20:52] I never could type it [20:53] maybe... but don't keep both repos [20:53] I did that back in 7.x and it was a MESS [20:54] 63 packages now [20:54] Oh, mustve misestimated [20:54] * penguin42 hopes apt hasn't broken on any archs this time around - that was a bit of a pain for OO [20:54] I still dotn know why I see all those :386 packages [20:55] probably flash or something similar [20:55] Fetched 31.1 MB in 54s (571 kB/s) [20:56] penguin42: no.... it's about 1/4 of the packages [20:56] started 2 months ago [20:56] still, the fact that multiarch works is about a zillion steps forward [20:56] might let me upgrade my work laptop to a 64bit install [20:58] FernandoMiguel: Yeh, a PP vm [20:59] ? [20:59] FernandoMiguel: Just upgraded one of my VMs to PP [21:01] ok [21:01] I'm not alone anymore [21:01] nod [23:29] nity nite