[10:40] anybody know if there is a menu editor in the works from upstream? [10:42] reon: I don't know, but have you tried alacarte? [10:46] beardygnome, I made the mistake of just installing it with all it's recommends and now I can't get rid of them, sigh! [14:32] i have switched my lightdm greeter from the unity one to the lightdm-gtk-greeter and now i can't login [14:32] it just loops back to the greeter screen [14:32] any ideas how to debug this? === Soupermanito is now known as GridCube [15:57] ochosi, you here? [16:00] GridCube: i'm leaving in fact [16:00] oh [16:00] but shoot [16:00] well im seeing a lot of broken icons [16:00] to the worst i'll read the backlog and answer tomorrow [16:00] where? [16:01] http://ompldr.org/vYXU0dQ/pavu.png [16:01] example [16:01] see the >Clear chat... [16:01] yeah, guess that specific headphone-icon is missing in elementary [16:01] im getting those on empathy as well [16:01] on the + and - symbols [16:02] what you can try is extend the "Inherit=" line in elementary-xubuntu's index.theme file [16:02] i can look into this in more depth some other time, not today [16:02] http://imagebin.org/179323 [16:02] the question is in which icon themes those icons exist [16:03] probably "gnome" [16:03] oh, probably yes [16:03] elementary decided to drop quite a few icons [16:03] :/ oh [16:03] and they're focussing on their own OS/distro atm, so i guess at some point we'll have to start looking for something new [16:03] well i wanted to let you know [16:03] i see [16:04] well, xchat is obviously using non-standard "+"-" icons [16:04] otherwise they would appear, i'm rather sure [16:04] oh, ochosi is speaking [16:04] ;) [16:04] but anyway, more time to speak about that another day [16:04] see you everyone! [16:04] :) [16:04] see you [16:04] haha [16:04] yeah, i thought that was too good to be true. [16:17] bah. i wonder where we are with canonical IS [16:17] pleia2?? [16:49] Hi ;),,quick question; Is xubuntu ( read a review which stated this but that was a yearish ago ) still mono free and is that meant to be forwarded onto future releases ? ;) [16:51] neighborlee, afaik it is. it's not a definitive goal to keep xubuntu mono-free, but since mono would bring up many dependencies and stuff, it's highly possible that it will not get included [16:52] I need more than 'possible' [16:52] I need to know its purposely gone [16:52] mono is dangerous. as clearly stated by richard stalman of the FSF [16:53] thats my reason basically [16:53] and why I was curious [16:53] :))) [16:53] othewise id have to goto fedora [16:54] sorry to seem anal about it.but I have to know its meant to be gone on purpose ;) [16:54] its not [16:54] I doubt a moral stand is taken on the subject [16:55] if for some reason it is thinked to be nesesary it could get in, but its not probable [16:55] Simple, sudo apt-get purge mono* fixed [16:55] neighborlee, the only way to make sure your distro doesn't ever have mono is to create and maintain your own distro [16:56] fedora already has [16:56] they agree apparently with richard stallman of FSF ;) [16:56] I was hoping xubuntu did too ;) [16:56] hence the question :( [16:57] Fedora even have tutorials on how to properly use Mono :P [16:57] your missing the point my friend [16:57] I meant ,,mono or any mono app, not incuded by default [16:57] I dont care what someone installs later ;) [16:57] it's not a matter of heart for us. if you want to affect/make sure mono is not included, feel free to join the developer community and act [16:57] heart ? [16:58] im not talking about heart.. [16:58] Im referencing facts [16:58] you dont know who richard stallman , of the FSF is ? [16:58] i do know, but that's got nothing to do with this. [16:58] of course it does [16:58] he specificallay says to 'avoid mono' [16:58] pretty clear ;) [16:59] he says many things [16:59] but anyway..this isn't a arguement..its fact [16:59] he is entitled to is opinion [16:59] he is a foss leader [16:59] faik ;) [16:59] so? [16:59] * GridCube shrugs [16:59] he doesn't lead xubuntu [16:59] I surmised that ;) [16:59] ok thx for info [17:00] no problem. [17:00] my country has the biggest worldwide system for giving free computers to school students, stallman said it was EVEEL because it came whit dual boot linux/7 [17:00] that simple thing says many things about stallman [17:02] excuse me ? [17:02] GridCube, ie ? [17:03] neighborlee, GridCube: #xubuntu-offtopic please, if you want to continue [17:03] :) === micahg_ is now known as micahg [17:29] madnick, good job there getting the fellow silent :P [17:30] haha [17:31] * micahg would've said that the Ubuntu Tech Board has approved of mono, so any derivative is free to include it (it's in the repositories...) [17:32] For the record, this is the second derivative he's bothered [17:33] Unit193: if it gets trollish, you could mention it to the IRC council [17:33] Unit193, ugh. if you don't mind, tell that in -ops-team [17:33] micahg, council too, but -ops(-team) first, much faster response [17:33] micahg, and people can do something for the issue too [17:34] knome: Do I have to? They are scary... [17:35] micahg: No worse than here/offtopic [17:35] Unit193, they aren't :) [17:40] knome: sorry, that's what I meant (no caffeine yet today) [17:40] micahg, hehe, np [17:41] knome , micahg: Thanks [17:42] Unit193, np :) [17:42] Unit193, thank you [17:46] I searched, it was 2011-09-27 [17:46] the previous attack? [17:48] Not as highkey afaict [17:52] huh? [17:54] Worse here, but I'll read it again :P [20:24] hello [20:25] some1 here? [20:25] Yes [20:26] Maybe you can help me with a problem I got with xubuntu 11.10 [20:26] ? [20:26] #xubuntu is for support, there are more people to help there :) [20:27] but if no one answers I need to look somewhere else for help :-) [20:27] hehe [20:27] Next on the list would be either #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners [20:27] (i was not in #xubuntu, sorry) [20:29] okay so the problem is this: if I try to mount or open an audio-cd thunar tells me: could not mount audio-cd and place could not be mounted [20:29] in ubuntu 10.10 this is possible [20:32] got no clue ? [20:33] Well, I hardly ever use CDs, but remote filesystems give an error then they work [20:34] well, whats the filesystem of an audio cd? [20:34] bug 159527 [20:34] Launchpad bug 176507 in network-config (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #159527 [hardy] RTL8185L driver not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176507 [20:34] sorry [20:34] bug 159627 [20:34] Launchpad bug 159627 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Audio CD will not mount" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159627 [20:35] dont know what filesystem an audio-cd has [20:35] okay I will read this launchpad thind [20:35] -d+g [20:36] It was fixed in natty it says [20:36] But [20:36] I cannot test it myself [20:37] (don't have any audio cd's) [20:38] you can burn one and then try it :-) [20:39] Oneiric is current (Hard to think) [20:39] to me it seems it is not fixed [20:40] it's fixed in thunar >= 1.2, when you have the needed gvfs modules installed [20:41] (probably gvfs-backends) [20:41] gvfs do I get them via synaptics packet manager ? [20:44] yes I got it [20:44] it works [20:45] thank you