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drcahs3-:  I gave that up years ago...no more soldering irons for me.00:00
ahs3-soulg77, I'm not sure what you are asking, is it showing in wifi manager? (i'm assuming xubuntu has one)00:01
drcahs, it does00:01
ahs3-drc, I know what you mean00:02
VlynMy PC gets a little bit bored with Linux, poor things needs games to even wake up ^^00:02
ahs3-ah does it show up soulg77 ?00:02
ahs3-lol00:02
ahs3-lots of cool games for Linux00:02
ahs3-bzflag, urt, etc...00:02
drcahs3-: That's why I use 'buntu...I just don't care enough anymore to try gentoo/arch/slack.00:02
VlynDwarf Fortress, Battle of Wesnoth… :-)00:02
ahs3-yep00:02
VlynBut I talkt about modern games ^^00:03
VlynDX11 and so on00:03
ahs3-thats kinda where i'm getting too drc00:03
Vlyn-t00:03
soulg77ahs3, never saw a wifi manager, I'll look again.00:03
soulg77and it is Xubuntu 11.0400:03
knomeVlyn, ahs3-: hey guys! check out our offtopic channel #xubuntu-offtopic too ;)00:03
ahs3-lol Vlyn bzflag may not be modern, but it makes up for it in gameplay00:03
VlynDwarf Fortress too :-) what's bzflag?00:04
ahs3-soulg77, check upper right of your screen00:04
ahs3-tank game00:04
VlynAnd we should go into this… offtopic thingy :300:04
ahs3-I happen to make maps for bzflag :)00:04
ahs3-I guess so00:04
knomethanks :)00:04
ahs3-knome, are we off-topic?00:05
soulg77oh you mean the 2 arrows?00:05
knomeahs3-, a bit :)00:05
ahs3-:-)00:05
* ahs3- bows to knome's wisdom 00:06
soulg77ahs3, you mean the 2 arrows?00:09
NazosanGuess I'll ask again just in case, but does anyone know how to control what resolution is used on the login screen?00:23
knomeNazosan, i think you have been able to control that with gdm2setup before (from PPA), but i don't know if that's true with oneiric too00:26
NazosanI'll try to take a look00:26
Nazosanhmm...  You say from ppa?  Any idea what package it might be in?00:28
ahs3-soulg77, check top right for a icon for wifi, <<--- knome you know this one?00:28
knomehm?00:29
ahs3-problem with wifi00:29
knomewhat kind of?00:30
Nazosanit looks like my _real_ problem is that it detects the fact that I have another monitor plugged in (albeit unplugged...)  It tries to set a lowest commond denominator (why not highest?) resolution or something.00:30
knomeNazosan, interesting. i don't know the answer though... :)00:30
VlynUhm… I'm now on my FTP Server with Thunar. Where is the bookmark option? :-(00:31
Nazosandarn00:31
knomeVlyn, drag and drop to bookmark bar00:31
NazosanYou're the only one speaking in here, so you're supposed to know EVERYTHING knome00:31
knomeheh00:31
ahs3-<soulg77> Hello, anyone available to help me with getting a minipci wireless card to work? <<--- knome00:31
knomesoulg77, what model? have you searched google?00:31
Vlynknome: Ah, thanks00:32
VlynNazosan: Don't look at me, I'm not there, I don't know anything xD00:32
* Nazosan didn't00:33
soulg77knome: for the wireless card? truemobile 1300 mini pci00:38
knomesoulg77, looks like that's something for ndiswrapper...00:39
knome!ndiswrapper | soulg7700:39
ubottusoulg77: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:39
soulg77cool, I check it out. thanks.00:40
knomeit will be some work, but it will work in the end00:41
soulg77knome: maybe I'm an idiot but where in Xubuntu can I find the network manager?00:56
knomesoulg77, it should appear in the indicator area on your panel00:56
leopard20hi00:57
knomehello00:58
leopard20i ahve a skystar2, can it works on xubuntu?00:58
soulg77is that the two arrows pointing in opposite directions?00:58
mtrgi upgraded to 11.10 but i notice some of my software, such as evince, are not gtk themed - why?00:59
knomesoulg77, yeah00:59
mtrgbut some of the other software, other than evince, are OK and theme by gtk00:59
knomeleopard20, have you googled it?00:59
leopard20no00:59
knomeleopard20, i suggest try googling that + "ubuntu" first :)00:59
leopard20i like asking experts rather than googling01:00
knomei don't know more than google01:00
mtrgif anyone helps me out, i'll ask god in church monday to give you a lot of money in next life01:00
leopard20the ubuntu channel is useless01:00
mtrgwith a lot of free pizza01:00
leopard20is there is autocad for linux??01:00
knomeleopard20, i think your choices are to be patient and wait for somebody who knows to show up, or search google and/or the ubuntu forums01:01
mtrgleopard20: i think you should find commercial alternatives that support linux01:01
leopard20ok, and what is this channel made for??01:01
knomeleopard20, for helping people, but if nobody knows the answer, it's really hard to give you the answer01:02
mtrgwe are not paid to feed your ass with advise regarding any possible software you might think of01:02
knomemh, now let's please watch the language and attitude, thanks01:02
leopard20rude ppl01:03
mtrgno, i'm rude, but not the channel.. i'm just a visitor01:03
mtrgmy rude behaviour is not associated with these guys01:04
leopard20i just visited here bc i like freewares and open sources wares01:04
leopard20i like to change to linux from windows01:04
leopard20but i want to use autoxcad or what matches it01:05
mtrgi've already switched since ~5 years ago and i'm super happy with linux distros01:05
knomemtrg, please take a note that this kind of behaviour is not wanted in this channel01:05
mtrgleopard20: i'll google for itfor you01:05
mtrgknome: ok - sorry /me sheds some tear01:05
leopard20no, thanks\01:05
leopard20i ll google myaself01:05
leopard20can i ask a question mtrg?01:06
mtrgknome: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-228890.html01:06
mtrgops, leopard20 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-228890.html01:06
mtrgit seems there are opensource ones (ithought there isn't.. intresting that there is)01:06
mtrgbut that is 2006, may be there are better options in 201101:07
leopard20what you got from linux better than windowws ?01:07
soulg77knome: I probably should have said I need help with getting the drivers and my mini pci card to work01:07
soulg77sorry01:07
knomesoulg77, sorry - i'm not an expert on ndiswrapper. since this is not a xubuntu specific issue, you could ask #ubuntu too about your issue01:08
leopard20what makes linux better than windows?01:08
knomeleopard20, there are other channels for "X versus Y" -discussion01:08
mtrgleopard20: my system is very stable, it doesn't get old by time, smaller viruses and lesser chance of being infected.. it's neat, it feels young all the time. plus it gives me more flexibility to change stuff so i have a system that is 100% customized for myself01:09
soulg77knome, no prob I try there thanks.01:09
knomesoulg77, good luck :)01:09
leopard20ok mtrg, thank you, whee you find your freewares for linux?01:10
_ju5t1n@leopard20, I have a server running freevo recording the game upstairs, serving my kids alienarena, and my wife downstair music. It has not been rebooted in almost a year. Thats nice. :D01:10
_ju5t1n@ soulg77 if you are trying to use ndiskwrapper, you have to have the .inf file from a windows XP driver.01:11
mtrgleopard20: almost every linux distribution (operating system) has a repository full of aweswome free stuff01:11
mtrgleopard20: the software, such as apt-get or yum, downloads it for you + its depedencies01:12
mtrgleopard20: synaptic (ubuntu thingy) has the feature so you can search for apps01:12
soulg77<_ju5t1n> sorry, what do you mean?01:12
mtrgleopard20: however, just in case that is not enough, you can google and you may find even more apps01:12
leopard20what is synaptic??01:13
mtrgyeah, but synaptic package manger might been replaced with something else for the latest release01:13
knomeleopard20, it's a package manager, found in the applications menu01:13
knomeleopard20, there is also ubuntu software centre, which is a bit easier and maybe cleaner, but doesn't have absolutely all of the applications in the repository01:14
_ju5t1nyou have to find windows xp drivers for your Wifi or network card that include a file ending in .INF, it is often contained inside a cab you have to take apart but sometimes in a zip. What card is it? I probably have it already :D01:14
leopard20i installed fedora there is no synaptic01:14
knomeleopard20, this is not a fedora support channel.01:14
leopard20ic01:14
mtrgleopard20: /join #fedora01:15
leopard20so you confess it is a support channel01:15
knomethat's what the topic says.01:15
soulg77It's a broadcom truemobile 1300 wlan mini pci01:15
_ju5t1nno it is a chat community where we sometimes help each other :P01:15
_ju5t1ndell?01:15
knome_ju5t1n, no, #xubuntu actually IS a support channel, not a chat community01:16
soulg77yes01:16
mtrgleopard20: are you not satisfied with the support? try MS support and wait a few months to get their reply01:16
knomeleopard20, is there a xubuntu problem we can help you with?01:16
leopard20support channel must dont ask visitors to google, sorry01:16
_ju5t1nlol, been there, done those. give me a minute01:16
leopard20i am just jiking01:16
leopard20joking01:16
knomeleopard20, stop joking and ask a xubuntu support question if you have one01:17
knomeleopard20, #xubuntu-offtopic for a more relaxed chat, and other channels for other OS support01:17
leopard20no sir, thank you01:17
leopard20i am new to linux and collecting info, thats all01:18
_ju5t1nwait, are you on the system now? using ethernet01:18
leopard20thank you a lot01:18
knomeleopard20, ##linux for general linux chatter01:18
mtrgisn't ##linux for kernel specific stuff?01:18
well_laid_lawnnope01:19
knomemtrg, no. all the ##-channels are for more relaxed discussion01:19
mtrgthe double hash means more relaxed?01:19
knomemtrg, (or generally with larger subject)01:19
_ju5t1n@soulg77 are you on that computer now?01:19
leopard20they never accepted questions there01:19
knomemtrg, usually, it's not a rule though01:19
soulg77no i'm not01:19
mtrgi see01:20
leopard20ok01:20
knomeanyway, for all the offtopic'ish discussions, let's use #xubuntu-offtopic so those who need help can get it here. thanks01:20
leopard20on last question?01:20
VlynIs there a way to use different backgroundpictures for the workspaces?01:20
knomeleopard20, it's not a game, nor a tradeoff. #xubuntu-offtopic for non-support discussion, please01:21
_ju5t1nmy suggestion is get on it, plug it into a router or hotspot, enable everything in your software sources (don't forget to change it back in a bit!) then install "kernel backports wireless modules" for your kernel version.01:22
leopard20bye01:23
_ju5t1n@soul If i remember right, it is athoros based and so the regular driver will be faster then ndisk anyway01:23
_ju5t1nif you reboot and it does not come up, then ... well give me minute and I can cure that, too. :P01:24
soulg77@ _ju5t1n can I find that with the packet manager?01:24
_ju5t1nyes. In syanptic, in it is "kernel backports wireless", but your backports repository has to be on. (you may not want to LEAVE it on once you are running, but another topic)01:26
_ju5t1nand that is a broadcom chipset, so it should work. If not , --> http://www.infdump.com/download-inf-files_new.php/inffiles/B/bcmwl5.inf/-/download.html01:27
_ju5t1n{eric waves bye and smiles}01:28
soulg77@_ju5t1n in synatic I'm seeing "linux-backports-modules"01:30
soulg77@_ju5t1n and that link is it "bcmwl5.inf"?01:30
_ju5t1nyes. get the one that matches your kernel version. Yes, but this will run faster and more stable ... if it has it {blushes}01:31
_ju5t1nback to the modules ... if you do not know your kernel version, open a terminal for me and type: uname -a01:31
soulg77@_ju5t1n was just about to ask, thanks01:32
_ju5t1nI get ahead of customers when I do this for a living, too. LOL01:32
knome_ju5t1n, welcome to the club01:33
_ju5t1nIt starts with 2.6 :)01:33
soulg77thanks is it "generic" or "generic-pae"?01:35
_ju5t1nlol, no you are going to need the whole number. mine is 2.6.32-40 on this notebook cause you need the same backports number01:36
_ju5t1notherwise you end up installing another kernel, which while it can be fun ... it's not what you are trying to do here :P01:36
soulg77sorry, I'll be more specific "linux-backports-modules-cw-2.6.39-natty-generic" or "linux-backports-modules-cw-2.6.39-natty-generic-pae"?01:40
_ju5t1nahh, regular. unless your kernel said pae (I doubt it)01:41
_ju5t1nstock ubuntu? then regular for sure01:41
soulg77its stock01:42
_ju5t1nregular then.01:42
soulg77ok installing now let you know when finished01:43
_ju5t1ninstall reboot and it should be in network manager. once in a while you have to right click the applet and enable it afterwards ... I don't know why.01:43
_ju5t1n{network manager icon that shows your ethernet card or wireless or carrier pidgen or however you are getting to use at the moment :D }01:44
soulg77btw, should I still download that other file?01:44
_ju5t1nI doubt you will need it but you may want to _ju5t1n case ;)01:45
_ju5t1nokay I have like four more live chat customers, one way of another you will be on WiFi in a bit. Back to it for me01:46
_ju5t1nyw01:46
GridCube!keyring02:59
drcOne ring to rule them...02:59
GridCube:P02:59
GridCubeso lightdm is tied to gnome-keyring, so when you log in you also unlock the keyring, however if you add the autologin flag to the lightdm.conf the keyring is not unlocked and it ask you for your password to do so, im trying to figure out how to disable it whitout killing the whole system03:01
Shirakawasunaanyone else getting cpu spike/slow response when opening/closing tabs in chrome?03:06
GridCubenope, i use firefox so...03:07
GridCube:D changing the execution privileges for gnome-keyring-daemon did the trick :D03:19
GridCubelol i can't use empathy whitout gnome-keyring XD03:23
drcThe Ring giveth and the Ring taketh away.....03:24
bartronhi everyone...just installed xubuntu 11.10, including restricted extras.  for some reason I can't browse samba shares in thunar...does anyone have a fix?03:31
GridCubedoes it work on gigolo?03:32
bartronno03:33
bartron"location not mountable"03:33
GridCubetheres your problem then03:33
bartroncare to explain?03:34
GridCubeyou probably do not have samba installed03:34
bartroni do, i installed it03:34
* GridCube havent never used samba himself so he doesnt really know by experience03:34
GridCube:/03:34
GridCubemmm03:34
bartroni looked up on the ubuntu forums, and it seems as of beta 2, it was an unresolved bug...i was just wondering if anyone had heard of a fix03:35
GridCube:/ not that i know of03:36
bartrondamn03:36
GridCube:(03:36
GridCubeyou could ask on #xfce03:36
bartroni got it!  you know what i needed...gvfs-backends package03:37
bartroni had gvfs, but not that package03:37
Shirakawasunalol, I think I just had too many bookmarks in my bookmarks bar (I forget that bookmarks will default there sometimes)03:45
Shirakawasunanow chrome is fast, woot03:45
Jack-xubuntuI am finally installing chrome!03:46
GridCube:P this people installing software and stuff03:46
Jack-xubuntuI just got my WI-FI drivers to work with NDISWRAPPER.03:46
ShirakawasunaJack-xubuntu: woo03:46
Shirakawasunanice03:46
Jack-xubuntuDo you have to install FlashPLayer separately from Chrome03:48
GridCubetalking about installing softeare and stuff, i changed gmusicbrowser for exaile, because  gmusicbrowser has a really weird way of searching whitout afecting the current playlist, but whitout either showing you a search dump or something so if you search something and try to play it it will still play the rest of the stuff in the whole playlist instead of the stuff you just searched03:48
GridCubebut exaile isnt integrated to the sound applet on the panel03:49
GridCube:/03:49
Jack-xubuntu:/03:49
Jack-xubuntuno :C03:50
drcGridCube: And the multimedia keys on my laptop won't work with it...but I use it anyway.03:51
GridCubetru dat03:51
GridCubeXD03:51
GridCubeexaile FTW!03:51
drcGridCube: You can get the icon in the notification area03:51
GridCubeyes that i can03:51
GridCubebut is not integrated to the sound applet like gmusicbrowser is03:52
drcnope, I and don't really care for that system :)03:52
GridCubefurthermore gmusicbrowser has a really confusing tab systems03:53
drctru dat03:53
GridCubeno idea why they changed exaile for it03:53
drcdunno, I do know that the developer is really open to bugs/recommendations/criticisms though.03:54
GridCubeif only decible-audio-player had a good search interface it would be the most perfect media player for linux, but sadly it doesnt do good searchs03:55
GridCube:D yes i know that03:55
drcactually rhythmbox was perfect for me...then they dropped the streaming radio from this version :(03:55
GridCube:(03:56
GridCubeaudacious is also nice, but it doesnt have a music database03:56
Jack-xubuntuI assume these are all media Apps03:57
Shirakawasunagmusicbrowser can be made to work just like exaile, GridCube03:57
GridCubeShirakawasuna, it can be made to look like it yes03:58
GridCube>work just like, no03:58
Shirakawasunaah03:58
GridCubethe problem is not about how it looks03:58
ShirakawasunaI find myself switching layouts often03:58
GridCubethe problem is the searching engine03:58
Jack-xubuntuSince you are on the topic, do you have any media program suggestions for me?03:59
GridCubeif you search something it will only search on the current playlist, you can not search the database, so its kinda useless03:59
GridCubei use exaile03:59
Shirakawasunait'll depend on the purpose, Jack-xubuntu, but I always install vlc and mplayer03:59
drcJack-xubuntu: Depends on what you want...03:59
drcfull service or self service04:00
Shirakawasunabetween vlc and mplayer a given video will play right (yes I know they're both on top of ffmpeg)04:00
Jack-xubuntuWell I have 50GB of unsorted music04:00
Shirakawasunaclementine is pretty nice04:00
GridCubeJack-xubuntu, you could try exaile, gmusicbrowser, rythmbox, decibel-audio-player, audacious04:01
GridCubeXD and see wich one works for you04:01
Jack-xubuntuI think I will try Exaile04:01
drcJack-xubuntu: All those install and un-install nicely, try them 'till you find one you like04:02
Jack-xubuntuAnd if that doesnt work out then i will move down the list04:02
drcThat's what I did04:02
drcI settled for exaile04:02
Jack-xubuntuAre they all available from synaptic or ubuntu software center.04:02
drcyes and yes04:02
Shirakawasunacan you make exaile work w/ the sound-indicator?04:03
drcno04:03
Jack-xubuntuOk, i give them all a look and decide whats best for me thanks C:04:03
GridCube:D thats the best of ubuntu, installing and uninstalling things is easy04:03
drcJack-xubuntu: make sure you look at the configuration, because some of the capabilities need to be expressly turned on04:04
drcor off :)04:04
Jack-xubuntuOK04:04
Jack-xubuntuIll take that advoce04:04
Jack-xubuntu*advice04:04
Jack-xubuntuexaile is for music only :/04:05
Jack-xubuntuI have lots of videos too...04:05
drcoh you want one that does both audio and video?04:05
GridCubeoh...04:06
Jack-xubuntuYEs04:06
drcpersonally I found that the best audio doesn't do video they way I like and vice-versa04:06
Jack-xubuntuI would like that04:06
jordan4ibanezhi everyone04:06
GridCubehello04:06
Jack-xubuntuHi04:06
jordan4ibanezhow are you guys doin?04:06
Jack-xubuntuNice, you?04:06
jordan4ibanezpretty good04:07
Jack-xubuntuGood to know.04:07
drcJack-xubuntu: If I want one that would do both, I'd probably use vlc04:07
jordan4ibanezyep..so can anybody tell me..are there any upgrades in the kernel in kernel 3.0.0-12?04:07
Jack-xubuntuOk ill find and install it :)04:07
drcBut 50 gig of "unsorted" audio is going to be fun :)04:08
GridCubejordan4ibanez, what?04:09
jordan4ibanezis there any like..memory cache improvements? or like chunk upgrades in this kernel? lol04:10
ShirakawasunaI'm hating my notifications... because they're entirely unconfigurable, last forever, and are placed funny (notify-osd). Does anyone know how to get around this?04:21
ShirakawasunaMy last idea was to try just removing notify-osd, but guake depends on it (grr)04:21
drcShirakawasuna: settings Manager>Notifications04:22
akrathosHi all04:22
Shirakawasunadr_jkl: those settings are ignored by notify-odsd04:23
Shirakawasuna*notify-osd04:23
akrathossomeone there?04:24
Shirakawasunayes04:24
akrathos:D hi04:25
akrathosim new with xubuntu04:25
akrathosand i have a problem04:25
akrathoslol04:25
raevolakrathos: in support channels on irc, go ahead and just ask your question, don't ask to ask, and don't ask if anyone is here ;)04:26
raevoljust a protip04:26
Shirakawasunaakrathos: what's the problem?04:27
akrathosthanks, dont know where is the support channel..04:27
akrathosand the problem, is not a big thing, i guess, but i dont know how to fix it..04:28
drcakrathos: this is it...just ask your question04:28
raevolakrathos: this is a support channel, see the topic from when you joined04:28
akrathosthe thing is that i was changing the colors of the panels04:28
akrathosand suddenly the "alpha" option wasnt there anymore.04:28
raevoldid you change it to "background image"?04:29
akrathosno04:29
raevolit's still  "solid color"?04:29
akrathosya04:29
raevolstrange04:29
akrathosis there a way to reset the panels?04:30
akrathos(by the way, i know my english sucks :/ )04:31
akrathos...04:34
drcakrathos: Delete /home/YOUR-ID-HERE/.config/xfce4 will get rid of all the xfce4 configs, I'm not sure what controls only the panel04:34
akrathosk04:35
drcwait04:35
akrathosthank you04:35
akrathosso much04:35
drcwait04:35
akrathosk04:35
drcI <think> it's file:///home/drc/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml  replce drc with your id04:35
drcrename that file restart X/xfce and see, if it's not you can rename the file back and have lost only a minute or two04:36
akrathosgonna try04:37
akrathoscan't find the file04:39
akrathos:S04:39
Shirakawasunaah, much better04:40
Shirakawasunaold version of guake -> no notify-osd dependency -> xfce4's notify daemon taking over04:40
Shirakawasunaalso the old version of guake didn't die as much as the new one04:40
akrathosdrc, its tell me that that file donesn't exist04:42
VermicelliCould someone point me to how I can get firefox to respect the boundary of the xfce panel when fullscreened? I'd like the bottom of the window to stop at the top of the panel.04:45
drcakrathos: Did you replace drc with your login id?04:46
akrathosyeah :D04:47
akrathosof course04:47
drcakrathos: Don't know then...you can alway delete the entire xfce4 folder, but that will get rid of all your xfce configs04:49
akrathosk04:49
akrathosthank you so much drc04:49
akrathos:D04:49
drcnp04:49
TriumphOfDeathhello there, A little question, using xfce, do you know how can I make transparent the text boxes for desktop icons?05:01
XubuntuKrisxubuntu 11.10?05:01
TriumphOfDeathXubuntuKris: hello -> offcourse :D05:02
XubuntuKriswell, a lot of people use xfce without a full xubuntu install.lol05:03
XubuntuKrishad one in here earlier that did Ubuntu 11.10 with xfce desktop and xfce settings.05:03
XubuntuKrisLemme get this straight though, you want the box fully transparent with the text still showing?05:04
TriumphOfDeathoh, I see.. I can figure now..05:07
TriumphOfDeathAnother question, I have the same trouble -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/85408705:07
TriumphOfDeathWhat 's suppose to do with that?05:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 854087 in software-center (Ubuntu Oneiric) "software-center crashed with TypeError in _parse_menu_tag(): 'NoneType' object is not iterable" [High,Fix released]05:07
XubuntuKristhanks ubottu05:08
XubuntuKrisbut if there's a fix, we would like a link to it.lol05:08
XubuntuKris( I know I'm talking to a bot )05:09
TriumphOfDeathXubuntuKris: ?05:09
XubuntuKrisyou posted about the bug and ubottu responded...05:09
XubuntuKrisubottu is a bot...hence the uBOTtu05:10
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XubuntuKrishttp://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/howto-remove-the-borders-of-your-desktop-icon-text/05:11
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zuswhere is the link for installing dvd playback and MP3's  for xubuntu please05:25
XubuntuKrisIs nice05:26
zus and flash would be nice as well.05:26
XubuntuKris!mp305:27
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:27
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ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:27
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ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash05:27
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erkan^goedemorgen ubuntu'ers06:15
TriumphOfDeathHellO people; there is someway to get back Guarddog? Gd is a software to config IPTables as firewallbuilder, fw is great but so complex.. and another fws softwares hasn't many options..  Guarddog was worked with kde3 so now is obsolete from 10.10.. Im trying to setup but many dependences has broken.. and no way.. Well Do you know any way, trick or idea to run GD in U11.10 ?06:21
sandra_Hello my fellow Xubuntu inmates :-)06:30
sandra_I trust everyone of you doing well and have plans to out dancing tonight06:30
sandra_but not before I ask my questions lol06:31
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macsshello07:52
macssi can't see network in nautilus on 11.10 , is it currently broken ?07:53
reonI installed alacarte last night but it pull in a whole lot of crap, how can I remove alacarte and all the crap? If I uninstall alacarte it does not remove the extra stuff08:34
Sysiaptitude might do that08:35
lightaswitch back to xfce4, hey guys I don't found how to add system monitor in panel again, how can I do that ? (not in menu list)08:41
well_laid_lawn!info xfce4-goodies08:41
ubottuxfce4-goodies (source: xfce4-goodies): enhancements for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.8.1 (oneiric), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB08:41
reonSysi, I just tried the --with recommends options and that only lists a few packages08:42
well_laid_lawnI dunno if that helps08:42
lightaok thx well_laid_lawn i'll look this pacage08:42
lightayep sound like i'll do the job well_laid_lawn with : xfce4-cpufreq-plugin08:44
well_laid_lawncheers08:44
boogymanhi08:58
reonJack-xubuntu, you there?09:09
incorrecthey reon09:14
reonhowzit incorrect09:26
incorrectoh are you south african?09:26
reonyebo yes :)09:26
incorrectaren't you supposed to say howzit my china?09:27
reonlol, sounds a bit ancient09:27
incorrecti dunno, this is what i was told was said there09:28
reondunno, have not heard that in ages, was more common in the older days I think09:29
reonmaybe in some other parts?09:29
incorrecti have a feeling they told me so i would look an idiot09:29
reonnah, doubt it, I have heard the phrase before, epsecially when I was younger, suspect it is probabaly still used in other parts of the country.09:30
reonBy the coast with the surf culture we just say howzit, maybe it's due to lazyness that we leave the rest of the phrase out :D09:31
incorrectfair enough09:31
reonbusy watching the rugby and the kiwis are giving it to oz09:32
incorrectwe are sucking big time, so i am told09:33
reonwe?09:33
incorrectoh sorry, english09:33
reonengland is out of the tournament. France beat Wales yesterday and NZ looks like they will beat Ozz with 8min to go09:35
knomehey reon, incorrect: #xubuntu-offtopic :)09:35
reonsorry09:35
reoncan't manage two channels and watch the tv :)09:36
knomeheh09:36
incorrectoops, sorry09:38
reonok, I still need to figure out how to completely remove alacarte and everything it pulled in09:39
knomereon, sudo apt-get purge alacarte && sudo apt-get autoremove09:40
incorrectapt-get --purge autoremove alacarte ?09:41
knomehmmh, that too09:41
knomeseems like my apt-fu is getting outdated09:42
incorrecti am just lazy, if i can find a way to do it in less effort i will09:42
johnnyzeroEvery time I press the apostrophe key or accent key I have to press it twice for it to type. Is that normal with XUbuntu?09:49
knomejohnnyzero, i suppose that has something to do with the keyboard layout too, but yes, it's normal, since if you press it once, and then for example a, you get á09:51
johnnyzeroooh09:52
johnnyzeroIt set up as US International09:52
johnnyzeroáh I get it09:52
johnnyzeroHow can I set it to go back to US rather than US International09:52
reonknome, that does not even remove half of the stuff?09:53
knomereon, it should, at least if other apps you have installed do not have the same deps09:54
johnnyzeroOh wait09:55
johnnyzeroNever mind09:55
reonI installed no other apps after alacarte so the there should be no dpes beyond what alacarte needs09:55
johnnyzeroI saw something that said sudo kcontrol09:55
johnnyzeroLets see if that works09:55
johnnyzeronope09:55
knomejohnnyzero, what is that supposed to do?09:55
johnnyzeroWell I have to change my keyboard layout09:56
johnnyzeroFor some reason during install it keeps selecting US International. I kinda want it to be English/US09:56
reonwhy don't you specify the kbd layout?09:57
reonduring install09:57
knomejohnnyzero, check settings manager -> keyboard, tab layout09:57
johnnyzeroI guess to be honest I am not exactly used to the install. Kinda gave me a text install for x86_6409:57
knomejohnnyzero, kcontrol sounds like something for kde09:58
johnnyzeroYeah thats what I figured actually09:58
xubuntu577hello10:01
knomexubuntu577, hello10:03
johnnyThanx guys10:13
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knomenp10:16
johnnyzeroIts kind of hard to get used to. I'm used to Gnome 2.10:25
johnnyzeroLike the whole not being able to move my applets on the tool bar side to side10:26
cyocumHi, I just upgraded to xubuntu 11.10 and now I have mousepad and leafpad, onboard and onboard settings, and print dialogue and print manager...how can remove the duplicates?10:26
khaardcyocum, i've never upgraded an *ubuntu system harmless... all u got2do is to save ur work @ ~ and reinstall it10:28
beardygnomecyocum: onboard settings is the settings manager for onboard, i don't think it is a duplicate10:28
beardygnomekhaard: thatis interesting, i've alwayd upgraded and never had any issues10:28
cyocumok10:29
beardygnomecyocum: you can uninstall programs you don't want using the ubuntu software centre10:29
cyocumcan I just uninstall mousepad10:29
cyocumyeah, I use synaptic or apt-get usually10:29
beardygnomeyes10:29
beardygnomeor you can keep it and uninstall leafpad - that's the beauty of freedom :-)10:30
cyocumindeed :)10:30
cyocumI tend to stick with whatever the community chooses as default as I code all day already10:30
beardygnomei don't believe that print manager and print dialog are dupes either10:30
cyocumcool10:30
khaardbeardygnome, u are a LUCKY guy10:32
DanielSenatHOw to get skype working correctly in xubuntu? No microfone sound, no cam10:33
reonthis alacarte thing is gonna drive me nuts. on my login screen I know have a gnome3 panel, somehow my grub splash has changed to the debian one....10:33
* johnnyzero won't use Unity or Gnome 3 hence why I had to switch to this10:33
johnnyzeroThere was LUbuntu but I tried it and it didn't work the way I wanted it to10:34
johnnyzeroThis is similar to Gnome 2 however, I liked the set up better of Gnome 2. Again I can't seem to do much with the applets on the docking panels. They won't move.10:34
lightawhat doesn't move on your panel ?10:35
johnnyzeroNothing does. If I try to say move the menu button to the left or right it won't move.10:35
cyocumDanielSenat, I have to go into my sound preferences and set options->mic jack mode10:36
lightawork for me, weird ><10:36
johnnyzeroEven if I right click and it move it doesn't10:36
johnnyzeroFor some reason10:36
lightado you mean it automove back in old position ?10:36
DanielSenatcyocum, ok, i will try10:37
johnnyzeroNo it just doesn't move at all lighta10:37
johnnyzeroIts almost as if its locked into place10:37
lightawich item did you try, I can't believe it can move ! must have done something wrong10:37
DanielSenatcyocum, I don't have that option in my alsa mixer...10:39
lightajohnnyzero, did you try adding a new item and move it ?10:39
cyocumDanielSenat, huh, it is under the options tab in the sound settings10:39
cyocumat least in mine10:39
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johnnyzerolighta, I did10:40
lightaweird =/10:40
johnnyzerolighta, I actually wanted to structure the desktop similar to a gnome 2 desktop10:40
johnnyzeroand create two panels10:41
johnnyzeroWhich I was able to do10:41
johnnyzeroHowever10:41
johnnyzeroI can't move the applets the way I would like them to be10:41
johnnyzeroI was using Ubuntu 10.10 as a blueprint10:41
lightathat a theme ?10:41
johnnyzeroTrying to make XFCE feel more like Gnome 210:41
beardygnomejohnnyzero: some applets are now in the indicator area, so can't be moved10:42
johnnyzerolighta, well thats another thing I tried10:42
johnnyzeroThere is a Gnome Legacy Theme at XFCE look10:42
johnnyzeroThough it requires you to throw Metacity in as a WM10:43
johnnyzeroand I don't want to take the risk of Metacity turning my desktop into Gnome 310:43
lightaok10:44
johnnyzeroI suppose I could wait until another XFCE upgrade comes along10:45
johnnyzeroMaybe they will add in more features10:46
knomethere is not going to be one in the near future10:46
johnnyzeroSo you could slide around the applets just like you could in Gnome 210:46
johnnyzeroOr I will get used to the way it is as it is.10:46
johnnyzeroWhich could happen10:46
Olbihello :)10:47
knomeyou don't usually add/move panel applets everyday anyway, do you?10:47
Olbiwhere I can report problems with styles in Xubuntu on some apps?10:47
knomeOlbi, which style?10:47
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johnnyzeroknome, I never did before. Actually on my Gnome 2 Ubuntu distros I always left everything as default.10:47
Olbibluebirds, which are yours, knome :]10:48
johnnyzeroWhich is why when I reinstalled XUbuntu I left everything as default10:48
knomeOlbi, umphfff10:48
johnnyzeroThis way I could potentially get used to how the set up is10:48
OlbiI dont know, who is reponsibble for it, but Ubuntu Software Center isnt this tyle :(10:49
knomeOlbi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-artwork/10:49
Olbiand some plugins i firefox too :P10:49
knomeOlbi, (since there is no bluebird product in LP)10:49
knomebluebird hasn't been maintained for oneiric10:49
Olbi:(10:49
knomemeaning it can very well have bugs :)10:49
Olbithis is my favourite :P10:49
knomesorry, we had to use our time in greybird and it working with gtk3 at least somewhat nicely10:50
knome+ other things too10:50
OlbiI use bluebirds for style and albatross for tolbars' windows :)10:51
knomemmh10:51
knomei'm afraid albatross can have bugs too :)10:51
Olbi:P10:51
Olbifdsiohfsdhfghsgfsdgf ....10:51
Olbiso which styles are support for oneric?:P10:52
Olbigreybird,10:52
knomegreybird, and greybird10:52
knomeoh, and greybird10:52
Olbi:D10:52
knomethat's all we have now10:52
Olbihow I can help with other styles?10:53
knomeit actually makes a valid schema to try to support all of the themes in 12.04 LTS10:53
knomeOlbi, file bugs10:53
Olbiok10:53
johnnyzeroI suppose Linus Torvalds likes XFCE10:53
johnnyzeroSo I mean meh I suppose over time I could get used to it10:53
knomeOlbi, you can file all bugs in the mentioned URL, and albatross tracks bugs separately in LP too10:55
knomeOlbi, i probably should create projects for blue and greybird too10:55
Olbiok10:55
Olbifirst I do report on xubuntu-artwork in LP10:55
knomeOlbi, that's fine, we will receive the bugmail for that now10:56
Sysijohnnyzero: linus likes old gnome and possibly old kde, xfce is his last resort on modern linux desktops10:56
knomeOlbi, we can handle the moving (if needed) to correct projects ourself :)10:56
Olbi:)10:57
johnnyzeroSysi, well I can't say I blame him. I can recall having tons of issues on Gnome 3. Also when I was using Unity I remember I had to minimize AMSN and the app completely disappeared. Then when I tried to run a new AMSN it said it was already running. Though I couldn't find it anywhere. I had to log out and back in again.10:59
Sysijohnnyzero: of course he may actually like xfce; as my experience unity is messy, gnome3 is nice if it fits your workflow11:00
SysiI never liked old gnome, kde got lot more clear after 4.2 and even better at 4.511:02
SysiI still prefer xfce11:02
johnnyzerognome 3 was very buggy for me. It would freeze even when I went anywhere near the bottom of the screen. Or the apps would start dancing around and it would lag a lot. It was not a great experience either.11:03
reonhow do I restore the default xubuntu grub config&splash image?11:04
johnnyzeroOh yeah is there any way I could do an auto login?11:04
johnnyzeroWithout dealing with the session screen?11:04
johnnyzeroThe text install wouldn't give me that option11:05
johnnyzeroand it seems that the x86_64 version of XUbuntu is only the text install11:05
johnnyzeroOr thats all I could find11:05
knomejohnnyzero, mmh, no, that's not correct11:05
knomejohnnyzero, the desktop iso of 64 has a GUI install too11:06
knome(and livecd)11:06
johnnyzeroooh11:06
johnnyzeroHmm weird cause it only seemed to give me a text install11:06
knomemaybe you had the alternative iso, or some problems11:06
johnnyzeroOoh11:06
johnnyzeroYeah I did have the alternative11:06
johnnyzeroI downloaded the wrong one doh11:07
johnnyzeroAh well11:07
knomeyup, the alternative ISO is always text install, even with i38611:07
johnnyzeroWell anyways is there a way to autologin?11:11
reonwhere are the grub images saved?11:11
johnnyzeroOoh11:12
johnnyzeroSession and Startup11:12
johnnyzeroI see11:12
johnnyzeroThis really takes getting used to11:12
johnnyzerowait a minute11:13
johnnyzeroI see the Session and Startup11:13
johnnyzeroBut there is no option for an autologin11:13
SysiI think you can't get autologin from GUI settings, somewhere you can enable passwd-free login but no autologin11:14
Sysisessions and startup is xfce settings, login isn't handled by xfce11:14
reonjohnnyzero, edit /etc/lightdm.conf and set default-user and default-user-timeout in [default-display]11:15
johnnyzeroahh ok thanx11:15
reonhere's an example for ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-with-lightdm11:15
johnnyzeroYou sure thats where the file is?11:16
johnnyzeroIts blank11:16
johnnyzerothere is a lightdm file11:17
johnnyzeroBut no .conf11:17
johnnyzerohmm actually its a directory11:18
johnnyzeroahh theres the .conf11:18
johnnyzeroI see11:18
reon:)11:18
beardygnomeis it just me, or does lightdm not provide a way to shutdown or restart from the login screen?11:20
johnnyzerook let me try this out11:20
johnnyzeroI'll restart11:20
johnnyzerothanx :D worked11:24
OlbiI can't find Autostarted Applications in Xfce Menu, where it is?11:30
Sysisessions and startup11:30
Sysior session managment, you can reset with rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions11:30
Olbiweird, I dont have it :P11:32
Sysipreferences → settings manager → sessions and startup11:33
Olbi... I'm idiot :P11:34
Olbihow can I change visible font size under icon?12:16
knomeOlbi, in desktop?12:17
Olbiyes12:17
knomeOlbi, right-click -> desktop settings -> tab icons -> [X] use custom font size:12:17
Olbiok, but some names are too long and isnt visible or wrapped12:19
knomeOlbi, nothing you can do about that12:19
Olbishy :(12:19
Olbiin xml settings I cant change anything?12:20
knomebetter ask #xfce about that12:20
Olbiok12:20
VlynHey12:29
erkan^hello, i cannot found "main menu".12:30
esptt1hey! where could i find any info about configuring power options for my laptop? they're kinda messed up.. :)12:34
esptt1i tried google, but nothing really comes up..12:35
erkan^esptt1, ? #xfce , perhaps will they help12:42
esptt1thanks!12:43
erkan^(-:12:54
pkhI've just got a new laptop and I'm about to install the 32bit xubuntu -- what I can't decide is whether to go with the 11.10 or 11.04 -- from a friend, I know that this laptop is greatly affected by the higher power usage in the 11.10 kernel. basically wondering if anyone has any idea how long those kinds of problems usually take to get shaken out?13:09
reonanyone here got a standard xubuntu 11.10 install, I need your the files in your /etc/lightdm forlder please13:29
incorrectreon, why don't you just get the deb and extract it?13:32
reonincorrect, I'm having issues with lightdm (can't even reinstall now, even xubuntu-default-settings has issues with it) and would like to compare the config files, as I installes xubuntu from a normal ubuntu base install13:34
thomas8472My audio isn't working properly. I can't change the volume. if I mute it I can't unmute it without restarting the computer. I've just updated to the newest version of Ubuntu, though I forgot that I'm using Xubuntu. Is that a problem?13:38
reonthomas8472, a long shot but open a terminal, run alsamixer, unmute and up the volume on ALL the channels13:43
thomas8472thx, but not working.13:47
hellotherefresh 11.10 install. I can't find the login screen options / auto login options. where did they vanish to?13:49
reonDoes the default xubuntu install unity-greeter? Can someone please check their installed packages?13:50
knomereon, Installed: (none)13:51
beardygnomereon: i have it installed13:51
knome^ clean install13:51
beardygnomei upgraded from an install of 11.0413:51
beardygnomethe 11.04 install was a clean install13:52
reonok, when I reinstall xubuntu-desktop it pulls in lightdm and unity greeter and then specifies unity-greeter in the lightdm.conf file.13:52
thomas8472managed to unmute it with alsamixer, but it still doesn't work with the button.13:53
reonCan you guys please check you lightdm.conf files to see if unity-greeter or xubuntu is specified for user-session= please?13:53
knomexubuntu13:54
reonbeardygnome, did you upgrade from ubuntu or xubuntu?13:54
beardygnomexubuntu - this box has never had ubuntu on it13:54
knomereon, you can't "upgrade from ubuntu to xubuntu"13:55
reonknome, clean install of xubuntu or a base install + xubuntu-desktop?13:55
reonknome, ok thanks13:55
knomereon, clean install of xubuntu13:55
thomas8472is xubuntu to ubuntu  also impossible?13:56
reonknome, beardygnome, can you guys please upload you /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf files to pastebin?13:56
beardygnomereon: user-session = xubuntu13:56
drchellothere: I don't think LDM allows allows autologin at this time.  You can edit the co.nf file to allow it, though13:56
beardygnomereon: mine is 3 lines13:56
reonbeardygnome, mine specifies unity-greeter13:57
beardygnomeline1: [SeatDeafaults]13:57
beardygnomeline 2 greeter-session=unity-greeter13:57
beardygnomeline 3 user-session=xubuntu13:57
drcreon: http://pastebin.com/ZKxT0bkV13:57
hellothere(x)ubuntu is back to editing config files? :(13:58
hellotherewell, thanks anyway13:58
drcbeardygnome: did you install from a beta or later daily?  I think charlie-tca told me it pulled in unity-greeter early on13:59
knomereon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/709709/13:59
drcAnd unity-greeter makes the LDM login to be on the left side of the screen instead of the center.14:00
beardygnomedrc: i installed the final release of 11.04 when i got this box, then upgraded to 11.10 when it was released on thurs14:00
beardygnomeno betas, dailies etc14:01
reonhere's mine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/709713/14:01
reongreeter-session=unity-greeter14:01
drcreon: and your login is on the left side of the screen?14:02
beardygnomedrc: my login is on the left14:02
reondrc, lightdm does not work for me , i'm using gdm at the moment until I can fix lightdm14:02
drcAccording to what charlie-tca told me, that is a clear sign of unity-greeter.14:02
reonif I change greeter-session=unity-greeter to user-session=xubuntu do I have to reconfigure anything?14:03
knomereon, greeter-session != user-session14:03
reonknome, sorry I mean greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter14:04
knomeno, i don't think you need to reconfigure14:06
drcreon: you can try, if it doesn't work you can boot into recovery mode and chage it back14:06
knomethen again i'm not sure14:06
reondoes the default xubuntu login screen look like this http://ompldr.org/vYXUyMA/lightdm.png14:09
reonThat's what I get when I do a test run with lightdm --test-mode -c lightdm.conf14:10
drcreon: No idea, I use autologin :)14:10
reondrc, fat load of help you are :p :)14:10
drcwell, if you want, I <can> set up LDM and re-boot...back in a sec14:11
beardygnomereon: that looks like the old gdm login screem14:11
beardygnome*screen14:11
drcexcept I can't find where to change the login options :(14:13
reonif I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm I get:14:20
reondpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_NAME missing14:20
beardygnomereon: i switched my netbook from unity-greeter to lightdm-gtk-greeter and it looks just like your picture14:20
reondpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE missing14:20
reonbeardygnome, does it differ from the unity-greeter one then?14:21
beardygnomereon: massively different14:23
beardygnomethe unity one is black with white pattern and "ubuntu 11.10" in the bottom left corner14:24
mtrganyone knows why my xubuntu has some apps that are not gtk themed, such as "evince"? my upgrade crashed in the middle of the process and i had to continue it afterwards14:25
beardygnomeit also has no way to shutdown / restart etc14:25
reonI'm busy searching the net to see what the default should look like14:26
TheSheepmtrg: they are gtk3 apps14:26
mtrgTheSheep: so my question is invalid?14:26
TheSheepmtrg: you need a gtk3 style to have them themed14:26
TheSheepmtrg: currently there are only 3 gtk3 styles available14:26
mtrgwas evince gtk2 prior to 11.10?14:27
GridCubemtrg: you need the official gtk3 xubuntu skin, it did not make into the final release image but you can download it from shimmer14:27
TheSheepmtrg: xubuntu's default, Ambiance and Radiance14:27
TheSheepmtrg: yes, before that there was no gtk314:27
TheSheepmtrg: it's the new gnome3/unity thing14:27
mtrgah, that explains it all perfecty14:27
GridCube!shimmer14:27
mtrgi'm not following gtk3.. but was it released along with gnome3?14:27
GridCubebefore that i think14:28
knomehm?14:28
beardygnomecan anyone recommend a replacement for lock-keys-applet?14:29
mtrgthat's sad. i need my dark gtk2 themes. white sucks.14:29
TheSheepmtrg: smae here14:30
TheSheepsame14:30
GridCubemtrg: get the latest greybird from shimmer14:31
mtrgis gtk3 backward compatible with gtk2? so gtk2 would still get themed?14:31
GridCubethey are both14:31
GridCubei mean there are both themes14:31
Sysiyou can use dark gtk2 with not-dark gtk3..14:31
Sysibut they're using separate theming, check your theme folder, gtk-* folders14:32
mtrgGridCube: that's not really dark (greybird from shimmer)14:32
GridCubeno but is not white either14:32
mtrgthe content of the windows is mostly white and that kills my eyes so quickly14:32
mtrgmy theme is partly custom made, all dialogs are dark grey14:33
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mtrgis gtk3 faster?14:33
GridCubeoh :) well greybird is currently the only good gtk3 theme, hopefully the great xubuntu people will make a new albatross theme soon XD14:34
mtrgalatros wasn't dark enough either14:35
TheSheepmtrg: it's slower, uglier, less usable and emits co214:35
mtrglol14:35
mtrgjustify?14:36
mtrgguess they added stuff to support the fancyness of gnome3?14:36
TheSheepthere are things you just can't justify14:36
mtrgyour wisdom exceeded my expectations14:37
ahs3-knome,  its official. I'm a xubuntuer. Thanks for your help14:38
knomeahs3-, np :)14:38
mtrgthat last two lines of TheSheep are teh most awesome lines i've seen in irc for this month14:38
TheSheepmtrg: I just hate it with the passion of a thousand suns14:38
mtrgdamn you are awesome! "passion of a thousan suns" love that14:39
lordjjInstalling Xubuntu 11.10 in the place of my current Ubuntu 10.04. Anything I should know?14:39
mtrglordjj: using the upgrade system?14:41
mtrgi mean the apt-get upgrade thingy14:41
lordjjNo. A fresh install.14:41
mtrgah, you are ok mostly14:41
mtrglordjj: most likely you won't find many themes due to the gtk3 apps14:42
mtrgcurrently i have some of apps running my awesome dark theme, while others are just naked (the gtk3 apps are naked,the resent to wear but gtk3)14:43
lordjjIs it worth installing compiz?14:44
lordjjI only have 2 gb of RAM on my system14:44
mtrgabselutely not. it's just good to troll windows/mac users at 1st14:44
mtrgit's a feature you disable soon after you troll windows/mac users14:44
lordjjHeh, yeah. But I do like the desktop zoom feature14:45
mtrgyeah that's cool14:45
lordjjThat's really the only thing I use from compiz14:45
lordjjAny alternative to that?14:45
mtrgi don't like their wm14:45
mtrgno idea,14:45
lordjjTo be clear, if I use compiz instead of the default wm. Even with no extra effects enabled, will it be using up more resources?14:46
GridCubeyes14:46
GridCubebut it wont matter to you14:47
mtrgi suggest you really try it 1st. it's free. installs quick. no big deal just try it14:47
GridCubewhit 2gb of ram and a swap partition you wont feel it14:47
GridCubeI used to use it back in the day, whit 512mb ram14:48
lordjjAlso, I'd like to know how much harddisk space is recommended for the filesystem, and swap space.14:48
jfehi all.14:49
reonanybody know of a good gui util to customise grub with?14:50
jfei want to run xubuntu under parallels on my macbook pro that has an intel core i5 cpu. i'd like to use the 64-bit version but i'm not sure if i should choose the "PC (Intel x86)" or "64-bit PC (AMD64)" iso.14:50
GridCubereon, what do you mean by costumizing?14:51
GridCubelatest grub is very inteligent, if you want to have a background image just drop one to the grub folder and update it14:51
GridCubeif you want to use the 64bit, you oneed the 64bit one O_o14:52
incorrecthow funny, my mute button mutes pulse audio, but doesn't unmute it14:52
GridCubeah, that does happen14:52
TheSheepincorrect: same here14:52
reonchanging the splash images etc14:52
incorrectoh well, could be worse14:53
martijn1985Does anyone have an idea how to assign a shortcut key to switching to a different workspace? I can see how to move an window, but not just the focus...14:53
TheSheepreon: that's upstart, not grub14:53
reonGridCube, changing splash etc. Is https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/grub-customizer any good?14:53
TheSheepmartijn1985: settings --> window manager settings --> keyboard14:53
GridCubereon, you don't need anithing like that, as said you just drop files into the grub folder and sudo update-grub and done14:54
martijn1985TheSheep , obviously...thanks14:54
beardygnomeGridCube: where is the background that lightdm uses?14:54
beardygnomei'd like to use that for grub as well14:55
reonGridCube, my brug splash & menu fonts are borked. It uses the debian background image. I would like to restore to the original xubuntu ones but no clue where to start14:55
GridCube/usr/share/xfce4/backdrops?14:55
beardygnomethanks14:56
beardygnomeGridCube: which grub folder do it put it in, /boot/grub?14:57
GridCubereon, take a wallpaper, any one, place it on /boot/grub    go to a terminal and write >sudo update-grub14:57
GridCubeit will say "you have an image on the folder! using it as background14:57
GridCubeor something like that14:58
GridCubeyou can also use /usr/share/images/grub/14:58
reonGridCube, but I don't know what the default Xubuntu image looks like or where it's located14:58
GridCube/usr/share/xfce4/backdrops14:58
GridCubethere is where all images are located, by default xubuntu doesnt use any image for grub14:59
GridCubejust black14:59
GridCubeyou can choose what ever you want14:59
GridCubethere is also this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119527515:02
jfeany idea what iso i should use for intel core i5?15:03
GridCubethe standard one?15:03
jfeGridCube: which is...?15:03
beardygnomejfe: we don't have different iso for different intel processors15:04
beardygnomethe options are 32bit or 64 bit15:04
GridCubeoh, its a 64bit cpu, so anyone you want15:04
jfebeardygnome: so "AMD64" also applies to intel processors?15:04
beardygnomejfe: yes15:04
GridCubejfe, yes thats just the generic name15:04
GridCubebecause they where first15:05
jfeah, okay. sorry for the confusion.15:05
GridCubeor something like that15:05
GridCube:D15:05
beardygnomejfe:  no worries :-)15:05
GridCubedont worry jfe15:05
* GridCube hiveminds beardygnome 15:05
* beardygnome attempts to resist :-)15:06
lrojashi all, i'm trying to run a game in my xubuntu install, but i get the error  error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory15:29
lrojasanybody has any idea how to install openGL?15:29
lrojas$ uname -a15:32
lrojasLinux Tycho 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:32
jcfplrojas: libGL.so.1 comes as part of (3D) video card drivers (nvidia/ati's fglrx/etc)15:33
lrojasmy card is an intell FX3000 or something15:34
lrojasdoes that mean, i can't run any openGL apps?15:35
jcfpdoes that thing do 3d?15:35
jcfpI don't know anything about intel graphics15:37
lrojasit does 3d when in windows15:37
lrojasis the intel HD 300015:37
Sysilrojas: what xubuntu version?15:38
lrojas11.1015:39
Sysioh well, kernel should be new anough15:39
lrojasis there anything i can do to troubleshoot this?15:39
lrojas$ uname -a15:39
lrojasLinux Tycho 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux15:39
reonThe Intel HD 3000 should do OpenGL just fine, supports opengl 3.115:40
lrojasthe problem is that openGL is not installed with xubuntu 11.1015:40
lrojasif i try to do glxdemo it's not in the system15:41
lrojasas well as libGL.so either15:41
reonopen synaptic and type in opengl and then sort by installed packages, it must be installed.15:43
reonwhat game are you trying to install15:43
reonwhat game are you trying to install?15:44
sandra_G'day my fellow Xubuntu inmates :-)15:44
reonhi15:44
sandra_I trust you all are doing well :-)15:44
lordjjHow do I specify a separate partition for Home during installation?15:44
reonselect manual partitioning15:44
knomelordjj, you need to select the "something else" -option15:45
lordjjknome, yes I did. But then what.15:45
reonlrojas ?15:45
lordjjI didn't see anything related to Home15:45
knomelordjj, create two partitions, mount them as ext3, and set the mountpoints to / and /home15:46
lordjjknome, can you point me to a tutorial?15:46
GridCubelordjj, using standard install or alternate?15:46
reonlordjj http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/small/ubuntu1104installation-small_004.png15:46
knome(you can choose ext4 or any other fs too btw...)15:46
lordjjGridCube, what do you mean15:46
knomelordjj, see the pircture reon pasted15:47
lrojasreon, actually i'm trying to run tales of M'jal ( http://te4.org/tome )15:47
sandra_Can somone be kind enough to tell me how I can get Xubuntu  sound mixer to default sound to my USB headset? I know how to do it under Ubuntu 11.10  but unfortunately it's not that easy or elegant under Xubuntu .15:47
GridCubesandra_, i do not understand15:47
knomesandra_, have you looked at pavucontrol?15:48
reonsandra_ let me know when you find out, I still have to cross that bridge when I eventually get to it.15:48
GridCubelordjj, the alternate installer has one TUI partition editor and the standard one has a GUI partition editor15:48
GridCubei guess you are using the standard installer whit all the fancy windows and stuff15:48
lordjjGridCube, GUI.15:48
GridCubeso what you need to do is;15:49
lrojasreon, ??15:49
GridCubechoose manual partitions, rezise one to say, 25gb, format it to ext4 and say to it to mount on /15:49
sandra_knome, I did install pavucontrol  in order to be able to use my usb headset but it seems more like a work around due to Xubuntu inability to default sound to my USB headset . Under Ubuntu 11.10 I just select my USB headset and it works.15:49
GridCubethen choose the rest of the disk you did not use for / and say it to format to ext4 and to mount on /home15:50
reonlrojas are you trying to install from the repos or a different source15:50
GridCubebefore that you could add an extra partition for swap15:50
GridCubeand you will probably have to too15:51
GridCubeXD to too15:51
lrojasreon, that's not in the repos15:51
lrojasis only available form the web page i linked15:51
reonsandra_ just tick & switch the green bottons next to the output devices or does it not stay persistant?15:51
Jack-xubuntuIs there any way to create a shared folder in xubuntu  ?15:52
reonlrojas then it's probably built against a older version of ubuntu with specific dependencies that are no longer met in 11.1015:52
lordjjGridCube, knome reon : ok that made things clear thanks. But I have a 140GB partition with data on it that I want to use. I want to take 30 GB for the filesystem from it. How do I do that without losing the data on it?15:52
sandra_reon, green buttons ?  could you be kind enough to use  pastebin so I can see what you are talking about please ?15:53
lordjjAlso, what is the Logical/Extended option for?15:53
sandra_reon, Because I've done all I know to do in order to get sound to default to my USB headset w/out using pavucontrol  program.15:54
GridCubelordjj, ok15:54
reonlordjj, use gparted to resize the partition (BUT normal disclaimer of backing up your data applies!)15:54
GridCubedo this15:54
Jack-xubuntuI want a shared folder on my network15:54
reonsandra_, hang five15:55
Jack-xubuntu'Cause all 5 of my pc have one.15:55
reonlrojas have you tried tome in the repos?15:55
sandra_reon, going into holding pattern lol15:55
GridCubeuse gparted to rezise the disk, then choose it for the instalation, and say the other to mount on a folder, be aware that if said partition is not on ext4 or some other format that allow the standard unix permissions things will broke, so if its on ntfs you can not use it as a /home, you can tho, mount it on /home/user/disk15:55
reonsandra_,  lol - http://ompldr.org/vYXU0dQ/pavu.png15:56
GridCubelordjj, also >Normal Disclaimer of backing up your data applies!15:56
reonsandra_ selecting and deselecting those two green tick buttons allows you to change between primary & fallback devices ;) Dunno if it's persistent on a reboot though.15:57
lordjjOk thank you all.15:57
Jack-xubuntuIs there any way to create a shared folder on my network through xubuntu  ?15:58
reonJack-xubuntu, did you get that link I sent you earlier?15:58
Jack-xubuntuYes.15:58
reonJack-xubuntu, about post xubuntu install tips15:58
reonok, cool, just checking15:58
Jack-xubuntuhttps://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/xubuntu yes15:58
Jack-xubuntuIs it on there?15:59
sandra_reon, yes that is the program I am currently using in order to get my USB headset to work . I was hoping there was a solution w/in the sound mixer that Xfce uses.15:59
Jack-xubuntuNo its no on that website... I think.16:01
reonsandra_ I also have both like you but I just have not gotten round to looking for a simple solution yet. Do you come here often as I could try to remember to let you know if I find something, dunno of another method to get hold of you.16:02
sandra_reon, Yes I do come to this chat channel often :-)16:04
reonsandra_ another method is to click on the volume icon, sound-settings and change the device.16:04
Jack-xubuntuSimple enogh, i figured that one out when i was using skype on Ubuntu16:06
Jack-xubuntuthen i switched to xubuntu.16:06
Jack-xubuntuSame old Same old.16:06
reonJack-xubuntu, no it's not on that site16:06
Jack-xubuntuI figred.16:07
Jack-xubuntu*figured16:07
reonsandra_ keep asking me if I found something when you see me online, my memory is not what it used to be anymore. I'm sure one could write a small switcher script with a toggle button on the panel but that's like black magic to me.16:07
sandra_reon, lol sure I will thank you for your help16:08
reonJack-xubuntu, do you want to share a local folder on your xubuntu with another pc on the network(linux or windows)?16:09
Jack-xubuntuYes, Like i did on Ubuntu.16:09
reonJack-xubuntu, are you sharing with other linux computer or windows ones?16:10
Jack-xubuntuAll of the above, like I said.16:12
Jack-xubuntuIf it is a windows share, i can access it from my linux laptop.16:13
sandra_reon, Would you happen to know if compiz can be used in Xubuntu ?16:14
Jack-xubuntuAnd from my Desktops runnin XP16:14
drc!compiz16:14
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz16:14
reonsandra_ yes it can but why would you want to?16:14
GridCubeJack-xubuntu, you could use ssh from windows :P16:15
sandra_reon, I'm only asking because I do use it compiz under ubuntu 11.0416:15
reonsomeone here mentioned earlier they are using the compiz wm instead of the xfce one so it can be done.16:15
knomecompiz with xfce isn't really supported (not that you couldn't do that though)16:15
GridCubesandra_, http://alturl.com/qq8o4 question 916:16
sandra_GridCube, Thank you kindly :-)16:18
Jack-xubuntuGridCube: What's That16:19
Jack-xubuntuI am not Familiar with ssh16:19
GridCube!ssh16:19
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)16:19
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Jack-xubuntuI just want to create a shared folder on my network that is compatible with windows and linux just like in ubuntu. It was a lot simpler in ubuntu>16:21
GridCubeJack-xubuntu, :( yeah16:21
Jack-xubuntuBeing 12 Sucks16:22
Jack-xubuntuI dont really know much about linux... its all new to me.16:23
ElderDryasJack-xubuntu: Just wait until 'buntu enters puberty :(16:23
Jack-xubuntulol16:23
Jack-xubuntuIf you heard my voice on skype, i could pass for a 18 year old :/16:24
reonI see there used to be a thunar-shares-plugin which did the same thing as nautilus-shares, wonder why it's gone16:24
Jack-xubuntuNow that makes sence.16:25
reonJack-xubuntu, have a look at system-config-samba package16:26
Jack-xubuntuThere is a package that has a thunar shares plugin, http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/thunar-plugins/thunar-shares-plugin16:28
GridCube!fusesmb16:29
ubottufusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network.  Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb16:29
GridCube:D thats what you need Jack-xubuntu16:29
TriumphOfDeathHI, there is someway to put a Rhythmbox icon into notification area, Im using xfce4.816:30
reonJack-xubuntu, i have xfce goodies installed and that package is not part of it. I also found this PPA https://launchpad.net/thunar-shares/16:30
reonJack-xubuntu, ignore that PPA, it looks ancient16:31
GridCubeTriumphOfDeath, very probably rythmbox has a "add an icon to the notification area" option on its options16:31
Jack-xubuntuOK, ...16:31
neighborleeIs xubuntu ( read a review which stated this but that was a yearish ago ) still mono free and is that meant to be forwarded onto future releases ? ;)16:31
nimohow do I control screensaver ??16:31
dahaichello, can someone point me to the newer package of the evolution-rss? I just upgraded to oneiric, and it has little bit of problem. rss has dependency <<3.2 but evolution itself is 3.2 version :/16:32
GridCubeif i can convince them to install pinta by default then no XD16:32
TriumphOfDeathGridCube: Hi, indeed, but for some reason all of then (plugins) are disable, i think is xfce config imcopability16:32
Jack-xubuntuI installed fusesmb, I am going to try it now :)16:32
Jack-xubuntu... how do you use fusesmb...16:33
GridCubeJack-xubuntu, the link should tell you16:34
GridCubeor google XD16:34
Jack-xubuntuSorry for being completely stupid...16:34
GridCubenah16:34
GridCubeits you are not :)16:34
GridCubeTriumphOfDeath, that i dont know16:35
GridCubeim using exaile insted of gmusicbrowser and its notification icon works fine16:35
TriumphOfDeath:(16:35
TriumphOfDeathit's ok16:35
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GridCubethats fun16:37
GridCubei do not have a package rythmbox on oneiric16:37
GridCube!info rytmbox oneiric16:37
ubottuPackage rytmbox does not exist in oneiric16:37
GridCube!info rythmbox oneiric16:37
ubottuPackage rythmbox does not exist in oneiric16:37
knome!info rhythmbox oneiric16:38
ubotturhythmbox (source: rhythmbox): music player and organizer for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.90.1~20110908-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 510 kB, installed size 2716 kB16:38
knomethere i fixed it for you16:38
GridCubeoh16:38
reonJack-xubuntu, hey did you look at Jack-xubuntu, have a look at system-config-samba package16:38
GridCubeXD there where an extra h16:38
GridCubeknome, do you happen to know if its posible to change gmusicbrowser for exaile on the sound applet?16:39
TriumphOfDeathGridCube: OMG I understands now, it happends to old gnome users, we think that Xfce  is the same16:39
GridCubeXD16:39
knomeGridCube, umh, i suppose it works if exaile supports the soundmenu or whatever it's called16:39
sandra_I have a question it's Xfce related I was wondering if anyone here is familiar with a distro named LinuxMint and if so I was wondering could Xfce be skinned to look & feel like the linuxmint menu gnome menu ?16:40
knomesandra_, yes i suppose so, if you have the time and are willing to do the effort16:41
knomesandra_, it's just that xubuntu is meant to look different16:41
GridCubesandra_, the linuxMint menu is for gnome, so very probably wont work on xfce16:42
knomei don't know the menu, mmh. GridCube, is it something completely different?16:42
GridCubehttp://distrocheck.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/menutip.png16:43
knomeah, right16:43
knomeno, i don't think that works with xfce, unless you can get the gnome menu applet into the xfce panel16:43
sandra_GridCube, I was hoping the Linuxmint menu could be replicated in Xfce if possible of course.16:43
GridCubehttp://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/36716:44
GridCubeyou will probably need the mint sources tho16:44
TriumphOfDeathGridcube: another question do u know some kind of desktop panel, I see it in another distro ->a pic  http://goo.gl/CFqDd but I dont know the name for an installation.. can u help me16:44
GridCubethats twm TriumphOfDeath16:44
knomeconky can do that too16:45
sandra_GridCube, Thank you so much for this info it's my hope that it could be done using native Xfce w/out any gnome assistance.16:46
GridCube:/ no i dont think thats possible sandra_16:46
knomei don't know why anybody wants that his desktop tells his file system is ext4. and what file system/partition/device is that referring to anyway??16:46
nimohow do you get pictures folder in screensaver ??????+16:46
knomesandra_, no way to do that with core xfce.16:46
Sysinimo: from screensaver settings16:46
reonGridCube, looks like tint2 to me16:46
nimoSysi, its not there :(16:47
TriumphOfDeathGridcube: twm?  twm is a window manager for the X Window System, isn't the info panel16:47
Sysiit should be one of the option, check advanced-tab too16:47
knomeTriumphOfDeath, look at conky, for example. from the filename, i could also think it's "statler"16:47
reonTriumphOfDeath, it's Tint2 panel they using there16:47
GridCubenimo, >(start)>configuration>administration>configuration>screensaver>GLSlideshow16:47
GridCubereon, oh, i never heard of that16:48
TriumphOfDeathknome: reon: Gridcube: That's it... I appreciate ur help, thks a lot! :D16:48
GridCube:)16:48
reonGridCube, very lightweight, I run it on my Arch laptop16:48
GridCube:P i like xfce XD16:48
GridCubeso i very rarely change to stuff like that16:49
nimoGlSlideshow is not same as pictures folder16:49
reonTriumphOfDeath, http://code.google.com/p/tint2/16:49
nimoGridCube,   GlSlideshow is not same as pictures folder16:49
TriumphOfDeathreon: Perfect! :D16:50
GridCubenimo, it is, just change the folder it uses16:51
GridCubeon the [advanced] tab16:51
neighborleeGridCube, why would linux need pinta, when it has gimp..good luck with that lol16:51
GridCubeD: im pro to delete gimp from all ubuntu distros by default16:52
TheSheepneighborlee: gimp is a little on the complicated side of user experience16:52
reonneigborlee, pinta is a really cool app16:52
GridCube:P but i know im the only one so yeah XD16:52
TheSheepisn't pinta that .NET app?16:53
GridCubenope is a mono app16:53
TheSheepsame thing16:53
GridCubeits based on paint.NET16:53
GridCubeyes16:53
GridCubeXD16:53
TriumphOfDeathknome: awesome!! thks16:53
TheSheepas long as it lets you put captions on your cats, the users will be happy16:54
neighborleeTheSheep, no more than PS ;)16:54
knomeTriumphOfDeath, np16:54
neighborleeTheSheep, thats like saying blender is too complicated, but look at the amazing things it does16:55
TheSheepneighborlee: actually it has a little bit more non-obvious details in the user interface, like line drawing16:55
nimoGridCube, i cant find where to change folder.. in settings16:55
neighborleeTheSheep, besides..we all know mono is dangerous and non free as clearly stated by richard stallman of FSF16:55
nimoGridCube,  I mark Glslideshow and then press settings16:55
neighborleeTheSheep, I shall say no more than that16:55
GridCubenimo, you have two main tabs, one where you choose the screensaver and other one where you can change the advanced options16:55
TheSheepneighborlee: the problem with mono and xubuntu is the resources16:56
nimoGridCube,   ok I found it.. thx16:57
GridCube:D awesome16:57
Jack-xubuntuWe are all Awesome !16:57
GridCube:D16:58
GridCubeso nimo does it work like you wanted now?16:58
Jack-xubuntuThis is a little off topic, no very off topic but: does anyone here besides me play mineccraft?16:59
Jack-xubuntuMinecraft*17:00
neighborleeTheSheep, it should also be about patents17:00
TheSheepJack-xubuntu: there is #xubuntu-offtopic and it's awesome!17:00
Jack-xubuntuok17:00
neighborleeTheSheep, as clealry noted by richard stallman of the FSF17:00
neighborleeTheSheep, Im surprised few have respect for him and his opinions17:00
knomeneighborlee, stop talking about stallman. thanks.17:01
nimoGridCube, yea great. I wanted this particular pic folder to choose from17:01
babarosaHi there! There is a lot going on today ;-)17:01
GridCube:D17:01
neighborleeknome, sorry you dont like stallman..my bad17:01
TheSheepneighborlee: you can talk about him in -offtopic ;)17:02
knomeneighborlee, it's not about if i like stallman or not, but you are being offtopic. if you are told to stop talking about something, please stop.17:02
neighborleeTheSheep, that will have zero impact,,but thx anyway ;)17:03
neighborleeknome, I wasn't talking about it..I said my bad for it..I figured that was self evident it was my way of stopping17:04
neighborleeknome, alas..done.17:04
neighborleeliterally17:04
nimoCompiz Config Settings Manager does not work in xubuntu ????17:05
babarosaCan anybody confirm that in oneiric additionally installed individual mouse pointers are not supported completely?17:05
GridCube?17:05
GridCubebabarosa, , http://alturl.com/qq8o4 question 817:06
babarosaGridCube - I will throw a look at it. Thank you for the hint!17:08
GridCube:)17:08
reonGridCube, I checked out my grub folder earlier and there are no images in it yet it loads the debian earth one at startup?17:12
nimoi want to configure volume up and down.. bind keys... how can I do that ????????17:18
knomenimo, tip: you only need one question mark to indicate you are asking a question17:18
nimoknome,  nerd17:20
knomenimo, thank you sir17:20
nimoknome,  instead correcting people,  use your energi to help them instead17:22
knomenimo, see my blog article at http://open.knome.fi/2009/07/05/panels-disappearing-and-other-frequently-asked-questions/. the idea to add kb bindings should still be the same17:23
nimoknome, i cant bind mouse wheel up17:28
nimoin the keyboatd section17:28
knomenimo, do you mean you want to bind them when you are hovering the applet, or anywhere?17:28
nimoanywhere17:29
nimobut hovering the applet does not work either17:29
knomei'm sorry, i don't have the answer.17:31
reonnimo, http://alvonsius.wordpress.com/2007/01/08/xfce-volume-controlling-with-keyboard/17:31
reonnimo, I just tested that and it works17:34
VlynIs there a way to stop Mousepad freezing?17:43
OMFGitsJ3HAi17:43
VlynIt freezes for a while when I want to close it…17:43
knomeVlyn, use leafpad?17:44
TriumphOfDeathHi there, a little doubt: do u know if the bandwidth can be distributed or controlled by the action that u need.. I mean navigate and download at sametime.. not only navigate or not only download by default17:44
TheSheepVlyn: that's strange, can you run it from terminal with strace and see what it is doing then?17:44
VlynUh, let me try that17:44
TheSheepVlyn: 'strace -f mousepad' would be the command17:45
reonVlyn, what issue did you have yesterday this time? I found a solution I think but can't remember what the problem was17:45
Vlynreon: Lol…17:45
Vlynreon: Finding out the name of an app?17:46
reonVlyn, it's sad when your mind works like that17:46
VlynTheSheep: Strace shows me millions of lines17:46
VlynAnd sometimes mousepad closes normal17:46
reonVlyn, yes!17:46
TheSheepVlyn: sure, it shows all the operations it does17:46
TheSheepVlyn: I was hoping it stops at some particular operation for longer17:47
Vlynlet me try again17:47
TheSheepVlyn: then you could tell that this is what freezes it17:47
VlynTheSheep: Damn… now it closes instantly -.-17:47
TheSheepmay be some race condition17:48
VlynOkay, it’s not that important. And strace looks cool :-)17:49
TheSheepit's very good for debugging some kinds of problems17:49
ElderDryasTheSheep: I noticed the same freeze in Mousepad (back when it was the default).  IIRC, it was the <first> use of Mousepad, sort of a Thunar-Slow-Opening in reverse.17:50
VlynWhen I try it with strace it never freezes -.-17:50
TheSheepVlyn: solution! ;)17:51
VlynAnd I don’t know why it did that in the first place. My PC isn’t slow or something17:51
xubuntu373hi17:52
xubuntu373:)17:52
VlynBtw. what is a good editor for html/php/css in Linux? :-)17:52
VlynFor Win i used notepad++17:52
Unit193Vlyn: It's all in what you like best, scite is almost close to N++ :/17:55
VlynUnit193: Just looking at Geany, but it’s missing colors xD17:57
TheSheepvim :)17:58
VlynHeard of that… too… complicated for me17:58
VlynAnd I’m using a new keyboard layout ;-)17:58
TheSheepthere is also cream, which is supposed to be simpler17:58
OlbiGeany, Gedit with plugins17:58
Olbikrita17:59
TheSheepscribes is pretty sweet17:59
TheSheepvery simple, some good ideas in it17:59
GridCubegeany18:00
reonIs it possible to toggle sound devices with a simple alsamixer command?18:01
Jack-xubuntuHay18:03
VlynOkay, I just downloaded some style files for Geany… I know the program is in /usr/bin but where is the rest of it? O.o18:03
TheSheepVlyn: dpkg -L geany18:04
ElderDryasVlyn: /home/WHATEVER/.config/geany18:04
VlynElderDryas: That’s it, ty!18:04
VlynTheSheep: That’s just the files in the /usr/ directory?18:05
TheSheepVlyn: that lists all the installed files that belong to it18:06
VlynBut good to know :-) I should make myself a little documentation on the commands18:06
VlynI see :-)18:06
VlynCrap, only half of the new colors worked xD18:11
VlynDamn, why u no work?! Some stuff is confusing :-(18:19
VlynOh wait, they just made some errors in the .php config x(18:20
buzz_debian -> ubuntu -> mint -> ubuntu (dev) -> xubuntu (you are here)18:28
buzz_currently enjoying the simple/functional environment xfce gives me18:29
buzz_thanks18:29
matthew99Where has the option to display technical items in the Software Center gone? Synaptic is a bit of a pain. :s18:33
xubuntu084hi!18:43
jmcantrelli'm curious what i should expect trying out xubuntu coming from ubuntu18:44
jmcantrellhow's the experience different?18:44
buzz_its a more familiar desktop environment18:46
buzz_no global menu, no overlay scrollbars, close button on the right. on the launcher, left mouse launches, no need for middle button to load another copy. it has a screensaver. you can change fonts without using a "tweak" tool18:47
jmcantrellhehe18:47
jmcantrellsounds good18:47
ElderDryasjmcantrell: Plus you get to bash Unity :)18:49
jmcantrelldoes it use compiz?18:49
buzz_for me personally, unity and gnome3 shell neither aid me in using my computer. its slows me down. im sure there are people out there that prefer that, but not for me18:49
buzz_i bash unity on ubuntu channels too heh18:49
buzz_you can run compiz if you like i think but xfwm4 has some compositing effects itself (basic stuff i think).. i could be wrong here, im not xfce expert18:49
ElderDryasyou can and it does18:50
jmcantrelli had been using gnome classic happily, but i like that xfce's focus is simplicity18:50
jmcantrellwell, the only reason i ask about compiz is b/c of the grid plugin18:50
jmcantrellanything like that in xfce?18:51
ElderDryasjmcantrell: You <can> install ans use compiz, but, from what I've heard/read it's more trouble than it's worth18:51
buzz_maybe im just weird, but i prefer to look and see what tabs i have open, rather than "blips" on a unity toolbar. if i left click on terminal, it's because i want another copy, not to focus the existing copy18:51
jmcantrellis there a way to arrange windows on the screen in a grid?18:52
buzz_one thing i really dont understand, is how they think fragmenting the gnome3 experience with two incompatible desktops (indicators vs whatever gnome3 has), is going to help anything. any gnome dev is going to pull their hair out to support two different systems18:53
jmcantrelldoes anyone know?18:57
jmcantrellhas anyone used PyWO? it looks like what i want19:00
jmcantrellwhere is configuration information for xfce stored?19:08
jmcantrelllike the current wallpaper19:08
QueopsHello Xubuntuers! How do you guys do to use Dropbox?19:12
GridCubeinstall it19:12
QueopsBut doesn't it need nautilus?19:12
GridCubenope19:18
QueopsThanks ;)19:26
kamilnadeemHi19:31
kamilnadeemhow does one enable auto login in xubuntu 11.1019:32
kamilnadeem?19:32
kamilnadeemany one here?19:33
TheSheepyou edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf19:33
kamilnadeemok trying19:34
TheSheepand add "autologin-user=yourusername"19:34
kamilnadeemwhen I am saving it says cannot open file to write?19:36
kamilnadeemTheSheep19:37
TheSheepkamilnadeem: you need to do it as root19:39
TheSheepkamilnadeem: with sudo19:39
TheSheep!sudo19:39
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo19:39
TheSheep!autologin19:39
kamilnadeemdid it via sudo thunar(I did know it but couldn't recall) Thanks19:42
kamilnadeemBye19:42
xubuntu674Hello19:57
sandra_Hello my fellow Xubuntu inmates :-)19:57
sandra_I hope your all doing well today.19:58
xubuntu674Does any1 got xubuntu 11.10 ?19:58
sandra_I have a question about the Xfce desktop interface  the icons on my desktop the name is highlighted and I want to get rid of that highlight around desktop icon name can someone please tell me how ?19:59
TheSheepsandra_: sure20:00
sandra_xubuntu674, Yes I'm currently using 11.1020:00
sandra_TheSheep, Thanks :-)20:00
TheSheepsandra_: create in your home directory a file called .gtkrc-2.020:00
sandra_TheSheep, listening intently20:01
TheSheepsandra_: then put this text in it and save: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/493524/20:01
TheSheepseemawn: then open settings->appearance and change your theme to something and back20:02
TheSheepseemawn: sorry20:02
TheSheepsandra_: ^20:02
xubuntu674If I try to mount an audio-cd, I always get an error like: Audio-CD couldnt be mounted, Place could not be mounted somthing like that. I also cant open the cd directory20:02
TheSheepxubuntu674: audio cds don't have a filesystem on them, you can't mount them20:02
TheSheepxubuntu674: just open them in an audio player20:03
xubuntu674on ubuntu  10.10 I can mount it and show the audiotracks20:03
xubuntu674plus I can mount and unmount the cd20:03
TheSheepxubuntu674: it doesn't really mount it, it's just nautilus acting as an audio player and displaying the tracs, but they are not real files20:04
TheSheeptracks20:04
TheSheepthunar doesn't do that20:04
xubuntu674okay thank you20:05
sandra_xubuntu674, I can show you a way to mount iso files from cd if you like20:06
Shirakawasunahmm20:06
ShirakawasunaI thought I saw thunar doing that in 11.0420:06
xubuntu674i would use furious iso mount20:06
xubuntu674@ sandra20:06
xubuntu674:-)20:06
Shirakawasunaxubuntu674: works for me here20:07
ShirakawasunaI just put in a cd, open thunar, and click on 'audio cd'20:07
sandra_xubuntu674, Please open your Thunar file manager and let me know once it's open please.20:07
xubuntu674doesnt works for me20:07
Shirakawasunait shows tracks labeled 'Track 1.wav' etc20:07
xubuntu674one moment please, I am installing it atm, because the notebook I installed it today is not here20:08
sandra_xubuntu674, you can't open your file manager at all ?20:08
xubuntu674no I can open thunar but i canot show the directory of an audio cd20:08
Shirakawasunaare you sure the CD is any good, xubuntu674?20:08
xubuntu674yes, because I used asunder to rip mp3s from it20:09
sandra_xubuntu674, please open thunar and tell me once you have opened it please20:09
xubuntu674Okay I will tell you once it is open20:09
sandra_xubuntu674, okay20:10
xubuntu674but for the time beeing, is there any posibility to config the touchpad aside from using synaptics ?20:10
Shirakawasunaxubuntu674: well, you need to have synaptics installed, but to configure it I use gpointingdevice-settings and synclient20:11
Shirakawasunasynclient is cli20:11
sandra_xubuntu674, Can we please stay on task and then move on to your touchpad issue ?20:11
xubuntu674*g* okay20:11
Shirakawasunagpointingdevice-settings is ... a little broken for me20:11
sandra_xubuntu674, is thunar open ?20:11
egsomeAnybody got problems upgrading to XUbuntu 11.10 ?20:13
jmcantrellany way to get dropbox integration in thunar?20:13
sandra_xubuntu674, Do you have Thunar open yet ?20:13
egsomejmcantrell: Yeah, Check: http://softwarebakery.com/maato/thunar-dropbox.html20:14
sandkinghi20:15
sandkingwhich would be faster on a netbook - xubuntu or lubuntu?20:15
sandra_xubuntu674, Once you have thunar open click on "Edit" then click on "Configure custom actions" at that point please click on "add"20:16
sandra_lol20:16
egsomesandra_: Which netbook ?, Specify more ..20:16
egsomesandking: Which netbook ?, Specify more ..20:16
sandkingegsome, asus eee 1001px20:16
sandra_egsome, I think you have the wrong sandra lol20:17
egsomesandra_: Yeah :), Sorry for that20:17
egsomesandking: HD ? Ram ?20:17
sandkingand if i already have ubuntu installed is there any difference between installing xde over it or installing xubuntu?20:17
sandking1 gb ram, 160 gb20:18
sandkingi installed 11.10 and i really need to make it faster :/20:18
egsomesandking: I think even Gnome would work good on that, but I prefer XFCE20:18
sandkingegsome, i had 11.04 with gnome and it was acceptable20:19
sandkingunity kills it20:19
egsomesandking: XUbuntu got XFCE not XDE20:19
jmcantrellanyone use nautilus in xfce?20:19
sandkingxfce i meant, sorry20:19
egsomesandking: Unity kills everyone ..20:19
egsomesandking: Try XFCE ( XUbuntu ), It would much smoother and faster.20:19
marcus_hello I am back20:19
sandkingthe design idea isn't so bad, but it's slowe20:19
sandkingr20:19
marcus_<-- xubuntu67420:19
marcus_Now I got Thunar open20:20
sandkingegsome, but should i install fresh or is it ok to install just xfce over 11.10?20:20
egsomesandking: I really hate to have all that graphical effects in the front of my eyes while coding <- Unity20:20
egsomesandking: To get something stable and forget about unwanted bugs due to conflicts, get a fresh install.20:20
sandkingegsome, i'm no coder, just casual, but i really appreciate good design (ex-mac user)20:21
sandkingcrunchband appeals to me in some way but i'm afraid it'd kill me in the long run20:22
marcus_Hello is there anyone who knows how to solve this audio-cd mount issue?20:23
jmcantrelldoes xfce use gconf for configuration or something else?20:29
egsomesandking: Yeah, Mac users most times prefer KDE as far as i know20:30
sandkingegsome, KDE? man, KDE is the ugliest thing I saw :] and it reminds me so much of windows that I can't stand it20:31
egsomesandking: Sure :), I really didn't think even to give it a try.20:32
egsomesandking: Screenshots & Videos tell enough to keep away ..20:32
sandkingI only used KDE back when I tried Mandrake but Gnome is my favourite now20:33
sandkingbut it feels like i would like to have something that looks as good in terms of design but is lighter and doesn't come with all these apps i really don't want20:34
egsomesandking: Most thing I don't like is much animation or graphic work, I like being simple.20:34
sandkingegsome, I don't mind these things as far as i can turn it off20:35
ShirakawasunaI like KDE overall, but I wish the devs would concentrate on improving what is currently there rather than adding stuff that no one uses (e.g. their 'places' or whatever)20:39
ShirakawasunaI used KDE exclusively for like 5 years, through the 3 -> 4 transition. I gave up on them once I noticed how awesome XFCE 4.8 is :)20:40
marcus_can anyone help me how to use synaptics touchpad controll in xubuntu ?20:47
lorin`is it possible to remove this gtk resize grip in the corner of every window? so far the common answer on forums to edit .gtkrc-2.0 does not work20:53
jmcantrellis there a wallpaper changer for xfce?20:53
seemawni have been highlighted. What can I do for whom?21:16
jmcantrellis there a way to drag images from chromium to the desktop?21:21
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TemhAAhmeThi22:54
TemhAAhmeTi instaled xubuntu22:55
TemhAAhmeTand when i connect via vnc22:55
TemhAAhmeTi can see only a terminal window and there isnt any taskbar or any other tools like gnome22:55
TemhAAhmeThow can i use xubuntu full22:56
TemhAAhmeT?22:56
well_laid_lawnTemhAAhmeT: check in your home dir for a .vnc folder23:02
TemhAAhmeTi am using vps and i have ssh only and when i am setting up vnc i used command "nano .vnc/xstartup" and add "exec gnome-session"23:04
TemhAAhmeTso probably i have .vnc but probably gnome-session should be replaced with xubuntu session23:05
TemhAAhmeTbut i dont know gnome-session command for xubuntu23:05
well_laid_lawnso you'll be getting twm afaik23:05
well_laid_lawnwhich just starts a xterm so you can start apps23:06
TemhAAhmeTtwm afaik=? does gnome-session should be replaced xubuntu-session or kde-session? or similar23:07
well_laid_lawntwm is the default window manager in X and afaik = as far as I know23:07
well_laid_lawnyou have to use something you have obviously so try xfce-session23:08
TemhAAhmeTi am going to try xfce-session23:08
well_laid_lawnluck23:08
TemhAAhmeTi changed gnome-session to xfce-session in .vnc/xstartup but it doesnt effect23:13
TemhAAhmeTthis is my vnc screen http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/69895684.jpg/23:13
well_laid_lawnthat looks like twm23:17
well_laid_lawnin the terminal try   ps -C twm23:19
TemhAAhmeTPID TTY          TIME CMD23:20
TemhAAhmeTit says those23:20
well_laid_lawnthere's just the one line?23:21
TemhAAhmeTyep23:21
well_laid_lawnk23:21
random0815hello23:23
random0815anybody in?23:23
random0815thanks for no help :)23:24
fergal32hi23:24
well_laid_lawnTemhAAhmeT: can you paste the xstartup file?23:24
random0815hello, here is nobody talking with us23:24
well_laid_lawn!paste23:24
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:24
fergal32just installed xubuntu. everything works so far but is there no network browsing with thunar?23:25
TemhAAhmeT#!/bin/sh23:25
TemhAAhmeT# Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop:23:25
TemhAAhmeT# unset SESSION_MANAGER23:25
TemhAAhmeT# exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc23:25
TemhAAhmeT[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup23:25
TemhAAhmeT[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources23:25
TemhAAhmeTxsetroot -solid grey23:25
TemhAAhmeTvncconfig -iconic &23:25
TemhAAhmeTx-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" &23:25
TemhAAhmeTx-window-manager & exec xfce-session &23:25
well_laid_lawn!paste | TemhAAhmeT23:25
random0815there should be23:25
ubottuTemhAAhmeT: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:25
random0815for me there is an entry in the sidebox23:26
random0815network23:26
fergal32random0815: nope. not for me23:26
well_laid_lawnTemhAAhmeT: you know you are starting a terminal in that xstartup?23:26
TemhAAhmeTi only added exec xfce-session23:27
well_laid_lawnyep but if you don't want the terminal comment that line23:27
well_laid_lawnand the x-window-manager line23:27
TemhAAhmeTand when i using gnome it works fine23:28
well_laid_lawnand have at the end   exec startxfce423:28
TemhAAhmeTok i am going to try23:28
TemhAAhmeTthanks very much :D it works23:31
TemhAAhmeTstartxfce4 solves everything :D23:31
TemhAAhmeTthanks for helping again23:31
well_laid_lawnnp :)23:32
TemhAAhmeT:D23:32
pinky__If I use the update manager to update to 11.10, will it install ubuntu or xubuntu?23:34
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TemhAAhmeTgood question, also i am wondering does this 11.10 update effects xubuntu?23:36
pinky__... also I'm using wubi, not sure if that matters23:36
Guest70407Probably I spent more than a day getting my system back after an attempted update to 11.1023:37
fergal32does anybody know why i don´t have network in thunar?23:37
ballDoes Thunar usually know about networks?23:37
pinky__hmm, wonder if i should back up and install from fresh... I got a vpn and bunch of other stuff running on this puppy though23:37
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pinkydwah, that's better23:38
ballhey preecher23:38
fergal32hm, according to the xfce website there should be a network icon on the left side23:39
preecherhi ball23:39
fergal32but there isn´t. fusesmb is installed23:39
pinkydweh, TemhAAhmeT I'll try it and report back, I'm bored anyway23:41
TemhAAhmeThaha i started 3 min ago23:42
TemhAAhmeT:D23:43
pinkydwlol good luck23:43
pinkydwIf i see you get kicked I'll assume it didn't go well23:43
pinkydwbtw if the guys who make this distro care to know, bought the laptop I'm using now second hand from a dude that had vista on it, ran like a pregnant cow.  Put xubuntu on it and it runs like a bat out of hell23:45
TemhAAhmeTit asked interfaces on which the DHCPv6 client send requests?23:45
TemhAAhmeThow i can learn my network interface :D?23:46
pinkydwis that IPv6?23:46
pinkydwI actually have that turned off on most of my stuff, but not sure what you're doing23:46
fergal32anybody?23:47
pinkydw... did you map your network drive yet?23:48
fergal32pinkydw: not yet.23:49
pinkydw... hmmm, I do see it on mine, left hand side23:49
pinkydwbut I"ve already got samba set up23:49
fergal32yes, this is where is should be.23:49
pinkydwdoes it show up under "Go"?23:50
fergal32pinkydw: no23:52
fergal32checked that already23:52
fergal32maybe it´s caused by the installation of my realtek 8168 driver which i did manually23:52
pinkydwnot sure dude, sorry23:53
fergal32hm23:53
pinkydwcan you nav to the locations via ip address?23:53
fergal32pinkydw: if this is a shortcut where does it referr to?23:53
pinkydwum, not sure how to say, Windows Network shows up when I open it23:54
well_laid_lawnin thunar just start typing smb and look near the bottom right corner23:54
well_laid_lawnthere's a small text input popup23:55
w30xubuntu uses xfce for a window manager?23:56
well_laid_lawnit uses xfwm423:56
well_laid_lawnwhich is part of the xfce4 desktop environment23:56
fergal32well_laid_lawn: nothing happens when i type smb://example23:56
well_laid_lawnis samba setup?23:57
well_laid_lawnI know nothing about samba23:57
fergal32hm under ubuntu i don´t need samba for that if i want to access smb shares23:57
pinkydwthe link is there on mine, and I've got samba set up, but can't say it was there before then or not23:57
w30well_laid_lawn, my next question is will compiz run xfwm4 then?23:58
well_laid_lawnw30: they are both window managers they can't run at the same time23:58
well_laid_lawnxfce has it's own compositor23:59

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