[11:39] <penguin42> yofel: Bug 875660 as the cause of it wrongly selecting the HDMI
[11:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 875660 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "PA and knotify startup race leads to wrong device selection (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875660
[11:40] <yofel> ah, thx
[11:40] <penguin42> I'll report it to KDE as well, since I know we don't really handle KDE bugs
[11:50] <yofel> penguin42: poke me once you've got the bug, it's probably an issue on the KDE side (as knotify should use phonon, not alsa...)
[11:53] <penguin42> yofel: Ah that makes sense
[11:55] <yofel> penguin42: as an estimate what happens: http://paste.kde.org/134299
[11:58] <penguin42> yofel:What's really annoying is I can't persuade PA to switch back to analog as default now I've restarted it's daemon
[12:01] <penguin42> ah, pacmd set-default-sink
[12:01] <penguin42> right, now I've got music - I can think
[12:09] <penguin42> yofel: KDE bug 284176
[12:09] <ubot4> KDE bug 284176 in general "knotify4 v pulseaudio startup race" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284176
[16:33] <AlexzAK> Hi, all... zeitgeist-daemon eating all my cpu!  I've upgraded to oneric couple hours ago
[16:33] <AlexzAK> What to do with it?
[18:15] <penguin42> any suggestions for bug 874975 - I put it into ubiquity because it was failure on 1st boot after install - but it could be nouveau?
[18:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 874975 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 11.10 does not start after instlallation [at Stopping userspace bootsplash] (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/874975
[19:00] <penguin42> why is 97513 a wishlist?
[19:00] <penguin42> bug 97513
[19:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 97513 in squid (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "Squid requires restart after Network Manager made connection to network (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 58)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97513
[20:04] <bil21al> how can i get the patch on the app??
[20:40] <arand> bil21al: You may need to be a bit more specific?
[20:50] <bil21al> arand: what are you talking about?
[20:51] <arand> bil21al: what app? what patch? I meant.
[20:52] <bil21al> i didnt get you arand:
[20:53] <kyofel> bil21al: <bil21al> how can i get the patch on the app?? < what did you mean?
[20:54] <bil21al> like we reports the bugs and some time a patch is attached which is good . how can we get the patch of any application like if we want to get the patch of  banshee so how can i?
[20:55] <arand> You get the source of the application, patch it, and rebuild it into a new package.
[20:57] <bil21al> you mean the source code (the programming language)  is there any ubuntu wiki page for the study actually i m a IT student so thats why i was asking
[20:57] <jtaylor> bil21al: http://patches.ubuntu.com/
[20:58] <jtaylor> and for debian http://patch-tracker.debian.org/
[21:00] <arand> bil21al: Most wiki pages are actually based on the notion of you generating the patch/debdiff though, i.e. from a developers point of view...
[21:00] <bil21al> ok thankx
[21:01] <penguin42> one that might be worth looking out for on +1 upgrades; this one failed with [+0.18s] DEBUG: Failed to load session file /usr/share/xgreeters/lightdm-gtk-greeter.desktop: No such file or directory:   in the lightdm log - it hadn't installed the gtk greeter but was trying to use it
[21:02] <arand> bil21al: The last post of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324672 is a reasonable outline of steps, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide is very good, though not directly describing that task.
[21:04] <bil21al> thankx bro
[21:51] <Cheesehead> Anyone around know much about how Apport and core dumps?
[21:51] <Cheesehead> I have a Brainstorm idea that's beyond my technical depth, and I'm looking for some input: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28700/
[21:51] <Cheesehead> So I can moderate the idea properly.
[22:16] <hggdh> Cheesehead: what you want to know?
[22:17] <hggdh> Cheesehead: if apport is running, cores are automagically saved on /var/crash/, with additional metadata
[22:18] <hggdh> see apport-retrace for how to play with them, and apport-(gtk|kde) for how to run initial processing on them
[22:20] <hggdh> additionally -- again, if apport is running --, you get prompted for a bug submission (and all data, core amd meta, are uploaded to the bug)
[22:35] <Cheesehead> hggdh: Right, thany you. I have used Apport, and I checked the wiki page before coming here. The idea seems to be about renaming the core-dump filename for some kind of benefit that I don't quite get. So I ask.
[22:37] <Cheesehead> What I want to know is: Is he going about this the hard way? Is what he wants already handled by Apport and Launchpad appropriately? Is he talking about a valid use case?
[22:37] <Cheesehead> Or a corner case?
[22:52] <Cheesehead> I suspect the submitter is talking about pulling data from the bug report (of course, all my work has been on quite the other end)
[23:19] <penguin42> lightdm really isn't helping - it doesn't seem to put any diags to the screen when it fails