[01:08] <broder> chrisccoulson: did you ever make any progress on that dell/fn-f7 weirdness?
[01:11] <broder> i'm seeing two things that are weird: (1) i see a keypress event come in whenever i dock or undock from *two* devices, the "Video Bus" and the "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard". (2) if i use input-events, both keypresses seem to come in when i dock/undock, but the one from the actual keyboard only gets seen by g-s-d the first time i press another key
[01:11] <broder> i can't figure out what would be holding up the keypress event from getting to g-s-d
[01:12] <broder> oh, hmm, i guess chrisccoulson is in EU. maybe tomorrow
[14:57] <vvv> Could anyone point me to the reason why Emerald was removed from 11.10? (or at least tell where to seek the answer)
[16:23] <BinaryMan> what am I supposed to do with the files created by  bzr branch lp:~gnome3-team/gnome-control-center/ubuntu ?
[16:25] <dobey> BinaryMan: well, for what purpose did you branch it?
[16:26] <BinaryMan> Recent revisions
[16:26] <BinaryMan>  + re-enable "System Settings" on session menu
[16:26] <BinaryMan> dobey
[16:27] <dobey> is the package not in the gnome3-team PPA?
[16:29] <BinaryMan> dobey: when I went to install that, I got a very specific message that it could break things.
[16:29] <BinaryMan> errr
[16:30] <BinaryMan> add the PPA
[16:30] <BinaryMan> install is not the right word.
[16:30] <dobey> yes, the gnome3 PPA could break things (any change really, *could* break something)
[16:30] <dobey> it's a PPA for testing, for a reason
[16:31] <dobey> if you build the same package locally, you're not going to avoid breakage
[16:31] <dobey> if there is any breakage, that is
[16:34] <BinaryMan> dobey: but won't everything in that PPA be available to me?
[16:34] <dobey> if you add the PPA, yes
[16:34] <BinaryMan> I just want to upgrade gnome-control-center
[16:34] <BinaryMan> Nothing else.
[16:34] <dobey> but if you want only specific .debs, you can also download only those files, off the launchpad page for the PPA
[16:35] <BinaryMan> :/
[16:35] <BinaryMan> I knew that.
[17:50] <geser> vvv: emerald got removed because it failed to build in oneiric (bug #831111)
[17:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 831111 in emerald "emerald version 0.8.8-0ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831111
[17:52] <vvv> geser: 0.9.4 has no problems with the compiz version included in oneiric and it has been around since April
[17:53] <geser> then it looks like nobody was interested enough to update the package to 0.9.4 (which would probably also fix this build failure)
[17:56] <vvv> geser: what should I do so it is restored in next Ubuntu release?
[17:57] <geser> unlikely unless someone steps up to maintain it (update the package regularly)
[17:58] <vvv> May I volunteer? Where can I sign up and read procedures, etc?
[18:01] <geser> vvv: sure, a good starting place in this case might be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[18:01] <geser> feel free to ask any questions you might have (#ubuntu-motu might be better suited than this channel depending on the topic of your question)
[18:02] <vvv> Thanks
[18:03] <geser> although the package got removed from the archives, the old version is still available through Launchpad, so you might use it for a starting point
[18:58] <czajkowski> evening
[19:20] <jtran> hey all, i'm having a couple issues.  i'm running oneiric desktop on my macbook pro (2009 model) , and often times the mouse will lockup on me.   Didn't happen when i was on natty.
[19:20] <jtran> the other issue is the speaker volume is so damn low (both natty and oneiric)
[19:21] <jtran> actually one more issue.  when i mouse over to the left , the panel doesn't come out.  i have to hit the apple 'command' key to force it to pop out
[19:28] <jtaylor> bug 875878, another issue of broken gtk 2 filechooser
[19:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 875878 in gtk+2.0 "Easymp3gain Hangs when clicking Add File or Add Folder" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875878
[19:28] <jtaylor> I still recommend backporting git HEAD
[19:29] <jtaylor> I'm not going to go finding the single commits which fix this issue this time
[23:08] <TheMuso> RAOF: How much video RAM can the intel GPU use from system RAM? I've got a monitor connected to my thinkpad via a displayport to VGA adapter. The monitor supports 1920x1080, but can only get 1600x900 resolution.
[23:08] <TheMuso> The VGA adapter is in use because its connected via KVM, and the KVM can handle the max res of the monitor.
[23:10] <RAOF> TheMuso: The intel GPU can use ALL THE RAM!!!!  More likely the problem is that the DisplayPort?VGA adapter only supports 2 DP lanes, and that's not technically enough bandwidth to drive a 1920x1080 display.
[23:10] <TheMuso> Ah ok.
[23:11] <TheMuso> Whats annoying is that the thinkpad has a VGA port, but it doesn't appear to be usable with the intel GPU.
[23:11] <TheMuso> I suspect I have to use the NVIDIA GPU to use that port.
[23:12] <RAOF> mid.gmane.org/1318278815-31492-1-git-send-email-ajax@redhat.com says hello.
[23:13] <RAOF> (A patch to automatically fall back to dithered 6bpp on such adapters)
[23:13] <TheMuso> ah ok
[23:13] <RAOF> I'm surprised that only the nVidia card is hooked up to the VGA.  That's not something I've seen before :)
[23:14] <TheMuso> I think that is what was the case, I can't remember whether I connected it post reboot or not, I think I did, but I'll need to check again to be sure.
[23:15] <TheMuso> Well it could just be a driver bug/missing functionality somewhere...
[23:15] <TheMuso> Let me finish these merges, and I'll change things over and try again.
[23:15] <RAOF> No!  Surely not!  Driver bugs are totally unheard of!
[23:16] <TheMuso> lol